Govern America | May 31, 2025 | Assassin's Maces - Govern America

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new world.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment disease. The kaleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Us, a new world order, a world where the United
Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Nevertheless, United States it in a key position to shape
is so that the problem of the pot rensidentity will
be the emergence of a new international order.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
Theirst decade of the twenty first century, that out of
what is will be feared, the greatest restructuring of the
global economy, greatest restructuring of the global economy, greatest restructuring
of the global economy, a new world order was created.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
Documents allow rebel.

Speaker 8 (00:58):
The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and
open society. And we are as a people inherently and
historically opposed to secret societies, the secret oaths and a
secret proceedings.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
Pleasing war on the new world order.

Speaker 9 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 10 (01:17):
We must guard again the acquisition of unwanted influence, whether
sought or unsought, by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 7 (01:27):
This is govern America, Flick, Darren Whets, and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 11 (01:41):
We are going to be imposing a twenty five percent increase.
We're going to bring it from twenty five percent to
fifty percent the tariffs on steel into the United States
of America, which will even further secure to steal in
US in the United States. Nobody's going to get around that.

Speaker 12 (02:03):
From people regions five and ten. This is governed America.
That was the president yesterday, This is the thirty first
of May twenty five, and he was announcing that he's
raising tariffs to fifty percent on steel currently or formally
at twenty five percent, so another twenty five percent to
make it fifty and as you heard, he says that

(02:26):
that will solidify the US position on steel. I can't
say that I disagree with that action. I think that's
probably a good thing to do. We've been calling for
terrifs for years. There needs to be some sort of
stability though in you know, tariff activity. I think that

(02:49):
markets are unable to adjust with constant up and down,
up and down and back and forth. So hopefully this
thing will stabilize in the coming days. But I think
that the application of tariffs is very important, and this
is what has led to the The lack of tariffs
has led to the outsourcing of our jobs to foreign

(03:12):
countries around the world. It's been a global race to
the bottom. So this is something that needs to happen.

Speaker 13 (03:18):
I have to say, I don't give a damn about
the markets.

Speaker 12 (03:23):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 13 (03:23):
I'd like to see them thrashed until they crash and
never come back.

Speaker 12 (03:30):
Well, a lot of people are worried about their retirement plan.
You know, if you're near retirement, it's kind of important
for you to have that sort of thing, especially if
you're heavily invested in volatile things. You know that it
being stabilized, so I could see that, But yeah, I

(03:50):
agree long term, you know, I think the country needs
to be willing to absorb some pain to get things righted,
and hopefully that's the goal. I know that there's a
lot of debate right now between you know, whether Trump
is really genuinely trying to do the right thing for
our country or whether he's a secret agent. And I

(04:11):
think the argument could be very well be made either way.
I see a lot of things there to not trust
with Trump administration. And we've talked about this ad nauseum
over and over again. Lots of things going on with
regard to the administration, and we can talk about that,

(04:33):
but I wanted to touch upon that tariff thing because that
just happened yesterday fresh off the press. Another thing that's happening.
You know, a lot has been going on with regard
to the illegal aliens, and California is in the middle
of a situation where it's just amazing to me that
the Democrats are wanting to make it to where illegals

(04:57):
can vote. Now in California, the literally a bill, Assembly
Bill nine thirty, which if it clears the Senate and
is signed by the governor, it would potentially allow illegal
aliens and other non citizens to count to count election ballots.
A somebly member to Mayo is, this is Assembly Member

(05:18):
Demyo on the floor of the Assembly and he was
talking about this particular measure. Assembly Member Demyo, you were recognized.

Speaker 9 (05:29):
Mister speaker.

Speaker 14 (05:29):
I rise in strong opposition to AB nine thirty. It
does not modernize the way people vote. It adds the
ability for non citizens to serve as recount board members.
I'm not sure why a non citizen should have any
business serving on a board overseeing a US election. That's
not how people vote in America. I don't know where

(05:52):
you hang out, but it's not where people vote. How
most people vote that I talk to on both sides
of the aisle.

Speaker 12 (05:58):
So what do you think of that? More insanity from California.

Speaker 13 (06:03):
It goes to what I was talking about before we
started the program, which is that I've been going back
over my old research and rereading things that I found
and basically the beginning, probably even before the Clinton administration,

(06:27):
but the idea was to turn US was and is
to turn us into like a European organization where you
have a management structure sitting over the top of your
elected representative governments, basically trying to steal our country out

(06:53):
from under US. And they did that with the NAFTA agreement,
with the Lapause Treaty, the Canada Free Trade Agreement and
then the NAFTA Agreement, and then you know, they created
the World Trade Organization. But it basically puts a management

(07:15):
structure over the top of our three countries, Mexico, with
the US and Canada. The same way that the European
Union was created.

Speaker 12 (07:26):
Yeah. Sorry, I was busy trying to figure out how
to get RBN to connect. There's a problem there apparently
with their connection connection today.

Speaker 13 (07:37):
I wonder if it has to do with my connecting first.

Speaker 12 (07:42):
No, no, it has nothing to do with that. I
don't know. Something really weird happened with Zoom. Everything has
been going on fine with that service, but this morning
I noticed that all of my I normally log in
in my all of my meeting are right there. So
I just click on it and connect. For some reason,

(08:05):
I had to go looking for it, and then I
was able to join. But for some reason, I don't
see them. Oh there they are, Okay, So I don't
know what it was. I see them on the screen now,
So we'll resume live radio. Ladies and gentlemen. You just
gotta love technology when it works. It kind of stinks

(08:29):
when it doesn't. However, anyway, you know a big controversy
now we have four Biden staffers that have lawyered up
and what it's a growing scandal over who was actually
running the country during the Biden administration. Now this is
important because they're saying that they're admitting that there was
a shadow government in place. Now I think there was. Ah,

(08:50):
there's been a shadow government in place for most of
our lives, really maybe all of our lives. But the
Biden administration, the minute stration officials because of his mental
state that's in decline. There was an actual shadow government
within the administration itself that more on the surface level,

(09:12):
I would say, And they were signing executive orders apparently
without the president's even knowledge or consent.

Speaker 15 (09:19):
For Biden's staffers have until the end of the day
Thursday to respond to the House Oversights Committee's request for
an interview and its investigation over former President Joe Biden's
use of the autopen, and now the head of that
committee says he's open to bringing in Biden himself to testify.
There could soon be movement in the House investigation into

(09:41):
Biden's use of the autopin, a device which replicates a
person's signature. House Oversite Committee chairman James Comer saying the
investigation will look into whether Biden staffers were using an
autopen to sign executive orders and pardons the President handed
out before leaving the White White House without the president's knowledge.

(10:03):
The investigation centers around Biden's cognitive abilities, with Comer suggesting
a cover up from within the White House over his
mental and physical condition. The Biden White House has denied
the allegations. First to receive requests for an interview were
four Biden's staffers, described by Comer as largely behind the scenes,

(10:23):
people who he claims could have been serving as de
facto presidents. A former director of the Domestic Policy Council,
a former assistant to Biden, a former senior advisor to
the First Lady Jill Biden, and a former deputy director
of operations. Comer also sent a letter to Biden's physician,
Kevin O'Connor. According to the latest information as of this recording,

(10:49):
lawyers for the four staffers have responded to the House Committee,
but have not scheduled interviews. Comer says they have not
received any response from O'Connor, but also told News Wednesday
subpoenas will be sent if interviews are not voluntarily set up.

Speaker 16 (11:06):
So what I can tell you tonight is the four
staffers that we've asked to come in for transcribed interviews,
they have all loggered up. They are taking this very
seriously and this is going to be a battle to
get to the truth.

Speaker 15 (11:19):
Comer also told Hannity he would love to ask Biden questions,
also saying it's a much larger task to bring in
former presidents, noting the last Congress tried to get President
Trump to testify.

Speaker 16 (11:32):
And look, I would love to ask Joe Biden a
lot of questions, but right now we're starting with the
staffers who are operating the autopan. We're going to bring
the physician, doctor o'connory in because he definitely was not
telling the truth about Joe Biden's health.

Speaker 15 (11:45):
A slew of new books being released have a similar theme,
largely anonymous Biden White House insiders suggesting there was some
form of a cover up of Biden's mental fitness. According
to a new book by CNN to Jake.

Speaker 12 (11:58):
Tapper, who helped in that cover up.

Speaker 15 (12:01):
One person who is said to be familiar with the
internal dynamic at the White House said five people were
running the country and Joe Biden was at best a
senior member of the board. This week, Tapper told Piers
Morgan that Biden Whitehouse staffers hiding his condition could be
even worse than Watergate.

Speaker 17 (12:21):
It is a scandal, yes, it is.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
It is it is.

Speaker 16 (12:25):
It is, without question, and maybe even worse than Watergate
in some way.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Right.

Speaker 15 (12:29):
These same four staffers were previously asked to testify last
year regarding the same investigation, along with Biden's doctor. The
comer says the White House denying Congress access to the staffers,
denying any claims Biden was in a cognitive decline or
that there was misuse of the auto pen. Comer says
the committee will issue subpoenas next for those who received

(12:52):
requests for interviews, and that future requests could be sent
to others in the Biden White House soon.

Speaker 12 (12:58):
I don't see this going anywhere because the problem is
it's very important, It is very important. But the problem
is a matter of proof, you know, And even if
they got Biden to testify, would the guy even remember anything,
even if he was trying to tell.

Speaker 13 (13:18):
The truth testify? You know, people that have dementia like that,
you can't do anything with them.

Speaker 12 (13:29):
I mean, I.

Speaker 13 (13:31):
Spent a little bit of time trying to babysit somebody
who had dementia, and it's really really difficult.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (13:40):
Well, they're openly telling us now that a shadow government
was running the country. Now as I was saying earlier,
I believe some form of shadow government has been running
the country, our entire lives. Well, let's start with the
federal reserve system. I mean, that's a pretty much a
shadow government, isn't it. Do you think elected officials can
engage in sound fiscal policy as long as they have
the private bankers hanging over their head, could crash the

(14:04):
economy at will? Yeah, And then of course, remember what
Chuck Schumer said.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
You take on the intelligence community.

Speaker 18 (14:10):
They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.

Speaker 12 (14:13):
There you go, there's your shadow government. So hey, we
already have a call on the line. Let me go
ahead and go out to California and take this call
six ten six hundred seventeen seventy six, six ten, six
hundred seventeen seventy six or toll free eight four four
six four six eight three seven six. Uh, California, You're
on the air. Go ahead, please, Hi.

Speaker 19 (14:36):
Good morning. Hey is Cynthians in California?

Speaker 20 (14:39):
Hi?

Speaker 19 (14:39):
There, you know Rby's own James Fetzer is known for
outing false flags and frauds, and at the twenty twenty
the second presidential debate he spotted that there was a
fraud that was not Joe Biden. Zimbls Joe Biden, but
it was.

Speaker 21 (14:57):
Not Joe Biden.

Speaker 19 (14:59):
Key physical indicators plus some other psychosocial interactions with his wife. Yeah,
So he wrote a letter to the FBI about this issue,
and FBI never responded, andfest Professor Fesser maintains to this
day that Joe Biden died in twenty seventeen according to

(15:23):
family witnesses, and they decided to just continue the fraud
because it was such a lucrative Yeah.

Speaker 12 (15:31):
The problem with whenever you start down that road, there's
a lot of people are going to listen to that
and just say it's a bunch of crack poker, crack pottery.
You know, I've seen photos of you know that people
offer as quote unquote evidence of that. Photos can be doctored.
I don't know what to make of this. You know,

(15:53):
there's a lot of people that say things like that,
and I don't know. I I'm skeptical understanding what's that.

Speaker 19 (16:06):
Most of them do not have Professor James Fetcher's standing.

Speaker 12 (16:11):
Yeah, well, he's good at the network. He's architectures and
you know, the temperature that steel melts and things like that.

Speaker 19 (16:23):
But yeah, more history of science. Uh huh, Well, you
know that's an important is being so much science has
been held back?

Speaker 12 (16:34):
Yeah, can, I can.

Speaker 19 (16:36):
Some of the presidential actions lately are highly suspicious for
not being constitutional. For example, our president can't put us
into the age to the World Health Organizational Order. Withdraw
us requires the advice and consent of the Senate. The
Senate has to go through the procedure of withdrawing us

(16:58):
from treaties, and that particular treat and pairs our sovereignty
and was not constitutional to begin with.

Speaker 12 (17:06):
Well, and I've been making that case, that same argument
about his withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord, because supposedly
he withdrew us from the Paris Climate Accord. Technically we
were never in it because it was never ratified by
the Senate in the first place. But assuming we were
in the Senate or in the treaty or agreement or

(17:30):
whatever they want to call it, he wouldn't have the
ability to unilaterally pull us out either. And the other
aspect of that, which I've also been talking about repeatedly
ad nauseum, is the fact that cities are really the
ones that are agreeing to implement the treaty in the
first place. So if you pulled us off out in

(17:50):
the national level, you're not pulling every city out. And
they're still implementing it. And that's most of the population
in the country are in cities anyway. So these are
the kind of games that they play, and I think
Trump is in fact a part of the games. Now
I can't I can't say that there isn't good things

(18:12):
that happen during this administration, because absolutely there are, but
there's also a underlying thing. Just like we were talking
last week. I don't know if you happen to be
listening or not, we were addressing the carbon pipelines. The
Trump administration is going full throttle, no pun intended, with
the carbon pipelines, and they're facilitating these things the eminent

(18:38):
domain involved. They are actively working to implement these things.
And these these are completely unnecessary. What's that.

Speaker 19 (18:51):
They're steeling it for their underground growing factories.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
It's a money drift, is what it really is. That's
really the only thing to be gained by it is
for a select few people to get rich.

Speaker 19 (19:06):
So what we need are these state legislators to step
up to the plate and object to the fact that
the Senate was wrongfully involved in getting us innocent treaties,
and they need to get us out of the treaties.

Speaker 12 (19:22):
And that's exactly what this effort by the Republicans in Congress.
And it's all in the Big Beautiful Bill. By the way,
this big so called Big Beautiful Bill. We were talking
about it again last week. This is what overrides or
attempts to override state law and come in and say
that they can take imminent domain in your state. I

(19:45):
don't know if they're using the notion of interstate you know,
commerce to get that job done what constitutional grounds are
supposedly doing. But this bill is unless it's been changed,
which I doubt it has last time I checked, the
language is still in there. But the carbon pipelines, it's

(20:06):
an It attempts to override state law as far as
emminent domain issues to take land. Although you know there's
a number of farmers already that are fighting these battles.

Speaker 13 (20:19):
We should be helping them.

Speaker 12 (20:22):
Yeah, I would love to have him on the show. Yeah, well,
if I can get a hold of them. I don't
know what's that.

Speaker 13 (20:31):
I follow a.

Speaker 19 (20:32):
Man called Dr Mobley who has reclaiming the reepublic dot org.
And this week he was addressing the issue that when
the states were enabled, the Enabling Act sets up the
state from a territory. Then the Fed started setting all
the rules in such a way that it was not constitutional,

(20:56):
and or taking assets away from the state as they
gave them state there, they said, well, you've got statehood,
except for the fact that we're requiring you to set
aside land for this issue, in land for this something,
in land for this, and they were taking assets away.
And he compared Utah with how Louisiana was correctly taken

(21:22):
into the Union. But Utah, the state was deprived of
this great salt lake and hundreds of thousands of acreage
for purposes that the federal government said, well, you have
to do this. But Jr. Says, all of the states
have to do is to start a new state convention
and to say well, we're not going to follow those

(21:45):
unconstitutional pre authorization by the federal government. There is simply
not going to do it. We need to look at
all the states. In the Western states, this primarily happened.
They were federally overreaching.

Speaker 22 (22:03):
You know.

Speaker 19 (22:04):
All of this followed President Lincoln in his totally unconstitutional,
disturpation of control over the press. Yeah, putteen thousand members
over the press, kidnapping a member of Congress, shutting down Congress, dismanded, dismantling.

Speaker 12 (22:25):
Yeah, and he's held up as a big American hero.

Speaker 23 (22:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (22:28):
You know.

Speaker 12 (22:29):
The thing about it is is people need to realize
that the states were what created the federal government. It
wasn't the other way around. The states are sovereign, and
I think that the states should bandy together and put
a stop to these federal onslaughts against the federal government.
You know, it's amazing to me how much power has

(22:49):
been ceded to the federal government because the states refused
to stand up. It's like the states created this big monstrosity.
It started off smaller as it basically is in the
process now of killing them, killing their power, killing their sovereignty,
and ultimately killing their citizens.

Speaker 13 (23:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (23:09):
I believe there were a lot of traders at the
state level.

Speaker 24 (23:12):
I agree that the news they were.

Speaker 19 (23:15):
Cooperating and that the average citizen did not realize what
they were up to. Can I ask if we have
some petitions that are called first minute petitions about getting
us out of these treaties and organizations and ending some
of his unconscious behavior. Would your website be willing to
put them on there?

Speaker 12 (23:33):
No, I'll tell you what. Send them to me and
we'll take a look at it. Radio at govern America
dot com.

Speaker 19 (23:41):
Radio at Governmerica dot com.

Speaker 25 (23:44):
Yep, tell you correctly, yep.

Speaker 12 (23:47):
Radio at Governamerica dot com. Absolutely, thank you. Yeah, Hey,
you're welcome. Thanks for calling in, appreciate it. Oh yep,
God bless all right, we're almost up to break time.
In the In the moments prior to the break, we
see Fannie May has partnered with Peter Thiel's Pallenteer Vicky.

(24:10):
They're going to be detecting supposedly mortgage fraud. Supposedly zero head,
says Fanny May. The quasi government financial firm overseen by
the Federal Housing Finance Authority or fh FA, announced a
partnership with defense tech company Pallentteer to detect mortgage fraud

(24:31):
using the firm's proprietary technology, which includes some elements of
artificial intelligence. Just in case they didn't have all of
your infro. You know, this is the thing that more technology.
This is more technocracy, technocracy enforcing the law, technocracy enforcing

(24:52):
human behavior.

Speaker 13 (24:54):
Well, I'm sure you've heard stories about the art of
the intelligence and how they're going to switch it on. Well,
those are programs that go out and capture the data
and analyze the data and then make decisions what to

(25:14):
do about the data. You know. Think of it as
if then else, you know, right, then this condition, then
do that right.

Speaker 12 (25:27):
No, yep, that's pretty much programming language. If this, then
that else, if this then that, uh, you know, and
and it jumps around in the code. Some codes different languages.
Code languages are different in how they approach things. But yeah, absolutely,
and I mean this is the condition. If the condition
is that you're doing something that looks suspicious, then you're

(25:50):
going to be flagged. There goes your social credit score,
there goes your ability to buy, there goes your whole life.

Speaker 13 (25:56):
Fully, they will investigate it before they.

Speaker 12 (26:00):
No, they can't possibly do that. What would be the
point of using AI to do it? Then the whole
point is that wouldn't be efficient to investigate before they implement.

Speaker 13 (26:11):
Well, but you can't. You can't just you know, flag
somebody and destroy their life based on being selected as
a potential candidate.

Speaker 12 (26:25):
You can't.

Speaker 13 (26:26):
Well, that's kind of you know, that's like a preventative defense.

Speaker 12 (26:30):
Have you heard of the do not fly list?

Speaker 13 (26:35):
Yes, yes I have.

Speaker 12 (26:36):
So it seems like they're already doing that in many respects,
and many times you don't even know it. That's the problem.
And there's no no due process, no appeals process. You're
just stuck, you say, absolutely stuck. All right, tell you what,
we got the bottom of the hour brig. We're stuck
by the clock. We got to hit this thing. We'll
be back in a moment. Folks, don't go away.

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This is govern America.

Speaker 12 (31:15):
Welcome back to the broadcast This is Governed America. The
website for the show is Governamerica dot com. My email
address once again is radio at Governamerica dot com. And Vicky,
you want to give your information out please, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (31:30):
My website is The Technocratic Tyranny dot com. The older
website is Channelingreality dot com and my email addresses on
both websites.

Speaker 12 (31:41):
We've been talking earlier before the break about Pallenteer and
the fact that they are now working with mortgage companies
with Fanniemay and they're going to be looking for mortgage fraud.
And we've been talking for years now about technocratic tiers.
What Vicki's website is tech the Technocratic Tyranny dot com

(32:05):
and uh and we've had Patrick Wood on the show
many times in the past. He has been talking about
technocracy and it being a threat to our freedoms and
our individual liberty and really our way of life all
all across the board. Technocracy basically is rule by scientists.

(32:28):
It's rule it's it's it's being controlled by so called experts,
and it is manifested in a rule by algorithm. You're
controlled by the technology. And this is what we're seeing
here with this agreement. Zero Heads says. Under the agreement,
new Mortgage applications will be run through Palenteers technology suite

(32:51):
to uncover fraud before they reach Fannie May, according to
the Housing Giants President and CEO Priscilla Ama de Ver,
who added that the tech would allow the organization to
see patterns quicker quote. We're going to be able to
identify fraud more proactively as opposed to reactively, So in

(33:12):
other words, it sounds like pre crime to me, she
said during a Wednesday press conference. We're going to be
able to understand the fraud and stop it in its tracks.
And I think over time it really becomes a deterrent
for bad actors because we're creating friction in the system
when they do bad things. She recalled an exercise where
Pallanteer's technology was given four actual loan packages to assess,

(33:36):
which scoured reams of paper and identified instances of fraud
within ten seconds, something that would take a human roughly
two months. FHFA director Bill Pulty, who's also the chairman
of the Fanny Made Board, said that the Financial Crimes
Division that monitors both Fanny and Freddie Mack is only

(33:57):
able to root out crime that it gets it's made
aware of, while Vallunteer's red flag approach would tip off
investigators to conduct probes. So there you go. They are
going to be doing reviews. I guess they would otherwise
not have known to launch. So Fanny May has roughly

(34:18):
four point three trillion dollars in assets, making it a
huge target for fraud. So they say, uh, and this
this is all happening. By the way, while Donald Trump
is getting ready to take Fanny May public, they're going
to release it on money May, Yeah, much money. The

(34:40):
announcement comes the day after President Donald Trump says he's
working on taking Fanny May and Freddie mac public. Quote.
I am working on taking these amazing companies public. But
I want to be clear the US government will keep
its implicit guarantees and I will stay strong in my
position on overseeing them as president, your benevolent dictator set.

(35:03):
So there you go.

Speaker 13 (35:05):
Well, I thought that they were public until there was
that mortgage fraud in what year was that about twenty ten?
And then the government stepped in. But I thought they
were always government backed loans, but they were like independent

(35:29):
agencies or something like that. I'll have to look into that,
because do you remember when the government stepped in and
took over Fanny.

Speaker 12 (35:40):
May No, not specifically, Okay, I know that they.

Speaker 13 (35:49):
All have to go back and look at what I
have on that because this.

Speaker 12 (35:52):
Was a public this is currently it's become a public
private partnership.

Speaker 13 (35:57):
Well, what they were doing, they were just packaging up loans,
securitizing loans, and selling them on the stock market. Only
they weren't apparently, they weren't auditing them. They were taking
the word of the mortgage brokers. Yeah, well you had

(36:22):
lots of subprime loans in there.

Speaker 12 (36:24):
Here you have Peter Thiel, the head of Pallanteer, big
donor to the Republican Party, big donor to Donald Trump's campaign,
and he's benefiting from the actions of the administration. So
in that regard, there's no difference between the Republicans and
the Democrats. It's all the same. Whoever's in power makes

(36:46):
the money or you know, it's a quid pro quote
type of situation. So there was just a conference over
in Malaysia, the first ever Asian China GCC pilateral Summit,
which happened earlier this week in Malaysia and the seventeen

(37:09):
nations united on the same table. Peppi Escobar wrote a
piece about this. He says, the seventeen nations united on
the same table in Kuala Lumpur graphically demonstrated, as evoked
by Malaysian Prime Minister and current Asian Anwar Ibrahim, how

(37:30):
from the ancient Silk Road to the vibrant maritime networks
of Southeast Asia to modern trade corridors, our peoples have
long connected through commerce, culture and the sharing of ideas.
Call it the twenty first century New Silk Road spirit,
and it's no wonder. China is right at the heart
via interlocked Belton Road initiative projects bri from infrastructure to

(37:54):
trade development, China, Southeast Asia and a large part of
West Asia do confer to a golden triangle of natural resources,
manufacturing and a large consumer base. The final declaration of
the Malaysian Summit, of course, had to celebrate the enduring
and deep historical and civilizational ties, as well as geoeconomics

(38:17):
and a drive to quote promote economic development in the
wider Asia, Pacific and Mid East old terminology. The correct
one is West Asia, so it's natural that China proposed
the possibility of including the West Asian Arab nations of
the GCC in the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership or RCEEP,

(38:42):
the vast fifteen member trade pact that includes China and
Asian as an ea N but not self excluded India.
Free trade was the key theme in Kuala Lumpur, from
the recent the completed China Asian Free Trade Area three

(39:04):
point zero upgrade to the upcoming China GCC Free Trade
Agreement negotiations. In contrast to Trump two point zero, the
trilateral committed to strengthen the resilience of industrial chains and
supply chains, everything geared towards long term tariff and sanctioned
free sustainable trade. What are we to make of this

(39:28):
as they're trying to group together now as the US
is supposedly decoupling. I don't really think we're going to decouple,
and I don't think we want to decouple, but certain
in the administration says that we're not decoupling for real.
So are they going to challenge us? Are they going

(39:50):
to get stronger? That's certainly what they're trying to do.
You know, this is the problem is all of this stuff.
You know, the globalists would say that when when you withdraw,
they just get stronger and they're going to fill the void.
So how do we meet this challenge of keeping global

(40:11):
power in check so it doesn't overrun us. That's the challenge.

Speaker 13 (40:17):
The smaller nations that join into that, that would be
very foolish because obviously China is going to dominate. Yeah,
and the China dominates, they lose.

Speaker 12 (40:33):
Yeah, the smaller nations lose, you mean, yes, Yeah. The
final declaration was explicit on exploring local currency and cross
border payment cooperation in tandem with promoting high quality bri cooperation,
Belton Road Initiative cooperation and seamless connectivity, including the development
of logistics corridors and digital patterns, and advancing sustainable and

(40:57):
there's that word again, sustainable and infrastructure construction. So isn't
it interesting that China and the Asian countries as they
have this meeting in Asia in Malaysia where they're trying
to where they're talking about sustainable infrastructure. You know, it's

(41:19):
all Agenda twenty one Sustainable Development United Nations stuff. The
Trilateral is engaged in building a web of Pana Asia
connectivity corridors, the prime geoeconomic theme of the twenty first century.
Are you going to say something that.

Speaker 13 (41:35):
You know, I realized some time back that the building
of the transportation systems all over the world, the automated
transportation systems all over the world, that was really started
by the United Nations or it was a part of

(41:56):
the United Nations planning for you know, global governance, even
though they didn't call it that at the time. It
was for trade corridors, and so it's really a continuation
of the United States was leading in that effort. But

(42:22):
then China came on board, and you know, they only
announced it in twenty thirteen, but it started a long
time before that. China. In nineteen ninety three, Vincente Fox
I think it was, or maybe it was Gor Terry

(42:42):
or whatever, he started talking to the Chinese about the
two ports in southern Mexico. I think it's Men's and
Neo or something like that. And Lara Loreno cardeis Hiedo.

(43:03):
I'm just hacking those names, but there are two ports.
And it was about in nineteen ninety three when Mexico
started talking to China about building what ultimately became the
highway from southern Mexico up into Kansas City to the

(43:24):
Kansas City Smart Port.

Speaker 12 (43:25):
Yeah, I remember Hillary Clinton going over to Africa and
talking about a super highway that they were building there too.

Speaker 13 (43:32):
Exactly. Yes, we played the audio on the SHEFS Africa.

Speaker 12 (43:36):
That was when she was Secretary of State. Yeah, this
is a global cookie cutter model, and they're doing it
all over the world. Here we see East Asia historically
is most of all a mosaic of transnational regions linked
by maritime corridors. The first globalization happened where else in Asia,

(43:56):
from the opening of the Transpacific Route thanking the New
World to the Philippines in fifteen eleven to the takeover
of Malaca Malaca, the Great South East Asian Emporium by
the Portuguese in fifteen seventy one. But even before the
Vasco da Gamma era East and Southeast Area Asia Eastern

(44:20):
Sea South Puy Sorry about that, folks, But even before
the Vasco da Gamma era, East and Southeast Asia formed
a relatively integrated economic zone, with ports from Malaca and
Nagaski Nagasaki shining as trade centers crammed with Arab, Chinese,

(44:40):
India and Japanese merchants.

Speaker 13 (44:43):
Huh. Now is something that's really important to understand. The
trick to all of this is in the definition of
a port. We there are about I don't know, thirty
six or thirty seven countries that are landlocked, and so

(45:07):
beginning I think in about nineteen twenty one, the Barcelona
Convention defined that landlocked countries can have ports, but there

(45:27):
has to be a continuous, unbroken route from the ocean
to the inland port of the landlocked country. And that's
exactly what they did to our country. Coming up, you
see our states, Oklahoma being the first one on the list,

(45:51):
is landlocked. They have no connection to the sea. Kansas
was the same way until they built that ordor route
from southern Mexico to Kansas City. But if a commercial
transportation route calls for goods to be delivered to Utah,

(46:16):
say they can come up from southern Mexico, go through
Kansas City and continue traveling on to Utah to Salt
Lake City, let's say, and it is considered a single journey,

(46:36):
an unbroken route. They turned our interstate highway systems into
shipping lanes effectively, yep. And people didn't know that, didn't
realize that. I didn't realize that until I started researching

(46:57):
the highway systems and organization called NASCO, which intended to
be the monitor or you know, the collector of fees.

Speaker 12 (47:11):
The North American Super Corridor Coalition.

Speaker 13 (47:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, yep, I remember it well, the
North American International Trade Partnership. That was an organization of
mayors because there has to be agreement between the port,

(47:36):
the port that begins the journey to the port that
ends the journey for commercial transportation.

Speaker 12 (47:45):
Yeah. Earlier we were talking about the fact that Pallenteers
partners partnering with Fannie May and this is something that
Trump administration was facilitating. I wanted to point this out
small actions in the chat and posted this from the
New Republic. Trump taps Pallenteer to create master database on

(48:06):
every American.

Speaker 13 (48:08):
He already has that. He has that and it's over
in London. See how they lie to us. I mean,
and you know, when I tracked that down, I needed
to get a birth certificate for myself. And whenever I

(48:28):
needed a birth certificate, I would just always drive over
to Boise to where the Office of Vital Statistics was
and I did that and they said, no, you can't
get a birth certificate by just walking in here. You've
got to apply for it. Online. I go, really, I've

(48:50):
got to apply. I've got to put all my information
into a website that's on the internet, some secure situation
that is. So I did that, and in filling out
the form, I my attention was all over the screen.

(49:14):
I was looking at all of it. And when they
asked me to put in my name, I put in
my current name rather than my birth name, and it
found me anyway. It asked me a couple of questions.
And one of the questions that asked, you know, which
one of these places have you not been to? Well,

(49:39):
Florida was on the list, and I have been to Florida,
and so I thought, well, damn, you know, how do
they know that?

Speaker 12 (49:49):
And yeah, that's that's pretty interesting. And that seems to
be the way a lot of these credit checks, do
you know they I think a lot of it has
to do with what you do credit wise, and what
you do spending wise, and what transactions you're engaged in.

Speaker 13 (50:05):
And uh, yeah, that's total information awareness.

Speaker 12 (50:08):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 13 (50:09):
And I did run that whole scenario on the birth certificate.
I ran that to ground and that's when I found
Pallunteer over in London.

Speaker 12 (50:21):
Well they're here, in the US as well. And you know,
just because they have a database there doesn't mean that
they don't want to add more to it.

Speaker 13 (50:30):
Oh, it's all connected. And I traced volunteer going up
to the UN, so I think the UN is actually
maintaining the file.

Speaker 12 (50:45):
I think.

Speaker 13 (50:45):
Didn't we talk about real IDs last week?

Speaker 12 (50:48):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 13 (50:49):
And having the country code on your driver's license.

Speaker 12 (50:54):
Now that I don't know about, Yeah, well I do.
Do they have the country code on there? See I
don't have one, so I don't know.

Speaker 13 (51:03):
Yes, it should when the all I know is they
put a gold star was Washington State when they when
they switched to real ID, they put a country code
on there.

Speaker 12 (51:15):
When when you're growing up and you do well in class,
they give you the gold star. So so now now
that you're an adult and they want you to be
the nice little slave that's compliant, they'll give you a
gold star on your driver's license. You've been thoroughly conditioned.

Speaker 13 (51:31):
People have been reduced to objects. You're not You're not
a human being. You are an object and a computer.

Speaker 12 (51:39):
System and and in the database. The New York Times
reports the President Trump has enlisted the firm Pallunteer his donor,
Peer Teal. They're his company founded by far right billionaire
Peter Teal, to carry out they say, far right this guy.
You know, there's no left and right when you're talking
about these billionaire they don't care. They're above it all.

Speaker 30 (52:03):
They're not.

Speaker 12 (52:04):
You know, it doesn't really matter anyway. He's enlisted down
to carry out tool his March executive order instructing government
agencies to share data with each other. The order has
increased fears that the government is putting together a database
to wield surveillance powers over the American public. Since then,
the administration has been very quiet about these efforts, increasing suspicion. Meanwhile,

(52:28):
Polunteer has taken more than one hundred and thirteen million
dollars in government spending since Trump took office, from both
existing contracts and new ones with the Department of Defense
and Homeland Security. That number is expected to degree.

Speaker 13 (52:42):
I think, God, these people are finally catching.

Speaker 12 (52:45):
On, given that the firm just won a new seven
hundred ninety five million dollar contract with the Department of
Defense last week. Polunteer is speaking with various other agencies
across the federal government, including the Social Security Administration and
the IRS. About buying its technology. According to The Times,

(53:05):
Valenteers Foundry tool, which analyzes and organizes data, is already
being used at the DHS, the Department of Health and
Human Services, and at least two other agencies, allowing the
White House to compile data from different places. The administration's
efforts to compile data began under Elon Musk's Department of
Government Efficiency Initiative. You know Elon Musk and other technical

(53:27):
correct it.

Speaker 13 (53:29):
Do you remember in the early two thousand's, late nineteen
nineties when information came out about Admirable Poindexter's total information awareness. Yes,
they were building the building a total information system at

(53:52):
that point. Congress did try to break that up, but
all the news was in charge of that, I believe.
But all they did was to break up the project
into different agencies. It did not go away.

Speaker 12 (54:09):
No, nothing ever really goes away. But see this, this
latest effort is just another another piece in you know,
another cog in the in the whole machine, you know,
and the whole operation as I see it. You know,
just because it was going on before, it doesn't mean
they they don't take it to another level.

Speaker 13 (54:29):
They never stop building systems.

Speaker 12 (54:31):
No, I agree.

Speaker 13 (54:32):
Once once the system is started, it it's like a cancer.
It just grows and grows and grows. And you know,
I never saw systems as cancers until I started researching
what what what wrong with our country?

Speaker 12 (54:52):
Anyway, we'll have that that article in the show notes
for those that want to take a look at it,
and uh, you'll be able to peruse all of the
show notes, and everything that we talk about is always
listed on the website at Governamerica dot com. In the
show notes, Vicky posters I postmind everything that we talk

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Week American Family News on the Hour, I'm Chad groaning.
A federal court is block President Donald Trump from setting
many of his reciprocal tariffsing as most of the countries
trading partners. Fox's Mark Meredith reports from Washington.

Speaker 32 (59:16):
This decision by the Court of International Trade will block
one of the presidents most widely used executive actions of
his second term. The three judge panel says the president's
actions do not fall under the Emergency Powers Act. The
rulings that certainly further delay ongoing trade talks with countries
like India, China, Japan. The White House says it will appeal.
We heard from a spokesperson overnight who told Fox it

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is not for unelected judges to decide how to properly
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and the administration is committed to using every lever of
executive power to address this crisis and restore American greatness.

Speaker 31 (59:53):
Secretaryciate Michael Rubio says he US will begin revoking the
visas of some Chinese students, including those with connections to
the Communist Chinese Party, are studying in critical fields. In
the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four school year, more
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making up roughly a quarter of all foreign students in
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interviews for international students. Ohio was considering a bill that
would make the month between Mother's Day and Father's Day
natural Family Month if and Steve Jordallo Reportsavilla is getting
the expected pushback.

Speaker 33 (01:00:27):
Ohio House Bill to sixty two would make the month
between the second Sunday in May and the third Sunday
in June. Natural Family Month bill sponsor State Representative Josh
Williams says it's meant to point out and solve a
pressing problem in Ohio and the rest of the country.

Speaker 34 (01:00:42):
So Natural Family Month is to celebrate the family unit
that has the ability to help fight back our declining
birth rates.

Speaker 33 (01:00:50):
The birth rates in both Ohio and the US are
well below the two point one children per mother needed
to keep the country running, and Williams says there are
added benefits to attack families with married moms and dads.

Speaker 34 (01:01:02):
A child that is born in a single parent household
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likelihood of dropping out of school, and has a substantially
higher likelihood of being sent to prison.

Speaker 33 (01:01:16):
But he says the bill is being strongly opposed by
LGBT groups of the state, who say it somehow in
attack on them.

Speaker 34 (01:01:23):
We do not see Pride Month as an attack on
straight individual, straight couples, and natural families. But somehow, as
soon as you try to be inclusive of what for
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An organization is requesting the RS to investigate a top
ranked Virginia high school, defends Chris Woodward has that story.

Speaker 35 (01:01:46):
Defending Education wants the government to look into the activities
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fellow ed Defending Education.

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It looks like the Thomas Jefferson High School benefited from
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but rather passed through to Thomas Jefferson High School in
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Speaker 35 (01:02:39):
Hey, IFN is seeking comment from the high school as
well as the superintendents, Perry hopes to hear from the
IRS within the next few months.

Speaker 36 (01:02:47):
Very long complaint. It's factually dense, but it does provide
a paper trail. I think that the IRS is going
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Guess.

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It was in the famous year of two thousand and
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Last year of George W.

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Bush's reign, and then in two thousand and nine, in
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Yeah, I remember it well in Freddy Mac.

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Yes, and so this is how it works.

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And bankers always look at people and say, you mean
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Back to you.

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Well, now they're talking about bitcoin. I'm seeing a lot
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with bitcoin. There are certain places that are accepting bitcoin
for payment now, and so it looks to me like
everything is going along with the digital currency. You know,
even as they're eliminating the penny, I think the nikka
won't be far behind, you know, the pushes toward a cashless,

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changeless society, reckless society where everything is digital. And again
we come back to track and trace, don't we.

Speaker 37 (01:07:06):
You know, well, yes, with the bitcoin, it will be
far more easier to pull the plug on the economy
than it was before. But let me say this for
the record that I never did believe that that insolvency
in two thousand and eight was because of the home

(01:07:27):
mortgage thing. I think it had more to do with
the international banking community and what do they call it
the Bank of Settlements, and I had friends at Morgan Stanley.
They ran out of cash and they ended up borrowing
from the Chinese. I asked her, I said, I hear
you guys borrowed five billion from Chinese. She said, well,

(01:07:49):
we needed the money. See they didn't get any help
from from the Obama administration at all. But anyway, look
at thanks for taking your call, and I really enjoy
your show.

Speaker 12 (01:08:04):
He appreciate it. Thank you for the call. God bless Yeah.
I'm looking at an article here where David Sachs. The
cryptos are, the White House cryptos are David Sacks, and
he's saying stable coin, the stable coin bill will unlock
trillions for US treasury. So this is something actually. Steve
O'Brien sent this to me. President Donald Trump's top crypto

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and AI advisor, David Sachs, said Wednesday that the administration
expects the stable coin legislation moving through the Senate to
pass with significant bipartisan support, and claimed it could unlock
demand for US treasuries. So yeah, I would I would
think so most things that are a part of the

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overall plan for global enslavement do pass with bipartisan support.

Speaker 13 (01:08:54):
Yeah, they understand what the agenda is, and more importantly,
they know that you don't. Yeah, and so I don't
know why anybody would go along with cryptocurrency. If you
don't toe the line and do what they tell you,

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they will just shut off your electronic bits.

Speaker 12 (01:09:19):
Yeah. Well, the problem is, I don't have a problem
with crypto in the hands of the average person. You know,
they're the digital payment systems and that sort of thing.
If it's in the hands of people. When it's government though,
institutionalizing these technologies and using them, that's where I have

(01:09:40):
a problem. And I think Trump is very actively working
to implement this plan because he can get away with it.
The MAGA crowd trusts him, and there will be minimal
pushback on it. And obviously the media is lap dog.
The media's lap dog. And except for when it comes
to to certain things, you know, then this is the

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whole dialectic in place, the Hegelian dialectic. You know, they're
able to push back, they create their own opposition, They
push back on things that ultimately it's like look over here,
look over here. But the real agenda when it really
should be something that needs to be pushed back on.

(01:10:22):
There there is just complete silence, complete crickets. That's the problem.
I'll tell you what. Let's go back to the phones
six ten, six hundred seventeen seventy six six ten, six
hundred seventeen seventy six or toll free eight four four
six four six eight three seven six. That's a four
four six, govern Kentucky, you're on the air, Go ahead, please,

(01:10:44):
It wasn't Rusty pew.

Speaker 30 (01:10:46):
I like that American Family radio news. You guys do now.
But that top story about the executive orders they overturned
by the court. Typically Tom is the one that has
the I believe legislative authority to I'll return executive orders.

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But Congress loves the president to take the buying for stuff.
So the court's returning an executive order while it's not
the proper procedure, gets Congress up for buying in buying.

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
Yeah, well, a lot of this stuff, yeah, the balance
of powers, and you know a lot of the stuff
that he's doing right now. I think by executive order,
he's doing it so that he can say to his base,
while I tried, knowing full well that it's going to
be overturned. A good example of that is the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting. That executive order was put was signed

(01:11:44):
by Trump, and I think he knew it was going
to be overturned already. There's been a lawsuit by I
think NPR, and I think PBS will be following shortly,
uh where, and I think it will be overturned. And
in fact, in section four or that executive order, if
you go and read it, it actually says if any

(01:12:04):
part of this is overturned, then the rest of it
remains intact. So he's anticipating court challenges, and I think
he's anticipating that it will be overruled by a court.

Speaker 13 (01:12:15):
Yeah, that's a pretty standard clause and contract.

Speaker 12 (01:12:18):
But in contracts, this is not a contract. I've never
seen it in an executive order before.

Speaker 30 (01:12:25):
You're speaking about something that my family's had an intimate
involvement with since nineteen sixty eight. My dad was a
television engineer, and as engineers say, I'm not responsible for
the content, I just make sure the transmitter was so increasingly,
since nineteen sixty eight, the public broadcasting system in the

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evenings after school hours started airing more and more of
the stuff funded by all these different foundations from the
Ford found nation, my Coupeller Fundnation whatever, I don't call it.
So if you look that up, NPR and Corporation for
Public buck Hessing are just barely funded by the federal government.

Speaker 12 (01:13:08):
Yeah, well that's the problem is these big foundations of
their funding there, go ahead.

Speaker 30 (01:13:15):
It's a small amount, it's a minuscule amount. And you
see that with all the underwriting credits that you get
tired of hearing on all these programs, you know, yep,
watch much of that.

Speaker 12 (01:13:26):
And the foundations, Look, whoever pays the bill, folks, they're
the ones that are going to be controlling the programming,
the content exactly. So the foundations what I was getting.
You can say it's well it's government propaganda. Well it's
foundation propaganda because they're the ones picking up the tabs,
you know, and there's a few a few viewers like

(01:13:48):
you and listeners like you. They say, well, let's scroll those.

Speaker 30 (01:13:53):
I've seen that on k E. T can take educational
television and occasionally on NPR. I worked at a pulling
out a half years of the campus full power FM
NPR station. You would hear that, you know, you would
hear the little credits for yours viewers like you and
Kat would scroll. On occasion, they used to I haven't
watching it enough to know, but Buck at midnight or something,

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they'd run five minutes of names, you know, a Sympiana viewer,
you know, or a London viewer, and then sometimes it
would mention, you know, the estate of so and so.
But you know, beyond beyond the foundations and the agenda
venders and the social engineers.

Speaker 12 (01:14:35):
Yeah, you know, if the Republicans and Trump want to
I'm talking about the Republicans in Congress and the Trump
White House wants to really get to the bottom of
what's really behind public media and really a lot of
the problems in our country from start to finish, Why
don't they get deeper into investigating these foundations that you're

(01:14:59):
talking about. That's really where I got.

Speaker 13 (01:15:02):
To where the Cox Reese Committee here and started in
the nineteen fifties exactly.

Speaker 30 (01:15:10):
The foreign the foreign influence of Congress is another big
one that makes us irrelevant as subject human resource residiens
of the US government.

Speaker 13 (01:15:20):
So you know, that's really why I started looking at
China because it was announced that a delegation of twenty
three Chinese people were coming to Meridian, Idaho to look

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at investing through the EB five visa program. And then
shortly after that, Governor butch Otter took a bunch of
businessmen on a trade mission to China in here. Yeah,

(01:16:01):
I thought, what the heck is this about.

Speaker 12 (01:16:04):
Jennifer Granholm did the same thing. I remember the wealthy
Chinese investors. NBC Los Angeles reported these wealthy Chinese investors
are you know? They were going around California major cities
looking for things to quote unquote invest in. And then
I remember about that time the Empire State Building turned
the lights gold and red in honor of malse tongue,

(01:16:29):
you know, the Males Revolution, and we're like, what in
the world is going on here?

Speaker 37 (01:16:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:16:36):
I remember that.

Speaker 30 (01:16:39):
I always thought that was a funny homonym or something
mousey tune, like you've got the tongue of a mouse.

Speaker 9 (01:16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:16:49):
Anyway, you mentioned the software suite that Trump and Elon
Musk apparently are heavily invested in. Pounds here. Just read
something last night about the Golden Dome. Uh yeah, need
to have pounds here and a bunch of others participating
in that.

Speaker 12 (01:17:08):
Interesting Probably just like Star Wars.

Speaker 30 (01:17:12):
The Russians almost immediately developed all these counter technologies like
putting reflective coatings on the warheads, making them electromagnetic pulse resistance,
and spinning them to diffuse any directed energy weapons.

Speaker 7 (01:17:29):
So it'd be.

Speaker 30 (01:17:30):
Easy software, uh.

Speaker 25 (01:17:33):
Fix or trick.

Speaker 30 (01:17:37):
If something from orbit knocks a ballistic missile off trajectory,
then you would simply go ahead and explode the warhead
at maybe three hundred miles above the US. You wipe
out the electrical grid and everybody's cars.

Speaker 12 (01:17:53):
Yeah, so yeah, it's going to be interesting. We're going
to be talking with William Question on the show here, yes,
in a little while, and it's noticed.

Speaker 30 (01:18:04):
I noticed you plugging that, so I just thought we'd
I'd bring it back to that topic. Maybe you can
ask him about the practical survivability of an e MP
pulse at three hundred miles.

Speaker 12 (01:18:14):
Well, yeah, I would be very interested in knowing, you know,
and what what can we do? Is there anything really
that we can do, uh to safeguard against it?

Speaker 30 (01:18:23):
People have maintained they're like the Scout camp that I
grew up going to. One of those guys restored a
deuce in the half I think it's called, and it
would run on, it would run on cooking oil had
no glow plugs. You just simply had to get the
engine to turn over. So if you parked it on
a hill, popped it in the second gear, broom, take

(01:18:44):
it off and you are charging a battery, you know,
unless the E M P you know, messes with your
uh you know, diodes in your in your alternator or whatever. Yeah,
but you know, uh the uh they are supposed some coils.

Speaker 12 (01:19:01):
You can get the Paraday cage stuff. Yeah, it'll be
interesting to know to what degree our power grid has
been hardened, because this is not a new problem. By
the way, they've been aware of this for many, many years.

Speaker 30 (01:19:15):
As the snowed and leaks revealed yet again, which I
first read in British media in nineteen ninety eight on
the Internet from London Guardian or whatever. Our own government
has hacked so called friendly countries, planting malware into France, Germany, whatever,
Japan to take down the electric grid, and China was

(01:19:37):
said to have done that in the late nineties. Oh,
it's hard to know what offswitches are out there, just
waiting for some you know, dark web hacker to get
a hold of and cause some havoc to demonstrate that
how vulnerable the infrastructure is beyond that high powered rifles.

Speaker 25 (01:19:54):
I saw G.

Speaker 38 (01:19:54):
Gordon Lydy in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 30 (01:19:56):
At Martin State University. He was on the lecture circuit
after got out of jail, and you know, twenty thousand
dollars a speech or something. Anyway, he said, with what
he learned being on the National Security Council, in an
afternoon of the high parted rifle, he could take out
the electrical grid in the easter United States. Wow, that
much has changed. Yes, the only thing that's changed and

(01:20:17):
they're still is as I have looked it up. I'm
going to look it up again now. And I'm thinking
about unsolved crime and sell in California that almost caused
the nuclear reactor to scram or somebody used the high
powered rifle to shoot some major transformers at a substation.
But before they did that, they cut the telemetry so

(01:20:38):
that the network cables that would alert the power regulator.
Hey there's something wrong with the substation or cut that's
an unsolved that's an unsolved crime. Nobody knows who did
that yet.

Speaker 12 (01:20:53):
Yeah, that's interesting. I remember that story ten years ago.

Speaker 30 (01:20:56):
Ye got ten years ago or something.

Speaker 12 (01:20:59):
Yeah, it's interesting. Lot of these things happen, and they
come and go and you don't even realize unless you
just happen to make a conscious effort to circle back,
you know, do the old Jensaki on it and things.
They are thrown at us so fast. Often they get
fallen by the wayside and we don't really know whatever
came of it, if anything. Hey, I appreciate the call.

(01:21:20):
Great points, blessings to you. Let's move on and go
to Georgia. Now, hello, you're on the air.

Speaker 39 (01:21:27):
Go ahead, please, Okay, here's the fun stuff. I just
spent the past little almost an hour and a half
looking for this, and there's a lot here, so please
bear with me. I want to start with a portion
of a letter from seventy environmentalists and conservation groups signed

(01:21:52):
a letter to the committee of this committee would be
the House Energy and Commerce Committee, specifically to share Brett
Guthrie and Ranking Member Frank Palone the first paragraph, and
I'm willing going to share one paragraph here. We write
to express deep concern with sections four to one zero

(01:22:13):
zero five and section four to one zero zero six
and the recently released Energy and Commerce Reconciliation Package that
would for the first time extend federal pipeline routing and
eminent domain jurisdiction over carbon dioxide, hydrogen, crude oil, petroleum products,
and liquefied natural gas infrastructure. It would also allow pipe

(01:22:35):
allow pipeline companies to elect to fast track federal permitting.
This is the part of the section four to one
zero zero five, which is entitled Expedited Permitting. This is
part of the Big Beautiful Bill force completion of all
federal permits within one year unless extended to eighteen months,

(01:22:58):
but if they failed to do so for any REA,
their permits would be automatically granted in perpetuity. These measures
would radically expand federal jurisdiction over all types of interstate pipelines,
drastically limiting public input, shortened environmental review timelines, and shields
projects from legal challenges, all while clearing the way for

(01:23:21):
expanded use of federal eminent domain against landowners. This part
right here that I just read about the federal eminent
domain is referring to section four to one zero zero
six entitled Carbon Dioxide, Hydrogen and Petroleum Pipeline Permitting, and
it reads as follows. Section seven A B pub Application

(01:23:45):
and f any person may submit to the Commission. This
would be the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. An application for
a license authorizing the whole or any part of the operations, title, service, construction, tension,
or acquisition of a covered pipeline, which applications shall be
made in the same manner as and in accordance with

(01:24:08):
the requirements for an application for a certificate of public
conveyance and necessity under Section seventy, and a fee in
the amount of ten million dollars for the consideration of
such application. But what's interesting is Part D of this section,
which is called the effective license, and this is what

(01:24:31):
cuts to the heart of the eminent domain issue. Notwithstanding
any other provision of law. If the Commission, again this
is the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. If the Commission issues
a license under subsection C one of this section, and
the license is in compliance with such license, no requirement

(01:24:55):
of state or local law that requires approval of the
location of the covered pipeline with respect to the license
is issued may be enforced against the license.

Speaker 12 (01:25:05):
There you go, and no no law or regulation.

Speaker 39 (01:25:11):
May be enforced against the license. There you go, I
said in the last broadcast prior to you coming along,
I said, there this piece of legislation, this big beautiful bill,
is legislative tyranny.

Speaker 9 (01:25:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:25:31):
Yeah, that's not to say that there's not things that
are sovereignty, things that are good. See, what they do
is they mix the good end with the overall big
agenda that they want to accomplish, so everybody can focus
on the good that it does. You know, like banning
transgender surgeries. For instance, Nobody, you know, nobody who has

(01:25:52):
a sane mind wants to have to pay for transgender surgeries. Okay,
so my understanding is that bill banned, which is a
good thing, but it gives the conservatives talking points to
be able to focus on while they're shoving carbon pipelines
and domain down our throats, down the throats of our
farmers and our It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting, all right,

(01:26:19):
And unfortunately we got the break coming up which we'll
have to take and uh Art, I assume you have
some other things you wanted to discuss.

Speaker 7 (01:26:30):
No, I just want to.

Speaker 39 (01:26:31):
I always believe in sharing the actual document for word
what's going on so that people know exactly how, because
I know a lot of people don't want to sit
down and read these bills absolutely. I just spent an
hour and a half. That's why I just spent an
hour and a half going through it so I could
give people the actual piece of legislature.

Speaker 17 (01:26:51):
There you go.

Speaker 39 (01:26:52):
That touches on this issue.

Speaker 12 (01:26:53):
We'll put it in the show notes again. Hey, thank
you for the call. Appreciate it. We'll be back. Folks.

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schistosoma could develop such highly specialized systems, and yet such
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such an organism that can cause such suffering to other creatures,
especially to people.

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Schistosomers shows elements of godly design, and sin cause degeneration.
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Speaker 13 (01:31:03):
This is.

Speaker 42 (01:31:21):
The Senate voted to override California's twenty thirty five electric
vehicle mandate in addition to other emission standards, using their
Congressional Review Act authority. The resolution was already approved by
the House of Representatives and now heads to President Trump
for a final signature. California has a special carve out
in the Clean Air Act, which allows the state to
ask the Environmental Protection Agency for permission to create regulations

(01:31:44):
that are stricter than the federal governments. No other state
can do that, but any state can adopt California's stricter standards.
Carmakers often build vehicles to align with California standards. This way,
they either meet or exceed the rules in every other state.
Republicans in Conger suppose California's regulations that require all new
cars to be zero missions by twenty thirty five and

(01:32:06):
require commercial diesel trucks to reduce their emissions. They use
their majorities to pass resolutions that formally disapprove of the
EPA's decision to grant California a waiver. Republicans said the
transition would be costly, that the country doesn't have the
infrastructure to support it, and they argued it was an
essence the government telling people what cars they're allowed to drive.

Speaker 17 (01:32:26):
For car makers, the consequences are severe if you don't
sell enough electric vehicles, California saying to them and to
the other states that sign on to this. Even when
Americas don't want to buy them. Too bad California with
these people will pay a fine of twenty thousand dollars
per vehicle.

Speaker 42 (01:32:44):
Democrats supported the rules and believed it would help the
entire world move toward greener energy faster.

Speaker 7 (01:32:50):
They proved that if you.

Speaker 16 (01:32:51):
Create the right incentives, and technology will move in that direction,
and it has successfully.

Speaker 42 (01:32:57):
Once President Trump signs the resolution, californnies rules will be repealed.
That's gonna be a big sigh of relief for car
makers because based on the current trajectory, they were way
behind where they needed to be to hit that twenty
thirty five deadline.

Speaker 12 (01:33:10):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America. Yeah,
General Motors was lobbying for that reveal. That's a great thing,
good thing that the Republicans did that because hey, I
don't want California dictating what kind of car I can buy.
You know, if you want to do that for electric
yes they have. Electric vehicles are an inferior product. That's
the bottom line. Electric vehicles are inferior, But if you

(01:33:34):
want to buy one, hey, you should be able to
buy one if that's your choice. But don't force all
gasoline cars off the road under the guise of environmentalism,
because it's a false argument in the first place. Carbon
dioxide is not a pollutant. Ladies and gentlemen now earlier
turning a corner here. Earlier, Mike, who is from Kentucky

(01:33:58):
called in and he talked about having an off switch
the Hill. The Hill dot com reported just such a thing.
China has an off switch for America and we aren't
ready to deal with it. Imagine waking up tomorrow and
your phone has no signal, Your smart home isn't working,
your ring camera is offline. You get in your car,

(01:34:20):
but your GPS won't root. Worse, every traffic light in
town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns
and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to
an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers,
then goes black. It's not just your neighborhood, it's not
just your state. The entire nation has gone dark. This

(01:34:41):
scenario is digital darkness caused by China's off switch for America.
It is the penultimate step in China's strategy to defeat
America before gutting for global control. So called assassins maces
play a central role in China's plan to become the
world's sole superpower by twenty forty nine. Of the many

(01:35:03):
known assassins, mass for demands for demand, immediate attention, and
what do they start with? What we're going to be
talking about here in a few minutes. Tactical electromagnetic pulse weapons.
China develops tactical EMP weapons that can disable entire regions
by targeting civilian infrastructure America relies on to function. These

(01:35:26):
compact pulse generators can hover above unprotected data centers, destroying
electronics inside with pinpoint electro magnetic blasts. Several dozen well
coordinated EMP strikes could wipe out cloud infrastructure, disrupting America's power, transportation, communications,
and financial systems worldwide nationwide. Number two deep sea fiber cuts.

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Over ninety five percent of global Internet traffic travels through
undersea fiber cables. China recently unveiled deep sea cable cutters,
capable of severing cables at extreme depths. Recent disruptions near
Taiwan and the Baltic Sea suggest these tools are already
in use. Cutting a few lines disrupts global communications instantly

(01:36:09):
and fractures US military coordination. Number three Anti satellite weapons.
As America stockpiles low Earth orbit satellites, China expands the
satellite arsenal to include missiles, parasitic satellites, and lasers designed
to disable or destroy orbit orbital assets. In March to
twenty twenty five, the US Space Force reported that Chinese

(01:36:32):
satellites performed aggressive dog fighting maneuvers in orbit. These capabilities
allow China to carry out precise strikes designed to trigger
the dreaded Kessler cascade, a chain reaction of satellite collisions
capable of destroying all low Earth orbit satellites within days,
crippling Internet communications and surveillance systems. Number four cyber attacks.

(01:36:55):
China's cyber weapons are the most deeply embedded assassins. Based
this week US Investigator's uncovered roague communication devices hidden in
Chinese made solar inverters and batteries. I think we talked
about that last week on the show. Such undocumented components
can bypass firewalls, allowing China to remotely monitor, destabilize, and
disable critical infrastructure. Chinese made chips, routers and switches embedded

(01:37:19):
throughout US networks contained dormant firmware that, upon activation, could
place critical US infrastructure under Chinese Communist Command, the Chinese
Armies blended domains philosophies, strips traditional boundaries between war and peace,
and on the present battlefield, erases any line between a
military and civilian enterprise, the doctrine described in Unrestricted Warfare

(01:37:43):
of the nineteen ninety nine book, in which Chinese military
leaders promote the use of psychological, technological and informational attacks
to undermining and subsequently overwhelm America. Under this approach, China
targets power grids, satellites, telecom networks, and data centers to
exploit a US critical US vulnerability. When building digital infrastructure,
we tend to optimize for return on investment, which inversely

(01:38:06):
correlates to premium cost and time to market. As a result,
most of our digital infrastructure, including hyper scaler data centers
where we house quote unquote the cloud, fiber switches, and
Internet service providers networks, aren't designed to withstand deliberate coordinated attacks.
Chinese strategists studied weaknesses in our civilian infrastructure closely, then

(01:38:29):
carefully designed their maces for maximum leverage. China is now
ready to deploy its mass when the moment of shy
or she arrives the point at which they will proceed
to the next step in their stated goal to become
the world's only superpower. Meanwhile, America's digital infrastructure remains dangerously exposed.

(01:38:51):
The article goes on from there. That's the Hill dot
Com highly recommend it. We'll put it in the show
notes as well. In the meantime, this was sent to
me as well. I think this was also Jason in Utah.
How a spyware app compromised Asad's Army. An investigation reveals
how a cyber attack exploited soldier's vulnerability, soldiers vulnerabilities and

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may have changed the course in the Syrian conflict. They
say the Syrian and this is New Lines magazine. The
Syrian armies failure to repel a modest opposition attack and
Aleppo in December, which ultimately culminated in the collapse of
the regime of Bishar al Assad, defies explanation. The opposition's
military strength and its use of drones were contributing factors,

(01:39:39):
no doubt, but they were hardly enough. The Syrian Army
had previously reclaimed vast swaths of territory from rebel forces.
By the summer of twenty twenty four, Assad's government controlled
two thirds of the country. The sudden unraveling and the
conventional explanations behind it belie what unfolded beneath the surface
of the military event itself the in previous interviews. In

(01:40:04):
a previous interview with the New Lines, a high ranking
Syrian officer who recounted the final days of the regime's
existence disclosed a revealing detail that I decided this person
rights to spend some time pursuing A closer examination revealed
it to be the key to understanding the regime's collapse
from a different angle, not merely as a logistical or

(01:40:24):
battlefield failure, but as a result of a silent, invisible war.
The snippet of information was this a mobile application distributed
quietly among Syrian officers via a telegram channel, had spread
rapidly in their ranks. In truth, the app was a
carefully planted trap, the opening salvo of a hidden cyber war,

(01:40:47):
perhaps one of the first of its kind against a
modern army. Militias had weaponized smartphones, turning them into lethal
instruments against a regular military force. Beyond revealing the contours
of a cyber attack against the Syrian army, this investigation
seeks to understand the application itself is technology and reach,
and to uncover the nature of information it siphoned from

(01:41:09):
within military ranks. This in turn leads directly to the
potential impact on Syria's military operations. I won't read the
whole article because it's quite lengthy, but this will be
in the show notes as well, listeners. And this is
a warning to the West because if this can be
utilized by Western powers, certainly this can be utilized by

(01:41:30):
China against Western powers, and that is exactly what I
believe they plan on doing. You know, these are dangerous
times with all this technology and it's unabated. We certainly,
well we didn't, but certainly those that are supposedly the

(01:41:50):
elected officials for the American people through caution to the win,
giving China everything, control over everything. And now those chickens
have sadly come home to roost, or they will very
soon unfortunately, if something drastic is it done to reverse course.
Now I have.

Speaker 13 (01:42:10):
Information that I think is related to that, but I
haven't really put it into an article, but it was
a company called bDNA and it was headed up by
a guy named Ahmit.

Speaker 12 (01:42:30):
Golan.

Speaker 13 (01:42:31):
I believe it is and I don't know whether he
was Israeli or you know, one of the Saudi companies,
but they were partnered with a Chinese company and what
they were able to do was to traverse the electrical

(01:42:53):
lines to find computers attached or computers that were plugged in.
And I think it was Oklahoma. A friend of mine
in Oklahoma actually sent me the information on it and

(01:43:15):
they were considering contracting with this company to find all
of the computers that were on their network. Because a state,
you know, unless a state system is really on the ball,
you know, keeping track of the computers and where they

(01:43:37):
are and who has them, and you know what software
updates they've had or not had. It's easy to lose
hardware in a big organization. Yeah, and so I do
think that's related to what you are just rereading.

Speaker 12 (01:44:01):
There, absolutely, you know, And what's said about it is
we're the more we UH participate in the global system.
You know, so much is being done today and in
terms of under the guise of social justice that people
have actually lost their mind. I'm just astounded. You know,

(01:44:22):
we have now the United Nations uh A u N
treaty that's promoting child porn under the guise of what
trying to free children from child predators, So their proportioned to.

Speaker 13 (01:44:40):
To go after children.

Speaker 12 (01:44:42):
Yeah, this is a report from zenit dot org. But
they they it's actually they're carrying this sent from on
behalf of Center for Family and Human Rights. Uh, this
just came out about a week ago. A new U
n treaty to combat cyber crimes would allow predators and
tech giants to profit from the sexual exploitation of children,

(01:45:06):
including through images using images created using AI. These new
threats are emerging while the United Nations launches a new
treaty to address cybercrime, but the new treaty only addresses
some of the threats from sexual exploitation. While the new
treaty calls for criminalizing non consensual sharing of intimate pictures,

(01:45:29):
it still allows for a broad swath of sexualized content
involving children. For instance, while the treaty criminalizes what is
newly called child sexual abuse material, this term refers narrowly
to images of real children. The new term allows for
childborn created through artificial intelligence. As is now widely known,

(01:45:53):
AI images are shockingly real. While I will stop here
and say that AI images listening, they're not they're they're not.
Not only are they shockingly real AI images, while they
may be false, they are created from real images. Any
any artificial intelligence image, those those models, those AI models

(01:46:20):
learn from real images. You have to feed it real
images for it to know what to spit back at
you if you query something. So if you go to
an AI image generator and put in Trump, for instance,
it's had to learn what Trump looks like from real
images of Donald Trump. So anything that you're getting out

(01:46:44):
of that has been put there by real images. This
is just monstrous, they say. Such images, soon to be
allowed by UN treaty would still be in violation of
US federal law. Specifically, in several sections. The U New
UN Treaty allows countries to decriminalize virtual child pornography in

(01:47:05):
all circumstances, as well as private sexting by minors, even
to adults. The General Assembly adopted the treaty on December
twenty fourth to twenty twenty four. Now countries must sign
and ratify it before it goes into force. A signing
ceremony for the new Treaty will take place at a
summit in July in Hanoi. Very appropriate Communist Hanoi The

(01:47:30):
treaty will enter into force after forty countries ratify it.
Supporters of the treaty argue that legalizing sexting is compassionate
because adolescents have the right to sexual expression. Really, where
where do they have the right to sexual expression?

Speaker 13 (01:47:47):
Now?

Speaker 12 (01:47:47):
Adolescents have the right to be protected from predator adults, listeners.
That's what they should be protected from. That's the right.
They do have the right to not be prayed upon.

Speaker 13 (01:48:00):
Yeah. Do you remember in the nineteen nineties, Ruth Bader
Ginsburg's husband was involved with an organization called the Man
Boy Love Association.

Speaker 12 (01:48:15):
Yeah, vaguely, yep, Yeah, okay, do you remember that?

Speaker 13 (01:48:19):
Yeah, And they used her position on the court. I
believe to gain polite society acceptance of deviance as being
well normalizing it.

Speaker 12 (01:48:39):
No, it's a process of desensitization, is what they're trying
to do. It's sick. I hope the people will not
go for this, But given how much they've gone through,
you know, this transgender nonsense. You know, who would have
thought they would have allowed girls to be you know,

(01:49:00):
watched in the locker room by by boys, by men
who claim to be girls. This is just unbelievable. So unfortunately,
I'm not very hopeful that the general population will resist
and continue to resist, they say in this article. Some

(01:49:21):
argue that letting pedophiles satisfy their sexual preferences with virtual
material would make it less likely than they would pray
on real children. Well, I disagree with that. It's crap
because every time they arrest as sexual predator listeners, they
have pornography on them. Okay, every rapist that they arrest

(01:49:45):
they have pornography on them. So if that were true,
why would the rapists and the and the predators, whether
they be child predators or predators on a you know,
on adult women or whatever, why would they haveography on them. No,
it feed. They feed their lusts with this material. And

(01:50:07):
for a certain segment, I'm not saying everybody that looks
at pornography is going to go become a predator. I'm
not saying that. But for a certain segment, they don't
have that little thing in their head that says, all right,
this is far enough, I'm not going to go any farther.
And they keep searching for something, and they go deeper
and deeper and deeper into the spiral, and then they
want to act out on their fantasies. It feeds the beast.

(01:50:33):
It's like the old black preacher said, inside me, I've
got a white dog and a black dog, representing good
and evil. And those dogs are fighting. And somebody said,
which one is gonna win? He says, whichever one I
feed the most. Okay, that's why the Bible says, whatever
things are good, whatever things are a pure dwell on

(01:50:55):
these things. Keep your mind out of the gutter, because
whatever dog, whatever beast you feed the most, that's the
one that's going to win. Folks. And they're trying to
legitimize child pornography now. They say that dropping the term
child pornography is necessary to avoid revictimizing those who have

(01:51:17):
been exploited. Revictimizing those who have been exploited. How about
the children that have been exploited in the child pornography
redefining terms to make it legitimate? Are you out of
your freaking mind? They call this part of the of
a trauma informed or in harm reduction approach based on

(01:51:40):
new theories and behavioral therapy. Regardless of the you know what,
forget your behavioral therapy. How about you line them up
all up against the wall and shoot them, shoot them
all in the head.

Speaker 13 (01:51:53):
You know what.

Speaker 12 (01:51:54):
That's the one thing that I would advocate for all
of these child predators. They're, in my opinion, there is
no redemption for child predation, and you could never trust them.

Speaker 13 (01:52:07):
I think that that's true, even you know that's your belief,
but I do believe that that is scientifically true.

Speaker 12 (01:52:17):
Anybody that would go.

Speaker 13 (01:52:18):
There devians that can't be cured.

Speaker 12 (01:52:21):
Yeah, anybody that would go there is just absolutely uh
evil And there's no other way, no other word for it.
If you don't think there's good and evil in the world,
look at these people trying to make this okay. Look
at the people that coin the phrase minor attracted persons

(01:52:42):
are gosh, I got I gotta take a break for this.
I'm getting sick. Let's go to the phones down Texas. Hello,
you're on the air.

Speaker 22 (01:52:52):
Go ahead, please, Yeah, Hello, dernn Vicky. This all in Texas.

Speaker 33 (01:52:58):
Hi.

Speaker 22 (01:52:58):
Hey, Hi, it's just what you're here. Just so happens
that in our local paper here, this came out this week.
Get a load of this, just what you were talking about.
Daniel roll Hink sixty four will serve two concurrent five
year sentences in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice System
for online citation solicitation of a minor inducing authorizing sexual
performance of a child who was fourteen years old. According

(01:53:19):
to court records, the incidents took place online and there
was no physical contact. According to the Collin County District
Attorney's Office, this guy, the former senior special agent at
US Secret Service, graduated from Fredericksburg High School and was
in youth ministry in Gillespie County. Oh wow, it's in
your little community, two folks, wherever the hell you are.

Speaker 12 (01:53:40):
Wow, that's just I'm speechless. I'm really speechlesser that you
brought that.

Speaker 22 (01:53:47):
Up, you know, and I am simply because this one
was online and no physical contact. This guy's sixty four.
How long do you think this bastard's been doing this crap?

Speaker 12 (01:53:56):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 22 (01:53:57):
I'm sure there has been some physical contact. Anyway, I'll
let you go with that. Just wanted to make you
a little more revolting, because.

Speaker 12 (01:54:06):
That's what they do here. Hey, thank you for the car.
I appreciate it you too, by bye.

Speaker 30 (01:54:11):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:54:12):
You know what's interesting is Dan Bongino is now in
the administration now, and he is saying that Epstein killed himself.
He's saying that he's got video to prove it, and
they're going to you know, this was a year ago.
He was saying completely the opposite. Yeah, isn't that an
interesting the reversal.

Speaker 13 (01:54:33):
Yeah, I don't believe it.

Speaker 12 (01:54:34):
I don't I don't believe it either. Gallaine Maxwell, Ghlaiine.
Maxwell's in prison right now and Epstein is undoubtedly in hell.

Speaker 33 (01:54:46):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:54:46):
And these people ran child they did child trafficking, They
trafficked miners, trafficked girls to a list of clients, and
we still don't know where this list of clients is.
Where are these people? Who are they? The only thing
we know about that whole thing is a few a
few people that flew on Epstein's plane. I mean, you

(01:55:09):
know about Prince Andrew. Where are the rest of them?
Why is the current administration protecting these people? Apparently because
we are bond I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:55:22):
Know if it's true or not, but it was saying
that Pam Bondi herself had.

Speaker 12 (01:55:30):
Gotten careful careful. I don't know anything about that, and
you've got to be careful about saying anything like that.
That's uh, we don't know is true or not. But
the point is is that there is some reason why
certain people wants to get into the administration are reversing

(01:55:52):
course and saying certain things that were completely luck folks.
Here's the thing about the Epstein's suicide thing. The cameras failed,
then the video got deleted all by accident. It all
just a tech technical glitch.

Speaker 13 (01:56:10):
You know, now, what a coincident?

Speaker 12 (01:56:12):
Yeah, what a coincidence?

Speaker 9 (01:56:15):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:56:15):
Anyway, we got to take the top of the hour break.
When we come back, we should be visiting with William
forst Gin and talk about EMPs. We'll be back. This
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Speaker 43 (01:59:03):
The White House says Israel has accepted a new US
proposal for a temporary ceasefire and is awaiting response from Hamas.
Here's Fox's Jared Halburn with Moore.

Speaker 44 (01:59:12):
The US negotiating team, led by Special ENVOYE. Steve Whitkoff,
has presented Hamas with a sixty day ceasefire offer that
has the backing of Israeli leaders.

Speaker 15 (01:59:22):
And we hope that a ceasefire and GAZA will take
place so we can return all of the hostages home,
and that's been a priority from this administration from the beginning.

Speaker 44 (01:59:30):
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt would not detail the plan,
but reports suggests Tomas would release ten living hostages and
the remains of others during the sixty day pause. Israel
would release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and pull back forces
to positions before the last ceasefire ended in March at
the White House.

Speaker 45 (01:59:48):
Jared Halburn Fox News, a Canadian Christian educator in pro
Israel activist, says he is concerned that Canada's far left
leader is poised to recognize a Palestinian state.

Speaker 43 (02:00:00):
Afnch Chad Groening with more.

Speaker 31 (02:00:02):
Canada's new Prime minister has made it clear that he
is not Donald Trump when it comes to Israel. Mark
Karney and enraged Israeli Prime Minister of Benjamin at Tanyahoo
went along with the leaders of Britain and France. He
recently signed a memorandum issuing a joint threat of concrete
actions against Israel, including sanctions for conducting new military actions
in Gaza. Than this past Sunday, Canadian authorities allowed radical

(02:00:24):
jihadists to intimidate the peaceful march of fifty six thousand
Jews in downtown Toronto. Doctor Charles McVitie's president of Canada
Christian College. He believe Karney is now poised to take
another step.

Speaker 23 (02:00:36):
Our prime minister last week said he's going to recognize
palis Side as a country, and we're told that he's
going to do that in the next couple of weeks,
so that is if old Jahati because the more terror
they strike, the more they get from our.

Speaker 31 (02:00:55):
Prime Minister McVitie says, they may get the Crown jewel.

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Finding up the little land of Israel that's only thirty
miles wide and little it down to only ten miles wide.
Can you imagine im in the country only ten miles wide?
And that's what Mark Carney is planning to do. Recognize
tallisteins of a country based on three nineteen sixty seven quarters.

Speaker 43 (02:01:25):
A federal appeals court allows President Trump to continue collecting
tariffs under emergency powers law for now as his administration
appeals in order striking down the bulk of his signature
set of economic policies. The Court of Appeals for the
Federal Circuit granted an emergency motion from the Trump administration,
arguing that a halt is critical for the country's national security.

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President Trumps said he has warned Israel to hold off
on striking Iran to give the US more time to
make a nuclear deal with Tehran, but Iranian leaders say
there is no imminent deal. Here's Fox's Jill nato.

Speaker 46 (02:01:58):
A Run's Foreign Minister post X his country is sincere
about a diplomatic agreement that will serve the interests of
all sides, but he said an agreement would have to
fully end all sanctions and uphold Iran's nuclear rights, including enrichment.
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the latest round of talks and Omani mediators said the
two sides made some but not conclusive progress, and more
talks are needed. Multiple administrations have said Iran can't be
allowed to have a nuclear weapon, and President Trump's threatened
airstrikes if a deal isn't reached.

Speaker 43 (02:02:36):
Joel Rosenberg of All Israel News, in an AFR appearance,
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make a deal with a rant. The Texas legislatures passed
a bill calling for a display of the Ten Commandments
in public schools. The Freedom From Religion Foundation and other
groups are already threatening to sue, but former legislator turned
at First liberty attorney Matt Kraus says Texas has nothing

(02:02:57):
to worry about.

Speaker 24 (02:02:58):
We fully expect him to at a gate, but thanks
to the Supreme Court opinions in the last several years.
We feel very confident that the ability to put a
historical and traditional document such as the team Commandments up
in police school classrooms is going to pass constitutional muster.

Speaker 43 (02:03:16):
Louisiana passed a similar law in twenty twenty four. That
issue has also gone to court and is awaiting a
decision from the Fifth.

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This is Governor America with Darrenweek's and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 12 (02:05:04):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governed America, Hour
number three. It continues to be the thirty first of
May twenty twenty five. Earlier we were talking about how
China has an off switch for America. This was the
article in the Hill and it says and we aren't
ready to deal with it, and so we're going to
deal with it this hour for the next thirty minutes
with William Forstin. William Forsten is a best selling author

(02:05:29):
and world renowned military historian. He's been long regarded as
a foremost expert on EMP technology, and his book One
Second After was the first to give readers a realistic
look at an EMP strike and its power to destroy
the entire United States within one second. The book is
now being adapted into a major Hollywood film. Forestin has

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provided guidance to federal, state, and local governments, as well
as private organizations on the potential widespread impact of an
EMP event, and he has traveled extensively across the United
States to address audiences about the critical need for preparedness
and as a big advocate for the proposed US Golden
Dome missile defense shield. His website if you want to

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visit it, I highly recommend doing so. Getting the book
one second after the website is one second after dot
com and William Forstin. Welcome to govern America. It's good
to have you with us.

Speaker 38 (02:06:25):
It's a pleasure to being with you to day afternoon.

Speaker 12 (02:06:27):
Yeah, why don't you? Uh, And Vicky Davis is here
as well. See Hi Vicky.

Speaker 13 (02:06:31):
Hi, I'm really looking forward.

Speaker 12 (02:06:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:06:36):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:06:37):
Can you start by talking a little bit. I think
most people know what an electromagnetic pulse attack is, but
can you uh, can you kind of describe briefly how
detrimental this could be to the American people. I know
you've thought a lot about that.

Speaker 38 (02:06:53):
Sure, let's do a woman in primer on what is
the mp e. MP stands for electro magnetic pulse. It's
created by losting a small nuclear warhead on an ICDM
above the United States. The worst case scenario would be
three on eastern central western United States. When the weapon
is detonated two hundred miles up, it sets up an

(02:07:16):
electrostatic discharge called the Comptant effect, which cascades down to
the Earth's surface. Is drawn to the Earth's surface by
our own magnetic field. When it hits the Earth's surface,
discharge feeds into our electrical grid, shorting off high tension
lines and even power stations. Quite literally, one second after

(02:07:39):
something like this hits, that starts shorting off the power
grid of the United States. And according to Doe study
several years back, if we were hit by this, eighty
percent of our electrical grid would still be offline five
years later. The effects, of course, would be catastrophic for America.

Speaker 9 (02:08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:08:00):
So the big thing that I understand from my reading
about this potential scenario is a lot of the transformers
that we have. There's not a lot of these transformers
standing by I mean not to deal with an event
of that magnitude. Is that correct?

Speaker 38 (02:08:23):
Yeah, you're dead on right. Because another DOE study, this
is about ten years back, pointed at that the electrical
grid of the United States, all the five major grids,
the infrastructure is thirty to forty years old. We're pumping
our electricity on a system going back to the nineteen
seventies nineteen eighties. We don't have replacement parts on hand.

(02:08:47):
Guess where the vast majority of those major transformers.

Speaker 12 (02:08:51):
Are made China?

Speaker 2 (02:08:52):
I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 38 (02:08:56):
The analogy I give there, it would be like on
December eighthnineteen forty one, the President meets wood Is Joint
staff and one one points out, sir, you know all
our aircraft carriers are made in Japan. Another one says yeah,
and all our aircraft and tanks are made in Germany.
We do not have a home based industry anymore. The

(02:09:18):
manufacturer of the supply needed to try and build stockpile
and then put such a system back online. So we're
a loser all the way. The analogy I give there,
it would be like you have a house, but you
don't have an insurance policy on it. America does not
have an insurance policy on its electrical grid. The results catastrophic.

Speaker 12 (02:09:40):
Yeah, now I'm wondering. You cite Department of Energy studies.
I'm wondering. This is obviously a problem they've known about
for a long time. I mean, we've been talking about
here off and on for literally years. So what's been done?
Is there anything that the federal government has been done,

(02:10:02):
has been doing and coupling with the energy companies, the
electrical grid providers to harden the grid against such a
potential attack?

Speaker 9 (02:10:16):
Great question.

Speaker 38 (02:10:18):
Trump's first term, just before he left office, he had
mandated a major review by do D, DOE, E p A,
and others as to what would need to be done
to ameliate such such a catastrophe hitt in America. Well,
the study was never completed because guess what happened on

(02:10:39):
the first day of the Biden administration. They we're canceled.
We spent trillion plus dollars on so called green energy,
but we're not spending anything on the insurance policy for America,
which is prepared against the d you know, an e MP,
both in terms of strategis for defense such as Golden
Dome and and also replacement and repair and hardening of

(02:11:03):
our infrastructure. So we're wide open right now. At least
we started working on Golden Dome. I don't know what
else is being done at this moment with the big
beautiful bill as to whether we're going to be hardening
up for our infrastructure as well.

Speaker 9 (02:11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:11:20):
Would do you think government agencies would fare better than
the rest of us? Is Washington DC just as vulnerable
as say Corporate America or people's private homes.

Speaker 38 (02:11:36):
The federal government? Yeah, I'm not going to have it
to red syndrome moment. Okay, we're not prepared. May I
ask where you're broadcasting from.

Speaker 12 (02:11:48):
I'm Michigan, Southern Michigan.

Speaker 38 (02:11:52):
Okay, Well, what's the major interstate highway nearby?

Speaker 12 (02:11:56):
Ninety four and Interstate ninety four?

Speaker 38 (02:11:59):
Yeah, yeah, imagine on ninety four at five o'clock in
the afternoon, it's ten to twenty percent of the cars
short off. What happens massive gridlock? Can you imagine being
in Washington at five o'clock in the afternoon, one the
grid shuts off and the belt White becomes a traffic jam.
These are the type you have been all across to America.

Speaker 9 (02:12:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:12:22):
Yeah, Well, and how many of these airplanes, which are
covered with electronics now could potentially even fall out of
the sky. I mean, I don't know how far up
into the atmosphere the the EMP could be set off,
but you know planes, if they're flying at thirty thousand feet,
I mean potentially you could see certainly airport. You know,

(02:12:44):
we've seen a lot of outages in electronics at certain
airports lately, and I've wondered if that isn't some sort
of cyber attack, because they said that a lot of
it has to do with fiber optics going down and
what have you. But there's been more than one airport.
It is one in particular, I think it was New Jersey.

(02:13:05):
Several times their electronics have gone out in recent weeks,
and just the chaos that that causes.

Speaker 38 (02:13:11):
Yeah, go ahead, okay, midday, afternoon, any day during the week,
about two thousand commercial aircraft or in the air, let's
say ten percent of them have full electronic failure, which
I think is a fairly low estimate because they're all
driven by computers. Now, So of the two thousand planes,

(02:13:35):
let's say one hundred go down. Can you imagine what
that would be like in the first five minutes.

Speaker 12 (02:13:41):
There would be like bombs. It would be like us
being hit with bombs, only they would be jets with
people on them.

Speaker 38 (02:13:49):
Exactly. The other thing I talk about is what about
nursing homes. Imagine nursing every nursing home in America suddenly
was having electrical failures. How do you pump up, you know,
the emergency supplies. How do you provide oxygen for patients?

(02:14:13):
How do you take care of alzheimer patients? One of
the beepers no longer work, This would be another catastrophe.
So it's a multifaceted between nursing homes, transportation. Well, look
at it this way. Where did your water come from
this morning? Seriously? Where did it come from this morning?

Speaker 12 (02:14:32):
Mine comes from the ground, out of a well, but
certainly there is an electric pump that pumps it.

Speaker 47 (02:14:40):
Well.

Speaker 38 (02:14:40):
Yeah, most people say it came out of my foster.
It's called expectation or a reality. The fossil worked yesterday,
it works today, It's gonna work tomorrow. So what happens
is it's almost like a Maslow's hierarchy of needs. We
lose all our water supplies across the United States instantly,
food supply. Average town has twenty days worth of food

(02:15:01):
on hand, from what's in your refrigerator to what's in
the market, most of it refrigerator that's gone, Amanda control.
How do the police communicate with each other? Bad guy's
going to have a shopping day disease, all of these
different factors, according to two progressional studies of the American population,

(02:15:23):
would die within a year.

Speaker 12 (02:15:26):
Yeah, that's very grimd it's your day going?

Speaker 30 (02:15:28):
Other one?

Speaker 12 (02:15:30):
What's that?

Speaker 25 (02:15:33):
I said?

Speaker 38 (02:15:33):
How's your day going otherwise?

Speaker 12 (02:15:36):
Yeah? Yeah, wouldn't be going very well if that happened.
I can tell you.

Speaker 25 (02:15:40):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:15:41):
So this missile defense system, this Golden Dome, how would
that protect us from a potential emp attack?

Speaker 38 (02:15:52):
Okay, well, let's start with the Israeli system known as
Iron Dome. That is a tactical defense system. One Iran
launched three hundred plus missiles at Israel back earlier in
the year. They shot down all but three. But this
is point defense within a mile or two of where

(02:16:12):
the missile's going to impact. Golden Dome is a strategic
defense system designed to hit missiles thousands of miles out
and two to three hundred miles up in space before
they get over the United States. We absolutely need golden
Dome because without it, we're basically not defendable. Another analogy,

(02:16:36):
it would be like you have a house, but you
don't have an insurance policy on it. America needs an
insurance policy on its infrastructure and that's golden dome.

Speaker 12 (02:16:45):
Now, was this funding in the big beautiful bill that
was in Washington, DC that were waiting to find out
the outcome of.

Speaker 38 (02:16:56):
Yeah, I believe the first twenty five billion has been
allocated for that. And people say a lot of money,
twenty five billion, but look at how much we've wasted.

Speaker 9 (02:17:07):
Look how much.

Speaker 38 (02:17:08):
Doze turned up. Now, it didn't turn up the trillion,
but still within one hundred days they turned up two
hundred billion dollars in waste.

Speaker 12 (02:17:17):
That It always cracks me up when people people are
talking about, you know, the Bible talks about wall under
them that string into nat and swallow a camel. You know,
I found it kind of laughable that they talk about,
you know, oh, we shouldn't be wasting all this money
putting the military on the border, for instance, to protect
our borders. Yet we have paid Ukraine untold billions to

(02:17:41):
protect its border, and so all the money that we're
given away. Certainly, our national defense takes a back seat
to a many of these people, doesn't it.

Speaker 38 (02:17:51):
It certainly does. I mean, look at where the waste
has disp I mean, we're not talking about defense at
this point. We're just talking about ways and taking a.

Speaker 9 (02:18:01):
Fraction of it.

Speaker 38 (02:18:03):
I mean we're giving you know, Iran, how many billions
of dollars have they gotten from us? And they're one
of the two big fears I had, North Korea or Iran.
North Korea already has the capability if Iran ever gets
control of the nuclear weapon, it has the launch capacity.

Speaker 9 (02:18:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 38 (02:18:23):
I actually have seen videos put out by Iran of
America being destroyed by an EMP and they're all singing
and dancing and laughing. These are real threats.

Speaker 12 (02:18:34):
Yeah, yeah, I believe they are. I'm wondering if if
you were following, and I'm sure you probably were. This
whole scenario that occurred not too long ago, with this
Chinese spy balloon that was floating across the United States
that the Biden administration just kind of let hang out there,
didn't take any action against it until it was out,

(02:18:57):
you know, in the ocean, and finally they shot it down. Yeah,
I'm kind of wondering, what do you think that this
could literally be kind of a trial balloon to see
what they could get into our airspace and impossible preparation
for some kind of future attack of this nature that
you're talking about.

Speaker 38 (02:19:18):
Well, a balloon, even at sixty seventy thousand feet is
not up high enough to trigger a full EMP. You
need to be almost above the earth statmosphere. Well, yeah,
that was a circus. That was an absolute, wasn't it.
And we were asking for date, Why don't you shoot
the damn thing down? Oh no, we had to wait

(02:19:38):
till it's off the coast. That that was one of
the worst moments, I think, and in the previous administration. Yeah,
I mean nothing when we should be doing something.

Speaker 12 (02:19:50):
And then the other thing that comes to my mind, William,
is the this whole thing, this technology, which I guess
is relatively naic drone technology, because they can make these
drones really small now to the point where I'm not
sure they can really be detected by radar and potentially

(02:20:14):
fly them over the the continental United States. What kind
of threat are these drones now in terms of possible
EMP attacks, in terms.

Speaker 38 (02:20:26):
Of strategic situations, not really because they're basically slow flying.
Even if they're flying three or four hundred miles an hour,
they're small. They can't carry the capacity to generate an
EMP that's created by detonating a nuclear weapon. But it demonstrates,
yet again an area of defense where we're ill prepared.

Speaker 2 (02:20:47):
At the moment. Yeah, what beyond USU A v MP, I.

Speaker 38 (02:20:53):
Worry about cyber attack or even physical attack. You know,
one study showed that attacks on a dozen major substations
in the United States which shut our grid down for weeks.
We're talking about terrorists hitting with RTGs or even some
high power rifles major transformers and taking them offline. They've

(02:21:16):
already been done a couple of times a press note
several years back, and another one in eastern North Carolina.
Somebody with a high power rifle blew out some transformers
and the grid goes down. Yep, a major event could
be as few as ten to twelve major substations.

Speaker 12 (02:21:34):
You know, it dawns on me how they have modernized
certain aspects of the grid to the point where they
you know, they turned it into a smart grid, which
I guess means it's more computerized. But to me, that
kind of makes it in many ways more vulnerable because
it's more connected. The more connected something is, it seems
like it's it's more vulnerable to hack, vulnerable to penetration. Recently,

(02:21:56):
it's been revealed that the communist Chinese have penetrated our
cellular phone network, and the cellular phone providers say they
can't figure out how to get them out. You know,
if the same is true for our power grid, there
could be multiple ways, not just an emp that they
could take down the grid. What I don't have you
looked into that at all?

Speaker 38 (02:22:18):
Yeah, Mike call I teach a small college called Montree College.
We have a major part of our curriculum now we
have over one hundred students who are working in the
area of cybersecurity. Every once in a while I'll walk
into their lab, just sit there and they start explaining
on the big board that the number of attacks cyber

(02:22:40):
attacks is constant. It's absolutely hundreds a day that the
good guys are trying to block or eliminate. So this
is warfare of the future. It's asymmetrical warfare. There you go,
it's the grid. It to be the worst or cyber
attacks that part of the grid down, that disrupts military bases.

(02:23:03):
That could be the first step of World War three.

Speaker 12 (02:23:06):
Yep, I agree. Hey, VICKI did you have anything you
wanted to ask? I don't want to dominate everything.

Speaker 13 (02:23:12):
Well, no, it's I'm learning. I mean, this is an
area that I really haven't studied. I study administrative systems,
but this whole MP attack thing that worries me.

Speaker 12 (02:23:30):
That's very terrifying. You should worry everybody. Would this golden
dome thing, do you think it would protect against solar flares?
Possibly as well?

Speaker 38 (02:23:40):
Ah No, because we're talking about solar a sun event,
and I should add I just was a great side
I check every day is called spaceweather dot com. All
one more spaceweather dot com. There's gonna be a major
E four level event hitting America, hitting the world tomorrow.

(02:24:04):
Solar flares are another major issue. A G five storm
would actually start shorting our system out.

Speaker 12 (02:24:11):
So I know the Sun has been very active lately.

Speaker 13 (02:24:16):
Yeah, So there's no way to protect like the transmission
grid from a solar flare, A solar a natural.

Speaker 38 (02:24:29):
Event, problematical, problematic, and no other than if we had
sufficient warning, you actually just start powering the grid. Off,
basically almost shutting it down to umiliate the electrostatic discharge
that would build up that it wouldn't be an excess
and then start shortening our lines off. But bottom line,

(02:24:52):
with a major solar event, let's keep our fingers crossed.

Speaker 19 (02:24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:24:59):
Well, for personal electronics, I guess you could put your
those in faraday cages. But if you don't have any
kind of uh powered to power those things, then it
wouldn't really matter, would it.

Speaker 38 (02:25:13):
Yeah, because if the Okay, let's let's talk about your
cell phones. I remember some years five years back, a
major thunderstorm blew out part of the grid of North Carolina,
and my daughter and I were sitting there and she said, Dad,
what's going on? I said, does your cell phone work?
And she goes, yeah. I said, we're fine, it's it's

(02:25:33):
just a thunderstorm. The funny thing was a college administrator
called me up a couple of minutes later. In his
opening stamen was Bill, is this it? I just said, yeah,
we're screwed.

Speaker 34 (02:25:48):
Hey.

Speaker 12 (02:25:48):
By the way, I wanted to say we're almost out
of time, but I wanted to say congratulations on the film.
Uh deal, that's that's that's really great.

Speaker 38 (02:25:58):
I've waited years for then it's in fact the producer
and director. If we're going to be doing a lot
of filming in Bulgaria where it's a lot cheaper. Most
films are made over there now, and they're actually over
there right now studying up arrangements. Start filming in September.

Speaker 12 (02:26:14):
All right, very good. So check out his book.

Speaker 13 (02:26:17):
Where can we see his documentary?

Speaker 12 (02:26:22):
I think it's still in development.

Speaker 38 (02:26:25):
Yeah, okay, in development exact frame movie.

Speaker 12 (02:26:29):
All right, Hey, thank you so much for being with us.
We'll have to get you back, William forest Gin. It's
one second after dot com. Get the book. I picked
it up last night, got through the first chapter. I'm
going to be reading the rest of it very soon.
Thank you so much, William, appreciate it.

Speaker 38 (02:26:45):
Take a pleasure chatting with you.

Speaker 12 (02:26:47):
Yeah, God bless you, and we'll talk soon. All right,
there he is, William forest Gin will be back. Listeners,
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Speaker 48 (02:31:03):
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Speaker 12 (02:31:13):
Continue to be the thirty first of May twenty twenty five.
Let's go back to the phones. Now, let's go out
to Utah. Hello, Color, you're on the ar Go ahead, please.

Speaker 47 (02:31:23):
Oh yes, during this time in Utah, Hi there back
when you're talking about the perversion or the sexte perversion
effected upon children. Yeah, you kind of pushed my button
because along with my other activities in my assignments, I
was assigned also to be a chunselor and an advisor

(02:31:47):
to the rape and abuse victims.

Speaker 13 (02:31:51):
And they would be a tough job.

Speaker 47 (02:31:55):
That act is so permanently in the styche as a
victim that their whole life is mess for.

Speaker 12 (02:32:06):
Yeah, terrible. You know, the fact that the United Nations
and the imps that are a part of these agreements
are pushing this thing on our children is just mind blowing.
They're saying that there's in this article they were saying
that supporters of the treaty argue that legalizing sexting is

(02:32:30):
compassionate because adlins have the right to sexual expression. I
don't know where they get this right, you know, Is
this in the UN rights of the child? I don't know.
That would be something to research, wouldn't it, But I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:32:46):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:32:48):
All I got to say is parents, hold your kids
very closely because these monsters are after them in a
major way, in every way, shape and form. You know,
when I was at I don't.

Speaker 13 (02:33:00):
Know why we are still in the United Nations. We
should kick them out of our country.

Speaker 12 (02:33:06):
Yeah, get out of it. And we don't need to
be making parallel organizations either.

Speaker 25 (02:33:12):
I know.

Speaker 12 (02:33:12):
That's one of the things that Trump administration. I think
Kennedy and the Trump administration is trying to do now
with the World Health Organization. He's creating a wants to
create a parallel WHO type organization to basically compete with
or supplant the current WHO. No, we don't need a
world body. These things, even if they started with good intentions,

(02:33:36):
they don't end up that way no matter what it is.
That's the last thing that we need.

Speaker 13 (02:33:41):
Yeah. Well, they keep you know, adding nations, and that
of course changes the balance of power. And as far
as I can tell, the United Nations is filled. It's
an organization that are of individuals and entities that are

(02:34:05):
enemies of the United States.

Speaker 12 (02:34:08):
Yeah, Tom, and all your counseling of victims, you know,
or or should I say survivors as many of them
like to be called instead of victims. They like to
be called survivors. But regardless of what tag they have,
would you say, given the the acts that are committed

(02:34:29):
upon these people, that the perpetrators of those acts, you
think that they have a whole lot of hope for rehabilitation.

Speaker 9 (02:34:39):
Perpetrators.

Speaker 47 (02:34:40):
No, they seems like they are so addicted to the
act they have no way to change. In fact, I
think WI me in history that the punishment for rape
or you know, sexual abuse was how to say, extract

(02:35:05):
body parts.

Speaker 12 (02:35:07):
Yeah, well, I don't even think that's good enough. I
think put them in the public square and hang them.
I mean, that's really the only thing, you know, and
that would serve as a public deterrent. You know, I
think we need to bring back some public hangings, you know,
for public officials as well, you know, because and by
the way, public officials also tarring and feathering as well.

(02:35:28):
I think we need to do things the way things
used to work. You know, we had a lot less
corruption when people put on display the punishment for the actions.
And it's it's high time that we get back to
that point.

Speaker 25 (02:35:42):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:35:43):
That's not a terror a call for some terrorist act,
you know, certainly after a trial of your peers, the
jury of your peers, upon proper conviction of a jury
of your peers. But there needs to be deterrence of
all of this stuff. Otherwise you're just having more and

(02:36:03):
more and more corruption and perversion, predation and victimization. We've
got to put a stop to it or we're not
going to have a civilized society anymore.

Speaker 13 (02:36:12):
Well, we have. We have an unbalanced justice system. It
seems that if liberals do something, they get off. If
conservatives do something, they that they just throw the book
at him. Yeah, put him in prison for years and
years and years.

Speaker 12 (02:36:32):
Tom, I'll give you a final shot there.

Speaker 47 (02:36:36):
Well, I'm just going to say rate or a use
a liceentence to the victim. In fact, even Mark Phillips
dropped Kathy O'Brian to be even decades after her experience
in mk Ultrup. Yeah, Christie attempt to try to help
her deprogrammed. You know, you might might call a rape

(02:37:01):
or abuseship programming, but it does affect them for the life.

Speaker 12 (02:37:07):
Oh yeah, absolutely changes you. Yeah, I it's it's mind blowing.
But hey, thank you for the call. I appreciate it.
God bless you, sir. Appreciate all your work. All right,
So anyway, I'm gonna leave that article there because basically
I don't think I can digest any more of it,

(02:37:27):
but that'll be in the show notes. I hope that
people will take this to their elected officials and pressure
them to Yeah, like VICKI said, get us the heck
out of the United Nations. Certainly we should kick the
United Nations out of the United States. They can take
their little statue of the gun with the barrel tied

(02:37:47):
in the not and move it to some other place,
or better yet, maybe sinking sink it in the middle
of the ocean. But anyway, anti war, this is something
that you'll not like either, VICKI. The brief freeze and
rapid partial reinstatement of National Endowment for Democracy funding in

(02:38:11):
early twenty twenty five helped expose it as a US
regime change tool. But now the USA, they brought it back.
They brought it back. Oh my God, created a rebrand
CIA covert operations as democracy promotion. The NED channels government

(02:38:31):
funds to opposition groups meddling in their internal affairs. In
twenty eighteen, Kenneth Wallack bragged to the US Congress that
the NED had given political training to eight thousand young Nicaraguins,
many of whom were engaged in a failed attempt to
overthrow Nicaragua's send denise to government. Wallack was praising the

(02:38:52):
democracy promotion work carried out by the National Endowment for Democracy,
of which he is now vice chair. Carl Gershman, then
president of NED, and giving evidence, was asked about Niicar
rog was Daniel Ortega, who has been re elected with
an increased majority two years prior, He responded, time for

(02:39:15):
him to go. Seven years later, Trump took office, and
he looked as if the ned's future. It looked as
if the Ned's future was endangered. On February twelfth, the
Department of Government Efficiency under Elon musk FROs disbursement of
its congressionally approved funds, its activities stopped, and its website
went blank. On February twenty fourth, Richard Grenell, special Envoid

(02:39:37):
of Venezuela declared that Donald Trump is someone who does
not want to make real regime changes. Washington's global regime
change operations were immediately impacted. In over two thousand paid
US collaborating organizations were temporarily defunded. A Biden appointed judge
warned of potential catastrophic harm US efforts to US efforts

(02:40:00):
to overturn foreign governments. She didn't put it that way,
of course. The howl from the corporate press was deafening.
The Associated Press cried beacon of freedom dims as US
initiatives that promote democracy brought abroad with her. However, the
pause lasted barely a month. March, Chance funding was largely reinstated,

(02:40:25):
so it was defunded in February was reinstated largely in March.
The National Endowment for Democracy, which deeply appreciated the state
departments about face, then made public its current program, which
in Latin America and the Caribbean alone includes over six
hundred or over two hundred and sixty projects costing more

(02:40:47):
than forty million dollars. And they're talking about it being
an extension of soft power, US soft power, So regime
changes all over the world will continue with the US
soft power, the propaganda machinery out of the State Department,

(02:41:08):
the National Endowment for Democracy that.

Speaker 13 (02:41:12):
Seems to be becoming a strategy. They do something, they
give Trump bragging rights, and then quietly undo it with
it within a short period of time, everything is put back.

Speaker 12 (02:41:31):
And that's the way those executive voters are. Look what
look all the stuff he's gotten done and then boom
overnight literally when then either by court or by the
next administration coming in and undoing it, it's all going
to be undone anything. You know. We need lasting change, folks,

(02:41:53):
for the better. All right, let's go back to the phones,
and well, you're welcome to call in. If you're going
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(02:42:14):
Let's go to Arizona now and take a call there. Hello,
you're on the air. Go ahead, please hello caller Arizona.
Hold on, I didn't realize the button didn't take. All right,
now try it. You're on the air.

Speaker 25 (02:42:31):
There, that's much better.

Speaker 12 (02:42:33):
Yeah, there we go. Sorry about that.

Speaker 25 (02:42:35):
Reference to your Oh that's quite all right. The caller
you had about or the guests that you had interviewed
about EMP there's different deals. Now I'm going according to
a military field manual. This is FM three Dash three

(02:42:56):
Dash one, and it's called Nuclear Contamination Avoidance, and it
points out in their way towards the back half of
the stuff is pretty boring. It's just a bunch of
charts and floapy lines and everything. But if you go
back to Appendix C, it talks about the nuclear blast

(02:43:17):
effects on electronics and it points out in there that
there's a big difference between an air burst and a
ground burst, and obviously a lot of it has to
do with the yield, but according to this FM that
a ground burst is actually more detrimental to your electronics

(02:43:40):
than it is an aerial burst. I know, the aerial burst.
People have been talking that about for years, about a
scud and a bucket that they could sail up some
old fishing vessel up in the Gulf of Mexico and
fire one up over Missouri to about forty k and
it would do a tremendous amount of damage. I'm not

(02:44:01):
so sure if your golden dome would take care of that.
Probably not launched. It happened that close to the deal.
So there's a lot to be learned in this. Like
I say, there's a lot of slope lines and charts
and it can get makes your eyes crossed after a while,
I'll send you that And in addition to a lot

(02:44:22):
of other things about contamination avoidance and decontamination, because it's
not just the e MP, it's how to treat the
people afterwards. One other thing, we have a it's a
local AM station coming out of KVOI added Tucson and
guys only on one day a week on Sundays, and

(02:44:45):
he has had a professor from the University of Arizona
on and they were discussing this very deal of about
EMP and things and trying to straighten out some of
these misconceptions that and you would when the guest was
being interviewed, you had mentioned stuff about a Faraday cage. Yeah,

(02:45:06):
and what was pointed out that you know, we've heard
over the years a lot of people say, we'll get
a metal trash can with a tight fitting lid and
it's going to this and line it with you know,
cardboard or whatever you're going to do. And this professor
from the U of A pointed out that the worst
thing you can actually have is a metal trash can

(02:45:30):
because metal conducts electricity, so it would be better to
have a plastic trash can, have it up on like
blocks of wood, like you know, two x fours or something.
And then the question was of about whether it should
be grounded. People think, well, if it gets an electromagnetic pulse,
and then if we ground it with a grounding wire

(02:45:52):
from off of the container the EMP or the fair
Day cage, and then have a grounding rod that's going
to shine the electricity or the EMP into the ground.
But once again it depends on if it's an air
burst or a ground burst. When what you would actually
happen happening is that if it was a good strong burst. Again,

(02:46:14):
A lot of it has to do with the yield
of the device, how strong it is, how many kt
or megaton it is. That the actual that EMP can
get down in the ground and then you would be
piping the electrical impulse out of the ground into your
Faraday container. So we have to be very careful of that.

(02:46:40):
One thing, if you had said that you would like
to get the guests back on after his movie got going.
That One question I always have is, you know, we
have everybody's got GPS's and radios and everything, or an
app you can download a compass or something for direction.
I would like to ask, I guess that if there

(02:47:02):
was a nuclear detonation and an electromagnetic pulse, would that
affect a compass, would it demagnetize the needle and would
just still be able to find your direction with a
basic compass, because obviously your GPS or your cell phone's
going to be useless. And that's all I have. I

(02:47:24):
thank you for your time.

Speaker 12 (02:47:25):
I appreciate the call. Hey, thank you, yeah very much.
That's interesting concepts. Yeah, exactly, thank you. Yeah. I don't
know the answer to that. I would imagine, you know,
compasses use the Earth's electromagnetic or the Earth's magnetic pole.
So I wouldn't think so unless they're unless they have

(02:47:48):
elect internal electronics in them. So that's kind of an
interesting thought. I do know now that there's a lot
of effort to try to get away from exclusively relying
upon on geo positioning satellite systems for all of this
GPS what we call GPS technology, you know, the stuff

(02:48:11):
that's in the phones, which relies upon the GPS satellites.
They're trying to utilize more ground based systems, including Wi
Fi locations and other things sell towers. And I can
tell you, as a person who's in television, the new

(02:48:32):
currently right now in television in the United States, we
are using We are on the ATSC one standard. They
have the ATSC committee that comes up with these TV
standards have engineered or produced ATSC three that is the

(02:48:56):
new standard that television is going to. Now. There's a
lot of different things that's been added into the ATSC
three standard, not the least of which it is there's
a back channel that you can if a TV station
wanted to, they could actually do pay per view. You
could do an on demand type of movie situation. I

(02:49:17):
don't know that this stuff, a lot of this will
ever be utilized. I think a lot of the technology
won't be utilized. There's you know, there's certain things with
regard to you know, higher quality video, and you know,
I don't know how valuable a lot of that it's
going to be because at a certain point the average
public is not going to be able to tell the
difference I think with some of this stuff. But one

(02:49:39):
thing that is kind of interesting with regard to emergency
type situations warning systems and the like, and especially with GPS,
that's one thing that's going to be incorporated into ATSC
three the new TV standard is global positioning systems. TV

(02:50:02):
towers will now you know, when you pass them, your
phone will be able to detect okay, that was channel
whatever there, and it will be able to use that
as a data point, so that it's not totally reliant
upon global positioning systems. So I think, you know, that

(02:50:24):
will be It's kind of something that's needed in a
way because I can tell you right now China and
other hostile powers have weaponized, and I think have the
potential to weaponize a lot and a lot greater capacity
satellite GPS technology. They can jam it. Ground based systems

(02:50:49):
would be harder to do. They would have to both
jam the satellite systems and the ground based systems at
the same time. And given the fact that you have
TV stations all over the country, you would have a
hard time jamming all of them. So that's something to
kind of keep in mind. These are things, these are

(02:51:10):
technologies that already exist, and you know, there's a lot
there's a big push now with a national Association of
broadcasters to try to push ATSC three forward because it's
it's something that's really stalled. There's a lot of reasons
for that, which I don't have time to get into,

(02:51:32):
but and not the least of which it's it's a
hurdle for broadcasters to overcome because there's not enough spectrum
for them to broadcast both they're existing ATSC one services
and also ATSC three, so they have to share what
there's called it a lighthouse effect, a lighthouse process, and

(02:51:53):
there's also a night light process, you know, basically where
they share resources on a power one station will broadcast
all of the services uh for the others and in
exchange for having their new service broadcast or vice versa.
You know, these these these are the these are the
this is the way it's got to happen in every market,

(02:52:15):
so you can imagine why it's taking so long. And
the and the federal government has kind of taken a
hands off approach to Unlike the digital transformation, the digital transition,
where they were transitioning from from analog television to digital,
the transition from AT S one digital to at S

(02:52:40):
C three digital has not been as as motivated. You know,
cell phone providers like to gobble up spectrum, and the
TV stations and radio stations over the air have been
the targets of that, you know, hunger for more and
more and more frequency spectrum. And you know, this is

(02:53:04):
a problem because over the air broadcasting is largely free
and they want to turn all of these free services
into paid services where you have to pay for your
all your entertainment and information.

Speaker 13 (02:53:19):
Oh yeah, the new world order is polluter pays principles,
which means that you pay for absolutely everything, including the
air you breathe.

Speaker 12 (02:53:33):
Yep, exactly. So anyway, that's something that's coming. I didn't
mean to get into a big, long winded dissertation about
you know, broadcast technology, but the GPS system is important
because a lot of people rely upon that for directions
and you know, ambulance services and various other things if

(02:53:55):
they're coming to your address, if you if you've got
a medical emergency. A lot of people, you know, people,
a lot of young people. I don't even think they
know how to read a map anymore. It might be
a good idea, by the way, just as an afterthought,
to kind of close out this whole broadcast, go get
yourself an atlas. You know, they're probably pretty cheap these days,

(02:54:16):
if they still print them. I think they do.

Speaker 13 (02:54:18):
I actually have a couple of them around here because
I never really learned how to use the one on
my phone.

Speaker 12 (02:54:28):
Yeah, it might be a good idea to have that
kind of stuff handy, because you never really know, you know.
I think that this is something certainly, it's something that
the enemies of our country have planned for us in
the future. It may not happen in the next year,
may not happen in the next five years. I'm very,

(02:54:50):
very concerned that this will likely happen in our lifetime.
Oh boy, I hope not, and it will be just zact.

Speaker 9 (02:55:01):
Well.

Speaker 13 (02:55:02):
My lifetime is getting shorter and shorter.

Speaker 12 (02:55:04):
So well, that's true for all of us, actually, but
we don't want to shorten it anymore. So do the
best you can to be prepared and get yourself a map,
get yourself an atlas, and get yourself a plan to
have backup systems in place, you know, with Faraday cages.
Do some reading on the subject might be a good

(02:55:25):
idea to prep as much as you can. Because we
don't know what the future holds, but we know that
as long as we are doing what we can to
help ourselves and putting our faith in God, we can
know who holds the future. And on that happy note,
we got to go. Hey, thank you, Vicky, appreciate it.

(02:55:46):
Thank you, and thank you to William forest gin great
appearance by William forest Gene one second after dot com
is his website, And thanks to all the callers and
everybody participating. God bless you folks for this republic. Do
what you can to restore it and join us back
here next week and bring a friend so we can
all have fun together. We'll talk soon. Bye bye, truly,

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