Govern America | September 13, 2025 | Orgy of Ghouls - Govern America

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new world.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment to cease. The cleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Us, a new world order, a world where.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
The United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision
of its founders.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape is
so that the problem of the pot renidentity will be
the emergence of a new international order the first.

Speaker 6 (00:40):
Decade of the twenty first century. But out of what
will be feels the greatest restructuring of the global economy,
greatest restructuring of the global economy, greatest restructuring of the
global economy, a new world order.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
What's created.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
Documenting the crisis of our rebell.

Speaker 8 (00:58):
The very word secrecy repugnant in a free and open society.
And we are as a people inherently and historically opposed
to secret societies, the secret oaths and the secret.

Speaker 9 (01:12):
Proceedings waging war on the new world order.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 10 (01:17):
We must guard again the acquisition of unwanted influence, whether
sought or unsought by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 7 (01:27):
This is Governor America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 11 (01:41):
This means war.

Speaker 12 (01:43):
That is where we are. We are at war with
these people. These folks are evil. There is an ultra
right mega contention in this country that wants to overthrow
the US government.

Speaker 13 (01:56):
It is a.

Speaker 14 (01:56):
Danger to our democracy, It is a danger to our.

Speaker 15 (02:00):
Way of life.

Speaker 16 (02:01):
The Mega movement is a threat the extremists that we're
dealing with every single day.

Speaker 11 (02:05):
We've got to kill and confront that movement.

Speaker 17 (02:07):
Clearly, you know this is am literally call to arms.

Speaker 14 (02:13):
Obviously, Republicans, I think are the biggest threat to democracy.
We don't separate right wing extremists and Republican Party anymore.

Speaker 18 (02:19):
I see this as a party, a mega party that
no longer is confident that they can win elections with votes,
and so now they're seeking to enact their political will
through violence.

Speaker 12 (02:30):
This is literally what conservative white folks do when they
don't get their way, they turn violent.

Speaker 13 (02:35):
It is GP's no longer a political movement. It is
a fascist movement.

Speaker 16 (02:39):
And this is why it could be more dangerous than
eighteen sixty or the nineteen thirties.

Speaker 17 (02:43):
Clearly, you know this is am literally call to arms.

Speaker 9 (02:49):
Maybe now it is all about the violence.

Speaker 13 (02:51):
It all is about an insurrection.

Speaker 19 (02:54):
It all is in his mind about a civil war.

Speaker 14 (02:57):
It feels like we are not just at the brink
of a of a war, but that one has already begun.

Speaker 20 (03:02):
The fact that the basics getting smaller it makes it
more dangerous in a lot of ways, because those are
the people who are willing to do things like take
up arms and press the questions that lead to press
the questions and tactics that lead to civil war.

Speaker 16 (03:13):
This is someone who held that office who was basically
saying to Americans there should be civil war.

Speaker 9 (03:19):
Look at what he's doing last night. As you note that,
you know, more or less salutes.

Speaker 21 (03:25):
That are either QAnon are almost looked like Naziism.

Speaker 22 (03:29):
You saw the rally in Ohio the other night. Trump
is there ranting and raving for more than an hour,
and you have these rules of young men with their arms.

Speaker 12 (03:41):
Raised, these crazy, deranged folks who want to employ evil
in every facet of our society.

Speaker 11 (03:47):
Clearly you know this is a literally.

Speaker 23 (03:51):
Call to arms, and welcome back to ABC News Live.
We continue to follow the breaking news conservative political activist
Charlie Kirk has been shot by at an event in Utah.
Utah Valley University posting an alert saying a single shot
was fired on campus toward a visiting speaker and that
the suspect is in custody. We know that speaker now,

(04:13):
Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA.

Speaker 9 (04:16):
CNN bridging news.

Speaker 20 (04:20):
We have breaking news to CNN. A source tells CNN
that Trump ally and the founder of Turning Points USA,
Charlie Kirk, was shot at an event on a college
campus in Utah, and.

Speaker 24 (04:30):
The extent of Kirk's injuries at this point are not
immediately clear.

Speaker 13 (04:34):
Let's talk now with CNN's Kristen Holmes.

Speaker 24 (04:37):
We have CNN Political director David Challion with us as well.

Speaker 25 (04:40):
Kristin what can you tell.

Speaker 15 (04:42):
Us breonn and Broth.

Speaker 26 (04:45):
I want to be very clear, I cannot tell you
that much right now because this is.

Speaker 15 (04:48):
A very fluid situation.

Speaker 26 (04:50):
People are still trying to figure out the details, the
extent of the injury and what exactly unfolded on that
Utah campus. As we have reported, Charlie Kirk is a
close ally of President Trump's, not only that he is
somebody who helped him get elected this cycle. He is
often seen here at the White House. He runs Turning
Point USA, which is a youth organization where he's tried

(05:12):
to galvanize thousands of voters Republican voters. He's also a
controversial figure at times. He goes into these various college campuses,
pushes conservative issues, gets into back and heated back and
forth often with these students on these college campuses. But
of course none of that is violent. This is the

(05:34):
first time we've seen this kind of reaction obviously, so
what we know right now, everyone is monitoring the situation.
He was shot during this event on this Utah campus,
and they are still unclear what exactly the extent of
those injuries is. There are a lot of videos circulating

(05:56):
right now on social media that are showing the crowds
running away after gunshots went off. But again, we are
still going through all of this and talking to sources
to figure out what exactly happened and how Kirk is
doing at this time.

Speaker 13 (06:10):
From FEMA Regions five and ten, this is Governor America
on during weeks. Vicki Davis is here as well. Welcome
to the broadcast, Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to
be one of those events in history that we are
going to remember, I think, for the rest of our life.
I think everybody will remember where they were, just like

(06:32):
you know, an event like the jfk assassination or you
know other things in history that were monumental nine to eleven.
I think people will remember where they were at the time,
how they heard the news. This is a terrible, devastating blow,
in my opinion, to the freedom movement. Charlie Kirk. Whether

(06:54):
you agree with him or not on everything, and I
certainly didn't agree with him on everything, but there is
no doubt that he was a force for good in
terms of cutting through the cultural Marxist indoctrination on our
college campuses, our universities, and that is an enormous, an

(07:18):
enormous loss that our movement has experienced this week. I think,
I don't know. I believe I speak for a lot
of people. There's no question that I speak for a
lot of people when I think when I say that
this week has been a week of mourning, I felt
it every day. I felt the grief from this as

(07:44):
if it were my own family member. That's how weighty
this is, this loss of Charlie Kirk. Good morning, VICKI,
Good morning.

Speaker 15 (07:56):
Yeah. I feel the same way. I mean, I just
I couldn't believe, you know, that they actually shot him.
And if we've reached the point in this country where
you can't discuss ideas, this isn't America anymore. Yeah, there's

(08:20):
been a kurta and you know, these these people, the
Marxists and the Communists and the Islamists have taken over
our country and none of those groups believe in free
speech or the discussion of ideas.

Speaker 13 (08:43):
Right. We have a guest coming on at the bottom
of the hour talk about security, Mike Harville. He is
a security expert. He's going to be talking a little
bit about this whole Kirk assassination. I think it's a terrible,
terrible situation, and uh so we're gonna be discussing that

(09:03):
some throughout the show, and also with this gentleman, uh
Mike Harville, because ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, we are in
a war and I don't want to call people to arms.
That's not my intention here. We have to keep our
head about us. But this is where I'm afraid it's

(09:26):
headed I'm afraid we're headed toward a civil war in
our country. Uh huh, because people were already outraged at
the death of this Ukrainian refugee, Irena Zerutski, Zerutzka, excuse me,
Irena Zerutska. Remember, I don't know if you saw that information, VICKI. Uh.

(09:52):
She was stabbed uh in North Carolina, you know, by
this black guy who was right behind her. You know
here she came to this country. She fled Ukraine, and
you know my feelings about Ukraine. I don't think the
Ukrainian government is on the right side of that issue,

(10:14):
and certainly the United States isn't on the right side
of that issue. That was a war that shouldn't ever
have happened. That was a war that was fought over NATO.
It was NATO being put on Russia's doorstep after the
United States promise that would never happen, and yet they did.
And part of the whole situation was they were overthrown.

(10:36):
They overthrew the government, the democratically elected government in twenty
fourteen of Ukraine. Viktor Yanikovich was overthrown and the US
State Department installed Hillary Clinton's State Department and Victoria Neulin.
You know, the Kagan family, the war hungry, war profiteering

(10:58):
Kagan family installed a replacement in Ukraine. And that was
why the dun Bass broke off, is because they didn't
want to live under the government that the United States
installed over there, and for that, Kiev began shelling the

(11:18):
dun Bass. They went to war against their own people
because their own people wanted to be to break away
from Ukraine. They didn't want to be a part of
Ukraine anymore. So that's the situation there, and it was
partly because of that is why Vladimir Putin finally, after

(11:40):
years and tens of thousands of people dying in the
dune Bass, he finally said enough is enough and invaded Ukraine.

Speaker 27 (11:48):
But it was.

Speaker 13 (11:51):
Only because of the provocation of the US State Department. Ultimately,
so they created a mess over there. And with every war,
as you point out, every war, there is always refugees.
And this woman was came over here. She's only twenty
three years old. She came over here. She fled the

(12:11):
violence in Ukraine in her home country, and only to
be killed here in the United States on a Charlotte,
North Carolina train by this monster who had been released
from court like fourteen times. All she did was come
aboard this train after her shift at a pizzeria, sat

(12:35):
in front of this monster who a judge had released
fourteen times. God knows how many other people he's victimized,
but it must have been at least fourteen. And he
stabbed her. I guess he stabbed her in the neck.
And she sat there sobbing until she bled out, nobody

(12:56):
helping her. So people were ticked, understandably, they were ticked.
And I mean I remember telling my wife that this
is something that is blowing up. I mean, I'm really
concerned that this is going to be I mean I
was already thinking that, you know, there could be a

(13:17):
civil war. This could be like the uh, the shot
across the ballot, you know, the shot heard, the stabbing,
the victimization heard around the world. It could be the
catalyst for something big. And then right the same week,
all of a sudden, Charlie Kirk gets shot in the neck.

Speaker 27 (13:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (13:38):
Well, there's no no question. We're on the edge of it,
and I'm not sure that there's any way out of it,
you know, because the two sides are rock solid, one
side being the American patriot it's that want borders, that

(14:02):
want American sovereignty, and then there are the globalists who
want world government and no sovereignty.

Speaker 13 (14:16):
You know.

Speaker 15 (14:16):
So I don't see any way out of that. And
I found a video. I didn't have time to get
it to you for you to watch it, but there
is a video that I will put in the show notes,
and the title of it is called Betrayal of a Nation.

(14:39):
Soros's NATO World Order and what it is. It's General
Mike Flynn, and he does the most honest and brief
summary of the global situation that I've ever heard out
of the mouth of any public official. And so I'm

(15:05):
saying it's a really important one to listen to because
I didn't really realize the extent to which NATO is
behind all of this. NATO went rogue.

Speaker 13 (15:20):
Yeah, well, I think NATO was rogue to begin with.
NATO shouldn't have never really been. You know. The whole
point of NATO was to contain the Soviet Union. Yeah, yeah,
the Soviet Union's long gone. So why do we still
have a NATO. I believe we have a NATO because

(15:41):
they want to have a world army, a world military.

Speaker 15 (15:45):
Oh sure, of course, global troops. So a world government
has to have a world army.

Speaker 13 (15:52):
Right, Yeah, and this should concern everybody at a time
when Donald Trump now is rolling troops into the cities.
We'll talk more about that as time progresses, because that
plan is moving forward. But they're saying that the person
that shot Charlie Kirk is this young twenty something named

(16:14):
Tyler Robinson, and that it's pretty interesting. Trump is saying that,
you know, and he made this announcement. What was it yesterday?
They all the days just kind of blur together. I
think it was yesterday. On Fox and Friends, he described
how the assassin's alleged assassin's own father told him it

(16:37):
was time to turn himself in.

Speaker 28 (16:38):
And somebody that was very close to him said, hmm,
that's him, and essentially went to the father and went
to a US marshall who was fantastic, by the way,
and the person was involved with law enforcement, but was
a person of faith, a minister, and brought him to

(17:00):
a US marshal who was fantastic, and the father convinced
the son and this is it.

Speaker 13 (17:07):
And again I'm always subject.

Speaker 28 (17:08):
To be corrected, but I'm just giving you based on
what I'm hearing, they'll give you much more active. I
just heard about it five minutes before I walked in.
As I'm walking in, they said, looking real good. They
have the person that they wanted. So you have breaking news,
don't you.

Speaker 27 (17:27):
Huh?

Speaker 13 (17:27):
Okay. So I don't know exactly what happened. I do
have questions about the official story, and the big questions.
I see, number one, he had a big rifle, and
they showed the video of him jumping off the building
and it looked like he had some kind of backpack

(17:48):
or something with him. But I didn't see a rifle.
And some people are speculating, well, did he take it
apart he disassemble it. Maybe he did quickly. I don't know,
but it just seems kind of strange because they're saying
that the rifle was left off in the woods, and
they didn't say it was in pieces. They didn't say

(18:09):
it was taken apart. They said it was wrapped in
a towel.

Speaker 15 (18:12):
I guess, so I asked something like that.

Speaker 13 (18:15):
I got some questions about how he escaped undetected and
how he was able to pull all this off, and
that shot. The shot was this kid would have had
to been an excellent marksman to be able to pull
off a shot like that.

Speaker 29 (18:32):
That.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
When I first saw this whole thing, I told my
wife and I told other people that I work with.
I said, this has to be a professional hit.

Speaker 15 (18:42):
Well, not necessarily. I mean what I heard is that
the rifle was like a standard hunting rifle. Now, I
grant you, the bullets are pretty wicked, but it was
a weapon. If I'm right, it's a weapon that just
about every hunter in Idaho has in their closet.

Speaker 13 (19:06):
You have, but to pull off a shot like that
and you get it right the first time, it's just
absolutely amazing.

Speaker 15 (19:12):
People do practice to go hunting. I mean, you don't
want you don't want to gut shot a deer. You
want to hit him in the right place so that
you preserve all the meat. You know. Yeah, well, I
mean my dad and my brother and my cousin were hunters.
They would go out hunting every year, and before hunting

(19:33):
season they would go out and target practice.

Speaker 13 (19:36):
Yeah, let's go ahead and take a call real quick.
I can get back to what I'm saying. You know,
I can say what I'm saying anytime. Let me go
ahead and take a call from Kentucky. Hello, you're on
the air. Go ahead, please, Well.

Speaker 30 (19:49):
I want to psyche the source because I haven't found
the original source Mike Savage, who's kind of on the
apps with the Trump administration now for whatever reason, I
used to have access in the first term names there
was a report that I haven't found yet. FB I
did say that he took the rifle apart to get
off the building without the rifle being seen, and it

(20:10):
was in the backpack. Now, the rifle that's pictured, there's
not a quick breakdown tip version of the Cardiot six.
So there's a big thing that doesn't add up right there,
and there's other things. So that's all I'm chime in with.
You said, you don't necessarily believe the official story. In
course people look at that. You can find that report

(20:31):
that has vanished. Let's let's read, let's bicycle out, share
it out because that's an un congruent detail.

Speaker 13 (20:41):
Yeah, thank you for that. I appreciate it.

Speaker 15 (20:43):
I appreciate that because I I don't claim to know
all that much about guns. I really don't. I just know,
you know what I do.

Speaker 30 (20:58):
The older the older OT six that could disassemble, and
this was a single shot bolt action rival. There was
a very conspicuous locker ring on that barrel if I
remember right, and that then see you didn't see that
in the picture of the rifle in the cardboard box. So, uh,
at least the one that's been passed around. And people,

(21:19):
you need to cite your sources. Pretend you're a journalist
and cite your sources. Where did you get this picture?
You don't give us a dang link? Yeah, why don't
you get this report? Well, let's be better journalists as
citizen journalists.

Speaker 13 (21:31):
Amen.

Speaker 30 (21:32):
And that's about all that out for you.

Speaker 13 (21:34):
Thank hey, thank you, Mike, appreciate it. Good bless you, sir,
thank you. All right, Yeah, that's very helpful. And this
is why we put everything that we do in the
show notes, so that people can see where we're getting
our information and uh, if necessary, debunk it or at
least take a look at it and see where it's
coming from and decide, you know, decide what you think.

Speaker 15 (21:57):
But and and let me say, I I appreciate any
and all debunks. If you can prove me wrong on anything,
please do, because I don't. What I care about is
the truth.

Speaker 13 (22:10):
Yes, I that should be the goal for everyone.

Speaker 15 (22:14):
Yeah, my ego is not involved in this.

Speaker 13 (22:18):
Yeah, that should be the goal for everyone. And I'm
not trying to create conspiracies where none exists. If this
kid actually is guilty, you know, and certainly his father
seemed to I guess we're told his father turned him
in anyway, or convinced him to turn in. Certainly the
media is attempting to sanitize Tyler Robinson by declaring that

(22:41):
he had no party affiliation. But if you don't have
to be a member, you know, you don't have to
be a member of a political party to be a
radical leftist extremist either.

Speaker 31 (22:51):
What have we learned about twenty two year old Tyler
James Robinson, the man now accused of killing conservative activist
Charlie Kirk at an event on when Good morning.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

Speaker 31 (23:03):
According to public records and various news outlets, Robinson is
a Utah native who grew up with his parents and
two brothers. He attended high school in Utah before attending
Utah State University for a semester. He's currently a student
at Dixie Technical College in Utah. Voter records show he
had no declared political affiliation. His parents were registered Republicans.

(23:27):
Authority said a family member told them Robinson recently became
more political.

Speaker 32 (23:33):
The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson
came to dinner prior to September tenth, and in the
conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was
coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like
him and the viewpoints that he had.

Speaker 31 (23:50):
Authorities did not release a motive, but they cited evidence
of engravings on bullet casings.

Speaker 32 (23:57):
Inscriptions on a fired casing read notices bulge's capital, wo,
what's this question mark? Inscriptions on the three unfired casings
read hey fascist, exclamation point, catch exclamation point.

Speaker 13 (24:14):
Okay, there's more to that. I will get to that
here in a moment. I want to get to the
phones because we got the break coming up. Let's go
ahead and go to Georgia. I think this is art. Hello,
you're on the air, Go ahead, please.

Speaker 27 (24:28):
Hey guys, Yeah, I want to. During the previous show,
I talked about a potential solution that the government could take,
and I guess people took it the wrong way, thinking
I was calling for a police state. I'm not calling
for a police state. I'm calling for action. I'm calling
for people to do something. But what I called what

(24:50):
I really called in about, was the discussion about the rifle. Okay,
this was a bolt action thirty six. This is a
common hunting rifle, especially here in the Deep South. A
lot of people hunt with the thirty out six. This shot, supposedly,
they say, was a range of approximately two hundred yards.

(25:14):
Now for a seasoned hunter, For a seasoned hunter here
in the Deep South, two hundred yards is not an
unusual shot to take when you're going after a deer,
and hunters consistently make good, clean heart shots with a
thirty out six at two hundred yards. This is not

(25:35):
unheard of. Okay, So for this to happen. If this
young man was an avid hunter, then yes, I can
see him making a two hundred yard shot with a
bolt action thirty out six, a very common hunting rifle.

Speaker 13 (25:50):
Okay.

Speaker 27 (25:51):
That was my point for calling in, to clarify the
deal with the rifle, the range, how easy it is
to make this shot. I'm ex military. In the military,
you consistently train with your weapon, and you are taught
to make two hundred, two hundred and fifty three hundred

(26:11):
yard shots. Okay, not uncommon?

Speaker 13 (26:14):
All right, very good.

Speaker 27 (26:15):
When we look at this young man's father, this young
man's father was a sheriff's work for the Sheriff's department,
and I believe, I'm not sure yet because I haven't
been able to verify this. I think he's also ex military.

Speaker 13 (26:31):
I think I heard that too.

Speaker 27 (26:32):
And the reason he would have he would have trained
his son in how to use firearms.

Speaker 13 (26:38):
Okay, Oh, I'm not Yeah, you're gonna You're gonna have
to call back though, unfortunately, because I gotta run. I
got a break and then I gotta get a guest
on the line. But thank you for that. I appreciate it,
all right, all right, bye bye, all right, folks, we're
going to take a break and we come back. If
everything goes as planned, we should have Mike Harville joining
us here in just a moment.

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Speaker 13 (31:22):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is Governor America. The
website for the show is Governamerica dot com. That's Governamerica
dot com. Vicki's website is the Technocredit Tyranny dot com.
Joining us on the phone right now is Mike Harville.
He is a board member of the Faith Based Security
Network and is the security director at Kensington Church, a

(31:43):
multi campus church here in Michigan. He is also a
co founder and president of the Security Leaders Coalition in Michigan,
and he is an active violence emergency response training instructor
and regularly speaks to various organizations about church security. He's
joining us right now on Governor America. Hey, Mike, thank
you so much for being with us.

Speaker 30 (32:06):
Thank you for having.

Speaker 13 (32:07):
Me so, uh, what was your first reaction when you
heard about this assassination?

Speaker 37 (32:18):
A little bit of shock and a little bit of anger.

Speaker 15 (32:22):
Yeah, what do you think about them?

Speaker 37 (32:24):
Watch Charlie a little bit.

Speaker 13 (32:29):
Go ahead, VICKI I'm sorry.

Speaker 15 (32:31):
I was going to say, what what do you think
about them not having people on the roofs. It seems
that that, well, at least it's become a common theme.
And the thing is that even when we were doing
like protests march marches here in Idaho against the refugee

(32:55):
resettlement are when we had a march, the organizers had
people on the roofs to protect us. So I don't
understand why they weren't doing that.

Speaker 37 (33:13):
I'm going to start out with saying I don't criticize
people for how they plan their security details because I
wasn't there. I don't know what discussions were held. My
personal feeling, though.

Speaker 17 (33:28):
Is.

Speaker 37 (33:31):
Based upon the crowd size. I think they a little
bit more police presence might have been good. What I
think is going on today is we're seeing a change
in tactics. And this happens throughout history. When we catch
on to something, then they change their tactics. And right
now it looks to me like they're starting to take

(33:51):
a high location upon a roof or something, and me,
the best way to come back that is to put
up a drone. It doesn't require a lot of manpower,
it's relatively cheap. I think every law enforcement agency should
have a drone that when there's an event going on
in their jurisdiction, put they're drowne up and be looking
from above see if there's anything that's inappropriate, because I

(34:13):
think had they had a drone up, they could have
seen a guy on the roof, they could have immediately
called down, say get Charlie off the stage until we
figure out what's going on.

Speaker 13 (34:22):
Yeah, what seems to be apparent to me as I
look at this whole situation, the more buildings you have around,
the more difficult it is to secure a venue. You know,
I know, I think back to the Butler Pennsylvania situation.
You know where you had at least one person I
think maybe even to die. You know where they took
a shot at Trump from a building from a roof

(34:45):
and the Secret Service hadn't secured the roof. You know,
they had a director there, as I recall, that was
pretty inept and said that they didn't like rooftops. Very bizarre.
But regardless of that day, after that Butler Pennsylvania thing,
they mostly were help holding events in a in an

(35:06):
open field. It seems like the more buildings that you
have around and this would have been I think even
for the Secret Service, uh kind of a security nightmare,
the potential for a there's a lot of windows, there,
a lot of places where somebody could hide, you know.
Erica Kirk came out Charlie's wife, Charlie's widow and said

(35:31):
that they're moving forward with turning point events in the future.
I guess my question is, how could venues like this?
It would it be wise to continue holding them in
places where there's a lot of buildings around, a lot
of places that potentially a potential assassin could hide that

(35:55):
you know, these things are notoriously hard to secure. What
do you think about all of this?

Speaker 37 (36:03):
Well, I agree, when you have the buildings, it does
become increasingly difficult, and indoor venues are much easier to protect. However,
as I say that, I think if you have eyes
in the sky where you can look down and you
can see several buildings at one time, then it's easier
to secure the tops of the buildings, and I think

(36:28):
really that's about the best way to handle it because
again requires less manpower. It's an inexpensive way to go,
but it can be very effective.

Speaker 13 (36:39):
Yeah, I'm wondering how do you protect, let's say, because
you're in charge of protecting houses of worship, and I'm
wondering how you would a political rally differ that much
from protecting say a church from somebody coming in an
assailant that would come in from outside.

Speaker 37 (37:06):
Typically, the only difference is if you have somebody in
a situation with a typical church shooting where they're just
against the ideals of that religious group that they're attacking,
they'll they'll come in and they may shoot at somebody
in particular or I'm let.

Speaker 30 (37:26):
Me take that back there.

Speaker 37 (37:27):
They're they're going to be shooting at random. They don't
really care who they shoot, whereas there could be situations
where a particular pastor or somebody that they're upset with.
In a situation like that, really there is no difference
because it's the individual that they're after, it's not a
group of people. But when you look at the shooting

(37:50):
that happened in Las Vegas, guy was up high in
a hotel. He was just randomly shooting at anybody. He
didn't he didn't have anybody in particular that he wanted
to shoot at. So there's another outdoor ving you that
they were just shooting at random. So I think you
have to take into consideration who the target is. Is
it the people or is it an individual, and you

(38:12):
have to plan your strategy accordingly.

Speaker 13 (38:15):
Yeah, my brother in law passors at church and he
carries a firearm with him on Sunday and the pulpit
at all times. You can't be late to his church
because once the service begins, the doors are locked, so
demented individuals aren't able to wander in and start murdering people.
The bad part, of course, is that some people that

(38:36):
need salvation might not arrive on time and then they're
kind of locked out, So it's kind of a catch
twenty two. But I totally see his approach. I guess
the question is have we reached the time in America
where it's becoming unsafe for Conservatives and Christians to get
together in public without carrying a firearm or having security.

Speaker 37 (39:02):
I hope not. I'm hoping that the situation with Charlie
Kirk will help change the direction. I was talking with
another gentleman yesterday and his comment was, hopefully this is
a turning point using Charlie's organization, but hopefully this is

(39:24):
a turning point in our history in that maybe people
will wake up to what's really been going on and
hopefully we can start learning to talk and not resort
to violence. I don't it to me, it starts at
the top. And when you have people that are spewing

(39:44):
a lot of rhetoric to get up at arms and
have it uprising and go after people, there's idiots out there.
They're going to listen to that and take it seriously
and go do it. And we need for our leadership
in our government that quit telling people to go do
that stuff.

Speaker 13 (40:04):
Yeah. Yeah, Well that brings me to the question of
these demented guls. I don't know how many of these
videos you've seen online, but they're everywhere. There's a bunch
of demented guls who are celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.
And I mean, these are a bunch of unhinged individuals. So,

(40:26):
I mean, it seems like, and I hate to say it,
but it seems like we're headed towards civil war because
you can't negotiate with these types of people. You know,
the more you want to believe that they're they're they're
in the minority. But yet the internet's full of them.
So there's clearly a number of them, a massive number

(40:48):
of them. I don't know if the algorithm is algorithms
of the social media are just elevating these types of
individuals so that we're seeing more of it, or if
there is such a lot percentage of it. But what
do you make of these demented ghouls that are celebrating
and rejoicing and even I even saw a T shirt

(41:10):
where it had Charlie Kirk's picture drawn on it. They
were evidently selling these, and it had a hole in
his neck where he was bleeding out and his eyes
were kind of rolled back in his head, and at
the bottom it said debate this. I mean, you can't.
You can't negotiate with people who would do something like that.

(41:31):
What do you make of this?

Speaker 30 (41:36):
I think it's absolutely terrible.

Speaker 37 (41:39):
It's unfortunate that our society has come to that. Just
about an hour ago, I was on a video conference
call through through the Faith based Security Network the President
Carl Chen was talking about how back at nine to eleven,
this as recent as nine to eleven, and even the

(42:04):
bombing of the Murrah building in Oklaoba City. After those events,
we rallied together as a country and supported each other together.
And yet here we've got a major situation that's happened
and we're torn apart because we got people that are
celebrating the death of a good man who had not

(42:25):
done anything to hurt people. He was trying to bring
people together and he was trying to do it through
open dialogue. And I kind of look back at a
lot of the things that are going on in our country.
I think a lot of it is due to social media,
and I also attribute a lot of it to violent
video games. When you look at when a lot of

(42:47):
this all started, all of that together about the same time.
Because people play violent video games and they feel no armed,
they don't feel any remorse. It's a game. They don't
feel the true ramifications of taking a life.

Speaker 13 (43:05):
So you what you're saying is, it's kind of like
these graphics in these video games have become so realistic
that it's kind of desensitizing people to real life violence.
When it occurs exactly interesting.

Speaker 15 (43:23):
You know, I was wondering about that. I saw some
of the TikTok videos and I know that they made
I think it was China that had TikTok, but the
Trump administration made them divest themselves of TikTok, and I

(43:44):
thought they were going to shut it down, but they didn't.
They just you know, let it keep going. So what,
you know, it really accomplished nothing. I think it should
be shut down, totally agreed.

Speaker 13 (44:00):
Yeah, well, uh, what do you what do you what
do you think of these political leaders on the left
saying that violence has no place in America? I mean,
I commend them for condemning it, but they have been
they have been predominantly the ones that have been promoting
violence in America. We just started the show off, I
don't know if you heard it or not, with a
cold open where they it was a montage of these

(44:24):
people going forward and you know, pushing violence. Uh, you know,
using rhetoric that is inflammatory at best, you know. Uh,
And yet they have come out now and they're they're
condemning it conveniently. I think part of this is because
they're afraid that some of it might you know, backfire

(44:45):
on them. Literally. I mean, I think some of them
might actually be in fear at this moment because there's
a lot of angry people on the right right now.
What do you think of that?

Speaker 37 (44:57):
I think that's exactly right. I think they're they're beginning
to finally realize what they've been doing. I honestly feel
when I when I saw playbacks or even heard playbacks
from several different a lot of different people, and it's

(45:18):
in our government. A lot of people in our government
that were saying things that can incite violence. And I
think that a lot of them are beginning to realize
now what they have done. And I hope they I
hope that's what's happening, because I firmly believe that's what's happened,
and because the people that are committing these acts tend

(45:43):
to side the people that are inciting should I say
this behavior now, Granted, when you look at the right,
there have been some lunatics on the right who have
done some things as well. It's not just sticking you know,
to what, It's not just one sided right, but overall,

(46:04):
I think we need to on both sides. We need
to be careful. Our government leaders need to be very
careful of what they're saying and realize what they say
has a huge effect on the people.

Speaker 13 (46:18):
Yeah. Yeah, well, especially since you got all these people
on these SSR eyes now, you know, you got a
number of people on psychotropic drugs, pharmaceutical prescriptions, and some
of this stuff really makes people nuts. You know, I
personally know people in my life who have their their
entire personality has changed, their entire mental abilities have changed,

(46:47):
they they're thinking processes. They you know, one person I
know in particular has become suicidal because of pharmaceutical drugs.
And another person I knew before who was no longer
with us, unfortunately, but this person actually became murderous and

(47:09):
actually had a knife to somebody's throat at one point
because of pharmaceutical drugs. So these these drugs are very,
very dangerous. Now. I don't know if this particular guy
who allegedly took this shot was on any kind of
SSRIs or pharmaceutical medications. That would be something that would

(47:32):
be worth investigating or finding out more about. But we
have a whole country full of crazies right now. People
that are highly medicated, people that are otherwise loose on
the streets that maybe shouldn't be and so so there's that.
And then you've got the universities and the media, especially

(47:53):
stirring the pot make calling people Nazis, calling people fascists,
and all kinds of other names. James, you know this,
this communist ideology being shoved down everyone's throat twenty four
to seven of these so called news networks. And and

(48:15):
I guess, is there a deeper ideological route that you
see driving these attacks on Christians and Conservatives? What's behind
all this?

Speaker 37 (48:25):
You think, Well, that is so hard to say because
when you look at active shooters, there is no one
set pattern. There's so many different demographics, their their backgrounds

(48:46):
with you know, their ideologies. It just there's no one
set pattern other than hate. I think Kate is the
one driver. And for some reason, people feel they have
to go to violence when they have that hatred. You know,
when you have a shooter come into a church. There

(49:07):
after the religious aspect and because they don't agree with
that particular religion. You know, that's the reason why unfortunately,
the Faith based Security Network exists to help churches with
security teams to help protect the people from these people
that might come in.

Speaker 13 (49:27):
Yeah, what do you think are as Christians, what do
you think our response should be in the wake of
the Charlie Kirk's assassination. How do you think we christ
as Christian Americans should respond.

Speaker 37 (49:43):
I think, first of all, with what Erica Kirk said
in her presentation her speech last night, which was extremely powerful, courageous.
I think she she oh, absolutely, she said that that
this movement will go forward. She's going to see to

(50:03):
it that moves forward. And I think Americans Christians need
to rise up and support that movement as well, because
what it was is a movement about having dialogue about
free speech, which is what we are all entitled to
and we need to as Christians. We should be helping

(50:25):
to drive this dialogue, open dialogue to be able to
discuss when we have differences and show that we can
discuss with love and respect and not put each other
down and not criticize.

Speaker 13 (50:42):
Yeah, that's one thing that I think Charlie Kirk was
really good at, is being able to debate issues. You know,
I remember something doctor Phil said, and I always advise people.
You know, my daughter Hannah got married her and her
husband Jared, and I remember talking to them and specifically

(51:02):
Jared when he asked. He invited me to a restaurant
to ask me for her hand, and I gave him
this piece of advice that I heard from doctor Philly
many many years ago, which I thought was really good
and resonated. Doctor phil said, it's not a matter of
whether a couple fights, it's how they fight as to

(51:24):
whether or not a marriage will last. He says, the
surest way that a marriage I can tell whether a
marriage will last or not is if they let their
arguments their fights get personal. And that really, to me
is a is a principle that you can apply not
just in marriage but also in any kind of personal relationship.

(51:45):
If it gets personal, then it's not going to go
well in the end. I think that people really need
to stick to the issues and avoid the ad hominem
personal attacks that often things devolve into. I look at
discussions online all the time. I see these bulletin boards

(52:07):
or you know, comments sections on YouTube videos or what
have you. You know it, it seems like it always
kind of very quickly spirals downward to the point where
it gets very personal. Instead of actually debating real issues,
people are just calling each other's names. And I think
that that's that's what really needs to stop. So what

(52:29):
do you think of the Yeah, what do you think
of the most common misconceptions congregations and community leaders have
about security? Are there any lessons that we can really
take from this attack when it comes to you know, preparedness.

Speaker 37 (52:46):
Well, the first thing, the first misconception that a lot
of church leaders have is that having church security will
scare people, and that is totally wrong. Keep feel safer
when they walk into a church and see that there
is a security presence there. In this day and age

(53:06):
with everything that's going on, people aren't stupid. They know
what's going on, and they don't have their heads in
the sand, and so they know that there is a
thread out there. So they're going to want to know
that they're being taken care of and that they are
safe while when they go to worship. That's why I

(53:28):
think church safety or security teams are extremely important. The
other thing is when people are thinking about church security
teams is the first thing they think of as guns,
and it's not all about guns. In fact, the gun
is the last thing when statistically the number one issue
that a church will experience is a medical issue. After that,

(53:52):
it's domestic disputes. An active shooter is so far down
the list as a potential threat or thing that's going
to actually happen in an individual church. There's so much
other stuff that they need to be prepared for. But
you still want to be prepared for the worst. You
always want to prepare for the worst and expect the best.

(54:15):
And so I think a lot of churches unfortunately they
shy away from having some type of safety or security
team because they just don't fully understand it. And that's
where it's important to get involved and do some research.
And you know, like I said, the FBSN is a

(54:36):
great resource for people to learn more about it and
learn more about security, and if that's the route they
want to go, they can get support through that organization
to help them to develop it.

Speaker 13 (54:46):
You guys have a website for that.

Speaker 30 (54:51):
We do.

Speaker 37 (54:52):
It is www dot f b s N. That's for
a Faith Based Security Network fbs Inamerica dot com.

Speaker 13 (55:03):
Okay, very good, Fbsnamerica dot com.

Speaker 37 (55:07):
An Yeah, Fbsnamerica dot com. That's for Faith Based Security Network.
There's a really interesting study on there. It's called the
Deadly Force Incident Study, and anybody can see it on
the website and in that study. It was started by

(55:27):
Carl Chen back in nineteen ninety nine. Carl Chen is
well known in church security circles. He was back in
the nineteen nineties he worked to focus on the family.
They had a hostage situation and he was one of
the hostages.

Speaker 13 (55:42):
Wow.

Speaker 37 (55:42):
And then in around two thousand and seven, his church,
he was on the security team at his church in
Colorado Springs and they had an active shooter situation there,
situation that he was personally involved in. And so I've
told people that most of us would never ever experience
either any kind of an incident like this or either

(56:03):
one of these incidents. But here's a man that's experienced
two of them in his lifetime.

Speaker 13 (56:08):
Wow, that's a guy you want to hang around.

Speaker 30 (56:09):
He's bad luck.

Speaker 13 (56:10):
Yeah, we're we're just about out of time. Hey, thank
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Mike Harville, thank you so much for being with us
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Some female regions five to ten. This is the second
hour of Governor America. It continues to be the thirteenth
of September twenty twenty five, as we enter into our
number two great appearance by Mark Mike Harville. I appreciate
that in the first hour, and we'll give his website
out once again. It is sorry, let me get it

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here for you. It is the f It is www
dot Fbsnamerica dot com. If anybody wants to explore security
for your house of worship. And I don't know if
they provide security for other venues as well, but I
know that they do it for houses of worship. That's
certainly something that unfortunately is increasingly becoming a soft target

(01:00:54):
for these terrorists that want to go in and mess
with Christians, murder Christians. Certainly, the more radicals that we
have in our country, the more communist antiphotypes, the more
I hate to see it a radical Islamist that they

(01:01:17):
bring in as refugees who come in here as with
chips on their shoulders. That's certainly something that everybody should
be concerned about when you have your sharing more and
more conflicting viewpoints that are not compatible with Western civilization.

Speaker 15 (01:01:36):
Well, it doesn't even have to be refugees. When they
signed the NAP the NAFTA agreement. One part of it
was multinational investor relations. And a big part of my
research has been on the ports system and and that

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is what the Communist Chinese have been building, is a
global system of ports for commerce. But in nineteen ninety,
I think it was they came up with a system
whereby you could have foreign direct investment in your country

(01:02:24):
in the United States, and American corporations could go invest
their money in foreign countries. And so you have this
system where you have foreign corporations investing in your country
and they could bring in their own workers. Yeah, which

(01:02:47):
is a lot of what happened to Silicon Valley. Basically
there was an Indian takeover of Silicon Valley.

Speaker 13 (01:02:57):
Yeah. Well, one thing that they mentioned in that report
that we played earlier about Tyler Robinson, this shooter of
Charlie Kirk, this alleged shooter. Right now, he's innocent until
proven guilty. They're making the claim that he's guilty. I

(01:03:18):
don't imagine that they would say that he wasn't guilty
if he wasn't. But in America, people are presumed innocent
until proven guilty in the court of law. That being said,
according to his friends, he was pretty much he came
from a conservative family, and he was pretty much left

(01:03:38):
it on every issue, Breitbart says. The alleged assassin behind
Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk's death on September tenth,
is described by a friend as being pretty left on everything.
According to a report from The Guardian, a high school
friend of twenty two years old Utah resident Tyler Robinson,
who asked to remain anonymous, told the outlet that while

(01:04:00):
Robinson's family was very hard Republican, Robinson himself was the
only member of his family that was really leftist. Robinson
was described as becoming more extreme in his political views
around his sophomore year, the friend told the outlet. In
a phone interview on Friday, one of Tyler Robinson's high
school friends, who asked to remain anonymous, said that the

(01:04:24):
suspect was quote pretty left on everything unquote, and was
quote the only member of the family that was really
leftist unquote. The rest of his family was very hard Republican,
the friend said, and saw around sophomore year, the friend said,
Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would

(01:04:44):
always be ranting and arguing about them. Breitbart News' A W. R.
Hawkins reported that during a press conference announcing Robinson's capture,
Utah Governor Spencer Cock Spencer co I should say noted
that the assassin would be charged and held accountable. There

(01:05:06):
is one person responsible for what happened here, and that
person is now in custody and will be charged soon
and will be held accountable, Cox said. Cox also revealed
that on the evening of September eleventh, a family member
of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who
contacted the Washington County Sheriff's office with information that Robinson

(01:05:26):
had confessed to them or implied that he had committed
the incident. So apparently there is a confession there. Now.
One thing that is interesting, however, and you know, there's
I don't know what to make of this, but I'm
just gonna throw this out there because it's interesting to me.

(01:05:48):
The Gray Zone had an article just on September twelfth
because Charlie Kirk had become more open to criticizing Israel.
And you know, everybody knows where I stand on the
situation that's going on in Gaza. I am a Christian.
I was saved when I was six years old, and

(01:06:09):
I understand that the overwhelming majority of Christians view Israel
the Israel to present day Israel's the Israel of the Bible.
I think that the Israel of today was founded in
nineteen forty eight and it was a construct of well
number one, the bowfour Declaration and the Rothschild family. And

(01:06:37):
I think, honestly, I think they called it Israel so
that Christians would support it. But what it's done in
the Middle East is continue to expand its borders. And
you're not supposed to have any criticism at all for
modern day Israel, regardless of what it does over there.
And I remember Lee Stranahan going over there and talking
to the people in Lebanon, talking to Christians there and saying, well,

(01:07:05):
you're Christians, don't you support Israel? And I remember he
said that they said, we would love to support Israel.
The problem is they keep murdering us. So evidently Christians
are not very well treated, you know, unless you're going
over there on a tour. You know, if you're a

(01:07:27):
tourist touring Israel, then yeah, you know you'll be treated fine.
But you know, there are a number of things that
are going on over there that I think we in
the West are completely unaware of. And I think if
you really have a relationship with God, if you really
are a true Christian, you should love everybody, including people

(01:07:48):
in Gaza, and if they're being murdered, they're being genocided,
even though they have a different faith than you do.
I think that that is something that we need to
sound off about. That is something that we need. We
have an obligation not to stay quiet about that. And
I think in recent days toward his death, Charlie Kirk

(01:08:09):
was more open to that. He had been very, very
supportive of Israel like most Christians are, but he he
was more open to asking questions about what was going
on with regard to Israel, and just like Tucker Carlson
had been. And I think that that I'm not saying

(01:08:33):
that cost him his life because apparently it was this
tyler guy that shot him or that, you know, but
I know that according to the Gray Zone, one of
Charlie's friends was afraid. Frightened was the word that was
used by pro Israel forces prior to his death. And
I think that that is worth some attention for lack

(01:08:58):
of because he here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen, we
don't know. We don't know what we're being told. Every
time one of these shootings take place, we're always told
it was a lone gunman. We don't know what kind
of forces could be involved. And if Charlie was concerned
about some foreign entity, I don't care who it was.

(01:09:20):
That's something that people I think should know about, The
Grey Zone, says a Trump insider. A longtime friend of
Charlie Kirk tells The Grey Zone how the assassinated conservative
leader's turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash
from Netanyahu's allies that left him angry and afraid. The

(01:09:41):
source said, anxiety spread within the Trump administration after an
apparent Israeli spying operation was uncovered. Charlie Kirk rejected an
offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Yahoo
to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into
his turning point USA Organization, America's largest conservative youth organization.

(01:10:05):
According to a longtime friend of the slain commentator, speaking
on condition of anonymity, the source told The Gray Zone
that the late pro Trump influencer believed netnya who was
trying to cow him into silence as he began to
publicly question Israel's overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more

(01:10:27):
space to criticize it. In the weeks leading up to
his September tenth assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the
Israeli leader, regarding him as a bully. According to the source,
Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration,
where Netnyah who sought to personally dictate the president's personnel decisions,

(01:10:51):
and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to
keep the White House firmly under it's thumb. Now, I
want to break from the article for just a moment
to remind people, ladies and gentlemen, some of the stuff,
some of the questions that Tucker Carlson has been asking

(01:11:13):
or commenting in particular about. You know, people like Aidolsen.
Adolson was key in getting Donald Trump elected in the
first term. You remember that, Vicky, We talked about it
on the show.

Speaker 15 (01:11:26):
Yeah, yeah, I do. He was one of the major funders. Yeah,
it's pretty disturbing. You know, I hadn't I haven't heard
anybody else talk about that.

Speaker 13 (01:11:40):
According to Kirk's friend, the Grey Zone Continues, who also
enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle,
Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on
Israel's behalf. Charlie was the only person who did that,
they said, recalling how Trump barked at him in response

(01:12:01):
and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the
incident confirmed in Kirk's mind that the president of the
United States had fallen under the control of a malign
foreign power and was leading his own country into a
series of disastrous conflicts. By the following month, Kirk had
become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation

(01:12:24):
and free floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of
net Nyahou, figures he described in an interview as Jewish
leaders and stakeholders. He was afraid of them, the source emphasized.
Kirk was eighteen years old when he launched TPUSA in
twenty twelve. From its inception, his career was propelled by

(01:12:47):
Zionist donors who showered his young organization with money through
neo Konon conservative outfits like the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
He repaid his wealthy backers over the years by unleashing
a relentless fire hose of anti Palestinian and Islamophobic diatribes,
accepting propaganda trips to Israel, and sternly shutting down nationalist

(01:13:10):
forces challenging his support for Israel. During TPUSA events and
the Trump era, few American gentiles had proved more valuable
to the self proclaimed Jewish state than Charlie Kirk. But
as Israel's genocidal assault on the besieged Gaza Strip drove
an unprecedented backlash within grassroots right wing circles, where only

(01:13:34):
twenty four percent of younger Republicans now sympathize with Israel
over the Palestinians, Kirk began to shift at times. He
towed the Israeli line, spreading disinformation about babies beheaded by
Hamas on October seventh, and I want to be clear
of ladies and gentlemen again. I'm no fan of Hamas.

(01:13:57):
I want to make that very clear. But you got
to keep in mind where Hamas came from. If you
go do your research, you'll find that Benjamin Natanyahu himself
helped found Hamas and helped fund Hamas. It was the
Israeli government that helped create Hamas in order to fight

(01:14:19):
Yaser Arafat's influence the combat Yaser Arafat. Yaser Arafat wanted,
as my understanding of the situation, a peaceful solution. He
wanted a two state solution, and that was not something
that great was conducive to greater Israel. So Hamas was engineered,

(01:14:42):
and I can't prove it. But I now the first
part I can prove because that came out of Israeli newspapers.
I've got the actual Israeli newspapers and words that he
said to his own liqud party at the time. That
can be proven. The part I can't prove is the
degree to which there's still synergistic cooperation between the Israeli

(01:15:06):
government and Hamas. That's what I wonder about today. I
suspect there's more cooperation going on because you get the
October seventh attack by Hamas, which we talked about a
lot on this show. It seems very implausible that that

(01:15:29):
could happen with the kind of surveillance that the Israeli
government has, their intelligence operatives have over Gaza. The notion
that they could pull something like that off where literally
every meter of Gaza is surveilled by satellites. They're listening

(01:15:52):
in on everything, the phone conversations, everything is controlled. Everything
that goes in, everything that goes out is literally controlled.
It's the largest people have said, it's the largest open
air prison on the planet. And yet we're supposed to
believe that they were able to garner an attack with

(01:16:13):
all of the surveillance, all the intel that they gather
every second, on every every inch of Gaza. You want
to tell me that Hamas was able to organize an
attack against the Israeli people, But what it did is
it provided the Israeli government and an excuse to go

(01:16:36):
in and quote unquote counter attack. It's a it's your
classic false flag operation. So they talk about at times.
Charlie Kirk told the Israeli line spreading information or disinformation
about babies beheaded by Hamas on October seventh, and denying

(01:16:56):
the famine imposed on the population of Gaza. Yet he
simultaneously seated to his base wondering aloud if Jeffrey Epstein
was an Israeli intelligence asset. Well, I don't think we
really have to wonder about that, do we. I mean
certainly Ghlaine Maxwell, who might very well have been Epstein's handler.

(01:17:17):
I kind of think she was. Her own father was
Israeli Massad and by the way, I would say, died
under mysterious circumstances on his boat where he was. Apparently
he just disappeared. His boat was named after his daughter,
Lady Glaine was the name of the boat. And he
just disappeared. What happened to him? Does anybody even know?

(01:17:41):
Has it ever really been any real investigation? But he
was a Massad agent, So I strongly suspect Glaine was
Epstein's handler. But Charlie Kirk was questioning whether the Israeli

(01:18:01):
government allowed the October seventh attacks to proceed in order
to advance long term political goals and parroting narratives familiar
to his most vociferous critic on the right streamer, Nick Fuentas.
This July, at his TPUSA Student Action Summit, Kirk provided

(01:18:23):
a forum for the right wing grassroots to vent its
fury about Israel's political hammerlock on the Trump administration. Their
speakers from former Fox News stalwarts Tucker Carlson and Megan
Kelly to the anti Zionist Jewish comedian Dave Smith denounced
Israel's blood soaked assault on the besieged Gaza Strip, branded

(01:18:46):
Jeffrey Epstein as an Israeli intelligence asset, and openly taunted
Zionist billionaires like Bill Ackman for getting away with scams
despite having no actual skills. This is interesting that you
have in a historically pro Israeli right wing, you actually

(01:19:12):
have people breaking away from that. So a Charlie Kirk assassination.
The thought is is that would be very very convenient
for certain individuals, certain foreign actor.

Speaker 15 (01:19:27):
That's very disturbing.

Speaker 13 (01:19:28):
Actually, yeah, absolutely. As a matter of fact, I have
some audio here from that conference. Let's just go ahead.
This is Stucker Carlson at the TPUSA conference that they
were talking about getting rewarded for it.

Speaker 21 (01:19:44):
The unfairness of it drives you crazy, and it's particularly
galling in the case of Jeffrey Epstein and the whole
constellation of people around Jeffrey Epstein, all of whom seem
to be getting away with scams.

Speaker 13 (01:19:55):
And how do you know.

Speaker 21 (01:19:55):
They're getting away with scams? I'll tell you how, because
they're useless and they're rich. So how do you come
to a place where some of the least impressive. Most
useless people who have no actual skills become billionaires.

Speaker 13 (01:20:10):
How's that legitimate?

Speaker 7 (01:20:12):
And by the way, if you ask this.

Speaker 21 (01:20:13):
Question, at least in Washington, it's like, oh, well, it
sounds like you're a socialist.

Speaker 11 (01:20:17):
Sounds like socialism.

Speaker 21 (01:20:19):
Yeah, ok, I'm a socialist now, all right. I was
a Katari agent or a bigot.

Speaker 11 (01:20:23):
Now I'm a socialist, all right.

Speaker 21 (01:20:25):
Leaving aside my committed socialism, can you answer the question,
how did Bill Ackman get nine billion dollars?

Speaker 27 (01:20:32):
Bill?

Speaker 9 (01:20:33):
Bill Ackman a pretty impressive.

Speaker 11 (01:20:34):
Guy, I know, Bill Ackman.

Speaker 21 (01:20:36):
No, Bill Ackman's like well connected and super aggressive.

Speaker 13 (01:20:40):
That's it.

Speaker 21 (01:20:41):
And I think, you know, well connected, super aggressive people
deserve a fair living like everybody else. But if you're
accruing nine million dollars just because you're willing to do anything,
I don't know why we have to pretend that's good.

Speaker 13 (01:20:54):
So that was at the TPUSA conference, Charlie Kirk giving
platform to be questioning Israel and Israel's you know, the
Zionis faction of the Republican Party. Now I got to
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seventeen seventy six. I'm not saying Israel murdered Charlie Kirk.
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of noting the enemies that he was making prior to
his death. It, you know, is the guy of Patsy
that they haven't in custody. I'm not saying that he

(01:21:37):
is or isn't. I'm just saying it's worthy to note
the enemies that a person is making prior to his
being murdered. How can this happen? This is a horrendous situation.
Our purpose here is to explore the truth, to delve deeper.
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four four six four six eighty three seventy six. That's
eight four four six govern talking about the Charlie Kirk assassination,
which has been heavy on my heart. I think most
of us, uh, it's been heavy on our heart all
week long. I feel a tremendous loss. Regardless of how
you slice it, regardless of whether you agreed with Charlie

(01:27:07):
Kirk everything that he did. The point is that this
was Charlie was instrumental, instrumental at cutting through the cultural
Marxist indoctrination that so permeates our universities and our colleges.
And for that reason, my hat's off to him. I

(01:27:30):
think he was he was a free speech hero. I
have told other people and I'll repeat it here that
it wasn't just Charlie Kirk that was gunned down. It
wasn't just Charlie Kirk that was attacked. Free speech was
gunned down this week because Charlie Kirk is a free
speech hero, and he will go down in history as

(01:27:55):
one of the most courageous people. And he knew, you know,
all of the people around him. That's one thing that
I've seen very prominent in conservative circles that knew Charlie.
They said that, you know, they were talking to him privately.
They said, he knew the dangers, he knew the risks.
And we talked to Mike Harville in the first hour

(01:28:16):
and he was talking about security issues, and I think
there were things that could have been done, you know,
more so to secure the venue, and there are things
that you know, certainly Charlie could have done, certainly bulletproof glass,
whatever have you, but he didn't want to do that
because he felt like it would inhibit dialogue, and that

(01:28:40):
was his whole purpose is to have dialogue with the
young people. But this has become a massive movement and
a number. Charlie Kirk's impact on the young people in
this country and around the world. Really, I think he
has a worldwide reach. It will be felt for many,

(01:29:04):
many decades to come. I really believe and I pray
that God will raise up a million Charlie Kirks to
take this man's place. I really believe that that will happen.
And I think that they by martyring him, they've only

(01:29:24):
made this thing larger, bigger. It's just like what his
widow said last night, you have no idea what you've unleashed.
We'll play here audio in a little bit, but I
want to get back to this article here in just
a moment, But first we have Art and Georgia back.
Go ahead, Art, what's on your mind?

Speaker 27 (01:29:47):
Okay? Before I get to what I called about, just
real quick. Shortly after my comments on the previous broadcast,
somebody sent me several links review about Charlie Kirk his
position on Israel, and one that really stood out to
me was a video and he's in the chat room

(01:30:09):
right now. The video link that he sent to me
was just before days just before, days before he was assassinated,
Charlie Kirk went on air and named secular Jews as
the largest founders of neoliberalism or neoliberal Marxism, open border policies,
which collectively amount to civilizational suicide. I want to thank

(01:30:30):
this individual for sending me these links. You've given me
a lot to reconsider.

Speaker 13 (01:30:35):
So you got you got the actual videos where he's
saying that.

Speaker 27 (01:30:39):
Yeah, it's it's it's quite wow. It's definitely giving me
cause to reconsider my thoughts on where Charlie Cooks stood
on Israel. So again, I want to outpost that link.
Unless he wants to post it in the chat, I'll

(01:31:00):
post it so that people can go in and see it.
Very interesting.

Speaker 15 (01:31:05):
Yeah, I'd like to watch those that south.

Speaker 27 (01:31:11):
Okay, then I'll post it in the chat, unless the
individual who is in the chat wants to post it himself.

Speaker 13 (01:31:19):
Okay.

Speaker 27 (01:31:20):
With that said, very interesting was brought to my attention
on September eleventh, a book entitled The Shooting of Charlie Kirk,
a comprehensive account of the Utah Valley University attack, the
aftermath and America's response, written by someone named Anastasia J. Casey. Now,

(01:31:44):
this book was published. According to Amazon, this book had
a publication date of September ninth, YEP. This would be
the day before Charlie Kirk was shot.

Speaker 13 (01:31:57):
I saw that.

Speaker 27 (01:31:58):
I went back, just just for us. I went back
to Amazon. Do you know you can now no longer
find the book? It has been scrubbed from Amazon.

Speaker 13 (01:32:11):
Yeah. That raises a lot of interesting questions, doesn't it.
I did see that a.

Speaker 27 (01:32:15):
Lot of people on the left, a lot of people
on the left. PolitiFact and a couple other outlets are
trying to claim Snoopes is trying to claim this as
well as others are trying to claim that, oh, this
was just an error.

Speaker 13 (01:32:30):
It should How do you post a book by error?

Speaker 27 (01:32:34):
Blah blah blah. Well, if you post a book with
a date predating the actual event, and it was just
an error in the publication date, why are you going
through all the trouble of erasing the book completely.

Speaker 13 (01:32:52):
Well, they would probably say they took it down the error.
They would probably say that they took it down because
it's exploiting the tragedy. Somebody's trying to profit off the tragedy.
I know there's a lot of AI books quote unquote books.
Amazon has had a lot of problems with e books
that are actually not even written by people, But for

(01:33:15):
something to be published prior to the actual event is
disturbing at best. And you know, who knows? This seems
like this always happens with these types of events. You've
got news articles that are published with dates that precede
the event. I don't do does nobody bother to set

(01:33:36):
the time on their web servers? I mean, it doesn't
make any sense to me. How do these things keep
getting the wrong dates.

Speaker 27 (01:33:46):
Right? And again, that brings me back to my question.
If this was just a typo that somebody accidentally put
in the ninth instead of the tenth or the eleventh
or whatever, why did you erase the book from Why
did you scrub the book from the site?

Speaker 13 (01:34:03):
Well, why did it have the wrong date to begin with? That?
Go in?

Speaker 27 (01:34:07):
You can always go in and correct the publication date.
If it was just a typo, Yeah, you don't have
to erase the book from the from your site. Yeah,
something smells.

Speaker 13 (01:34:17):
Funny, Yeah, that's it. It's very bizarre, Tolly.

Speaker 27 (01:34:21):
I believe that this was a well planned and perfectly
executed assassination of a political rival. That's what I believe
in my heart.

Speaker 13 (01:34:31):
Yeah, yeah, I have to agree with you on that.
Whoever pulled it off, and I don't know if it
was if Israel was involved, I'm not even saying that,
but the fact that he was, you know, Charlie Kirk
was a fairly young man. He was only thirty one
years old, and so it could well be that, you know,

(01:34:53):
I mean, when you're when you gain that type of
notoriety at a very young age, you know, and then
you're subject subject to the overwhelming pressures of being a
high profile individual at a very young age, it's easy
to be swayed. And and so for a long time,

(01:35:15):
I think he went along with the narratives on the right.
I think he went along with those that were around him.
But as he continued to mature, I think it could
very well be and it sounds like it to me,
based upon what I'm reading, what I'm seeing, and what
I'm now what you're telling us about these videos, that

(01:35:37):
it could very well be that he was starting to
awaken to the fact that not everything we've been told
about Israel is true and it's a painful situation for
a lot of Christians. I know, I didn't want to
accept it. You know, I've been a lifelong Christian and
we have that drilled into us all the time. Support Israel,

(01:35:59):
you know, I will love them that love the curse them,
the curse the you know. You know though that's God's
chosen people. You can't go against that, right. So it's
painful when you have something You've got a lot of
cognitive dissonance going on there. And and yet I think

(01:36:22):
I believe that he's he was principled enough when he
started to see it, he became more compelled to speak
out against it, just like Tucker Carlson. And you can't
start lighting those types of brush fires in people's mind
when you have a power structure in place that depends

(01:36:42):
upon people supporting I mean, what this really goes down to, folks,
is the new world order. What is the nature of
the new world order? You know? And and how this
whole thing is going to play out in terms of
the Middle East and in terms of the rest of
the world, the control of the United States. Who maintains control.

(01:37:06):
Will it be the people at the central of power,
or will it be the American people where it rightfully belongs.
Those are the questions that really face our life. That
faces this generation right and it faces the.

Speaker 15 (01:37:20):
Next questions I work on every day. Yeah, you know,
what did they do to our country?

Speaker 27 (01:37:28):
How?

Speaker 15 (01:37:28):
How did they they started deconstructing it? I would say
beginning with Kennedy. Kennedy, you know, he had his Alliance
for Progress to work in Latin America, and each administration

(01:37:50):
after that had their part to play in basically deconstructing
our country.

Speaker 9 (01:37:58):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:38:00):
And the situation that we're in what I was talking
about in terms of foreign direct investment in our country
and American investment in foreign countries, that was the result
of deregulation of our insurance, banking, and financial system. So

(01:38:29):
they globalize those three things and that basically destroyed our economy.
So it.

Speaker 13 (01:38:40):
Yeah, the more globalization go ahead, I was going to say,
the more globalization we do, the more it doesn't help
anything here. They make the arguments just like the promises
of NAFTA, the promises of GAT prior to NAFTA, all
of these multilateral trade agreements. I have no problem with trade.

(01:39:00):
We've done trade since the beginning of our nation. The
problem I have is multilateral trade agreements that bind us
and benefit the poorest countries. You have the poorest countries
in the pool, and you have free trade agreements with
them to reduce or eliminate tariffs. Where's all the money

(01:39:21):
going to go. It's going to go out of your country.
It's going to drain into the poorest, the most empty nations.
They become slave land.

Speaker 15 (01:39:29):
And into the richest pockets.

Speaker 13 (01:39:31):
Yeah, and that's what really boils down to.

Speaker 15 (01:39:34):
That's where the real money goes.

Speaker 13 (01:39:37):
Exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:39:37):
Poor countries don't really the poor people in the poor
countries really don't benefit. It's the leaders of the poor
countries that benefit, and they benefit personally.

Speaker 13 (01:39:49):
It's just like water running downhill. You know, the lowest
is going to get all the cash. But those people,
it doesn't bring them up. Bite the promises. Oh, if
you build it, you know they'll be able to they'll
not want to come to your country because they're going
to be so prosperous. Yet they're not really prosperous at all.

(01:40:10):
What they are as slaves to your multi national corporations.
And then you destroy the developed countries like the United States.
The American middle class is destroyed and it's never cooperated.
In the meantime, they've built up China to be a
massive threat. Now we're dealing with the possibility of war

(01:40:31):
with them. I mean, I mean, if you had planned it,
you couldn't destroy things any better. But they did plan
it right.

Speaker 15 (01:40:39):
Nineteen ninety was the beginning of the economic world war.

Speaker 13 (01:40:45):
Yeah, and it's a good way of putting it.

Speaker 15 (01:40:48):
Yeah, it is a world war. They what they did
was to replace our political system based on nation states
and borders with a global economics system that has just
been bleeding our country out ever since.

Speaker 13 (01:41:07):
Aren't you anything else?

Speaker 27 (01:41:11):
Just I posted the three links that were sent to me. Okay,
I just posted them in there in the chat there
if you want to grab them real quick. But yeah, again,
I want to thank the individual in the chat who
sent me those links. You definitely give me cause to
reconsider things. I've always been a man who's been willing

(01:41:34):
to look at evidence that's been supplied and always willing
to change my views if the evidence bears out. So
thank you for that, the evidence that you've provided me.
I'm not going to call the individual out by name,
just that I just want him to know that I
appreciate him helping to educate me and helping me to

(01:41:58):
form an informed and intelligent conclusion or belief in what
has happened. Yep, with that again, I want to reiterate
it's time we the people stand up, we say no more,
we are done with this, and start holding our officials

(01:42:20):
accountable for their actions or lack of action when regarding
these heinous crimes. We can't tolerate this any more. We've
got to call this done.

Speaker 13 (01:42:35):
I think what we got to look forward to here.
Thank you, I appreciate the call. My concern is is
that where they're going to go next, hate speech laws.
I believe hate speech laws are coming to the United States.
If more people wake up to the threat that is Israel,
they're gonna call it anti Semitic. That's what they've done
with other countries. I mean, the type of broadcast we're

(01:42:57):
having right now, we couldn't have have in another country,
in many other countries. I don't know if we can
have it in any other country. Yeah, well, because they
will prosecute you for it.

Speaker 27 (01:43:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:43:11):
I think Pam Bondie should be called Pam Blondie. I
don't have any faith in her at all.

Speaker 13 (01:43:21):
Well, there's plenty of blonde people that are good people
and smart people. So I don't want to dispirite blonde people.

Speaker 15 (01:43:31):
Well, I couldn't resist. But the fact is she's been
pretty useless.

Speaker 13 (01:43:36):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. She's fulfilling the role that
she was put in. Therefore, and it wasn't justice in
my opinion, certainly how she's handled the Epstein mess along
with Cash Purtel and all the others.

Speaker 15 (01:43:51):
She created the Epstein mess. Yeah, she created it.

Speaker 13 (01:43:55):
Yeah she did. She went on and said I got
it on my desk right now. She didn't have anything
on her desk, or she did. She certainly isn't releasing
it to the public. So that's the question I have,
is what's going on with all that? Let me let
me finish up with this article though, because what one
of the articles that Art just posted in the chat

(01:44:16):
room was from press TV, the Iranian news publication, the
Iranian state publication, and where it's getting its information is
this gray Zone article that I'm reading from the gray
Zone was the originator in all this. A lot of
different other publications wrote articles referring to this information, but

(01:44:40):
this is the original source they were talking. If you
recall about this TPUSA event where Tucker Carlson, among others,
got on and Tucker was talking about how how Bill
Ackman got his nine billion dollars, you know, how did
he do that? How is this unimpressive guy with no talent?

(01:45:04):
How did you get so rich?

Speaker 27 (01:45:06):
You know?

Speaker 13 (01:45:07):
So the grey zone picks it up. Following the confab
talking about the TPUSA event, Kirk was bombarded with infuriated
text messages and phone calls from Netanyahu's wealthy allies in
the US, including many who had funded TPUSA. According to
his longtime friend, the zionist donors treated Kirk without right contempt,

(01:45:29):
essentially ordering him to fall back into line. He was
being told what you're not allowed to do, and it
was driving him crazy. Kirk's friend, recalled the conservative youth
leader was not only alienated by the hostile nature of
the interactions, but frightened by the backlash. The friend's account

(01:45:50):
dovetails with those of multiple right wing commentators with access
to Kirk. Quote. I think in the end, Charlie was
going through a spiritual transformation quote Candace Owens, a conservative
influencer who shifted decisively against Israel after October seventh reflected

(01:46:10):
after her friend's killing. Now I've got let me just
break from that for just a moment. There is an
orgy of ghules all across the Internet that are celebrating
Charlie Kirk's death. Among those people is one particular guy

(01:46:31):
who is specifically warning Candace Owens she better not leave
the house, whether her white husband and her white baby.
I forget exactly how he put it, but let me
just go ahead and play that, because this is really,
I think goes in line with what we're talking about here,
this orgy of ghules. I mean, ladies and gentlemen. If

(01:46:57):
you ever wondered if real evil exhists on this planet,
listen to this orgy of ghouls. We got Charlie in
the neck is what he's singing there. We got Charlie
in the neck. What a sick I don't have any

(01:47:22):
words for a level of evil like that, but it
goes on.

Speaker 14 (01:47:25):
Charlie Kirk just got shot in the neck.

Speaker 40 (01:47:29):
He Charlie Kirk got shot, and he did.

Speaker 26 (01:47:41):
Finally, finally think you can we keep this up.

Speaker 15 (01:47:44):
Charlie Kirk was a Nazi.

Speaker 41 (01:47:46):
He was a Nazi, and you know what kind of
Nazi is the best Nazi a dead one.

Speaker 15 (01:47:51):
Thank god that stain of a person is no longer
in this world. Bad people should not be in this world.

Speaker 20 (01:47:59):
Shot right in the voice box, I might be one
person as atheist today.

Speaker 13 (01:48:05):
I don't care that he was a person.

Speaker 40 (01:48:06):
He wasn't to me, he was an I think he's
better off gone, So fucking be.

Speaker 15 (01:48:12):
This is so bad, This is so bad.

Speaker 9 (01:48:15):
Shut the fuck up and prayers, rest and smoke. Charlie
Kirk hopped for talking outside of his neck? Whoop do
you do?

Speaker 13 (01:48:25):
I for an eye?

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Bitch?

Speaker 19 (01:48:26):
I think the only thing that went wrong that day
was that Trump wasn't standing behind him getting a second
hand bullet pollet attic.

Speaker 14 (01:48:34):
My thoughts go out to that pewp having to look
this motherfucker in the face.

Speaker 42 (01:48:39):
Ah, my deepest condolen says.

Speaker 14 (01:48:42):
I literally could not keep up.

Speaker 11 (01:48:44):
They can get a step fother boomed bitch like gone?

Speaker 13 (01:48:49):
Why do y'all keep aiming for the wrong aime? Higher?

Speaker 25 (01:48:52):
Well, Charlie, you support Charlie Kirk being killed?

Speaker 7 (01:48:55):
Yes?

Speaker 18 (01:48:55):
I do you support Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 12 (01:48:56):
Shooter is a favorite, such a good person.

Speaker 13 (01:49:01):
Why did he get shot?

Speaker 8 (01:49:02):
What?

Speaker 43 (01:49:02):
They don't think?

Speaker 13 (01:49:03):
Where it now?

Speaker 15 (01:49:04):
Honestly?

Speaker 24 (01:49:05):
Yeah, he had it called Charlie Kirk was a big
advocate for the Second Amendment.

Speaker 13 (01:49:09):
It worked out well for him.

Speaker 11 (01:49:12):
About Kirk, deal, Yeah, two kids.

Speaker 9 (01:49:17):
White boy kid.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
They probably anyway.

Speaker 37 (01:49:20):
That white boy kid.

Speaker 41 (01:49:21):
He was shot in the middle of saying something transphobic
about trans people. And yet you want to have sympathy
for him. You're losing your humanity by allowing fascists to
define your sympathy for you.

Speaker 29 (01:49:33):
You know, sometimes revenge is a dispasser Cole.

Speaker 11 (01:49:36):
He died in a world that he wanted slavery.

Speaker 13 (01:49:39):
We watched roots.

Speaker 44 (01:49:39):
There are so many different eras of American history and
American in America where worse things have happened to people.

Speaker 27 (01:49:45):
Why are you?

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Why are you mourning the death of a literal Nazi?

Speaker 15 (01:49:49):
Still loving?

Speaker 9 (01:49:50):
I've been in a devoted father.

Speaker 13 (01:49:54):
She's slipping flipping off the camera.

Speaker 41 (01:49:57):
Now that Charlie Kirk's gone, Miss Cannice, I I guess
you stay home with your white baby and your white
husband and shut the up and stay out of the limelight.

Speaker 13 (01:50:07):
Okay, sir, you need it. I think that person needs
to be investigated because that is a direct threat.

Speaker 15 (01:50:17):
Were all of those TikTok videos?

Speaker 40 (01:50:21):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:50:21):
They were compiled. Many of them I think were probably
on TikTok, but they were a number of I saw
them on Twitter, but they were being compiled. I know
that libs of TikTok, which is a conservative TikTok account,
goes through. They were established to go through and go

(01:50:41):
TikTok and pull out stuff people have posted there, these
radical leftists and exposed them, and so that's kind of
their stick. So some of these came from them, but
I don't know how many of them originally were posted
on TikTok versus elsewhere. But I don't think it really
matters that much other than the fact that, I mean,

(01:51:02):
these people, what are you would you call them people?
I mean, I call them they're monsters.

Speaker 15 (01:51:08):
That's fun. I object to giving a platform to mentally
ill people. Well, all of those people are there's something
wrong in their brain.

Speaker 13 (01:51:19):
They're demons, they're diabolical.

Speaker 15 (01:51:22):
Yeah, they're evil, and so so why do we give
them a platinform?

Speaker 13 (01:51:27):
Well, if it wasn't for TikTok, there would be a
platform somewhere else. I mean, they will tell you what
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From FEMA Regions five and ten. This is the third
and final hour of Governed America. Vicki Davis is here.
I'm Darren Wicks, and it continues to be the thirteenth
of September twenty twenty five. As we get back into
the show. Here final hour covering this Charlie Kirk massacre,
Charlie Kirk assassination, and it was a political assassination. Sharing

(01:56:14):
from an article from the Grey Zone, Charlie Kirk refused
Netanyahu funding offer, was frightened by pro Israel forces before death.
Friend says now, I wanted to say, in regards to
the reference that was made earlier to that video that
was posted in the chat room, I don't believe that
the video. I have serious questions about the authenticity of

(01:56:35):
the video. I watched it during the break. I know
a lot can be done with AI. I know there
were some special effects that were added to that. It's
got some films filter on it for one thing. I
know that you can do a lot in processing fake
videos today. So I want to see the original. I

(01:56:55):
want to see the original from a source that is definite,
could be you know, actually Charlie Kirk's actual source. Charlie
Kirk website or Real America's voice, something that I can
prove that it actually came from it's actually a legitimate video,

(01:57:16):
because I have serious questions about it. That's all I'm
gonna say about that. But what we can know is
Charlie Kirk was questioning the Orthodoxy. You know, Jesus was
crucified himself for questioning the leaders of his day, the
religious leaders of his day. Okay, so it's hate to

(01:57:39):
say it, but the religious leaders. Sometimes it's the people
that you think are your friends that you really have
to watch out for and sharing for this article, just
finishing this up. This friend of Charlie Kirk who talked
to the Grey Zone, the account dovetails, they say, with

(01:58:02):
those of multiple right wing commentators with access to Kirk,
Cannas Owens. We referenced he earlier. That was one of
the people the crazies, one of the people that crazy
said you better watch it, you better not leave the house.
Be safe out there, girl, remember that just played it
before the break.

Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:58:24):
Well, Candas Owens, she said, I think in the end
Charlie was going through his spiritual transformation. And Candace, they say,
a conservative influencer who shifted decisively against Israel after October seventh.
Reflected after her friend's killing, she says, I know it.

(01:58:47):
He was going through a lot. There was a lot
of pressure, and it's hard for me to watch the
people who were pressuring him just say the things that
they were saying unquote. She continued by saying that they
wanted to lose everything. They wanted him to lose everything
for changing or even slightly modifying an opinion. It's very
hurtful to me now, the grey zone, says. Kirk appeared

(01:59:12):
visibly outraged during an August sixth interview with conservative host
Megan Kelly as he discussed the menacing messages he was
receiving from pro Israel bigwigs. It's all of a sudden, Oh, Charlie,
he's no longer with us. Wait a second, what does
the with us mean exactly? I'm an American, okay, I

(01:59:35):
represent this country, he explained, before addressing the powerful Zionist
interests harassing him. The more you guys privately and publicly
call our character into question, which is not isolated, it
would be one thing if it were just one text
or two texts. It is dozens of texts. Then we
start to say, whoa hold on, hold the boat here,

(01:59:56):
Kirk continued to be fair. Some really good you wish
friends say that's not all of us. But these are
leaders here, these are stakeholders. He went on to complain
to Kelly, I have less ability to criticize the Israeli
government than actual Israelis do. That's really, really weird. And
one of his final interviews, conducted with Israel's premier influencer

(02:00:21):
in the United States, Ben Shapiro, Kirk once again tried
to raise the issue of censorship of israel critics. He says,
a friend to me interestingly said, Charlie, Okay, we pushed
back against the media on covid on lockdowns, on Ukraine,
on the border, Kirk told Shapiro on September ninth, maybe
we should ask the question, is the media totally presenting
the truth when it comes to Israel? Just a question?

(02:00:44):
I think I have that clip here, let me play.

Speaker 11 (02:00:46):
That, Charlie.

Speaker 25 (02:00:47):
We've pushed backed against the media on covid on lockdowns,
on Ukraine, on the border on maybe we should also
ask a question, is the media totally presenting the truth
when it comes to Israel?

Speaker 13 (02:00:59):
Just a question?

Speaker 25 (02:01:00):
Well that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says,
because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot
more critical questions over the last couple of years. So
Ben some people would accuse Israel of wanting to ethnically cleanse.
Some people in the Israeli government are saying again, it's
all over the place, right, you have opinions all over.
In your opinion, what would a good outcome five years

(02:01:20):
from now be, and how does one respond to the
claims of ethnic cleansing now?

Speaker 13 (02:01:26):
They say. According to Kirk's longtime friend, Kirk's resentment of
Netanyahu and the Israel lobby was spreading within Trump's inner circle.
In fact, they said the President himself was terrified of
Netanyahu's wrath and feared the consequences of defying him. During
the past year, the Trump Insider was told by contacts

(02:01:46):
in the White House that the Secret Service had caught
Israeli government personnel placing electronic devices on its emergency response
vehicles on two separate occasions. While the Grey Zone was
unable to confirm the story with a Secret Service or
White House, such an incident would not have been unprecedented. Indeed,
according to a report in Politico citing three former senior

(02:02:10):
US officials. A cell phone spying device was placed by
Israeli agents near the White House and other sensitive locations
around Washington toward the end of Trump's first term. In
twenty nineteen, former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson recounted a
similar incident in his memoir, writing that his security team

(02:02:32):
found a listening device in his bathroom soon after net
Yahoo used his personal toilet. Kirk was killed this September
tenth with a single shot fired by a sniper apparently
positioned on a rooftop two hundred meters away. He was
shot while seated before a crowd of thousands at Utah

(02:02:53):
State University in orem Utah on the first leg of
his American Comeback tour. About the symbolism of that, by
the way, American comeback, Hey, it's the American comeback is
gunned down. The message seems very clear, doesn't it. And
they're not saying this. I'm saying this, there will be

(02:03:15):
no American comeback anyway.

Speaker 15 (02:03:21):
That's disturbing.

Speaker 13 (02:03:23):
That seems to be the message to me. But they say.
The scene of Kirk collapsing from the impact of a
gunshot to his neck just as he began answering a
question about transgender mass shooters was perhaps the most shockingly
vivid spectacle of assassination and certainly the most viral in
human history. There is currently no evidence of an Israeli

(02:03:45):
government role in Kirk's assassination. I want to say that again,
because we're not trying to create one either, Okay, I'm
just putting this information out there because it's important to
have the full picture. We don't know if there was
a role, but I think it's certainly worthy of consideration

(02:04:07):
that there could have been a possibility of a role,
especially considering the people in Kirk's orbit talking about him
being afraid of Netanyahu's wrath. And we know the American
Political Action Committee buying off members of Congress. Massive problem

(02:04:28):
here in our country. Foreign aid goes into Israel from
the US taxpayer, and it comes back to our politicians
as bribes. This is a reality. The Israeli government has
an enormous influence in Washington, d C. And I would
say a whole lot more than you, the American people,

(02:04:51):
a whole lot more. As a matter of fact, some
might say you have very little influence.

Speaker 15 (02:04:57):
Oh, I would say that absolutely. Our Congress does not
work for the American people.

Speaker 13 (02:05:05):
It's sad.

Speaker 15 (02:05:06):
Yeah, our contributions don't even get them elected. It's their
corporate and nonprofit contributions that get them elected, and that's
who they represent.

Speaker 13 (02:05:19):
There's currently no evidence of an Israeli government role in
Kirk's assassination. However, that has not stopped thousands of social
media users from speculating that the pro Trump operatives' shifting
views on the issue contributed in some way to his death.
By the time of publication, over one hundred thousand Twitter
slash x users have liked a September eleventh post by

(02:05:39):
libertarian influencer Ian Carroll declaring about Kirk quote, he was
their friend. He basically dedicated his life to them, and
they murdered him in front of his family. Israel just
shot themselves unquote. Many advancing the unsubstantiated theory have posted
to a Twitter slash ex post by Harrison Smith, a

(02:06:01):
personality at the pro Trump Info Wars network, stating on
August thirteenth, almost a month before Kirk's assassination, that he
was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Kirk
thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against Israel.
The frenzied speculation has set off shockwaves in Tel Aviv,
where Nettan Yahoo was compelled to explicitly deny that his

(02:06:23):
government killed Kirk during a September eleventh interview with Newsmack. Newsmax. Well,
that's interesting. Yeah, Let's let's just play a little of this.
Let's see what Let's see what this how this goes?
Bear with me. I did not clip this, but we'll
play it directly from the Twitter post.

Speaker 24 (02:06:44):
Before I let you go, I want you to address
one thing. And I've been just the absurdity of it,
some of the internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind
the Charlie Kirk murder. And you know, I don't believe
it for one second, but I want you to, you know,
make a statement that's insane.

Speaker 29 (02:07:02):
That's insane. Israel also changes the orbit of the moon,
Israel pushes the sun. I mean, the whole thing is
it's not only insane, it's I think it's so absurd,
so stupid, so stupid, and so ridiculous. You can't believe
that people are saying that they just found the perpetrator.

(02:07:25):
They'll get to the bottom of this, but they go
you know, they have no limits. When you hate Jews,
when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say
anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors. And by
the way, they're willing to kill us all the time.
I mean, that's what they're doing.

Speaker 13 (02:07:44):
And you know, here we go with the victimhood. And
if you criticize or question is really government, all of
a sudden you hate the Jews. It's a It's a
tired song, isn't it. It's a tired song.

Speaker 29 (02:07:57):
For the centrics when Jews is especially in the Middle Ages,
the horrific Middle Ages, the worst things were said about Jews.
You could possibly believe we were poisoning the wells, we
were drinking the blood of Christian children, you name it.
I mean these things that continued actually up to the Holocaust.
The Nazis said the same thing.

Speaker 13 (02:08:17):
You know, We're okay, and he goes on from there.
I don't know how much more of that we really
need to hear.

Speaker 15 (02:08:24):
You'll put that in the show notes.

Speaker 13 (02:08:26):
Right, Yeah, that's right in this Gray Zone article. So
the what I just played is embedded in the page. Okay,
So just finishing this up. I know it's a link
the article, but I think it's worthy of our attention
that appearance when you just here heard was just one

(02:08:46):
of several interviews and statements the Prime Minister dedicated to
Kirk in the wake of his killing, in an effort
to frame the late Conservative leader's legacy and a uniformly
pro Israelite. The major public relations push has occurred while
netting Yahoo wages a military campaign on seven fronts, punctuated

(02:09:06):
by our regional assassination spree that most recently reached into
the heart of cutter a us ally. Netan Yahoo first
tweeted prayers for Kirk at three zero two pm in
the afternoon on September tenth, minutes after news of the
shooting broke. He has since authored three additional posts about Kirk,
even breaking away from the Israeli war Cabinet to spend

(02:09:28):
the afternoon of September eleventh memorializing the Conservative leader on
Fox News. During that interview, Netan Yahoo did his best
to insulate that Israel or insinuate rather that Israel's enemies
were responsible for murdering Kirk, despite the fact that no
suspect was named or in custody at the time. The

(02:09:49):
Radical Islamists and their union with the ultra progressives. They
often speak about human rights, they speak about free speech,
but they use violence to try to take down their enemies.
On quote the Prime Minister told Harris Faulkner and a
September tenth post on Twitter eulogizing the conservative leader, the
Israeli Prime Minister described a recent phone conversation with Kirk.

(02:10:13):
He said, I spoke to him only two weeks ago
and invited him to Israel. Sadly that visit will not
take place. Left unmentioned was whether Kirk declined the invitation,
just as he did with the Prime Minister's offer to
reload tpusa's coffers with donations from his conterey of wealthy

(02:10:33):
American Jewish cutouts. At the time of publication, only a
twenty two year old resident of Utah has been taken
into custody after supposedly confessing to killing Kirk. The public
may soon learn the true motives of the alleged assassin.
Perhaps they will fuel the narrative which Trump and his
allies advanced in the immediate wake of the shooting, that

(02:10:54):
a leftist radical was responsible and that a wave of
draconian repression mess must follow. But after the shooter's initial escape,
and a series of federal law enforcement mishaps. A large
sector of Americans will likely never believe the official story,
nor will they ever know where Kirk's turning point on
Israel would have taken the conservative movement. Four days before

(02:11:18):
the assassination, frustration among pro Israel commentators bubbled over in
public during a Fox News interview in which Ben Shapiro
launched a chilling attack on Kirk without naming him. Quote
the problem with a big tent is that you may
end up with many clowns inside unquote, Shapiro told host
a Fox host and fellow gatekeeper Mark Levin, and an

(02:11:42):
apparent critique of TPUSA, he said, just because you're saying
somebody votes Republican, that doesn't mean that they ought to
be a preacher at the front of the church. They're
not the person that ought to be leading the movement.
If they are spending all day criticizing the President of
the United States, is covering up a massad rape ring,
or being a tool of the Israelis for hitting an

(02:12:03):
American or an Iranian nuclear facility. When Kirk took his
usual place at the quote unquote front of the church,
Four days later, he was cut down by a sniper's bullet.
Within twenty four hours of Kirk's death, Shapiro announced that
he would be launching his own campus speaking tour, vowing,

(02:12:26):
We're going to pick up that bloodstained microphone where Charlie
left it.

Speaker 15 (02:12:31):
I don't like Ben Shapiro at all. He will never
be able to fill Charlie's shoes.

Speaker 13 (02:12:42):
So there you go. That's the article. I think it's
pretty explosive and written by I guess Max Blumenthal. So
let's go to the Phone's got a couple of calls
on the line, and you're welcome to call in two
folks if you want six ten six hundred seventeen seventy six.

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That's six six hundred seventeen seventy six. Or toll free
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That's eight four four six. Govern Please stay on topic.
We'd appreciate that. Let's go to Massachusetts. You're on the air.

Speaker 45 (02:13:19):
Go ahead, please, oh, Hello, downn Hello, Vicky?

Speaker 13 (02:13:25):
Hi?

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Hi?

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Is it?

Speaker 27 (02:13:27):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (02:13:28):
Hi?

Speaker 43 (02:13:28):
Hi?

Speaker 46 (02:13:31):
Davin?

Speaker 45 (02:13:33):
Did I'm gonna ask you a question. I don't know
whether it's personal or not. You don't have to answer it.
But it's a pretty straightforward question. Did you ever could
Last time I called you, you said you go bay way
back with Abby n But did you ever meet John.

Speaker 13 (02:13:49):
I'm not talking about RBN today, Dave.

Speaker 11 (02:13:52):
No.

Speaker 45 (02:13:53):
Did you ever meet the late John stat Miller up
in Michigan when he lived in Michigan?

Speaker 27 (02:13:58):
No?

Speaker 13 (02:14:00):
No, Do you have something to say about what we're
talking about here? Because my patience is wearing thin. We're
not trashing our affiliates.

Speaker 45 (02:14:10):
I haven't trashed anybody. I'll ask you. I just ask you,
Chris Johnson.

Speaker 13 (02:14:15):
Do you have something to say about Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 42 (02:14:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 47 (02:14:21):
I do.

Speaker 13 (02:14:22):
Then say it.

Speaker 45 (02:14:23):
My question to you, my question to you? Can can
uh this American anti semitism? Can it all? Can it
more thing to just outright anti americanism?

Speaker 13 (02:14:37):
Do you think that we're supposed to go along with
whatever we're told? What is anti Semitism to you?

Speaker 45 (02:14:48):
Let me give you an example? Can I give you
an example?

Speaker 11 (02:14:50):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (02:14:51):
Please do?

Speaker 30 (02:14:53):
All right?

Speaker 47 (02:14:55):
A while back, when President Donald Trump was building up
on military forces on the island of Diego Garcia in
the Indian Ocean, preparing for his strike on the Iranian
nuclear facilities, do you remember that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
Of course you do.

Speaker 13 (02:15:12):
Huh yeah, sure, go ahead.

Speaker 42 (02:15:14):
Yeah, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 45 (02:15:17):
Doctor James Fetcher on Authentic News took a call.

Speaker 47 (02:15:20):
From Peter from Los Angeles, and they're both retired military officers,
Fetzer's retired Marine and Peter's retired Army. And these two
retired American military officers officers agreed among themselves that the
Iranian government should order the Iranian military to launch a

(02:15:43):
first strike on Diego Garcia on our American forces. Now
can you imagine such flagrant, fragrant treason.

Speaker 45 (02:15:54):
For for Fetzer and Peter military, retired American military officers
to urge.

Speaker 47 (02:16:00):
The Iranian government to order their Iranian military to wipe
out our forces to do a first strike and wipe
out of the American forces on Diego gotci.

Speaker 13 (02:16:10):
Okay, all right, here's the thing about this, Okay, I
see where you're coming from, the problem is, I didn't
hear the broadcast, and I can't respond to a broadcast
I didn't hear. I didn't hear it. I don't have
time to listen to other people's shows. But any beef
that you have with those broadcasters, you should call their
show and take it up with them. Do they take calls.

(02:16:33):
They must. I think most people take calls, so either
take it up with them, write them a letter. Whatever
the case. That doesn't involve me, Okay. All I know
is RBN. Listen. I'm gonna let you go because I'm
up against a hard break. All I know is that

(02:16:54):
RBN provides platform to a wide variety of broadcasters with
differing views. We're one of them, but there are many,
many others. So the issue you have is with a
particular broadcast net or a particular broadcaster, not with RBN.
And as far as what you brought up last week,
you know, why are they in dire streets financially? Maybe

(02:17:15):
because people like you don't give enough. Maybe you should.
Maybe you should instead of backbiting and complaining about them,
maybe you should open up your wallet and give, and
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When they repented and God showed them mercy, the Bible says,
Jonah was greatly displeased and angry. God's response, do you
have any right to be angry? Jonah thought he had
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phones before I talk us out of time. Let's go
to Lexington in Kentucky. Lexington, Kentucky, you're on the air.

(02:24:08):
Go ahead, Lease, did I not hit the button? Okay,
let's let's try this again. Sorry it didn't go. Hello,
you're on the air.

Speaker 30 (02:24:21):
You're talking to me now right. I'm actually in all
the targeted town of kim targeted town of Kim Davis. Okay,
we had the big time op ran on this town
when you know, the whole clerk that refused to put
her name on gay marriage licenses came up and they
really hit as hard wow, and with other things. But

(02:24:44):
there was you know, four of the clerks that got
a new word, including one that rode his bicycle all
the way arounds to the state of Kentucky to they's
awareness that our state did not support the clerks like
they did in other states like South Carolina, where they
put legislation ahead of game just to give the clerks
the option not to sign or have their name on

(02:25:05):
the certificate as the current clerk. So if you look,
you know, if you look into and what you were mentioning,
there the possibility that somehow Israel was directly or indirectly
involved in the basade or what I've heard called the
Talpiacht program. They keep track of probably as much or

(02:25:25):
more than everything of the NSA does to build x
keyscore files on individuals and targeted individuals. They keep the
data back more than five years, as I understand it, everybody,
and this is why the server farms are so huge
and are all over the world. I actually had a

(02:25:46):
bar carded lawyer that I was trying to get some
help for on the state thing. Tell me that most
of the countries around the world have defunded a lot
of their intelligence services because they can simply buy the
data that they normally had to pro year with human intelligence.
So it's been a heck of a cost saving, labor
saving situation. And William Benny points out that in about

(02:26:10):
nineteen ninety seven all the software was given to Israel
by a guy that was on the inside of the
NSA as far as we know, who's never killed or
assassinated or dealt with it all as an effect in
effect illegal under the table Foreign aid for all these
things called session zers, which then the NSA bought back
repackage repackage branded as NARIS and variant following initially had it,

(02:26:33):
and I don't know who's got now at and T
I think and Verizon had the variant and those things
slurp up just about every granular data on every individual
and phone call come and go in domestic or foreign.
They're stationed all over the country. They feed into the
cooperative effort called fusion centers, so you can get granular
data on any individual, including this kid, manipulate them, and

(02:27:01):
scrub the data where you manipulated them into shooting the guy.
So we know that. You know, there's some scant evidence
that that the manachuring candidate programs of k Ultra were
sort of defunded by Congress and everybody thought, well that's
over with.

Speaker 13 (02:27:21):
Well, yeah, we know it's not over with because Taulca
gabbared and I've got my problems with Taulca Gabbard, but
she just came out recently said mk Ultra never ended.
Did you see that?

Speaker 30 (02:27:34):
I missed that. I appreciate you telling me that, because
you know, there's obviously it's just ridiculous amount of stuff
to try to keep up with. But yes that there
was also a program called The Assassin on BBC four
or Darren Brown step by step goes to the process
as an illusionist and a hypnotist of creating a manchuring candidate.

(02:27:55):
He starts with an audience of something like one hundred
and fifty people, with US is down to four and
he actually gets I think four people to throw what
they think is acid on a innocent individual. Then he
takes two of those and little is it down to
one guy. And this is being used also as a
further attack on the Second Amendment. That's what I wanted
to bring up, is that the whether AI algorithm is

(02:28:18):
working on YouTube and other platforms. You can get fed
these Democrat Democracy Now or whatever videos for the interview
what looks like mostly black people saying that the Second
Amendment was intimately tied to keeping slaves from revolting. And
even you know, I'll be smirching Patrick Henry and others,

(02:28:39):
and we know goodwell that you know they came for
the guns. You know, that's what Lexington Green was about,
the breadcasts for marching to take the guns away from
the colonists. So this is just just reeks of blatant propaganda,
and they're seizing the opportunity to do that try to
tack you. You know, if there's a multi spectrum nonlinear warfare,

(02:29:01):
you might say, yeah, it's conservatives, and if it is
US in the mix. It served as a wonderful distraction
against their stuff in Yemen, as you mentioned earlier, because
nobody hardly knows about what happened in Yemen. I bet
a lot of people don't even know about the drones.
It supposedly might have accidentally, you know, maybe they flipped
the GPS coordinates around instead of going to Ukraine and

(02:29:21):
went into Poland. Right, So there's a lot of stuff
we're being distracted from by the Charlie Kirk Endless coverage
that Charlie Kirk. Yeah, I think that's interesting. What's your coke?
Your co host said that Doug Shapiro now is going
to take up the mantle.

Speaker 13 (02:29:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (02:29:38):
Well, if you've noticed, I pointed out to my mind
that was.

Speaker 13 (02:29:40):
That was that was what was reported in the gray zone.
And and and I agree with you. Let me let
me just say this regarding the Charlie Kirk Endless Charlie
Kirk coverage, I understand what you're saying, And yes, we
need to be careful that we're not overlooking something because
that this is what while everybody's distracted by, Yes, something important.

(02:30:05):
I do believe that Charlie Kirk coverage is important, but
at the same time, we also have to be aware
that that could be providing cover for something nefarious beneath
the surface. You know. So I can tell you right now,
this push for martial law, moving martial law, I mean

(02:30:25):
Trump's moving military units into Tennessee. Now very concerning, very worrying.
But go ahead, I'll give you another shot there.

Speaker 30 (02:30:36):
One last point is I pointed out, probably a year
and a half ago, to my son, who was really
gung ho about Dug Shapiro, who's following you. I said,
notice how he hides his yamaka and his black hair.
He's another uber Sionist. You have to consider him and
his supposed objective opinion as coming from a survivalist instinct.

(02:30:59):
The Intelligence Communion talks about how Israel has this overwhelming
survivalist instinct. They're willing to do anything, and unfortunately it
goes to you know, serve limits. And I think that
that's why her case you just said is about survive
or ten years they have. Yeah, also they willing to
do all right, Well, I'll let you go.

Speaker 13 (02:31:20):
Hey, thank you appreciate it, Mike, God bless you, sir.
Let's go to it.

Speaker 15 (02:31:24):
Well, let me let me say I think first about
the systems of surveillance, total information awareness. I think the
way they did this was to not market these systems
as surveillance and control systems. They marketed them as being

(02:31:48):
helpful systems. It's like community policing. The Community Policing program
was really about putting in systems for the police and monitoring,
you know, the kind of traffic systems and things. We

(02:32:10):
know that they have cameras everywhere, but these systems and
there was a decision on making these systems global. So
these are global systems and they are of surveillance and
control of people. And Peter Thiel is one of the

(02:32:36):
key people in terms of collecting this, collecting the data
and organizing the data to make it available. So yeah,
I mean it would be in every country. And what
USAID was doing was helping other countries to implement these

(02:32:58):
systems all over the world, you know, in the poor countries.

Speaker 13 (02:33:04):
Yeah, let's go back to the phones. Flint, Michigan. You're
on the air, Go ahead, place.

Speaker 42 (02:33:11):
They there, brother, a fellow Michiganian patriot here versus the Michigander.

Speaker 13 (02:33:22):
Okay, glad to see your surviving the Whitmer reign of terror.

Speaker 42 (02:33:27):
Oh yeah, really sick, me sick, perversely repulsive.

Speaker 13 (02:33:36):
What's what's on your mind?

Speaker 42 (02:33:39):
Yeah, well, expendable elite. See Charlie Kirk. I had not
kept track of his metamorphosis. And uh, there's no there
is no reasonable doubt that he was publicly executed.

Speaker 13 (02:34:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (02:34:04):
Yeah, Israeli.

Speaker 42 (02:34:09):
Israeli much. They pride themselves with unique, unique body shots,
and the neck is probably the most unique body shot.

Speaker 13 (02:34:20):
Yeah. I can't say that there's no doubt about it
because I can't prove that. And I have this problem
where I have to I have to make sure that
I'm fact based as best I can be, and and
so I can't say definitively that that's what happened. Okay,

(02:34:42):
I have questions about it absolutely, and and and to know, well,
let me let me just finish here and I'll give
you another shot. There no pun intended, but there's there's
enough reason to. I mean, whenever somebody is or in
this case, assassinated, if there are people around him that

(02:35:04):
were friends with him and or her, as the case
may be, but in this case it's a him, whenever
there's people around that person who hear them worry, pup,
worry openly that there is a thing that they're being
pressured about, and we're not hearing about it in the

(02:35:25):
general public. That's something that everyone needs to be aware of,
and that's something that we're not hearing from anywhere, from
the mainstream media to the so called private you know,
patriot movement, whatever the case. Okay, there were people around
Charlie Kirk where they said he was terrified of netnya

(02:35:49):
who and the Israeli government. Now that is something that
we all need to be aware of if in fact
that's true. And I don't think they would be putting
that in a great zone if it wasn't true. So
that's that's the issue here. So can we prove that
they were involved. No, but we certainly need to have

(02:36:09):
the data so that we can be you know, aware
and know what to watch out for, you know, pick
up on other potential clues. So that's kind of why
I'm putting that out there. So anyway, go ahead with
your thoughts please, I'm sorry.

Speaker 42 (02:36:26):
Well, there's a term for ponderance of evidence, Okay, So
in this case, it's circumstantial, right, it's circumstanced. We don't
have we don't have even a they're not going to
present bullet fragments artifacts. If there are shellcasings, most likely

(02:36:52):
those those were plants. And I have heard that there
were shellcasings covered with.

Speaker 13 (02:37:00):
Uh yeah, I was gonna ask about that. What do
you think of the what's the likelihood that a twenty
something year old kid, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:37:13):
That possible.

Speaker 42 (02:37:14):
This is perversely ludicrous, a perverse, kosher certified yam bojastan
Beelzebub frankin swine slime.

Speaker 13 (02:37:31):
H yeah, damn yeah, Well that's.

Speaker 42 (02:37:38):
An offering. This kid. This kid supposedly removes the barrel.

Speaker 33 (02:37:50):
He he.

Speaker 42 (02:37:52):
It's called break breaking down weapon. Oh really, I can
tell you from real world experience. Unless you have special
gunsmithing equipment and the gun is properly anchored in a

(02:38:13):
special vice slash support system, there's no way. And then
then then you need a very special uh uh wrench
to accomplish that task. And then uh yeah, in whatever

(02:38:34):
would an area where the so called assassin uh deposited it?
He he he reassembled it, and he would.

Speaker 13 (02:38:47):
That seems unlikely. Doesn't have more that seems very unlikely.

Speaker 42 (02:38:50):
He had the weapon broken down in his pants as
he as he descended the building, don't you know? Yeah, Okay,
this was this is totally and then then that Cionem
Francn swine, slim.

Speaker 2 (02:39:09):
Voodoo, juke zeb.

Speaker 42 (02:39:12):
Olde geyser, who's who's being removed by the cops, who
shouts out shoot me how many times? Three times? Forts
shoot me?

Speaker 11 (02:39:23):
Shoot me?

Speaker 13 (02:39:24):
Yeah, you're talking about the bald guy that they had cuffed.

Speaker 42 (02:39:27):
Well, yeah, Cionem, I can guarantee you there's a a
Talmudicabbola Franken, swine, slime, voodoo, juke zeb temple synagogue and
that immediate venue. Okay, the the private jet was id'd

(02:39:50):
to an owner that belonged to that that temple synagogue.

Speaker 13 (02:39:56):
Yeah. I I followed the jet story on. Fortunately it
would led me to a dead end. Hey, listen, I'm
gonna have to wrap this up because we're running out
of time. We've got a couple more calls. But I
appreciate you. I share your skepticism absolutely, but let's move
on in the interest of time. Let's go to California.

(02:40:18):
Now you're on the air. Go ahead, please, Hi, Hi
from California. Yeah, thanks for holding on. What's on your mind?

Speaker 46 (02:40:27):
Well, there's no doubt in my mind that Charlie Kirk
was being harassed and threatened, and that to do so
to get the word out it actually may be more
effective if he is believed to be dead. Okay, and
Ben Fulford on this issue, posted some footage that he

(02:40:51):
said was of the event and that it showed a
laser target being put on him, and that then he
went into some exclamation technical explanation. I didn't I follow that.
He said there was a blood pack, that this was
a theatrical thing.

Speaker 13 (02:41:05):
Yeah, I don't believe that. I don't buy that.

Speaker 46 (02:41:08):
Well, well, you might take a look at it. It's
currently posted on before It's News, where a lot of
interesting stuff does show up. Yeah, this will be akin
to the supposed damage to a man that they're presenting
as Trump his heir. That's not Trump. We know that's

(02:41:30):
not Trump.

Speaker 13 (02:41:33):
I don't know what you're referring to.

Speaker 46 (02:41:36):
That he may be more effective dead or appearance of
being dead.

Speaker 13 (02:41:41):
Yeah, I don't believe it. I'm sorry. I think he
was really assassinated. I think they wanted them out of
the way. Look, he was way too effect. He was
really genuinely reaching the young people of this country. And
what the other side doesn't know, or what the other
side does know and what they fear is if the
next generation is reached, you capture. It's just like Benjamin Kidd,

(02:42:05):
only on the other side of things. Give us the young,
give us the young, We'll turn everything around in the
single generation. See they know, and that's one thing they
could not have Charlie Kirk doing is reaching the young people.

Speaker 46 (02:42:20):
So well, no, not that possibility that it was a
sy off until you gather more information.

Speaker 13 (02:42:27):
Well, I'll look at whatever you want to show me
radio at Governamerica dot com. You want to send it over,
I'll take a look ahead.

Speaker 27 (02:42:34):
VICTI.

Speaker 15 (02:42:34):
Yeah, I would say, though Ben Fulford has been a
dis info person for decades, I wouldn't trust a word
that came out of Ben Fulford's mouth.

Speaker 13 (02:42:46):
Okay, I don't know the guy, so I don't know.
But anyway, thank you for the call. I gotta move
on because we're almost out of time. Thank you very much,
appreciate it. Let's go to Wisconsin now. Hello, you're on
the air. Go ahead, please, oh.

Speaker 43 (02:43:00):
Thank you for taking my call. This is Murr and
I have a radio show on RBN two to four
pm Sunday. I want to get this out for sure, Okay,
and tomorrow I'm having a guest named Roger Spur and
I'd like everyone to go to mud Fossil University his
YouTube channel. Familiarize yourself with that because he's been on

(02:43:20):
other podcasts and things. But he's so enamored with the
idea that we have an audience and he wants a
lot of callers, so we'll have the phone open the
whole time. But you need to be familiar with his work. Okay,
you'll go to mud Fossil University at YouTube. But what
I wanted to say about Kirk and his wife Erica
is I wasn't you know. I was so turned off

(02:43:41):
by by the way he stood by Israel, but he
had stopped doing that for a lot of reasons, but
also the strength of this marriage after watching her address
last night, and then YouTube gave me, well, it's the
breath of holiness putting it up there. But a show
with a two of them, and they regularly spoke like

(02:44:02):
mature adults. You know, I'm kept go eating for the punchline, right,
because that's all you ever hear, right, But they were
showing how to be mature adults and have a family. Yes,
this is what scared them to desk. You'll remember green
Blad of ADL said it's not the left and right,
it's the young and the old, and we've lost the young.
We're losing them, right.

Speaker 13 (02:44:20):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah about that absolutely.

Speaker 17 (02:44:23):
And and.

Speaker 43 (02:44:25):
Vicky there with Fulver, he's one of the tribe. Please
please people that man was executed and you can see
that it was dark blood because the juggler vein is
on the left side, so it was you know, returning
to the heart and lungs to free oxygen eight, where
if it had been the carotid on the right side,
it would have been frank, it would have been bred
with oxygen and ironed.

Speaker 9 (02:44:46):
You know.

Speaker 13 (02:44:47):
Yeah, I think a lot of these theories that put
forth were to discredit the entire movement. You know, I
think that a lot of people, and I wouldn't be
surprised if it wasn't intelligence establishment that themselves that put
forward some of these compiracy theories just so that they
can make us all look like a bunch of kooks.

Speaker 15 (02:45:06):
Just to confuse them.

Speaker 43 (02:45:07):
Well, really, the usury suspects, because the ones that control
the currency are behind everything they have to be to
keep this going, because it's such a nefarious way that
this whole system is supported. And maybe you've heard the
Satanic rituals they do. You heard, you know Nettnyahu Melakowski
is his real name, and he's saying, how, oh, you

(02:45:29):
know poisoned the wells?

Speaker 13 (02:45:30):
And yeah they did.

Speaker 43 (02:45:31):
And guess what this whole devot thing was by them too?
Who own those companies that were getting poison stabbed into people?
You know, people wake up. It's the same thing over again.
They don't want to lose control.

Speaker 13 (02:45:42):
Yeah, that's exactly.

Speaker 43 (02:45:43):
They are spread out all over the end. It's between
the darkness and light because not only maturity, but the
everything was about Jesus Christ, and you know, being a believer,
there are only believers and non believers.

Speaker 27 (02:45:55):
Yep.

Speaker 43 (02:45:55):
And Erica and Charlie talking sensibly as adults, human beings
that love Jesus Christ, and they each have different roles
and it was just it was amazing to listen to
one of their shows.

Speaker 13 (02:46:07):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Hey, thank you for the call. Unfortunately,
we're out of time. Blessings to you. Thanks for calling in, folks,
We're out of time. But she brings up a good point.
The family unit is under attack in a big way.
We also lost doctor James Dobson recently and he was
his host. Stick was promoting the family unit. In fact,

(02:46:30):
that that's what actually alienated him from his organization focused
on the family, because they wanted to accept a more modern,
contemporary thing that accepts homosexuality as a as a genuine family.
He said no, yeah, so he started his own organization again.
We got to go. We're out of time. Pray for
this republic, do what you can to restore it. Thank you, Vicky,

(02:46:52):
appreciate everything you do. God bless you folks, and we'll
talk to you again next week.

Speaker 15 (02:46:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 43 (02:46:58):
Darren.

Speaker 13 (02:46:58):
Yep, bye bye. He shun

Speaker 9 (02:47:02):
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