Govern America | October 18, 2025 | Embrace Your Smart Chains - Govern America

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new world.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment to cease. The kaleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Us, a new world order, a world where the.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of
its founders.

Speaker 6 (00:27):
Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape is
so that the problem of the put trensidentity will be
the emergence of a new international order the.

Speaker 7 (00:39):
First decade of the twenty first century, that out of
what is will be feared, the greatest restructuring of the
global economy, greatest restructuring of the global economy, greatest restructuring
of the global economy, A new world order was created.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
Documenting the crisis of our rebel.

Speaker 9 (00:58):
The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and
open society, and we are as a people inherently and
historically opposed to secret societies, the secret oaths and a secret.

Speaker 10 (01:12):
Proceedings pleasing war on the new world order.

Speaker 11 (01:15):
The councils of government we must guard again the acquisition
of unwarranted influence, whether it sought or unsought, by the
military industrial conflict.

Speaker 8 (01:27):
This is Governor America with Darren Wheats and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 12 (01:46):
From Fewer Regions five and ten. This is governed America. Boy,
my microphone is really really loud. I need to pop
that down just a bit. Welcome to govern America, ladies
and gentlemen. It is the eighteenth of October twenty twenty five.
Nice to have you with us once again as we
document the crisis of our republic. Got a cram pack
program for you today and we'll get to all of

(02:07):
that as time progresses. Good morning, VICKI, Good morning. Yeah,
how's your week?

Speaker 13 (02:13):
Ben?

Speaker 14 (02:15):
It's been really good actually, because I'm for the first
time since I can remember, I'm actually prepared for the
fall and for the winter.

Speaker 12 (02:26):
I'm never prepared for the winter. I don't want to
prepare for the winter. I refuse to prepare for the winter. Yeah.
I guess preparedness is something that we should do, but man,
I don't want to see it come.

Speaker 14 (02:39):
I always have just tons of leaves, and so this
time I'm ready.

Speaker 12 (02:46):
Yeah. Well, the best way to avoid that is to
not plant trees around your house, which is kind of
what I do.

Speaker 14 (02:54):
Yeah, I'm cutting them down as quickly as I can.

Speaker 12 (02:57):
There you go, Yeah, trees. You know, the envirol Nazis
won't like it, but hey, it doesn't matter what they think.

Speaker 14 (03:06):
Yeah, I don't know why, but the lady that originally
bought this house, she planted trees everywhere. And you know,
so I've probably already cut down about four of them
and I still have a couple to go. You know

(03:27):
that are pretty big, too big for this city lot.

Speaker 12 (03:31):
Yeah, well, I wish you all the best in that,
because that is something that probably needs to be done. Certainly,
it's when they lit her all over the yard that's
that's no fun. I don't know. You know, kids like
playing them, so if he had any grandkids, maybe maybe
they'll enjoy it. But I remember doing that with my mother,

(03:52):
you know, when she was out, we'dn't be doing work
in the yard and raking leaves and everything, and lots
lots of time consumed doing that. Uh you know, And
nothing wrong with yard work is as long as you
have the time to do it. Unfortunately, increasingly we're in
our fast paced lifestyle, it's hard to find time to
stay on top of everything. But well, I.

Speaker 14 (04:15):
Used to actually like breaking the leaves in the fall,
but I'm a little bit too old now, you know.
It's kind of hard on me.

Speaker 12 (04:26):
Yeah, I understand that, you know, and and and certainly
I like doing yard work and I love doing gardening.
You know, well until the critters start eating my plants.
That's that's when it kind of becomes you know, I
wouldn't mind sharing with them if they would hoe. But
I noticed they don't like to take part in the
in the actual chores of it, but they do like

(04:48):
to take the fruits away from me. So you know
something funny how that works. Yeah, but anyhow, uh yeah,
I mentioned at the top of the show that we
got a crampack program ahead. We're gonna be talking to
about the Middle East in the bottom of this hour
with Ali Sefavi. He is with the National Council of

(05:09):
Resistance of Iran and they're talking about dissidents over there
being tortured and hung on gallows. So it's they have
a plan in place that they want to implement. So
I don't I'm not sure where this is all going
to go, but we're gonna listen to him and see
what he has to say about that. He's promising to

(05:30):
be an interesting interview. And then next hour we'll be
visiting with doctor David Mantick. Doctor David Mantick is one
of the foremost medical experts on the JFK assassination. He
sees parallels between the the JFK assassination and that of
Charlie Kirk. And so we're gonna be talking a little
bit about that in the next hour, and then finally

(05:50):
in the final hour, we have Wayne White joining us.
Wayne White is an historian. He's the author of two books,
The Decline of America, The Rise of Communism, and also
One World Government Threat or Solution, and he will be
joining us in the final hour of the show today
to talk about, among other things, the government shut down,

(06:12):
and you know, certainly talk about parallels. There's certainly parallels
with the government shut down and the rise of communism
in America because it is many in many cases it's
the socialist policies that are under contention. It dawns on
me that it's really an ideological divide going on right now,

(06:34):
where you know, it's not just a fiscal divide, it's
an ideological divide where is the money going to be spent,
you know, is it going to be spent on socialist programs?
And this is the point of the problem of all
of this. We don't have the money, you know. We
just passed I think it was back in August, the
thirty seven trillion dollar mark of the national debt, and

(06:58):
it's already almost up to thirty eight trillion. If I see,
I got the public debt to the penny up here.
Let's just take a look. Yeah, thirty seven point nine
trillion dollars right now as of the sixteenth, two days ago.
That was the most recent update that the Treasury Department
posted on the Treasury dot gov website.

Speaker 14 (07:20):
So yeah, when they globalized the economy, they globalized our country.
It really all goes back to the establishment of the
World Trade Organization, and they included trade in services. Well,
a service is a person who or a job. So

(07:42):
they basically opened up our borders, you know, for the
importation of foreigners to come work in our country, to
take jobs away from American citizens on American soil.

Speaker 12 (07:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 (07:59):
The insult to working people that I can remember is
that a company of a manpower type company imported tie
workers to come and pick apples in Washington State. Well,

(08:21):
those jobs had always been taken by the seasonal migrant
workers from Mexico. So they left the seasonal migrant workers
from Mexico high and dry, no jobs.

Speaker 12 (08:37):
Yeah, And what's interesting is I just saw something today
about the USMCA that seems to indicate that Trump is
open to doing a deal with Mexico that's outside of
the USMCA. So one of our biggest criticisms of Trump
has been the USMCA. So it makes me wonder if

(08:57):
some of this at least isn't getting through and he's
starting to backpedal some on it. I don't know. As
I've said before, I have trust issues, So I guess
we'll just have to wait and see. But one thing
I don't like is the administration now. Trump is now
openly admitted that the CIA is conducting operations inside Venezuela.

(09:20):
I'm not too thrilled about this situation of nation building
or regime change by the US military or the intelligence establishment,
but that's certainly what's going on.

Speaker 15 (09:34):
Trump has confirmed that he's authorized the CIA to conduct
covert operations in Venezuela.

Speaker 10 (09:40):
He made the comment while being.

Speaker 15 (09:41):
Questioned by reporters during an unrelated press conference. While Trump
did not give any specific details, the acknowledgment is unprecedented,
as the CIA usually operates in secrecy. The President said
there were two reasons behind his decision. Venezuela has quote
emptied their prisons into the US, and a lot of
drugs are coming into the US from there. And while

(10:03):
his administration has been focused on blowing up suspected drug
boats in the Caribbean, the President is not ruling out
strikes out of Venezuelan land.

Speaker 16 (10:13):
I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are
certainly looking at land now because we've.

Speaker 12 (10:16):
Got to see very well under control. We've had a
couple of days where there isn't a boat to be found.

Speaker 15 (10:23):
Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro on Wednesday said the operations are
part of a US policy of aggression, threats and harassment.
He called on Trump to stop the CIA from carrying
out a coup.

Speaker 12 (10:36):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 14 (10:38):
Well, if you take a look at what the open
borders has done, it's devastated the domestic workforce in just
about all the countries. Globalization is the worst thing to

(10:59):
happen to people, that has ever happened.

Speaker 12 (11:03):
Yeah, I hope we don't end up creating a refugee
crisis from Venezuela so that the next administration, the next
Democrat administration, feels compelled to accept all the communist refugees
from Venezuela.

Speaker 14 (11:17):
Yeah, exactly, that's that's exactly.

Speaker 12 (11:20):
Right, because that seems to be the pattern, doesn't it.

Speaker 14 (11:24):
Yeah, boomerang. It's a boomerang policy, and they've been doing
that to us since the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 12 (11:33):
Yes. Sky News reports Venezuela's president, Nicholas Maduro, has accused
the US of a coup attempt after Donald Trump approved
CIA operations in the country to tackle alleged drug trafficking.
Trump confirmed his decision as you just heard, and that
was first revealed by The New York Times, as he
said large amounts of drugs were entering the US from Venezuela,

(11:54):
much but much of trafficked by sea. When asked why
the Coastguard wasn't asked to intercept suspected drug trafficking boats,
which has been a long standing US practice, Trump said
that the approach has been ineffective. Well, that's kind of
an insult. To the Coastguard. Yeah, I think that the
Coast Guard is probably very effective, but I don't know.

(12:21):
Maybe it's not well enough funded, Maybe it's not well
well enough resourced. Anyway, He declined to answer whether the
CIA has the authority to execute mister Maduro, who denies
accusations from Washington that he has connection to drug trafficking
and organized crime. The US has offered fifty million dollars
in reward for information leading to his arrest. How long

(12:44):
will the CIA continue to carry on with its coup,
he asked after mister Trump's comments on Wednesday evening, saying
calls for regime change harkened back to failed eternal wars
in Afghanistan and Iraq. I just think it's interesting that
Trump now has taken this approach where he is openly

(13:04):
now saying that the CIA is operating within Venezuela. If
in fact that's true, it seems like it would put
any operatives of the CIA at risk, unless, of course,
well they would actually be Probably they would use actual

(13:26):
Venezuelans to do that. That would make the most sense.
Rather than planting people, they compromise people that are there
already within Maduro's inner circle. But still that's going to
unless you're just playing mind games with him announcing it
publicly so that Madua becomes more and more paranoid. I

(13:50):
don't know.

Speaker 14 (13:51):
I don't know, but I mean it. With globalization, what
they did was to allow the leaders of countries to
become corrupt, you know, by you know what businesses can
be in your country, who they can they can import people,

(14:16):
The businesses can import people who would normally be opposing
the government. It gives government leaders a ticket to corruption,
is what it did. And there are governments all over
the world that are corrupt. They sell out to the

(14:39):
major corporations, and that includes ours. Our government is corrupt
as any of them out there.

Speaker 12 (14:48):
Yeah. Yeah, they were talking about the earlier in that
report about the Venezuela boats that have been bombed recently
by the Trump administration by the military, and you know,
this is just a good example as to why we
need transparency. And unfortunately the Trump administration does not want
any media inside the Pentagon. Have you seen the reports

(15:13):
about how they're basically wanting all these media organizations to
sign agreements basically saying that they won't report anything other
than what the Pentagon wants. Them to you know, yeah,
here's a little back. Here's a little back, here's a
little background.

Speaker 15 (15:30):
Report today a showdown over press access at the Pentagon
by five pm news outlets.

Speaker 12 (15:36):
Okay, this report here that you're hearing right now was
put out October fourteenth.

Speaker 15 (15:41):
Just for your information, let's sign a new restrictive media
policy or hand over their press badges within twenty four hours.

Speaker 10 (15:47):
Policy requires reporters.

Speaker 15 (15:49):
To acknowledge they won't seek or solicit any information the
Defense Department has not pre approved, and Warren's military personnel
could face consequences for unauthorized disclosures. News organizations call that
a gag order, saying it violates First Amendment rights and
muzzles reporting on how a nearly trillion dollar department spends

(16:10):
taxpayer money.

Speaker 12 (16:11):
Well, I don't agree with that, because if you work
for the Pentagon and you're not authorized to talk to
the press, you're an employee of the Pentagon. You should
be leaking information to the press. So that aspect of
it I agree with them on. But this blanket gag
order for the media is a different story.

Speaker 15 (16:30):
Right Murray, the Washington Post executive editor, said the proposed
restrictions undercut first Amendment protections by placing unnecessary constraints on
gathering and publishing information. A who's who of news organizations,
The Washington Post, The New York Times, CNN, The Wall
Street Journal, NPR, Reuters, The Atlantic, the Guardian all say
they won't sign, so do write leaning outlets Newsmax and

(16:53):
The Washington Times. Fox News, the former employer of Defense
Secretary Pete Hexath, has not yet indicated whether they will
sign the pledge.

Speaker 12 (17:01):
Okay, that again was put out on the fourteenth. Since
that report was issued, Fox News has joined the other
media media outlets in refusing to sign the agreement.

Speaker 15 (17:12):
A Pentagon spokes because reporters are quote moving the goalpost,
insisting the policy just requires an acknowledgment, not an agreement,
and reminding journalists that access to the building is a privilege,
not a right.

Speaker 12 (17:24):
So there you go. The only organization media organization that
did sign the outlet was actually one American news who yeah,
who was so far up Trump's hind end that they
have to pump oxygen to them. So oh an now
is officially a propaganda arm of the Pentagon. Basically, huh, sad,

(17:48):
very sad, because it would have been great to have
them all united against the policy. I'm totally against this.
I think this is not completely against the first miment
and it's very, very unfortunate, and frankly, it makes the
Trump administration look bad, looked terrible. They don't seem to

(18:10):
care a whole lot about optics. I guess anymore, since
he's a lame du president.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Just delete what side.

Speaker 12 (18:16):
I was wondering where that was coming from. Ye, so, yeah,
I guess. Uh was that your stomach there? Uh yeah,
maybe you should eat some breakfast before the show, VICKI yeah, uh. Anyway, Uh,
here we see from the Natural News former Israeli army

(18:38):
chief admits genocide two hundred thousand plus Palestinians killed or
wounded in Gaza. Now we knew that this. I knew
that this was over in six figures right now. The
official number of Palestinians dead in this whole operation in
the Middle East was I call it an operation. It's

(18:58):
really an ethnic cleansing. I think certainly a genocide. Was
The official number is seventy thousand. Now keep in mind
the October attack in twenty a few years ago. Anyway,
twenty twenty three, the October seventh attack that they keep

(19:20):
referring to that kickstarted this whole thing, which I believe
was a false fat flag operation, because there's no way
the Masade could possibly have not seen that thing coming.

Speaker 14 (19:33):
Right, I agree with you, but.

Speaker 12 (19:36):
This whole thing. They the official number of Israelis that
were killed was something like eleven hundred. I think, if
I'm doing it off the top of my head, that's
what my memory is telling me. So eleven hundred. Let's
just say it was eleven hundred, give or take. And

(19:57):
the official number is seven twenty thousand of the Palestinians
that Israel has killed since. So even if you go
with the official numbers, it's way disproportionate. But now we
see this Israeli army chief admitting two hundred thousand Palestinians

(20:19):
have been killed. Gods, a death toll exceeds sixty four
thousand and one hundred sixty four thousand wounded. So when
a nation's top military commander openly admits to slaughtering and
this is a this is an article by Casey in
Natural News, slaughtering more than two hundred thousand people, more

(20:41):
than ten percent of an entire population, while boasting that
no legal constraints ever slowed them down. The world must
recognize this for what it is, genocide. That is exactly
what former Israeli Army chief Herzy hall Levy can confessed
this week, confirming what human rights group legal scholars in
the Palestinian health ministry have long documented. Helev who led

(21:07):
Israel's assault on Gaza for seventeen months before resigning in March,
spoke to residence in Southern Israel. He said, this isn't
a gentle war. We took the gloves off from the
first minute, sadly not earlier. His words were not a slip.
They were a proud declaration of a campaign so brutal
that even Israel's own military lawyers never once restricted his actions.

(21:29):
I really think that all of the American people need
to be aware of what's going on here and be
aware of because we all have a hand in this.
If we're not against it, if we don't come out
against it. And the reason why I say that is
because this is being done in your name. We send

(21:50):
Israel gobs and bunches of money. Despite all the Doge
government efforts supposedly to save money, and despite all of
the talk in the hot air from the present administration
about saving the tax payers money. There's still no effort,

(22:11):
no desire, nothing that I see anyway of curtailing the
amount of money that we're giving to Israel, the amount
of aid that we're giving to Israel. You know, we've
had certain people that were prosecuted for Foreign Agent Registration
Act violations PARAH, and yet we have operatives from Israel

(22:32):
and other countries as well, to be fair, but operating
and lobbying Congress and they don't have to register sure
under PHARAH. So why the special treatment and why are
we being forced to pay for what amounts to a genocide?

Speaker 14 (22:51):
Well, you know what I wrote about this system that
they had set up, and it really seems to me
that what happens at the global level is they actually
create refugees to be able to import them into the

(23:14):
United States. And what they're doing, of course, is they're
bastardizing our population and in the process bringing our country down,
effectively making a world war within our borders. Yeah, and
so what happened when BB you know, bombed the Palestinians,

(23:38):
created a lot of Palestinian refugees And where did they
come in the United States? And I have the article.
I'll put it in the show notes where people can
see what I wrote about that. But it's systemic. I mean,
if you look at first during the carterstration, that was

(24:01):
like the boat people coming from Cuba, was it? And
then of course Vietnam. What were we doing in Vietnam?
Wasn't our war, but there we were, And then we
had all the Vietnamese refugees brought in and Hamong I

(24:25):
think Hamong people were brought into Minnesota. It's it's like
a system that has been established. Now maybe it's to
bring it the excess populations, or maybe the idea was
to be able to create the population here for global governance.

(24:48):
I don't know. You can attach whatever reason you want to,
but my observation has been the system by which refugees
are created and imported into the the United States.

Speaker 12 (25:01):
Yeah, that could very well be and I don't doubt
that one bit. Tell you what, Let's go to the
cherry in Kansas right now. We're almost up to the
break and we got to bring our guest up here
at a moment. But cherry, go ahead, yes quickly.

Speaker 17 (25:15):
I'm reading Fletcher's Proudies book and he was in the
Pentagon he's a briefing officer who's liaison with the CIA,
and he was lifelong acquaintance with General Creighton Abrams, who
in sixty eight became commander of the forces there in Vietnam.

(25:38):
And there was never an objective in Vietnam, a military objective.
That's what he stresses in this book. I mean, VICKI
will remember they told us, well, we got to fight
there because of the Chito Treaty, and it'll be like
a Domino theory crap.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
They rightly objective.

Speaker 17 (26:03):
Yeah, and fifty eight thousand people of our generation die,
and they cycled five hundred fifty thousand troops through there,
and you know, and a bunch of money.

Speaker 12 (26:22):
Right.

Speaker 17 (26:22):
Well, so I don't trust the military. I don't like
this policy at all. That Heck said is pushing.

Speaker 12 (26:28):
I totally agree with you. Yeah, And as far as
the mission in Vietnam, it seems to me, like more
and more as I read about it, is the mission
was to demoralize our troops. Because that's certainly seems to
be what it accomplished. Hey, thank you, Sherry, appreciate the call.
God bless you. But yeah, and so we got to
take the bottom of our break and when we come back,

(26:49):
we'll be visiting. If everything goes as planned with Ali
Safavi and Uh, we'll be talking about Iran. Don't go away.

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Speaker 12 (31:22):
Okay, we turned to the Middle East. Right now. Ali
Safavi is joining us on the line right now. He
is a member of the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
They are a coalition of Iranian descendant groups who refer
to themselves as Iran's parliament and exile. He's a socialist,
I'm sorry, a sociologist by training, and he has studied

(31:45):
and taught at UCLA, California State University, Los Angeles and
the University of Michigan. He has been an active participant
in the anti Shah student movement in the nineteen seventies
in the United States and has been deeply engaged in
Iranian affairs ever since. Safavi has lectured and written exclusively
or extensively on Iran, Iraq terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and Middle

(32:10):
Eastern politics. And he's joining us again today on Governed America. Hey, Ali,
welcome on in.

Speaker 23 (32:18):
Well.

Speaker 24 (32:19):
Hello, thank you very much, and I'm grateful for that
very kind introduction and the great to be on your show.

Speaker 12 (32:25):
Yeah, good to have you. And Vicky Davis is also here.
Say hi, Vicky, Hi, Hi, Ali, Hello Vicky, Hi, How
are you fine?

Speaker 14 (32:35):
Thanks? Anxious to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 12 (32:38):
So, what I've heard from your organization and your folks
that are promoting you is is that there's a number
of executions that are going on, persecution, execution of innocent Iranians,
and this is something that you're really concerned about exposing.
Can you give us a background as to why the

(33:00):
Uranian regime is imprisoning these people? Number one, because my
understanding is that they haven't committed any crime, but yet
they are in prison and many of them are going
being sent to the gallows. Is that correct?

Speaker 24 (33:17):
Exactly?

Speaker 23 (33:18):
Yes.

Speaker 24 (33:19):
In fact, just to give you some let's say, details
of what you're talking about, first and middle, explain why
this is the case. There are currently fifteen hundred prisoners
on death row in just one single prison in Ivan,

(33:39):
which is in west of the capital Tehran. These are
people who have been imprisoned for ordinary offenses. But of course,
given that the winning judiciary is not on par with
international standards, there's lack of due process, there's no lawyers, president,
most of the confessions are extracted by torture, and so,

(34:03):
in a sense, for the regime, executions are a political
instrument to put down descent and to terrorize the population.
And so every execution, even that of let's say ordinary criminals,
is a political.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Execution.

Speaker 24 (34:23):
Beyond that, some seventeen dissidents have been sentenced to death
for the affiliation with the main Iranian Democratic opposition known
in the Unitedan States as the NK, which is part
of the NCRI, and they range in age from twenty.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Two to sixty six.

Speaker 24 (34:45):
Two more were hanged despite an international outcry back on
July twenty seven, one of them sixty nine years old,
the other one forty eight, and so we are trying
to generate, if you will, some campaign basically about executions

(35:05):
in Iran. The President elect of the NCR miss A
Graduate issued a statement calling for immediate action by the
New End New and Security Council, the European Union, the
United States, and international human rights organizations to end this
horrific nightmare in Iran under the Demolis And in fact,

(35:27):
since October thirteen, for the past five days, those fifteen
hundred death row prisoners have gone on a hungred strike
in prison, and despite threats.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
By the regime, they've said, you.

Speaker 24 (35:40):
Know, we're going to be killed anyway. So we're going
to protest this unjust and unlawful sentences and something must
be done regarding about plate. And they have also sent
a letter out to various international organizations basically seeking that
they do something to prevent division from this Barberica execution. Now,

(36:03):
as to why there's been this dramatic and staggering rise
in the number of executions in nelon in fact the
SoCal new Moderate president posession, in the past fourteen months,
two thousand and eight people have been hanged, just thirty
eight in a matter of two days October fifteen and sixteen,

(36:25):
so that's nineteen a day.

Speaker 25 (36:27):
So you can imagine it's.

Speaker 24 (36:28):
Like a killing machine, the threating human beings like cattle.
And why is this because obviously, as you know, the
models have suffered tremendous defeat in them at least the
fall of Bachoral Asset, the destruction of the Hezbollah, the
Hootief and of course now the piece hopefully the peas

(36:51):
in the region, of course, that have denied the vision.
One of the major pillars of the survival, namely its
intervention in vidual country is which for a long time
it's called is its strategic deaths. Secondly, of course it's
nuclear program has been devastated, but what happened during the
Twelve Day War, and of course the revelations that the

(37:13):
NCI has made some one hundred and thirty three and
so the last remaining believer, if you will, left for
the regime to prolong this rule is to suppress and
oppress the people of Iran, who actually are very very
enraged about all of this. And as we speak, there

(37:36):
are daily protests in the country by various sectors of society,
basically demanding the rights and calling for aging change.

Speaker 12 (37:45):
Now you said that, go ahead, VICKI.

Speaker 14 (37:48):
I was gonna say, do you have any international organizations
that are supporting you?

Speaker 24 (37:56):
Well, there are many.

Speaker 25 (37:57):
There are many.

Speaker 24 (37:58):
In fact, you know, there was a statement signed by
more than five hundred different dignitaries across the world, in Europe,
in the US for to give you some names like
former Speaker of the House in Gingridge, former Attorney General
Marchael Mukasey, Professor Allen der Schwitz, Rabbi Abraham Cooper of

(38:25):
the simul Wistal Center, and a whole host of other
American distinguished American General James John, General James Conway, the
former Commandant of the Marines, but also in Europe as well,
some one hundred and five Nobel laureates and the private
former five Ministers, presidents, you name it. They have spoken

(38:46):
out about this issue. There was a huge conference in
London actually last Saturday, in which in addition to several
hundred Iranian expats, there were many distinguished speakers, including four
Speaker of the House of Commons John Burko, who spoke
about this issue and of course call them the Miracial

(39:07):
community to do something because as you know, evil things
happen when good people remain silent, and in many ways,
the human rights organization, particularly in United Nations, have been
very timid in their approach to this issue. But we
feel that now that the nuclear issue, generally speaking, is

(39:30):
a result, now that they any regime terrorism in the
region has been contained, the issue of human rights must
be front and center because at the end of the day,
to end the nightmare that is happening in Iran and
by extension, bring peace at stability to the region, the

(39:50):
regime of the models must go. And of course we're
not asking for foreign boots underground, we're not asking for
financial assistance. We think that if the international community, the
Acts States Europe speak out in support of the people
of Iran and their effort to change this regime, that

(40:10):
they're going to be successful, because they have demonstrated, especially
since twenty or nine to several major uprisings, including the
one in twenty twenty two, that they already re league
and capable of bringing about change. And of course complementing
these protests is the existence of an organized nationwide resistance

(40:33):
within the country itself.

Speaker 12 (40:35):
So you're pushing for a regime change in Iran just
to be clear, is that correct?

Speaker 24 (40:43):
Exactly? In fact, we have been since nineteen eighty one,
when the regime that succeeded the corrupts and the repressive
shows regime basically eliminated all vistitues of peaceful for the
collectivity in Iran and established a reign of terror. But

(41:04):
of course, the kind of regime change that we envision
is not like what you saw in Iraq or what
you saw in Libya, which turned out to be a disaster,
because these were faring if you will induce the regime changes.
What we are calling for is changed by the people
that be wrong indigenously and obviously they really people have

(41:28):
a right to self determination, right to peace, liberty, pursuit
of happiness, just like people in the United States or
we are in other parts of the country. So they
deserve freedom. They have been fighting against the four tyrannies
in the past one hundred and twenty years, against the
rest Shah, then against his son Mohammadreza, they overthrew him.

(41:54):
Then how Maadey came and of course he died, and
of course how many as had the rainfall nearly forty years,
thirty six seven years, And so they want freedom. They
want democracy. They want they want the democratic form of government,
a republic like you know you have been in many
European countries and the US. We think that it is

(42:15):
in the interest of the international community that Iran becomes
democratic and free because it will have a tremendous impact
on the Middle East. All these wars, all these extremism
that is fermented by the Molos of Islam will end,
and finally we will see the Midleast that is at

(42:35):
peace with the rest of its neighbors. And you know,
Iran will play very, very constructive role because I'm sure
you know that the people of Iran are probably one
of the most educated, most enlightened people in the Middle East.
Many of them are highly educated. It has a very
young generated generation, like seventy percent of Iranians are below

(42:58):
the age of thirty five. And so you know, you
have a very vibrant country that is being repressed day
in and day out by a very brutal, medi evil
regime that will also take you around back fourteen hundred
years ago. And of course Iranians, especially the younger duration
want no parts of that busoe it.

Speaker 12 (43:17):
Yeah, I'm wondering if you have you heard anything about
the Greater Israel Plan. Are you familiar with that?

Speaker 24 (43:25):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 12 (43:26):
Actually, yeah, Ohdad, you non revealed that. I think it
was back in the nineteen eighties. He was an associate
of Ario Sharon and basically what they were proposing. In fact,
Benjamin Att and Yahoo just recently came out and endorsed
that plan. He said, he's all for the Greater Israel plan,
but they're wanting to be able to expand their borders

(43:47):
to the point where they essentially swallow the entire Middle East,
and certainly the Western leaders here in the United States,
who in my opinion are way too entangled with Israel,
are supporting that plan. Are you Are you concerned at
all that this push to overthrow the government of Iran
could end up playing into Israel's a plan to expand

(44:11):
its borders and ultimately even swallow Iran.

Speaker 24 (44:16):
Well, I think, quite frankly that any kind of change
in Iran must come from within. That is why we
have said from day one that we do not agree
or propose any kind of foreign intervention in Iran, because
at the end of the day, it will not succeed.

(44:40):
You know, when the Twelfth Day War started, maybe pro fought,
maybe the regime will farm, but it didn't. And of
course you've had the experience of attempts at nation building,
like in Iraq or in Libyan. Where are we now?
You know, Iraq became a satellite of the regime into Iran.
Right now as we speak, the pro Iran Shate militias

(45:07):
effectively are controlling the government there. And you will see
what is happening in Libya, which is in chaos. And
of course, for many many years in Syria has Assa
ruled with an iron fist and brutalize the people of Syria.
And so that is why we have from day one
said that the future of the Iranian people must be

(45:29):
determined by the people of Iran. But of course the
general community can play a part. Instead of engaging the models,
instead of providing them with hundreds of millions of dollars,
like the Obama administration that during JCPOA, or the Biden
administration that when they were trying to revive the JCPOA,

(45:50):
the Iran Nuclear Deal, that the international community should deny
any kind of lifeline to the models because they use
that money not to move the lives of Iranians, but
to suppress them to both of the security operations there,
repressive forces, and of course spend it on you know,
groups like the Hesbal law orse as that was in power,

(46:15):
spend that the you know, like they spent fifty billion
dollars in Syria as it was total And so basically
changing is rand must be homegrown, and it can be done,
and I think we're closer than ever.

Speaker 12 (46:29):
But but how could it be done? How could it
be done without intelligence establishments like the CIA intervening, Because
I know we've seen a number of different color revolutions
in various countries that was clearly backed by the State Department,
clearly back by the US intelligence establishment. And so my
concern is is that we're you know, if the because

(46:52):
what often happens, and I think you've probably watched it
as well, the CIA goes in there and they create
a mess, it comes a disaster, and then ultimately we
end up having to live with that disaster and more
radical extremist groups come in and take over. And so
that's that's the concern that I have, is that you know,

(47:14):
things could end up being more and more radical in
the Middle East. What do you think of that?

Speaker 24 (47:19):
Yes, yes, I think first of all, let me say
that your argument is sound, and which is why, as
I said in the beginning, that we do not ascribe
at all to any foreign intervention. But when it comes
to the capabilities of the opposition, you know, the NCRI

(47:42):
has been around for forty seven years, and thenk which
is the main part of that has been around for
sixty years, has spot against two decatur ships. We have
a huge network of activists in place across Iran. They
carried out some three thousand targeted operations against the IRGC

(48:04):
and other repressive agencies across Iran, and the regime is
terrified of them. And of course we have a very
very well thought of specific plan for transition, a ten
point plan because for the free elections, post the theocracy,
gender equality, abolition of the penalty, Scharier law, and non

(48:26):
nuclear Iran, peaceful coexistence with the rest of our neighbors.
And so I think quite frankly that if you will,
the major deficiency of Western policy toward Iran has been
a blind spot toward their Ranian people and their opposition.
And to be honest with you, we have been the

(48:48):
victims of this policy because Western governments have chosen to
appease the models of Iran instead of realizing that it
is the people of Iran that need to be invested on.
But I think now in twenty twenty five, I think

(49:08):
the whole situation is different. The regime is at its
weakest point, and of course we are on the offensive.
And to be honest, we do not believe that change
would come simply through civil disobedience. That is necessary, but
when you have a totalitarian regime like the Molows of Iran,

(49:30):
they're not going to allow duals and civil groups to
have huge raalies like you have seen this in Europe
and elsewhere. That is why you need an organized uprising
and that would complement the protest of all many citizens
and bring the regime down. Remember that nobody believed that

(49:54):
the Asset regime would fall, but it took only eleven days,
and nobody he would have thought that the Shah regime
would go. Recalled that in December of nineteen seventy six,
when President Carter went to Tehran and toasted the Shah
at the state dinner, he described the Shah regime as
an island of stability under in his words, his Majesty's rule,

(50:19):
meaning the Shah. Well, a year and a half later,
the show's regime was in the dust spin of history.
And so in this sense, I understand that some people
may be risk averse or averse to any kind of
region change, but ultimately, until unless the models of Iran
are removed from power by the people of Iran, the

(50:42):
source of chaos and tension will remain. You know what.

Speaker 12 (50:46):
Yeah, Well, these these political prisoners that you spoke of,
these seventeen dissidents sentenced to death, you said their ages
were twenty two to sixty six. What were they accused of?
Because I think I read in your materials somewhere that
they were accused of being massad agents. That is that correct?

Speaker 24 (51:09):
Well, that's one of the that's one of the many
allegations directed at them. But as you know, the region
basically accused as anybody who's opposed to it a green
agents of foreign nations and not just Israel, and they
labeled them as the mahara between the people who wage

(51:31):
war on God. Of course that particular accusation or charge
carries automatic death sentence. But of course that these were
activists who for THATMP World group feeding on waves, they
were involved in resistance operations targeting IRGC bases like, for example,

(51:55):
the Aera space headquarters of the iologist Ilergies. He was
targeted by them. They use some projectiles in attacking it,
and so they are very very active inside Iran. There,
for example, herald huge posters of the leadership of the resistance.
They project their pictures on the walls of the skyscrapers

(52:20):
in Iran. I rises to let the people be around
know that there is a very very capable resistance active
within the country, and it has identifiable leader, it has
a specific plan, and so we are quite confident about chances.
All that is needed is for the international community to

(52:44):
also come around and say, yes, let's do what needs
to be done politically and morally to encourage and involved
in the people of Iran. You know, it's just like
wearing the red zone, just a little bit of push.

Speaker 12 (52:59):
You you were talking earlier about the targeted operations that
you were wanting to promote inside of Iran by the people,
people would be engaging in targeted operations against the regime.
Can you expand on what kind of targeted operations you're
talking about?

Speaker 24 (53:15):
Well, you know, yeah, for example, you know, what who
are the people would suppress their any people.

Speaker 23 (53:22):
These are members of the IRGC, the Ministry of Intelligence
and Security, and the whole host of other repressive agencies
across the nation, people who drag the victims to president
and hang them.

Speaker 24 (53:40):
And of course, if you can break the spell of
repression with Iran, you know, the regime in Iran is
ruining through absolute repression of fear. And to a degree
that you can break that wall, you can encourage the
people to come out down to the streets of Iran.

(54:02):
Remember that whenever there has been a spark, whenever there
has been a slight, if you will, atmosphere, people have
come to the streets in the hundreds of thousands. And
so what the resistance units start doing, they're working like
a sledgehammer to break the wall of repression, to create

(54:24):
an environment where the people are no longer fearful of
the irgcagons and the plain clothes agents and the minisia
of intelligence who obviously shoot people in the open, in
the streets and elsewhere, and so that they can come
out to the streets and in a sense have an

(54:46):
organized uprising that would topple the regime like you've seen
in other countries where the centers of power are captured
by the people, and of course those regimes were brought down.
That's the kind of thing that we are working at.
But of course what needs to be done on the
part of the Giraftical community saying that yes they Renian

(55:07):
people have the right to determine their own future, and
we all hurriedly support that. We have to go beyond
the regimes. These mollets will not agree to the demands
of the s Ratic community because if they do, then
the regime will collapse. If they saw any benefit in

(55:32):
accepting what is demanded of them by the Gractric community,
they would have done it. Remember, they still are refusing
to abandon the nuclearness program. They're still refusing to help
the proxies across the region, you know, the feverishly working
to prevent the Hessballer from becoming the song from the

(55:55):
sheer militias, the rock from becoming the soft. They are
plotting to undermine the new government in Syria, and of
course they'll continue to provide weapons and money to do
who's in Yemen and of course even in Venezuela.

Speaker 12 (56:12):
In some or We're just about out of time, Ali,
but I appreciate you joining us with and it'll be
interesting to watch the situation developed as everything unfolds. But
thank you for being with us.

Speaker 14 (56:24):
Yeah, and I hope you'll come back this really it
has been a very interesting interview.

Speaker 12 (56:30):
Yeah, thank you. We've got to take the break. We'll
be back in a moment. Thanks. Alli. Talk to you.

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The World Health Organization says infectious diseases in Gaza are
spiraling out of control as aid groups continue to send
food and medicine into the war torn territory. The WHO
reports that only thirteen of the thirty six hospitals in
the area are operational, with most not fully functional. The
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in Gaza would be a mammoth effort, whether meningitis, diarrhea,
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Since Israel and Hamas signed a ceasefire agreement on Monday,
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Most of the buildings would need to be demolished as
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war has dismantled Gaza's healthcare system. The UN estimates that
restoring Gaza would cost at least seventy billion dollars. Officials
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agreements with international partners and organizations to help rebuild the area,
including groups with experienced building in the Middle East. HAMAS
has handed over all twenty living hostages and said it
has returned all the remains of deceased hostages it could find.

Speaker 12 (01:01:49):
From female regions five to ten. This is the second
hour of Governor America Vicki Davis this year. I've during
weeks it continues to be the eighteenth of October twenty
twenty five. Yeah, seventy eight percent destroyed billions and billions
to to fix, to repair, to rebuild, to bulldoze the wreckage, uh,
and start all over again. But certainly I believe that

(01:02:12):
the plan is to turn that whole area into a
big tourist attraction. That's what it sounds like to me.

Speaker 14 (01:02:20):
Well, if you look at what the problem is with
the employment of people across the world, technology is replacing people.
People are becoming just access baggage in you know, within
the corporate world. Now you notice that he said in

(01:02:42):
that news piece, he mentioned specifically the hospitals. Yeah, and
why would why would that be? It's because of the
global health system, the technocratic tyranny, and it's the hospitspittles
are major nodes in the global health system.

Speaker 12 (01:03:05):
Yeah. Well there's probably an also a lot of people
in Gaza too that need them right now too, you know,
being injured.

Speaker 14 (01:03:13):
They do, I mean, they destroy the infrastructure and then
they rebuild it with fully loaded technology for surveillance and control. Yep,
it's the ultimate system of terrorism and destruction is helpful

(01:03:34):
to the technology corporations that are doing the build out
of the systems. I mean, all you got to do
is look at the AI system that they plan to implement. Well,
that'll be worldwide yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:03:51):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Let's go to Art and Georgia.
Right now he's on the line. Let's see what he's
got to say. Hello, Art, you're on the air.

Speaker 25 (01:04:00):
I was quick.

Speaker 13 (01:04:00):
I just now called, so that was like really super fast.

Speaker 12 (01:04:03):
Hey I'm speedy, push button dude.

Speaker 13 (01:04:11):
I here you. It's been one of those days for me.
It's just been since the moment I climbed out a bit,
it has been NonStop, go go go. It's like I
wish every day could be like this.

Speaker 12 (01:04:21):
This is what happens when you're on your second cup
of coffee, I said, I just put it that way,
or second pot of coffee. Forget the cup, ye man,
that caffeine. I pour the cup out, pour a fill
a cup, and then I'll drink it right out of
the pot. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 25 (01:04:37):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 27 (01:04:40):
Hey, just Introvene.

Speaker 13 (01:04:41):
This is the way to go, man, I'm telling you.

Speaker 12 (01:04:43):
There you go.

Speaker 13 (01:04:44):
Now you mentioned you mentioned earlier, and this was something
that got my attention several days ago. In fact, actually,
what was it about two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Weeks ago when.

Speaker 13 (01:04:57):
The first missile hit the first Druss unquote drug boat? Yes,
Venezuelan coast. Now we have no evidence that that was
real or that the boat was really carrying drugs. We
don't know. Because everything is now at the bottom of
the damn otion, We don't really know what was on

(01:05:17):
that boat. So basically we just kind of have to
at this point take.

Speaker 12 (01:05:22):
Them at their word, which I'm not very good at
since a Trump.

Speaker 13 (01:05:26):
Yeah, having listened to Trump and what he's been saying
since all of this and continuing to watch, is this
unfolds the conflict now between the Trump administration and the
Maduro administration. I'm I'm kind of torn as to how
I feel about this, and just to kind of try

(01:05:51):
to play the devil's advocate for a moment, I think
I kind of understand where Trump is coming from when
he says that, you know, the Coast Guard being on
this job for all these years has really not made
much of a difference. It's been difference at all, and
so we're kind of having to step it up a

(01:06:11):
little bit. What I hear when he says this, and
maybe I'm wrong, is the Coast Guard has been doing
this job for many, many, many years, how long it is,
however many years it's been, but it just seems like
there is no end in sight, and we're not. We

(01:06:33):
don't seem to be making any headway. The drug smugglers
and traffickers are continuously coming up with new ways, and
so all of this stuff is going on. So what
we're going to do, and this is how I read
Trump's comments, What we're trying to do is we're trying
to make it so expensive for these people, for the

(01:06:54):
drug cartels, that you're just not willing to do it anymore.
So if we just start blowing their boats up, stop
chasing on, stop doing this, stop doing whatever, just start
blowing their boats up, maybe that will curb the flow
of these illicit drugs coming into our country. Now, if

(01:07:15):
that's what he's saying, I understand that because I've just
recently learned. Fifty five miles away from me is a
city called Athens, Georgia. It's where the University of Georgia,
the Georgia Bulldogs are from. They just recently took down
a massive, probably one of the largest drug operations in

(01:07:42):
the history of Georgia and quite possibly one of the
largest in the country in say the past thirty years.
This was an international cartel working out of Mexico. That
I mean, these these folks when they busted I mean

(01:08:04):
it was several businesses, homes throughout the Athens College Campus,
residential areas, and others, and I mean living right there
on college campus. Millions of dollars in illicit drugs sentinel
for example, cocaine and other drugs. They seized, a massive

(01:08:26):
stockpile of weapons.

Speaker 12 (01:08:29):
Yeah, I would be interested to know though, how much
of that is coming in.

Speaker 13 (01:08:32):
And and and miss what do they call them rocket launchers?
And that I mean I watched I watched the video
of the raid taking place, and I was completely floored
at what I was wanting. And this is fifty five
miles away from me. Yeah, so this is really hitting

(01:08:53):
home to me. So I'm kind of torn as to
how I feel about the Trump administration approach towards dealing
with Venezuela and the drug cartels at this point. But
in a way, I do kind of understand it, because somehow,
some way, We've got to find a way of dealing

(01:09:13):
with these people. And I'm almost at the point to
say to where I'm I'm I'm almost at that point
where I'm willing to say, let's just blow them all
up and be done with it. I'm putting them to
it once and for all.

Speaker 12 (01:09:28):
Yeah, the problem is, you know, there Yet I'm also
I'm also torn in the sense that I don't want
communist countries, you know, basically China and you know, being
able to control our you know, operate in our hemisphere
and and and and operate literally within you know, a

(01:09:51):
very short distance, you know, or right on our border.
You know. So there is there is that problem as well.
But at the same time, I am very deaf against
foreign invasion, foreign you know, regime changes, you know. Yeah,
foreign entanglements. Good, thank you, Vicky exactly. You know, just

(01:10:12):
like Washington warrened in his farewell address, you know, avoid
foreign entanglements, avoid you know, allegiances to any nation, you know,
and you know, adversity, you know, unnecessary adversity or adversarial
positions against any nation. So this is really a complex issue,

(01:10:33):
isn't it. It's very difficult to know exactly where the
line is. But I have a real problem with this
unilateral action that's being taken place. If this is something
that should be done, I guess we should at least
have a conversation about it nationally, and and and I
think Congress should be weighing in rather than the president

(01:10:56):
acting unilaterally. What do you think of that?

Speaker 13 (01:11:01):
Yeah, I agree, And I mean, if there is actual
evidence that these boats are carrying, you know, hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of dollars worth of illicit drugs, I
have no problem blowing them out of the water.

Speaker 12 (01:11:18):
But we don't really know that though, do you guys
remember the id hold on both of you talking at once.

Speaker 13 (01:11:28):
Oh, I do not like the idea of entering Venezuela's waters.
I do not like the idea of putting boots on
the ground in Venezuela.

Speaker 12 (01:11:39):
Yeah, and that may very well be coming next.

Speaker 14 (01:11:41):
That would be just repeating what was going on in
the seventies and eighties. You guys remember Miami Vice right,
Oh yeah, and oh yeah, that's what that program was about,
you know, drug runners bringing drugs into Florida. And I

(01:12:02):
remember in the seventies when we used to send our
military down into the jungles in South America, South and
Central America because that's where the drug people were cooking
their drugs. But the difference now is that they have
the support of China. China has gotten a and this

(01:12:27):
was given to them. They have a corner on the
supply of the ingredients for the drugs, so they send
in to our country the ingredients and they have no excuse.
Our government has no excuse for not knowing about this,

(01:12:47):
because that's that was the strategy of war against Germany
in World War two, was to control the supply chains.
The way they control the supply chains is to control
the one key ingredient that they must have to produce.

Speaker 12 (01:13:08):
And China does. Would I think they are actually actively
trying to destabilize the United States, because that's that's their
way of waging war.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:13:20):
In fact, I think Sun Zoo would have something to
say about this. You know, they can't engage.

Speaker 14 (01:13:26):
Say I'm not taking China's part in this, but our
government has been rogue for a long long time, right,
and and our members of Congress make a lot of
money facilitating what I guess what you'd call the military
industrial complex.

Speaker 12 (01:13:48):
Right, What were you seeing? Art warned us about say
that again, shot, Vicky.

Speaker 13 (01:13:55):
Vicky was saying that our country has been been rogue
for many years, and I was just saying that it's
been that way longer than I've been alive. Yeah, two
years old. Yeah, So I mean, but but you know,
something has got to be done. We've got to stem
the tide of these illegal drugs like Sentinel and stuff

(01:14:17):
like that coming into the country. How exactly we do that,
I guess it is still up for debate.

Speaker 14 (01:14:26):
But how about the death penalty? End of story.

Speaker 13 (01:14:32):
I'm willing to say, I don't care what you have
to do to end the flow of drugs coming into
the country, as long as you do not violate the
sovereign territory of another country unless they attack us first.

Speaker 12 (01:14:49):
Yeah. Well, the problem is, I don't know, you know,
I don't really want a bunch of sea vessels targeted
by the US military if we don't know for sure
that they I don't know. I don't know what kind
of intelligence they're gathering. I don't know how accurate it is.
And that's the problem is when you have unilateral action

(01:15:11):
like this, we don't really know what's going on. Like
you said, we have to kind of take their word
for it. And I'm not very good at taking politicians
word for anything. Who no matter which politicians are. So anyway, Hey,
I appreciate the call though, good thoughts as usual, you
have a great one. Yep, thank you talk to you later. Yep,
bye bye. That was Art and Georgia and folks, we

(01:15:35):
do have a few minutes left if you'd like to
call in six ten, six hundred and seventeen seventy six.
Don't wait too close to the bottom of the hour, though,
because we've got another guest coming up here at the
bottom of the hour. In the meantime, you know, we've
got the situation going on. You know, I've been talking
a lot about the Middle East, because that's what we
do here, the Middle East, other subjects, Net and Yahoo.

(01:15:58):
Spoke at the United Nations back a few weeks ago,
and he was advocating a big time mass murder campaign
going on there. He was pushing for regime change across
the Middle East. Everybody is a terrorist if Israel wants
their land. And when he got up, a massive number

(01:16:18):
of delegates walked out on him, but he went ahead undaunted,
bragging about all of the death and killing that they're
doing over there.

Speaker 28 (01:16:24):
Last year, I stood at this podium and I showed
this map.

Speaker 21 (01:16:29):
This map. It shows the curse of Iran.

Speaker 12 (01:16:32):
It's him being heckled too.

Speaker 28 (01:16:33):
This terror, this axis threatened the peace of the entire world.
It threatened the stability of our region and the very
existence of my country Israel. Iran was rapidly developing a
massive nuclear weapons program and a massive ballistic missile program.
These were meant not only to destroy Israel, they were

(01:16:54):
met also to threaten the United States and blackmailed nations everywhere.
From Gaza Yeja, Sinoar dispatched waves of Ramas terrists.

Speaker 21 (01:17:04):
They stormed into his room on October.

Speaker 28 (01:17:07):
Seventh and committed acts of unspeakable savagery. From Lebanon, Hassan
Aswala had launched thousands of missiles and rockets at our cities,
terrorizing our citizens. In Syria, the murderous dictator Asad hosted
Iran's forces, tightening a noose.

Speaker 21 (01:17:24):
Of death around our throats.

Speaker 28 (01:17:26):
In Yemen, the Jutis launched ballistic missiles at Israel while
choking global trade at the mouth.

Speaker 21 (01:17:32):
Of the Red Sea. So what's happened over the past year.

Speaker 28 (01:17:35):
We've hammered the UTIs, including yesterday, we crushed the bulk
of Ramas's terror machine. We crippled his Bala, taking out
most of its leaders and much of its weapons.

Speaker 21 (01:17:45):
Arsenal, you remember.

Speaker 28 (01:17:47):
Those beepers, the pagers we paged his Bala and believing
they got the missing and.

Speaker 12 (01:17:52):
Now you know he's bragging about blowing people up with
portable pagers thousands.

Speaker 14 (01:17:58):
Of ye why would he be doing that at the
u N. It's almost like he's taunting them here, saying
that you know, I'm a mass killing work.

Speaker 12 (01:18:11):
From proud of it, probably right right.

Speaker 14 (01:18:14):
In the whole world's face.

Speaker 12 (01:18:16):
Yeah, exactly, they're proud of it.

Speaker 21 (01:18:18):
And thousands of terrorists.

Speaker 12 (01:18:21):
Than terrorist, let's applause the desk.

Speaker 21 (01:18:24):
Drop to the garden. We destroyed us as.

Speaker 12 (01:18:27):
Who's a terrorist? Anybody that disagrees for.

Speaker 28 (01:18:30):
We destroyed us as armaments in Syria. We deterred Iran's
Sha militias in Iraq, and most importantly, and above anything
else that I could say to you or that we
did in this past year, in this past decade, we
devastated Iran's atomic weapons and ballistic missiles programs. So here's
where things stand today. Half the Houti leadership in Yemen gone,

(01:18:54):
you Hea sin war in Gaza gone, na started, Hassan
Aezuela in Lebanon, gone, the Acid regime in Syria gone,
those missiles, those militias in Iraq, well they're still deterred,
and their leaders, if they attack Israel will also be gone.
And for Iran's top military commanders and a stop atomic

(01:19:16):
bomb scientists, well they're gone. To Israel's twelve day war
with Iran, which I renamed Operation Rising Line, that's from
the Bible. This twelve day war will go down in
the annals of military history. Are daring pilots neutralized Iran's
missile defenses and took control of the skies over Tehran.

Speaker 12 (01:19:36):
Okay, I want to stop it right there. I want
to remind people the words of General Wesley Clark about
how he learned of the plan after nine to eleven
to take out seven countries in five years. I just
want to play this clip again because it goes perfectly
with what Nenyahu is saying here.

Speaker 29 (01:19:51):
About ten days after nine eleven, I went through the
Pentagon and I saw Sergery Rams failed and Deputy Surgery Wolf,
which I went downstairs, just sail over to some of
the people and the joint staff who used to work
for me, and one of the generals called me and
he said, Sir, you got to come in. You got
to come in and talk to me.

Speaker 12 (01:20:07):
A second.

Speaker 29 (01:20:08):
I said, we're too busy.

Speaker 12 (01:20:09):
He said no.

Speaker 29 (01:20:09):
No, he says, we've made the decision. We're going to
war with Iraq. This was Honor about the twentieth of September.
I said, we're going to war with Iraq? Why, he said,
I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know
what else to do. So I said, well, did they

(01:20:30):
find some information collect connecting saidam to al Qaeda? He
said now, no, he says there's nothing new that way.
They've just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.
He said, I guess it's like we don't know what
to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military
and we can take down governments. And he said, I
guess if the only two you have is a hammer,

(01:20:51):
every problem has to look like a nail. So I
came back to see him a few weeks later, and
by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said,
are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh,
it's worse than that, he said. He reached over on
his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. He said,
I just he said, I just got this down from
upstairs meeting the Secreary Events Office today and he said,

(01:21:12):
this Samimo that describes how we're going to take out
seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan,
and finishing off Iran, Iran.

Speaker 12 (01:21:26):
There you go. Greater Israel, folks, that's what it's about.
They want to Israel is very critical to building the
new World Order. Controlling the Middle East and a new
World order is exactly what we don't want. We don't want.
All right, we got to take the bottom of the
hour break and we'll come back in a moment. David

(01:21:48):
Mantick will be joining us. We're going to be talking
about the Charlie Kirk assassination and how it kind of
parallels the jfk assassination. He's been studying that angle, and
we'll get his take on that when we come back.
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Speaker 12 (01:26:30):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America. Vicky
Davis is here. I'm during Weeks and we continue on here.
I was not able to reach David Mantick. I did
leave him a message, so we'll see if he calls
into the phone bridge here in the next half hour.
But in the meantime we move on because the show
has to go on. Uh and UH, lots going on.

(01:26:52):
You know, we were talking about the Middle East earlier,
and Lebanon is one of the countries also that is
targeted for expansion for control of the Middle East by
the New World Order. And here we see from the
activist posts. Fresh from its success in overthrowing the government
of Syria and the assassination of the Prime Minister of Yemen,
the US Israeli Alliance has its sites set on a

(01:27:15):
new target Hesbela. Last week, the United States government sent
two hundred thirty million dollars in military aid to the
Lebanese army. This enormous weapons package was given was greenlit
with one objective to dismantle HESBELA as a force capable
of resisting Israeli attacks. In September, the Lebanese government rubber

(01:27:35):
stamped the Trump administration's planned to disarm the civilian military organization,
which holds fifteen seats in the Lebanese Parliament. Our return
to the Mint Cast to discuss the tense political situation.
This is I'll tell you what. This is a podcast.
Let me put this in the show notes and you

(01:27:55):
can hear this because I think this is mint Press News.
They've done some great work work. But uh, it's interesting
that I remember Lee Stranahan talking about the people over
in Lebanon, the Christians there, and they were talking about
how they would love to be able to support them
addle uh, the Israeli government, but unfortunately the Israeli government

(01:28:17):
kept killing them. And this is the thing that really,
I know, I seem very anti Israel. I'm not against
the Israeli people, folks, but I am against an occupy
occupation force which is killing, murdering, slaughtering the people and
basically ethnic ethnic cleansing the people of Palestine. And that

(01:28:40):
is something that as a Christian I have to come
out against. And I think that that's really a blind
spot in Christendom today in a big way. We look
the other way because we don't understand those people. They're
different from us, they have different beliefs from us, and
so we tend to look the other way. And the
other problem is Christians are under the notion, under the idea,

(01:29:02):
under the impression, I think falsely so that the Israel
of today is the Israel of the Bible, that nineteen
forty eight Israel, which was a construct of the Rothschilds,
this wealthy, wealthy billionaire dynasty. Is you know that there

(01:29:25):
are the same, one and the same and that's certainly,
in my opinion, is not the case. I see that
we have a David Mantick on the line, so I'll
tell you what We're going to go ahead and go
to him in the interest of time. David Mantik is
one of the foremost medical experts on the jfk assassination.
He has personally examined President Kennedy's autopsy X rays at

(01:29:45):
the National Archives and has spent decades proving through hard
scientific evidence that Kennedy was struck by bullets from the front,
contradicting the official loan gunman narrative, and now he sees
an eerie pattern emerging, one that draws disturbing parallels between
Dallas nineteen sixty three and Utah Valley twenty twenty five.

(01:30:06):
Mantick has noted up to a dozen strong similarities between
the assassination of Kennedy and Kirk, from the immediate lockdown
on physical evidence to the swift shaping of a consensus
narrative before any facts were given or any facts were established. Anyway,

(01:30:27):
he's going to be talking today this half hour on
the subject of Charlie Kirk's assassination and the parallels with
the Kennedy assassination. Hey, thank you, David, appreciate, appreciate you
joining us today.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
Yes, thank you very much for having me on.

Speaker 12 (01:30:43):
Yeah, Vicky Davis is here as well, and so Vicky's
my co host. Say, hi, Vicky, Hi, glad to have you. Yeah,
let's just dive right in. What similarities are you talking
about when you see different similarities between the JFK assassination
in that of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Well, the first and obvious item is transparency. We never
had transparency in the JFK case for decades and decades,
and we were finally getting it after six decades. And
here in the Kirk case, Blackwives, there are a lot
of things we don't know. Of course, some of this
may come out later, but we don't know. For example,

(01:31:26):
what the ballistics showed. Supposedly, the surgeon found a bullet
under the skin in Charlie's silver, but we don't really
know if ballistics showed the match to the weapon, which
was found in a wooded area. Then there's a matter
of the magic bullet, which is very famous in the
JFK case, Supposedly but not actually that bullet went through

(01:31:49):
JFK's body, and so likewise, in the Kirk case, we're
told that the bullet entered Kirk's body but didn't it
was dust under the skin. Even though the thirty bullet
rarely does that. That still seems very odd to many people.
So those are just a few things to start with.

Speaker 12 (01:32:10):
Yeah, and I love how they refer to Charlie as
the man of Steel, you know, he's, uh, yeah, he can.
He can stop bullets and save lives by even in
his death, he saved people from getting shot. So it's
it's kind of ridiculous some of the stuff that's that's
being said. And as you point out, lots of questions,

(01:32:31):
lots of questions about this whole situation. But I'm wondering,
how does your direct examination of JFK's X rays inform
your skepticism towards the official count of Kirk's death. Is
that kind of what you just kind of outlined.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Yes, we'll focus on one item to start with. When
the autopsy was done, X rays were taken at Afk's body.
Of course, we'd like to know that rays were taken
out Kirk's body as well, and what did those X
ray show.

Speaker 27 (01:33:03):
Did they find.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Evidence of a bullet on the X ray? Did they
find bullet fragments on the X ray? What exactly did
they find? We were in JFK's case, we were told
that there were no bullets or large fragments of a
bullet found in Jk's body. But five years later the
X rays become public and everybody sees that there's a

(01:33:26):
cross section of a bullet on the frontal X ray
right inside of Jok's right eye. Well, how did that happen?
It wasn't there during the autopsy, and so during the
five year interval it pops up. What's going on here?

Speaker 27 (01:33:41):
Well, with my measurements, I was able to show that
that was added later to indicate Oswald suggesting that he
had shot a six point five millimeters object behind JFK.

Speaker 12 (01:33:57):
Yeah. You know, That's what's interesting is that I've heard
ballistics experts who with military background talk about how the
hole in Charlie's neck on the what would be his
left side, but as we're looking directly at him, it
would be on the right. It couldn't be an entrance wound.
It had to be an exit wound because the way

(01:34:18):
the blood poured and that sort of thing, it was
definitely how an exit wound would behave. And I've always
in this same ballistics expert was talking about how he
believes that the entrance wound was on the other side
of the neck went into either either the head or
the or the neck. But yet we what and what

(01:34:41):
bothers me is that immediately people have pointed out that
people from inside who actually worked for Turning Point USA
rushed to collect a lot of the video evidence, and
the excuse given was so that it doesn't fall in
the wrong hands or isn't taken by the wrong person.
None of that video evidence has ever been released, and

(01:35:03):
it would be interesting to see it, and not for
the gore of it, but just because we're not getting
the information that we would expect from a federal investigation
if it was an honest investigation, and so as as
ordinary sleuths. Basically, it would be nice to be able
to investigate and find out for ourselves if in fact

(01:35:26):
there was an entrance woon on the other side, and
so that would strongly suggest that there, if in fact
there was an entrance woon on the other side, that
there could have very well been a shooter coming from
the other direction. I don't know if that makes any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
Yeah, sure, those at all questions and would be right.
We don't have answers to them. We'd love to see
the autos and report, and we hope that when the
trial comes about eventually we'll see the autops and report,
and I hope we'll see the ballistic evidence.

Speaker 25 (01:35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
My understanding of Utah law is that they're not required
to release the autopsy reports. I've seen other people call
for that. But if it's not, if it's not in
the family, if the family doesn't want it released, then
it won't be. So therein lies the problem, a very
convenient way of sweeping things under the under the rug.
And so is there any specific evidence or procedural patterns

(01:36:24):
that suggest that both investigations, the JFK and the Charlie Kirk,
other than maybe the physical evidence, I don't know that
they're all steered toward a predetermined solution.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Well, then the JFKK, so all of the medical personnel
who are at the autopsy, all the doctors, and all
the para professionals too, were silently told never ever to
talk about this case. So they signed an agreement to
keep their mouths shut, which they did for many years.

(01:37:00):
So the question is what happened to the people who
witnessed this scene. Are they under some kind of oath
of silence as well? Do you have any idea?

Speaker 12 (01:37:10):
I'm curious too, No, I don't. I strongly suggest, strongly
suspect that they have been threatened. I wouldn't be a
bit surprised about that, but I have no specific insight
into that. Uh, and and and then we have a
lot of other irregularities. You know, I don't know are
you're familiar with. There's there's allegations of aircraft that were

(01:37:31):
in the area at the time, one of which was
said to have turned off its beacon, and then later
on I think cash Pttel said no, the beacon was
never shut off. Yet I think there was a contradiction
within the federal government itself saying that it was authorized
to turn off its beacon. So there's that question. And
you got a lot of the text messages that were

(01:37:54):
supposedly put out by this alleged purp, the alleged shooter
to his homosexual lover, which just writes, you know, it
sounds like a flowery poem, poetic effort at being having
a masterpiece. You know, it makes no sense. It's not

(01:38:16):
something that doesn't sound like something a guy would write,
and it certainly doesn't sound like something an ordinary person
would write. I don't know you have any thoughts on
any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Oh, I knew to you.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
I quite agree with all the things you said. This
is a very strange case, and the secrecy, of course,
is what compounds it. When evidence is not forthcoming. That
should be forthcoming. Then we all get a little suspicious,
and based on the Day of k case, we've learned
that we should be suspicious, and especially when there is

(01:38:52):
a motive for a cover up, and we wonder, what
is the motive here? Why did this happen? Is there
some or even transnational entity behind all of these events?
And we don't know the answers, but it looks very
dark and gloomy.

Speaker 12 (01:39:08):
Yeah. Well, I've heard a lot about of people speculating
about how like Candace Owens has come out in recent
days and talked about how Charlie was very concerned that
he was being smeared. He was very concerned about certain
Israeli donors who had become disenfranchised, I guess with his

(01:39:33):
position on a lot of the things that Netanyahu was
doing over there, and you know, was speaking out against it,
or at least not being quite as supportive. So there
was some speculation about some of that. What do you
think of that?

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Yeah, I've heard what Canada has said, and I've also
researched some of her claims, and it does appear that
they were some very the sponsors behind the turning point
who were beginning to turn against him, and he was
very concerned and upset about it. I cut all of
that too, which makes the whole story even deeper in

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gloomy air.

Speaker 12 (01:40:16):
Yeah. So, what are some of the other unanswered questions
that you feel are very important to address?

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
Well, the observations of witnesses would be very interesting here.
Supposedly Tyler Robinson was able to hide the weapon in
his trousers, and that reminds us of Lee Harvey Oswald,
who supposedly wrapped his weapon in wrapping paper in order

(01:40:48):
to bring it into the conservatory. Neither of those things
seemed cool likely, So that's another uncanny resemblance in the
two cases.

Speaker 14 (01:40:58):
The gun was a thirty six, right, that he was
a rifle that'd be pretty damn hard to stick into
your pants and still be able to walk.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Yeah, I sure so, And I doubt that Lee Harvey
Oswald actually did that with wrapping paper either. Now, the
wrapping paper is another whole crazy story which we won't
get into today, but the similarities are rather stunning.

Speaker 13 (01:41:25):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:41:25):
What's what's interesting about that is that they they made
the statement that he had been on the roof with
this study hot sex and that he somehow shoved it
in his pants, and then later on I heard that
you all, no, he must have disassembled it, but then
it was found in the woods. In fact, I think

(01:41:45):
that they even said that he disassembled it, which raises
a whole lot of other questions about that, because how
could he have disassembled it that quickly? And then uh,
and then but then it was found in the woods,
allegedly wrapped in the towel, fully assembled. So, I mean,
the kind of aradictions there are are incredible. And then
he supposedly waited in a car waiting for the police

(01:42:07):
to leave so he could go and retrieve his grandfather's
rifle or something. I mean, the whole thing just sounds
like the number one. They didn't get their story together
and uh, and so they're just kind of making it
up as they go along. What do you what do
you think of that?

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Yeah, it's like something out of a Porty written novel.

Speaker 25 (01:42:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:42:30):
And then and then we got the situation where the
cameras on campus. Now, anybody's been to a university campus
knows the whole thing. Every campus is covered with cameras today,
and and these are very high definition cameras because they
have to be I mean, what's the point in having
them if you have blurry shots and all we get

(01:42:52):
is this one blurry shot of this guy jumping off
the roof and you can't make anything out. No, no,
we don't get to see the face.

Speaker 27 (01:43:03):
That's a complete face, but we don't.

Speaker 12 (01:43:06):
Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to talk over you. Yeah, yeah, no,
no facial recognition, just a long shot and completely blurry,
and then some guy running off somewhere. And so there's
there's just a lot of things like that that it
seems like they could, really, if they wanted to clear
things up, come right out. So the question then becomes,

(01:43:27):
you know, we're yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Yeah, I agree on these simple matters. Why can't we
have clarity on it in transparency? But no, I don't
think we're going to get it either.

Speaker 12 (01:43:42):
Yeah, now, JFK. You believe that he was shot the
bullet came from from from in front, so basically like
the driver.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
Or that his head was hit by his head was
hit by three separate shots. Okay, one was probably from
the grassy, which is long standing tradition, but the hard
evidence is actually consistent with that it entered his right
temple and then blew out the back of his head,
but he had also been shot from the back in

(01:44:14):
the right occipital area, and the X rays actually are
very convincing as well. In his forehead there's an evidence
of a third shot. There are tiny metallic particles right
near the forehead and that can only come from a
frontal shot, that can come from a posterior shot. So
you've got really hard evidence of three shots to his head,

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two in the front, one from the rear.

Speaker 12 (01:44:39):
Yeah, and when you look at the Zapruter film, it's
I think very telling. Also, one thing that I saw
on the video is it seems very apparent to me
that the Secret Service was urged ordered to stand down
because there's a one particular officer there that just is

(01:45:02):
throwing his hands up, can't believe he's been given that order.
And prior to that he was run alongside the car.
So that seems pretty obvious. You would think that any
investigation would include as to why that person was ordered
to get away from the car, wouldn't you think.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Yeah, James Rowley was in charge of the Secret Service,
and James, immediately after the assassination, had concluded that there
had been a conspiracy with at least three shooters, So
that's the guy who's in charge of the Secret Service.
It was a conspiracy and there were at least three shooters,

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so that's his public opinion.

Speaker 14 (01:45:44):
Yeah, so that's a lot.

Speaker 12 (01:45:49):
Yeah, where do you where would you like to see
this investigation?

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Go?

Speaker 12 (01:45:52):
I mean, I guess we're just kind of kind of
stuck waiting for the trial. This, what I think, is
going to essentially be a Sjoe try Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
Yeah, that's the question. Yeah, that is the question is
are we really going to see the facts? You know,
analogous to the Warrant Commission, who we didn't really get
to the facts. It was a cover up from the
very beginning. So what's going to happen here? Is it
going to be another cover up? Or are they really
going to give us the ballistic report? Are they going

(01:46:22):
to give us the autopsy report? Are they going to
actually shoot thirty six bullets from that weapon and compare
the rifling pattern to the bullet that was found in
Kirk Those are really central issues.

Speaker 12 (01:46:36):
Yeah, and I maintained that whatever the autopsy report says,
and there's certainly the person that was performing the autopsy,
my understanding was it was a brand new they were
new on the job, and there were a number of
officials heard that too. Yeah, there were a number of
officials that were new on the job. So that autopsy report,

(01:46:56):
I'm guessing it's probably going to say whatever the FEDS
wanted to say.

Speaker 14 (01:47:00):
Yeah, well, that's not convenient.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
To the new mission too.

Speaker 12 (01:47:05):
Yeah, that's that also as similar to the Warrent Commission.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
You said, Yes, it is because the pathologists on the
job that night were not officially trained in forensic pathology.
Even though some of the best forensic pathologists in the
in the world were available that night, they were not.

Speaker 12 (01:47:23):
Called Hmmm, yeah, that's interesting, very interesting.

Speaker 14 (01:47:29):
Well do you know if the uh the new forensic
pathologists in Utah or are were they new to the
profession or just new to the job.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
I personally do not know that background story, So either
of you should contribute.

Speaker 8 (01:47:52):
If you know.

Speaker 12 (01:47:53):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:47:55):
I don't know. I just I didn't even I didn't
even know there were new people on the job for
that autopsy. But that but that's in.

Speaker 12 (01:48:06):
Yeah, that's something that was reported. But we're just about
out of time and we got a couple of minutes left.
Is there anything else that you feel like is noteworthy
or important to discuss regarding this case.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
Well, I think that my latest book is quite a
breakthrough on who ordered the execution of JFK and why
did they order it. So the book title is JFK
Was Killed by Consensus. So you can purchase that on Amazon, Okay,
and I think when you read the book you'll you'll
think more about the parallels here.

Speaker 12 (01:48:41):
Okay, Yeah, very good. JFK was Killed by Consensus And
we can get it from Amazon, right, Okay, we'll put
a link in the show notes for that. Hey, I
appreciate you joining us, and I hope you'll come back.
And because it's very very important. Obviously, they say history

(01:49:01):
repeats itself, and I think there's a number of people
we'd like to be able to believe that the people
who are MAGA, the people who are their conservatives in
the government, are actually not engaging in cover up operations,
especially with such Yeah, we hope. So such an important person,
you know, and yet it looks like Charlie Kirk was

(01:49:25):
sacrificed for some reason. And you know, unfortunately, we need
to get to the bottom of it. It's very unfortunate
that the American people have to actually be the detective.
But hey, I appreciate you being out there, yeah, asking
the questions.

Speaker 27 (01:49:38):
Go ahead, speaking sacrifice.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
I was just going to say, Lee Harvey oswell also
a sacrifice. So we have two sacrifices here another parallel.

Speaker 12 (01:49:46):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, Well, listen, I appreciate you
joining us today, and I hope you'll come back and
folks can get the book JFK was Killed by consensus
from Amazon? Is doctor uh David Mantick in the and
t I K. You got a website? Is that the

(01:50:08):
demanticview dot org. Is that that's your website?

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Yeah, that's the website, right, okay.

Speaker 12 (01:50:13):
And and on that. What can we find there if
we go there?

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
Well, the most recent thing I put there is a
photographic collection of all the characters in the JFK assassination.
No one has ever even tried to do this before.
It goes on for almost one hundred pages of photograph,
so I think a lot of people will find this
very interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:50:36):
Okay, very good. Once again, the manticview dot org. The
manticview dot org, Doctor David Mantick, thank you so much
for being with us on Governor America. God bless you sir,
thank you very much. All right, we'll talk soon.

Speaker 10 (01:50:49):
Thank you.

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From famer Regions five and ten. This is the third
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continues here, I'm looking at an article here from the
from WLNS TV here right here from the Capital City.
It says the federal government shut down delayed the monthly
Consumer Price Index or CPI report expected on Wednesday, clouding
the picture for Michigan households already grappling with higher grocery bills.

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The CPI, typically used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
is a key gauge of inflation that guides everything from
interest rate expectations to cost of living adjustments. Without the
October update, retailers and families lose the data point on
food at home prices, making it harder to plan budgets
and assess whether checkout increases are easing or worsening. Now,

(01:56:39):
I don't know about you, VICKI, but before I go
to buy groceries, every time I look at the Consumer
Price Index to find out what I'm going to be
paying at the store. How about you, Oh yeah, no
question about it. So I don't know if I can
go shopping now that the CPI report isn't going to
be coming out.

Speaker 32 (01:56:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:56:59):
It takes a win right out of your sales, doesn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:57:02):
Yeah. Well, for the record, I don't trust any government
statistics anything that they publish. Yeah, because you can use
statistics for any message you want. And I have several
documented cases on my website where statistics were fabricated and

(01:57:27):
just absolute flat out lies. And so, you know, the
Trump administration keeps saying that price of Groceri's gone down,
you know, prices are coming down. Well, I'm not seeing it.

Speaker 25 (01:57:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:57:42):
You know, it reminds me of George Orwell's nineteen eighty
four where Winston Smith kept seeing that big brother was
saying that the price of chocolates was going down, and
yet he could see with his own eyes just very
much the way you're saying that it wasn't going down,
but it was actually going up. So we're literally living
in Warwell's world in every way, shape and form.

Speaker 14 (01:58:04):
Absolutely, that's a good way to characterize it.

Speaker 12 (01:58:08):
But we see now that the agricultural industry in the
United States is deeply broken, as is Michael Snyder. Writing
on the Economic Collapse blog. He says farmers are the
foundation of it all, but they're being financially squeezed from
every direction. They're being squeezed by the giant monopolies that
control the seeds, fertilizer, machinery that they need, and they're

(01:58:29):
also being squeezed by the giant monopolies that purchase most
of what we produce what they produce. Meanwhile, demand from
overseas is dried up thanks to the global trade war.
US farmers really are facing a perfect storm and the
result are that most farms are losing money and bankruptcies
are surging. Well, you know, this has been going on
my entire life, and more and more. In fact, they

(01:58:51):
just opened up in Parma Township, not far from where
I'm at right now here in Jackson County in Michigan,
a massive SIEV solar project. I mean acres, hundreds of acres.
I guess they had an aerial view in the paper,
and it was unbelievable how wide and far reaching this

(01:59:14):
solar project is. So I remember several years ago, probably
close to twenty years ago now, we were talking about
how farmers their land was being used instead of growing food,
it was being used to grow corn for ethanol. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:59:33):
I consider this to be asymmetric warfare, and it's asymmetric
against the American people and American business, and it's waged
by our own foreign State Department organization. I think the

(01:59:55):
State Department is the enemy of the American people.

Speaker 12 (01:59:59):
Frankly, I agree with you, and I don't think anything
much has changed under the Trump administration other than a
lot of the rhetoric. Unfortunately, although I looked at sustainability
dot gov and I don't see a whole lot going
on there, at least the last time I.

Speaker 14 (02:00:16):
Checked, so well, And that brings that's encouraging point that
I've been working on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
The whole.

Speaker 14 (02:00:25):
When they joined the WTO, they changed the entire paradigm
of our country, and I do believe it's unconstitutional. They
went from response to prevention. As as a doctrine, you know,

(02:00:47):
and by that, I mean, if there's a hurricane, you
respond to it. But when they shifted, when they inverted
the paradigm, they went to prevention before the event. You
know how much money that our country has just wasted

(02:01:08):
on prevention if you look at FEMA and what they've done,
they basically used prevention to shut down our economy sector,
BI sector and it and why people, well, I don't know.

(02:01:29):
I guess I'm one of those odd people that look
back at history because I've always looked back trying to
find when did this insanity begin? You know, when when
did they start doing this? And that's what I arrived
at was when they established the World Trade Organization. They

(02:01:51):
started flooding our country with foreign workers that multinational corporations
could import into our country, basically destroying our culture, taking
jobs from the American people by importing foreign workforces. And

(02:02:11):
they've done the same thing with the agriculture, you know,
flooding our markets with foreign imported goods, making it not
profitable for a farmer to be in business, trying to
make our farmers compete in a global market. Well, you

(02:02:36):
know what, the United States has three hundred million people
and there are a billion and a half people over
in China, and India has about one point three billion people,
and we're going to compete with that, right.

Speaker 12 (02:02:53):
Well, I think that we don't. The problem is we've
we're dealing with the results of many, many decades of politicians. Yeah, exactly,
treason politicians who are have put everybody else other than

(02:03:15):
America first and now.

Speaker 14 (02:03:19):
And mostly mostly first their own pockets.

Speaker 12 (02:03:23):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So Michael Snyder is saying that the
US farmers are now facing the worst economic downturn in
the last fifty years. Uh, and that's we If the
farmers lose, we all lose, folks. You know, it's a
part of the whole depopulation agenda. You know, it's interesting
that the NHS over in the UK now is promoting

(02:03:46):
first cousin marriages. First cousin. You've heard the term kissingges cousins.

Speaker 14 (02:03:52):
Yeah, that's where you get retarded people.

Speaker 12 (02:03:55):
Yeah. Well maybe that's where all of our politicians are
coming from. They want everybody else to be in bread
just like they are.

Speaker 14 (02:04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:04:03):
Could be.

Speaker 14 (02:04:04):
Well, that's true. I mean it's almost like when a
member of Congress dies and his wife suddenly is appointed.
It's like keeping it in the family.

Speaker 12 (02:04:18):
Yeah, exactly. So we see also from the UK UK's
Green Party demands abolition of private landlords. So we're seeing
big time an attack on property rights everywhere, you know.

Speaker 14 (02:04:31):
Yeah, that's totally communist.

Speaker 12 (02:04:33):
Yeah, completely communism. And it's Tyler Durden. Actually, this is
Jonathan Turley on zero Hedge. On Sunday, the Green Party
in the United Kingdom voted to quote unquote abolish private landlords,
in a move that reaffirms the party as a largely
socialist movement. For some environmentalists, it is a sad hijacking

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of a cause by far left elements that moves it
away from its original environmental priorities. The motion passed at
the Greens conference and Burnamouth calls for the effective abolition
of private landlordism. What you're dealing with here, folks, is
if you you can't have an abolition of private landlordism

(02:05:20):
without an abolition of private property rights. It is is
land ownership, the ability to own land and do with
it as you as you want, because it's yours, supposedly.

Speaker 14 (02:05:35):
And when they opened up the borders, what did they do.
They allowed foreign corporations to come in and buy up
our assets, and land is a big.

Speaker 12 (02:05:46):
Asset, absolutely arguably the most important asset.

Speaker 14 (02:05:52):
And as far as I can see, it was the
g seven, the Gang of Seven that made all of
these decisions, running our foreign policy, passing it through the
State Department, and then from the State Department Legislative Affairs
right directly into Congress.

Speaker 12 (02:06:15):
Yeah, this piece, and zero Head says that, you know,
and the abolition of landlordism that would impact roughly three
million people in Britain who rent out properties, including at
least one high ranking Green official, Adrian Ramsey, who is
one of the Greens for in Peace. Ramsey insisted that

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he is not making a profit on his rental, you know,
because making a profit, I guess, would be bad. It's
bad to be able to pay your bills and keep
some of your own money from your own land, your
own property. According to these people, the Green Party is
committed to effectively eliminating private landlords through rent controls, a
land value tax, and other means. The move is reminiscent

(02:07:01):
of Zoran mam Donnie's call. This is the guy who
is the mayoral candidate in New York City. His call
to seize unoccupied luxury condos in New York and give
them to the homeless. He has also called for Democrat
socialists to seize the means of production in America. So
this guy is an unapologic, jetic, blatant communist. They're claiming

(02:07:26):
now that Zoran mamdani Is has less of a chance
in New York City after he did they just had
a debate where he took a bruising, which is good.
I'm very encouraged by this. But the fact that he
could even be in the running in the first place
is it's just mind blowing. And one of the things

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that we're going to talk to Wayne White at the
bottom of the hour about the decline of America and
the rise of communism, because you know, we.

Speaker 14 (02:07:56):
Used to have laws on the books against communism, against
the law to promote communism, and I found it at
one point and I went back to look again and
it wasn't it was gone.

Speaker 12 (02:08:15):
Well it's still to this day communism. I don't think
the law has ever been changed in this regard. Communism
is defined as a conspiracy to overthrow the government, so.

Speaker 14 (02:08:28):
And yeah, truly is yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:08:31):
Yeah, by the very nature of communism, it has to
And if you're going to have communism in America, you
certainly are overthrowing the system of government, the constitutional system,
because you can't completely the two are antithetical to each other.

Speaker 14 (02:08:46):
I think they threw that over when they established the
United Nations. You know, Dexter Harry Dexter White was a communist,
and so I assumed that the people that participated in
the conference that established the United Nations, I assume they

(02:09:08):
were communists. Yeah, I mean, I know Stephen Rockefeller was
one of the participants. I think it's Stephen Rockefeller. Oh no,
maybe Nelson Rockefeller. But but people that are rich can
buy their way out of it. People like us can't.

Speaker 12 (02:09:30):
Yeah, you know, the system of communism is for you
and me. That's that's you know, it's it's to control us.
And the control is being done by the people with
the with the means, with the sustenance. And that's the
way it always is.

Speaker 14 (02:09:48):
And when they globalized our economy, globalized our country, they
empowered the millionaires to become billionaires.

Speaker 12 (02:09:58):
Right exactly. So anyway that's going on over in the UK,
I think that's extremely important to keep track of the
push to abolish private property rights, to abolish you know,
in this case landlordism. You know, you can't rent, you
can't control your own property. It's being put off limits.

(02:10:19):
A number of different means are being utilized to do that. Certainly,
the green is so called green agenda, which is doctor
tim Ball and others have described as watermelon, you know,
in other words, green on the outside but red on
the inside, as as being the real goal, the real implementation,

(02:10:42):
a loss of our individual liberty. That's that's what it's
really all about. Here we see, speaking of the so
called green agenda from the Activist Post, we have nearly
one third of ev charging attempts fail, according to a report,
a newly released report. Now I talk to you about

(02:11:02):
these this push. Thank god that the Trump administration is
pulling back on this, that they're not allowing this ev
charging thing to go forward full street steam ahead, because
what the Biden administration was trying to push down our
throats all these electric vehicles, big big, big move toward

(02:11:26):
eliminating your ability to travel by car at all, which
would by necessity, make it completely possible, completely feasible, that
you would not be able to live in rural areas
because if you all you can access is public transportation folks.
Public transportation doesn't go out to the rural areas, right, So,

(02:11:47):
and I could completely see with this s technocratic system
being built, someday the car is being geo fenced where
they just won't allow you to go out into the
rural areas someday. It's just like we're seeing with right
now the move up in Canada where they're putting the
woods off limits in certain provinces. Yeah, under the fight.

Speaker 14 (02:12:13):
Totally trying to take over management of people as if
they are just objects. Absolutely, it really is the posthuman society.
And another thing I want to point out is they're
supposedly racing around the world for minerals, you know, so

(02:12:38):
that they can get these rarer magnets or whatever the hell.
But if that was really a problem, why wouldn't they
start banning all non essential use of chips in everything.
It's like all the chips in our appliances. I do

(02:13:00):
not want a chip in my washing machine or my
dryer or my refrigerator. So why don't they start banning
the use of chips in all non essential equipment.

Speaker 12 (02:13:15):
Yeah, Well, of course they're not going to.

Speaker 14 (02:13:17):
Do that because the whole thing is just bs.

Speaker 12 (02:13:21):
Well, a lot of the you know, there's there's people
that probably like all that fancy stuff. You know, people
want they want their refrigerator to tell them they're out
of milk and order it for them.

Speaker 14 (02:13:31):
If they're that stupid, you know, just get get the
heck out, do the.

Speaker 12 (02:13:36):
Best they can to make it where people love their servitude.
That that's that's really what it's about. Well, embrace the servitude.

Speaker 14 (02:13:44):
And break it fashionable to be stupid.

Speaker 12 (02:13:46):
Embrace your smart chains. There you go. Anyway, h color
on the line. I think this is art and Georgia back.
Got to be quick, but Art, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (02:14:00):
Yeah. I normally don't call in twice, but Vicky was
talking about she couldn't find the law talking about communism,
and I just did a real quick search. It's not
hard to find its Public Law six thirty seven, known
as the Communist Control Act of nineteen fifty four, to

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outlaw the Communist Party, to prohibit members of communist organizations
from serving in certain representative capacities and for other purposes.
And just the first sentence here it says clearly the
Congress here by fines and declares that the Communist Party
of the United States, although purportedly a political party is

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in fact an instrumentality of a conspiracy to overthrow the
government of the United States.

Speaker 12 (02:14:51):
There you go, that's clear.

Speaker 13 (02:14:54):
So I will drop that link in the chat room.
If you guys want to include it in.

Speaker 12 (02:14:58):
I would love it.

Speaker 14 (02:14:59):
Be appreciate that I was looking in the avalon, you know,
looking through the titles of law, and so I really
appreciate that, and I will look it up.

Speaker 12 (02:15:10):
Eric, Yep, we'll have to put that in the show notes.

Speaker 13 (02:15:12):
I just dropped in the chat all right.

Speaker 12 (02:15:14):
Very good, Thank you, Thank you, appreciate that. God bless
your art, you too, Bye bye. All right, we're almost
up to the break already, lots more to cover, but
we have coming up at the bottom of the hour.
Wayne White. Wayne White is uh, he spent really a
lifetime observing the treachery of communists around the world. He's

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written two books, The Decline of America, The Rise of Communism,
and his latest is One World Government Threat or Solution.
And so I think those two dovetail very well because
certainly the One World Plan is a communist plan, and
I know that Vicky would agree with that.

Speaker 14 (02:15:54):
Summation question about it.

Speaker 12 (02:15:56):
Yeah, yeah, So we're gonna be talking with him here
in a moment. There's a lot going on. I just
saw that the majority of momp's cases are among the vaccinated,
according to the CDC. You know, we we've heard over
and over again, Oh vaccination, you got to get your
you got get your shot. You know, all of this

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goes right in the line with Agenda twenty one United
Nations Blueprint for Sustainable Development. And that's a big part
of the whole globalist agenda, depopulation and control of the
population that still exists.

Speaker 14 (02:16:30):
Yeah, and the other half of that, besides the environment,
is public health.

Speaker 12 (02:16:36):
There you go, So keep that in.

Speaker 14 (02:16:38):
Mind, you know, environment and public health and total control,
total tyranny.

Speaker 12 (02:16:44):
Yep, yep, exactly. All right, let's take the bottom of
the hour break, We'll get Wayne White on the line,
and we'll come back here at a moment with the
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Speaker 12 (02:21:29):
Welcome back to the broadcast final half hour of the show. Uh.
Joining us now on the line is Wayne White. Wayne
has spent a lifetime, as I said last hour, observing
the treachery of communism around the world. He's an author, historian,
and keynote speaker who has spoken to conservative groups wondering
about the infiltration of communists into every aspect of American life.

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His lady spoke is one world government threat or a solution.
It's a wake up call for all Americans who care
about their liberty, and that should be everybody. He has
also written The Decline of America The Rise of Communism,
which is a must read to anyone who wants our
country restored and freedom preserved. He's joining us today on
Governor America. Hey, Wayne, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 25 (02:22:13):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (02:22:14):
I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 12 (02:22:16):
Yeah, yeah, good to have you and Vickius here as well.
She's my co host here, so she'll jump in anytime
she wants to as well. You know, right now, we
got the all these I almost started the show off
by joking that I don't want to keep it too
long because I'm sure you're getting ready of ready for
all the no King protests. I'm sure you're going to

(02:22:37):
be settling up and attending. We got all these different
protest groups going on all over the place, you know,
at the twenty twenty I'll.

Speaker 25 (02:22:47):
Tell you, yeah, go ahead, yeah, Darren, I got I've
got the contract for the signs, so I'm making money
over it, a true capitalist. Huh yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:23:00):
So I guess let's start at the beginning. We were
going to talk about the government shutdown. Let's do that
is the government shutdown. Do you think that that's another
symptom of a nation that's basically ceasing to operate, function,
to function properly? And if so, how long can our
nation continue with this type of dysfunction.

Speaker 25 (02:23:24):
Well, it's just another tactic that we should be used to.
The only thing that's happened. You know, a lot of
people think what we're witnessing all came about in the
last ten or twenty years. It's my first book points
out we've been suffering for this since the nineteen hundreds,
and communism has grown and grown and taken over back

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in the forties, the almost every entertainment. And you know,
one of my favorite sayings is is every who controls
the input controls the output. And I'll give you a
good example. If you go online right now and pull
up most everything tells the opposite story of what's really happening.

(02:24:07):
As far as the shutdown, I've had something just said, Oh,
the Republicans are totally lying about that it's for health care.
Yet you know they just get away with that, and
that has been their method of operation. It's just gotten.
They are so bold because they control so much. And
I will tell you this, I didn't I'm eighty three

(02:24:30):
years old and I didn't have a whole lot of
hope for the country when I wrote my first book.
And then along came you know, Charlie Kirk, and now
we are seeing a revival. And I'm not sure the
Good Lord didn't send him, unfortunately as a sacrifice to
wake us up. Because my book I'm working on right now,

(02:24:55):
and it's my last book, is called The Blue Book
of Democrats, and what what it's about is letting young
people know who the Democrats are. I don't think they know.
If they knew, they would be calling Republicans races. They
wouldn't be calling Republicans Nazis. You know, they just don't

(02:25:17):
know because they haven't been taught and nobody's explained that.
But you're right, if things don't change, one of the
things must brought up. And one of the things I
preached about is we can't ignore what is now at
thirty eight trillion dollar deficit. And when you hear the

(02:25:38):
Poles say, oh, we're not going to lower interest, well,
why the heck would he They're the ones that are
getting the interest of billion dollars a day, you know,
is the central government, So why do they want a
lower interest trade? They don't necessarily care about the economy.
They don't want it to go broke because then they'd
be in trouble. But as far as lowering it, they're

(02:25:59):
making Yeah, exactly, something's got to change.

Speaker 12 (02:26:03):
Yeah. Both both Marx and Lenin both believe that socialism
would lead to communism, but as you point out in
your book Decline of America, Lenin believed communism had to
be achieved by violent revolution, where Marx believe that capitalism
would transform into socialism and that would naturally grow into
communism over time. Is the latter process. Do you think

(02:26:23):
that that's what we're seeing playing out with this federal
fiscal crisis.

Speaker 25 (02:26:30):
Well, what you really have happening. I like to say
Marxism is an ideology. Communism is the implementation of that ideology.
And what you're seeing now is kind of the crossroads
where you're going from the ideology to what Lenin said,
and that is the violence, and the violence is only

(02:26:50):
going to get worse. And I'll tell you an interesting thing.
I was just out of boredom yesterday. I was going
back to the revolution in Venezuela and Hugo Charves and
listening to the translations of some of the things that
said and some of the things that happened down there,
and I thought, you know, if I closed my eyes

(02:27:11):
and just listened to the translations, I think I was
in America. And that's what you're seeing happening. Is these
kids have no idea. You know, I often say, forgive
them Lord, whether they know not what they do, because
they don't, because believe me, it's not going to be
the pantasa they think it is. It never is right.

(02:27:32):
And you could go to Cuba. I'll tell you an
interesting thing. You can do and then I'll shut up.

Speaker 12 (02:27:37):
Well that's right.

Speaker 25 (02:27:38):
Google Havana Harbor in the early fifties, and then google
it today. It looks like it got hit by a bomb. Harbor,
no ships, no work, it's the buildings. You're falling down.
It's terrible and they don't have any idea.

Speaker 12 (02:27:57):
Yeah, are you familiar with the book by han Kozak
called and Not a Shot Is Fired? Have you ever
heard of that?

Speaker 25 (02:28:05):
Not off the top of my head?

Speaker 12 (02:28:07):
Okay, what he does, it's basically a manifesto of of
from when Czechoslovakia had their revolution and they went they
went communist. It's his describing exactly how they did it.
When you go you go ahead look at that translation,
uh into English, and you read what he says, all

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of the all of the points, everything he does, everything
he describes in that book is exactly what's happening in
America today.

Speaker 21 (02:28:36):
It is.

Speaker 12 (02:28:36):
It is just really uncanny and frightening too. I mean,
right from the popular movements, the slogans, the protests, all
of the all the groups and organizations uh that that
that they were doing back then, and you can clearly
see it today with Black Lives Matter and Antifa. You know,
and now today the no King's protest. You know, we

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shouldn't want to king, you know. But that's not the point.
That's not really why they're out there is it's to
delegitimize the United States of America.

Speaker 25 (02:29:09):
Well and demoralize it.

Speaker 14 (02:29:11):
Again.

Speaker 25 (02:29:12):
Another great example of what's going on, I don't know,
I covered it in the first chapter of my book
is in nineteen sixty four, higher Congressman for this area,
for the area I live in here in Florida, introduced
the forty five Goals of Communism unanimously into Congress Congressional records.

Speaker 12 (02:29:39):
Yeah it is Cleon Skelsen, wasn't it.

Speaker 25 (02:29:41):
Because yeah, that came from his book. Yeah yeah. But
if you go down the list, the first couple of
things that five or six had to do with Russia,
because don't forget up. Until Nixon opened up China, China
was a third World country. I mean, they had just
got their fannies kicked by Japan, which is what twenty

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five times smaller than they are they are, you know,
they were one twenty fifth of the size of China
back then, and so forget that. But if you go
down after the Russia thing, almost everything they've done has
been accomplished. You know, just go down the list and

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you'll see almost everything has been accomplished. From tearing down statues,
demoralizing the country, you know, defaming the founding fathers, discouraging parents,
involvement in their children, everything on there, taking over one

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of the political parties, taking over the news media. It's
all there. So we were given a blueprint as far
back as nineteen sixty three or four, I.

Speaker 12 (02:30:53):
Forget, I think it was sixty three, Yeah, sixty three.

Speaker 25 (02:30:58):
And when you're eighty three, have any anyway, But you know,
I mean so I blame my group, my age group,
for a lot of what's going on because we ignored it.
We put our heads in the sand and and just
totally ignored it.

Speaker 12 (02:31:16):
Well, in your defense, I'll just have to say that
we weren't. You weren't living in the information age that
we are today. And unfortunately, people, the American people, really
have trusted the sources of information, you know, not. You know,
coming up in a free country, you tend to take

(02:31:36):
for granted, uh and the the system of government that
you have, and you you tend to project onto these
politicians and the officials, as you know, the benevolence that
you and you inhabit, and so consequently, Uh, I think
people just believed a lot and took it for granted

(02:31:58):
that they were being told the truth by the newspapers,
by the talking heads on the radio, and then later
the TV, you know, and it got to the point
where it wasn't until much much later that people started
asking questions and finding out, you know, a lot of
the deception that was taking place, you know, going back,

(02:32:19):
go ahead, VICKI I was.

Speaker 14 (02:32:21):
Gonna say, well, I guess I'm an example of baby
boomer who was totally deaf, dumb, and blind to what
was going on in the world stage. I didn't know
that Gorbachop was invited to come over and set up
shop in San Francisco at the Presidio no less, and

(02:32:47):
to be engaged in our military base closings. So, I mean,
they did all this stuff, but the news media, I
don't believe they covered it, you know, where they were
telling people what was.

Speaker 12 (02:33:04):
Really going on, what it really meant. Yeah, right, what
do you what do you think of that? I mean,
what you feel like the uh, we were kind of
played there a little bit by the fall of the
so called Fall of the Soviet.

Speaker 14 (02:33:17):
Union, absolutely, and I think it was a staged event.

Speaker 25 (02:33:21):
What do you think, ween, Well, I think you can
go back further than that. I don't think most people
know that Nao was in Harvard, invited over by the
Rockefellas to Harvard, and when he got there, he took
over the Harvard Paper and of course put out Communist propaganda. So,

(02:33:44):
like I say, it goes way back. But like I
say that, the difference is the Communist understood something that
even today we don't quite understand, and that is every
who controls the input controls the outcome. I don't think
I ever met a Moslem mother holding her six month
old baby who said to him, I hope you go

(02:34:06):
up and blow yourself up. It's input that they get
when they're very young, for years and years and years,
and the funny thing is that people tell them to
blow themselves up because they're going to have this great
life afterwards, are in their sixties and seventies. I've never
if I was fixing, if somebody told me to do that,
I'd go, wait a minute, why aren't you out there.

(02:34:29):
So it's the input, and they have controlled it. They understood,
they got into Hollywood in the thirties in the forties,
if you go, well, I don't know how old either
one of y'all are, But in the forties, Hollywood in
the thirties and forties was very anti communists. In fact,
the House and American Activities we're familiar with it because

(02:34:52):
of McCarthy, but it actually started before he was ever
a senator. It started in the late thirties and back
in those days movies. I remember one movie that was
our TV show, which was I Led Three Lives. It
was about an FBI agent who also had a business

(02:35:13):
as a front and he was also a member of
the Communist Party. And they had movies like that that
were very anti communists. And what did the Communists do.
They said, wait a minute, we got to get involved,
and they did. And Ronald Reagan, when he was President
of the Screen Actors Guil, testified before the House of

(02:35:33):
American Activities and said, look, they're just they are really
attacking our people and trying to get them involved. And
so they understood that you've got to control the input.
And that's why they got in the schools here. Again,
I don't think most teachers even though that the federal Teachers.
The National Federation of Teachers was founded in eighteen fifty

(02:35:56):
seven by a Marxist and it's the largest educational organization
in the world, so it's not just in America. So
they understood you've got to be in control of the input.

Speaker 14 (02:36:12):
Yeah, the narrative.

Speaker 27 (02:36:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:36:15):
Something that I've noticed is that I look for patterns,
and there has to be a book of scenarios to
create certain changes. And I think they keep repeating these dialectics.

(02:36:39):
That's what it is. They're dialectics. And they've been doing
this in our country since I don't I don't know when,
but I called a radio program one day and I
because he was repeating the story that I heard that
had occurred over in another country. And I called and

(02:37:01):
I said, this is a repeat narrative. And I said
that to the screener, and the screener hung up on me.
Wouldn't let me on the radio.

Speaker 25 (02:37:18):
Yeah, that's the censorship, you know. When I was young,
you know.

Speaker 32 (02:37:23):
I guess I'm kind of an unusual youngster because when
I was thirteen, I read the Communist Manifesto and I
used to argue with even adults about communism. One of
the things they told me, is that reason communists Because I'd.

Speaker 25 (02:37:36):
Say, why isn't it working? You know, this is back
when Russia and China, like I say, was a third
world country. But I said, why isn't it working. Why
can't you show this great shining place on the hill
that's successful. And they said, well, it isn't going to
work until every you know, the world is communist. Oh,

(02:38:00):
I get it. You mean, if there's nothing to compare
it to works, and that's what they operate on.

Speaker 12 (02:38:07):
Yeah, you're not doing it enough.

Speaker 25 (02:38:08):
There's nothing for you to compare it.

Speaker 12 (02:38:10):
Yeah, failure after failure after failure, and you're just not
doing it enough. So you've got to keep on going. Yeah. Uh,
you know. So I think it seems to me that
most the most significant accomplishment of the communists in America
has been the capture of key institutions, you know, probably
the greatest of which i'd say the capture of the

(02:38:31):
mainstream media, but also the capture of academia. It seems
like the establishment media enables them spread, you know, to
keep hammering their propaganda to the minds of people of
all ages every day, but academia poisons the minds of
the next generation with the communist ideology. What do you

(02:38:51):
think of all of this. If they capture a single
you know, the next generation, they pretty much have everybody,
don't they. Maybe that's why they had to kill Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 14 (02:39:01):
Oh, I think so absolutely.

Speaker 25 (02:39:04):
Yeah, yeah, Reagan. Remember what Reagan said. He said it
only takes one generation to lose a country, and we
were getting very close to that until Charlie Kirk came
along with turning point. And you're right. You know, first
of all, I want to say something and I think

(02:39:27):
I could be right, and that is freedom of the speech.
When they came out with the Supreme Court and said
you have freedom of speech, but you can't yell fire
in a crowded theater. The reason for that is if
you yell fire in a crowded theater, people will stampede
and somebody will get hurt. Well, what's the difference if

(02:39:48):
you put out dialogue that's a lie about somebody to
the point where they go out and kill them, those
people do not have the right to do that. Freedom
of this speech does not give you the right to
put out poisoned pins to the point of people doing

(02:40:08):
harmed other people, or to masses and you're seeing that
with mass shootings at churches and the killing of important people.
That's not freedom of speech, and those people ought to
be arrested. And peaceful demonstrations does not mean throwing water
bottles that are frozen at police, or shooting fireworks at them,

(02:40:30):
or hitting them with a car. That is not covered
under peaceful demonstrations. Too tolerant, and yet it's allowed. I
think that's well. But I think on the other hand,
that's part of the strategy because if the government goes
after them too hard, then they say, you're a dictator.

(02:40:53):
So they know how to push the buttons that are
hard to answer, even know they need to be answered
because there again, that's what happened in Venezuela, except they
had a bad government. Once the government cracked down on them,
that gave them the impetus to say, we've got to
change this government because they're they're arresting people, they're whatever.

(02:41:17):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:41:18):
Yeah, I think the biggest concern that I have is
and I know that I fall into it. A lot
of people who are good patriots fall into it. We
see all of the problems in America, and we have
a tendency to talk America down, and I think we
really need to rethink that. I mean, it's okay to
outline the problems that we have in our country, but
at the same time we need to I think, sometimes

(02:41:40):
balance that out with the best because what I see
happening as young people the next generations, they don't understand
they've never been to another country. Many of them I
never had to certainly live under the regime, the tutalitarian,
authoritarian rule of these other countries, and so they don't

(02:42:00):
understand how bad other nations have it. We have something
special here in America and it needs to be defended,
and I think that we have to balance out sometimes
our rhetoric and and talk America up even as we
outline some of the problems here, because people need to
understand we have something special that needs to be defended.

Speaker 25 (02:42:21):
What do you think, Well, absolutely, but that is where
they beat us. Because we need to keep communism totally
out of the school. We need to get rid of
any teacher that isn't teaching Americanism. I mean, when you
have classrooms with pictures of communist leaders in the classroom,

(02:42:44):
you're not going to win. Right, this is a great
country and there's no country no country on this planet
that has spilled more blood or given up more treasure
to help other people than the United States. And that's
what the kids need to learn, and they need to
learn what a great country this is. You know, we've

(02:43:06):
only been around two hundred and fifty years. We're competing
with countries that have been around for thousands of years,
and we're beating them.

Speaker 12 (02:43:15):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 14 (02:43:16):
You know what they did in the schools is that
they changed from a defined curriculum to standards, allowing the
teachers in the school districts to choose the material to
meet the standard. And that was a gigantic mistake. We

(02:43:39):
should protect the children, you know, at least through the
primary education and define what they should learn in the
way of math and reading, in English and social studies.
But we don't do that. We have a set of
standards and they allow the teachers and the local school

(02:44:03):
board to decide what will be taught. And I really
think that that's what's ruined our schools and it allowed
teachers to propagandize children.

Speaker 12 (02:44:17):
Yeah, well, Wayne, we're almost out of time. You're going
to have to come back. We're visiting ladies and gentlemen
with Wayne White. He is the author of the Decline
of America, The Rise of Communism and his latest One
World Government Threat or Solution. I'll put links in the
show notes to both books. You can, I think get
them both on Amazon dot Com and probably other places

(02:44:40):
as well. But I really appreciate you coming here. It's
been a very great discussion. Do you have anything else
real quickly that you wanted to say?

Speaker 25 (02:44:50):
No, I just appreciate being on with you and Vickie
at any time you'd like me. I enjoy talking with
you guys. You're doing a great job. Keep it up,
and you know, I'm happy to talk with you guys anytime.
You're great people, and I've enjoyed it.

Speaker 12 (02:45:06):
All right, Hey, thank you so much. God bless you
once again, folks. The Decline of America, The Rise of
Communism or One World Government Threat or Solution. Both of
those are available. We'll put the link up in the
show notes. Hey, thank you, Wayne White. God bless you, sir,
and I hope you continue on and good luck on
your forthcoming book. Yes, thank you very much, Ye blessings.

(02:45:30):
All right, folks, we're just about out of time. We
hope you'll join us back here next week, same time,
same outlet. In the meantime, pray for this republic, do
what you can to restore it. God bless each and
every one of you, and we'll talk to you soon. Hey,
thanks Vicky, thank you. All right, we'll talk soon, folks.

Speaker 14 (02:45:48):
Great program today.

Speaker 12 (02:45:49):
Yeah I think so.

Speaker 35 (02:45:51):
Blessings the True God.

Speaker 12 (02:46:27):
The rat Race about a.

Speaker 14 (02:46:35):
Shop Cob

Speaker 12 (02:46:40):
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