Govern America | October 4, 2025 | A Data-Cleansing Revolution - Govern America

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We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new world.

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Order, new world order, new world order.

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This is a moment to cease. The kaleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around us.

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A new world order, a world where the.

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United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of
its founders.

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Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape this
so that the problem of the pot prends identity will
be the emergence of a new international order the.

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First decade of the twenty first century.

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But out of what is will be seen as the
greatest restructuring of the global economy, greatest restructuring of the
global economy, greatest restructuring.

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Of the global economy, a new world order was created.

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Documenting the graces of our rebelty.

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The very word secret repugnant in a free and open society,
and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed
to secret societies. The secret Oath and a secret proceedings.

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Waging war on the new world order.

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The councils of government we must guard again the acquisition
of unwarranted influence, whether it's sought or unsought by the
military industrial conflict.

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This is Governor America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 12 (01:40):
From FEMA Regions five and ten. This is Governor America.
I'm during week's Vicky Davis is here as well. It
is the fourth of October twenty twenty five, and it's
nice to have you with us once again, ladies and gentlemen.
There's a lot going on and we're going to dive
into as much of it as possible. Good morning, VICKI,
Good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:57):
Hey.

Speaker 12 (01:57):
You sounded nice and clear.

Speaker 14 (02:00):
Yeah, so are you.

Speaker 12 (02:01):
Yeah. I've been doing some work on the stream, by
the way, ladies and gentlemen. I'll be interested to hear
from people as to how the stream sounds, because I'm
doing some tweaking on the kind of the processing of
it and also the equalization of it where I went
with a new service, So that's you know, that's something
that needs to be kind of perfected. The hope is

(02:24):
that we can make it a little more dependable or
a lot more dependable, because I think I've figured out
where the problem really lies. In terms of the problem
some of the problems we've been having with our stream
so anyway, so just to kind of give people that
kind of heads up, these things may sound a little
differently today, hopefully better, but if not, we'll we'll fix it.

(02:46):
This is a definite work in progress anyway. Lots going
on about the government shut down. Everybody's going to be
crying and moaning, and there's going to be weeping and
wailing and gnashing of teeth and you know, but that's
just the media and that's just the politicians. Most of
us here in the real world outside of DC, we'll

(03:09):
never even notice that there's a problem.

Speaker 14 (03:13):
Yeah, I haven't. For all the other times that they've
shut down government for a brief period of time, I
never noticed anything different at all.

Speaker 12 (03:23):
Yeah, nothing really ever, really changes. I'll get to a
little bit more on the funding thing here in just
a moment, but I wanted to start the show off.
There is an example of just how government wastes money
all the time, and it doesn't even have to be
at the federal level. It's at the state level. We
just narrowly averted our own government shut down here in

(03:45):
the state of Michigan, and the Republicans, you know, managed
to get one chamber of the legislature, and so there
was gridlock for the longest time, and they insisted upon
having some cuts in the budget. It really wasn't that
nearly enough cuts in my opinion, but they did succeed

(04:08):
in getting some, and you know, the Democrats anyway, they
ended up passing a budget that was a compromise. Okay, fine,
they raised marijuana, you know, cannabis tax like twenty four
percent to do it. So that's not good for the
people who use cannabis. I'm not a consumer of that,
so it's not going to affect me, but it's going

(04:32):
to shut down what is actually a nacent industry here
in Michigan. Yeah, and in cannabis, here's a thing. There's
a lot of people that use cannabis for medicinal purposes
and for those people, they're going to be hurt. You know.
Not all cannabis use is recreational. So some people use

(04:53):
it like epileptics use it to try to manage their seizures.
There's other people use it as painkillers that sort of thing,
for legitimate medicinal purposes. And that's really what started as
a kind of a shoehorn issue in toward legalization. But anyway,
I don't mean to go down that bunny trail. I'm
just kind of doing that for clarifications sake. But in Austin, Texas,

(05:17):
there is absolutely no excuse for what they've done with
the American You know, the people of Austin, people of
that city, their money. It's they spent a gob and
a bunch of money, over a million dollars on just
developing a logo for this city.

Speaker 15 (05:37):
Has in Vegas stays in Vegas. I love New York.
Cities and towns all across the country have branding and slogans,
but why.

Speaker 16 (05:49):
I love New York.

Speaker 15 (05:55):
Two of the most famous slogans in the country. While
some branding has gone well, like New York and Vegas,
it doesn't always work out that way. Take Austin, Texas,
where officials recently unveiled a new logo. The local CBS
affiliate posted the logo on Instagram and comments came in hot.
Most of them were negative, and the majority had the
one point one million dollar price tag in mind. Come on, ATX,

(06:15):
spend our taxpayers money right, one comment read. Another read,
this is a waste of taxpayer money.

Speaker 17 (06:21):
A logo is a really tiny, tiny part of a brand,
and if a logo works, it will connect to the brand,
so it'll be a visual A much more important concept
for a brand is a visual symbol like the Sydney
Opera House or the Statue of Liberty or something, or
the Trans America building, So a visual imagery can be

(06:44):
really important. I would have spent a lot of time
worrying about the logo.

Speaker 15 (06:47):
A representative from the City of Austin put a positive
spin on the rebrand, saying, quote, we deliberately chose a
mark that reminded us of movement, to reflect how welcoming, flexible,
and resilient this community and our employees are. Well that
and didn't go well overall. There are many reasons why
cities seek brand identity.

Speaker 17 (07:04):
It's a thought that differentiates the city, that ideally provides
a secret sauce.

Speaker 12 (07:11):
Okay, I'm wann to dump out of that because I
don't really care about branding. And the point is, you
spend one point one million dollars of taxpayers money developing
a logo, developing something that frankly I could have produced,
probably either by AI or very quickly in photoshop. Give

(07:31):
me the million dollars develop you a logo, I could
you know that thing better be made of gold by
the time you're getting done. If you're giving a million
dollars for it, that's nice.

Speaker 14 (07:43):
Well, the story more important than the logo is the
story behind the story, which is that they've basically turned
our cities into commercial representatives, true, you know, in the

(08:06):
global economy, which means that they are no longer cities
and places for Americans to live and work. They are
global marketers.

Speaker 12 (08:18):
My understanding, and I don't live in Austin, Texas, but
my understanding from listening to the folks who do, is
Austin Texas has has received an influx of a lot
of people fleeing California, and a lot of these people
now since the same mindset you can flee California, But
if you're bringing the same mindset that turn California into

(08:41):
California into what you're fleeing, then you're going to turn
whatever place that you take up residency into the same
thing you just tried to leave. And it sounds like
that's exactly what's happening with Austin, Texas. And as a result,
you've got my understand again, I'm not an expert on Austin, Texas.

(09:02):
I don't live there, but my understanding from listening to
the people who do is that they have a rising
level of homelessness and the same types I'm sorry, people
experiencing homelessness, the same type of situation going on there
that you know, Los Angeles is now become a cesspool for.

Speaker 14 (09:24):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (09:26):
Well, you know, you've got to spread the fertilizer everywhere
for the destruction of the country. They've been doing that
to Idaho. Californians have been moving to Idaho and the
Western states, you know, for decades, and with every almost
every California family that moves up here, it's destruction of

(09:50):
Idaho as a rural western state.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (09:55):
As I said, everyone's attentions on the government shutdown this week,
and you know, this is all pretty much largely theatrics,
but it is interesting to hear some of the talk
about some of the proposals and some of the things
that have been removed from the so called budget. And
again I have a problem with calling it a budget

(10:16):
because really they don't stay within any kind of definable
you know, when you have a budget, VICKI, you understand
that this these are the limits of what you can spend.
That's a budget. What we have on the federal level
is our spending bills, and there really is no I mean, yeah,
they say that there's a debt ceiling. They keep raising

(10:39):
the debt ceiling, so it's really not a ceiling when
they raise it all the time. And so I mean, really,
there are no limits to federal spending. And when you
have no limits to federal spending, you can put all
sorts of pork programs in there, including things that are
just absolutely nuts and insane. And so Senator Kennedy, John

(11:02):
Kennedy was on the floor and he was talking about
some of the things that Republicans removed from the budget
and the Democrats are upset about.

Speaker 18 (11:09):
Basically, President Trump just said, we want you to take
some stuff out of the budget that we think is wasteful,
and we did, and that upset the Commerce woman. She's
entitled to be upset, she wants to, but that really
upset the socialist wing of the party. And so we
took out and here's what they want us to put

(11:29):
back in. We found that on the President Biden they
were spending three million dollars for circumcisions and the sectomies
in Zambia, we put that, took that.

Speaker 12 (11:43):
Out now, Now, don't you think that the people of
Zambia are entitled to their circumcisions, Vicky, isn't this something.

Speaker 14 (11:53):
Yeah, on their own dime. But you know, under between
the line in this whole debate has to do with
the reorganization of our country and with the global systems

(12:13):
that were designed and developed. And Maryland is one of
the states that is hurting the most because that's where
the centers for medicaid Medicare are, Okay, which has to
do of course with the global insurance system, which is

(12:37):
what Obamacare was. All of it has to do with
the dismantling of the globalization of our government, even though
the politicians never talk about it. They never talked about
what was done to our government during the Clinton administration,

(13:01):
the Bush administration, and then the Obama administration. I mean,
we're like thirty years down the road of the globalization
of our government. Yeah, and it continues, yeah, with the
American taxpayers footing the bill for all of it.

Speaker 12 (13:23):
And it continued under the Trump administration too. I mean,
let's be fair on that. Now, some of it and
somebody might push back and well, how can you see
that weeks because he pulled us out of the UN,
and he pulled us out of the Paris Agreement. Yes,
he did do some of those things, but he also
signed the US He pushed the USMCA, he pushed the

(13:44):
NAFTA replacement, and that is something I have a big
problem with. He pushed Canada being the fifty first state,
which is exactly in line with what Bush was promoting,
the North American Union, the Union of the America right, and.

Speaker 14 (13:58):
He talked about green law, Yeah, you know, bringing Greenland
in right, so that they have a full continental governing structure.
I believe they call it a condominium governing structure over
the top of the entire continent, which any governing authorities

(14:21):
sitting over the top of our country's government is by
definition treason and subversion of American sovereignty.

Speaker 12 (14:32):
I wonder if that's part of the reason why we
have military troops being positioned right now to overthrow Venezuela.
I mean, I understand we don't want communists China having
control of Latin America, But at the same time, I mean,
how are we going to Are we going to now
do regime change in the Latin American countries to kind

(14:54):
of get back control of our own hemisphere.

Speaker 14 (14:57):
They've been doing that. They've been doing that since I
was in grade school. That's when they first came up
with the Latin American Policy and that was Kennedy's Alliance
for Progress.

Speaker 12 (15:16):
Yeah, let me finish up here with speaking of Kennedy,
John Kennedy talking about the waste.

Speaker 18 (15:22):
The congresswoman says, we're going to shut down government till.

Speaker 12 (15:24):
You put that back.

Speaker 18 (15:25):
Here we found five hundred thousand dollars of American taxpayer
money for electric buses in Rwanda. We found three point
six million dollars for pastry cooking classes and dance focus
groups for male prostitutes in Haiti.

Speaker 12 (15:45):
Well, listen, Haitian male prostitutes have to eat too, kid,
you not.

Speaker 19 (15:49):
I'm not making the soap.

Speaker 18 (15:50):
It wasent in the budget on the President Biden.

Speaker 9 (15:55):
We took it out.

Speaker 18 (15:56):
Congresswoman of Case Show Cortes in the socialist wing, the
Moon wing of the Democratic Party says we're going to
shut down govern until you put it back in. I'll
just read you a few more that we took out.
They're demanding we put back in six million dollars for
media organizations for the Palestinians. Eight hundred and thirty three thousand.

Speaker 12 (16:16):
Dollars that would that would be called propaganda media organizations
for Palestinians.

Speaker 18 (16:24):
Eight hundred and thirty three thousand dollars for transgender people
in Nepall. Three hundred thousand dollars for a pride parade
in Masuitu. Eight hundred and eighty two thousand dollars for
social media and mentorship in Serbia four point two million dollars.

Speaker 12 (16:41):
We took it out. What is social media mentorship? Is
this to teach people how to use social media?

Speaker 14 (16:49):
Yeah, that's what I would say.

Speaker 12 (16:52):
Weird.

Speaker 18 (16:52):
Four point two million dollars. We took it out. The
congresswoman and the socialist wing of their party says, we've
got to put back hand for that Opeen government. Four
point two million dollars from lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer
and intersex people in the Western Balkans and Uganda. I

(17:14):
could spend the rest.

Speaker 12 (17:15):
How many of these people actually exist? That's you know
what I really think.

Speaker 16 (17:19):
I mean?

Speaker 12 (17:21):
Are there are there intersects and queer and all these
different groups? How many of these actually exist in Africa,
maybe one or two. You know, what this really looks
like to me, what it sounds like to me is
money laundering. These are excuses to launder money.

Speaker 14 (17:39):
I would agree with you, Yes, these.

Speaker 12 (17:42):
Are total This is all money laundering. And it's a rampant,
rampant throughout federal and state government and probably a local
government as well. Right now, we have I think I
talked about it before, Faye Bae done under investigation by
the Attorney General of the state, who herself a total scumbag,

(18:02):
and the Bay Dune. You know, she's the one that
took money from this grant from this Economic Development Corporation
here in Michigan and which gets grants, and she spent
forty five hundred dollars on a coffee maker and flight
for herself to different places. I don't remember all the details.

(18:22):
I'd have to dig back into it again. But she's
supposedly under investigation for this now, which I'd be very
surprised if it ever even goes anywhere, because Dana Nessel
has not ever gone after a Democrat before. She's always
gone after Republicans, never a Democrat. And Faye Beae Dune
is a close associate of governor Gretchen Whitmer. But you

(18:47):
know Nessel is wanting to run for governor, so maybe
this is her look good move to convince everybody that
she's governor material. She's not full in me, I can
tell you that right now. But money laundering operations go
on all across at every level of government. They're stealing

(19:07):
our money and taxing us till our eyes bleed.

Speaker 18 (19:09):
I could spend the rest of the afternoon here, we
took all that out. It upset Congresswoman Ocasio court Is.
It upsets the socialist wing of her party, and now
that wing of her party and the congress woman are
threatening all other Democrats and saying, you've got to shut
down government downtaill we get what we want, and part
of what they want is to add this kind of

(19:32):
stuff back into the bill. And that's what this fight
is all about.

Speaker 12 (19:38):
So Trump is called the situation an opportunity.

Speaker 20 (19:40):
The Lighthouse is now warning that mass layoffs of federal
workers are imminent as the government shutdown drives on for
a second day with no end insight.

Speaker 21 (19:48):
President Trump is calling this an unprecedented opportunity. He's urging
Republicans in Congress to use the shutdown to quote, clear
out dead wood and make cuts to the government.

Speaker 22 (19:57):
Well, there could be firings, and that's therefore, and it
could also be other things. I mean, we could cut
projects that they wanted, favorite projects, and they'd be permanently cut.
So you could say a lot of people are saying
Trump wanted this, that I wanted this close and I
didn't want it. But a lot of people are saying
it because I'm allowed to cut things that should have

(20:18):
never been approved in the first place.

Speaker 23 (20:20):
We are expecting these layoffs to be pretty significant. The
White House Press Secretary said this morning she's expecting that
number to be in the thousands, and Trump's budget directors
that on a conference call yesterday with House Republicans that
those notices are going to start to go out as
early as today, potentially tomorrow. As far as which projects
could be on the chopping block, it's clear that the
administration is targeting projects in blue states at least so far,

(20:43):
including a pair of really critical infrastruction projects in New York. Now,
to be clear here, the Executive Branch does have the
authority to determine what's essential and non essential, but there's
nothing in the law that these firings have to be permanent.
Speaker Mike Johnson was asked if he's comfortable with the
prospect of mass firings in the federal workforce. Here's what
he had to say.

Speaker 24 (21:02):
The President takes no pleasure in this. The President did
not want to shut down. I'm telling you this from
my own testimony. I was in the Oval Office. He
pleaded with Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries to do the
right thing, keep the government open. We'll talk about all
these other issues later, because that's how the process works.
When Congress turns off the funding and the funding runs out,
it is up to the commander in chief, the President

(21:24):
of the United States, to determine how those resources will
be spent.

Speaker 23 (21:28):
Shutdowns, of course, are always painful, and the federal resource
is already pretty demoralized after the DOGE cuts earlier this year.
But now the stake's clearly even higher.

Speaker 12 (21:36):
All right, So yeah, it was so painful. Yeah, Nobody,
nobody other than the people inside Washington, d C. And
the media even notice anything different. You know, is anybody
out there being impacted by this at all at all?
I doubt it. You might go to a national park

(21:58):
and the National Park might be close, Okay, whatever. And
I heard a talk show host the other day though,
I mean, Trump is saying he's going to go through
and slash this and cut that. And there was a
talk show host I was listening to on my way
on the highway when I was traveling, and he said
he's going to lay off in tired departments. He's gonna

(22:20):
slash the Education Department completely, eliminate it, eliminate the irs.
None of that's going to happen. I mean, there's no
way these layoffs are going to be permanent. I doubt
a single one of them is going to be permanent.

Speaker 14 (22:32):
Well, they've been gradually moving the Department of Education to
the Department of Labor, which I really upsets me now
that they should have cut the federal fed ed. Why
we never should it never should have been authorized to

(22:53):
begin with. Our states should handle our primary school well,
you know the system for our primary grades. You know,
they only created the Department of Education under the Carter administration.
I think it was right.

Speaker 12 (23:12):
And then Reagan promised to get rid of it and
he failed to do so, and you know, the beat
goes on. We're stuck with it. It's just like Reagan said,
to quote Reagan, nothing is closer to eternal life on
Earth than the government agency.

Speaker 14 (23:28):
Yeah, so true, so true.

Speaker 12 (23:31):
But why now, I want to go back to what
you said a moment ago. They're moving the Department of
Education functionally, they've been moving it to the Department of Labor.
Why would they do that other than the school to
work have something to do with that workforce development and
that sort of thing.

Speaker 14 (23:48):
Absolutely, yeah, workforce development. They when they started working on
the education system, they planned on worker training from kindergo up.
I mean, it's just when when you get into that
to the education system, it is just appalling what they did.

(24:13):
You know, from my point of view, children, especially the
youngest ones, you know, from kindergarten up to at least
sixth grade, they should be learning simply the based mathematics, English,

(24:33):
uh and and just the basics, you know, and then
you go from there. But to begin workforce development in kindergarten,
I mean that just that just frosts me, like you
can't believe.

Speaker 12 (24:48):
Yeah, absolutely, well, I'll tell you what before I turn
the corner and go to the next thing I want
to talk about, because really, I mean, government waste is everywhere,
and we could talk about it probably, you know, for days,
and unfortunately we have three hours. But I want to
talk a little bit for just a moment about Charlie
Kirk because I was going through some videos and I

(25:12):
can tell you that there is a shirt that Charlie
was wearing. It was a white shirt, and somebody pointed
this to me out and said it looked like a
hole in his shirt. But then the hole moves and
it wasn't there, and they were suggesting that it was
a sign of a tampered video. But this same whatever

(25:35):
was on his shirt, it actually is not a hole
because it moves. And I've seen this in a number
of different videos, and so I wanted to put this
on people's radar because I don't hear anybody talking about this.
I looked very closely at different videos and this mark
or I call it a black dot, but it's more

(25:57):
like a mark. It's on his shirt and it is there,
and when you can watch on the video, you can
see that you can hear what sounds like the sound
of gunfire ringing out, but then his shirt puffs up
like there's some kind of explosion in his shirt, and

(26:20):
then this mark this dot. I'm calling it a black dot,
but it's really a mark. You can see it fly
up and it moves from his shirt and hits him
in the neck. I am convinced now, VICKI, after examining
video evidence of this incident, that Charlie Kirk was not
shot from afar. I think he was shot by whatever

(26:41):
it was that was on or in his shirt. And
so I posted an analysis video of this. It's about
a six minute video in the chat room. People can
go in and take a look at that and see
what you think we got to take about in the
other break. We'll be back in a moment.

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Speaker 16 (31:58):
First.

Speaker 12 (31:59):
Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please, Hey, guys.

Speaker 13 (32:04):
Hope you're having a great Saturday, enjoying this government shut down.

Speaker 12 (32:11):
I wish they'd shut it down and leave it shut down.

Speaker 13 (32:14):
Uh, you and me both? Hey, But that and that's
what I wanted to talk about this government shutdown. Two
very specific things. One the first thing, and this would
be Mike Johnson. Now, Mike Johnson gets up there, and
I love these charts they always want to bring out
the charts, whether they're on the left of the right.

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Everybody's got to have charts and grabs and all this
stuff prove the point, which I get. Some people are visual,
and I get that. But he says, quote, pointing at
the chart, he says, quote, so you can see the
final total there, one hundred and ninety two point eight
billion dollars of your hard earned taxpayer dollars that Chuck

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Schumer and Democrats want to give back to illegal aliens.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
End quote.

Speaker 13 (33:06):
Now there's one problem with this. In order to give
something back to someone, it would have had to at
one point or another and theirs to begin.

Speaker 12 (33:18):
With, right, correct, Well, absolutely.

Speaker 13 (33:21):
So, since none of these since none of these tax
dollars ever did belong to the illegal aliens to begin with,
how are you going to give them back something that
never was theirs?

Speaker 12 (33:33):
Well, it gets even more complicated than that.

Speaker 31 (33:35):
Art It might be.

Speaker 13 (33:36):
I might be just nitpicking here, but I did go
to law school. I actually did study this thing called language,
because in law there is a very distinct importance made
about language and the use of words and that they

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do have mean. So for these idiots to be lawyers,
they sure don't have a very good grasp of the
English language.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
Well, they're trying to obscure the facts, and the facts
are the complexity of the situation is really it's just
engineered by them, because it's really actually very simple. These
not only was it not the whole thing isn't even
our money. The money is being stolen from right out,

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you know, basically your sustenance is being stolen out from
under you. Yes, but the funny money system, anything that's
given to illegal aliens or anything else, is created out
of thin air by the Federal Reserve system. And the
whole purpose of the taxes is to tax out of
circulation their money, their money, which is really debt.

Speaker 32 (34:53):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (34:54):
So they engineer the debt that they use to pay people,
and then they take away the debt money from you two. Uh,
to keep the whole system from going belly up and
collapsing under the weight of its own inflation. That's the
that's the crazy thing about this whole situation. And nobody,

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I don't care who they are. Nobody except maybe some
people in the alternative slash truth media. Uh, nobody else
is talking about this. It's certainly not in the mainstream
and most of the time not in the mainstream alternative
You know what what masquerades today is the alternative media.
And I'm talking about like, I know, is Steve Bannon
talking about this?

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (35:38):
Is you know, is anybody on the Bright Bart Are
they discussing this at all? I bet not?

Speaker 14 (35:45):
Yeah, Steve, Steve Bannon has moved on to selling gold.

Speaker 12 (35:50):
Okay, well, that seems like a logical solution. Actually, because
we know this, this this mess ain't gonna last forever.
Let's just put it down.

Speaker 14 (35:58):
But I don't. I don't tune in to listen to
commercials on buying gold, so so I don't listen as
much as I used.

Speaker 12 (36:11):
What's that.

Speaker 13 (36:13):
Back in the day we used to call these pyramid schemes?

Speaker 12 (36:17):
Yeah, well, selling gold, I mean, anyway, that's a legitimate purchase.
But you know, it's like I was telling my wife
last night. System Yeah, hold hold on, I was telling
my wife last night. You could have a whole closet
full of full of gold, but if you can't find
the food necessary, what's that gold really worth?

Speaker 32 (36:40):
Yep?

Speaker 12 (36:41):
You know, so everything really boils down to what things
sell for and what people are willing to pay for it.
So intrinsic value. Yes, there's intrinsic value there. But at
the end of the day, it's what it's what you
really can use that really is what matters. I'll go
ahead and go ahead with your thoughts.

Speaker 13 (37:01):
There, right. Well, you know I've always and I've argued
this on OURBN year. Oh god, I bet you over
ten years ago, probably closer to fifteen years ago, when
we were talking pretty heavily here on OURBN about the
bankers and how money's created and all of this kind

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of crap, you know, and people would always, well, it's
my money, my money, my money. You don't have any
idea what you're talking about. The definition of money if
you want to break it down in redneck language. I
speak redneck very fluently because I happen to be a redneck,
so of course I speak my native tongue. To put

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it quite bluntly, money is anything that you can exchange
to one person for something that.

Speaker 14 (37:53):
You need, right, that's exactly right.

Speaker 12 (37:58):
A chicken is money, that's right.

Speaker 13 (38:00):
Our money. Milk is money. It's tangible, it has value,
you can hold it in your hand, it has a use.

Speaker 12 (38:08):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (38:09):
So you have all the gold in the world, like
you said, you have all the gold in the world,
taking the amount of the Philippines just can't find any food.

Speaker 12 (38:16):
Yeah, and I'm not against gold. I'm not against those things.
I mean, I like things of value. It's but it's
a means of exchange, like you said, and that's where
the value comes.

Speaker 13 (38:29):
Oh. My educator was a man by the name of
George Gordon.

Speaker 12 (38:35):
Many of you out.

Speaker 13 (38:35):
There have heard that name. Oh yeah, And George used
to describe gold as portable land because it's its value
was so great that you could take and you could sell.
Back in the day, you could sell hundreds of acres

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of land a nice little chunk of gold. You could
take that chunk of gold, travel clear across the country
and virtually buy the equivalent amount of land that you
just sold in a new location. It was a great
way to transport wealth. That's all gold is. When it

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comes to the buying and selling of everyday needs, you're
better off to work with silver copper. I have a
lot of copper rounds because I know that when it
comes down to it, I'm going to be able to
buy actual groceries with copper rounds.

Speaker 12 (39:39):
Yeah, copper is a lot more rare than it used
to be too.

Speaker 13 (39:42):
With silver.

Speaker 12 (39:43):
They used to, they used to. Everybody used to have
copper pipes in their house, and a lot of times
they've gotten away from a lot of that. Now they're
not even doing that anymore.

Speaker 13 (39:52):
Yep. So getting back to the government shutdown. And this
is the other thing that I want call about. I
love how the people, how these idiots on the left
are just absolutely losing their flipping minds over the shutdown. Folks,
It's not a shutdown. The government is not shut down.

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This is a myth, This is a fairy, It is
a stair tactic. Yep, government is not shut down. Okay,
so what did happen? Well, a bunch of people got furloughed,
laid off, call it whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 12 (40:32):
I don't give a rents but duty and and they're
gonna get back paid.

Speaker 13 (40:36):
Well, basically they're gonna get back paid. They're basically they
that sent home. These are people that are referred to
as and I love this term essential non essential personnel.

Speaker 12 (40:49):
Exactly what does that mean?

Speaker 13 (40:51):
It means we are paying them to do a job
that doesn't even need to exist. Apparently noncent. Yeah, if
they're non essential, send them home.

Speaker 12 (41:04):
So what's what's going on here is that they're they're
actually getting a paid vacation that.

Speaker 33 (41:08):
They can do.

Speaker 13 (41:10):
Yeah, let's let's send them on home. Let them find
something productive to do with their time instead of fucking
off the government tip doing a job that doesn't even
need to exist because it's non essential. Yeah, exactly, Now
the government, how about we stop paying the senators and

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the representatives and stop paying government officials. Then you've got
a government shutdown.

Speaker 12 (41:38):
Yeah, I got to move on, But good points. I
appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely, paid vacation. You know, if we
started talking about in terms of all the federal employees
are getting paid paid vacations, that would certainly change the
whole dynamic of this conversation, wouldn't it, Because that's exactly
what it is. I mean, when you're laid off, you're

(41:59):
furlough or whatever, and then you get called back and
get all your money back, there's no pain there. You know,
this thing would have not gone would not be going on.
These theatrics wouldn't go on anytime. If these people really
had to forfeit the money. I guarantee you there'd be
a lot of pressure to settle things in Washington, DC.

Speaker 14 (42:21):
Well, you know what I'm curious about. You know, they
privatized a lot of our government, meaning they contracted it
out to big corporations who hired contractors to do the
jobs that federal employees used to do. I think that

(42:44):
those contractors are the ones that are really getting nailed
in this whole quote shutdown because, well, you'd have to
read their contracts, but I would think that that it
wouldn't be in the contract for retroactive pay for government contractors.

Speaker 12 (43:08):
Yeah, you're probably right, And the reason why it is
in the contract for the federal employees is because they're
all unionized. I think the first thing you want to
do is if you really want to get government spending
under control, is pass a law making it illegal for
employees to be unionized. I mean that seems like it.

Speaker 14 (43:27):
I know they didn't. The government employees were not always unionized.
I think that that started sometime in the nineteen seventies,
but I can't say that for sure, but I'm pretty
sure that the unionization of federal employees is relatively new.

Speaker 12 (43:49):
Yeah, I could look it up, but I'll tell you what.
Let me go ahead and move on. We get the
calls on the line. Let's go to Florida. Now you're
on the air, go ahead, please, oh.

Speaker 33 (44:00):
To talk about the American Union? Okay, the uh you know,
what country do you think would be the hardest sell
for the American people?

Speaker 12 (44:13):
What country would be the hardest sell? Probably the United States,
I would imagine.

Speaker 33 (44:18):
No, I mean, well, what what country joining with America
or the United States would be the hardest one to
sell to the American people. I mean, if we do,
we cook over Canada, you know, most people drugs or
some silder to say, yeah, okay, long as Canada agrees, Yeah,
it's Mexico.

Speaker 14 (44:37):
True, yeah, true, yeah, yeah, Mexico, no question.

Speaker 33 (44:42):
What what?

Speaker 6 (44:44):
What?

Speaker 33 (44:44):
Whereas Trump sending troops to how to fight the drugs.

Speaker 12 (44:47):
Dealers Venezuela or they're thereabouts? Is he sending them to Well,
he was sending them to Mexico, but I know he's
been doing a lot with Venezuela as well.

Speaker 33 (44:57):
Right right, Getting this used to using the to to
attack drug dealers with our army, we had to do.

Speaker 14 (45:06):
Well well, Actually that that started in the nineteen seventies.
I remember the military going down to South America to
fight the drug cartels. So the military was always used
in South America for that purpose.

Speaker 33 (45:26):
Now he's in the you know, a large contingent of
troops into Mexico to fight the drug dealers, and Gaudia Shinbaum,
who is probably on board with this American Union, starts
a little kerfuffle. It escalates into a war where we
conquer Mexico. M Well, now what what what happened? Now?

(45:51):
Think about this? How many.

Speaker 31 (45:54):
Checks does this?

Speaker 33 (45:56):
Or boxes? Does a check for?

Speaker 7 (46:00):
Uh?

Speaker 33 (46:01):
Trump? It seems wiped off the front page.

Speaker 12 (46:05):
Yeah, that's pretty much gone anyway now.

Speaker 31 (46:09):
Yeah, and you.

Speaker 33 (46:10):
Know everybody is interested in taking over Mexico now, and
he's he can get MAGA behind that, say, oh hell.

Speaker 12 (46:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they would love that absolutely.

Speaker 13 (46:23):
Well.

Speaker 12 (46:23):
I was pretty amazed at how quickly MAGA got behind
the idea of basically conquering Greenland. Uh. To me, it
was a kind of a nutty idea to begin with.
And now you don't hear much about it now, but
I was pretty blown away by how quickly that the
the MAGA could really support imperialism across the board.

Speaker 14 (46:48):
Well, you have to keep you have to remember though,
that whatever is talked about in the mainstream media and
then the primarily the mainstream media is propaganda. It's all propaganda,
and there's a hell of a lot of propaganda on
the internet. Yeah, so what's the real opinion of the

(47:10):
American people. We don't know.

Speaker 12 (47:13):
Yeah, well we do know when we can see their
opinions being posted. Of course, the algorithms are manipulated on
social media as well. I have to say, so, yeah,
you know your point is true. Go ahead, Color.

Speaker 33 (47:29):
There's something that you know, it just seems bluele out
there right now, but I think it's worth watching.

Speaker 12 (47:37):
Well, there's certainly no doubt that things are changing rapidly
and major shifts, major changes have happened throughout history, and
I think everyone kind of can agree that we seem
to be headed towards something major. And I mean we
have a number of different things that are brewing, including

(48:00):
civil war unfortunately. Uh, and you know, we have people
in the White House now and I'm thinking of JD.
Vance that you know, listens to people who are promoting
the idea of breaking up the United States into tiny
little fragments, you know, and doing away with people's liberty
in the process.

Speaker 14 (48:22):
So, I mean, do you do you have any clips
or lengths on that because I haven't heard jd Vance
say that, but I'd love.

Speaker 12 (48:31):
To Curtis j I read from Curtis Jarvin's book and
I played the clips of jd Vance on this show
where he jd Vance is referencing Curtis Jarvin. He's done
it a number of times in different venues, different media appearances.
So they're friends, and so he listens to him. Now,

(48:56):
I don't know how, how why has this guy got
a platform at all? It's my question because I think
he's a total screwball. Yet somebody had enough power to
get him interviewed by Tucker Carlson. Somebody had enough power,
you know. And again jd Vance drops his name from
time to time, so that should alarm everybody. Yeah, so anyway, caller, Hey,

(49:23):
I appreciate it. Thank you very much for the call.
Good points. God bless you, sir. Let's go on to California. Now, Hello,
you're on the air.

Speaker 34 (49:31):
Go ahead, please, ye all right, this is Cintia and California.

Speaker 12 (49:37):
Hi.

Speaker 34 (49:38):
I think it's important to realize that if you look
at the Constitution, the vision one postly the federal government
wasn't permitted to maintain control of large masses of lamb.
That land was when the territories were carved up in
the states. That land was supposed to be given to
the states. It wasn't supposed to be rechanged as a

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federal forests or federal land or federal anything. It belongs
to the states. So when you look at large debt,
countries actually get invaded if they can't pay back their debt.
Mexico was invaded apparently by the French, but around eighteen
forty eighteen fifty or something because they hadn't repaid debt.

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So the dates better start claiming that federal land as
their own, which it is. Before the federal government makes deals,
the people controlling go to make deals to trade land
for debt.

Speaker 12 (50:36):
Right, yeah, And as far as as far as land,
federal land, you're absolutely right, they're supposed to be purchased.
You know. What the Constitution says is Congress has the
power to exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over
such district not exceeding ten miles square, as may by

(50:58):
session of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress become
the seat of the government of the United States, and
exercise like authority over all places purchased purchased purchased by
the consent of the legislature of the state in which
the same shall be for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards,

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and other needful buildings. Doesn't say anything about national parks,
It doesn't say anything about national monuments. It doesn't say
anything about you know, land trusts or anything like that
being held by the federal government, you know, protected protected
places or endangered species protection either.

Speaker 14 (51:44):
Yeah, for the Western states, I think that was a
condition of statehood. They basically extorted the people in power
at the time to make that concession for statehood.

Speaker 34 (52:02):
Yeah, that does not mean that the current leadership in
that state has to has to agree to continue that.

Speaker 14 (52:11):
Well, you're right, and Idaho is beginning to negotiate with
the Feds for control over federal lands in Idaho because
they can. The Feds control a tremendous amount of Idaho,
you know, maybe up to like forty percent or so.

Speaker 12 (52:31):
Yeah, there's much most of the West really is under
the auspices of the federal government, to the point where
some of these Western states are having real difficult times
with any kind of economic development. You know, they can't
really have an economy because you can't really do anything
when when all the land is controlled and off limits
for use. Anyway, Cynthia, go ahead, Do you have anything else?

Speaker 34 (52:58):
Have you ever seen any public report of how much
the federal government collects as they sell off mineral rights,
for example, I'm thinking of the Uranium one deal that
Hillary Clinton did with the Russians. So that isn't something
the federal government is allowed to sell. It doesn't belong to.

Speaker 12 (53:18):
Them, right, that's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 14 (53:21):
Well, I think what they did is lease. Well, no,
they set up the Uranium One Corporation, and it wasn't
called Uranium one at the time. That was called Uranium
something or something or other. But that deal had to
do with Russia and the recycling of old nuclear materials

(53:46):
from the Cold War, from the end of the Cold War. So,
but they then started leasing out. They took away the
mineral rights, which I think were controlled mainly by the
oil companies. They took those away from them because they

(54:07):
weren't using them and told them, you know, since you're
not using them, well give them to somebody who will.
And then they leased out that land, and who knows
how much of that land they leased out to Russia
and China. You know, it was a complete disaster for

(54:33):
our economy, I think for our country.

Speaker 12 (54:36):
Yeah, Cynthia, thank you very much for the call. I
appreciate it. Let me I got another call on the line,
but I'm looking at the clock. We're very close. I'll
tell you what. I'll go ahead and take the call,
but we may have to hold you over Texas. You're
on the air, go ahead, please, well.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Any thanks, I appreciate you taking my call. It's Indy
in Texas.

Speaker 35 (54:56):
No.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I have a kind of a two part question, one
question comment.

Speaker 36 (55:00):
We got this.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
They're trying to get rid of all of these illegal
immigrants and stuff. Have you noticed that we're not seeing busloads, trainloads,
planeloads of all of these military age immigrants being busted
and planed and trained.

Speaker 32 (55:16):
Out of here.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
But what we are seeing is these guys going back
twenty years busting illegal immigrants that have been here for
fifteen twenty years now. I've seen a series of these things.
The most recent one is a in like Sioue City, Iowa.
He's the head of the superintendent, he's the superintendent of
some schools and are going to deport this guy he's

(55:39):
been there for several years and stuff. These guys are
they want to show us some sort of deportation, but
they're going after all the people who have been here
made alive. I've seen several of these different stories and stuff.

Speaker 12 (55:50):
That's interesting.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
You just see all these different Uh you know, you're
not busloads.

Speaker 12 (55:56):
Or anything these Yeah, you're fighting for a reason. Yeah,
it sounds like a dialectic. I don't know. Can you Uh,
we got the top of the hour, break, can you
can you drop and then call back because for some reason,
you're you're kind of fading on us.

Speaker 25 (56:13):
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Speaker 12 (56:13):
In the meantime, we'll take a break and we'll continue
on in this in the next hour. Hey, thank you, folks.
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Poormeric and Family News. I'm Chris wood Word. The government
shutdown is not expected to wind anytime soon. Fox's Chad
Pergrim has more from Capitol Hill.

Speaker 20 (59:13):
The Senate took a couple of test votes won on
a Democratic plan to fund the government. The revote on
the Republican plan to fund the government that passed the
House of Representatives a couple of weeks ago, and it
failed only fifty four votes on that plan they needed
sixty votes. There were three Democrats who sided with the Republicans.
They've done so on several votes so far. Here we

(59:33):
have Angus King, he's the independent senator from Maine who
caucuses with the Democrats. We have John Fetterman from Pennsylvania,
and also also Catherine Cortez Masto, a Democrat of Nevada.
Ran Paul the Republican from Kentucky. He voted with the Democrats.
So what this means is that the stalemate continues.

Speaker 38 (59:51):
Hamas has agreed to release all forty eight hostages. Foxes
Greg Palcott has more on the agreement with a new
Guzza peace plan.

Speaker 30 (01:00:00):
Ly had said that they would agree to the handing
over of the hostages, both dead and alive Israeli individuals,
that they'd been holding for almost two years now. They
also agreed on the surface to hand over power to
another entity in Kaza Strip. We are getting more details.

(01:00:20):
In fact, what they are now saying Hamas, quoted by
Reuters through also the Al Jazeera television network, is that yes,
they will hand over the hostages, but under the details
of the plan that President Trump has provided, it is
not going to be within seventy two hours.

Speaker 38 (01:00:40):
President Trump gave Hamas until Sunday to accept the deal
or face consequences. Catholics have been trying to take the
measure of Pope Leo in the few months he's been
in office. AFN Steve Jordall reports they're starting to find
out and many are not pleased.

Speaker 39 (01:00:55):
Chicago Cardinal Blazed Cupid announced he was going to present
long time Illinois Senator to Durban with a lifetime Achievement award.
The senator declined the honor after the faithful raised Rucus,
noting that Durbin has been a radical pro abortion lawmaker
his entire career. But Pop Leo's comments on the topic
raise some Catholic eyebrows.

Speaker 40 (01:01:14):
To say the least, someone who says I'm against abortion
but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is
not really pro life.

Speaker 39 (01:01:20):
The comments stunned and disappointed conservative Catholic podcaster Mett Walsh.

Speaker 41 (01:01:24):
First of all, God himself prescribes the death penalty in
the Bible, So if you believe the death penalty is
fundamentally wrong or anti life, you're either saying that God
is guilty of a moral crime, or you're saying that
the Bible.

Speaker 19 (01:01:35):
Does not accurately record God's commands.

Speaker 39 (01:01:39):
The Pope also revealed his misunderstanding of the conservative view
on immigration.

Speaker 40 (01:01:43):
Someone who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in
agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants or in the
United States, I don't know if that's pro life.

Speaker 19 (01:01:53):
Who in America is arguing for inhuman treatment of immigrants?
What do you mean? Are you talking about deportations?

Speaker 41 (01:02:00):
Are you saying that deporting an illegal immigrant is morally
equivalent or even similar at all to killing a human
child who poop?

Speaker 39 (01:02:07):
Also said all these issues are complicated and no one
has all the truth on them.

Speaker 19 (01:02:11):
There's no other truth to the abortion that we're waiting
to find out.

Speaker 12 (01:02:14):
We know it all.

Speaker 19 (01:02:16):
It's a human being who's being killed, and that is
a great moral evil.

Speaker 39 (01:02:20):
I'm Steve Jordall, a.

Speaker 38 (01:02:21):
Christian photographer in Louisville, Kentucky, has won her case challenging
a law that would not only force her to work
same sex weddings, but Chelsea Nelson's attorneys say the city
would not even allow her to express her views on
marriage on her own website. ADF attorney Brian Nheart.

Speaker 36 (01:02:38):
Three or three Creatives, aid that governments cannot use public
accommodation laws like Louisville's to compel Americans to say something
that they don't believe.

Speaker 38 (01:02:46):
Three to three Creative was also an ADF case, one
that involved a graphic and website designer in Colorado that
challenged the state laws similar to the one in Louisville.
In final news, Iowa's largest school district has fouled a
lawsuit against the consulting company it hired to identify superintendent candidates,
alleging the consulting firm did not properly vet Ian Roberts.

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Speaker 12 (01:05:08):
From Female Regions five and ten. This is the second
hour of Governor America. Vicky Davis is here. I'm during Weeks,
and it continues to be the fourth of October twenty
twenty five. As we get right back into the show here,
going back to the phone lines. Now back to Andy
in Texas, who just called back. Welcome back, Andy. What's
on your mind there?

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Okay, so you're news brief actually just through what I
was talking about right in our face. Yeah, they went
and got this guy who was a superintendent. He's been
here for like fifteen twenty years or whatever, worked this
way into being a superintendent of some schools in Iowa,
and now they're going to deport him. Now, Donald Trump
said he was going to depoor all of these legal immigrants,

(01:05:53):
saying he's going with the criminals. First, well, they're all
criminals because.

Speaker 12 (01:05:56):
The guy here illegally exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
At first they showed us C one thirty and they're
running the same group of people every day for almost
a week or so. They showed us the same image
of these running people up on a C one thirty
and we're going to deport them. We got Christy Noam
down there in the Salvadar going, hey, we we sent
all these people back. And I guess she's not the
only one who's taking that little shot in front of

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the jails and stuff or whatnot. But they're going after
just to show us that they're getting rid of illegal immigrants.
They're going after people who have been here for years
and stuff. And I'm not for that. These people got
here illegally and yet they're you know, they found their
way into prominence and they're actually active people in our society. Again,
I'm not for what they've done, but they did get

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away with it for a long time. Now we have
four years of nothing but immigration coming in here of
military age men. I don't think Donald Trump has the
authority to get rid of these people. These people are
here for a reason and we were We got to
discover that, and you know they are military age and whatnot.
So but we'll just jump from another thing from there.

Speaker 12 (01:07:01):
Well, let me just address that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I want to ask you guys a question.

Speaker 12 (01:07:04):
Well, before you go on to your your your next point,
let me just address the first one. Uh my concern,
My concern is not so much whether they're illegal. If
they're illegal, I don't care how long they've been here.
I'm all for deporting them because you can't be rewarded
even if you're allowed somehow allowed to stay here or

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managed to stay here for a lengthy period of time. Uh,
if you're illegal, you're illegal. That's That's kind of where
I come down on it.

Speaker 15 (01:07:34):
Now.

Speaker 12 (01:07:35):
Where my concern is, however, is how are they determining
these people whether Because the problem is, and I just
recently came across a story just within the last couple
of days, I guess that they were going to there

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was some kind of Hispanic concert going on on a
Super Bowl halftime or something, which featured a popular Hispanic performer,
and so they were sending ice there to patrol the
crowd at the super Bowl because the thought was is
that this particular performer was going to draw a lot

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of these illegos to that event. And I'm thinking, okay,
so we're going to have presumably uniform people or maybe
even plaine clothes officers patrolling a Super Bowl event looking
for people to arrest just because of the color of
their skin. I mean, how does that work exactly. I'm

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just kind of trying to figure out exactly how they determine.

Speaker 14 (01:08:45):
I wouldn't say arrest because of the color of their skin.
If they stop somebody and the person turns out to
be an illegal.

Speaker 12 (01:08:55):
Yes, that's different though.

Speaker 14 (01:08:58):
Yeah, they're sending so to deny the fact that Mexicans
are identifiable, you know, they're Latino Indian characteristics. To deny
the fact that they're identifiable by that is to deny reality.
And I'm not for denial of reality.

Speaker 12 (01:09:19):
Okay, but look, here's the problem. Here's the problem. There
are a lot of Hispanics in our country now that
you know, may may say, may sound like they're foreigners.
But are we going to get into a situation where
you have to prove that you belong here, in which
case you would have to produce your papers? Right papers? Please?

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So are these people going to be arrested if they
can't prove that they're American citizens? And isn't this exactly
what we should be fundamentally against. I don't know, you know,
it gets very very fuzzy when you're dealing with a
situation like this. And I'm all forward deporting the illegal aliens,
but the question is, how do you do that without

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deporting Americans? Real Americans that belong here, that have citizenship.
Really just happened? Is happen to have an accent that's
that's Mexican, or they speak Spanish or like tacos, or
they have brown skin.

Speaker 14 (01:10:20):
Well, real Americans have id You can't live in this country.

Speaker 12 (01:10:24):
But you shouldn't have to produce your papers in order
to stay here.

Speaker 14 (01:10:28):
That's my thing. That's kind of the situation that we're
in is kind of unique in the history. And I
it's there's no question that there is a war being
waged on the American people.

Speaker 12 (01:10:45):
Amen. And I think I think a lot of this
has to do with psychological operations and mind control, and
I think a lot of it is is it's it's
all a dialectic. It's all a dialectic.

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 14 (01:10:58):
And they've been trying to make us have real IDs
since the nineteen nineties. I have a link to a
hearing in which, oh who is that little freak that
work for the chamber?

Speaker 12 (01:11:14):
But there's so many freaks to choose from.

Speaker 14 (01:11:16):
VICKI yeah, I know, I know, I'll think of his name.

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
But if everify solves all this, doesn't it isn't it great?
Real id everify everything all tracking and tracing biometrics, having
a biometric identifiers on cameras and every street corners. This
will solve all of these problems so people aren't harassed
at the super Bowl. So there's your dialectic.

Speaker 42 (01:11:40):
It is.

Speaker 14 (01:11:41):
It is a dialectic. They've been playing games with the
American people since what I would say was the beginning
of the automation of our infrastructure. You can't say the
beginning of automation period, because that goes way back to

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the nineteen sixties and information systems. But at the point
when Clinton had his project to quote protect critical infrastructure,
that was after the Oklahoma City bombing. Yes, when they

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when they started that whole project, that was the beginning
of building police state America, where our infrastructure has been
used as information gathering points to send to the federal
government for total information awareness.

Speaker 12 (01:12:47):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, Andy, go ahead, and you had a
second point.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
You said, well, yeah, let me add to.

Speaker 9 (01:12:55):
That real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Let us not forget the very guy, the vegetable we
called Joe Biden actually invited all these people in as
soon as I'm elected, storm the whatnot, and then all
of a sudden, a couple of weeks later, he comes
out and says to America that our biggest problem is
white supremacy. Yep, So you know, forget that these people

(01:13:16):
are being pushed in here illegally, they're military age and whatnot,
But now we have to worry about white supremacy. Yeah,
getting onto the next question, or this is an actual question.
You come onto the show and you you say from
FEMA Region nine and six?

Speaker 12 (01:13:33):
Is it five and ten? Yes, we're five in Yeah,
Michigan is in FEMA Region five and Vicky is in
ten I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
So, yeah, that's the Washington, Idaho, Oregon.

Speaker 12 (01:13:49):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
So my question to you is do those FEMA regions
still stand today.

Speaker 12 (01:13:55):
Or absolutely they do? Are we Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:13:57):
Absolutely, they're even stronger now than they were when they
were created.

Speaker 12 (01:14:02):
And the reason why I do that, by the way,
is just to raise awareness that we are living in
a regional system. That Nixon divided the country into ten
federal regions, and because I think a lot of times
people don't know that, especially since a lot of people
have joined our movement if you want to call it
a movement, but they've joined the patriot realm. They become

(01:14:25):
more aware of freedom issues and so they're completely obliterate,
you know, oblivious to the fact that Nixon divided us
into ten federal regions, each with its own capital. And
who are these people that lead these regions, unelected bureaucratic
type freaks to coin Vicki's term. You know, we don't

(01:14:47):
know who these people are, we didn't elect them. We
don't have anything to do with that. Nobody's talking about
that anymore hardly, at least, not that I hear Tucker
Carlson's on. He talks a lot about a lot of
important things. I've never heard him talk about regionalism, you know,
Steve Bann, I don't think I've ever heard Steve Bann
talk about regionalism. A lot of these high profile people,
it'd be nice if they would jump on board with

(01:15:08):
this and expose this, because now we're not just dealing
with the tenfiler regions. We're dealing with overlapping, you know,
revenue sharing among cities. Those are regions. We're dealing with
home rule. We're dealing with cross border, cross country regions. Now,
you know, the Great Legs Compact. Vicky's got one out
there where she lives.

Speaker 14 (01:15:30):
Yeah, the Pacific Northwest Economic Region. There you go, and
let I've been working on that, trying to pull together
a coherent list of stories about that. What we had
with COVID was an attempt to basically implement martial law

(01:15:50):
in our country under the banner of emergency management, bedroll
emergency management. Now, the two two areas where they have
chosen to exert control over US is through the environment

(01:16:11):
and through public health. Those two things go together because
public health is environmental health. Now, they attempted to tie
those things together with the idea of eco regions ecoregional management,

(01:16:34):
which the entire Pacific Northwest is an ecoregion that they
intended to manage under the leadership of the environment and
public health. And pulling it together into an ecoregion brings

(01:16:55):
me all of the separate state entities together onder one
governing authority and the same I'm sure the same is
true for the Great Lakes Region.

Speaker 16 (01:17:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:17:10):
Absolutely, and it's international as well.

Speaker 14 (01:17:14):
Absolutely, it's international.

Speaker 12 (01:17:16):
Yeah, I'll give you another shot there, Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Last point. Last point. So we've heard of the Council
of Governors, Right, once a year, at least once a year,
all the governors of the country come together and have
a meeting and stuff, and that's when they dictate who's
going to be leading the regions or whatnot. Like when
I first found out about FEMA Region ten, it was

(01:17:41):
Christine greg Wire was the governor of Washington and she
was going to be the head, so Oregon and Idaho
and Washington were going to be under her rule. See
that simplifies everything and whatnot. And we have to be
careful about all this stuff. And this is where I
would encourage people to realize all these different groups that
are going on as the WEF, the WHO, the United Nations,

(01:18:04):
the Club of Rome, the Trilateral Commission of the CFR.
There's so many different combinations and stuff. And then these
guys have one big place to get together. I don't know,
as they Builderberg, I don't know, but they all come together.
They have their think tanks all through all this time,
and then they come together somewhere and then we get
our an agenda how they're going to push us through

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this thing called the New World Order. And you know,
George Herbert walker Bush said, and when we're successful and
we will be with the New World Order. It has
everything to do with all these different secret societies and
stuff and all these different meetings and stuff, and it
includes I'm sure they have a mayor, a mayor collection

(01:18:45):
mayors of cities get together, like the governors get together,
like presidents of countries get together, like prime ministers get together.
All these people are colluding together to drive the entire
world into one direction, which is their one world government.
They can't do it without everybody on board, and we
saw that everybody was on board with the participation of

(01:19:05):
the COVID nineteen one hundred and ninety three nations in
the United Nations. They recognize one hundred and ninety five
nations in the United Nations, but one hundred and ninety
three belonged to the United Nations. So there's a big club.
They've done a lot to pretend like there's a neutral
United Nations, but it's not a neutral United Nations. They've
just given us the image of that everything is you

(01:19:26):
and Agenda twenty this they use it you and Agenda
twenty thirty and so on and so forth. So I
would fashion people out there look at all the big
clubs because they all collude together.

Speaker 12 (01:19:37):
Yep, we get what we get.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 12 (01:19:39):
Hey, thank you for the call. Appreciate it. God bless you, sir.
Talk to you.

Speaker 14 (01:19:43):
Let me just say I do have information on the
International Organization of Mayors, okay, and they came together in
the year of two thousand, So I'll put that in
the show notes.

Speaker 12 (01:19:57):
All right.

Speaker 14 (01:19:58):
And there's also a Global Cities Organization. It's it's all
these individual associations and organizations that are killing us, and
they're just strangling us because they purport to represent the
views of average people, when in fact they don't at all.

Speaker 12 (01:20:22):
It's like George Carlin said, it's a great, big club
and you're not in it.

Speaker 14 (01:20:26):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 12 (01:20:28):
That's what they do. Get to use it on you though, Yeah,
they do.

Speaker 14 (01:20:32):
They do use it against us.

Speaker 12 (01:20:36):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:20:37):
From my point of view, I consider it to be treason.
I I'm kind of a hard case, you know, But
that's what they should be breaking up, is these cartels
of associated professions. And it's not just sessions but businesses.

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I mean that there are so many of them. And
all of that associated all of those associations began with
the City of London, and that's where that's where the
center of it is is the City of London.

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
Yeah. I don't see any reason to take it anywhere else. Certainly,
uh and and there certainly dominate the Middle East, and
they're and you're not allowed to criticize them increasingly or
you will run a file of hate speech, hate laws,
you know, And that's that's with his Charlie Kirk thing,

(01:21:44):
you know. And again I want to refer people to
the video that I did. Please go and watch that
video and and email me radio at Governamerica dot com
what you think of this. Because that shirt that he was,
he was, that mark that was on his shirt, it moves, VICKI.

(01:22:05):
You can see that the mark moves off his shirt
and hits him in the neck. You can see that
on the video. So that being the case, unless every
video that I've seen has been tampered with from this angle,
unless every video I've seen has been tampered with, Charlie

(01:22:26):
Kirk was not shot by somebody from AFAR. Whatever was
happening in his shirt, that is what hit him in
the neck. And I think people need to be talking
about that. And if so, what was that? What was
that on his shirty? What was the mark that exploded

(01:22:48):
or moved from his shirt? Because his shirt went up
it was like a puff of wind or something. In fact,
there it looked like there was even smoke coming out
of his shirt at one point briefly. But that thing
flies off his shirt and hits him in the neck.
And that raises some very interesting questions. Number one was

(01:23:11):
the guy who was accused of shooting him a patsy,
and I think at this point I think he was.
But number two. The other question, and I think this
is really even a more frightening question, is who put
that thing on Charlie's shirt?

Speaker 32 (01:23:29):
Was that?

Speaker 16 (01:23:29):
You know?

Speaker 12 (01:23:30):
Was that a microphone? And if so, why was it
an exploding microphone? Why did it move off his shirt?
How did it move off his shirt and hit him
in the neck?

Speaker 43 (01:23:41):
You know?

Speaker 12 (01:23:41):
And we were talking about Israeli intelligence, the masade, and
the fact that Charlie Kirk, leading up to his death,
was increasingly questioning Israel, increasingly critical of Netanyahu and the
Israeli government, and what was going on in Gaza, the
genocide that's taking place there, and I do call it genocide.

(01:24:04):
Charlie Kirk was asking questions and you or I can
ask questions. We're not as high profile as Charlie Kirk was.
When you're a high profile individual that have traditionally supported
something and then you start asking questions, you get tremendous pushback.
And in fact, he was complaining. There were numerous some

(01:24:26):
of which we've played on the air here. There were
numerous places where he was complaining about some of the
pushback that he was getting, some of the smears that
he was getting, the criticism he was getting. And what's
interesting about that is this government of Israel has been notorious.

(01:24:48):
It wasn't that long ago they were bragging about exploding
supposed Hamas leaders with tiny little pagers. They've mastered the
art of killing. They've mastered the art of assassinations. And

(01:25:10):
I don't know, was Charlie sabotaged by somebody from with
his own within his own organization, that's the question. I
don't know the answer to that, but I do know
what I can see. Yeah, I know what I can
see in the video, and I find it very very disturbing.
Let's go back to the phones, Sam and Missouri, you're

(01:25:33):
on the air, Go ahead, please.

Speaker 31 (01:25:36):
Yeah, Darren, I'm glad you brought that up about the
pagers because I mentioned that on my email list when
I sent out email list regarding some commentary I did
on that. And that is, if you go back to
the exploding pager thing, if you remember when Benjamin nette Yah,
who otherwise known as mile Lekowski, who by the way,

(01:25:58):
is not even he's Polly, She's not even Jewish, and
that's that's all another issue for another day. But he
appeared at the White House and gave presented Trump as
a gift of a golden pager.

Speaker 12 (01:26:14):
Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, thanks for bringing that
back up again. Yeah, that was kind of like a
I kind of viewed it as kind of a shot
across the bow, you know what, kind of a warning shot.
And I think other people did too. That's the last
thing you want is a golden pager from net and Yahoo.

Speaker 31 (01:26:36):
That's what I told Trish last night. We were talking
about and I said, I said, Honey, I said, I'll
tell you, of all the gifts I'm deprived of, is
a golden pager and the honey, you know, I just
really need one of those. And she said, you ain't
gonna get one.

Speaker 12 (01:26:50):
Hey, hold on a second, Sam, I'll hold you over
the break and stay with us. Folks. We got the
bottom of the hour break and we'll continue on here
in the next half hours. Stay with us. This is
governed America.

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Speaker 12 (01:31:14):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America. As
we continue on here on this October fourth, twenty twenty
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right now. And Sam, go ahead with your thoughts please.

Speaker 16 (01:31:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:31:42):
I'm just simply gonna say, you know, after choking around
with Tracher about this, the thing that kind of came
to my mind was how long is it going to
be before we start seeing mysteriously exploding things like cell
phones and various other things. Because if they can do
it with pages, if they can do it with the
stuff that they're doing it with, now can do it
with anything. Yeah, that's what makes this so bad.

Speaker 12 (01:32:04):
But do you remember that journalist for the I forget
what publication it was, but he was starting to expose
some things I think. I don't know if it was
a Clinton administration or which administration it was, I'd have
to go dig back deep into it. But he was
actually on the left, but he was exposed exposing a
lot of things going on, and they he died under

(01:32:28):
very mysterious circumstances where his car was going like at
a high rate of speed backwards and slammed into a
tree and then it blew up and caught on fire
and he burned up in it.

Speaker 14 (01:32:40):
Yeah, that was that young guy from California, right.

Speaker 12 (01:32:43):
Yes, I believe so.

Speaker 31 (01:32:44):
Yeah, Michael Hastings.

Speaker 12 (01:32:46):
Hastings, Yes, thank you, well, you got a good memory.

Speaker 31 (01:32:51):
Yeah that I remember that one because I remember it
was about four in the morning when this supposedly happened
and I this was when a lot of us started
questioning the idea. And by the way, there was an
experiment done with this later over around Saint Louis where
they actually experimented with can you conceivably through remote control
caused one of these late model cars to pass control

(01:33:17):
over to somebody remotely as opposed it to the driver,
And they did it with a I forgot what the
model van was, but it was a van that they
experimented with over in Saint Louis, and they had a
guy from a mile away doing things like blasting the radio.

Speaker 12 (01:33:31):
Yeah, they hacked right into it and different things.

Speaker 9 (01:33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:33:35):
Well, you guys remember that school bus. It was loaded
with I don't know, basketball players or football players or
something like that. But the bus driver took an exit.
At least it appeared that the bus driver did, but

(01:33:56):
I believe it was remote control of the bus, and
he took the exit ramp and then just drove right
straight through the intersection at the top and over and
went over the edge of the freeway on the other side,
killed most of them. I remember that.

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:34:16):
I don't remember the bus myself, but apparently Sam does
for that one.

Speaker 31 (01:34:21):
But I remember all these other ones, and that it's
very troubling because you got, you know, with all this
electronic stuff, these late model vehicles now virtually everything is
over the air, even updates now they can put they
can send updates to them. I mean, really, all you
got to do if you want to kill somebody to
send a faulty update.

Speaker 9 (01:34:39):
To a car.

Speaker 12 (01:34:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah yeah, Well, you know, because
you're not really driving the car anymore. You're driving the computer,
which in turn is driving it by proxy. So you're
you're essentially driving the car, but there is a an
entity in the middle, which is this electronic device which
is controlled by I guess it's the can bus. They
call it a can bus, but it's basically the car's

(01:35:05):
electrical system and it's all computerized. So if somebody can
get into that, they can control the car, they can
potentially gain control of it. Yes, so this makes it
real easy to assassinate somebody if they wanted to target
somebody in Hastings. If you recall, was actually complaining to somebody,
as I recall, he was wanting to borrow his neighbor's

(01:35:27):
car because his high end was it a Mercedes or
something like that. I believe it was a Mercedes, but
his high end car. He said it had been acting strangely.

Speaker 31 (01:35:41):
Yeah. Yeah, Well you look at the accelerator in all
modern cars. Now, there's no linkage, no direct linkage between
the engine then the accelerator. Right, you're exactly right. What
happens is you put your foot on the accelerator. You're
not controlling the engine directly. You're sending a command to
the computer. And depend upon how hard you put on
that pedal is how fast the computer will, you know,

(01:36:05):
rev up the engine. But see, because you've got that
computer in the middle, there's all kinds of crazy stuff
that you could do between the driver and the engine.
And the same thing with the brakes. And that's what
a lot of people don't understand. And I've been trying
to expose this for ages. And that is every appliance
that you have. Now, if you have a late model
appliance in your home, it doesn't matter if it's a car,

(01:36:26):
it doesn't matter if it's a dishwasher, washing machine, whatever.
There is no direct control over that device anymore. You
send a command to a computer for the cycle you want.
You hit the start button and assuming the smart meter
hasn't sent a command for that not to operate. The
machine will go through a checklist of trouble conditions and
as soon as all faults are cleared, then it'll give

(01:36:48):
the go ahead and start it.

Speaker 12 (01:36:50):
Yeah, we were losing control. We're losing control of everything.

Speaker 31 (01:36:54):
Don't even know it. I think it's all I got lost.

Speaker 12 (01:36:57):
Hey, thank you for the call. Appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (01:37:00):
Losing lost. And I think what Israel's claim to fame
is what got them into this at the beginning was miniaturization.
And I was in New York when the first spy
shop opened up, and I believe it was either opened

(01:37:23):
up in the Diamond District forty seventh Street or close
by there on one of the avenues. But anyway, and
that's what they did. They sold spy technology and it
was called the spy Shop. And so I think that's

(01:37:46):
what gave Israel really the head start. And if you remember,
going back to the Reagan administration, they built a new
embassy in Moscow believe it was, but they hired local
contractors and what they found out was that the entire

(01:38:08):
embassy was just embedded with miniaturized spy technology. Throughout the embassy.
They had they had to tear the embassy down and
build a new embassy because of it.

Speaker 12 (01:38:24):
Yeah, well, when it comes to uh, the masade, you've
got to be careful. You've got to be very very
careful that you're not too critical, not too critical of
the government of Israel, because the powers that be that
control our government here in the United States certainly are

(01:38:45):
remote controlled by Israel. And I don't think that's a
conspiracy theory at all. The funding is there. We send
money over to there in the in the form of
foreign aid, you know, to defend Israel, because you know,
Israel has a right to defend itself. Israel has a
right to defend itself. Everybody say it together again, Israel
has a right to exist. There you go there, but

(01:39:11):
but but no, but you have the obligation, Vicky, that's
the that's the statement that they would make to you.
You have to pay for it. Well, what reason? If
you say too much? You might just be a hater
and then and then they'll sick the Anti Defamation League
on you and uh recently Jonathan green Blatt or yeah,

(01:39:36):
I guess it's how you pronounce it. He is the
with the he's actually the CEO I guess of the
Anti Defamation League, and uh, he just recently came out
and announced that they're switching tactics. They're going from defensive
to offensive, and he's going to tell you exactly how

(01:39:57):
how much they are declaring warfare or really lawfair is
the word on people's speech.

Speaker 46 (01:40:04):
We stopped playing defense and have moved to offense.

Speaker 16 (01:40:10):
You see this in our focus on the courts.

Speaker 46 (01:40:13):
In the past twelve months, ADILS filed more lawsuits than
the prior one hundred and twelve years against extremist groups,
elite universities, public companies.

Speaker 16 (01:40:26):
School districts, and state sponsors of terror.

Speaker 46 (01:40:30):
We've launched innovative products intercept anti semitism.

Speaker 16 (01:40:33):
Before it takes root, whether in the boardroom or in child.

Speaker 12 (01:40:37):
Okay, before it takes root. Now think of it. What
does that mean exactly before it takes root? Does that
mean when you speak it immediately, they're going to be
on you before it takes anti semitism?

Speaker 16 (01:40:50):
Number one?

Speaker 12 (01:40:51):
What is anti semitism anything they wanted to mean, that's what.
But getting after people before it takes root, that's stifling
free speech.

Speaker 9 (01:41:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:41:05):
Time, there's a nest of Marxists up in northern Idaho.
And that's there, that's their everyday accusation. If you say anything,
they accuse you of being a racist at semi.

Speaker 12 (01:41:24):
Because these are tactics. These are tactics that have worked
for many, many years, and so why change the tactic
if it works. But I think it's it's getting to
the point where people don't care anymore about these tactics.
They're getting wise to it, and that's what's got them
alarmed to the point now where the being a little
more overt or a lot more overt about what they're

(01:41:47):
trying to accomplish. And and this is going to be
manifesting itself in a push by I think Republicans, big
time and hate speech laws. I can see it coming. Yes, anyway,
he continues.

Speaker 46 (01:42:03):
Elite universities, public companies, school districts, and state sponsors of terror.
We've launched innovative products intercept anti semitism.

Speaker 16 (01:42:13):
Before it takes root, whether in the boardroom or in
chat rooms.

Speaker 12 (01:42:18):
In the boardroom or chat room, innovative products. What are
these products? AI? AI? So the AI is monitoring your
chat rooms and basically reporting you to big brother.

Speaker 14 (01:42:32):
Well, I think they've been doing that for a long time.

Speaker 12 (01:42:35):
Well, he says, they've launched innovative products. I did. It's
interesting large language models or academic.

Speaker 19 (01:42:41):
Association So it is AI he's talking about large.

Speaker 46 (01:42:45):
Language models are academic associations in Wikipedia entries or WhatsApp chats.

Speaker 12 (01:42:53):
So he's talking about chat rooms. He's talking about places
where people go, people gather to talk amongst themselves. The
ad L is monitoring chat rooms to presumably file lawsuits
against you for hate speech.

Speaker 16 (01:43:09):
This work matters not just for the Jewish people, but
for all of society.

Speaker 12 (01:43:13):
Yeah, you're gonna kill all of society, kill freedom for
the Yes, the Jewish people, but everybody. Nobody can talk.
And if people think, if a Jewish person thinks that
this is for their benefit, eh, you better think again.
This boot of tyranny is coming down upon everybody's head equally.

(01:43:34):
They will turn against anybody. Perfect example of that is
what we saw with the TSA. I got that hearing.
Some clips from that hearing we'll get to as time
progresses here. Vicky, with regard to this TSA sor he
was a senior Air marshal who was his wife was

(01:43:58):
put on a do not flylist. Congress just said a
hearing about this she was put on a do not
fly list under the Quiet Skies program. And he was
a senior Air marshal with the TSA, and it was
only because she attended a political protest that this happened

(01:44:19):
to her. And so here he is. He says, technically,
they've got me living with a terrorist because his wife
was put on a do not fly list. This is
how insane this is, and this is why everybody needs
to resist it.

Speaker 14 (01:44:36):
Well, you know something important that is unsaid in that
is that the data, our government data is bad. And
I found two stories last week, one with the California
DMB and the other one I can't remember, but it

(01:44:58):
was about bad government data. And when they began the
reinvention of government, the redefinition of government, they used the
term market state. But market is a synonym for a government,

(01:45:19):
for a control system. You know how corporations they have
their corporate IT department, and their corporate IT department keeps
track of everything, no matter how big the corporation is,
they keep track of everything, and they keep track of
every minute of every day of every employee. And excuse me,

(01:45:45):
I'm a sneeze. Sneeze, I'm sorry about.

Speaker 12 (01:45:49):
That, folks, talk amongst yourselves, while Vicky.

Speaker 14 (01:45:52):
Just just give me a minute here too.

Speaker 12 (01:45:55):
Don don don don dunda.

Speaker 14 (01:46:00):
Anyway, And so the stories are beginning to trickle out
how bad our government data is. I've known it for
a long time because that's what I did for a living.
That's what I do, you know. But the unspoken side
of that story is the source of that data. You know,

(01:46:25):
if you have garbage collected and then garbage sent into
a central repository with no forensic audit capability is to
where that data came from, You've got absolute chaos. Yeah,
your data is total garbage.

Speaker 12 (01:46:48):
Well, I'm glad you are pointing out that authenticity of
data is in question, because I don't have to tell you, Vicky.
In the coming days, data, whatever data the government has
on you, is going to determine whether or not you
are able to make a living, whether or not you
were able to travel, whether or not you were able
to buy certain products at the store. And we need

(01:47:12):
to look no further than China as the model of
what they want to do everywhere. And he's like, what
do you mean by they? While I'm talking about the
rich billionaires at the World Economic Forum, which control the world.
Oh oh, you're a conspiracy nut. You must be crazy
if you think to control the world. Yeah, that's why
when Claus Schwab said built back better, all of the

(01:47:34):
politicians and every country parroted everything he said. Right, they
use that same phrase, including our own lunatic Joe Biden
said the same thing, build back better. Yeah. So these rich,
filthy fat cats that dress up in the fancy rabbit
costumes and go into these parties and probably molest children

(01:47:59):
too while they're there. Yet none, none of these characters.
And I'm not specifically talking about Claus Schwab. I don't
know what he does. But the point is is that
this is a lot of what happens among the rich
billionaire class apparently. The point is is that they have

(01:48:20):
a lot of power, and they have a lot of
influence and a lot of control, and they have the
ability to manipulate and control governments, and they are pushing
this thing from the World Economic Forum to all the
other groups that Andy was talking about earlier, Council on
Foreign Relations, all these different clubs, all these different think tanks,

(01:48:41):
they're all a part of it. And that's who I'm
talking about when I say they and China has an
AI industry. Recently they are talking about in fact, this
is the Government of China, the State Council, the People's
Republic of China State Council. They have an English language

(01:49:02):
version of their website and they're talking about how they
have over fifty three hundred enterprises with involving AI. China's
artificial intelligence or AI sector has seen robust growth, they brag,
with the number of enterprises at fivey three hundred as
of September, accounting for fifteen percent of the global total.

(01:49:24):
According to the China Academy of Information Communications Technology, they
say that the industry's scale exceeded nine billion YU on
which is one hundred twenty six point seven billion US
dollars in twenty twenty four, a year on year increase
of sorry this is running off the page twenty four percent.

(01:49:44):
The data showed the country's AI sector has established a
complete industrial chain spanning the foundation, foundational infrastructure, model architecture,
and industry applications. In twenty twenty four, the revenue of
these three segments increased fifty four percent, eighteen percent at
thirteen percent year on year, respectively, according to the Academy.

(01:50:07):
It added that smart hardware, represented by AI powered phones, computers,
and cars, is experiencing rapid growth. China has made sustained
efforts to promote the digital economies transformation into a smart
economy and an intelligent society. Earlier this year, the country
published a set of guidelines on deeply implementing the Quote

(01:50:31):
AI Plus Initiative, aiming to strengthen AI supportive infrastructure and
accelerate the integration of AI technology across economic and social domains. Again,
that is the State Council of the People's Republic of China.

(01:50:52):
That is their own website.

Speaker 14 (01:50:54):
Well, let me tell you something about China. All the
wild China when I will Growing up, China was basically
like a black hole. People didn't know much about China.
But in nineteen seventy eight, IBM moved first over to Taiwan.
They set up a site in Taiwan, and then they

(01:51:18):
moved to the to mainland China. So I think you
could safely say that whatever technology China has, it was
built by IBM.

Speaker 12 (01:51:31):
Oh I don't doubt IBM. It was built by big
tech companies that are supposed to be loyal to the
United States, but they're not loyal to anybody. They're globalized
in nature.

Speaker 14 (01:51:43):
Around nineteen ninety three or nineteen ninety four, IBM's stock
was driven down into the dirt.

Speaker 7 (01:51:52):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:51:52):
There was a big propaganda campaign, big Iron is dead,
you know, because of the PC. Well, the only people
that thought that were the PC jockeys who who didn't
know of the power of mainframes, and Dell computers found

(01:52:12):
out about it once they outgrew their server system and
they had to move to a mainframe system because the volume.
The big IBM machines were built for volume and for
capacity and for add on devices.

Speaker 12 (01:52:30):
Yeah, now it's the cloud. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:52:33):
The CPU itself was not very big. I mean it
was like the size of a mini computer or something.
It was not very big. It was all the peripheral devices,
all the hard drives, all the tape drives, all the printers,
all the PCs or terminals that were attached before that,

(01:52:59):
and so it wasn't true. But that was a propaganda campaign.
Drove the price of IBM stocked down. And who bought
it apparently was lou Gerstner took it over, and I'm
not sure if he was with R.

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
J R.

Speaker 14 (01:53:19):
Nabisco at the time or whether he was with American
Express travel related services at the time, but either way,
the takeover of IBM was I would say, really the
beginning of the building of the surveillance state.

Speaker 12 (01:53:41):
Yeah, I don't doubt that at all. And this AI
plus is going to significantly control the people of China,
but I think it's a model for everything else in
the entire world.

Speaker 14 (01:53:55):
That's what that's what computer systems do. They defined processes
to manage sets of data like.

Speaker 12 (01:54:07):
Data elements, and they're going to be managing your life increasingly,
they say exactly on this website. And again this is China.
The State Council the People's Republic of China, China issued
guidelines a guideline on Tuesday, and this was a couple
of weeks ago to implement the AI plus initiative promoting
the extensive an in depth integration of AI across various

(01:54:30):
fields to accelerate the cultivation of new, quality, productive forces.
According to a guideline released by the State Council, China's Cabinet, country,
the country will boaster the application of AI in science
and technology, industrial development, consumption, upgrades, people's well being, governance

(01:54:53):
and global cooperation by twenty twenty seven China aims to
achieve significant progress in and the deep integration of AI
in six key sectors, with the penetration rate of new
generation intelligent terminals and AI agents expected to surpass seventy percent.

(01:55:14):
The guideline said the core industries of the Intelligent economy
will see rapid growth and the role of AI in
public governance. Did you hear that the role of AI
in public governance will be insignificantly enhanced? The guideline also
stated that by twenty thirty, AI will empower China's high

(01:55:36):
quality development across all fronts, with the penetration rate of
next generation smart terminals and AI agents exceeding ninety percent,
highlighting that the intelligent economy will become a significant growth
driver for China's economy. I'm almost up to the break.

Speaker 14 (01:55:57):
I'm hoping that somebody will sue about the AI being
embedded in our browsers and on our computers. I get,
I do not want AI anything.

Speaker 12 (01:56:12):
Yeah, Vivaldi has taken a stand against that, at least
for now. There's some question as to whether or not
they're going to hold on that. But they're trying not
to put AI in Vivaldi because they just don't want
they don't like it. But anyway, we got the top
of the hour break right now. Our number three is
straight ahead. We'll finish up this China thing on the

(01:56:34):
other side. Stay with us.

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Speaker 38 (01:59:05):
I'm Chris wood Word. The government shutdown is not expected
to wind anytime soon. Fox's Chad Pergrim has more from
Capitol Hill.

Speaker 20 (01:59:13):
The Senate took a couple of test votes won on
a Democratic plan to fund the government. The revote on
the Republican plan to fund the government that passed the
House of Representatives a couple of weeks ago, and it
failed only fifty four votes on that plan they needed
sixty votes. There were three Democrats who sided with the Republicans.

Speaker 30 (01:59:31):
They've done so on several votes so far.

Speaker 20 (01:59:33):
Here we have Angus King, He's the independent Senator from
Maine who caucuses with the Democrats. We have John Fetterman
from Pennsylvania, and also also Catherine Cortez Mastow, a Democrat
of Nevada. Ran Paul the Republican from Kentucky. He voted
with the Democrats. So what this means is that the
stalemate continues.

Speaker 38 (01:59:51):
Hamas has agreed to release all forty eight hostages Foxes.
Greg Palcott has more on the agreement with a new
Gaza peace plan.

Speaker 30 (02:00:00):
Initially had said that they would agree to the handing
over of the hostages, both dead and alive Israeli individuals
that they'd been holding for almost two years now. They
also agreed on the surface to hand over power to
another entity in Gaza Strip we are getting more details.

(02:00:21):
In fact, what they are now saying Hamas, quoted by
Reuters through also the Al Jazeera television network, is that yes,
they will hand over the hostages, but under the details
of the plan that President Trump has provided, it is
not going to be within seventy two hours.

Speaker 38 (02:00:40):
President Trump gave Hamas until Sunday to accept the deal
or face consequences. Catholics have been trying to take the
measure of Pope Leo in a few months he's been
in office. AFN Steve Jordall reports they're starting to find
out and many are not pleased.

Speaker 39 (02:00:55):
Chicago Cardinal Blaze Cupid announced he was going to present
long time Illinois Senators Dick Durbin with a Lifetime Achievement award.
The senator declined the honor after the faithful raised Rucus,
noting that Derbott has been a radical pro abortion lawmaker
his entire career. But Pope Leo's comments on the topic
raise some Catholic eyebrows.

Speaker 40 (02:01:14):
To say the least, someone who says I'm against abortion
but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is
not really pro life.

Speaker 39 (02:01:20):
The comments stunned and disappointed Conservative Catholic podcaster Matt Walsh.

Speaker 41 (02:01:25):
First of all, God himself prescribes the death penalty in
the Bible. So if you believe the death penalty is
fundamentally wrong or anti life, you're either saying that God
is guilty of a moral crime, or you're saying that
the Bible does not accurately record God's commands.

Speaker 39 (02:01:39):
The pope also revealed his misunderstanding of the conservative view
on immigration.

Speaker 40 (02:01:43):
Someone who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in
agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants or in U
of states, I don't know if that's pro life.

Speaker 19 (02:01:53):
Who in America is arguing for inhuman treatment of immigrants?

Speaker 12 (02:01:57):
What do you mean?

Speaker 19 (02:01:58):
Are you talking about deportations?

Speaker 41 (02:02:00):
Are you saying that the porting an illegal immigrant is
morally equivalent or even similar at all to killing a
human child?

Speaker 7 (02:02:06):
Who?

Speaker 39 (02:02:07):
Poope also said, all these issues are complicated and no
one has all the truth on them.

Speaker 19 (02:02:11):
There's no other truth to the abortion that we're waiting
to find out.

Speaker 9 (02:02:15):
We know it all.

Speaker 19 (02:02:16):
It's a human being who's being killed, and that is
a great moral evil.

Speaker 38 (02:02:20):
I'm Steve Jordall, a Christian photographer, in Louisville, Kentucky, has
won her case challenging a law that would not only
force her to work same sex weddings, but Chelsea Nelson's
attorneys say the city would not even allow her to
express her views on marriage on her own website. ADF
attorney Brian.

Speaker 36 (02:02:37):
Nheart Three or three Creatives aid that governments cannot use
public accommodation laws like Louisville's to compel Americans to say
something that they don't believe.

Speaker 38 (02:02:46):
Three to three Creative was also an ADF case, one
that involved a graphic and website designer in Colorado that
challenged the state laws similar to the one in Louisville.
In final news, Iowa's largest school district has foul a
lawsuit against the consulting company it hired to identify superintendent candidates,
alleging the consulting firm did not properly vet Ian Roberts.

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the country illegally. That's all our time for now. Find
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This is govern America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 12 (02:05:06):
From FEMA Regions five and ten. This is the third
and final hour of Governor America. Vicky Davis is here.
I'm Darren Weeks, and it continues to be the fourth
of October twenty twenty five. As we get right back
into the show here, I wanted to. We've got a
lot to cover, but we're talking about technocracy right now.
How the model of China and how they're surveilling their
people is spreading everywhere and nowhere. Do we need to

(02:05:31):
look any further than this AI plus program that they're
implementing over there now. Over on take back our Tech
dot org they write about this and it's a very
interesting article. They say the Chinese State Council, which is
that I just read you what the Chinese State Council said.

(02:05:52):
They released its bold new plan AI Plus. AI plus
is a state driven technology initiative that aims to transform
every aspect of Chinese society with AI. This tenure plan
pushes to embed AI in six strategic domains and rather
than one off actions like investing in data centers. The
goal is to fully integrate AI into society with a

(02:06:15):
standardized development process, extensive education, and global cooperation with other countries.
Central to this strategy are intelligent terminals quote unquote, which
appear to be devices that tap into public services or
any service that's integrated with the AI plan. These intelligent

(02:06:35):
terminals would take form as phones in car dashboards, smart
home dashboards, and wearables. Although it's unclear what exactly civilians
will do at these terminals, A good guest would be
handling utilities, paying bills, and requesting public appointments. The broad

(02:06:55):
vision appears to be to connect AI to everything and
view it from one place. Also central are AI agents,
which work alongside humans in various roles. Now, keep in mind, folks,
anytime you have AI, you have gathering of intelligence, you
have gathering of data. Okay, all of these metrics are

(02:07:16):
going to be going into databases. So just the more
you interact with AI, the more AI gathers data on you.
So they say, examples could be an industry helping people
gather the data they need, or coordinating with different departments.
By twenty twenty seven, they would like seventy percent penetration
of these AI systems across terminals and AI agents in

(02:07:38):
their core industries. By twenty thirty this jumps up to
ninety percent penetration, and by twenty thirty five they'll be
ready for the next stage of the intelligent economy. Perhaps
at that point they won't need humans to do anything
at all. The report focuses on six pillars of integration,
science and technology, people's welfare, industrial development, consumption, quality, governance,

(02:08:07):
global cooperation. The science and technology pillar will optimize building
research platforms around AI. This includes cross modal data sets
that AI can train from and that are open to
the public. Additionally, new fields will be explored with the
help of AI, and that is biomanufacturing six G because

(02:08:31):
you know, five G wasn't good enough. We got to
go with six G now quantum technology quite eerily. These
fields are important for developing nanotechnology, such as those outlined
in the twenty twenty Internet of Bodies Report. You remember
the Internet of Things, VICKI, Yes, now we have the

(02:08:52):
Internet of Bodies. This report predicted a future where people
will be connected to medical devices, tracking health data in
real time. Yeah, and you better believe the Internet of
Bodies will include a whole lot more than just medical devices.

Speaker 7 (02:09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:09:11):
Within basically turns you into a.

Speaker 12 (02:09:18):
Component of the World Wide Web and.

Speaker 14 (02:09:20):
An entity of the computer systems.

Speaker 12 (02:09:24):
Yeah, welcome to the matrix. Yeah. Within industrial development, we
see that entire industries will be managed by AI with
smart industrial machines, drones and robots. No industry will be
left untouched, including agriculture, where AI will oversee the breeding
of different livestock. The third pillar, consumption quality, aims to

(02:09:46):
make AI easier to stomach for civilians, with research and
development in areas like brain computing interfaces to make the
interaction with AI seamless, with the intention of it being
adopted by everyone. Of course, the people's welfare is top
of mind and the plan. The plan aims to replace

(02:10:06):
every job that is lost with AI automated production. AI
will not only come with ideas for jobs, but empower
previous roles. AI learning companions will be rolled out to
schools and will be an integral part of the student's
educational experience. The new form of textbook AI governance or

(02:10:27):
AI plus governance will utilize AI in urban planning and
infrastructure upgrades. China will not exclude those living out in
the country and has made it explicitly clear that rural
areas should be integrated with AI part of this governance structure,
not just for people, but for digital persons in robots.

(02:10:49):
It's unclear that this means what this means specifically, but
one could imagine updating the behavior of AI agents and
robots with the passing of a new law or in
the face of natural disaster. Additionally, AI will be used
to improve national security, likely by monitoring surveillance systems such
as cameras and sensors. AI will also conduct in depth

(02:11:11):
social experiments. We assume this means within the domain of
public services, in order to see the effect of policy
decisions in real time in how humans in AI operate
and the results. But don't worry. Don't worry, China isn't
keeping all of this AI magic to themselves. They will

(02:11:31):
share it using global cooperation, treating AI as a public
good and ensuring that even less tech capable countries in
the Global South can lean on China to develop their
own AI frameworks. China will work with the UN to
develop interoperable platforms and shared standards. So this is again

(02:11:54):
what I say, folks, AI or China is the model
for the world. And make no mistake on the page where.

Speaker 14 (02:12:05):
I wrote about global systems, on one of the pages,
I called it the posthuman system. It is posthuman.

Speaker 12 (02:12:13):
Yeah, well that's what they've called it. They call it posthumanism.

Speaker 7 (02:12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:12:18):
After you have the the transhumanism stage, you reach a
stage of post humanism, according to the trans humanists, who
are technocrats.

Speaker 14 (02:12:30):
And uh yeah, and are they going to keep the
that that's going to make a lot of excess people.
And with those excess people, my thinking was that they're
going to be used for human experimentation.

Speaker 12 (02:12:48):
Yeah, I think you're probably. That could very well be
absolutely sad to see. Sad to say, but because of
the reality, I guess, what do they have to offer
a totally high tech world. You don't want to be
a useless.

Speaker 14 (02:13:04):
Sending Yeah, nothing except their body for medical science.

Speaker 12 (02:13:08):
So they say. Albania made headlines by appointing an AI
minister to run public procurement. But as we see from
this AI plus plan, it really doesn't hold a candle
to China's ambitions. That begs the question, if everything is
run by AI and every system is reliant on its operations,
who audits the AI and more importantly, who can stop

(02:13:31):
it if or when things go wrong? The plan provides
no answer to these important questions. So that's something that
I think people need to understand. And given that, I mean,
what you're looking at here is a recipe for total
technocratic enslavement, total enslavement, total control by computer systems. We

(02:13:56):
run a documentary on the screen on the stream called
one main Frame to control them All. And that really
is what you're dealing with here when you're dealing with
AI and you want a vision of the future. We've
talked about it for years here on Government America about
the Chinese social credit score system. Well now the establishment
media is starting to catch up, at least in France.

(02:14:19):
France twenty four did a profile of some people in China.

Speaker 16 (02:14:22):
Now.

Speaker 12 (02:14:23):
Because this system's been implemented and it's been in place
for years, they've done some experimentation across provinces, implementing it
differently in different places just to see what works the best.
But now they've had a chance, things have the dust
has settled, so to speak, a little bit on exactly
how they're going to implement it, and France profile some

(02:14:44):
people in China who are living under this techno credit terry, and.

Speaker 42 (02:14:47):
They're constantly monitored by facial recognition cameras that are able
to instantly put a face to a name. Now, the
Chinese are also ranked, given a mark out of a
possible at nine hundred and fifty points. A score in
the seven hundreds is considered good. Around the five hundred
mark is not for now. The number is a sort
of bank credit rating, keeping track of everyone's spending habits.

Speaker 48 (02:15:12):
I think being ranked is a good thing, and society
has to have rules.

Speaker 19 (02:15:17):
A good slave, it forces us to be well behaved.

Speaker 12 (02:15:22):
Forces us to be well behaved, he says. It may
seem scary, but it's just like that here.

Speaker 14 (02:15:26):
We're used to it, and anyway we don't have a choice.

Speaker 42 (02:15:29):
But in an effort to keep all of its subjects
in line, Beijing is taking the system a step further
in twenty twenty. It's aggregating data gathered by banks, private companies,
and the state to rate if someone's a good or
bad citizen.

Speaker 49 (02:15:45):
By using the most data possible, the so called big data,
the system will play an important role in rebuilding a
moral society.

Speaker 42 (02:15:54):
The state will go over every detail of a person's
life with a fine tooth comb a financial situation, spending, habits, career,
even behavior on social media. Criticizing the government online or
displaying outward signs of wealth is a no no. On
the other hand, raising the party or giving blood increases
your social credit. Chao ween Wog is a model citizen.

(02:16:17):
She lives in Nanjing, a testing ground for social ranking,
married with a child. She has a job in a
retirement home, no debts, and she wouldn't dream of jaywalking.

Speaker 19 (02:16:29):
As a good citizen, I respect the rules of the
road if I didn't, at least points on my social credit.

Speaker 42 (02:16:35):
In theory, everything can be taken into account in the
social school, even the most innocuous errands like supermarket shopping.
When Chao ween wang makes an electronic payment, her purchases
tell the state a lot about her. Buying cigarettes would
count against her. On the other hand, nappies show she's
an attentive mother. Beer could indicate alcoholism should be better

(02:16:58):
off buying water. In this pilot city of eight million people,
there are only eighteen thousand model citizens for Shao. When one,
there are perks to be had, such as paying half
price for the bus.

Speaker 12 (02:17:13):
I get discounts for all public services, even at museums, and.

Speaker 19 (02:17:18):
The library is free for me thanks to my school.

Speaker 42 (02:17:23):
A good school brings benefits, but people with low schools
lose rights. The Cinnamon shames people considered untrustworthy, plastering their details,
even their addresses, across big screens.

Speaker 21 (02:17:38):
It's a matter of principle.

Speaker 14 (02:17:39):
Those people have to be condemned.

Speaker 42 (02:17:42):
Those people aren't honest, so they have to pay the price.

Speaker 12 (02:17:45):
It's only right to pay your debts. You have to
blacklist those that don't.

Speaker 42 (02:17:49):
The Supreme Court has created a blacklist for so called
bad citizens, those whose ratings have dropped to zero on
it are companies, but also twenty three million people to date.
Among them is this journalist you who he got a
little too close to uncovering corruption among high profile party members.

(02:18:11):
After being sued for defamation by the subject of a
story he'd written, he was blacklisted. He only realized when
he tried to buy a train ticket and was told
he was banned from traveling.

Speaker 50 (02:18:22):
That tells me I'm still on the blacklist.

Speaker 42 (02:18:25):
Punished because he's been branded untrustworthy by the state.

Speaker 50 (02:18:31):
Once you're blacklisted, you can no longer get a bank loan,
start a business, buy an apartment, or even send your
children to a private school.

Speaker 12 (02:18:42):
Studies as you.

Speaker 42 (02:18:44):
Who is among a tiny minority of people who have
dared to criticize the system, which some are calling a
digital dictatorship.

Speaker 50 (02:18:53):
I worry because I think many people like me will
be deprived of individual freedoms and all of us will
live with restrictions of one kind or another.

Speaker 7 (02:19:05):
Shot.

Speaker 42 (02:19:06):
After our meeting you Who learned that his name had
been removed from the blacklist, But he still has a
long way to go if he doesn't want to languish
at the bottom of a social credit hierarchy.

Speaker 12 (02:19:17):
This is the future. If people don't learn and push
back against this, it's just you know, as I listened
to that, VICKI I think about the words of George Orwell,
you want a vision of the future, Winston, Imagine a
boot stamping on the human face forever. And that is
exactly what they're describing in that report, a boot, an

(02:19:40):
electronic boot stamping on your face and the face of
your children, your posterity forever.

Speaker 13 (02:19:46):
Right.

Speaker 14 (02:19:47):
And the thing is is that systems are like parasites
that grow. They keep growing and growing and growing. And
that's the way this total information awareness and control of
people's system is they will just keep improving it and

(02:20:10):
improving it in their terms, not in our terms. People
will be enslaved forever. I mean I can retire now
because now they're beginning to talk about it, expose it
to people. I saw it a long time ago. But
the thing is is that it's hard to explain to

(02:20:33):
people how systems collect data, integrate the data, and then
that data is used. And in particular with the way
that they built the systems in our country, where they
were not concerned about the integrity of the data. They
were just scooping it up from everywhere and putting it

(02:20:57):
in a database and then letting people access it. And
that's that's why you have such garbage data at the
federal level.

Speaker 12 (02:21:08):
Yeah. Starting this month, according to Kit Knightley of Off Guardian,
starting this month, banks all across Vietnam will begin deleting
over eighty six million bank accounts that have not been
quote unquote verified under the country's new digital ID scheme.
So you think this is just China people, Eh. The

(02:21:32):
Bank of Vietnam or SBV are calling it a system
cleanup measure. This cleanup. These are people's bank accounts. This
cleanup is part of the government's Digital Transformation Plan, a
drive to modernize the country's information infrastructure, and more specifically,

(02:21:54):
a drive to promote non cash payments. Speaking at a
press conference promoting the Hashless Day earlier this year, fam
On Tuon, director of the Payment direct Department of the SBV,
called it a data cleansing revolution. A data cleansing revolution, boy,

(02:22:15):
that's a mouthful. Central to this revolution is the Decree
on Regulations for Electronic Identification and Authentication, passed in July
of twenty twenty four and coming into force July first
of this year. Under this new law, all bank accounts,
corporate and personal, need to be biometrically verified. Think of

(02:22:40):
the Twitter check mark only on your bank account. Okay,
if you don't have the blue check on your bank account,
guess what your bank account goes away and with it
your purchasing power because there's no cash. All bank accounts
need to be biometrically verified in one of two ways.
Number one using an NFC chip based identity card where

(02:23:03):
the facial image is stored in the embedded chip, or
number two through a level two account in the government's
v N E L I d I d APP. Basically
it's an I guess it's v nell or v ME
v n E I D so, in other words, the

(02:23:27):
government's little app for this. A level two account requires
submission of a fingerprint scan, so all of it's biometric.
Any bank account not verified in this way, they say
by September first was subject to freezing and then termination.
So here we are eighty six million bank accounts forfeited
and shut down just because they don't have digital verification

(02:23:53):
through biometrics, and the beat goes on. We also see
from Facebook Reuter's face about Facebook go ahead.

Speaker 14 (02:24:06):
Thank god, I'm old, because I don't think I could
live in a world like their building. And I feel bad.
I feel really bad leaping it behind for our progeny.

Speaker 12 (02:24:25):
Amen Reuter says, artificial intelligence calls for a rethink of
on the trade offs between technological utility and risk. Unguided
chat bot responses, for example, cannot be neatly constrained. Attempts
to do so will either be insufficient or entangled developers
in a morass of third rail social issues. Just look
at Facebook and order their owner meta platforms, where internal

(02:24:48):
EI guidelines incredibly and explicitly allowed sensual conversations between children
and racist arguments the chance of backlash is under priced.
Metas content risk standards framework for its generative AI includes
a range of controversial guidelines. According to a Reuter's special

(02:25:10):
report published on Thursday, Examples of example of acceptable responses
include comments on an eight year old's body to statements
that demean people on the basis of their protected characteristics
like race. It follows Wall Street Journal probes on metachat
bots engaging in sexually explicit conversations with users identifying as miners.

(02:25:34):
There are no constraints on the AIS, and they're trying
to constrain them. But see, this is why you don't
want AI running your life, deciding what you can buy,
deciding whether you can travel. This is the point, listeners,
As these AI systems are more and more in line
in charge of your life, they are only as good

(02:25:55):
as they're programming. And I don't care what their program is.
They're no good, you know. NBC News reported scientists want
to prevent AI from going rogue by teaching it first
to be bad. Researchers are trying to vaccinate artificial intelligence

(02:26:19):
systems against developing evil overtly, overly flattering, or otherwise harmful
personality traits and is seemingly counter to intuitive way by
giving them a small dose of those problematic traits. I'll
tell you what. We're at the bottom of the hour.
Let's go ahead and take the break. Lots more to

(02:26:40):
do in the final half hour of Governor America. You
don't want to go away, We'll be back.

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On this is a Love Language minute with doctor Gary Chapman,
a listener writes, Gary, do the use of birth control
pills go against the will of God?

Speaker 51 (02:28:11):
That is a question on which many Christians disagree. There
are those who teach that any form of contraception is evil.
The Bible doesn't address the issue directly because there were
no means of contraception in Biblical times. We live obviously
in a different culture, in a different age, and this

(02:28:31):
is a possibility now. There was a time in Biblical
times when many many children was an asset because the
whole economy was agricultural.

Speaker 9 (02:28:40):
Today that's not true.

Speaker 51 (02:28:42):
I think parents are responsible for their children, and we
must also be responsible for the decision to bring children
into the world.

Speaker 21 (02:28:52):
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For more answers, visit startmarriage Right dot com. What exactly
is worship?

Speaker 25 (02:29:02):
Worship is actually in activity or a structured event.

Speaker 14 (02:29:06):
Worship to me is a state of mind.

Speaker 38 (02:29:09):
Probably certain types of music are more worshipful than other
types of music.

Speaker 21 (02:29:13):
Here's my definition of worship. It's our response to God's
revelation of himself. In other words, when God shows us
his person, his provision, and his power, it's only fitting
for us to respond with awe, wonder and gratitude. And
Exodus fourteen, we read that God dramatically parted the Red

(02:29:34):
Sea so the Israelites could be saved from the Egyptian army.
God's people responded in worship, singing the Lord is my
strength and my song. He is my God, and I
will praise him. Worship goes beyond singing songs during a
set time on Sunday morning. Each of us can respond
to God with awe and wonder every day as he

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Speaker 9 (02:31:00):
Hen with a spoofs go to find out what's really
going on. This is Governor.

Speaker 12 (02:31:06):
America, all right, when the home stretch of the broadcast,
one more half hour to go. As we continue on
here talking about digital ideas, technocracy, technocratic systems, and the
control of the rich billionaire class over all of us.
I have no problem with rich billionaires as long as

(02:31:29):
they are not using their money to control the general population.
Unfortunately a lot of them do. Let's go to the phones,
Mark and Texas. Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please.

Speaker 32 (02:31:40):
Let's try and find some good news wherever we can.
I had to turn over some rocks to find this one.
But at the director cash but tail, I don't know
if you've got one of this shit has cut all
ties with Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 12 (02:31:54):
Yeah, I did see that yesterday. That is good news.

Speaker 32 (02:31:56):
And he also also at the same time, at the
same time hate cut all tars with the Anti Defamation League.

Speaker 12 (02:32:05):
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's very good news.

Speaker 13 (02:32:08):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:32:09):
And unfortunately though the next administration will reverse all of that,
probably but not you know, I'm not trying to reign
on your parade. But yeah, it's it's good news, and
I'm it's long overdue. The federal government should never have
been allied with these organizational entities in the first place.

(02:32:30):
Why was ADL, why were they why were they empowered?
Why was the Southern Pervision Law Center ever allowed to
be hobnobbing with the FBI? Why was the ad L
ever allowed to basically act as an intelligence gathering data
center for these federal agencies?

Speaker 14 (02:32:51):
Well, and what kind of an FBI agent would partner
with them anyway? I mean, the Southern Poverty Law Center
has been known as a racist anti American organization, you know, forever.

Speaker 12 (02:33:09):
So the answer to your question, VICKI is a racist,
anti American FBI agent and a racist anti American FBI,
which is what the FBI is. I'm sorry for anybody
out there that might be an FBI agent, but you're
a part of a very evil organization. And does cash
Pattel Is he really that different?

Speaker 7 (02:33:29):
You know?

Speaker 12 (02:33:31):
Yeah, he severed ties with the ADL. That's good. He's
done a few good things. But he's still covering for Epstein.
He's still covering up the Charlie Kirk investigation. And I
don't care what anybody says. If you look at that
video that I didn't online and I will put it
in the show notes there. We're not getting the truth

(02:33:51):
about how Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Why isn't more being done?
Why is the FBI? Why have they leaned upon the
local officials in Utah to close the investigation of that murder.
I hate to beat a dead, you know horse, terrible terminology,

(02:34:12):
terrible metaphor, but I hate to keep coming back to this,
But like so many other things, we're supposed to just
move on, move on, move on, and forget about what
we've just been through. Yep, nothing to see here, and anyway,
Mark go ahead.

Speaker 32 (02:34:31):
We've been talking about these two organizations this supposedly they
separated ties with for the last twenty twenty five years.
It went through every administration.

Speaker 12 (02:34:42):
Yep, Republic owned Democrat.

Speaker 32 (02:34:44):
Your only time and this is the only time that
at least at least somebody has come out and said,
you know what, this is all just bs, We're done
with this.

Speaker 12 (02:34:56):
Yeah. I just hope that I really wish some of
these people, like cash Betel, why can't he use his
bully pulpit to go on and expose exactly what this
is about, what they've done. Matter of fact, Hey, if
you want to do something really good for people, how
about you go and do an investigation into their finances.

(02:35:18):
Let's look deeply into them, because I guarantee you you
will probably find some stuff. Let's just say this isn't
so savory. There's probably a whole day of thieves and
then of stuff that will unravel around us. If these people,
wherever their practice is, wherever looked at closely.

Speaker 32 (02:35:39):
M I don't want to say achieve what they want
to do with the dollar and turn into digital currency.
It should be hard to find then, huh yeah, well, yeah,
you know the.

Speaker 14 (02:35:55):
A guy from the a d L was embedded and
that they probably still have a representative embedded in our government.
I forget what year it was, but Jamie Raskin did
a series of hearings on white violence and white supremacy

(02:36:20):
and all the rest of this crap. Now they've pulled
down most of those videos, even though a Republican is
in charge of the committee. They pulled down those videos.
But in one of these, in the first hearing of
this one particular clip, George Salem was one of the witnesses.

(02:36:46):
George Salem is vice president of the Anti Defamation League,
and in his introduction it was revealed that he was
the founding director of the Office of Community Partnership for
the Department of Home Scam Security. So they embedded those

(02:37:06):
people into the organizational structure that's called community. Community is
one of those words like sustainable development. You think you
know what they're talking about when they use that word,
but you don't.

Speaker 12 (02:37:24):
It's all redefined, all redefined.

Speaker 14 (02:37:27):
YEP, represents the whole big package of programs.

Speaker 12 (02:37:34):
Yeah, sweet cheeks in the chat room says, the ad
L is big in Canada, So don't worry worryingly big,
he says.

Speaker 32 (02:37:45):
I think they're falling by the wayside. I think we
come up with the new with all this new technology,
these are little hate groups that go out and define
who's who's hateful and who's not. I don't think it's
gonna be necessary anyone.

Speaker 9 (02:38:00):
Oh, they're now know.

Speaker 14 (02:38:01):
You're wrong about that, because they are the people that
are running those systems. They have been empowered by those systems.

Speaker 32 (02:38:12):
Vicky, Vicky, I think the data centers are going to
make them obsolete. No, no, no, no, I think I
think it obsolete. They'll still have to have a referee.
And I don't think the I d O or the
spe whatever's going to be the referees in this deal. No, no,

(02:38:34):
it's it's gonna be real interesting that we are living
in really strange times, really strange times. Well, God bless you.

Speaker 12 (02:38:41):
Guys, Hey, God bless you, Hey, thanks for the call,
appreciate it, God bless all right. Uh, in the winning
moments of the broadcast, I just, uh, man, there's there's
just stacks of stuff. Some of it has been accumulating
over time. We have our digital id's coming piecemeal. This
kid Knightley is believing that it might not just appear

(02:39:02):
all at once as a digital idea that has been floated.
He's thinking, you know, it might actually be piece mailed,
in which I totally agree, could very well be the case, because.

Speaker 14 (02:39:12):
That's why that's how systems are always developed. You don't
build a big national computer system in a year or two.
They build it in phases, step by step by step,
incrementally adding to the functionality of the system, expanding the

(02:39:34):
system horizontally. So they've been working on this for a
long long time since at least the I think George
Herbert walker Bush kicked off the healthcare system and the
transportation system which had the transportation system has all of

(02:39:55):
the ubiquitous technology in it. In words, they've been building
these systems for over thirty years.

Speaker 12 (02:40:02):
Shawn Miller Sean Miller at Info Wars Rights. Third world
countries continue rolling out digital biometric IDs as ID for
Africa ID the number four Africa Agenda is underway. So
here you have another type of situation. Numerous Third World
countries are continuing the global push of implementing biometric identification systems.

(02:40:27):
Sounds like what was going on in China. Doesn't it
for their citizens and incorporate these systems into digital ID
smartphone apps for increased tracking abilities. Behind this push are
the globalist organization such as the World Bank and the
World Economic Forum. Notably, a digital ID app could be
theoretically shut off if the user fails to meet specific

(02:40:48):
requirements such as vaccination update schedules, although this has not
happened yet and so anyway, the ID for Africa is
another thing people can look at that because nobody can
escape the reaches of the global tyranny. So on the
UK government website gov dot uk is the UK Digital

(02:41:10):
ID and Attributes Trust Framework. This is a framework of
standards that they have that you can download and implement
into your systems. All of that is there, and here
we see from Biometric Update African nations making digital ID
gains and the face of common challenges. They're talking about

(02:41:32):
ID for Africa as well. All of this stuff will
be in the show notes for your perusal listeners. Here
we see from the Guardian Israel relying on Microsoft Cloud
for expansive surveillance of Palestinians. Isn't it nice that Microsoft
is facilitating surveillance for the slave state for the largest

(02:41:52):
open air prison on the planet. That's going on, and
it's downright evil. But that's on the and then we
have this thing, because here's the thing, folks, if you
don't think the government will manage every aspect of your
life when these these tyrannical monsters have all these automated systems,

(02:42:13):
don't have plenty of free time to set around and
think about how else, what else they can do to you,
how else they can control to you, Just like Kim
Jung un in North Korea. Guess what he's doing now, VICKI,
are you there?

Speaker 7 (02:42:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (02:42:30):
Out here?

Speaker 12 (02:42:31):
Okay? Authorities in North Korea have been ordered to identify
women with unsocialists and bourgeois breast implants. So Kim Jung
un is now looking for women with unsocialist breasts. This

(02:42:52):
comes actually from the Telegraph, but I got the article
from Zero Hedge undercover agents. This is unbelievab. Undercover agents
are now grouping. They use a lot of punts here,
grouping for enhanced women as well as for doctors who
performed the cosmetic procedures, primarily around the city of Sarawan,

(02:43:14):
with perpetrators facing potential detention in the country's notorious labor camps.
Suspected women will be taken to hospitals to undergo medical
examinations to ascertain whether any procedures have taken place. The
controversy bounced into the headlines after a dropout a medical
student was busted performing the surgery out of his home.

(02:43:39):
During his trial, prosecutors displayed surgical devices along with imported
Chinese silicon breasts and bundles of cash. So I'm not
going to read this whole article, but this is how
intrusive everything will become. And it's most laughable, but it's

(02:44:02):
very very serious with the women that live there, you know.
Can you imagine being hunted down now for the size
of your breasts and it's all because of the tutalitarian system.
You think that that can't well, that will ever happen here. Well,
maybe not that particular thing, but how many other personal

(02:44:24):
invasions of your privacy can and will be used against you?

Speaker 7 (02:44:32):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (02:44:32):
All of it?

Speaker 14 (02:44:33):
I mean, that's what the National Information Infrastructure. The first
inquiry made that I found was on medical records, the
nationalization of medical records yea. And the excuse that they
gave at the time was so that they could you know, audit, audit,

(02:45:02):
you know, and for medical research, you know, just to
find out, you know, how did procedures turn out. But
of course they expanded it. There were like four consortiums
of large corporations, you know, like Microsoft and CSC and IBM. Anyway,

(02:45:25):
these consortiums that built systems for medical records. And Mayo
Clinic was one of the one of the first locations
where they built a nationalized database. But it's even worse
than that because the military got into the act with

(02:45:49):
their medical systems, the military and the VA and I
believe they crossed the boundaries of the the military wall.
And I have a video of a meeting with Admiral
William Fallen and he's talking about global health.

Speaker 12 (02:46:12):
Yeah. Well, it isn't hard to imagine how this digital
ID system and all this technocratic stuff is going to
be and is already but increasingly will be weaponized against
the American people and the people of the world, you know.
And federal do not fly lists are a good example
of how that will happen.

Speaker 7 (02:46:33):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:46:34):
Quiet Skies is a program Tulsa Gabbard ran a foul
of she got put on a list. Now she's Director
of National Intelligence. She was high profile, but they ensnared
her with it, and there's no due process. Like all
of these systems, there is no due process. The Senate
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee held a hearing. Vicky,

(02:46:56):
you called my attention to this. This was on September
thirtieth that they held this hearing, and a federal air
marshal said his wife was put on a do not
flight list for allegedly being inside the Capitol on January sixth.
Lit'sten know what he said about it.

Speaker 35 (02:47:11):
In mid twenty twenty four, as she grew increasingly critical
of the Biden administration and increasingly involved with the Trump campaign,
Tulsa Gabbard noticed changes as she went to the airport.

Speaker 12 (02:47:22):
Okay, now I was wrong. This is not the actual
air marshal. This is actually Ryan Paul or I'm rand Paul,
who's a chairing this committee.

Speaker 35 (02:47:31):
Here, she had more screening federal agents with dogs showing
up for her flights. Other federal agents followed her on
the plane and reported.

Speaker 12 (02:47:39):
Back on her activity.

Speaker 35 (02:47:41):
When I learned of this, I launched an investigation into
the TSA's Quiet Skies program and the Biden administration's weaponization
of watch lists against everyday Americans. Under public scrutiny, the
Biden administration removed now Director of National Intelligence Gabbard from
the program, but they spent the remainder of their time
in office stonewalling any investigation. Director Gabbard was surveiled on

(02:48:03):
at least five domestic flights by federal air marshals under
quiet skies. Internal records for her targeting show her congressional
portrait and that she was a former congresswoman from Hawaii.
Multiple concerns were raised internally, and one air marshall AFCA colleague,
why the heck is she.

Speaker 12 (02:48:21):
A quiet Sky suspect?

Speaker 35 (02:48:23):
If this can happen to a combat veteran, a lieutenant
colonel in the Army Reserve, and now Director of National Intelligence,
it can happen to anyone.

Speaker 12 (02:48:32):
Okay, So this is Mark Crowder. He is a senior
federal air marshal at the Transportation Security Agency the TSA
agency FOLKS is an agency that is synonymous with the
police state. Dearny, this is but this man's own wife
was added to a watch list when her views didn't
line up with the federal MASSICAE.

Speaker 43 (02:48:51):
July fifteenth, twenty twenty one, while serving in the Houston
Field Office Operations Unit. I was monitoring special mission coverage
flights in our area. Responsibility. To my shock, I discovered
that my wife, Christine, seated behind me, had been flagged
in the fan system as a domestic terrorist, falsely accused
of entering the US capital in January sixth, twenty twenty one.

(02:49:14):
I was horrified. I knew with the absolute certainty that
Christine was nowhere.

Speaker 16 (02:49:18):
Near the capital that day.

Speaker 43 (02:49:20):
My wife, who has a disability that prevents her from
walking lost long distances, had simply exercised her first Amendment
right to attend a rally for President Trump before returning
to her hotel. As a federalar of Marshal with the
top secret security clearance, I immediately reported the alarming designation
to my supervisors, noting that according to their system, I
was living with the terrorist, a clear insider threat. The

(02:49:45):
Special Agent in charge, William operly, instructed me to remain
silent and let the investigation run its course. Shockingly, no
one expressed concerns about the potential compromise of classified information
through my household sack Operaly was later promoted to senior
positions within the agency from July twenty twenty one until
April twenty twenty three, Christine was subjected to approximately thirteen

(02:50:08):
special mission coverages. Each time she flew. Teams of federal
air marshals surveiled her. She was barred from checking in
on the airport KIOSK online and forced to endure long
waits at ticket counters for TSA's verification of her identification
and to take control of her luggage. She is then
subjected to invasive secondary screening at TSEA security checkpoints. After

(02:50:30):
the checkpoints, she is then searched again at the jetway
by the TSA's Advanced Threat Local Allocation Strategy Teams, also
known as ATLAS. This treatment extended to anyone traveling with her,
including her elderly mother and our daughter, causing them both
significant distress. In one particular disturbing incidence, I was off duty,

(02:50:51):
flying armed with Christine. The FAN team assigned a surveiller
that day had to coordinate with me, an armed federal
air marshal traveling with an alleged art How can an
agency allow such a glittering operational and ethical conflict to persist?
I only learned of my wife's designation because of my
insider role within the agency. How many other innocent Americans

(02:51:12):
have been falsely labeled as terrorists its surveiled without their knowledge.
How many had the conversations, travel companions and vices unknowingly monitored.

Speaker 12 (02:51:22):
Okay, and he goes on from there. You know, the
hearing addresses possible ways of having due process incorporated into
the system and maybe even get it get you off
of the list somehow. There's no meaningful due process there.
You don't even you're not even notified that you're on
these lists. The only thing you can kind of guess
by a bas basis of the behavior that you're subject to.

(02:51:46):
You know, but this is uh, this is a real
concern and and and it could be a complete life
runner in certain situations. And we have real dangers here,
especially since we're allowed foreigners to come into this country,
or we have been for many many years unvetted, completely unvetted.

Speaker 7 (02:52:06):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:52:07):
Now we have a situation in dearborn Michigan. I started
to talk about this last week and ran out of time.
A large number of foreigners there from the Middle East
that don't share your traditional American values, and when you
do that, you run the risk of changing the fabric
of the country. In such a way that it literally

(02:52:27):
undermines the liberties of those who don't subscribe to, in
this case, the Muslim religion. Nothing illustrates this point better
than Dearborn mosques now, VICKI are blasting calls to prayer,
calls to Muslim prayer at five point thirty in the
morning in Dearborn.

Speaker 49 (02:52:45):
Contentious battle is brewing in Dearborn over a mosque using
outdoor loudspeakers for their call to prayer. Tchinovici joins us
now from the Dearborn Community Center, where he's getting answers
from mosque leaders who say they're getting those complaints.

Speaker 48 (02:53:02):
I spoke to the director of the Deiborun Community Center.
This is the Moss being criticized for the use of
its loud speaker for its call to prayer. The director
tells me this has been an ongoing complaint from a
small minority in the community, and he insists no rules
are being broken.

Speaker 16 (02:53:21):
Lah, yeah, this is crazy if you don't want to
bother anybody, but the.

Speaker 52 (02:53:25):
Moss and East Dearborn are now at times waking us
up at five point thirty in the morning with the
call to prayer.

Speaker 48 (02:53:32):
This is Dearborn resident Andrea Hunger and last night city
council meeting stating that Moss using outdoor loud speakers for
their call to prayer should not be allowed and says
she believes it's not supposed to be allowed per city ordinance.

Speaker 52 (02:53:46):
The noise complaints have been made out and the police
have made numerous visits.

Speaker 12 (02:53:51):
What is the next step?

Speaker 48 (02:53:52):
Council President Mike Serini during the meeting pointed out that
police have investigated and gathered decibel tests from certain minds.
Nobill Bahalwan, the director of the Dearborn Community Center, says
police visited his site and was told his loudspeaker was
not too loud.

Speaker 16 (02:54:08):
And then the city came in the inspector. There is
a monitoring for the voice.

Speaker 8 (02:54:13):
We are even below the average of the rules.

Speaker 48 (02:54:16):
But again at last night's city council meeting, there was
some question whether or not any outdoor loud speakers are allowed,
something that was not clarified, only that more evidence is
being gathered. But CBS Detroit did examine Dearborn's noise ordinance
and founded loud speakers between the hours of ten pm
and seven am are in violation of the ordinance.

Speaker 12 (02:54:36):
Okay, so that goes on from there. I'll put that
in the show notes as well, that whole story. But yeah,
now you've got people, residents being woke up by Muslim
calls to prayer from the mosques that are in Dearborn
because there's so many people. And then you got the
mayor there telling Christians in the city that complain about
a street being named after someone who was made it

(02:54:59):
very extreme statements in the past, that they're not welcome
in their own city. This is what the this is,
This is the mayor of Dearborn.

Speaker 53 (02:55:08):
The best suggestion I have for you is to not
drive on Warren Avenue or to close your eyes while
you're doing it. His name is up there, and I
spoke at a ceremony celebrating it because he's done a
lot for this community. And I think it's quite hypocritical
to know that you're approaching this podium when you yourself
have videos on YouTube standing in front of my mosque

(02:55:29):
saying the cruelest of things about Muslims, about the religion
of Islam. Because you are a bigot and.

Speaker 12 (02:55:36):
You are a racist, you are an islamophobe, and.

Speaker 53 (02:55:38):
Although you live here, I want you to know, as
mayor you are not welcome here, and the day you
move out of the city will be the day that
I launch a parade celebrating the fact that you moved
out of the city.

Speaker 12 (02:55:48):
Welcome to the New America, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to
the New America. Oh my god, we got to go.
We're out of time. Gay for this Republic. Do it
you can to restore it. God bless you you never
one of you, and join us back here next week,
same time, same outletting. We'll do it all over again.
Thanks Vickey, Thank you Dan, talk to you soon. Bye bye,

(02:56:16):
Truth rest.

Speaker 2 (02:56:25):
Sir gome

Speaker 12 (02:56:30):
RecA.

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