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Great Pets Radio - Episode 33 Great Pets Radio - Week of October 24, 2010



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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
This is the Great Pets Radio Show with professional dog
trainer Brian Kilcommons and doctor Jim mckeernon of the Great
Bay Animal Hospital.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
The Great Pets Radio Show.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Now here's Brian and doctor Jim.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Good morning, Welcome to Great Pets Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
This is doctor Jim Mckiernon seems like our show is
becoming more and more walk and roll.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Base these days.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't know who I get to thank or for
that one, but anyways, welcome to another edition of Great
Pets Radio. We are live and we are here to
talk about the health and behavior of your pet, which
is what we do every week. It's our little give back.
We enjoy it and we hope we help many of
our friends four legged and two legged and everything else.

(01:22):
The number again is one eight eight eight four four
to one nine eight seven six, And we welcome your
calls this morning. You know, it's we're gonna kind of
have a good show. We have a a new co
host with me as well. It's who I'm going to introduce.
But we're going to be talking a little bit today
about some interesting stuff. One is Halloween. I mean, what
does Halloween mean for you and your pets? And there's

(01:44):
a lot of good advice that we're going to be
able to give with it's for you today with your pets.
So it's not as simple as you think. There are
some good things. And the other thing people often talk
about is chocolate. You know, is chocolate save for our pets?
And I always get the calls and Monday morning, oh
he got into the chocolate.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
What do we do?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And so we're gonna we're gonna help you navigate through
that as well, because, uh, you know, chocolate is a toxin.
But thankfully it's a toxin that has to be taken
in a pretty sizeable amount to cause some effects that
we would be life threatening a lot of times. It's
just a little bit of a vomiting and diarrhea. Anyways,
I want to start the show by announcing a new
website where you can you can email us questions, and

(02:25):
it started last week and we're going to continue to
do so, and it would be my smart puppy dot com.
So if you get on my Smart Puppy, you'll see
a little spot that says questioned and you can email
question which we'll read off some of those today. Anyways,
I got a nice little email last week about a
woman who who is having a difficult time with her

(02:45):
pet insurance, and I think it's important and wanted to
bring it to my attention since I uh and I'm
paraphrasing her, since I endorse or I really like pet insurance,
and I want to bring this up because I want
to be very very clear on how this pet insurance works.
Pet insurance is not the panacea. It is not the

(03:05):
perfect way to go. It is not like you make
your thirty dollars payment a month and you don't have
to worry about anything. It's very similar to human medicine,
and quite frankly, maybe someday it might turn into that,
maybe it won't. They don't think it will. It's not
going to go manage care. But from your perspective as
a pet owner, there's a number of things to consider.

(03:25):
Number one, which do you choose? I don't know which
to choose. We have veterinary pet insurance on each week.
They're the oldest. I'm told they pay the quickest to you,
they're reputable. There's a fair amount of trust on my
end with them. But there's a lot of other ones
for you to look at. And then secondly is what

(03:46):
kind of plan did you choose? And you know, inherently
insurance companies that are in business to make money.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Wow, you know there's a surprise for us, but one
of them.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
But so sometimes they don't make it that for you
to get reimbursed. They may say, you require a diagnosis
from your visit, and we don't have that diagnosis, so
we can't reimburse you yet. So just consider that as
you're going through, which plan do I choose? What company
do I take? It is not the best way to go, however,
that said, do I recommend them? Yes to everybody. It

(04:20):
takes the shock out and it's going to make life
a lot easier, especially for those who you know whose
finances would be you know, riveted with that one thousand
dollars emergency visit.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
So anyways, that's my little rant on penshurance.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Actually you can get online too. There's an interesting thing
called pet Insurance review dot Com which uh which goes
through which helped me help you navigate through which plan
you want. So anyways, h that my co host for
the for the last two and a half years. Brian
has moved on to some endeavors, back to his roots
down back to New York. So in the meantime, we've

(04:58):
got a new co host on Great Great Pets Radio,
and I'd like to introduce her.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I think you may have.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Heard of here before, but she tell you a little
bit about her. She's she's got her master's from Leslie
College and her bachelor's from Imhurst. She has co authored
nine books on dogs and cats, and I say cats too,
because she, like me as is really a cat lover. Lectures,
she's lectured a toughs University, gloom Is Exposed, Guiding Dogs,

(05:25):
writing Eyes for the Blind, pet Sitis International American Consul.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Bottom line is she's been all around the country.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
She's actually she's very sot you know, when it's always
tough to fill a co host to someone of Bryan's stature,
and I think this was a I've done it. I've
done it today, So I'm going to pat myself one
in the back on that one. She's currently teaching all
over the country when she comes to to doing some
training for dog trainers. She's going to be a great

(05:51):
addition to the show and I'm just thoroughly excited that
we're going to have her. So when we come back,
I'm going to introduce our new talk show host for
a Great Pets Radio, and again we're going to continue
the same format of the behavior and medicine and she
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Speaker 4 (08:33):
Hey, welcome back to Great Pets Radio.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
This is doctor Jim McKernon and we are live eight
eight eight four four one nine eight seven six. Anyways,
I'm joined this morning with no other One of my
favorite people in the universe is Sarah Wilson.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Sarah, good morning.

Speaker 10 (08:48):
Good morning, So happy to be here.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
And welcome to the radio show.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
And we're excited to have you on a weekly basis
to come in and contribute to your I mean, I'm
gonna call it what it is.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
You've been doing this a long time. Yes, you're really
good at it.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Thank You've got to offer a lot of just a
lot of a lot of help for people.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
So we're really looking forward to that.

Speaker 10 (09:09):
We want to help people succeed with their dogs. They
love them and their cats. We all adore them. They
add to our lives and we just want to make
it better.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right, absolutely, Now, do you have a do you have
something that you like to do the most?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I mean, do you like dogs? You like cats? So
you like both?

Speaker 10 (09:25):
Like I like helping people succeed with their animals. Nothing
makes me happier than to make someone go, oh oh,
that makes so much sense because we all love them.
We want it to work, but we get frustrated by
minor things and we don't know how to fix it.
And that's my job is to help you learn how
to fix it so you can just enjoy your animal more.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Right, you know, I tell a quick Sarah's story, please,
I hope. So this is we're excited to have on
the show. But one time Sarah has a couple of horses,
and I went over the house and she was showing
me it was nice healing up on this horse that
got injured. Anyway, so she opens the gate of the
horse doll and she looks at her horse and she says,
come on out. The horse comes walking out. TEG does

(10:02):
a little circle. He's She looks at her horse and
she says, I and I stay there, and then she
continued to have a conversation with me.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Now never in my life. Have I ever seen that?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Usually you're supposed to put the little buckle on the
thing is you know, Sarah just says, stand over there
and stay there. I'll be right with you until I
finish up with Jim so Well Kaller type. Yeah, yeah,
I are good. So you go from cats, dogs, and
a little bit of horses as well.

Speaker 10 (10:23):
I love to work with the horses, and I learned
a lot about working with cats and dogs from working
with Nicky when he did have that horrible injury. It
took me to a new.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Level right now.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
One of the things over the years that I've done,
I mean, I've sent a number of people and I
continue to send people you away for dog training because
you do some dog training stuff on the side.

Speaker 10 (10:40):
Absolutely, yeah, yep, absolutely. My favorite are shy, insensitive dogs,
dogs that are from rescue and having hard time adapting.
That's one of the things I specialize in, along with
puppies as in my Smart Puppy. But happy to help anybody.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Now and if people want to get a hold of you,
I know they can people off and email me.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
But is there a website or is there?

Speaker 10 (10:59):
Absolutely my Smartpuppy dot Com easy to find me there,
or my smart Puppy at AOL or my smart Puppy
at Gmail. It all works, Smart puppy, my smart puppy.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I love that I still call kittens. All the cats
when they come in, I still call them kittens. How's
the kitten doing? People look at me funny, but I
don't know. To me, they're always kittens.

Speaker 10 (11:16):
Well, these methods work on everybody because they work on
all age people. Is what I tell people, all age dogs,
that it works on all age people.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So you've written nine books, yes, co authored right, Yes,
and you got one of the works.

Speaker 10 (11:28):
Not at the moment. I'm really focusing on my smart
puppy right now. So we have hundreds of articles and
video clips up. We're really trying to make an online
resource that people can use and enjoy.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't know how you do it. Nine books, but
a lot of them are really interesting. Dogology, Yeah, tell
me about that one Dogology.

Speaker 10 (11:43):
With Vicky Crok that was so much fun to do.
That's really about what your relationship with your dog tells
about you. So we broke owner bonds down into nine
different types and told people the pluses and minuses of
both types and just had a blast talk about the
types that are visible at dog parks. And it's fun.
It's funny, it's insightful. You'll see each other in it.

(12:05):
It's a good laugh.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And I did see you. I saw you on TV. Yeah,
I saw you. Oh yeahs knowing the cable.

Speaker 10 (12:13):
News, absolutely, the cable news that's on VICKI shows Secret
Life of Animals, a wonderful show. And you may have
seen me on PBS's Nature Why We Love Cats and Dogs.
That was a lot of fun to shoot.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
One of the things that you have a great ability
to do is to make behavioral problems, the solutions to
behavioral problems very simple.

Speaker 10 (12:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, And I think it's really I've seen a lot
of dog trainers who who are able to take the dog,
do what they need to do and then hand it
back to the owner and say see they're right, Yeah,
it can be done, and then the owners of the
dog saying, I can't do what you just did.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
So so much of it.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
And I'm noticing on your your bio here is teaching
it really is well.

Speaker 10 (12:56):
Teaching is in my blood. I come from a long
line of teachers, so that's how I think about and
I'm always thinking, how can I break it down into
two or three things that'll make a difference and will
make sense. I try to build on these sorts of
communications we have between each other, right, And so people go, oh,
I know how to do that, and I'm like, right,
do that with your animal and you're gonna see a
big change. And then we build.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, and everybody's different, and everybody's different on how they
look at their dog, the relationship with their dog and
everything else.

Speaker 10 (13:22):
And they're catsiing. I always say the best method on
the planet is the one you'll use. Yeah, it doesn't
matter how perfect a method is, if you won't use it,
it doesn't help.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Good point because there are so many different ways of
training dogs cats these days. I mean, let's face it,
there's there and a lot of them work.

Speaker 10 (13:37):
If you practice them, they work, that's really the bottom.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Line, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
But to be roped into one, you know, like, what's
the uh, what's the one that I saw?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
But the dolphins? The clicker?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, right, I mean I think if you are just
so click you know this is the only way to
do it, you're missing out.

Speaker 10 (13:52):
Well, we exclude people because clicking is a blast, and
I love to use the clicker but it can be
complicated when your beginning, and it can be frustrating. And
I don't want people to ever think training is complicated
or frustrating, which would be fun and easy.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
And it's an interesting little thing. What you do is
you basically have a clicker in your hand, yes, and
you click.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Which makes it a very loud noise right on good behavior.

Speaker 10 (14:19):
Yes. And the fun thing about that is it makes
people into good behavior hunters. And if people have been
thinking that training is about eliminating bad behavior, it can
really shift the way people think, which is great, but
it can be a little slow if people are having
frustrating problems that they want to see change with. So
I have a wide range of methods and tools I use.

(14:40):
I don't care. My goal is a happy dog and
a happy person, right, and whatever method and tool gets that,
I'm all over it. That's right.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
No, it's I mean yeah, I mean I've had such
a long experience with you and with clients who have
had good success with you, and hopefully that will continue.
So anyways, we are getting to the point where we loved.
What we like to do with the show is we'd
like to talk about current events, and one of the
kind events that's coming up next weekend is uh Halloween. Halloween,
So let's talk about that, because you know, Halloween and

(15:08):
your pets can be very very stressful.

Speaker 10 (15:13):
Very hard on the pets.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
It can be.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, I mean, let's let's here's an example. I have
how many houses you go to, you ring that doorbell
and all of a sudden you hear yes, Well you
do that in a course of you know, twenty nine
times over two hours.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
What you know, what do we do?

Speaker 10 (15:31):
Oh? The dog is then one of the things people
really need to keep in mind is that the dog
isn't joking. He's having a full body response every time,
and by the time it's over, it's as if someone's killed.
Boo to you twenty nine times, he's really worked up.
He's not at his most stables exhausted, he's exhausted, he's cranky.
And then when you open it, he sees people in masks.

(15:54):
He doesn't know it's a mask. I remember Cares, who
I adored, I was living on time.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now you're saying he now it could be she.

Speaker 10 (16:01):
Absolutely no, not picking, not picking, but I was swimming
one time and I had a face mask on, and
I had it up on my head, and Karris was
all happy to see me. I put it down. He
was right in front of me. I put it over
my eyes. I lifted it up. You would wag put
it down. As far as he's concerned, I'm becoming a
gargoyle before his eyes.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
So putting the dogs back in a safe area, give
them a treat by all means something a special chewy,
get them a toy, put set them up in the crate,
and let them skip all the confusion.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
So let's you just had a lot of information, and
I'm going to back you up, back up a little
bit on this. You mentioned the word crate. What if
people don't use crates, because quite frankly, a lot of
them don't.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
Sarah, I know, if the crate, they can be in
a bedroom if the dog's comfortable in there, but someplace
where the dog feels safe and relaxed. I would leave
some kind of noise maker on so they're not like
a radio or a tivy, so they're not hearing every
single bell ring and something that entertains them. A cang
that's got some treats in it, a raw height if
you feel good about that. Some people can't depends on

(16:59):
how your dog choose, but whatever some kind of treat
they enjoy, they will keep them occupied so that they
aren't sitting at the front door getting worked up and
worked up and worked up and worked up.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
End of the night comes as dogs like, thank god, Halloween.

Speaker 10 (17:11):
Is over, worse night of the year.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
And with my kids it's like my son Owen is
Kevin Yucleas. That's what his Halloween costume is. So he's
been thinking about this for three months and so.

Speaker 10 (17:23):
Has only he's such a great he's ready.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
So anyway, but what do you think about crates, Sarah?
I mean, should people who have dogs and should they
still use the crate?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, what do your thoughts on crates?

Speaker 10 (17:37):
I think it is a life skill that dogs need
to acquire because they may need to be in your
facility and be created after emergency surgery or something. And
I don't want them to be stressed if they need
to be created. So it's a life skill that I
leave the crate open for the rest of the life.
They can come and go. But I've had dogs skunked
and believe me, having a crate separate from your bed

(17:58):
is a big plus at that moment. So I think
a crate is a plus throughout a dog's life, and
in nights like this, it's a nice cozy spot that
they can hang out and relax.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Sure, I'm in agreement with you on that. Great I
think that creates should never go away, and if you
do it right, they become a home. They become a
place where they're happy to go to. You know, in
one of the ways. I've been over friend's houses before
and you invite people in and then all of a sudden,
the dogs like, you know what, there's a lot of
people here right now.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think I'm gonna need a break. I'm gonna go
where to my crate? Yeah, And that's.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
If you can get that it's a safe place. Anyways,
we have Cindy on the line from eastern Massachusetts. Cindy,
good morning, Welcome to Great Pets.

Speaker 12 (18:38):
Good morning, how are you well?

Speaker 10 (18:39):
Hey Cindy, Hi, Sarah, how are you good? Excellent? Nice
to hear your voice.

Speaker 12 (18:44):
Thanks, good to talk to you as well. I'm calling
about Lucy. Okay, she is chewing on her leg and
I don't know what to do to make it better.
Without the Elizabethan caller.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Who's Lucy tell us about eleven year.

Speaker 12 (19:00):
Old chocolate lab Mutt. He's a good girl and we
need to get her healthy chewing.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
All of her legs are one leg, just her.

Speaker 12 (19:09):
Back left leg on the outside ankle. She choosing it
and cries and choosing it and cries.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Has she had any surgery with that leg? No?

Speaker 12 (19:17):
I'm thinking it's a nervous chewing. And she does well
because we both work and they stay home all day
by themselves, and we have two dogs.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
Yeah, and when did this start?

Speaker 12 (19:30):
The Probably when we came back from France a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 10 (19:33):
Okay, my guess, and Jim will take this one. I'll
hand it over to him very quickly. But anytime you
have an adult dog that suddenly develops a new behavior,
I always think that check first, because she may have
arthritis or be painful at this age. So Jimbo, this
one's yours.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Well, you know I.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Would say that.

Speaker 10 (19:54):
Sorry, I know, I myself, Sorry doctor, doctor Jim.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
I have I have an employee to use the word dude.
The other day and I went, excuse me, dude. She said, well,
it would be better if I said doctor dude. I said, no,
you SHU wouldn't anyways, it'd joking eleven year old dog
to get something allesioned like that. A lot of times
it can be allergies or parasites, or it's psychosomatic in
other words, they're going at it. So allergies would be

(20:19):
a dog who's scratching themselves to be more full body,
you know, working all the legs, scratching underneath. You know
this food allergy, the seasonal allergy, and an.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Older dog that would be high on my list.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
But with one leg in the back, especially if you
went you were away. A lot of times they're getting
into what's called the lich granuloma where they're just doing
it out of bottom.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
So a lot of things. You know, Sarah just nailed it.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Everything we do is kind of we rule out medical
first and then we jump on the behavioral side.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
So if it's a big is there a big.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Patch of fur that's missing, yeah, yeah, we probably should
scrape it or someone down there should just scrape it
real quick. Make sure it's not like you know, demon
decked mites or something like that, and then you can
start and if everything looks good and when not showing
the signs of allergies, you can start going down the
behavioral road.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
Do you ever do a surround of painkillers prophylactically to
see if the behavior goes away. You're not worried about
arthritis or anything at this point.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
I not on that spot, no, okay, because if they
if they're I mean, if you tell me, you know,
what's your dog's name, Lucy, if you said you know
she's really sore getting up from a from a sitting position,
well she won't jump in the car. And that's why
I asked you if she had surgery, because sometimes if
they had like knee surgery on that back leg, sometimes
there's still a hardware in there that's kind of jiggling about,
and they'll start biting at it and things.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
You know.

Speaker 12 (21:37):
No, it's just sort of a worried behavior. It looks
like just the sort of gnawing on it.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, okay, I mean, I mean then behavior stuff.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
Then we need to get her entertained in other ways
and probably up her exercise a little bit and up
her structure structure, because if she was stressed, well you
guys were away, then giving her more structure and giving
her other things to do can really be calming to her.
She needs reassurance more and she needs attention and the
reassurance can be structure and knowing how her world works

(22:04):
and that everything is back to normal. So if you
were to email me over at my smart puppy dot com,
I could give you a whole layout of things you
could do with her, and we could help you through
until we found something that calmed her down and relaxed her.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah. I mean, I got to tell you as much
as I always I could go through, and I hate
to discount all the medical things. I really think it's
this one has a very strong possibility of being.

Speaker 10 (22:25):
Behavior and that's why it's fun that we have both
of us right it is.

Speaker 12 (22:30):
Well, thank you both very much and I will email
you at my smartpuppy dot com.

Speaker 10 (22:34):
Thank you, cynthy OK, make care.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, it's that is.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
You know, we talk about lick granularness when they show
up on one limb. It's very high on the list
as being the problem. But it's like horses who they crib.
They crib and they get high.

Speaker 10 (22:50):
Yeah, get self calming on the endorphins.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, got it.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
So they'll get endorphins, which is like a morphem based
product from their brain being released, and it's like that
runner who hits that fifth.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Mile and says, I feel good.

Speaker 10 (23:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
So these dogs get into it and they're biting themselves,
and they keep working.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
It and working it and working it. Okay, but you
gotta stop it.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
And sometimes you gotta put buckets on their head or eCos.

Speaker 10 (23:09):
Yeah, and she doesn't want to go that way. And
E callers in this case means Elizabethan callers, not shot callers, folks.

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Speaker 10 (24:57):
Welcome back to Great Pets Radio with doctor Jim McKiernan
and Sarah Wilson. We are here to answer your questions
and talk anything dog and cats. Love to hear from
you all and see if we can't make your life
and your pet's life better. We have a call right
now from Sharon in Maine, who I believe is three
dog mom. How you doing, I'm good, how are you?

(25:18):
Good morning?

Speaker 8 (25:20):
So you saw the beautiful German shepherd I posted.

Speaker 10 (25:23):
Yes, the ten year old.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he's now ten, he's not thirteen anymore.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
Oh yeah, well you know we all get younger.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
But so I'm just wondering what we took Sophie, who's
our forty pound dog, and then Jack who's twelve pounds
down yesterday to meet him and he's very excitable. Lots
of barking, pouncing around. But the only worry I sort
of had about him was with Jack, because Jack so
little is that he when they were being introduced and

(25:54):
they walked around and we didn't have them, you know,
do a lot of sniffing until he had settled down
a bit, which he does do of went at him
from behind with his mouth open m h. But not
like aggressive, but really I think like he wanted to
take a hold of him from behind.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
Yes, well, herting breeze often when they get stimulated, revert
to hurting behaviors, even if they don't exactly know why
they're doing it. And he looks to me to be
in East German or checks with Vakian bread shepherd, which
means they're going to be sort of higher drive and
higher intensity even in double digits than some of the
other sort of western uh West German bread and some

(26:33):
American bread German shepherd. So I'm not surprised. He's probably
a ton of dog and he would be a lot
to integrate into your particular family because you've got the
small uh terriers that are excitable and Sophie who's Sophie right,
and two cats, Yeah, and his thing.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
It says he's lived with dogs, cats, and rabbits and
is good with all.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
Well, it's just it's hard to know what that means
because sometimes foster have so many dogs and they organize
them very strictly that getting along well means didn't attack them.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
And don't I don't trust him that he came from.

Speaker 10 (27:11):
Oh that's his home, but still they placed him. Yeah, yeah,
so we don't really.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Know what went on.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I mean when I read it, when I read that, oh,
great with kids, great with dogs, great with cats, great
with rabbits, I'm always like, Okay, I'll be the decision
maker on that one.

Speaker 14 (27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
Yeah, you have to read the dog's body language. And
also with shepherd, so much of their behavior is based
on the relationship they have with the people that they
It might not have shown in that household. But then
when he's cut loose, he goes back to sort of
his original programming, and then he will calm down again
when he's in tight relationship again and structured, so he
could well settle. There's just no immediate way to know.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Right, And do you think that that hurting behavior though,
would translate into like aggression towards them.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
There's no way to know, but I know he's over
at the Animal Welfare Society does such a good job
in Maine, so you might be able to ask. Yeah,
they're and they're great. I really respect them and their work.
So if they're having a good time with him, then
I'm much reassured. But you might want to go back
down and see him around some of the cats in

(28:15):
the facility, or have him if they do playgroups, see
how he is in playgroups set up and get a
better idea, because he could have just been overstimulated, or
he could do this for his own entertainment. We don't
know that yet, but I do trust them a lot,
and i'd see him, uh, in more interaction so you
could make a better decision.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
Okay, Well, Mike's head back down there to look at
him again.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Oh good, I'd say, love is happening. Love is in
the air.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
Yeah, Well, he's gonna have to be Mikes. But I'll check.
So if he does that hurting sort of grabbing at
them again today, maybe it's just not a good fit
and I'll have to tell Mike he's too much.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
Maybe for our family, it's a lot to integrate, and
you've been doing a lot of integration lately. If I
remember correctly, Yeah, yeah, you do an amaz You don't
want to project well, I can tell you right now.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
He looks like one.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Alright, thanks for the call.

Speaker 10 (29:08):
All right, Keep us posted.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
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Speaker 10 (29:18):
They're wonderful. From my Smart Puppy dot com They're terrific.
Sharon is a wonderful, wonderful home, does done great jobs
with her dogs and cats and would be a great
home for any dogs.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So it's Saturday night. You're at your house, the doorbells ringing,
kit trick or tread. Everything's going okay. You got a
dog that's a lab who loves to eat, eat, Yeah,
And all of a sudden you look over and you
see your lab is very hyper excitable.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
He's just restless.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
He's running around the house, just just can't get himself settled.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
His heart rate has increased.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh he's that ping moy's muscle tremors, vomiting diarrhea.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
What do you think, wouy have happened?

Speaker 10 (29:56):
I want to see what happened to my box of
chocolate that I had by the doors. How much have
I got left?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
You got it?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
What we call that is we call that theobromine toxicity,
and that's what it does.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Now.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
It's usually about an ounce per pound for milk chocolate,
and we think about that, Wow, that's a lot. That's
pretty much a lot now, but it goes. How about
the semisweet chocolate, it's about an ounce per three pounds,
and then for Baker's chocolate, it's an ounce per nine pounds.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
So the Baker's.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
Chocolate is much more toxic.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's much much more toxic.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
So when we're getting into brownies, yeah, right, that's okay,
that's the big fear.

Speaker 10 (30:31):
Ah. And does the sad content have to do with it?
The brownies make it worse or no, it's all that's
about dark chocolate, that really really great dark chocolate.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Must be more risky, yes, the more exactly, that's what
it is. So milk chocolate, which is what most of
us get all the time, it's about an ounce per pound.
You're usually okay, inevitably you're gonna get diarrhea, that's what
we see. But so, but I can tell you a
quick story. I'll tell you my concern. Yes, on Halloween
is not so much that it's they get in to

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the entire bowl. Yes, it happened to me where there
were I was looked at and said, what happened to
all the Halloween candy that was by the front door?

Speaker 4 (31:09):
It was gone, g O n E gone, all of it.
Not a Charleston chew.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
Left, no paper wrappers, nothing.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
No paper wrappers nothing.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I walked downstairs and I looked over and I said, Katie,
my seventy five pound chesapeake And yeah, she so. My
fear is not so much on the chocolate a lot
of the times, but it's it's obstruction. So if they
eat all of that, we induced vomiting. We got to
come up.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
But and how do you do that? And should people
try that?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yes, well what I would I think the most important
thing to do is call it.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Either visit the.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Emergency VET number one if it's in the middle of
the night, call you a vet if they have if
they have service, to have them walk you through it.

Speaker 10 (31:55):
Okay, we'll poison control walk you through it.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Often often they might it I guess I don't know
the answer to that. Oftentimes they're going to tell you
what they were going to do is they'll tell you
what to look for in terms of clinical signs, and
they will work with your veterinarian on on to uh,
you know, to solve the problem. So like poulpe Puri had,
we had a we had a cat who actually licked

(32:20):
Pope Pri. You can, yes, yeah, very very caustic to
the tongue and skin and everything.

Speaker 10 (32:25):
If you could only see his face when he says
the word pot pourri, Well, what.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
It did to this poor cat was terrible.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
So we'll talk about that. I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
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Speaker 10 (35:40):
You were mentioning about pot pourri and it harmed the cat.
I had not heard this tell me about.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
It's the liquid form of pot pourris that people use
or you know, it kind of makes the house smell
a certain way, very caustic to the tongue.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
To this, it was just it was really yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
But in that particular case, the you know, the the
way poison control works as you call them up say
that you think this is what happened, and they work
with your veterinarian on the case. They say, okay, this
is how you would do it. AB's they'll cookbook through
you at the vet.

Speaker 10 (36:10):
So yeah, I would think any essential oils, which is
probably what's in the liquid form, is potentially dangerous to
cats or anything. You have to be really careful because
cats will lick it up and then they'll burn themselves.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I mean, and you know, the poison control their job
is to not treat. So their job they'll look at
you and say, you know what, that plant your cat
just ate that you're worried about is not toxic, so
you should be okay. But their job is to say,
you know what, these are the things you're going to
see this and you need to go see your vet.
Perfect and then they call the vet and they say, okay,
this is what we got. This is case number. We

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had them on the show a long time back. They
do good work.

Speaker 10 (36:45):
It's important work, isn't It always happens? Things always happen.
What on Sunday or the middle of the night. That's
just it.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
And I think they charge forty bucks.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
But to get that peace of mind, yep, for the
forty five I'm guessing forty five dollars, you know, to
know that everything's going to be okay, you know, on
that Thanksgiving Day, on that Sunday or whatnot.

Speaker 10 (37:04):
So yeah, interesting, nice to have the resources.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, well, it's yeah, And it's nice to you know,
be in a position where you're not going to say
is he okay?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Right, but you go to bed, is like, is he
gonna be eyed?

Speaker 10 (37:15):
That's right? I think?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I don't know, right, there's answers out there, and the
Internet obviously has a lot of answers for you as well.
So anyways, that's a little bit of the chocolate toxicity
we're going to talk about. Just you know, keep it
away from your dogs and the rappers. Again, if they
do get into the whole thing, call your vet. That's
something we need to take action on.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:32):
So if you got thirty little tiny rappers in there,
they can plug them, but good. And that's what you
mean by obstruction. They just plug them.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
But good. That's exactly whay it is. It's just yeah,
you're talking surgery.

Speaker 10 (37:42):
Yeah, and if you can get it up before it
goes into the gut, then you don't have it block
and they don't have to have surgery and have a
gut surgery.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
You got it.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
Yeah, I call that seven hundred dollars candy wrappers.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yes, at least well, you know, and that and at
least oh gosh, yes, oh my gosh, yes, and then
you know that's but that's why we have the's Pet
Insurance because it covers you for those type of activities
that your dog may get into.

Speaker 10 (38:04):
Yes, it's never what you expect that gets you.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
And you can you know, you can always tell the
frequent flyer dogs too come in all the time for
this stuff, you know, and you say, you know what,
you might want to consider that that plan.

Speaker 10 (38:15):
Yeah, since they eat rocks or whatever it is, they
swallow rocks.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh god, if we have this one little dog who
just won't stop, They won't stop eating locks. He's a
basket hound.

Speaker 10 (38:24):
Oh poor baby. I know a few of those, and
they have to go out with basket muzzles on just
to keep them from the rocks.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
He won't stop eating locks. I feel bad for the guy.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
Well, I would love to talk to him about that,
because the thing is that when dogs get into something
like that, the first thought we have is to focus
on the know of eating the rocks. And what happens
then is, since the dog has no way to succeed,
what they start to do is swallow the rocks faster
as you approach, because the only fun part of the
whole thing for the dog is the rock. So but
what you teach them is if you turn away from

(38:53):
the rock, you'll get a piece of steak. Now, when
you tell them no, they go, great, I'm going to
get a steak that's better than a rock. So we
can switch that around. But people's first intuitive thought is
to punish the rock eating, and that just gets more
swallowing of rocks. Interesting, yeah, yeah, they don't know it.
If you try to add punishment, and before an animal
understands what the positive alternative is, you tend to just

(39:15):
speed it up or it goes out of sight. The
dog learns you don't like it when you see me
eat rocks, right, so I won't eat rocks in front
of you. And then people say the dog's getting sneaky,
and I say, no, he's just well trained. No, he's
just been inadvertently well tried.

Speaker 13 (39:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
It's kind of like the dog.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
When you get home. People say, my dog gives me
that guilty look. Yeah, I know he's guilty. Just look
at his face. I can tell.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
And you know what, let's say that. Let's let me
give you an example.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Let's say he went to the bathroom in the living room, right,
you came home. Now he and you look at him,
and you're like, something's up right?

Speaker 4 (39:47):
What's he? What is he thinking? Is he thinking? You know? What's?
What's it? Dog thinking?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
You know?

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Poop and you is a bad thing.

Speaker 10 (39:53):
Usually it's that. It's sort of like if you were
living with someone who came home and periodically yelled at
you and got angry at you for reasons you didn't
quite understand. Then periodically he's that dog has absolutely associated
poop in the living room means I'm in trouble. That
doesn't mean he understands when I have the urge to poop,
I should go find my person who will let me out,
and therefore I will not have that problem. They haven't

(40:15):
made that leap. They just know that this angers you,
so now they're in trouble. It's a no win for
the dog, which makes them more nervous than when they're
more nervous. Guess what they do more?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, or you know, you get those people that
got to put their nose in them.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Like no, no, no, yeah, I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
All that's going to do is make them want to
go in the living room more away from you.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
Well, and it also makes you a scary person, and
now they will possibly defend themselves.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Where did that come from?

Speaker 10 (40:43):
Oh, from an angry human. That's all just an angry human.
Angry human happens. Yeah, I mean, that's that's just really
that's just not the way to go, not the way
to go. But there are other ways. And if you
are stuck in that cycle, call us and we'll give
you other alternatives that will work better. Because people only
do that when they're frustrated and they don't know what
else to do. Nobody says, oh, that'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Okay, So we talked about chocolate toxicity, We talked about
rappers getting into all that food.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
We talked about doorbells.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Maybe people can start, well, I mean Halloween's this weekend.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, but you can treat a trained dog that the
doorbell is a good thing.

Speaker 10 (41:18):
Right, you can teach them the doorbells a good thing,
or you can teach them the doorbell means run to
their bed, which is like in the hall right there,
and to sit there quietly. And we have a great video.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Clip on that wouldn't where where is it?

Speaker 10 (41:30):
Oh, mysmart puppy dot com. We will connect you. It's
not hard to do. You get a doorbell from like
home depot that you can ring automatically, and you just
make that the queue for running to the bed and
sitting there. It'll take you a week. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I want everybody just to close their eyes and imagine
that the doorbell rings and your dog takes off, goes
running over it to its bed and sits there and waits.

Speaker 10 (41:49):
Yes, And it's not hard to do. They don't know
what else to do. The one last thing I want
to mention about Halloween is to be really careful with
your cats, especially black cats, and to keep them safe
because the door opening and closed, they can scoot out,
and you don't want your cats out on Halloween nights.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
You know. Plus you might get some knuckleheads out there too,
you know, people that are going to, oh, it's a
black cat. Let's do something that we normally you know,
it's not healthy for the cats.

Speaker 10 (42:11):
Oh no, no, we have to protect all our animals,
especially black cats all so.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Keep them in, keep you all your pets indoors. That's
that's a great good advice.

Speaker 10 (42:18):
Sarah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Hey is doctor Jim mccarny with Great Pets Radio. It's
Sarah Wilson. The number is eight eight eight four four
one nine eight seven six and we'll be back after
this break.

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Welcome to Sassy Seniors, the show about our fabulous.

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Older dogs and cats.

Speaker 16 (43:09):
I'm your host, Kelly Jackson. You know, I wanted to
create a show to really showcase our senior pets. And
you know, us, a human population ages and lives longer.

Speaker 10 (43:18):
Of course, so are our wonderful pets.

Speaker 16 (43:20):
But many of us with Asian pets, it's so interesting
we have a tough time realizing or really admitting that
they are seniors. So in a way, I'd kind of
like to think of our senior pets as as wise puppies.

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What do you think about that?

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Welcome back to Great Pets Radio, says doctor Jim McKiernan
with Sarah Wilson.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
Yes, happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Sarah Wilson our new co host for Great Pets Radio,
and we are as usual. We'll be back every Sunday.
At eleven o'clock to talk about the health and behavior
of your pets. It's because we like to do that
every Sunday towards the end of our show. We have
on Kachiko Valley Humane Society, and we do that in
an attempt to try to find and I'm going to
be very selfish on this one.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
I'm very upfront with you. I'm trying to find a
pet at home.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
As much as we like Karen from Kachiko, it's all
about getting that pet a home. So Karen joins us
as she does every Sunday, to talk about a pet
that tickles her fancy to see if we can't get
this pet home.

Speaker 10 (44:44):
Hello, Karen, who have you got today?

Speaker 8 (44:47):
Hello?

Speaker 11 (44:47):
I have a great German short hair pointer mix named Gomer.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Karen.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
What a great name.

Speaker 11 (44:53):
Yeah, he's fun. Sarah, Hello, Sarah, welcome.

Speaker 10 (44:59):
Thank you to be here.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I do that when I go down the Dan Vay
Show and I'm busy in Boston every couple of months.
Every time someone calls in, he makes them say hello,
to say.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Hi to Jim. So I just figured i'd do that.
But tell me, but tell me what you guys about it.

Speaker 11 (45:15):
He's he's fantastic. He's about he's between one and two
years old. We're not sure he's astray that had come
in and was not reclaimed. But he's got a great disposition,
very happy, silly, playful dogs, very willing, good with cats
and dogs here and seems to like kids too.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
So he's a one to two year old kind of
altered male German shorthead pointer.

Speaker 10 (45:35):
Yes, mixed with something we don't know what makes with.

Speaker 11 (45:37):
Something bigger than that, but we're not really sure what.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
But he's happy, he's very.

Speaker 11 (45:41):
Happy, he smiles, he plays.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Oh my gosh, you know what, I might come up
and look at this guy.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Oh, absolutely good with other cats, you think, dogs, How
are we doing?

Speaker 11 (45:51):
Yep, he's been good. He's in a play group with
several dogs right now, loves it. And he's met our
resident cats and done really well with them.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
So oh boy, So he's a winner. So the dog
dog's name again, Gohmer.

Speaker 10 (46:02):
That's such a great name for a dog like that.
Just you know, he's a big, floppy eared, big pod goof.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
I want to kind of put in a plug for
the blind dog. Oh yes, do you still have nim?
Did he find out? Did he find a home?

Speaker 11 (46:14):
Yet he has not. No, he's still waiting. And his
name is Balto Andrey Balto.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Some people call him Ray, but it's a it's a
beautiful husky. I'm guessing four to five years of age
up there.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
That is blind.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
He's got mature cataracts, but he's he's a dog that
does deserve a good home. And he really can live with.

Speaker 10 (46:33):
Oh and blind can be worked with very, very easily.
That is not a limitation to their ability to love
or be loved or be a lovely companion. Yep, you
can absolutely enjoy them fully.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
And he loves to go for walks. He loves to
go for car rides. He loves women. I mean, you know,
it doesn't dislike men, but when he hears the woman's voice,
you see the tail going.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
So as anyway, his name is Balto, and check him out.

Speaker 11 (46:57):
He's you know, he gets around great here, navigates for himself.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, he just he likes life, all right, So keep
up the good work, you.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Gohmer's the name.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And by the way, Gomer, if you do adopt out Gomer,
your dog will get a complimentary SPA treatment, isn't that right?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Kay?

Speaker 10 (47:14):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (47:15):
A chaos all right?

Speaker 8 (47:17):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (47:17):
How nice have a great day.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Ky, So every dog that got every pet of the week.
And so in this case, Gomer, if you adopt out Gomer,
you can bring them right down to Anne Nichols at
Canine Chaos and Newington and she will give this dog
the extreme makeoff.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
I call it.

Speaker 10 (47:33):
Oh, that's so nice of Canine Chaos to offer that
to people. That's lovely. It makes a big difference.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yeah, it's not that the dogs need it, but I
mean it's their way of we're all trying to.

Speaker 10 (47:41):
Help to giving back.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah, give back, give these dogs a chance.

Speaker 10 (47:45):
And there's so much to be done with blind animals.
It's there are lots of internet resources. Come over to
my Smartpuppy dot com. We'll tell you what to do.
But don't let that scare you off. The dog would
be great.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
That dog's name is Balto and that's a good endorse.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Because of that dog, I fostered it for a little
while and it does deserve a home.

Speaker 13 (48:04):
Well.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Anyways, we are wrapping up our show. Sarah Wilson. It's
great to have you on the show.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
I'm thrilled to be here and I thank Brian for
recommending me, and I look forward to moving forward.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yes, and if you have questions during the week, you
can get on the website of my Smart Puppy dot com. Yes,
sir and click on what is.

Speaker 10 (48:21):
It Forums, anything forms where our community is all right.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
So on behalf of Soarah Wilson. I'm doctor Jim McKiernan
from Great Pets Radio. We'll do it again next week.
Have a great week, everybody, take care.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
You've been listening to the Great Pets Radio show.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Join Brian and Doctor Jim next Sunday for more informative
pet talk.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on petlife
radio dot com.
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