Govern America | December 6, 2025 | Pax Universalis - Govern America

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new world.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment to season. The glid escape has
been shaken. The pieces are in flux. Soon they will
settle again. Before they do, let us reorder this world
around us, a.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
New world order, a world where the.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of
its founders.

Speaker 6 (00:27):
Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape is
so that the problem of the rensidentity will be the
emergence of a new international.

Speaker 7 (00:39):
Order the first decade of the twenty first century. But
out of what is will be feared the greatest restructuring
of the global economy, the greatest restructuring of the global economy,
greatest restructuring of the global economy. A new world order
was created.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
Documenting the crisis of our rebel.

Speaker 9 (00:58):
The very word.

Speaker 10 (00:59):
Secrecy repugnant in a free and open society. And we
are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies,
the secret oaths and a secret.

Speaker 11 (01:12):
Proceedings waging war on the new world order.

Speaker 12 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 13 (01:17):
We must guard again the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether
it sought or unsought by.

Speaker 7 (01:23):
The military industrial conflict.

Speaker 8 (01:27):
This is Governor America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 14 (01:51):
From Femer Regions five to ten. This is Governor America.
I'm garn Weeks. Vickey Davis is here as well. It
is the sixth of December twenty twenty five. Nice to
have you with us once again, ladies and gentlemen on
this post Thanksgiving broadcast. And I hope everybody had a
great Thanksgiving. Vicky are you there, Yes, I am. Hopefully
you had a good Thanksgiving as well.

Speaker 15 (02:12):
Yes, I did, thank you very much.

Speaker 14 (02:14):
Yeah, we are happy to be here, although we're trying
to get back into the swing of things here as
there's no shortage of stuff going on. One of the
things that I was looking at this morning was this
United Nations posting on their website, their Public Administration website
of the United Nations empowering Digital Transformation and Small Island

(02:36):
Developing States Digitization in public Sector in Solomon Islands. They're
focusing specifically on the Solomon Islands, but actually they are
advocates for spreading the digital transformation using their terminology to
all of the so called developing countries, and this is

(02:59):
a major component all throughout United Nations documents and certainly
all throughout Agenda twenty one, Agenda twenty thirty. These are
the goals is to bring so called development in, including
digital development. But why would they want to do that.
I think one of the big reasons why is because

(03:20):
nobody can be left alone, you know.

Speaker 15 (03:23):
Well, that's what I've been working on in the past
week is the realization that the New World Order is
actually converting the world to a commercial world, you know,
under the World Trade Organization. And the implications of that

(03:51):
are the was the elimination of borders for commerce. Well,
everything exist, this and commerce, you know. And when they
established the World Trade Organization, the people of the world,
the regular people of the world, like you and me,

(04:12):
we were converted to be just economic units. They eliminated
the concept of citizenship because they were eliminating the concept
of nation states under the Westphalian system.

Speaker 14 (04:30):
Yeah, exactly so, they say on the United Nations website.
Over the past decade, digital transformation has become a central
pillar of public sector reformed globally, with increasing recognition of
its potential to enhance service delivery, transparency, and citizen engagement.

Speaker 16 (04:49):
Four.

Speaker 15 (04:49):
There you go.

Speaker 14 (04:50):
Citizen engagement. What's that? Citizen delivery service delivery.

Speaker 15 (04:57):
Service delivery, yes to because we are nothing but commercial units.
We were demoted from citizens to be just workers, human resources.

Speaker 14 (05:12):
Yeah, they say. The twenty twenty four United Nations E
Government Survey highlights significant progress among member states and expanding
online public services and strengthening digital infrastructure. However, the report
also underscores persistent disparities between regions, particularly small among small

(05:35):
island developing states what they call sids, where legislative, infrastructural
and capacity gaps hinder the realization of full E government potential.
And see this is the thing E government. What are
they talking about. I think they're talking about the technocratic
system because E governance there already we're seeing in like

(06:00):
in Ukraine. We've talked about this before. Even as everything
is being destroyed over there, they are implementing systems of
technocratic control and systems of governance which aren't you know,
it's all in the cloud. It's all being done via

(06:21):
the internet, that's right. So I think this is what
this is all about, is they're going to offer solutions
to these small island states and these developmental or what
they call developing countries to implement governance systems that aren't

(06:43):
you know, that are outside of the norm what we
would normally consider. When you think of government, you think
of there's a place where there's buildings, and you go
there and conduct business. You go there and you know,
like the DMV, you get a driver's license, you ask
for permission to drive on the roadways. You have a

(07:05):
number of different places where you can go, you know, courthouses,
federal buildings, state buildings, county buildings, places that are I guess,
for lack of a better way of describing it, that
you can touch. Okay, but what they're moving toward, it
seems to me is something that's less tangent. I'm very

(07:31):
poorly describing this, more of like in the cloud, governance
in the cloud. Yes, does that make sense?

Speaker 15 (07:39):
Yeah, it's exactly right. The our government was transformed into
what really is a partnership of the large corporations, the universities,
and other states. They stole our government, They stole our

(08:05):
system of government right out from under us.

Speaker 14 (08:09):
Yeah. Yeah, and that process continue.

Speaker 15 (08:12):
Dogs didn't bark.

Speaker 14 (08:16):
Yeah, Well, we're the dogs that are supposed to be
barking in this case, and many of us were barking
as we understood it, but we were very well drowned
out by a lot of other distracting barks that happened,
you know, And it's all happened throughout history that we've
had a lot of noise that have drown out patriots,

(08:39):
and even now today we have patriots drowning out real
patriots or people masquerading. Maybe I should say it that way,
people masquerading as patriots that are barking louder than the
real patriots.

Speaker 15 (08:53):
I think masquerading is the right word. Yeah, there are
a lot of people who understand what was done and
they're exploiting it. Of course, you know, because most of
the people in our country are under the delusion that

(09:14):
we have a constitution and we have a government that
is working for the American people. But we don't what
we have. Donald Trump is president of USA incorporated, America incorporated.

(09:38):
It's it's not a government for the American people.

Speaker 14 (09:45):
Exactly. So, they say the Solomon Islands exemplify both the
opportunities and challenges of digital transformation in the SIDS, that is,
the small island developing states. The SIDS context. In June
twenty twenty four, the government launched its draft I'm sorry

(10:06):
you were saying something. No I didn't Oh, I heard
a noise. In June twenty twenty four, the government launched
its draft National Digital Transformation Policy, articulating a vision for
inclusive digital growth and alignment with national, regional, and international
development goals. The policy emphasizes strengthening institutional capacity, developing digital infrastructure,

(10:30):
ensuring accessibility, and fostering multi stakeholder cooperation or collaboration. In
response to the government's a formal request for technical assistance,
the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs the UNDSA,
through the Division for Public Institutions in Digital Government, Digital Government,

(10:50):
Digital government. Did you catch that? Proposes that really says
it all, doesn't it? That phrase digital government.

Speaker 15 (11:01):
Right, because it gives up. What it does is it
eliminates the pretense that we actually have an American government
for the American people.

Speaker 14 (11:12):
Right. Sorry, I was just extinguishing my phone here. In response,
in response to the government's formal request for technical assistance,
the UN Department for Economic and Social Affairs, through the
Division for Public Institutions and Digital Government, proposes a target
Capacity Development Initiative to enhance the skills and knowledge of

(11:34):
public servants in the Solomon Islands in e Government assessment
and digital policy implementation. So just this whole little blurb
here on the United Nations website spells out, in my opinion,
what their plan is for the future. You know, all
of these developing states, these developing nations that they call developing,

(12:00):
how are they going to develop? They're going to develop
right into tyranny, electronic surveillance, monetary surveillance, monetary monetary control
in every way, even as they are trying to work
toward getting all of the developed nations like the United States, Britain,
you know, all the nations of Europe all into this,

(12:21):
into these chains after having been you know, experienced economic
freedom to a degree anyway. I mean, I don't really
think we've really had full economic liberty in our entire
lives we were born. We haven't. We haven't, but we've
had it more of it than than other nations have.

(12:41):
But they are they're doing the best they can to
get stuff us back into the cage, as it were.

Speaker 15 (12:48):
Yeah, because we are nothing more than just workers, workers
in the Americas. And if people are out what I'm
saying here, all you have to do is listen to
the speeches of President George Herbert Walker Bush between the

(13:11):
years of nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety two. The New
World Order was actually, and he used this term in
his nineteen ninety one speech, it was packs universalisk and
that's Pax Universalis. And I'll put the links to that

(13:35):
in the show notes, and you can hear in what
he says during that three year period what the game
plan was, the end of nation states and the beginning
of world governance under the UN system. One world under

(13:56):
the UN system.

Speaker 14 (13:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it all started. It's been going on
for a very, very long time, and certainly George Herbert
Walker Bush was the one that was the first one
that I remember very vividly as I was a teenager
growing up using that phrase new World Order, and I

(14:21):
wasn't tuned in.

Speaker 15 (14:23):
That was kind of a mislead. Actually, the New World
Order was kind of a mislead. Packs Universalis is precise
to what they had in mind. Okay, one world government
under the UN.

Speaker 14 (14:43):
System, But for many years they denied that there was
even a plan for a new world order.

Speaker 15 (14:50):
I know, they're all liars and thieves and they should
all be hung for treason in my opinion. And if
George Herbert Walker Busch wasn't already dead, I'd be and
painting lobbying for him to be hung on the on
the White House lawn.

Speaker 14 (15:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, there's a lot of things that are
being pushed right now. And you know, the thing is
is that one of the things that they are trying,
one of the ways that they are trying to control people.
I mentioned the surveillance state. I mentioned the the fact
that they are trying to digitize everything, digitized government, which

(15:33):
which which is what I think they mean by the
term governance. They don't talk about government.

Speaker 15 (15:39):
It's it's hands off management, is what it is. And
with digital systems they can easily implement a one world system.
And that's the that's the significance of the G seven
and for a time it was G eight, but the

(16:01):
Gang of Seven committee that Europe, European Nations, and the
United States and Canada were all involved in designing and
changing our countries for Pax Americana. Yeah, for Pas universalis

(16:24):
excuse me.

Speaker 14 (16:26):
Yeah. We just had the Carbon thirty, the cop thirty
Carbon Conference, and we talked to I think a couple
of weeks ago. We weren't on the air last week,
but we talked a couple of weeks ago about how
they bulldoze one hundred thousand trees in the Amazon Forest
so that they could have roads and each traffic congestion there.

(16:47):
And of course all the participants, all the attendees flew
in on their private jets and commercial jets to a
lesser degree, but half of them attended private you know,
using private jets. So clearly this was not about carbon questration.
It was about something else. It was a power grab.
But you know, and and they we talked a couple

(17:08):
of weeks ago about how they failed. It was a
failure in some degree. To some degree. We had a
little fun with the fact that they almost you know,
they pretty much burnt the place down with said, you know,
they the African delegation. Evidently there was a fire there.
They were using diesel generators. I think, I think I

(17:29):
remember reading that they had the diesel generators might have
been what actually started the fire.

Speaker 15 (17:36):
But that shows the intellectual fraud of all of it.

Speaker 14 (17:42):
But it was clean diesel. It was clean diesel.

Speaker 15 (17:44):
They said no, because the whole thing, the whole concept
climate change and every thing that goes with it was
really the method of conversion to a one world system MH.

(18:11):
And so the two particular areas for the global governing
system are of course the environment and public health. Yeah,
public health being a function of the environment. Right, So
the so the ideas, the ideology all comes together once

(18:35):
you have the right framework to look at it.

Speaker 14 (18:38):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 17 (18:41):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (18:41):
One thing that I wanted to point out is that
they I said a moment ago that this COP thirty
US I don't want to call it a summit conference
that they had wasn't a failure on all fronts. There
is a there was some push toward putting a price

(19:03):
on carbon, and certainly the bricks the Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa had put together a plan to
put a price on carbon one of the things. In fact,
Edwards slav Squat wrote about this in activist posts. He said,

(19:24):
another nail in the coffin of the unipolar world. While
the lamestream media obsess over a fire that broke out
a COP thirty another Brazilian fire and metaphorical kind the
kind that zoomers used to indicate that something is very cool.
You know, a multipolar I e. That is, fire went
largely unreported. Bricks co founder Brazil and the European Union

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have called on the nations of the world to integrate
their national carbon markets. Brazil and the EU said their
newly formed Open Coalition on Compliance Carbon Markets will promote
quote carb in markets as one of the drivers of
climate action unquote, while seeking interoperability of compliance carbon markets

(20:07):
in the long term. Compliance. Yeah, let's focus our attention
on the compliance aspect of that. This is this is
really a bad development and certainly something that they are
pushing toward in a major way. But where will this

(20:29):
go ultimately? What's the plan? Where do you think that
they ultimately want to take this? I think ultimately it's
going to be.

Speaker 15 (20:39):
Really they're realing back civilized modern society. That that's been
the objective of Agenda twenty one really is to give
the globals control over us and the way we live.

(21:00):
Because the way we live we are serfs, we are
nothing more than workers. So it doesn't and you know,
as long as they can jet around on their jets
and have these global meetings at places like the World
Economic Forum where they're planning out the future for what

(21:26):
to do with this massive population of the world that
are just using resources, right, Yeah, so they're they're cutting there.
They're going to price us out of the ability to
live well.

Speaker 14 (21:41):
At one time, they needed people to be able to
run things. Uh, maybe not the number of people that
we currently have, but they needed a number of people.
Now with the advent of AI and robotics technology, I
think people are largetually well a whole lot more obsolete

(22:03):
now than than they used to be. And so the
globalists really.

Speaker 15 (22:10):
Want useless eaters exactly what has been circulating for a
long time.

Speaker 14 (22:18):
Yeah, the family dependency ratio from which was talked about
by Joan ViOn a lot when she attended the global meetings.
That was one of the things that they had discussed.
But the euro News they their take on this. The
European Union in Brazil urged other countries to embrace mechanisms
that put a price on carbon and develop carbon markets

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to finance global climate action. Critics argue that the decision
could undermine domestic climate ambition and jeopardize financing for restoring
natural carbon sinks. The EU and Brazil launched an appeal
calling for other nations to recognize carbon pricing as a
pragmatic way to cut emissions and fund the green transition,

(23:02):
as world leaders gathered at the COP thirty United Nations
Climate Summit. The Global Bid aims to form a coalition
of countries willing to raise funds from carbon pollution. Now,
keep in mind, listeners, carbon is not pollution. Without it,
everything dies, including you and me. Okay, because ultimately we're

(23:23):
carbon beings. And if we were to quit, or if
every source of carbon were to quit emitting carbon into
the atmosphere, there would be no oxygen because the plants
would die. So everything is designed by God on Earth
to have a balance. And you don't think he considered

(23:44):
the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Of course
he did, you know. So that's why when there's more
CO two, the earth is greener, absorbs more, and the
balance is maintained. But these people think that they're smarter
than God. They think they're wiser than God. They think

(24:06):
they understand the ecosystem and the planet better than God.
And I think the only thing they understand is their
own greed. The revenue would help go ahead.

Speaker 15 (24:20):
Because they have the power. They have, They have the
power of life and death over us because the packs
universe Salas is a fascist corporate system, and so you
know that's why they've basically been stealing everything from every

(24:46):
country that opens up to this new order. The new
order is economic. It's not a it's not a political
system with nation states. It's economic without nation state borders.
It's the end of the Westphalian system. Just put it

(25:10):
like that. It's the end of that.

Speaker 14 (25:12):
Yeah, and it's at the end of human freedom, human happiness,
and your ability to live with any kind of wealth
or any kind of comfort. I mean, their goal is
for everyone to live light on the land, have a
very light footprint, and you won't have access to land,

(25:35):
you won't have the ability to own anything. You really
don't own it now when you have to pay annual
rent twice annual rent on the land you supposedly quote
unquote own, but you won't even have any pretensive ownership
if these people get their way, And it's a miserable,

(25:57):
horrible future. And that's why everybody needs to be paying
attention and fighting against it.

Speaker 15 (26:02):
Yeah, understand what they did and what it's going to
mean in the future, because I guarantee you everybody in
this audience. You are not a citizen of the world
economic order. They eliminated the concept of citizen, except for

(26:24):
the people that have lots of money, they're citizens. It's
like the old Roman Empire.

Speaker 18 (26:28):
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Speaker 14 (26:29):
Yeah, I'll tell you what we got the bottom of
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Speaker 14 (32:01):
Govern Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America.
The website for the show is Governamerica dot com. That's
Governamerica dot com. My email address is radio at Governamerica
dot com. That's radio at Governamerica dot com. Vicky, you

(32:22):
want to give your information out please?

Speaker 12 (32:24):
Okay?

Speaker 14 (32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (32:25):
My website is the Technocratic Tyranny dot com. And my
older website is Channelingreality dot com. And I'm working on
an article that has those three un speeches in there
that George Herbert Walker Bush gave where he he spells

(32:49):
it out basically what the plan is. And so you
can listen to those speeches in sequence and you'll hear
you'll hear what he's talking about. In the nineteen ninety
one speech, he mentions the phrase packs universalis one world.

Speaker 14 (33:12):
One world. That's right, and it's certainly coming into view,
it seems like to a lot of casual observers though
they hit a bump in the road with the Trump presidency.
But that's not really the case, is it.

Speaker 15 (33:29):
No, it isn't, because what Trump if you recall what
he does or what his handlers do. I think he's
just a marketing guy for America's Incorporated. But what he does,
you know, he'll throw out something like we're going to
buy Greenland, you know, because that is of course part

(33:53):
of the Americas, which becomes a governing unit under the
One World System. And I don't know if you've been
paying attention or not, but the Western provinces of Canada
are working on breaking away from Canada and joining the

(34:19):
United States supposedly, but what they will really be joining
and forming is the Pacific Northwest Economic Region. Oh and
that reminds me. That's the way you know that what
I'm saying is true, because when the Asia Pacific Economic

(34:44):
Cooperation Organization was formed, they even refer to their members
as economies, not nation states, but economies.

Speaker 14 (34:57):
Yeah. Good catch, that's interesting.

Speaker 15 (35:01):
Yeah, so so understand. I mean, this is it's taken
me so many years. I've known about this for so long,
but it is so difficult to integrate the concept of
it into your thinking because the treason, the level of

(35:21):
treason is like galactic, So it's really hard to integrate
that into your thinking as a change, a real change
in world order. When I grew up under the Westphalian
system of sovereign nation states, and that's not the way

(35:44):
that they're moving.

Speaker 14 (35:46):
That's well, the difficulty, I think the people first have
to understand regionalism in the first place, and how that's
been used going all the way back to Richard Nixon
and his executive order is plishing the ten federal regions,
which still exist today. By the way, FEMA is still
divided into the ten federal regions, same regions, and I

(36:08):
think there's other federal agencies as well that are divided
into those same federal regions. But on top of that,
you have things like you're talking about that are regions
that are international. And what regionalism really is about is
laying a layer of governance over a geographic area across

(36:29):
borders and making it to the point where things within
that that the boundaries of the region that is outlined
that are outlined are harmonized. And are you know there's
revenue sharing. Revenue sharing is a part of this. There's
a radio host here in Michigan that are you know

(36:53):
he's he's advocating some of this revenue sharing as as
a way to save money so that we can get
rid of the property tax, which I'm all in favor
of getting rid of the property tax. The problem is
is that I don't know that revenue sharing is the
answer to this. I'm concerned about smaller governments being absorbed

(37:15):
into bigger ones or them being adjoined to each other
in order to form bigger ones. And the larger the
form of government, the harder it is to control.

Speaker 15 (37:26):
Right, Well, what it does, what the plan is is
regional councils. And they're eliminating the borders and the concept
of the nation state by implementing regionalism.

Speaker 14 (37:44):
Right.

Speaker 15 (37:44):
And I don't know if you remember, but it was
Nelson Rockefeller who introduced the concept of regionalism into the
UN system, and it was they'd been working on this
for a long time, a long long time. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
And so we we just didn't see it because the

(38:07):
idea it's like finding out that your parents actually are
giving away everything to other children. You know, it's a
difficult concept to internalize that there would be a betrayal
on this scale and scope.

Speaker 14 (38:26):
Well, it's a betrayal not just by those who you
you know, the politicians. You know, there are people there
that you trusted, There are people that you know you
use the analogy of your parents, and that's the ultimate
betrayal when they do your when they do you dirty.
But a lot of people look at these politicians, as

(38:50):
you know, some of them, some of whom can do
no wrong, and.

Speaker 15 (38:55):
Well, some of them are operatives, there's no question about that,
and others of them are Like you and I were
just assuming that the organization of the United States was
solid and that you know that we elect representatives to

(39:16):
represent us. But really all you have to do is
look at the Congress, both the Senate and the House,
but especially the Senate, because the Senate was separated from
our from the people with the what was it, seventeenth
Amendment that made them free floating agents, not really attached

(39:42):
to their state.

Speaker 14 (39:44):
Yeah, let's let's go to the phones, and folks, you're
welcome to call in six ten, six hundred seventeen seventy six.
At six ten, six hundred seventeen seventy six were toll
free eight four four six four six eight three seven six.
That's eight four four govern I will get back to
the euro News article in a moment about the COP

(40:06):
thirty and how they are pushing us closer to carbon pricing,
which I believe is going to be a part of
the monetary system. Ultimately, I think that that was the
plan years ago. We covered it repeatedly on this broadcast,
and I think that any digital currency that they put
forward is probably going to have that built right into it.

Speaker 15 (40:26):
I agree.

Speaker 14 (40:27):
So they have to connect the so called footprint on
the planet to what you pay at the store. And
I think that that's coming. It's coming, It's on its way.
But we'll get to that in a moment as we
progress here. But first let's go to California. I believe
this is Cynthia on the line. Hello, you're on the air,
Go ahead place.

Speaker 9 (40:48):
Good morning, y'all.

Speaker 14 (40:50):
Hi.

Speaker 27 (40:50):
And were you aware.

Speaker 9 (40:52):
What you mentioned George H. W. Bush and operatives and did.

Speaker 14 (40:56):
You did you where?

Speaker 9 (40:58):
Were you aware that there's information that George H. W.
Bush wasn't actually an American citizen, but the German citizen
was important?

Speaker 14 (41:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I do remember seeing Yeah,
there were his picture. They were photographs with the Nazis,
weren't they. I mean, I'm vaguely, vaguely remember that.

Speaker 15 (41:18):
I do remember seeing it, but I was not ready
to receive that information yet, so I thought it was
like a sinfo, but it would be worth going back
and taking a look at that.

Speaker 27 (41:32):
Yes, I'm an advocate that we used the Constitution as
that contract, and it we go back and get to
say legislatures to audit it and demand redress, demand financial redress,
and additional redress if we can, because Americans are deprived
of much opportunity and they're repressed with all of this

(41:55):
external control of our government, which we have no idea
how if it goes until we start digging. The National
Archives were closed in I believe July, restricting Americans' access
to their own history. And so among the history that's
been dug out by Michael Gaddy is that Lincoln unconstitutionally

(42:19):
gave away land masks to the railroad companies, which was
the size that the land masks in total is the
size of the state of Texas. And that can be
retrieved back and used for the people rather than for
the influential families that received that land, which I think
we're finding out that there's the royal families of Europe,

(42:43):
along with their banks first have been acquiring the country
and control of the country since the earliest days of
this republic. So that's that's just what I wanted to say,
is that we need to get the state legislature to act,
and we need to find out who the families are

(43:04):
that are putting their people into the state legislatures to
remove people who have conflicts of interest based on decades
and decades and maybe centuries of control.

Speaker 14 (43:14):
Yeah, I completely agree with you, and we've been advocating
for years on this broadcast. It's an educational process has
to take place on the among the state legislators. However, unfortunately,
many of these people are just completely ignorant of the
power Number one that they hold, the way that they

(43:35):
are able to represent or represent us in Washington, d C.
That's really what they're supposed to be doing. Constitutionally, they
are supposed to be controlling the US government and raining
them in when they get out of control. And this
goes to all levels of state government, but especially the legislature.

(43:58):
If the states don't do it, I don't see that
it can be done.

Speaker 15 (44:04):
Well, for they're not going to do anything unless people
require it confront them with the evidence that we have.
I mean, they basically ended our nation state system, and

(44:25):
they told they told people, you know, mentioned it at
least once. But it's just too much to absorb at
one time. I mean, look, how long it's taken me
to be able to just say it straight out that
treason has been committed against the American people, against our

(44:48):
nation state, and the planning for the new World Order.
I think if you started looking in nineteen sixty five
around there, when David Rockefeller established the Council of the
Americas and well Kennedy started investing in Latin America, they

(45:14):
started developing a continental governing structure. And so you know,
when you understand that, when you see that, that's why
our government is not functioning properly. It's been bifurcated into
international divisions and then domestic divisions, and there's there's like

(45:37):
an invisible wall between the two. And so I think
it was C. H. Douglas. I saw a quote from him,
change anything but the appearance of things. And that's precisely
how they've been taking our nation state apart, is by

(45:58):
leaving the perception of America as an independent nation state
when in fact we're not.

Speaker 14 (46:05):
Well, that's what the whole thing with the North American Union,
that's what the strategy was. You know, they they set
up an you know, the whole plan was to have
an outer security perimeter, but the internal borders for all
intentsive purposes, for practical purposes would be dropped, even though
they would still be there, you know, on the maps

(46:26):
and what have you. They'll probably be little little checkpoints there,
little buildings, little you know, those little looks like toll
road buildings there for people to drive past and talk
to the customs people. But ultimately, for all intents and purposes,
it is there's really no border there at all. I mean,

(46:47):
they've harmonized all the regulations rules. That's what the whole
plan was for the U s MCA. That's why it
was such a betrayal for Trump when he for US
by Trump, I should say, when he campaigned against NAFTA,
said he was going to get rid of it at first,
and then he said repeal and replace, and it ultimately

(47:10):
we ended up with essentially the same thing with a
few modifications. You know. I remember Carla Hills, who was
the main negotiator of NAFTA, talking about she was a
US trade representative at the time it was adopted. She
said about the US NCA that it was about basically
the same agreement, just modernized for the twenty first century.

Speaker 15 (47:30):
Right exactly. And in order to see the regionalism the best,
just all you have to do is look at the
Pacific Northwest Economic Region. That's pnweer dot org. And it's

(47:51):
four states or five states from the US, the Canadian
provinces right above us, which include Alberta and what is it,
British Columbia. I can't remember all of them, but it
also includes of course Alaska. And so that is the

(48:15):
Pacific Northwest Economic.

Speaker 14 (48:17):
Region, yep.

Speaker 15 (48:19):
And that's that's how they're implementing this global system of governance.

Speaker 14 (48:25):
Which they call peace. Yeah, peace by pieces, peace chunks,
chunks of the government, chunks of the United States being
flying off, in chunks of other countries flying on. And uh,
they're they're they're literally breaking the country up before and

(48:46):
and and then all you have to do is look
and see what's going on right now in dearborn, dearborn
Michigan as you have all these these Muslim populations, you
got Somalia. In fact, maybe we'll get into some of
the Somalian new in Minnesota right now, as there's been
a huge corruption scam that has been in the news,

(49:08):
and you know, we're probably I'm sure that we're just
seeing just the tip of the iceberg of this, and
there's probably many other things that haven't been uncovered yet.

Speaker 15 (49:18):
In terms of these it's happen. The same thing is
happening all over our country and has been for quite
a while. They allow diaspora, what they call the Aspera
communities to move into the United States. They're actually importing
foreigners through the refugee resettlement system. And if you notice,

(49:39):
when they've talked about what's wrong with Somalia, they say,
it's just a territory. It's no longer a nation state. Yeah,
that's part of the part of that region. There's a
region over there that it's.

Speaker 14 (49:56):
Part of, and so we're being colonized.

Speaker 15 (50:00):
Yeah, exactly, exactly because we're not a nation state, we're
just economic territory.

Speaker 14 (50:09):
Cynthia, did you have anything.

Speaker 27 (50:10):
Else, Well, I wanted to mention a couple other things
that you may want me to call back about that.
One of them is that the national debt is fraud,
is based on spending that was never constitutionally authorized, and
that I think if you trace for that money went,
it went into the hands of these these wealthy families

(50:31):
that were wealthy from long ago that have found ways
to use the average people to fund their acquisition. And
number two that the federal government never gave up land
to the state that they were constitutionally required to, and
that there's a lot of golden Arizona on those quote

(50:53):
federal lands, which actually may be tribal lands because they
have this nasty habit of that it's their land.

Speaker 9 (51:01):
The fens decided their land when.

Speaker 27 (51:03):
They want to. They use the environmental controls to grab
your land. They use a lot of other tactics to
grab your land. One of them is putting those inland ports.
For then they did have fifty miles jurisdiction in all
directions right.

Speaker 15 (51:20):
In inland ports are international territory. And what they've done
with the interstate highway system is to build a system
of corridors and ports. So they basically turned our country
into a land bridge for an international system of commerce.

Speaker 17 (51:46):
Yep, Oh, so.

Speaker 27 (51:49):
Much for tariffs. Yeah, maybe they forced them, maybe they didn't. Well,
they used it to bring moves into the country.

Speaker 14 (52:00):
Yeah, well, we're almost up to the break. You have
anything else, No, I just wanted.

Speaker 27 (52:07):
To plant those ideas that somebody wealthy is not part
of the system. Needs to think about funding teenagers learning
all this information early, going off to college, and then
coming back to their home communities to do a career
both as a businessman and as a legislator.

Speaker 14 (52:25):
Yep, exactly. Yeah, I appreciate that, appreciate the call because
I absolutely agree with you. We definitely need to educate
our state lawmakers. I hate to call them state law
state legislators, because their their role is to represent us,
and that's what needs to happen.

Speaker 11 (52:43):
They need to be a lot they've been.

Speaker 15 (52:45):
They've been bought off.

Speaker 14 (52:46):
Well not all of them, not all of them, not.

Speaker 15 (52:50):
All of them. But that's kind of a recent what
I would say, is a recent development, and it's it's
because the American people have been so oppressed. I mean,
if you notice the it's the foreigners who get what
they want, but the American people are basically shut down,

(53:14):
shut out, and it's because of the system that they
set up, you know, which is a global system of commerce.
They're in commerce. We are just workers.

Speaker 14 (53:29):
Yeah. Finishing up this year on news article here real quick,
the revenue talking about the revenue for let me back
up one paragraph. The Global Bid aims to form a
coalition of countries willing to raise funds from carbon pollution
and invest them in clean technologies to help cut greenhouse
gas emissions. The revenue would help countries to implement their

(53:52):
national climate plans and continue working to deliver the Paris Agreement,
adopted ten years ago at COP twenty one. Gloration, unveiled
this past COP thirty as an output of the pre
COP thirty leaders meeting, was a symbolic way to encourage
world nations to develop strategies and establish carbon markets, akin

(54:13):
to the EU's mission trading schemes ets in place since
two thousand and five. Under the ETS, the EU makes
companies pay for the emissions they produce. The block's carbon
pricing system has slashed so called greenhouse gas emissions by
fifty percent relative to two thousand and five and generated

(54:34):
over two hundred and fifty billion dollars in revenue. And
that's according to the European Commission. I'm sure we can
believe everything. The European Commission says, Hey, if they want,
they want to cut carbon emissions by one hundred percent,
they could just kill everybody and stop all the economy.

Speaker 15 (54:50):
Well, those systems they say they're for the climate, but
what they really are are systems to control economic activity
and to control you what you do. And so don't
you know, forget about the environment. This is not about

(55:12):
the environment, and you can tell that by the conference
down in Brazil. They don't give a damn about the environment.
What they care about is the capture and control of people.

Speaker 14 (55:26):
Yeah, they say. Commission President Rasilla Vanderleyan confirm the block
support for the declaration endorsed by the likes of France, Germany,
the UK, China and Brazil, and recognizes carbon markets as
a driver of climate action. Quote. Carbon pricing has become
a central tool to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. With a

(55:49):
strong business case for the economy and for the people,
we want to work closely with Brazil and with many
like minded partners on putting a price on carbon unquote
or lay In said, all right, at the top of
the hour, right now, so let's go ahead and take
a break a little more to this article. We can
finish it up in the next hour. I think it's
very important because people need to know where we're headed.

(56:11):
This is not a plan that is going away. This
is a plan that is full steam ahead, and they
intend to lock us down with carbon pricing and it
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For American Family News, I'm Robert Thornton. Jobless claims are down.
Here's Fox's Lillian wou.

Speaker 29 (59:09):
There were one hundred and ninety one thousand initial jobless
claims last week, the lowest since September twenty twenty two,
analysts were anticipating two hundred and twenty thousand the previous
week revised higher to two hundred eighteen thousand. The drop
in new claims likely exaggerated by Thanksgiving, with lots of
people who lose jobs around holiday, delaying filling out applications.

(59:31):
Continuing claims dipped. Consulting from Challenger Grand Christmas tracking seventy
one thousand plus layoff announcements in November, a step down
from massive cuts announced in October, but still enough for
this year's total to top one point one million, the
most since twenty twenty when COVID hit.

Speaker 28 (59:49):
Texas's lieutenant governor proposed as a state version of Trump
Accounts for newborns, but not everyone is sold on the idea.
Here's Fox's Christian.

Speaker 30 (59:56):
Goodwin, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick taking to Acts to
say the new Little Texan Savings Fund would aim to
invest one thousand dollars in public funding in the stock
market for every baby born in the state. It models
a federal plan created as part of President Trump's Big
Beautiful Bill, Patrick explaining it would cost the state about
four hundred million dollars a year, less than one percent
of its current two year budget, but critics argue that's

(01:00:19):
still too much and it will end up expanding government
instead of limiting it, Patrick posting, if I see a
great idea from the President that helps Texans, my first
question is always why not do it in Texas too,
adding he'd prioritize the measure during the state's twenty twenty
seven legislative session.

Speaker 28 (01:00:36):
Under the federal Trump Accounts Plan, American children born between
January first of twenty twenty five and December thirty, first
of twenty twenty eight would be eligible for a one
thousand dollars deposit into an investment account. Earlier this week,
Austin billionaires Michael and Susan Dale pledged more than six
billion dollars to help bun the program. President Donald Trump's

(01:00:56):
effort to install top federal prosecutors has run into legal
issues lately, with judges ruling that his selections for US
attorneys for New Jersey, Eastern Virginia, Nevada, and Los Angeles
we're all serving unlawfully. Today, another federal judge heard an
argument by New York Attorney General Letitia James that the
administration also twisted the law when appointing the US attorney

(01:01:16):
for Northern New York Justice Department lawyers say the attorney
was appointed properly. In the motion to block the subpoenas
should be denied. Kidnappings remain a problem in Nigeria. Here's
AFNs Chris Woodward the details.

Speaker 31 (01:01:29):
Todd Nettleton, a Voice of the Martyr, says kidnappings are
happening in multiple states of Nigeria. In one case, one
hundreds of students were kidnapped.

Speaker 32 (01:01:38):
What we don't know right now is what is behind this?
Is this simple criminal activity to raise money. We want
to get some ransom, so we're going to grab some
people and charge a ransom and then we're going to
give them back. Or is this targeting Christian.

Speaker 31 (01:01:52):
In another case, a pastor and as bride we're taking
from their own wedding celebration.

Speaker 32 (01:01:56):
Is that a targeting of a pastor or? Is that,
like I said, just a criminal activity to try to
raise funds. Those are things we're still figuring out, but
it is completely unsafe in Northern Nigeria right now, and
it appears, at least from a distance, that part of
this is targeting Christians.

Speaker 31 (01:02:14):
In November, President Donald Trump redesignated Nigeria as a country
of Particular Concern, doing part to how Christians are being
treated in Nigeria. Trump made a similar move in December
of twenty twenty.

Speaker 32 (01:02:26):
One of the big questions is, Okay, you've called it
a country of particular concern, but it's not the government
that's the problem as far as actively persecuting Christians. Now,
could the government do more to protect Christians? That is
a very good question, and yes they probably could.

Speaker 14 (01:02:43):
You know.

Speaker 32 (01:02:43):
The good news is people are talking about this. The
good news is many Christians are praying for Nigeria that
weren't praying for Nigeria six months ago.

Speaker 28 (01:02:53):
Fox's theory Scarly has a list of the most mispronounced names.

Speaker 33 (01:02:56):
The language learning company Babbel notes, a lot of these
names come from different languages, so we have to adapt
to a sound we'd never made before. So ran Mam Donni,
the mayor elect of New York, also one of the
year's most Google names, says it's Zoran not Zoran and
often gets mam Danmi or even Zamdani, who can pronounce
made up pharma names. Mount Jaro is as awkward as

(01:03:18):
it looks. The GLP weight loss drug. The reason people
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Avon.

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Sure we have before us the opportunity to forge for
ourselves and for future generations, a new world.

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Order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
This is a moment to cease. The kaleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux.

Speaker 18 (01:04:21):
Soon they will settle again.

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
Before they do, let.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Us re order this world around.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
Us, a new world order, a world where the United
Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape this
so that the problem of the pot prendsidentity will be
the emergence of a new international order the.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
First decade of the twenty first century. But out of
what is will be feelings, the greatest restructuring of the
global economy, greatest restoctoring of the global economy, greatest restructuring
of the global economy, A new world order was created
right documenting.

Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
The crisis of our rebublic.

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and
open society, and we are as a people inherently and
historic opposed to secret societies, the secret oaths and a
secret proceedings.

Speaker 11 (01:05:18):
Waging war on the new World order.

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Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
sought or unsought, by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
This is Governor America, Daring Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 14 (01:05:37):
From Female Regions five and ten. This is the second
Hour of Governor America. Vicky Davis is here. I'm Durren Weeks.
It continues to be the sixth of December twenty twenty
five as we are in this post Thanksgiving show, and
I'm glad to have everybody back, and we're going to
be approaching We're approaching the Christmas holiday very soon and

(01:05:57):
then New Year's and then we'll be sunsetting and up year.
It's hard to believe twenty twenty five. It is just
kind of flown by, but here we are almost at
the end of another year.

Speaker 15 (01:06:07):
Yeah, it goes by so fast.

Speaker 14 (01:06:10):
Yeah, too fast. Anyway, we are talking about the carbon
pricing mechanism, the scam that's in place with pricing carbon,
big big push for that in the COP thirty summit
that took place this, you know, just a couple of
weeks ago, and we are learning more and more about

(01:06:32):
it all the time. Advocates, according to this euro News
article I've been sharing, advocates of the mechanism to price
carbon argue that they have a credible carbon mark, carbon
market in place. That having a credible carbon market in place,
in other words, making a market when there is none,

(01:06:53):
that's that's what they're doing, would give investors. And that's
really what it's about.

Speaker 34 (01:06:58):
Isn't it totally money in a world organized by economy,
that's all it's about.

Speaker 15 (01:07:09):
It's all about money.

Speaker 14 (01:07:10):
It's about power, and it's about grifting, grifting you out
of your sustenance and your ability to live freely.

Speaker 15 (01:07:18):
Yeah, because you're just a worker. See, that's what people
have to internalize. They reduce. They eliminated the concept of citizenship,
which is a function of the nation state, and they
created a world, you know, like the Roman Empire, where

(01:07:39):
you had the citizens who were members of the governing structure,
and then you had the serfs. Yeah, well you're a
serf on a serf. Everybody that we talked to, you're
just a serf. So internalize that and then decide what
you're going to do about it.

Speaker 14 (01:07:59):
Yeah, suck it up, Buttercup, You're a surf you're a slave,
you're a You're not somebody that has any real ability
to do what you want. You think you do. But
keep watching TV, keep not paying attention, keep playing whatever
games that you want to play. But at the end

(01:08:19):
of the day, were you're going to look back and
look around you and wonder what happened? Many people did
that twenty twenty. I think that was really a big
wake up call to a lot of people. I think
it was, and that.

Speaker 15 (01:08:34):
It was the first encouraging sign that I saw that,
you know, people were beginning to understand what has been
done to us, even if they couldn't articulate it. Hell,
it's taken me a long time to be able to
articulate it so.

Speaker 14 (01:08:54):
Well. There's so many details to articulate, and it takes
a lifetime, literally a lifetime of connecting dots and reading
documents and following documentation, following the trails, some of which
lead to dead ends. And that takes a lot of time.

(01:09:15):
And most people don't have the time because they have
to go to work, they have to earn a paycheck,
otherwise they starve, and we know most Americans are a
paycheck or two away from utter destruction. And that's a
sad place to be. That's why they keep us that way.
By the way, though, and that's why they have promoted

(01:09:37):
women's rights, not to help women, but to get them
out of the home so that they're not raising their
families and so that they don't have time to attend
meetings that are important county meetings, local meetings, do activism.
You know, a lot of women were getting involved in
you know, PTA meetings and school boards and all of

(01:10:01):
that stops when a woman has to go to work.

Speaker 15 (01:10:06):
Yeah, poverty is the ultimate control.

Speaker 14 (01:10:09):
Mechanism, yes, exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:10:11):
Because you can't do anything, you know, if you're a
poor person. And so you know, that's why they did
the attack on our economy, exporting our economy to other
countries because it's a control mechanism.

Speaker 14 (01:10:30):
So the control mechanism for carbon pricing that they're trying
to put into place, they say, we'll have a credible
Having a credible market in place would give investors the
certainty to unlock financing for projects that cut or capture
greenhouse gas emissions, such as reforestation, renewable energy or low

(01:10:53):
carbon industries. Now, isn't it funny? And I know I
keep coming back to this, but they keep talking about reforestation,
even at a conference where they deforested to build roads
for the conference.

Speaker 15 (01:11:07):
That just shows that I keep.

Speaker 14 (01:11:10):
Throwing that out there, but it just it blows me
away that do they do these people not have any
self awareness at all? Critics say that I don't.

Speaker 15 (01:11:20):
Think they do, because they are they are citizens.

Speaker 11 (01:11:23):
We are not.

Speaker 15 (01:11:24):
We're just serfs. You got You've got to integrate that
into your thinking, that they have made people like us
just serfs who don't count.

Speaker 14 (01:11:36):
Yeah. Critics say that putting the spotlight on carbon pricing
could divert attention from real emissions cutting like investing in
restoring natural carbon zincs like forests and oceans. Around fifty
five national jurisdictions currently implement carbon pricing initiatives, either carbon

(01:11:58):
taxes or emissions trading systems, accounting for around twenty eight
percent of global GHG emissions according to the World Bank.
These represents these represent half of global emissions from the
power and industrial sectors. World Bank Senior Managing Director Axel
Van Trotzenberg hailed carbon pricing as a quote unquote powerful

(01:12:22):
tool that can help countries cutting missions, raise domestic revenues
in tight fiscal environments. You see, it's about the money, folks,
and boost green growth and job creation. Carbon credit markets
can also help mobilize private capital and channel funds into
development priorities. Again, all about the money. It's all about

(01:12:45):
the the scam of grifting people, grifting you, charging you
through the nose for everything, as if inflation isn't already
killing you. Matilde Migno, Group Director Nature and Tech Anology
based Solutions at Schneider Electric Advisory Services and an advocate
of carbon credits as a credible climate tool, said global

(01:13:10):
decarbonization demands unprecedented investment, with developing countries alone needing one
trillion dollars annually by twenty thirty. Well, listeners, if you
think that a trillion dollars is going to be going
to these companies, you don't think that they're going to
skim off the top a substantial amount, You're out of
your mind.

Speaker 25 (01:13:30):
Again.

Speaker 14 (01:13:31):
We come back to.

Speaker 15 (01:13:31):
Yeah, just look at our healthcare system. What they did
to that. It's all a big con game. And what
putting it into a market structure does is that it
allows government to claim, oh, gee, there's nothing we can

(01:13:51):
do about it. This is the this is capitalism, this
is private sector. We can't interfere with that. Well, the
whole carbon market thing, it is a government tax, and
it's to tax you into poverty.

Speaker 14 (01:14:09):
Yeah, exactly right, so they say. But environmental groups remain
skeptical of carbon taxation and have spoken out against it
in the run up to COP thirty. Carbon markets And
this is a quote from Anderson Amero, a member of

(01:14:31):
Brazil's Small Farmers Movement and the Latin American Coordination of
Rule Organizations. Anderson says carbon markets are a new way
for billionaires in corporations to extract more wealth from our territories.
They win twice with permission to expand activities related to
fossil fuels and with profits from carbon water and biodiversity

(01:14:57):
offset markets. Boy, he's right about that.

Speaker 15 (01:15:02):
Yeah, it's you know, once you understand, once you integrate
that into your thinking, everything they're doing makes so much sense. Oh,
you know why our government stood down in the protection
of us as citizens. You know, if you look at

(01:15:24):
what happened in Minnesota and all those Somali's in there,
they were imported workers I guess you could say imported.
They're imported, and they become citizens in our country. Whereas
we have been demoted to just workers, we don't count,

(01:15:47):
they do.

Speaker 14 (01:15:49):
Yeah, if you wanted to know what she's talking about listeners.
In case you haven't been following it, there's an article
here in the Daily Mail. Minnesota once prided itself on
scanded safety style, safety net, high taxes, generous benefits, and
a shared belief that no child should ever go hungry.
But that image lies in ruins after a billion dollar

(01:16:09):
frauds free that siphon tax payer money away from the
needy and poured it straight into luxury mansions, high end cars, overseas,
real estate, and designer lifestyles. What authorities first hope was
a one off, pandemic scam has now been exposed to
something far bigger and far uglier. Federal prosecutors say that
over the past five years, scores of scammers, many operating

(01:16:33):
inside Minnesota's Somali diaspora, stole more than one billion dollars
intended for feeding children, helping homeless families, and providing autism therapy.
Now that billion dollars, they mentioned, that's not really the
real cost it's much much, much higher than that. As

(01:16:53):
a matter of fact, there is just a I got
a Fox News report. Let me just go ahead and
play this because there's a statement now that it could
be up to like I think, nine billion.

Speaker 35 (01:17:07):
Dollars investigators are finding in Minnesota is growing by the day.
Kelly Leffler, who leads the Small Business Administration, says in
the two days her agency has been investigating the state,
they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud
just two days in. Several of the whistleblowers in Minnesota
have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of

(01:17:29):
fraud could total up to more than eight billion.

Speaker 14 (01:17:33):
Dollars, okay, eight billion dollars.

Speaker 35 (01:17:35):
Governor Tim Wallas, who is up for reelection, is under
fire for all of this happening under his watch, but
he says they have paused these programs, They've brought an
outside auditors to get an idea of how far reaching
this fraud was. They're taking steps to keep it from
happening again. And he's defending his management of the state
while also taking shots at Republicans and the President.

Speaker 36 (01:17:56):
And in spite of the headwinds, we're up against Minnesota
ranks economically, economic growth, happiness, number of people ensured, education levels.

Speaker 11 (01:18:09):
Near the very top.

Speaker 36 (01:18:10):
So I'll tell you what, I have no interest in
having this state look like Oklahoma or Mississippi. And if
folks are going to commit crimes here thinking because our
generous spirit and our programs that we have is going
to give them some kind of cover, they are sadly mistaken.

Speaker 14 (01:18:25):
Minnesota is also apparently not.

Speaker 27 (01:18:29):
Well.

Speaker 15 (01:18:29):
The thing is is that it's just being exposed in
Minnesota because of the outrageousness of ilhan Omar, But it's
in all of our states. It's this kind of massive
spending that benefits foreigners but not us.

Speaker 14 (01:18:53):
Yeah, the Somali thing they say in this Daily Mail article, Well, instead,
the money bankrolled the money that was stolen. They said
a billion dollars as you just heard. It's believed now
it could be as high as eight billion. The money

(01:19:15):
bankrolled ge wagons, teslas porschas, lakefront homes, Dubai shopping sprees,
and beachside resorts abroad. Minnesotans are livid and scared because
this wasn't a small time hustle. It was a full
scale hijacking of the state's famously trusting, famously generous social

(01:19:36):
services machine. This is why you don't do communism, folks.
And this is why you also don't do communitarianism. Let
people deal with it on their own. Leave the charities
for the churches, for the religious houses, and for families
the way things used to be. You know, the more

(01:19:59):
socialism you do, you the more you get into this
type of trouble. And and and and and I have
to say this is a bipartisan issue because who was
at the helm when all of this COVID pandemic grift started?
But Donald J. Trump, Okay, he enabled it all, and
then Biden took over and he continued the grift. So

(01:20:23):
it is a bipartisan situation. This would have never happened.

Speaker 15 (01:20:30):
Well at the start, and where where it started seems
to have been primarily with Republican administration. And I've gone
back and looked at looked at UH throughout history because
I don't make definitive statements unless I can back it up.

(01:20:52):
And Reagan started the deconstruction of our country. It was
during his administration that they kicked off the negotiations for
the Uruguay Round of Trade Agreements, which ultimately ended up
creating the World Trade Organization, and then George Herbert Walker

(01:21:16):
Trader Bush then gave those three un speeches actually laying
out the plans for the new World Order, which again
is Pax universalis.

Speaker 14 (01:21:35):
Yeah. They say over the past, over the past five years,
that they created companies that build Minnesota's agencies for services
that were wildly exaggerated or never happened at all. They
tried to say that they were feeding children, hungry children,
among other things. Fifty Nine people have been convicted so far,

(01:21:56):
with more cases pending. The total haul now, as they said,
top billion dollars, but probably much much larger, up to
eight billion. Possibly. This is mind blowing And as Vicky
points out, how many other states, how many other places
have similar things going on? I guarantee you this is

(01:22:19):
just the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 12 (01:22:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:22:21):
IRS investigator Justin Campbell called it the impire epitome of greed.
The scandal Blue Open In twenty twenty two, a nonprofit
called Feeding Our Future claimed it was feeding tens of
thousands of children during the pandemic. State agencies reimbursed the
group and its partner sites based solely on invoices invoices
that prosecutors say, we're almost entirely fiction. Well, it sounds

(01:22:44):
to me like somebody wasn't checking on anything. Why were they.

Speaker 15 (01:22:48):
Paying this group, They weren't doing any audits.

Speaker 14 (01:22:51):
Well, yeah, no audits whatsoever. Nice to know that your
tax money is going out the door with no checks whatsoever.
Lists of children were fabricated, meal counts were invented, and
the money it paid for luxury fleets and global real
estate ventures. Cars included Porscha's gew wagons, Tesla's and tricked

(01:23:17):
out SUV's. Houses range from suburban McMansions to lake front estates. Jewelry,
designer bags, and lavish foreign investments were all a part
of the hall. One central figure was Abdiazi's Chaffil Farrah
thirty six, helped steal forty seven million dollars along with others.
He spent his share on ninety three thousand dollars portia

(01:23:41):
at Tesla, a GMC truck, homes in Minnesota and Kentucky,
and a condo in Nairobi. A judge handed him twenty
eight years in August, So, I guess if there's a
good thing for him, he still got a big house.
He is in a the big house.

Speaker 15 (01:24:00):
Yeah, it's just unbelievable. But you know, of course they
brought legislators into their scams and schemes, and so that's
why your legislators blow you off when you go to
complain about something. That's what happened to us here in

(01:24:21):
Idaho when we were trying to figure out what was
going on with refugee re settlement. Yeah, you know, why
would they bring these people in? They have nothing in
common with us. Our culture is incompatible with these people.

(01:24:44):
But you know, our legislators were all on board, you know,
bring bringing them in.

Speaker 14 (01:24:49):
Yeah. They talk about Amy Bach. She's a forty four
year old and she's the nonprofit leader at the center
of the scam. She's awaiting sentencing as well. Prosecutors say
that she he used her share on a Mercedes Vegas, trips,
exotic car rentals, and designer goods from Gucci and Lewis Fuitten.
So did I pronounce that right?

Speaker 15 (01:25:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:25:13):
I don't know either, because I don't I'm not in
that world. Millions more were sunk into investments, including two
and a half million dollars commercial building in Minneapolis and
real estate projects in Kenya and Turkey. The meals were faked,
the luxury lifestyle was not. As investigators sifted through bank records,
they realized the feeding program fraud was only the beginning.

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Two more schemes quickly surfaced. A housing aids scam saw
hundreds of quote unquote providers billing this state for helping
homeless Minnesotas stay off the streets. Prosecutors say virtually nothing
was actually done except cashing checks. The program exploded from
a projected two point six million dollars to more than
one hundred four million dollars a year. Then came the

(01:25:56):
autism therapy scam, where providers allegedly recruited Somali children, falsely
diagnosed them as needing treatment, and paid parents kickbacks for participating.
The article goes on from there. I think i'll leave
that there in the interest of time, as we're almost
up to the break. It's quite a lengthy article that'll
be in the show notes along with everything else we
talk about. But yeah, as you pointed out, VICKI, this

(01:26:19):
is a good illustration of why the migrant program as
we know it, you know, the whole thing has been
rot with fraud. Why don't we have more of these
types of investigations going on, because I guarantee you when
Biden was in power, when he was in office, you
had all these different NGOs scamming the public, all of

(01:26:42):
these different NGOs making profit off of destroying the country
and importing all these people from god knows where, and
I think we're a lot worse off as a result
of it. But more importantly, where did all that money go?
That's what people need to be asking. All right, we
got to take a break. We'll be back.

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The Bible describes with some detail a mighty creature known
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To have been a hippo.

Speaker 37 (01:28:09):
On today's Creation Moment, we'll show you what it really was,
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Speaker 38 (01:28:16):
In Job forty, there is an account of a large
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of the Hebrew word, which is a plural of the
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behemoth appears only once, and, despite its plural form, appears
to be referring to a singular example. It's likely, therefore,

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that the word is not being used simply as a
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Bible versions. Therefore, footnote the word behemoth and comment that
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is a large animal. It eats plants. This fits both
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If you look at the rear end of a hippo,
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pretty small. But so it's an elephant's tale. So Bohemoth
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(01:32:13):
you're on the year. Go ahead, please, Hey.

Speaker 17 (01:32:17):
Guys, it's Art and Georgia there, you know, talking about
this whole Minnesota thing. I find it very interesting. The
first time I heard about it was back in I
believe it was like right around the first part of August,
and it was about one guy was sentenced to I

(01:32:40):
I think it was almost almost thirty years. It wasn't
quite thirty years, but it was almost thirty years for
about forty something million dollars. And this was from the
COVID nineteen pandemic, the program that was meant to feed
the children that you were talking about. Yeah, And since

(01:33:00):
since then, there's been like a total now is seventy
eight as of like late November, seventy eight different people
who've been charged in these different various different frauds. And
I find it really interesting that, you know, Kim Waltz
is up there talking all this smack about it if

(01:33:22):
you commit crimes blah blah blah blah. Yeah, come on,
you're not gonna tell me that we have if the number,
if the whistleblowers are true, that we have nearly eight
eight billion dollars.

Speaker 14 (01:33:37):
Yeah, fraud. I tell you what, I think that games.
I would be very surprised if there wasn't.

Speaker 17 (01:33:42):
Take backstit, let me finish. I find it very difficult
to believe that, if that number is correct, nearly eight
billion dollars, that Tim Walltz did not There's no way
this happens on this scale and you not be aware
of it, especially when just recently, I think it was

(01:34:06):
about like three or four days ago, a report came
out They played an audio recording I'm not kidding you
blew my mind where high ranking members within the Somali
community literally told Tim Waltz you don't have to worry

(01:34:27):
about fundraising anymore and we will cover you as long
as you look out for us. Now what does that
tell you?

Speaker 14 (01:34:39):
Yeah, I think to be honest with you, I wouldn't
be a bit surprised if you look deeper into this,
deep enough into this that a lot of the Democrat
Party candidates aren't being funded by a lot of this
grift that's going on. It's happening in Michigan. I can
tell you the Economic of Development Corporation is rot with

(01:35:02):
corruption here and a lot of that money, I believe
is very very clear, has went to fund Democrat Party candidates.
So if Pam Bondy and the Trump administration really wanted
to do some investigation and legitimate prosecution of fraud, that's
a good place to start. And it wouldn't be weaponization

(01:35:25):
of government, that would be prosecuting legitimate fraud.

Speaker 15 (01:35:29):
Well, they don't want to clean it up anymore than
Democrats do because the way that the money changes hands
is through businesses and nonprofits. Because it's a commercial world. Yeah,
you know, so Republicans are out there with their hands

(01:35:51):
grabbing for the money the same way as the Democrats.
It's just that the Democrats chose working directly with the foreigners,
the asper communities, while the Republicans focused on business businesses.

Speaker 14 (01:36:10):
What they really what they really want to go after
are people who are reminding people to follow their oats
of office.

Speaker 15 (01:36:19):
Yes, yes, which.

Speaker 14 (01:36:20):
To me is just nuts. You know, I'm talking about
this seditious six inconvenience. You remember that, you know, the
seditious six controversy that's going on right now. Yeah, I
doubt I'm going to have any friends whatsoever on this
issue among conservatives, you know, very few anyway. But this, well,

(01:36:43):
let me just play the video because I get your
take on this too. Art this Democrat video that's been
widely circulated on the internet, of these six Democrats urging
people to not follow unconstitutional orders. We want to speak
directly to members of the military.

Speaker 10 (01:37:00):
The intelligence community to take risks each day keep Americans safe.

Speaker 23 (01:37:04):
We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

Speaker 15 (01:37:07):
Americans trust their military, but that.

Speaker 8 (01:37:09):
Trust is at risk.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
This administration is pitting our uniform military.

Speaker 15 (01:37:13):
And intelligence community professionals.

Speaker 14 (01:37:15):
Against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath.

Speaker 18 (01:37:18):
To protect and is then this constitution right now?

Speaker 10 (01:37:22):
The threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad,
but from right here at home.

Speaker 14 (01:37:26):
Our laws are clear.

Speaker 40 (01:37:27):
You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 35 (01:37:30):
You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 41 (01:37:32):
You must refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 23 (01:37:34):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.

Speaker 14 (01:37:38):
We know this is hard and that it's a difficult
time to be a public servant.

Speaker 15 (01:37:42):
But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or Navy,
the Air Force.

Speaker 14 (01:37:46):
Your vigilance is critical.

Speaker 17 (01:37:48):
And know that we have your back because now more than.

Speaker 15 (01:37:51):
Ever, the American people need you.

Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
We need you to stand up for our laws, our constitution,
and who we are as Americans.

Speaker 14 (01:37:58):
Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up.

Speaker 15 (01:38:01):
Don't give up the ship.

Speaker 14 (01:38:02):
Okay, So that that video just set off a firestorm
among conservatives and patriots saying that, oh my gosh, they're
all seditious. They're calling for them to disobey orders. No,
they said unlawful or non constitutional orders. And I'm listening
to that and I'm thinking, Okay, I listened to it
more than once because I'm I'm trying to think, what's

(01:38:25):
the problem here. Oh, but it's the timing. Oh, they're
just trying to get everybody. No, folks, they're not supposed
to follow unconstitutional or unlawful orders. So technically, and you
can say, well, what about their motive and all this
other stuff, I can't speak to that, but I can
tell you, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article

(01:38:48):
ninety two. Service members are required to obey lawful orders,
but not all orders are lawful.

Speaker 15 (01:38:56):
Yeah right, Well, you know, one of the papers that
I found was produced at the Naval Academy in Newport,
Rhode Island, and it's actually kind of a I got
back to where I started from, which was looking at
Thomas P. M. Barnett because of his project on nine

(01:39:23):
to eleven what happened on nine to eleven. But the
title of that paper is towards Pax Universalis. And interestingly,
what they studied were five eras of the Roman Empire
and then they added the British Empire and one other.

(01:39:48):
But the you know, the Naval War College was looking
at what is the what is the meaning? What is
the impact of Pax Universalis? Did I say Pax Americana before?
That was Wrong's Pax Universalis. So it's a real thing.

(01:40:12):
They turned our country into a damn business. Yeah, and
demoted all of us to just workers and consumers.

Speaker 14 (01:40:22):
Yeah. I want to get back real quick to this
seditious six thing. You have an opinion on that art.

Speaker 17 (01:40:31):
Well, I'm going to have to speak as former military okay,
because I went I joined the army at the age
of seventeen in February, I went, I swore my oath
February thirteenth, February thirteenth of nineteen eighty so I can
only speak as former military. When I was going through

(01:40:52):
basic training, this issue was discussed. Okay, we were told
that the under the military uh Dakota Military, Uh, I'm sorry,
the the law of armed conflict, you are required to
obey all lawful, lawful orders, as you stated, but you

(01:41:14):
are also required to refuse unlawful orders as you mentioned.
And they gave us an example if you had say
and they from I've had her. I've heard stories from
former vet Vietnam vets who told me that they had

(01:41:35):
been ordered such things as after they went into a
village and they found like weapons, cashes and stuff like that,
they were literally told to burn the burn the village,
the little the little village to the ground. Now, according
to my drill instructor, that would be an unlawful order, right,
You're not supposed to burn villages to the ground, just

(01:41:57):
like if they told you. And I heard I don't
know if this actually happened or not, but I'd heard
some stories about orders being given during UH the Afghan
invasion where orders were given to kill a bunch of people, well,
would have been an unlawful order.

Speaker 14 (01:42:18):
But yeah, and you're not protected if you equation.

Speaker 17 (01:42:23):
And if you're in a combat situation and uh, you're
you're you're you say you've got RPGs or whatever coming
out of a village and you're told bomb that village,
that's a lawful order because fire is coming from there.

(01:42:43):
Just like when they were trying to go in Afghanistan,
when they were trying to go into cabal and they
were they came under fire, they were following lawful orders
to take these people out. Those are lawful orders. So
you have to be able to differentiate between an unlawful
and a lawful order. So what these people were saying

(01:43:05):
is correct.

Speaker 14 (01:43:07):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:43:09):
Tention was because they're talking about intention. We can only
speculate with.

Speaker 14 (01:43:13):
Right, right, And that's the problem is I think that
they bated. I think that a lot of what's going
on right now is they're baiting the right. They're baiting
the right into falling into traps of hypocrisy. You know,
for my whole the whole time I've been patriot, you know,
and involved in the patriot effort. That's all I've heard is,

(01:43:35):
you know, military shouldn't be obeying unlawful orders, unconstitutional orders.
You have an oath to oath of office, an oath
to the you swear an oath to the constitution.

Speaker 16 (01:43:47):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:43:47):
And now because it looks like, oh they're trying to
undermine Trump, we can't we can't follow you know, we
have to follow all orders without you know, in that regard,
it seems to me like, you know, all of the
all of the all of the tripes, the tropes on
the left about him being an authoritarian, they're all it's

(01:44:08):
kind of like a self fulfilling prophecy, isn't it, because
then he becomes the ultimate authoritarian because you can't question him.
According to those on the right who think that everything's
got to be followed without question, it just well it's mind.

Speaker 15 (01:44:25):
Let me remind you that most of the soldiers that
they had over in Afghanists, Dan and Iraq, they were
private sector, so you know, soldiers of fortune, and so
they're not obligated like the US military, is right.

Speaker 17 (01:44:46):
A lot of them were what they were calling private contractors, mercenaries.
There's actually there I was going to say there's actually
a word for them. It's called mercenaries.

Speaker 14 (01:44:58):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:44:59):
Yeah, hired are not hired?

Speaker 14 (01:45:03):
Okay, you're talking over each other. Our mercenaries required to
swear an oath under the Constitution. To the Constitution, I
didn't think so.

Speaker 17 (01:45:11):
No, they're not.

Speaker 15 (01:45:14):
They just work for money.

Speaker 14 (01:45:15):
They work for private companies. That's it. Yep.

Speaker 17 (01:45:19):
They're public public killers.

Speaker 14 (01:45:22):
They're they're killers for hire. Hi yep. Ah man, so
another reason for them to use, you know, I I
distinctly remember Michael Knew. I wanted to spend some time
on this because I am getting pushed back from a
lot of different areas on this subject, and I think

(01:45:42):
it's an important teachable moment. We have to be consistent
in our principles here.

Speaker 15 (01:45:48):
He should have been given amnesty. I mean he he
should be out of jail, Michael new Michael.

Speaker 14 (01:45:58):
Knew he wouldn't you follow because of his oath of office,
his oath to the Constitution, is his military oath that
he took. He would not go along with the United
Nations plan that he did not want to be an
international UN soldier, and as a result of that, they
went after him, and boy did they went after him hard.

(01:46:19):
That he has paid the price.

Speaker 15 (01:46:22):
Hill, where are his defenders? Once you look at everything
that's been going on for the last sixty years in
the right context, everything makes sense.

Speaker 14 (01:46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:46:38):
You got to get that right framework and understand what
they what they did, and what they're what they've almost
accomplished in in getting done, so it makes sense.

Speaker 14 (01:46:56):
Yeah. Uh, did you have anything else? Their art?

Speaker 23 (01:47:00):
Now?

Speaker 17 (01:47:00):
That's it. Other than I would encourage I would really
love to start hearing some new callers. Not not to
say that the callers we get already aren't very good
callers and on point, but it would be really nice
to start hearing some other perspectives, especially people that might

(01:47:20):
disagree with us.

Speaker 14 (01:47:22):
Yeah. Yeah, we certainly are willing to entertain.

Speaker 17 (01:47:26):
Nice and y'all have a great one.

Speaker 14 (01:47:27):
Yeah, thank you very much, appreciate the call. All right,
let's uh, let's go on to the next call. Hello,
you're on the air. Let's go to Kentucky. You're on
the air. Go ahead, please, Hey, the big beat covered up.
I think I'm on the air, right, yep, you're on
the air.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
Okay, So some times to remember and I want to
speak to the fact that there are trees and a
lot of places that don't belong. But some times, to remember,
we sometimes called oximorons, John bo shrimp, pretty ugly, your
security pre security is pretty ugly, and people pay for it.

(01:48:10):
But also government bookkeeping is kind of a big major
confuse the cat game contradiction in terms, but I will
argue that, you know the old joke, military intelligence is
not really as a contradiction in terms because they actually

(01:48:33):
screen out what used to be called imbeciles. They don't
allow people below a certain IQ. I think it's you know,
seventy something I Q you can't get joined the military,
too dumb, So they actually screen out the dumbest people.
Other professions don't, and I think that includes politicians, but
they call those special needs people. Now I think I

(01:48:56):
used to be called the short bust. The domestic product,
I believe is woefully underestimated, and in the vein of
that same concept, confused the cat I recently heard some
report that said welfare is one point five percent of

(01:49:17):
the gross domestic product. Well, if you go try to
look up what is the total supposed assets of the
federal government and the gross domestic product, it seems to
be some kind of a policy or a tradition. I
don't know just the way this debt fueled, debt based
economy works. Supposedly, the largest asset percentage wise, that the

(01:49:42):
federal government has is student loan debt, and that's an
asset because it represents a debt instrument income, you know,
where you're supposed to be making money off the notes.
And this is one of the things that I never
learned in economics as when I was forced to take it,
and it was just to confuse the cat situation. It

(01:50:05):
was lost in that class. But they never really pointed
this out. That the assets that a bank has includes
things like mortgages. You know, we saw that in two
thousand and nine when they did these derivatives mortgage backed securities. Right,
that the mortgage of bank holes is an asset, even

(01:50:27):
though you think, well it's a debt, well, it's somebody
else's debt, but the bank is supposedly making an income
on it, and they could sell that mortgage and that's
what they were doing. It was because of mortgage in America.
Mortgage on property in America is a primo instrument to have. Right,
So in any event, how can our official gross domestic

(01:50:50):
product be something like thirty two trillion dollars and we
have something like thirty one trillion and total assets. But
yet we have a debt of thirty five or thirty
eight trillion, whatever it is now, and welfare be one
point five percent of gross domestic product. Just do the math.

(01:51:11):
We would have to have a gross domestic product more
like ninety trillion to have welfare be one point five
percent of domestic product, which it's I think it's one
point five trillion if you had of all the social
programs together. You know, and I forget what it was.

(01:51:32):
It was during Obama that the military spending, if you
count the short term servicing of short term debt and
the military side of the budget, it surpassed a trillion dollars,
probably in two thousand and ten or nine somewhere in there.
So you know, when you're talking about government bookkeeping and
where this money goes, nobody talks about anything but the budget,

(01:51:57):
or maybe they occasionally mentioned something vaguely a rainy day fund.
Where is that kept? It's not in the budget book.
And where are assets of the pension funds? Where are
all those at? If you remember the when the dot
bomb thing blew up in the late nineties and a
bunch of people lost forty percent of therefore oe K.

(01:52:18):
You had what was it, Global Crossing b B C
c I scandal. A huge amount of the infrastructure for
fiber optics was never paid for. People got jypped in
that whole, you know, Global it was a bank for
international commerce and credit. And then you had the Kalpers.

(01:52:39):
The California pension program was all about to implode. And
then you had.

Speaker 11 (01:52:46):
Ron.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
You know, you had all these major financial scandals. All
the while what's his name, Bernie was running his Ponzi scheme. Yeah,
And if you go, you go back, you go back
a little further, you find out that, you know, and
it was reported it took a local independent newspaper to

(01:53:07):
expose this in Orange County, California. You can look it up.
There's actually a Wikipedia article about the Orange County derivative scandal.
Or they announced just and I guess they couldn't hide it.
We've lost a billion dollars in the derivatives market in
Orange County, California. That was like in nineteen ninety five. Well,

(01:53:28):
you know, those were considered a high risk investment. Then
it took another fifteen years for Obamas to be told
what was about to blow up when he was inaugurated,
and he said he wanted to jump out of a window.
There here comes, you know, the really two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine crash. Well, in the mid nineties,

(01:53:52):
you know, we had a warning shot from southern California.
In any event, this local newspaper said, well, wait a minute,
how come we have it like strung somebody up for
losing a billion dollars here in this one county in
these high risk investments. So they started looking into it,
and sure enough there was another sixteen billion. And granted,

(01:54:16):
Orange County is right next to Los Angeles, so it's
not the near the poorest county in California. But they
had one county sixteen billion dollars in investments that were
not part of the budgets. And this is offer what's
called the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. You know, they were crying, Oh,
we're gonna have to cut back on police over time.

(01:54:37):
We're gonna have to shut down fire departments, We're gonna
have to shut down swim with pulls and parks. We're sorry, folks,
but you know we're gonna have to raise taxes to governments?
Are we are being took? I don't believe. I don't
believe the total assets of government is we ever really know?

(01:54:58):
You know, Vanguard is a huge private investment firm. Nobody
knows what's behind the curtain there and that Wizard of
Oz right, and they owned the largest portion of black Rock,
Blackrock by itselfish over Ted Driggan and assets. Yeah, how
much of state? Yeah, I don't even know how much
State treated. So you get the idea. We're dealing with

(01:55:19):
these unimaginable amounts of assets and money and they want
us to focus on the budget, the budget, the budget.

Speaker 14 (01:55:25):
Yeah. Those three that you just named off own most
of the corporations, They own most of everything.

Speaker 12 (01:55:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:55:33):
Well, and Idaho's one of Idaho's legislators just did a
major report on urban renewal, the urban renewal legislation that
was passed in the nineteen sixties and what it is.
It's kind of like a privatized system with taxpayers funding

(01:55:58):
the development of businesses within these urban renewal districts. So
like here in Idaho, there's a yogurt company that was
brought in. The guy was from Turkey and he valued
the building of his facility in the billions. Okay, who

(01:56:23):
is on Okay, who's on the hooks? Or Idaho taxpayers?

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Back to the broadcast. This is Governor America our number three.
It can tendes to be the sixth of December twenty
twenty five, as we get right back into the show here,
going back to the phones. Now you just heard the numbers.
Feel free to call in Salt Lake City, Utah. You're
on the air, Go ahead, please.

Speaker 16 (02:06:14):
By Darren Vicky Tom in Utah.

Speaker 17 (02:06:16):
Right.

Speaker 16 (02:06:16):
Sorry to kind of divert from your subject. But since
the cold weather is hitting us now, I'm still concerned
about the tenth of the nation that live in manufactured
and mobile homes. It's curious flying among our barbi end listeners.

(02:06:37):
Actually a higher rate than that right now with the
weather turning cold. The family's living in the manufactured home
has made in the last forty five or fifty, almost
fifty years, they're at risk of being subtly poisoned by
their EXAUST system put in place by the federal government.

Speaker 14 (02:06:59):
Yeah, part of the depopulation scheme, wouldn't you say, Tom?

Speaker 16 (02:07:06):
Yeah? In fact, it's what's funny. The last person that
I was with in Washington, DC in two thousand eleven
twelve that Lender happened to be include Helen Patten, the
granddaughter of George Patten. She was explaining to me how

(02:07:27):
in nineteen nineteen seventy four there was a meeting at
Iron Mountain and they were working out ways to kind
of thin out the population of greeeders and eaters.

Speaker 14 (02:07:39):
You talk about the report from Iron Mountain, Uh huh, yeah, yeah,
we've covered that report many times, looking for a permanent solution,
a solution to permanent peace outside of war. Certainly doesn't
look like anything prevailed because we have nothing but war
on every front, more threat of war all the time,

(02:08:02):
and nothing destroys the population quicker than war. But certainly
poisoning people with with gases, chemicals and the like, certainly
a lot of that in our food supply too, isn't there?

Speaker 18 (02:08:15):
Tom?

Speaker 16 (02:08:17):
Yeah, I'm hoping that somebody has contact with Robert Kennedy
where they could get this information. I'm, you know, urging
people to go look at go to Gasingamerica dot com,
Gassingamerica dot com. A JA. I think, I think I
still only the redirecting domain called manufactured madness.

Speaker 14 (02:08:44):
All right, very good, Well, hopefully we can get the
message out because very very a lot of people need
to know and need to avoid buying that kind of
manufactured housing. Thank you very much for the call. Let's
move on to Sherry in Kansas. Hell you're on the air.
Go ahead, please, Hi, Daran, Vicky, Hi.

Speaker 46 (02:09:05):
Hi, this is Sherry and uh last hour just quickly,
uh because it's not what I called about. But I
don't find anything, uh with what those six congress people said.

Speaker 14 (02:09:27):
Yeah, they're so called seditious six.

Speaker 46 (02:09:30):
Yeah, because after reading Colonel Fletcher practice book one JFK
CIA Vietnam, and you know that one, I learned a
lot about Vietnam. I did not know. And there was
never an objective given to the generals who were trying
to find that fight, that war what they were actually

(02:09:54):
trying trying to accomplish over there. So we sent five
one hundred and fifty thousand men cycles through there. Fifty
eight thousand died over there. I heard Michael Gaddy say
that in this he'd learned this when he was working
with a pow mi I a thing in people in

(02:10:18):
the eighties that over one hundred thousand Vietnam veterans killed
themselves later.

Speaker 14 (02:10:28):
Oh yeah, well, I think I've told this story before.
My brother in law went over there and he came
back different, and in fact, now his wife says he
still to this day wakes up screaming in the middle
of the night, having nightmares reliving it. There was one
day that he was he went missing and they, you know,

(02:10:55):
my wife called me at work and said that he
went missing. They found him in a field. My house
is I'm surrounded by trees and there's swamp land in
the front. You know, I'm hidden back from the road.
That's the way we like it here. And but they
went looking for him. They found him in the front yard,

(02:11:20):
back in the swampy area, in the trees, and he
was crouched down and uh, he was in the front
my front yard, still fighting the war. True story. Yeah,
he had a flashback. Yeah, go ahead. Please.

Speaker 46 (02:11:37):
You know, people come back from Aghanistan and Iraq and
all these other engagements we've been in. I'm sure that
they have similar storage.

Speaker 14 (02:11:50):
Yeah. Yeah, terrifying.

Speaker 46 (02:11:53):
But it called about the U. I heard this aunt
Patrick Slattery's show, he has this guy from England on
every Monday. And he's another host on Harvey Enn. And
this is about the Muslim migrants predominantly, because the the

(02:12:19):
Mormons aren't the only ones that are polygamous. And he
said what they have over there that you know, this
guy may only have one designated wife, but he has
you know, he's the father of children of many other women.
And they're generally on the public dole. And so here

(02:12:45):
in America, if that's happening here, you know, with the
deadbeat Dad's deal, the government should be going after. I
don't care what religion you are. If that's happening here,
they should be going after. Have you heard about any
of something like this going on?

Speaker 14 (02:13:05):
You known, Well, I don't know about the polygamy thing,
but I do know that more broadly, the concentrations of
those you know, diaspora communities, they pretty much live on
their under their own rules. That was one of the
problems you mentioned the Mormons. It's kind of interesting that
was one of the problems. US government had been fighting

(02:13:27):
them for a long time because they were doing the
polygamy thing, and and they've demonstrated that they can conform,
you know, when pressured to do so. But I had
thought that. In fact, I heard George Galloway recently on
Tucker Carlson's podcast, and he was saying that it's the

(02:13:49):
Muslims that he knows that largely show up for family
values where the Christians don't, which which which I found
rather fascinating. And it's really it's it's sad to think
about Christians subjugating UH and and not fighting for what
they believe in, because it really should be the Christian

(02:14:10):
folks that stand up for family values and for traditional
UH families you know, uh we call the nuclear family.

Speaker 15 (02:14:19):
Yeah, don't forget that a lot of the churches have
been brought into the global system. As a matter of fact,
what I've been reading about most recently is the like
the World Council of Churches, because globalization not only affects business,
it's also the churches.

Speaker 14 (02:14:41):
True, yeah, very much.

Speaker 11 (02:14:42):
So.

Speaker 17 (02:14:43):
You know.

Speaker 14 (02:14:43):
The other thing, though, what money's the water. I think
as far as Islam and the Muslim thing is that
there's different sects and I mean sec t s of
of of the religion, and so I I'm not a
religious expert on all of that, but that does make

(02:15:05):
it hard to nail down exactly what all of them
believe you know, some of them are more radical than others.
And I think that one strategy of and I hate
to say it, I consider myself I'm definitely a conservative,
but I don't know if I consider myself being on
the right. That's one strategy that certain quote unquote leaders

(02:15:27):
of the right employe is lumping them all together. It's
just like a strategy with the Palestinian the anti or
the pro Palestinian protesters. They call them Hamas supporters, to
muddy the waters as to what you're actually what they're
actually supporting. So it gets complicated, I guess, is what

(02:15:50):
I'm trying to say here.

Speaker 15 (02:15:53):
Have you seen anything about the UH settlements in Texas
in the international zone when they're fundamentalist Muslims are trying
to set up like a Islamic village, you know, for

(02:16:14):
their people under Islamic law. Islam is a nation state
and a religion all combined into one. So they kind
of fall in between the cracks in our country, you know,
and they can they can hop on one side of

(02:16:35):
the law when it's convenient to them and hop on
the other side of the law when that works for them.
So that's a that's a real problem that has to
be addressed.

Speaker 14 (02:16:45):
Yeah, is this Is this a place near Dallas that
you're talking about.

Speaker 15 (02:16:49):
I'm not sure. I thought it was down farther near
the border, but I could be I could be wrong
on that. I haven't really looked into it in depth.
Other than that, I know that they defined an inland
port jurisdiction and they're setting up their Islamic community in

(02:17:11):
a port jurisdiction.

Speaker 14 (02:17:16):
There was an article some time ago, I think it
was back in April planned to build a one thousand
home Muslim city has sparked Sharia law fears, as locals
have launched a fight back at Texas Islamic organization has
rebranded its planned residential development following accusations from Governor Greg
Abbot that the project would be used to implement Sharia law.

(02:17:40):
The East Plano Islamic community, called EPIC, has dropped the
original name Epic City in favor of the Meadow. According
to the Houston Chronicle. Mister Abbot and several Republican politicians
raised concerns about whether the ambitious scheme could produce Islamic
religious law into the state. After recordings emerged of the

(02:18:02):
cleric associated with the project. You know, the thing is
is that they're what they're doing is they're concentrating these
diaspora communities together, grouping them together. I really believe this
is this could very well lead to the fragmentation of

(02:18:22):
the United States that jd Vance actually advocated for. You
know Curtis Jarvin, Curtis Jarvin who jad Vance is kind
of a disciple of in my opinion, certainly Jadie Vance
looks up to Curtis Jarvin. He advocates that for that
in his book. We shared parts of it on the show.

(02:18:44):
I believe the plan is to fragment the United States.
The plan is to break up the United States into pieces.
And you can see it happening right before your eyes
as they're bringing in more of these people from other
places around the country, and they naturally group together. And
when they overtake an area, they ultimately they get elected

(02:19:05):
to public office and they run they basically run it.
And even though it's not called an og zone, you
certainly if you go there, you feel out of place
and you certainly likely to be harassed, I'm sure at risk.

Speaker 15 (02:19:21):
Yeah, that's that's the whole thing. I mean, you know,
when you when you start understanding what this is about.
Forget the fact that there is a United States, forget
the fact that there is domestic law. We are living
under an international commercial system. And this Aslamic group that

(02:19:43):
you know is trying to build an Islamic substate you
could call it, is doing it in an international zone,
a port zone. Yeah, that puts them under international law.

Speaker 14 (02:19:59):
There you go. So we were talking earlier about COP
thirty and I wanted to come back to that conference
for just a moment because one of the things that
they wanted to see quester wasn't just CO two. They
want to seequester your freedom of speech. That was one
of the fact one of the big topics. So you're

(02:20:20):
not allowed to talk about the Islamic situation, you know,
and you're not allowed to talk about the Zionis situation,
which are interrelated. Ladies and gentlemen. And this is why
I come back to Christians really should care what's going
on with the Palestinians in the Middle East. You should
care because displaced populations are relocated. That's directly under Agenda

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twenty one. I believe it's Chapter seven. All countries, where appropriate,
should develop and implement resettlement programs to address the problem
of displaced populations in their respective countries. I did that
from memory because I've read it so many times. I've
read it so many time on the air over the years.

(02:21:02):
But that's the reality of it, and that is the
exactly war causes. There's a lot of things that cause
despot place population, but certainly genocide. When you drive them
off the land where they are, where they're located, they're
going to go somewhere they have to, and they're going
increasingly to Western countries and they're resettling there. And you know,

(02:21:25):
I'm not trying to be all, you know, garner up
fear and terror amongst the listening audience out there, But
the reality is that if people aren't made to assimilate,
if they aren't required to assimilate, they won't assimilate. They'll
bring here with their baggage. They'll come here and they'll resettle,

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and they'll hold on to all of the culture, all
of the belief system, and they will not be a
part of America, and they won't be a part of
your value system. And before you know it, you are
a minority, You are a foreigner in your own country.

Speaker 15 (02:22:06):
Well, the thing is is that they are protected.

Speaker 18 (02:22:09):
We are not.

Speaker 15 (02:22:12):
Yeah, because we're Americans and we still think we're living
under the laws of the United States and that our
elected officials are watching out for us. Nothing could be
further from the truth. It was the United States that
you know, like what I said with George Herbert Walker Bush,

(02:22:34):
I really hope that people listen to all three of
the UN speeches that were given by President George Herbert
Walker Bush. He was a traitor to our country.

Speaker 47 (02:22:48):
Absolutely, He's the one that kicked off the disassembling of
the United States as a nation state.

Speaker 25 (02:22:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:23:00):
At the COP summit, the billionaires there, as I said,
they want to see question your freedom of speech. This
is CEO of the Global Wind and Energy Council. His
name is Ben Blackwell. He was complaining that some social
media platforms might actually allow opinions or facts that don't

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agree with his narrative.

Speaker 48 (02:23:24):
We've all, you know, there's no kind of solution that's
just going to solve everything. So maybe just a few
points that I think you're important. One is, you know,
governments need to see this as a kind of public
safety issue and they need to take a stance. They
can't just be saying you know, this is just free speech.

Speaker 14 (02:23:43):
Okay, he's talking about your freedom of speech should be
curtailed on the guys, that it is a public safety issue.
Where else have we heard that from. We just got
out of the twenty twenty COVID mess and they were
making that same argument back then. Now he's making it
in terms of the climate. You know, your free speech,

(02:24:06):
You're not allowed to see what you want to say,
You're not allowed to recite facts or something that they
disagree with because it's a national secure you're putting the
nation at risk. It is a danger. Now. You can't
get much more transparent than that, that they are threatened
by what's going on on the internet today where people

(02:24:28):
can just openly speak freely without any restrictions.

Speaker 48 (02:24:33):
Safety issue, and they need to take a stance.

Speaker 11 (02:24:36):
They can't just be saying.

Speaker 12 (02:24:38):
You know, this is just free speech.

Speaker 48 (02:24:39):
You know, it's a really naive idea, and this is
not free speech.

Speaker 12 (02:24:44):
Guys, Yeah, this is not free speech.

Speaker 48 (02:24:46):
So I just want to be really clear about this.
The platforms are controlled by five or six people, and
it's about to get worse because we've got the whole
takeover of TikTok by Larry Ellison and the Murdocks and
someone which is in the pipeline. Right, So the big
platforms in the West are controlled by five or six people.

Speaker 12 (02:25:03):
This is not freedom of speech, you know.

Speaker 48 (02:25:05):
This is a control of eybles and communications by a
very consonated people. So democratizing media and bringing more media,
more reporting and human reporting back into the room is
going to be really essential.

Speaker 14 (02:25:18):
So in other words, he's not happy that the platforms
are only controlled by a few people. Well, then maybe
we need more platforms, We need more platforms with more speech.
But that's not what he's really talking about here. This
is the CEO of Client Earth.

Speaker 11 (02:25:35):
Just very quickly.

Speaker 48 (02:25:36):
So the Windows is actually uniquely he suffers uniquely from disinformation.
Firstly because we're probably the most unpopular technology for Donald Trump,
so we have a kind of endless flow of disinformation
from the president of the most powerful country in the world,
which is quite serious. And secondly, there's been organized disinformation

(02:25:59):
long before that. So then example of whale deaths in
the US, essentially AI photos are purported of Wales on
beaches in the US when we hadn't actually started doing
anything in the ocean at that point, and we won't
building anythake And actually the DOE at the time under
the Biden administration came out and said, guys, there's nothing
happening here, but it's still continued to spread. And if

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that was then copied and pasted into Australia, back to
Europe and many many places, essentially the same campaign, and
we traced that back to very organized interests, fake community groups,
repurposing from anti wind groups to save the whale groups
and so on and so on. So we're very consciously

(02:26:42):
we started working on this probably four or five years ago.

Speaker 14 (02:26:45):
Okay, I apologize for that. That was actually the same guy.
That wasn't the CEO of Client Earth. That was the
same guy talking about wind energy being subject to what
he caused this info. And you know they don't want
you telling the truth about wind energy. I think the
discinfo isn't what he needs to worry about when it
comes to win. Uh, what they fear is the truth,

(02:27:09):
Ladies and gentlemen. Our side doesn't need disinfo to win.
The truth is not on their side. All we need
to do is expose the facts about wind energy and
it ceases to be viable. Just like the cop conference,
it's not environmentally friendly. I mean lithium batteries for the wind,
the all of the turbines that they require, the fact

(02:27:33):
that they don't turn often when you know, if the
wind isn't blowing, it's not a good business decision. Lots
of people who have who have backed win as an
economic venture have backed out because it just it isn't viable.
If in fact, a lot of this green stuff, if

(02:27:54):
it weren't for the government subsidies, it wouldn't be viable
at all. Hey, we're in the brain. Let me go
ahead and take that. Remember what you're thinking, saying, VICKI,
Well we'll be back in a moment.

Speaker 23 (02:28:05):
Doctor Gary Chapman with a love language minute.

Speaker 41 (02:28:08):
But what if your spouse breaks the covenant? Are you
to abandon them or try to cover up for them?
Neither of these are biblical approaches. Jesus said that when
a spouse sins, we are to confront them, hoping they
will repent so we can forgive them. If they don't repent,
we're to try confronting again. If they ultimately refuse to repent,

(02:28:31):
we're to treat them as an unbeliever. How do you
treat unbelievers? You pray for them, You love them and
you return good for evil. Who knows when they may
repent and the relationship can be restored. God often confronted
Israel and always stood ready to forgive.

Speaker 8 (02:28:49):
Them when they repented.

Speaker 11 (02:28:50):
He is our mom.

Speaker 23 (02:28:53):
Doctor Gary Chapman is the author of the Five Love Languages.

Speaker 49 (02:28:56):
For more, visit Fivelovelanguages dot com. My friends call guys
all the time and ask them out.

Speaker 21 (02:29:03):
I mean, it doesn't seem that strange to me.

Speaker 49 (02:29:06):
If girls waited for guys to make the first move,
we'd never get together. You know, girls and women today
have been encouraged to be the aggressors in relationships with men.
So many have never been taught the beauty of God's
created order, where men are primarily responsible to initiate and
women are to respond. Proverb seven gives us a picture
of a foolish woman who entraps a young man. It

(02:29:29):
says she caught him and kissed him. It says that
she had an impudent face as she.

Speaker 29 (02:29:33):
Talked with him.

Speaker 49 (02:29:34):
Another word for impudent is shameless or brazen. This woman
throws herself on this man physically and verbally. I think
a lot of women are doing the same thing today.
They may not have immoral intent like this foolish woman,
but they're showing a lack of discretion as women. Let's
ask God to show us the beauty and peace that
come from being a responder with seeking him. I Nancy

(02:29:59):
DeMoss Woggom.

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Speaker 20 (02:30:45):
eight two five seventeen in.

Speaker 18 (02:31:06):
True true.

Speaker 26 (02:31:25):
For the restoration of our nation.

Speaker 50 (02:31:38):
Govern America, govern America, Governed America, govern.

Speaker 14 (02:32:00):
Mag Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America,
final half hour of the show. As we continue here, Vicky,
go ahead and finish up what you're going to say
right before we started.

Speaker 15 (02:32:14):
Yeah, well, I'll say a couple of things. One of
what they did was to implement a system doable energy credits.
And the way I found out about that was during
the Bundy standoff in Nevada, and as I was researching,

(02:32:35):
there was a coal fired plant on an Indian reservation
in Nevada and Warren Buffett bought it, and I couldn't
figure out why the hell would Warren Buffet buy what
is essentially a dead horse, And that's when I found

(02:32:57):
the renewable energy credits. What they did is to buy
these supposedly polluting facilities, and then the government would get
them renewable energy credits, which translated into dollars and cents.
So what they what they've done all around is to

(02:33:20):
figure out a way and implement through the laws, a
way to create public debt and private profit and it's
people that are insiders to the system. And of course
Warren Buffett, Bill Gates. There were a number of big

(02:33:43):
corporation corporate CEOs that were selling these renewable energy credits
to the government that I found.

Speaker 14 (02:33:51):
Yeah, I think it was Warren Buffett, as I recall
that I was thinking about earlier when I was talking
about people investing in so called green energy like wind
turbines and pulling out. It's not profitable.

Speaker 15 (02:34:06):
It's just not profitable, but it doesn't matter to the
big guys because they turn they get renewable energy credits
and then you and I, the taxpayers.

Speaker 14 (02:34:18):
Pay for it. Now, this so go ahead.

Speaker 15 (02:34:22):
Maybe he decided that the corruption was too much for him,
or maybe the people with pitchforks like us are getting
too close to him.

Speaker 14 (02:34:32):
Yeah, well that's why they have to keep diverting people
into little things that don't matter or that aren't going
to go any anywhere.

Speaker 15 (02:34:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 14 (02:34:41):
So I referenced the CEO of Client Earth earlier. This
is the actual clip here.

Speaker 51 (02:34:46):
Yeah, from the Climate Change Media Partnership. My question is
to peer, since you live in Spain. During the blackout
in Spain last year, we saw a flood of disinformation
against doable energy. What has your organization done about it?
And what has been the impact of whatever you have done.

Speaker 14 (02:35:06):
Thank you for your question.

Speaker 11 (02:35:07):
So two answers.

Speaker 52 (02:35:09):
The first thing is about climate adaptation and so we're
working meditania to see how we can use legal frameworks
to protect people from these extreme weather events. The second
answer is actually the report published today against Disinformation showing
that social media have the responsibility to act and to
tackle disinformation that it's not done according to the EU

(02:35:30):
Digital Service Act that is also applied in Spain. So
that's the answer in terms of legal response to adaptation,
but also to tackle disinformation through the EU Digital Service Act.

Speaker 14 (02:35:41):
I'm telling you they are going to go full tail
buggie against free speech. You can already see it coming down.

Speaker 15 (02:35:50):
Yeah, absolutely, you wanted to us.

Speaker 14 (02:35:52):
Talk about mis information and disinformation. There is just a
big controversy last about the BBC had Tim Davie resigning
over a docted footage of Trump's January sixth speech, and
there was they put out a documentary and they they

(02:36:13):
manipulated things as they do all the time, these mainstream
media characters. So there's your disinformation.

Speaker 15 (02:36:20):
Yeah, you can't trust government statistics because that's their main
method of deceiving the public. A couple dollars ago, he
was talking about the GDP. Well, the definition of GDP
that I learned is that it measures just simply economic activity.

(02:36:44):
It's not a plus or a minus. It's simply economic activity.
So when we had a mass movement of businesses out
of our country, it added to the GDP. Yeah, so
GDP is not a number to use for anything because

(02:37:05):
it's a deceptive number. Another thing, another little project that
I did was to you know, when we were having
mass layoffs of people and there were eight thousand people
applying for a Walmart job in the San Francisco area,
I decided to look at the Social Security receipts because

(02:37:29):
that is a fixed number that reports back the people
that are employed. Well, I found out that they were
fabricating those statistics. They were using projected statists, projected increases

(02:37:51):
in social Security receipts when it should have gone negative.
So you cannot trust government statistics. They're fabricated.

Speaker 14 (02:38:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 30 (02:38:05):
So the.

Speaker 14 (02:38:08):
Website built in talks about because because because the reason
why I'm pounding this free speech nail a lot today
is because right now we're seeing built up around us
this age verification scheme everywhere they want to and they
are actively moving forward with plans and laws rules that

(02:38:34):
people have to prove who they are before they access
the Internet.

Speaker 26 (02:38:39):
And the guys, how did they do that.

Speaker 15 (02:38:41):
It's with the digital ID. The digital ID is your
global ID, and they wanted to chip people and they
investigated that so that all you have to do is
wave your hand over you know, the grocery scan system
and decker from your bank account. Don't let them implement

(02:39:04):
digital ID because that will be that will be the
end of your autonomy, your freedom.

Speaker 14 (02:39:11):
Yeah. Yeah. The guys that they're doing this under is
you know, to protect children. In fact, this article, age
verification is taking over the Internet. But at what cost?
A recent Supreme Court decision has unleashed a torrent of
state level age verification laws in America, a nine, igniting
debate over whether protecting kids online should come at the

(02:39:34):
expense of privacy and free expression for adults. Now, you know,
of course, as everything is done for the children.

Speaker 29 (02:39:42):
Well, want somebody pease think of the children?

Speaker 31 (02:39:45):
No, stop, think of the children.

Speaker 14 (02:39:47):
Think of the children.

Speaker 26 (02:39:49):
Want somebody please think of the church.

Speaker 14 (02:39:52):
It's always being put forward as a solution to stop things,
you know, to protect the children. Okay, and to be fair,
I don't want the children exposed to things that they're
not supposed to be exposed to.

Speaker 15 (02:40:06):
But I don't think anybody does accept perverts, right.

Speaker 14 (02:40:11):
But the problem is, like so many other things, if
they can restrict content that they don't think are is
appropriate for children, they can restrict any content, which means
that they can censor your free speech. They can censor
sites like ours governamerica dot com or yours Vicky the
Technocratic Tyranny dot com or any other that it doesn't

(02:40:35):
fit the narrative, that doesn't go along, and that that's
what I really think it's about. I don't think they
care that much about the children really, in all actuality.

Speaker 15 (02:40:45):
I mean, I completely agree with you on that they
don't give a damn about the children. They want to
capture you.

Speaker 14 (02:40:54):
Yeah, they want to. They want to keep you from
being able to be exposed. They want to try to
stuff the genie back in the in terms of information.
Because years ago, Hillary Clinton was on TV and she
said she said it, I don't know what we can
do regulatorially, but something needs to be done the Internet,
you know. And I'm paraphrasing here, but she said the Internet.

(02:41:16):
I could probably pull up the exact quote. Maybe I
will as time progresses here. But anyway, the way they're
going to try to put the genie back in the
bottle is through I think this these age verification laws,
and like you said, VICKI digital id. Ultimately, after more
than two decades of near lawless cyberscape, regulators are finally
trying to rein in the Internet, with a particular focus

(02:41:39):
on children. Age verification laws are sweeping the United States
and beyond, aimed at curbing kids exposure to things like pornography,
violent content, and the addictive pull of algorithm driven social
media feeds. Until recently, the only federal safeguard in this
space was the nineteen ninety eight Children's Online Privacy Protection Act,

(02:42:01):
which prohibits websites and add supported platforms from collecting personal
information from children under the age of thirteen without parental consent.
Any meaningful attempts to expand these restrictions since then were
stymied by concerns over feasibility, enforcement or free speech, but
in July twenty twenty five, the Supreme Court removed those
barriers with a six to three decision noting that states

(02:42:25):
have a quote compelling interest in protecting children unquote, and
the AIDS verification requirements are quote unquote narrowly tailored enough
to do the job without impeding on adults rights. Now,
with the Supreme Court's approval, America is becoming a patchwork
of state level age verification laws, with each each with

(02:42:47):
their own protocols and boundaries. And see, here's the thing
about it, age verification. How are you going to prove
what your age really is? And there is the point
in the problem. The devil is in the details, as
they say, because can you prove is there a way

(02:43:12):
to prove that you're old enough to access whatever said
content there is to be accessed that you want to
access without proving who you are or without authenticating to
the internet. Basically a driver's license for the Internet. And
keep in mind, if they grant you access, they can

(02:43:34):
deny you access, can they not? And they certainly can control.

Speaker 15 (02:43:39):
Well if you're a troublesome person like we are.

Speaker 14 (02:43:44):
Yeah. As of September, twenty five states have enacted such laws.
They primarily target pornography sites, but often extend to social
media feeds that surface mature or violent content as well,
including NSFW for work post on platforms like Reddit or x.
They also seek to shield miners from harmful content, though

(02:44:08):
each state defines the term differently. Harmful may apply to
a material that encourages risky behavior, such as online discussions
promoting fentanyl use on Facebook or pro anarexia content on Instagram.
How are they going to determine this? Who's going to
police it? Would it be AI? I imagine it would
be because nobody can possibly police all these things, so

(02:44:30):
it's going to be rule by AI. AI is going
to determine who can access what it already is actually
in many respects.

Speaker 15 (02:44:39):
Well, and it'll be kind of like trying to get
off the tsays no fly list. Yeah, there's you get
on the list, but there's no way to get off
the list.

Speaker 17 (02:44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:44:52):
It's kind of like the Roach the Hotel California, Right,
the Roach Hotel. I'll tell you what. Let's go ahead
and take a call. This is Sam and Missouri. I'll
I'll finish this in a moment. Uh, Hello, Sam, you're
on the air. Go ahead, please, Yeah, same old game.

Speaker 25 (02:45:07):
Use the children when you want to get an agenda
pushed because why, we know, everybody's against the idea of
children seeing porn. Yeah, but the problem is when people
ask government to do something, then the government comes in
with their own agenda, which is exactly what they wanted all.

Speaker 14 (02:45:25):
Along slippery slope always.

Speaker 25 (02:45:28):
Yeah, it's exactly what it is. Yeah, I mean, without
exception and so and of course that's not going to
that's not going to stop you the child trafficking that's
going on out there. They'll still keep doing it. It's
just that it just that they want to get this
agenda through it and they'll use it. They'll use the
children to get the agenda through. But in the meantime,

(02:45:49):
nothing will really ever change. It will just it will
just they'll just make an attempt at stifling discussion. And
the very discussion that we're having here, whether it be
about child trafficking or whatever ever, could very well be
the discussion that they would not allow.

Speaker 14 (02:46:03):
Yeah. Well, you know, I'm glad you brought up the
child trafficking thing, because that's a perfect illustration. I mean,
they're so concerned about the children and yet they're covering up.
The administration in Washington, DC is covering up all of
the traffic, the trafficking that went on with regard to
Epstein and all the I guess purported billionaires. It's all

(02:46:27):
being swept under the rug. You got literally one person
in prison, and she's in prison there because she trafficked,
helped traffic children to exactly nobody. If we're to believe this,
there's nothing to see here. It's a Democrat scam. Look
the other way. Let's move on. Yeah, real concern about

(02:46:47):
the children.

Speaker 15 (02:46:48):
Oh okay, let me say something that's going to be
very offensive. Pornography, including child pornography, is a commercial activity,
isn't it.

Speaker 14 (02:47:00):
Well, it certainly can be.

Speaker 15 (02:47:02):
It's a business, yep. And so you know under the
One World there are no laws on the global level
against child pornography on.

Speaker 14 (02:47:15):
The global level. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about.

Speaker 15 (02:47:18):
That, right, right, because we don't think in those terms
of commercial activity. We you know, the majority of us,
i'd say ninety nine point nine percent of us still
think in terms of a nation state and our domestic laws. Well,
our values, our culture, our values are not global.

Speaker 14 (02:47:42):
Yeah, I'll have to look deeper into the United Nations
rights of the child, you know, because I wonder if
one of the rights of the child is the right
to be exploited.

Speaker 15 (02:47:52):
Well, that's one of the most important pieces of legislation,
because I'll tell you what they did during the Obama administration.
They came up with model legislation that all of the
states were required to pass that gives authority to the
International Court at the Hague as it pertains to child

(02:48:18):
support and custody issues. So we've got all these foreigners
in our country and the powers with the International Court
at the Hague, and our state judges have to honor
the decisions of the International Court at the Hague.

Speaker 14 (02:48:40):
Well, I don't know why they would.

Speaker 15 (02:48:42):
I mean, they do because it was put into law,
and I spent probably I don't know, maybe three months
working on that trying to figure out what the hell
is all this about. Why are they putting our state
judges under the authority of the Court of the Hague

(02:49:02):
as it pertains to child support and family family issues?

Speaker 14 (02:49:10):
So you want the judges to actually follow the law.
When has that ever happened? I'm just kidding.

Speaker 15 (02:49:17):
Yeah, I've got a whole section of my website on
that legislation. As I was trying to figure out what
in the world is going on here? Yeah, but it's
in my states, in your state, it's in every state
in the Union. And the reason why they had to
pass it at the state level is because the federal

(02:49:42):
government did not have the authority, even under international treaty authority,
to force our state judges to recognize international court decisions.

Speaker 25 (02:49:57):
Yeah, go ahead, Sam, you know, I'm just simply gonna
say this and then I'll let you guys go because
I know we're getting down near the end of the show.
But once again, I go back to one of the
core issues. Not only the collapse of the morality in
this country, which is a big part of the problem,
because we have too much of a morality problem as

(02:50:18):
it is, with so much stuff going on, you know,
in this country. But the other problem is is that
a lot of it's been spearheaded by government in the
media over the years. And I say, the only way
to solve these problems. It's a radical idea, but if
pushed enough, hopefully it'll start to take hold. In that is,
as long as they can force tax money out of

(02:50:40):
you at will, nothing will ever change, because what do
they have to fear. I mean, if you would hold
if you would hold any tax money, whether it be
income taxes or whatever, you go to jail. So what
do they have to fear regarding anything they want to do,
whether it's the way they run the public schools or whatever.
They have nothing to fear because they have everybody held

(02:51:02):
over a barrel hostage to force taxation. And until that
goes away, nothing is ever going to change. And I
don't know what it's going to take to get it
to go away, but it's got to go away first
before anything I'll ever change. Governments need to be held
accountable every bit as much as anybody else. I can't
just take go get a blank check from somebody and

(02:51:23):
expect to just do whatever I want, you know. Yeah,
but yet governments can. And it's high time the government's
quit getting away with it. And somehow, somewhere along the line,
this whole issue of forced taxation has to be called
in the question if anything's ever going to change, That's
all I got. Guys.

Speaker 14 (02:51:41):
Yeah, Hey, before you go plug your show, you got
to show on Sunday nights. Are you still doing your show?

Speaker 26 (02:51:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (02:51:48):
Yeah, we're still doing it. I'm on vacation right now. Well,
it's not really a vacation. I'm redoing my website so
I can just manage it myself. That went on to
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And a few other problems have cropped up here around
Missouri Liberty Radio, including replacing an automation computer. And so
we're taking December off all the way till the second

(02:52:09):
week of January, but we're doing best ofs and my
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of shows. So again that's m Olibertyradio dot us. My

(02:52:34):
show starts at seven pm Eastern Time on Missouri Liberty
Radio Sunday nights.

Speaker 14 (02:52:39):
All right, sounds good. Hey, thank you for the calling in,
calling in and for everything that you do. Good bad, God,
bless God, bless you. Bye bye.

Speaker 15 (02:52:47):
I have a comment on the tax issue, yeah, and
I would caution people to be to really think it
through because the proposal has been to replace the tax
with a sales tax. Well, who collects the sales tax
the very corporations that already have the power. And so

(02:53:13):
if people think that having a sales tax as a
replacement for income taxes is a good idea, I'm telling
you you got to think it through because where does
the power go if we do that? Goes to the
corporations that are already enslaving us.

Speaker 14 (02:53:33):
Yeah, And to be clear, and to be clear, that's
Sam was not advocating.

Speaker 15 (02:53:37):
That, No, No, I know he wasn't. That It was
an opportunity for me to to explain that to people
because and I'll tell you where you can look also
is the Canadian Goods and Services tax, because they've already
implemented that, and so you know they there is no

(02:54:02):
control over your government at that point.

Speaker 14 (02:54:05):
And that's one thing that they the officials that propose
these ideas, there's never they'll argue against one atrocity and
then they'll uh and then and it's kind of a
bait and switch when they try to sell you something else.
They're arguing against something that everybody finds it tremendously egregious,

(02:54:27):
and it is. But then it's and then they switch
you onto something that would be even more the next
step in the egregiousness. Uh So we always have to
be aware of the pitfalls, don't.

Speaker 15 (02:54:38):
We always always think everything through, think of the positives,
think of the negatives, and and evaluate from there. You know,
don't accept what these political whores tell you, you know,
because they're lying to you. We know that now we

(02:54:59):
know absbsolutely they have been lying to us. And the
way that they've structured the economy in this country through
all these urban renewal schemes and different schemes is for
the public to pay the costs for businesses for private profit.

Speaker 14 (02:55:20):
Yeah. Well, with that, we're going to have to go.
I will pick up the age verification thing in the
future because I think this as important. This is not
going away. This is coming at us like a monstrous
runaway train, and it's something that I think ultimately will
be used to censor free speech everywhere. Imagine having a

(02:55:44):
license for your free speech. That's what's coming, I think.
So we got to pay attention to that. But right
now we got to go. Our free speech is about
over for today at least on this broadcast, because our
times run out. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for with us.
God bless each and every one of you. Thank you,
Vicky has always appreciated everything you do, and join us

(02:56:05):
back here next week. Pray, pray for this republic, do
what you can to restore it. God bless you folks,
and we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 15 (02:56:12):
Thank you, Darren, thank you everybody.

Speaker 14 (02:56:14):
Bye bye,

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