September 9, 2025 • 6 mins
The amendment to the curfew law, which would have LOWERED the fine amount, was voted AGAINST by the Dems on the City County Council.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'll tell you what. Hammer. If there's one radio show
that can make what goes on during a city county
council meeting interesting, it's us. It's a Hammer and Nigel show.
City County Council. Last night, as expected, there was an
amendment to the curfew law which would have lowered the
fine amount. There was an original amount put forth by
(00:24):
what was it, our buddy mph.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes, Michael Paul Hart. Yeah, former minority leader. And so
they had a little survivor style coup and kicked him
off the island.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So he had an amendment. He's like, all right, Look,
the original fines for curfew violations in my initial proposal,
I'm willing to give a little bit on that, they
were a little high. Let's go down a little more
than just a little. More than just a little in
some cases more than half. So in the first bill
(00:56):
that was rolled out a couple of weeks ago, a
parent that had child violate curfew. First time you get
a written warning, okay, don't let it happen again. Second
time it was supposed to be a five hundred dollars fine,
and the third time fifteen hundred dollars. Moving forward, so
we had some counselors like Krista Carlino come out and say,
(01:19):
hold on, hold on, hold on, that's a little too
expensive for the people of Indianapolis, which it's supposed to
be because it's a deterrent. But all right, fine, So
Michael Paul Hart comes back and says, here's what we'll do.
We're going to lower the costs. Okay, so first time,
same thing, you get a finger wagging, don't do that again.
(01:41):
Second time, instead of five hundred, it's going to be
three hundred dollars reasonable. Third time instead of fifteen hundred dollars,
seven hundred dollars with a keyword being up to seven
hundred dollars. Now, I used to work in marketing, so
that the word up to is very important here, meaning
(02:03):
you can lower it if you want to, less than
half of the original fine for the third And it
still wasn't good enough for these lunatics.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
They basically voted party lines and said that quote, we
need a discussion with more community members and stakeholders.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, more discussion, that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
About holding parents accountable, Like there is supposed to be
some teeth to this thing. If it's just a finger
wagging Okay, fine, nothing's going to change. I'm sorry, Christa Carlino.
But if you can't afford the fine of having little
Johnny arrested on the streets of downtown at two o'clock
in the morning, how about you make sure Little Johnny's
(02:47):
locked up in the house. He's not on the streets
of Indianapolis at two o'clock in the morning. It's so
disappointing because I thought this was a fair amendment, a
fair compromise by Michael Paul Hart.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He knew he wasn't going to get it passed, though, correct,
he knew that. He didn't come right out and say
that on this show when he was with us yesterday.
But I'm projecting, so in other words, I'm projecting he
knew that wasn't going to get passed.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Remember those It's twelve hours where people in this city
were very concerned about children being shot after.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Remember that little twelve hour window where people gave a
damn boy, that's out the window now. Like, if you
would have had this be a public vote on July fifth,
the day after the fourth of July, could public would
have been overwhelmingly behind this. But because enough time has
gone by and these Democrats on the City County Council,
(03:45):
and don't get it twisted here. There are some weak
Republicans on there too, but this was pretty much party lines.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Democrats said.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I still feel like allowing kids to roam the
streets with no consequences is where the city needs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
There's consequences. We you know, will take them to a
facility where their parents could come and pick them up.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Parents.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I think it's cute that we all think there are
parents like the kid just you know, got out of
the house rode a skateboard or bike downtown.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh, by the way, he had six guns on him too, were.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Probably dropped off by the parents if there's any at
all involved.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
In many cases, it's a grandparent that's asleep by seven
point thirty that has no idea what's going on, and
this is where the finds would have came into play.
But according to the Democrats on the City County Council,
it's either racist or inappropriate and we need to have
more conversations and discussions with community members and stakeholders before
(04:47):
we can ask parents to know where their kids are
at at two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Here is our pal.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Rick Snyder, FOP President, responding to this vote last night.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well, what kind of message does that send to the
youth and the parents that are in in these late
late night activities.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Exactly exactly hetorical question.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean, if the parrot now is going to be like,
wait a minute, I don't have to pay anything, no
matter what happens. Yeah, sure, let me know if he's out,
I don't care. I mean that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What happens, So they're out past curfew, a youth, a wild,
untamed youth, youth out and then they take him to
the holding facility, and when it's like five o'clock in
the morning, they just let him go.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Pretty much.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, loss of parent comes and picks them up.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Think of it as fishing, right, you go out fishing,
you catch a couple catfish, you hold it up for
the camera. You might put it in the cooler and
I gas screw it. Just throw them back before you
go home.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's where we're at. We're fishing in downtown Ending.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
The counselors did vote to call down the rezoning petition
of that big data center that was supposed to be
going in Franklin Township. This is like the one thing
that the counselors can come together on. They can't agree
that parents should be held accountable for their kids, but boy,
when it comes to data centers, there's no difference between
(06:11):
Brian Mowory and vop Osley.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They're the same guy. They're doing the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Schwarzenegger Carl Weathers predator high five when it comes to
the data centers, Like, if we could come together for that,
why can't we do crime in the city.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Why it's ridiculous
I'll tell you what. Hammer. If there's one radio show
that can make what goes on during a city county
council meeting interesting, it's us. It's a Hammer and Nigel show.
City County Council. Last night, as expected, there was an
amendment to the curfew law which would have lowered the
fine amount. There was an original amount put forth by
(00:24):
what was it, our buddy mph.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes, Michael Paul Hart. Yeah, former minority leader. And so
they had a little survivor style coup and kicked him
off the island.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So he had an amendment. He's like, all right, Look,
the original fines for curfew violations in my initial proposal,
I'm willing to give a little bit on that, they
were a little high. Let's go down a little more
than just a little. More than just a little in
some cases more than half. So in the first bill
(00:56):
that was rolled out a couple of weeks ago, a
parent that had child violate curfew. First time you get
a written warning, okay, don't let it happen again. Second
time it was supposed to be a five hundred dollars fine,
and the third time fifteen hundred dollars. Moving forward, so
we had some counselors like Krista Carlino come out and say,
(01:19):
hold on, hold on, hold on, that's a little too
expensive for the people of Indianapolis, which it's supposed to
be because it's a deterrent. But all right, fine, So
Michael Paul Hart comes back and says, here's what we'll do.
We're going to lower the costs. Okay, so first time,
same thing, you get a finger wagging, don't do that again.
(01:41):
Second time, instead of five hundred, it's going to be
three hundred dollars reasonable. Third time instead of fifteen hundred dollars,
seven hundred dollars with a keyword being up to seven
hundred dollars. Now, I used to work in marketing, so
that the word up to is very important here, meaning
(02:03):
you can lower it if you want to, less than
half of the original fine for the third And it
still wasn't good enough for these lunatics.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
They basically voted party lines and said that quote, we
need a discussion with more community members and stakeholders.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, more discussion, that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
About holding parents accountable, Like there is supposed to be
some teeth to this thing. If it's just a finger
wagging Okay, fine, nothing's going to change. I'm sorry, Christa Carlino.
But if you can't afford the fine of having little
Johnny arrested on the streets of downtown at two o'clock
in the morning, how about you make sure Little Johnny's
(02:47):
locked up in the house. He's not on the streets
of Indianapolis at two o'clock in the morning. It's so
disappointing because I thought this was a fair amendment, a
fair compromise by Michael Paul Hart.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He knew he wasn't going to get it passed, though, correct,
he knew that. He didn't come right out and say
that on this show when he was with us yesterday.
But I'm projecting, so in other words, I'm projecting he
knew that wasn't going to get passed.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Remember those It's twelve hours where people in this city
were very concerned about children being shot after.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Remember that little twelve hour window where people gave a
damn boy, that's out the window now. Like, if you
would have had this be a public vote on July fifth,
the day after the fourth of July, could public would
have been overwhelmingly behind this. But because enough time has
gone by and these Democrats on the City County Council,
(03:45):
and don't get it twisted here. There are some weak
Republicans on there too, but this was pretty much party lines.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Democrats said.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I still feel like allowing kids to roam the
streets with no consequences is where the city needs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
There's consequences. We you know, will take them to a
facility where their parents could come and pick them up.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Parents.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I think it's cute that we all think there are
parents like the kid just you know, got out of
the house rode a skateboard or bike downtown.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh, by the way, he had six guns on him too, were.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Probably dropped off by the parents if there's any at
all involved.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
In many cases, it's a grandparent that's asleep by seven
point thirty that has no idea what's going on, and
this is where the finds would have came into play.
But according to the Democrats on the City County Council,
it's either racist or inappropriate and we need to have
more conversations and discussions with community members and stakeholders before
(04:47):
we can ask parents to know where their kids are
at at two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Here is our pal.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Rick Snyder, FOP President, responding to this vote last night.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well, what kind of message does that send to the
youth and the parents that are in in these late
late night activities.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Exactly exactly hetorical question.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean, if the parrot now is going to be like,
wait a minute, I don't have to pay anything, no
matter what happens. Yeah, sure, let me know if he's out,
I don't care. I mean that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What happens, So they're out past curfew, a youth, a wild,
untamed youth, youth out and then they take him to
the holding facility, and when it's like five o'clock in
the morning, they just let him go.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Pretty much.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, loss of parent comes and picks them up.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Think of it as fishing, right, you go out fishing,
you catch a couple catfish, you hold it up for
the camera. You might put it in the cooler and
I gas screw it. Just throw them back before you
go home.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's where we're at. We're fishing in downtown Ending.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
The counselors did vote to call down the rezoning petition
of that big data center that was supposed to be
going in Franklin Township. This is like the one thing
that the counselors can come together on. They can't agree
that parents should be held accountable for their kids, but boy,
when it comes to data centers, there's no difference between
(06:11):
Brian Mowory and vop Osley.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They're the same guy. They're doing the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Schwarzenegger Carl Weathers predator high five when it comes to
the data centers, Like, if we could come together for that,
why can't we do crime in the city.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Why it's ridiculous
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