Episode #2017 Hammer and Nigel Full Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel. Can you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'll tell you what, Hammer. If there is one radio
show that can make what goes on during a city
county council meeting interesting, it's us. It's a Hammer and
Nigel show. City County Council. Last night, as expected, there
was an amendment to the curfew law which would have
lowered the fine amount. There was an original amount put

(00:28):
forth by what was it, our buddy Mph.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, Michael Paul Hart. Yeah, former minority leader. And so
they had a little Survivor style coup and kicked him
off the island.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
They so he had an amendment. He's like, all right, look,
the original fines for curfew violations in my initial proposal,
I'm willing to give a little bit on that, they
were a little high. Let's go down a little.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
More than just a little more than just a little
in some cases more than half. So in the first
building that was rolled out a couple of weeks ago,
a parent that had a child violate curfew. First time,
you get a written warning, Okay, don't let it happen again.
Second time, it was supposed to be a five hundred
dollars fine. And the third time fifteen hundred dollars. Moving forward,

(01:17):
So we had some counselors like Krista Carlino come out
and say, hold on, hold on, hold on, that's a
little too expensive for the people of Indianapolis, which it's
supposed to be because it's a deterrent. But all right, fine,
So Michael Paul Hart comes back and says, here's what
we'll do. We're going to lower the costs. Okay, so

(01:40):
first time, same thing, you get a finger wagging, don't
do that again. Second time, instead of five hundred, it's
going to be three hundred dollars reasonable. Third time instead
of fifteen hundred dollars, seven hundred dollars with a keyword
being up to seven hundred dollars. Now I used to

(02:02):
work in marketing, so that word up to is very
important here, meaning you can lower it if you want to,
less than half of the original fine for the third
and it still wasn't good enough for these lunatics. They
basically voted party lines and said that quote, we need
a discussion with more community members and stakeholders.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, more discussion, that's what we need.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
About holding parents accountable like there is supposed to be
some teeth to this thing. If it's just a finger wagging, Okay, fine,
nothing's going to change. I'm sorry, Christa Carlino. But if
you can't afford the fine of having little Johnny arrested
on the streets of downtown at two o'clock in the morning,

(02:49):
how about you make sure little Johnny's locked up in
the house, he's not on the streets of Indianapolis at
two o'clock in the morning. It's so disappointing because I
thought this was a fair amendment, a fair compromise by
Michael Paul Hardy.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
He knew he wasn't going to get it passed, though, correct.
He knew that. He didn't come right out and say
that on this show when he was with us yesterday.
But I'm projecting, so in other words, I'm projecting he
knew that wasn't going to get passed.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Remember those twelve hours where people in this city were
very concerned about children being shot after the fourth of July.
Remember that little twelve hour window where people gave a
damn boy, that's out the window now. Like if you
would have had this be a public vote on July fifth,
the day after the fourth of July could have it.

(03:39):
Public would have been overwhelmingly behind this, but because enough
time has gone by and these Democrats on the City
County Council and don't get it twisted here. There are
some weak Republicans on there too, but this was pretty
much party lines. Democrats said, No, I still feel like
allowing kids to roam the streets with no consequences is

(04:02):
where the city needs to be.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, there's consequences. We you know, will take them to
a facility where their parents could come and pick them up.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Parents. I think it's cute that we all think there
are parents like the kid just you know, got out
of the house rode a skateboard or bike downtown. Oh,
by the way, he had six guns on.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Him too, were probably dropped off by the parents if
there's any at all involved.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
In many cases, it's a grandparent that's asleep by seven
point thirty that has no idea what's going on. And
this is where the finds would have came into play.
But according to the Democrats on the City County Council,
it's either racist or inappropriate and we need to have
more conversations and discussions with community members and stakeholders before

(04:50):
we can ask parents to know where their kids are
at at two o'clock in the morning. Here is our
pale Rick Snyder, FOP President, responding to this vote last night.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, what kind of message does that send to the
youth and the parents that.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Are involved in these late late night activities?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Exactly, exactly rhetorical question.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, if the parent now is going to be like,
wait a minute, I don't have to pay anything, no
matter what happens. Yeah, sure, let me know if he's out,
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I mean that's where we're at. What happens, So they're
out past curfew, a youth, a wild, untamed youth, youth
out and then they take him to the holding facility,
and when it's like five o'clock in the morning, they
just let him go. Pretty much. Loss of parent comes
and picks them up.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Think of it as fishing, right, You go out fishing,
you catch a couple catfish, you hold it up for
the camera. You might put it in the cooler and
I guess screw it, just throw them back before you
go home. That's where we're at. We're fishing in downtown Ending.
The counselors did vote to call down the rezoning petition

(05:58):
of that big data center that was supposed to be
going in Franklin Township. This is like the one thing
that the counselors can come together on. They can't agree
that parents should be held accountable for their kids, but boy,
when it comes to data centers, there's no difference between
Brian Mowory and vop Osley. They're the same guy. They're

(06:19):
doing the Schwarzenegger Carl Weathers predator high five when it
comes to the data centers, Like, if we could come
together for that, why can't we do crime in the city.
Why it's ridiculous all that stuff's goin to put me
in a bad mood nage? Would you like to hear
something that I think would put us both.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
In better spirits? Sure?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Would you like to hear former CNN host Don Lemon
doing a Man on the Street segment where somebody just
craps all over him?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
What was his nickname? He had a nickname, didn't need?
Was he the dumbest man in television?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Donald Trump dubbed him the dumbest man on television?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, and now he's he's on X but he's not
getting paid eight and he's doing Man on the Street interviews.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Correct, Oh wow, And there was a gentleman lord that
recognized Don but was not a fan. Take a listen
to how it played out.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
How you doing, sir? Can we talk to you? Where
you're from? Do you live in New York?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Who you don?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Lemon?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
You're more dude? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So are you?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Like?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
You've never heard anything I've had to say? And I've
heard a whole bunch of you.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I'm glad you watched me. No, I don't why you
just get clipped everywhere I know? But why don't you?
You said you don't watch me? But you you know
who I am? And I got before I realized. And
MSNBC with foolish every once in a while, like what
are you watching? I watch all sorts of stuff, but
why do you say? See an an? MSNBC full of shit?
Because about what? Everycific? What's everything?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Everything?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Everything from a Hunter's laptop to Russia? Russia, Russia? I
have to the impeached. Where are I? Where do I begin?
Is my answer? If I that guy, I think the
words effing moron came out of his mouth like within
seconds of that interaction, now, which he has to give
the guy credit.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
And Don for that split second thought, Oh, this guy
recognizes me. I bet he loves me, And two seconds
later he's called a bleaping moron.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's beautiful, Nige.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
If you need a reason to drink tonight, Happy fifty
ninth birthday to Adam Sandler, the Sandman. He's fifty nine
fifty nine years old. So here's what we're gonna do,
love the same man. I've got five clips of Adam
Sandler movies. We're gonna play them. How many do you
think producer Alison can name? Your job is to name

(08:44):
the movie? Okay, Alison, okay? Over under a set at
three and a half, I go over. Okay, so four
and five cashes the over? Okay Allison. Number one, you're
in big trouble though, Pali pieces of shit like you
for breakfast A few week pieces of shit for breakfast.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
No Happy Gilmore hop.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Big Gilmore's one for one.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Number two, Hey, look, everybody Billy Peter's pants.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Of course I peed my pants.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Everybody my age piece and the pants.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's the coolest Billy Madison. Yes, go two for two. Okay.
Number three. I've been talking to my friends the last couple.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Of days, and I think I figured out what's been
bothering me?

Speaker 8 (09:30):
I'm not in love with Robbie now, I'm in love
with Robbie six years ago.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Once again, things that could have been brought to my attention. Yes,
wedding singer, wedding singer three for three?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
All right, number more.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
I'm getting nervous.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
What's this?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
King?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Usha?

Speaker 10 (09:49):
After my nap? I always watched the King Ushaw.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's overtime right now and there's a penalty shot about
to take place.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
This happens like once every ten years.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Shop King, Us, Shop King. I love how each of
these clips ends with him just yelling.

Speaker 11 (10:07):
By the way, this is easily my favorite Adam Sandler movie,
Big Daddy, Big Daddy.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
All right, Uh, we've already cashed a ticket. Let's see
if she can run the table.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I like Vicky.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
She likes me back, and she showed me a movies
and I like.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Him too, Water Boa there we go. Fuck fun.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Happy birthday to Adam Sandler.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Hammer in Nigel Hill.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Do you suppose we'll meet any wild animals?

Speaker 12 (10:35):
Water?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Cristal the dinga at your baby.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And now Hummer Nigel proudly presents damn Nature, You're scary
Ryan and.

Speaker 13 (10:47):
Oh four year old boy in North Carolina hammer sent
to the hospital after a copperhead snake bit him at.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Daycare cop Head Road as he was playing near a sandbox.
Of course, here's it sounded like the boy is gonna
be okay. Here is the boys auntie talking about what happened.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
The director said, he got snake be it. My first
thought was whiting and they count on. My second thing
was like, does the parents even know about the other parents?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Why are they calling me? Was I like third on
the list? Call nine one one? If the four year
old gets bit by a copperhead snake.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
What do you want me to do about it? Drive
over and suck the poison out? Is that why I'm called?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
She was awesome to play that play player again. She's like,
why are they calling me?

Speaker 10 (11:42):
Direction said he got snake be it? My first thought
was whitey and they count one.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's a very common Yeah, that's a common response.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and it's even better with the awesome North Carolina
accent snake bit?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Why did they can one?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Great moments and snake's history. This was a woman who
had went out to a restaurant to have a lovely meal.
She had her glass beverage right in front of her.
Next thing, you know, a snake falls from the ceiling
down to her food.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Ohh.

Speaker 14 (12:17):
I leaned in to take a sip and I noticed
that something hit me on the forehead. And I looked
at my husband like what was that? And when I
turned around, I saw the snake.

Speaker 15 (12:28):
In my margarita.

Speaker 14 (12:29):
Oh and I just jumped away from the bar. At
that point, there was moving. It started wrapping around my straws.
They grabbed the stick trying to get it, and I
was just like, please, don't let it go in my purse.
Another man that was having dinner on the other side
of the bar came and he grabbed it and took
it out. I left shaking, like I was traumatized.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I'd be pretty traumatized. Yes, that had happened. I
have a friend who tells his story a long time
ago at a very well known, famous high end restaurant
downtown Arby's, not arb No, the kind that you have to,
you know, make a reservation like a month in advance.

(13:08):
He was sitting there having dinner and a cockroach fell
from the ceiling onto his.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Oh no, no, he didn't make a.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Scene, but he he discreetly called whoever was walking past
him and pointed it out, and his whole entire you know,
obviously his meal was taken care of.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sure, I would expect the next one probably be taken
care of too.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I would be asking the matre d, the waiter, whoever
it may be. Excuse me, sir, is it normal for
cockroaches to fall into my food?

Speaker 15 (13:45):
Here?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I'm new?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Can can one of the bus boys get me a
can of raid?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Great moments and snakes history. Of course, we have played
the clip from the Samuel L. Jackson classic Snakes on
a Plane.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh sure, I have.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Had it with these Moni Snakes on this Mondi way.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Now. We had to beat that out because that's how
you know the language is in the movie. It's pretty
pretty a hard r when you're dealing with Samuel L.
Jackson always, But when they try to put these movies
on Basic Cable, they don't just bleep things out. Sometimes
they change the copy. Okay, so listen to how this

(14:30):
same clip, the same scene in the movie sounds on
Basic Cable.

Speaker 11 (14:36):
I have had it with these monkey fighting Snakes on
this Monday to Friday.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Play monkey Fighting Snakes on this Monday to Friday plane.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's that's him. Yes, So they call they call the
production company or the director calls the actor back in
and does has him do voiceovers right like after they
they're done filming the movie.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Right, we need to coord a version that could play
on Basic cable, maybe one that's on you know, regular
TV if you want to get the royalties. Sam, we
need you to lay these audio tracks down. Can I
hear the Uh?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, I need to hear that edit.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
One more time, plays Alison, I have had with.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
These monkey fighting snakes on this money to great moments
and snake's history. Hello when it was an agel Jason
Hammers here goes straight to the hot line and bring
on the number two in charge here in the state
of Indiana, Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck with Micah, thank you
for coming on. One of my favorite quotes I've seen
in the past couple of days, I think, and I'm

(15:39):
paraphrasing here is in the Indie Star you mentioned that
the media can decide if you're a radical right wing
Christian nationalist or an open borders leftist. Which one is mine?
Do you have to choose right now?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Listen?

Speaker 11 (15:56):
I am I am still very much on the America. First,
I would consider myself right. I'm not a moderate leftist.
I believe in traditional American values and part of that
is making sure that we have secure borders. And I've
been speaking out against the abuse of the TPS, the
temporary protected status of the Haitians for a number of

(16:17):
years now. Biden did this to us. This is Biden's
problem that he created. Trump's doing a great job trying
to clean it up, and that you know, that post
was just totally misconstrued and taking out of context. And
people started saying.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh, you're a you know, you're a radical leftist and
you and open borders.

Speaker 11 (16:32):
I'm like, go back and look at my record. I've
been very clear and I've stood strong and nothing's changed.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Was it taken out of context? Micah? Or did you
do a crappy job of writing it? Because I'll be honest,
when I read it the first time, I wanted you to
read it. I'm gonna read it. Yeah. Here it is,
word for word quote. Yesterday, I sat with Haitian pastors
from Marion County. Their people have endured earthquakes and violence,
and now more than forty thousand are seeking asylum here

(16:59):
and Indiana. We spoke about barriers of language and culture
while also discussing the power of faith and family. What
I saw was not a community asking for a handout,
but people determined to work hard, raise their children, to
become contributors to the Great Hoosier State and assimilate to
the American way of life. So, Micah, I took that

(17:21):
as forty thousand seeking asylum, and you talk about assimilating
to the Great Hoo's your state. I can see why
people would take that.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
The wrong way.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh one hundred percent. It was an unclear post.

Speaker 11 (17:35):
I mean, listen, I don't say everything perfectly, and I've
said that. We put out a clarifying stave to say
we're not advocating for forty thousand to come. This is
not what we said. They're already here. They were here,
brought here by Biden and Eric Holcomb brought them in
as well, and so and I spoke out against that
very adamantly.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
But I was meeting with.

Speaker 11 (17:56):
These pastors to say, you guys have a job to
do while you're here under the temporary status.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
You assimilate to our values, not the other way around.

Speaker 11 (18:05):
I'm getting sick and tired of seeing all of our
culture stripped away. When we have all of these different
immigrants coming in saying you've got to respect our way
of life now because we're in your land. It's like, no,
you came to America. You respect the American value system.
And that's what I was telling these pastors to do.
And I would say, hey, don't don't expect to hand out.
You're not getting a hand out. We're not going to
teach your kids, you know, English and public school. You

(18:27):
should be teaching them English in your church. We're not
going to feed your kids. You should be feeding them
from your church. So I'll speaking to them as a
pastor and saying, assimilation while you're here is a must.
Don't come in and start to you know, start to push,
you know, a way of life into our culture. So
that's really what it was. But yeah, there's a poorly
worded post. I absolutely agree with that.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Mike good When you say speaking as a pastor, and
it comes from the official Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith's social
media account, I think we kind of get into that
gray area of religion and sure and state, and I
think that's where a lot of people get squorely.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
I mean Hey, so I'm a pastor. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna shy away from that. I'm a pastor.
And by the way, my faith is my identity. We
don't tell somebody who's LGBTQ. You know, Hey, you can't
be lgbt LGBTQ when you're a politician. Why do I
have to sacrifice my faith and put my check my
identity at the door. And it's for some reason, it's

(19:24):
like it's not okay to be a pastor in a politician,
but everything else.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
You can be a business leader and the politician. You
can be LGBTQ and a politician. You can be everything
else in the world.

Speaker 11 (19:31):
But when it comes to you our faith and I'm
a pastor, everyone says you need to check that at
the door.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
But there's different rules for the government though than business. Micah,
how so like the separation of church and state by
elected officials?

Speaker 11 (19:46):
Hammer, you are so wrong on it. That show me
the Constitution where it says separation in church and state.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Okay, Okay, I don't have it right in front of
me right now, but I know there's a lot of
people that feel like this is like the gray area
right Like, I'm rooting for you, I want you to
you well, but I need the Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckworth.
I don't need the pastor. You're not my pastor. So
the religious aspect of this, that's what I think a
lot of people are like, hold on here, just I

(20:11):
appreciate your faith, but we got to focus on business
at hand right here. And this tweet, this Facebook post,
whatever it was, came out wrong.

Speaker 11 (20:19):
So we are suffering from depression, anxiety, anxiety, suicide, poverty, disease,
all of these things that God has said how to
deal with in his word. And so you don't want
a pastor right now to help deal with this. I
think that's the problem with America. We push faith out
of our community, and I'm saying, bring it back in,
and you need pastors to step up and do that.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm one.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
We don't tell a business owner when when the economic
you know, the prowess of a state goes away. We
saw Mitch Daniels come in. He said, I'm a business guy.
I understand business, and I'm going to get our state
back into the right alignment when it comes to business,
and we're going to balance the books, and he did
that as a business guy. What I'm seeing is is
the moral degradation of our society. And I'm a pastor.

(21:01):
I know morality, i know what God says about morality,
and I'm going to come into this and we're going
to fix it from this perspective now. So I think
it's totally appropriate to bring faith into this environment.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I'm not going to change. I mean, that's who I am, sure.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And just for the sake of transparency, Mike, for our audience.
In Indiana, the separation of church and State is a
principle derived from the First Amendment of the US Constitution
and Indiana's own constitution.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Nope, show me, okay, read the First Amendment. Does it
say separations in Church and State?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Article one of Indiana's Constitution. Listen, this is going to
take forever. I'm going to post it online. I'll share
it to you later because I don't got to.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Hear other stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I teach this stuff. Emmer, It's not there.

Speaker 11 (21:38):
What you're referring to is the establishment Clause that Congress
will make no law respecting the establishment of religion. But
you know the same guys who wrote that, do you
know what the state constitutions. The first thirteen state constitution
said you can't run for office unless you make a
public declaration of faith in Jesus Christ as.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Your Lord and savior to be able to run for office.

Speaker 11 (21:54):
The same guys who wrote the state constitutions wrote the
US Constitution. All they were saying is we don't want
the federal government telling us to do it, but we
expect the states to make sure that you have godly
people who understand the moral law of the creator of
heaven and Earth to dictate how to govern society. So
they were not saying faith is separate. They were saying

(22:15):
faith is absolutely imperative. George Washington said, you can't rightly
govern without God in the Bible, you can't have faith,
and you can't have a free society without faith. That's
what our founders are saying is so we've got away.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
From that hammer. That's why everything falling apart.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I saw some interesting criticism of you, Lieutenant Governor Micah
Beck with here on the Hammer in Nigel Show from
some local independent reporters. The Indie Reporter I think he
like retweeted somebody that was actually that was defending you
in your posts there, but they were saying, Micah is
being a smart ass to everyone that questions him about this.

(22:52):
Micah isn't doing himself any favors by deleting posts. Micah
is still lacking accountability and acting like he's a victim
on all this. At this point, most of Mike's base
is done with him. The only people that are left
are the boomer cons that think he can do no wrong.
It's kind of a condoluted thing, like like, is your

(23:14):
base done with you? I mean, I know you were
you were elected by the delegates, but but but but
do you agree with that assessment that your base.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I've got so.

Speaker 11 (23:23):
Many I've got so many people I have reached out
during this whole thing and they're like, hey.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
We know exactly what you're doing. We stand with you.
This is I mean, this is not a you know,
the base is done. This is this is this.

Speaker 11 (23:36):
Is just your your your I've made an unclayed, unclear tweet, right,
and so now I'm clear, I'm clearing enough. I'm the
most accessible politician I think we have in the entire state.
I do town halls, we do roundtables. I come on
shows like this, I let.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You ask me any quoest.

Speaker 11 (23:53):
I've never told you guys, you can't ask me about
this or do and every time you asked me to
come on, I come on. So when itists, when they're saying,
well he doesn't he's not accountable, I'm like, well, show
me another politician who's willing to engage and talk to
people like I do. And I want to hear people.
I don't just get myself an echo chambers. I love
going outside the echo chamber and hearing good pushback and hammer.

(24:13):
I love that you're pushing back on this.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
This is how we actually have good, honest dialogue and
we get somewhere.

Speaker 11 (24:19):
But for years we've said, don't talk about politics, don't
talk about religion, and I think that's why we're in
the boat we're in. So I'm breaking that mold and
say no, talk about it, and if you have an
issue with me, tell me and we'll discuss it. If
I'm wrong, I'll change. You got to show me, get
proved to me that I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Chatting with Micah Beck with Lieutenant governor here in Indiana. Micah,
I asked you this question the last time you joined us,
about a month ago. I'm going to ask it again,
is there a grand jury investigation into any sort of
activities from your office.

Speaker 11 (24:51):
I've not heard one ounce of that actually being true.
I mean, we don't know if grand jury's are going
on or not. I'm not going to say it's not happening,
but I have not heard that whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
So if it is, it's it's unbeknownst to me.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Do they not tell you if it's your office? This
is a question. I don't know the answer. If they're
looking out of your office, shouldn't you know?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (25:14):
I don't know how the prosecutor's office works, but I
don't think they would tell you.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think that's the.

Speaker 11 (25:17):
Whole point of a grand jury, which is just like
it's stay secret and they you know, they're kind of
doing everything, which I'm not a big fan of that.
I think your accuser should come forward, by the way,
and they should tell you for sure. But I just
know how grand jury's work, and typically you don't know
what's going on behind the scenes. But to this day,
we still can't find any proof that any of that happened.
And if it did happen, I said this all along,

(25:39):
We're going to bring the hammer down on the people
that were behind this. But you've got to show me
proof you're not guilty and Tel proven innocent. You're innocent,
Tel proven guilty, and so that's just I've been very clear,
like you got to bring.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Proof and nobody has so far. Me we can't even
find the videos so called video. We can't.

Speaker 11 (25:54):
I can't find anyone who's even seen the video. So
I mean, like there's no proof, and I'm not just
gonna wrap everything in my office for a baseless allegation.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
No, And I understand that. I think there are a
couple of different angles to that story. Like I have
no idea if the video exists or not. That was
kind of the crux of this thing. But also I've
heard from people that may or may not have spoken
to a grand jury, So like that's kind of the
reason why I've asked you the second time in a
month here, because again I don't know how it works.

(26:24):
I would feel like if this were the office of
Jason Hammer and somebody that works in my office is
talking to a grand jury, I should probably be aware
of that, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, and the mayor may well be the case. I mean,
I can't tell you who's talked to who.

Speaker 11 (26:37):
I mean, I'm not privy to all these conversations of
different people involved, and quite frankly, listen, if I'm the
prosecutor of Marion County, I'm going to look into this,
like I think it's right for a prosecutor to do
their new diligence because this is a really egregious allegation.
If this is happening, I mean, this is going to
be a continued problem for future generations. How we have

(26:58):
deep fakes coming out and we should put the handle
down on it and clamp down on that now. And
so listen, I'm all for the prosecutor, you know, looking
into this and making sure that there isn't any there there.
But but again, we just it's been a month now
and I can't find any proof that this has happened.
Nobody's seen the video, nobody's you know, no again, I
can't even find anyone.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Who has seen the video.

Speaker 11 (27:21):
And so that's that's to me where I'm like, Okay,
well this has been around for four months now, the
video supposedly has been out there, and nobody's seen it.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Like I just don't I just don't buy that.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Hey, last thing here before we let you go and again,
thank you so much for taking the time. Here. Are
you enjoying this run as the lieutenant governor? Is this
something you want to do again? Do you want a
second term? If it came to that, well.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
Listen, even the even the arrows that come, the criticisms
that come. This is what I signed up for. And
I love America. I love the state. I love having
hard conversations. I got so frustrated over the last five
six years nobody was willing to have the hard conversations
in the public arena, and I just said, I'm done
with this. I want hard conversations. I want somebody to

(28:09):
get in there and shake things up. And that's what
I feel like I'm doing. And I'm not running for reelection.
This is not I'm not thinking like, hey, what can
I do to win reelection. What I'm doing is what
can I do to serve the people of Indiana. If
God opens the door for another term, praise God, I'll
walk through it. If he doesn't praise God, then he
doesn't do it.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't I don't care.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
I'm saying what I care about is the people, and
I want to have these conversations. And I feel like
nobody's had the courage really in the public arena to start.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Talking, and I feel like I am so you know,
that's that's that's my goal, and I do genuinely love it.
Like the people are awesome, even these.

Speaker 11 (28:46):
Town halls like where the people come out the radical left.
It I just I love even those people that are
against me, because gosh, people are engaging and I feel
like that's a good thing for all of us.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Mikeat we appreciate at the time. Thank you so much
for joining us, Manton.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Thanks you guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
That's Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck with If you want to
react to that, jump on the YouTube chat. You can
tweet at us at Hammer and Nigel Facebook, Instagram. It's
all there. We're going to do some caller roulette a
little bit later on right around five thirty.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Maybe even bring back a segment called to ask a
brit Yes, maybe we can do that. Is that into
collar roulette? Mix it all. You don't know what we're
talking about, will explain.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
All right.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So I posted a screenshot of what the Lieutenant Governor
I we're talking about in regards to Indiana and separation
of church and state. Like we only had a limited
amount of time with the Lieutenant Governor.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You could go back and forth about that kind of
thing for three hours in commercial free you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'm not going to waste the time we had reading
Indiana's Constitution to you. So I posted a little bit
of that so you can see the reference point. And again,
I am not anti religion at all. I am pro God,
I am pro Jesus. I pray every day. But I
want to make sure that the rules are being followed
in the state of Indiana. And that's all that conversation
was about. So don't get it twisted here. I'm not

(30:10):
some devil worshiping a hole. Just got some questions and
concerns that people might not know the rules in the office.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
There, Hammer and Nigel, do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 16 (30:23):
Well?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Hammer, the new national education numbers are in Boyd the
Department of Education. I wonder why people want to dissolve
the Department of Education and do away with this. I
couldn't imagine why.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Friend of the show Linda McMahon now head of all
of that.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Around the country. Twelfth graders reading and math scores have
hit twenty year lows, about a third lacking basic reading
skills and almost half lacking basic math skills.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Now, I don't know exactly what the parameters were of
coming up with these numbers. We did get a little
good news here in Indiana. The last round of testing
was up a little bit, but still it was like
a year maybe two years ago that Purdue University kind
of had to have a little speech with the state

(31:15):
of Indiana, specifically Marion County, saying, look, you're not preparing
kids to come into our university. We're going to just
not accept anybody if you can't do a better job
of getting your kids prepared for.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
College, just on a bigger level. That's why there's talk
of getting rid of the DOE is because it just goes.
It should just go back to the states.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Shockingly, when you get the federal government involved, it turns
to crap. According to these numbers, eighth grade students showed
a decline in science, marking the first assessment since COVID
nineteen for this subject.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
To Bevare I sucked at science too?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Really? I was awful at math?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like in math? How was that? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
English literary stuff. I could sit down right now and
bull crap my way through any paper and at least
get a C on it. But you give me a
math problem. Hey, fatty, do long division here?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
All right?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I let me get my phone out.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
These results do indicate, though, a downward trend and academic
performances compared to previous National Assessment of Education tests, which
is kind of how this country measures our progress. So
you look at the high school seniors, you look at
their numbers, and we're basically at a twenty year low NIGE.
But I'm confused. How is this possible when we've got

(32:40):
such brilliant and absolutely not chaotic or lunatic leaders like
Randy Winegarden that are in charge of the teachers.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
You know, Oh my goodness, we the.

Speaker 17 (32:55):
People United, mobilized and voted down this existential threat to
democracy and freedom. Oh, we continue the march for progress,
that we lay the foundation for a better future, and
that we sought to create.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Home more perfect union.

Speaker 17 (33:16):
Progresses possible, Keep marching.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Was she making that speech from Ukraine?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
That's right, she did go to the Ukraine, doesn't she?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Nobody ever, nobody ever understands and she has no idea
what she's talking about. When she says existential threat to democracy,
that's such an eye roll.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Why are you talking about Trump? Teach these kids to read,
Teach these kids the New Math. Like you can bitch
about Trump later on. Look at these numbers. Joe Namath,
do something about it.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
She may she may have a slight resemblance to Joe Namath.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I've never seen Randy Winegarden and Joe Namath in the
same room together.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
It was in my office. The hammers and I we
I have Austes right next to each other, and he
was playing that clip over and over. I go, who
is that broad? What are you playing? And also the
response back was it's Joe Namath, And I go, okay,
now I know who it is. Do you do exactly
who it was? Again, listen to the numbers twenty year low.

(34:22):
And this woman was the face of the Teachers' Union
once again talking about canceling student debt, the winner of
the Joe Namath lookalike contest, Randy Winegarden.

Speaker 17 (34:35):
That is not right, that is not fair, and that
is what we are fighting as well.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
When we say that's also good Lord.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
In a word, she said, it's a little howard Danish
at times.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Right there.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, so here, close your eyes and eyes. Okay, let's
do a little little virtual game here.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Now imagine that Randy Wininguard and Howard Dean are making love.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Okay. Oh no, that is that right?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
That is that right?

Speaker 14 (35:07):
That is that right.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's how it would sound.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
That's exactly how it would sound.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
That's not right. Nope, nope, not right. Too late.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
All right, here's a question for you.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Makes me ill. Do you buy this? Okay?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Donald Trump speaking about the woke agenda in this country,
and he says it's practically gone.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
So woke agenda is practically gone. It's deep seated.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
We have to make sure it's out.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
It's very bad.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's like a weed. Do you think you killed it?

Speaker 18 (35:45):
And then it starts growing again?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
So we have to be careful.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
So do you inter buy it? You understand what woke is?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
To me?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Woke is gender and race over merit at its base.
I mean, you can extrapolate, you can get into the
weeds and all that stuff. But I think woke started
disappearing on election night when Donald Trump was the overwhelming
way I mean, the swing states, like following up to

(36:16):
the election, all of the swing states were like, oh,
these swing states turrup for grabs. Trump's got to get
at least one of them to stay in it. You
got all of them, right.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
That woman who bought the celebratory champagne that looked like
every Karen that's out there with the glasses and the
short haircut. The elections about women's rights and women are
going to show up. Even women didn't like Kamala Harris. Now,
suburban white women they hate everything Trump. But for the
most part, everybody else, we're like, you know what, We're

(36:47):
done with this crap. It's ridiculous to think men should
be playing with women in sports. It's ridiculous to think
that a grown man should be sharing a locker room
with a woman like that type of stuff eventually drove
people away. Night's been a little bit since we've heard
from Tucker Carlson. I missed a guy oh Man when

(37:10):
they took a show off the air.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
How depressing?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Do you still watch the podcast? The Twitter feed?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Lindsey got me the year's subscription to his to his website,
and I do listen to his podcast sometimes. Yeah, I
do listen to his guests, but I like I like
the Tucker Carlson Show when it was on Fox.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I like the format. It was quick, and the monologues
were great. That's my thing. I like monologue, Ticker. I
get worn out by just interviews. Man like to me,
I want to hear the host doing his thing. I
don't want to hear interview after interview after interview. It's
boring and it's lazy. But monologue. Tucker boy, he was

(37:52):
a flame thrower on his Fox days. He was part
of this panel. It was a live podcast taping called
the All In Podcast. It's in front of a studio audience.
They sold tickets. You know, there's some other folks up there.
There's some moderators, but the headliners were Tucker and Mark Cuban.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, owner of the Dallas or part owner of Right
Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
And the topic of funding the Ukraine War came up,
something Mark Cuban's very passionate about. Sure, listen to this
little back and forth.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
Here, markle You can ask you a question, what's your
take on whether we should be sending money to Ukraine
or not?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Were you in favor of that?

Speaker 18 (38:31):
You know, I can make an argument both ways, and
half my family's Ukrainian from my grandparents, and so you know, personally,
I think we should help, but I don't have a
studied answer for you.

Speaker 19 (38:43):
Have you said how much money have you sent Ukraine?
So what do you mean by we? You're the one
who's family's from Ukraine? Like, why don't you send them
a million dollars?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Because I'm trying to fix healthcare?

Speaker 19 (38:54):
Why don't you fix their healthcare? If you're like so deep,
if you think we need to help, why don't you start?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
How about you?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
First?

Speaker 19 (38:59):
I noticed that it's never like even an option for anybody.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's like, we need to help. That's not what shared is.

Speaker 19 (39:04):
Forcing other people to help is not share.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Here's a good entity. Oh boy, was awesome. What is
the All In podcast? I'll have to go and try
and find that.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, they had a big audience. It was a live
taping and Mark Cuban and Tucker were the special guests
up there. Now, those guys don't agree on a whole lot,
especially Ukraine. And it's been a little while since we've
had audio of a Tucker de pancing of somebody presents.

Speaker 12 (39:39):
It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
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Speaker 3 (40:13):
You ever get bored just typing somebody else's name in
there and see if they got some money floating around.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Then, even just random names, yeah, sure all the time.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
I don't think it works that way. You can't just
walk into the uh No Attorney General's office. My name
is Nigel Leskowski. What's your middle name?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Is this anything? Fermented peaches in a dumpster from a
Kentucky moonshine distillery ended up getting eaten up by a
baby raccoon and the raccoon got hammered drunk moonshine drunk.
It was like wobbling around. Uh There happened to be

(40:53):
a nurse nearby.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I just retweeted it, miss I'm watching it right now,
and she was able to.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Give the raccoon CEPR and save its life. Here's Misty
talking about giving a drunk raccoon CPR.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
So our health apartment is right beside of kentucking me smoonshine.
They had put some fermiented peaches in their dumpster, and
I guess the two baby raccoons had got into the
dumpster and they were stuck. Everybody that was a ring
on was like, it's dead. I mean, it's just not
gonna make it. Immediately. I just started doing CPR on it.

(41:30):
I was tinkled today that he was able to join
its mom again. That poor little raccoon. I hope it
stays out of dumpster.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
She's literally and watching it and giving it chess compressions. Boy,
alcohol poisoning for a raccoon. I want some of that moonshine, right,
That's what I thought. That's the good stuff heaches. Especially, man,
I need to get back with my contact down into
Catur County.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Right, the illegal the stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
That ain't on a market Like I can go to.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
A liquor store and I can buy us some commercial
shine stuff and we can still dol moonshine, mondays whatever, right,
old smoke.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
My wife's my wife's relatives got a contact down there.
That's all Mason jars and with sharpie written on top
right white lightning. Oh, that's so we had like a
plethora of all those. Yeah, she gave me a bunch
of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
The kind of operation where if somebody got nearby, they
may go they might go missing, like can you think
about it? The fight song for my beloved Tennessee Volunteers
features a part about the murder of federal agents trying
to shut down the moon Shining Still. Once two strangers
climbed old Rocky Top looking for the moonshine Still, strangers

(42:48):
ain't come down from Rocky Top. Reckon, they never will.
That's the murder of federal agents trying to shut down
the moon Shining Stills back in the day in Tennessee.
My fight song is about the murder a federal agent's baby.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh dear Lord, that's dark. How did we get from
drunk baby raccoons to the what's the song top Rocky Top? Yeah? Wow,
look it up. I'm telling you wow.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
It doesn't specifically say they were murdered. But strangers ain't
come down from Rocky Top. I reckon, they never will.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I think the implication is there is this anything.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
A man in Canada was arrested after he was caught
driving through town in a child sized little pink Barbie jeep.
The police arrested him for driving with a suspended license. Shockingly,
he had a dui. Here's one of the onlookers and

(43:47):
the man who was driving the pink Barbie jeep, Andrew,
you're really.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Arresting them for driving a kid's cheap I want to
just want to get it a slurpee. I got lazy,
I didn't want to walk.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I did my hand signals and everything.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Barbie geep pink.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, he's right, that on the sidewalk and there he
was loaded. He got lazy. He wanted a today that right,
he wanted a slushy slurpy, A slurpy yeah. And so
he was driving on the sidewalk until there was a
closed lane and then he was on the side of
the road. And toy cars are considered motor vehicles. That's
why I can kind of think it's funny, like you

(44:29):
get pulled over driving a pink Barbie jeep and the
cop asked you for your license and registration, like you
just got pulled over in a jeep.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
There's no way he's got registration for the Pink Barbie zero.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
You're off on the side of the road doing tests,
doing sobriety checkpoint tests, and right next to you was
a Pink Barbie jeep. That's embarrassments, that's disturbing.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I don't need to put out a bedding line of
or it's betting line. You can just bet the over
on his blood alcohol context. You see somebody pulled over
on the side of the road in a pink Barbie
kids jeep hammer the over on their blood alcohol cons.

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So I don't understand. Was the Thumb fired from CNN
and they brought him back? Yes, see one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Same thing with old Lubin Jeffrey Tubin.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Right, Lubin Tuban was. But the Tuban's not there anymore now,
is he? Oh yeah, he's not full time. But when
they have a panel, yeah, they bring out old Captain
Lube and then just Stelter the Thumb. And we call
him the thumb because he actually looks like a thumb.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Right, if you hold your thumb out and imagine a
little face of concern.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
That's Brian Stelton's And he's their media like analyzer, contributor.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Correct, he's fat, he's bald, he covers the media. He's
the Thumb, and they fired him once. They brought him back.
Here he is talking about that brutal killing on the
North Carolina subway or train or whatever you want to
call it. The guy that had been let out fourteen
times previously, here's Bryan Stelter talking about the real victim in.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
All of this.

Speaker 16 (47:06):
Most murders in the US never become national news. This
one's gone an attention for a couple of reasons. Number one,
first and foremost, the recent release of that gruesome video. Second,
the energy from pro Trump activists. They picked up on
this video from local news and ran with it. It's
a little bit like the times when civil rights groups
have raised attention about police involved shootings. In this case,

(47:27):
it is Trump aligned influencers who are posting up a
storm about this case on social media. Really over the weekend,
Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trump aligned figures succeeded in
making this senseless death a symbol of big city crime,
and it's being used, as you said, Brian, as a
political symbol with MAGA media calling for more forceful punishments
and more incarceration. I have to say some of the

(47:50):
replies to Musks, some of the comments around the story
are baldly racist, stoking fear of African Americans because this
man attacked a white woman.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Ah, there, it is so hard the R word. We
finally get to the heart of the matter. Brutally murdered
because of racism.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
So, according to Brian Stelter, the real aggressors are maga
media and people who wanted to make this about race,
which would mean the victim is the guy that stabbed
the woman. Is that what we're doing here, is that
the angle that this guy wants to go down.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
The narrative that they pushed they, I mean, the legacy
left his media is that the GOP Republicans pounce on
this murder, on this heinous that we're pouncing, We're pointing
it out, We're pointing it out.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
The way that guy pounced on that woman, cutting her
neck and throat.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
The way that he was arrested fourteen times. And the
governor comes out and says, well, we need more we
need more police, We need more police. No, you don't.
You need a police and the judges to keep these
criminals in. These animals, straight up subhuman animals in jail. Right.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
The police did their job. You don't need any more police.
They did their job, they made the arrest. It's the
judges and the revolving door, which tell me if that
doesn't sound familiar of North Carolina's justice system that let
this guy out, violent offender He's beaten women, beaten his
own sister, multiple armed robberies. This guy had been let

(49:27):
out fourteen times and he brutally murders a woman. And
the Thumb wants to blame everybody else for the media
coverage here except for the.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
It's the murder ar Like, what in the world does
it matter that this happened a month ago when they
were only now picking up on it.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
It's insane that why it happened. That's the angle here.
But let's not get ourselves had it been the other
way around. Do you think the media coverage would be
different had that been a young black woman that had
been killed by some white guy. Do you think CNN

(50:08):
would have covered it? The Associated Press USA today, any
one of those outlets.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I do, but I well, they certainly did with the
guy the marine on the subway that was trying to
subdue the guy.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
That was Daniel Penny.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, Daniel Penny.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Oh, he was a He might as well have been
the joker in Gotham City.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
He was the villain, right, all right.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
So Abby Phillips, she has a low rated CNN show,
and she brought on Van Jones and they were having
a conversation about the guy that stabbed this Ukrainian woman,
and once again, racism is the biggest problem, not the
fact that there was a fourteen time violent repeat offender

(50:51):
out on the streets.

Speaker 20 (50:52):
You are mentally ill, you have a hard time knowing
that you are mentally ill. But also, I mean, people
like Charlie Kirk fan they've been looking for opportunities to
make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation.
And that's the part that I think he's almost giving
away the game. And it's sad to see a lot

(51:13):
of people going along with it.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
You know, I need to say a couple of things.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
One is, and what happened to that young woman was
horrible and it's everybody's nightmare. We don't know why that
man did.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
What he did.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
And for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did
it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
It's just pure race mongering, hate mongering. That's wrong.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
Then he says that if something like that had happened
the other way, there'd be sweeping changes in polls on society.
Where is the George Floyd Policing Act. It didn't pass
even when you had a white police officer murder a
black man on live television.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
The whole world saw.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
There were no sleeping changes. In fact, not one law
was fast at the federal level. So I think that's
an important thing to point out. The other thing is
you mentioned the thing about cash list fail I think
this is a big challenge that we have. Would you
have felt better if there had been cash bail and
the mom had come and put down one thousand dollars
to let him out. It's not about cashless bail or

(52:11):
no cashless bail. It's about the fact that we don't
know how to deal with people who were Okay, you.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Shouldn't have had any bail at all. You should have
been kept in prison or in jail.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
And listen, if they paid one thousand dollars and he
got out, all right, fine, that's the system. But a
lot of people can't afford one thousand dollars. And if
you keep these violent offenders behind bars, you will shockingly
see the crime numbers start to decrease.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Called a habitual offender fourteen times, I'm thinking bail doesn't
factor into the equation after fourteen arrests, all right.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Remember the old three strikes in your out justice approach.
Fourteen fourteen strikes and well maybe you get one more.
But I want to go back to something Van Jones said.
He was ripping Charlie Kirk for saying there's no evidence
that this was race related. There absolutely is. There's another

(53:06):
video that shows this guy walking away from the crime
scene and you can hear him repeatedly say, got the
white girl, got the white girl. Now I've got the
audio here. The audio is not the greatest, okay, so Alison,
make sure you turn it up just a little bit,
but you will listen. You'll hear some static in the background.
But this lunatic from the security surveillance video saying, got

(53:28):
the white girl, got the white girl?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I heard it.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
And he's walking away. He's got blood on him, starting
to drip. So don't for one minute act like race
wasn't a factor here. If you want to tell me
he was nuts, he's insane and we need to have
a conversation about mental health, I'm I'm open to that.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Did you watch but come on, did you watch the
actual footage? Have you seen the whole thing?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Ugh, I haven't watched it yet. And I noticed the
other thing that I was just like, nobody came to
her aid, except maybe afterwards. There was one guy that
was helping her right, that was on his knees, that
was holding her, But everybody else was just kind of.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
And it happened so quick.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well, I guess that's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And she puts her hands over her face. It wasn't
like she died right away. She puts her hands on
her face, and I think people are like, oh my god,
what's going on here? Maybe it was a state of shock.
I don't know. But again, if anybody is the victim here,
it's the actual victim. It's not the perpetrator because he
had a mental issue or people are being mean or

(54:38):
racist after all this happened. I don't care to quote
JD Vance. I don't give a bleep. Real quick here
before we hit a break big downward revision. In the
final Joe Biden jobs reports.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
You don't say.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
So, Nig's between twenty four and March of twenty twenty five.
These all fall in to the category of Biden jobs reports,
a decrease of nine hundred and eleven thousand jobs.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
The good Old Revision reports here is a big number,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
That's a big number. Here's Fox Business.

Speaker 21 (55:18):
This data covers from April of twenty twenty four to
March of twenty twenty five, and it shows the end
of the Biden administration was possibly not as big in
terms of job growth as first thought of this. Now,
the Biden administration they created in this period one point
seven six million jobs. So the nine hundred and eleven
thousand will be subtracted from the one point seven six

(55:41):
million jobs, which comes out to eight hundred and forty
nine thousand, showing the Biden job growth not as strong
as first thought.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
You don't say. Now, Look, I'm not gonna sit here
and gloat and laugh and oh that's great. No, that sucks.
That stinks. I don't like it when the president fails.
I expected it with Joe Biden, but I don't like
it having bad jobs reports, bad economy because I didn't
vote for the guy.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
No, that stinks. I wish the.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Numbers were better. But the real reality is the weekend
at Bernie's President was a train wreck. Now's you a
Chipotle guy? Is that what happens after you eat Chipotle?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yes, but give me q Doobo over Chipotle any day
of the week. Oh okay, okay, if we're comparing, I'll
take Kedobo over Chipotle if Lindsay loves it.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
What if I told you there was a buy one,
get one free promotion coming up at Chipotle?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
You look like their state burritos, State caeso burritos with
sour kaream and rice. They're all they're fine, just not okay, fine,
you had me at two for one.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
So Monday September fifteenth, after five pm, it's buy one,
get one free to customers wearing college football jerseys. It's
their college football day that they're celebrating. I don't know
why it's on a Monday, September fifteenth, but anytime after
five pm participating Chipotle restaurants Bogo discount will be in effect.

(57:17):
So if you show up in an IU Jersey, produce Jersey,
Notre Dame, whatever, uh, you get Chipotle protein and entree
by one get one.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Wasn't there a small problem with the Chipotle around the
corner downtown a couple a year or two ago.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Yeah, they had had a bad batch. They had a
bad batch.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
But yet No, I'm totally down with Bogo. I'm not
the big world's biggest Chipotle fan, it's sure same.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
You've got promo like that. I'm in. Now, are you
okay to wear a jersey? Because Rob Kendall and our
pal Jerry Lopez spanglish. They're so insecure. They feel like
if you wear a that's got another guy's name on
the back, like if you got a Peyton Manning college
jersey and that guy have I can't believe you're wearing

(58:08):
another man's name on your back. And it's always the
little guys to say it too, like Jerry and Rob.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
But I don't have a problem though. I mean, I mean,
I got a Peyton Manning jersey from back in the day, right.
I had a bunch of them and I threw them
away because I don't normally wear them anymore. But I
do I think I have. I think I have a
Reggie Wayne jersey and definitely a Peyton jersey.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Doesn't mean I want to be that guy. I'm supporting
the team. I like the way he plays the game.
You gotta support the team, right, that's all. I can't
believe you're wearing another man's name on your back of
your shirt. Just tell me you've got a little crank.
Instead of making that argument, just tell me you've got
a little crank and your insecure.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Now, if you were a jersey whearer and a face
painter alaf Seinfeld puddy, if you were putty, I might
have a slight problem with that. So face paints where
you draw the I think I'll draw the line and
face paint full, body paint full Yeah, yeah, I don't
want to see another man's bear chest with the sea

(59:10):
on it.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Okay, a question for you. Yes, Let's say you've got
tickets to the Colts and Dolphins game this Sunday. You
get to your seat, who would you rather sit next
to Adam Schiff.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Or the senator from California or.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Tony Katz in full body paint.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Oh, I'm going with Tony. Me and Tony.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
You're gonna party, even though he's gonna be all sweaty
and harry and he's got a blue horseshoe melting.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Oh No, I'm sitting at Me and TK are going out.
We're gonna have some fun. We're gonna down some beers.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
I'm going chef ou wow.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Shift wouldn't go into my seat, And you don't know
what pencil neck would do.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I don't think he could follow the game, so we'd
probably be quiet. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 18 (59:55):
You believe these characters are weirdos Himmer?

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Who would you sit? Is the biggest red ash in
Trump's In Donald Trump's administration, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Need to think about this one very long.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Is that the borders are the the ice gy Tom Holman.
Tom Holman doesn't put up with Jack Squat.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
He has very little time for your nonsense. So this
morning he went on with Mika Brazinski why he goes
on any show that'll have him, to his credit, and
they kind of had a spirited back and forth here.
So what's happening in sanctuary cities across America? Take Boston

(01:00:42):
for example. ICE is really trying to crack down on
these sanctuary cities because even though they can claim our
city is a safe place for these people, the Feds
don't acknowledge that. So Tom Holman, he's got his you know,
ICE guys in Boston, Okay, and their mayor, Michelle Wu

(01:01:05):
and their governor, they avowed to fight the Trump administration
over the deportation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
You want to keep the illegal bad guys here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Right, So Mika Brazinski, the female half of Morning Joe.
She was very disturbed that an ICE vehicle was parked
at a predominantly Spanish church. Now, mind you, the ICE
agents did not have any sort of activity in the church,

(01:01:36):
but they parked their vehicle there in the neighborhood and
went on did their business. Mika had a big problem
with that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
I see on the should this morning you have Governor
Heay talking about ICE do an enforcement operations at a church.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
They were parked there. They didn't do an operation there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
She said.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
They were parked in a public space legally, But.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
To say that and to push it out there for
fear in the immigrant community, agent's vehicle park street street
street waiting to respond to a criminal alien release pulled
aside the rope.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Okay, Mika, I don't think you're gonna win this one, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Tom Holman is like, Yeah, our guys parked there. I'm
sorry if it's a Spanish church, but they've got work
to do. It's a public street. They could park there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Knock off the crap. We're trying to get an illegal
criminal with the record off the street.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
And I'm glad you mentioned that, Nige, because then Tom
Holman just started rattling off some of the illegal criminals
they've already taken into custody.

Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
Let me tell you in the last couple of days,
of course, happened in Boston. They arrested Victor Gomez Paris,
the thirty three year old criminal alien from Guatemala, with
charges of aggravated rate assaultant battie with dangerous rep in
decent assault and battery and a victim fourteen years or younger.
They arrested Katie Espinoza, thirty fe year old criminal alien
from Columbia, with charges of aggravat as assault on a

(01:03:09):
pregnant victim. They've arrested Joshua Gonzalez, a twenty four year
old criminal alien from Dominican Republic, with charges for trafficking
heroin morphine opium, resisting police dis already conducting drug distribution.
They also arrested Samuel Armando Marrero, a twenty year old
criminal illegal anthem gaate modol opendon charges for sault and
battery on a child. So Mayor Wu and Governor Healy,

(01:03:34):
they all be calling Ice and thanking them for making
their streets safer.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Okay, she just has to sit there and eat it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I like howy started that out. Well, let me tell
you something, Join MESSI was brother like he was going
full halt Hogan. Let me tell you something, brother. Mika
said that Ice was quote disappearing people. And I know
this may come as a shock to you, notedge that
pissed off Tom Homan.

Speaker 8 (01:04:02):
I've done this show several times. Every time on your show,
I speak with integrity, I speak with honesty, and I
speak with facts.

Speaker 15 (01:04:09):
The bottom line.

Speaker 8 (01:04:10):
Is because a false narrative and you used the term
disappearing people.

Speaker 15 (01:04:16):
To the group.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
Citizens citizens, US citizens get arrested every day. You and
citizens get rested by police every day. Are they being disappeared?
You know, the laws are being they're being arrested, they're
being put in attention because they committed a criminal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Like what you're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
We're enforcing the law and arresting people here in violation
law that public states to trust. That's not disappearing people.
That's enforcing the laws of this country and make this
country safer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Do you realize what Holman is doing here? He is
making a case. He just listed off uh, criminal after criminals,
subhuman animal after subhuman animal that committed heinous acts. And
she's now having to be in the position to sit
there and defend well, they're just you guys are disappearing

(01:05:08):
these people. Well no that first of all, it's not
what they're doing. They're arresting them, right, and you're defending them,
Like I was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Waiting for her to start defending like the Venezuelan drug dealers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You disappeared those people. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, Like
the Democrats are in this position where they are having
to defend criminal, illegal, violent, criminal, illegal aliens that are
being deported.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
And this is what most of the country voted for.
And when I say most of the country outside of
a few major cities in our country, right the Chicago's
the Las the election is predominantly red. Even in blue states.
You get outside of pockets of LA in San Francisco
and California, you get up north, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
A lot of red.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
The country overwhelmingly voted for these policies of Donald Trump.
And I'm sorry if they don't accept the fact that
your little sanctuary city isn't recognized by the federal government.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
They were parked in front of a church, that's what
you got out of this. You can't be happy that
that list of sub human animals that have been taken
off the streets and gotten the hell out of our country.
You can't give any credence to that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Allison, have that second Tom Holman clip again because I
want you to listen to this. It sounds just like
if this were WWE Monday Raw and Tom Holman's in
the middle of the ring and he's got a microphone.
It's like he's cutting a promo.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
Let me tell you and the last couple of minutes
in Boston.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Let me tell you something, brother. Last night, you're a
city county council here in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Oh, they got a lot done, didn't they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Yeah, they said it's okay for kids to run around
in the middle of the night downtown because there are
no penalties.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Really well, no, there's a curfew. And the penalty of
that is you get picked up and you call your
mom and dad and they got to come get shift.
They don't come get you. They release you at like
five o'clock in the morning at this holding facility.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Okay, So the dad that's nonexistent, the mom that's either
working or asleep, or the grandparent that doesn't know, these
are the people that are going to be called and
they have to come downtown to pick up their maniac
youth that came down for a drug deal or a
fight of some kind and brought weapons. Sure, that's going

(01:07:42):
to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
What was proposed was a series of fines, yes, for
habitual curfew violators, not a once in a while thing,
not somebody who's car broke down after work or anything
like that. We're talking about habitual curfew violators. And apparently
that's asking too much from our city county council.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Well, that's a lot, yeah, party lines.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Michael Paul Hart. He even lowered the threshold of fines.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Recently ousted is a minority Republican leader, correct by some
of those other weasels in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Them, because they've got everything else figured out the city
of Indianapolis, everything else is smooth sailing. The problem was
the minority leader. Sure, but they basically cut things down
in half, from fifteen hundred dollars to up to seven
hundred dollars for the third offense, the habitual offense. But

(01:08:40):
the Christa Carlino's of the world, the Mascaries of the world,
the vob Osley's, the Jared Evans. No, that's asking too
much for parents to be accountable, So that's fine. Whatever
happens happens real quick. Hit me with some illegal.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Stuff, legal stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Crime punishment, judges, legal stuff, legal stuff, dateline, Washington State.
Washington State Patrol say a suspect was found in a
large kitchen refrigerator after he ran from police. So he

(01:09:16):
found like a kitchen fridge that somebody had sat outside
maybe it was trash pickup day and decided to hide
into that. That's incredibly dangerous. Does anybody remember the Punky
Brewster episode from the eighties where one of Punky's friends
locks herself in a fridge that was put outside. This

(01:09:37):
was a very special episode of Punky Brewster back when
those TV shows had very special episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Anybody remember that one? I don't. I do not remember
what happened. They did they die?

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Uh, they came close. They were found just in time,
taken to the hospital. But this was a big message
to kids, don't lock yourself in the refrigerator.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Great message.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Similar to the very special episode of Different Strokes where
the guy from WKRP owned the bike shop and tried
to molest Dudley. I still can't believe he took that
gig Bogs and I have talked about this in the past.
How would you like to be the agent of actor
Gordon Jump? Hey Gordon, Hey, everybody loves you on WKRP.
You're awesome. You're hot right now. This show Different Strokes,

(01:10:23):
it's number one. They've got a role for you. Do
you want to take it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Sure? What is it? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Follow me here? You're going to molest the black kids
in the bike shop. Oh no, I don't want to
do that. No, but my man did it. And it
was a very special episode of Different Strokes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Why those special episodes really got They pulled the heart
strings right for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
The Facts of Life very special episode episode where Natalie
got lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Natalie was the first to get lucky, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
So think about all the girls in that house, like
they were all, for the most part, pretty attractive. So
they thought it'd be a wacky twist if the fat
one got sexually active first, so they made it a
very special episode of Facts of Life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Are you really okay?

Speaker 9 (01:11:13):
As going to be okay?

Speaker 12 (01:11:18):
Are you okay?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:11:19):
I'm fine, I'm pretty freeking far from okay?

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Are you okay with this?

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
On Nigel Hammer, a woman in the United Kingdom was
awarded a forty thousand dollars payment in a lawsuit. Apparently
she called her boss a d head and then she
was wrongfully fired over it, but she got paid forty grand.
Are you okay with this?

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Well, passing out forty thousand dollars paychecks for a woman
calling somebody a d head is how it works. And
I'm in debt to a lot of women. No, I'm
not okay with this. Like, I don't think that's how
it work here in America. If I went to my boss,
if I walked back there to David Wood's office, or
if I went upstairs and started yelling at Andrea and

(01:12:10):
used the d head or something similar, I wouldn't go
to jail. But I also wouldn't be on the air tomorrow.
I'd probably be fired. You can't just pop off and
say that to somebody and then sue to get money.
I don't think that's how this works. Now, your pal
Louis is in studio right Look, get up to that
microphone here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Friend of the family has been spending in the past
two weeks here, had had an internship with Senator Banks
and this is your last couple of days here in
India before you start traveling again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
So how would this be in the UK. You're like
the expert here, right, you're the official British correspondent.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
If you went to your job or your supervisor or
your boss back over the pond and called them a
derogatory name, you wouldn't be fired over it.

Speaker 23 (01:13:07):
I personally think that you should be fired over it.
I mean, there's got to be some workplace ettiqua in place.
But on the subject of like suing it, I feel
like there is some similarity with the US, Like a
lot of people will just look trible. Yeah, she won,
she got that money. But maybe because it's made such

(01:13:30):
big news, it shows that it's more of an uncommon case.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
You're telling it's something a big picture of the UK.
I'm seeing a lot of people go to jail for
just saying things on social media and saying things out
loud on the street and and calling people names. That's
the priceless woman wasn't taken to jail, right, she was
given forty close In my.

Speaker 23 (01:13:57):
The d headword is a very common words in the vocabulary.
The whole free speech issue I've been asked a lot about.
I'm more of the opinion that there should be more
of a sort of hard line in what is free
speech and what becomes hate speech. The case of I've

(01:14:22):
forgotten the woman's name, the Reform she's she's now an
absolute fan favorite of Reform UK. She made direct reference
to inciting violence against one of the immigrant hotels. Now,
I think that's that's not.

Speaker 24 (01:14:40):
One thing, but offering your opinion and saying is another yes, no,
no opinion. Yeah, it's a gray.

Speaker 23 (01:14:50):
Line, but it's it's one thing that I've been asked about,
Like all you Americans think that we have no free speech,
and I think the problem is it's been driven this
idea that we don't buy the likes of Farage.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
What do you mean you Americans? Kid, buckle up. Anything
can happen here. Hammer and Nigel present Collar Roulette.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
So really, I have no clue what these people want
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
And that is somewhat of a bad idea when you're
a radio host, very bad.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
We have everything to lose and nothing to gain by
this segment, but a screw it, it's fun. Okay, We've
got a bunch of people standing by. We have no
idea what they want to talk about. But first I
have a question for our guest Louis the brit Yep,
since you've been in the United States, your favorite American
fast food?

Speaker 23 (01:15:52):
Okay, so well, you've got a lot more choices to
go for. My personal favorite hasn't necessarily been a chain,
but you're Buffalo chicken sauce, the Buffalo chicken spicier and
just the unnatural color.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Of it, that orange. Oh, it's just brilliant. What about
Do you remember a couple of years ago when we
went to the five hundred and I left. I left
a little bit ahead of you guys, and I stopped
and got a bunch of white Castle. Yes, yes, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
All the British people in the house were like mini burgers. Yes,
you never had that before?

Speaker 23 (01:16:31):
Yes, And I got taught why they're called sliders and
that it was brilliant. The other thing I would have
to say is dairy queen. Oh, yes, give me, give
me a bowl of buffalo wings and then a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Blizzard and I'm serving Americana.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
All right, let's get this thing rack in the rolling.
Our guy crazy Larry's up first, Larry.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
My man, you're up, not crazy, Larry. Look at my
Facebook at Larry Vaughan and you'll see why But in any.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Case, very serious Larry today, serious.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Larry, serious about this. But why is everybody attacking Pastor
Beckwid the one boy Rob. He can't get off of
beck With, I thank him and a duel are jealous
of beck With, and they're jealous of Todd Rokeita and
the one one other boy what's his name Selena's or
whatever it is, the secretary of state Diego Diego. Yeah,

(01:17:36):
he's ugly as hell, but he beat the one girlfriend
to get in there, so they need to leave him
alone and let him go ahead and run his business
the way he sees fits. But anyway, Uh, Larry vot
at Facebook today in Hammer and Nigel, your show is unpredictable,
mainly because of Hammer. You never know what he's gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
I could say the same your that's right back edge
of my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Much appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
On Facebook, he was very serious at first, and then
we got a boy. He's ugly, thank you, Larry. Uh,
Farmer Ryan is up next, my man, how are you hey?

Speaker 15 (01:18:17):
I'm doing good? And crazy Larry? Yeah, crazy, Larry is
crazy for anything. He just said, Wow, that guy's whacked
out of his mind. But anyway, hate Hammer. You just
asked the question. I wanted to ask Louie my favorite
fast food restaurant, so I can't do that, but hate Louis.

(01:18:40):
I'm a farmer. Rob Kendall gave me that nickname, so
I did not give it to myself. Hammer in agriculture
compared to what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
You have over there, agriculture US to the u K.

Speaker 23 (01:18:59):
Well, I've learned a lot about American agriculture. The I
guess the Shire scale of it it seems, I'll be honest,
I'm not too familiar with the UK agricultural scene. It's
still very important. I mean, our farmers in recent times
have been up in arms. I guess it's been popularized

(01:19:23):
by shows such as Clarkson's Farm. I don't know if
that is popular in the US Jeremy Clarkson Big sort.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Of what's the name of the show again?

Speaker 23 (01:19:32):
Clarkson's Farm is on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I felt like Trump for a minute. I can't understand
that's the accent. No, I have not heard of that program.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
But but you know, but in terms of size and scale,
you've been all over the state when you're interning with banks, yes,
and some major major field it was just a.

Speaker 23 (01:19:53):
Lot of rows and rows of fields of corn.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Yes, you get out of like the Metro area of India.
Other than a few parts. Yes, you're driving by lots
of farmland. I mean then you take seventy west and
you know, you get through Saint Louis, you start heading
toward like Kansas and then you know veer off into
Iowa and those places. I mean that's the heartland, that's us.
Michael wants to know. Remind everybody what part of England

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are you from.

Speaker 23 (01:20:20):
So I am from Nottingham, which is part of what
is known as the Midlands. So I'm about three hours
north from London by car. And the problem with the
Midlands it's a it's a great place, but it doesn't
have much sort of regional identity. So within the UK
and within the different accents and regions in the UK,

(01:20:44):
the Midlands isn't really known for much. I mean what
our major city is Birmingham. Birmingham does not show the
UK at its finest.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Okay, Okay, that's where as he was from.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Right.

Speaker 23 (01:20:58):
No, I'm not saying that Birmingham doesn't bring out brilliant
people and it's got a really good university there, but
just as a city it's it's not the nicest place.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Better representation of their culture. Downton Abbey, Jersey Shore.

Speaker 23 (01:21:20):
I'd say Downtown Abbey is the more stereotypical and all English.
Oh yes, yes, and that's still very part of it.
I went recently to the penrod Art Show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
I was back.

Speaker 23 (01:21:34):
I was back home, big stately mansion. You know, some
nice niche art stalls. I picked up some nice clay
from Cincinnati and I was like, this is this is
absolutely brilliant. I could I could do this all day?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
All right? Right on?

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Chuck is up next, Chuck, Welcome to the Hammer in
Nigel Show.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
No talking about culture, Louie, I don't have to capital punishment, do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
You capital punishment in the UK? You guys have the
death penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
No, guess what.

Speaker 15 (01:22:05):
Guess what, Louis, I'm gonna teach you some of them.
You're in Indiana.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
We actually have the ability to perform the death penalty
for a federal crime. So when they snapped that federal crime,
and with what happened to the girl over in Charlotte,
we may be able to actually hammer, we may be
able to find out what the odds are.

Speaker 15 (01:22:23):
He becomes the first oh Man willing to go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
I am a degenerate at heart, so I think I
think there's the money to be made here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Chuck, you and we're going to tailgate.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
We're gonna go up to uh, We're gonna go down
to teror hate in the federal death chamber. If this
guy ever gets the needle, and you and I are
going to tailgate.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
My friend, they.

Speaker 15 (01:22:41):
Only have to sell it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
You only need the head, my man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
I like it, Thank you. Brother David is up next, David.
Welcome to the hammer in Nigel Shade.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
David, how's it going, guys? Good?

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Hey.

Speaker 22 (01:22:58):
We live in a world just full of extremes, right,
I mean, in politics, you've got the far left and
the far right, and so many issues follow to one
extreme or another. And I'm of the opinion that the
answer typically always lies somewhere in the middle. And that's
one reason I really enjoy listening to you guys, because
you'll you'll beat on Republicans just as much as you

(01:23:19):
beat on the Democrat. And and that's my point is
the answer is in the middle somewhere, and that's what
we're trying to find. But what I want to mention though,
is vaccines and vaccine mandates. So you've got what I
think of it, What is it like twenty six or
twenty eight vaccines that these newborns are injected with, and

(01:23:42):
and and it basically you're it's almost coerced where.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
You got to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
You got to get it, you know, right.

Speaker 22 (01:23:48):
And then you've got now with that wants to I
won't say ban this, but you know they are going
to leave some of it up to choice. But once again,
the answer lies somewhere in the middle, because some of
these some of these vaccines really do perform what they're
supposed to do, you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Know, like polio for example.

Speaker 22 (01:24:07):
But what I want to know is why isn't anybody
ever talking about what's in these vaccines? So there's speculation
about what's causing these illnesses you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Uh, autism. Yeah, sure, that's been a big topic of
discussion over the past a couple of decades. Is you know, they're.

Speaker 22 (01:24:30):
Talking about it, But but why isn't anybody chasing the
manufacturers of these things and figuring out how to get
all this garbage out of the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Vaccine They all have a community.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough, man, because there's so much money, right,
big Farmer can buy off the politicians that they need
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
You get harmed by the COVID vaccine. If there's an
injury there, there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
And Big Farmer can buy off the media. When you
can buy off the politicians and you can buy off
the media, you can pretty much do what you want.
I think about how COVID was right. The politicians were
bought off this vaccine. If you get it, it stops
the spread the media they ran with it. Nobody knew.
They were all just talking out of their ass. Everybody

(01:25:14):
was they were making up the information, but it was
fed to us like it's been fact checked. That's because
the money from big Pharma came to the people that
can spread the propaganda. We get a propaganda problem in
this country. You can talk about all the vaccines you want,
but we need to figure out a place where we
can get legitimate information at a national level. That's a problem.

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Ben is up next?

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Ben? What's up?

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
Brother?

Speaker 15 (01:25:41):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
Yeah, I was wondering if there are orthodontists in the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Okay okay, leoie.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
That's a joke about your people's see.

Speaker 23 (01:25:53):
Yes, yes, that is orthodontis in the UK and very
good ones. I don't know where this stereotype has come from.
The British people have bad teeth. I mean, like like
the US.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Very street teeth, very good.

Speaker 23 (01:26:12):
Yeah, dentistry is after you leave. Education is privatized. You
have to pay for it. So maybe as Brits, who
are more used to healthcare just being delivered on a
silver platter, we are less inclined to follow up on
aspects like our teeth, which you need to be paid for.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Yeah, I get that, and listen. The stereotype for both cultures,
right is the British you guys have bad teeth, and
here in the United States we're a fat master. That's
who we are.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
We eat for every occasion. We eat to celebrate. And
I'm guilty as charged. Let's go to Charles. Charles, you
get to bring us home my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Okay, I'll making work quick.

Speaker 9 (01:26:58):
I swear, I swear to make her real quick. I
want to say God bless you guys for the super
work to do. Of course, Alice and the mistress of
all media there, of course you're a special guests. He's
be reg that's what two weeks or three weeks in
a row now, it's going to be one to get ready.
What does he does he think or what did he
think of Diana Rigg, who.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Starred in the.

Speaker 9 (01:27:18):
Original Avengers series back in the sixties when I was
in high school. That was the woman of women right there.
And she didn't open the door, she knocked it down.
And does he even a word the hell I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. For sure,
I have some some marvel.

Speaker 9 (01:27:36):
Well she was. There was a television series back in
the sixties called The Avengers Old Charles Well, I was a.

Speaker 12 (01:27:44):
Junior in high school and stuff. But it was a
fill up for ABC when they ran out of Old
Who Shows and brought that series over, and uh, it
was one of the big super hits. But Diana rig
about six foot tall. You have to see her in
the black.

Speaker 9 (01:27:59):
Leather fight out Sitt and everything else. She became from
nowhere to a superstar even I think, let's see Automation Secrets,
which told.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
You be brief Cherles talking about Charles, God bless you.
I appreciate you. All right, we can't end on that,
so let me ask you this question to do it
Like if I think of a hot British actress. Right,
I'm coming to the table with Elizabeth Harley. Oh yeah,
she still got her fastball and she's older than hell.

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Who is the hot American chick? Like if you could
shack up tonight with any American lady, he's got.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
A girlfriend back home because.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
She's across an ocean. It's a different if you could
shack up with an American woman tonight. Pick one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Who is Liberty?

Speaker 23 (01:28:43):
I mean, despite all her controversy, I'm gonna have to
say Sydney Sween all right now, just quickly before we end,
I just want to clarify something. Last week I got
a question about gas prices in the UK. Now I
got this terribly wrong. In the UK converted, we are

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paying per gallon six dollars fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Oh wow.

Speaker 23 (01:29:08):
So while you'll out here complaining about you about your three,
about your three dollars per gallon, just spare and little
thoughts to us across the pond, who every time are
paying six dollars fifty per gallon.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Understood, Louis my man give him around the special.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Briddish guy of the Hammer and Nigel Show. We've loved
having money. Thank you,