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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
My name is Nigel, Jason Hammer is here are our
lovely producer.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Alison Lemon's behind the soundboard? What's her name? Alison Lemon
behind the soundboard?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Sometimes I accidentally call her Ashley for whatever reason. But
five minutes ago, I does it seem like Hammer like
I read about these small plane crashes happening all the
time all across the country. We had one happen in
Greenwood today, a small plane crash. The pilot apparently the
only one that died tragically. This happened in Greenwood, next

(00:40):
to the Interstate, I believe, And it seems like we
hear about these types of things a lot.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
It's one of those things where I wonder if it's
because we've gotten more media now, or is this happening
more like has this type of thing always happened at
this frequency, but we might not have had everybody with
a camera.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I feel like it has. I always hear about these
small plane crashes going down and executives or whoever's flying them.
You know, recreationally something goes wrong and you know, families
are killed, or in this case, we had one female
I believe killed at the scene. I I think it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
The pilot, right right, it was the pilot.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
She was the only one on board. And the plane
crashed between a Circle K gas station and the Nest
event center. And the wreckage was just about twenty feet
away from the gas station building. And this was in Greenwood,
like near like one of the main streets.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Now there's the Greenwood Airport I think is a couple
of miles away from there. Yeah, from a why where
the crash is a boy talk about? I mean, if
you would have crashed into that Circle K gas station,
there would have been many more fatalities, correct, And I'm
talking like if you hit the wrong I mean an explosion,
just crashing it into.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
A gas station.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
In addition to the people, you have the human fireball
that would happen with the crash, and now it's burning
up gasoline. Possibly if you hit a car or a
gas pump or something like that. I don't know, but yeah,
this I hate to say it could have been worse
when one person lost their wife here, But had that
hit that Circle K gas station, you're talking a mass

(02:23):
casualty event. So Southsiders, I would imagine they're probably still
in the process of cleaning that mess up.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Be careful, man.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I didn't even know we still have this piece of
audio here, Roge I thought we had deleted it a
while back. But when the situation arises, I think it's
only appropriate that we check in with a wheeling, dealing, hairsliffing,
kiss stealing Joe Biden.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I got Harry Legs Happy Birday?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Could Joe drown Jackson?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
John Kajohn Katani, Ashley Lemons, oh Man. So, two of
Joe Biden's aides testifying in DC as part of this
investigation into the mental decline of hair Sniff mcgade.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
They needed investigation for this. I think we saw it
play out in public. We saw it play out in
the debate against him and Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
According to CNN's Jake Tapper, So take this for what
you want. Former Biden aide Ashley Williams, see this is.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
That's what it was.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Ashley Williams told congressional members behind closed doors.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Quote, I would not say.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
A good memory was an important trait for working at
the White House.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
It's not good. Hold on, wait a minut, Wait, that's
not good.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Trying to process this, she said this to Congress. I
would I would say, a good memory was it? Say
it again, Read it again.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I'm gonna reado the whole passage here. Okay, get your
pen out, get your paper out. I know this is difficult.
That's Alison, not Ashley. We're talking about Ashley, now, okay.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Quote. The source said.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Ashley Williams stated quote she did not recall many times
during her five hour interview to several questions, including whether
teleprompters were used for cabinet meetings, if there were discussions
about Biden needing a wheelchair, if there were discussions about
Biden undergoing a cognitive test, if she discussed Biden declining

(04:49):
physically or mentally, if she ever had to wake Biden up,
and how she got involved in his twenty twenty campaign.
The source said that Williams, I would not say a
good memory was an important trait for working at the
Biden White House the Presidents of the United States Office.

(05:13):
I would say the exact opposite. I wouldn't say a
good memory is an important trait for working at the
White House. You would think, you would think the most
powerful man in the world. You would think it would
be I don't know a criteria that you have to
have a decent memory.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now, is she talking about the president, she's talking about
herself because she couldn't recall them using a teleprompter, or
is she talking about both of them?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I think that I have a problem with any of that.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yes, if you're the president and you have a bad memory,
that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
If you're his.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Staffers, somebody that's important enough to be called into DC
and you have a poor memory, that's a problem. If
it's both of you, that actually explains quite a bit
over what we saw twenty four. That explains quite a
bit good memories.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's not an important trait for working at the you know,
working at the top of the heap of the world
of the free world.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Like if you would have said, like a fast food
joint or something, you're not having a good memory. You
can still work at Burger King. Oh okay, think you
need a good memory when working at Burger King, especially
the drive through. You got to remember their order, and
if you're anything like my youngest son, your order is
going to be a big pain in the ass. Where
it's minus this an extra that you have to have

(06:36):
a better memory to work at Burger King than the
Joe Biden White House let that sink in read damn ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Holy God Almighty.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
As.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I do not recall.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
You don't have to have a good memory to work
on the Hammer of Nigel show. People would expect that,
but not the White House.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Nige. If you need a reason to drink tonight.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Happy is seventy eighth birthday to one of the great
character actors of our generation, a guy that always plays
just a little mealy mouthed worm, just the sleeze and
everything he's in. William Atherton William seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
He was.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
He was the TV reporter in Die Hard, Mister Clayton.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Now that it's all over, after this incredible ordeal, what
are your funeral?

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Plunch in the face.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
He was the smug professor Jerry Hathaway in the Val
Kilmer classic Real Genius.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Look, I want to start seeing a.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
Lot more of you in a lab.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Fine all gamewait, Thanks Jerry, we try.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
You know, when I first brought you into this school,
I thought you'd become another Einstein, and you were well
on your way.

Speaker 9 (07:58):
And then I'm gonna hear.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
You me, Jerry.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Real Genius is so good. It's underrated.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
And there's so many great lines, right William Atherton's seventy
eight right, wow, And he.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Kind of plays the same role and everything he's in.
But he's awesome and everything he's in. Yes, but I
think it's the gold standard, Nige. I think you'll agree
with me. Here, known for playing the EPA inspector Walter
Peck in Ghostbusters.

Speaker 8 (08:26):
I'm Walter Peck, sir, and I'm prepared to make a
full report. These men are consummate snowball artists that you
sense a nerve gases to induce hallucinations. People think they're
seeing ghosts, and they call these bozos who conveniently show
up to deal with the problem with the fake electronic
light show. Everything was fine with our system until the
power grid was shut off by was here.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
They caused an explosion.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Is this true?

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Yes, it's true.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
This man has no.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
William Atherton.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
And then later on in the Seen Bill Murray goes, well,
you can believe mister Pecker if you want.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
That pisses him, He goes, my name is Peck. Wow,
seventy eight big number.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
If you ever need to cast somebody that's just a
sy smug a hole, you call William Athertons come in.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nichel Show every Nigel
Road Show. That's Friday, Indiana State Fair Holding Day at
the Indiana State Fair. Hammer will be well, it's beer
Sample Friday. We'll be in the the be of the
tap room, the beer garden, whatever you want to call it,
and we'll be having a show. We'll be having a time,
and it's all brought to you by the good folks

(09:39):
at Wilson Farm Market.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
You can't have the Indiana State Fair without corn and
Wilson Farm Market. They're kind of the corn people. It's
the jam, it's kind of what they do. So yeah,
I'm excited for it. The deep Fried Oreo eating contest
scheduled for the four o'clock hour. That's if the chicken
blank has enough testicular fortitude to actually show up at

(10:04):
the Fair on Friday. What is it, Mariachi Bill or something,
but Mariacci Bob is your names are not your strong
suits today?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Mariachi Bob as he calls himself, Bob whatever. Gold jacket,
green jacket gives a All I know is that he's
gonna get beat.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
I'm not the best eater in the world, because, as
you know, I can't even swallow pills. I gotta chew
everything up. I've got a bad swallow thing. Could we
just all listen. There's a clip for you. But I
still have never lost a deep fried oreo content? Do
you like vitamins and like, like if you have surgery?
I know you had to, I know you had something.

(10:41):
Where do you have to like chew up vico in
if you have Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I can also crush it up and snort it. Well,
there's that. I wouldn't recommend that route. But you you
can't swallow pills whole. I still find it after all
the years of knowing you, I just don't like, not
even like a little D three vitamin I've offered you four.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Like it's a total mental thing.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I can chew up steak and swallow it. It's big
bites of me.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
But if I know there's a pill somewhere in my mouth,
then I freak out and I've got to make sure
everything's flat chewed up before it.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Goes down the old windpipe. Wow, I know it's weird.
I get like, I get this uncanny ability. I could
take a handful of supplements and shove them in my
mouth and swallow it down. I get it for my dad.
I think he used to. He used to be a
body my biological dad's bodybuilder, and just he'd had all
these supplements. He'd take handfuls of them. Either that or

(11:37):
they were kuayludes, you know, grew up in the late seventies,
early eighties, and just just put them all in his
mouth and with one swig of a Budweiser, they'd all
go down at once.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So science, I don't know what they are, but hug
it with a Budweiser.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It'll go down.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But you can do a deep fried Oreo eedie contest,
no problem. Correct. You beat my brother in the chicken
tender Chicken juggett contest back in the day in the
podcast days. Correct by watching that down with the warm tequila.
I needed the beverage and I had tequila on the standby.
So join us on Friday, have air conditioned tap room.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Should be a pretty It's gonna be a nice day. Yeah,
like day in.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
The like eighties, you know, like low eighties, maybe the seventies.
On Friday, we're gonna have a low temperature of like
fifty nine. By Saturday, morning. That's pretty solid.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Open the windows up.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Okay, uh, back to school today for a lot of
kids around Central Indies.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh, I saw Jake the Sneak backing out of the
old hammer driveway.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Senior year started today.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Baby, my god, you've got a junior in college and
a senior in high school. Dude, I knew your kids
when they were ankle biters. It makes me feel old.
I could imagine how how old you feel.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm not saying I feel old, but every time I
get up, I got bad noise. Make an old man noise,
old man noises. Man, you have to trip like I gotta.
I got one going into fifth and one going into seventh.
So that's not Your kids are still out, they're you know,
they're still younger. But boy, a junior in college, Chris

(13:22):
is when you said that. The other day we were
talking to the back to JMV and I could have
sworn when JV asked him if he was going to
be what grade he was going to into, I said sophomore,
and nope, he's a junior at college in college. And
that blows me away. Yeah, qup cats in the cradle, man,

(13:42):
because I'm saying Makiddo's grow up real quick.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And I don't necessarily like it, but.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
In honor of Back to School Day today for so
many kids in Central Indie.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That are on that kind of year round calendar, you know,
here is.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
A back to school safety tip from the first Lady
of WIBC, the lovely Terry Stacey.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Back to school tips with Terry Stacy.

Speaker 10 (14:07):
Fellas, if you're going to be a freshman this year,
remember you'll be with older students. Find a girl who smokes.
Remember if she smokes.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
She pokes school tists with Terry Stacy, it's the Hammer
and Nigel Shows, The.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know, thank god we have a competent and a
respectful police chief here for the impd here in Indianapolis.
Hammer and I saw a Chief Baily on TV today
talking about one of his officers getting shot yesterday in
the lower body. Thank god, the officer is going to
be okay. But Cincinnati's police chief, what a moron, what

(14:52):
a despicable human being. And you saw the footage of
the couple the white people that were getting attacked in
Cincinnati over the weekend at some jazz festival.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Right, like an older couple on date Night. Yeah, looks
like you know, guys, got like a regular almost like
a buffet kind of like shirt on. And at one
point there's a woman that gets punched in the face
and she's laying on the ground.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
And the police chief is like, I don't know, I
took it as she was like downplaying the attack. Hey
wait a minute, she's blaming social media. And you know,
we don't know the con We don't know the context
of what was going on here.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Right what maybe the really young aggressive thugs deserve to
punch that woman in the face, but.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
We need we need context now we don't And if
you don't know what we're talking about, this was the
press conference yesterday Cincinnati's police chief.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
And we're going to talk about her in just a moment.
Her name is Teresa Feetge. I might be butchering her
last name t h e E Tge.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
This tells me.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
She's not a serious person. Listen to the press conference
after this awful, heinous attack, and listen to who she's blaming.

Speaker 11 (16:04):
Another topic I want to cover real quick social media
and journalism and the role it plays in this incident.
And yes, guys, that's you.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
That is you. Reporters social media.

Speaker 11 (16:17):
The post that we've seen does not depict the entire incident,
that is one what version of what occurred. At times,
social media and mainstream media and their commentaries are a
misrepresentation of the circumstances surrounding any given event.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
What that does.

Speaker 11 (16:40):
That causes us some difficulties in thoroughly investigating the activity
enforcing the law, because what happens that social media post
and your coverage of it distorts the content of what
actually happened.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
What actually happened.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
We saw the thug knock these white people out of
some jazz fest. What are you talking about equity and
context and other than you need to crack down hard
on the individuals that perpetrated this violence.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Screw context?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So what context could possibly? I don't care what the
context is.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
And to say that the video doesn't tell the whole story, no,
it kind of does. The video shows that an angry
group of black individuals beat the hell out of two
elderly white people.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
That's what it shows.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
And I say that because this is a police chief
who was a DEI hire. She's a white woman, but
she was hired because she was a woman. And right now,
according to the Cincinnati Inquirer, the paper of record down
on Cincinnati for former high ranking Cincinnati Police Department members.
They're filing a lawsuit against her, claiming systematic basis a

(17:58):
bias of favoring women and minorities in that department. So
the lawsuit basically states that women and minorities have been
getting promoted when they haven't deserved it because the whole
department ran under this woman. They want to look woke
and progressive more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Please, please, please, before you go on to make judgments,
just to understand the context under which these people were
beaten to with an inch of their lives. We need
to understand the context. No, the police chiefs and the
politicians and the judges. You just you know you're gonna
have to, you know, could you imagine being the couple

(18:36):
that wake up to the news footage after being unconscious. Well,
there's some context here.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, the guy said he likes jazz and got nearly murdered.
A woman got punched in the face, bleeding on the ground.
And the reason that this woman, this police chief in Cincinnati,
is so upset is because she can't blame this on
other white people. That's all It is, at least that's
my opinion at this point.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And like only one person, if I'm understanding what I
read correctly in another article on somebody only one person
called nine one one.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's a problem in society.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Though Cincinnati is a big city, and the fact that
this happened in a large city is just it's a
sickness in society.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
And instead of owning up to bad people doing bad things,
like I don't care if you're white or black. You
commit an act like that, you need to have your
ass locked in jail. But the last thing I want
to hear is a lecture on how dare you have
an opinion on what your own eyeballs saw?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Bite me woman? No oh.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
By the way, the one of the suspects in the
Cincinnati mob assault had just been freed on a measly
four hundred dollars bond for a previous felony.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Sounds like an Indianapolis type situation, a sweetheart deal.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
What do you know?

Speaker 4 (19:59):
You would think having video of that attack would be
a blessing. We're going to freeze the frames. We're going
to see who these people are, We're going to find
out who their friends are. Justice will be served, but instead,
how dare you look at it? How dare you judge?
No kiss the whitest, pastiest part of my backside. Woman,

(20:19):
you should not be blaming anybody else for that heinous
attack other than the people that did it. And I
don't care if they're white or black or hispanic or
whoever they are. Find them, use the video, find them
and lock their Assess if.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I've arrested a few people, and like I said, one
of them has a rap sheet a mile long, which
includes a felony and a sweetheart plea deal, a bail,
you know, cash bail, low bail, no bail, four hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
According to the Cincinnati Inquirer, these four former high ranking
police officers at the Cincinnati Police Department alleges that since
her appointment as chief, race based quota system has been
implemented for promoting women and racial minorities to the rank
of lieutenant, like an actual system in place based solely

(21:10):
off of sex and rates.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, just to give you're a dude, a white dude
that just wants to you know, loves police work, loves
law enforcement, loves what he does for a living, just
wants to succeed and climb and claw his way up
through the ranks. Nope, sorry, white dude, Whitey can't can't
help you have fun on have fun on those late

(21:33):
night beat patrols.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right, ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Did you stay up to watch any tsunami coverage see.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Any of that until this morning? Dude? And at first
I thought, whoa what I'm seeing? Hawaii, Japan, Russia. I'm like,
what the hell happened? And then I started scrolling some
more and seeing that everything's okay. But holy what time
did that all start to off?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
So it was probably around seven ish, right around that time,
eight point eight earthquake over in Russia, which is a big,
strong Mamma jama.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
And this was near the water, so it was kind.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Of up there near that Alaska, Russia type of area.
Eight point eight is super strong. I believe that's like
a top ten earthquake of all time. Luckily it wasn't
a highly populated area, but it did cause tsunami warnings
for the western coast of the United States and Hawaii.

(22:35):
People were really concerned about Hawaii, and right around one fifteen,
one point thirty in the morning, the big waves did
start to make their way to Hawaii. I think they
were around six maybe six and a half feet. It
wasn't whoa, the tragedy they thought it was going to
be though, Like at first they thought, man, everybody better
get the high.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Ground right now, six feet hitting the shore or did
it dissipate as is that got closer to the shore waves.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Coming in at six feet and then kind of whoa.
So they did have a little bit, but it wasn't
the tragic situation they were anticipating. But the story last
night and this was like something that was all over
social media. People were ripping on Oprah because I guess

(23:21):
Oprah has got a house in Hawaii and she owns
the street and it's up on a very high part
of land. If you go up to like the volcano area,
and depending on the island you're on in Hawaii, you
can get to high ground where I guess Oprah owns
the whole street where you take to get up to
one of her vacation homes. And she had it blocked off,

(23:41):
so people fearing a tsunami weren't allowed to go up
there because there's also a patrol person that's there all
the time.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
You ain't coming up my street.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
And after a lot of blowback on social media. I
think she ultimately changed her mind and allowed that street
to open up.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
You better get to light jackets and the vests in
the the inflatable boats because you ain't coming on my street.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Oprah's trying to say I never closed it to people,
but there are videos out there that show people like
the sirens are going off, the tsunami warning sirens.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Hope you've got a raft.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
People they're trying to get up there, and the police
blocking the street there. Sorry, it's a private residence. Hope
you can swim. I mean I got an extra life
jacket in the back. Hasn't been a good week for Oprah.
I from a PR perspective, you got Donald Trump saying
she should be prosecuted. Oh yeah, You've got the folks

(24:39):
in Hawaii saying, hey, it'd be nice if you could
open up your big private street so we could escape
mass flooding. That'd be fantastic. And it only took public
shaming for that to happen. It's the Hammer and Nigel
Show again. We're trying to get all the kids fired
up from back to school time. Ndge wait a year's
go back to school Tuesday Tuesday. Okay, my oldest goes

(25:01):
back to college here in like a couple of weeks,
so he's got some time. But my youngest went back today.
I know a lot of kids senior year went back
to school today.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh boy.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
So to get everybody in the mood, here are some
more back to school safety tips from the lovely Terry Stacy.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Back to school tips with Terry Stacy.

Speaker 10 (25:21):
If your science teacher checks you for a hernia, just
be sure to thank him when he's done.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Back to school Tips with Terry Stacy totally normal.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Nothing to see there.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I saw this stat on Happy Gilmore two on Netflix,
and I was I guess I was surprised. I don't
know why, but Netflix set a record for the biggest
opening weekend ever for a movie on their platform, Happy
Gilmore two. Let's see forty six point seven million views

(25:57):
over three days.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Big number, big numbers.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
But it's like, you were so right Hammer when you say, like,
we're not even talking about the box office, the quote
unquote the box office, the movie theater. It's like Fantastic four,
Who cares, right, I've never hey, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Know there was a one through three.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I think Smurf's was in the top five at the
box office over the weekend. I don't know if Mission
Mission Impossible is still in there?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Has there been.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Anything original been worth talking about, like at the movie
theater in a while, because it's all just reboots or
sequels or prequels or things like that, like.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Not since Barbenheimer, right right, right? I mean, can you
think of another weekend? I mean, those guys did phenomenal
and then even some of the original animated movies. Though
here's the thing, the original animated movies. God, what was
the other one? My wife took elo is, No, it

(27:05):
was another one, but it just has to been doing
it very well. But all the other like Inside Out
to made a billion dollars last year. But again back
to my point, happy good Moore too, is anybody's ever
been talking about I feel like this week And it
wasn't even that good.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Just to trill down nostalgia. Ly, it really was.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'd like the cameos, I thought, and I don't want
to give away any spoilers. At the beginning was a
little dark. Actually it was a little bizarre to me.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well so was the first one.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
The first one, I mean was the same way again,
not trying to give it anything away.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
But I think the first one were okay with spoilers.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Okay, first one, his dad dies at the hockey game.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't even know who you were.
I forgot about that part right after the funeral.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And then he goes a little with his gram Graham Graham.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Or right, she had the Gene Simmons mask on to
make him feel good. So the first one had its
moments have been a little dark. But forty six point
seven million people in that opening weekend watched Happy Gilmore too,
and our review, I think we were on the same page.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Nige. Yeah, first half pretty good, funny, entertaining.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Good moments, laugh out loud, and then I started scrolling
through my phone.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Last half pretty dumb, even my sammar movie standards. Last
half pretty dumb. But you know what, I watched it.
It was entertaining. I got a few cheap laughs out
of it. It's the cameos, keep your attention. That what
you want with your movie watching experience.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Though, like I never I'm fully expecting when they release
Mission Impossible, the newest one out on pay per view
or whatever, because I didn't get to go see it
in the movie theaters. I'm fully I fully expect to
ear you know, twenty five bucks. It better damn will
be worth it. Okay, if I would have paid twenty
five bucks to watch Happy Gilmore on Netflix, I'd be

(28:55):
pissed off.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
How much do you pay for month? How much is
a net subscription?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But with your subscription though, I'm talking like if Mission
Impossible comes out, it'll be a pay per view thing
where you pay for it by yourself, thinking you can
either buy it for thirty bucks or rent it for
twenty bucks or something like that. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
With Netflix, I can watch Happy Gilmour and whether I
like it or don't, I'll still watch Raw on Mondays.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
The Quarterback Series, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
We just my wife and I started the Quarterback Series again,
which is Kirk Cousins and Golf and uh Joey Burrow
Joey Burrow, Yeah, yeah, and my wife. The only reason
why my wife likes watching those shows. If you don't
know what quarterbacks is, it's it's just behind the scenes
of three quarterbacks, three different NFL teams, what they're going

(29:46):
through training camp and stuff. And the only reason why
my wife likes that is to just check out what
the wives are wearing and the fancy houses and the
and all the stuff like that. I'm kind of more
interested in football aspect, right behind scenes kind of scenes. Yeah,
so we started watching that last night. Are you watching anything.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I'm watching this behind the scenes WWE docu series called
Unreal And what this is is like it's behind the
scenes and it's not like real wrestling. The wrestlers are
using their real names, right, and they're showing you how
the control room talks to the wrestleere like peeling the
curtain back totally totally, Like you know, Rhea Ripley, who's

(30:29):
like the big strong chick, she's looking at the camera.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
My name's Demmy Bennett. I play the role of Rhea Ripley.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
It shows how she gets hurt and tries to work
through it. And Triple H running the TV broadcast talking
into the referees ear and it's pretty wild. Triple H
actually runs the broadcast. He's in what's called the gorilla seat. Yeah,
he's calling the shots.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Really, we did a.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Wide camera shot here.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
You did a wide camera shot over here, zoom in
on Punk's eyes. It's pretty cool. I'm not gonna look okay,
so check that out. It'sout unreal. It's like a series.
If you're into wrestling or whether you're not, it's kind
of a cool behind the scenes. Look at how they
put those things on Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 12 (31:09):
Do you believe these characters are weirdos of three percent?

Speaker 13 (31:14):
Of three percent better than expected.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Three percent better than expected? That CNBC breaking the news. Sorry,
bad news for all the Trump haters here in America
listening right now that we have solid economics going on
in this country. We have a solid economy.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Has anybody checked on a duels he okay?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Is he gonna be all right?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
We need to have Mike hicks On debunk this myth
that the economy is doing well. I mean good economic news,
good okay? Under President Trump for six months, first six
or seven, going going very well. Apparently the tariffs didn't

(32:04):
put us into a deep depression like all the predictions.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Maybe it'll happen later, maybe it won't happen at all.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
All I know is that the second quarter GDP report
is out and it's up three percent. Two point three
percent was the estimate. Here is c NBC. Again, this
isn't Fox, this isn't Breitbart. C NBC just mocking the
crap out of Democrats like Elizabeth Warren after one good

(32:34):
report about the economy right after the other.

Speaker 14 (32:37):
The left and people that don't like the president and
don't want things to work, and you know, like in
the center and Elizabeth warn will come out and say,
inflation's out of control and the economy is this is
getting killed by what's happening by these tariffs, this three
percent with the market at new highs, and really we
haven't seen inflation, you know, go up. But none of

(32:58):
these things, none of these things have.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Happened, but they still talk like it's happening. It's amazing.

Speaker 13 (33:04):
Well, the important there's an important lesson there. Don't pick
a congressman to be your money manager.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
That's what I would say.

Speaker 13 (33:11):
But in the end, Congress has their own reasons to
point out certain things. And the Democrats, of course, as
you pointed out, really don't want to see the current
administration have some success. But there's no doubt that this
is some success. We're seeing more war's power, we're seeing
better equities, inflation, Inflation really hasn't changed much in the

(33:32):
last year or so.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
We were promised a recessionnledge from all these experts. You know,
I wonder if these are the same experts like that
woman who is the political expert before the election that
went to go by the Champagne and gave a big
lecture to the kid that's at the checkout aisle, Like
I wonder if these are the same type of experts
we're dealing with here, because all I know is that

(33:55):
with the reports that have been released, inflation lower, GDP higher,
and real wages up. I'll take that. That's a fresh
right there, I can get down with fresh.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Oh, this is Biden's economy. This is just this is
what's left over from the Joe Biden administration, finally coming
to fruition. Right, Well, the.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
First quarter of the GDP was down a little bit.
Since we've gotten rid of all Captain Harrisniffer, things have
taken a little turn.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Now will at last, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
I don't claim to be an expert on the market here, right,
That's why we go to guys like Bill Demery. But
so far, so good. It is what it is. The
numbers have been pretty solid, even though others have said, well,
we're anticipating the bottom dropping out. And this brings us
to the Federal Reserve. Donald Trump has been beating up

(34:50):
on the head of the Federal Reserve Jerome Powell for
a while, now wants him to lower the rates. Update
not gonna happen. Federal Reserve earlier today announced that it
will leave it's benchmark interest rate unchanged. Jerome Powell leaves
interest rates unchanged again at four point five zero percent,

(35:15):
despite the really good economic numbers that were released earlier
today yesterday and their real wages number.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Did you see him in Trump going through I don't
know if it was a Federal Reserve or some building
that was being renovated and spending billions and billions of dollars,
and Jerome Powell, this little guy in a huge hard hat,
looked like walter Mondale oke in his head out of

(35:45):
his hat.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, look, I mean the rates.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
We my wife and I took advantage of those low
rates at the beginning of COVID and did some stuff
to our house. And I get where the President's coming from.
I just think it's interesting. There's cases to be made
on both sides. I think for this, but I understand
where Trump was coming from. It's like, hey, let's do this,

(36:12):
Let's get these rates down a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Kick start this academy here, give people some faith and
some hope. You're going to see the market react in
such a positive way.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But at the same time, you want your money to
be worth something as well.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
And plus counterpoint, Jerome Powell doesn't like him. Jerome Powell
hates Donald Trump, so he's in no hurry, no rush
to do him any solids anytime soon. We've got an
update night. Tell me if this moved the needle for you.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Just in.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Former Vice President Kamala Harris has announced she will not
be running for the governor's seat in California. You don't
say now, I'm paraphrasing here, but nobody likes me is
the reason why. Again, those are my interpretations of her
reason worked her way up there in California.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Brown thinks, so she worked it pretty good, according.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
To Willie Brown, prosecutor Girl Senator.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Willie jokes right themselves, we're talking about Goony's characters.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
What are you thinking about?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Can I do another side note? Just real quick. Somebody
named tired Hoosier just tweeted at us. I could have
gone through the entire day without hearing Hicks his name.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
That guy is ridiculous on behalf of the ball State
community here, and I feel like I can speak on
behalf of us now.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
That guy sucks.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Like I know, he's been up there forever and he's
you know, fat, and I get all that, But what, man,
that guy's just I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
I wouldn't recognize if you walked through. Didn't what what
didn't we interview him during COVID or something like that
against our better joke.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
We were told, have this guy on, yeah, and he'll
talk about the economic ramifications of COVID, And we had
him on the show. This was early on and it
was nothing but fear porn and if you have the
Indy five hundred, everybody's going.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
To die and kids are dying, right.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
So at that point we decided we've kind of had
enough of this dude. And he doesn't even want to
be like an economic expert.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
He wants to be some sort of political hot take guy.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
He wants to get booked on the bad weekend shows
hosted by Dan Spieler. He wants to be a part
of some sort of panel that's on TV discussing politics.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
That's what he really wants.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
And the only people that have him on are like
the butt sniffers and Abdul and that's it.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
And if that's what they're into, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
But he called Abdul a bud sniff or he's not
a bud sniffer. Come on, man, that's our buddy. Abdul's
our friend.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
He's our friend.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
But how often do I criticize you and make fun
of you right to your face? I think friends can
do that to friends, right, It's part of being a
do every second of every day. Dudes do that to
other dudes. And Mike Kicks is a dude that does
not even want to be like an economic professor anymore.
He wants to be political flamethrower guy. The problem is

(39:14):
he's not any good and when you put him on television,
he looks like you've got like George Conway up there.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
So sorry, not gonna happen you, all right? Nudge? George Conway,
the ex husband of.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
What's her face?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Kelly and Conway. They're still together. They're still together, the
most dysfunctional couple ever. I think they're still together. I
could be wrong, uh real quick.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Before he had never heard anybody compared to George Conway.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
He looks like a heel.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
I mean like if you take your shoes and socks
off and you look at your heel, you know, Brian
Stilter is the thumb. Mike Kicks is the heel. Real quick,
this is the most attention. Mike Kicks has gotten his
name because he gets off on it, kind of like
Rob's liberal boyfriend Adam Wren, Like.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
He used to troll us all the time.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Right, but then we casually mentioned he was part of
that political group that maybe allegedly outed a black service
woman's sexual assault against her will.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Which he was running for office.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Now comes him. That got real quiet, real quick.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And we haven't heard from that fat dork in a
long time either, and he has gotten fat. Like I'm
still a little chubby, right, I've lost about fifty pounds.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
That dude found it, Adam Wren found the way that
I lost. This segment has gone off the rails. I think, Wow,
we're gonna have to We're gonna have to do what
I stand by everything I said. No, I'm not to say,
we're gonna have to revisit this at some point. Best

(40:53):
of is what I was thinking of him.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
And Ren's one of those dudes like if you call
him fat, his feelings get hurt, which is awesome for
a holes like me. Real quick before we hit a
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Speaker 3 (41:14):
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Speaker 10 (41:17):
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guy in the neighborhood with a windowless van and get in.
Who knows you might even have candy.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Back to scritch with Terry Stacy. Get up to look
at that glasses half full?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Notge do you have the ice cream man come down
your way at all?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Like? Like every once in a while, are you really, Like,
not on the regular, but every once in a while.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, it comes in our neighborhood sometimes and it is sketch.
It is It is scary, and I still find myself
giving my kids cash to run up to this guy
to give him ice cream.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
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Speaker 15 (41:58):
It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Is this anything rod you buy?

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Speaker 4 (42:30):
And again hat tip to anybody that got that weird
science reference. Yes talked about this earlier eight point eight
earthquake hit Russia yesterday tsunami warning evacuation for the coasts
of the Hawaiian Islands. I stayed up late last night
watching this stuff because I'm a weather nerd. When the
higher waves were expected to hit. There was a reporter

(42:53):
that was live in Waikiki and was surprised to find
out that people staying in the hire floors of the
hotels we're having tsunami parties.

Speaker 16 (43:04):
Oh it's kind of wild to see all these people here,
I can tell you. At the hotels there are lots
of people on their balconies checking out what is supposed
to have come.

Speaker 17 (43:15):
But yeah, everyone's just kind.

Speaker 16 (43:16):
Of anxiously waiting to see what's gonna come. And you
can see I think you can hear a lot of
people yelling in the background, lots of people front row
seats here to see to watch, anxiously awaiting me the
tsunami and uh, yeah, that's kind of it.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
It sounds like a Rick Flair convention back there. Whoo.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I would be crapping my pants if I were on
vacation in Hawaii and all of a sudden the tsunami
alarm went off. Whatever that sounds like. I look, there
were people walking. You've seen footage of They were walking
directly up to the water on boat ramps, even though
they'd been worn several times to evacuate the beaches. People

(44:06):
are stupid, yes, but I guess nobody died. It wasn't
as bad as they thought it was going to be.
And I think maybe they're desensitized a little bit in
Hawaii since they got that that emergency message on their
cell phones that incoming inbound nuclear missiles from North Korea or.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Right, you're on their way. That's I forgot about me.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
They might be a little desensitized the whole warning system there. Yeah,
the last time we had this, the nuclear missiles were
coming from North Korea, so maybe that's maybe that has
something to do with it.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I totally forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Imagine you're on your dream vacation show, maybe your honeymoon,
and your phone starts vibrating and shaking incoming missiles from
North Korea and it turns out to be like it
was just somebody hit the wrong button, right, a mistake.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Well, they do the in Florida though, Like they have
hurricane parties. I know friends that lived out there. Yeah,
I have friends.

Speaker 9 (45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
If it's not a you know, Cat five or something,
they'll board up the windows. They'll get a big, fully
stocked bar, and they're going to ride that thing out. Man,
is this anything? A pastor and his wife from Denver
were arrested for running a cryptocurrency scam where they solicited
three point four million dollars from people. They use the

(45:27):
money to do home renovations. Here is the pastor talking
about what they did with the money.

Speaker 15 (45:33):
The charges are that Caitlyn and I pocketed one point
three million dollars, and I just want to come out
and say that those charges are true. Out of that
one point three, half a million dollars went to the
irs and a few hundred thousand dollars went to a
homy model that the Lord told us to do.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
The Lord told me to do it.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
He had been praying, he'd been heavily praying over this
remodeling decision. And the Lord told him to scam his
congregation out of three and a half million dollars. Yeah, Like,
if you're God and this guy's praying to you, like,
could you see God say? Hey, look what I want
you to do? And I'm God here, Like what I

(46:13):
want you to do is I really want you to
use all the talents I've given you and bamboos who
your congregation and giving you millions of dollars so you
can do that bathroom reno renovation.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
You know, I don't think God would give that message.
I don't blame a pastor.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
I'm no Joel ostein over here, but I find it
hard to believe God. Nigel, by the way, this is
God because I always identify myself. I want you to
rip off as many people as you can fix your crapper.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
God out. I don't think that's how it works. God out.
But this brings us to great moments and pastor history.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
One of my favorites is the Missouri pastor who is
very upset at how cheap the folks are that go
to his church because they didn't buy him the watch
that he wanted for Christmas.

Speaker 18 (47:10):
See that's how I know you still pour Bro busted
and disgusted because of.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
How you've been honoring me. I'm not worth your McDonald's money.
I'm not worth your red lobster money. I ain't worth
your Saint John Nid. Y'all can't afford it. No how
I ain't worth.

Speaker 18 (47:24):
Y'all Louis Baton, I ain't worth your praduct.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I'm not worth your Gucci. You can buy a Movado
watch in Sam's Yes you can.

Speaker 18 (47:34):
Yes, and y'all know have for one last year here
it is the whole way in August, I still ain't
got it. Y'all ain't saying nothing. Let me kick down
the door and talk to my chief, sons and daughters. Geez,
I don't want to hear no more excuse about what
y'all can't afford. You can't afford it because you don't
see the value here. I'm over y'all. I'm over your
cheap expressions.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
You can buy a Burretto watching SAMs, Yes you can, but.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
That was amazing corn.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Pop on the YouTube chat Nigel, this is God. You
suck at Bible Trivia, Great Moments and past our History.
The Hammer and Nigel show the amount of American badasses.
We have in this studio right now is outstanding. And
I'm not even talking about us. I'm Jason Hammer, Big

(48:23):
Nige's here. Producer Allison falls in that category. She's driving
the boat here. But we've got a friend of the show,
Brian Alvi joining us. How are you doing, guys, man,
We're great and I'm gonna let you introduce the guest
that you brought in.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well, when we talked about the topic.

Speaker 19 (48:40):
Of you know, the Army recruiting numbers and the military
and general is soaring up, I thought my buddy James
Copp would be so value added to this show. He
and I have been working together on a little project.
I'll let him speak to that. But James had this
unbelievable career.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
In the United States Army that just and I'll let
you speak to that.

Speaker 19 (48:59):
But we were talking about Beret Special Forces Decorated combat veteran,
die Is, Special Forces Dive School commandant and West.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well, what's your background for people that may just be
tuning in for the first time.

Speaker 19 (49:13):
I was a professional lawn dart for the United States Army.
You know, I fell out brains and landed and did
you know stupid stuff almost said the sport. I didn't
do it. I'm getting good at this. Uh you know, uh,
my career. I'm proud of my career, I really am.
But it just pales to compare to what this man
put in. It's it's amazing. I mean, you know, commandant

(49:35):
of the Special Forces Dive School, Key West and one
of the things he did because he did he just
loves his state and he loves this area. His last
I was, like man, the toughest thing he did in
his military career. He came back for a couple of
years and was the battalion commander for Army recruiting for
this whole area. So I thought, who better to talk
to this topic than James. But uh and then, like

(49:57):
I said, him and I do a lot. We'd like
our bourbon. We brought you some treach to class.

Speaker 15 (50:00):
James.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Well, look at that. We have to raise up a
glass here in just a moment.

Speaker 19 (50:04):
Bottle of well or twelve, so you know, wow, show
me up, James.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Let's dive into it here.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
We had a report a couple of weeks back, may
have even been about a month or so ago, that
recruiting was up. It is since Donald Trump became the
president and Pete Hegsath has been installed as the Secretary
of Defense.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Why is that.

Speaker 17 (50:24):
I think there's a couple of reasons. I mean, obviously
the main one. People want to serve their country. They
want to be proud of it. It's it's a lot
easier to be proud of your country when you've got
a guy like Donald Trump, you know, as our president,
you don't have the woke agenda that we had for
the years. You know that I was unfortunately dealing with it.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Is that a big part of it?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I mean, did you have to read the book on
white Rage?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
So I'll say this. You know you were in the Pentagon.

Speaker 17 (50:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'd spent two years there was it was
my penance for doing time down in Key West. But
I'll say this that you don't join the army because
of a woke agenda. You join the army to serve
your country. You join the army because you want to
go out and make a difference, you know, not only
to your community, but to the country rit large. So

(51:12):
you know, when when you're looking at the the advertisements
that the Biden administration put out, those are not things
that bring young people in to join the Army, the
advertisements that we've got now, you know the the you know,
for me, it was I want to do more before
nine am than most people do all day. Like that
was my that was my thing. Wow, you know, be
all you can be. You still remember that, you still

(51:35):
to this day. You know, those are the kind of
things that you go, Okay, that's why I want to
I want to be part of something better than myself.
And you do that in the United States Army. You know,
when you when you look at the sad state that
the army was, you know, four years under Obiden, under Biden,
you're right, exactly right, said, yeah, let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
The last roar was definitely Obiden.

Speaker 17 (51:57):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know under Obama the same thing.
You know, we as the military, our job is to
close with and destroy the nation's enemies. It's not it's
not climate change, it's not woke agenda. It is to train, equip,
move out, close with the destroy nation's enemies. Bottom line.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
That's it.

Speaker 17 (52:16):
When you get away from that, then you're surprised that
people don't want to join. I'm sorry for me.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
As a parent, like neither one of my children are
in the service, but had they been somebody that wanted
to do that, I would have such concern about who
their commander in chief would have been. Joe Biden apecially
after that botched Afghan withdrawal.

Speaker 19 (52:36):
Remember, my boys were in the military under him as
their commander in chief, and you know that didn't give
me the warmest of fuzzies in my gut, right, you know.
And when they both decided that their time was up
and they got out.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Because it seemed like he was incompetent it right, like
we could all disagree on the things, that's fine, yes,
but when you saw what happened with that botched Afghan withdrawal,
to me, that was you're not a serious person.

Speaker 17 (52:59):
So to the point on that, you know, I had
a very good friend that I deployed with, you know,
and we we stayed closest to friends his job. After
he and I were deployed together, he went into plans.
They spent countless hours coming up with an Afghan withdrawal plan.
I mean, he was you know, at Fort Brag thank
god his name for Brag again, but he was at
Fort Brag. They did they had the plan. It wasn't like, oh,

(53:22):
you know, we didn't know what we were going to do.
It just came on too quick. No, it was a
deliberate and we're not doing this. They scrapped the plan.
You know, let's let's move to an area where there's
people all around us instead of staying out at an
airfield but there's nothing around. You know what, Nobody, you know,
from a military perspective, thought that that was a great idea.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
But well, yeah, yeah, what I was saying, giving up
the airpires to that the whole thing was a disaster.
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 17 (53:55):
And when you look at things like that and then
you go, well, why are our recruiting numbers, I'm sorry,
but I can look right there and say, that's the reason.
You know, young people are not stupid. They look at
at current events, they see what's going on in the world,
and they go, I don't want to serve under a
commander in chief. That's like that, I would say. You know,
since since we have you know, Donald Trump back in

(54:17):
office and the army has made its mission early for
the first time and god knows how long. So it's
it's awesome to see that. You know, there there are
other things that are concerns, obviously, you know, education and
things like that that the Army is still having to
overcome to get those numbers. And they have, they've they've
made some changes to how we bring folks in. You know,

(54:39):
the United States is overweight. The United States kids are
coming out of school. They don't know, you know, they
can't pass basic tests.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Did they lower standards for a little while.

Speaker 17 (54:47):
So here's what they've done, you know, with regards to weight. Yes, okay,
So so you say, okay, here's our standard for weight. Yes, okay.
Well what the army has done is gone, we don't
have enough people. The cool is not large enough to
draw from. So what we're going to do is we're
going to say, okay, if you if you're over a bit,
we're going to send you down and uh and have

(55:10):
you get you on good nutrition, have you work out,
you know, have you walk?

Speaker 3 (55:14):
You know what old drill Sartans used to call that?

Speaker 17 (55:16):
Right, like, yeah, I'll let you say that.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Also, make sure we treat this like call a roulette.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Every time I'm here curious now, yeah what you called it?
We we we we called it fat boy camp.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, that's something like that. It's still called that. So
that's one then, But you send them with fat boy
camp and said they are.

Speaker 17 (55:39):
Going to work out, They're going to be you know,
most of these kids have been eating potato chips for
the last you know, eighteen years.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
But to serve their country, they want to be lifted.
Was their xbox control.

Speaker 17 (55:48):
Exactly, you know, the coke can, right, So so they've
done that.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Now.

Speaker 17 (55:52):
Additionally, you know I talked about schools, right, So schools.
Schools are a big thing. The ASVAB you know, for
those that don't know, uh, it's basically and I IQ test.
It's the entrance exam to get in the military. It
is basically an IQ test, but you have to understand
you know, basic math to be able to be tested
on it. If you don't know that, how can I
test you? You don't know the basics. And some of

(56:12):
these kids are coming out of school with you know,
they just can't simply do the basic problem. So how
can I test your your intelligence? Well that's the other
thing that they've done. They said, okay, well you're close enough,
let's take you in, let's train you, Let's let's give
you some more time so that you understand how this
test works. And we're going to teach you something. Now,
the success rates for those seem to be pretty good.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
You know.

Speaker 17 (56:34):
That's that's one of the positives is yes, you know
Americans are overweight. Yes, our schools a lot of times
are failing kids. But the kids aren't stupid, they're just
overweight and they're undertrained. So if we can do that,
you know, we can get them in and also make
our mission.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
We've got our pal Bryant Alvim studio, Lieutenant Colonel James
cop here as well. I got a few minutes left here, James,
you mentioned earlier you've worked in the Pentagon for a
couple of years.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Question.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
I have anybody associated with Donald Trump feels like they've
got a target on their back, right because he's so
dynamic one way or the other. Pete Hegseith is kind
of tied at the hip with Donald Trump. There are
some still there still are some Biden holdovers at the
Pentagon right now. Should Pete Hexeth be concerned about that?

Speaker 17 (57:22):
I'll say that that in the army, you know, overall,
there is there is still a current of the the
the woke you know, going on. So I have a
I have a close friend that just graduated from the
War College and one of the things that he told
me that absolutely floored me is the number of people
and these are lieutenant colonels and colonels, uh, you know

(57:43):
that that will be brigade commanders. They will be the
pool that that you pull general officers from. And the
large number of those folks that were you know, went
apoplectic when USAID got shut down, that that are just.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Like this is the end of the world.

Speaker 17 (57:57):
Well, that speaks volumes in itself, absolutely absolutely, And I
was floored by him telling me that. I, you know,
Brian and I you know, we we worked with meat eaters.
You know, that's that's pretty much where we had had served.
And you know, you don't see an awful lot of that,
but the army is huge and there are people, you know,
with with differing perspectives all over. Now some of those

(58:19):
people do rise to the top, and some of those people,
unfortunately have that core belief and and really I think
it's it's a long term, you know issue. When I
was in, you know, so I'm retired. When I was in,
I was a political and we should be as as
the military. You know, you don't take a side of

(58:41):
a president. You don't take us a you swear an
oath to the to support and defend the Constitution of
the United States against all enemies for an in domestic
The bottom line is there are a lot of people
that are currently serving that are unhappy with the current administration.
I'm concerned about that, just based off what my friend said.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
So, James, what's a meat eater? I worked with a
beer drink.

Speaker 19 (59:00):
It's not a not a grassy Yeah, yeah, definitely, we're.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Meteor is not grass. That makes sense.

Speaker 17 (59:07):
That puts it into continent. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, It's
the simplest answer is always the best.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
So, yeah, James, over here, you brought some beverages here
along with Bell Brian.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Uh, you got a pretty big announcement you want to
make you pack and roll. Man, let's go, let's do it.

Speaker 17 (59:21):
Let's do it.

Speaker 11 (59:22):
So.

Speaker 17 (59:22):
Uh So I am running for State Senate District forty one.
That's uh, you know, southeastern Johnson County. Uh in Bartholomew County.
Uh So, you know, I appreciate this.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Johnson County man Hammer and Nigel Country. We went down
to the fair at Johnson County fair Man and it
was awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Your adopted sons to Johnson County.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
If you're from Beach Grove, like I feel like you
get invited to the cookouts there you go at Johnson County.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Well, we appreciate, lion, Do I still get in. You're good,
you put in the work. You remember Jeff boarding with
a PUW mustache. You can come out. I'm trying way Okay, Well, well.

Speaker 17 (59:58):
I appreciate it. Vote for dot com if you want
to check us out, and we're on Facebook and everything else.
So definitely appreciate you guys. Appreciate the opportunity to talk
about the army. It's something that I'm passionate about and
to that. So let's enjoy some weller gentlemen, Thank you guys, Thank.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
You guys for your service. God bless and thank you
for what you guys do every day on this their.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
That's good, so good when it touches the lips.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
I again, we're one more shot away from going streaking
here in downtown indian Out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
All right, I'll pour uh what couldn't make question?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Do you think this could trickle down to IMPD and
the recruiting problems that the local beliefs are having?

Speaker 17 (01:00:42):
So I heard the other day and I somebody may
fact check me on this I heard the other day
that the the numbers I mean are pathetically low for IMPD,
something like six folks went through the academy. And I
don't know if that number is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
It was higher than that. I think this this latest class, whatever.

Speaker 17 (01:00:59):
It was, it was, it was insanely low.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
You know.

Speaker 17 (01:01:03):
I think it gets back to the same thing that
I was talking about when you as a community, as
a country, you know, as as a group of people,
don't support those who are going to support you. These
are the problems that you have when you have things
like you know, a police officer is putting an incredibly different,
difficult situation almost every day, right and you expect them

(01:01:24):
to be perfect percent of the time, no matter what,
you expect them to be perfect, and most of the
time they are. If you're going after those folks, you know,
when they make an honest mistake, you're going to see
these these kind of parts.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
It's about a leadership. It's not because people don't law enforcement.
They don't believe in Joe hawks At or Ryan Mere.

Speaker 19 (01:01:44):
Everything of all my all my law enforcement buddies, Why
would anybody want to be a cop?

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Right now?

Speaker 19 (01:01:50):
You guys, you guys do the hardest job. You do
the hardest job, and you have people villify for it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
It's beyond me. It's just gross. Our community needs to.

Speaker 19 (01:01:59):
Pull its head out of what we call a paratroopers
called fourth port of contact. You can figure out where
that's at and and recognize that these people just carry
the water for our community.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
They really do.

Speaker 19 (01:02:10):
They and and and everybody, like James was just saying,
everybody sees it. Why would you want to be a
cop right now in Indianapolis?

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
Why?

Speaker 19 (01:02:18):
Well, leadership can dramatically affect that it has in a
negative way, and if they find better leadership, it can
do it in a positive way.

Speaker 17 (01:02:26):
I mean the army recruiting. You're seeing it in the army.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
A buddy of mine sent me a text.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
The studio right now looks like a WWE house show
or like the Tag Team Champions. We're getting ready to
beat up as that are already.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Is coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
What you going to do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Lieutenant Colonel James Cop, US Army Special Forces retired, You
guys are awesome. You guys are bad as you. Thank
you for your service and we appreciate you. Jobing time,
it's the Hammer and Nigel show, all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Right, Hammer, tell me about Fartacus Cory Booker.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Now, hold on, hold on on, As you would say,
there's always people listening. For the very first time, Cory
Booker is called Fartacus because when he ran for presidents
in a very bad campaign back in twenty twenty, he
basically called himself Spartacus. But his campaign was so bad

(01:03:27):
we dubbed him Fartacus.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Democrat from New Jersey kind of blowing up at fellow Democrats.
Dem On dem violence, what exactly happened here?

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
So there's a bill that would provide states with some
funding for some things, but it contains parts that they
might not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Like funding, including police funding.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Correct, And that's a big part of what Fara Kisses
fired up about Corey Booker. Now you've got senators like
Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Mosto of Nevada who are like, listen,
this bill that's got the funding in it. We don't
like all the stuff that's in it, but we're going
to vote to pass it because it provides our states

(01:04:20):
with some funds that we need. Well, Corey Booker, who's
totally running for president in twenty twenty eight, let's not
get it twisted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
He's been grand standing for a while now, whether it's
the marathon speeches at Capitol Hill or the grand standing
that we're about to play.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
He's totally trying to get his name out there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
He's ticked off at Mosto and Klobachar because they're going
to vote to pass this bill through because it would
benefit their states.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Fartacus feels like that's caving to Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
This, to me is a problem with Democrats in America
right now. We're willing to be complicit to Donald Trump.
We are standing at a moment where our president is
eviscerating the constitution of the United States of America, and
we're willing to go along with that today. No, no,
not on my watch. The Democratic Party needs a wake
up call. I see law firms bending a knee to

(01:05:19):
this president, not caring about the larger principles that those
free speech rights that you could take on any client.
Why are you bending the knee. I see universities there
should be bastions of free speech bending at the knee
to this president. I see businesses taking late night talk
show hosts off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
The air because they dare to gee president.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I see people who want mergers suddenly think that they
have to pay tribute to this president, and what are
the very people here elected to defend the constitution of
the United States, saying, oh, well, today, let's look the
other way and pass some resources. That won't go to Connecticut,
it won't go to Illinois, it won't go to New York.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
They will go to the states.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
He likes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
That is complicity with an authoritarian leader who is trashing
our constitution. It's time for Democrats have a backbone. It's
time for us to fight, It's time for us to
draw lines.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
And he was yelling at at Klobachar and this whatever
this matter at mosta yeah, talking about universities that embraced
and capitulated to pro Hamas protesters.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Harassing Jewish students, like I'm all for the freedom of speech, right,
don't get it twisted.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
But freedom of speech.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Means you don't get to block a classroom that a
Jewish student wants to go into.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
And that's what he was talking about. And then he
talked about Colbert, what a lame thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
If Colbert was pulling ratings like the hammer Nigel Show
pulls and bringing in revenue like we have compared to
how much it cost to go into it, they would
be giving him an extension, right, but instead it's a
two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Person stash that's losing forty million bucks. What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Klobachar and the Democrats were like shepherding through a series
of bills related to police funding. But Booker never showed
up during the sessions when these bills were being put together,
and apparently he didn't like it, right, and that's what

(01:07:37):
this is all about. So he's he's yelling at Amy Klobachar.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Who, keep in mind, is one of the great hot
heads in the Senate. Amy Klobachar has been known to
be a hot head.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
I don't know much about mosto of Nevada, but Amy
Klobachar was accused of throwing stuff at staff members in
the past.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I think she's like, what was the thing with the home,
and like, oh, you didn't give me a fork for
my selling, so I'll just get a comb from my
purse and.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
Then through the comb at a staff member. It's a
true story, right, But here she is responding to Corey Booker,
and then Corey Booker responding to Amy Globichak.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
Okay, I completely agree with Senator Booker about what this
administration is doing. But you can't just pick out a
few bills that came out of a committee and say
I'm going to stop those and then allow for other
bills that fund other parts of your budget in your state.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
I was just called out by name, and I want
to respond. I don't need somebody implying in any way
that this is not vital to me and my state,
that we have resources for our police officers. But what
I am tired of is when the President of the
United States of America violates the constitution. Trashes are norms

(01:08:59):
and traditions, and what does a Democratic party do comply
allow him beg for scraps? No, I demand justice.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
In my mind, I feel like Jim Banks, who's the
head of this committee that was having this big media
I'm watchings. He was like Lou Brown in Major League.
Shut up Dorn, like when Don was yelling at Harris
and Harris was yelling at Dorn, Shut up Dorn.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
That was Jim Banks.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Uh. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
The other senator that's involved in this, Catherine Cortes Mosto
from Nevada. She just simply put out a statement, this
was too politico quote. Standing up to Trump isn't about
long speeches. A little shot at Fartacus.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
It's about winning and then legislating and getting stuff done
for the people of your state and the American people.
So again, this bill, it might not have had everything
in it that they like, but it helped the states
of Amy Klobuchar, Minnesota, it helped the states of Mosto,
of Nevada. But Spartacus, Fartacus, who's totally running for president,

(01:10:11):
wanted to make a name for himself, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
He tried to put an amendment in there which was
a poison pill, and it eventually got pulled and everything
turned out fine. But this was, really, like you said,
he's going to put that in a promo reel for
twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
He's going to run for president and he's going to
say I stood up to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Democrats who weren't strong enough to fight back against Trump,
and he's going to play highlights of that speech, even
though most of it was crap, total crap, real quick
before we hit a break here. Funeral for Ozzy Osbourne
was earlier today. Nige, oh really, and man, listen, I
wasn't the biggest Ozzie fan in the world, right, It

(01:10:56):
wasn't my genre of music, per se. I grew up
as a Coast rap kid, an eighties hairband kid. But man,
he's on the mount rushmore of rock gods. Ozzy Osbourne.
His funeral was today. It tugged at my heart when
I saw Sharon Osbourne.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
I didn't see it. She was crying.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
She had some piece of memorabilia in her hand. I
can't remember what it was.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Picture.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
No, it was like an umbrella or something. I can't
remember what it was. Somebody can correct me. But she
was crying into it and she's holding it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
She was a mess. The kids had to kind of
hold her up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Great relationship with their dad, and you saw that in
the Osbourne's the reality show on MTV.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Man, it just broke my heart because even though their
marriage had its ups and downs, right, I think, like
a lot of people's, you could tell after all the
highs and lows, Sharon loved that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
She did.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
And when the funeral was taken place today and she
was breaking down and she's sobbing and she's bawling, and
it's her kids that have to hold her up because
she's unconsolable. Man, that was pretty tough to watch. That
was pretty tough to watch. So go on Twitter, go
on YouTube. I'm sure you can find the video that

(01:12:18):
I'm talking about here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Are you really?

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
Are things going to be okay? Are you okay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I'm fine.

Speaker 13 (01:12:31):
I'm pretty freaking far from okay.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Are you okay?

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
With this?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
On the Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Hammer, Scott's Staff and Creed covered youtubes Where the Streets
Have No Name?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I love the story of Scott's staff.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
He was in bed shape, alcoholic, very mentally ill, and
he has recovered and the Creed got back together and
have been on a humongous just summer tour that have
been very successful. So this was during a show in Memphis.

(01:13:10):
Here's part of the cover and I want to get
your approval here or non approval of their cover of
Where the Streets Have No Name?

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
From you two? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
This is from a fan camp.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
A well, let it go until you get to the
high part. Let it keep going here just a minute.

Speaker 12 (01:13:56):
No, no, If you're in a Cream concert, do you
want to hear Creed songs or do you want to
hear YouTube covers?

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
I want to hear Creed songs. Please stop that. Nige
was way more into that than I was. I was
ready to have Alison stop that clip thirty seconds ago,
and Nige was like, no, no, let the high part come.
So I let the high part come, and it still sucks. No,
not okay with this. I'm not the biggest Utwo fan
in the world. Bono wears me out with his environmental

(01:14:37):
crap and all of his stuff. I've never been a
big YouTube guy. Like, if I'm listing out my favorite
bands or artist of the eighties, I don't know if
You two makes my top twenty No.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
I saw You two in twenty twelve, right before I
was about to have our first child. Lindsey was pregnant
Saint Louis, and it was like, like when they.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Did, I still haven't found what I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I was like in tears, don't know why, just was
happy and like I was about to have my first
kid and You two's fine to Creed covering You two,
I don't know about that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Like I like a good cover song. I like it
when famous bands do covers of others. I think it's
fun sometime. But if you're going to do a cover,
make it fun. Don't do a U two song that's
gonna make everybody want to drown themselves at a river.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Pamela Anderson and Liam Neese and claim they're just friends,
but a source says they have a budding romance. They
recently interviewed each other for People magazine. They're both starring
in the New Naked Gun remake or sequel or whatever.

(01:15:55):
H Pamela Anderson. Here they are talking about their romance.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
What was your first impression of me when we met?

Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
I thought she is so easy on the eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I knew we had a can of chemistry for very
very early on.

Speaker 14 (01:16:09):
Yeah, we definitely had a chemistry right away, and I
was just curious where it was going to take us
in the film.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
So it was really a nice start. But your friend
for life.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Life?

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Oh friend like it or not?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Friend zone? Liam is seventy three, pam is fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Is this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Okay with you at all?

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Because this is totally for the movie. I don't buy
for a minute this is legit. I think this is
just them being told by Seth McFarlane. Hey, act like
you're in a relationship, and we'll get some extra press
out of this because, oh, by the way, we're just
finding out these two might be an item. The same
weekend the movie opens up. What a coincidence. Wow, what

(01:16:59):
are the chances of Look, the movie itself looks like
it might be a fun remake. Trailer looks funny. You know,
I'll probably watch it at some point. I don't know
if I'm going to go to the theater for it.
Takes a lot to get me to the theater these days.
But no, this is all marketing. This is them acting
like they're together because people like us will talk about

(01:17:22):
it on the radio entertainment tonight, We'll talk about it.
All the entertainment blogs will talk about it, and they
get added value to promote the opening weekend of The
Naked Gun.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I'm not falling for it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Are you okay with this? How fast could you eat
a one pound head of iceberg lettuce? The University of Minnesota.
University of Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Has a lettuce club boy save some chicks for the
rest of us guys, and an annual speed eating contest
Go ahead.

Speaker 20 (01:17:57):
Each lettuce is formally weighed before the competitions. Then participants
must place their right hand on their lettuce and recite
the pledge. Then they start showing down. To show you
finish the entire head, you have to stand up raiate
system and prove your mouth is empty. The reigning champion,
Nathan Thomas, crowned eep in his head.

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
Let us go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
That's more than hear of the record is two minutes
and thirty five seconds. Just to be clear, are you
okay with the lettuce eating contest at the University of Minnesota?

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Yes, I'm okay with this. Why not?

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Right, there are all types of crazy get us Book
of World Records things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Right, We've got.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
The world record for the most balloons popped in sixty seconds,
the world record for the most ridiculous things. So why
not have a lettuce club at the University of Minnesota. Like,
let us enthusiasts, you finally found somebody to communicate with.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
I don't know how many there.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Are, yeah, but even if it's just a small group,
a lot of lonely, let us enthusiasts finally found each other.
Like I feel like if you're somebody that's in the
lettuce club, like, that's who you have to marry, right,
that's the person for you. You've got a common interest

(01:19:17):
in Let us to the point to where you've gone
out of your way, you've taken time, you've parked, you've
signed waivers to join a club to talk about how
much you love let us. I feel like if you
find somebody that loves let us like that, you do
everything in your power and you put a ring on it.
So yes, amen, I am one hundred percent okay with Sammer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
In Nigel Show, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right
over there with the married special guest on the Hotline.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Signal. He's the
host of the Tony Kennett Cast right after our program
seven to eight here at ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
And every once in a while, Nige.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
If he runs out of time on his show, he
will go to social media for a segment called Bonus Tis,
which I think is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Tony Kennant joins us, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
All your fault. It's all your fault and the WIBC audience.
But yeah, we do, thank you very much WIBC audience
for the bonus Tonis name for extra show content at
thank you at.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
The Toonis is where they can find you. That's why
we call you the Tonis.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
That's right, That's right, gentlemen. Isn't it a fantastic time
not to be Corey Booker?

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
You know this may come as a shock to a
lot of people, but Corey Booker was seen yelling in Washington,
d C. Yeah, he was raising his voice, but this time, Tony,
it was at his fellow colleagues.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
Which is incredible because I think if all of the
Democrat senators that you want to yell at Amy Klobashar,
who's known for beating her staff with binders, may not
be the one you want to pick a fight with.
And they're yelling over police funding and he starts, I
guess pantomiming. He starts like standing up, and he's like,
I am standing and then he s it's down, I
am sitting, and poor Jim Banks, are senator from Indiana

(01:21:03):
who's presiding over the hearing, just looks like a cross
between Jim Halpert in the office and a man watching
two toddlers throw up on each other. Incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Again, what's the context of this fight now?

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
So it was about changing amendments on police funding and
Corey Booker decided now is the time to go to
war with the rest of my party and be spartacus.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Because he's totally running for president, right, This isn't anything new.
He tried to do this a couple of weeks ago
when the big beautiful bill was out there and he tried.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
To do the full what was it, twenty four twenty
five hour filibuster.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
Yeah, yelling for nothing so that everyone could be proud of.
I guess his lack of need to poop in a
single day. Again, I wish I was joking the man
like preped hydration levels. And then he was yelling yesterday
at some senator from Nevada that nobody cares about, and
then yelling at Amy Klobatara and a very dangerous move.

(01:22:01):
And they're just yelling over when amendments are added so
that Corey Booker can get his fifteen minutes on HIMSNBC
about the like of our democracy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
In my mind, Amy Klobuchar goes over there like the
old woman and throw mama from the train and hits
him with a frying pan.

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
I see more than Corey Booker goes out to the
little unicycle, he calls a car, He opens the door
and finds a decapitated horse head in the passenger seat.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
I mean, this is all stuffed that Corey Booker is
gonna put on some sort of campaign commercial though, right,
I stood up to my own party. We're gonna circle
the wagons Fartacus twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
I just want to know when play School finally endorses
him as the next model for mister potato Head in
his angry eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
So we got this new contender for twenty twenty eight.
Looks like it might be Corey Booker. They're putting Pete
Buddha Judge out there and awful lot too, aren't they.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Again, this man is the lowest consistent we polling candidate
in communities that, let's just say, are a little more traditional.
I'm sorry. I know that you like to think that
this progressive Caucus it's all in support of everyone and
hits the wonderful. But if you think that some old
gal who has not changed her entire life in fifty

(01:23:19):
years is going to strut out because some white Karen
told her to go vote for Pete, it ain't happening.
But he's going to give it his best shot.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
And when you look at some of the other younger Democrats, right,
because the whole thing is they want to talk about
getting younger, the one guy I think that has it
all to offer for them, Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania they
got a little problem because they've picked team hamas, they've
picked team Gaza. And last time I checked, Shapiro.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Was a Jewish man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
So unless he renounces his faith or the Democrat Party
comes out and says we're sorry, I don't know if
it can be him either.

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
Yeah, Shapiro is also like not totally against this three
letter word called oil. It is a little bit scary
for the Democrats. He's not totally against it. And so
that leaves to Wes Moore of Maryland. Well, he's busy
clamoring about how awful it is to be a black
man in America. Again, the governor of Maryland is freaking

(01:24:16):
out about how awful it is to be a black man.
I don't know about you, guys. I'm not the governor
of Maryland, are you guys the governor of Maryland.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
I'm not the government.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
I am not the governor of Maryland, thank god, because
Baltimore sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
And lastly, since we're kind of on this twenty twenty
eight checking the box segment here, don't laugh, but AOC
she's a fundraising machine, Tony. She's got the name recognition.
And where are we at with AOC?

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
It is no laughing matter. I mean it. AOC will
be the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty eight unless there
is someone that comes out of the gates. I've said
it before, unless there is some dark horse Canada from
Illinois whose name is Larack Obama, it's the field, then
it has to be a It is. She's the only
person who can voice and I'm not talking Jasmine Crockett
change in accents. She's the only person who actually knows

(01:25:07):
what the party has and that makes her threat. The
entire pre election will be all about the economy and
how bad Bill Bears are, mark my words, scary.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Chatting with Tony Kennett, host of The Tony Kennett Cast,
I know Corey Booker is upset at his party, but
maybe he's got a point here, because even CNN is
talking about how bad the Democrats are pulling and a
number of key areas from economic issues to foreign policy.
When Harry Enton has to go up there and talk

(01:25:38):
about how you know the Democrats are having their ass
handed to him and polling, and you get to look
at the face of the CNN host who looks like
he just smelled a John Brennan eggfarts it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
And I gotta say, Harry Entton is truly next to
Scott Jennings. It's just one of the best parts of
that network. In fact, it is they're the only good
parts of that network. But that all said and aside,
I do enjoy watching the Democrats consistently come to the
table and say, okay, guys, that thing we just tried
it wasn't working. What do we do And someone from
the back of the room is like, double down and
do it harder. And they are like, yeah, that clearly

(01:26:16):
we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Let's
do it again.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
And it's not like the bar is incredibly high here.
You're looking at this Republican Party to where Okay, Donald
Trump is the rock star, He's the Michael Jordan on
the Chicago Bulls team. But it's not the Chicago Bulls team.
It's Michael Jordan and a bunch of dudes who are
like Steve Kerr. This Republican Party is not that great.

(01:26:39):
It's totally beatable. But thank god for them. The Democrats
are until further notice, doing Democrat things well.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
I would say jd Vance just well and he's very
strong too, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
But also so is Rubio. There are a lot of
people in the Trump cabinet and in the Republican House
and in the Senate. May I say there are some
really good rising stars here. That the window that I've
paid this case on my show, there was a window
the Democrats had to destroy the momentum of the Republican Party,
to destroy the momentum of Trump. They took that window.
They threw a hammer through it, said screw it, and

(01:27:11):
they went home and had a beer and forgot all
about it. And now it's too late. It is too late,
and I don't see him bouncing back, at least for
the midterms. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
The people that Donald Trump has surrounded himself in his
second term vastly different. Can you compare and contrast real quick?
It's just off the top of your head. The people
that Trump has brought into his inner circle this time
around much better than last time, right for.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Yeah, a lot of Democrats.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Yeah, last time he had two kinds of people around him.
Number One, he had kind of old establishments, he don't
touch anything kind of people. And then he had people
like Marjorie Taylor Green last time, who like lick their
own elbows and sound like a jack in the box
wound one too many times. This time he's got like
competent people. And it's really freaking weird because Marco Rubio
will go up on against Margaret Brennan on CBS Slackham,

(01:27:58):
ask him a question and he'll pimps so hard you'll
think it's a Hollywood case. It's incredible. I mean, that's
I gotta say. I'm kind of liking the competence. You're right.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
And when I say this Republican Party as a whole,
there are some good parts of it. Some of them
are former Democrats that were told your services are no
longer needed over here. But my concern is that once
the orange guy's gone, even if it is JD. Vans
or even if it is Marco Rubio, are they going
to be able to have the testicular, you know what,

(01:28:29):
to get across their agenda?

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Damn the torpedoes. Do they have that ability?

Speaker 5 (01:28:34):
Do Vance and Vice President Rubio have the ability to
clock AOC in the chin and then do probably even
more work.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
They have gotten a big, beautiful bill passed through because
I think Trump had a big part of that. Basically,
damn near threatening to primary people. Do Rubio and JD.
Vance have the ability to pull that off?

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
See? I don't think it was the primary threats that
got the big beautiful bill through. I thought it was
actually saying, look, if you want to do anything at
all or essentially end up getting recalled not through a
primary but through a general election standpoint, then yeah, go ahead.
And for that I think that Vance and Rubio are
going to be just fine. What the best thing I
think is that after Trump is gone, and again not

(01:29:13):
something I'm looking forward to, but after Trump is gone,
the people like Marjorie Taylor Green carry Lake the elbow liquors,
I don't think they're going to have anything to cling
to because Vance doesn't need groupies. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
I've heard the term elbow liquor before, and it's here.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
I don't know if you've seen our social media today,
but we've nominated Nigel to replace Sidney Sweeney as the
American Eagle new model to eliminate some of the controversy Tony,
I swear to.

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
God, if you two drag him out and a jean
jacket with no shirt, I'm quitting.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Just go look on social media. It's already there.

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
Do yourself right now, where do I buy the calendar?

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Why is the a thing?

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
Well, the short answer is ugly leaps be jealous. I
mean ugly gals who are very sad but have made
the entire last twenty years about how everyone needs to
be proud of them for being fat and ugly. Are
very upset that American advertising is like, you know what,
people don't really want to buy the doves, the odorant
that like shows the beached whale moaning in the sunlight,

(01:30:26):
or on the other part, the Dylan mulvaney, the dude
with a dingong in a skirt telling people, Oh, I
don't even know what march madness is anyway, drink above
light Like people don't like that. I know this is
going to strive you. Big boobs and fast cars, they
do well on the market. People tend to like those. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
We had a big rant yesterday. I kind of melt
it down.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
We are back as a country because we are defending
big boo batties putting on a pair of jeans. And
that's the America that I would die for. Tony Kennett again,
the theme of.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
This entire country is Bert as the bandit pulling into
a gas station going well hot, damn. That is the
entire country. That's what it should be.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
But it's really it's a nuanced argument here because now
they're starting to mention eugenis.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
And bringing nuance to a Sydney Sweeney conversation. You hear
the tammer.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
I mean, these morons are bringing eugenics into the conversation
and you just can't argue with people like that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
I've said it before. The Left nos two events in
world war history. Number one is World War two. The
second event is when they want to compare something to
being worse than nine to eleven. That's it. That's all
they have. So of course if there's something bad, clearly
it's the Nazis saying she has good genes. Guys. I
taught biology in a couple of different Indiana middle and

(01:31:46):
high schools. Eugenics is not teaching people hereditary traits, Oh
my god, and a pun on the word gene.

Speaker 6 (01:31:54):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
But we people this pissed off when Marky Mark was
in his under pants back in the day, Like were
people this pissed off when Brooks Shields was putting on
a pair of jeans and hell, I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Don't even think she was eighteen at the time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
Nope, No, people didn't care. And the reason that people
didn't care is because sex cells. I mean, what do
you really need me to get out the grade school
book and show you tips of advertising number one, bold
colors number two boob. I mean, yeah, oh, it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
What are you working on tonight for the show.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
We have got a ton of momentum like heading down
through this week, so we are finally going to tackle
the one thing everyone has been wanting to see, and
that is grown liberal men being tackled by police.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Oh I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
I like that. A great depsis coming back, baby, And.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
If you run out of time, maybe some bonus tonas tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
Yeah, split my wrist.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
He's an American treasure.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
That is Tony Kennett's winner of the twenty twenty four
JD Vance Lookalike contest.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Have a great show tonight, my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:32:58):
Thanks guys, may be blessed by fast cars and move.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.
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