Episode #2000!! Hammer and Nigel Full Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
My name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over there, I.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Am being told ladies and gentlemen, hamorrhoids and Nigerians that
this is our two thousandth radio show.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Two K baby wow h n two K today.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Now that's just on the radio. This was our eighth
year of doing the Hammer and Nigel Show. How the
hell many podcast episodes did we do before this?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We were podcasting before it was cool, like before everybody
and their brother had one. We got in to that
whole phase early on and I think we did like five.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Years God are you kidding me? Five years podcasting. And
the only reason we've started the Hammer and Niel podcast,
or we call them a bar cast, is because you know,
Tom Sutton from Coaches would give us a free beer
tab right.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
We started at the Ugly Monkey, if you remember, but
that was still around, and we did a year from there,
and then we got the opportunity to take it over
to Coaches Tavern, just an institution here in Indy right
across from the field House. Tom and Adam the amazing
staff over there believed in us, and man, they'd let

(01:28):
us set up every Thursday. They'd give us a bar tab,
they'd pay us, and we would bring guests in in
a limo. Yeah, sometimes the chicken limo. Hey sure, and
just had a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think podcasters, if you're listening right now and you're
having trouble getting guests, make a deal with a limo company.
Appreciate if you've got if there's somebody locally that has
a mom and pop limo business. That's what we did,
and I think the fact that we were able to
get the guests, the caliber of guests.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We were willing to come on the show, it was
hathoras because they got picked up in a limo, right.
They didn't want to talk to us. They just wanted
the free drinks in the limo rides, which was fine
because then they'd come on our show.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
But in terms of the radio show, we started in
twenty seventeen around this time June July August, and today
is our two thousandth episode.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Thank you very much, and listen. We do things differently
on this show. When we decided that we wanted to
be part of the news talk genre. Right, the stereotypical
image of a news talk radio host is some big
fat pig smoking a cigar, trying to be Rush Limbaugh.
That's not what we do now. We may be fat,

(02:44):
but like we wanted to go down a different path, right,
and I think you're seeing that come to the forefront.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Look what Great Gutfeld's doing on television. Like for a
long time, there were no funny Conservatives shows that were
all about energy and humor and having a good time.
You'd still get opinions, But our show, I think the
reason that's resonated with so many people is that we're genuine.
This is who we are. We're not trying to be

(03:13):
Russia Limbad.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
We're a couple slap nuts from Beech Grove and liston
that feel like we're pretty good at this radio thing
and we want to, yes, inform you, but damn it,
we're gonna have a good time doing it.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
And not only that, but I don't want to change
like the thing about what we do here and the
news we talk about and the things some of the controversies.
I'm not trying to change anybody's mind on anything, right,
That's the one that's my thing. I don't care what
you think or what you believe. I just know what
I believe in what I think and I'm not afraid

(03:47):
to share it on the air. If you disagree with me, fine,
I don't care if you change your mind or not.
And that's I think the key to the success of
this show is that we're not trying to change your
mind here, folks, right, We're just we give you our
opinions and that's it. And corn Pop, I don't like
your attitude already on the chat corn Pop. Nigel doing

(04:10):
two thousand episodes is like saying Anthony Richardson is playing
two seasons in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Nigel may have missed a few episodes.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Along the way.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hey, hey, we all have vacation time. He may be
celebrating show number seven hundred and forty three today. Use
a lot of vacation because I get a lot of vacation.
How very Patrick Ewing of you. Yes, sports fans will
remember when Patrick Ewing was asked about his elaborate spending. Yeah,
we make a lot of money, but we spend a
lot of money. Oh well, nice, same philosophy for my vacation.

(04:44):
If you remember when we first started this little nickel
and dime pony show back in twenty seventeen, our very
first guest. And keep in mind, when you're a radio show,
your first guest is like an important thing, right, It's
a badge of honor to ask somebody to be your
first guest. Remind me again who it was.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
One mister Bob Kavoyan from the Bob and Tom Show,
who had been retired off that show for a long time.
But that show is a major reason why I am
here today, is because when I was a kid, right,
I would listen to that show humor.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
On the radio.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
We both grew up on lucky enough to work in
the same building with those guys and build a rapport
for them for several years when I worked for the
Alt Rock station which is down the hall, which which
the same the company, you know, the company Clear Channel
owned both of those stations. So Bob and I had
kept in touch over the years, and he was our
first guest.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
A little trip down memory lane here. He's a small
part of our very first interview on the WIBC afternoon show,
Hammer and Nigel from twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I just, I literally like everything that's bad for you
in this world, mm hmm, booze, carbs, beer, sugar, pasta, donuts, Twinkies,
adult cinema.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, good Lord, I I just like at all
you thank the adult cinema. You've burnt some of those
coarcs are dude, hearing that iconic Bob cavoyan laugh on
our show, I know, Oh it's the best. I need
to go back and listen to that whole thing, like
and think about this. This is our eighth year on

(06:21):
Afternoon Drive, Like I've got a junior in college this
year at a high school senior. My kids were like
twelve and nine. Oh dear Lord when we first started
this show. I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Makes me feel older you're you having a junior in college,
or or the fact that my kids were five and three.
My kids were real young when this radio show started.
But you having a kid that's about ready to graduate
high school and another kid that's going into his junior year.

(06:54):
I couldn't believe it when Chris was going into his
freshman year in college. Right you're telling me he's a junior.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's wild man. And like our families, Nige's kids, my kids,
we've kind of grown up with all of you listening,
like we share our lives with you, like a good
radio host. Their job is to share their lives with you,
to be relatable, and sometimes this is therapeutic for us.
And man, my family has grown up with you guys

(07:24):
listening to this show, but your kids, Nige, were so little.
I think one of my favorite moments is when you
were being mister mom one day and I don't know
who was recording this, but somebody sent me. I think
I was trying to do something for our social media. Okay,
and your kids are in the background and they're yelling,

(07:46):
and this is how Big Nige handled that situation.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I'm drinking beer.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Beer.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
What do you think she was saying right there? I
mean she couldn't. She was three years old in that
like something about the White House. I feel like Trump
going to the White House, play play it one more buck.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
I'm drinking beer.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know what she said, but I know what
the dad said right there. I know what Papa said.
So this is our two thousandth show today. Thank you
guys so much for tuning in. Our families appreciate you, guys.
We're all one big, happy family here Hamorrhoids nige Arians.
We've had a couple of different producers from Ari to

(08:41):
Kyle to producer Allison. We could not do this without
their hard work. But you folks to tune into this
little nicol and dime pony show every single day. God
bless you. Thank you. And Alison put together this lovely
family ties themed montage to celebrate two thousand shows because

(09:02):
they have all the things we like, booze and fat
guy food. What do you need sex for gas? Okay,
so let's talk about toast sucking. I've had sex with myself.
It's not the same. I'm emotional, tearing up. I'm not
giving on a meth trolley sexually gratifying himself with the

(09:27):
whole floats. They've ranked the meat sticks stick and I
don't have those. I got snotsage fingers. He just limped
to the finish line or whatever, like a little weeny

(09:48):
limp cranked, just hanging down. We didn't finish with a
flourish We finished with a I know what that's like?
This sucks? I suck?

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Is that Allison beatboxing at the end? Hell? Yeah, well
was baby boots and cats and boots and cats and
boots and cats. So man, thank you guys so much
for your support of this program. You took a couple
of slat nuts like us, and you made us the
most listened to afternoon drive show in the Midwest. You
guys are awesome.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Hi, this is Donald Trump and the only people with
worse air than mine are the ones you are listening
to right now.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Hammer and NIGELIBC two thousand shows.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Hammer.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
That's how we do it here on the Hammer and
Nigel Show. Today is the show number two thousand.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
My name is Nigel.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
President Trump said two hundred and seventy five thousand illegal
aliens have been kicked off social Security.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Good.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I keep on hearing how social Security is going to
disappear in a few years. Maybe this could alleviate some
of that, some of the problems.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Here is the old man number forty five and number
forty seven from the Oval Office earlier today.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
We've already kicked nearly two hundred and seventy five thousand
illegal aliens off.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Of the Social Security system.

Speaker 8 (11:15):
These are people, many of them have already left the country,
and yet we were sending them checks all the time.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
And two hundred and seventy five thousand.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
And that number is now even larger than that. Frank,
it's unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Job and what that's doing is making the system strong.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Now, I'll be a son of a you know what
knowledge because I was told from a Democrat friends that
that's just Republican talking points. It's illegal for somebody not
in this country to have Social Security. You're just a
tenfoil hat theorist if you believe that people are on
Social Security that aren't citizens, well, sounds like two hundred

(11:56):
and seventy five thousand at the least we're busted being
just that getting social Security when they shouldn't have been.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's so it was so easy for Trump to shut
down the border, or at least tamp down on illegal
border crossings within a few months. I mean, Joe Biden,
we talked to Lions. I was Director Lions a couple
of days ago, or was that yesterday? He was saying
there was tens of thousands of people coming across every day.

(12:27):
Donald Trump shut that down like that, And it was easy, right,
It was a couple of days from the numbers to
plummet's plummet and last.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Month there was not one illegal border crossing. Now people
are still sneaking across, not naive, but officially, you know,
it took just a couple of days to get it
under control, and here we are now with a secure border.
But the damage has been done though, Right, how many
people got across, how many got aways? Unknowns, terrorists? Right?

(12:59):
How many sells are you dealing with now because of
what the Biden administration did? Speaking of President Trump kind
of dropped a bombshell a little bit earlier today. And
I hate using that word because Democrats and media use
it so often, it's taken away the meaning. But like,
the biggest leg of fundraising for the Democrats is Act Blue.

(13:22):
Even during natural disasters, if you're donating to hurricane fire reliefs,
they always put Act Blue in there because that's how
they get their money. It's a big part of the
fundraising arm of the Democratic Party. Well, Donald Trump said
there is some shenanigans going on with Act Blue, and
he's calling for an investigation, which would be massive.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
President says he wants to know if foreign money is
being donated to the group and then utilize his sway elections.
Democrats are calling this probe a dangerous abuse of power.
Act Blue is an enormous operation in democratic politics. It's
raised more than sixteen billion dollars to the thousand and four,
you may have seen the text pop up from candadates
saying please donate go to the Act Flu website. Republicans

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use something similar called win red. There was a new
memo signed on Thursday directing the Attorney General to investigate
if foreign nationals are using the Act Blue platform to
bypass campaign finance laws.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Trump wants to report out in six months. That's Mark
Meredith the Fox News reporting. I love how.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Democrats say, oh, an investigation that would be dangerous. Well,
if there are allegations of improprieties, trusts me. There have
been lots of those levied against Donald Trump by the
Democrats over the years.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
All of a sudden you don't like investigations. Now, oh okay,
you investigated a Russian pepe tape. But now, all of
a sudden, you think the investigations have gone a little
too far. Okay. As Nige mentioned earlier, as we're celebrating
all afternoon, it's our two thousandth show. I put on
social media earlier today. Share some of your favorite moments,

(15:00):
favorite bits that we've done from the previous eight years.
Let us know what your favorite clips are and the
what I'm about to play came up repeatedly. Now, God
bless you, Nige, but you have pranked your mother multiple times.
There was the beer phone call beer beer, I'm going

(15:20):
for beer. I was back from the radio nowadays. Yeah,
but when we created a stan Lear soundboard. Now, Stan
Lear was the iconic voice of WIBC. They gave us
him as a news anchor when we first started to
bring some credibility to this shows anchor during the show.
He has since retired. He's living the sweet life, I

(15:40):
believe out in Iowa. He's awesome. But we created a
soundboard of just various pieces of audio that he would
say during newscasts, and we used the stan Lear soundboard
to prank Nigel's mom.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
This is Christina.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
May I help you? I'm staying Lear?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
How can I help you? Have your children been vaccinated
for measles? Well, I'm not sure you have the right number.

Speaker 10 (16:13):
Who did you want.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
To speak with?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
It has been dubbed revenge porn?

Speaker 11 (16:19):
Okay, Uh, they say.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
The sex was consensual.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
You have an incorrect number.

Speaker 11 (16:28):
I'm sorry you're gonna have to call.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't know who you want to speak with. Paps
are not a thing to pass, Okay. I don't know,
cause on HBO, I go, I.

Speaker 11 (16:46):
Don't know who you are or what you want.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm staying lear.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Would you like to speak with my supervisor?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You can party till you puke.

Speaker 11 (16:58):
I really need to tell my supervisor on this call.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know what's going on. Patroniza pimp.

Speaker 12 (17:06):
Sure that is not anything that has to do with
our business here.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
So did you have pimples when you were in school?

Speaker 11 (17:18):
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Are not a thing the past that is really inappropriate?
But really, to stop, it's just me. What do you mean,
I'm playing the clips of staying over the phone here.
It's just I'm at work. You're on the air.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
What do you mean, Nigel?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
My goodness, goodness, never watched house on HBO.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Chel Okay, sorry, sorry to bother you work mom.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, okay, I'll patch to you later, right, I love you?

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Love you?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
ISAIM two thousand episodes. It's The Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Okay, you're listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, two thousand episode. We're celebrating today. My name is
Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with a very special
guest on the hotline.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
In the last eight years of the afternoon program. We've
had three producers, but people forget before the afternoon drive show,
there was the very low rated weekend show that we did,
and then they moved us to nights to kind of
get us ready. Yes, and the man behind the night
show and early stages of the Hammer and Nigel Afternoon
show was producer Ari, and Ari joins us, Now, hell

(18:47):
are you Ari? Ari?

Speaker 5 (18:49):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (18:49):
Guys? Great Greg Entry song Allison.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
When you think of Eminem, I always think of Ari
because he did one of the great bits on our
show where he acts like he was Eminem, doing like
a battle rap. And I think we've got it here.
He's going to incorporate Hammer and Nigel and the WIBC
hosts into his freestyle.

Speaker 13 (19:10):
Sitting here on the fourth floora MS hammering Nigel saying
something stupid every other sentence and just a little too fat,
drink too much booze. But what else would you expect
from a couple of dudes, Nothing but fake news. I
like sophisticated radio. That's why I listen to Tony Katz.
I walk in here and I see Nigela fool and
Hammer's not wearing any pant.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
That's true.

Speaker 13 (19:32):
I see their faces and it hurts my sight. Get
these guys out of here. Somebody called the chicks on
the right. Yeah, I say what I gotta say, even
if they throw me in the slammer, but you gotta
hear this, yo, Nigel and Hammer.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Ah, well done. What a throwback Allri. Get us up
to date. Man, since you left this little nickel and
dime pony show, what have you been doing?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Just keeping the buses moving an indigo?

Speaker 10 (19:57):
I just you know, fil them up each morning and
push them along.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, somebody's got to.

Speaker 14 (20:02):
Are you.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Are you still fighting with Tony Katz on social media?
Because I think that was a thing for a little while,
wasn't it. You don't get me in trouble. I don't
get in trouble.

Speaker 15 (20:12):
I'm not talking about it.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
But what's what's to do with Ari's life? Man?

Speaker 10 (20:17):
Just got engaged, So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Utions thanks.

Speaker 10 (20:22):
I got three dogs now that's three too many? Uh,
you know, doing yard work, adulting, not crying as much
beer anymore on Fridays, which is a shame.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
You leave our show and you get into shape.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah yeah, get your life together once you leave the
Hammer in Nigel show.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
You guys were a terrible influence on me.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, great moments in Ari history. Ari was the best
at going out on location. Like each producer we've had
have had their strengths, right, Allison's great at audio. She
puts together these fantastic montages. It wasn't scared to go
out to the public. Ari would go out and do
great moments and lying talking politics with hot drunk chicks
and all of those things. What was your favorite moment

(21:02):
of the hammer in Nigel show?

Speaker 10 (21:04):
Ari, I mean asked when Nigel glass Coofski won the
five hundred.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, no way you could top that. Now, most people
associate me with being like the hot head on this show,
but Ari, I think caught the biggest lecture Nigel has
ever given behind the scenes. Do you remember this, Ari?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I do.

Speaker 10 (21:23):
I didn't know if we were talking about this or not,
because I was like, I don't want to make a
life to Nigel looks bad.

Speaker 11 (21:27):
But yeah, Nigel shoot my app out.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well I don't. I don't think I look bad.

Speaker 13 (21:33):
I think I mean, I didn't know if it was
off the air, if it was secret or not.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, I it was the biggest disservice to our audience.
We say it didn't get it live on air. You
I think you were training somebody, Henry.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, I remember you.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Were training Henry on the soundboard and it wasn't going
too well and things were going haywire and I go, hey, look, Ari.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Can can you just get make on this? And you
right and is no, Matt wants Henry to do it?

Speaker 10 (22:00):
Ari?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Waitis that morning it felt like mister tough guys.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Go Ari, get back? I go, Ari, get back on
the soundboard. This show is sounding like s right now,
and you go, no, Matt wants him to do it
like like we just And I my only regret is, yeah,
that was that was a true I'm not like that,
but but that was.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
A true all out and the out fight I got.
I got shoot out man like it was what it was.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
But I will give you credit because you didn't send
out a very professional email detailing what had happened and
how we can avoid it the next time, right right?
I hope by guns, Canna we can let by guns
be by guns.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
From that incident I forgot about. We were fine twenty
minutes later. I don't Ari. It wasn't quite the Nigel meltdown,
But there was a day that you had ticked me
off because I didn't think you were paying attention to
the show, was right. I think we've got that audio, Allison,
What the hell Love?

Speaker 10 (23:01):
Yeah, it was five fourteen and we ended the story
to go it was fifteen.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Clip right here said five.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Fifteen, and I looked over and you were sitting there
clearly on your phone and where I'm going like this
stop even stopped the clip. We always like to go
into traffic and with a fun to kind of clip.
It's always fun to throw it to Matt on the
good and you're over there texting, looking at naked chicks
and doing all kinds of shit.

Speaker 11 (23:26):
Remember this, Ari, I do recall that now.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
Yes, I felt the wraps from and to be fair,
I was totally won't not make attention.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
We know we're well aware. Uh well, Ari, we were
celebrating two thousand shows today. We couldn't have got where
we were at, especially early on, without you doing your
stuff and going on the road and night shows, the
night shows. So we just wanted to call and say
thank you, Hey, congratulations guys.

Speaker 10 (23:53):
Truly, it's one of the best parts of my career story.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Some people I worked on this show, you guys, are off.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
I'm here to two thousand more.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Appreciate you, brother, Thank you. So after producer Ari, it
was like night and day. We got Kyle, we got TKW,
We got a grown man that was a professional wrestler
to become our producer, romondo Z Kyle Wells and joining
us now on the hotline is Mega Mondo. He was

(24:21):
our Joe Biden impressionist. You could hear his laugh in
the background. TK Dubb, how were you hammer?

Speaker 15 (24:28):
Nigel is so good to hear you guys, And yeah,
it was like when the Chicago Bulls acquired Dennis Rodman.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
We just kept winning championship. Kyle's with us for a
long time. How many years did you hang out with us?
Kyle Man?

Speaker 15 (24:43):
I was with you guys from twenty eighteen to twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So you do the math. I can't. Wow, that's a
great run. That's a pretty good run. And I still
get people coming up to me today saying, who's the
guy that would always have that laugh in the background
just over the top, huh like almost like pee wee?

Speaker 15 (25:02):
Like yeah, I still get people coming up to me
and saying, hey, can you do the last that you
used to do when you were the producer on the
hammer In Nigel Show, and I do it for him.
No matter where I'm at, no matter what I'm doing,
I will do the laugh for them.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
How's the Mega Mondo persona going? Are you still wrestling?

Speaker 15 (25:22):
I am still wrestling. However, I will be taking a
hiatus because well there's a there's a new addition coming
to the Wells family and many Mondo's on the way.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Roun Anny Mondo coming up. Your old lady's going to
drop a little mini Mondo.

Speaker 15 (25:40):
All right, yeah, yeah, and she's she's dropping him soon.
He is coming this October. If you had on your
Bingo card that producer TKW was gonna get married in
April of twenty twenty five, go to WrestleMania and witness
John Cena win number seventeen and Kyle.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
We're not doing that. We're not going to do that, Kyle.
I'm just telling you that. Right now.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Connor, my thirteen year old, still has Mega Mondo merchandise
that he will wear to school with you with your
picture and all the bananas and the gorilla face mask.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's awesome.

Speaker 15 (26:22):
Connor is a Mega fan.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tell you that I appreciate him. Is Kyle. We played
some audio earlier of me yelling at Ari, so I
think it's only appropriate that I play some audio of
me yelling at you. This is when Nige and I
were in a production studio and we're trying to record
a commercial because that's how it works here. And you're
so loud. You're out in the hallway and even through
these soundproof glass we can hear you. And that's when

(26:45):
this happened at assistance. Hey, can you just reak up
for five seconds outside the studio? Quote? Can you shut
the bleep up for five seconds? Kyle? And the answer
is usually is no.

Speaker 15 (27:03):
I got used. I got used to that from Hammer
quite a bit, Mondo, before we let you go, like
I think the public wants it.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
How would Joe Biden say happy two thousand shows to
the Hammer and Nigel Show and give us one laugh
big note in the background, Hey shit, Joe.

Speaker 15 (27:23):
You're coming on to Nigel Show and every birthday and
a Hammer.

Speaker 16 (27:30):
Anyway, there is TK mega Mondo.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Kyle, We love your brother, Thank you so much for
doing what you did for this show. And don't be
a stranger. Congrats on the upcoming arrival.

Speaker 15 (27:45):
Thank you guys, Love you too. Congrats on two k
and to many more.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
It's The Hammer and Nigel Show. And again Nige social
media post early this morning, tell us your favorite moments
from The Hammer and Nigel Show. You would be surprised
at how many p have said when Nigel pukes, and
it's plural because you've puked multiple times. I think there's

(28:09):
a two or three. I think it's more than that.
It's been a while, it's more than that. Here's an
example of what I'm talking about. If you don't know,
we had a story about a news anchor who was
reporting the news but then swallowed a fly and like
started choking and kind of gagging live. It was live
on air, right, this is back when Kyle was our producer.

(28:32):
And I think I'll just let the audio tell the story.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
They play it again, just play her swallow. An actional
emergency has been in. Oh there it is. Oh, oh,
it's all down her throat, Nigel, it's all going down
her throat with all that bacteria on the fly's legs
and oh man, all the fly larva right, all the
larva could possibly go down her throat. I'm not doing

(28:57):
that again.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
I'm not puking it flies having babies inside this woman's stomach.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Oh stop stop. She had to burp it up at
one point, and the fly and the saliva all looks
like we did it, Kyle.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
We made it baby, We.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Got him, We got him. Oh, this is real, this
is happening. Do it on the camera so everybody knows
we're not faking it. It's like fish in a barrel, Kyle.
At this point, it's too easy to make him do it.
Oh this is great, So I'm just going to assume

(29:38):
that grunt means yes, this is something.

Speaker 17 (29:42):
An action emergency beak break.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I was on my knees. I think we switched to
a one shot, like all both YouTube cameras were on
you on your knees, puking in the same trash can
that Mike Pence used to have. So disgusting.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
It's just the sound that that woman made as she
ingested to fly.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
And then burped it up as you. I think you
put it in that clip and just just the guttural sounds.
And when we see you on the struggle bus, we
do what any good friends would do, yet we take
it to the extreme and make you throw up. Thank you.
Uh now, listen, not everything of Sunshine and Roses on
the Hammer in nineties show, not everybody likes what we do.

(30:34):
I had this voicemail greeting me one morning, Clint spewing
full untruth.

Speaker 15 (30:41):
Brast.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
There's the reason that.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You work in Indianapolis, a low market, pitty little town man,
because you don't have any brains or talents.

Speaker 11 (30:51):
Your partners from livedon. Wow, he's got a good world
view sometimes, I think you see and losers have never
left this this state.

Speaker 12 (31:01):
Oh my god, Margining Heber show, is this anything?

Speaker 11 (31:06):
You guys are losers?

Speaker 14 (31:08):
Man, I'll be yourself.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, first of all, he's wrong in terms of market size.
This is considered in the radio industry a large market.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
It is very much so. And you've left Listen, you've
left Indy. You've lived in Texas. Yeah, oh yeah, Austin.
I went to Munsey for a couple of years to
go to Ball State. But yeah, I came back here.
It's my home, damn right I am. And the reason
why don't leave Indianapolis there's got to be somebody here
to fight back against these losers running this town.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And if I've got to be that dude, there's some
bad losers running this town.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Man, I'm your huckleberry. Let's go. I'm old, I'm cranky,
and I got nothing to lose. And it's odd to say,
but you put me and Joe hawk Set in a room,
I might be the sober one. So again, thank you
guys so much for tuning into this program.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
And Nigel, can you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
So let my name is Nigel Chasing Hammer right over there.
Two thousand Hammer and Nigel episodes happening right now, number
two thousand ever since we started this on air gig
in twenty seveneen.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
And we are so appreciative, so thankful that you guys
have stuck with us all these years. We've got more
ratings news coming out here pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Oh we're so excited. Man, No, Nol, real quick, can
before we move on to like some of the news
of the day stuff, can I just request something real quick? Sure?
Normally at this time of the day or around this time,
I beg our YouTube audience to click the like button
to get us to one hundred. I'm wondering if we
can get to two hundred today. Oh now, right now

(32:52):
I'm looking at the WIBC YouTube feed of this program.
Every day, WIBC streams all the shows to cats Kendall
and Casey us we love you guys. On the YouTube chat.
Right now, we're at seventy one thumbs up. I would
love to get to two hundred. So at any point
in the last eight years, in the last nine and

(33:15):
ninety nine episodes, if we've made you laugh at any point,
if we've brought you breaking news at any point, just
a charity like is all we're asking. I'd like to
get to two hundred today. If we've stimulated you in
any way, shape or form, right, if you've ever had
lustful thoughts on producer Kyle or Allison, either way, depending

(33:36):
on what you're into, give us a like, give us
a thumbs up. I'm hoping we could get to two
hundred likes today for our two thousandth show. I don't
know if we can. I don't know how many people
jump in that YouTube chat. We're pretty good for about
one hundred and fifty. Like, anytime I look down, we're
about one hundred and fifty people watching. I'd like that

(33:57):
to grow. So if you're listening in your car, that's great.
If you're listening online, that's great. But if you can
get to the YouTube chat, give us a like, give
us a thumbs out, the.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Cooking dinner at home, and you can mirror your phone
to the TV that's hanging above your mantle. Yes, type
in Hammer and Nigel two thousandth episode WIBC. That counts
and you could watch us.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Chris wants to know if we get to two hundred, Well,
Nigel twerk. If we get to two hundred doll trque. Okay,
there you go. If we get two hundred likes, two
hundred thumbs up on this live stream on the number
one listen to Drivetime show in not only Indianapolis but
the Midwest. Like, our numbers are huge. God bless you guys.

(34:45):
Nigel in the same studio that Mike Pence used to
give sophisticated takes on the news of the day, we'll
twork on the YouTube camera.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Wouldn't be the first time, but I was as I
was admonished by my my wife. My wife is a
professional job and one of her you know, higher ups,
forwarded UH the footage of me tworking and uh, and
then I think, I I believe some of my my

(35:16):
kid's friends saw the footage too.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Do I need to give you the same speech that
I gave to somebody earlier this week, stop embarrassing your
wife and you know what, nudge. That's another aspect we
haven't talked about our family, specifically our wives put up
with a lot of crap. Yes we do. Lindsey is
a saint. The coupon lady Crystal is. I don't want

(35:43):
to say she's a saint because she's a bit of
a She's a little bit of a she's a saint,
just Joe say she's the same. She she's got a
worse mouth on her than I do.

Speaker 16 (35:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
But no, they put up with a lot of crap
from us and Alison, like when you decided to get
into broadcasting, I don't know if you'd ever dreamed you'd
be a part of a show that has a segment
called how have you injured your crotch? But here you are,
here I am you know.

Speaker 18 (36:10):
My dream is a little girl was always to be
asked to beer bong live on air in front of everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
And I did that, but very well, you do it
very well right Thanks to you guys, And for those
who don't know, we could not do this show without
Alison and Matt Behar. I talked to Matt earlier, but
it just goes without saying nudge. You and I have
been radio brats since we're eighteen years old. We've been
in the city doing professional radio since we were eighteen.

(36:35):
There have been a lot of traffic guys in the city,
television and radio. I mean, you think about this radio station.
Big John gillis up in the chopper, done stuck right.
Matt Bear is the best YEP. I love Matt Behar.
He is so honest. I love what he's doing with
that podcast, trying to pay it forward and help others.
We're very fortunate to be surrounded by talented people here.

(36:59):
So Allison, as much as I sometimes don't make eye
contact with you, as much as I sometimes give you crap,
I am very grateful that you're a part of this program.

Speaker 18 (37:09):
I'm grateful at least one of you know my name.
Maybe one day Nigel will learn my name.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
What old names has Nigel called you? Ashley? Alan? Al
Allan's my favorite. Alan is my favorite. It's not even
the same gender, Nigel. Have you seen how she's clearly
not a man? In my mind?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Is scatterbrain I'm doing this show, and for whatever reason,
Ashley sometimes comes.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Up on my Oh it's my favorite on my radar,
it's my stepsister's name. I yeah, my bad. Let's uh
check in with our friends over at CNN. Shall we?
This is CNN The most pussical name. Laugh track, the

(37:59):
laugh track behind the most trusted name in cable news
always makes me smile. CNN was trying to troll Donald Trump.
It was Abby Phillip. She's the host of the low
rated nighttime program. But instead I think they gave him
like a really kick ass nickname. Abby Philip was calling
Donald Trump batman because he was fighting crime in Washington,

(38:22):
d C. But the way she laid it out made
him sound kind of like a badass.

Speaker 19 (38:26):
Let's get right to what America is talking about. Donald
Trump makes himself batman in the nation's capital is Gotham City.
The President of the United States has declared himself crime
fighter in chief, and he's taking over Washington's police force.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Okay, you want to call me batman and you expect
that to be some sort of negative I wish people
called me batman. That'd be badass. I wonder if she
wrote that or if one of her Lackeys wrote that
because either way that that's not an insult. No, not
at all. That's not a Jordan It's it's really indicative

(39:03):
of what Donald Trump is trying to do in Washington, DC.
Right when is calling somebody Batman an insult? You moron?
That's awesome. I wish people called me Batman, and it
reminded me of that scene in Talladega Knights where Ricky
Bobby has to admit that cal Naughton calling himself the

(39:24):
magic Man is a pretty awesome nickname. Name the magic Man.

Speaker 20 (39:30):
Now you see me?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Now you don't that the stupidest nickname I've ever heard?

Speaker 7 (39:38):
All Right, that's awesome nickname.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Right. If Abby Phillip thinks calling somebody Batman as some
sort of slight, I got news for you, Abby, it's not.
It's pretty awesome. All throughout the afternoon, we've been playing
some of the greatest moments or stuff that didn't suck
as bad here in the last eight years of The
Hammer in Nigel Show episode two thousand today. And I

(40:04):
think one of my favorite things, Nige was when you
were coming home from our Red White and Bowl charity event. Yes,
and your designated driver was Rob Kendall. Oh, yeah, you
live streamed the trip home where you were so intoxicated.
Now you wanted Rob to turn into the woods. You

(40:26):
couldn't tell where you lived.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I got on Facebook live stream and the event was
over and Rob had graciously agreed to drop me off
as kind of on the way. He lived in Brownsburg
up in Zionsville. And I think I think this was
overplayed a little bit.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I think let's find out and I feel like I'm slurring.
I don't care because I have not had this much
to drink in a long time, and I'll take it.
Tomorrow morning always gonna be like, where's Nigel. He's passed out.

Speaker 12 (41:00):
With Hammer or in Nigel. Did I sound drunk when
I said that? Yeah, because you are drunk. But that's well,
now hold on, I've got a buzz. Yeah, I mean
you're not like, oh, guess for me, Andy Griffith.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I have not had too much of drein. Trust me.
I mean I am a veger at this that I
have not had too much of drein.

Speaker 16 (41:20):
I don't like to go anywhere, like, I really don't
like to go and no, I don't.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I don't like to go places we had a lunch.
Where'd you get? We went to b W three's. I
had not been to b W three. I'm so delicious.
Now this is gonna be the trickery pay. We're gonna
go up this little hill. It's turkey right right, left, right?

(41:58):
Which one is it? Turned right? Yeah? Let me take
Oh my goodness, now, God bless Rob Kendall. He dealt
with a lot that night. Can I say that? What
was the agreement for me? Torking? We had to get

(42:20):
two hundred YouTube likes.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I don't know if I'm looking at the same thing
you're looking at, but I'm seeing three hundred and ten.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Oh wow. Okay, So I tell you what we're gonna do, Alison,
keep the cameras on. Okay. We're gonna go to Matt
Bear's Traffic. After Matt Bear's Traffic, we're gonna have Nigel
Twerking to give the people what they want. Okay, So Allison,
find us some good Twerking music. Maybe it could be
back that ass up. Maybe it could be.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
You could watch this on Hammer and Nigel WIBC YouTube stream.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
You can do it. Put your you know what into
it DJ's choice of Here, Allison, you find the torky
music of your choice. Nigel pays off the bet right
after Matt Bear's Traffic presents.

Speaker 18 (43:12):
It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

Speaker 21 (43:16):
Here is this anything Roddy by Indiana Unclaimed the program
presented by the Attorney General's Office.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
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Speaker 2 (43:46):
Are we being sued?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
No, we are actually we are actually being complimented. Dear
Jason and Nigel, this is from again the Office of
the Attorney General, Todd RAKEATA. Dear Jason and Nigel, please
allow me to extend my warmest congratulations to both of
you on your two thousand show. This remarkable milestone is

(44:09):
a testimony to your talent, energy, and ability to keep
listeners engaged day after day. Your sharp wit, thoughtful commentary
and unique chemistry have made the Hammer of Nigel Show
a staple for many Hoosiers. Here is to all the
countless laughs, lively debates, and memorable moments you've been shared

(44:30):
or you've shared, and to so many more episodes ahead.
Please let me know if I can ever be assistants
to you. Sincerely, Todd Rakkeeda, Alroney General legal stuff. He
wrote legal stuff on it. He wrote legal stuff because
he is a part of that part of that intro. Now,

(44:51):
thank you, mister Rakkeeda for that very kind note.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well, thank you so much to the Attorney General's office
for the letter man. That's awesome. Normally when you get
a letter from the Attorney General, it's bad news, but
this is good news and that's awesome, very cool. And
he says spirited debates. If you remember, there was a
spirited debate we had with Todd Rakeita, like early on
in this program, there was something I disagreed vehemently with

(45:17):
I think you were with me and man, we sparred.
But you know what, grown ups can disagree and still
be friends and still have a conversation. So thank you
very much. That's awesome. All right, let's get into it here.
Is this anything today, Nige? Maybe this is your reason
to drink. I don't know. It's tattoo removal day and

(45:39):
a woman in West Virginia has taken it to another level,
she's preserving her husband's Stealers tattoo after he passed away.
What she had the mortician cut off her husband's Stealers
tattoo from his body so she could frame it and
hang it on her wall.

Speaker 15 (45:59):
Tech it.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
He was a part of tattoo removal Day. Here's Angelica
talking about keeping her late husband's ink.

Speaker 20 (46:08):
We really had my husband's tattoo preserved on Friday, after
everybody left and I was doing my goodbye is when
the mortician and I stood there and I got to outline.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
The exact tattoo.

Speaker 20 (46:19):
I wanted my husband, having over seventy tattoos, I wanted
the surrounding tattoos in it as well.

Speaker 17 (46:25):
So you outline it and then the tissue is removed
and save my ink forever. Sent the funeral home preservation
bag and sent it to save my ink forever. When
they showed us his tattoo, it was undescribable as to
what that felt.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah, this is something that's a little dark macabre. I
like I thought, skin just kind of withered away and
the composed after you died. There must be some way
for the mortician to preserve and and make this tattoo

(47:13):
you know, did they frame it? Is it hanging on
a wall somewhere or is it just like, is it
the skin part just hanging off a nail somewhere in
the garage?

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Like is it? Is it framed? There's one of those calendars.
Or let's see the Colts play the Dolphins in week
one and look there's my husband Steelers tattoos.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Just cremate me, don't don't cut off parts of my
dead skin and and do.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
That cornpop on the YouTube chat notge what's grosser hanging
dead people's skin on the wall or Nigel Torquing.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
You can make that decision yourself, and I believe you're
going to be tor here in just a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah. I said, if we can get at least four
hundred likes on the YouTube, I will twork and then
five hundred likes. It's Allison's turn, and we're at like
four hundred. We're at four hundred and seventy something or
other right now at the time of this. Yes, Allison,
are you down for a five hundred like TOWERK.

Speaker 18 (48:24):
I'll do a special I'll do a special dance, a
special dance. Yeah, I'll do a special dance At five hundred.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
We're behind here, so should we take a break and
then come back and to work. Why. I don't feel
it's appropriate to tork as we have the FOP president on.
So I'll tell you what. Oh oh yeah, let's go
about four fifty PM. Four fifty that's when I will
pay off my tork. And that's when Allison if we
can get uh, we're getting a five hundred likes. If

(48:54):
we get to sixteen more likes, Allison will do some
sort of dance. Maybe it's a lap dance on Nigel,
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (49:00):
I've been rehearsing.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Oh wow, we got a ball game. You guys hear that.
We got a ball game that is coming up next.
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Speaker 3 (50:10):
Two thousand episodes. Ladies and gentlemen, My name is Nigel.
That is Jason Hammer right over there with a very
special guest on.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
The hotline over the last one ninety nine shows over
the last eight years. One of our favorite guests is
FOP president Rick Snyder. But Rick, I gotta be honest.
I don't like that you're calling our show and you're
telling producer Allison you don't have to tork because Hammer
and Nigel said so.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Wreck, come on now hold on.

Speaker 11 (50:39):
Well, first of all, guys, congratulations, But the reason why
I told her that is because I just heard squad
cards were being dispatched to your studios to investigate some
kind of a lude performing.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I appreciate you, Wreck. We got enough life.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
We got enough, We got more than enough likes on
the YouTube video.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yes, Alison and I will both be paying that off
here in a few minutes. But hey, before we get
into some of the bad news around town talking about
officers being shot at Did I see you down in Florida?
I think it was Miami, Correct me if I'm wrong, Rick,
You were like baptizing people? Did I see that?

Speaker 7 (51:23):
Right?

Speaker 14 (51:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (51:25):
We had our national FOP conference down in Miami Beach
in Florida, And as you guys know, I also serve
as the national chaplain for our FOP. Yes, for about
four hundred thousand members in their families. Always tell my
pastor friends, that's a mighty big congregation. But while we
were down there, we had one member who said that
he wanted to be baptized in the ocean while we

(51:46):
were there, So we extended that invitation to all the
thousands of delegates there, and before we knew it, we
went down had baptisms by the beach, and while we
were in the ocean, we ended up with over twenty
people walking down in those waters, dying to themselves and
rising the newness of life. And we have video of that.
It's actually pinned at the top of my ex account

(52:08):
at Rick f Op eighty six if people want to
check it out. It's very powerful to see, and it's
a great reminder that God is on the move in
the policing professional.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
You know, Rick, just speaking in general, our our church.
I go to Trader's Point and I what they what
they do is they they have their praise and worship
band play and then they have people come down and
get baptized, and tears stream down my face when I

(52:38):
see somebody disappear into that water and then come back
out a completely different person, And it's powerful. It's it's
I don't even I can't even find the words to
describe it. And I can't even imagine watching people in

(52:58):
your profession doing it in Miami in the ocean, and
it's it's just a powerful, powerful thing.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
To watch people's lives being transformed when something like that happens. Man,
it's just like the tears, Like I can't stop the tears. Man.

Speaker 11 (53:15):
It's because it does show you transformation is possible, yes,
and it's only done through the Lord Jesus Christ and
his example. So I encourage people check out the video.
It's powerful to see we actually had an officer in
his entire family that went down into the waters, a
married couple that were baptized together. It was just it
was just so powerful and it's something to really see,
and it was a great, great blessing, the great thing

(53:37):
and all that is. I get a front row seat
and get to watch it all, and it's just it's
something very powerful and very compelling for people to watch.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Wade on the YouTube chat, he writes, what I love
about the Hammer and Nigel show. We go from trking
to baptisms and that's kind of what we do. He's fine,
it's fine, man, it's what we do.

Speaker 11 (53:58):
Ll Can I tell you guys real quick, congratulations on
your two thousand, two thousandth show.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 11 (54:05):
That's powerful man. And if you guys have done two
thousand shows, I was thinking about that must mean that
the FOP has probably done about three hundred or so
of those shows. With all the times that we're on here,
you guys have been a great blessing to us. And
here's what's really cool about it. You're showing solid reporting
in this city, a lot of times more solid reporting

(54:26):
than many of the media outlets in our capital city.
And your reporting is based on facts. It's based on fun,
but also the future of our capital city. And that's
what makes you, guys the number one drive time talk
show consistently throughout the Midwest. So congratulations you guys. You
deserve all the recognition and all the honors.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Man Well, Rick, we couldn't do it without awesome people
like you that support this program, So thank you. That
means a lot. Speaking of the Circle City, what did
you think of the budget that was rolled out the
other night? Seemed like this was a pretty fair budget
presented by Joe hogg set. You know me, Rick, I'm
the last guy that's going to carry water for this mayor.

(55:08):
But in terms of funding for the police department, I
didn't see any cuts there, So I feel like that's
pretty fair. What say you?

Speaker 11 (55:16):
Yeah, guys, you know we're always big on it, and
I said all the time, we give credit where credit
is due, whether it's good or bad, and this is
the time again where this mayor. You know, people can
say what they want, but think about this. It's the
ninth consecutive balance budget he has introduced with no tax
increases over those nine years. It fully funds the Indianapolis
Metropolitan Police Department and it's at three hundred and fifty

(55:38):
eight million dollars for twenty twenty six. Now it's a
lot of money, no doubt, but it's our number one
priority as a government. But it's also three hundred and
fifty eight million of a one point seven billion dollar budget.
So to put that in perspective, the IMPD is only
making up about twenty one percent of the overall budget.
So really, even with those increases in funding, we've really

(56:00):
plateaued or slipped a little bit in terms of total
funding for the overall budget. So to those naysayers and
critics out there that say we should be stripping or
defunding the police to spend that on other things, I
think the mayor has found a balance where he's fully
funding the police and also putting additional dollars toward other things.
We can dispute what those should be going towards, but

(56:22):
it does prove the point that it is possible, and
it's possible in a blue city when you look at
the political perspective of that. But I got to tell you,
through this process, we have to be mindful of any
kind of defund the police. Politicians or propagandists that will
try to do any kind of shady stuff. But I
think we're at a point where, regardless of the political persuasions,

(56:45):
people are seeing across the nation that now is the
time to be defending the police, fully funding them, and
making sure they have all the resources they need to
be successful.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
One of the points I've made Rick over the past
couple of years is I'm glad that hog Set has
given and has proposed budgets.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
And given you guys.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
The license plate readers, the gunshot detection technology, the funds
to recruit more. I mean, you're the highest paid police
department in the state. But you throw money at it,
that's fine. But the prosecution, the prosecutors and the judges

(57:31):
are a different thing. So you can throw all the
money at it you want. But unless we get unless
we get a hold of what's going on with the
prosecutors and the judges, I don't know that that makes
that much of a difference. When we're talking about again to.

Speaker 11 (57:52):
The critics, right and the folks that aren't such big
supporters of the police, if you want to end up
spending less on policing safety, you've got to do something
with this prosecutor in courts. Until that changes, you're going
to continue throwing money at policing only to watch it
go down the drain by the revolving door of criminal justice.

(58:12):
So if you want to bring down the spending we
have to do on policing, make a change with your
prosecutor and your courts. Allow us to get ahead of
this game, and then we can start doing some of
these other things. I've always said, guys, and you know this, people,
it's not an either or proposition. It's not either we
fund the police to the demise of proactive education and

(58:33):
prevention campaigns and opportunities. We say, you've got to be
able to do them both, but you've got to get
your priorities in the right order, which is strong policing
safety first, that draws down this crime, backed up by
a prosecutor in courts that then't allow us to direct
dollars for the preventative maintenance. If you will, of the community,
the guys, you take a look around, look at things

(58:55):
like this skid row and Fountain Square that continues to fester,
and it is only a visible representation of the challenges
that we face as a community. And people say, well,
that's not a law enforcement problem. I beg to differ,
and I think I think the residents in those areas
beg to differ as well. We've had shots fired there,
cases of animal cruelty, we had a person that tried

(59:15):
to stab another person, and you have people that are
that are moving because they can't live in that same place.
And what's crazy in all of that is you've got
local government that's now making taxpayers, taxpayers, residents, business owners.
They're making them wake and their quality of life is suffering.

(59:36):
They're feeling the economic impact. And now they're actually telling
them that those same taxpayers have to pay for others
to be housed. And so while all this keeps swirling
around and no action is being taken, your taxpayer base
is moving. They're voting with their feet, and again, those
are dollars that could be going for these other programs,

(59:57):
but will suffer because the people that pay the bills
are going to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Rick, We've got about a minute or so left here,
but I do want to get your thoughts on a
disturbing trend that we're seeing. A lot of people are
firing at your officers now, and God bless, we haven't
seen an officer shot fatally in a long time, but
it's not because bad guys haven't been trying. There was

(01:00:22):
another story overnight where officers were taking shots from some lunatic.
Just walk me through this disturbing trend that we're seeing
right now.

Speaker 11 (01:00:32):
Yeah, we've now seen three IMPD officers shot at in
the past three weeks. One of those officers was shot
multiple times, sustained three separate gunshot wounds, is still fighting
for his recovery. But it's consistent. You know, we've said
that when people are openly firing guns and shooting people
on Monument Circle in downtown Indianapolis in broad daylight, what

(01:00:54):
do you think they're going to do in the rest
of your city. That's why it really is the wild
wild West out here for our officers and the residents
that they're working to protect.

Speaker 15 (01:01:03):
Guys.

Speaker 11 (01:01:04):
Nationwide, we had one hundred ninety eight officers shot in
two hundred and twelve days. That's a remarkable stat and
it shows you that the sanctity of life has been
wadded up and thrown out the window of many of
our major cities, especially and the challenge for all of us,
and we talked about at this National FOP conference. We
had members of the Trump administration that came in, Tom Holman,

(01:01:25):
Christy Nome, Dan Bongino.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
They all came in.

Speaker 11 (01:01:28):
And spoke to the to the representatives of police officers,
and they made clear a few things. One Tom Holman
affirmed the position that we took here in Indianapolis on
striking the right ballants between local law enforcement and the
federal officers as they do their jobs. Christy Nome talked
about recruiting for ICE. She's trying to hire ten thousand
new ICE officers. They're now over one hundred thousand applicants,

(01:01:52):
which shows you morale matters. And then Dan Bongino made
clear that bad things are on the horizon, which I've
been saying to you guys, and that we got to
get back to basics quick. So right here, as it
comes back to Indianapolis, we've got to fix this criminal
justice system. We've got to uproot what's going on in
the prosecutor's office because the only ones that are living

(01:02:12):
behind bars in Indianapolis are the law abiding taxpayers and businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Well, Rick, we always appreciate your support on this program.
You know how we feel about law enforcement. It's been
a big part of Nigel's life, my life. We've had
family members be part of law enforcement and having you
as a guest on this program over the last eight years,
developing a friendship with you and your officers, especially in
the two thousandth episode. Yeah, it's been a blessing and

(01:02:41):
we thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 11 (01:02:44):
Well, guys, you'd be blessed and we hope to be
a part of the next two thousand and health and
happiness to both of you and all the staff there.
And do not make that young lady tourk.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Cheers, cheers, no deal, Rick, but we appreciate your time.
Thank you so much. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.
Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
You believe these characters are weirdos.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
We do have some news to get to ladies and gentlemen.
My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is here. But this
is our two thousand episode of The Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Thank you. I paid off my torking debt earlier. You
set some.

Speaker 18 (01:03:26):
Two hundred likes on faceboo, hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Likes on Facebook. YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Oh I'm sorry on YouTube, and if you go to
YouTube right now, just type in WIBC Hammer and Nigel
you're going to see something extraordinary because already paid off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Mike. You go back and look at mine. Mine was
only two hundred people were complimenting you on the YouTube chat.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
My hamstrings are sore already from doing the talking. But
now that we have over six hundred likes on our YouTube,
on our two thousand episode, it will be Hammer and
producer Alison Twerking in the background.

Speaker 18 (01:04:10):
Now I didn't I said I have my own special dance.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
You have your own special dance. So what should I do? Show?

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Because I want to. It's right behind me. Here is
where you guys are going to be doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
So go to the WIBC YouTube feed right now. And myself,
I've promised to twerk, but you know me, I get
into this kind of thing. It's gonna be like nineteen
ninety six for me all over again. I'm at the
Sherwood Club on the south Side, the under twenty one club,
which was just just debauchery. And then Alison, I have

(01:04:43):
no idea what to expect from you. It could be
a lap dance, it could be ballet. I have no idea.
You just said a dance.

Speaker 18 (01:04:49):
It could be both.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Kind of like to see that all right. So here's
what's gonna happen. Allison. You're gonna turn the music on.
I will walk behind Nigel's camera because that's a bet
dedicated shot. You don't have the light of a monument
circle behind you like I do. And we will pay
off this debt right now. Okay, Allison, hit the music?

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Alaha, bringha. It's better than yours, damn right, it's better
than yours. I could teach you, but I have to camera.
Oh dear God, yours, damn right is better than yours.
I could teach you that. You have to pull your
boxers out. Look at that.

Speaker 21 (01:05:30):
Everyone will look this wizzle even swinging your shown.

Speaker 14 (01:05:36):
Just get the perfect lend go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Switch your then next as Squid. Then he's the jump.
Is that the mocarat robot?

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
A robot from Allison?

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I don't know how I'm a man?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Wow, incredible, Allison. You got the milkshake robot. That's how
I get all that Arna. I just went to the yard, Yes, absolutely,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Know if you come to the autholes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yeah, you hammer pulled down his boxer his pants and
showed his boxers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I got to get the people what they want. That
people like the coupon, lady and and all on the
YouTube chat, You're welcome. I hope your ovaries will be
able to survive when I just present it to you.
But then for all the dudes, right, for all the dudes,
for the rogers, for the James who are commenting right now,

(01:06:40):
bravo Allison. I've never seen a transition from the macarena
to the robot before, but here we are.

Speaker 18 (01:06:46):
That was my PRAMA junior year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
That was incredible. That was incredible. Okay, somebody on the
YouTube chat, I think everybody is overlooking the perfectly timed
wink that Allison gave out a little wink for you guys.
You tease, look at you man. After that, I feel
like we need to have some legal stuff, crime punishment, judges,

(01:07:15):
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(01:07:36):
Make that call today, free consultation. What are you laughing
at watching the replay of you and Allison? Again?

Speaker 18 (01:07:43):
What are you laughing at?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Doing the dance. It's great, It's fantastic. Get to the
YouTube channel Hammer and Nigel two thousand, episode ninety three, WIBC.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Go watch that. Can I read you the text that
my wife sent me right uple? That was a credible
like personally, I've been dealing with a little bit of
an injury, like to my tailbone injury there. Well, it's
not quite the taint. It's tailbone. It's substantially different than
the taint starts. It starts with the t.

Speaker 12 (01:08:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
The coupon lady quote, don't you dare bleep up your
back on this bleeping twerking bleep. She's a delicate flower,
Crystal Hammer, thank you. Uh. Legal stuff here, President Trump
is considering reclassifying marijauanna to a less dangerous drug, potentially

(01:08:36):
changing the way that it's regulated. Nige. Now, for Indiana,
we've heard for years from Governor Holcombe to now Governor
Brawn that weed will not be legal like our surrounding
states until it's legal at the federal LEFE.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
When you say surrounding states, it's in Michigan, Illinois, Kentucky, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
They all have legal weed, some sort of legal weed,
whether it be medicinal or recreational, but Trump says he's
open to it. Reclassifying marijuana could lead to quote significant
tax savings for businesses and make it easier to conduct research.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Okay, I want everybody to look into some of these horror,
horrific stories that you've seen about parents and people murdering
and slaughtering there. Like I'm taking it here, guys, Like
all of this psychosis stuff involves cannabis. A lot of

(01:09:38):
this stuff that you see, a lot of this random
stuff that you see about people killing each.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Other involves this kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I'm not saying we don't need to, we don't need to,
you know, legalize it, but it happens, and it involves
psychosis resulting from the weed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I know the police departments, for the most part, maybe
not every officer, but for the most part here in
Indiana there against this, and that has a big poll
when it comes to Governor Braun. Like Governor Braun usually
listens to what the police department has to say, usually
not all the time, but usually. But I will say this,

(01:10:25):
if you start talking about it from a tax perspective,
and you start talking about ways you could bring in revenue,
if I'm governor Braun, And I'm looking at this saying,
all right, I really have to find a way to
lower property taxes. We kind of dropped the ball the
last time around. What if we promise to lower property taxes,

(01:10:46):
but we will legalize weed and try to find a
way for the state to capitalize on that. There go
your revenue sources. Right, the money you would have had
with property taxes now come from weed. I'd be all
right with that. I would. I have not smoked weed
since I was in college. But I do feel like

(01:11:08):
if the other states around us are making money on it,
why are we sitting here? Like why are we okay
with legalized gambling, legalized sports betting, booze on Sundays? But
yet this is the one vice we chose to give
a middle finger to. But I want it regulated. You
can't be smoking it outside, you can't be out of
Monument Circle at the five hundred festival parades, smoking it

(01:11:29):
around kids like they do in Vegas. You can't do that,
And you treat it like a duy. If you get
pulled over, if you get pulled over with a burning
j or if you test positive for weed. I don't
know how they test it, but if you test positive,
it's like a DUI. Would you be all right with that? Yeah,
of course I'd be all right with that. I look.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
According to a friend of the show, Alex Berenson, who
before COVID was a guy that was somebody that it's
against legal weed and the effects of cannabis, he's back
kind of on his horse on this h he's got
to pin to his Twitter. Annually, US er visits for

(01:12:12):
severe marijuana induced vomiting are both up fortyfold, Yes, forty
fold SINS twenty sixteen and now approach one hundred and
fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Okay, do we have the same numbers though for alcohol?
Do we have the same numbers for other vices? Like
how many people have killed themselves because of gambling?

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
No, that's a great question, that's a great I don't
have that right in front of me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Okay. So again, like I'm somebody that loves going to
Las Vegas, I'm mister Vegas. But man, it does think literally,
when you're trying to sit there outside and watch the
Belagio Fountain show and it's just nothing but weed smoke
coming into your face because there's no regulations on it
out in Vegas. It's sin City. I get that, I

(01:12:59):
know what I sign up for when I go there,
but I don't want that an endie. I want it legal,
but I don't want people outside at the monument at
the five hundred just blowing chiba smoke right in your face.
Oh no, I don't want that at all.

Speaker 8 (01:13:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
It is our two thousandth episode of The hammer In
Nigel Show. Here and all afternoon we've been doing some
of our favorite bits, favorite moments, and I think it's
the only thing that I'm going to miss about the
Joe Biden presidency, other than the over the top introduction
we used to do when we were checking in with
that old goat. It's a segment we can't do anymore

(01:13:37):
unless he starts going on the you know book tour scene.
The gibberish Man. Oh I missed doing the gibberish man.
Ill time. I'm a conversation with the gibberish.

Speaker 7 (01:13:49):
Man, jimper ish Man. He's the jibberish man. He talks jibberish,
jibberish man. You can't understand the jibber rich man as
he talks jibberish jibberish. Ladies and gentlemen, Please welcome shiverish Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Beer brewed here. It is used to make the crew.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Beer writer. Thanks for a great lady.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
As he talks, and jibber Rich gibber rich Man, I
have no idea what the hell that man said right there?
Ooh earth writer, thanks for the great lakes. Okay, Now
what we would also do with that bit, and here's
an example we're about to play here is we would
have the official White House transcript and we would have

(01:14:36):
our producer, whether it be Allison, whether it be Ari
or in this case producer Kyle read the transcript along
with Joe Biden. Oh yeah, he.

Speaker 7 (01:14:53):
Talks, gibber Rich gibberish Man. You can't understand as he talks,
and jibber Rich gibberis. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome shiverish Man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
You know NATO was formed out of the wreckage of
World War two, as we all know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Where war.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
You know it had be straight about it. Wars have
repeatedly riven the continent and Gulf world and conflicts, and
there's no way to avoid that if we were not together.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
She just gave up. We didn't even get any way
out of it. He just gave up. And stopped now
in case you couldn't hear, because we have a little
fun and when we put the music behind the jibbish Man.
This is the transcript. This is the official White House transcript. Kyle,
will you please read it? You know NATO was formed

(01:15:48):
out of wreckage of World War Two, as.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
We all know where war you know it had a look,
just be straight about it. Wars have repeatedly written in
the continent, engulf the world in conflicts and uh and
there's no way to avoid that if we're not together.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Okay. Now, for those who think we're being smart Alex
or whatever, I want you t k W to read
that same transcript along with Joe Biden.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
You know NADA was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Formed out of the record of the war.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
We were, you know we had Look, it's just be
straight about it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
There's there's no way to avoid that. We're not together.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Well done, t k U.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Great moments in gibberish Man history.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Are you really okay?

Speaker 9 (01:16:50):
Are you going to be okay?

Speaker 15 (01:16:55):
Are you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah, I'm fine.

Speaker 9 (01:16:58):
I'm pretty freaking far from Are you okay?

Speaker 16 (01:17:02):
With this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
On the hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Himmer we all know who Luke Brian is right at
the time of Luke Bryan to the top of his
game in terms of country music. Superstar are pal Jeff Boggs,
who wrote for David Letterman and you know, with a
producer out in Los Angeles living with various roommates throughout

(01:17:27):
the years, is a huge Luke Bryan fan.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
He goes to every show. He has a Luke Brian
crop toop.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Luke Bryan was asked what he thinks of people who
throws stuff at him while he's on stage. Here's his answer.

Speaker 14 (01:17:42):
When I'm sitting there singing and it comes into my frame,
obviously I flinched and it got me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
But then the problem with.

Speaker 14 (01:17:48):
It is is then it makes all of my family
members and friends that don't have all the social media
to go watch what actually happened. Then they call me
and then it turns into I got hit by a baseball.
My official statement is people throw things at artists and
their idiots, and it's the deterioration of the moral fabric

(01:18:10):
of how your assaw to act.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Are you okay with his attitude on people throwing things
artists on stage while they're performing?

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
No, I'm not because while On one hand, it seems
ridiculous if you throw something on the stage, But I
grew up with dudes like Motley Crue Van Halen. Do
you ever, at any point in your life remember Vince
Neil or David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar going, hey, guys,

(01:18:41):
calm down out there, maybe we shouldn't be so rowdy.
And the reason I say that is because look, Brian
in the past has complained about like a bra. A
chick literally took her bra off at a show and
threw it at him, and he was upset by it.
When someone.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
Kinda watch the face. Don't you hit me in the face.
This is something where your boobies were.

Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
Ew One girl down there goes, oh my, it wasn't me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Mine won't fit in them. We'll put it with the others.
Your boobies were in ned brawl boobies ewo. Like could
you imagine at any point somebody like James Headfield or

(01:19:44):
Vince Neil or David Lee Roth going hey, ladies, we
needed to keep your tops on out there, keep your
panties on your person, and don't take your braws off, right,
do not throw them on stage. The same speech we
had to give to Alison when she started this show.

Speaker 15 (01:20:02):
I wanted to get off right now. But go to
the window, open it, stick your head out and.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
Yell, I'm with mag as Hell and I'm not tying
tight kiss anymore.

Speaker 16 (01:20:13):
And now're a Nigel Joe off the Rails with Rob Christian.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
My name is Nigel Chasen. Hammer is here also joining
us live at studio Rob Kendall from the award winning
Kendall and Casey Show. Rob here to go off the rails.
How are you great?

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Thanks as always to our segment sponsor Garage Doors of Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Two thousand episodes of The Hammer and Nigel Show, Rob,
and congratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
I mean I so vividly remember going to see you
guys at Coaches Tavern. Yeah, you know a part of
that with you guys, you guys stayed at It was
such a great bar cast and it's so awesome that
I only did you get the gig, but for what
basically eight years now, you got on the top of the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
World and you've been a part of it, right, You've
been a part of it. You were there show, you
were there, Like that's what kind of blows people's minds
because like we we all just bust each other's balls, right,
We rip each other. That's kind of how I think
normal dudes communicate. And when I say yeah, Rob's a
friend of mine, like he used to come to our
shows and we'd all do that basically for free, it

(01:21:12):
blows their minds, like, well, I just heard you say
he had little man syndrome the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Well, you guys, And one of the things you guys
have done so well is you created your own world
orbit with the Hammer and Nigel bar cast.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
And we created our own gig.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Yeah, and you guys elevated so many people, Like a
big reason I ended up here was because of you
guys and bouging for me. And so it's our fast
all the people and the fun people, and it's just
it's so awesome that you guys two thousand episodes and
number one and congratulations and you've been a part of
it too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yes, so thank you as much. We posted on social
media earlier what's been your favorite bit or favorite thing
that we do, and a couple of people said off
the rails like I love you to get Rob fired
up in the vein and the next six Well, you know,
for me, it's a loud nudu. That be an all
time classic. Speaking of Yeah, there's a little controversy in

(01:22:07):
the Attorney General's office right now, Lieutenant governor. I'm sorry,
Lieutenant governor.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yeah, I mean there's always there is if you want
to fink about attorney general too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Lieutenant Governor's office, Micah Beckwott's office, this is where the
controversy is. There was a reporter, Tom Tom Lobianco that, uh,
he had sources tell him they were in there watching
some sort of a I porn video featuring an Indiana
House Rep's wife. Now, I don't know if the video exists.

(01:22:36):
I don't know, But what I do know is there
is an investigation into this. Rob You've been kind of
at the forefront of all of this kind of stuff.
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Yeah, Micah, But the investigation, of course, there was an
investigation Mike did over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Right Yeah, Yeah, Micha.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
I hired Forensics r US to come in and do
a one day weekend investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Look, if we don't fight a scandal, your pizza is free. Look,
Michaeh would.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Micah, Micah wouldn't know the truth of it smacked him
right between the junks. So you can't take anything that
guy says. Series nobody believes he did some sort of
deep investigation in it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Where did the breakup happen? All right, So before we
get to the AI porn and the investigation, don't you
and Micah used to be bosom buddies. You were dressing
up as women living together like Tom Hanks and Peter Skill,
Lauri and now congratulations the five people they got the
bosom buddy. I got it, I got it. But now
you guys are like just at each other's throat. Yeah,

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And I don't like it. I don't like to see it. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
You know, I text Micael from time to time just
because you know, I like him if he's a nice guy.
I don't, you know, agree with some of the stuff
with the property tax. But I don't like seeing you
two because you were the one that kind of brought
him into the fold.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah. I don't like it either.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
He lies about everything I mean, And it culminated with
how he ended up at Game three the NBA Finals
with a high profile known felon with a twenty year
rap sheet and he can't tell a coherent or consistent
story on that caught him in numerous lies, caught him
on our show personally all that guys, you can't talk
to the guy anymore, and you're seeing.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
It play out here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Nobody believes that he did some thorough investigation in one
day on a weekend, and he wasn't like, you know,
we'll look into it. More like he made a definitive statement.
We investigated, we cleared these guys, and he is now
allowed what is this day thirteen or fourteen lost track
now of guys who are not only you know, workers
in his office, but personal friends of his and hardcore

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supporters of his. And we're led to believe that he
has this investigation that totally clears these guys and he's
just sat on it for thirteen or fourteen days. If
that's true, he's not only.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
A crappy boss, he's a crappy friend. I told Nige
this the other day. If hog Set had came out
and said, I've done an internal investigation and I've done
nothing wrong. Thomas Carl Cook was a good dude and
those chicks were asking for it, we all would have
been like, no, this is unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Yeah, absolutely, So Mike needs to show proof of what
investigation did you do. Who'd you bring in? Was it
state police? Was it IMPD, was it forensics r US
like we said, or was that your church buddies that
you've surrounded yourself with. That's all I want to see.
Tell me what the investigation was, because if lobby and
uncle's lying about these guys, they should sue him for

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everything he has, right, absolutely, And one of the guys,
an attorney that's alleged to be involved with this, is
an attorney, so he wouldn't have to pay an attorney.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
They could just sue the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
But when I say there's an investigation going on, I'm
not talking about the internal investigation because those are always crap.
But we've got at least reports that the prosecutor's office
is involved here. The husband of his chief of staff
mentioned a grand jury in a Facebook post. Yeah he
stop embarrassing your wife, beligious, I believe was the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Quote direct quote, Yes to Mike's chief of staff's husband. Yes,
he stooged himself and said there was a grand jury investigation.
And then Abdul yesterday and Arbro I heard that said
there was a grand jury investigation. Now Duel said, the
grand jury investigation is not only about the AI porn allegations,
but it's also a litany of other things.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
So in the Lieutenant Governor's office, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
What Abdul said.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
So you know, we'll see look, show.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Me the goods man like, like, where's this video? Where's
this Misterday's video? And I know what you're gonna say,
because people in the chat say the same thing. It's
not like Ryan Memers is just going to like put
it out there on the internet if there is indeed
this video, right, the prosecutor ever would say, now, here's
all the evidence I have and give you a day
by day. When Rudy Guliani took down the mob, he
didn't come out every day and go here's what we

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got on Gotti today. You wait until the charging decision
is made and put it out.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Look, I don't know whether these guys did this or not.
What I do know is I talk to someone who
is cooperating with the authorities, and if they're lying, they're
in a whole different world of trouble. They're not just
lying to me who told me in great detail how
they witnessed the video and the circumstances by which they
witnessed it, and they are telling that story to the authorities,

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so that person is lying. Like I said, there are
a whole heap of trouble, because that's way bigger than lying.

Speaker 7 (01:27:04):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
And by the way, the guy that wrote the article,
say his name again, Lebianco, Lobianco named the individuals.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Yeah, like he named names in that article. They either
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
They should sue him for everything he has because it
essentially said they may have been committing a crime because
both at a state level and a federal level. Now
you can be charged with this stuff. Now, look, it's
gonna take a while, but neither's a grand jury. That's
a whole different animal. That's way bigger than just the
Marion County Prosecutor's office looking into this. But the point
is Micah claims to have the silver bullet that can

(01:27:40):
set these guys free, and he's just sitting on it
for two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
I don't believe that for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
And I would be on the rooftops claiming my innocence
after an article like that. Somebody names me in an
article and says I did something like that and I
didn't do it. I would be, you know, screaming from
the hilltops.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Innocent.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
But Micah is the same guy who can't tell a
coherent or consistent story on how he ended up at
Game three of the NBA Finals with Diego and a
high profile known felon.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
That's why had to cut him off. That's why there's
the beef.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
The guy lies, He's a habitual liar, and I can't
deal with it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
So I'm not one of these believe all women people,
or believe all allegations people. I'm not because I've seen
trefor Bauer get rail roaded. I've seen the Duke lacrosse
kids get rail roaded. What's your response, Rob when you
see people going on social media saying there's no tape,
You've got no proof. This is just a witch hunt
because you're mad at Micah because of what happened with

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property taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Why don't have anything to do with any of it? Right,
I didn't release the story. I'm not a part of
the Marion County Prosecutor's office. I'm not a part of
this supposed grand jury. I'm reporting the news as it's
coming out. I don't have anything to do with any
of this. The only thing I've done is talk to
someone who is cooperating with authorities who claims to have
seen the video and described the circumstances in which they
saw the video. And I, by the way, I one

(01:28:58):
hundred percent support these guys. If they didn't do it,
they should sue Labyanco. I one hundred percent support that.
But I also support Micah because he made a definitive
statement about this investigation showing the proven by the way,
he's gonna have to show it anyway, because there's all
sorts of four YE requests about it, public information requests
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
And just to reiterate you, by listening to that conversation
you had with Abdul yesterday, this goes beyond looking into
some AI stuff too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
It sounds like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
According to Abdul, and again Mike's chief of staff's husband appeared.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
To stooge on it, to stooge and say.

Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
That it was out there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Now he's tried to word salad his way out of that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
That guy started dragging our names through this, ours being WIBC.
So again, this isn't really what we're supposed to be
talking about. But like this moron, this husband of the
chief of staff of Micah is going on social media
all the hosts of WIBC are bought and paid for
by George Sore.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
You want to check my bank account and I ain't
got no Soros money in there, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
I heard what I've said about Ryan Niars, and Joe
Hogg said, do you think a bought and paid for
stooge of George Soros would get away with that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Look, you guys interviewed Braun the other day, and I'm
loaded to say anything nice about Braun, but in this case,
the guy just sounds exhausted. With my kid, it's not
politically you disagree with the guy politically, it's that he
runs that office like a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Third grader, like it's just you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
And then, like a great example, Capitol Chronicle on numerous
occasions catches the office being closed right they they correspond
with the at the time, the communications director. He appears
to confirm the office was indeed closed on those days.
And then Micah, no, the office is you know, the
office isn't closed. They were right there, they walked up

(01:30:44):
to the door, it would shut, the lights were out.

Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
That seems pretty freaking close to me. That's what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:30:51):
It.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
That's how we go off the rails.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
We agree on a lot, but I'm on the opposite
side here because I'm a very petty, vindictive man.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
You are, and I told that huzz I said the
wrong guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
If you think you are a lunatic, get on the
cross side of me. How'd that work out for Channel thirteen? Wow?
I didn't really know they had a gambling scandal on cancer,
but now you do.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Uh hey.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
So when it comes to redistricting, jerry mandering, all that
kind of crap, I'm an eye for an eye guy, right,
Do I think it's dirty? Sure? But if the Republicans
don't do it and they act like I'm mister moral,
I'm mister high ground, the Democrats are going to go
that's very noble, and they're gonna do the same thing
and gonna screw you every single time for years here,

(01:31:39):
let me finish ut off on me. For years, I
was tired of seeing the Republicans be the nice guys
that got kicked in the crotch. And finally, to quote
you and Jefferson at the Revenge of the Nerds, you
nerds are finally fighting back. Like That's where I'm at
with the whole redistrict thing. You can either be noble
and get your ass with or fight fire with fire

(01:32:02):
and do the same thing that California and Illinois been
doing for years.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Okay, so let's just admit that our society is a
giant game of whose line is in any way where
the game's made up and the rules don't matter, right,
I mean, that's what we're doing at this point because
at least Texas can kind of go, well, we had
five million people move in. We have to do this.
Indiana isn't even trying to come up with some excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
You're okay with what Texas is doing. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
We have a census every ten years and people are saying, well,
the illegal aliens in California this time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
The court has ruled on that. When Trump was president,
that went to the court. Now there's a new court.
Now maybe the new Supreme Court Cony Barrett's on there.
Maybe she would rule differently. I don't know, but the
point is they've ruled on this. We're basically saying all
the elections are rigged, there's no point in voting. And
I just think that's disgusting that Mike Brown would not

(01:32:52):
call a special session for property taxes he told you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Guys this, he told Tony this. Oh, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
A waste of time and be an effort in futility,
blah blah blah. But yet when it comes to rigging
the elections for his party for one seat in Congress,
he'll call the special session. But when millions of people
are trying to afford to stay in their homes, it's pointless.
Like what a disgusting thing to set Well, I'm not
saying it's not disgusting. I'm just saying it is what
it is. Had this been a Democrat state and they

(01:33:18):
would have done the same thing. Man, elections have consequences,
I'd have to bend over and take it up to
tell pipe like these folks in ILLINOI have to So.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Why do we even have congressional districts?

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Like what I mean, what like the premise of this
is they're supposed to be representative of the of the
people of the constituency. Though, you know, like I just
I'm so sick of all of this. I'm sick of Newsome,
I'm sick of what they're trying to do in Texas.
I'm sick that JD. Vance is coming here trying to
basically strong arm these people into doing this. I mean
the Flanders boys, Rod and Todd. They look like they'd

(01:33:48):
seen it ghost when they walked out of that meeting.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Look, I'm just not good like anytime those guys are
uncomfortable and Angel gets its way.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Yeah, but here's the thing, what do we even get
if there's one more Republican?

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
What happened with the big.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Bullcrap bill, More legalized vote buying, more deficit, more adding
to the national debt, more crony capital.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Let'll tell you what the way to fix the national
debt is by listening to our latest podcast, Degenerates next Door.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
What do we got today?

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Boy, We're going to do college futures and you and
I are going to talk about how stupid it is
to bet on some kid who when you see him
on the sidelines, you go, I risked my mortgage on
that guy, and I do it every Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
What's coming up tomorrow? Lopez? Go to be it for Casey.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
She's out of town, so well, we'll do something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Wild and wacky. That's fancy talk for I don't know idea.
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Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
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