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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Hammry Nigel show. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer.
Right over there. We'll go straight to the highlight and
bring on bright Bart editor in chief Alex Marlow. He's
the host of the Alex Marlow Show. Alex, hope you
had a great Thanksgiving. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm doing great? Thank you for having me back on
the show. Everything's going great in my life. I'm in California.
So it's fifty degrees here.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And they ye, yeah, we woke up. We woke up
to a fifteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, that's where crossed at the threshold. So I spent
eight years on the East Coast and DC Virginia area. Right, Yeah,
so I saw my share of snow and cold for
a California boy. But once it dips below twenty, then
it gets a little oppressive. I gotta admit I.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mentioned you're the host of the Alex Marlow Show. I
happened to be watching when you were you reacting to
this breaking news in real time during the show last
night about this UK plot to destroy bright Bart. Can
you expand? And we were going to cover a bunch
of stuff today with this interview, but this we got
(01:03):
to start with.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
This, Yeah, I got a heads up they reached out
to us. I didn't know when the piece is going
to come out, but they had reached out to say
that they were going to be doing this reporting. And
so this website Dropsite News, which is run by a
guy named Ryan Grimm, who is a pretty good reporter.
He's on a left, but he's got a populous anti authoritarian,
(01:25):
anti establishment streak, so he gets a lot right. And
he was reporting on these findings from this book that
was being put out by a actually South African journalist
named Paul Holden. And the book, which is called The Fraud,
is about Keir Starmer and his rise in the UK.
(01:45):
Is the Prime Minister now? And what's amazing in the
book is it traces back just a few years ago
how Keir Starmer's top guy, his right hand person. So
the person who right now is the single most powerful
non elected person in the UK, guy named Morgan McSweeney,
quarterback to campaign to destroy Breitbart News as well as
(02:07):
a few other outlews. And the origins of the campaign
was Starmer was in a fight for the Labor Party
that lead the party with a guy named Jeremy Corbin
who might be vaguely familiar to your audience. He's a
very hard left guy and you get a little popular
streak to him, so not everything he says is horrible,
but overall he's big government, leftist, very anti Israel, so
(02:29):
he doesn't vibe with us at Breit Barb at all.
But Starmer was trying to stake out his claim to
the party and so we started taking out all these
anti Corbin news sites and using the power that he
has to try to do so via this guy McSweeney,
and the campaign ended up really focusing on brightbart News
because they expanded it to conservative outlets, even American ones,
(02:50):
so other outlets like zero Hedge, the federalist things that
some of your audience certainly reads, and Breitbart was the
tip of the spear for this is always the case,
and so they were just trying to basically put us
out of business, making so I couldn't feed my kids,
which it's hard for them to do that in the UK,
but our UK Bureau is very powerful, it's very influential.
(03:10):
Nigel Farage, as I'm sure I've said on the show
at some point over the years, has said that Brexit
would not have happened without Bripear London or London Bureau.
So we're a real threat to the establishment there. But
we're always above board, we're always honest. We're serious journalists,
and it did strike us as surprising that there was
this robust of an effort and then the guy goes
(03:31):
on to become the Prime Minister Bripe.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Our editor in chief, Alex Marlow, host of the Alex
Marlow Show here on the Hammer of Nigel Show. Let
me give you something locally here in Indiana, but it's
a macro issue. It's this push for states to redraw
the congressional maps to pick up more seats in the House.
There's a rally, turning point action, turning point USA. Whatever.
(03:53):
Had a rally at our state House earlier today. JD.
Vance has been here twice held. We had the Guvner
in our studio with us drinking beer yesterday pushing for
redistricting and there's some votes about ready to go down.
How important is this?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
When the governor stops by our studio, it's usually his
last event for the day, so we make sure to
have middle lights ready for him. We take on this
and the Miller lights too.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You guys are pretty good like craft beer area.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, tons tonsies. Yeah, but we keep it, we keep
it simple for the gov. But he was in here yesterday,
you know, pushing for redrawing the maps. How how big
a deal is this for Donald Trump and the administration
And what's your analysis?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's massive. I mean it's a we need every vote
we can get. Just remember the left does not play
by the Marquis of Queensberry rules. They believe political victory
is the single most important thing to them, more important
than faith, family, vocation. They want to win politically, so
no that they will at any chance. They've got draw
(05:00):
up districts in order to maximalize their chance to win elections.
If we don't do the same thing, we are fools.
We are fools. There's nothing uneffical about it. We have
a rich history in this country of to the victor
goes to spoils you win. You can redraw districts when
the time is right. And if we don't do this,
we could be sacrificing seats. And I'll tell you, I
(05:21):
think the midterm election is going to come down to
it's gonna be in a razor's edge and if we lose,
then it's going to be NonStop impeachments, NonStop investigations, nothing
in the agenda gets done, or the last two years
of Trump are going to be more of Trump's agenda.
So if you are standing in the way of more
conservative Republican MAGA seats in the twenty twenty sixth election,
(05:43):
then you are part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Speaking of Trump's agenda, is it me or am I
saying like corporate legacy media is saying that MAGA is
fractured and it's chaos within the walls of the White
House and Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War is the
new boogeyman? Am I crazy? Or am I saying more
of that?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, it's interesting because I get I hear a lot
and it's hard to know what's true. And I'll tell
you that there's obvious fissures in MAGA online. I think
that's that's clear. A lot of maga's most popular figures
have just I think shdden They're starting to really focus
(06:22):
on completely irrelevant subject matters and nothing that has to
do with us winning life.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And Shapiro versus Tucker Carlson versus Candice Olins.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I don't have a big appetite for all of it.
And even though some of these people I like a lot,
and I find myself disagreeing with them, and some of
them I like not at all, I find myself agreeing
with them, and that's always weird too, But it's the
that's not helpful, because we've certainly lost sight. I think
as a grassroots that the problem is the left, and
(06:52):
the reason why we all hate the establishment so much
is because the establishment enabled the left to win, because
the Republican establishment was so weak and so corrupt and
so their priorities are so out of order that they
would just allow for the country to lurch left and
lurch into an era of much bigger government, to endless wars,
and then growing a growing state via the deep state,
(07:15):
be our crazy healthcare prices that we have via the
Affordable Care Act. All this is enabled by a weak
Republican establishment. So the point is is that if you're
not focused on the left, then I don't have a
ton of time for you. But that's exactly what we've
done over the last couple of months, is we've gotten
very snippy with MAGA and not focused on the real
problems in this country, which is sad, but I also
(07:39):
think some of it's just content, so I'm not a
total gerer in this regard. I think some of it
just people trying to trying to get attention for their
podcasts or their social accounts. And I don't take it
totally seriously. I'm paying attention to it, but I got
to say, I'm not saying that all is lost. I'm
still optimistic that we'll all get focused when the time comes.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You mentioned endless wars, and it just reminded me. It
does seem like another thing that corporate media is perpetuating
is the idea that the United States is going to war,
full on, boots on ground with Venezuela, with the with
the narco terrorists. That's not really a thing, is it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't think so, And I'll reserve, you know, a
ten percent hedge on this. But from my read right now,
this is a kil mar a brego Garcia part two.
This is the latest hysteria. Everything Pete Heeksas did was
above board and on target, literally and figuratively speaking. Bombing
drug boats is a ninety seven to three issue. They
were drug boats, they were in a drug deal. It
(08:37):
is not a war crime. It's not even a war
that's going on, but it can't be any war crimes
the war.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Somebody it should tell Hakeem Jeffries that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, And I think that this is just another attempted
media hysteria slash hoax, and we're getting the better of them.
So I think this is a great I said this
on my podcast, and I'm feeling very good about this
that when the second story started bubbling up, I said,
I think this is I think the left is falling
(09:05):
for a trap here. I think Trump is laying out
a trap. He's with those ninety seven three issues and
he's letting them drag this out a little bit. And
I think that's how it looks today.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Looking back on twenty twenty five, The biggest l for
the Democrats, my opinion is the Schumer shutdown. Would you
tend to agree?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, it's hard to say what's the biggest because they
don't have really any major wins. I guess they get
picked up some of those midterm wins. I think the
clearest l is the shutdown. That's the clearest. Okay, so clearest,
So I would agree with that. That's one where they
just simply they shut the government down a huge Republicans
of it, even though they were the ones voting to
shut it down, and then after a record shutdown, then
(09:48):
Democrats vote to open the government. So I don't see
how they say faced it and they got nothing for it.
So I guess that's definitely the clearest l. The biggest
l though, for them, I do think is that there
they have no bench for twenty twenty eight and Yavin
Newsom has no record. Unless you just like men beating
(10:09):
women in sports. Kamala Harris completely exited the scene, but
a judge is a huge joke. Their biggest star by
a mile. They're by far the most talented politician is
a Ugandan immigrant who cannot run for president ever, so
Zira Mom Donnie. So they're they're they're pretty They're pretty
trapped for twenty twenty eight, which I think is you know,
(10:30):
all this will change, It can and will change, but
they have this should be pretty desperate at.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
This point, and by all accounts, before we let you go,
Trump have a good first year.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I give him a very high mark show first year.
It's a certainly the above, you know, the A level.
For me, I think that there's a couple of things
we could be perfect. On Epstein thing was a problem.
I think it hurts with the base energy, but overall,
I think it's foreign policy continues to be a plus,
the best I've ever seen. And domestic Paul, we got
to tackle some of the supportability stuff, but part of
(11:02):
that's just messaging. Part of it is a lot of
things have gotten better, but the word hasn't gotten out yet.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Breitbart dot com Bridebart Editor in chief Alex Marlow. Where
can people find the Alex Marlow Show? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah? YouTube, Apple, wherever is your favorite place? Get podcasts?
Rumble and Spotify to if you prefer over there. That's
all great. And Brypert dot com get the break part.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
App Alex, have a great Christmas and a happy New Year. Man.
We'll talk to you next year.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You guys are the best. We'll see you next year.
So Hammry Nigel show. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer.
Right over there. We'll go straight to the highlight and
bring on bright Bart editor in chief Alex Marlow. He's
the host of the Alex Marlow Show. Alex, hope you
had a great Thanksgiving. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm doing great? Thank you for having me back on
the show. Everything's going great in my life. I'm in California.
So it's fifty degrees here.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And they ye, yeah, we woke up. We woke up
to a fifteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, that's where crossed at the threshold. So I spent
eight years on the East Coast and DC Virginia area. Right, Yeah,
so I saw my share of snow and cold for
a California boy. But once it dips below twenty, then
it gets a little oppressive. I gotta admit I.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mentioned you're the host of the Alex Marlow Show. I
happened to be watching when you were you reacting to
this breaking news in real time during the show last
night about this UK plot to destroy bright Bart. Can
you expand? And we were going to cover a bunch
of stuff today with this interview, but this we got
(01:03):
to start with.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
This, Yeah, I got a heads up they reached out
to us. I didn't know when the piece is going
to come out, but they had reached out to say
that they were going to be doing this reporting. And
so this website Dropsite News, which is run by a
guy named Ryan Grimm, who is a pretty good reporter.
He's on a left, but he's got a populous anti authoritarian,
(01:25):
anti establishment streak, so he gets a lot right. And
he was reporting on these findings from this book that
was being put out by a actually South African journalist
named Paul Holden. And the book, which is called The Fraud,
is about Keir Starmer and his rise in the UK.
(01:45):
Is the Prime Minister now? And what's amazing in the
book is it traces back just a few years ago
how Keir Starmer's top guy, his right hand person. So
the person who right now is the single most powerful
non elected person in the UK, guy named Morgan McSweeney,
quarterback to campaign to destroy Breitbart News as well as
(02:07):
a few other outlews. And the origins of the campaign
was Starmer was in a fight for the Labor Party
that lead the party with a guy named Jeremy Corbin
who might be vaguely familiar to your audience. He's a
very hard left guy and you get a little popular
streak to him, so not everything he says is horrible,
but overall he's big government, leftist, very anti Israel, so
(02:29):
he doesn't vibe with us at Breit Barb at all.
But Starmer was trying to stake out his claim to
the party and so we started taking out all these
anti Corbin news sites and using the power that he
has to try to do so via this guy McSweeney,
and the campaign ended up really focusing on brightbart News
because they expanded it to conservative outlets, even American ones,
(02:50):
so other outlets like zero Hedge, the federalist things that
some of your audience certainly reads, and Breitbart was the
tip of the spear for this is always the case,
and so they were just trying to basically put us
out of business, making so I couldn't feed my kids,
which it's hard for them to do that in the UK,
but our UK Bureau is very powerful, it's very influential.
(03:10):
Nigel Farage, as I'm sure I've said on the show
at some point over the years, has said that Brexit
would not have happened without Bripear London or London Bureau.
So we're a real threat to the establishment there. But
we're always above board, we're always honest. We're serious journalists,
and it did strike us as surprising that there was
this robust of an effort and then the guy goes
(03:31):
on to become the Prime Minister Bripe.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Our editor in chief, Alex Marlow, host of the Alex
Marlow Show here on the Hammer of Nigel Show. Let
me give you something locally here in Indiana, but it's
a macro issue. It's this push for states to redraw
the congressional maps to pick up more seats in the House.
There's a rally, turning point action, turning point USA. Whatever.
(03:53):
Had a rally at our state House earlier today. JD.
Vance has been here twice held. We had the Guvner
in our studio with us drinking beer yesterday pushing for
redistricting and there's some votes about ready to go down.
How important is this?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
When the governor stops by our studio, it's usually his
last event for the day, so we make sure to
have middle lights ready for him. We take on this
and the Miller lights too.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You guys are pretty good like craft beer area.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, tons tonsies. Yeah, but we keep it, we keep
it simple for the gov. But he was in here yesterday,
you know, pushing for redrawing the maps. How how big
a deal is this for Donald Trump and the administration
And what's your analysis?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's massive. I mean it's a we need every vote
we can get. Just remember the left does not play
by the Marquis of Queensberry rules. They believe political victory
is the single most important thing to them, more important
than faith, family, vocation. They want to win politically, so
no that they will at any chance. They've got draw
(05:00):
up districts in order to maximalize their chance to win elections.
If we don't do the same thing, we are fools.
We are fools. There's nothing uneffical about it. We have
a rich history in this country of to the victor
goes to spoils you win. You can redraw districts when
the time is right. And if we don't do this,
we could be sacrificing seats. And I'll tell you, I
(05:21):
think the midterm election is going to come down to
it's gonna be in a razor's edge and if we lose,
then it's going to be NonStop impeachments, NonStop investigations, nothing
in the agenda gets done, or the last two years
of Trump are going to be more of Trump's agenda.
So if you are standing in the way of more
conservative Republican MAGA seats in the twenty twenty sixth election,
(05:43):
then you are part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Speaking of Trump's agenda, is it me or am I
saying like corporate legacy media is saying that MAGA is
fractured and it's chaos within the walls of the White
House and Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War is the
new boogeyman? Am I crazy? Or am I saying more
of that?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, it's interesting because I get I hear a lot
and it's hard to know what's true. And I'll tell
you that there's obvious fissures in MAGA online. I think
that's that's clear. A lot of maga's most popular figures
have just I think shdden They're starting to really focus
(06:22):
on completely irrelevant subject matters and nothing that has to
do with us winning life.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And Shapiro versus Tucker Carlson versus Candice Olins.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I don't have a big appetite for all of it.
And even though some of these people I like a lot,
and I find myself disagreeing with them, and some of
them I like not at all, I find myself agreeing
with them, and that's always weird too, But it's the
that's not helpful, because we've certainly lost sight. I think
as a grassroots that the problem is the left, and
(06:52):
the reason why we all hate the establishment so much
is because the establishment enabled the left to win, because
the Republican establishment was so weak and so corrupt and
so their priorities are so out of order that they
would just allow for the country to lurch left and
lurch into an era of much bigger government, to endless wars,
and then growing a growing state via the deep state,
(07:15):
be our crazy healthcare prices that we have via the
Affordable Care Act. All this is enabled by a weak
Republican establishment. So the point is is that if you're
not focused on the left, then I don't have a
ton of time for you. But that's exactly what we've
done over the last couple of months, is we've gotten
very snippy with MAGA and not focused on the real
problems in this country, which is sad, but I also
(07:39):
think some of it's just content, so I'm not a
total gerer in this regard. I think some of it
just people trying to trying to get attention for their
podcasts or their social accounts. And I don't take it
totally seriously. I'm paying attention to it, but I got
to say, I'm not saying that all is lost. I'm
still optimistic that we'll all get focused when the time comes.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You mentioned endless wars, and it just reminded me. It
does seem like another thing that corporate media is perpetuating
is the idea that the United States is going to war,
full on, boots on ground with Venezuela, with the with
the narco terrorists. That's not really a thing, is it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't think so, And I'll reserve, you know, a
ten percent hedge on this. But from my read right now,
this is a kil mar a brego Garcia part two.
This is the latest hysteria. Everything Pete Heeksas did was
above board and on target, literally and figuratively speaking. Bombing
drug boats is a ninety seven to three issue. They
were drug boats, they were in a drug deal. It
(08:37):
is not a war crime. It's not even a war
that's going on, but it can't be any war crimes
the war.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Somebody it should tell Hakeem Jeffries that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, And I think that this is just another attempted
media hysteria slash hoax, and we're getting the better of them.
So I think this is a great I said this
on my podcast, and I'm feeling very good about this
that when the second story started bubbling up, I said,
I think this is I think the left is falling
(09:05):
for a trap here. I think Trump is laying out
a trap. He's with those ninety seven three issues and
he's letting them drag this out a little bit. And
I think that's how it looks today.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Looking back on twenty twenty five, The biggest l for
the Democrats, my opinion is the Schumer shutdown. Would you
tend to agree?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, it's hard to say what's the biggest because they
don't have really any major wins. I guess they get
picked up some of those midterm wins. I think the
clearest l is the shutdown. That's the clearest. Okay, so clearest,
So I would agree with that. That's one where they
just simply they shut the government down a huge Republicans
of it, even though they were the ones voting to
shut it down, and then after a record shutdown, then
(09:48):
Democrats vote to open the government. So I don't see
how they say faced it and they got nothing for it.
So I guess that's definitely the clearest l. The biggest
l though, for them, I do think is that there
they have no bench for twenty twenty eight and Yavin
Newsom has no record. Unless you just like men beating
(10:09):
women in sports. Kamala Harris completely exited the scene, but
a judge is a huge joke. Their biggest star by
a mile. They're by far the most talented politician is
a Ugandan immigrant who cannot run for president ever, so
Zira Mom Donnie. So they're they're they're pretty They're pretty
trapped for twenty twenty eight, which I think is you know,
(10:30):
all this will change, It can and will change, but
they have this should be pretty desperate at.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
This point, and by all accounts, before we let you go,
Trump have a good first year.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I give him a very high mark show first year.
It's a certainly the above, you know, the A level.
For me, I think that there's a couple of things
we could be perfect. On Epstein thing was a problem.
I think it hurts with the base energy, but overall,
I think it's foreign policy continues to be a plus,
the best I've ever seen. And domestic Paul, we got
to tackle some of the supportability stuff, but part of
(11:02):
that's just messaging. Part of it is a lot of
things have gotten better, but the word hasn't gotten out yet.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Breitbart dot com Bridebart Editor in chief Alex Marlow. Where
can people find the Alex Marlow Show? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah? YouTube, Apple, wherever is your favorite place? Get podcasts?
Rumble and Spotify to if you prefer over there. That's
all great. And Brypert dot com get the break part.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
App Alex, have a great Christmas and a happy New Year. Man.
We'll talk to you next year.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You guys are the best. We'll see you next year.
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