29. B2:C2 pt2 - The Council of Elrond - Gandalf's Tale & the Purpose of the Council - [LoTR Read-Along]

The Nicks fall into a meme-hole, discuss the doings of Gandalf and Saruman, and finally get down to brass tacks to decide what is to be the fate of this Council... and The Ring.

THIS JUST IN!

A COUNCIL HAS GATHERED….TO COUNCIL....

ELVES, DWARVES, MEN, AND HALFLINGS TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF!

DELIBERATIONS ENSUE AND STORIES ARE TOLD -- INCLUDING BILBO'S!

ISILDUR'S BANE REVEALED!

WHY ARE WE HERE?

CAN ONE SIMPLY WALK INTO MORDOR, AND WHAT IS GANDALF'S STORY?

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Notes for this episode

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The story in this chapter

• Gandalf's Tale:
  • Gandalf has the longest part to tell - but he has done the most to understand the enemy, the Ring, and to set in motion the tale we now read.
  • Saruman
    • The Rings and their jewels or lack thereof
  • Hunting for Gollum
  • Saruman knew of writing upon the Ring - but what is the source of his knowledge
    • Who else but Sauron held the Ring? Isildur
      • That means Minas Tirith might hold a clue
  • Abandoning the chase to go to Gondor!
    • Denethor not very welcoming
  • The scroll of Isildur describing the "fire writing" unknown language - but eleven letters
  • Gandalf HAS tested the Ring
  • Speaking the words of Mordor - of the Ring
  • Gollum did go to Mordor
    • He was forced to spill his guts about the Ring
    • The servants of the enemy have been to the Shire, and now know - perhaps the enemy already knows - that the Ring is in Rivendell
  • Gollum imprisoned with the Wood Elves
    • Definitely still full of mischief
  • Legolas speaks up in distress
    • Gollum has escaped
    • How so? Was it coordinated? Did he have help? Or was he just being opportunistic?
    • Gollum is cunning, escapes the skill of the elves to track
    • Heading to Dol Guldor
    • Gandalf - Gollum may have a part to play yet - Tolkien keeps insisting on this - it must mean something
  • What of Saruman?
    • Drawn to Orthanc by the message of Radagast (taken advantage of my Saruman) - Tells of Nazgul
    • The Nazgul keep asking for the Shire
    • Saruman summons Gandalf to give him "aide"
    • Radagast to send messages
    • Bree - stopped at the Prancing Pony (when was all of this?)
    • To Isengard - Orthanc - Built by Numenor - At the Gap of Rohan
    • Fear fell on him inside Isengard
    • Saruman the White or…. Many Colors
    • Saruman feels that Gandalf has been hiding information in the Shire
    • Saruman has contempt for Radagast … and Gandalf… and their colors
    • "Saruman the Wise" "Saruman ring maker" "Saruman of many colors"
    • White - can be broken - or - is perfect
      • Leaving the path of wisdom
    • A choice
      • The world of men which we must rule
      • We need power
      • "WE"
      • "There is no help in elves or dying Numenor"
      • Join with that power - there is hope that way - and rich reward
      • Join the evil way despising the many evil things biding their time to come to their true purpose.
      • Knowledge, Rule, Order
      • No change in designs - only in our means
    • The Ruling Ring - "If WE could command that, then the power would pass to US."
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