Episode #2033 - Hammer and Nigel Full Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos Man?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hammer? What what is it with this trend of violence
throughout the city? More violence last night anger concern from
the IMPD about the recent violent trend going on here
in the Circle City. It's it sucks.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
We have five murders in a twenty four hour span.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Five murders in less than a twenty four hour span.
And IMPD officer Tommy Thompson, I know Tommy worked with
Tommy before on some things.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Good dude.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
I can tell he's fed up with a lot of
stuff that's happening around the city, one of them being
the lack of cooperation by the community itself.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
So if you live in a community and you.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Know something's going on and you're not talking to the
police or you're not calling the anonymous tip line, it's
hard for them to protect your community.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hopefully someone's got surveillance camera. We need that footage. I've
said it over and over and again. That crime stoppers
number that three one, seven, two six two tips is
one hundred percent anonymous. Anonymous. You do not have to
associate to anything with the IMBD, but we will get
the information We need that footage. We need you to

(01:36):
step up and step forward. Think about your future, your grandchildren,
your children, their future in the city. We need to
remove the violent acts and violent criminals committing these acts.
Small amount of them, but we got to stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I feel like the anonymous aspect is great, but I
also would feel like if I lived in one of
those hot spots that I would get found out if
I'm turning people in.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Snitches get stitches, right, especially when it's such a revolving door.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I hate saying that out loud because I don't
want to. I don't want to tell people not to
do that. I don't want to discourage that.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
But if I'm living in one of those hotspot areas,
I don't know. Man.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
I'm with you, and I used to be on the
other side of that argument. If it's anonymous, why wouldn't
you talk to the police. But listen, they're gonna find
out and they're going to be let back out of jail.
This is Marion County. Do you know who the prosecutor
is here? Do you know how that office works. We
had a story yesterday about a guy who's been arrested

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ninety nine times in Marion County, and some of them
for serious offenses ninety nine. So I get why some
people are a little hesitant to talk to the police.
Not because they don't trust the police, they don't trust
the prosecutor. Here's a little bit more from a IMBD officer,

(03:08):
Tommy Thompson. Again, he was at the scene of what
was the fifth hobicide in less than a twenty.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Four hour period, five individuals than twenty four hours or
less four on Northwest District alone. Communities feeling this right,
it feels reminiscent of a weekend ago. These have all
been isolated incidents that every one of them were some
type possible criminal activity was a foot, But again does

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not take away the fact that we have victims who
are no longer alive. Their families will feel this real
and grieving. And then the other end of the spectrum
we continue to talk about is the individuals pulling the trigger.
We will find you and when we do, hold you accountable,
with the Marion County Prosecutor's Office and any other partners
we need to use to find you. And then you're

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going to have your family's gonna be grieving too. I
think if you're going to have a firearm. What actions
you use that firearm with? Is it lawful or is
it unlawful? Because people are getting hurt out here. It's
senseless and stupid.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I mean, I can tell he's frustrated, right, I get that,
and I also caught course. Maybe I'm looking way too
much into this niche Maybe I'm just over analyzing this,
he says. The prosecutor or whoever we can get something
like that to prosecute you, which tells me they're doing
everything they can to work around getting stuck with Ryan

(04:33):
Meers and his soft on crime policies.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I feel bad for these officers.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I do, because they're arresting the same people over and
over again. Now with that being said, there was a
part of Officer Thompson's rant that I wasn't a big
fan of.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
We have provided opportunities and options and resources through the city.
We continue to provide opportunities for juveniles, for adults. I've
given you everything, But what about our communities? What about
our communities who are out here right now? The last
scene I had children running around. I got children over
here behind the cameras. You think they don't feel this,

(05:10):
think about it when you're gonna carry a firearm, think
about the resonating impact you have on those communities because
it stings, it's scary for those little kids.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I hope you hear me and you think about that
when you carry a firearm senseless. Think about this grieving
family that someone's not coming back to. Think about this community,
the last community I just left a couple hours ago.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I know what it is. Your problem is with him
saying carrying firearms.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
It's not my fault, Officer Thompson. I've never been arrested,
I have never committed a felony. Don't wag your finger
at me because bad stuff is happening elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is that what he was saying, or is he was
saying carrying criminals carrying firearms?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Did you hear the word criminal in there?

Speaker 6 (06:01):
Though?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I didn't either, and that's why I took offense to it.
And again, I like Officer Thompson. Officer Thompson's a good man,
but he's wrong there. Don't point the finger at me.
If you want to point the finger about juveniles being
shot or people being you know, shot in the streets,
look at the families of the people that are doing it.
Look at your city county council who has a safety

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committee that doesn't want to meet and doesn't want to
talk about crime in this city or.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
They shut it down.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
They shut down debate that I didn't want to debate
the one thing they're supposed to meet about. So, with
all due respects, don't wag your finger at me for
being a law abiding gun owner. The reason I am
a constitutional carry citizen is because of the prosecutor in
this town where you can get arrested. Oh, I don't

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know ninety nine times before something bad happens to you.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I thought that was bull crap.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Nudge.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Are you sitting down? I'm always sitting okay.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
I want to make sure that you don't have drink
in your mouth because I don't want it there to.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Be a spectator.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I've got a diet mountain dew here is that should
I put it down before you tell me what you're
about to tell me.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
To quote the officers that arrested the naked Randy Travis.
I just want to prepare you for something. The US
government is shut down.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh, you told me you woren't me.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
The US government is currently shut down. No with the
exception of about the seventy five percent of people still
going to work, but other than that, yeah, it's totally
shut down. When reached for comment, literally everyone had this
to say.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I don't know how life can go on.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
With the government shutdown?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Is that the tostone that was? Well?

Speaker 4 (08:10):
But right now and this is true. This isn't a
AI bit or anything. If you call the White House
Comment line, I want you to listen to the voicemail
that Press Secretary Caroline Lovitt has on it.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Thank you for calling the White House comment line.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
Hello America, this is White House Press Secretary Caroline love It.
Democrats and Congress.

Speaker 9 (08:33):
Have shut down the federal government because they care more
about funding health care for illegal immigrants than they care
about serving you, the American people. Until Democrats vote for
the Clean Republican Bass Continuing Resolution to reopen the government.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
The White House is unable to answer your call or
respond to your questions. We look forward to hearing from
you again very soon, and in the meantime, please know
President Trump will never stop fighting for you. Thank you
and God bless you.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Strong voicemail?

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Is that real?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's real? Strong voicemail?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Right, You're going to some AI stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
No, that's the real McCoy.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Wow. Yeah, No, I mean the Democrat leaders are claiming
the government shut down was caused by Republicans, But every
single Republican voted to open the government. Nearly every single
Republican voted to open the government. And it has to
do with this illegal alien healthcare healthcare situation, right.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
The Democrats want federal money that will ultimately go to
states to cover the healthcare of illegal aliens. As to
where the Republicans are saying, We'll give the states the money,
but it has to go to American citizens. And this
is the little stalemate that we're at right now.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Nige.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
If you need a reason to drink tonight, Happy seventy
fifth birthday to actor Randy quaid Way cousin ed Is
seventy five Wow. Probably best known for his character cousin
Eddie in the vacation movies like Christmas Vacation or this

(10:17):
fantastic scene when they were going sledding.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Don't go put all that stuff on my sled Clark,
you know that plate in my.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Head and ever replaced because every time Catherine reaped up
the microwave, then hitched my pants and forget who it
was for.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Half hour or so.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Bigger movie Christmas Vacation or Independence Day with Randy Quaid.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Bigger movie, Well, bigger movie was Independence Day, but better
performance by Randy Quaid. Okay, Christmas Vacation, gotcha. Now I'm
gonna say something that could be viewed as a hot take.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Oh wow, his.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Portrayal of Cousin Eddie in Vegas Vacation just as good
as Christmas Vacation. I'm not saying the movie are as good,
but Cousin Eddie's lines in Vegas Vacation just as good
as Christmas Vacation. I ain't seen a beating like that
since somebody's tuck a banana in my pants and turned

(11:12):
the monkey loose.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Then you had Cousin Eddie at the buffet.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
Eddie, thanks for reminding me dinner, best bud, forty nine things,
and clerk.

Speaker 11 (11:23):
Unless you maybe I'll.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
We'll have some of the some of the yellow.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Don't get cheap on me at last, but not least.
But he's taking the tour of the Hoover. Damn.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I am your damn guide on No one wander off
the damn tour and please take all the damn pictures
you want?

Speaker 12 (11:46):
Now?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Are there any damn questions? Yeah, we're gonna get some
damn babs.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Happy seventy fifth birthday to Randy Quaid. I believe the
cousin Eddie of this staff might be Matt Bear. Matt,
what's going on?

Speaker 13 (12:00):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
This is Donald Trump?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
And the only people with worse are than mine are
the ones you are listening to right now.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Wake up losers Hammer and Nigel onivc oh Man.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm excited for this.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I woke up today Nige and said, it was the
month of October.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So when are you gonna start decorating for Halloween at
the Hammer household?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Three weeks ago?

Speaker 4 (12:28):
So with that, Baby said, from the people who brought
you legal stuff, from the people who brought you Indiana
stuff and even vaccine stuff. Oh it's October, baby, Craik
up the band. Let's do some Halloween stuff. Pumpkins, candy, costumes,

(12:49):
Halloween stuff. Alamo Draft House has a really cool promotion
going on every single day this month, taking you into Halloween.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Cianne is here from Alamo Draft House.

Speaker 13 (13:03):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (13:03):
I'm great? How are you?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And if people don't know what Alamo Draft House is,
it's on Lafayette.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Road, right, Yeah, Lafayette Road. It's the former Georgetown Cinema.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yep, been there many times when I was a kid. Yeah,
and you guys have done a wonderful job and just
revamping that.

Speaker 11 (13:17):
Yeah, whole new, revamped theater.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's incredible.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
So every single night you guys are playing a Halloween
movie starting now, going to Halloween.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
The thirty first, which I believe is it a Friday
this year?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean this is an amazing idea for
those who are looking for something to do.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Tell us about what's going on.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, So we kick off today thirty one nights of
Halloween at Alamo Draft House, and we're actually kicking it
off tonight with Rosemary's Baby and the old Georgetown Theater,
which is now our theater, had their premiere back in
nineteen sixty eight, so it's a special throwback to that. Okay,
but yeah, closing with Halloween on Halloween Night, but a
lot of really cool movies in between.

Speaker 11 (13:59):
Donnie Carrie. That's this week. We've got The Ring, Silence
of the.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Lamb, Oh, The Chainsaw Massacres tomorrow, culter Geist.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yep, Practical Magic. If you want something a little less scary.
We also have the trilogy Terror one, two, and three,
and that's supposed to be super gory if you're a
gore lover.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I've got video of Nigel doing some squat thrust in
the back. Does that count as a scary movie that
you guys can pla good good h Now, if somebody's
never been to Alamo Draft House, I know Nige referenced
it back in the day, Well the whole new ball game.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Now, I've been to the one in Austin. I've been
to the original one. I lived in Texas. We my
wife drugged me to uh god, what was that awful
bread Pitt movie where he was like born like a
baby man? Yes, Benjamin, but it was three hours long,

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and and I didn't want to go watch it, and
they but but Alamo Draft House just kept on survey meginnises.
Somehow I was able to make it through that three
hour long Benjamin Button movie.

Speaker 11 (15:07):
Even a bad movie is a good movie.

Speaker 13 (15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Bringing you cocktails every yes, absolutely, that's right.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
So you could get your drink on there and watch
a movie. I think this is an amazing concept.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, And we're a full scratch kitchen, so it's to
your seat dining, so you can order anything off of
our scratch menu. So we bred our chicken tenders, we
make the cookies in house. We make all of the
burgers by hand, all the pizzas by hand. So it's
actually really excellent.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
So all the food that sounds amazing, you guys are
making right there on the spot.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
And we've got several different flavors of popcorn. Suroh is
my favorite, but we have like a dill pickle ranch
and some spicy flavors too.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
We got The Exorcists coming up October twelve.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
D did you guys mention October twenty fifth, candy Man,
very very under have you seen it?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Oh yeah, this is not a movie about the nineties rapper, right,
this is not or I love you so never want
to let you go a minute.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
That's different.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, this is it gave me nightmares.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
When I was Oh yeah, And we've got the Rob
Zombie classic, The Devil's Rejects that hits its thirtieth anniversary, No,
twentieth anniversary.

Speaker 11 (16:12):
Really yeah, twenty years already?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, and then you're capping it again off October thirty first,
that's right when Halloween.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Yeah, Halloween classic. Encourage everybody come in costume to have
fun with it. Come come, make a splash with your costume.
Get some pictures taken, get some food, drinks, alcohol, anything
you want.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Dude, this is like the perfect date night things, right,
if you're going out with your girlfriend, husband, wife, whatever
it is in October, make plans for this because this
sounds amazing. All right, So you've got to list to
some of the films in front of you. Which ones
are your favorites.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
So I really love Late Night with the Devil. I
think that's an incredible movie. I am a big rob
zombie music fan, and I love his films, So I
like a little bit of everything.

Speaker 11 (16:55):
I like the high Gore.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I don't see you as a dragula girl. Oh rocking
out dragula karaoke?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Dis Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 11 (17:03):
Yeah, I know every.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Song I saw you got Amityville is it the original? Yeah,
Amityville Horror on October seventh. That there's a scene in
that that left an impression. Like I told, I tell
him all the time. I went to my dad's house
on the weekend and we would watch what he wanted
to watch. He made me watching Amityville horror. That's just
one scene where James Brolin takes this axe and just

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just do you know what's seeing him referring to and
takes it to Margo Kidder's head.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
And it just explodes into blood.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
It just it's but it's that's that's what this is
supposed to be on the big screen. Probably cheer for
that moment raft out.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, and then Day of the Dead this year reaches
its fortieth anniversary, so big.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
What time did the movies play?

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Most of them are in the evening, so between that
seven and ten o'clock time. Again, this is very much
some adult films, So don't don't bring the kids for
this year, right right?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
And how can they get tickets? Can he buy him
right there at the door or they got a pre order?

Speaker 11 (18:10):
Yeah, it's best if you pre order.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
We are selling out quickly on some of these, so
get your tickets fast at Alamo indie dot com and
that way you can pick your seat.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Alamo indie dot com. Check it out. You can see
the food, you can look at the drinks.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
You can watch any one of these movies every single
night now through Halloween.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Uh, this is amazing.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Thank you guys for coming in and I see you
brought us some stuff in the back.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
What do we got back there?

Speaker 11 (18:34):
Advertisers, cookies, pizza.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh man, Yeah, that's it, CNN, Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
To listen to The Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
My name is Jason Hammer. Big Nige is in the can.
He'll be here in just a moment. But joining us
in studio from the WIBC newsroom, John at Crue. They're
not doing They're saying, crew, how are you?

Speaker 7 (19:06):
I'm doing fantastic.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Before we get into what's going to basically be a
debate between myself and you girls.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
So now it's a debate.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
It is Oh, it is okay, bad Bunny halftime show discussion.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
All right, I will debate you on it.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
But you are one of the members of our amazing,
award winning newsroom.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
What are some of the stories we should be keeping
an eye on today?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Gosh, Well, obviously the whole shutdown is happening, and obviously
you guys know that, and so we've been getting lots
of updates between both sides blaming each other. So that's
been kind of fun. I did do a story earlier
today about Jefferson Shreeve. He's actually donating the part of
his salary during the shutdown to the Boys and Girls
Club in Franklin.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well that's something. Okay, try and graber guns during the
mayoral race. But hey, at least he's given back to
the Boys and Girls Club.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Okay, exactly, all right.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
The new Indie homicide report just came out since it's
October first, So we've had one hundred and twenty three
homicides so far, but fifty six have been cleared. So
apparently that is a forty five percent.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
What do you mean by that there's rate rich self defense?

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Well, no, it's saying that so far for the year,
we've had one hundred and twenty three homicides, but fifty
six have been essentially prosecuted, arrested, they've found out, Like
who don't Okay, I think so, then the rate now
because of that? Is that fair?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Because I know at the beginning of the year you
had the Mayor's office really trying to push this thing
about not reporting self defense homicide and an attempt to
keep the numbers down, which okay, listen, I'm all for
self defense homicides, you know me, but we've always reported
the numbers that way. To be consistent, you have to
keep doing the same thing.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Right, absolutely. I know Ryan Hedrick did a story about
it earlier. He said something that he found was a
lot of it is just dealing with people just don't
know how to not have an argument that doesn't involve
killing somebody else.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
So let me just say, and I know that's a
serious subject for you and Ryan Hendrick, both on social media,
whether it be TikTok or the reels or Instagram, have
been doing a tremendous job in covering, thank you, some
of the some of the more serious and hard hitting
stories here in this city. Yeah, it's been incredible. Yeah,
real asset to this station and even our show in

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the afternoon. We we like having you on.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
You guys have been fantastic.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
And the video that you guys do to put sometimes faces.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
With the audio that we hear top notch. So let
me tell you why you're wrong about Bad Bunny being
the best.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I know.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
No, see you and I defer on some things. You're
you already assuming something that I haven't even stated. Okay,
so let's back up that though.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay, he's already telling you how it is.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Now tell me if I'm wrong, tell me if I
looked at the situation incorrectly. We talked about Bad Bunny
being announced as the halftime show a couple of days ago. Yes,
and again, please tell me if I'm overstating this. You
texted me fifty seven times in a row and said
that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
You're racist. I can't stand you don't understand what's going
on here?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Do I have that wrong?

Speaker 8 (22:14):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (22:14):
You have that wrong? What are you talking about? All right?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Tell me why it's a good show?

Speaker 7 (22:19):
So well? The whole thing, The reason why I just
even texted you to begin with, is because I'm a conservative.
I'm a Latina. And so here we are a few
weeks after all of us, you know, basically got PTSD
over somebody being assassinated in front of our very eyes,
all over social media and in the newsroom. Right, so
we come from this side on the right, or people

(22:40):
who are more conservative, wanting to talk about, oh see
what this other side is doing and doing all of that.
Right here we go, something else comes into the news,
and what do we do? Then I get on social
media as a person who's more conservative than Latina, and
then I see basically the people that are supposed to
be the voice of reason right now saying the complete opposite.

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So I'm like, Okay, did everything just go out the
door right now? A couple of weeks ago, Okay, that
was my problem. So now the people that I align
with most of the most of the time, I always
like to say, like I I'd rather not to consider
myself a Republican or a Democrat or independent, like I
follow Jesus, because that's why I an good answer. But

(23:22):
now you're turning me off. Understood, I see some of
those things, and so it's just a lot of ignorant
compliments are not compliments comments that I see that I
don't like.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
I'm coming at this from a marketing perspective, not a
conservative perspective. But I'm thinking, this is an American football,
It's an American sport.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
We're pretty much one of the only countries in the.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
World that play tackle football, like the version of football
bad body songs, and you would know more than I
don't have a lot of English to it. Why would
you book a guy that doesn't speak a whole lot
of English and his songs to an American football show.
It would be like in the World Cup if Brazil
was hosting and we had Morgan Wallen doing a halftime show. Yeah,

(24:06):
that wouldn't make sense there, And I don't think this
makes sense here.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Yeah, I come, I see it. Yeah, when it was
first announced, I was like, wait, what, Like that's that's
definitely an interesting move, especially for somebody who only sings
in Spanish, right and raps in Spanish, and nobody's really
going to understand what he's saying. I do know from
a worldwide perspective, he is a worldwide audience, and I
do know the NFL is trying to capture that a

(24:31):
little bit more, and so I think they're banking on
that so that they can make a bigger presence, and
so I think that's their reasoning behind it. Also, obviously,
I think they're just like, okay, you know, somebody else
is obviously running and booking the talent. And I do
know he wasn't the first pick.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
And we think it's Jay Z because he's got good
ties with the NFL front office and Roger Goodell's always
worked with him. And there are all these theories that
they offered it to Taylor Swift and she said no,
and they could come up with some sort of deals.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Yes, I heard that too, and it feels like.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Bad Bunny and jay Z might have a little bit
more of a relationship. Yeah, but I just didn't think
it was a good match for this sport.

Speaker 11 (25:09):
No, I one like.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
When I saw it, I was like, I was really
surprised because I think, too, this is the NFL, you know,
you do want It's so hard to cater to every
single person.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It is because I'm forty nine years old and I
had never heard of Bad Bunny until they made the announcements.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah, and I thought it was to cash me outside.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
What is a bad Bunny is what I kept seeing.
And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I need to
educate some people around here. But it's fine.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I need an edumacation edumcation.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
I just did not like like the already. I saw
the racial comments going up and conversations about ice and immigrants,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, there were US citizens.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Okay, now hold on the ice thing, because your.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Boy here, he said he didn't want to perform in
the UK and.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
The continental United States because he was concerned about ice.
And he's not somebody that can have his values easily bought,
unless this is half time at the super Bowl that
he throws all those values right out the window.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
Job. Yeah, totally. I did see what he was talking about.
I know he said more so when it came to
having the concerts and touring the US. Obviously you have
different types of seats where you can purchase. Not so
many people can go to the super Bowl and afford
what like a twelve thousand dollars ticket, right So obviously
it's a little bit more of a different atmosphere, and
I think that's what he was thinking about. I mean,

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I do have to admit if I was an artist
that catered mainly to the Latino population and all of
this was going on right now, I think I would
feel some sort of responsibility as as an artist. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you mean by that? To do what? Say something?

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Do something say like I with the climate that's happening
right now, with ice and immigrants and all that happening
within the United States, if I decided I was going
to continue and do my tour because mainly all of
my audience was Latino and if something were to happen,
I would feel responsible.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Right, But also I think there is somewhat maybe humor
is the right word.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I don't know, if you're going to be the hot take.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Guy and say no, no, I'm not coming to the
continental United States because of Ice, and you say you're
going to do the super Bowl, I think it would
be irony, at the very least somewhat comical if I
shows up at the super.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Bowl and says, hey, I feel like I saw something.
I can't remember what it was. I was in between
newscasting today and I thought I saw something to the
effect that it was made known that Ice was going
to be at the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I mean, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Ice away, which doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
The super Bowl is the most secure thing in the world. Yeah,
Ice is going to be there. The FBI is going
to be there, Snipers are going to be there there.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
I mean they were probably scheduled there anyway you could
book Clay Achin at halftime, and Ice was probably going
to be part of the security team that's going to
be there.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Mm hmm okay.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
Yeah. So I mean he decided just to take his
chance on this one event that he's going to have
and which is a super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Doesn't make him h little maybe.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Just absolutely, I would say a little bit. Yeah, you
stated one thing and then all of a sudden, you're
changing your mind. I mean, who's to say you're not
allowed to change your mind?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
But in absolutely allowed to change your mind.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Yeah you can, but also kind of be a little
bit more authentic about it, like, look, you know, yes,
this is the way I was feeling when I started
this tour. Now that I've done my entire residency in
Puerto Rico and I'm trying to figure out what my
next steps are. Maybe I should come back to the US,
and maybe things have done things a little bit differently,
and now I feel like I can come back and
do that.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Here, Tyler on the YouTube chat Hammer, your YouTube camera
looks way better now for some reason.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Do you have so do you have a daily podcast
or weekly thing that you.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Do too well, It's called Behind the Filter. It's a
weekly podcast. It comes out every Thursday, and so I
like to call it it's a no niche podcast. So
we talk about everything, and I have my best yan.
We do like a girl Talk edition. I have more
of an interview style segment where I talk to people
here throughout the throughout the Indianapolis area and the state
of Indiana. And then I do like more of my

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newsy where I talk about a lot of the news
that you really don't tend to get over, like a
twenty four hour news cycle, or I do the opposite,
where it's like things are just popping on social media
and I have to try to move.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
We want to come out, We will to come up,
yes right, yes.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yes, yes, because we have to pay it back.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Because for those who don't remember, when John Nette came
in to do Celebrity beer Bomb, it was.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
One of the great in studio visits of all time.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
She's talking about being underage teenager getting loose in Tijuana,
was drinking tequila, doing grown up stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I saw it on YouTube, but I missed it in person.
That's one of my life's great reward.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Yeah, I've lived a fun life.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
You have. Where can we follow your work everywhere?

Speaker 7 (29:45):
I'm just known as just underscore at John at Cruise,
the John at Cruse, so you can follow me everywhere there.
So on Facebook it's John att Cruse, Instagram, the John
att Cruz ex the John at Cruise.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Will Nigel and I enjoy the halftime show?

Speaker 7 (29:57):
I would think that let me let me just tell
you cannot listen to like any type of Spanish music
and whether it's like sau submitting or reggaeton and not
just want to move your hips a little bit.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
You don't want Nigel to move is you don't. Nobody
wants that. Nobody wants that.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
To be doing like the salsa with Lindsay down in
the base.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
I think I think he's going, you know, now that
this has been a decision, I think it's going to
They're they're probably going to use a lot of different
other elements in it so that other people can feel
I think represented right, and it's not only just bad Bunny,
but it's going to represent other things.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
And just so you know, if it's not food Fighters
every year, Nigel's gonna bitch and moan anyway.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
Okay, seeing I would complain, If if I would complain,
I'd be like, who's Foo Fighters?

Speaker 6 (30:43):
That's me?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Thank you the hammer and Nigel show. I can't believe.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I mean I should, but I still have a hard
time believing that that violent habitual and that's an understatement.
Offender that stabbed someone to the point where he got
an attempted murder charge has already been softened by the
prosecutor's office.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Downgraded was the word that Rick Snyder used. But you
have to remember too the background. He's been in jail
ninety nine He's been arrested ninety nine times, right, ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Nine times, ninety nine times. But the judges and the
prosecutor's office should be ashamed of themselves. And you know
who else should be ashamed of himself, people who have
voted for Ryan Meers. Look, I get it, you might
hate Republicans. There's a lot of Republicans that hate Republicans.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I get that.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
You don't have to be a Republican to vote out incompetence,
because there are certain positions of power where politics should
not be in play. Like I don't care if you're
a Republican or Democrat coroner. I don't care if you're
a Republican or a Democrat surveyor. And I don't don't
care if you're a Republican Democrat prosecutor. You should just

(32:04):
follow the law. And Ryan mears he would rather be
a public defender than a prosecutor. And when that ball
headed goon and those Jordans gets out on television and
starts doing a victory. Lap On, Well, the crime is down,
kiss my dad, fat Beech Grove backside, and you're so
full of crack.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
It ain't down the past couple of weeks. I can
tell you that for sure, right, And.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
It's all the way down from the record level that
you're responsible for.

Speaker 10 (32:30):
Down for the past twenty four hours. I mean, five
popset sucks. There's no doubt, Boss off set sucks. Merrors
is worse. Merrors is worse.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Your prosecutor and his predecessor was a Democrat, And I
had no problem with Terry Curry. Terry Curry was a Democrat.
I thought he did a good job. But Ryan Mears
would rather be a public defender. And listen, I don't
care if you're white or you're black, if you're a
Republican or Democrat, you want to live in a safe neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You want a safe community.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
You have to have faith that your elected officials, whether
you like their politics or not, are doing the best
they can to make sure you are living in a
safe Indianapolis. Ryan Meers is doing the opposite. But I
feel like I'm old man yelling at the cloud. He's
going to win by sixty percent of the vote if
he decides to run again, because there's a blue D

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next to his name, that's it. You're a Democrat in
Marion County. Usually the Republican Party throws up there somebody
that is either a sacrificial lamb, or if they're a
good candidate, like Cindy Carrasco was for the Prosecutor's office,
they've got no shot because people just vote straight party ticket.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's awful.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, we know hog Sead doesn't like Mears.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
That wasn't his choice when Terry Curry passed away. It's
up to the mayor to select a choice, and then
the council gets together and then they pick somebody that
wasn't his choice.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
He wanted somebody else and Joe hawk Set.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
You guys know, I am certainly not somebody that's going
to invite him over to watch the Colts game this weekend.
But if I have to pick my poison here, who's
worse for Indianapolis Joe hawk Set or Ryan Mears?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's Ryan Mears.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Some of the judges.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
The judges too. Yep, you're absolutely right, Stoner. Oh he retired,
But just when you thought you were, you know, clear.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Of that guy.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, he's now one of the fill in judges. So
if somebody goes on vacation or somebody gets sick or incapacitated,
here comes this loser that we thought we were done with.
I'm telling you there's a reason why Indianapolis has a
higher homicide rate per capita than Chicago. It's your elected officials,
it's your judges. It's not the gun that magically floats

(34:54):
up into the air and pulls the trigger. No, it's
the violent repeat offender that's out on the street, and
it's probably been put out there by the people you.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Have voted for.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
At the very least, hog Set circumvented or went around
Ryan Mears with the US Attorneys and swore in special
attorneys to federally prosecute violent crimes in Marion County because
Ryan Mears wasn't doing his job right.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Like, Ryan Mears should be embarrassed by all of this,
but he's not because he doesn't care. He wants to
be the mayor, that's all he wants to do.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Good luck, Hammer.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And Nigel, do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well, Hammer, I've I've had a couple of different meltdowns today.
I think you were witnessed to one of them. Behind
the scenes. We don't have to get into it. You
when Hammer, when Hammer has to ask me if I'm okay, You.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Know, I was the voice of reason.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's a reason that was second that happened. Second. First
is when I woke up, I had a meltdown. My
wife has had a town, my dog is pooping its crate,
my puppy is just everything's doing crazy. And then on
top of it all was that I saw that the

(36:26):
government shut down, and yeah, it's been a stressful day
for me. How about you?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I called one eight hundred and nine with It, the
Gambling Help hotline, and said, uh, this isn't really a
gambling issue, but I don't know who else to turn
to because the government is shut down.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I just need somebody to talk to you right now.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
The Gambling Gutline.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
I will not confirm nor deny that my friends and
I have gambled on whether or not a man or
a woman would answer the phone at the Gamembling hotline.
That's a true story. But I walked through my neighborhood.
I was listening to dust in the wind. How can
I function when the government shut down. Now, seventy five

(37:14):
percent of the government's still going to work, still getting
a paycheck. But it's just the twenty five percent that's
the loudest, biggest pain in the ass that want you
to believe your lives have come to an end. Most
Republicans and Democrats heard the news that a government shut
down has taken place, and they looked at each other
and did that predator high five, like you know you

(37:35):
saw in the movie with Carl Weathers and Arnold Schwartz.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Nature. That's what's bringing people together.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
So the only people that care about this are the
people involved in it. Most of the people in this
country most, not all, but most are happy that it's closed.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
You guys, can't cause any more chaos.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
You can't spend any more money if you're shut down,
even though seventy five percent of them are still going
to work. Maxine Waters mad Maxine Vaccine Waters. She was
protesting outside the Capitol when a reporter came up to
her and basically questioned if the rumors were true that

(38:17):
the Democrats are holding out because they want money to
go to healthcare of illegal aliens, want.

Speaker 14 (38:24):
To prioritize the healthcare of illegal aliens over a government shutdown,
because if the government does shut down, American.

Speaker 12 (38:30):
Excuse me, stop it right there. We're not prioritizing. What
we're doing is saying simply, we want to keep the
government open, and we want to work with the Republicans
and have a bipartisan agreement to keep this government open,
and health care is at the top of our agenda.

Speaker 14 (38:48):
Are Democrats demanding health care for illegal aliens?

Speaker 12 (38:51):
That's right, Democrats are demanding healthcare for everybody. We want
to save lives.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
We want to make sure.

Speaker 12 (39:00):
Sure that healthcare is available to those who would die
but having the help of their government.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Listen to the way she talks about herself.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
You people would die if it wasn't for people like
me sticking up for you. She's an idiot, Like, listen
to her speak. She's an idiot, and yet she's in
charge of our part of it, our national securities.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Our healthcare system's encouraged violence before. Oh yeah, towards the
other party. Pushed back surround them.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
You see them in a crowd, you gotta push back
on them. That moron and her big wig. Here's a
little bit more of some reporter grilling her.

Speaker 14 (39:45):
So you're good with the government shutdown, even if it
means giving health care to people who aren't Americans.

Speaker 12 (39:51):
Well, you keep that's what you're pushing on. What you're
trying to do is you're standing here and you're trying
to make me say that some how we are going
to put non citizens over Americans.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Quit it, stop it.

Speaker 12 (40:04):
This is the kind of journalism we don't need.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
You have.

Speaker 12 (40:07):
Divisive No, you're not you're being divisive. No, please don't.
You don't need to ask that question. You're just trying
to get controversy here.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
You're not going to get it from me.

Speaker 12 (40:17):
We want to save health care for all people.

Speaker 14 (40:20):
Thank you, Thank you, Congresswman, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, all people, including people that are here illegally. Democrats
have lied about the shut down to protect unfair, illegal
alien health care. Democrat leaders claiming the government shut down
was caused by Republicans. Hammer that was the government shut
down by Republicans, because because every single Republican, almost every

(40:47):
single Republican in the Senate voted to open the government
and even some Democrats did too.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
And we're going to talk about this with Tony Kennett
when he calls in here and just about twenty minutes
from now. Because Chuck Schumer, he's kind of limping to
the finish line as the face of the Democrats despite
having no support in the back. Everybody's laughing at him.
He's not creating any energy. And I don't think he

(41:16):
understands that the Internet exists, because he's saying the total
opposite of the last government shutdown.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
He's still doing dial up, even though dial up I
believe into today AOL.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
He's got the dialogue.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I can't get the dial up to work in today.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
And it goes back to cook those frozen burgers on
the grill with the cheese on top. Dateline Chicago, some
ice raids beginning the violence Venezuelan gang trend to Agua.
They had a big raid in the South Short neighborhood
of Chicago. The raid involved several agencies, three hundred federal officers.

(42:00):
Tons of arrest took place. I believe the ICE agents
also arrested the Chicago Cub's bats because they haven't been
able to find them today.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
But no, I'm all for these ice raids in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Where they were the Ice agents wearing masks.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
For God's sake, that's a big deal in California. Take
them off, Gavin Newsom will not stand for your Ice
agents wearing masks.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Antifa.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Sure, put as many on as you want, have I
five or six of them on, It's fine, but ice agents,
my god, better not put those things on Dayline, Colorado.
A man suspected of committing multiple robberies in Colorado was
spotted because he was walking around in the background of
a live TV shot while they were filming a segment

(42:48):
how about Him. He was arrested ten minutes later after
viewers were like, Hey, that's the guy. Here's the moment
that the reporter justin Adams spot did the suspect?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yo, hey put the camera on him?

Speaker 13 (43:03):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
You seen this pertson right here?

Speaker 11 (43:06):
Is this him?

Speaker 13 (43:07):
Would it be crazy if we actually found the guy
right now because we saw a person who was literally
fitting the description.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Who just walked down walked by her camera. Dude, you
would have been a hero if you would have went
and tackled him right like if the guy. I don't
know if the guy was armed or not, but if
you that as viral as that clip is now, could
you imagine if you were a reporter on scene and

(43:37):
you saw the guy that they were after, and you
tackled him.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
You just tossed the mic like a wrestler and ww,
that's in the ring. You toss the mic then you.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Start going at it.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
That had been amazing, Like he'd be booked on every
you know, news outlet of this country. He'd be a
vinal storld right, just from what I gather I read
up on this. The reporter Justin Adams, he started getting
messages on like the live feed, like we have a
live YouTube feed here on our show. He started getting

(44:10):
messages of listeners going that's the guy that totally looks
like the guy. So he's looking at messages in real
time and he's like, wait a minute, I think that's
the guy.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
A couple in India they're getting a divorce.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Oh no, because of irreconcilable pets. The wife's cat, the
husband's dog, to say differences, No, no, no pets, the
wife's cat, the husband's dog.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
They're not getting along.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
So they put on the document that they filed irreconcilable
pets and that's grounds for ending the marriage.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I think that's probably that's legit. What are you supposed
to do? What are you supposed to do you're living
with uh? Are you gonna put something down? Are you
gonna you're gonna put You're gonna put one of the
pets down?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Or maybe you just try your best to separate him.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I don't know, but I feel like there's gotta be
a better solution.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
It doesn't feel like they want to put in the work,
and it has more to do with them than the pets, right.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
And I feel like this is probably just the cherry
on top of the Sunday, Like he's probably cheated on
her and she's probably gone out turned trick after trick,
but they're gonna blame.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
It on the pets. I've seen it a million times.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
So the Hammer and Nigel Show, my name is Nigel,
Jason and Hammer right over there when they're any special
guest on the hotline.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
He is an investigative reporter for The Daily Signal and
he's also the man that hosts the Tony Kennett Cast
Monday through Friday, seven pm. Right after our show here
at ninety three w IBC. Tony Kenneth joins us and Tony.
I don't know what I'm supposed to do with myself.
I'm walking around, I'm kicking rocks. I'm listening to dustin

(46:05):
the wind. How am I supposed to go on with
life knowing the government has shut down?

Speaker 13 (46:12):
I mean, look, we all grieve in our own ways.
I stood outside the post office this morning cried for
like fifteen minutes with a tragedy. But then I got mad,
and I'm mad for the first time at our vice president.
I'm mad at jd Vance. Oh yeah, wolla, And let
me tell you why. Because that man who I helped

(46:33):
get elected, I was so supportive. Now he has said
that if the government, if the Democrats cave and the
government reopens, then the memes making fun of Hakeem Jeffries
and putting a sobrero on him will stop. I can't
stand for that. I say, more sombrero memes.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
More.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
The siberro memes are top notch, especially when it comes
from the President of the United States social media accounts.

Speaker 13 (47:05):
So let me send this for the crowd. Listen, let
me tell you this entire great tale. So as you know,
Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer have been begging on their
knees for the last week. Please, mister President, I'm sorry
we called you a bashist. Please meet with us and
give us money for the illegals. So then Trump said no,
they waddled, they actually waddled like chubby stubby children out

(47:27):
to a podium and told the country that they were
still going to fight to give illegals lots of money.
And then Trump took that video. He used ai like
you on the Hammer and Nigel showd to artfully make
fun of people vocally, and then he puts some mariachi
music on and put a sombrero a mustache on Hikeem.
Because the Democrats plan is all about illegal immigrants.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Why did Donald Trump even take that meeting? He knew
it was bait. He knew they were going to go out,
back out and say Donald Trump doesn't want healthcare.

Speaker 13 (48:00):
Every single time Hakeem, Jeffries, and Chuck Schumer open their mouths,
it is bad for the Democrat party. There has not
been a single press conference the Democrats have held that
have boosted their party, not one in the entire second
Trump administration. That is a political anomaly that we have
never seen before. And so for Trump to then put

(48:20):
this meme out, which I think again the masterful laser
pointer and the cat chasing the laser pointer around the
Trump administration. Now the Democrats, that's all they're talking about,
that racist and sombrero memes. Some Democrat representative from California
currently going through menopause, she was really upset about it,
saying that this is the ray most racist thing the

(48:42):
president has ever done.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Oh, you don't have to go to California, Tony.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
The wine moms in Westfield, I'm sure are very upset.

Speaker 13 (48:50):
Oh well, of course, of course, and they're so angry
that they've been making more sombrero memes. It's great, the
best thing I've ever witnessed, and it's going to continue
because the government shutdown. Yeah, voters really don't care. It's
like that weird lady on Facebook who's always talking about
the latest breakup she's been through for attention, guys. You know,
it kind of turns out that voters after they've heard

(49:11):
that four or five, six, seven times, I mean, it
doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
So zoom out on that for just a second. When
somebody hears government shutdown, what does that mean to the
average person exactly? And what do people need to know?

Speaker 13 (49:25):
So, first of all, over seventy percent of the government
is still coming to work on the daily, So I'm
afraid that the Environmental Protection Agency is not sending people
out to sniff your local pond. I know, huge loss.
I'm still crying about it. But the post Office they're
still out, you know, denting my packages. You know, you've
still got the irs. Who's making sure that rich people

(49:49):
are evading taxes? And most importantly, the government is still
carrying out things like cashing the Social Security check. They're
you know, they're members of the military. Certain facets will
be paid. Not a whole lot happens. There was a
Parks and Rec episode on this in twenty ten, like
people don't care.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
So is this really just coming down to the Democrats
want money allocated for illegal immigrants healthcare? Is that really
what this whole shutdown is about.

Speaker 13 (50:21):
Yes, But there's a little slide of hand. There's a
little turnive phrase, a little trick of the risk here,
because as we were talking about some of our very fine,
angry old white liberal women here in Indiana, you know,
Hamilton County, perhaps they're busy screeching at their phones and
they're saying, well, accually, nothing in the bill says that
it money has to go to illegal immigrant. Well, here's

(50:42):
the thing in the Obama subcity package that Biden pushed
on the Obamacare package during COVID, the federal government would
send big lump sons of fungible money to the states.
Fungible means states can use it really however they want.
And Blue states like Minnesota, Illinois, and California would then
take that and spend that money on illegal immigrant health care.

(51:06):
So yeah, sure, wink wink. The federal government isn't wink
wink spending it on illegal immigrants per se. They're just
giving states the money to do that. Republicans said, no,
I don't think so. If you're going to spend money
on Americans through Medicaid Medicare, it has to be done
to American citizens. Yes, even down at the state level.
That's not Tony Kinnett saying that. That's the Chicago Tribune

(51:26):
a month.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Ago, and big surprise, the Democrats are more worried about
the illegal immigrants getting health care than they are their
own American citizens.

Speaker 13 (51:34):
I mean, I look after the lowest ratings of my
party of all time, because you know, the Democrats, well
not my party speaking in on behalf of the Democrats
in the situation, lowest ratings they've ever had because they
were defending wife beating MS thirteen guys like Ken Olamar
Abrego Garcia. Now they're going to sacrifice the rest of

(51:55):
their ratings because they want to give guys like that
health care. Yeah, I wouldn't have done that.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
And it seems like last thing on this before we
move on to some other stuff here they keep trotting
Chuck Schumer out there to be the voice of the party.
You can just tell the Democrats are done with Chuck.
Nobody likes Chuck, but Chuck wants to be liked. This
is a problem. So how is this ultimately going to

(52:21):
play out, not only for the Dems, but for Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Oh, I know, Tony's predicted it. You've predicted it.

Speaker 13 (52:27):
I did say that AOC is going to be a
rise in the Democrat Party as the results of this.
It doesn't help that Chuck Schumer looks like e Or
from Winnie the Pooh got kicked in the nuts. He
walks out there, he said, he's glum. He looks like
his wife just invited him to a dinner with her boyfriend.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
It's a rough time.

Speaker 13 (52:47):
And again there's no plan. The reason that Hakim has
done on the House side has done six interviews exclusive
interviews over and I'm sorry after six it's not exclusive anymore.
But he interviews over the sombrero meme, and Chuck is
wandering and mumbling in front of the camera like Joe
Biden talking about ice cream. Got would imagine there's some Democrats,

(53:09):
some of whom I've talked to here in the Midwest,
who are desperate for anything different. And again, you even
have Fetterman, you have courts has Masso and Nevada. You
have Angus King who's totally not a Democrat from Maine.
They all broke away from Chuckle Schumer and voted with
the Republicans. Guys, I'm sorry. When you have Democrats defecting

(53:30):
to the majority of Republicans, that's not a Republican shut down, there,
Sailor Tony.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Tony Kinneck cast weeknights here on ninety three WIBC. So
the Secretary of War Pete Hegzeth comes out yesterday and
says no more fatties and no more women in the military.
Did I get that right?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Are we paraphrasing that right, Tony?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Do I get that?

Speaker 13 (53:49):
Or yes? And I gotta tell you, guys, know, I'm
not really much of a beer kind of a guy,
but I wanted to get the coldest beer, the largest
American flag, and all of the fireworks I could afford
and enjoy that Pete Heggs set before all of the brass.
If you know anyone in the military, you'll know that
generals have the reputation of dog fee sees soaking in rainwater,

(54:12):
because in the last twenty years, a lot of the
general staff have been a bunch of chair parade fat
boys who have been running around serving themselves in branches
and micro branches and mos micro specialties in the military
that don't even matter, so that they can get themselves
tons of you guys know the phrase too many Chiefs,

(54:32):
not enough Indians. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a lot of
how the military has become.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Of course, I was joking, and Pete Heggset did not
say women are no longer allowed in the military. What
was the crux of his meeting with all the top
brass yesterday.

Speaker 13 (54:47):
So basically, get together. It's a new focus for the
United States military. I don't like seeing other countries not
take us seriously. Because you had Rachel Levine, some dude
in a skirt who was an admiral brought up in
front of the country that levine that was their colleague
in the brass out there, and so heg Seth gets
up and says, we're not doing that anymore. We're gonna
have physical standards. No more claiming you're a Viking and

(55:09):
going hang ding a durg and so you can wear
beard information no saying well, actually i'm fat sexual so
that we have to honor your your calorie intake. And
also I'm sorry, but if you're a lady who wants
to be on a combat team, then you have to
meet the combat standard. Just because Mazie Herono has a
pathological fear of pull ups doesn't make that a standard

(55:33):
for the United States military, right.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
And Hexath said that about men too, like if you're
a weak man, you are not to be on the
field of battle. That kind of gets lost out of
the conversation. It's all about performance. And Nige and I
were talking about this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
If I'm wounded on.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
A battlefield somewhere, I don't care if it's the biggest
strongest NFL linebacker you can find or the women Men's
WWE champion that has to pick me up. As long
as they can do the job, that's fine. And if
you can't do the job, then you don't need to
be there.

Speaker 13 (56:09):
And it doesn't just have to do with kind of
physical standards regarding weight. You see this in other parts
of the military as well. For example, many infantrymen are
very fond of seeing the wizard come up next to you.
He's got the big antenna sticking out of his backpack.
He has the ability to speak into a box and
make the horizon disappear in a.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Ball of fire.

Speaker 13 (56:26):
He's the guy who calls an air strikes. He's the
jtach guy. You do not want him to have a lisp.
If that man has a lisp, you may find yourselves
disappearing in an a tense, beautiful stitching of bullets.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
You want to be able to understand him, is what
you're saying.

Speaker 13 (56:42):
Correct, I want him to speak clearly. It has nothing
to do with his identity. It's can you perform the
job to meet standards so the job is done well.
A fireman carry needs to be carried out by a
person who can meet those physical standards. Whether it's a
strapping galler guy, I don't care standard.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Can you stick around for one more segment. Yeah, all right,
we'll be right back with Tony Kinnittt ninety three WBC
Back with Tony Knnittt from the Tony Kinney Cast, investigative
reporter for Daily Signal. What you sent me this story?
I still find this crazy. This illegal alien des Moines,
Iowa school superintendent that was like on the run from

(57:21):
Ice and illegal alien makes it all the way to
a pretty prestigious gig as a school superintendent. What's the
background here?

Speaker 13 (57:29):
See? You guys know, I used to be an administrator
in Indianapolis public schools, and I would tell you and
anyone else who would listen, administrators are the most overrated
bunch of handout participation trophy winners who want to lord
it over you than anybody. Case in point Ian Roberts,
this guy who came to the United States from Guyana
in South America and then made the excellent decision in

(57:52):
nineteen ninety nine to not get his student visa renewed.
He let it expire, and then he stayed and committed
several felonies. And I'm not just talking immigration felonies. He
also you know, violated several gun laws and so ice.
Then you know, basically went and said, hey, you're rather illegal,
and oh you're the superintendent of Des Moines Public Schools.

(58:12):
Now we find out he was also receiving mail in
ballots as an illegal immigrant. Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on,
hold on, hold on, backup.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
I was told by everybody on Facebook and Twitter and
Instagram and ten cans with a string and all the
PTA meetings of Hamilton County that that wasn't happening.

Speaker 13 (58:33):
I know, I know. As crazy as it is to
believe that the blonde who has a blood alcohol level
that is half Chardonnay is wrong about the security of
the mail in voting system, it turns out amazingly so
that you can screw up mail in voting ballots Again.
No one is more focused on good, strong, clean elections

(58:56):
than Baltimore May And.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I know tonight Jerry Lopez is filling in for you
for the Tony Kennett cast on ninety three WIBC. He's
got Denesh Desuza right out of the gate at seven.
But what are you working on at the Daily Signal?

Speaker 13 (59:13):
Well, we're gonna be on the live stream on YouTube
tonight because news never rests. But next week I'm gonna
be live in Washington, d C. With Tim Burchett. He's
the Rep from Tennessee who says AOC will steal your
soul if you'll catter too long. And then, of course
everybody knows the great Scott Jennings, Bringer of Tears at CNN.
We're gonna be live doing some shows in DC, some

(59:34):
special stuff we got planned.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
The Toonas. That's how you find him on Twitter. X
the Tonas, Tony Kennett, my man Fire as always.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
We'll talk next week.

Speaker 13 (59:45):
You guys are the best.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.