Govern America | July 12, 2025 | Take a Fifth and Call Me In the Morning - Govern America

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
A new world order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment to season. The galeidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Us, a new world order, a world where the United
Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape is
so that the problem of the post prensidentity will be
the emergence of a new international.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
Order the first decade of the twenty first century. But
out of what is will be feared the greatest.

Speaker 7 (00:45):
Restructuring of the global economy, the greatest restructuring of the
global economy, greatest restructuring of the global economy.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
A new world order was created.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
Documenting the prices of our rebel.

Speaker 9 (00:58):
The very word secrecy repugnant in a free and open society.
And we are as a people inherently and historically opposed
to secret societies, the secret oaths and a secret proceedings.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
Waiting war on the new world order.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 10 (01:17):
We must guard again the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether
sought or unsought, by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 8 (01:27):
This is Governor America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 11 (01:41):
From PEMA Regions five ten. This is Governor America. I'm
during Weeks Vicky gave us this year as well. It
is the twelfth of July twenty twenty five nights to
have you with us once again, ladies and gentlemen. Lots
of things happening, lots of things going on this week,
as it seems to be every week, is the case,
and we're to talk about as much of it as
we can.

Speaker 12 (01:59):
Good morning, VICKI, Good morning.

Speaker 11 (02:02):
Well, well, well, what's happening in your neck of the woods.
I was just sharing with Vicky my frustrations with big
tech before the show today. I've finally given up on
installing TLS inscriptions certificates on Governor america dot com. I've
now put it behind cloud flares DNS infrastructure so that

(02:28):
I can use their free TLS certificate because.

Speaker 13 (02:34):
Well, that's that's really worth it, because the last time
I paid for a certificate, it was like seventy five dollars.

Speaker 11 (02:40):
Oh lord, you're way overpaying. Yeah, it's seventy it's ten dollars.
I can give you a link if you're interested.

Speaker 13 (02:48):
But well, I like the idea of cloud Flare.

Speaker 14 (02:51):
Maybe.

Speaker 12 (02:52):
Yeah, cloud flare is about really that's the way to go.
That's the way to go.

Speaker 11 (02:56):
Just let cloud Flare handle it, and then you can
let your certificate expire if you want, and it'll just
be uh there. With cloud Flare, your visitors won't get
the scary messages. And I did find a way to
push past that if you were interested in doing so.
I wouldn't recommend it for all sites, but if it's
your own, there's a for the chromium based browsers anyway.

(03:19):
All you have to do if because the old the
old browsers used to allow you to even though that
you've got a scary warning, you were able to push
past the scary warning and continue. I noticed the chromium
ones anyway now don't allow you to push past the
scary warning. And I'm talking about this site is unsafe,

(03:42):
even though it's really not.

Speaker 13 (03:44):
That's an extortion racket. I know that Google isn't the
Justice Department or the Federal Trade Commission, aren't they They
were investigating lawsuit against them.

Speaker 11 (04:00):
Yeah, I think they were trying to break them up.
It was I think it was the Justice Department.

Speaker 12 (04:06):
But who knows.

Speaker 11 (04:06):
With Pam BONDI, anything's possible.

Speaker 13 (04:10):
Yeah, So highly suspicious of everything that's going on there. Yeah,
you know, First we'll let me explain to you how
I see things, because I connect things that other people
don't really see, don't notice. But you know this, this

(04:32):
is just my observations. First, we had the Department of
Justice press conference talking about the fourteen billion dollar Medicare
Medicaid insurance fraud billing. You remember that I wrote an
article on it and published it last week, right well

(04:57):
as I can, and they're so to the problem is
a medical records fusion center. They didn't call it a
medical records fusion center. I don't believe, but that's really
what it is. And as I was thinking about it

(05:17):
over the week, you know, periodically I think about things,
I realized that and I said that there had been
three of those biggest Medicare Medicaid fraud lawsuits over the
past oh, i'd say twenty seven years or so, and

(05:39):
it always involves just a tremendous amount of money, very
obvious fraud. And you wonder you know, how was that
allowed to happen? Well, the second time I saw it,
it was after I had written an article about the
Texas Medicaid Algorithm Project, which was a project by the

(06:03):
pharmaceutical companies to provide medications to Medicare Medicaid patients. And
that was the beginning of medicine by body chemistry. What
the t MAP project did was to to define basically

(06:28):
personalized medications, you know, for the recipients. Well, one of
the states, and I found this out after I wrote
that article, Idaho was one of those states that was
involved in that project. And so what I have been

(06:53):
thinking is that, Okay, we have this biggest, biggest ever
fraud lawsuit that the DOJ just announced in late June.
Then we have Pam Bondi with you know, the Epstein
files and all of that controversy. Yeah, and then and

(07:18):
then Bongino and Cashel, Yeah, the other guy threatening to
resign if Pambondi doesn't resign.

Speaker 11 (07:30):
Yeah, And I saw something a little more recent that
they're not going to resign.

Speaker 12 (07:35):
I think, So, who knows how much of this is just.

Speaker 13 (07:39):
Bet Pam Bondy does. I don't know. I feel like
there's a connection between uh Pam Bondy and this biggest
ever lawsuit. And and I don't know if you remember
I talked about Carol Browner and when she was EPA director,

(08:03):
and she set up this extortion racket to extort corporations
for different projects. It's kind of a it was kind
of a deal where she would say, I'm going to
prosecute you or or I'll approve your application whatever whatever

(08:26):
it is that the corporation, whatever, she could get on them,
but she would then like pass off a third she
would she would make them pay for a third party
kind of suit or a third involve a third party

(08:48):
in settlement of whatever dispute. It was that between a
corporation and the e PA. It's kind of like a
third part paraty extortion racket. And it kind of seems
to me that the EPSTEIN files whatever is going on there,

(09:15):
plus the biggest ever insurance fraud, which is just absurd,
it kind of seems to me like that it's one
of those third party extortion rackets.

Speaker 11 (09:31):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of extortion going on
or at least blackmail.

Speaker 13 (09:37):
Well, I found another. I went down through other press
releases from the DOJ concerning this fraud, and it names
a bunch of states that were involved in state attorney
generals that brought the lawsuits. And getting to the bottom

(09:59):
line of of what all that is about is that
it seems to me like it's an off the book's
way for the states to get the money to participate
in the nationalized medical information infrastructure system without anybody asking

(10:22):
any questions because the money comes in off the books
through this third party route. Yeah, so I hope that
makes sense to everybody. It's kind of a complicated racket,
is what it is.

Speaker 11 (10:38):
Yeah, And everything seems to be a complicated racket today.
You know, we've kind of alluded to it. But earlier
this week, I think it was Tuesday, the FBI came
out with their statement that Jeffrey Epstein had no clients,
had no client list anyway, didn't blackmail anyone, and definitely

(10:59):
killed himself. And uh, it's you know, of course, that
set everybody who is was a Trump supporter, is a
Trump supporter, is moderately Republican and moderately conservative, you know,
up on a in a tizzy, understandably so, because this

(11:21):
is this whole thing is ridiculous Gallaine Maxwell sits in
prison right now for having been prosecuted for trafficking helping
to prove traffic children. Okay, and we're supposed to believe
that there were no clients. I guess it's absurd, and
maybe there wasn't a quote unquote list, but we darn't

(11:44):
sure well know that they were clients.

Speaker 13 (11:47):
Well are they clients or are they victims of extortion?

Speaker 11 (11:52):
Well, there's they're victims of blackmail and possibly extortion. But
the point is we'll never know who they are and
we'll never know what they were.

Speaker 12 (12:01):
Well, I hate to.

Speaker 11 (12:02):
Even call these people victims, because the real victims are
the children who were trafficked, the children, the people who
were actually raped, the people who were actually molested, the
people who were actually exploited, some of whom are not
even alive anymore. But uh, you know, Trump and BONDI

(12:24):
were asked about this memo that they released.

Speaker 12 (12:29):
Earlier this week, and I want to play this clip.

Speaker 11 (12:32):
I know people have heard it, many of have heard
it before, but I think this is important because this
clip alone, without any other evidence, the way the Trump
and Bondy handled this was about as poor as it
possibly can be. Yeah, I mean, you know, pretty.

Speaker 13 (12:51):
Well, I suspect that that was intentional, so that Pam
BONDI would have an excuse to maybe because after this
big payoff with the Medicaid money, her job is done well.

Speaker 12 (13:09):
She doesn't seem to care, you know.

Speaker 11 (13:11):
And and frankly, let's face it, she's fumbled everything as
much as she possibly can.

Speaker 12 (13:17):
I think.

Speaker 13 (13:18):
But yeah, I think that was on purpose, I honest,
God do, because she's a she's a smart lady.

Speaker 12 (13:27):
Yes she is. She is a smart lady.

Speaker 11 (13:30):
But boy, listening to this clip, you sure wouldn't be
able to tell it. And then Trump, here's the thing.
Trump runs interference the reporters asking the question. First of all,
they they released the video of the prison cell, which
isn't even the prison cell, it's a hallway. And somebody
did a very good, uh takedown of the the whole

(13:54):
What what this video is showing and what it's not.
I'll put that in the show notes. They spend a
lot of time dissecting what this video is showing and
what it isn't based upon the floor plan of the prison,
based upon things that are in the video that you
can see and you can correlate to other there were

(14:15):
other cameras pointing in other directions that would give you
a better shot at seeing inside of Jeffrey Epstein's cell,
Why weren't those used? And we know that the cameras
failed to record at the time that this whole thing
was supposedly going down conveniently. Yeah, exactly, So, I mean,

(14:41):
this whole thing is so ridiculous that that this wasn't
you know, and was Epstein really killed? You know, I
don't have the answers to all of that, But if
he was killed, I'm pretty sure he didn't commit suicide.
But we don't know, and we're not See, this is
the point we're left to speculate amongst ourselves because we

(15:03):
don't have an administration, regardless of which administration is in office,
that will.

Speaker 12 (15:08):
Tell the truth about any of this. Well, if he
was running I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (15:14):
If he was running an extortion racket, like I think
he was, then well, and I've been sure all along
that somebody did murder him. Yeah, it just doesn't sound
good to be murdered in a prison.

Speaker 11 (15:31):
Yeah, they put on a video. It's hard to explain
just setting up this clip. They put on a video
which was missing one minute okay, and I think that
this is a red airing, this one minute that's missing
from the video. It kind of harkens back. It reminds
me of this the Nixon administration when it was like,
what was it like an eighteen minute gap?

Speaker 13 (15:51):
Eighteen minutes?

Speaker 11 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So this is a one minute gap
going to get enough attention, And I think you're supposed
to focus on the minute it and overlooked the fact
that they could have shown a different angle and it
would have been a lot better anyway. But everybody's going
to zero in on, oh, what could possibly have happened
in that one minute for.

Speaker 15 (16:11):
Sure, And your memo and release yesterday Jeffrey Epstein lefts
some leadering mysteries of One of the biggest ones is
whether he ever worked for an American foreign intelligence agency.
The former Labor Secretary, who is Miami US attorney Alex Acosta,
he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.

(16:34):
So could you resolve whether or not he did, and
also could you say why there was a minute missing
from the jailhouse tape on.

Speaker 12 (16:40):
The night of the step. Okay, here's we're still talking
about Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 16 (16:46):
This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we
have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things,
and are people still talking about this guy this creaty.

Speaker 11 (16:57):
Yes, yes, mister Trump, because we haven't had any answer.
There are a lot of victims that were harmed and
nobody's got any justice.

Speaker 12 (17:05):
We don't even know.

Speaker 13 (17:07):
A lot of very important people involved, including one of
those princes over in the.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
Yeah, Prince Andrew exactly.

Speaker 11 (17:17):
So, yes, we're still talking about And guess what, We're
not gonna quit talking about it. We're gonna talk about
this forever. It's never going away, just like nine to
eleven is never going away, just like so many other
things are never going away because you people aren't providing
any answers. You people who have the ability to investigate

(17:38):
and get to the bottom of it, and yet for
some reason, this is obviously a very clear cover up.
I mean it's not even you know, I was thinking
this morning, VICKI as much money as we're charged for
taxes in this country and we can't even get good
cover ups. You know, they can't do any better than this.

(18:00):
I mean you talk about I mean they're phoning it in.

Speaker 13 (18:03):
I have to admit that my respect for our leaders
and government has declined to barely above zero. I mean,
they're a bunch of idiots.

Speaker 12 (18:14):
They don't feel they don't have to try. They don't
have to try, and nobody's going to hold them accountable.

Speaker 16 (18:19):
That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time?
And do you feel like answered?

Speaker 17 (18:24):
I don't mind answering.

Speaker 16 (18:25):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question at
Epstein at a time like this where we're having some
of the greatest success and also tragedy.

Speaker 11 (18:34):
Isn't it interesting? Doesn't doesn't trump Duff protest too much?
I mean, why are you getting so defensive there, buddy?

Speaker 17 (18:42):
With what happened in Texas?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead, sure?

Speaker 17 (18:48):
Sure.

Speaker 18 (18:48):
First to back up on that, in February, I did
an interview on Fox and it's been getting a lot
of attention because I said I was asked a question
about the client list and my fonts was was it's
sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file
along with the JFK MLK files as well.

Speaker 11 (19:12):
Okay, let's hear exactly what she's talking about, because it
hasn't really aged very.

Speaker 14 (19:17):
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 12 (19:21):
Will that really happen?

Speaker 18 (19:22):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

Speaker 11 (19:26):
She said she didn't say the file there. She said
he asked specifically about the list of clients, and she said,
it's sitting on my desk.

Speaker 14 (19:37):
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 12 (19:41):
Will that really happen.

Speaker 18 (19:43):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump.

Speaker 12 (19:48):
I'm okay, now back to the press conference here.

Speaker 19 (19:51):
I just that's what I meant by that.

Speaker 18 (19:53):
Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned
out to be child born downloaded by that disgusting jeff
for Epstein, child porn is what they were never going
to be released, never going to see the light of day.

Speaker 11 (20:05):
Okay, let's stop it there. I want to jump over
to uh, let's see this is.

Speaker 12 (20:12):
I think it's Virginia Farmer. You remember her particularly, no, Okay, yeah,
Virginia Farmer. She was a victim of Epstein. Okay.

Speaker 11 (20:26):
She started off being recruited I think by Gallaine Maxwell.
Like most of these victims, and the FBI doesn't want
to talk to any of the victims apparently. But CBS
This Morning back in twenty nineteen interviewed this Virginia Farmer, and.

Speaker 12 (20:43):
She talks about how.

Speaker 11 (20:46):
The whole inside Jeffrey Epstein's place, there were cameras everywhere. Okay,
so because because Bondi is saying that all they had
was reams and reams of video of child porn, but
Virginia Farmer says there was a lot of video.

Speaker 12 (21:03):
That was just people inside the place.

Speaker 20 (21:05):
One of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers, who said she had an
inside view of his world, is giving us disturbing new
details of what happened. Maria Farmer was a young artist
in the nineteen nineties when she met Epstein. She and
her younger sister Annie claim Epstein sexually assaulted them, and
Farmer is now suing Epstein estate over the alleged incident.

(21:26):
Farmer was a promising young artist when she says she
met Epstein and Maxwell at an art show in New
York City in nineteen ninety five. Epstein bought this painting
of hers that night, and she says eventually offered her
a job. The twenty six year old soon found herself
working the front desk in his palatial New York City townhouse.

(21:48):
Did you see young women coming into the house?

Speaker 21 (21:50):
Yes, I saw many, many, many, many many all day long,
All day long, I saw Geelan going to get the women.
She went to places like Central Park. I was with
her a couple times in the car. She would say
stop the car and she would dash out and get
a child.

Speaker 22 (22:08):
What did she say she was doing when she did this?

Speaker 23 (22:10):
Getting Victoria's secret models.

Speaker 20 (22:12):
Farmer found Epstein's behavior mysterious.

Speaker 23 (22:15):
One day, I said to Jeffrey what goes on in
this house?

Speaker 8 (22:18):
Like?

Speaker 21 (22:18):
Why are you always upstairs? And he said, I'll show you.
And so he took me up there in the elevator
and we went. He showed me all of Geeland's quarters.

Speaker 22 (22:27):
She had her own suite in the house.

Speaker 23 (22:28):
Oh, she had a whole floor.

Speaker 20 (22:29):
Ultimately, Farmer says, Epstein led her to his bathroom.

Speaker 21 (22:34):
And there's a marble like alter thing over here, and
he said that's where he gets his massages.

Speaker 20 (22:39):
Epstein told her the whole house was wired with pinhole
cameras and took her into the media room where they
were monitored.

Speaker 21 (22:47):
I looked on the cameras, and I saw toilet, toilet bed, bed,
toilet bed. I am never going to use the restroom here,
and I'm never going to sleep here.

Speaker 22 (22:56):
Was there video tape?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (22:58):
It was all video all the time.

Speaker 11 (22:59):
Yeah, okay, So you want to tell me the FBI
doesn't have any of that.

Speaker 12 (23:03):
Nothing.

Speaker 11 (23:05):
They got this guy, They arrested this guy, took him
away from his island, took him away from what you know,
They undoubtedly searched all his places.

Speaker 12 (23:15):
You want to tell me.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
None of this video exists anymore. All they have is
just child porn from this creep small acts in the
chat room posts. It was reported that the Department of
Justice was in possession of fourteen terabytes of audio video
of child rape that was recorded at the Jeffrey Epstein properties.

(23:37):
The positive identification of the adults in the videos raping
the children is the client list. Maybe they could, I
think he means, used Pallenteer's facial recognition artificial intelligence software
to screen the fourteen terabytes and begin the process of
creating the list and beginning the indictment and prosecution process. Well,

(23:58):
I don't even think they'd have to do that. I
don't think they'd have to use pallanteer. I think that
many of these people they would recognize. Many of these
people they would know if these weren't high profile individuals
who are very well known, otherwise, you know, there wouldn't
be any need for a cover up. Small town criminals
go to prison all the time.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
And also apparently he was a very well known person
in elite circles in New York, So so it would
have been the elite of New York that were at
his facilities.

Speaker 12 (24:35):
Right, Oh, absolutely, so finishing this up an agent?

Speaker 17 (24:41):
I have no knowledge about that.

Speaker 18 (24:42):
We can get back to you on that.

Speaker 11 (24:47):
That's funny. Oh is he an agent? Well, we don't know.
We haven't looked into that either.

Speaker 12 (24:54):
Yeah, that's that's a yes. By the way, that's a
that's an admission that he was.

Speaker 13 (25:01):
Something that I think is interesting is that he also
had a ranch in New Mexico.

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Right, I'm not, I guess I don't epstein.

Speaker 13 (25:16):
I think he did, and but but nobody ever talks
about that. And what's in New Mexico that would be
of interest, Well, sent was Sandia Labs. And also the.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
Yes, he did have he did have a ranch in
New Mexico, known as Zoro Ranch.

Speaker 12 (25:43):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 13 (25:44):
It was things about having these cameras everywhere. During the eighties,
the United States built a new embassy over in Russia
and they hired local contractors to build it. Well, they

(26:06):
found out after they moved in that it was loaded
with cameras also, so they had to tear the new
embassy down and build a new one with American contractors
to make sure that it wasn't pre bugged.

Speaker 12 (26:23):
Yeah, jeez, well, I'll tell you what. We're at the
bottom of the hour already.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
Let's go ahead and take bottom of the hour break
and then we'll come back and finish up this clip.
And I think I might have a few more things
on Epstein and then we'll move on to other things.
Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen. We're just getting started.
This is Governor America and we'll continue here in.

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Speaker 23 (31:23):
And I asked him one time, what do you do
with this?

Speaker 21 (31:24):
And he said, I keep it, keep everything in my safe.

Speaker 20 (31:27):
In the summer of nineteen ninety six, Farmer says Epstein
sent her to be an artist in residence on the
vast estate of Les Wexner, the CEO of L Brands,
which owns Victoria's Secret. How would you describe Epstein's relationship
with Wexner?

Speaker 21 (31:44):
Epstein told me what their relationship was. He said Wexner
would do anything for him. He bragged about it.

Speaker 20 (31:49):
The estate, she says, was heavily guarded by armed security
and dogs. She stayed and what she was told was
the guest house. Did you ever see him?

Speaker 24 (31:59):
No.

Speaker 23 (31:59):
I called Wexner the Wizard of Oz. He was the
one behind the curtain.

Speaker 20 (32:03):
To out all the power on the night. This photograph
was taken by Maxwell. Farmer alleges in her complaint that
Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted her.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
There.

Speaker 22 (32:13):
How are you doing at that moment?

Speaker 12 (32:15):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (32:15):
I was hysterical.

Speaker 20 (32:16):
Farmer alleges in her complaint that when she tried to
flee the following day, she was not allowed to leave.
She claims a member of Wexner's staff warned her.

Speaker 23 (32:27):
His exact words were, You're not going anywhere. You are
never leaving. You are never leaving.

Speaker 20 (32:34):
Farmer says she escaped only after calling her father for help.
In a statement, the Wexner said they had no knowledge
of Farmer, never met her, never spoke with her, and
the guest house where Farmer says she stayed was not
a Wexner guest house. Farmer alleges Maxwell threatened to destroy

(32:55):
her reputation in the art world, and in one phone
call she believes threatened her life.

Speaker 23 (33:00):
She says, you're going.

Speaker 21 (33:02):
Out to jog on the West Side Highway every day,
and I know this. You need to be very careful
because there's so many ways to diither. She had to
be really careful, look over your shoulder.

Speaker 20 (33:10):
Farmer says she reported the assault to the FBI, but
she told us it wasn't for another decade. Just before
Epstein's first arrest in two thousand and six that an
agent finally appeared at her door. Farmer says they never
followed up.

Speaker 23 (33:26):
They still haven't asked to talk to me.

Speaker 21 (33:28):
They are trying to pretend I do not exist.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
That's right.

Speaker 21 (33:32):
I want my report and I want it printed out
so I can show everyone how much they failed.

Speaker 11 (33:39):
No, they didn't fail. They deliberately chose not to. This
is a cover up, and I hope that woman doesn't
suffer the same fate that Virginia Geffrey did. Now, of course,
Virginia Jeuffrey supposedly committed suicide, but that was after an accident,

(33:59):
and I don't know what the details are of the accident,
how exactly that whole thing went down. But I just
found it very interesting how that happened. Suddenly she lost
the will to live, and maybe she really did commit suicide.

Speaker 12 (34:12):
Maybe Jeffrey Epstein really did commit suicide. But I yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (34:19):
Suicide didn't make sense to me.

Speaker 11 (34:22):
Not off it makes sense, you know, And now we're
supposed to believe that, you know, case clothes. We still
don't know where anybody who is Who are the perpetrators.
We don't have any there's no evidence anywhere of any
any wrong. Yet we have all these victims, all these
children who have been trafficked, We have one person sitting
in prison on on these charges of trafficking children children,

(34:48):
and yet no nobody who was patronizing all of this,
all the people that have been in the island, all
of the people who have flown on the Lolita Express,
you know, thousands of vicctims. This is from the FBI statement.
Consistent with prior disclosures, this review confirmed that Epstein harmed
over one thousand victims. Each suffered unique trauma. Sensitive information

(35:15):
relating to these victims is intertwined throughout the materials. This
includes specific details such as victim names and likenesses, physical descriptions,
places of birth, associates, and employment history.

Speaker 29 (35:28):
You know.

Speaker 11 (35:28):
And here's the thing. After his initial arrest, weren't the
charges dropped. He was still let out.

Speaker 13 (35:34):
Yes, they that was the case in Florida, right.

Speaker 12 (35:39):
I think so, yeah, yeah, they yeah, exactly.

Speaker 13 (35:43):
And that prosecutor has talked about that. I don't know
the prosecutor's name, but he was basically ordered to shut
it down.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
Yeah, why why is that? Why was he ordered to
shut it down? But yet there's nothing to see here.

Speaker 18 (36:01):
I have no knowledge about that. We can get back
to you on that. And the minute missing from the video.
We released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive,
but the.

Speaker 11 (36:16):
Talking about the visit video on the prison cell, which
isn't really even pointing out his prison cell.

Speaker 18 (36:21):
FETs prior to it, was showing he committed suicide. And
what was on that there was a minute that was
off the counter, and what we learned from Bureau of
Prisons was every year or every.

Speaker 11 (36:32):
Okay, this is good. Listen to this. This is a
really crappy explanation. There was a minute missing from the video.
Now I think, you know, again, this could very well
be because they want you to focus on the minute.
You know, it's a distraction, it's a red airing. But
she explains why the minute was missing off the prison video,

(36:57):
and it turns out, oh, it just so happens. The
cameras weren't why two K compliant, Vicky, Oh really, that's
what she's describing here, And what was.

Speaker 18 (37:07):
On that There was a minute that was off the counter,
And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year,
every night they redo that video as old from like
nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 17 (37:18):
So every night the video is reset.

Speaker 11 (37:21):
Okay, every night the video is reset because it's not
why two K compliant. Now, she started to say every year. Notice,
she caught herself and said, they reset it every night. Now,
if you're going to reset, assuming that you even need
the video to maybe it really isn't why two K compliant.

Speaker 12 (37:39):
You know, well it's quit working. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (37:41):
I don't know enough about their camera system there, but
I can tell you from my own experience with systems
that are not why two K compliant. We used to
have them in television back in the late nineties, certain
automation systems that weren't White UK compliant. We didn't reset

(38:02):
them every night. We reset them by several years. In fact,
we used to joke every now and then it's nineteen
ninety five again, we just kept resetting them. Why would
you reset them every night and at the same time,
directly at midnight. This makes no sense whatsoever. This makes

(38:24):
This is the most lame excuse for a missing video
or a missing portion of the video.

Speaker 12 (38:30):
Missing minute, Yeah, a missing.

Speaker 11 (38:32):
Minute because it wasn't y two K compliant and.

Speaker 18 (38:35):
Every night should help the same minute missing, So we're
looking for that video to release that as well, showing
that a minute is missing every night, and that's it.

Speaker 12 (38:43):
On outside, that's it, that's all. There is nothing to
see here.

Speaker 11 (38:47):
Everything is wrapped up in a nice tidy bow, although
it's really not that tidy at all, is it?

Speaker 22 (38:52):
Oh huh?

Speaker 13 (38:54):
You know, I thought of a good name for the
uh racket that I was describing that is going on.
If what it is is third party extortion beneficiaries okay,
meaning that there is extortion, but the payoff is not

(39:19):
to the person who's doing the extortion. It's to somebody else.
So it's it's a third party extortion racket.

Speaker 11 (39:32):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a I don't know what to
say about that, but I do know that the metadata
on the video they because she's passing this off as
raw video, and raw video would be coming directly from

(39:52):
the prison system camera system, right yet this video has
been edited and it's been proven to be edited by
you know, it was. I'm very familiar as it as
a TV guy with Adobe Premiere Pro. It is a
standard in many industries of telecommunications, with whether it's TV

(40:16):
or film or corporate video. Adobe Premiere pro is widely used.
It's just like Final cut pro. You know, these are
standard software, you know, things that are used regularly in
these industries that use professional editing. Okay, and Wired came

(40:39):
out with an article. The United States Department of Justice
this week released nearly eleven hours of what it described
in as full raw and those are in quotes full
raw surveillance footage from a camera position near Jeffrey Epstein's
prison cell the night before he was found dead. The
release was intended to address conspiracy theories about Epstein's apparent

(41:03):
suicide in federal custody, but instead of putting those suspicions
to rest, it may fuel them further. And it goes
on to talk about how the video was was the
The metadata on the video demonstrates that it was.

Speaker 12 (41:26):
Edited an Adobe Premiere Pro.

Speaker 13 (41:32):
Huh, well, that's an inconsistency, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (41:38):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I had thought I had the whole
article here, but apparently not. Hang on, I could got
to get past their stupid paywall. So you folks just
talk amongst yourselves while I'm uh, okay, here.

Speaker 13 (41:55):
Get a cup of coffee?

Speaker 12 (41:57):
Yes, well, yeah, absolutely, you should have that anyway.

Speaker 11 (42:00):
But anyway, metadata was embedded in the video and analyzed
by Wired and independent video forensics experts, showing that rather
than being a direct export from the prison's surveillance system,
the footage was modified, likely using the professional editing tool
Adobe Premiere pro. The file appears to have been assembled

(42:21):
from at least to two source clips, saved multiple times, exported,
and then uploaded to the Department of Justice's website, where
it was presented as raw footage. Experts caution that it's
unclear what exactly was changed, and that the metadata does not.

Speaker 12 (42:40):
Prove deception manipulation.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
The video may have simply been processed for public release
using available software with no modifications beyond stitching together two clips,
but the absence of a clear explanation the fact that
they're passing it off as raw. The absence of a
clear explanation for the process of the file using professional
editing software complicates the Justice Department's narrative in a case

(43:06):
already clouded by suspicion. The ambiguity so surrounding how the
file was processed is likely to provide fresh fodder for
conspiracy theories.

Speaker 13 (43:17):
Any aspect of the well they always have a solution
for that they just redefine the words. It's kind of hard,
something different than you've always known it.

Speaker 11 (43:29):
To me, anybody who works sorry, anybody who works in
the industry, any video industry, any any industry dealing with video.

Speaker 12 (43:40):
You know what raw means. It means uncut, well, unedited.
It's raw.

Speaker 11 (43:46):
It's shot in the field or in this case, in
the prison system, and you're taking it and you're not
doing anything with it.

Speaker 12 (43:54):
And once you do.

Speaker 11 (43:55):
Something with it, it's no longer raw. It's just like
your food in the kitchen. Once you throw it in
the pan, throw it in some grease, it's no longer
raw anymore.

Speaker 13 (44:06):
Yeah, you're talking about you're talking about the real world.
Officials in our country have created a virtual reality where
words like raw can be redefined.

Speaker 11 (44:20):
Well, I'm not gonna let it be redefined. Raw means raw.

Speaker 12 (44:23):
It's untouched, unfiltered, unchanged.

Speaker 13 (44:27):
Okay, So you're going to be stubborn about that's right.

Speaker 12 (44:30):
I'm sticking to it.

Speaker 11 (44:32):
So, yeah, I mean, and then they go on in
this article about the about the different things in the metadata.
They actually post the actual metadata in there, but they
said the embedded data suggest a video is not a
continuous unaltered export from the surveillance system, but a composite
as symbol from at least two separate MP four files.

(44:53):
The metadata includes references to a Premiere product, to Premiere
project files, and two SPECI source clips DASH twenty twenty five,
DASH zero five DASH twenty.

Speaker 12 (45:04):
Twenty, I'm sorry twenty two. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 11 (45:07):
It's an MP four file with and they have another
separate MP four file with numbers. These entries appear under
a metadata section labeled ingredients, part of Adobe's internal schema
for tracking source material used in editing exports. The metadata

(45:28):
does not make clear where in the video the two
clips were spliced together. Hany Farid, a professor at UC
Berkeley whose research focuses on digital forensics and misinformation, reviewed
the metadata at Wired's request. Farid is a recognized expert
in the analysis of digital images and the detection of

(45:51):
manipulated media, including deep fakes. He has testified in numerous
court cases involving digital evidence. He says the metadata raises
immediate concerns about chain of custody, the documented handling of
digital evidence from collection to presentation in a courtroom. Just
like physical evidence, he explains, digital evidence must be handled

(46:13):
in a way that preserves its integrity. Metadata, while not
always precise, can provide important clues about whether that integrity
has been compromised.

Speaker 12 (46:22):
Quote.

Speaker 11 (46:22):
If a lawyer brought me this file and asked me
if it was suitable for court, I would say no,
go back to the source. Do it right, Do a
direct export from the original system.

Speaker 12 (46:34):
No, monkey business. Unquote that's what he said.

Speaker 11 (46:38):
Cread points to another anomaly. The videos aspect ratio shifts
noticeably at several points. Why am I suddenly seeing a
different aspect ratio?

Speaker 12 (46:49):
He asks?

Speaker 11 (46:50):
Created cautions that the metadata clearly shows that the video
was modified. The changes could be benign, for example, converting
footage from a proprietary surveillance format to a standard MP four.

Speaker 29 (47:05):
Well.

Speaker 11 (47:05):
There may be uncontroversial explanations for the metadata artifacts, such
as stitching together multiple days of footage during compilation, Well,
this thing was only ten hours, Or the routine export
of surveillance footage to an MP four format, or maybe
editing out a minute of the video because the wrong
person wrote walk into the shot.

Speaker 14 (47:27):
Ah.

Speaker 11 (47:28):
The FBI did not respond to specific questions about the
files processing, instead referring wired to the DOJ. The DOJ
in turn, referred inquiries back to the FBI and the
Bureau of Prisons. The Goop did not respond to a
request for comment because why they don't have to.

Speaker 13 (47:46):
Well, that's very interesting. They're pointing at each other.

Speaker 11 (47:51):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't me dog ate my homework. So
it's a pretty big article. I'll leave that in the
show notes. But you know, if they want to put
to bed all of the quote unquote conspiracy theories about this,
they've done a pretty terrible job, haven't they.

Speaker 13 (48:11):
I would say so.

Speaker 11 (48:13):
And the point is, we don't need a client list.
We have the actual clients. There are clients. And if
they would look on the videos that they undoubtedly seized
from the Epstein properties because these things were recording and apparently,

(48:34):
according to Farmer, he was saving everything into a safe,
so presumably the federal government has that stuff somewhere. Why
don't we have We don't need a list, We got
the clients. Why aren't they putting out who the clients are.

(48:56):
Why aren't they investigating the clients? Why hasn't one person
besides Glaine Maxwell been arrested?

Speaker 12 (49:07):
And Trump is going to save.

Speaker 11 (49:08):
The day by making this happen it's that was the promise,
wasn't it. I mean everybody's you know, here's Alena Habit.
She said the client list existed also, So not only
was it Pam Bondi that said that, oh, it's on

(49:28):
my desk, but Alena Haba, who is the acting US
Attorney for the District of New Jersey and a counselor
to President Trump. She was on with Piers Morgan this
past February.

Speaker 30 (49:41):
But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing.
We have flight logs, we have information, names that will
come out.

Speaker 22 (49:50):
Is it going to be shocking?

Speaker 17 (49:51):
I don't see how it's.

Speaker 30 (49:52):
Not shocking that there were so many individuals that were
hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable. Let's
talk about the reverse. I believe in accountability, So you
have to now go through your process. Now I won't
say they're guilty until they go through their time in court.

(50:13):
But again, now it's time for accountability. We have seen
for so many years, Piers in this country, many investigations,
subpoena's testimonies in Congress, et cetera, et cetera. But there's
a general frustration with accountability. We take it halfway.

Speaker 19 (50:26):
We don't take it home.

Speaker 30 (50:27):
And I really believe that now with cash and PAM
there will be accountability.

Speaker 12 (50:31):
That didn't age well, did it.

Speaker 13 (50:33):
Yeah, that's kind of interesting. She was in New Jersey.
I wonder if she knew or worked with the guy
who became head of home scam security after well, the
first head of home scam security was that governor from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 12 (50:56):
Was it wasn't churn Off churned Off?

Speaker 13 (50:58):
Yeah, chured Off Tue. Okay, that's the guy that I'm
thinking by one, Michael Chrudoff was working in the office
at the same time that Chertoff was working in there.
I don't know, I have to find to find that out.

Speaker 12 (51:11):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 11 (51:12):
Well, remember ABC News anchor Amy Roeback. Remember she was
caught in the hot mic moment, and this was something
that she you know, here's the thing.

Speaker 12 (51:24):
If there is.

Speaker 11 (51:25):
Nothing, if there was nothing to any of this, nothing
to worry about, nothing to see here, why would they
spike her story? Why would they Why would this be
a big deal? Why would the palace where Prince Andrew was,
the Royal Palace put pressure on the network to spike
this story?

Speaker 31 (51:44):
And then and then Alan.

Speaker 32 (51:46):
Derschwitz was also implicated it because of the planes.

Speaker 31 (51:49):
She told me everything, she had pictures, she had everything.

Speaker 17 (51:52):
She was in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her
to come out.

Speaker 11 (51:54):
I think she's talking about Virginia Jeffrey, who is now
the late Virginia Jeffrey and Vincer.

Speaker 23 (52:00):
To talk to us.

Speaker 31 (52:02):
It was unbelievable what we had Clinton, We had everything.

Speaker 17 (52:07):
I tried for three years to get it on to.

Speaker 32 (52:10):
No avail, and now it's all coming out and it's
like these new relevant revelations and I freaking had all
of it. I'm so pissed right now, Like every day,
I get more and more pissed because I'm.

Speaker 31 (52:20):
Just like, oh my god, we it was. What we
had was unreal. Other women backing it up.

Speaker 17 (52:27):
Hey yep.

Speaker 31 (52:29):
Brad Edwards, the attorney three years ago, saying like like
we there will come a day, but we will realize
Jeffrey Epstein was the most prolific pedophile this country has
ever known.

Speaker 17 (52:39):
I had it all three years ago.

Speaker 13 (52:41):
But the creepy thing is that we would making access
to all of these Are you going to put the
source and this one?

Speaker 12 (52:49):
Yeah, I'll put everything in the show notes.

Speaker 13 (52:51):
Yeah, excellent, because I have to hear that whole.

Speaker 11 (52:55):
Thing at Governamerica dot com. Yeah, that was released by
Project Veritas. There's a little bit more to this.

Speaker 31 (53:00):
Well, then I got a little concerned about why I
couldn't get on. There are a lot of men in
those planes, a lot of men who visited that island,
a lot of powerful men who came into that apartment.

Speaker 12 (53:10):
And we're not allowed to know who any of them are.

Speaker 11 (53:14):
Ta's closed. Nothing to see here, lots of victims. It's
like boys Town all over again.

Speaker 13 (53:23):
Yeah, it kind of is, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (53:25):
Let's go to the phones.

Speaker 11 (53:26):
Let's go to Georgia and take a call. Hello, you're
on the air. Go ahead, please, no, Darren.

Speaker 14 (53:33):
It's it's interesting you mentioned Boystown because I was thinking
the exact same thing. I mean, because that's that's what
this reminds. This whole thing reminds me of this. And
you know, I got a couple different points here. First
of all, on the video, I've been telling people the
video was edited, and they always get the same question, well,

(53:54):
how do you know, Well, if you look at the
video where that one minute is me, If you look
in the upper right hand, if you look in the
upper right hand corner of the screen. You can clearly
see it's in edit mode. It's clear as day that
the video is in edit mode at that very moment.

(54:18):
That's how you know it's been edited, because it's clear
you can see it on the screen.

Speaker 11 (54:25):
Yeah, I didn't see that. I didn't look for it.
Let me get let me get back to it.

Speaker 14 (54:30):
That was the first thing I saw.

Speaker 12 (54:31):
Okay, that was the first thing I saw.

Speaker 14 (54:34):
I was like, well, that's odd. And then right after
that there's the press conference or not that's the press conference,
but the cabinet meeting where they're taught where Trump ran interference.
When Bondi was asked about this, and she came up
with the excuse that, oh it it rolls over every night,

(54:59):
so minute every night, and that's BS. And I know
it's BS because every state in the country has regulations
that all jails and prisons must maintain video records for
a specified amount of time just in case something happens.

(55:22):
So there's no way that they could roll this over
every night. Not gonna happen. It's a violation of state
regulations in every single state.

Speaker 12 (55:35):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 11 (55:36):
But you know one thing that this Missing Minute did
give rise to a number of different humorous memes on
the social media. For instance, one of them has Hillary
Clinton going inside. They said, I found the Missing Minute
and it has Hillary Clinton going in.

Speaker 12 (55:54):
And yeah.

Speaker 11 (55:55):
There's another one I saw which has Jeffrey Epstein slipping
out and down the street getting in the car, get
away car.

Speaker 14 (56:05):
It's funny. I hear the music. But if you can.

Speaker 12 (56:07):
Hold me over, yeah, yeah, I can. All right, let's
let's do that. Top of the hour.

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Speaker 11 (01:05:11):
It is the twelfth of July twenty twenty five. As
we get right back into it talking about the Jeffrey
Epstein Debaco, the cover up at the federal level, and
I wanted to expand upon real quickly here before we
get back to art.

Speaker 12 (01:05:26):
In Georgia, the Gateway.

Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
Pun It published an article I mentioned this I alluded
to this earlier. The headline was and this was a
report from Jason Sullivan. Pam Bondi's Department of Justice released
a video they claimed proved Epstein killed himself. This report
proves it doesn't. And what Jason has done here actually

(01:05:49):
this was actually posted by Jason, but it was actually
from the source was unleashed dot News, a special report
by Unleashed dot News that was published in the Gateway Pundit.
What they did, and they say what follows is a
forensic analysis and detailed inspection of images and floor plans
schematics sourced directly from the official report titled Investigation and

(01:06:14):
Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons Custody care and
Supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Center MCC
in New York, New York, issued June twenty seven, twenty
twenty three, by the US Department of Justice Office of
Inspector General. Now what they do, what they have in
this is all of these different images coupled with the

(01:06:37):
floor plans of the prison, and they go by certain
markings on the walls and things that were in the
video that we were given as the official video of
a cell. And what becomes apparent from a forensic analysis
of this all this data, is that the camera that

(01:07:01):
they were giving us isn't even the right view to
actually see anything. Really, the door that everybody is going
in and out of, which was marked with the numbers
forty six, isn't even the hallway which leaded to led
to Jeffrey Epstein's l tier or his cell block. Okay,

(01:07:26):
it wasn't even wasn't even the right view in this
particular camera view, Epstein's cell would have been entirely completely
blocked by a wall and a door. There's no field
of view or field of vision to Epstein's tier landing
area from this camera, and that's proven by this forensic analysis.

(01:07:50):
I will put that in the show notes. You have
to study it a little bit, but it's very apparent
because they have orange markings on the wall which they're
going going by, they have actual numbers and markings, official
markings on the prison walls and doors to as reference points.

Speaker 12 (01:08:10):
It's very very clear.

Speaker 11 (01:08:13):
If you look at this that there is no way
that this should even be considered a legitimate thing all together.
So that's why I say the one minute of missing
video is more than likely a red airing because this
isn't even the right video.

Speaker 12 (01:08:31):
We shouldn't even be getting this video.

Speaker 11 (01:08:34):
It doesn't actually have any chance really of showing anything
inside the actual area where Jeffrey Epstein was being housed.
So anyway, getting back to art.

Speaker 13 (01:08:46):
That's really very interesting. I'd like to see that. It's
amazing how expert eyes looking at something I'll say, something
entirely different than expert eyes. We'll see.

Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
Yeah, and apparently the Justice Department can't figure all of
this out, you know anyway, aren't you had something else?

Speaker 12 (01:09:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:09:15):
I mean, this whole thing is discussing and everything that
you just got done saying is stuff that I've figured
out over this past week just by doing some basic
Internet research. I mean, this information is out there. I
don't know why people are still, you know, stumped at
what's going on. But something interesting about Epstein and this
is this is what really sets you know, stands out

(01:09:38):
to me because if you look at some of the
people that Epstein was involved with, he was a financial
investment advisor to a lot of really influential people with
a lot of good money. And so you do little

(01:10:00):
research into this and you come to find out. Jeffrey
Epstein just kind of came out of nowhere with no
experience in investment at all, no experience in finance at all.
So you have to ask the question, if he's got
no experience in investment, no experience in finance, how does

(01:10:22):
he become one of the most influential investment finance advisors
in the country. How does that happen?

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
Yeah, Well, here's questions, here's here's a clue.

Speaker 14 (01:10:36):
All the other stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:10:38):
The Evening Standard from January twenty second, two thousand and one.
I'm sorry, what would you say? Sorry, I didn't mean
to step on you.

Speaker 14 (01:10:47):
When you look at everything, when you look at everything,
when you look at everything else, it becomes obvious bribery.
He gets them to the island or one of his
other mansions, he gets them on the video in some
compromising stuff, and then he says, hey, look, if you
don't want this information to get out there, here's what's

(01:11:10):
going to happen. Well, where I come from, that's bribery. Yeah,
that's how he became in my opinion, that's how he
became these financial investment advisors to all of these big
money people.

Speaker 13 (01:11:23):
Well, and there is wasn't it Lex Westerner who was
running or who is backing Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 11 (01:11:33):
Well, that's the thing is that there are entanglements there.
And I think it was Whitney Webb that did a
deep dive which I thought was so good I posted
it up on the website at Governamerica dot com. I
have to put that one in the It's like a
four or five part series that she did on this
whole all these entanglements with the Epstein affair. And it's yes,

(01:11:53):
it goes right into Lex Wesner, but it also is
very well tied into in the masade and the intelligence establishment.
There is an article here in the Evening Standard that
I'm looking at right now, back from two thousand and
one January of two thousand and one, page two eighty

(01:12:14):
seven in the Evening Standard from January twenty second, two
thousand and one says, dressed more subtly for a shopping
trip on Fifth Avenue than an English pheasant drive in
hislbean hunting boots and one thousand dollars leather parka.

Speaker 12 (01:12:28):
Jeffrey E.

Speaker 11 (01:12:29):
Epstein cut a curious figure alongside Gallane and Andrew at
the Sandringham shooting party. More at home in the world
of intercontinental finance than the English countryside. The immensely wealthy
financier and property developer maintains a mysterious presence in New York.

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He has a license to carry a concealed weapon and
once claimed to have worked for the CIA, although he
now denies it.

Speaker 12 (01:13:00):
Well that was so.

Speaker 11 (01:13:01):
Why would he claim to work for the CIA and
then turn around and deny that he works for the CIA. Well,
maybe he did, maybe he didn't, But I do think
there's no question about that he has ties to intelligentsia.
The Massad would be more likely the intelligence establishment that

(01:13:25):
Jeffrey Epstein works worked with, and Radar Online seemed to
confirm that.

Speaker 12 (01:13:31):
They said.

Speaker 11 (01:13:32):
After years of anticipation, word that Jeffrey Epstein did not
have a blackmail client list and wasn't murdered in a
cover up has been wet with extreme criticism. Radar online
dot Com can officially confirm the sex offender had ties
to foreign spy agencies, including Israel's famed Massad intelligence group,
and suffered a death strangely familiar to one of its

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top agents. They go on to talk about how the
way Epstein was killed was very consistent with the way
that intelligence organizations kill people, and they use as an example.

Speaker 13 (01:14:15):
You know what, I apply the idea that I had
about third extortion, an extortion racket with third party beneficiaries.
That's I think that's what's what is really going on

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because it would be Jeffrey Epstein that would be pointing
the person being extorted. They would point to who the
beneficiary was to be. And if you look at the
law on extortion, it's like a one to one. You know,
I extort you for money, that's extortion. But what is

(01:15:02):
third party beneficiaries. That's a variation on the system that
the Saudis have with paying tributes to the princes of
the kingdom for doing business with the kingdom. In other words,

(01:15:27):
you know a large corporation, Exxon doing business with the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Well they they have a system
of Exxon having to pay a tribute to one of
the princes, you know, pick one. I suppose it's designated
by the by the kingdom, but it's still like a

(01:15:53):
third party beneficiary system. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, interesting, Yeah,
it takes some thought because it's so left you know,
it's like a left handed kind of thing. You know,
you're looking at the right hand, but this is a

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left handed thing.

Speaker 12 (01:16:15):
Yeah. Interesting. Well, I don't know if you had any
more thoughts there. Art.

Speaker 14 (01:16:24):
There's just a lot of stuff going on here. And
you know, it's what I get from people over the
past week is they're absolutely stunned that Trump would be
running interference like this. And I keep trying to explain
to him. You know, he's been compromised from day one. Yeah,
he's done some good stuff, but this right here, this

(01:16:46):
this whole deal right here just goes to show how
deep the corruption runs. Yea, Because you know, there's no
way that they can just dismiss all of this. It's
just not possible. There's just too much going on, doesn't
make sense, and too many people are asking too many questions.

(01:17:07):
And I think if this continues, this is going to
literally destroy Trump's legacy.

Speaker 12 (01:17:15):
Yeah, I think it.

Speaker 13 (01:17:16):
Well that plus is a flip flop on you that
on illegals in the country.

Speaker 12 (01:17:22):
Yeah, well yeah, definitely that too.

Speaker 14 (01:17:24):
Yep. And not only that, but I'm looking at compromisi
as far as I'm concerned. Right now, the FBI, Dan
Bongino and Cash Ptel was there, Oh, well he was,
he was. He committed suicide. The evidence is there, Oh
poppy cock, somebody got to you because I used to

(01:17:46):
watch Dan Bongino in his podcasts all the time, and
he was relentless about this whole Epstein thing. And now
all of a sudden his tune completely changes, say thing
with Cash Patel, he did a complete flip, BONDI complete flip.

(01:18:06):
I think all of these people, Patel, Bongino, Bondie, Trump,
they're all compromised. We can't trust anything they say anymore.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm done with them. I
tried to give them a benefit of the doubt. I
really thought things were going to change, But they've just
showed me that they're just like everybody else that gets

(01:18:28):
in these positions of power. Once they get in there,
they learn the truth. They're told what's what and how
it's gonna be. That's the end of it right there. Yeah,
this entire thing, this is one massive cover up. And
I want to know, Trump, who are you protecting besides yourself?

Speaker 11 (01:18:53):
Yeah, there's definitely somebody somebody is being protected, multiple people, undoubtedly.
And oh yeah, and that's very obvious. Why was he
Why be that defensive. That's the thing that really he
does protest too much. That's the thing that really comes
out in that clip.

Speaker 14 (01:19:12):
And what's really stunning. What's really stunning is the way
that he did that in the cabinet meeting, where I
can't believe we're still talking about, Oh, we're still what
he did right there, that was complete embarrassed the media so.

Speaker 12 (01:19:28):
Much, but it didn't work.

Speaker 14 (01:19:29):
That no one would be that, no one would be
willing to ask any follow up questions, and he was successful.

Speaker 11 (01:19:38):
Well as far as as far as I can't believe
we're still talking about it, interference, we haven't been talking
about it anyway. Very few people have been talking about it.
The last administration again didn't how much did he get?
How much press did it get?

Speaker 12 (01:19:56):
Almost nothing? It just wasn't paid attention to.

Speaker 13 (01:20:01):
Which brings up a good question. Who brought it up?
Who brought up Epstein?

Speaker 14 (01:20:07):
Again?

Speaker 13 (01:20:09):
Do you remember who made the inquiry that set off
this whole? I don't know. Paradigm of chaos, do you know?

Speaker 12 (01:20:23):
Well? I know that he was he was elected with
the understanding.

Speaker 11 (01:20:29):
I mean it was really the people that were running
I mean, the promise was that they were going to
release the JFK files.

Speaker 12 (01:20:36):
They were going to get to the bottom.

Speaker 11 (01:20:38):
Of Epstein all of these things, and all of it
has really been shushed up. We've not never got anything
of real substance out of the whole JFK thing either.

Speaker 13 (01:20:50):
Well, they've been dribbling it out a little bit. James
Jesus Angleton was the CIA counter intelligence guy, and the
understanding that I got from the report was that he
was involved in the not directly personally, but he was

(01:21:13):
involved in the assassination of Kennedy and the whole thing.

Speaker 11 (01:21:20):
So well, I haven't seen anything definitive myself, but you know,
admittedly that there there's a lot of things to go through,
a lot of material that you know, here's where really
you need your own LLM Large Language Model AI that

(01:21:42):
you can dump as much information in as you want
and say, all right, give me a conclusion on this,
but it would have to be something that you can trust.

Speaker 12 (01:21:55):
But anyway, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 40 (01:21:57):
Art.

Speaker 14 (01:22:00):
Spend one massive cover up. And you know what really
disturbs me the most about all of this is the
President of the United States literally running interference. Yeah, the audacity,
the nerve, the gall of this man. I find repulsives. Yeah,

(01:22:25):
I agree, absolutely repulsives. Anyway, I've taken enough of you
guys time. I really appreciate it. And y'all have a
great week.

Speaker 12 (01:22:33):
Yeah you too, God bless thank you. Talk to you later.

Speaker 14 (01:22:36):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:22:37):
Yeah, I think a lot of people do when it
comes to children. Children have to be protected, and we
want to think that a conservative administration is going to
go all out to bring perpetrators of child abuse to justice. Unfortunately,
that the rich and powerful are more worthy of protection
apparently than.

Speaker 13 (01:22:58):
Well, I don't know if you remember what when George W.
Bush said money Trump's peace. So it's the same principal
money Trump's everything, which is one of the most disgusting
things about this country that in the conversion of our

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country to this corporatized system, they've destroyed any moral fiber.

Speaker 12 (01:23:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:23:31):
I wanted to play real quickly, a couple of clips
and we'll go back to the phones. But there was
Epstein's brother was he mocked Bill barr In FBI Director
Cash Mattel for Cash Patel. Well, by the way, I
wanted to correct something we said earlier. You were talking
about Homeland Security Secretary. We mentioned Michael Cherudoff, Trudoff wasn't

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the first. He was the second. I want to think
that's right.

Speaker 13 (01:23:55):
Yeah, and it was the governor, it was the first.

Speaker 11 (01:23:59):
Tom Ridge was his death thanks to the small acts
in the chat room for correcting me on that or
correcting us.

Speaker 14 (01:24:08):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:24:08):
But yeah, the brother of Epstein, he was talking about
how you know, they were saying because it because it
because the coroner or the medical examiner, the autopsy doctors
said it looked more like a homicide than.

Speaker 12 (01:24:24):
A suicide when Epstein was killed and.

Speaker 11 (01:24:27):
Epstein's brother, uh, you know, or the FBI, Cash Betel,
came out and he basically overruled the autopsy report.

Speaker 12 (01:24:37):
Well, this is what Epstein's brother said about Mark.

Speaker 41 (01:24:40):
For you, it's personal. This was your brother.

Speaker 14 (01:24:42):
Uh.

Speaker 41 (01:24:42):
And just so everybody knows.

Speaker 12 (01:24:44):
Mark wasn't miss Andrew Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 41 (01:24:46):
But of anything that his brother was doing in this regard,
he's never been connected to it. There's never been a suggestion.
It's not about that. But Mark, you do not believe
what the administration, the Trump administration is putting out about
your brother. Now.

Speaker 42 (01:24:58):
Why Well, every time they say something to do something
to try to cross the the fact that.

Speaker 29 (01:25:06):
He was most likely murdered. They just put their foot
further down their mouth.

Speaker 42 (01:25:11):
I mean, for instance, here's Kretel in the congressional hearing.

Speaker 29 (01:25:15):
You know, he listed his credentials as a.

Speaker 42 (01:25:17):
Prosecutor and other such things, and he said that it
was a suicide. He said, you know a suicide when
you see it. That's basically what he said. So the
questions that popped into my mind was, first of all,
number one, how many suicides has he seen? Number one too?
Is he a forensic pathologist? Does he have a medical degree,
Does he have a certificate that he passed the CPR course?

(01:25:40):
Does he have a Boy Scout merit badge for first Aid?
What is he basing his expertise on. Contrasts that to
doctor Roman, who was a city pathologist who did the autopsy.
She came out of the autopsy and said she couldn't
call it a suicide because it looked too much like
a homicide. Doctor Michael Barton, who was there and might
be here for witness the autopsy, also confronted incurred that

(01:26:04):
it looked more like a homicide in a suicide. Now,
was Cash Pattel in the autopsy room? No, was Cash
Pattel in the prison when they found Jeffrey No, I
don't think so. When if he was there, that raises
even a bigger question, you know, So every time they
say something.

Speaker 29 (01:26:20):
I mean, when when PTEL came out with that statement.

Speaker 42 (01:26:24):
I laughed at how stupid it was, you know. And
then they just released this video. This you're going to
like after the death. A few days after the death,
Bill Barr, the Attorney General, said he saw that video
and he saw that nobody went in or out of
the tier, and that convinced him it was a suicide.
And I heard that, and they realized how stupid that was,

(01:26:44):
because no one could get to that door, go in
and kill somebody, leaves completely undetected.

Speaker 12 (01:26:51):
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Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please, right, thank.

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You, thank you for having me. You know, I think
his whole snack foo with Trump in the middle of
trying to deflect uh attention from a major compromise situation,
we need to look at restoring our republic because Trump
was elected under.

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Hello.

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Hm, it has to be SQL.

Speaker 46 (01:33:14):
They didn't realize they were dealing with an individual who
understood that they tried to pawn off the clipped or
manipulated video data and audio data.

Speaker 11 (01:33:26):
Yeah, that's exactly right, because you know, they get they
get away with lying so much, and they it doesn't
matter which administration it is, they all do it. They
lie to the public routinely, but when you provide evidence,
they seem to forget sometimes that people they're you know,
when you release it to the entire country, there's going

(01:33:48):
to be enough people who are knowledgeable in that area
that they're not going to buy your bull crap. People
are going to examine what you've given them and go
through through it and forensically point out the flaws. And
so I think you're right. I think they genuinely thought
that they could get away with just putting something out

(01:34:09):
there and not having it really examined very well. It's
just like it reminds me of Obama's birth certificate. Now,
I wasn't there. I don't know exactly where Obama was born.
I know that there was a lot of references, oh
by Michelle Obama of about his home country being Kenya.

(01:34:30):
But when they put out and it was Trump that
was trumpeting the need to have Obama's birth certificate, well,
when they finally released the birth certificate, it had layers
like it was produced in some kind of a software system.
In other words, it looked like they had forgotten to
flatten the file. You know, anybody who's worked with a

(01:34:53):
W Photoshop or anything that you use with some kind
of imaging software, you work with layers.

Speaker 12 (01:35:00):
Often. When when they put out Obama's.

Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
Supposed birth certificate, it had layers like they had forgotten
to flatten it, in other words, taking all the all
the layers and combine them into one they left the
layers intact. So what are we to make of this?

(01:35:24):
And it's the same same type of thing. When you
provide the actual uh scientific you know, document, whether it's
a file, whatever it is. Uh, you you provide, you
open yourself up to scrutiny. And I don't think they're
used to having that scrutiny. Go ahead, I'll give you

(01:35:47):
another shape.

Speaker 12 (01:35:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:35:47):
I think they they were arrogant thinking that uh, the
people out here in you know, in the heart of
America or not really stupid people. Yeah, you know, and
there are so many experts on so many things on
the internet that I'm not sure you could actually get

(01:36:12):
away with anything without lying about it. Did you have
anything ignoring the experts?

Speaker 12 (01:36:19):
Did you have anything else there? Tom?

Speaker 46 (01:36:22):
Well, I'm just sad that in the case that I
had been involved with, they didn't even allow the data,
the true data that presented in the court. It had
no standing. Yeah, and they suckered my hand in they're
taking a plea bargain. We actually lost him a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 12 (01:36:40):
Anyway, I'm very sorry about.

Speaker 46 (01:36:42):
That, because you know, at least we did keep him
from go to federal prison and dying in federal prison
because they well.

Speaker 13 (01:36:52):
They pump up the charges so much that, you know,
even for something relatively minor, that puts you in jail
for the rest of your life. So your only option
really is to plea bargain. Yeah, that's why they have
such a high conviction rate.

Speaker 12 (01:37:13):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:37:13):
Through and the accusation becomes the crime, and ultimately it's
going to cost so much to defend yourself.

Speaker 13 (01:37:21):
Yeah. When I was when that friend of mine was
arrested in Oregon, that's what I found out. They put
all of the the charges and the penalties right up front,
and even as the trial proceeds, if those charges are

(01:37:42):
knocked out, doesn't matter because because the penalties were defined
or determined at.

Speaker 12 (01:37:49):
The very beginning yep, exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:37:53):
So you could end up, you know, going to jail
for the rest of your life for what effectively is
like a parking ticket.

Speaker 12 (01:38:02):
Yeah, I'll give you a final shot there.

Speaker 46 (01:38:04):
Tom Well, I had actually grown up with the delusion
to think that there was justice in a judicial system
when I got involved with Gassiamerica dot com. For example,
when I went to DC, and I thought they would
be so grateful for that exposure of that fact that

(01:38:25):
created a poison risk for thirty four million. My shock
was to find out that I was a persona non grata.
In fact, when I was turning on my computer and
actually displaying the facts, I would yoga said, turn that
GD thing off the very people who created the problem.

Speaker 12 (01:38:48):
Wow. But anyway, Hey, thank you for the call. Appreciate it.

Speaker 13 (01:38:52):
I think we have such perversion of government, it's astounding.
I mean, that's one thing that's been clear throughout all
my research is the perversion of government. And I can't
really say when that started to happen. Certainly absolutely started

(01:39:16):
to happen during the Bush administration, the first one, the
New World Order president. They began to pervert our law.

Speaker 11 (01:39:32):
Yeah, uh, California. Call her called back, but then dropped again.
So I don't know if she's having trouble with her
her cell phone or whatever phone she's on, but she's
able to call back. I'll take it when I see it.
I got one more clip from the Epstein thing, and
then I'll just let it, let it go. But I

(01:39:52):
do know that we had Deshwitz Alan Dershowitz. Remember he
was implicated in a lot of this, and he says falsely.

Speaker 12 (01:40:03):
So I don't know. I'm not in a position to
say one way or the other. But he said that.

Speaker 11 (01:40:12):
He said that he's actually seen a physical client list
from Epstein.

Speaker 19 (01:40:17):
This is not an opinion, this is a fact I
have seen. Remember, I was accused falsely and the abscene,
and ultimately I was completely cleared. The woman admitted that
she may have mistook me for somebody else and withdrew
all of her lawsuits. And so from day one, from
the day I was accused, I said, I want every
document out because I knew every document would prove I
was innocent. So let me tell you, I know for

(01:40:38):
a fact documents are being suppressed, and that being suppressed
to protect individuals. I know the names of the individuals.
I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them.
But I'm bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases.

Speaker 12 (01:40:53):
And I can't That's very convenient, hasn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:40:55):
And disclosed what I know. But I hand to god,
I know I know the names of people.

Speaker 11 (01:41:01):
Now, why would he be bound by a judge to
not disclose that.

Speaker 13 (01:41:06):
Well, that's the way lawsuits are settled.

Speaker 11 (01:41:10):
Let's protect everybody, everybody who's guilty.

Speaker 12 (01:41:14):
Let's protect them all and not protect the victims.

Speaker 19 (01:41:16):
Whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them,
and that's wrong, just out of carried out thy without names.

Speaker 14 (01:41:24):
Are these politicians, business leaders both, they're everything, and let
me tell you a lot of them are.

Speaker 19 (01:41:32):
At least one of them is somebody who was accused.
Others are accusers. And the judges have said if somebody
calls themselves a victim a victim, we're not going to
give any information about them. But they may not be victims,
they may be perpetrators. So we don't have information about
false accusers. And we know there have been many false

(01:41:53):
accusers who have accused innocent people from money, and those
records are being deliberately, willfully surprised. Yes, and they shouldn't
be suppressed. If the accusation is allowed out, so should
the material that diminishes the credibility of the accuser. We
want total transparency on this, every single document, no redaction.

(01:42:14):
That's what I've said from day one. I waive any
of my rights of privacy. Anything there is about me,
I'm happy because it will be exculpatory because I know
I haven't touched a woman other than my wife. From
the day I met Jeffrey Fstein. I don't even hug people,
but I was falsely accused and I was able to
prove it, and I was able to prove it through documents,
and I want other people to be able to disprove

(01:42:36):
false accusations through documents. But these documents are being suppressed
and with pell Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:42:41):
So I don't know anything about his involvement with Epstein,
but I still think he's a scumbag because I saw
his position on the COVID lockdowns, and that cemented my
opinion of Alan Dershowitz. He was all in with defending
the COVID lockdowns. You don't have the right to be
a constitutional right to be a typhoid, Mary, Okay. So

(01:43:06):
I guess we can just be locked down forever in
Aldandershawitz's world, and that's.

Speaker 13 (01:43:11):
Perfectly fine to the US public police, state public health system.

Speaker 12 (01:43:15):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:43:16):
So he'd be all in with the who I guess,
locking down the entire country. That'd be fine with Alan Dershowitz.
So yeah, that pretty much cemented my opinion of him.
Jeffrey Epstein debacle aside. All right, let's go back to
the phones. I don't know if this is Tom calling back. Hello,
you're on the air.

Speaker 12 (01:43:35):
Cop Sorry, hold on.

Speaker 46 (01:43:36):
Tell you I understand his position because in a handful
of the cases that my findings a fact proved that
they quote the accused is innocent. And I'm talking about
even an industry like what well, when they were claiming
that Cole I was in spaguette an apple juice, apple

(01:43:57):
juice and had caused the death to the child. When
I was brought in and I proved that that was wrong,
the judge closed the case down. He dismissed the case
without prejudice, but then put a gag order on everybody
in that courtroom.

Speaker 12 (01:44:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 46 (01:44:16):
Right, the gag order. That's that's a Shepherd law and
fraction according to them. Anyway, Yeah, you can understand him
in silence.

Speaker 11 (01:44:25):
Yeah, it's terrible if you're really falsely accused.

Speaker 12 (01:44:28):
I mean, that's there's nothing worse than that.

Speaker 11 (01:44:30):
In fact, that's why the American system of justice such
as it is, is set up the way it is
to protect people who are accused, and even if even
to the point of it may be causing some accused
who are actually guilty to go to go free because
they there's there's really no way to easy way to

(01:44:53):
defend yourself. This is why the presumption is on innocent
until proven guilty, and you don't have to prove your
your your innocence. Supposedly, in practice, however, you are presumed
guilty until you prove your innocence. It really does operate backwards,
but that's not the way it's supposed to be anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:45:13):
Hey, appreciate, appreciate the call. Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:45:15):
Let's move on. I mentioned the COVID lockdowns real quickly.
I want to share from the Brownstone Institute, and you'll
find this interesting, VICKI.

Speaker 12 (01:45:26):
They say.

Speaker 11 (01:45:26):
Much has been written on the amendments to the International
Health Regulations IHR, which most countries are making themselves subject
to after July nineteenth. Many raise concerns of loss of sovereignty, censorship,
corporate greed, and conflict of interest, but most are missing

(01:45:47):
the main point, the shear and outright stupidity and fallacy
on which the whole pandemic agenda is based. July nineteenth
is the last day that member states of the World
Health Organization w can withdraw from the International Health Regulation's
amendments without entering a multi year withdrawal process. By failing

(01:46:10):
to withdraw, they will be committing their tax payers to
fund the key surveillance aspects of a rapidly expanding industry
that is, the pandemic industrial complex. They will be required
to set up an extensive network to search for well
established natural phenomena, including the tendency of viruses to mutate

(01:46:31):
into variance. This has been part of the natural world
for hundreds of millions of years, but demonstrating it has
recently become a highly profitable due to a confluence of
technological advances and intense marketing. Firstly, we have developed the
ability to detect variance with technologies such as PCR and
gene sequencing. Now we've talked a lot about how PCR

(01:46:54):
is not anything. Even the guy that won the Nobel
Prize what was his name again, Carrie Mullis. Carrie Mullis,
he won the Nobel Prize for the PCR test. He
said that all it does is magnify what's there? Okay,

(01:47:15):
he said, you can't really detect anything, really, I mean
you just being able to say it's something specific from
the PCR test is nonsense. And most of these tests
are based upon the PCR, if not all of them.
So that's that's fallacy number one, but they said it

(01:47:36):
also helps find a lot of viruses gene sequencing or
what have you that we have not had noticed before,
as they are mostly harmless. Secondly, we have developed digital
identification and communications technologies that will allow an unprecedented level
of mass media coordination and public coversion. What globals could
do on a national scale, we can now do almost globally. Thirdly,

(01:47:59):
we have developed pay to print modified RNA medicines or
vaccines that are really cheap, but through the use of
fear and coercion, can be injected into almost anyone returning
excellent profits. The text of the IHR amendments reads fairly innocuously. First,
few or few countries will decline their adoption. The people

(01:48:20):
making the decisions often have career interests in the pandemic
industry anyway, and politicians don't see much gain in standing
against the flow of finance and anyway. There's this aspect,
and they don't say this, but I will, Uh, you
gotta trust trust the science, right.

Speaker 13 (01:48:37):
Right supposedly, so, the people may have so much distrust
of science and our healthcare industry and the public health
system that there's no way I would take anything recommended

(01:48:58):
by those people. Yeah, I consider them to be kind
of like almost mass.

Speaker 12 (01:49:05):
Murderers, I would agree.

Speaker 11 (01:49:09):
In the twenty years prior to COVID nineteen, experts recruited
by the G twenty to present evidence supporting IHR amendments
could only find outbreaks amounting to about one hundred ninety
thousand deaths in the twenty years pre.

Speaker 13 (01:49:21):
COVID out of what eight or nine billion people, one
hundred and twenty thousand deaths they call pandemic. Yeah, give
me a freaking break.

Speaker 11 (01:49:34):
Putting numbers to these. Nearly all, or one hundred and
sixty three thousand, are attributed to swine flu in two
thousand and nine, about a quarter of normal yearly flu mortality.
Most of the remainder were from the geographically confined West
African ebola outbreak and the Haiti cholera outbreak, which arose

(01:49:55):
from sewage leaking from a United Nations compound. In contrast,
about isn't that interesting? Yeah, once again un helping the world.
And contrast, about one point three million people currently die
a year from tuberculosis and over six hundred thousand children
from malaria. Roughly one hundred million died from malaria, tuberculosis,

(01:50:19):
and HIV slash AIDS, something Faucy was very deeply involved
in as well, combined over the same twenty year period. Undaunted,
the G twenty Secretariat concluded that the acute outbreak above
constituted an existential threat, justifying far more resources.

Speaker 12 (01:50:38):
So not to be.

Speaker 11 (01:50:39):
Outdone, the World Bank teamed up with the WHO to
provide an exploratory graphic and their official report aimed at
convincing our governments to divert funds to pandemics rather than
major endemic diseases malaria, tuberculosis, and HIV slash AIDS. To
justify public money being allocated to profitable pandemic preparedness rather

(01:50:59):
than eye burdens and diseases, they needed to show that
pandemics cost economies far more. They drew a line from malaria, tuberculosis,
and HIV AIDS combined at twenty two billion dollars per year.
Then they drew a wavy line above this to include
that SARS won, which was responsible for eight hundred and

(01:51:20):
forty deaths and mirrors about eight hundred debts, cost fifty
to seventy billion dollars. COVID is costed at over nine
trillion dollars, which clearly includes cost of lockdowns and incentive
packages from the extraordinary response anyway it goes on. The
bottom line is, even though the main proponents of the

(01:51:41):
IHR amendments cannot articulate a coherent case for having them,
they will come into force. This is simply about building
an industry to repeat COVID, taking money from the larger
but less profitable disease burdens, printing more, and concentrating this
wealth among those promoting the new normal, the exact opposite

(01:52:03):
of what the WHO is supposed to do. The United
States Argentina both have stated their intent to leave the WHO.
We will see how that lasts. I wouldn't put a
whole lot of money on Trump. I said that.

Speaker 13 (01:52:18):
They did take us out.

Speaker 12 (01:52:21):
Well, I don't know how much.

Speaker 13 (01:52:24):
I think that is. One of the good things that
he actually did was take us out of the WHO.
But the thing is is that if a president can
put us in or take us out on executive order,
it means absolutely nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:52:40):
Well he can't. I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:52:42):
The thing is, the bottom line is all of these
agreements require Senate ratification, and that's the bottom line. Well,
it's just like him withdrawing from out entirely.

Speaker 13 (01:52:54):
They really need to shut down the whole damn United Nations.

Speaker 12 (01:52:58):
Totally totally agree.

Speaker 13 (01:52:59):
But you know what they're going to do another I
just saw hearing parts of a hearing. They're going to
actually do another round of quote reforms on the UN
administrative system. Over the years, you know, the news media
makes it sound like, you know, the UN is the

(01:53:22):
same as it was when it was set up in
nineteen forty five. That's not true. Over the years, they
have been reforming and changing to give it a world
government structure. When it was originally created, all of the
agencies of the UN were separate, independent agencies, except maybe

(01:53:48):
for the International Labor Organization and UNESCO, but all of
the rest were separate, independent. Over time, they have been
linking these things altogether into a management structure for world government.

Speaker 11 (01:54:10):
Yeah, let me go ahead and get back to the
phones real quick. I may have to hold the caller
over California. Just called back, Hello, You're on their go ahead.

Speaker 45 (01:54:18):
Please, thank you, thank you. I was saying that Trump
was elected under a system that was adulterated, that was
revised unconstitutionally beginning in eighteen fifty two, where the political parties,
which of course are run by the elites, were allowed
to choose the electors in many states, and now they
choose the electors in all states. And in fact, our

(01:54:42):
public needs to understand that we have a right to
one presidential elector for every thirty thousand persons elected democratically.
You guys, is that yourself up to run to be
the elector? And there's of course going to be not
hundreds of electors, but thousands of electors, and that is
not so costly to win a campaign, and you are

(01:55:04):
not running for president, and you are supposed to be
on the ballot. The president. The people winning for president
are not supposed to be on the ballot. And that's
how Lincoln got in. I've heard that in the South
he wasn't on the ballot. That's because the South was
following the constitution.

Speaker 12 (01:55:20):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 11 (01:55:20):
Lectures, Yeah, they used to vote for the electors directly,
and now we don't even know who their names are.

Speaker 45 (01:55:27):
Yeah, it was never it wasn't meant to be changed
to what it is now. And so Trump had to
be chosen by the elite, okay, and he has to
be compromised that the ball moves by definition, so we
need to return to full compliance with the Constitution. And
I follow g. R. Mobley on his reclaiming the Republic

(01:55:48):
dot org and he's brought podcasts and I think he's
saying that all we have to do is to notify
are what the secretary of state of the state that
they're in non in compliance with the Constitution. They must
suspect their oath of office. And the names of the
people running to be the electors are to be on

(01:56:09):
the ballot in twenty that would be twenty eight. And
we also have the right to one member of Congress
elected democratically for.

Speaker 11 (01:56:20):
Each thirty Okay, I'm gonna have to hold you over.

Speaker 12 (01:56:25):
Let me hold you over the break if you want.

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I mustypee ICE conducting a raid at a pair of
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Speaker 48 (01:59:10):
DHS says it is investigating whether those ten children found
at the marijuana farm in California were being exploited and
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Trafficked, and also raise concerns that this.

Speaker 48 (01:59:23):
Bill that Democrats are promoting, which would ban ICE agents
and federal immigration officers from concealing their identities in most operations,
would place those law enforcement officials in danger. But California
Democratic Senator Alex Badia is defending his proposal that would
mandate ice where visible identification and ban them from concealing
their faces posting to X. In a democracy, no one

(01:59:45):
should have to guess if they're being handcuffed by real
law enforcement or armed impostors.

Speaker 47 (01:59:50):
A group of state lawmakers were to not access to
the newly built migrant detention center in the Florida Everglades.
Now they are taking legal action against Governor Ron de Santis,
accusing him of overstepping his power. Governor DeSantis says this
facility helps achieve what taxpayers voted for.

Speaker 49 (02:00:06):
Alligator Alcatras is going to enhance the ability of the
federal government to do more deportations of illegal aliens, and
that's what people want to see. That's what a lot
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law calls for.

Speaker 47 (02:00:21):
Relief organizations are finally making it into the flood zone
in central Texas and reporting back. The need is tremendous.

Speaker 8 (02:00:28):
Steve Jordall reports.

Speaker 34 (02:00:29):
Relief groups like Eight Days of Hope had been chomping
at the bit to start working in Kirk County, where
the floods hit a couple of weeks ago, the local
authorities asked them to hold back so they didn't get
in the way of the search for survivors. A day,
President Steve Tivers says, they've finally made it to the
banks of the Guadalupe River.

Speaker 50 (02:00:45):
We have deployed our Rapid Response Division, our heavy equipment
from backos to bobcats, bulldozers, lift trucks. We'll be going
into Kirk County to clear off some of the debris
along the banks.

Speaker 34 (02:01:00):
They're working at the direction of local authorities, not directly
involved with the recovery efforts, but clearing away as the
search for more than one hundred and fifty missing continues.
He says, the heartbreak is everywhere.

Speaker 50 (02:01:11):
You know, everyone knows somebody that is missing or a
loved one that has gone through. You know, just the
worst phone call that you can get. You know, this
is the perfect time for the church to be there
for people who are hurting that might not.

Speaker 34 (02:01:24):
Know Jesus Convoy of Hope is on the ground there too.
Vice President Stacy Lamb says they're helping first responders another
victims of the flood just get.

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Emergency supplies in the field as soon as possible food, water, hygiene.

Speaker 50 (02:01:37):
Kits, baby care items, even cleaning supplies.

Speaker 34 (02:01:41):
He too, has never seen this much heartbreak up close.

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The weightiness, the heaviness of what they're doing.

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Even though it.

Speaker 14 (02:01:48):
Is primarily a recovery effort at this point, unfortunately, it's
still weighs on them heavily.

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Speaker 47 (02:01:57):
Thousands of conservative young people are gathering in Tampa, Florida
this weekend with the annual Turning Point USA Student Action Summit.
Charlie Kirk is the head of the organization.

Speaker 51 (02:02:06):
This remnant that we are building with younger voters is
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we could talk about one beautiful bill and all the
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doesn't stand college campuses. It will grow into corporate life,
will grow into the halls of Congress. And what Turning
Point USA is doing here this weekend in Tampa, Florida,

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I believe will help make sure America remains free and
strong for generations to come.

Speaker 47 (02:02:31):
Speakers at the summit include Secretary of Defense Pete Hexth
and Secretary of Homeland Security Christy nom two rival car
makers who were recently in talks to merge may be
working together because of tariffs.

Speaker 52 (02:02:43):
Honda could be making cars or trucks at a Nissan
plant in the US. Reuters says Nissan Motor is in
talks with Honda about manufacturing Honda pickups at Nissan's Canton
plant in Mississippi, which currently makes the Frontier. The plant
has excess capacity and producing the trucks in the US
would avoid tariffs. Both automakers are facing challenges, including rising

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competition from Chinese automakers in addition to ongoing US Japan
trade talks over tariffs. Though Nissan isn't offering any details
about the Mississippi plant talks, it says it continues to
work on projects with Honda, but won't comment on speculation.
Jinny Cosela, Fox News.

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Speaker 12 (02:05:47):
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Seventeen seventy six, if you'd like to call in join
in the broadcast, we have California on the line.

Speaker 12 (02:05:55):
Here is this Cynthia.

Speaker 11 (02:06:00):
Okay, all right, yeah, I thought that's who, So go ahead.
We started your call before the top of the or break.
Thanks for holding over. You were talking about the Electoral College.
I don't know if you finished with that.

Speaker 45 (02:06:15):
Well, I was turning to the twenty twenty six elections
coming up. We have a right to one member of
Congress to be elected from every thirty thousand persons, and
I would hope you would use your bully pulpit that
you have to advocate that the communities start organizing and

(02:06:36):
demanding that the state returned to that and that you
guys could actually run also, because really, if you look
at what they're supposed to be doing, there's really not
that much that need to be doing. And I don't
really need to do it in DC if we do
an amendment that says they can have to live, vote

(02:07:00):
and advocate from their home district in a public venue
that is for voting, so it can be transmitted electronically.
It doesn't have to be transmitted by paper as long
as the public is viewing it. Because some supreme court
decided that they couldn't vote from their home district, which

(02:07:20):
was crazy. That was maybe true back two hundred plus
two hundre fifty years ago, but not now. So I'm
hoping that you guys will take the lead and encourage
other broadcasters and other other radio show hosts decide to
step forward. You could be in a presidential elector because

(02:07:44):
there is no pay associated with being a presidential elector,
and it's a great networking opportunity to spread information around
about who's out there that we would like to see
as president. We don't have to go with the person
chosen by the Pentagon or the person chosen the international
banksters anymore. We can go with somebody the people choose.

Speaker 12 (02:08:05):
Yeah, that sounds like an interesting idea.

Speaker 13 (02:08:09):
I have to think about that.

Speaker 11 (02:08:12):
They're they're they're really working really hard to do away
with the electoral college system. It's under attack in a
major way, and there's a lot of money funding.

Speaker 12 (02:08:21):
This this effort. I personally as a talk show host
and I'm not sure.

Speaker 11 (02:08:27):
It's that's that's probably maybe I would imagine that's probably
the reason why I got this, But twice now I
have gotten a book in the mail, and it is
a book. It is a thick book. I should take
a picture of that and post it somewhere. This thing

(02:08:47):
is big enough to choke a mule. And it is
a an advocacy of why we should go with a popular.

Speaker 53 (02:08:55):
Vote, and it is it would cost a fortune to
print out a bunch of these and mail it to
anybody who they think might have a little influence.

Speaker 11 (02:09:09):
And I've gotten it twice now in the mail from
these people the national popular vote. So to suggest that
there's not a lot of money backing the attack on
the electoral college system, well, anybody saying that is clearly

(02:09:31):
missing the mark, because it's majorly under attack. So yeah,
I mean, I mean, clearly they're afraid of something like
you're describing here, people being able to take it back
by using the electoral college system, doing everything they can

(02:09:52):
and of course gutting the rights of the rural areas
to be able to have any say whatsoever.

Speaker 12 (02:09:59):
You know, because under a system of the.

Speaker 11 (02:10:01):
National popular vote, the rural areas wouldn't have any say
at all. I mean basically, it would all be decided
by the big cities and that would be it. Yeah,
you'd never and the national politics would continue to go
and all the politics really would continue to go into
the crapper. I'll give you a final shot there, Cynthia.

Speaker 45 (02:10:24):
Well, it sins the reason that there's only a certain
percentage of the public that have the ability to reason
logically and remember and remain uncompromised, and that the locals,
when they know who that is much better than when
they're presented with a national candidate. I mean, look how

(02:10:45):
easy we will harnswaggle by Obama, whatever his real name
is and whoever his real parents are.

Speaker 14 (02:10:51):
We're not really sure.

Speaker 45 (02:10:52):
Nope, at least go with somebody that you know was
raised in your community and that got an education honestly,
and that is capable of managing a business and maybe
having an engineering degree, and so that would be the
person you want making the decision for you, not the

(02:11:13):
person who you don't want to make a decision for
the person who has the most money to get their
name in front of you as many times as Coca
Cola does every day exactly you want. Okay, So that's
what I wanted to say. I hope you guys will
take the lead.

Speaker 12 (02:11:27):
All right.

Speaker 11 (02:11:28):
I appreciate the call. God bless you her. All right,
talk to you later, Bye bye.

Speaker 12 (02:11:33):
All right.

Speaker 11 (02:11:35):
Yeah, very very good points, very interesting, and we'll definitely
look deep.

Speaker 12 (02:11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:11:42):
I wanted to turn a corner real quick and talk
a little bit about Agenda twenty one. Well, you know,
I guess if you're talking about national politics, you could
talk about Biden and who was really running the country.
Biden was supposedly, supposedly elected via the electoral college system.
I think the whole thing was fraud, but it didn't matter.
He got in there, and once he got in there,

(02:12:05):
who was really running the country. I bring that up
only to say that doctor Kevin O'Connor, who was Biden's doctor,
apparently testified this week before the House Oversight Committee. But
it was a it was a closed door meeting, but
he as a physician, he invoked his privilege against self incrimination.

Speaker 12 (02:12:28):
He took the fifth.

Speaker 11 (02:12:31):
And I love the headline on the zero hedge Biden's
doctor take a fifth and call me in the morning. Perfect. Perfect,
But why number one? Why would it be a closed
door meeting. Why can't we know what these people are saying?
Number one?

Speaker 12 (02:12:48):
And number two?

Speaker 11 (02:12:48):
Why would it be necessary to take the fifth against
self incrimination?

Speaker 12 (02:12:54):
Why can't we know who was controlling the country during
the Biden administration opposed Biden presidency? Why is that? You know, Oh,
it's not relevant. Let's move on, you know that.

Speaker 11 (02:13:08):
And that's the thing that Democrats are saying that, very
much like Trump is saying about Epstein, Let's move on,
let's you know. I can't believe you're still talking about that.
The Democrats are saying that about the Biden situation. All
of it is important, all of it is I can't
believe you're still talking about Biden and the auto pen
and who was actually running the presidency.

Speaker 13 (02:13:28):
I have been watching that with interest because I've been
afraid that the Congress is going to do what they
always do, which is due a hearing and then the
whole subject is dropped. Nothing comes from it. But what
those people did that we're using the autopen without Biden's

(02:13:52):
absolute knowledge of what the issues were. They committed treason.
That that's it, that's all. They committed treason against this country,
against the people of this country.

Speaker 11 (02:14:09):
Well, some of the things that they were asking Biden
about that he supposedly signed executive orders on he didn't
even know about. And that's your first clue. Now, of course,
he was a man with an ailing man with Alzheimer's
or some kind of mental deficiency. I mean, you don't
wander into the woods, and you don't wander around shaking

(02:14:31):
hands with people that aren't there and asking where people
that you just eulogized a number of weeks prior, where
are they at the meeting that you're presently speaking at.

Speaker 13 (02:14:44):
So, yeah, it was absolutely obvious that he was non
compassmentus I think the word is. But in an interview recently,
I think I sent this link to you, Majority leader
Mike Johnson caught them in a lie about an issue,

(02:15:07):
and I forget what the issue was, but it was
something that Biden supposedly approved that he didn't know anything about.
He didn't know anything about it, And so I'm really
following that as closely as I can because the Congress

(02:15:30):
has an obligation to do something about that because the
people that were running the country were not authorized to
be running the country.

Speaker 11 (02:15:41):
Exactly, and that's pretty much been the case, probably for
most presidential administrations.

Speaker 12 (02:15:47):
For our entire life, the people that are really running.

Speaker 13 (02:15:50):
No, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't
think so.

Speaker 12 (02:15:53):
It was just a little more over it. I do
think we have a shadow government.

Speaker 13 (02:15:57):
Oh, I do too.

Speaker 12 (02:15:58):
I think we've had a shadow government our entire lives.
But it just became.

Speaker 13 (02:16:04):
Using an auto pen for the president's signature. That's in
an entirely different category.

Speaker 11 (02:16:12):
Yeah, and and and and Obama did use the autopen
and and possibly previous. I don't know exactly when the
autopen actually started. I do know Obama did use the autopen,
but supposedly it was Obama using the autopen, somebody else
using the autopen. Uh on on a president's behalf. You know,

(02:16:37):
auto pins should be banned. I mean, it shouldn't be.
If you can't freaking take time to sign it dang document,
then the document can stay unsigned.

Speaker 13 (02:16:47):
Yeah. Well I don't agree, actually, because presidents send out
letters to a lot of people, you know, thanking them
maybe for the interest in something or other. And you know,
that could be ten thousand letters, you know, or you.

Speaker 12 (02:17:07):
Don't need an autopens.

Speaker 11 (02:17:09):
You can actually send out a form letter.

Speaker 12 (02:17:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:17:13):
You know, the problem is, this is always going to
be a problem. This is always going to be a
difficulty to overcome. How do you know if the president
actually initiated the actual act that they purported to initiate.

Speaker 13 (02:17:30):
Well, maybe they should just require that the Senate majority
leader in the House majority leader be there as a
witness to an autopenry.

Speaker 11 (02:17:42):
To go a notary of sorts. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
I like that interesting. Well, you know, of course, we
have a situation which we really haven't talked about on
this show. Last week, the floods in Texas developed Camp

(02:18:04):
Mystic was swept away. I talked to Mark in Texas,
who lives down Oh, I guess, about four hours from
the area. And I talked to Steve O'Brien, who also
is a talk show host hosts a show on Sunday
Mornings on RBN, and he, you know, they were telling

(02:18:25):
me about how this is an area that floods a lot,
but the problem is is that they had a massive
amount of flooding taking place. And well, here here's a
little bit of a backgrounder which I had clipped for
last week's show. I won't play the whole thing, but
it's now the numbers up to I think like something
like one hundred and ten people dead, something like one

(02:18:47):
hundred and seventy three missing.

Speaker 54 (02:18:48):
We are seeing catastrophic flash flooding in the area of Kerrville, Texas,
located in the central part of the state, just north
of San Antonio. The National Weather Service says a month's
worth of rain in just a few short hours as
people slept early Friday morning.

Speaker 55 (02:19:04):
Tonight, a frantic search for missing and stranded people after
torrential rains triggered deadly flash floods in central Texas.

Speaker 20 (02:19:15):
Authorities in kerr County, north.

Speaker 55 (02:19:16):
Of San Antonio say at least twenty four people were killed,
dozens still missing.

Speaker 12 (02:19:22):
We're not going to be giving any names out at
this time. We're still notifying next to ken Okay, so
I'm gonna stop it there.

Speaker 11 (02:19:28):
As I said, the number is now up to around
one hundred and ten people dead and something like like
one hundred and seventy three missing. A terrible tragedy, horrible,
But right on the heels of that, we had flooding
going on, a big, massive flood in New Mexico.

Speaker 27 (02:19:45):
We begin with breaking news yet another deadly flash flood
emergency unfolding right now, this time in New Mexico.

Speaker 56 (02:19:52):
A river in the south central part of the state,
the Rio Riodoso, rose to a record breaking level of
twenty feet, washing away homes. Emergen cruise conducting dozens of
swift water rescues, but they could not save everyone.

Speaker 8 (02:20:04):
This morning.

Speaker 57 (02:20:05):
Gut wrenching video of a home swept away in Ruindoso,
New Mexico. Oh my god, the area prone to flash
floods in month's slides after a wildfire last year. At
least three people confirmed dead overnight, including two children, multiple
homes destroyed. The mayor speaking with the National Weather Service.

Speaker 58 (02:20:24):
And they were updating as constantly, which they'd been doing
every day every day since monsoon started. So that's why
we were really caught off guard, because we knew it
was coming in, but it just intensified so quickly.

Speaker 57 (02:20:38):
In neighboring Texas, a massive increase in the number of
people missing in the Hill Country flood disaster, at least
one hundred and seventy three people now unaccounted for.

Speaker 11 (02:20:50):
So given the fact that this is going to be
used and already is being used to promote the whole
climate change agenda, because you know, as.

Speaker 12 (02:20:58):
Rams gumbag Rama. Manuel said, never let a good crisis
go to waste.

Speaker 13 (02:21:05):
Uh, especially ones that you create.

Speaker 12 (02:21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:21:09):
I heard part of one part of a story where
they were talking about Noah and modification of the weather
because I guess it's been very dry in Texas. So yeah,
so they're there. To my understanding, there was weather modification.

Speaker 12 (02:21:32):
Involved, Yes, there was, yeah, uh Rama Manuel. You never
want a serious crisis to go to waste.

Speaker 56 (02:21:40):
And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to
do things that you think you could not do before.

Speaker 12 (02:21:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:21:45):
So it paves the ground, paves the way. So we've
talked for decades now about weather modification, weather as a
force multiplier, owning the weather. In twenty twenty five was
an Air Force document, uh with which we have available.
We'll put it in the show notes again. Twenty twenty
five is a study and this is reading from the

(02:22:07):
document designed to comply.

Speaker 12 (02:22:09):
With a directive from the Chief of Staff.

Speaker 11 (02:22:10):
Of the Air Force to examine the concepts, capabilities, and
technologies the United States will require to remain the dominant
air and space force in the future. It was presented
on seventeen June nineteen ninety six. This report was produced
in the Department of Defense School Environment.

Speaker 12 (02:22:27):
So this was nineteen ninety.

Speaker 11 (02:22:29):
Six when this came out where they were talking projecting
that we're going to own the weather in twenty twenty five.
Now this report's been out, like I say, for a
long time. We've been talking about it for a long time,
and they talk everything. You know, lightning control, fog precipitation

(02:22:53):
near space, you know, weather control from space.

Speaker 14 (02:22:56):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:22:57):
The end Mod Treaty of the United Nations mostly banned
weather modification as a weapon of war. The United States
used it in Vietnam to flood the Hoshiman Trail.

Speaker 12 (02:23:08):
Yeah, that's s Thorally document.

Speaker 13 (02:23:10):
That's one of the tricks in law that I was
talking about. They banned the use of it in war,
but what if you're.

Speaker 12 (02:23:18):
Not in war, well, foreign war.

Speaker 11 (02:23:21):
You know, they didn't the en mod Treaty doesn't ban
the use against domestic populations, so they're free to do that.

Speaker 12 (02:23:30):
And you know, the United States doesn't really honor the
treaties anyway. You know, they agree to stuff and they
do whatever they want.

Speaker 11 (02:23:38):
But it's it's very interesting to read Air Force twenty
twenty five Owning the Weather twenty twenty five. And but
as you pointed out, VICKI, they were modifying the weather.
Now the guy who is with this company, and this
one's called rain Maker. I had never heard of rain Maker.

(02:23:58):
I do know that weather Modification Incorporated exists. I think
it was weathermod dot Com if that used to be
the we used to talk about that one. But there
are different companies that are around with the purpose of
modifying the weather. Yeah, Weather Modification Incorporated is still up.

Speaker 12 (02:24:19):
It's still a website.

Speaker 11 (02:24:19):
You can go to weathermodification dot Com and weathermod dot
Com redirects to weather modification dot Com. But they explain
exactly how well you know, what services that they offer.

Speaker 12 (02:24:36):
Go ahead, you were going to say something.

Speaker 13 (02:24:39):
When I was looking into that, Texas actually did have
a Department of Weather Modification.

Speaker 12 (02:24:48):
Yeah, I think they still do.

Speaker 13 (02:24:50):
At the same time I was looking at that, I
was also looking at Sun Valley. Sun Valley, when they
don't enough snow to open, they hire a cloud stating
company so that they can open the resort.

Speaker 11 (02:25:10):
Yeah, exactly to increase the snow pack, the snow amount
on the ski slopes and that sort of thing. Yeah, absolutely,
they do that sort of thing. And I remember it
wasn't that long ago that China openly modified the weather
for to try to make it where they had nice
Olympics weather. So this is something that happens. It's not

(02:25:33):
a conspiracy theory. Now we can debate as to whether
the you know, the degree to which they're effective at
doing it, but this is not something that's really open
really for debate as far as whether they can weather.

Speaker 12 (02:25:50):
They can do it, no pun intended.

Speaker 11 (02:25:53):
So this guy, though, from the company rain Maker, has
been made in the rounds on the media.

Speaker 12 (02:26:03):
I'm looking at the clock. I'm almost I'll tell you what.

Speaker 11 (02:26:05):
Let me go ahead and take the break, and then
we'll address this after the break, because I don't want
to split the report in half.

Speaker 12 (02:26:15):
You know, they try to make it, make it sound.

Speaker 11 (02:26:17):
Like you're a conspiracy nut when you're talking about stuff
that can be thoroughly documented. And two days before, as
Vicky pointed out, this whole thing happened. Now I'm not
saying that that was the cause.

Speaker 12 (02:26:30):
I don't know. There's really no way to know. And
that's the problem with weather modification.

Speaker 11 (02:26:35):
It gives you, it gives them plausible deniability. Oh well, yeah,
we were modifying the weather. But it wasn't enough to
really cause.

Speaker 13 (02:26:45):
Any problem after how many people they killed, yeah, which
I do think they did.

Speaker 12 (02:26:54):
Actually, all right, bottom of the hour. Let's take the break.

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Speaker 12 (02:31:13):
I wanted to get to this report.

Speaker 11 (02:31:16):
The head of the weather modification company rain Maker as
I said, he has been making rounds this week because
they were using weather modification cloud seating technology before this disaster.
And what's interesting is now they're openly telling you that
they can see clouds for many many years. You were

(02:31:38):
a conspiracy nut. If anybody talked about modifying the weather,
You're a conspiracy theorist. You're a you're crazy, you're a lunatic.
Now they're still gonna call you that, even though they're
openly telling you cloud seating is a reality and they're
practicing it.

Speaker 12 (02:31:52):
They call him the rain Maker.

Speaker 59 (02:31:54):
Now he's lasting suggestions that his company may be linked
to the catastrophic Texas flood.

Speaker 60 (02:32:00):
Cloud seating had nothing to do with the remnants of
tropical storm Berry that caused flooding in Texas.

Speaker 12 (02:32:06):
Augustus.

Speaker 59 (02:32:07):
Do Rico's company specializes in cloud seating. That's when particles
are released into the clouds to try to bring about
rainfall during drought conditions. The company, named, appropriately enough, Rainmaker,
conducted cloud seating in Texas for a local nonprofit two
days before the flooding, but they say they stopped all
operations when the forecast called for stormy weather. Now wild

(02:32:29):
conspiracy theories are being spread about they falsely and without
any evidence, claiming it might be linked to the deluge.

Speaker 12 (02:32:36):
Wait a minute, without any evidence. Didn't they just say
that they were doing it. Isn't that evidence? Oh, there's
no evidence.

Speaker 13 (02:32:43):
Leave your lion ears.

Speaker 59 (02:32:45):
Cloud seating is responsible for flooding, goes one typical comment.
Republican firebrand Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green posted, we must end
the dangerous and deadly practice of weather modification. Drica rejects
the idea that the Texas floods may be connected to
his rainmaking operations.

Speaker 60 (02:33:02):
I feel horribly for the people of Texas that were affected,
but not because rainmaker had anything to do with it,
not because cloud seating had anything to do with That is.

Speaker 59 (02:33:11):
Cloud seating capable of creating these kinds of floods.

Speaker 60 (02:33:14):
Tropical storm Berry precipitated trillions of gallons over Texas. That
has about a million times larger than what clouds heating
is eating capable of.

Speaker 12 (02:33:24):
Okay, so that's the report.

Speaker 13 (02:33:27):
You know what. That reminded me that I do watch
the weather watchers sometimes, and sometime before that flood, there
was an interesting formation of a tornado. It looked more

(02:33:47):
like a water spout. When I stayed in Florida for
a while, I did see a water spout in the
Gulf of Mexico. And it's my understanding of it, which

(02:34:07):
is very very primitive and elementary, is that the water spout.
It spins like a tornado, but it actually funnels water
up to the clouds above it. And I don't know

(02:34:28):
exactly when that was, but you know, if anybody wants
to do a search, you could do a search on
the weather channels about that unique phenomenon of a weather
spout that was a tornado over dry land.

Speaker 12 (02:34:47):
Interesting.

Speaker 11 (02:34:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's you know, I don't know if weather
modification played a part in this whole situation.

Speaker 12 (02:34:56):
And here's the thing, even if it did, they're not
going to tell us it did.

Speaker 11 (02:35:01):
And I am sure that the federal government has far
more capabilities in this arena than they would ever tell us,
because they have been working on these projects for well
our entire life, really my entire life at least.

Speaker 13 (02:35:18):
Yeah, it would be the Noah.

Speaker 12 (02:35:22):
National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration.

Speaker 13 (02:35:24):
Yes, and all the ones that have been doing all
the research for all these years.

Speaker 12 (02:35:30):
Let's go to back to Georgia. Art is back. I think, Hello,
you're on the air.

Speaker 14 (02:35:38):
Hey guys, I'm trying to put something in chat room
right now. Okay, it's in the chat room. Interesting thing,
since you brought this up, Texas has been running. Let
me pull up my document here. Texas has been running
seven different state authorized weather modification for across millions of acres,

(02:36:02):
all under the Texas Weather Modification of nineteen sixty seven,
which is regulated by the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation.
Now what's really interesting is just before all of this
flooding and the rain and everything happened before they and
like you said, Rainmaker Technology Corporation CEO Augustus Derico tried

(02:36:29):
to say cloud seating had nothing to do with this.
All we do is we do cloud seating to help
create rain for crops and all of this kind of stuff.
But he also went so far as to say, well,
when we got the weather reports, like he said, when
we got the regular weather reports, we stopped the cloud seating.
But what he didn't tell you, and I put a

(02:36:51):
link in the chat room there anybody wants to go
and see it. Somebody actually hosted a video. There's an
article about this that just prior to all the flooding,
people across Texas in this area had blue tinted rain

(02:37:14):
and this is what exposed these seven different state authorized
weather modification programs that are going on right now.

Speaker 12 (02:37:25):
Interesting.

Speaker 14 (02:37:26):
How do you get Have you ever seen it no
rain that had a bluish tint.

Speaker 12 (02:37:31):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 11 (02:37:32):
I have seen them turn and I've talked about this before,
turn a blue sky into an overcast sky through grid
spring back and forth, back and.

Speaker 12 (02:37:45):
Forth, back and forth.

Speaker 11 (02:37:46):
And that's another thing that they try to say, Oh, well,
you know, there's a difference.

Speaker 12 (02:37:50):
In fact, I got a report here.

Speaker 11 (02:37:52):
We'll play it here in a moment where the EPA
is now coming out and trying to supposedly it's a
limited hangout where they're talking about geoengineering, but they're talking
about what the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail is.

Speaker 12 (02:38:07):
They're talking about, oh, well, you know, you don't, don't.

Speaker 11 (02:38:10):
Worry about the contrails, it's just condensation and that sort
of thing, trying to debunk those of us who know
about the fact that they are spraying in the skies.
We have seen the grid pattern with these jets go
back and forth, back and forth. I mean, this has
been going on for decades, and yeah, why would you know?

(02:38:31):
Now I can understand a contrail, and I could even
maybe understand how some contrails persist for a while at
different altitudes, different aerial temperatures, you know, there may be
a different reason why something scientifically may persist for a
while longer at one altitude where it doesn't at another,

(02:38:54):
But that doesn't explain the fact when a jet goes
back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, turning,
you know, in a grid pattern, and turns literally a
blue sky into an overcast sky. And then I've seen
with my own eyes this wet, long web like material
come out of the sky.

Speaker 12 (02:39:14):
Is falling from out of the sky.

Speaker 14 (02:39:16):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (02:39:17):
My father in law and I were out working on
a car one day and this was going on, and
I pointed.

Speaker 12 (02:39:21):
It out to him.

Speaker 11 (02:39:22):
It was actually reflecting the sun, this stuff coming down
from the sky. And he was telling other people about
it after he saw it because he had never seen
anything like it in all of his life. So nobody
can tell me that this stuff. What are these operations
going on?

Speaker 46 (02:39:39):
You know?

Speaker 11 (02:39:40):
It's funny too we talk about people being compromised JFK
or RFK.

Speaker 12 (02:39:45):
Excuse me?

Speaker 11 (02:39:46):
Was he was going to get to the bottom of this?
So far, I'm not seeing anything come out of that either,
But go ahead, art.

Speaker 14 (02:39:54):
I remember when I was out in Missouri. When I
was in I was actually living just outside of al
in Missouri in twenty seventeen before coming back home to Georgia.
And one day we were in town and I actually
watched as a plane did a kemp trail in this

(02:40:14):
beautiful circle pattern. Never seen that before. And then a
couple of days later, we're back at the farm where
I was living, and we started seeing a bunch of
kem trails going on doing that grid formation, giant kick
tac toe in the sky, and we were talking about

(02:40:34):
different things that we had heard, and I said, you know,
I've heard about people talking about wedding falling from the
sky shortly after the spring. And sure enough, about.

Speaker 12 (02:40:43):
Half hour later, here it comes.

Speaker 14 (02:40:45):
Started seeing this what looked like spider webs here. You got,
I'd never seen anything like that. So you know, they
can say anything they want to say, but there's a
lot of us out here we know better. Now it's
being exposed. Now they're having to admit it. They've got
no choice but to admit it now.

Speaker 12 (02:41:05):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (02:41:06):
And you know, I think every state should follow Florida's
example banning all of the spring. Yeah, you know, I
think really that's what needs to happen. I agree, because
this is this is too much.

Speaker 12 (02:41:20):
At the very least, we should have a national conversation.

Speaker 13 (02:41:24):
Do you remember Scott Stevens. Yes, he was a meteorologist.
He was our local weather guy, okay, and he started
talking about that at about the same time I started
noticing the trails in the sky. So my early introduction

(02:41:52):
to kim trails, what I learned about it came from him,
and he is an actual certified meteorologist, so there was
never any doubt in my mind of what they were doing.

Speaker 11 (02:42:06):
Yeah, well, I remember, and I first heard about it,
started hearing about this stuff going on back in the nineties.
That was my first introduction into it, and it's just
gotten much worse. Yeah, well, you were going to say
something was.

Speaker 14 (02:42:23):
Back in the nineties. Yep, yeah, that was that was
when I first learned about it. Was back in the nineties.
But one final thought, and this is what I tell people,
and people need bonds and continue to talk about this,
continue to spread the word, continue to educate people. What
is in the air is in the rain. If it's
in the rain, it's in the soil. And if it's

(02:42:45):
in the rain and the soil, it's in your food.

Speaker 12 (02:42:49):
Well, if it's in the air, it's in your lungs poison.

Speaker 14 (02:42:52):
They are poisoning us.

Speaker 12 (02:42:54):
Yep, yep, I just stop.

Speaker 11 (02:42:57):
I once wrote an article poisons in the sky to
help the people die, and I think that that's a
lot of the depopulation of Jedda. Hey, thank you, thank you,
are appreciate. Appreciate it. For those whoops.

Speaker 14 (02:43:08):
Instead of not yet seen it, that have not yet
seen it on YouTube. Two documentaries What in the world
are they spraying? And why in the world are they spraying?

Speaker 12 (02:43:19):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (02:43:20):
If you've not seen these and you're really curious about
what this is, what's going on and what it's about,
watch those two documentaries and it will it's it. They
will open your eyes to a lot of information. It's
really frightening. Anyway, Thank you guys, y'all have a great one.

Speaker 12 (02:43:37):
Yep, thank you.

Speaker 11 (02:43:38):
Dane Wiggington, by the way, he produced those. He's been
a guest on the show before. We'll have to get
him back here soon. Let's go to Canada and take
a quick call up there. Hello, you're on the air.
Gohad please?

Speaker 14 (02:43:49):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 61 (02:43:49):
That blue that's in the rain that everybody sees, it's
the turqoise blue and it's the compound copper slosanine, which
is a great energy absorber, and being as copper in it,
it's amenable to being modified with microwavessalo cyanin a turquoise

(02:44:12):
blue Back to You.

Speaker 11 (02:44:13):
You know, I remember Nancy Levant used to co host
the show with Me Back You several years ago now,
and she was talked. She lived in the Upper Peninsula
here in Michigan, and she was told a story one
time where she was outside and it was one of
those days where they had been spraying, and she saw

(02:44:36):
that just out of clear blue, something hit the trail
that was left by a jet and it just all
of a sudden, almost like exploded. And that's my word
to describe what she was saying. I don't remember exactly
the verbide she used, but she said it was like
a laser beam had been pointed at this and it

(02:45:00):
just literally all of a sudden. Yeah, and I'll never
forget that. So, yeah, I wish she had had a
video of it, But of course, you know, you can't
convince anything anybody of anything video wise today, but it
would have been interesting for me to see it because
I knew she wasn't making it up.

Speaker 12 (02:45:20):
Yeah, But anyway, go ahead of call her.

Speaker 61 (02:45:22):
I have video, Yeah, I have videos of drones up
here in British Columbia doing these camtrails. But one thing
I wanted to say, that Blue that Art mentioned in
the call just now in the case to me, there
was wasn't just one company involved in this that can
spray like ten pounds this coppercel a sign and you're

(02:45:46):
going to need a bigger aircraft. So there was other
other other spraying involved that they're not talking about. So
thanks for taking the.

Speaker 11 (02:45:55):
Call, Yeah, thanks for calling. Appreciate it. God bless Yeah,
that's interesting. There's so much about this arena that we
will never learn. There is so much that we will
never be allowed to know, And it's really pathetic that
we are forced at the barrel of a gun to
fund a government that has so many secrets. There is

(02:46:18):
so much that we are not allowed to know. It's
all classified, even to the point of Biden's doctor being
behind closed doors. Why can't we know what he said?
Why can't this be open? Do the people have the
right to know who's in control of government? Do the
people have the right to know whether or not they
have natural weather?

Speaker 13 (02:46:42):
I don't think we're people anymore. When they establish the
World Trade Organization and they included trade in services, they
reduced us to the status of a worker.

Speaker 12 (02:46:58):
A human resource. But well, yeah, human.

Speaker 13 (02:47:03):
Resource, not a citizen. But I mean, you can call
yourself a customer, but the concept of citizen was eliminated
when they created the World Trade Organization.

Speaker 12 (02:47:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:47:19):
Well, and that's why our borders were invaded in mass
And you remember around two thousand and five we were
being invaded. A couple of groups formed, I think one
of them was American Renaissance, and then there was a
guy named Christopher Cox who had a militia group trying

(02:47:43):
to protect the borders. But yeah, they you were demoted.
We were all demoted to quote.

Speaker 11 (02:47:52):
Worker, yeah, which is another name for slave exactly.

Speaker 12 (02:47:58):
Let's be honest, all right.

Speaker 11 (02:48:00):
But the damage control full damage control epas out there now,
Lee Zelden, they're all trying to tell you.

Speaker 12 (02:48:09):
You know, we're gonna be honest with you. We're gonna
come clean.

Speaker 62 (02:48:11):
The Environmental Protection Agency is releasing new online resources about
contrails and geoengineering as it aims to dispel conspiracy theories.

Speaker 63 (02:48:21):
Concerned Americans have urgent and important questions about geoengineering and contrails.
The American public deserves and expects honesty and transparency.

Speaker 38 (02:48:33):
From their government.

Speaker 12 (02:48:34):
I don't know why they would do that.

Speaker 63 (02:48:37):
From their government when seeking answers.

Speaker 62 (02:48:40):
The agency published new information on condensation trails or contrails.
They describe the science behind them and dispel myths and
misconceptions connected to them. These include conspiracy theories about so
called kim trails that claim contrails are chemicals released into
the atmosphere from the government for mind and popopulation control,

(02:49:01):
while conspiracy theories regarding geoengineering claim the government is secretly
manufacturing extreme weather events. The EPA now has an online
tool focusing on solar engineering experiments, which intel cooling the
earth by reflecting sunlight through gases such as sulfur dioxide.

Speaker 11 (02:49:18):
So you're crazy, you're absolutely a lunatic if you think
the government's doing all of this.

Speaker 12 (02:49:24):
But well, here's an example of the government doing it.

Speaker 13 (02:49:28):
Yeah. Notice she didn't say weather controls. She said mind control.
And and I forget what population control, population control, the
new resources.

Speaker 11 (02:49:43):
But they tell you that you're crazy, you're a conspiracy theorists,
and all this other stuff, and then they tell you
how they're doing it.

Speaker 62 (02:49:49):
The new online resources explain the science and studies involving
geoengineering as well. This includes drawbacks such as concerns about
harm to the ozone layer crops and the creation of
acid rain. The new online pages also provide information on
weather modification and cloud seating, including government led efforts.

Speaker 23 (02:50:09):
The APA says.

Speaker 62 (02:50:10):
The move is to show its commitment to total transparency
about legitimate questions Americans have about the phenomena. Zelden's announcement
did draw some criticism, with some on social media arguing
it gives a platform to baseless conspiracy theories and is
a waste of taxpayer money. Others, like Robert F. Kennedy Junior,
applauded the effort. The agency's move comes as conspiracy theories

(02:50:32):
about the deadly Texas flood spread. They include claims the
mass flooding was caused by cloud seating, acclaim debunked by
meteorologists despite the absence of evidence. Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor
Green introduced a bill to ban cloud seating in the
wake of disaster that appears to support the conspiracy theory.

Speaker 11 (02:50:51):
No notice, they don't ever tell you which meteorologists what
meteorologists debunked. Supposedly, this whole idea that cloud seating caused
the flood.

Speaker 12 (02:51:03):
Yeah, and maybe it didn't. I don't know.

Speaker 13 (02:51:05):
Consensus science is just bs.

Speaker 11 (02:51:09):
Yeah, let's listen to the quote unquote experts. We don't
We were not going to tell you who's funding these experts.
But let's just keep talking about experts, experts, experts, which
is technocracy, by the way, ruled by experts. You know,
scientific science, Science is going to dictate everything. Meanwhile, you

(02:51:29):
have situations going on in California with wildfires there.

Speaker 64 (02:51:33):
Evacuations are in order this evening as a massive brush
fire is burning thousands of acres in just a matter
of hours between Santa Maria and Quiama. I mean just
moments ago learned it's burned nearly ten thousand acres so far.
CalFire reports that the Madre fire has burned nine thou
eight hundred acres with no containment right now. In Evacuation

(02:51:56):
order has been issued for residents in Zone SLC three
Evree seven, and an evacuation warning was given to people
in Zone.

Speaker 8 (02:52:04):
SLC three twelve.

Speaker 64 (02:52:05):
Highway one sixty six is closed off from Highway one
oh one to Perkins Road, near New Quiama.

Speaker 12 (02:52:11):
Well, so you have the crops destroyed. So this could
only mean one thing, VICKI, we need to eat more bugs.

Speaker 65 (02:52:17):
In recent years, eating insects has transitioned from a survival
strategy to a gourmet experience. Culinary experts around the world
are now showcasing the unique flavors and textures of various insects.
Dishes featuring crickets, meal worms, and even ants are becoming
popular in high end restaurants. Chefs emphasize sustainability, highlighting that

(02:52:41):
insects require less land and water compared to traditional livestock.
Food enthusiasts are intrigued by the nutritional benefits of insects
packed with protein, vitamins, and minerals, intriguing gastronomy festivals celebrate
insect based cuisine, attracting curious diners eager to try something new.
Innovative recipes transform insects into gourmet items like tacos, croissons,

(02:53:06):
and even chocolate bars.

Speaker 12 (02:53:07):
My mouth is watering already.

Speaker 65 (02:53:08):
The idea of gourmet insect consumption is slowly changing perceptions
and breaking down taboos. Food bloggers and influencers are documenting
their culinary adventures with insect based dishes, inspiring others to explore.
As food trends evolve, insects as a luxury meal are
here to stay, presenting endless possibilities for creativity. The fusion

(02:53:33):
between traditional culinary techniques and insect ingredients is paving the
way for a new wave of cuisine. Environmental advocates also
support this movement, promoting it as a solution to food
security and sustainability challenges. Insects offer an eco friendly alternative
allowing us to enjoy indulgent meals without harming the planet.

(02:53:55):
From fine dining to casual eateies, the acceptance of insects
in our diet is on the rise. Eating insects as
a luxury meal signifies a shift in our culinary landscape,
inviting adventurous palettes to join the movement.

Speaker 12 (02:54:10):
Don't you want to be adventurous? Is it your mouth water?

Speaker 13 (02:54:13):
They can have my.

Speaker 8 (02:54:15):
Share, crispy, fatty, nutritious and delicious.

Speaker 13 (02:54:23):
Oh, nobody likes me.

Speaker 8 (02:54:25):
Everybody hates me. Yes, some bugs.

Speaker 11 (02:54:30):
So we have to now turn to Bill Nye the
Science Guide because it's ruled by the experts.

Speaker 18 (02:54:36):
Just that last part of what we were describing, You
keep hearing once in a lifetime, once in one hundred years,
once in a thousand years.

Speaker 23 (02:54:43):
At this point, it's not anymore. It's just where we
are with the climate and the environment.

Speaker 66 (02:54:50):
Oh, that's, as we like to say, our side of it,
the science side of it. This is exactly what was predicted.
It's very difficult to tie anyone whether event to climate change,
but he will. However, the warm weather events are actually
easier to tie to climate change. And so the other
problem that happened in the Hill Country in Texas is

(02:55:11):
this business of the Falcone escarpment where the air mask
got lifted so it spread out and the rain came
down even faster.

Speaker 12 (02:55:21):
But it'll happen again. That's kind of your point, Yeah,
because it's happened throughout history. Numb skull. Anyway, then they
dusted off Michael Mann in.

Speaker 23 (02:55:29):
The last week we've ticked off. We did this at
the top of the show.

Speaker 67 (02:55:32):
At least four mass flooding events that our climate unit
here describe as one thousand year flood events. So when
you look at that and the very smart questions that
were just raised by Lewis, tell us what is going
on here?

Speaker 68 (02:55:50):
Yeah, there's no question that climate change is an exacerbating
factor here. Yes, there are a whole bunch of things
that came together, but climate change has made these events worse.
It's made them more deadly, and at some level, it's
actually really simple.

Speaker 12 (02:56:04):
Yeah, it's simple that you're a fraudster. That's what this is.

Speaker 11 (02:56:08):
The guy that invented the bogus hockey stick hoax. Anyway,
we got to go, we're out of time. Thanks for
joining us, Thanks Vicky, God bless you folks, and we'll
talk to you soon.

Speaker 12 (02:56:19):
Thank you. There, yep, bye bye

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