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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
So let.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hammer.

Speaker 4 (00:07):
I'm still trying to work it out in my head
how I feel about this. Washington Posts report on the
late Colts owner Jim Ersay wa PO, citing several interviews
with five different anonymous sources that have direct knowledge of Ursay,
claimed that Ersay spent the last two years of his
life in the throes of relapse, and he and the

(00:27):
Colts executives repeatedly hid him from the public. Ertha ended
up dying, as you remember, make twenty first of this year,
at a luxury hotel in Beverly Hills, California. I wasn't
aware that was in California. That's where he died. So,
and the reason I'm having trouble deciding on you know,
how I feel about this. Is this something that the
family wanted kept private? Is this something that we needed

(00:51):
to know? It's a private matter, is it not.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I feel like I can see both sides here. I
feel like you're where I am. Like, if this were
my father, I'd kind of want to keep things under wraps.
But at the same time, when you've got a stadium
that's over here that is funded by taxpayer money. I
feel like the taxpayer has some sort of responsibility of

(01:18):
knowing what's going on with your investment. Does that make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I'm wondering if the author of this, this reporter, is
getting any backlash. And I really like, honestly, if I
didn't want to know about it, then I wouldn't have
read it. True, Okay, so I could partially, partially, partially
be called a hypocrite almost for even asking the question.
But there's some ugly stuff in here. There is, sir,

(01:42):
and the guy that wrote the story.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
One of the guys is going to be joining us
a little bit after four o'clock today. He is a
writer with the Washington Post. He's going to be calling in.
But just so we're all on the same page here.
Some of the information in this report from the Washington
host say that Ersay's relapse and death came as he
was being treated by a recovery doctor who was prescribing

(02:08):
him opioids and eventually ketamine at amounts that were worrying
people close to him. Now, I don't know if that's family,
I don't know if that's you know, inner circles of
the Indianapolis Colts or what. But that's from the Washington Post.
They also say they have evidence that Ersay suffered three

(02:29):
overdoses in the final five years of his life. Now,
we had kind of heard about the one that took
place in his Carmel home a couple of years ago,
found him on the floor, right, He did an interview
with HBO talking about that. But there were two other ones.
The Washington Post reports that there was a situation in

(02:50):
Turks and Kekos back in twenty twenty wow, and the
Carmel home in December of twenty twenty three, and then
twelve days later, after the Carmel home incident, at a
Florida resort twelve days later. Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
When the Washington Post says the throes of relapse, they
mean it correct. That's a long list, you just spout
it off right there.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Here's a little bit more of a specific breakdown. In
early January twenty twenty four, the cult said that Jim
Mersey was being treated for a severe respiratory illness. We
all remember that, right, Oh yeah. In the story today,
the Post reports that twelve days after that incident at
the Carmel home, Jim Irsay was rushed from a resort

(03:42):
near Miami after another overdose. This is according to US sources.
To the wallpo Ursy was eventually flown to St. Vincent
Hospital here in Indy, where he spent almost four months
recovering from that overdose. So in the last handful of
years of his life, three major I guess you could

(04:05):
call them overdoses, but certainly health scares for Jim Ersay.
The article goes on, when Ersay returned home from the
spring of twenty twenty four, an addiction specialist based in
California continued to prescribe him opioid painkillers. This was worrisome

(04:25):
for the inner circle of Jim Irsay, seems strange. And
then the same guy and they name his name, Harry Howitton.
Then and I'm probably butchering his last name, began prescribing
Ersay ketamine. And this is the scary part, Nige. And
I heard Ryan Hedrick talking about this earlier when he
went on with Rob Kendall. Ryan not only a great

(04:48):
part of her WIBC newsroom, but he's part of the
Supporting Sobriety podcast with Matt Bher. In the final months,
Ersay got ketamine injections as often as ten to fourteen
times a day and kind.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Of mean it could be used for several different things,
mental health conditions, pain management, anesthetic and medical procedures. It
could help you come off some of the other opioids
that you're addicted to, right as a substitute.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
For comparison, though, friend star Matthew Perry, who battled that
at the time of his death he was receiving six
to eight of those shots a day, the wappos reporting
Jim Ursay was doing ten to fourteen of those a day.
So again, this was a story that broke earlier this morning,

(05:41):
and I think the reason people are interested in this
story is that it goes against what we kind of
thought about the way this thing played out. I think
we all knew Jim Mersey was battling some demons, and
the incident in his carbal home, maybe that was it.
I had no idea about the Turks and Caicos. I

(06:02):
had no idea about the Florida twelve days later. I
had no idea. It was ten to fourteen shots per day.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
And when he did appear in public, it was man.
He didn't look sixty five years old. He looked twice
his age, right, right, and I hate saying that. I'm
just trying to give you a context of what he
was going through. Corral that this report has been published.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I have not heard a response from the Indianapolis
Colts yet. If they put something out, I'll be more
than happy. And it passed that along to you. But yeah,
this was a big deal and a lot of people
they're kind of at that crossroads where we're at Nige.
One point of view is that man, the guy's dead,

(06:44):
leave him alone. What are you guys doing? Respect the family.
But then there's the other side, the business side, that says,
this family may have a lied to you and covered
something up, and this is a family that's receiving some
taxpayer money to fund the stadium. I understand both sides.
I really do. Like if that were my father, I

(07:05):
would not want that stuff out there. But my father
is different. My father didn't have a stadium built without
a public figure. Correct. Absolutely, And after four oh six,
one of the writers of this story will join us
on this program and Happier News Nightge before we hit
a break here, let's get some happy news the fine

(07:27):
folks at there. I ruined it. One of my favorite
social media follows out there there I ruined it. It's
a site where they take popular songs and mix them
in a way that ruined it. Do you remember the
song last Resort by Papa Roach?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, of course you life and two pieces, this is
my last resort.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
They turned that into a fun song for preschool children.
Would you like to hear it? No?

Speaker 5 (08:12):
If somebody would tell me, now, aren't we in a
better mood?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Don't we feel better now? No?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Not at all, quite the opposite. Actually, a man in
this show fired me up when I was a kid.
The theme song, especially when it would start a man

(08:49):
who does not exist. Night Writer, It's time for yet
another story about a night Rider movie in the works.
Creators of Cobra Kai pas to see You Liked, You Loved,
You Loved Cobra Kai. They are said to be produced
in the big screen take on this eighty show let's
starred David Hasselhoff. I don't think David Hasselhoff will be

(09:12):
in the current Night Writer. Maybe he'll make him a cameo.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
We should be.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I was gonna say, yeah, you make a brand new,
all new, you know, souped up twenty twenty five remake
or a redo of night Writer.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
You gotta have David Hasselhoff. Maybe he could get a
voice of Kit. Well, that's very awesome, that's right. But
we've been here before.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
In twenty seventeen, it was supposed to get a star
John Cena and Kevin Hart. Then in twenty twenty, the
director of that movie Saw and the Conjuring was supposed
to make one.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
We'll see. I don't know. Those are two vastly different
reasons of night Writer, like a wacky buddy comedy with
John Cena and Kevin Hart, and then from the producers
of Saul and the Conjuring.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Good Lord, did you know when they brought the TV
series back in two thousand and eight the major star
was the voice of the car Kit.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I didn't know they brought the series back. It brought
it back.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
They brought back in two thousand and eight. What major
star was the voice of the car? Oh, I've no Kilmer?
Val all right, I didn't know they brought it back
in eight either. It must have not have lasted too long. No,
But I like Val Kilmer. I thought Val Kilmer was
always strong and everything that he was. Here's my question,
and I think it's a valid one, and it makes sense.

(10:39):
There are self driving cars now that talk to you.
That's what Kit was, right, That's what back that he
was a self driving car. Now, I don't think he
had like, you know, boosters, you know, ejection seats like
a James Bond car. Yeah, like you hit booster and
it jumps like ten feet in the air. But our

(11:00):
is Kit even a big deal anymore? So guys like
me is?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Man?

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I remember seeing my mom and dad took me to
a car show down at the Convention Center and they
had night Rider there, and they had a guy somewhere
with a microphone, right, and I was able to get in.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And talk to Kit. Oh that's cool, and he would
talk back as a little kid. Some dude in the
back corner. He's smoking a heater. Hey, he's got a
coffee in his hand. Here comes this fat little kid
from Liston. No. That's awesome though, But you're right, has
the novelty worn off? Like what's special about night Rider now?

(11:38):
Because I could go pretty much anywhere in Indianapolis and
find a car that can talk and self drive, Like
that's not new anymore. I mean, I think it's even
more impressive than self driving is self parallel parking right,
how they hear it, you know, how they pull that off.

(12:00):
But car movies, man like gear heads, they show up.
We could sit here and laugh all these Fast and
the Furious movies. Do we really need part nineteen where
it's just a hologram of you know, the blonde guy.
But I'm telling you, when they pump those things out,
people flock to the box office. And that's why we
need another one of these.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't know if people are going to flock to
the box office for night Rider. Will they flock to
Netflix though? Will they flock to Amazon Prime or Hulu
if you put a decent series out there, if they
make it a series. And I don't know if that's
what they're doing or not, But like Cobra Kai was
a series. Man, people love the bench stuff. You can
say binge watching is not a real thing. It's a

(12:41):
made up marketing term. Maybe, But I get pretty excited
if I get into a show and I can just
sit down and watch episode after episode that was so cool.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
How night Rider Kit like they'd be following along that
big black semi and the door would come down on
the back of the semi and Kit would ride into it.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
That was like its headcore, right, and our pal Brian Baker,
he was like one of the guys that would do
those stunts. Now, I don't know if he did that stunt,
but he was a car stunt man for TV shows
in Hollywood for a long time. So when you would
see these people doing these fast and the furious, cool stunts,
it's usually the stunt guy, not the actor. Two of

(13:19):
my favorite shows, maybe even three. Three of my favorite
shows when I was a kid involved cars, Dukes, oh Yard,
although my my statistic parents would make me go to
bed halfway through because it was a school night. How
dare they? Now? You see the way I turned up.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Villain Origin story, night Rider, and then I guess this
probably doesn't count, but eighteen I liked the black van
with the big stripe on it.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, those are three of my favorites when I was
a kid. Man that's strong. That's a strong. Lifetime nighttime lineups.
Is David Hasselhoff known for night Rider or Baywatch? Oh Man?
Two different eras?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
If I did a family feud style survey on Monument Circle,
people of all ages, all colors, and said, David Hasselhoff
best known for I think it's going to be about
fifty to fifty. Now. German folks may come on there
and say, phenomenal singer. But I think everybody else would
be like either Maywatch or night Rider. I would think

(14:25):
bay Watch. I would think right now, Baywatch would edge
out night Rider.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
It was Baywatch was in the nineties, right, that was
early nineties, right. It didn't it didn't bleed over spill
back into the eighties, did it.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I can't know. I think it was all nineties. Yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna go say be Baywatch. And Baywatch was in
a lot more reruns. Like those other little channels, the
cable channels, they all had syndication Baywatch. I don't recall
seeing syndication night Rider. Maybe there was, but I think
Baywatch is one you guys jump in, go to the

(15:01):
WIBC YouTube page, or tweet at us, go to Facebook, Instagram.
When you're talking Hoff David Hasselhoff, German folks, you can
set this one out because I know what your answer is.
But everybody else David Hasselhoff, is he Michael Knight from
Night Writer? Or is he Mitch Maywatch? As my mom

(15:22):
would say, I always had to tell my mom Baywatch
His name isn't Mitch Baywatch. The name of the show
is Baywatch. His name is Mitch. I know, but Baywatch
isn't his last name. Mom, and she would fight me
and yell and melt down Mitch Baywatch, Fine, you win,
that's his name. Vince says, not a car, but equally
is cool. Don't forget about Airwolf helicopter. Yeah right, schopper.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
He spells it wolf as he's like he's barking in
the chat. But that's okay, I know, I know what
show you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Love me some Herewolf as well. And on the YouTube
chat says she remembers the Hoff eating Wendy's off the floor.
There's that version as well.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
It was some good drunk food that was hitting the
spot for all off. We've been there, man, yeah, we've
all been there. You can make fun of the Hoff
all you want, but at some point in our life
we've had that feeling of being drunk and just making
a mess. He was showing that Burger shirtless on the floor,
disappointing the hell out of his daughter. And then my mom,

(16:30):
did you see that video of Mitch may Watch laying
on the floor. It's the hammer of Nigel Show.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, still having trouble processing what happened in Minnesota yesterday,
the school shooting at the church where the kids were praying.
Two kids, the two young children shot to death as
they were praying, and hammer. We have this growing trend
of these school shooters who were also transgender.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, I mean the list here. This isn't just a
few isolated we're cherry picking incidents here, This is a trend. Denver, Aberdeen, Nashville, Georgia, Philadelphia,
all trans, Uvalde, Colorado, Minnesota, all trans, Iowa shooter gender fluid.

(17:24):
But yet you turn on CNN, MSNBC or listen to
politicians in Minnesota talk and they think it's redneckt with
ar fifteens that are the problem. Maybe you look at
these chemicals that are getting pumped into these people and
dive into why they're snapping pumped into these people that

(17:46):
are in a very fragile state in life, young confused,
having these feelings gender dysphoria. Yeah, you're right, puberty blockers
and hormones, and that is a question that needs to
be answered.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
And there's been a big push in society, specifically from
the political left in this country to chastise you if
you have concerns about that, how dare you question the
trans people? Trans people are people too. You leave them alone.
It's okay to ask why they feel that way or

(18:22):
how can you get them help? I thought Jesse Waters
last night, Friend of the Show, Jesse Waters, Fox News
has always been really good to this program. His monologue
last night to open up the show I thought was
some of his best work.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
Just two years ago, another trans twenty something walked into
a Christian school in Nashville with a rifle and shot
three kids in three adults. They buried the manifesto and
locked down the case. We've seen trans shootings in Colorado
and in Maryland. They even shot up an ice facility
in Texas, and it seems like half of Antifa's trans

(18:57):
A couple of day them's just got popped for firebombing Tesla's.
The mayor of Minneapolis says, you can't say.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
That anybody who is using this as an using this
as an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any
other community out there, has lost their sense of common humanity.
We should not be operating out of a place of hate.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
I don't hate anyone who thinks they're trans. I feel
sorry for them, but statistically, the trans population has been
prone to violence. That's not villainizing, that's reality. And if
you can't recognize reality, you're in danger. We love the
American people, especially American children, and if they're troubled and
believe they're somehow a girl trapped in a boy's body, we.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Want to get them help.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
We don't want to give them hormones and operate on them.
Society shouldn't be trying to produce more trans kids. We
shouldn't be encouraging an emotional disorder or whatever this is,
and doctors should stop profiting from it.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I thought that was very well said.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I mean, there's nothing wrong. It doesn't mean I hate
trans people. If I'm just asking the questions and looking
at these lists of these shooters and saying, wait a minute,
something's off here, it doesn't mean I hate the community. Right,
I'm not allowed to ask.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Right, because it's a trend at this point. Right, it
is a trend. And in Minnesota, they brought this to
the governor's attention back in twenty twenty three, not just
trans kids, but schools in general, private schools in Minnesota.
Two years ago went to Governor Tim Walls and said,
we need to fund more security in schools. Now, keep

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in mind, at this time, the state of Minnesota had
a huge surplus of budget money. But tampon Tim Governor
Walls said no, we're not going to have extra security
in our schools. Instead, he focused on taking that money
and making it a sanctuary area, not just for trans
but for pretty much anybody that wants to get away

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with something. It's a sanctuary city in Minneapolis. That's where
he decided to spend the money that the schools in
that area asked, Hey, could we get a little extra
security here. We're a little concerned about some of the
radicalization that's going on, and serious question, why do we
know more about shooters like this, not just this incident,

(21:24):
but pretty much any school shooting. Why do we know
more about the Robin Westman's of the world than we
do Thomas Matthew Crooks, the dude who shot President Trump,
was on top of a building and had Donald Trump
not turned to look at a jumbo screen message would
have assassinated him. Like, why do we know more about

(21:47):
this guy?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Why?

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I mean, you remember you go back to that day
and there's footage. There's people actually have their iPhones out
on this guy on top of the roof, yelling for
the police, pointing at this guy. But he's doing anything right,
And only after does he start firing do the counter
snipers blow this guy away. I mean, it's unbelievable. I

(22:12):
don't I mean, you could apply this to the Vegas.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Shooter as well, right, one hundred percent spot on and listen.
Last night I went down a rabbit hole. I read
his suicide note. I read some of the manifesto. I
watched some of the videos that were pulled down from
his official YouTube chat that are still out there. People
have saved them. So I spent about forty minutes last

(22:37):
night watching and reading all of this stuff. This is
a disturbed individual. But nudge again. Last night I had videos,
I had photos. I knew what was written on the guns.
I knew what he felt about children. I knew what
he told his family. The guy that tried to kill
President Trump, we know nothing, nothing at all.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
One of the headline I'm looking at here from aol Minneapolis.
Minneapolis school shooter Robert Westman confessed that he was quote
tired of being trans I wish I never brainwashed myself.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
His writings were really weird, so they were all over
the place. Yeah, at one point he says, I wish
I didn't have this cancer. Now I don't believe he
had cancer, but he said so in like a farewell
note that he left to his family. So this guy
was clearly out of his mind all over the place.
But like Jesse said, get the guy help. How can

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we help people who are feeling like this? How can
we make it so they don't want to shoot innocent
children in the head and take their lives. Does it
make you a bad guy for asking about that? And
the way the Minnesota mayor of Minneapolis treated people yesterday
giving you a lecture, even thought that there was some

(24:01):
sort of issue with the trans community. But just crapping
all over you. If you set thoughts and prayers that
rubbed me the wrong way yesterday.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Oh the thoughts and prayers thing that had that sent
me over the edge. We don't want your thoughts and prayers.
It's not what do you want then? Right like you
want gun control, you want to be a gun grabber.
Thoughts and prayers are a way of being of conveying grievance. Right,
I guess conveying emotion, conveying condolences.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Condolences, Yes, that's the word I was looking for. Yeah,
there's nothing wrong with it. Nobody's saying it's the perfect solution.
But Jensaki pulled that crap last night, like, what laws
do you want because it's not realistic to say ban
all weapons. Well, guess what if you ban all weapons,
bad guys will still find a way to be bad guys.

(24:53):
Murder has been banned, but guess what this lunatics shot
two kids in the head, shot a lot more people.
Luckily they lived. Had it not been a gun, it
would have been a bomb. Had it not been a bomb,
it would have been a knife or a fire or
something bad. People that are motivated will do bad things.
It's not about the weapon, it's about the person. Why

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do they feel like they have to murder children? And
why is this trend of major shooters that have all
been trans Why is this happening? How do we get
these people help? Those are the conversations we need to have.
Missus Alison, I believe we have some legal stuff, so
please have the Attorney General of the State of Indiana

(25:37):
kick us off.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Legal stuff, crime, punishment, judges.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Legal stuff, legal stuff. I need you to follow me here.
Nige is a lot going on dateline, Wisconsin. Forty five
year old dude got eighty nine days in jail this week.
The dad from Wisconsin who faked his own death and
then abandoned his wife and kids to go be with

(26:05):
his mistress in Eastern Europe. Oh, my dear lord, he
must have really hated his family. He agreed to a
plea deal that would have locked him up for forty
five days, but the judge rejected it. They uped it
to eighty nine days because that's how long he made
his family think that he was dead. He staged his

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kayak in a lake Wow, paddled an inflatable raft to shore,
rode that bad boy seventy miles. He rode an rode
seventy miles on an e bike, took a bus to
Detroit and then Toronto, hopped three flights to Paris, Asia,

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and then Europe. It was far away from this current
family I have as possible. It turned out he'd been
talking to some woman from Who's Bekistan that he'd met online.
Police eventually found out that he got a new passport,
took out a three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
life insurance policy and reversed his vasectomy so he could

(27:11):
start a new family with the Uzbekistanian mistress.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's a pretty big risk you're taking. You're chatting and
falling in love online with the Usbeka, someone from Uzbekistan,
right the uh that's a that's a big risk.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Authorities finally tracked him down in the country of Georgia.
They sent him back to the United States and this
make him as a shock to unage. His wife of
twenty two years has now filed for divorce. Don't you
don't say? You don't say? Not clear if the mistress

(27:49):
is still in the picture or not. I don't know
what's going on. But if you ever have an Uzbekistanian
chick slide into your DMS, run run, ignore it and
let's crak up a little. Damn nature, You scary ham
Nigel Hill. Do you suppose won't meet any wild animals?

Speaker 10 (28:11):
The water clams, the dingo ain't your baby?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And now hummer Nigel proudly presents.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Damn nature, you're scary ryans and tigers.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Back to school time around the country. Kiddo's getting on
the buses and heading into the school yard. Unfortunately, in Ashland, Massachusetts,
there were a lot of yellow jackets around the kids
who and uh shortly after nine am, something kicked off

(28:46):
the group of yellow jackets. At about forty kids were stung.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
You don't want to do that. You don't want to
make a yellow jacket mad. No, you don't even want
to irritate it. Don't You don't even want to just
slightly annoy a yellow jacket. Here is a local tea
in Boston.

Speaker 11 (29:01):
Students getting off the bus outside of school Wednesday morning,
unknowingly disturbed in underground Bee's nest.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
A lot of kids were stough.

Speaker 11 (29:09):
The school's nursing staff and first responders began treating forty
students and a couple teachers.

Speaker 12 (29:15):
We a shocking number to have at once. Like I said,
they were all inside. Most of them had localized reactions.
We had a couple of students probably four to five stings.

Speaker 11 (29:25):
Ashlynd Fire Chief Keith Roby says, they're just thankful no
one had a severe reaction, so.

Speaker 12 (29:29):
Nobody was transported to the hospital. All the parents were
contacted by the principal.

Speaker 11 (29:33):
Exterminators were also called in to get rid of the
nest cones now surrounding that area near the pickup line.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Anybody to here been stung by a yellow jacket or
a wasp or something.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I've been stung by a wasp. Ooo really hurts. Oh
damn was it just a single one? Or did you
do disturb a nest single one? Oh? That sucks. I've
never been stung by anything like that. Anybody that's played
football tell me if you've had this happen. This is
back in high school. You get down in your stance right,

(30:05):
and you got your quarterback and he's barking out the signals,
you know, Blue forty two, like going through all the
Peyton Manning stuff right. Well, you can't move out of
your stance. But then I saw a wasp get on
my forearm, and I was like, oh crap, snap the ball.
Snapped the ball. I could only smack it off and
continue playing. But damn it, Bob back. Bob wouldn't shut

(30:27):
the hell up, and Pike, he's still up there barking omaha,
and I got stung by a freaking wasp.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
On my arm.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
At least you didn't get the penalty right for moving
right false start. Show's getting stung over having a penalty
for a false start. But no, it's not pretty man.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I have never been stung by anything like that. The
most unusual thing, though, was I was floating out in
the Gulf of America, you a year or two ago,
on a raft, and I'm just sitting out there and
all of a sudden, I feel a sharp sting and
the crevice of my elbow where I bend, and there's

(31:08):
a bee out there, and it stung me. The hell
was he doing out there? He landed in the Gulf
of America and stung me. I'm like a little bastard.
He chased you out there, he wanted a piece.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
It hurt, Like, how the hell? How does that happen?
How do you make it? I was pretty far out too.
How far was he willing to go to chase you
just to give you a little justice? Pretty far?

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Well, the justice was mine because I ended up smashing
the crap out of the guy and drowning him.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Plus, if it's a regular be don't they die after
they sting out? Isn't that their farewell gift? That's it?
I guess now.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
I don't know if that's true about the other Like
wasps so you do it over and over and over again. Yeah,
they're made for pain. I don't know what possibly possible
reason God.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Came up with making wasps. They're just no worst. Yeah,
like bees pollinate, like we need bees, like we need
bees to make the ecosystem work. But wasps they're just
you know, they're the clay aChn of the bee worlds,
Like why are you here? Nobody likes you. There are

(32:22):
some people that like clay can. Come on, Allison, you've
ever been stung by a bee or wasp?

Speaker 7 (32:28):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (32:29):
Bees and a mud dauber.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
The Oh, they look like hornets there, but they're not.

Speaker 10 (32:35):
They're like female wasps or something.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But they're big and they're scary. They hurt. Hurt, oh
man of a mud dauber. Yeah, they look like hornets
but they're not. No, they're they're big and they're scary,
and according to Allison, they hurt. It's the Hammer of
Nigel Show.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Hello, everybody, my name is Nigel. That's Jason Hammer right
over there with a very special guest.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
On the high Line. Big story in the Washington Post
earlier today about the final years months of Colts owner
Jim Ersay's life, one of the guys behind that report.
A sports investigative reporter from the Washington Post, Will Hobson
joins us, Will, before we dive into some of the

(33:22):
interesting findings that you and your team of investigators found
in regards to the Lake Colts owner, I'm just curious,
was there any part of this process where you thought,
should we be doing this? This guy's dead? Is this insensitive?
You know what I'm saying? Was there any sort of

(33:42):
moral situation at play here?

Speaker 14 (33:46):
So, I mean, it's an important question and certainly something
we discussed. We never really strongly felt this wasn't newsworthy
because from pretty early on in our reporting, we had
information that there was a doctor. People were concerned that
there was a doctor who'd been providing mister Say treatment
that basically contributed to, if not directly led to his relapse. Wow,

(34:07):
and this doctors stought they're practicing, So you know, there
are public service concerns. And then there was the component
where you know, mister er Say and the team operate
this charity taking the stigma and they publicly tut and
champion transparency around addiction, and at the same time they
were misleading the public about what was actually occurring here.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Okay, so those are some important points that you bring up.
What are some other key things that you discovered in
this investigation, What are the things that stand out to
you the most.

Speaker 14 (34:39):
Well, basically that for the last two years of his life, unfortunately,
mister was suffering from a pretty deep relapse to his
addiction pain pills. And this wasn't a secret. This is
well known by people around him. A lot of people
saw him taking pain pills. And then in the final
months of his life, he began getting ketamine injections, which
is the same drug that ultimately contributed to the death

(35:00):
of Hollywood actor Magic Perry, and people who witnessed these
injections were alarmed at how much ketamine mister Ersay was
getting in the months before he died. And then finally
because of all that drug activity, there are concerns that
authorities in California did not sufficiently investigate miss Ersay's death.

(35:21):
The doctor who was giving these drugs basically simon death
certificate and said it was natural causes. But you know,
Corey an experts we interviewed who reviewed the case here.
You know, unless you do an autopsy, there's just no
way to know. For sure that someone actually dies of
cardiac arrests, student pneumonia and not you know, something else.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Let's back up, heare just a little bit. Where When
did this story first land on your radar? I mean,
obviously we hear in Indianapolis it was a huge story
when mister Ersay passed away, huge Colts fans. Obviously he
did not look very well in the past couple of years.
He's sixty five years old, but looked twice his age.

(36:05):
We knew something was going on when he passed away.
I probably speculated it had something to do with what
you wrote about in your report.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
When did this.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Land on your radar? And how long did it take
for you to finally feel comfortable putting it out there?

Speaker 14 (36:19):
Well, I mean we started looking into it immediately after
mister Say passed because I mean, given his public history,
you know, we thought we had my colleague Sam Fortier
and pulled the death certificate. Just assume, well, there had
to have been an autopsy. So let's see what the
autopsy and toxicology showed. And you know, right off the jump,

(36:39):
there were some some red flags here. He's only sixty
five years old. He died in a hotel in California,
and there's no autopsy and no toxicology work out. And
the doctor who signs a death certificate is it's a
regular doctor, but it's not a specialty. His addiction recovery.
He's not care for. That's unusual. Sure, calling as many

(37:01):
people as we could around miss say, and it didn't
take long for us to get to some people who
told us what had actually been happening.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Will Hobson as our guest. He is with the Washington Post,
part of the group to put this story out on
Jim Ursay earlier today. When you put a story out
like this, I think you know some people are probably
going to come at you and question and ask, you know,
various different things. You had to be very careful. You

(37:30):
went through and checked with a lot of people, You
had documents you mentioned earlier. You went back and looked
at the death certificate, Like how much time and energy
does it take just to make sure you've got all
your ducks in a row here?

Speaker 14 (37:45):
I mean, it's very time consuming and expensive. And luckily,
you know, we work at the Washington Post, one of
the few news outlets are still funds investigative journalism in
the sports world. But myself and two colleagues, Albert Sama
and San Fourier. We've been spending basically every day since
mister passed in late May working in this you're talking
three months, three of his full time. Albert spend some

(38:06):
time in Beverly Hills and Indianapolis. I spent some time
on Indianapolis. And you know, we're finally ready to publish
this week.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
And so is this investigation closed with the police, with
the doctor and this addiction specialist who is prescribing opiates
to mister Is this I mean, are we at a
at the end of this thing?

Speaker 14 (38:29):
I mean at the moment, yeah, at the moment the
investigation in what but in Beverly Hills is closed.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (38:35):
You know, there are multiple law enforcement agencies that could
potentially have jurisdiction here if they want to open an investigation.
That's something we're monitoring. But this is the same jurisdiction,
federal jurisdiction. I believe that did the the Matthew Perry
the charges in connection with his passing. So you know,
we'll see that is something that we're we're following, But
as of right now, there are as far as we're aware,

(38:58):
there are no active law enforcement investigations relating to mister
yes passing.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And well, one of the things that's interesting to me is, Okay,
there were three separate overdoses in the final five years
of Jim Mersey's life. According to the report here, we
were familiar with the Carmel home one in December of
twenty twenty three. I believe that's the one that Jim
Rsey spoke to HBO in Real Sports about with Andrea Kramer.

(39:26):
So I think a lot of people were familiar with that.
But if I understand your reporting correctly, twelve days after
that incident, there was another one.

Speaker 14 (39:36):
Correct So to be clear that the Karma one was
not the one that he mentioned to Andrea Kramer, because
that his interview with Andrea Kramer was a few.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
Months before the Karmel overdose.

Speaker 14 (39:46):
Okay, okay, So the timeline is, he has this interview
with Andrea Kramer in September. He's in the midst of
a reverie left at this point, he's taking over God pills.
People who were with him that day believe he was
intoxicated when he's talking to Andre Kramer. He mentions an
overdose in that interview, but no day and then the Sebmary,
he has the overdose home that has been reported. And

(40:09):
then twelve days later there's a second overdose outside Miami
in a place called the Saint Regis Resort.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
In Bell Harbor, Florida.

Speaker 14 (40:17):
And one of the key detail about that overdose that
occurs two days after another police incident involved in miss
Ersa is a nurse who basically tries to cut him
off from his pills, and he fires her and calls
the police and says take her away. She tells the police,
this isn't a report. He's taking his pills too quickly.
I can't in good faith give him back this medicine.

(40:38):
The cops give him back his pills, and forty eight
hours later he's overdosing again.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Well, I know you're not a doctor, but I know
you've obviously you've done thorough research. Where does ketamine come
into all this? And what is that supposed to do
for somebody who's taking opioids? Is that slowly supposed to like,
you know, counter effect that drugs. As you're coming off opioids,

(41:03):
the doctor's giving you ketamine. But I couldn't imagine taking
ten to fourteen injections a day would do you any good.

Speaker 14 (41:09):
So ketamine it's only approved as an anesthetic. You take
it like an hospital to knock out. But it has
in recent years become an in vogue treatment for depression,
and there is some research that suggests it's useful for
folks with severe depression. And you can get it in
an ivy. You can go to a ketamine clinic. That's
where Matthew Perry started taking ketamine. You go to a
clinic to hook up to an ivy and taken, and

(41:32):
that is supported by sound medicine. Where is there is
real no sound medicine. Is its use with substance abuse patients.
What experts have told us is, if you're going to
use it with a substan abuse patient, even if you're
treating their depression, they have a substance abuse issue, you
got to be really careful because ketamine is addictive, and
you know you're giving an addict an addictive drug. And

(41:55):
then also separately, mister I say had a heart condition.
Ketamine is a risky drug to give to part patients
because it can cause your blood rate you're a blood
pressure and.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
Your heart rate to surge, and.

Speaker 14 (42:06):
It can cause partiac arrest, which is ultimately what mister
Irsa actually passed away from according to the death certificate.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
And go back to something you said earlier, because that's
the first time I had heard the nurse incident where
Jim Mersey was getting a little lippy with the nurse
and the nurse was concerned. Do you know if the family,
his daughters specifically who are running the Colts organization now,
were they aware of all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
I don't know to what degree they.

Speaker 14 (42:34):
I mean, they definitely were aware that mister Rsay was
in a relapse, and they definitely were aware of these overdoses.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
And so so.

Speaker 14 (42:43):
When you know, when when Caylin Jackson, as we report
when she's she's on the Pat McAfee show in March
of twenty four at the nfl own her meetings, you know,
her dad is hostialized recovering from an overdose, and she's
very careful in what she says. She says, you know,
she's getting better. He has let him speak to his
medical issues, but you know he's got a long road.

(43:04):
So you know, I think I think the daughter is new, uh.
And so that you know that raises questions about their
the statements they they signed off on from the team,
and then also the handling them is death. As far
as we're aware of, there was no autopsy, no toxicology
work up. And if the daughters had wanted an autopsy,
if they really wanted to know what what caused their

(43:24):
father's death, they could have asked for that, But it
looks like from the records we've seen, they did not.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Well, have you heard from any of the family members will?

Speaker 6 (43:33):
I mean we have. We have a statement from that.

Speaker 14 (43:35):
We you know, made efforts to interview the misters's daughters.
We have a statement from them. I mean they essentially
we quote the statement of the story. It's it's been
passed around in media. Also, you know, they ultimately say
that they're respecting their father's privacy. They don't they suggest
there are some things to dispute in our story, but
they don't tell us what they are, and they appear

(43:57):
to be basically want to let let the story breast
where it is.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
And the addictions special finally, before we let you go,
this addiction specialist who was prescribing ersa opioid painkillers, as
you reported in your story, he's still operating. What can
you tell us about this guy?

Speaker 6 (44:16):
And where is he so, doctor Harry, doctor Harry Harrytunian
is still practicing in the Palm Springs area. He is
a luxury addiction specialist and.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
A luxury what does that mean.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Well compensated? I believe, Okay, okay.

Speaker 14 (44:34):
And he he spoke to my colleague Albert briefly basically
said he couldn't get into details because of medical privacy
of the treatment he provided Jym. But and then he
has not he and his attorney and not responded to
a number of emails we sent after that interview.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
And so so it does the word enablers comes to
mind here. It does seem like mister Ers had some
enablers surrounded surrounding.

Speaker 14 (45:01):
Yeah, those are the concerns that works for us. By
the people that you know, we were speaking with who
were witnessing all this behavior.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
We have shared your story on our Twitter at Hammer
and Nigel will Hobson of the Washington Post sports investigative
reporter will fascinating stuff. This story has been a lightning
rod here in Indianapolis. I'm sure you're getting embedded with
tons of feedback as well. We appreciate you taking the
time to join us though.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Thanks guys. I appreciate it, you got it?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
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Speaker 1 (46:02):
All Right, Allison, I'm gonna see if you can guess
the mood music here. Okay, take a listen. Ever heard this?
Not at all?

Speaker 4 (46:17):
I don't know skid Row Sebastian Bach, Yeah, lead singer.

Speaker 10 (46:24):
Sebastian Bach sounds like a classical.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Artist descended I believe.

Speaker 10 (46:30):
Okay, I didn't really know, but.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Uh, eighties rock band Yeah. Former frontman of skid Row,
Sebastian Bach is slamming so called vocal experts that post
on YouTube and critique his style of singing when he's
live in concert. Here's a little bit of the uh.

(46:58):
The former skid Row front man's rant.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
Guys that call themselves vocal experts or vocal instructors, and
these idiots watch a video of me on stage, like
at Wembley Stadium in one hundred degree weather, and they'll
sit in their chair.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
You have no clue what the hell it is that
I do.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
It's just so funny that people think that they know
how to get on a stage and rock for an
hour and a half or two hours. It's a dying art.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Well.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
And the other thing is you have to stop paying
attention to the so called experts, these singing critics right
on YouTube. Why is Sebastian bog who, Let's face it,
it's not a huge superstar, but at his height of
its popularity with skid Row had two.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Siga hits right Giant eighteen in Life and I Will
Remember You Hu we just play He's gone wild yeah, okay, okay, yep.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
And he's a personality too. He's made cameos on Traylor
Park Boys, which on He's a wild guy.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Man. I I played the hell out of I Will
Remember You. Oh yeah, I loved that song. Eighties power ballad, man,
I mean that's I mean, that is the definition of
a power ballad right there. He did a reality show
with John Rich about trying to turn a pop star

(48:31):
into a country music singer a number of years. Really, yeah,
it was Bach. It was like Enrique Iglesias and a
bunch of other random people and the whole point of
the show was to see who they could turn into
a country music singer. He did pretty well in it.
I don't know if he wanted or not, but it
was some I don't know if it was on v

(48:52):
H one or you know, the country channel.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
He's got one of those, as you can tell by
that by the mood music did Alison open up the
clip with. I mean, he's got of that, one of
those singers that had a really high register. But the
older you get, right, obviously, the harder it is to
sing in that pitch. As we've seen with David Lee
Roth on stage recently. Going around social media.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
David Lee Roth was rough up in Gary and I
hate that, but I mean, hell, he's old, like he's
an old dude. Vent's old balls. Vince Neil of Motley
Crue like he just mails it in. He doesn't even
know half the lyrics up there anymore. And they're supposed
to be doing a Las Vegas residency coming up. I'm

(49:37):
telling you, if you haven't been to Vegas lately, they're
gonna charge you an arm and a leg, and you're
gonna go up there and see some big fat hog
that looks like Sally Struthers just mouthing the words and
having the crowd sing along to it. You're not getting
your money's worth with that, and I hate that now.
I will say this for old dudes. Yeah, ac DC
still brought it.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Like those dudes say, yeah you can, just I saw
them a couple months ago. Yeah, they're getting slammed on
social media, but you have the opposite opinion.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, when I watched that show, I didn't feel like
they were up there embarrassing themselves. Like do they sound
like they did in the eighties. Probably not. But Brian
Johnson still hits those grunting sounds and Angus is still
running around there doing like the kick walk and all
that stuff. They still got it. David Lee Roth and

(50:28):
Gary Different story real quick, let's do one more here.
A high school football ref in Alabama is being called
a hero for doing CPR and saving another referee who
collapsed at a game last week. Crab. A ref named
Joey shell Nutt had just placed the ball with a
twenty five when he just dropped to the ground and

(50:48):
stopped moving, and then the other ref, Lou Murphy, immediately
ran over started pumping his chest and he pulled it off.

Speaker 15 (50:58):
I remember spotting the ball and I came up and
I thought that I may have came up too fast.
I felt a little little woozy, lightheaded for you know,
three to four seconds. But they went away and then
after that I don't remember anything. They say I collapsed
on the field. I mean they said I had died twice.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Yeah, that's something that's scary. I mean, you never know
when that kind of thing is coming, do you, And
you just only hope and pray that the guy, another ref,
who knew immediately what to do, ran out and started
giving him chess compressions, right, just I mean, could you
imagine just being out there and doing your job and
then blacking out and you're dead.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Haven't seen a lifeless performance from an Alabama person on
a football field since they went into Tennessee last year
and got big by the volunteers. Baby, Oh, the Hammer
and Nigel Show. You were listening to The Hammer and
Nigel Show. Oh yeah, Baby, I'm jacked up. Nigel, are
you really?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Because the Indiana Supreme Court has said a tentative execute dates.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Whoo, that's what we're getting excited about.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Here.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I'm strutting around here like Rick Flair right now here
in this news Let's go.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
I know we have the football this weekend, you got
the Degenerates podcast out, and you're excited about the pending execution.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Do you know how I feel when bad guys finally
meet their maker? I certainly do. And man, we're doing
it again. It took a while, but these scumbags that
have been sitting on Indiana death row for a long
time without any appeals, we're finally off in these dudes. Good.
This is a good thing. This guy's such a scumback.

(52:35):
He was given the death penalty twice in his first trial,
which they said, all right, Troy lee Ward, you are guilty,
you get the death penalty. They appealed it and there
was some sort of issue where he had to have
another trial. Okay, another trial comes around and he gets
the death penalty again. So we got two on this cat.
Let's kill him. Let's go. When do what?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Do?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
We have a date? October tenth before sunrise on October tenth.
Normally these things happen like either right after midnight or
like around one, two, three in the morning, but that
is when it goes down. This was the guy that
raped and murdered a fifteen year old girl back in
two thousand and one. He was waiting for the parents

(53:21):
to leave and he knocked on the door and said
he was looking for his dog or something evil. She
lets the guy in and that's when the heinous acts
took place. So yeah, they can't take this guy's breath
away fast enough. The only regret I have is that
we haven't passed any legislation in the state that allows

(53:42):
media to sit there and cover it and watch this
scumbag take his last breath. Because the thing that pissed
me off about Benjamin Ritchie being executed, the Beach Growth
cop killer, is that the only people that can watch
it or the victims and like the uh any family
and friends of the deceased, no media. So his lawyer

(54:06):
goes out there, this was a debacle, this was unacceptable,
this was a disaster. He was struggling. This is inhumane,
total bullcrap. Byttle, Well, right, don't threaten me with a
good time, right, You're not gonna get me to feel
sorry for you right, But if you have media that
are allowed to cover these things fairly, you know, have

(54:28):
you know IBC, have NPR, have Channel thirteen, have Channel eight,
have somebody there from the news stations, so they can
cover this thing fairly, so you avoid bull crap statements
like Benjamin Ritchie's lawyer. That's why this is important. And
I'm trying to work with some local lawmakers here on
making this something that gets voted on at the state House.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
That'd be incredible. Look at you guy Rilford over here
writing up bills.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
We're working on it. Man. It's just that rubbed me
the wrong way. And I feel like this is something
that can bring everybody together. The Democrats, the ones that
are against the death penalty, they can look at this
as all right, at least if we're going to have this,
we're gonna get transparency. We can see for ourselves what's
going on, and then for the other side, the people

(55:17):
like me, we can go tell our stories on the
air and maybe just maybe it discourages even if it's
just one person from doing a heinous act. You know,
I don't want to get the death penalty.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
How much would you pay to be the person that
pushes the button to make the chemicals go in.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Oh man, at least five thousand. The most I've ever
bid for something was a silent auction to benefit the police.
It's a Christmas gift, and that was over five grand.
But if I knew I could kill somebody, at least
that probably more. So. It's gotten real dark all of

(55:56):
a sudden here this studio, and I wonder if they
will let me bring my phone in if I can't
have my execution network with selfie, right, do it live
on Facebook? Facebook live of me hitting all systems go
and then watching that dude just get the needle. Oh,
it'd be beautiful, man, I'm a romantic, you are.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
So.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
There are seventy Guinness World records that have not been
attempted that are in the book. So the Guinness Book
or board records, it's been around for ever, right since
I was a kid. They could just turn seventy. You know,
I remember seeing the fat guys on the back of
the book and the riding the mopeds. Remember, yeah, yeah,
so that's why they're doing this.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
There's seventy that have not been attempted in its seventy
seventieth birthday.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I'm gonna read some of these and you tell me
if whether it be you, myself, you and I maybe
Alison in the mix, if we could break any of
these records. Okay, okay, most anchovies eaten in one minute.
I feel like Joey Chestnut could probably do it. Oh yeah,
like you know, he's going to be in there already.

(57:03):
Anchovies though that's the problem. Yes, he's like, I got
the hot dogs. I'm good. Longest marathon playing air guitar session. Now,
I could see a quote mandatory Metallica session from Nige yeh,
where we stream him just like two nights in a row,
just you know, drinking red bulls and taking shots of whiskey,

(57:26):
just getting loose on the air guitar. How about this,
This is a record that's still open. Most high fives
in thirty seconds. We could do that, well, I don't
know me and you could do that most hyph fives, Yeah,
thirty seconds? When timas Allison, can you get a time around?
I'm gonna walk over here to Nige. We're gonna try

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to break this record. I mean, it's not a record.
We don't have to break anything. I guess I say
the bar is pretty low, so uh, just just the
most high fives and then we can submit.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
It in thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, one hand, yeah, just one hand? Okay, ready go
well sticks twelve?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Well two girl, men just give each other high five.

Speaker 10 (58:17):
I get to sit here witnessing it.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
How much time?

Speaker 10 (58:19):
They're all halfway through? I kind of hope one of
them miss the face, but we'll see really great radio though.
All right, three two one?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I got one hundred and forty three.

Speaker 10 (58:38):
Okay, one undred and forty three. Wow, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Okay, a lot account of that.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Submit that to the Guinness Book. That's your job this week. Okay,
submit get right on that. Clip that footage because it's
on the YouTube. Yep, and clip time and then and
then and then send that to them. Please, will do
so proud?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Right, I've got my exercise for the day. Like I'm
out of breath. How much of a fat maasterd am
I that? I'm completely out of breath? Right now? It's
the Hammer and Nigel Show and it's time to play
Billy Idol or Billy Bob Thornton.

Speaker 10 (59:18):
Play Billy Idol or Billy Bob Tharton.

Speaker 15 (59:22):
That's your awful bagg You got anything in there?

Speaker 11 (59:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (59:25):
You want to see it or Billy porton the Bacon color.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Number nine was Aaron, Hey, Ron, what's going on? Hey good?
So here's the game. I'm going to read you a statement.
It will either be something that has been said by
rock legend Billy Idol or something that's been said by
Hollywood actor Billy Bob Thornton. You get two out of three,

(59:53):
we're gonna give you these concert tickets for Saturday night. Okay, okay, okay,
here we go. Number one in the midnight hour, she
cried more more more Billy Idle or Billy Bob Thornton.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
That's Billy Idle, that is Billy Idyl.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
All right, wow, get one more right here, We're gonna
throw ourselves a parties Billy Idle or Billy Bob Thornton.
I loved a woman who wasn't clean.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Billy Bob Thornton.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That's it, man, Little mad Santa for you right there,
missus Santa? No, what was her sister?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Aaron?

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Congratulations, Stay on the line, and Miss Allison will set
you up with those tickets. Okay, wonderful, Thanks buddy, you
got it, and we'll have another pair to give away
after six o'clock today. Okay, after six the last pair
of Billy Idle tickets, So make sure you're listening to
our program. A couple of women had driven over one

(01:01:03):
hundred miles from Sacramento to Santa Cruz. When they stopped,
they heard a kitten me owing. They couldn't find it
in the car. They were looking around the car. They
kept hearing this kitten, so they took it to a
body shop. Here they are, along with the mechanic who
spent seven hours searching for and freeing the kiddy.

Speaker 16 (01:01:28):
I just couldn't believe that this car drove four hours
and there was this little kitten still alive in it, And.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
I said, oh my gosh, I hear it.

Speaker 16 (01:01:36):
It just became kind of like this mission iled after
several hours of searching through this vehicle alone, and behold
was this amazing little kitten that came out crying like
a bansheet.

Speaker 17 (01:01:47):
I just sat on the floor with her and fed her,
and then she kissed at me and then just laid
her whole head into my hand and just laid there
and was purring.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
And that was it. We were you. They named it Rover,
by the way. They we were driving in a range
Rover I don't know why it takes seven hours to
find an animal in within the It would have came
to my mind after I looked around my car. Then
it's got to be in the engine somewhere. Yeah, somewhere else,
something like that. It's got to be in there someway.

(01:02:18):
They adopted the cat, or you adopting the cat, orre
you taking it straight to the shelter and moving on
with your road trip. Yeah, I'm probably taking its straight
to the shelter. H the way I feel I've saved
its life, right, yeah, so it can survive on its
own a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
My house survived four hours right around in the engine
of a range Rover. That's right, that's right. Oh man,
that's a that's impressive. Didn't Jake Querry have that happen?
Didn't he find a cat in his car and didn't
know what to do with it? He was like soliciting
people on air road?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah? Maybe?

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
I know a bunch of little bastard squirrels gotten into
my engine in my man van and ate them all
to hell. I barely made it the mechanics before I
had to spend three hundred dollars to have them replace
all the wiring that they chewed up. They thought it
was food.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
They were just looking after you. They thought it was
embarrassing you were driving the man van and they were
trying to eliminate you, humiliating ourselves anymore. Hadn't thought about
it like that?

Speaker 18 (01:03:19):
Hammer and Nigel, do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Hammer?

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
The Democrats of the Indie Council voted in a big
fat no on the fines for parents for curfew violators.
There was this one councilor in particular with the name
flip Flop.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh, you must be talking about Christa Carlino.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Why are we calling her flip flopp again?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Remind everybody well paraphrasing, of course, she was Johnny tough Girl,
Johnette tough Girl in one of the council meetings and
was like, you know what, I think, hawk Set needs
to resign. The leadership of the council needs to step down.
The way we've handled this whole sexual harassment thing to
these women is disgusting. And then she got yelled at,

(01:04:10):
whether it be by hog Set or Bob Osley, came
back the next meeting. Sorry, screw those victims, I want back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Never mind, my bad, nothing to see here, but anyway,
flip flop flip Flop basically saying the fines were unfair
and racist, of course, because many families and parts of
Indy can't afford it if their kids are out past curfew.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So this was a thing put forth by Counselor Michael
Paul Hart, who comes in here once a month and
talks to us about what's going on with the council.
And he told us, all right, we need to add
some teeth to this curfew violation because right now it
doesn't matter if these lunatic kids are out after hours,
if they have weapons, if they have whatever, there's no

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real punishment, you know. So we wanted to add some
fines to it to where if it's habitual, the parents
or the guardian start paying money. But that's racist. Christa Carlino,
Queen flipflop says, it's racist. And what I love is
that I believe last night at the council meeting, Counselor

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heart was like there's supposed to be consequences here, Like
I'm sorry that the parents might not have money, but
this is what's called a deterrent. If I didn't have
five hundred dollars to pay in fines. I would damn
sure make sure my kid was at home, locked up
and was not going to be violating curfew. Pretty simple,

(01:05:39):
It's a deterrent. But Christa Carlino, boy, she can never
say anything that's going to tick off her Democrat overlords
ever since that brief twenty four hours of clarity that
she had. Oh man, she claims it's racist now to
have consequences for the curfew violation. And if that's not enough,
like that in itself is embarrassing. At that's meeting last night,

(01:06:01):
after that, the Democrats voted to quote end debate on
public safety proposals. So these are your elected council members.
They have a specific safety subcouncil, and they don't even
want to talk. They don't even want to have a
conversation about safety in the city. No more debate in debate,

(01:06:26):
Republican Josh Bain puts on Twitter, quote, Dems on the
Indie Council are insufferable. They just voted to end debate
on public safety proposals because they don't even want to
have a discussion about it. Shameful, We're trying. We're so
tired of.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Trying to come up with things to make our city safer.
I'm sick of that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
We're tired of talking about it. Like listen, I'm fat,
you're fat, we're out of shape. I don't get tired
of talking. My god, it's not like they try to
set a high five record like we did earlier. That's
physical activity. Your job is an elected official, is to
talk about these things. Some of these people are on

(01:07:09):
the Safety Committee, where last time I checked, you know,
I'm no rocket scientists, but talking is a big part
of being on a committee. Sure, they don't want to
do that anymore. And this is the same week that
we got some of these reports out, like the one
from the Rochester Institute of Technology that shows when you
factor in population, Indy is outpacing Chicago in a lot

(01:07:34):
of categories. Oh, cities with the most homicides per one
hundred thousand per capita. Who are we up there with
Saint Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Washington, d C. Before the
federal takeover, Atlanta, and then Indianapolis and Chicago. What do all.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Those cities have in common? I said, I'm looking at
another column here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Oh, that would be the mayor's political party that's in charge,
Dem Dem Dem DEM all the way down, pretty much
all Democrats. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
And the comeback is, well, these these red states. The
crime's going up the red states. You have crime in
the Red States. No, dude, you have crime in the
blue cities. Right, you've tried it. Don't make that dumb
argument of the red state's got crime going up because
it's in blue cities.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Right. If you want to say the crime in the
state of Indiana's going up, it's ran by Republicans. Indianapolis
is as blue as it gets and that's outpacing Chicago.
That may have something to do with it, you think,
I just can't believe these people voted not to even
have debate anymore. We're not gonna talk about it. It's over.

(01:08:50):
Let the kids run wild, and I hope they shoot themselves.
Council out like that's basically what was said. Now, think
about the way this city felt after that July fourth
incident where the kids were out laid. Today they were
being knuckleheads and they all shot each other like people
really wanted answers. The FOP president went to the city

(01:09:13):
county council shortly afterwards. Rick Snyder and said this.

Speaker 17 (01:09:18):
I've been coming to this podium longer than any of
you have been in those seats, and I've been saying
the same. Thanks to you. Our children need you to
step up and talk about what's really going on. When
you talk about your limitations by ordinance and what the
Council has I see you pass resolution after resolution talking
about taking a stance on this issue and that issue.

Speaker 10 (01:09:40):
Why on earth can.

Speaker 17 (01:09:41):
You not speak out about what's going on in our
criminal justice system?

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
Right?

Speaker 17 (01:09:46):
We have made a very convincing and compelling demonstration over
years now that we have a revolving door.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
And we have a broken system.

Speaker 17 (01:09:55):
We've called upon you to call upon our prosecutor and
our courts who their budgets do fall under your purview.
We've called on you to address these issues. We're talking
about criminally violent offenders. They are laughing at what we're
doing here tonight. This means nothing to them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
It's a joke. He's right. People will laugh at the
justice system in Indiana. Look what they're doing in Johnson County.
They're putting up billboards. As soon as you get into
the county line and you cross from Marion to Johnson,
there's a billboard that says, by the way you go
to jail in this county, we actually put criminals in

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jail in this county.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
It's laughable, and everybody was really concerned after fourth of July,
we need to have tougher curfew. We've really got to
put some tent into this thing. It's going to be bipartisan.
Fast forward a month later, they don't even want to
talk about it anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
There's still the curfew, but there's no teeth to your teeth.
Nothing changed because it's ray.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
There was a curfew in place on July fourth, But
when you don't enforce it and there's no teeth to it,
that's a problem. Now again, here is from that same
council meeting in July, shortly after the kids were killed
on the fourth of July. That night downtown late this
once again FP President Rick Snyder.

Speaker 17 (01:11:23):
And the reason why we have juveniles running around with
guns in your hands, I said in twenty nineteen, after
six more people were shot in downtown, three of which
were juveniles. It is the adult criminals that are putting
the guns in our children's hands. Why, because they know
nothing will happen to them In the juvenile justice.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
System, Bengo.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
That's a huge red flag.

Speaker 17 (01:11:46):
That this Council can be talking about and addressing, and
you have got to do something on this. The last
time I came to you and told you to take
a look at these criminal justice outcomes, it was rejected.
What's done is done. I can't explain it. For the
life of me. I can't. But what I do know
is there were four more juveniles killed immediately after that vote.

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I remember standing on the scene and looking around and
watching families being destroyed, and I didn't see one of
you out there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Just giving in the dressing down of the worst kind.
I love it, and I would love for a Democrat
council member, whether it's Jesse Brown, whether it's vap Ossley,
whether it's Frank Mascari challenge. I'm sorry, inform me on
what's wrong with what Rick said right there. Why would

(01:12:41):
you not at least want to figure out some way
to enforce the curfew violation. That's all we're asking for.
We're not saying throw every kid into the death penalty
chamber up in Michigan City for the rest of their lives.
But there's got to be some sort of actual punishment
because this here isn't working, and it's only taken a

(01:13:03):
month and a half for the council members to shed
these crocodile tears to say screw it, we don't want
to talk anymore. Read damn ridiculous. Let's end this break
on a happy note, shall hey please if you need
a reason to drink tonight, Nige, happy sixtieth birthday six'
oh To Shanaia. Twain oh, Wow Shanaia. Twain so we're

(01:13:25):
going to do a little round. Up don't forget the
lyrics with Producer. ALLISON i feel like this is in her,
wheelhouse like that nineties kind of new Hit country is
where Producer allison. Lives, yeah not even. Sweating So i'm
going to play A Shanaia twain. HIT i will stop
it at some. Point you get the next. Line, OKAY
i got three of, These. Nige do you think she

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runs the? TABLE i think she runs the. Table all,
right here we go number?

Speaker 19 (01:13:50):
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Speaker 10 (01:14:06):
Any man up, Man yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
We're, off, baby we are cooking with fire. Boy you
use your diaphragm for that. ONE i was sober. Too all,
right one for. One let's go for number. Two a.

Speaker 10 (01:14:32):
MAN i feel like a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Woman here we, Go there we. Go, now of the,
THREE i think this one might be the most, challenging
BUT i still think she's gonna get. It let's find.

Speaker 10 (01:14:44):
Out i'm out of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Here let's, go, Baby let's. Go happy sixtieth To.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Shanaya in an oppressive effort from our Producer, Allison, Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I'm jacked up right. Now i'm ready to run through the.
Wall let's.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
Go are you?

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Really are you's gonna be?

Speaker 10 (01:15:23):
Okay are you?

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Okay? Yeah i'm.

Speaker 11 (01:15:27):
Fine i'm pretty freaking far from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Okay are you okay with?

Speaker 10 (01:15:32):
This on the?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Hammer In, Nigeli.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
I'm gonna tweak this just a little bit, here? Hammer
are you okay with this random?

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Fact?

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Oh, nikes just do. It slogan is based on a
murderer's last. Words Gary gilmore killed two people In utah
and got the death penalty in seventy. Six his last
words were, Quote let's do. It nike admits their slogan

(01:16:05):
was inspired by the. Quote but, wait there's. More after his,
death he donated his organs to. Science two people got his,
eyes which led to this nineteen seventy eight toe tapper
By Punk. Rocks the Adverts Gary Gilmore's eyes reached number
eighteen in THE.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Uk are you okay With nike getting their.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Slogan from a murderer and then having it turned into a. Song,
Yeah i'm fine with. It last TIME i, checked he
was brought to, justice, right he was Exec. Yeah, yeah
so he didn't get to see the fruits of his. Labor,
Yeah i'm great with. That as long as he's burning
in hell without any sort of satisfaction of knowing that
he inspired a billion dollar. CORPORATION i don't want him

(01:16:59):
to have any. Bragging i'm fine with.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
THAT i just think it's funny that, somebody you, know
the marketing guy At, nike was trying to think of
up a slogan for the. IF i, mean this is
like for their. Shoe there's the company and he heard
the murderers say.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
That was his last. Words that's, it got, It but
just do. It we're going to change the word lets
to just that's where we can sleep at night with. Ourselves,
Now i'm fine with. That, now if anybody should feel,
dirty it should be tone loke because that's how he
begins wild. Thing let's do. It it was word for,

(01:17:35):
WORD i thought he was inspired by the Murderer Gary. Gilmour,
though are you okay with?

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
This you would think that winning The Heisman troy for
he would be a major credit for your name, Surge
But Matt leinert found out the opposite when his young
son Asked alexa about his dad.

Speaker 7 (01:17:57):
When quarterback IN usc.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
Too? Much?

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
Rough, wow his career didn't amount to. Much and then
you Hear Matt lioner, go, yeah that's, well that was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Rough that's pretty. Rough, Now alexa is, Right But Matt
liner it was one of the great college. Quarterbacks you,
know twenty thirty years UH usc went through a run
there where they were like the only major school out
west paying all the players. Illegally you, know things THE
sec had been doing for. Years Like Reggie, bush his

(01:18:41):
family got a, house he got like a, vehicle and
they were doing all that stuff before nil became. Legal,
Right it's like the WAY i used to do sports.
BETTING i was doing all this crap before it became.
Legal but, yeah he got drafted by The Arizona, cardinals
had like a couple good games early, on but after
that never really worked out for. Him and now he's in, broadcasting,

(01:19:03):
right he's gonna be just. Fine he's like a super
good looking. Dude he's got a hot, wife his kids are.
Cool he's got a good sense of humor about. It
So i'm not mad at A Matt leinert at.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
ALL i want you to get up right, now go
to the, window stick your head out and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Yell i'm mad as hell And i'm not gonna take this.
Anymore and, Now Nigel joe off the rails With Rob christian.

Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
Bam.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Is Niel Jason hammer is here also joining us live
in Studio Rob kendall from the award Winning kenda let
In Case he, Show, rob how are You?

Speaker 18 (01:19:41):
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Apples we have myriad of opinions on this radio station
and sometimes they conflict with each. Other Hammer like yesterday
we brought On Tony kennet from The Tony Kinneck. Cast
his show comes on after ours at seven. O'clock he's
also a writer for The Daily Daily signal dot. COM
i want to get your take on What Tony kinnett

(01:20:05):
had to say about the issue of redistricting here In.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Indiana Redistrict, now, Yeah i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Sorry Andre carson does not have some type of a
magical constitutional right to a little one county district that's
all perfect and, square WHILE i over in the Sixth
Congressional district have to share a voting district With. Columbus
the eastern central portion of the state has nothing in
common with the people In columbus, culturally, economically industry.

Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
Wise so why.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Do we have to be Jerrymanderd but he gets to
keep his precious little. Seat what for some periods of
balance that The democrats would never? Honor why close up the?
MAP i just don't. Care, oh it's not honoring to the.
Voter that doesn't make any sense at. All soft footed
libertarian arguments that come out of Doctor seuss books are
not the real. World it's not how The indiana constitution,

(01:20:55):
works not how THE Us constitution. Works redistrict the freaking.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Maps So Tony kennett very passionate on his side about
redistricting the, Maps you very passionate on the other. Side your, Response,
Well Tony kennett loves getting himself Another Jefferson shreve for some,
reason AND i can't figure that. Out that's who will
win whatever seats they will. Create, Look i'm not a
cheerleader for The Republican, Party tony is he.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Does no one has said. That Rop literally nobody has
said you're a cheerleader for The Republican.

Speaker 18 (01:21:24):
Party, Right i'm, Saying, Tony tony wants For republicans to
say party. FUNCTION i don't believe elections should be party.
FUNCTIONS i also don't believe the taxaer should pay for primary.
Elections that's what this. Is Andrew ireland admitted that on
our show that he was very honest about. It he,
said this is holly. Political there's not some population shift
that we need to, consider like A texas or. Whatever
it's holly. POLITICAL i don't. Believe, LOOK i. DON'T i

(01:21:46):
don't have any faith in The. REPUBLICANS i don't think
they do anything for. ME i think they screw me
every opportunity they. Get tony's very excited about the idea
of having Another Jefferson shreve and rigging maps and rigging
elections for Another Jefferson. Shreeve they already see this is the.
Problem to argument, though they had A farer map and
they changed the map to Protect Victoria. Sparks they had

(01:22:06):
a map Where Marion county voters were voting in the
fifth congressional. District they changed the map to protect. Her
our state is fifty eight Percent republican in the base
on the last. Election seventy eight percent of the congressional
seats are A, republican seventy percent of the State house
seats are A, republican eighty percent of that of The
senate seats are A. Republican the state is already jerrymandered

(01:22:27):
the two areas that Are. DEMOCRAT i don't think anybody
would argue Our democrat, areas which Are Marion county And Lake.
County The Lake county, area we have already rigged these
maps to Protect. Republicans and what is disgusting to me
about it is they basically, admitted, well we'll rig them
for a couple of years this, way and then once
we get the new, census will undo them and peel it.

(01:22:48):
Back this is all about being afraid Of Donald. Trump
this is all about being afraid Of Charlie. Kirk this Is,
LOOK i don't want my money to Subsidize Republican party
functions as a. Taxpayer IF i want to do, That
i'll pay for that. Myself tony feels different about. It,
YEAH i think you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Bring up an interesting, point Because i'm somebody that feels
like fight fire with, fire, right that's, Me, LIKE i
expect to get screwed no matter who it. Is so
if you can fight, back fight. Back but you bring
up an interesting, point everybody's just assuming it's going to
be a Good republican that gets the. Job, well this
is how you end up getting stuck With Jefferson, shreve
who at one point was a gun grabber here in

(01:23:25):
Central indie and now all of a sudden he wants
to be the beacon of conservative values In. Washington all
you've gotten from The republicans since they took the house
back Is biden's spending levels and plus, RIGHT i, mean
look at what they just. Did they just added another
four trillion plus to the debt in this big bullcrab. Bill,
Like i'm not fired up About. REPUBLICANS i don't believe

(01:23:47):
In republicans. Anymore they don't do anything for. Me and
you're much more apt to GET i don't even know
who a Good Indian. Republican i'll just Use Andrew.

Speaker 18 (01:23:55):
Island you're much more app to get A Jefferson treeve
In congress than you are And Andrew ireland type earlier this.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Week forgive, ME i forget his. NAME i think he's
in the legislature who made the argument That i've heard
you make several. Times but this guy is A democrat
and he said that having A republican supermajority In indiana
is a bad. Thing, NOW i understand why that comes
out of A democrat's, mouth But i've heard you make
the same.

Speaker 18 (01:24:16):
Arguement, YEAH i Mean Kyle miller's guy's. Name he was
A democrat. Rep From Fort. Wayne your taxes have never been,
higher the government has never been.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Bigger you think your taxes are going to go down With?

Speaker 18 (01:24:27):
Democrats, yeah because if you look at how The republicans
had to behave When Mitch daniels was, governor when we
were in the form tax cutting era of government in the,
state they had to fight With. Democrats, now there were
times Where republicans had all the levers of, government but
they didn't have an automatic rubber stamp like they. Didn't
what happens now is these lawmakers go in and they,
recognize because of the way the districts are, drawn the

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only WAY i can lose is in a. Primary all
ALL i have to do is get out of my,
primary And i'm going to be. Fine and so they
recognize that the most likely to lose in a primer's
not from some guy to the, right it's the, Establishment Houston,
bray those guys pumping big, money As Julie maguire when
she Beat john jacob of a couple of years, Ago

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Curtin icy where they spend a million dollars to get
those guys. Out so they just go in and be
good little boys and girls and do whatever the legislature tells,
them which is more, taxes more, government more crony. Capitalism all,
right so you're a political, animal you go to these council.
Meetings you used to be an elected, Official you've got the.
Sources how did we get to this point to, where,

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okay it's a red state for the most, Part republicans get.
Elected but it feels like the public should know now
who some of these butt sniffers are that just want
to raise their. Taxes how did we get to this
point to where we keep electing Bad republicans because the
public is largely apathetic and The democrats have made themselves simply.

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Unelectable AND i told that guy that the other Day Kyle,
miller the state rep From Fort.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
WAYNE i, said, look they're so far to the, left
you are even.

Speaker 18 (01:26:00):
There's a litany of issues you could take The republicans,
down and, like if you let, me if you let
me run The Democrat party for a, year two, years,
RIGHT i promise YOU i could not only get The
secretary Of state's, office but also Five house seats and
probably Two senate. Seats now does that totally change the
balance of. Power, no but is it a start you
have JUST i, mean, look, look you got The attorney

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general who might be about to lose his law. License
you've got The lieutenant governor who's allegedly under grand jury.
Investigation you've Got Diego, morales which is a, walking talking
ethics corruption red. Flag all of these. Guys you've got
the utility stuff that's totally out of. Control you get
the property taxes that are out of. Control if you
just had normal people that these are the things that
they talked, about you would resonate with. People but instead

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you get on demand abortion crazy. People you get people
talking about how boy little kid should be able to
chop off their, penises and people are just, like, Well
i'd rather pay higher taxes than have to deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
This all, right you said something there in. PASSING i
want to go back on the. Loo i'm. Sorry the
attorney general here In, Indiana Todd, rakeita you say he's
about to lose his law. License could, be don't know for. Sure,
OKAY i feel like this is The Penn state football
conversation every, Year every damn, YEAR i hear the same.
Thing Oh rakeeda's going. Down oh look, Out rakeeda is going.

(01:27:14):
Down that's the sports. Version i'm, sorry that's the political
version of the sports. Argument this Is Penn state's, year big, Game,
James they're gonna Beat Ohio. State Look out here they
Come Happy. VALLEY i feel like Even Nikki, kelly who
you had for The Capitol chronicle on your show, today
even had somewhat of a hammer sentiment to where it's
it's not likely to, happen like it's it's. Rare there's

(01:27:38):
there's not there's not exactly precedents The Todd rakeeda doom
and gloom is doing the Spider man meme pointing At
Penn state football.

Speaker 18 (01:27:45):
Fans, well, okay SO i have SAID i think he
will get. Suspended, now suspension doesn't mean he stops Being attorney. General,
okay that's What Curtis hill had now if you read
the tea leaves, though because so for those you aren't,
WARE i think most people. Are But todd Rakeet is
back in front of The Disciplinary, commission and they have
now set up a three judge, panel two Appointed republican

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judges and A democrat judge that will serve as essentially
the hearing officers to make the recommendation of The State Supreme.
Court and this is all going back years now of
those comments that he made On Fox news about the abortion.
Doctor Because todd can't understand that you don't have an
unlimited First amendment right the same way we don't when
we're on these. Airwaves there's words we can't. Say when
you accept becoming an attorney Ins state Of, indiana when

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you get a law, license there are rules and requirements
you have to abide, by which, means just like us
here in these, airwaves you don't have an absolute First amendment.
Right todd can't get that through his thick, skull and
so he keeps finding himself back in front of this
essentially like Judiciary.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Commission for lack of a better, term that oversees.

Speaker 18 (01:28:47):
Lawyers they've set up this three judge panel The State
Supreme court has and if you read the tea leaves
at The State Supreme, court they have strongly urged Mister
roketa to settle this with this. Panel if you read
The tea leaves with the rejudge, panel they've strongly urged
Mister roketa to settle this through. MEDIATION i think they're
just done with The rokeda bull. Crap now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Again it's Gonna state's bringing their quarterback. Bat, look they're
gonna Beat Ohio state on the road this.

Speaker 18 (01:29:13):
Year it would take a monumental thing to take away
the votes of a million plus. People and that's Why
i've Said i'm not sure they'll pull the trigger on,
it but if there was any time they would ever do.
It this guy is such a colossal blow hard and
pain in the ass THAT i just think they're so
sick of. Him that being, Said, roketa you're, right he's
like the nuclear holocaust will Be Keith richards the cockroaches

(01:29:33):
And rokeeda.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Left he always finds a way To wee's. LOUD i
think the feeling's. Mutual by the, Way oh.

Speaker 18 (01:29:38):
Totally that's. Fine you, KNOW i don't get mad as
what he called me last, time the village. Idiot it's fine.
Here BUT i do want to say something About. ROKEEDA
a video has surfaced of him fifteen years ago when
he Was secretary Of state talking about the need to
get politics out of. Redistricting And Todd roketa tried very
hard when he Was secretary Of state. Too it was
the early days of artificial intelligence to put artificial intelligence

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fairly draw lines that take the politics out of. Redistricting,
well now he comes out and he's wholly supportive of
infusing mass politics into the redistricting. Process and these are
the things WHEN i call the guy a, blowharden a
boob in a, buffoon these are the things That i'm talking.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
About But, rob people can change their minds over that.
Time BECAUSE i am old enough to remember you doing
a picture With Todd rakeeda wearing a Support Mike PETT'S t.
Shirt we posted it on the off the rail of
promotional tweets.

Speaker 18 (01:30:29):
Before, yeah and, LOOK i don't think this is your
signature position As secretary Of. STATE i don't think you
like change your mind on that when you're giving speeches
and going to. Events and, yeah, Look i've said this.
BEFORE i used to really Like Todd. Roketi he was
a very Good secretary Of. State he did VOTER, id
he was for the fairness in. Elections he did a
lot of good. THINGS i don't know whether he suffered
a head injury or amnesia or, what but something happened

(01:30:50):
to that guy when he ran FOR Us senate that
he just turned into a complete maroon.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Rob we have got a New degenerates Next stall podcast
Out you went two and oh last WEEK i went
one and one the brain trust Of Hammer kendall. Here,
wow seventy five percent last week three knees.

Speaker 18 (01:31:10):
At the goal line hit that under in The Iowa
State kansas. State nobody ever wins that that. Happened, WELL
i didn't know that it was amazing Because i'd given
up on the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
GAME i was, mad and SO i. Left and then
and that came after they had a review where they
took the points off.

Speaker 18 (01:31:23):
The, yeah great part about it Was, kenny one of our,
pros took the other side of, that AND i knew
somehow something magical had happened for. Me there's a bunch
of WORDS i can't say on the air popped up
in our group, text AND i was, like what it
was like The Sid caesar at the end of the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
VACATION i, WON i. WON i want the money, MONEY
i believe.

Speaker 18 (01:31:42):
It, yeah so we're two and oh you got AND
i both had plays On Notre dame or On Ohio State.
Texas i've got to play On Notre. Dame no name's
got a big game Against miami and you break that game.
DOWN i got action.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Tonight you want to get a last minute bet in
for Tonight nebraska taking On, Cincinnati i'm on.

Speaker 18 (01:31:59):
That CAN i just address something with you real quick
before we have to please my, mailman who is your
very good, Friend. Justin he is the official mailman of
The Hammer knight has disappeared. SOMEWHERE i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Know we've done and forward for a couple of.

Speaker 18 (01:32:12):
Weeks BUT i got a major issue because When justin is,
there the mail is almost always there by, noon and
it gives me something to look forward to WHEN i
get home from. Work and the replacement mail lady it's
like free. Nightlock it's like four. O'clock so can you
give her a pep? TALK i don't, know so the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Backup quarterback isn't as good as the. Starter that's. Normal
what possible reason would you have to want your mail
at a certain, time at a certain.

Speaker 18 (01:32:39):
Day it's an easter, egg like every day opened the,
mailbox it's an easter.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Egg you like getting, Bills that's WHAT i was.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
THINKING i HOPE i don't get. MAIL i enjoy it
WHEN i open my mailbox and there's nothing in.

Speaker 18 (01:32:50):
There Same, NO i like THE q. PONS i enjoy
looking through other other value. Pires you, KNOW i do
like like all those. THINGS i enjoy. It just you're
very cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Man, WELL i just enjoy seeing what's what's in the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Box so you gonna wait a couple of extra hours the.

Speaker 18 (01:33:05):
Box it's everything, Good but it's just the joy of
something's in this, box AND i don't know what it.
Is and so if you can just tell the mail
man if he, can't if he can't return in a rapid,
fashion if you could give this lady of talk or, Something.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I'll mention that twenty years from, now When rob's older
and he's losing his, mind he's gonna be standing outside
by his, mailbox blackstocks and. Sandals where have a? Coupon
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