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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you believe these characters are weirdo us?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
So let's.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Here they come off the brickyard belongs to Baba Wallas Wamsay.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Baba Wallace swimming the brickyard four hundred yesterday. Of course
I had my money on Kyle Larson, who came in second.
I thought Baba was going to run out of a
gas there at the end. Apparently he didn't, and I
lost four dollars. My name is Nigel. That's Jason Hammer
right over there. More on that in just a second.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
But first, man rint and repeat. Another violent weekend, another
mass shooting here in Indianapolis. This time it wasn't necessarily downtown,
but it was still in Indianapolis. Thirty eighth in German Church.
Five people shot, ranging between the ages of ten and

(00:58):
nineteen years old, all happening on the east side. Hot
spot for violence for the victims and stable condition, one
in critical condition. This was the press conference yesterday with
IMPD Sergeant William Young.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
I can tell you that four individuals was more inside
of a vehicle and one individual was outside of a
vehicle in exchange of gunfire occurs for some reason, some
type of disturbance occurred. We don't know what the background
that he is. Obviously our detective is, our canvasscenary hoping
to speak with witnesses and so forth. We haven't made
it as to know who was aggressor who was not
their addresser.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Now you go back to the infamous July fourth weekend,
another mass shooting here in Indy. Five people shot. I
think that falls into the category of a mass shooting,
NIGE two in one month. Here.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
You hear the words mass shooting, you think death. That's
the first thing that enters my mind. I like, five
people dead. No, thank god, nobody died in this, although
one person is in critical condition. But they don't have
the shooter. They don't know what happened. I bet, like
I'm speculating social media some sort of spat like that, maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
There were some drugs involved. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I'm speculating here, but like I woke up and saw that,
I'm like thinking, oh my god. Ten and nineteen, right,
those were the age ranges of the people that were
hit by bullets. Ten my daughter's eleven years old.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And I don't know. And here's how things are on
the East side of Indy. NIGE four of the individuals
that were not, you know, seriously wounded. One person was
in critical I needed to stay there at the scene.
The other four got up and went to the hospital
on their own. They did not want the police to

(02:52):
be there when they were shot. Maybe they didn't want
to talk to anybody, so they checked themselves into the
hospital with gunshot wounds. It's a mess, man, But thank
god the prosecutor here in Marion County wants to blame
law abiding gun owners. And thank god he's doing basketball camps.

(03:14):
We got that going for us here. Look, man, I
don't mind the basketball camps. That's fine. That's something for
the kids to do. That's that's not a prosecutor's job, okay.
But the prosecutor's job is to prosecute crimes. And he's
been kind of on a on a tear lately when
we talk about Ryan Mears, he's been on like a

(03:37):
tear in terms of bragging. Oh yeah, I've been very
tough on crime. Right. So, and he's patting his stats
and hoping and praying people don't pay attention.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Right, Well, well, we'll explain this all to you.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So he's doing some victory lap on social media about
busting some pedophile, which all right, great, one less pedophile
off the streets. That's fine, but maybe pumped the brakes
on the victory lap here because he's acting like Johnny
tough guy and talking about this tough sentence that he
put on this substantial arrest of a child predator. But

(04:17):
even Fox fifty nine has called out his bull crap here.
So in an article that Fox fifty nine put out,
they said that the problem with the victory lap here,
and anybody can read this for himself, was that the
guy that he's being Johnny tough guy on, he was
giving multiple sweetheart plea deals prior to that, including felony

(04:42):
gun convictions, and not put this dude back on the
streets with nothing more than a GPS monitor. And if
you read this story from Fox fifty nine, this dude
gave zero you know what about a police monitor quote
and this is from Fox fifty nine. During the investigation
into the individual, police learned that he had been recently

(05:04):
arrested for being caught with a gun. As a felon,
he was prohibited from owning a firearm. Witnesses told investigators
that the suspect was on GPS monitoring and once threatened
to cut off his monitor and quote come over there
after learning what they were going to do to the
police in regards to the child molestation allegations. He was

(05:27):
threatening to cut his monitor off and go hurt more people.
So clearly the monitor system not really working out. You
know what would have worked out locking up this violent
repeat offender for a little longer, but no, he got
a sweetheart plea deal, and it wasn't until a recent
near molestation that this guy was taken back into custody.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
This is different, by the way, than what we were
talking about earlier with the shooting that happened with the
five people. Okay, this is a totally separate right, who
knows and they haven't caught that guy, by the way,
who knows what rep sheet that guy has that that happened.
But but the hammer, it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Called patting the stats, right, correct, that's and it's working
the media cameras too. Like if you don't listen to
programs like Hours, you probably think, oh, good for Ryan Mears.
The prosecutor's office got this creepy pedophile off the streets.
But what he doesn't want you to know was he's
on the streets from a sweetheart plea deal.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, he's cherry picking conviction convictions. Right, it's a great
way to look at not the overall stats that are atrocious.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Right. This is a prosecutor that's more concerned about running
for mayor than he is being a prosecutor. And it's
been that way since he got the gig. It's been
that way since he was appointed and then one re election.
He's never wanted to be the prosecutor. It was a
stepping stone to his next gig, which he believes is

(07:05):
the mayor's office of Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I wonder what the people the work under him think
of him. Are they all on the same page that
we need to be soft on crime because everybody needs
a second chances.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I've heard otherwise. Really, Okay, okay, that's interesting. I just
want my prosecutor to be tough on crime. His predecessor,
Terry Curry, he ultimately lost his life. He died while
he was in office. But he was a Democrat, and
you know what, I think he did a good job.
I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I didn't know what Curry's political affiliation was, and you.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Shouldn't with a prosecutor. You really shouldn't, like it should
not be a part of an issue to lock up
violent repeat offenders. Now, the Prosecutor's office, they always get
their little panties in a twist. Oh, we can't lock
up everybody like the FOP wants, like Hammer and Nigel
want no. But what you can do is you can

(08:07):
slap the GPS monitor on your low level offenders. But
the violent repeat offenders or people with like a ridiculous
number of offenses, I'm sorry, you find a place to
lock them up.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
John Wrights is on our social media account at Hammer
and Nigel. That's like crapping on the floor and saying,
look at what I wiped up.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right right, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Oh my gosh, I mean that's the.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's the Prosecutor's office right now.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Very simple explanation.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I don't care that you're doing basketball clinics. I don't
care about anything else. I want you to lock up
violent repeat offenders. The fact we had a story on
what was it Friday about elude new dude in the
news who's been arrested forty nine times, forty nine forty
nine times.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
It's indecient exposure, right.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Among other things. Yes, there are a few violent things
in there, but an awful lot of nudity. Like come on, now, look,
some of these are the judges. Okay, I get that,
But as the prosecutor, you've got the bullet pulpit, right,
you can say, we want our judges to be tougher.
Joe Hawks, that could do the same thing. We need
our judges, We need our prosecutor to be tougher. But

(09:30):
instead here comes a basketball clinic. Okay, that's great. I
got news for you. The people that are probably going
to that basketball clinic aren't the ones out robbing the stores.
Aren't the ones out robbing people? Aren't the ones bringing
guns downtown at two o'clock in the morning. Ryan Mears,
quit trying to just pander and run for mayor real

(09:50):
quick before we hit a break here Brickyard four hundred,
Bubba Wallace was the winner yesterday. What did you think
of the crowd? Like you watched it on television, what
did you think about the crowd?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well, I mean, IMS is so huge, and it's built
for the Indy five hundred, the most prestigious race in
the world, and NASCAR just doesn't draw that kind of crowd.
Your son was there you're telling me the crowd was good.
I like the race. The end of the race was fun.

(10:22):
There was what two quote unquote overtimes or something like that.
I don't fully understand what is happening with NASCAR, but
the overtimes and the yellow flags and the stuff that's
happening at the end of the race. But I thought
it was fun. And again, Art, I think we bet
on the same guy.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, we had Kyle Larson, who'd won it the year before. Yeah,
finished second. He was right there at the end, almost
had it. But no, my son Bubba and said that
the crowd looked bigger than the previous year. And listen
for everybody saying that nobody attends this race. It looks
bad on television when you look at the paid attendance

(11:00):
that race and compare it to pretty much any other track. Yes,
the Brickyard four hundreds in like the top three or four,
like Daytona five hundred is the most attended race for NASCAR.
And then really yeah, and then because they sell that
one out.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
But no, I know the Daytona, but the Brickyard is
the top three or four.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah. Wow, it's just they're all spread out over this
massive track, you know, infield and grand stands and so yeah.
I mean if you take that crowd that went to
the race yesterday and you put it at Bristol or
Charlotte or some other track like that Atlanta, they would
be freaking out. Oh my god, look at all these people.
But because it's ims, some folks say, ah, the attendance

(11:42):
is bad because it looks bad on TV. Well, it's
not as bad as you think it is. Real quick,
I know we're running way late here, but whatever. This
was my favorite piece of audio from the entire weekend.
It came from the Brickyard four hundred driver Austin Hill.
He was out there doing his thing. Man, he was
in some scrapes. He got into an accident. NASCAR gave

(12:05):
him a five lap penalty for aggressive driving. Five lap penalty.
Let's go to the radio, the real radio feed of
driver Austin Hill.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Right, they're going to hold it for five last for
reckless driver. They can go themselves sideways. I go to
correct it back to the left and gets locked to
the left and you can run into the nineteen.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
So good. NASCAR can go bleep themselves. So good.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I feel another fine coming right for him. For that
that driver Austin Hills. Everybody that's hit a pothole in Indianapolis.
Talking to Joe Hoggs said Joe Hoggs, that can go
come in.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
So you'll sit here listening to the Hammer and Nichel.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Show this Friday, August first, Fear Simple Friday at the
Indiana State Fair. The Hammer and Nigel Show on the Road,
brought to you.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
By Wilson Farm Market. They're the ones making it possible
and it is on one of my favorite live shows
that we do every year. Inside the air conditioned tap
room at the Fair. That's key air conditioned. It's gonna
be a little cooler on Friday from what I hear,
but still, man uh, it's gonna be such a good time.

(13:36):
A lot of local beers in there. And I'm competing
against lick listener Mariachi Bob. It's official me against listener
Mariachi Bob in a deep fried Oreo heating contest.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I don't know, man, I'd be scared. I just the
moniker Mariachi Bob throws me off. If I were, I'd
be a little scared because you beat your son last year,
Chris Ammer right in the deep fried Oreo eatie contest.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And I beat somebody the year before and I can't
remember who it was. I'm two and zero.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Okay, So, Mariachi Bob, I don't know anybody has enough
cajones to gloss themselves. Mariachi Bob, I don't know anything
about this guy.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I don't either. But there's an old saying, never played
cards with somebody who's got a city as a nickname.
I don't know if that applies to a deep fried
Oreo eating contest. But do I want to get into
something with Mariachi Bob? Interesting? I don't know. We're gonna
find out. We each watched Happy Gilmour two on Netflix

(14:45):
this past weekend. Alison watched it as well, not together.
I would have been great if we would have watched
it together. Yeah, somehow Alison doesn't seem to feel that
same amount of enthusiasm. I don't believe. But what did
you think? Uh?

Speaker 7 (14:59):
You know?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
So we first of all, you and I were at
Diamond's Direct at two different times. My wife unfortunately lost
her wedding ring and we went to replace it. Chris
took great care of us, and we were kind of
a bittersweet thing like it's our wedding ring, and so
we wanted to go home and watch something funny. Turned
on Happy Gilmore too, and she got a great She

(15:20):
got a great, great new wedding ring. By the way,
it held our attention for about an hour forty five minutes,
and then she was like, I'm going upstairs to watch
She calls them her horror shows.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Horror.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, all those reality did, all the despicable reality. Oh,
the Real Housewives and all the reality all those.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
The skanks that are selling real estate. I got.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
I lost interest about halfway through, started scrolling through, had
some laughs, great cameos by the golfers, like you said,
like we talked about Scotti Scheffler was the star that
but I didn't. I don't even remember the ending.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Right, and I had not spoil anything.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
No, I don't want to spoil anything. I hadn't been
drinking or anything. I just truly don't remember the ending.
I just lost interest. First half was great.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, I'm with you, was funny, I'm with you. The
first half the story You're like, oh, this is great.
Now you are watching for all of the cameos like
that keeps your attention to But the last half was
kind of dumb.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Never they were taking shot at live golf.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I think it was. And look at the Samlar movie.
I didn't expect the God bothers me, right.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
I understand, but it was happy to Gilmore, the original
was much better, Allison, I.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
Would say, I'm with you, guys. I had very little
expectations because I don't usually think sequels work out well.
But I thought it was. It was solid. It was
definitely funny at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
There was a lot of out loud moments.

Speaker 8 (16:53):
There's a lot of labout moments. They stayed true to
the character. I think there was like seventy some cameos
I saw, right, So there was, like you said, you
were always looking for somebody.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Did a shirtless Travis Kelcey do anything for you, Allison?

Speaker 8 (17:05):
When is his shirt? Oh? Yes, I don't remember, so
that's a.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
No okay, But there was one of our mutual friends,
who was a lovely young lady sent us a message
on our Instagram said my favorite part shirtless Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, did something for me.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
Overall though, being on Netflix, I would say, give it
a watch.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, I mean the feedback that we got was probably
seventy thirty Like seventy percent said thumbs up. Yeah, thirty
percent said nah, not for me.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
I think you and I we are in agreement. Yes,
Like first half fine, second half half worth a watch.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
You'll laugh a little bit. The nostalgia is cool, but
it's certainly not as good as the first one. But
everybody's talking about it, right, and what does that say
about the movies that are supposed to be in the
box office in the field.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
It's a good point. Fantastic four Part four, Well I didn't.
I haven't seen the first one, right, nobody's talking about
anything at the box office this weekend.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's a Netflix sequel. That's how bad Hollywood is. Like wow,
Like Netflix is just dominating the water cooler talking if.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
You Murfs were in the top five at the Hollywood
box office this weekend.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
The smurf Smurfs.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
But you're so right, everybody's talking about Happy Gilmour too.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
When can we get an original idea? Like when is
there going to be a new action movie with a
new action hero, or like a wacky teen sex comedy
or some sort of slapstick you know, dude movie like
The Hangover or something.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
It's all just school crap old, like, when is there
going to be another old school right right?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Everything now is just a reboot or you know, a
new franchise sequel. It all sucks. Man. I know I'm
getting older and I saw like old yelling at the cloud.
But they are really out of ideas.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
So grade for Habby Gilmore, Habby gomore To, I mean
goodmore too. I'm sorry, see see, I'm gonna I'll.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Give it a see. I am too.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
And I literally don't know what happened at the end.
I started scrolling through my phone and the kids and
the wife had went upstairs, and I gone upstairs, and
I just I just stopped paying attention.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
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Speaker 2 (19:40):
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Speaker 1 (19:41):
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Speaker 4 (19:45):
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Speaker 9 (19:59):
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Speaker 4 (20:15):
Want to start out with something just a little dark.
We don't have to dwell on this at all for
any you know, we could just talk about this and
move on. But I after church on Sunday, I went
with my grandma, my dad and his wife and my
wife my kids too out to eat out out to
lunch place on four twenty one. It's it's kind of

(20:37):
my Stone Creek. I forget what it is. But they
serve like really good banana cream pie.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
As I know you're talking about. It's a dessert place. Yeah,
but they serve Nigel's bananas yaa.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
But this woman walks in, but they serve like like,
you know, club sandwiches and stuff too. So this woman
walks in like she looks like a grandma, and she's
wearing a purple shirt. On the back of her shirt
I've never it said quote pro life looks like twenty
Sandy Hook students starting high school this year. Yeah, and

(21:16):
that I had a reaction. I didn't say anything to her.
I was with my grandma, I was with my family.
I've never said anything to anybody about shirts and statements
they were wearing. But I almost wanted to go up
to her and say, that is the most despicable thing

(21:36):
I've ever seen. Some lady not only standing on the
backs of grieving parents and dead kids perpetuating a gun grabbing,
anti gun narrative, but also there was a pro life element,
pro abortion element in that shirt, and I I almost

(22:00):
just wanted to go up to it and say, that
is the most despicable thing I've ever heard. And this
is the reality that we're dealing with now. I don't
know her background. I don't know if she's had a
victim of somebody that's been shot by.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
A gun, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
But to where the let me read this again, pro
life looks like twenty Sandy Hook students starting high school
this year. I wanted to flip it ruined it kind
of like ruined my lunch with my family. Yeah, and
this is the this is the mindset of the people
that you deal with.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
It is the mindset. And believe me, I'm down to the
State House and we have the Mom's Demand Action ladies
in there, and I'm kind of a target or a
focal point for a lot of their ire on social
media and otherwise. I took a lot of that this weekend.
But you know, seeing that shirt, I mean, first of all,
is there anybody in the known universe who wouldn't want

(22:57):
to see those twenty kids murdered at Sandy Cook starting
high school right now? I mean, And to suggest that
anybody feels otherwise, of course, is disgusting, and that's what
hits you, you know, so below the belt and why
it's ridiculous. But at the same time, there's a there's
obviously a message there that she's saying that there should
be laws in place that would have prevented the Sandy

(23:20):
Hook shooting and therefore saved those kids' lives and would
have then allowed them to be starting high school. That's
what the suggestion is, right, pro life. You know that
we're talking about it's a political debate. We're talking about laws.
We're talking about legislation, and I want to know what law,
And this is what it always comes down to. These
people come out at you with with emotion and fear

(23:41):
and guilt any.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Other emotionally was that's emotionally guilt.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
But logic has to respond in the sense to say,
what law in place would prevent a psychotic kid from
killing his mother, stealing her rifle that she legally bought,
and then going to a school and violating who knows
how many other laws, including the law against osay murder,
possession of a firearm on school property, any number of

(24:09):
other laws. What law in place is this woman, this
woman indirectly suggesting, would have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting.
That's what they can never answer. And when I'm in
committee hearings of these people and they stand up and
they give their a bit emotional things. This horrible thing happened.
This horrible thing happened. That's why we need a law.
And I'll say, you're suggesting, when I get a chance

(24:30):
to speak, you're suggesting that any of the laws that
you're proposing would have prevented the tragedy that you're standing
on the back of. The dead children that you're standing
on the back of. That is what they can never
support They can never say, oh, this law would have
prevented that. That's wrong, that's unsupportable, and that's why we
keep kicking their ass in the Indiana General Assembly.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's the one law he would have obeyed, right.

Speaker 9 (24:52):
Right, Oh wow, I'm gonna I'm not afraid of dying
in a shootout or eating a bullet, which is usually
their plan from my gun. I'm not afraid of that.
But if you pass this one more law, oh gosh,
I better not commit this heinous crime, murder a bunch
of kids, and then kill myself because I'm worried about
this one additional criminal penalty. It's naive, it's stupid, and

(25:14):
that's why they always lose, at least right here.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
In Indiana, Monday Gun Day, Guy Relford with us. A
lot of high school students going back to school this week,
high school, even some of the younger kids, I think,
going back to school this week now in the state
of South Dakota. South Dakota University System has approved guns
on campus policy to comply with a new state law. Now,

(25:38):
I know here in Indy the college kids don't go
back for a little while, but walk me through what's
going on here. Guy.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yeah, Well, there's a long in South Dakota and we've
we've proposed similar legislation and we've had legislators introduced bills.
My friend Jim Lucas from District sixty nine has has
had a bill multiple sessions that what we call campus
Carrie and what this is is it says that if
a college or university in Indiana receives state money and funding,

(26:07):
which most of them do, then they cannot prevent the
lawful carrying of firearms on campus.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So say Indiana University, the state named university here in Indiana,
they certainly receive funding from the state of Indiana University.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Absolutely, you're exactly right. But right now, by the way,
it's not illegal to carry a gun on a college
campus in Indiana. The so called Free or Gun Free
School Zones Act only applies only applies to K through
twelve and licensed daycares, So it's not illegal. I mean,
I've been asked to a lecture or give presentations lectures to

(26:42):
groups over at IP why I'm always carrying a gun
and there's no MEDDAL detector and so I carry it now.
But it's against their policy for anybody to have a gun.
So if you're a student, you can be expelled, which
is huge obviously. If you're an employee like staff member
or otherwise, you can be fired. If you're a guest
or you know, a visitor, you can be thrown off

(27:03):
campus under under fear of being prosecuted for trespassing. But
it's not against the law. You don't go to jail.
So what what these bills say is that if you
receive state money, the state says you cannot prohibit carer
you can. I have a policy that prevents carry on campus.
And we've never been able to get that, even a
committee hearing, We've never been able to get it passed
in Indiana. It's passed in Texas, it looks like now

(27:25):
it's going to pass in South Dakota. He's passing a
few other places. But when I look at this, and
I'm thinking, you talking about common sense of legislation, I mean,
my daughter's going to college and she has to, you know,
walk home from the library by yourself, unescorted, across the
dark campus, completely unprotected, And and why is that okay?

(27:46):
And and you know, criminals, and I'm sorry, and it's
it's it's hard for us to talk about, but how many,
how many rapes and other violent crimes happen on college
campuses every single year. The numbers are shocking. And why
should anybody on a college campus who can lawfully possess
a gun, who can lawfully carry a handgun for instance,
why should they be prohibited because that school has an

(28:08):
antisecond amendment policy. That's what campus carries all about. That's
what South Dakota. That's a problem they're fixing. And I
would love to see that happen in Indiana, and it should.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Monday Gun Day with Guy Relford, the gun Guy. We
got your shirts back on the merchant store. Now about that.
I've got a new local printer, So if you make
an order, you get your shirt today much quicker timely manner.
Put them on our Facebook and Twitter right now, or
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and Nigel dot com. Your Mondaygun Day shall Not be

(28:40):
in Friends shirt And on the back it's like a
Jersey T shirt. It says well for two a which
is really cool.

Speaker 9 (28:47):
And I have one. By the way, you guys are
back in the State Fair. Yes, I'm so excited about this.
I came out and hung out with you guys last time.
I'm going to do that again, whether I'm invited or not.
I'll just sit in the audience and support you guys,
because that was a blast when we did that last year.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Absolutely, man, come on down and hang out with us
and we'll have a good time. But get those Guy
Relford shirts right now. Support my guy over here real
quick before we wrap up here, guy, Supreme Court is
going to decide if people who smoke that wacky tobacci
people who smoke the weed are allowed to own guns.

Speaker 9 (29:20):
Yeah, and listen, right now, there's a law that says
you cannot as a federal law says you cannot possess
a firearm if you're a user of or addicted to
any illegal drugs and marijuana. As ridiculous as this is,
and listen, I learned in college that marijuana and I
don't get along. So this is this is not in
my wheelhouse's way.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Guy Ralford had a thick head of hair that he
smoked one joint and now look at it.

Speaker 9 (29:45):
That made me wanted to go curl up in a
fetal position and not talk to anybody. Just made me
quiet and paranoid. But there are people certainly in my family. Well,
this is more of an issue. But marijuana, even though
it's legal in half the states now, plus, it's still
illegal at the federal law at the federal level. And
so if you are a user of over addicted to marijuana,

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federal law right now says you cannot possess a firearm
even in those states where it's been legalized at the
state level.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
So let's say you live in like I think Illinois.

Speaker 9 (30:16):
Has Illinois, Michigan, Colorado where my son lives, we're surrounded
by this, surrounded by him, right, and so and in
those states where you have a medical marijuana card, right,
that have medical marijuana, you've just created a government document
that says you're an habitual user, a consistent user of marijuana,
which means you're not prohibited by federal law from possessing

(30:37):
a gun. And so we have one case it's going
to be considered in committee at the Supreme Court this
September that's pending where a guy got sentenced to jail
because officials established that he was a usual constant user
of marijuana and habitual user of marijuana, and so he

(31:00):
got convicted of a crime. Looking at three years in
prison and lower court found out to be unconstitutional under
the Second Amendment. It's going to the Supreme Court, and
I would love to see this and under this text,
history and tradition test. So I'm going to go back
to saying, if someone is is just a user of
a drug but not under the influence at the time
they possess a gun, is it consistent with the history

(31:21):
and tradition of regulation of the Second Amendment trust entering
to deprive them of their constitutional rights because that's the
way the law works now, you know, just like, do
you regularly use marijuana?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (31:32):
I use it a couple of times. Use it today? No,
Well you're still going to prison. That doesn't make any
sense to me. And that's what the Supreme Court is
going to consider whether they take the case. Where can
we find more information?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Give me a follow?

Speaker 9 (31:44):
Please add on Twitter x as Tony calls it twitter
x at Guy Ralford on Twitter, Guy, You're the best.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Thanks guys. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with
the very special in studio.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Guests, the host of Saturday Night on the Circle. Here
at ninety three WIBC, and he's kind of Our Fountain
Square correspondent Ethan Hatcher joins us, Now there may be
somebody listening for the first time here, Ethan. Our show
grows every day, the station grows every day. Remind everybody

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what's going on on your side of town. Fountain Square
with the homeless.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
Fountain Square has been going downhill for a while now.
Right there on Leonard Street off of Virginia Avenue, we've
got what's essentially Indianapolis skid.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Row going on.

Speaker 10 (32:34):
I mean, I'm talking about dozens of tents they've wore
down the grass. It's right off the highway, and most importantly,
it's next to a residential neighborhood and the neighbors haven't
been too happy about that.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
This looks like something you would see from San Francisco
or La Yep, right out of Los Angeles. And this
is new to the Fountain Square area.

Speaker 10 (32:56):
It's happened in the last few months from what I
was aware of. I only saw it after it had
been established. Within the last few weeks. I've done a
few drive by and of course Indie Reporter has done
a fantastic job of covering the development of that.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
What's the demographic, the makeup of these people. Are these
people that don't have the ability to own a home
or maintain a job, Are they mentally ill? I mean,
like I'm asking you to maybe generalize here. Maybe you
shouldn't do that. I don't know, but like, who are
these people?

Speaker 10 (33:25):
I don't know all these people personally, but I'm going
to say it's a mix of all of the above.
You've got mental illness, you've got physical disability, you've got
drug abuse, You've got lots of problems, lots of problems
going on, and it's a mix of everyone. It's men,
it's women, it's black, it's white. I mean, it's a
diversity fest over there.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Now, keep in mind your district, not necessarily you, but
the people that live in Fountain Square. It's a very
left leaning, very super liberal leaning area that voted for
a socialist to be part of the city County council.
You get what you vote for, for sure. Okay, So
is there any feeling of that, Is there any voter remorse,

(34:06):
if you will, from the people that you've talked to
in your neighborhood.

Speaker 10 (34:09):
Absolutely not. Of course, they're going to continue to vote
for Democrats. They're dissatisfied with the state of the city,
but they don't want to make the electoral changes to
bring that about to an end.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
So what is the representative saying?

Speaker 10 (34:22):
Socialist City Council member Jesse Brown says, the reason why
these people aren't availing themselves of the shelters is because
there are too many sexual assaults that are taking place
in these homeless shelters. And when I asked the representative
had maybe any prosecutions resulted from these numerous sexual assaults,
he went radio silence. So I'm going to say probably not.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Okay, So there's a lot to unpacked there. Hold on
one second. So Jesse Brown, socialist member of the City
County Council's been on the show. We've had him on
the show before, and I've said before I've actually got
more in common with Jesse Brown than I do some
of these other Democrats because at least he hates Joe
hawk Set too. It's the one thing like I don't
have anything in kind with Bob Ostley, I don't have

(35:03):
anything in common with Frank Mascari, but I do with
Jesse Brown. Ethan.

Speaker 10 (35:08):
Jesse Brown is such an interesting case because he comes
out with these wacky ideas like oh, well, you can't
put the homeless and homeless shelters because there are too
many sexual assaults. But at the same time he doesn't
want to prosecute these because he believes in bringing about
an end to the police.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
And then also he.

Speaker 10 (35:22):
Does good work around the neighborhood, like honestly, I attended
a alley cleaning town hall that he hosted just a
few weeks ago, and he is listening to constituent concerns
about the state of the alleyways and trying to make change.
So it's a mixed bag when it comes to the
socialist City Council member.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
He's a strange bird.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
But is he like the what kind of socialist is he?
What's the socialism overseas like Greenland and Sweden.

Speaker 10 (35:48):
I mean he's a full on commune to still tell
you that in person, he is a student of Marx.
He believes in bringing about an end to capitalism and
transferring the means of the production the means of production,
So I mean he's a communist in the classical sense
of the term.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He seems harmless. He's a little mandami right from New
York City. But the reason we're having this conversation. Is
that there is a story from WISH TV that there
are multiple shelters that have availability. Now some are full,
but there are multiple other shelters that are available for
these people to move into. There's a roof over their head.

(36:26):
They're going to get some sort of meal, a shower,
some rehabilitation. But yet Jesse Brown and the people on
skid Row and Fountain Square, they'd rather stay right where
they're at.

Speaker 10 (36:36):
The dirty little secret is that these people, many of them,
I shouldn't say all, but many of them do not
want to follow the rules. Of course, Ryan Hedrick has
been doing good work. He's been interviewing some of these
individuals in the homeless camps. One of them by the
name of Ashley, swears up and down that it has
nothing to do with drug abuse in the community. That's
just a negative stereotype. But I would bet money if

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you offer them shelter, had a drugs free offered them
shelter in a drugs free homeless shelter, then they wouldn't go.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Can't follow the rules. Well, now, the city they put
out these little flyers, some of them were like posted
on the actual tents themselves saying August eleventh is the deadline.
You have to be out of this area, no more
tent city by August eleventh. You lived there, then the
chances of this happening.

Speaker 10 (37:25):
Are what probably slim. They're going to be half to
drug out, kicking and screaming. If I had to guess,
they'll probably move the deadline. They've offered to store these
personal goods for up to sixty days to facilitate moving
these individuals. The city has, Yes, the city has up
to sixty days to facilitate their movement away from this encampment. Now,
I've also heard tail but I haven't verified it myself,

(37:48):
that a new encampment may be forming on South Minnesota
Street on the ass end of the International Airport underneath
the I four sixty five overpass.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
So that might be the new area, And because it's
not near a residential part, folks might leave them alone there.

Speaker 10 (38:04):
All things considered, it might be a workable middle ground.
Because you're never going to fully eliminate the problem. But
if they're not causing trouble for the community and just
these industrial businesses that surrounded, I guess it's more manageable.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Well, they are causing trouble there was an article I
saw there was a dead body.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yes, of course there's.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Ethan they It's a violent place, it's a scary place.
It's not like some sort of nineteen sixty nine hippie
sort of thing.

Speaker 10 (38:38):
It's neither compassionate nor is it safe for these individuals
to be living on the streets. But as long as
it is tolerated by the community, then what are you
going to do?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
And I know we've been talking about your side of
town here, but if you look over at Lugar Plaza,
it's not real clean over there right now either.

Speaker 11 (38:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It looked nice when the WNBA All Star Game was
here and whenever there are major conventions in Indie. It's
amazing how the homeless get magically shipped away to various
hotels around Central Indiana. But Luger Plaza doesn't look real
good either.

Speaker 10 (39:14):
All that Joe Hogg said is committed to doing to
address the issue right now is essentially playing musical chairs
with the homeless community. You had another large encampment that
was right underneath the I sixty five overpass at Washington Street,
next to the Hardy's there on the east side, and
that got cleared out for the All Star game.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
But you know where it.

Speaker 10 (39:32):
Moved right around the corner to the I sixty five
on ramp, so literally just yards away from where they
already were, and they set up another campsite. So we're
just playing musical chairs here.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Do you have, man? I have sympathy?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
I have empathy for some of these people, I really do.
Do you living amongst like where you live?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Do you have? Sure? Just yeah? I do? I feel sorry?
Sure absolutely.

Speaker 10 (40:01):
But on the same token, there's a reason why they're
on the street. People like to pretend that, oh, you're
just one paycheck away from living on the street yourself,
But that's a damned lie, because if something happened to
you Jason, or if something happened to you Nige, you
have friends, you have family, You have people that would
be willing to step up and give you a couch.
And there's a reason why many of these individuals have

(40:24):
had that cut off. They have abused the generosity of others,
They have alienated themselves from family, from friends, And this
is the circumstance you find yourself in when you have
severely anti social behavior for a variety of reasons. It
could be drug abuse, it could be mental illness. It
could be a number of things, but it all ends

(40:44):
up in the same place.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
And whether it's Luger Plaza or whether it's over at
Fountain Square, these tent areas or encampments, whatever you want
to call them, there are places that are hiring nearby. Right,
how many times have we seen somebody with a sign
help me camping out outside of a business that's got
a help wanted sign in the window.

Speaker 10 (41:05):
Well there again. One of the interviews that Ryan Hendrick
here had done with a member of the homeless community,
I believe her name was Tanya, said that as soon
as these individuals turn in an application, when the employer
sees that they don't have a stable address or there's
no address, then you know, the application just goes stable
circular file.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
But you can do that if you go to the
mission or you go to one of these places that
try to help you. Right, I'm sure if you are
a homeless person and you go to the Wheeler Mission
and go this is my last resort. I'm at rock bottom,
I'm on skid row right now. Can you help me
get a shower, get a suit, and try to have
a po box for a job. They would help you

(41:45):
in a heartbeat.

Speaker 10 (41:45):
For the individuals that want it, there is definitely opportunity
for a hand up, but the reality you want it, well,
the reality situation is that most of them don't, and
that's why they're there.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
What's coming up on your show this weekend.

Speaker 10 (41:59):
We're going to be talking about the news, talking about Uh,
apparently the CEO of Astronomer is now trying to sue.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Coldplay for for on the Jumbo Tronk. There is is
real that he would.

Speaker 10 (42:17):
He would have more success if he tried to sue
Astronomer for wrongful termination. Now he was dating the HR girl,
so I doubt that would go anywhere either, but I
feel he probably got a strong.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Did Astronomer bring in Gwyneth Paltrow to be their spokeswoman?

Speaker 12 (42:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Because I think that's brilliant. Yeah, because that's the extent
the Coldplay lead singer right right?

Speaker 10 (42:34):
They are taking advantage of earned media attention right now?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Where can we follow you at?

Speaker 10 (42:39):
You can follow me on my Twitter at Ethan Hatcher
E t H A n h A t c h
E R and you can listen to me filling in
this Thursday on The Kendall and Casey Show from nine
to noon.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Ethan, thanks man, thank you, buddy. Present. It depends upon
what the meaning of the word is.

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Speaker 1 (43:30):
Is this anything place? In California have arrested a serial
butt sniffer who's what?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
First of all, what name pops into your head when
you say the word butt sniffer.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
There's two George Stephanopoulos, the greatest butt sniffer of all
time Clintons and Bob Osley City County Council president who
will do anything for his daddy, Joe Hogg.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Say hey, so, but this is in This is in California, right?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
They've arrested a what serial butt sniffer who followed women
around in a Nordstrom store sniffing their anus.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Oh that's awful, those poor women.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
He has a history of similar arrest and crimes. Here's
the sergeant and a victim talking about the butt sniffer.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
He eventually worked his way into the women's section, found
a lone shopper and started hitting some of the same behavior,
getting close to her, uncomfortably close, crouching down as if
he was trying to buy some check something out or
look at something.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
So I've heard up to twenty women, you know, and
what's happened to them?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
And they're all scared, and I know the feeling good.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Get this guy off the streets, put him in jail.
I could imagine if I was a serial butt sniffer,
you know, like you drop your phone. Is that what
probably would sound like if you I think you would have.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I don't think it was a series of short, little sniffs, right,
I think it was a big like, oh, like he's
doing a big line of blow like.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Dogs or cereal, but sniffers, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
The way Vop Bossley would do Joe Hog set inside
the City County Building, That's exactly how it would play out. Hey, uh, Vop,
I want to need you to kick out that accuser. Sure, Boss,
Oh Jesus, is this anything. Passengers were forced to flee

(45:46):
a smoking jet on one of those blow up emergency
slides at the Denver airport. Yeah, all one and seventy
three passengers six crew members were safely evacuated. But there
was like a fire or something going on with part
of the engine. They made a landing, they got that
inflatable slide out, and people were dropping through that thing,

(46:08):
one after the other.

Speaker 13 (46:10):
Okay, yeah, I saw a guy do that.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
He had two little kids in his arms, so he
was flying with his kids. It was it sucked. That
would have been awful. Here's the thing, and people aren't
talking about this. They there were There were passengers that
were taking time to grab items from the overhead bins.

(46:48):
You're not supposed to do that in an emergency, right,
Like the land was on fire, the planes on fire.
You don't grab your overhead luggage. You just get out
of the gd plane.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Right, there's a bunch of fuel that's in danger of
catching fire here, Like, come on, I oh.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
That would drive me nuts if I if I was impeded,
if I was about if I was next to get
on that slide and some old bag was reaching up
there to get her luggage, and.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
It always Mike's shore. Ever too, would you go full
George Costanza and knock a child or woman out of
the way. Uh No, I know I would. I will
give a forearm shiver to a child they're grabbing luggage.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Okay, if they're grabbing luggage, yes, I would absolutely spear
them right, give them the full Bronze breaker experience.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I don't care if you're a child. I don't care
if you're a woman. If there is all of this
jet fuel that's in danger of exploding, you're getting knocked
the bleape out. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. You're
listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is here.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Do we have to wait for it? Can we get
right into it? I think we can get right into
Let's do some legal.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Stuff, legal stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Crime punishment, judges, legal stuff, legal stuff.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
The Attorney General Todd Raketa helping us out there. This
is pure Trump. I don't know if this is obviously
we're not lawyers. I don't know if this is legal
or not. But Trump says Beyonce and Oprah should be
prosecuted for endorsing Kamala Harris during her campaign, and I

(48:36):
just don't know. Like on his social media stuff, I
never know if it's trolling or if it's to get
people talking. But in a truth social post, Trump alleged
that the Democrats paid Beyonce, Oprah, Al Sharpton and others
for endorsements, which he claims.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Is totally illegal all caps total, isn't though.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
I mean, so the financial records Democrats are paying the
celebrities to come out. And if you look at the
financial records from the official presidential campaign, they show that
Harris's team spent significant funds on events featuring celebrity endorsers,
but those expenses were for support, staff and production cost,

(49:28):
not payments to the celebrities themselves. This is from a
New York Times report. Trump previously called for a.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Major investigation, major investigation and to pro Harris celebrity endorsers,
but no evidence was found of illegal payments. Now keep
in mind Trump's had his share of celebrity endorsers as well,
Kid Rock, Dana White, Haul Cogan, Jason Alden, Brett Favre,

(49:57):
comedian Tony Hinchcliff. But he saying that there's some shady numbers,
some fuzzy math, as w once said, going on with
some of the big wigs of the Dems. What was
that thing would be?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Wasn't there a thing with Beyonce and Kamala where like
they everybody showed up thought Beyonce was performing.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
And they thought Beyonce was going to perform, but she
just walked out there, kind of pulled to Jimmy Dugan,
waved your little hat and brought up Kamala Harris and
that was it. Thank you, leg of their own half
the people left, Like once Beyonce walked off the stage
and they realized they weren't going to get anything from

(50:37):
the single Ladies album or Cowboy Carter, they were like,
screw this, We're just stuck here with Kamala, Bite Me
prosecutor Brah. Like the whole point of Baker Up is
just to get under their skin and pissed people off, right,
Like that's the whole point of this. And he can
because he's the President of the United States and he

(51:00):
won and that's what drives the nuts.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
So is it the same thing though, Like I'm sure
Tony Hinchcliff was paid for that appearance that he made
where he made the Cuban joke and got into all
that truck didn't get in trouble, but it went viral.
I'm sure all those guys got paid to show up
and do that. They're not doing that for free, are they?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
No? But you have to make sure you document everything properly. Right, Okay,
we paid Tony Hinchcliffe for this, and then to say that,
you know, you're getting this big show and nobody's getting
any money for it. I don't know. The whole thing's weird.
Nothing's going to happen of it. If nobody is going
to jail for the Epstein stuff, I promise you Oprah
and Beyonce are going to be just fine, just fine.

(51:47):
More legal stuff yep Daylight, Oklahoma, Okay. Deputy in Oklahoma
was arrested for a dewey hmm after he crashed his
patrol vehicle into a street sign. Now, the sheriff said
he's taking the situation seriously, but other than the drinking,
the guy's been a standout employee. Here's some more of

(52:10):
what the sheriff had to say about the incident.

Speaker 14 (52:12):
His performance with us has been outstanding. He had a
military career before that. He showed obvious signs of intoxication.
You know, he admittedly said that he had taken ambient
and had drank.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Alcohol after that. Oh, so what do we do here? Yes,
there was a dewey he was driving drunk, but other
than that, he's a.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Rock star, stand out employee. No, I don't like to
see cops make bad decisions like that. He also mentioned
Ambien and I have taken Ambient, and I have a
prescription for Ambient. I don't take it every night, but like,
like it misses, like if you mix even a little

(52:52):
bit of alcohol with that stuff, it affects you in
a way that that it's it's weird, man, I've done it.
Not be honest, Stop beating around the bush. You've done it.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
How was it?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
I just fall asleep. I just fell asleep. Which pix
that sleep?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Just beer? Okay, just beer.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I would take an ambient and just finish my beer
and just fall asleep. But like, some people take that
stuff and wake up and don't even know they're awake
and eat a loaf of bread right in the middle
of the night. But the thing is, this guy was
in his patrol car. It wasn't like he was driving
his Prius taxpayer funded patrol car. Yeah, he got the

(53:36):
DUI in his patrol car. Yeah, you probably need some help.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
I don't know what the protocol is with you know,
should he be fired?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Should he? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Maybe he is a problem, but yeah, if you're taking
ambient and then drinking and then driving your patrol car,
that's probably a fireble offense.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
And he crashed into a sign. It wasn't like he
was drinking and driving. And he was like, I'm fine,
I'm a good drunk driver. No you're not. You crashed
into a sign. More legal stuff. Boy, if I had
a dollar for every time I've seen this, Okay. A
twerking argument led to a woman biting off another woman's finger.

(54:25):
Twerking argument that's the headline.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Torking argument leads to woman biting off another woman's finger.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
A woman in West Virginia got upset when another woman
started twerking on her, so she bit the tip of
the woman's finger off. She was arrested for malicious wounding.
So again, she's minding her own business. Maybe she's reading
the Bible, I don't know, and this crazy lunatic comes

(54:51):
over starts twerking right on her. Sure, the woman that
was standing there says, hey, please stop doing that. Corker continues,
So then she bites her finger off to make her stop.
And now she's the one going to jail. I think
that sucks. So the question I have for the brain
trust in this room, Allison, you're involved in this conversation.

(55:14):
Have you ever twirked? Now, I've got more faith that Allison,
who's probably been to more bars you know that have
danced themes than we have. Nige have probably twirked. But
when was the last time, if ever, you've twirked? Allison?

Speaker 8 (55:31):
I don't think I've actually twirked. I'm more of the robot,
the sprinklar type of girl, you know, get the man around. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
No, I'm also is doing the Carlton dance from Fresh Prince?

Speaker 8 (55:47):
Ah, Yeah, that's That's more of my go about.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Okay, here's your assignment because I know you're going to
Nashville for a little girl's trip this weekend. Yeah, I'm not,
you're tworking. Yeah, get that on video. We want you
or one of your friends to get that on video.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
You.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I don't care if you're at kid Rocks Jason al Dean's,
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Where you're gonna have AI Allison Torking, No, no.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Well I made one. Yes, We've got one somewhere.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Nige everrked before, never before, neither have I.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
I mean maybe like kind of like to entertain my
kids in the kitchen, like if I'm in there.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
But like in a real serious way. We're like I
like in the Vogue, Yes, at a concert. No Pepper's
two thousand and six.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
I don't think there was such a thing as working
Get Peppers in two thousand and six.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Okay, So here's what's gonna happen. You and I Nidge,
are gonna have a good old fashioned torquing contest. No,
we're not, get to the YouTube feed right now wibc's
YouTube page. We're gonna go to a commercial break and
on the back end now one on one, no mono emono,

(56:59):
you versus Me Nige a twerking contest and the people
on the YouTube chat will vote who the winner is. Okay,
so go to wibc's YouTube channel, jump on there right now.
When we come back from commercial break, we will be
live and a good old fashioned twerkoff between Nige and I.

(57:21):
Listen v Beach Grove winner take all. What are we
doing so here? In just a moment, we're gonna cue
the music. By the way, if you're watching on the
YouTube chat right now, if you're here, give us a
thumbs up, give us a like. The only reason we're
asking is that the young people in the digital department
they want us to have one hundred likes, and we
just want them to shut up. So if you could

(57:42):
do that favor for us, that'd be great. Give us
a thumbs up on this YouTube chat. But you guys
are also gonna vote who do you think is the
better twerker between Nige and myself. Okay, so we're gonna
use Nigel's camera because my camera's you know, with the
window here, there's no good lighting. All right, so nudge
when you hear the music, go ahead and do your thing.

(58:03):
Here we go, Alison, fire it up.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
This is I never agreed to this. I don't want
to do this, seriously, I.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Have come on. Nudge back that thing up.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
Okay, now you have to hold something for Ballan.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
He's holding the table because he's out of breath.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
I'm not one on the speed Okay, I can.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
All right.

Speaker 8 (58:34):
I don't think you really packed it him. I think
you just kind of.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Okay, he slowly parked that thing up. Okay, all right,
not bad.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
All right, you come over here and then do it.
Then here put on my headphones. You can listen to
the music here and.

Speaker 8 (58:51):
Uh, you know, Hammer practiced office earlier.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
The worst part about this is I have to turn
around and you see my bald spot.

Speaker 8 (58:59):
All right, yeah, that's the worst part of this.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
About Alison. Be careful, you may get pregnant. Here. Here
we go, all right, you can walk.

Speaker 8 (59:12):
Sle okay down.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
You know what.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
I applaud you guys. That wasn't too bad. I only
feel a little sick.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I need a shot me too, I need something. You
lifted your shirt up and I saw your boxers. I
give to people what they want.

Speaker 13 (59:40):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
You're wearing jeans and it's ninety five degrees out. I'm sorry,
I'm not. Everybody looks like they've been fishing all day
like you do. Nudge, I will say.

Speaker 8 (59:49):
And the jeans makes it even more impressive.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah the jeans. Oh man, that.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
Was you do had very different styles, I will say.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Yes, I don't even know, so, I'm not even sure
if I did it correctly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Did I tourk correctly? Yes it was. It was a
little slower, but there were some twerking there. I like
how I got to hold the table for leverage, so
I'm glad he did so by using one name only,
either Hammer or Nigel. Get in the YouTube chat right
now and just type the name of who you think
won Hammer if you thought it was me, or Nigel

(01:00:25):
if you thought it was Big Nightge. My grandma listens
to this program. She listens.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
She has two radios and one for upstairs one for downstairs.
When she's doing her jigsaw puzzle.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Correct me if I'm wrong, and maybe somebody from our
newsroom can correct me on this. This was the first
time there's been a torking contest since Mike Pence was
doing the midday show. Here it was Mike Pence and
Todd Meyer had that torque off back uh in the
two thousands, I believe. So let us know what you
think on the YouTube chat, man, and while you're there,

(01:00:56):
you gotta give me a heads up the next time
we're doing that. I didn't know we were. Everybody's writing
Alison one. Roger says Nigel. Okay, Helen says Nigel. Back
that thing. U okay, I've got Venida, I've got Donna,
I've got John Thomas, says Nigel. Nigel. The boxers were

(01:01:17):
discussing Mark Ginter I vote present, Mike Williamson. We all lost.
I vote President Nicholas. The winners were those who didn't
watch Keep him coming. Hit that like button on the

(01:01:38):
YouTube page, Nige and I gonna go get some oxygen,
maybe chuck of beer, and uh, we're coming right back.
It's the Hammer and Nigel show, Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 14 (01:01:48):
You believe these characters are weirdos.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is right over there.
Donald Trump really really really really really really really wants
to see this Russia Ukraine thing in after years and
he wants to be the one that negotiates it. He
wants to be the one that facilitates it. And he

(01:02:13):
is not happy with Putin right now. In fact, a
few weeks ago he's like, Putin's got fifty days, fifty
days before we impose restrictions and tariffs. And Trump now
is saying he's reduced the fifty day mark to like
what ten days, ten to twelve days, ten to twelve

(01:02:36):
days to kind of like like wrap this whole Russia
Ukraine thing up that's been going on for years now,
and he wants to be the one that facilitates it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I understand it. He campaigned on it. He said it
would take like one day. He did say twenty four hours.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Yeah, yeah, he said one day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
But unfortunately Puti Tang is a little bit more difficult
to deal with than most world leaders. So earlier today
Donald Trump was speaking about a possible ceasefire deal between
Ukraine and Russia. But Poudi Tang not wanting to play
ball here he is talking to the press.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I would have said five times we would have had
a deal. I've spoken to President and Putin a lot.
I always had got along with him very well. But
five times and every time four times maybe, But we've
had discussions. You and I have had discussions. We thought
we had that settled numerous times. And then President Putin

(01:03:38):
goes out and starts launching rockets into some city like
Kiev and kills a lot of people in a nursing
home or whatever. You have bodies lying all over the street.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
And I say, that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
The way to do it. So we'll see what happens
with that. A very disappointed. I'm disappointed, and President Putin
very disappointed at him. We're going to have to look
and I'm going to reduce that fifty days that I
gave him to a lesser number because I think I
already know the answer what's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Happen, and that lesser number is being reported as ten
to twelve days.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Our president sometimes just puts things so bluntly in a
way that like, yay, last lunch, dimension missiles into a
nursing home, kill a lot of people or whatever. So
I'm reducing it down to ten days. I know what
he's trying to do. I understand. I want to see
it in too, and he.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Wants to have some of his global partners jump on
board with him and say, oh, okay, if you want
to just continue this war for the sake of doing it,
then we're all going to tear iff the Bejesus out
of you. And listen, you're not the only major player here. Russia,
the United States, the UK. It's going to take a
couple of different groups to do it, but the US

(01:04:53):
is willing to lead on it. Now. Speaking of tariffs,
there's a lot of people that weren't in fail of
the tariffs. So what do you know these out Oh no, no, no.
A lot of tariff experts started popping up on social media.
Tariff experts, you know, the same people who were covered
experts before and experts on constitutional law before the COVID people,

(01:05:16):
they've now turned into tariff people. They thought this country
would be just in a major recession at this point
in Donald Trump's presidency because of the tariffs. Hasn't really
worked out that way. Bill Maher was one of those guys.
At least he is stepping up to the plate and
admitting that he was wrong.

Speaker 12 (01:05:37):
I remember, I, along with probably most people, were saying
at the beginning, oh, you know, by the fourth of July,
somebody had a thing how the country was. The economy
was going to be tanked by then, and I was
kind of like, well, that seems right to me. But
that didn't happen now, it could happen tomorrow. I'm just saying,

(01:05:58):
that's reality.

Speaker 15 (01:05:59):
So let's work first from the reality or that not
from I just hate Donald Trump because that's boring and
doesn't get us anywhere and leads you to dishonesty. Because
the truth is, the stock market is at record highs.
I know not everybody is by the stock market, but
I also drive around. I don't see a country in
a depression at all. I see people out there just

(01:06:21):
living their lives. And I would have thought, and I
got to own it that these tariffs were going to
sink this economy by this time, and they didn't.

Speaker 12 (01:06:34):
That's the fact.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
He's bringing people to the table. People, I mean countries.
He's bringing them all to the table and make it
a little extra scratch on the side. I mean, that's
that's what Trump is doing. That's all it is. The
art of the deals, the art of the deal. It's
almost like he wrote a book on this kind of stuff. Now,
this is an interesting deal week for Donald Trump. This

(01:06:58):
is a crucial trade week.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
And the old man he's keeping his eye on the
Fed's decision on whether or not they're going to cut rates.
There's been a little bad blood between Donald Trump and
the Fed. Yeah, so we're gonna see if anything changes,
if there's any smoke to the fire. A little bit
later on this week, one more thing on Trump. Here

(01:07:20):
he was speaking with the new head of the UK
and he was doing a press conference and somebody asked
Donald Trump today, as he's sitting next to the leader
of the UK, hey are you interested in touring London
while you're here? Because you've said some pretty critical things
about London's mayor. I keep in mind. The Prime minister's

(01:07:41):
good buddies with the Mayor of London and he's sitting
right next to Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I will, I'm not a fan of your mayor.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I don't think you managed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I think he's not terrible Joe, the mayor of London,
but the nasty person.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I think he's. I think he's a friend of mine. Russian. No,
I think he's done a terrible job.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
But but I would certainly visit London.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
You so the UK Prime Minister jumps in, he's actually
a friend of mine. He's trying to laugh and make
the mood a little lighter. Alice, I want you to
play this again, and then Trump wants to know part
of it. No, No, he's done a terrible job.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I will, I'm not a fan of your mayor. I
don't think you man. I think he's not a terrible job,
the mayor of London, but the nasty person.

Speaker 9 (01:08:31):
I think he's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I think he's a friend of mine. Russia.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
He's a terrible job.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
No, no, no, he's not a terrible job. Thank you,
Miss Alisson. Crack up some booze news.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
You said him up and I'll knock him back. Lloyds Business.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Christopher Spain, thirty eight year old dude out of Florida, Yes,
facing dui charges after the highway patrol said he was
driving erradically.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
That'll happen on the highway and a lawnmower.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Oh, a lawnmower. It's like the Florida man Bingo card.
Here was the lawyer talking about how you can end
up with the dewey even if you're on a lawnmower.

Speaker 16 (01:09:33):
So the way it works in Florida is any vehicle
that's on public highway, you can get a dy and horses, bikes, lawnmowers,
anything that you're riding is considered a vehicle in the
state of Florida. And there's big cases with people on
the back of a horse. They get a duy riding
a lawnmower, riding a bicycle.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
I would say this was bs if the guy was
just mowing his lawn and somebody call the police on him.
But you're saying he was on a lawnmower on the highway. Yes,
he was pulled over by highway patrol. I think that's
probably warrant a duy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Now, the lawyer says, you can be hit with the
dewey if you're on a horse. I feel like that's
the horse's fault. The horse should be the one getting
the guy because he's the one driving.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
True, you're patrolling the horse though with the reins.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
But what if you're just holding onto the rein so
you don't fall, Like it's the horse's job to get
you from A to B. If the horse is walking
all crooked, he's hobbling all crooked, that's the horse's fault.
Maybe the horse was drunk.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
How do you know if the horse like, how do
you know if there is is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
The horse swerving? Yes? Is it? You know what I mean?
And he's slurring. The horse is slurring, he's he's walking
a little crooked. The horse sounds like Nigel coming home
from our bowling event. Dateline in the UK drunk woman
in the UK walked home from the bar and somehow

(01:11:09):
brought a seagull with her. She later bleached her whole
house because she said she found out it may have
had bird flu. Here is pint drinker Aaron Punting talking
about carrying the bird into her house and explaining how
she wants to bring the seagull into her home. He's

(01:11:31):
a beauty, he actually wants to stop my room and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
But I've got actual love of them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
How in the world would she know this thing has
bird flu? Can bird flu?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Can? Can that translate? Can you catch bird flu? I
think you can tell the birds walking around it's coughing.
You know, it's got you know, like a little tissue
in its hand. It's got a raspy grawl, runny beak,
little runny beak going on. You can tell if he's
got the bird flu.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
So she reached her whole house because she said she
found How did she find out it had bird flu?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
That a flu test? Like, that's like the real question here. Yes,
you brought a seagull into your home when you were
hammer drunk. But you're convinced, like you're telling everybody it
has the bird flu. Not you thought it did. You
were telling us, Oh, it's official, like Sanjay Gupta looking
at a picture of Donald Trump of heart disease. That's it.

(01:12:27):
That's it. No, you have no idea. And my god,
how many beverages did this woman have to the point
to where she was walking home and brought a bird
into the house. How did you catch a seagull?

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
I mean, seagulls really are pretty pretty human. Yurtain now,
I mean, if you got food in your hand, you
could catch one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
But to open up your door like I'm sure she
had to get keys out. Like you got keys out,
You jiggle the lock, you open it up, and the
bird stays with you. Like the bird's like, no, I'm
not going anywhere. I'm right or die. Maybe the bird
didn't feel well, and maybe that's why she knew it
had the flu. I have no idea. I started throwing up.
There's only one man I think capable of satisfying this woman.

Speaker 17 (01:13:12):
We drank beer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
I liked beer, still like beer.

Speaker 17 (01:13:16):
Sometimes probably had too many beers, and sometimes other people
had too many beers.

Speaker 9 (01:13:21):
Drank beer. We like beer, beer, the beer.

Speaker 17 (01:13:23):
Beer, beers, beer, some beers, beers with friends, I liked beer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
I still like beer, beer, beer.

Speaker 17 (01:13:30):
Fear in high school drinking beer, which I gladly do
and which I fully embrace. I drank beer with my friends.
I like beer. I still like beer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Do you think you could identify a drunk horse or
a sick goal? Which one could you do better? Could
you say that seagull's got bird flu or I know
that horse is drunk? Which one do you think you
could do all right, I can't do it. Are you
really okay? Are anything's going to be okay? Are you okay? Yeah,

(01:14:10):
I'm fine.

Speaker 12 (01:14:12):
I'm pretty free.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Far from okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Are you okay with this? Are them?

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Nigelista So Hammary's School District in Tennessee has made the
controversial decision to stop excusing absences with doctor's notes. What
kids will be marked present or absent and will face
punishment for all absences. Here's the director of schools talking

(01:14:43):
about the new rules.

Speaker 18 (01:14:44):
You could end up filling the great you could fill
the course. You're going to be to be petitioned to court.
You're not gonna participate in graduation and get your driver's
license permit. And if you've got the sniffles, that's fine,
you're going to have them when you go to work.

Speaker 9 (01:14:55):
One day.

Speaker 18 (01:14:55):
We've all gone to work sick and hurt and beat a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Are you okay with this? No? I'm not lighten up, Francis.
If somebody has an actual doctor's note, that should not
count against them. Yeah, Like, I'm sorry, but that's just
how it works. Now, I get it. You're right. When
you get into the real world, you know, if you
have a doctor's appointment or whatever. You have to take

(01:15:19):
a PTO day or a vacation day or whatever. That's fine.
But these are kids in school and some of them
have to get physical, some of them have to get
checkups for various things. Lighten up just a little bit there,
Doogie Houser. Now, if you really want to get a
quack doctor, yes, then let's go back a couple of

(01:15:40):
years ago when COVID was running rampant through this country.
It was running rampant through Central Indie, and we decided
to make Matt Bher our quack doctor.

Speaker 18 (01:15:52):
The best way to be coronavirus is my drinking nine
to twelve glasses of gravy each day.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
See, I'd rather listen to Matt Bear than who is
it the director of schools in Tennessee saying your doctor's
note doesn't work here. Fine, I'm gonna go to school
with explosive diarrhea. I'm gonna cough, I'm gonna sneeze, I'm
gonna throw up on everybody. Rocky top. There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Oh, I forgot about that nine glasses of gravy?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Was that the advice? I mean, you could probably do eight,
But doctor Matt Bear really recommends nine.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Speaking at Comic Con in San Diego, the creators of
South Park, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, said all of
the stuff they put into a teaser trailer to promote
this season of South Park will not be seen. Here
is the reason why.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Back in like February, right, we made a They're like, oh,
we need to do a promo for the summer.

Speaker 9 (01:16:53):
Like what, like, I.

Speaker 16 (01:16:55):
Don't know what we're gonna do this summer, and they're like, no,
we need to make promo announced the shows are gonna
come back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
We made a promo. We did this thing Southburt's coming
by the side, had showed a whole bunch of clips.
We made it all up just for the promo, like,
and everybody was like, everyone's going to man, those guys
they used to do you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Know, now they're just frontloading.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Shows are not gonna be topic a anymore. It's like,
you seriously think we went and made a bunch of
shows ahead of time and we're like banking them for later,
Like we've never done that, and so we just made
something up and we're like this is.

Speaker 14 (01:17:23):
What we're doing, and we're not doing any of that,
none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Yeah, are you okay with this? It seems like they
make shows weaked week they do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I'm okay with this, and I relate to this because
when we go off the air, we have to record
a promo or a teaser what's coming up tomorrow on
the Hammer and Nigel Show. Our show is based off
the news cycle. Now, unless we've got like a crazy
interview or you know, one of our friends coming on
the show or something, we have no idea what we're

(01:17:54):
gonna be talking about, no clue. So that's why South
Park made this trailer back in February. It shows planes
crashing and a war with Canada, and none of that
stuff is going to be involved in the season because
they do their show week to week. I get it,
I get it. Let's do one more, all right. Athletics
broadcaster Chris Carey, who is the grandson of Harry Carrey

(01:18:19):
and son of Skip Carrey, had to apologize on social
media for making a huge misuge mistake while calling a
game on Saturday Hammer. Here is how it sounded when
Lawrence Butler hit a three run homer against the Astros
that was way left of the foul pole, one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Two pitch high in the air, deep to right, that
ball is foul.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
For gone, that ball was absolutely launch law dog posing
them up at the dish. He knew it off the bat.
It was just a matter of how far.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
So are you okay with? So he had to apologize
what happened there? Was it foul or was it good?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
It was a total home run, It was completely fair.
Was it close to being foul? But I'm not okay
with him having to apologize.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Yeah, the guy, the announcer I had to apologize, totally
lost it in the lights. I'm sorry, no excuses.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
He posted on social media. He said it on the broadcast.
I lost it in the lights. I thought it was
going foul. I said foul. I should have just waited. Okay, fine,
that's not the worst mistake in the world. Like ask
Tom Brenneman. You know about hot mics and having to
apologize on the air. That's an apology. This, No, that's nothing.

(01:19:41):
He's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Protests some sort of demonstration in support of Stephen Colbert.
I'm sure all of it. Hollywood elite friends showed up
and circled the wagons, right. Yeah, the host of the
Late Show got canceled last week or the week before.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
I mean it's losing tens of millions of dollars. They
canceled the Late Show brand all together on CBS.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Two hundred people work on that show and it loses
twenty million bucks a year.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Yeah, and he makes sixteen million dollars in criticizing his
parent company for settling with Donald Trump on some lawsuit
with Kamala Harris in sixty minutes the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Show where he announced the cancelation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Adam Schiff was a guest for two segments.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Just wants to see Adam shift the Senator of California
pencil next shift for two segments. So they were So
there was an organized protest in support of Stephen Colbert,
and it bombed with less than two dozen people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
The New York Post says that organizers thought they had
this big nationwide call for integrity, but this thing was
just a couple dozen people down.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
There in front of the CBS broadcast center.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Right right is that where it was. I mean, if
you're ever in Manhattan and executive CBS, you'll get out
the window going. This is justification that we did the
right thing. They're a big nationwide save Colbert rally, there'd
probably more homeless people out there than they were that
showed up. They probably paid almost people to show up.

(01:21:28):
Right now, David Letterman has spoken for the first time
publicly since the big cancelation of the Late Show brand,
which he created that was part of his production company,
Worldwide Pants the Late Show. So Letterman did a podcast
with a couple of buddies, not really sure who they are,

(01:21:49):
probably former co workers or writers or something, and he
says he's not buying the excuse that it was about money.

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
So I think the idea that they're hiding behind money
and they've given him another ten months, Well, that's another
huge chunk of money they're going to lose according to them.
I don't think it was money cowardice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
So Letterman thinks that the network just didn't want Stephen
Colbert's liberal views exclaiming Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
Now, I think Letterman's got it backwards. It was if
it was a political decision or Trump had any influence
on CBS because of this lawsuit, they would have pulled
Colbert immediately. They gave him ten more months and more money,
which Colbert will use to bash the network constantly and

(01:22:45):
bash Trump. Right, Sorry, Letterman, I love you, man, I
like I loved him. I loved watching Letterman. But he's
got this one wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
The older Dave got, the more surly he became. But
his program, even at the very end when he was
super left right, it wasn't having Adam Schiff for two segments.
You know, he still had Jennifer Aniston on, or you know,
Peyton Manning or whoever it was. It was an entertaining show.

(01:23:17):
But all Stephen Colbert wanted to do was get invited
to the liberal parties. When he got to show up
at Chuck Schumer's party and dance with him, he thought
he had made it. Oh, I forgot about that. How cringe.
And I hope that Chuck Schumer wasn't grilling out the
burgers because as we know, they're all frozen. The cheese
is all frozen. Man, I didn't even know we still

(01:23:40):
had this sound bite, but I think we're going to
use it. We are going to check in and discuss
America's battle against COVID nineteen oh no A last week.
I mean, at this moment, three you know, I don't
know there are nobody cares now you big Finish night

(01:24:07):
because of a doctor from Stanford says that quote the
aggressive mandate of the COVID vaccines has been a bad idea. Stanford,
you think five years late to the party now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Mandate for COVID vaccines or a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
So if you remember, the World Health Organization claimed that
the COVID jabs prevented fourteen point four million deaths in
the first year alone, some estimating up to twenty million.
Is that right? However, new research by Stanford and a
group of Italian doctors that were part of the study

(01:24:52):
revealed that the true number is probably closer to like
two to two and a half million, so twenty to
two and a half million. The team of scientists and
doctors estimated that nine out of ten prevented deaths were
in the over sixties category, while it only saved two
hundred and ninety nine people under the age of twenty

(01:25:15):
and eighteen hundred between the ages of twenty and thirty globally.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
So basically, yeah, if you were in your sixties or seventies,
it was a therapeutic drug, not a vaccine, not a shot.
It was a shot, but not Basically if you were
a sixties it could have lessened the effects.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
It gave you a puncher's chance to beat the thing. Now, look,
I'm not a doctor, Nige, No, you're not a doctor.
We've asked Alison to play a doctor before and all
she did was take us to HR. But I don't
think it takes a rocket scientist to wait five years
to say, yeah, young people, these these vaccines were worth.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
His And nobody's getting these vaccines. Nobody's getting these posts boosters.
I think, I mean, I think we I don't know.
I hear advertisements for them. If there's therapeutics, that's one thing.
If it's like tamiflu, if you have COVID and they
have something that can lessen the effects of the effects

(01:26:17):
of COVID, that's fine. But a vaccine ain't gonna do crap.
And we knew that from the very beginning. I said,
when this whole thing started, I wasn't scared of COVID.
I was scared of the government's reaction and people's to COVID.
And it turned out to be true my fears.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Really, you give them an edge, they'll take a mile. Yes,
two weeks of shott in the curb turned into people
losing their jobs, and then they told us the end.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
The vaccine was going to not only stop people from
getting COVID, it was going to it was going you know,
you were gonna live.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Forever, essentially, Joe Biden, Rachel Maddow, all of the good
time party boys. Yeah, they looked at us, right into
our faces on television. The virus stops with each jab Yep, narrator, No,
it didn't. Bull crap. And this is a Stanford study, right.
Stanford's a smart school, man. Stanford is a smart school.

(01:27:20):
But I don't think it should have taken five years
for their elite team of doctors to say, yeah, it
turns out that healthy people really, uh weren't affected by
the vaccines at all. I really regret get again, I
do too. I do, and I mean good for Rob
Kendall because, yeah, he was in a different place than
we were at his time in the life. He fought

(01:27:42):
it tooth and nail because he was single and he
didn't have kids. We had a family, and we were
told we were going to lose our jobs if we
did not get the job. Now. I liked working for
MS Communications. Jeff Smullian's always been a great boss to us,
mainly because he leaves us alone but that was the
one thing that drove me nuts, having to get a

(01:28:03):
job against my will for fear of losing my job
as the provider of my family.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
Remember, we had to come down to the lobby every day,
like we were lucky enough to still be able to
come to work during the heat of COVID, right, But
we had to put our faces in front of this
what was it temperature scanner? It was an iPad that
took your temperature. I don't think it worked, no, No,

(01:28:30):
it turned green for me every time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
We could have walked in here, just pasty white, pale
sweat porn from our head, like you could see the
COVID germ on our face and it would pass you
through like it's just all theater, right, like most of
the COVID rules. Sure, that's what it was. It was
all theater. I did I did end up getting Did
you have COVID? Did you? Yes? I had it. I

(01:28:53):
got it on vacation once.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Okay, Yeah, Alison claims I gave it to her.

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
All I'm saying was years ago, four years ago, two
days before Christmas, you came down with COVID and two
days later Jerry Lopez, who was filling in for Hammer
and I both got COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
I mean, you don't know the math.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
I did come down with COVID because.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
You were the first person in America to have COVID.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
That's right, in twenty nineteen. In October of twenty nineteen,
yaro so sick. That's why I ask Alex Berenson, who
is a friend of the show who talks about COVID
and was one of the first dissenters, and question and
looked at the data. I thought COVID was here earlier

(01:29:41):
than December of twenty nineteen. October, I got so sick
in twenty nineteen, I was out for ten days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I threw you out of the studio.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
Yes, that's right, that was that was r Yes, you
threw me out of the studio because I was I
was I was trying to kind of. I was sitting
here shaken and I was sweating, and you go get
the out of here, and you didn't see me for
ten days, and then you had to go on. But
you went on vacation, and then I thought, Okay, I'm better,

(01:30:12):
I'm back. And then our boss pulled me into the
side studio goes, are you sure you're still okay, because
you look like shit. I'll never forget that. So I
think COVID was here before, and it's all because of you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
You were the one. You went to the wet market.
You bit the bat. Wasn't that the theory, right, the
wet market theory?

Speaker 7 (01:30:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Yeah, it could possibly be that China screwed up and
even though we funded them, they released it on purpose. Yeah,
it's people biting a bat in a wet market. I mean,
think about all the lies we were told.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
I light here but no, Nancy Pelosi going down to
China Town and San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Nothing to see here. No, And if you had any
sort of doubt with that, you got all the butt
sniffers on social media calling you a grandma killer. Excuse me,
I really don't see how this mask made in China
that doesn't do anything. Why I have to put it
on when I go to a restaurant but take it
down when I eat. If I stand up and sit down,

(01:31:16):
there are different rules. Oh, you want to kill grandma?

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
In this study now saying oh, the JEBS saved twenty
million dollars twenty million people. Oh no, and actually maybe
saved two million people over the age of sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Okay, right, It's almost as if healthy people were going
to be fine and everybody overreacted because it was an
election year and they thought they could tie it to Trump.
Interesting tenfoil hat. It's the hammer in Nigel Show, The
hammer in Nigel Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Do you suppose we'll meet any wild animals?

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
The dingo ain't your baby? And now hummer Nigel probably presents.
They just scary, cry and three words Nige Show. Tarantulas
are comings, these mirantulas. I think they're kind of docile

(01:32:15):
and like non aggressive, but they just look scary and
they're furry. I don't like furry critters on me. Free spiders.
Tarantula's in the southwest and West will be emerging for
mating season, with tens of thousands expected to be on
the move. Generally a docile spider, but they should be

(01:32:40):
left alone as handling them could result in a bite.
Now they prefer obviously the dry climates the southwest the West.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
But the movies always portray them as the most scariest
spiders on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Earth, right, And they're big and they got the legs
and they crawl on you and they're furry. Remember that
Brady bunch of episode where one crawled on. Was it
Peter or Greg? I don't remember. They were in Hawaii
and the spider came up because he had the little
teaky necklace thing on and you heard that little music
go and that's when the spider would come up. Nope,

(01:33:15):
don't remember that, nobody. I'm the only one that remember
if the damn spider on The Brady Bunch hate you

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Guys, Damn nature, You're scary.
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