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October 11, 2025 176 mins
"An Interconnected Fraud" 

Hosts: Darren Weeks, Vicky Davis 

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White House hosts Antifa roundtable discussion after domestic terror designation. Will the Trump administration unravel the funding networks and hold the guilty accountable? In the first hour, we are joined by political strategist and speechwriter Geoff Gilson (maggieshammer.com) who talks about the Charlie Kirk assassination, the potential for civil war, and his experiences with Antifa leadership. In the second hour, Reggie Littlejohn (antiglobalist.net) is back with us to discuss the implementation of Digital IDs, Technocracy, Vaccine Passports, and how Oracle's billionaire CEO wants everyone to wear body cams 24/7 so that his Big Brother AI systems can keep an eye on them. As Trump fights Antifa terrorists at home, he welcomes the Qataris — state sponsors of the Muslim Brotherhood — to train and build a facility on our military base in Idaho.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
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Order, new world order, new world order.

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This is a moment to cease. The glidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around.

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Us, a new world order, a world where the.

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United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of
its founders.

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is so that the problem of the pot rensidentity will
be the emergence of a new international order.

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The first decade of the twenty first century, that out
of what is will be cleared, the greatest restructuring of
the global economy, greatest restructuring of the global economies, greatest
restructuring of the global economy, a new world order was.

Speaker 7 (00:53):
Created, Documan. The prices of our rebel.

Speaker 8 (00:58):
The very word secrecy repugnant in a free and open society.
And we are as a people inherently and historically opposed
to secret societies, the secret oaths and a secret proceedings.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
Pleasing war on the new world order.

Speaker 9 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 10 (01:17):
We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether
sought or unsought, by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 7 (01:27):
This is Governor America.

Speaker 11 (01:29):
Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 12 (01:41):
From FEMA Regions five to ten. This is Governed America.
Vicky Davis is here. I'm during weeks. It is the
eleventh of October twenty twenty five, and it's nice to
have you with us once again, ladies and gentlemen. A
lot to do as always. I have somehow managed, though,
to misplace my glasses. I lay them down somewhere in
the last minutes ramble to get on the air, and

(02:03):
I don't know what I did with them. They could
have gotten far because I haven't been Yeah, I just
had them. Is this the onset of old age?

Speaker 13 (02:14):
Yes, i'd say, so what I did with my reading glasses?
I lost them and I couldn't find them. And it
was months. You know where they were inside my linen closet.

Speaker 12 (02:26):
Oh geeesh. Yeah, I could see how that would be
difficult to find.

Speaker 14 (02:31):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:31):
What's what's sad is when you walk around with your
looking for your car keys and you find out they're
in your hand the whole time. Yeah, I've had that
situation too, I'm embarrassed to admit, but not recently. But man,
I'll tell you what, I don't know. I have to
look for these things at some point during the break.
I don't I just had them. That's what's weird about it.
But anyway, we'll muddle through, ladies and gentlemen, I do.

(02:54):
We do have a couple of guests scheduled on the
show today, so it's going to be a busy show.
Uh In the in the bottom of this hour, we
will be visiting with Jeff gil Gilson. Jeff uh Is
was at one time he started his career as a
speech writer for Margaret Thatcher and later on he had

(03:16):
somebody who he was friends with die in a mysterious
death and ended up doing some research on that and
uncovering a lot of very missed, horrific things. And I
don't know how much we're going to get into that. Today.
We brought him on to talk about Antiva antiva violence,

(03:37):
but he's very well versed in talking about the different
webs of funding, which is very relevant or very Germane
too Antifa because this week, just days ago, the White
House held a round table which talked about antifa and

(04:01):
they're talking about going after Antifa. In fact, we are
hearing from the White House Press Secretary Caroline love It
that they are already working on the funding network for Antifa.
In fact, here's the audio I think from Caroline Levit.

Speaker 15 (04:18):
So we're talking about these radical groups in Portland, in Chicago.
I know the President has spoken about potentially going after
George Soros with Greco charges and for funding all of
this violence.

Speaker 16 (04:29):
Has there been an update on that, And also is.

Speaker 15 (04:32):
The administration looking into the other nonprofits maybe taking away
their five p' one C three status for funding this violets?

Speaker 16 (04:40):
And then I have one more question.

Speaker 17 (04:42):
Sure, the financial backing of these groups, particularly Antifa, is
certainly something the administration is looking into aggressively, and the
federal government has never really been mobilized or tasked with
doing that. So we're kind of kickstarting that into gear.
The FBI is working on it alongside the White Houses
Homeland Security Task Force. We have our intelligence community looking

(05:03):
into this as well, and even the Secretary of Treasury
is involved with these matters since they are financial in nature,
and we will continue to get to the bottom of
who is funding these organizations in this organized anarchy against
our country and our government. It's a question the American
people have been begging the answer for for many years,
and we're committed to uncovering it. And when we do,

(05:25):
I'm sure you'll be one of the first people to know.

Speaker 12 (05:27):
I really hope that they're serious about this, because.

Speaker 13 (05:31):
Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 12 (05:32):
This has to be done or we're not going to
have a country.

Speaker 13 (05:35):
M Yeah. I studied the Tides Foundation at what at
one point, and it's amazing the funding mechanism that they
have set up such that it masks who's doing the
donating to it. So, yeah, the whole network of NGOs.

(06:00):
I mean, if I had my way, the Congress would
vote to eliminate five oh one C three organizational structure.

Speaker 12 (06:08):
Yeah, I agree. I agree, because what it's done is
it's it's silenced the churches too. I realize there's a
lot of charitable organizations that really are charitable and really
are doing great work. But the problem is is that
when you pick winners and losers, and when you have
government funding attached to certain rules that they have to
comply with, it becomes very very dicey in getting people,

(06:31):
you know, in other words, it interferes with free speech.
It interferes when that funding can be threatened to be
taken away. It's it's not good. It is it's a
means of control. That's what it's really grows. Yeah, tether,
that's a good word. So yeah, I agree with you
one hundred percent. And that's something we've been advocating for

(06:53):
a long time. Don't see that happening because it's not
a politically, you know, beneficial thing for somebody in politics
to propose taking away of five oh one C three.

Speaker 13 (07:04):
So maybe that's the way to get Congress to work together.
You know, well you were both organized to eliminate the
five ozho one C three.

Speaker 12 (07:14):
Now, VICKI, you know, bipartisanship never hot happens to the
benefit of the country. Bipartisanship only happens when they're doing
something against you.

Speaker 13 (07:27):
That's true.

Speaker 12 (07:28):
Seems like they can come together real good to screw you,
but they can't come together to do something to help,
at least not in today's America. And that's really sad.
Ye one thing that I am. You know there of course,
the government shut down still going on. I said last
week that it probably won't affect many people. I know,

(07:49):
you you probably got out of bed every day, Vicky
and thought, oh crap, I can't do anything today because
the government is shut down. That was the first thought
in your mind.

Speaker 13 (07:59):
Well get up, I say that, but it's not because
the government is shut down. Yeah, cant changes to don't want.

Speaker 12 (08:07):
I realized there are a few people this effects, and
in fact, this week the media was filled with reports
of travelers trying to go from place to place and
there are long lines at the airport, and I was
wondering just how much of this really is the government
shut down versus union employees doing a union an old
fashioned union slowdown and calling in sick, because there is

(08:30):
a lot of that going on as well. Trump said
that maybe people might not get their back pay, which
I think they would have called in sick anyway. But
what he really should have probably said is, if you
want to get your back pay, don't call in sick.
That might have been a way to properly reverse it,
because we know at the end of the day they're
probably going to get all of their back pay. I mean,

(08:52):
that's the way it's always been. And yeah, so anyway,
there's that. Trump is also laying off four thousand federal
workers as the government shut down drags on, and honestly,
I think probably most of these people will get their
jobs back some of this, it's difficult to know how

(09:15):
much of this is really going to stick. I really
doubt that that will stick. But that's just me anyway,
other things that are important before we get to our
guest at the bottom of the hour, And by the way,
as I said, Jeff Gilson will be coming on at
the bottom of this hour, and the next hour we

(09:37):
will have Reggie Little John back to talk about give
us an update on the pandemic Treaty, the w h
O Pandemic Treaty and the digital ID which is connected
to that. We think that and I think she thinks
that the pandemic Treaty can be the springboard for a

(09:57):
digital ID system, and I think think that that's probable.

Speaker 13 (10:00):
I totally agree because I think I said last week
that the Grover Norquist was the guy whose name I
couldn't think of. He testified to Congress in the nineteen
nineties about a national ID card.

Speaker 12 (10:16):
Okay, yep, yep, and real idea has been a thing
for a long time. They just recently the states have
implemented on the driver's licenses. They claim that you can't
go fly without it. Well that was hogwashed. You can
fly without it. They claim that you can't go into
a federal building without it. I don't know how much

(10:36):
that's being enforced. Maybe some people can give us some
give us some color on that issue, whether or not
they've tried to enter a federal building without real ID.
But that's what they that's what they claim. But the
bottom line is whether or not it's the Pandemic Treaty
or some other means. E Verify I think is a
springboard for a lot of this potentially as well. And

(10:56):
the Republicans are all in with e verify. The bottom
line is I think that they're going to do everything
they can to put it through, even if they have
to piece meal it in.

Speaker 13 (11:08):
With with the government track record and systems. My thinking
has always been that everify is just a facade of
verification because it's so easy for a programmer to put
code in to let everything go through. And how do

(11:30):
you how do you know as an individual if you're
using this system and it says, yeah, this guy's good,
how do you know that what they're telling you is true?
So you hire the guy and hease and illegal.

Speaker 12 (11:43):
Yeah, well, we've already talked about everify in some places
that it's been identified or implemented. Rather that they've they've
you know, it hasn't. It's failed to keep people who
are illegal aliens from working at meat packing facilities. For instance,
there was that one story I think it was in Utah.

(12:06):
We talked about it on the show where they were
they had a bunch that I think Ice had a
raid there or something and they found a bunch of
illegal aliens and the place had implemented the everify, but
they figured out a way around it, and the beat
goes on. So Everify isn't really a you know, they'll
say it's about the foreigners. They'll say it's about the

(12:28):
low hanging fruit. Bottom line is, folks, it's about you
because you have to be tracked and traced and verified
whether or not you're approved by the government to work.
And that's what it really boils down to is will
you be approved or will you not be approved? And
and and with everify in place, digital IDs are very

(12:48):
available there to deny you the ability to buy or
sell because if you can't work, you can't buy or
sell because you don't have the means by which to
do it if you're unable to earn it. So I
see this whole thing as interconnected.

Speaker 13 (13:04):
M Yeah, an interconnected fraud.

Speaker 12 (13:08):
Yeah, exactly straight out yep. So last week I wanted
to give you an update also on what I said
last week with regard to Charlie Kirk. I put out
a video which I thought and it certainly looked like
this thing that was on his chest. There was a

(13:29):
black dot or a black mark on his chest, which
looks like if you slow mow the video you go
frame by frame, it looks like this thing flies off
his shirt and hits him in the neck and that's
what created the wound. And I did get some feedback
from a listener in particular who One listener sent me
a video from a gentleman who has a ballistics background,

(13:51):
and he answered a lot of the questions that I
had last week. I now believe based upon this video
and the guy that was doing the video, by the way,
thanks John for sending that in. That was John p.
He sent that in to me, and this gentleman who
was doing the video has I guess extensive military experience
and background and ballistics and everything, and he was. He

(14:15):
actually demonstrated how the you know, did a side by
side comparison with him tucking a microphone in under his shirt,
the cord under his shirt the way Charlie had it,
and so I am convinced it was indeed a microphone.
There were some people that were talking about exploding lobs
and that sort of thing. It looks like it was

(14:37):
a Microsoft microphone. And the part that I was really
kind of missing on this whole equation is is what
this gentleman said. He says, more than likely he had
it wrapped around his neck because otherwise it's uncomfortable because
gravity will be pulling it downward, and so he probably
had it wrapped around his neck. Well, then if the

(14:58):
bullet came through, then it would have possibly hit the cord.
And that's the kind of violent action that you're seeing
under his shirt. Potentially is the shirt goes up because
the cord underneath his shirt is being jerked up. And
that would make sense to me, And it would also
make sense that why the black dot, which apparently, if

(15:20):
it is in fact his microphone, it looks like it is,
would be jerked up at the same time that the
wound is created. So that makes a lot of sense
to me, and I put that in the show notes
for last week. I'll do it again this week because
I think that that's a good thing. You know, we're
not here to try to My only intention is to
ask questions that I don't of things I don't understand,

(15:43):
and I appreciate the feedback, and I appreciate it because
when you're really pursuing truth, that's what you do, and
that makes a lot of sense to me. But I
do believe, well, let me just say it this way.
I don't believe the trajectory of the bullet though, was
the direction. And that's where this gentleman uh in the video,
and I agree, is that the trajectory of the video

(16:07):
or the of the bullet and it it is not
It could not be from the direction they're saying it is.
And there's still way too many questions about the official
government story on this whole situation. And I have a
real problem with the fact that we're not getting any
answers from the supposed patriots at the FBI, the supposed

(16:30):
patriot cash Petel. You know, all of these people in
the Trump administration, which patriots support, they're not giving us
any answers on Glene Maxwell and the whole Epstein mess
They're not giving us any satisfactory answers on Charlie Kirk
and his assassination, you know, arguably one of the most
prominent and influential voices in conservatism, uh, in our you know,

(16:55):
in our lifetime potentially, And and yet we're not getting
any answers as to why he was assassinated, who he
was assassinated. It's just like, hey, this, uh, this guy
here is the one that did it. Now, if you
don't believe that, shut up and move on. Slave. Well,
I'm sorry, but I there's way too many questions here,

(17:17):
Questions about where the gun, how the gun got in
the woods, how he got it off the roof, h
the notes that were the text messages that he texted
to his lover at the time, allegedly, you know, some
of the language that he was using in those text messages,
how was written in a very poetic fashion, And how

(17:39):
he uses words, like Candice O has pointed out, he
uses words like vehicle. He says, nobody talks that. She
says nobody talks that way. You know, you'll say my car.
You won't see your vehicle, she says, uh, you know.
And there's another term, squad car. She says, who uses
squad car? She says, somebody in the squad that's who

(18:02):
uses squad car. So there's there's a lot of important
questions that Candice has raised. There's they're smearing her massively now,
because that's what you do when you're trying to tamp
things down and get you know, when you can't do
anything else to try to get people to quit listening
to somebody who's asking intelligent questions, you try to discredit them.

(18:24):
So the propaganda machine is is cranking big time into overtime.
And it's sad to see who in Conservatism is failing
to ask the questions. It's it's and and helping to
perpetrate the lie.

Speaker 13 (18:39):
Actually, yeah, well I think it's probably safe to say
that Washington, d C. In our Congress, they're really a
breakaway civilization from our nation.

Speaker 12 (18:53):
M m yeah.

Speaker 13 (18:55):
And that and that's really how I see it. There
are only a few that seemed to be working for
the American people, but even even those people I question.

Speaker 12 (19:12):
Yeah, exactly. Now, as I said earlier this week, Trump's
Trump had a White House Antifa round table. I think
i'll play a little audio from this because I think
this is extremely important. I'm so glad they're doing this,
but I'm cautiously cautiously optimistic because I hope this isn't

(19:33):
just another political ploy. You know, my problem is a
trust problem. But you know, they're talking about the problems.
And if they had a bunch of people, a bunch
of journalists, any know, was there. There were others that
were there that were you know, talking about their experiences
and this is the you know. And then they're talking

(19:54):
about looking into the financing of this terror network. And
that's exactly what it is. It's a terror network. And
this is Trump talking opening up the meeting with some
opening comments, it.

Speaker 18 (20:06):
Should be clear to all Americans that we have a
very serious left wing terror threat in our country. Radicals
associated with the domestic terror group Antifa and other far
left extremists have been carrying out a campaign of violence
against ICE agents and other officials charged with enforcing federal law.
In Chicago, anarchists have surveiled at least four local ICE

(20:31):
facilities and posted diagrams of the buildings online meaning nothing
but bad, accompanied by photos of specific ICE agents that
they're targeting one in particular, who's a top person and
a great person, a great patriot. In July, approximately a
dozen ANTIFA line milletant storm the ICE facility in Texas
and then lured offices out of the building before firing

(20:54):
dozens of rounds at police, shooting one Texas officer in
the neck. And in Portland, Oregon, Antifa thugs have repeatedly
attacked our officers and late siege to federal property and
an attempt to violently stop the execution of federal law.
In addition, two weeks ago, radical left terrorist in Dallas

(21:15):
conducted a sniper attack on a local ICE facility, killing
two people and leaving behind a note that read, hopefully
this will give vice agents some real terror.

Speaker 12 (21:26):
So why this hasn't been dealt with a long time
ago because I think the establishment wants it to be
in place. Obviously, I mean, judging from what the media
has done with supporting it, this is really a disgusting
what they do, you know, I mean they're aiding in
a betting into the destruction of our country. You know,

(21:48):
the media really is the enemy of the people. But
this is Attorney General Pam Bondi on this subject.

Speaker 19 (21:52):
Thank you, President Trump.

Speaker 20 (21:54):
And as you made clear, Antifa is a domestic left
wing terrorist organization. We've seen him on video for years
because they wanted to be seen, and they.

Speaker 13 (22:04):
Got away with it.

Speaker 20 (22:05):
They beat journalists, they attacked courthouses, they attack police stations,
They docks and assault our law enforcement officers. The Biden
administration let them commit these crimes with total impunity for years,
so did Democrat leaders like Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson.
Last week, independent journalist Nick Sorder was arrested just for

(22:28):
protecting himself against Antifa. I saw it online and I
called Nick. I couldn't believe what happened. He was pushed
down and assaulted. Yet the local police arrested Nick, not
the Antifa thugs who did this to him. Antifa feels
empowered to operate in the open because weak Democrats have

(22:49):
turned a blind eye to their actions. Their hatred for
President Trump and for law and order agendas fuels their violence.
We've seen more than a one thousand percent, one thousand
percent increase in attacks against our ice agents since January twentieth.
Secretary Nome is out there fighting for you firsthand to

(23:12):
keep our federal officers safe, to keep our federal buildings safe.
And we're not going to have it anymore.

Speaker 21 (23:18):
These thugs.

Speaker 20 (23:19):
We saw what's happening in Portland and Chicago, and you
saw it happened in Dallas.

Speaker 12 (23:26):
No longer.

Speaker 20 (23:26):
This is not activism, it's anarchy. We can't and we
will not let mask terrorists burn our buildings, attack our
law enforcement, and intimidate our communities.

Speaker 12 (23:38):
All right, sounds tough. I hope they mean it.

Speaker 9 (23:43):
Too.

Speaker 12 (23:43):
Time will tell. This is DHS Secretary Christy.

Speaker 22 (23:46):
Let's not make any mistake. These individuals do not just
want to threaten our law enforcement officers, threaten our journalists
and the citizens of this country. They want to kill them.
Their agenda is to destroy the American people in our
way of life. And this president is standing in their way.
He is stopping them from bringing their death. And there's
destruction to the individual citizens in this country that just

(24:08):
want to raise their kids and their grandkids in peace
and in safety. I want to also thank everyone around
this table for being so bold and so brave for
standing up and recognizing the threat that Antifa is to
our way of life. By recognizing how advanced they are,
how sophisticated their networks are, how they've infiltrated our entire
country and we're seeing them play out with their tactics

(24:30):
from city to city, and how they have built out
their funding mechanisms, and Sir, I also want to thank
our Treasury Secretary for his work and getting to the
bottom of these funding mechanisms and individuals who are perpetuating
this violence on our American cities. I was in Portland
yesterday and had the chance to visit with the Governor
of Oregon and also the mayor. They're in town and

(24:53):
they are absolutely covering up the terrorism that is hitting
their streets.

Speaker 16 (24:59):
While you talked about of.

Speaker 22 (25:00):
The stories of our ice agents, our Border patrol agents,
how they have been attacked, how they have been shot at, injured,
the damage that they've done, these leaders and these local cities,
along with Pritzker and Johnson ignore what's going on, or Sir,
they're helping Antifa cover it up. We have arrested dozens
of individuals that are Antifa members or affiliated with them,

(25:23):
and I want to thank our Attorney General for prosecuting
them and making sure they never see the light of
day again. They have been so bold and making sure
we're bringing those individuals to justice. One of the individuals
we arrested recently in Portland was the girlfriend of one
of the founders of Antifa, and that we are hoping
that as we go after her, interview her, and prosecute her,
we will get more and more information about the network

(25:45):
and how we can root them out and eliminate them
from the existence of American society. I want to thank
the new journalists here today for telling their stories and
for being able and willing to go to the streets
and to cover what's happening here in America. Many times,
a legacy media has looked the other way, refuse to.

Speaker 16 (26:02):
Tell the stories.

Speaker 22 (26:03):
The networks have not really focused on what this is
and what damage it is doing to our country, and
how this network of Antifa is just as sophisticated as
MS thirteen, as TDA, as Isis, as Hezbola, as Hamas
as all of them. They are just as dangerous. They
have an agenda to destroy us, just like the other
terrorists we've dealt with for many, many years. And today

(26:26):
is the day that we have a president that won't
tolerate it, and we'll stand up and fight for the
American people.

Speaker 12 (26:32):
Okay, we're almost up to the break time, so we're
gonna go ahead and take the break and when we
come back, we'll bring up our guest, Jeff Gilson, will
be joining us if everything goes as planned. Maggie'shammer dot Com.
Maggie's Hammer is the name of his book, and we'll
we'll get into some of this antiva violence and possibly
the funding networks that go along with it that support it.

(26:54):
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Speaker 12 (31:14):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America. We
got Jeff Gilson joining us this half hour. Jeff Gilson's
a retired lawyer, development consultant, political strategist and speech writer.
He began his career crafting speeches for Margaret Thatcher. He
spent years as a key operative for the British Conservative Party,

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gaining unparalleled insight into global power structures. His book, Maggie's
Hammer is a meticulously researched and gripping expose that unveils
and unravels a complex web of money laundering, arms deals,
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Gilson's thirty year investigation traces covert operations from the Iran
Rock War to Russian financial schemes, revealing covert ties to
Robert Maxwell, Israeli intelligence, and the Russian mob. Jeff Gilson
is joining us today on Governor America and we're very
very happy to have him. Thank you, Jeff for being
with us today.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
That it's my pleasure, and thank you for having me.

Speaker 12 (32:20):
Yeah. Vicki Davis is also here. Say hi, Vicky, Hi, Yeah, Hi, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
I think I think you were supposed to go first,
but I beat you to it.

Speaker 12 (32:35):
That's okay, now, this uh, you know your your book.
I need to get a copy of that and have
you back to discuss that, because that sounds very intriguing.
I just first learned of you yesterday actually, and so
I'm a little behind as far as reading your book,
but I'm very eager to get a copy of it

(32:56):
and uh and and read that because it sounds very,
very very intriguing. Just really short, can you give us
a bird's eye overview. My understanding is that you had
a friend who was murdered or I shouldn't say murdered,
but died in a very mysterious circumstance, and you began
investigating that and it led you somewhere you did not expect.

(33:19):
Is that a correct assessment?

Speaker 9 (33:22):
That is a very good assessment and saves me a
lot of time. I was, you know, your listeners will
immediately pick up. But I have the English accent. I'm
in facts American, but I was born in England on
a United States Air Force space so I was. I
grew up my first thirty years in England, and I'm

(33:43):
a British and American citizen. I was looking to become
very active in the British Conservative Party as a member
of parliament, my friend and political mentor Hugh Simmons, who
is the subject of the book, was also looking to
do the same. November nineteen eighty eighty turns up dead
in some local woods. Money was missing from his client's account,

(34:05):
his law firm's clients account. Nothing to do with me,
I hastened to add. And that was pretty much open
and shut. And we're seeing this a lot with assassination
attempts at the moment that are in the news. A
narrative that's being advanced that seems to close the book
too early. Well, that happened back then, and it didn't

(34:28):
make sense to me. So I started asking all the
right questions in all the wrong places, and for two
years found myself on this amazing rollercoaster of intelligence intrigue internationally,
and corruption in high places. And it wasn't what I
wasn't looking for downy wasn't I expected to find out
that mainly my friend wasn't till I thought he was.

(34:50):
And there was a bounds account in Switzerland that makes sense.
Closed the book and that's it. But no, it appears
that he was money laundering for a vast network of
armstealing that was going on in the eighties because of
the area arm war and connections with market Aucture and
other leaders in Europe and the United States, and those

(35:12):
networks have continued until the present day. So the book
Maggie's Hammery is a sort of a chronicle of the
adventure how I put together the pieces which helps me
try to understand and of other people understand how to
get to the bottom of things like the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. I finally paints a picture which, to be honest, again,

(35:33):
I ended in the eighties, but I've kept track of it,
the money and the people, and they haven't gone away.
There's still with us today, which it helps to explain
some of these headline issues that otherwise don't seem explainable.

Speaker 12 (35:46):
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the Charlie Kirk assassination. I'm
guessing that you're thinking that we're not getting all of
the truth from the government as to what really happened
in that scenario, exact right, to be really.

Speaker 9 (35:59):
To be absolutely yes, yes it is. I think it
is correct. But to be fair, we are all of
a spitballing about the assassination of Charlicoke, which was a tragedy.
Must never forget that first and foremost, it's a human tragedy.
But we were in the media with spitball There's a
very good chance that a lot of the information that

(36:19):
we would like about that assassination is not being made
available because the alleged assassin is still alive. And I
would imagine that Cash, Mattel and Pambondy want to do
absolutely nothing to stop the possibility of a proper prosecution,
and if they start releasing information and engaging in what

(36:39):
we would regard as transparency, it may undermine the case.
So to be fair, that may be part of it.
I am more concerned about the the fact that what
we do know doesn't seem to make sense.

Speaker 12 (36:51):
There we go, and.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
That fits back into what I was discovering with you.
With you, my question was was the suicide or this murder?
Because it doesn't make sense as suicide, and I discovered
it was murdered. With Charlie Kirk, the question is was
this alone rogue assassin with a grievance or was there

(37:12):
something more going on? I think there was something more
going on.

Speaker 12 (37:15):
Well, I think it's because things don't make sense. You
use the term we're spitballing in the media, and I
think that, yeah, maybe that's the case. But I think
part of the reason why we're spitballing is because we
don't have answers. I mean, there's nothing really that we
can do other than do some speculation, examine what little
evidence that we have. Even the video evidence is largely

(37:38):
not being released. The only thing we have is from
spectators in the crowd, and to try to do a
forensic analysis of some of these videos. You know, it
seems that you know, all campuses, it seems have are
covered with surveillance, and yet we have very little video
evidence from this event, you know, and from the alleged

(38:00):
perpetrator or perpetrators that actually have you know, were involved,
and so there's a lot of I think basic questions
that could be answered, or at least could be answered
more satisfactorily, and they're not being answered without compromising the investigation.
So that's just kind of my take on the whole situation.

(38:21):
What do you think.

Speaker 9 (38:22):
I think that's a good take, and I think that
what we can do is look at what we do
have and wonder, first of all, why do we have
it at all? Why do we have this? Are we
being fed not docted information, but chosen information, and is
there anything about it that is strange you. What struck

(38:45):
me was this He apparently stole seven million dollars from
his law firm's account and I was a senior employee.
I didn't know what was going on, but apparently it
was missing, and yet he didn't run away with it.
And one of the things I discovered about Hugh, and
when you are looking at something of this, you have
to be brutally honest with yourself. Hugh was not a

(39:08):
pleasant person. I have a fondness from Rosians. They tend
not to be pleasant people. He was not a pleasant person.
He would quite happily have run away from his family
with the money and gone to South America, if that's
what he was intending to do, But he didn't. He
turned up dead in the woods. That doesn't make sense.
He left no suicide note for his children, who, while

(39:32):
being a bit of a cad, he did love his children.
That didn't make sense. It didn't make sense that. It
didn't make sense to me that he would do any
of this. So you start with something and you've got
to be honest and brutal with Charlie Kirk. What I
know what we all know from the little that we
do know is that this was a highly proficient undertaking.

(39:56):
I'm late Indians now, but I went back to college
late in I went and returned. We didn't return. I
went to Clemson University, So I know exactly what you're
talking about, Taran. Certainly before kevinber particularly during COVID, everything
became much more secure. All the buildings that Clemson have
key key card passes. There are CCTV out the cameras everywhere.

(40:21):
You can't just wander on to a roof. It is
very difficult to get onto a roof. You're worth supposed
to believe that they disturbed, and he clearly was disturbed.
This much we know a disturbed twenty two year old
managed to walk onto campus dressed in black, with sunglasses
covering his eyes and a hat carrying at least one,

(40:41):
if not two, large black bags. I'd stop right there.
You wouldn't have got halfway through the campus at Clemson
looking like that, let alone at a big event that
is going to be politically controversial. And he managed to
walk onto campus, go into a building, get onto the roof.
Take one at you're at kill shot. I've read the

(41:01):
reports of experts of this guy called Marcus Allen, who
seems to have been quoted a lot. He was a former
marine sniper. He says, two hundred yards. That's not easy.
You've got to be trained. Manages to walk back off
the roof but out of the campus and not be stopped.
And the only reason he was caught was because he

(41:22):
gave himself up. That is way too proficient for a
twenty two year old who is disturb Now, that's my view,
that's my starting point with Charlie Kirk. The two other
things that really get me again, and I'm not even
going to get into cameras moving around. Charlie Kirk not
interested in that because we don't know enough. But we

(41:42):
are presented with pictures that were released by the FBI,
and we are presented with the video of him on
the roof. Number one. The whole point about having cameras
on college campuses, and your listeners may not know this
isn't to try and pick up assassins. It's actually just
stop sexual assault is a huge problem on campus and

(42:05):
therefore they are high definition purity cameras. Why are all
the pictures blurred? Why are these pictures always blurred. It
defeats the purpose of the camera at A university president
like Jim Clemons at cleansing would be saying, take it out.
This is no good to me. I'm my chief of
police to be able to see faces. Well, we don't.

(42:27):
That's number one. Number two. People have talked about the video,
and you know he carrying one bag or two baggers.
Absolutely no one that I know of to date is
asking the much more important question. And I'm waiting for
someone who is technical to question me on this as
I understand it's CCTV cameras are static if they can move,
if they move, because somebody sat in an office somewhere

(42:49):
moving it. The video camera following allegedly Tyler on the
roof is panning, it's moving.

Speaker 12 (43:00):
I'm wondering if they didn't.

Speaker 9 (43:01):
Cracking the alleged killer.

Speaker 12 (43:03):
Yeah, I'm wondering if they didn't like zoom in on
that particular camera with editing software and track what was
in the shot. But you bring up a good point
as far as the blurriness of it.

Speaker 9 (43:16):
I hear what you're saying, but I actually see the
camera moving, Okay, all.

Speaker 12 (43:21):
Right, Yeah, Well, and that brings up. Another point is
why don't we have a closer shot, you know, because
there should be multiple views of the same thing. Why
do we only have that one blurry shot of him
jumping off the roof.

Speaker 9 (43:34):
And I'm like, well, if you're releasing these videos and
if you're releasing the pictures to say we've got the guy,
it's okay, everybody calm down, show us a close up
of the face. But one other thing that did appear,
and this is about as far as I can go
on this, is that in amongst the pictures that were
released by the FBI on the same day, certain media

(43:57):
had a picture of a close sun of a face
with somebody allegedly wearing the sad place. Now, Darren, it
could be photoshopped, it could be AI, but whatever it is,
it has a pid one or two places. Never appeared
since I've got it on my computer. But that face
is not Tyler.

Speaker 12 (44:15):
Mm hmm, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I believe there's I don't know,
Tyler may very well have been involved in some way,
and I think he probably was in some way. But
at the same time, was he alone or was he
just a patsy? And I think I kind of leaned
toward the ladder. But you know, the degree to which
this was, this whole thing was a celebrated by the

(44:38):
left in this country is really quite frightening, even if
you have a political opponent, I mean, to celebrate such
a high profile individual or anybody really for that matter,
this extreme violence is taking place to celebrate it, you know,
the rhetoric from political leaders, the media on both sides,

(44:59):
and social media algorithms that amplify certain things. It leads
to the question, really, I mean, are we headed toward
civil war in our country? What do you think?

Speaker 9 (45:12):
Well? I mean, the first thing I would say this
that the reaction to Charlie Kirk's death, the celebrating of
someone who's died, is revolting. And I'll go ste Tue,
I'll be even handed. There has been bad rhetoric from
both sides. Somehow, Darren, in the last twenty years, all

(45:35):
in passion has translated into no holds barred. I don't
believe that rhetoric causes violence. I don't believe that guns
cause violence from Great Britain, lives cause violence. Violent people
or disturbed people cause violence. But if we give ourselves
permission to engage in no holds barred rhetoric. It allows

(45:56):
people who are otherwise disturbed or agitated. It gives them
permit to do something they might not otherwise do. And
both sides need to pull back on this now to
a very great extentment. And I'll share with you I
am no longer a Democrat, but I still describe myself
as a small liberal. Started with Donald Trump people, and

(46:17):
I noted it in twenty sixteen. I would say to
my Democrat friends, who I was still involved at that time,
calm down, stop this. He is the properly nominated candidate
of the Republican Party. Stop with the nehilistic language. Stop
with this. Well, I hope that it gets off on
the elevator alive. Where is this coming from? And then

(46:38):
immediately he was elected, Democrats around me started delegitimizing his election.
Now I know this had happened to some extentment Obama,
but it went into turbo charge under Donald Trump and
since then it has escalated. And what I say to
my friends on both sides the polical idees, stop delegitimizing

(47:00):
the process. Whatever the process is, whether it's the DOJ,
whether it's the law, or whether it's elections. That's the
system that we have and if you delegitimize it, you
undermine it. And if you say that it's no longer
fit for purpose, then you are encouraging people to, if
not take up arms, go overboard, go no holds barred,

(47:23):
and Charlie kirk assassination is almost the focal point because
it has been it has been grim since then are
we coastless a civil war? I think we are in
the red zone.

Speaker 12 (47:35):
Yes, I agree, And the only thing I would say
I agree with your last comment, I just I do
think that there is a difference between questioning certain processes
and rooting out corruption of those processes perceive what corruption
at least, and undermining them. And there are a lot

(47:55):
of absolutely yeah, yeah, So I mean, I think that's
really a perfect segue into Antifa actually, because the reason
why I think a lot of these Antifa i'll just
call them monsters are doing what they do is because
you know, most people, when they are engaging in bad
behavior or any behavior, but especially bad behavior, they have

(48:19):
a sense of justification of their of their crimes, of
their misdeeds, and with with Antifa, you see that in
terms of that, I really believe In fact, one of
the journalists at this White House roundtable this past week
actually said that she went under cover. She said that
they actually told her that we're fighting white supremacy, We're

(48:39):
fighting all of these you know, what they view as
just causes. And so it's kind of a case where
the end justifies the means in their minds, and and
and so I think that that's really the thing that
everybody needs to keep in mind. They're fighting a battle,
they feel justified in fighting. I don't know how you
dislodge them of that. I mean, these are phantom enemies

(49:03):
that they think they have. This is an ideology, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (49:07):
Well, I would take it one step further. I was
involved who occupied in twenty twelve, and lots of very
interesting people were involved. We just had the Great Recession.
I remember my first meeting that there were some extreme
left wing his presence and anarchists. They go by different names.
We'll call them antifa. I call them mantifa, Antafa antifa.

(49:30):
There was also a banker who lost his job, an
advertising agent wearing wing tips and the suit the last
one he had who lost his job. There was me
in a middle and we all wanted to get together
and discuss what had gone wrong, what do we do next?
And time and again, everything that we were did was
marked by these people clad in black. They didn't mask

(49:53):
at that stage, trying to disrupt. I befriended somebody called Brian.
He said it wasn't as real name, but he called
them up. Brian, who actually was a wonderful guy, great
sense of humor, but he was a national organizer of
and he said, fill in the gap, black block Antifa,
occupy doesn't matter. He said, the greatest weapon that we

(50:13):
have is that the left, the moderate left, keep pretending
we don't exist. They go out and they say antifer
is anti fascist. My mother was an anti fascist. My
great grandfather was an anti fascist. Antifer doesn't exist, Yes, people,
it does exist. And what it does is it it
pretends that it's disorganized and amorphous and therefore is not dangerous.

(50:37):
What Brian told me, laughing, was we're highly organized and
we are very violent. We do not believe in anything.
That's why I go one further than you. They don't
believe in the cause. If they're telling me they believe
in the cause, even that is cover. They believe in
one thing. They want to tear down society comes down
to it. It sounds almost childish, but it's true. Is

(50:57):
they don't like being told what to do.

Speaker 12 (51:01):
So they're anti government, anti social architecture, they are.

Speaker 9 (51:07):
They are anti everything. And I said, well, what about
what about we liberals? So he said, we hate you,
the worst right wing, the thugs. I'm going to mention.
I'm going to say, our boys, they're easy because we
understand them. We go and fight with them, the worst
people of liberals because they keep wanting to reform and
they sound reasonable. We don't want to reform. We want

(51:28):
to tear down. And we have a playbook. And he
showed me this photocopied bundle of documents and said, in
here this we we go to wherever the wherever there
is a focal point. If it's tearing down statues, if
it's Columbia University and I've seen him on camera, or
if it's you know, occupy places it's New York. Wherever
it is, we go. We stand at the back. We

(51:50):
tell people how to occupy a building, how to deal
with the police, how to set up an encounterment, how
to avoid being on camera. This is why we carry umbrellas.
To the camera is taking pictures of us, and he said,
we are very organized, and we exist. We are dangerous,
and we are violent, and all we want to do
is tear down society.

Speaker 13 (52:11):
Well you know what that corresponds to the plan to
break up the United States and well, probably Canada, well
I know Canada and probably Mexico into regional economic zones,
which of course would be the end of the United

(52:33):
States as a nation state. So I can see where
an antifa.

Speaker 12 (52:40):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Jeff.

Speaker 9 (52:44):
Yeah, that that is probably true. Although Brian would laugh,
and I'm not being rude to you, Vicky. Brian would
laugh and say, we only think about one thing. Where
do we go tomorrow to tear down.

Speaker 12 (53:00):
H Yeah.

Speaker 13 (53:01):
He may not be privy to Yeah, he may not
be privy to the big plan, which does originate out
of the Breton Woods Agreement and the international agreements that
have been signed. I've got lots of documentation on that.

Speaker 12 (53:22):
Well, the question I got is, you know, because because
where he goes tomorrow, this all is really being steered
by an organizational structure, is it not. I mean, don't
they get their marching orders from whoever is funding this
whole thing?

Speaker 9 (53:38):
Well, yeah, Brian's one of them.

Speaker 12 (53:40):
Oh okay, he made this very good.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
And I said, what are you doing in Chapel Hill?
He said, what the point about Chapel Hill? He said,
it's the one place in the country. It's not Portland,
it's not New York. Remember this is twenty twelve, but
Chapel Hill. The encampment here is the only encampment which
the local municipality has allowed. So we know we're not
going to suffer harassment from the police. That's why we're here.

(54:03):
But he said, I am one of the national organizers,
and he said, we make it. We go to great
length not to be seen organizing. And I evidenced this
for a local newspaper because one of the things they
did was they occupied a building in town. Doesn't matter
what it was, they occupied the building, and one way
it was wasn't occupied. The next minute it wasn't. And
I got wind of the fact that they were going

(54:25):
to do this, and I told the press and the
presenter there and the pressent we there's nothing going on
this and people wandering across there only look like they're
going into the building, but there's nothing organized. And I said,
look at that person over there, who I know is
called Vincent. That person over there who's called Mike. Look
at Brian. They're all on smartphones talking to each other,

(54:46):
and they direct and they looked, and they said, if
you hadn't told us that, we wouldn't have noticed. No,
Now this is the this is the thin edge of
the wedge. This is Antifa. It is very very organized,
and it's organized to become disorganized. And he said why.
And I had long conversations and it turns out as
stupid as it sounds. They just don't like being told

(55:08):
what to do. But they have been since they like
a year nineteen seventy, remarkably successful, increasingly successful, because every
time there is something that disrupts society, either Great Recession
or COVID and makes people unhappy, they are right there
on the front line fermenting the unhappiness. And liberals are

(55:30):
also they're excusing it. Well maybe they have a point
of view. They don't have a point of view.

Speaker 12 (55:35):
They're just violent, yeah, exactly. And the media are lapdogs
to it all. Hey, we're just about out of the
time here, but go ahead and promote your book one
more time for us.

Speaker 9 (55:47):
Well, that's very kind. It's called Maggie's Hammer, Naggi e
apostrophy s. You can just google Maggie's Hammer and Jeff Gilson,
that's Jeff.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
With a G.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
You'll find a way to buy it, and that would
be great. And as I say, it explores the mysterious
steps of my friend in to its neverman and eighty
eight turned out to be a murder. Turns out he
was involved laundry, money for arms networks and human trafficking
that way.

Speaker 12 (56:12):
Yeah, we'll definitely have to pick up a copy of that,
And definitely I hope you'll come back because we got
a lot more to discuss after I've had a chance
to read the book. Thank you so much, Jeff.

Speaker 9 (56:22):
To come back and thank you.

Speaker 12 (56:24):
Yeah, godspeed to you, sir, God bless you. We'll talk soon.
Thank you, We'll be back.

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Humphreys County Sheriff Chris Davis told press that Accurate Energetic Systems,
the company that ran the facility, is cooperating in the investigation.

Speaker 30 (59:18):
They are here with us, the facilities here with us.
They have discontinued operations. They're focusing on their families, their employees.

Speaker 29 (59:29):
The cause of the explosion has yet to be determined.
Officials report that search and rescue teams were kept away
from the site for hours due to burning debris and
the potential risk of a second explosion. The scene has
since been stabilized. A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas came
into effecting Gaza on Friday, the Israeli military said, hours
after Israel's cabinet approved a deal to pause the fighting

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and exchange the remaining hostages for Palestinian prisoners. Tens of
thousands of people who had gathered in Wadi Gaza in
Gaza in the morning started walking north after the military's
announcement at noon local time. Beforehand, Palestinians reported heavy shelling
in parts of Gaza throughout Friday morning, but no significant
bob bardmut was reported after that. Democrats are not giving

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up on the fight to include healthcare in government funding,
but Senate Majority Leader John Thune says ending the shutdown
is the priority. He was asked on Foxes the Story
with Martha McCallum if any Democrats are showing signs of
crossing over to help Republicans overcome the filibuster.

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We'll see.

Speaker 31 (01:00:27):
I mean, not yet, but there have been some conversations,
but I think again they are hearing from the far
left activists.

Speaker 29 (01:00:34):
He says, Republicans need just five more votes to pass
the continuing Resolution. Democrats say the GOP wanted to shut
down so President Trump could shrink the federal government force
and gut healthcare from millions of people. Meanwhile, Senate Minority
Leader Chuck Schumer denies he's placating the left because of
fears he'll be primary by New York Democrat Congresswoman Alexandria

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Acasia Cortez. A Virginia based political action committee says clear
that the Democrat candidate for governor is refusing to abandon
her endorsement of a controversial attorney general candidate, J Jones.

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AFNs Chack Groening has more.

Speaker 32 (01:01:09):
Thursday nights debate in Norfolk was the only debate in
the twenty twenty five gubernatorial race. Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears,
the Republican nominee, took every opportunity to challenge Democrat Abigail
Spanberger about the J. Jones scandal and why the former
congresswoman has not abandoned her support for the Democrat attorney
general candidate, who faced backlash of originally surface text mesages

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suggesting Virginia's former Republican House speaker should get quote two bullets.

Speaker 12 (01:01:33):
In the head.

Speaker 32 (01:01:34):
Even one of the moderators pressed her on that topic.

Speaker 33 (01:01:36):
Miss Memer, I understand what you're saying about the voters,
but for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse
Jay Jones or fifteen seconds?

Speaker 34 (01:01:44):
Yes or no?

Speaker 17 (01:01:45):
We are all running our individual races, except to every
voter to make their own individual decision.

Speaker 32 (01:01:50):
Brush lesbon is, executive director of Family Foundation Action of Virginia.
He says Spenburger refused to give a straight answer.

Speaker 35 (01:01:57):
There was two minutes of Abby just fumbling around, bumbling, stumbling.
Winson just pointing out the fact that she's still refusing
to say it, and Abigail wuldn't say it. She wouldn't
pull her endorsement back, and she couldn't answer that question,
even as the moderators kind of held her feet to
the fire and kept coming back and saying, all right,
you're saying a lot of words. Are you endorsing Jay Jones?

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Yes or now? And she wouldn't answer that question.

Speaker 32 (01:02:21):
Schletzman says, even though Sears had a great debate performance,
she still faces an uphill battle to win the election.
I'm Chad groaning.

Speaker 29 (01:02:29):
National Guard troops are patrolling in Memphis for the first
time as part of President Trump's Federal Task Force. The
deployment comes a day after a federal judge in Illinois
blocked troop deployment in the Chicago area for at least
two weeks.

Speaker 16 (01:02:42):
It was on clear Friday.

Speaker 29 (01:02:43):
How many Guard members were on the ground in Memphis
or were expected to arrive later in Illinois, two US
senators were denied access to an immigration enforcement building. Trump
is pushing to deploy the Guard in several US cities.
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Karina Mashadow won the Nobel Peace
Prize on Friday, winning recognition as a woman who quote

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keeps the flame of democracy burning amid a growing darkness.
The former opposition presidential candidate was lauded for being a
key uifying figure in the once deeply divided opposition to
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From Female Regions five and ten. This is the second
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It continues to be the eleventh of October twenty twenty five.
As we get right back into the show here. I
felt that that was a very productive, although too short,
of an interview. We're certainly going to have to have
Jeff Beck because I think it's extremelyant and important discussion.

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But the big thing that stands out for me, Vicky
is his comment that they don't really have an ideology,
Antipa doesn't. Their whole ideology really is just to this
destroyed society.

Speaker 13 (01:05:42):
Yeah, we had a guy like that up in northern Idaho,
and I finally, you know, after just watching him for
quite a while, it did come out that's what he was.
He was an anarchist and their objective is just to

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break things apart, yep.

Speaker 12 (01:06:05):
And and it fits really perfectly into the whole New
World Order scam, because in order to build a new
World order, you first have to destroy the old and
that's really where I think Antipha fits in the role, uh,
you know, and and that's why the media promotes it massively,
you know. But I really appreciate the fact that this

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gentleman Jeff Gilson that we just visited it with last
half hour, he pointed out that he's he's a liberal,
you know, because this isn't a conservative liberal divide. This
is something everybody should come together in encounter because we
all know that the destruction of our society is not
good for any of us. And I wish people who

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are on the left that's promoting this. I think these
these ravenous tigers are you know that they can play
with them and cuddle them and and pet them. You
know that they're not somehow going to turn on them,
and do turn on them. I mean, there are left
wing journalists who are out there covering it.

Speaker 36 (01:07:07):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:07:07):
One of the ladies that were at that Trump round
table specifically said she says I had Trump to arrangement syndrome.
I got the audio here, maybe we'll play it as
time progressive. She said, I had Trump to arrangement syndrome.
And she says it was this issue that got me
over that it was this issue that caused me to
rethink things because I was out there on the street

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with the mainstream media covering these events and I was
attacked by Antifa. So that's that's the thing. Folks, they're
not your friends. You can't cuddle them. We need to
treat them exactly how they really are, their terrorist organizations
and terrorist groups. But let's go to the phones. Let's
go to Art and Georgia has been hanging for a while. Hey, Art, welcome,

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come on in.

Speaker 36 (01:07:56):
Hey guys, you're gonna love this one.

Speaker 12 (01:07:58):
Okay.

Speaker 36 (01:08:00):
I I could get into that video, the rooftop video
that y'all we're talking about, and uh, because there was
some things about that that really stood out to me.
But only if we have time after I get to
what I really called it about.

Speaker 9 (01:08:15):
And that was.

Speaker 36 (01:08:17):
One of my favorite topics. And you know, I love
how I listen to these idiots. Well, Antifa is a
you know it is, is a decentralized they're not organized,
blah blah blah. Poppycock. Okay, it's poppycock. Anybody tells you
that they are decentralized, they're not organized, anything like that,

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ask them a simple question. And I'm gonna I love
naming names, and I'm going to name names. If anybody
ever tries to tell you that they are decentralized, they're unorganized,
ask them a simple question. If they are decentralized, if
they are unorganized, who is funding them? Where does their

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funding come.

Speaker 12 (01:09:08):
From Yeah, well that's exactly that puts the lie to
it all. I think some people are I think some
people hold on. I think some people think that their
definition of disorganized means that they are they Maybe they
don't have an LLC, or they don't have a uh
you know, they don't have corporate papers. Maybe they're just

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a loose knit group of people. But yes, you're right,
of course they're sophisticated. Of course there's a lot of organization.
There is a military operations. They're organized like a military operation,
you know, like a essentially, they're a pair of military
type group.

Speaker 13 (01:09:52):
Yes, I agree, I agree with them.

Speaker 36 (01:09:55):
So let's name names, and I love to name names,
and anybody listening. You can kill on the internet. You
can research this, although this does take many, many, many,
many many hours to track all of this down, but
it can be done if you're dedicated and you're willing
to do the hard work. So here is Antifa's decentralized network.

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We have to break them into three categories. Your street
groups and soldiers, your support groups, and then your funding.
Well what are the street groups and the soldiers? Well,
these are things. These are groups like Rose, Sentiantifa, elm
Fort John Brown, Gun Club Eugene, ANTIFA out of Oregon, Atlanta,

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EDAPA out of Georgia, Pittsburgh, ANTIFA out of Pennsylvania, Refuse Fascism,
and of course the ever popular Jane's Revenge. Hey, well,
the next group of people, Well, that doesn't sound organized.

Speaker 9 (01:10:57):
Does it? Well?

Speaker 36 (01:10:59):
What about the next group of people? And this would
be your support groups such as the National Lawyer's Guild.

Speaker 13 (01:11:07):
Yes, International, that's a communist organization.

Speaker 9 (01:11:12):
Yes.

Speaker 36 (01:11:13):
And for something that's not organized, Antifa International, it sounds
pretty organized. And what about the Community Justice Exchange. And
for those of you who don't know who that is,
think TIDES Foundation. Yep, okay, who is Tid's Foundation. I'll
give you three guesses.

Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Who don't count's funds TIDES Foundation, about their Open Society Institute,
Open Society Foundations as well.

Speaker 36 (01:11:43):
So now that brings us to the big question. If
they're so unorganized and decentralized, where does their funding come from?
Well this has to be broke into two categories. First
of all, your nonprofits, the TIDES Foundation, Oops, there there
are again. How about the Alliance for Global Justice? How

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about the Open Source Foundation? How about Fidelity Investments Charitable Fund?
How about the Schwab Charitable Fund.

Speaker 12 (01:12:13):
Wow.

Speaker 36 (01:12:14):
Well, then there's the second part of the funding, and
that is crowd funding such as act blue, Patreon, fundraiser,
Action Network, and of course book sales.

Speaker 12 (01:12:32):
And the other part about.

Speaker 36 (01:12:34):
Something that is decentralized and unorganized. Sure sounds like an
awful lot of organization to me.

Speaker 37 (01:12:41):
Exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:12:42):
Yeah, of course it's organized.

Speaker 36 (01:12:43):
Where does the funding come from? And when we talk
about funding, not only where does the funding come from,
but what banks are involved?

Speaker 12 (01:12:53):
Yeah, well that's the thing. You know what one thing
that stands out in my mind that Trump said at
that meeting, and I think it's important that he had
the meeting. Hopefully it goes you know, supposedly there are
working on and already have unraveled a lot of the funding.
The Treasury Department is supposedly working to uncover some of

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these ties, and so it sounds like they're working on this,
and I sincerely, you know, I tend to be kind
of cynical, and I don't know if people have kind
of hinted, you know, got that hint from time to time,
But I genuinely am cautiously optimistic because the noises that
I'm here, you know, in the past administrations have pretty

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much ignored look the other way, including the trumpet the
first Trump administration. Of course, a lot of this stuff wasn't,
as you know, prevalent and prominent until about twenty twenty.
A lot of people this became big time on the
radar during all the riots all across the country. But
this has been going on in places like poor in

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Seattle for many years, so it's not really a new thing.
And but now it's I mean, it cannot continue. You're
not going to be able to have any civil discourse
if every time you hold a public meeting, you know,
to get together with your conservative friends, you're any political rally.

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I mean, if you got these thugs showing up to
create violence, to provoke, to attack, to beat people up,
I mean, you can't have a civil discourse with that
going on. So this is a massive threat to our country.
And so yeah, absolutely, I'm glad you name the names,

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and I'm sure there are plenty probably that you haven't named.
But this has to stop. And I think we we
all can agree. I just wish we could reach more
people on the left.

Speaker 36 (01:15:00):
Yeah, we're being and you know they can do all
these like you I'm cautiously optimistic because until I see
people being until I see purp walks, I see indictments,
I see convictions, and I actually see real consequences, i e.
Serious prison time, I don't believe a damn word coming

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from none of them.

Speaker 12 (01:15:26):
Well, some of the all, some of the foot soldiers
have received real prison time. But I think what you're
saying is we want to see some real prison time
from the people that are supporting the terror networks. That's
what really has to happen.

Speaker 36 (01:15:39):
See, you know you want to impress me, mister Trump,
Miss Bondi, mister Patel, mister Bongino. You've all been caught
in lies already. Okay, we don't caught y'all. Lion already,
Donald Trump, we don't caught youa lion to the people already.
You want to impress me. Let me see George Sorows

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in handcuffs. Let me see people like Andy Stern in handcuffs.
Let me see Barack Obama in handcuffs. You want to
impress me, You want to convince me that you're really
doing what's the best interest of the American people. Let's
go after the big fish exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:16:21):
The names yep, exactly.

Speaker 36 (01:16:23):
Here the names, and I'll tell you what you got,
the era you got people like you, mister Trump. You
talk about how great Glenn Beck is. Glenn Beck can
give you all of this information. Who do you think
set me on this trail?

Speaker 12 (01:16:39):
Glenn Beck? There you go. Hey, I got a run.
But I appreciate the call of very good points and
very good call. Thank you so much, sir. Yeah, it's
got to stop, folks, It's got to stop. And I
can't think of anything more important than stopping the terror
attack against our country. Unraveling the networks, and this is
what we've been calling for for many, many years, and

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now we have a real chance.

Speaker 13 (01:17:05):
It's kind of like a network of psychopaths.

Speaker 12 (01:17:08):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'll tell you what we almost well,
we're coming close to the bottom of the hour. Bottom
of the hour. Are going to be visiting with Reggie
Little John because we mentioned the twenty twenty mess with
the riots and everything, but there was a lot of
discontent going on with the lockdowns, and I think that
there is an effort right now to push forward this

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World Health Organization Pandemic treaty, and this is going to
be ultimately the ultimate lockdown mechanism. They're going to be
locking us down all the time for a number of
different reasons, not just COVID, not just some virus. But hey,
if one health is tied to this, and if they
decide and unilaterally, through no real science at all, that

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the climate is being affected by our human activity, guess
what they're going to be shutting us down. And it's
going to be a health emergency, won't it, VICKI?

Speaker 13 (01:18:07):
Yes, well, and the strategy for world government has been
the environment and public health. Okay, public health is environmental health.
That was something I didn't realize when I first started

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researching our healthcare system and what they were doing. But
public health is an entirely different line of business. Yeah,
so that's that's the way they're planning on controlling us.

Speaker 12 (01:18:44):
Let me just play some audio here. I mentioned Brandy Cruz.
She was the one that mainstream media reporter who was
attacked by aniphod for trying to do her job.

Speaker 38 (01:18:53):
You're going to hear us be very fired up today,
and you can tell. And it's because some of us
have been covering Antifa for fifteen years and have never
had anyone in a position of authority, even acknowledge their existence.

Speaker 13 (01:19:04):
And I'll also tell you that.

Speaker 38 (01:19:06):
I think that had you not done, the single most
powerful thing you've done to deal with this scourge has
been acknowledging that Antifa is a real thing. I genuinely
believe there would be people at these tables who would
be dead today and would have been killed in Portland
had you not called them a terror organization and said
we're going to bring the full weight of the federal
government to bear. I talked to Katie Davis Court in

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Portland the other day. She'd been assaulted all summer and
she said the same thing. That seems quick to violence
as soon as you made that designation. So they're thinking
in their heads, they're worried. There's been two dozen or
so arrested in Portland. They don't want to go to
federal prison. There's this video of them, one of them
who is in the face of an ICE agent and
then he's in custody shaking. Once you take the mask off,

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they're nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:19:52):
Okay, what she just said there is that they don't
She said that they're not as uh, well, let me
just let me just continue. I sorry, I lost my
train of thought.

Speaker 38 (01:20:06):
I was told by probably a dozen people not to
tell you this. I'm going to tell it too anyway,
because it's relevant to what we're talking about. I'm living
proof that you can recover from TDS. I had strong
Trump derangement syndrome.

Speaker 19 (01:20:20):
For probably eight years.

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
It's one.

Speaker 38 (01:20:26):
This is one of the reasons I recovered from it.
And by the way, it's much better to not have TDS.
I'm happier, I'm healthier, more successful. I even think I
got a little more attractive cot rid of my Trump arrangements.
In Yes, you know I watched. I'm a reporter in Seattle,
and frankly, I could not care any less what any
of you have to say about this meeting.

Speaker 12 (01:20:46):
Couldn't she's addressing the media, not care any less.

Speaker 38 (01:20:48):
We're not here for you. I'm not here to convince
any of you that antifa is a real thing, because
if you have not come to that conclusion by now,
you are never going to come to that conclusion because
you don't want to see it, and you're going to
go and you're gonna say it's a bunch of right
wing conservative influencers who are here spinning a tale.

Speaker 19 (01:21:04):
I was one of you.

Speaker 38 (01:21:06):
I was a mainstream reporter in Sattle For ten years,
I was a TV reporter on the streets doing my job,
and I was still assaulted by Antifa. So it's not
about being conservative. It's about people who go there and
show what they're doing. And when I saw after all
those years that the media wouldn't be honest about what
was happening, that Democratic politicians wouldn't be honest about what

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was happening, I thought, well, gosh, if they're not being
honest about that, maybe they're not being honest about President
Trump either, And it opened my mind to just looking
at things for what they were. And now I find
you quite funny. Actually no, it's like I said, I'm
much happier about it. But you know, for me, again,
I could not care any less of the stories that
they go to print. This is what I care about.
We have three and a half years. Nothing is guaranteed,

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although I think if Democrats keep it up, will probably
have Republican presidents for the next three decades. But nothing
is guaranteed, and so what I want to see over
the next three and a half years is a full
court press to dismantle Antifa once and for all in
a meaningful way. I know, Andy, we talked before this
about some ideas. That's really what we want to I
don't care what the media says. I don't care what
Democrats say. They will never wake up to this fact.

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So we want the federal government to take as many
of these cases as possible. Look at the interstate travel
between Portland and Seattle when it comes to these people
who are committing violent acts, and hopefully in three and
a half years they will be a shell of their perverss.

Speaker 18 (01:22:29):
He's close to it, and it's Santifa and many others. Unfortunately,
there are many others, bad ones. Most have been named
terrorist organizations. There're a couple that we're going to but
I think we've got it pretty well covered. But there
are many others. But very specifically, today's Santifa, and it's
really bad, and we're going to get it cleaned up.

Speaker 12 (01:22:50):
Okay, Well, I certainly hope he's serious about that.

Speaker 13 (01:22:54):
Yeah, well I don't. Yeah, he might be serious about Antifa.
But what they just did to Idaho right is just
totally counter.

Speaker 12 (01:23:07):
You're referring to the Kataris. The Kataris are coming, listeners,
The Kataris are coming.

Speaker 13 (01:23:14):
They're giving them land for a foreign air force.

Speaker 12 (01:23:19):
Well, they're they're giving them the ability to build a
facility on our air force base, is my understanding.

Speaker 13 (01:23:27):
Well, yeah, but there's lots of land out there, so
so it might be adjoining it. Okay, The fact is
they're giving them land for a an air force military base.
The Guitar Air Force.

Speaker 12 (01:23:42):
Of Guttera, Qatar has played a major role as a supporter, promoter,
and safe haven for the Muslim Brotherhood. Bingo got it
across the Arab world. So my question is is this
is this yet an another example of the United States

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working with terrorist groups internationally to fulfill certain aims, only
to fight them later. I mean, how many times do
we have to keep watching the same rerun over and
over again before we learn we're bringing them here to
the United States to train them for what so that
we can fight them again tomorrow.

Speaker 13 (01:24:24):
Well, my understanding is that they will be like an
independent military on our shores.

Speaker 12 (01:24:33):
So maybe they're training them to police the United States
citizens exactly after things fall apart.

Speaker 13 (01:24:39):
There's a horrifying thing, and they're affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood,
so figure it out, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:24:47):
Yeah, Well, that's certainly doesn't bode well for the future.
And I don't understand this, this hobnobbing and this material
support for what amounts to governments aid in the bet
and support terrorist organizations even as the Trump administration is
fighting terrorists groups like Antifa on our shores, were we're harboring,

(01:25:12):
supporting and building up terrorist groups internationally to potentially fight
us another day.

Speaker 13 (01:25:19):
Yeah, it kind of seems like Antifa is a distraction,
you know, the clowns out there that that you can
watch while the serious business is going on behind the
scenes that they don't talk about very much.

Speaker 12 (01:25:40):
Yeah, but Antipas is pretty serious too. I mean a
lot of people have been beaten.

Speaker 13 (01:25:45):
Uh well sure, no I'm not. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 12 (01:25:48):
Half killed people have died because of this, these.

Speaker 13 (01:25:52):
Monsters, but it gives you a show to watch so
that you.

Speaker 12 (01:25:56):
Don't watch another show at.

Speaker 13 (01:25:59):
The intern national level. What's happening to our country? And
just recently, you know, this is like a third time?
Is the charm they were talking about in an article
that I found the Prosperity Project up in northern Idaho, Okay,

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So the picture I put together there was a Prosperity Project.

Speaker 12 (01:26:28):
In twenty seconds Oklahoma.

Speaker 13 (01:26:33):
Anyway, Prosperity Project is the breakup of the United States
into economic zones and who controls the economic zones corporations.

Speaker 12 (01:26:45):
There you go, all right, we got to take the
break here and we'll come back in a moment with
Reggie Little John. She's going to be joining us here
in just a moment if everything goes as planned, and
she's going to talk about this World Health Organization pandemic treaty.
Will be back.

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Speaker 12 (01:31:12):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America. Joining
us on the line right now is Reggie little John.
Reggie is a law school graduate, attorney, activist, and founder
of Anti Globalist International and Women's Rights Without Frontiers. She
has worked to build on international coalition against forced abortion,
gender side and sexual slavery in China, and she has

(01:31:35):
testified before numerous national legislative bodies around the world and
has briefed key decision makers, including US the US State Department, Congress,
and the White House. She's working tirelessly, ladies and gentlemen,
to inform everyone about the dangers of this WHO pandemic
treaty and the digital ID systems which are are starting

(01:31:57):
to break out out everywhere as we see. We were
talking some about this last week and it's a very,
very concerning and I think we need to come back
to this topic over and over again until people get it,
because if this comes into fruition, nobody is going to

(01:32:18):
have any freedom. All you have to do is look
at China as your model. But certainly there are other
countries that are implementing this as well, and I think
I'm afraid that the US might not be far behind
if people don't wake up and realize what might end
up happening here. So anyway, Reggie, welcome, welcome on in.

Speaker 21 (01:32:38):
Thank you so very much for having me.

Speaker 12 (01:32:40):
Yeah, it's always a pleasure. Hey, I read that your
organization has tracked a dramatic rise in grassroots engagement on
global issues. Could this be that we're finally starting to
gain some traction and on getting people to focus on
important sovereignty issues.

Speaker 21 (01:32:57):
Well, I believe so. But you know something, it's a
race to the finish.

Speaker 36 (01:33:03):
Okay.

Speaker 21 (01:33:04):
So, as you probably know, the kure starmer head of
the UK, recently announced that everyone in the UK is
going to have to have a digital ID if they
want to work right right, and and so his pretext
for this, and I call it, I believe it is
a pretext is uh that they don't want illegal workers,

(01:33:28):
that they're trying to stem the tide of immigration. But
the thing is that they have digital ideas in other
countries like Germany and elsewhere that that has not stemmed
the tide of immigration. But there have been tremendous protests
over in the UK about this, and I believe it's because,
as you say, we and others and certainly you know

(01:33:51):
I have been doing this. I think for as long
as anyone has okay.

Speaker 9 (01:33:55):
Like.

Speaker 21 (01:33:57):
Right in the beginning of COVID when they said that
they're gonna established like a vaccine passport. I co founded
the Stop Vaccine Passports Task Force precisely to deal with
this issue, which is that any digital idea can give
rise to a social credit system like the Chinese social
credit system. And so the people in the UK have

(01:34:18):
pushed back really hard. Cure Starmer's plan appears to be collapsing.
But this is the thing, as you said in your
opening remarks, these are popping up everywhere under all different
kind of guys. Is because in my opinion, I believe
that the globalists they see that their time is short
and they're trying to snap the trap shut before people

(01:34:42):
wake up enough to.

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
Escape.

Speaker 21 (01:34:45):
So that's how I see it right now.

Speaker 12 (01:34:47):
Yeah, over in the UK, I think the plan that
he was trying to implement, or is trying to implement,
is he Verify. That's really you know. The problem is
there's a lot of conservatives like Everify. Now they may
not call it that over there, but it sounds an
awful lot like what it is. I see it as
a dangerous direction toward the digital id I believe it's

(01:35:09):
a huge step in the direction of implementing a denial
of work for those who are not government approved. I mean,
that's exactly what it really is boils down to. If
you couple Everify with the digital ID, no one's going
to be able to buy or sell without government approval
because you won't be able to work. You know, people
go for this because it's for the illegals, but what
they fail to realize is everyone has to go through

(01:35:32):
the scanning process and everyone is subject to whether or
not the government approves your ability to work. And so
it would be very easy to change everify once it's implemented,
to not just apply to the whether or not you're
legally in the country, but whether or not you're legal
law authorized to work because the government doesn't like your

(01:35:55):
behavior or whatever. What do you think of that.

Speaker 21 (01:36:00):
Think that you are so right and you are one
of the very very few people that has the vision
to see this and this is and you also have
put your your finger right on probably the biggest problem
challenge in America that we have, which is that conservatives

(01:36:20):
can okay, both liberal the ones who are progressive love
this stuff. They're so called progressives love this stuff because
it can give rise to a tutalitarian, surveillance police state.
But unfortunately the Conservatives have been lulled asleep by the
idea that this is going to help, you know, uh,
send the tide of illegal immigration, illegal work, and also

(01:36:44):
that you know, it'll be easier to access our medical records,
and it will be easier to verify people to vote.
And we want fair elections. We want people only who
are citizens voting, And so the Conservatives have been lulled
asleep about this. And as you say, once this digital
platform is established, so any interoperable international or even national

(01:37:09):
digital platform, once once the infrastructure is established, it can
be anything can be attached to it. So what I
believe is the ultimate goal of these digital IDs is
if you go over to the World Economic Forum, they've
got a chart called digital IDs, all right, and you

(01:37:31):
can see from this chart that you will need a
digital ID to access healthcare and treatment, monitor your health
devices and wearables, to open a bank account, to carry
out online transactions, to travel and in China, even to
get on the bus all right. To access humanitarian response.

(01:37:52):
So if there's some kind of a disaster in your area,
you're gonna need a digital ID to get food or
water or whatever, to shop and conduct business transactions and
secure payments online. To access social media like to even
know be on Facebook or Twitter or Instagram. To access
government services, file taxes, vote and collect benefits like Medicare

(01:38:17):
and medicaid. Telecommunications for you to even own a device
like a phone or a computer that would be sue
to be a telecommunications device. And then we also need them,
or they want to need them for something called smart cities,
which we can talk about. So just like you said,
okay that once they set it up for one thing

(01:38:39):
like the ability to work, they can attach it to
everything else and they can monitor you. What kind of
does that monitors their people on all of these different
areas and comes up with a score of how compliant
and reliable of a Chinese kindness doormat a person is.

(01:39:00):
So if a person follows all the rules, gets all
our vaccines, never criticizes the government, they can lead what
looks like a normal life. But if you put up
a think about anything, or even if you janewaw or
anything you do, it's all attached. Okay, your score is
going to go down. So if you criticize the government

(01:39:21):
if you refuse to be vaccinated. Of course in China,
tho'll drag you out and jab you regardless of.

Speaker 12 (01:39:27):
What you say.

Speaker 21 (01:39:28):
But your score can go down. And the first level
of public punishment is you can lose your job, your
kid will not be able to go to a private school,
you will not be able to borrow money to buy
a home or start a business. Next level of punishment
is it will separate you and sever you from your
bank accounts, in your credit cards. So there's the buy

(01:39:50):
and sell element of this. And then in China, third
third level down of punishment, if you keep it up,
they'll just disappear you. And these digital like d can
in the hands of bad actors, perform the perform the
same functions. Right now under the Trump administration, we can
trust him that he's not going to do this to us,

(01:40:11):
but you know what, he's setting up an infrastructure that
if some you know, a nefarious person gets elected president
after him, then they can just trap us in a
digital gulog.

Speaker 12 (01:40:22):
Yeah, well, I'm cuts we go ahead, VICKI.

Speaker 13 (01:40:28):
I was going to say, we already are trapped in
a digital gulog. It's just that the majority of people
don't know about it. In nineteen ninety five, the G
seven countries define a list of eleven global systems that
the countries of the G seven would build. And in

(01:40:55):
the United States, it was the National Institute's Ofs and
Technology that was selected to be the leader for the
United States for these global systems. And so you have
these seven these seven countries, I think it's five now,

(01:41:15):
but they've been building the global police state, the worldwide
information infrastructure.

Speaker 12 (01:41:24):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 13 (01:41:26):
Been all paid for by corporations. Corporations are building these
systems of surveillance and control.

Speaker 21 (01:41:34):
Yeah, go ahead, Regie, Oh Vicky, I just want to
say you are You are completely right about that, and
you are one of the most knowledgeable people I know
about this. Just you know, being interviewed by you, I
can see that you have a very deep knowledge of
this and that you've been following me since for a
long time. So I really appreciate that. But I would

(01:41:54):
I would say that even according to the globalists, it
it's not complete yet, okay.

Speaker 13 (01:42:04):
Right, yeah, it's not completely yet.

Speaker 21 (01:42:06):
It's not complete yet, okay, So let's just let's just
break this down for a second. You're right in the
sense that they can sort of hamhandedly punish us like
they did to the Canadian truckers. Okay, the Canadian truckers
they did a you know, a protest against vaccine mandates,

(01:42:27):
and so they cut them off from their credit cards
and a bank account. That's just like just you know,
ham hands, like you can't get into any of your
But what's not there yet, okay, is two things. One
is a central bank digital currency, which which is programmable.
In other words, you don't have to go if they

(01:42:49):
want to just manipulate you, if they say you're heading
in the wrong direction, you do stuff they don't like,
but you know, they want to give you a warning.
They can shut down certain aspects of your your ability
to have access to your money. So like, let's say
that they established some kind of a carbon uh footprint
thing where they're they they're tracking your carbon use, and

(01:43:11):
let's say that you're that they you know, let's say
number one, either you've you've gone over on your carbon
or let's say you've put you published something on Twitter
x saying something that they don't like. They can just
say you can't buy plane tickets now, you know, like
they can they can manipulate you. They can control you

(01:43:32):
in a minute way. But they need to have either
a centralized currency or a stable coin which is also
programmable to do that. And they don't have that in
the United States. Yet they do have it in some countries.

Speaker 12 (01:43:48):
Yeah, hey, Reggie, did you see how Vietnam is just
deleting It was just announced they're deleting over eighty six
million so called unverified bank accounts. These are accounts that
have not been they're not been verified under their new
digital ID scheme. And uh, and they passed a law
that all accounts, corporate or personal, have to be verified
with biometric identification, and the ones that don't will be

(01:44:11):
wiped out. Uh. This pretty much confirms our fears about
about this whole digital ID system. But it's not reserved
for Vietnam, it's for it's for the entire world ultimately.

Speaker 13 (01:44:21):
I think it's one of those global systems, right.

Speaker 21 (01:44:25):
You can you can see what could happen to us
if we have bad actors in the government from other
countries like like Vietnam, you know, and and what Britain's
trying to do. Canada I think is ahead of us
on on this. But then let me just say the
other thing, Vicky, that that has not been completed, all right,

(01:44:46):
And this is according to Larry Ellison, who is behind
a lot of this stuff. Is that that that all
of these different aspects when I just said the digital
I D and I named all those different aspects of
it like travel, you know, financial services, et cetera, all
of those we are being tracked already in every one
of those areas, but they're siloed. They are not put

(01:45:08):
together the way that they are in China. And in
order to have an effective system to control every individual,
all of that information that I've just mentioned from all
those different aspects has got to be connected to each other.
And so Larry Ellison is saying things like, well, we
need massive data centers in order to connect all this stuff,

(01:45:29):
you know, And that's the final that's the plant. In
order to truly serve you, you know, and make this
really work so that everything's really convenient, everything needs to
be connected, and that hasn't happened yet. So they have
enough on us to do the kinds of things like
that the Canadians did to just you know, sever you
from bank account of your credit cards, but they don't
have enough to manipulate in a minute fashion the way

(01:45:54):
that they that they want to to control us completely
in every aspect of our lives. And you know, I'm
just trying. My heart is and I just I'm so
grateful to you for helping me by giving me this
platform to sound the alarm. We really really need to
take action against this before the trap snapshut and we
are not able to dissent.

Speaker 12 (01:46:15):
Yeah, have you heard the term technocracy? You are you
familiar with Pat Wood in his work.

Speaker 21 (01:46:21):
I'm totally familiar with it. I am totally familiar with it.

Speaker 12 (01:46:24):
Yeah, that's really what I think they're trying to build
is a rule by so called experts, so called science.

Speaker 42 (01:46:31):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:46:32):
You know, but during the twenty twenty COVID mess, it
was all about you know. In fact, we heard Faucy
himself say he was the science. So basically he's going
to be the dictator. And if you don't believe Faucy,
if you don't listen to him, if you don't follow,
you don't do whatever he says, you are running a
foul of science, you know. And it's not hard to

(01:46:53):
see how had this system been put in place back then,
how we would have had a far different outcome, tutulitary
and tyrannical as things were back then. I mean, they
would have taken away our ability to buy anything. And
and then as you point out they did with the
Canadian truckers. It's it's really frightening. And so if people

(01:47:15):
don't stand up, they don't realize, they're not going to
realize what they're losing, you know. And and Donald Trump,
you know, honestly, I got to say, I'm a conservative.
I I believe in promoting conservative leaders. The problem is
is that we've we've been betrayed so many times. I

(01:47:39):
have trust issues.

Speaker 13 (01:47:40):
Reggie, Well, you should because in Idaho we're we're a
conservative state. But during these COVID alleged pandemic, they closed
down all of the small businesses, but they left stores
like cost Marked, and you know, the bigger stores continue

(01:48:03):
to operate.

Speaker 12 (01:48:05):
Yeah. You know, one thing that really comes to my
mind is that, you know, and I'm concerned about I
don't know if you share that all the Republicans in
the in their One Big Beautiful Bill, they originally had
funding for carbon sequestration pipelines, and they were going to
fund the taking of private property from landowners, including farmers
to run these insane carbon pipelines. And my point in

(01:48:28):
bringing that up is I'm concerned that we we have
to be on guard. Regardless of who's in office. People
might get a false sense of security with the GOP,
the the wt O won't have their treaty ratified. I
don't know, what do you think of this?

Speaker 21 (01:48:44):
Oh, I agree with everything you just said. So the technocracy,
So there are people that you know that are arguably technocrats,
that are like very high in terms of advising President Trump.

Speaker 12 (01:49:03):
Mm hm, oh, yeah, I.

Speaker 21 (01:49:04):
Don't think he's a I don't think I don't think
he's a technocrat. I really don't. I think that he is,
you know, a populist president and that he is pretty
transparent in terms of what he stands for. But I
also think that there are people around him who maybe
really are technocrats, because if they weren't, they're sure doing
a great imitation.

Speaker 12 (01:49:22):
So Elon Musk, his grandfather ran Technocracy Inc.

Speaker 13 (01:49:24):
As I recall, Yeah, he was one of the founders.

Speaker 12 (01:49:28):
The founders yep.

Speaker 21 (01:49:30):
And so what the what the vision is of a
technocracy is truly terrifying. The idea is that really politicians
and government is really kind of messy and an annoyance.
And what the people who should really be running society
are the experts, you know, the brilliant people who are

(01:49:51):
designing AI and or who are experts in whatever field.
And so the idea is to replace democratic or republ
looking at government with tectocrats with a technocracy and it
would be run by AI.

Speaker 12 (01:50:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:50:08):
So you have Larry Ellison, you know again my favorite person,
saying his vision for the future, which is that every
one of us would be wearing a body camait. Okay,
have you seen this clip of him. It's unblievable, everybody.
This is a speech he gave it oracle like shortly

(01:50:29):
before the election, like something like October of twenty twenty four.
Everybody in the world would be wearing a body can
at all times, so that that would keep police on
their best behavior because everything they say, everything they do
would be uploaded to AI and so then you know,
so they would be in our best behavior, and all

(01:50:50):
ordinary citizens like you and me would be also be
on our best behavior because at every moment, everything we say,
everything we do is going to be uploaded into AI.
I uh, and so that if there's anything that's a problem.
He says, like, for example, we won't have mall shootings
anymore because AI would detect an escalation and we just

(01:51:10):
send in drones. You can get there so much faster
than the police. And it's like this, this is this
is the rip. And then and then if you want
to go to the bathroom, you can say, okay, AI,
could you shut down now for a couple of minutes.
I want to go to the bathroom. So with permission,
AI will will shut down and stop recording. According to
Larry Ellison, it will not really stop recording. It will

(01:51:31):
continue recording in case you're doing something in the bathroom
you shouldn't be doing, or in case you're not going
to the bathroom. But you can only get that footage
with a.

Speaker 38 (01:51:40):
With a court order.

Speaker 43 (01:51:41):
This is his vision.

Speaker 21 (01:51:42):
And so what do you need in order to do that?
You need AI. But you need massive data centers of course,
built by Oracle, Larry Elison's company, in order to be
analyzing all of this massive AI constantly in real time.
And you know, I says this now building massive data center.

Speaker 12 (01:52:01):
You know what this reminds me of? This reminds me
of lifelog. You are you familiar with the Lifelog program,
which was from the Pentagon. They were putting forth this
through through DHARPA several years ago in the early two thousands.
And uh, this was supposed to be a government program
that monitored everything that you do, every melia ate, every

(01:52:22):
movie you watched, from cradle to grave, everything.

Speaker 9 (01:52:26):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:52:26):
And it created a Lifelog pipeline right to you know,
the government, right to Big Brother. And of course they
got pushed back and so they dropped it the very
next day Facebook was born.

Speaker 9 (01:52:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:52:39):
Well, that's that's a total information awareness and it truly
is total information awareness, and it's going to turn people
into just objects in the computer system. You'll be you'll
be like a robot, you know, because you can't do
anything without getting marks downward, you know, against your against

(01:53:05):
your record. So I've called it the post human world.
And that's what they're that's exactly what they're implementing, is
a post human world.

Speaker 12 (01:53:15):
Yeah, exactly, very very alarming. This is a global agenda.
As you point out, we talked about Vietnam, but there's
ID for Africa, which is progressing. You talked about the UK.
They have their Digital ID and the the Attributes Trust
Framework they're in the UK, they're rolling out the standards
for Digital ID, the Digital Idea Agenda. People need to

(01:53:36):
wake up and realize that this is going on and
you will not have any freedom meeting, any ability to
move at all, do anything.

Speaker 21 (01:53:44):
Well, what it yeah, what it is is, it's a
way of stamping out descent yep. Because you know, I
mean part of what the who is obligating countries to
do and who is only one aspect of all this,
but is to prevent misinformation and disinformation. You mentioned the
Pandemic Treaty.

Speaker 36 (01:54:04):
In the beginning.

Speaker 21 (01:54:05):
Those words are in there that that nations are being
a blocked to prevent misinformation and disinformation. So that's one
looks like thought police, right like after you have said something,
they will censor it. Which is bad enough, they want
you to they want to prevent you from saying it.
So in other words, they look at you know you
or me, you know Reggie little John. Look what she

(01:54:26):
said in this last interview. We didn't like that, so
let's prevent her from having any further interviews and just
just silence you. And then number one that's and so
that's so they can do. But number two, then you're
going to censor yourself even in your most private conversations.
You come home, you know, for dinner with your spouse
or your family, or your friend or whoever it is,

(01:54:47):
you can't even have a free conversation because you're going
to be wearing a body cam at all times. And
so you So this is, this is a way of
making sure that that no one is ever ever able
to build a movement to organized against any kind of
a total turn regime will because anybody will be picked
up immediately, any such activity would be picked up immediately

(01:55:09):
and quashed. Who knows, maybe by drones.

Speaker 12 (01:55:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, in the smart cities, go
right in, right in with that, and maybe we can
talk about that next time, because that's extremely important as well,
the smart city networks, because yeah, this is these are
going to be I mean permitting. I mean, I can
think of nineteen eighty four by George Orwell there were

(01:55:33):
corners where Winston Smith was able to hide from the cameras.
But what they're building right now, there will be no
place you can hide, no place right.

Speaker 21 (01:55:45):
Right, especially since you know the satellite surveillance of every
inte of the world. You kind of even go out
into the forest and hide. I mean they might goat
you anywhere that you can go.

Speaker 12 (01:55:57):
Yeah, Reggie, we're all just about out of time. Anti
Globalists dot net is our website, Sovereignty Coalition dot org,
Women's Rights Without Frontiers dot org. I highly encourage you
to go check out your websites. Anything else you want
to say, real quickly.

Speaker 21 (01:56:11):
Yeah, just go to anti Globless dot net for this stuff. Okay, okay,
Anti globaliss one word dot net and sign the manifesto.
The manifesto is consistent with everything that we've talked about here.
And what that's going to do is they'll put you
on my email list and then I can give you
updates about all the new things are happening. Very good combating,

(01:56:32):
you know, the globless takeover.

Speaker 12 (01:56:33):
We got to break. Thank you.

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Speaker 29 (01:59:02):
I'm Steve Jordall. Nineteen people are missing following an explosion
at a military munitions plant early Friday morning in Tennessee.
Humphreys County Sheriff Chris Davis told press that Accurate Energetic Systems,
the company that ran the facility, is cooperating in the investigation.

Speaker 30 (01:59:19):
They are here with us, the facilities here with us.
They have discontinued operations. They're focusing on their families, their employees.

Speaker 29 (01:59:29):
The cause of the explosion has yet to be determined.
Officials report that search and rescue teams were kept away
from the site for hours due to burning debris and
the potential risk of a second explosion. The scene has
since been stabilized. A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas came
into effecting Gaza on Friday, the Israeli military said, hours
after Israel's cabinet approved a deal to pause the fighting

(01:59:50):
and exchange the remaining hostages for Palestinian prisoners. Tens of
thousands of people who had gathered in Wadi Gaza in
Gaza in the morning started walking north after the the
military's announcement at noon local time. Beforehand, Palestinians reported heavy
shelling in parts of Gaza throughout Friday morning, but no
significant bob bardmut was reported after that. Democrats are not

(02:00:11):
giving up on the fight to include health care and
government funding, but Senate Majority Leader John Thune says ending
the shutdown is a priority. He was asked on Foxes
The Story with Martha McCallum if any Democrats are showing
signs of crossing over to help Republicans overcome the filibuster.

Speaker 12 (02:00:27):
We'll see.

Speaker 31 (02:00:27):
I mean, not yet, but there have been some conversations,
but I think again they are hearing from the far
left activists.

Speaker 29 (02:00:35):
He says, Republicans need just five more votes to pass
the continuing Resolution. Democrats say the GOP wanted to shut
down so President Trump could shrink the federal government force
and gut healthcare from millions of people. Meanwhile, Senate Minority
Leader Chuck Schumer denies he's placating the left because of
fears he'll be primary by New York Democrat Congresswoman Alexandria

(02:00:55):
Acasia Cortez. A Virginia based political action committee says it
clear that the Democrat candidate for governor is refusing to
abandon her endorsement of a controversial attorney general candidate, Jay Jones.

Speaker 16 (02:01:07):
AFNs Chack Broening has more.

Speaker 32 (02:01:09):
Thursday nights debate in Norfolk was the only debate in
the twenty twenty five gubernatorial race. Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears,
the Republican nominee, took every opportunity to challenge Democrat Abigail
Spanberger about the j Jones scandal and why the former
congresswoman has not abandoned her support for the Democrat attorney
general candidate, who faced backlash of originally surface text mesage

(02:01:29):
is suggesting Virginia's former Republican House speaker should get quote
two bullets in the head. Even one of the moderators
pressed her on that topic.

Speaker 33 (02:01:37):
Miss memer, I understand what you're saying about the voters,
But for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse
Jay Jones or in fifteen seconds, yes or no.

Speaker 7 (02:01:45):
We are all running our individual races.

Speaker 45 (02:01:47):
Exceup to every voter to make their own individual decision.

Speaker 32 (02:01:50):
Brush Lesbon is executive director of Family Foundation Action of Virginia.
He says Spanburger refused to give a straight answer.

Speaker 35 (02:01:57):
There was two minutes that I'll be just fumbling around
on bumbling, stumbling, Winson just pointing out the fact that
she's still refusing to say it, and Abigail wouldn't say it.
She wouldn't pull her endorsement back, and she couldn't answer
that question, even as the moderators kind of held her
feet to the fire and kept coming back and saying,
all right, you're saying a lot of words. Are you

(02:02:18):
endorsing Jay Jones? Yes or now? And she wouldn't answer
that question.

Speaker 32 (02:02:22):
Schletzman says, even though Sears had a great debate performance,
she still faces an uphill battle to win the election.

Speaker 12 (02:02:28):
I'm Chad groaning.

Speaker 29 (02:02:29):
National Guard troops are patrolling in Memphis for the first
time as part of President Trump's Federal Task Force. The
deployment comes a day after a federal judge in Illinois
blocked troop deployment in the Chicago area for at least
two weeks. It was on clear Friday. How many Guard
members were on the ground in Memphis or were expected
to arrive later In Illinois, two US senators were denied

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access to an immigration enforcement building. Trump is pushing to
deploy the Guard in several US cities. Venezuelan opposition leader
Maria Karina Mashan won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday,
winning recognition as a woman who quote keeps the flame
of democracy burning amid a growing darkness. The former opposition
presidential candidate was lauded for being a key uifying figure

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in the once deeply divided opposition to President Nicholas Maduro's government.
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The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and
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Speaker 12 (02:05:23):
Welcome back to the broadcast. Governed America. This is our
number three it continues to be the eleventh of October
twenty twenty five. Nice to have you with us once again,
Ladies and gentlemen. Uh, you're welcome to call in if
you want six ten, six hundred seventeen seventy six, if
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seventy six or toll free eight four four six four
six eight three seven six. I see that the Taliban

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has pulled the plug on forty million people. According to
Activist Post. They're saying that the entire country of Afghanistan
has just entered a total communications blackout. At five five
pm on Monday, the twenty ninth of September, Taliban authorities
cut the country's fiber optic backbone, reducing Internet and mobile

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con activity to less than one percent of normal operations,
according to Internet watchdog net Blocks. The UN has called
for services to be restored immediately, warning of severe economic
and humanitarian risks. Air travel halted without warning. Reportedly, Turkish
airlines flying into Cobble were not given advanced notice of

(02:06:31):
the internet shutdown. Why would anybody fly into cobble, That's
my first note.

Speaker 13 (02:06:37):
Why would anybody want to the cutting of the fiber
sounds good to me.

Speaker 12 (02:06:42):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, and the thing that
comes to mind is Trump was wanting to call back
that Bagroom Air Force base. Could this have anything to
do with that?

Speaker 36 (02:06:55):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (02:06:56):
A good question.

Speaker 12 (02:06:58):
Everything from border operations to day shopping. They say, bureaucratic procedures,
international trade and tourism has been cut off in an instant,
and diplomatic sources say the shutdown will remain in place
until further notice. Officials have framed the move as a

(02:07:18):
morality measure aimed at stopping vice vices like pornography access. Okay, well,
that's interesting after weeks of progressively severing fiber links province
by province. On the ground, the effective, the effective is boundless,
that's what they say. I think they mean. The effect
is boundless. Throttling phones, banking, customs, media, schools, hospitals and

(02:07:43):
aid work with one sweeping decision. Cobble residents report being
blind without phones and internet that support everyone's day to
day lives, and the outages continue with no clear line
on when they'll be back up and running. Well, it
doesn't sound like they're ever intending if it really is

(02:08:03):
for pornography. But what's interesting is the timing, because this
didn't happen until Trump said he was going to call
back that base. And we know how the CIA likes
to do their operations, you know, the uh the game
of chess, the chess board is spread wide. We have

(02:08:26):
intelligence establishment engaging in regime change everywhere, you know. And
I think Trump played a part in bringing the talented,
you know, bringing the Afghanistan the way it is, because
they helped negotiate the agreement, you know, and I know
conservatives don't like to hear that, but that is a fact.

(02:08:47):
We talked about that on the show a long time ago.
You know, the messy pull out of our troops, that
was a kind of a setup situation. And I'm surprised
at the Biden administration that make more reference to it.
They kind of referenced it in passing, but they didn't
make a big deal of it, and especially the media.

(02:09:10):
But anyway, that's something to keep an eye on. But
it's a good idea. Are a good example of just
how this digital id stuff you can be turned off
in an instant by a tutalitarian government. And I think
that was a great appearance by Reggie Little John.

Speaker 13 (02:09:26):
What do you think Vicki, I thought it was a
great inter view.

Speaker 12 (02:09:31):
Yeah. So I like the fact that we're establishing networks
of people that we can go to for certain issues
and be able to have them come on and repeat, repeatedly,
push and expose the dangers behind the tutalitarian mess that

(02:09:52):
we're seeing, because these are real issues that we're talking about.
And as we said last half hour, nobody's going to
have any freedom if this continues.

Speaker 13 (02:10:00):
Yeah, well, and you can't. You can't take the whole
big picture in one bite. You have to take it
in smaller bites because it's contrary to everything that you
thought you knew and that you were brought up to believe, right,
and so it takes a while to overcome that barrier

(02:10:26):
on your mind, you know, to to open up your
mind to see what's really going on. As the U
as that opening says, opening to your program.

Speaker 12 (02:10:41):
To our program, Yeah, exactly, uh FBI director Cash Hotel.
You know, earlier we were talking about Antifa and as
they are trying to build this new world order, technocratic
police state, you know, and hopefully having setbacks because the
people are waking up to it, realizing what they're trying

(02:11:04):
to do. But they're trying to build this. At the
same time you have the Antifa tearing things apart, and that,
to me is a perfect example of synergistic coordination. You know, uh,
you know, we're supposed to believe Anipha doesn't exist. You know,
Jimmy Kimmel was just out saying that again the other night.

Speaker 7 (02:11:24):
You understand, there's no Antifa.

Speaker 46 (02:11:28):
This is an entirely imaginary organization. There is not an Antifa.
This is no different than if they announced they rounded
up a dozen Decepticons, We've captured.

Speaker 16 (02:11:38):
The troop of Cabra everyone.

Speaker 46 (02:11:40):
And then it was Trump's turn to ratchet up the
rhetoric with fiery images conjured from no one has any
idea where One thing.

Speaker 18 (02:11:46):
I have to say is that Washington, DC was almost
as bad. I don't know what could be worse than Portanly.

Speaker 12 (02:11:52):
Yeah, so Jimmy Kimmel is making fun of the notion
of Antipha, saying it doesn't exist. Yet the media acknowledged
repeatedly the Antipha not only existed, but they were promoting them.
They were saying that they were, you know, altruistic and benevolent.

Speaker 47 (02:12:08):
All punches are not equal morally in the eyes of
the law, yes, but in the eyes of good and evil.

Speaker 16 (02:12:16):
Here's the argument.

Speaker 42 (02:12:18):
They are strictly principled anti fascists, and what they see
in the Trump administration and what they see happening in
this country, they see they see the neo fascism that
we see, and they've taken a principal stand to stand
against white supremacists and white nationalists wherever they may show up.

Speaker 12 (02:12:34):
See again, the end justifies the means. They're punching people
in the face for a good cause. It's a good
cause to punch people in the face, isn't it, VICKI.

Speaker 13 (02:12:45):
That's you know, I could agree with a lot of
their underlying positions, but they have this violent, I don't
know what you would call it, this violent layer on top,
and they make themselves my enemy.

Speaker 12 (02:13:07):
Well, I don't see how you can possibly agree with
anything that they stand for. You're not in favor of
tearing down society?

Speaker 13 (02:13:15):
Are you fascists?

Speaker 9 (02:13:16):
You know?

Speaker 13 (02:13:16):
There?

Speaker 12 (02:13:17):
Yeah, But that's that's just the name, and in reality
they are the fascists.

Speaker 13 (02:13:25):
Well, that's that could be true.

Speaker 12 (02:13:28):
What they want to do is destroy civilization.

Speaker 13 (02:13:31):
M Well, because the under underneath, it's like we're talking
about breaking up the United States into economic regions.

Speaker 12 (02:13:41):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (02:13:42):
So you know, in order to bring in the new,
you have to break and destroy the old.

Speaker 12 (02:13:47):
And that's exactly what it's about, exactly right. Yep. And
here's the media once again promoting Antifa, promoting hey, punging
people in the face for a good cause. But your
nazis a bunch of white supremacists.

Speaker 31 (02:14:00):
In the name antifa, anti fascism, which is what they
were there fighting.

Speaker 12 (02:14:05):
Listen, there's no organization is perfect.

Speaker 37 (02:14:07):
There are some violence.

Speaker 34 (02:14:08):
I think that a lot of people recognize that when pushed,
self defense is a legitimate response to white supremacist neo
Nazi violence.

Speaker 48 (02:14:15):
The problem is to equate the violence in reaction against
bigotry with the bigotry itself. It is to misunderstand the
fact that when you go to cancer treatment, the radiation
is tough treatment, but it is meant to remove the cancer.

Speaker 43 (02:14:30):
There's a group of anti fascists called the Black Bloc,
which do tend to get violent. Their idea is, look,
non violence hasn't worked, and we are going to try
to stop this. But they wouldn't have been there, They
wouldn't have been anywhere near there. Had it not been
for the fact that white supremacists neo Nazis were out
scaring the living daylouts out of most of the people
in that town.

Speaker 21 (02:14:50):
Stauggishness is stugishness wherever it comes from politically, and we
should be the first to call it all.

Speaker 16 (02:14:55):
I disagree.

Speaker 12 (02:14:56):
Yeah, I don't understand what this woman is saying. When
she's saying the white supremacists, where they're scaring the crap
out of people? Who are they scaring the DEEPA.

Speaker 13 (02:15:06):
I don't know. I've never seen that.

Speaker 12 (02:15:09):
I haven't either. Maybe she is, you know, flashing back.
Maybe she did too many drugs, she's having flashback to
the nineteen fifties you know I made.

Speaker 13 (02:15:19):
Or maybe she's just following a narrative that was given
to her exactly.

Speaker 12 (02:15:24):
Maybe she's just a liar. But yeah, and speaking of liar,
you know, Jimmy Kimmel just claimed, oh, there is no Antifa,
but the media acknowledged that there was an Antifa and
they were all in circa twenty twenty.

Speaker 36 (02:15:39):
So you know, you can't.

Speaker 13 (02:15:41):
Yeah, you can't have watched what's going on in Portland
and Seattle for more than six months or a year
without knowing that there is Antifa, right, I've been watching
probably since around twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, something like that,

(02:16:02):
And uh, yeah, there's no deny. If you deny it,
you're a liar.

Speaker 12 (02:16:09):
Yeah, exactly, so FBI director Cash Bettel. He says that
there using a whole of government approach to root out
the funding networks. And I really do hope he's not lying.

Speaker 49 (02:16:21):
Thank you, mister president. Mister president, the American people gave you.

Speaker 12 (02:16:24):
A By the way, he certainly hasn't done that for
the Epstein affair, has he. I'm just sorry I have
to point that out. It would be nice if he
used a whole of government approach to root out who
these human trafficker, who human trafficking victims, these sexual slaves
were to Epstein, who ran them, Who was running those networks,

(02:16:48):
because we got a lot of victims, over a hundred
victims that were sexually trafficked to nobody.

Speaker 13 (02:16:56):
Yeah, well, the I watched a video of a lady
who wrote a book about the diary of one of
the victims, and it seems there was a whole lot
more going on than just sexual trafficking, I mean, and
it had to do with genetics. It had to do

(02:17:19):
with egg harvesting. I maybe cloning. I don't know. But
there's a whole lot more to that at Epstein's story
than we've been led to believe.

Speaker 9 (02:17:30):
Hm.

Speaker 12 (02:17:30):
Fascinating, Yeah, yeah, interesting. All right, here's cash Bettel. Take
it with a grain of salt, but he says, hey,
they're going all out.

Speaker 49 (02:17:38):
Thank you, mister president. Mister President, the American people gave
you a sweeping mandate in your victory in the selection cycle,
and they demanded safety and security for our citizens. And
your administration, with your leadership, has provided us with the
resources that we need, which is a whole of government
approach to go after criminals absolutely everywhere, not just outside
of this country, but within this country. And that takes

(02:17:59):
a whole of government approach. The inner Agency, seated up
here with the Department of Homeland Security, our Attorney General,
a deputy Attorney General, and your White House staffers and
including Steve Stephen Miller's leadership, has allowed us to go
out there and map out these networks. What we are
doing at the FBI is simple. It does not require
rocket science. We are following the money. Money never lies,

(02:18:21):
and that's what it's going to take to bring down
this network of organized criminal thugs, gang bangers, and yes,
domestic terrorists because that's what they are. They are harming
everyday citizens in every single one of our communities. And
the folks you see here on the right and left
there are some of the bravest men and women we
have today. They're reporting the stories livetime because the mainstream
media won't cover it. They're putting their lives on the line.

(02:18:44):
They're standing up for the flag. The least we can
do is stand up for them. So you have my thanks.
I read more of your stories than I do theirs,
because you guys are putting out the truth and we
deserve a country where you are protected as equally as
they are. We in this FBI will go after with
the criminals with the vengeance. We will not rest until
we find every single seed, money, donor organization and funding

(02:19:06):
mechanism that we have. And I want to echo the
Secretary's comments on Scott Bessent, who's allowing us to map
out these networks through their financial criminal activities which has
been going on for decades, And I would like to
remind the American public they built this disease temple of
corruption over decades and in eight short months, mister President,
you have crippled their foundation because of your leadership here,

(02:19:29):
because of the Inner Agency, because of people like Deputy
Attorney General Blanche, and because of Attorney General Pam Bondi's
fearless leadership to go after criminals wherever they are. They
will not be able to hide. They were able to
hide and conspire with prior administrations, and we are exposing
their corruption from within, and we will go to every
single city in this country under Operation Summer Heat and
the other operations we are doing at the FBI to

(02:19:51):
bring these criminals to justice. We will arrest every single
one of them from whatever purchase, sit in private or public.
No matter how your goal or your ambition is, it
will be crushed by the Constitution because the American people
deserve law and order, and that's what we're going to
give you.

Speaker 12 (02:20:05):
I certainly hope. So I want to jump to Andy No.
Andy No, as most of you are aware, has been
around for a long time reporting on these people. He
was beaten twice, almost died. He was there at President
at this White House round table?

Speaker 18 (02:20:20):
Did you no longer have TDS?

Speaker 12 (02:20:21):
I feel very good about so I'm sorry, Ron clip
Let's I don't know what happened there. Okay, maybe thank.

Speaker 34 (02:20:29):
You, Thank you, mister President and members of the cabinet.
I have a lot of gratitude and a little bit
about my background. I'm born in Portant, Oregon. From there,
and growing up, it's always been left being very progressive,
and I liked it. It had cafes and artists and
those who lived in bohemian lifestyle. And in twenty sixteen,

(02:20:50):
I was a graduate student at Portland State studying political science.
I was an editor at student paper there, very progressive paper,
and I was assigned to cover the the election night demonstrations. Well,
the elections night protests turned to riot three days of
violent rioting in Portland, and it was the first time
that I saw groups dressed in black with their faces covered.

Speaker 19 (02:21:15):
This is four years before COVID.

Speaker 34 (02:21:17):
Some of them were waving the black flag of anarchism,
some the red flag of Marxism, and within seconds they
would ravage one street to another, to another to another.
And the next day I would read the legacy media,
which I still read at that time and look forward to,
and I looked up to those journalists and I was

(02:21:37):
really shocked to see that the narrative was that these,
in my view, anti democratic political violence was legitimate acts
of protests because people were they were concerned about racism
or all these other lies. And so for the next

(02:22:00):
four years, I just continued going out with my video camera.
I thought, look, people can ignore what I write because
the spin, but videos can quite speak for themselves. And
in twenty nineteen it led to me nearly losing my life.
I was covering another ANTIFA protest turned right at that

(02:22:21):
point had been routine in Portland, and then I was
ambushed in a mob beating and I had never been
in a fight.

Speaker 19 (02:22:29):
I didn't even.

Speaker 34 (02:22:30):
Realize that I was being assaulted until seconds in, and
the punches came from everywhere on my head and my face,
and I was bleeding out of my eyes and ears,
and then they threw all the drinks in my eyes
to humiliate me further and to.

Speaker 19 (02:22:46):
Laugh at me.

Speaker 34 (02:22:48):
And I was rushed to the hospital in a ambulance
and CT scan and I had subarachnoid hemorrhage, which is
bleeding the brain.

Speaker 19 (02:22:56):
I nearly died. And after surviving.

Speaker 34 (02:22:59):
That, the reporting that I saw on liberal media was
it seemed to suggest that I had deserved it because
they branded me far right, and some even went so
far as to suggest that I may maybe faked my
injuries Above STUDI reporter asked for my medical records, which I.

Speaker 19 (02:23:19):
Did provide, but this felt so.

Speaker 34 (02:23:23):
It's like, because I didn't die in that attack, there
was another round of people who wanted to finish me off,
but I continued. And then twenty twenty Portland was really
the epicenter of the longest political violence.

Speaker 19 (02:23:36):
Those months of riots.

Speaker 34 (02:23:38):
I was on the ground undercover and there was an
assassination there. There was a supporter of Donald Trump and
Aaron Danielson, who was shot dead by a self described
Antifa member who then colad out of state and died
in a shootout with US marshals.

Speaker 19 (02:23:53):
In twenty twenty one.

Speaker 34 (02:23:54):
I returned undercover, naively thinking that enough time had passed,
and was chased through the streets of downtown and beaten
and nearly choked out. The person who was showing trying
to choke me out helped me so tightly that I
had the blood the vessels of my eyes burst, so

(02:24:14):
one of the symptoms where my eyes were completely bred.
After that, and I was hospitalized. So thank you so
much for acknowledging Antifa and for directing your administration to
treat them as domestic terrorists. Is going to be really
challenging because they how they organize is that they are decentralized, autonomous,

(02:24:37):
and they operate on deception, and we're still to this
day told that they don't exist, that it's a figment
of our imagination. I think the dj could look at
federal conspiracy charges the state of California and San Diego
County last year broke up in ANTIFA cell in San Diego,
and I think maybe perhaps the State Department should designate

(02:24:58):
Antifa It's international as a foreign terrorist organization FTO.

Speaker 19 (02:25:03):
So thank you so much for this invitation as the president.

Speaker 12 (02:25:06):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 18 (02:25:06):
Andy, Great, it's so rough time you had so the
chokeout was almost.

Speaker 12 (02:25:12):
The end you felt.

Speaker 34 (02:25:14):
Yeah, that was my only near death experience in my life,
and I'm quite shaken when I think about it now.

Speaker 19 (02:25:22):
It it really.

Speaker 34 (02:25:24):
Feels unbelievable to me that on the streets of America,
that this type of violence against citizens could become so
routine and accepted and cheered on by people. Although you know,
in the immediate aftermath of mister Kirk's assassination, we saw
again that type of depravity player on quite large swilles
of the left. So there's there's a deep sickness that's

(02:25:46):
in this country right now, and it may a lot
to acknowledge it.

Speaker 37 (02:25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (02:25:50):
The amazing thing is you look at Portland and you
see fires all over the place, you see fights, and
I mean just violence.

Speaker 9 (02:25:57):
It's just so crazy.

Speaker 18 (02:25:58):
And then you talk to the governor and she's acts
like everything is totally normal, there's nothing wrong.

Speaker 37 (02:26:04):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (02:26:06):
So the politicians are the enablers. The police are standing down,
the police are thoroughly infiltrated. I believe we have a
full court press on in this country against the people,
against law and order, against peace. This is what you're
watching is the disintegration of a nation. If these people

(02:26:31):
are at this roundtable, especially the politicians in charge, aren't serious,
that America won't last for long. I hope they are.

Speaker 13 (02:26:39):
At the global level, that's the idea. Yeah, take down
the United States, you know, break it up into economic regions.

Speaker 12 (02:26:49):
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What exactly he is worship?

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Speaker 45 (02:31:24):
This laser weapon can strike targets such as drones, rockets,
and mortars, and can do so for a fraction of
the price of other missile power defense systems. The Iron
Beam is an experimental project built by Israel. It could
be used in conjunction with the Iron Dome, which launches
rockets and is considered one of the most advanced air
defense systems in the world. Israel says the Iron Beam

(02:31:46):
could enhance protection against threats from Iran's allies in Lebanon
and Gaza, but some defense experts say the technology has
several weaknesses, including its short range. To perfect the system,
Israel is in talks with the US about coopers writing
on the technology. Here's how the laser beam system works
and why some military analysts say American expertise could enhance it.

(02:32:07):
The iron beam is composed of a laser gun located
on this swiveling unit, a surveillance system that tracks incoming threats,
and a command center where operators give directions. Israeli officials
say the laser gun fire is a beam that uses
one hundred kilowatts of power. That's around one hundred times
the typical electrical power that a household in the US uses.

(02:32:28):
Here's what it looks like in action. This footage from
the Israeli Defense Ministry shows the laser striking down a rocket.
Israel's goal is to integrate this weapon into its arsenal
and also save some money. That's according to military analysts,
who say the laser would allow the country's army to
reduce its reliance on the more expensive iron Dome. One
interceptor missile fired from the iron Dome can cost fifty

(02:32:49):
thousand dollars or more. In contrast, Israeli's departing Prime Minister
and of Tali Bennett, said the iron Beam could do
the same thing for as little as two dollars.

Speaker 51 (02:32:58):
The two advantages one to feel that the cover is low,
and the second is that there is no ammunition. Say
gold is the train of production and logistics.

Speaker 45 (02:33:09):
That's Uzi Rubin, a defense engineer and military analyst. Years
ago he developed earlier defense systems for Israel. He says,
the iron Beam, despite all its advantages, has a lot
of issues to overcome.

Speaker 51 (02:33:20):
This is not a super bullet as a sound disciplined.
One is a short range that is sensitivity to weather,
and the third is locally.

Speaker 45 (02:33:30):
Let's start with the weather. The issue is that the
systems sensors can be hampered in rainy and cloudy conditions.
That means the iron Beam may not be operational in
Israel in colder months such as November and December. According
to Ruben. If the weather prevents it from working, Israel's
Defense ministry says the iron dome could kick in. Another
vulnerability is said to be the range. The beam loses

(02:33:52):
powers it travels through the air, making its impact on
the target less powerful. It's known as the bloom effect.

Speaker 51 (02:33:58):
But it takes the start blooming, the bit widens up.
After a while it's so diluted that it doesn't have
an effect.

Speaker 45 (02:34:07):
And then there's the speed at which it can take
down objects. The period of dwell time before the laser
damages its target makes it slower than the iron dome.

Speaker 51 (02:34:15):
If you push the button, your beam touches the roka
at the speed of light. But then it had to
keep pumping energy into the pooka n it melts or something.

Speaker 45 (02:34:25):
That process could take a few seconds and hamper its
ability to combat multiple incoming rockets.

Speaker 13 (02:34:29):
Reuben says.

Speaker 45 (02:34:33):
On its own, the system could struggle to counter strike
similar to those seen in this video footage where rockets
are fired from position in Gaza City towards Israel in
May of twenty twenty one, still Israel official, so the
Iron Beam could be deployed early next year. Israel's project
comes amid a global wave of interest in laser powered weapons.

(02:34:53):
Countries such as the US, Russia, and China all claim
to work on the technology, which some defense experts say
could be a key opponent in future warfare.

Speaker 12 (02:35:02):
All right, so the reason I opened with that particular
thing in this half hour is this system. That report
was from about a few years ago from the Wall
Street Journal. This system is now being implemented in Israel.
Israeli anti missile laser system Iron Beam ready for military
use this year. I want to thank gour listener Dora

(02:35:24):
for calling this to my attention. A low cost, high
power laser based system aimed at destroying incoming missiles has
successfully completed testing and will be ready for operational use
by the military, the Israeli military later this year, Israel's
Defense Ministry said on Wednesday, So this is going on

(02:35:44):
right now, and I think people need to be aware
of this. I think that they've been using this is
just my opinion, my observation, my belief. I believe that
they've been using these laser weapons, possibly against the people
for a long time, because the only thing this would
explain how some of these fires have been set which
have very very unusual patterns, very very strange, and they're

(02:36:10):
certainly not supposed to weaponize space. The end Mod Treaty
it was against weaponization of the weather environmental weapons, and
I think there was also a treaty against weaponization of space.
But they're doing it, and yeah, I think people need

(02:36:31):
to be aware of it. You know, we get to
pay for all this technology, but it gets to be
used against us whenever they wish for it to be
used against us.

Speaker 13 (02:36:43):
So it's really just you know, the more you know
about what's going on, the more disheartening it gets. Yeah, well,
I actually don't see a way out of it for humanity,
except you know, when they destroy all of this, you know,

(02:37:05):
and restart the world.

Speaker 12 (02:37:06):
I guess, Well, that's a pretty dark look at things,
and I can understand why you would have it. But
I am actually more optimistic now than I have been
for a long time, despite the betrayals. Everywhere I see
an awakening of the population and it's impacting people in power.
I think Reggie little John said when she was on

(02:37:28):
that Starmer here, Starmer looks like he might take a
step back from this digital ID program because he's getting
so much pushback. Now. Granted good they always they never
really abandon any idea. They try to do it a
different way. So everybody has to be vigilant at all times,

(02:37:50):
never give up, never go back to sleep. But the
fact that they ever have to even acknowledge the people's
comments is victory. It's a victory for our efforts. We
have a burgeoning population of people now that are awake,
that are on the Internet, that are spreading the message,

(02:38:12):
that are waking up their family members, their friends, sometimes
even their enemies. But that's what it's going to take,
ladies and gentlemen. It's going to take shoe leather. We
have to be shoe leather patriots. We have to hit
the ground, we have to do the work. And it's
not always fun, it's certainly not always glamorous. But that's

(02:38:37):
what we're here for. I'm firmly convinced that that's what
we're here for.

Speaker 13 (02:38:43):
Well, I yeah, I've thought that too, that for whatever reason,
I was selected for this mission, by whom or when
or where, I have no idea.

Speaker 12 (02:38:56):
But I believe God is raising people up to be
tree truth tellers, to be storytellers, true of the true stories,
the important things that are going on around us. God
is raising up a generation of people that are awake,
that have their eyes wide open, just like your email address, VICKI,

(02:39:18):
eyes wide open, you know, and able to speak, able
to articulate exactly what the plan is, and to expose
the unfruitful works of darkness, as the Bible says, to
reprove them. Uh. This Antipha meeting, This anti Antipha meeting

(02:39:39):
in Washington, d C. This would have never happened, folks,
if people hadn't been on the ground. Thank God for
these courageous journalists that we're attending there. Regardless of what
comes out of this, whether it's something really substant substanti
substantives excuse me, I can't say that word hardly, but

(02:40:00):
whether whether it's something of substance or not, the fact
is this meeting is a victory and I encourage people.
I'll put the link in the show notes. I encourage
you to go watch the entire thing. There's a lot
more to this. We can play little clips of it,
but it is inspiring. The fact that these people are there.

(02:40:21):
They persevered, they've not back down in the face of
fearful demonstrations of violence, and their males and their females,
they have the courage. I mean, think about how horrible
it was, how fearful it was going under cover infiltrating

(02:40:46):
a terrorist organization, Yet that girl did this is journalist
Nick Sorder. He was attacked by Antifa and then he
was arrested by the local Portland plea for defending himself.
He was attacked by Antifa, and then he was arrested

(02:41:06):
by the local Portland police for being attacked by Antifa.
Figure that one out except for the police are in
on it.

Speaker 52 (02:41:14):
The Portland politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their own
citizens just to appease these Antifa terrorists. It's sickening. I've
seen it firsthand obviously. When I went to jail that night,
never expected it to happen. I thought that they were
maybe removing me from my own safety. It never crossed

(02:41:34):
my mind that I was the one that was being
arrested for a crime.

Speaker 16 (02:41:38):
After I was just thrown into a hole.

Speaker 52 (02:41:41):
I heard from the Department of Homeland Security after I'd
gotten out of jail, and one of your I won't
say exactly who it was, but somebody very close to
Secretary Noome over here said that they were legitimately worried
for my safety in the Portland jail. But luckily the
Portland jail was I was the only one there, essentially
because they don't actually arrest people in Portland besides conservative journalists.

Speaker 37 (02:42:03):
I guess.

Speaker 12 (02:42:06):
Incredible. So Christy Noam got a hold of him, got
him out of jail, sinsaying though that he was ever
there in the first place. But let's see, this is
Katie Daviscourt Davis Court. She's a journalist who's done a
lot of undercover work at exposing Antifa, and she's the

(02:42:27):
one I was just talking about who infiltrated their operations.
She was recently attacked by one of them, who hit
her in the head with a pole, and then she
bravely chased her attacker, only to find that the Portland
police wouldn't respond. She had this person pinned down and
they wouldn't do anything.

Speaker 53 (02:42:43):
I mister President, it is an honor being here today,
and I first wanted to start by thanking you guys
for designating Antifa a terrorist group. Is exactly what this
group is. It's a long time coming. I'm an investigative
journalist from Seattle. I worked for the Post Millennial alongside
Ann you know and Pacobic. I have been infiltrating Antifa
cells in Seattle and Portland for the past decade. I

(02:43:07):
know their inner workings and Antifa uses extreme political violence
to crush the civil rights of their political enemies and
believes that violence is justified by any means necessary. But
today I want to focus on what is happening in
Portland at the Ice facility. I've been covering this for
the past four months, and this is a call out

(02:43:28):
to corporate media who has completely ignored this story or
has falsely reported on it. This is nothing short other
than a sustained attack on the United States, which is
being supported by Democratic elected officials. The Portland Police Borough
has completely abandoned several blocks outside the Ice facility, giving

(02:43:48):
away their jurisdiction to a terrorist group who has spent
the past four months harassing, assaulting, and intimidating anyone they
perceive to be against their cause. Not only have federal
agent agents been relentlessly assaulted for more than one hundred
consecutive days, black clad anarchists militants concealing their identities behind

(02:44:10):
black facial coverings have been assaulting reporters just for trying
to cover their crimes. Today, I am sitting here with
a black eye and a concussion after being violently hit
in the face with a metal pole while reporting outside
the Ice facility just this past week. After the attack,
I immediately went to three Portland Police officers who refused

(02:44:33):
to detain the suspect. I took the time to chase
down the suspect in the streets. Hatter held for thirty
five minutes. I was waiting for Portland Police to come
and they never came. Then that's what opened to my
eyes to what this group is actually doing. I watched
twenty Antifa militants help my assault suspect escape into an

(02:44:55):
Antifa safe house that is one block away from the
ICE facility. And this safe house is where Antifa affiliated
protesters are conducting parliamentary operations. It's where they are arresting,
they're showering, they're eating. To continue this occupation. I have
staked out this safe house and have observed shift changes.

(02:45:17):
This group is highly organized, it is being funded through
mutual aid groups, and they have no plans of stopping.
Residents living across the ICE facility have been held hostage
by Antifa. They're begging for federal intervention. The city refuses
to help, and they want you, President Trump, to come
in and restore law and order. I want to stress

(02:45:39):
the importance of taking this situation seriously because when I
first started reporting on this occupation, I went undercover in Blacklock.
I talked to these Antifa militants. I lasted for about
a month. They believe that ICE agents are the Nazi
gestoppo who need to be killed. They told me that directly,
and I think that if this situation is not taken
as seriously as as is, it just a matter of

(02:46:00):
time before someone gets killed.

Speaker 12 (02:46:02):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 13 (02:46:05):
Wow? Brave girl.

Speaker 9 (02:46:06):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (02:46:07):
Yeah, And this speaks to the sophistication that we were
talking about earlier. There is a house, a safe house there.
There are shifts that are maintained, and I really hope
the fads are serious about taking them down because they
could with this. This is a it's just like the mafia,

(02:46:30):
same type of deal. This can be taken down if
somebody who has the authority to do so has the
will to do so, you know. And here we see
from zero Hedge. As federal courts evaluate the propriety of
President Trump's attempts to deploy National Guard troops to Portland
to protect federal assets and agents from radical leftists, those

(02:46:53):
very same ANTIFA miscreants are openly promoting a coordinated laser
attack federal aircraft on Saturday night. So tonight, tonight they're
planning on conducting operations against federal aircraft.

Speaker 13 (02:47:12):
Yeah, you know, that's not the first time that planes
have been targeted with lasers. I remember that from the
early two thousands, the planes for being pilots for being attacked.

Speaker 12 (02:47:30):
Basically, yeah, they have posters printed up. They have actually
printed up posters, menacingly describing the scheme as laser tag.
A post on the Rose City counter Info website invites
readers to deploy themselves around Portland on Saturday night and
to start aiming laser beams at law enforcement helicopters at

(02:47:51):
nine pm. It says, quote, every night for weeks we
are focused, or we are forced to listen to the
threatening rhythm of helicopter blaze as the federal regime spies
on us. This Saturday, October eleventh, at nine pm, you
are invited to fight back. All you need is a laser.
Leave home, they can see where you're the lasers coming from.

(02:48:12):
Go to a park, a field, or some other public place,
and once the clock strikes nine, unleash your being at
the cop at the cop copter, mask up, Coordinate with
friends to throw a laser party. Let's take back the
night together. It won't take many of us to ground
the teleicopters. Can you believe this?

Speaker 13 (02:48:34):
You know, it's insane, beyond comprehension.

Speaker 12 (02:48:38):
Actually, yeah, they intend to blind these people and potentially
kill these people. So you want to tell me, this
is not a domestic terrorist organization. I know you're not
saying that, but uh, it's it's it's unbelievably disgusting. All right,

(02:48:59):
let's go to Vancouver, BC. Hello, you're on the air.
Go ahead, please.

Speaker 14 (02:49:05):
Yeah, that is government sponsored terrorism in Portland. That's done
by the people like the Central Intelligence Agency. It's done
on purpose.

Speaker 9 (02:49:17):
I'm back to you.

Speaker 12 (02:49:18):
Yeah, well, I don't know that. I have no proof
of that, but I can tell you that the fact
the fact that the other side, the previous administrations have
not looked into this, they've let this go for so long,
means that they're obviously complicit. And and to your point,
we know that the mocking Bird media, you know Operation

(02:49:39):
mocking Bird, Yes, uh, is supporting this operation in a
major way. So yeah, I have to agree with you
that you're probably absolutely one right. The intelligence establishment want
this to happen. They're working against the good of our country.

Speaker 14 (02:49:55):
We have the notment of the secret team that was
introduced by ELF. Let you're proudy years ago. And when
you look at what these what the secret team, of
their many secret teams, they are not really controllable. They
act independently of government.

Speaker 37 (02:50:15):
Oversight.

Speaker 14 (02:50:16):
It didn't start out that way, but that's how it
ended up.

Speaker 12 (02:50:20):
Back to you, Yeah, yeah, I agree with you completely
and have you had a lot of this activity up
there in Canada where you.

Speaker 14 (02:50:29):
Are Fortunately no, And I say that with reserve, because
I can see in the future we're going to have
a problem with our imports, I mean people from North
Africa and the Middle East. This could become a situation

(02:50:50):
where there will just simply be natural confrontations between the
people that settled the place two hundred years ago, excuse me,
and the newcomers. This is where it might flare up
and then something will have to be done. But when
you have police standing down all right, like this bureau

(02:51:15):
reported just now, they're under a directive to do that.
Like the cops were standing down in Dallas, Texas twenty
second November nineteen sixty three. They were told to do
that too. The cops are told to enforce the COVID
laws and stand down for certain peoples. But the Christian

(02:51:36):
churches had to be closed. You see things like that.
Those are directives from very high level.

Speaker 12 (02:51:42):
Back to you, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. Jason Curtis Anderson writes,
if I were investigating the organizations who were setting America
on fire. I'd start here. Foundations, Open Societies, Tides, the
Neville Roy Singham Funds, Community Justice Exchange. Some of these
I think are named off earlier. Unity and Justice Fund,

(02:52:04):
People's Support Foundation, United Community Fund, Arc of Justice, the
Arabella Advisors, the Rockefeller Brothers, the Ford Foundation, MacArthur Foundation,
Neo Philanthropy, and something called Westpac w E s PAC,
the Radical Organizations, the Singham Organizations, the People's Forum, Party

(02:52:25):
for Socialism and Liberation, the Answer Coalition, Code Pink, the
Tri Continental Institute, Breakthrough News, International People's Assembly, the Vincerum,
Vinceeramos Brigade, pal Action, Palestining in Youth movement within our Lifetime,
Stop cop City, SAM and Done, SJP, National Lawyers Guild,

(02:52:52):
you know, on the beat goes. I'll put this list
in the show notes as well, something called Indivisible. There's
plenty of organizations in groups and this needs to be investigated.
And I am so happy, so tickled, optimistic, cautiously so,
but optimistic that certain people at the federal level will
actually get their acting gear and really do something to

(02:53:15):
take this on.

Speaker 14 (02:53:17):
Remember, it caught all these organizations and all these fake activists,
like in January sixth, it all takes money to take
care of their bus affair and their food. Okay, and
that's big bucks and Fletcher proud. He said, Remember, the
Central Intelligence Agency is an agency. That's what it is,

(02:53:38):
an agency, And if you have the money to hire it,
you can have these jobs done.

Speaker 12 (02:53:43):
Yep, exactly right, ran them off.

Speaker 14 (02:53:46):
Yeah, Hello, Vicky, thank you for taking my call. You
guys have a good day.

Speaker 12 (02:53:50):
Yeah you too, God bless you, sir, appreciate it. Stay
safe up there in Canada.

Speaker 14 (02:53:55):
Yea, yeah, I'll try my best.

Speaker 9 (02:53:57):
Thank you too.

Speaker 12 (02:53:57):
Bye bye, all right in the winning mose to the
broadcast listeners, Uh here we see from also Jason Curtis Anderson. Guy,
we're just reading from of One City Rising. He said.
President Trump's latest roundtable on ANTIFIL wasn't just a political statement.
It was long overdue reckoning against a long overdue reckoning

(02:54:18):
against rising far left political violence. For years, journalists and
citizens alike have watched America's streets burn, our cities vandalized,
and are law enforcement vilified under banners of resistance. But
as the President's meeting revealed, ANTAFA is only one mask
worn by a much larger monster, a trans national network

(02:54:40):
of NGO's foreign financiers and ideological operatives, quietly fueling what
Seamus Brunner of the Government Accountability Institute called Riot inc
Riot Incorporated. So now the mask is coming off. Bruner,
theai's director of Research, broke down the mechanics of the

(02:55:03):
sprawling protest industrial complex. He traced the money, the messaging,
and the movements, exposing how left wing extremism, and I
would just say anarchist extremism that the left supports has
evolved from decentralized networks of anarchist collectives into a well
funded infrastructure with global ambitions. Among the various nodes and financiers,

(02:55:28):
he named nevill Roy Singham, a tech billionaire currently under
multiple congressional investigations for allegedly funneling money to American based
protest groups doing the bidding of the Chinese Communist Party.
Unfortunately we got to go. But there is good news, folks,
There is good thing. There are good things happening. So

(02:55:49):
don't give up. Pray for this republic, do what you
can to restore it. America's limping along, but we're not
done yet. And thank you there, heads will prevail, I
believe God bless you. Hey, thank you Vicky. I appreciate
everything you do as well. Join us back here next week,
same time, same outlet, and we'll do it all over again.
God bless you folks. Bye bye, true by

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