Episode #2077- Hammer and Nigel Full Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
You know, Hammer, I noticed you were gone for a
couple of hours earlier this afternoon. You were at that
redistricting rally. Weren't you. You were on stage with Andrew Ireland,
Representative Ireland. You were leading the charge with turning point.
That's where you were, right. I went to get a McRib.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Okay, all right, Well I was trying to nake it
over there.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hearing the attendance was around one hundred ish people.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Okay, I don't know if that's a success or not.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Keep in mind the property tax rally had thousands, Yes,
this had around one hundred. You were at that rally,
the property tax Yes, you were at the property tax rally.
But listen, we've talked about this before. Man, the Republican voter,
the conservative voter is not go protest guy. That's not

(01:02):
who we are. For the most part. We are the
I've got to go to work, you know, I'm not
going to take a day off to go down to
the state House. People we usually just vote and then
bitch and moan on the Hammer in Nigel show.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's the way we operate.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
The property tax thing was such a unicorn because that
happened to be on Saint Patrick's Day, where there was
already a built in crowd downtown. It was about our
personal money getting screwed over, and it had the backing
of WIBC, and that had thousands of people show up.
Turning Point Action had about one hundred people there today.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Okay, yeah, no, I saw some live footage. I saw
that whoever that was that was that was speaking was
talking about, Look, if you don't get this done, we're
going to spend a lot of money here to primary some.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
People, which is great because that's what we said during
the property tax rally. Listen, some of these guys that
have an R next to their name, Uh, they're not
your friend. It's what we would call a turd. Some
would say rhino. I call them a tird. They always
have their best interests and not yours.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I don't know why I thought you were going to
come up with something more sophisticated and technical when you
said this is something we like to call them a tird.
It's the sport code, isn't it that it is? I
got a sport code on today. Look, I don't care
what Rob Kendall says, I know there's a different opinion.
You and I are an agreement. Agreement. There's nothing unethical

(02:34):
about this. Democrats do the same thing if you want to,
you want to risk sacrificing, sacrificing seats on a macro level,
if you want impeachments and investigations, or do you want
Trump's agenda. That's what it comes down to when we're
talking about redistricting or redrawing the maps, as you say,
because you can't say redistricting.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
And it passed today through the House. Now we knew
this would happen. This isn't some sort of big surprise,
but it did pass through the House today, House Bill
ten thirty two, fifty seven to four forty one against.
So if the bill includes amendments on the Senate side,
and the Senate gets together next week, it would then

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go back to the House for further discussion, and then
you're gonna get conference committees. And this is where things
get squirrely when things start getting into committee normally, that's
when you get screwed. Look at property tax. Look who
Rod Bray put on some of the property tax committees.
You had Senator Scott Baldwin involved. Now, this was one

(03:39):
of the guys that had financial skin in the game
for businesses receiving property tax money. He didn't give it.
Damn if you got yours or not. So this is
the kind of crap that you have to keep an
eye on over the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I also thought it was pretty interesting me and the
governor in here in studio yesterday and he said, look,
if somehow this doesn't happen, we don't get the votes,
it's not over yet. I mean jd Vance and Donald Trump.
Jd Vance didn't come here twice, and Donald, you know
our representatives didn't go to the Oval office for nothing.
There's other options that made it is what he was intimating.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Correct, And if the price is right, we've seen in
the past your Senate Pro Tim can be bought because
he was Johnny tough guy. When it came to constitutional carry.
We can't have that. Why would we want law abiding
citizens to have a constitutional right. Well, then the NRA
and some of their good time party boys broke off

(04:36):
a phone call with the Senate Pro Tim Rod Bray
and then all of a sudden, oh he saw the light.
You know what constitutional rights are a good thing. Now,
keep those checks on coming. So this whole thing's dirty,
like it doesn't necessarily have to be a Republican versus
a Democrat thing.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Here.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
All of these people are trying to screw They really
are all of these people. The only question is who
do you want to be screwing you? That's what the
whole changing of the map comes down to.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Here. I have about some good news here now. Chet Female, preferably.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
One of the like cheaper airlines in terms of ticket prices,
has announced a bunch of new direct flights no stop
services to warm weather destinations in twenty twenty six. Because
even though downtown, you know, we had some sunshine a
little bit earlier, wasn't bad, It's still colder than Blue Hell.

(05:42):
So Frontier Airlines has announced they've got direct flights beginning
in March of twenty twenty six. Two Fort Myers, Oh yeah, Phoenix,
Fort Lauderdale, and Las Vegas huge.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Fort Myers and Phoenix both are huge. Loatderdale. I just
got back from Fort Lauderdale like a month ago. Love
it down there, man, love the Lauderdale.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I'm a little disappointed that the Hotel Coral Essex from
Revenge of the Nerds, too, is no longer standing.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I love you.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I love that you actually set out on a trek
to find the Hotel Coral Essex.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I texted you while I was down there. I found
the filming locations of Nerds in Paradise, and unfortunately the
Hotel Coral Essex building no longer standing in the greater
Fort Lauderdale area. If you need a reason to drink tonight,
Happy sixtieth birthday to Johnny Resnick of the Google Do

(06:45):
No Way. He's sixty now, Nige now does he still
like Jennifer?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Does he? I thought I always thought he looked.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Like Jennifer Aniston. He did kind of have a Rachel cut,
didn't he had a Rachel cut? He had a Rachel cut.
I always thought Goo Goo Dolls put out what I
would call chick rock, like nineties two thousand chick rock.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
They We played the hell out of them, though, Allison,
you're a chick. Did you ever get into Googoo Dolls
at all?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I do love iris.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Okay, so I've got a five song Goo Goo Dolls
montage here. I've set the over under on Alison at
three and a half. Here notche man.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I went, I went with her, I went with the
over the last time. I'm gonna say she's gonna run
the table this time, run the table. So we're going
over really okay, Okay, although I just now I just
remember there's like older stuff, like like more rock stuff
that they did that like than their newer stuff, which
is more chick rock a tricks in here.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
These are all big hits, okay, okay, songs that you
and I have each played on the radio in our careers.
All right, Alison, when you have heard the song on
our system, as always, let us know if you know
what it is.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Here we go, Yeah, yeah, there's your song. Same every
girl loves this song, every girl, every person?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Two for two and black Balloon I believe, Yes, three
for three?

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Just one more, Yeah, Bourn, there's your.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Over and let's just plays wants you Okay, what the table?
Here we go, run the table?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Their original one of their original hits, yeah no zoom Now.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Allegedly that song name was about Kenny Yeah he's a
Fox News now.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
She had a little tryst allegedly with Johnny Resnick. But
she didn't want uh, nobody wanted them to know they
were together, and yeah, good for her, good for him.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
You were listening to the Hammer and Nigel, she my
name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with a
full studio.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Look at the.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Greatness that we've got in this studio right now.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like we've got medics, we've got promotional people, and we've
got the best in the world at what they do.
The Big ten Championship eating contest that is taking place
this weekend, the Hoosiers and Buckeyes. Man, we're fired up
for this one Ailed Emporium's world famous Hermanaky Wings that
is on the docket for this weekend. And joining us

(09:32):
in studio right now, some of the best in the
world at what they do. The number one rated Ladies Champion.
We've got Mickey Pudo.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Mickey you again. Nick Weary is.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
With us, part of the power couple here and no
stranger to this program, Joey Chestnuts the Goat, as you've
been known as. Welcome back to Indie everybody. How the
heck are you guys doing.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Very very well? You don't need to you know, Joey's
a Hoosier now he's an he's one of us. Oh yeah,
he's putting a fifth winter here and I love it.
Fifth winter here. Coming from San Diego. It was fifteen
degrees this morning, and Joey's like, yeah, I love it.
That's yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
You don't give yourself a choice.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, love it. Truly be one of us.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Now, you got to start putting an asset the end
of things that don't necessarily need one. A hoodie is
fine for any weather, doesn't matter if it's one hundred
and five or negative ten outside. You throw on a hoodie,
you're good to go. So this year we are mixing
it up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Uh. The Aleporium and our power from Almporium is here
as well.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
They brought some of their awesome Hermanaky wings, Herman from
Hermanaki here. Herman the guy that did hermanachy wings. Is
your last name? Anaki? Please come me.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's the case, Herman Aki. That's not.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
That's awesome, that's oh my gosh. Nage and I have
been doing eating contests on these long before it was cool,
I think before the competitive eaters started doing this.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
So Nick, let's start with you.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I was checking my Hammer and Nigel Instagram feed a
couple of days ago and I noticed on our Golden
Girl's parody video.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think you left the comment you had one of
the first comments on our Golden Girls commercial.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
Oh yeah, that's one of the best commercials, maybe the
best commercial I've ever seen. I feel like the Golden
Girls involved in anything sets the bar pretty high.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So I appreciate it. It really does.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Mickey, how are you like you are the goat at
what you do here? Like, how do you guys look
as good as you do?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Because Nick looks like a million damn dollars, you look amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Like I'm afraid if I have like four wings that
are on this table, I'm gonna have a beer billy
that looks like Chris CHRISTI. How do you guys look
the way you do?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
The secret is the chicken wings? I don't know, but
I'm just I'm super excited.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
To be here.

Speaker 10 (11:52):
I want to finish off the year strong and be
great to beat Joey, you know, on his own turf.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh that's right, really fire here?

Speaker 7 (11:59):
Okay it down? Yeah, yeah, I'd be shocked. It'd be
great for a lot of things to have, but no,
I'm pretty hungry. This is uh, I'm excited. It's gonna
be great. Tomorrow will be a good day.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
So joey.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
When you find out you're going to be doing one
of these contests, like, what's the recon involved? Do you
have to go to the restaurant find out what it
is you're eating? Do you eat it ahead of time?
Because this is something new. Last couple of years, it's
been the shrimp cocktail for this contest and now it's
the ale Emporium Hermanachy wings.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
We're over a decade it was shrimp cocktail and it
took a long time to get build a tolerance, get
my body used to the shrimp cocktail.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
But wings.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
I've been eating wings for a while and every wing,
every wing restaurant's a little bit different. But the aporium
is the best in this area.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
So what constitutes like in terms of a finished wing?

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Well, all right, so wings are different. So like you,
they're gonna give us a tray of I think twenty
five pounds of wings, all cooked, and we put our
bones back in there and they wait. They weighed again,
so they know exactly. So if people are they have
a bad technique, they're they're not efficient. Uh, they might
go through more wings, but it's somebody with a really
good technique. That they're getting more meat off.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Hey, can I just say just real quick, great, Heavyy
back in the hot Dog Eating Championship again. It's great
to make Mickey, congratulations on your win obviously, I mean,
the best in the business. It was great, Heaveny back
and there was no way I was missing it. Thanks. Yeah,
it was great. Back in the seventies. Was good. Oh,
it felt good.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
It felt good and you didn't have to beat anybody
up this year, which is great.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
Nobody storm the stage, right, It was uh, yeah, it
was a good year. You know what next year, next
fourth of July will be I'll be I think I
have a plan for a record.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You're like, the eating contest didn't have to use my
a k. It was a good day. Damn damn. Right again,
Joey Chestnut, Mickey Pseudo, Nick Werry Instudio, they're all part
of the Hermanachy Wings Eating Chanampionship for the Big Ten
Championship football game coming up this weekend. Now Here, in
just a moment, we're gonna have a.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Little contest here in studio and part of the IU
Radio Network. John Herrick will be doing the play by
play for this. We're so excited that the Hoosiers are
involved in this. I'm hoping you guys are gonna have
a big packed crowd to watch this event. Nick, walk
me through your process of getting ready for competition like this.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So wings is definitely a technique food.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
So you get a you know, a handful of dozens
of wings, you know, get those. We're fortunate enough to
have the sauce sent out to us, so we can
kind of adjust to the flavor and.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
See what you need to do.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
And for me, it's practice, like you play so set up,
you know, however many wings, you know, a few hundred
wings in the backyard, put ten minutes on the clock,
have my liquids ready, throw the headphones in, and basically
just go to town for ten minutes.

Speaker 11 (14:48):
You know.

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Maybe it's fund the first minute kind of adjusting and
getting my technique back and then just put on the
gas and acting.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It's a regular contest.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
So like when you guys go to like a holiday
party or something, people just expect you to like put
on a show all the time, like, oh, there's a
sharkchotary trade.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You guys do your stuff, you know, like a lot.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
We get a lot of questions and stuff about like, oh,
do we need to make extra food and what have you?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
But for the most part, we.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
We treat everything normally.

Speaker 9 (15:17):
It's kind of like an account doesn't go and do
somebody's taxes.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Weiday party, so it's.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
A great pretty much. Normally we leave work at work,
like I love.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
They don't get asked do we need to make extra food?
But you and I get asked that when we show up. Right, Oh,
you're coming, I should probably.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Make more food. Oh more chili please?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
All right, So John, we're gonna get John Herrick over
here from the Who's Your Radio Network? John, go ahead
and take this microphone here, nudge you kind of set
everything up here.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Uh okay, so we are all doing I'm not doing this.
I have set out this eating challenge because I am
tired of embarrassing myself in front of Joey. I've I've
we've done the shrimp eating contest multiple times. You don't
thing to finish this plate of food. I can't emsing

(16:03):
it's embarrassing for me out of his mouth. I just
I can't do that in front of you anymore. I
can't make a fool out of myself for so sorry,
So we have uh, Nick and Joey Mickey with a
plate of hermanocy wings and Hammer will be joining in
on the competition, and here to announce, here to get
us kicked off, Here to get us started is one

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mister John Herrick, director a w IBC News.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Okay, everybody on your mark, get set eat. Everybody's chowing down.
Hammer's trying to clean his plate pretty quick. We got
Nicky Pseudo, she's flipping the wings over. She's chewing him
pretty well. Weary, Oh my gosh, this technique he was
talking about earlier. He's cleaning it up really quick. He's
already down three. Joey chest done over there, making great progress.
We've got Hammer still working on number one a little bit.

(16:49):
I know he's got too. He's got a couple down,
and Nicki Pseudo is still working on where he's finished here.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Nick we barely.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I was watching Nick. I was watching Nick and Joey
very close. It was very close. Nick had it, Yeah,
he had it.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
He talked about that technique and he backed it up perfectly.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Wow Hammer, how you doing over there? But he got
three solid? Mister Weary the winner, very good, very good,
very nice. Harry feeling over there? How you doing? How
you doing. Let's hear you know what I felt. I
competed good, right, I felt like I was in the
mix there for a little while. Because this is the
equivalent of like a fat kid in junior high playing

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one on one with Lebron James and all these people here.
So I think I did okay. Wings are kind of
an equalizer.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
It's uh, it's like playing football and like really really
bad weather. Yeah, it's uh, it really kind of. It's
going to be a close game.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Joey, can you hold that belt up to the YouTube
camera and win that best? Not my belt?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
He will, he won't touch.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Glades. Hold that bad boy, that YouTube camera right above
Joey's head right there. That's what we're playing for.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
I don't hold it.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
So that's what the belt you're playing for. Yeah, that's the belt.
So what time does all this take place? Tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (18:10):
It's gonna be a fan fast at three point thirty.
If you have a ticket to the game. You have
a ticket to fan fest already, and uh, I think
the tickets are you can buy tickets there. I don't
think they're too much.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah that's awesome. Can we get the inventor of the
Hermanoky wings Place Royalty. Royalty is a full name. Please
Herman Dale Perryman. And how did you come up with
the Hermanoky wings? They're addicting. I love the boneless, I
love the bone in, I love everything. Tell me about
the h the Ale Emporium, Hermanoky wings Man.

Speaker 8 (18:39):
I can find a favorite hot sauce that I like.
So I created my own and like a gallon of
ring of sauce and just added a bunch of peppers
and stuff like that, like a form of base to it.
And from that base, my first ring was Hermit. And
now what I would do is I would like drop
them and cook them, throw them on the grill, go
out to the dining room and like, hey, you want

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to try winning these wings. When I try winning these wings,
I will just samp them every day. You know, I
wings every.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Day for a whole year, just to meet sure I
got these wings right.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
That was pretty much the story, you know, the people saying, hey,
could you make me a flavor?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know I did that.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Also, most famous wings in Indianapolis, for sure, no question
in the region. It's screw regional.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
Want of wings man best wings, Inn't worry?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, hell yeah man, really nice to meet you. Man.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I feel like I don't know if you get paid
for every order of wings, but I felt I feel
like I put multiple kids through college for you. So
you're welcome. Okay, you're welcome, all right, man, Hey, thank
you guys so much for coming in. I can't wait
for tomorrow. It's such an exciting feeling in Indie right now.
I know it's colder than hell, but the Hoosiers have

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a big basketball game tomorrow and then of course the
Big Ten Championship football game. We got the best competitive eaters.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
In the world here. Enjoy your time in Indie and
thank you so much. Thank you so much for having
the Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Evince Vince.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I'm fired up, baby man, old man, my name is Nigel.
That's Jason Hammer with a very special guest on the hotline.
I think he's a legend, radio legend. Dan bass Levy
joins us, what's up. I will take all of those.
Thank you so much. I mean a legend just for
coming up with the term arguments alone, like this is

(20:36):
your baby, right, this is the one I have licensed.
It is mine, allmine. It's called arguments. I have a
podcast where we debate stuff like this, you can be
your your mount Rushmore, would you rathers? And all kinds
of stuff like that, all those things you would do
with your buddies at a bar, barbecue anywhere else where.
We have silly arguments with no real answer or winner.

(20:58):
That's the fun we're having. And if you guys want
a rock and roll, I got a pretty good maargument
for you. Okay, do it? A Christmas character that you
would want to take.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
On in a real fight.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
So somebody in a Christmas movie or anything, a Christmas
character that you would want to actually have a fight with?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yes, who is the one? Shall I get the party started?
You want to go ahead? You guys?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
All right?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I will go first and foremost, but mine wins. I
would take on Ebenezer Scrooge and a win all take
all throwdown. My god, bas is like a hundred and
something years old? Is he reasons why I wanted I
didn't say I wanted a real good fart. I was
gonna pulverize base before you get started. I'm just gonna

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tell you. I mean, I don't want to spoil it
for anybody, but Scrooge comes around right. Well, it took
a little while to get him to do that one.
I think I can get him a coverorado one good punch.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Okay, So he's bringing everybody down. You know, he doesn't
like Chrismas, kind of just wants to be left alone.
I see a lot of myself in Scrooge. I gotta
be honest with you, Dan, like, yeah, what if.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
You knew of a family that was hurt and little
Timmy was walking around about the now, you wouldn't go
He gets nothing.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Listen, Little Timmy was wearing people out for a long time,
like they were.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Milking that sympathy teaching as long as they could milk it.
Damn Timothy, tim He even gets the Jewish hard and
that starry guys.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's like when you turn on the news and that's
sad Sarah McLaughlin commercial comes on and some dogs about
to get the needle. You're just like, all right, that's enough.
Oh God, here comes the kid and crutches again. Come on,
all right, So you're on the board with Scrooge. Here, Allison,
we'll go to you.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
First off, I don't fight people. This is this oh
bull crap. You give a Nigel and eye.

Speaker 11 (22:57):
All the time, So I say this is a more
a verbal lashing, I would say. And this this is
also on my list of probably the worst Santas of
all time, the Santa from Rudolph the Red Nose reindew.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
You want to fight Santa from.

Speaker 11 (23:11):
Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer, specifically that Santa, basically that one,
because he is grumpy from start to finish. He says
how Rudolph, how embarrassing he is, and then at the
very end he's like, oh, maybe I can use him
for my own good. Meanwhile, he won't eat any food.
Missus Claus is trying to cheer him up for the kids.
He's rude at her. He's not eating her food. He's

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just never a light and the only time he's happy
is when he gets his way.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm starting to see her point a little bit here.
Right day and the other day he's in charge of
how many knuckbag elves walking around Ma get toys, and
then he's got to make sure it's all ready to
go for one not a year. I can see the
arnery from him.

Speaker 11 (23:50):
Yeah, well, he's clearly doesn't do anything. Missus Claus is
the one walking around doing everything for him.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Like you're fine with a group of little employees that
wear green and all.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
This kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
One of them, I even think, wants to become like
a dentist or something stupid. But yet here comes a
rein gear that's got a red nose. And that's where
you draw the line at it. And I don't like
the way that Sanna gives like Rudolph's dad a bunch
of crap?

Speaker 12 (24:14):
Do we have this great bouncing iceberg. I'm sure it'll
stop as soon as he grows up. Sannah, Well, let's hope.
So if he wants to make the sleigh team someday.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
I mean Jesus, he's a baby's.

Speaker 11 (24:30):
Go eat some cookies and down.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Dub at the udub. It's a turnaround story, Like you
guys said to me, he comes out on top to
get his way. Classic Allison rant right there. I love.
Who needs a budge when you can just take that
one right to the heart.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Geez, Christmas movie character you'd fight if you could nudge
Art Ellen Griswold's dad in a Christmas vacation, that ungrat,
full drunk bastard.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
And you know what, I'll throw Francis in his his
witch wife too. When they're out there on the lawn
and poor Clark Griswold is trying to fire at the
Christmas lights. Then little lights are twinkling, Clerk.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Thanks for being here, a little lights, They're not twinkling.
I know, Art, thanks for noticing.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
And then his wife goes and then what hope, kids?
You know what a silly ways to resources this is,
although he did have one of the best underrated lines
where he goes, what is it Clark gets your confirmation
to the nuthouse? Hurry Ip, I'm freezing my back. Heads off,
I'm fighting Art, and if Francis wants to get in

(25:47):
there too, I'll kick her in the shins. Hands up, hands,
I'm with you on that one. So Allison gets off
in a profanity filled rant about Santa and I got
Nige kicking women over here. This is how you know
you've got a good topic in b argument. I'm gonna
say this argument is taking it right to the senior audience.
I'm loving this all right. Mine is from the movie

(26:11):
Home Alone.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
But it's not who you would probably Joe Nope, not
Joe Peshi, not Daniel Stern, not even the uncle that calls,
you know, Kevin a little jerk. I'm talking about the
little Nero's pizza guy, what pizza kid, the teenage boy,
because throughout the whole movie he drives like a lunatic

(26:33):
through a neighborhood. He's speeding, he's crashing into things. There
were kids that live in this neighborhood.

Speaker 13 (26:39):
I know.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Last time I went to Chicago for a concert, Jacob
and I went to the home Alone house. It's in
a residential neighborhood where children live. And the pizza guys,
driving like a damn.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Lunatic, knocks that statue over every time he pulls in
the driveway right.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
And then later in the movie, when Kevin is buying
his cheese pizzas, he doesn't give that big of a tip. Well,
you know what, little zero pizza guy, maybe you don't
deserve one. How many times have you crashed into things
at my house? He winds about the tip. He drives
like a lunatic. And then when Kevin plays the movie,
the pizza guy thinks he's hearing a real life murder.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Does he call the police? No, he just drives why
like a lunatic, just leaves bodies and corpses in the
house to die. This guy's the worst the absolute worst.
I gotta tell you, I'd sounds a pretty good argument.
I got nothing for you. I'm bad.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Jump in the YouTube chat or send us a tweet,
Facebook or Instagram message. Let us know Christmas character you
could fight if you could. And Dan, where can we
find more Bargaments?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Find it anywhere that you download your podcasts, and you
can also watch it on YouTube if you want to
see what I look like. And also there's a Facebook
group that is all Bargaments, all day, all night, twenty
four to seven. You are more than welcome to jump
in love all the Hammer and Nigel people that are
coming into it and joining in and causing arguments.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's a good place to kill time while you're working.
So Bargaments have at it and I always like to
rumble with you guys. Thank you so much, my man.
We appreciate you. We will talk to you soon. Guys.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
So, Nige, I'm gonna let you do a little choose
your own adventure here. Okay, do you want to talk
about how Sony's PlayStation is turning thirty years old?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Oh used to be addicted to Tony Hawk's skate Or
do you.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Want to talk about how the National Rodeo has been
affected by horse herpees.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Oh, let's go horse herpees daylight Nevada.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, horse herpes outbreak, Oh, forcing changes at the National Rodeo.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Good.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Now, if you've ever tried to go to Vegas around
December around this time, it's ridiculously packed. Not because tourists
are going or the weather's good, it's the rodeo. This
is like a big deal for bull riders, horse riders,
all that kind of stuff. So there's a little outbreak

(29:02):
going on right now. And one horse trainer says he's
out at least one hundred thousand dollars as a result
of this.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
The virus has.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Been spreading from horse ranches to horse ranches, most recently
in Texas and in Arizona. And if you watched any
of those episodes of Yellowstone, like when the cattle got
some sort of bug, it was bad, a lot of
cattle died, So I'd imagine it's kind of the same
thing with the horses here.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
So like, so, do they have like giant horse valtrex
pills that they was waiting to hear where that was
gonna go. Yes, they do have giants something like do
they have I mean, is it just like, can they
get some CarMax for the lips? Do they have cold sores?
Is that what they're breaking out into? How does it work?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
I don't know if I've ever seen a horse with
a cold sore. Somebody who works with horses, please let
us know. What does horse herpes look like? Is it
a big cold sore? And how does it happen? Which
girl from Southport infected the horses here?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Geez?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh, stop it.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's a joke. It's a joke, I think. With horse herpes, though,
it's a lot more involved than just a little bump
on the lip. Yeah, you know what I mean, right,
I think it's like fevers and infections and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
But some of these horses, man, their whole job is
to stud so to speak, and it's hard to do
that job properly when you know you're infected.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
So that kind of.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Ruins half your life. If you're a horse, like you're
gifted with this amazing girth and then you can't even
use it.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Stinks? Should I type in horse herpes in the search engine?

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Do that?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Because what are we gonna do? It affect the computer?
Nothing else works in here?

Speaker 13 (30:55):
Go for it?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Nigel. It's the Hammer and Nigel show.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh god, oh Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Do you believe these characters are weirdos? So Hammer, I
guess Jay Tapper used to be some sort of respected
anchorman slash journalist. That's thenn that he's just he's he's
just as bad, if not worse, than everybody else, right,
but his smug level comes off as he's better than you.

(31:24):
Oh dear, he's better than you, even though he's more
full of crap than most people. So why are we
talking about Jake Tapper? January sixth, pipe bomber. First of all,
they've just arrested him. Joe Biden's administration had been sitting
on this information and this evidence forever. They had all

(31:46):
the stuff to arrest this guy, they just never acted.
Attorney General Pambondi even said like all this evidence was
collecting dust under the Biden administration, and so was Joe Biden.
He's laying down there on the floor somewhere, is collecting
dust like they had all, you know, all his purchases,

(32:08):
all this guy's cell phone records. You know, I would
like to see you go into a true value by
in caps and batteries and connectors and pipes, and they
had all that on record, and they had all they
had his video and he's masking the guy at the
front desk. Where's the pipe bomb section?

Speaker 14 (32:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Oh, Aisle six, thank you. They had all all the stuff.
But Jake Tapper identified the J six pipe bomber suspect
as a thirty year old white man. Please roll the tape.

Speaker 15 (32:40):
Ryan Cole Junior, a thirty year old white man from
the DC Suburbs. His charts with transporting an explosive device
in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of explosion.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Narrator, The pipe bomber is black, not even close to
being white. He's not mixed. No, he's not light skin.
Question is a white guy? Like if you put a
side by side of a pipe bomber and former NBA
player Region Rondo, they look identical. Man like, this dude's

(33:15):
got the big forehead, the big neck. He looks like
Region Rondo. That's who I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
When I first saw the picture on the screen, I thought, Oh,
is he making a comeback?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Play the Jake Tapper thing again? Very beginning.

Speaker 15 (33:27):
Ryan Cole Junior, a thirty year old white man from
the DC Suburbs as charge.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
As he's saying this, there's a picture of the black
guy on the screen as he's talking about the story.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
So, who's writing for you? Who's I don't believe necessarily
that narrative matters here, But but then there is a
rush to judge and sometimes these people and this isn't
the first time this has happened at CNN. No, remember
when that New York City shooter was going around, I

(34:11):
think it was Aaron Burnett called this guy and again
they put his picture on the screen nowhere near a
white guy, possibly white.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Male, possibly white mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to
they believe to various locations, including upper floors.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Okay, so Nige, as a professional broadcaster, as somebody who
has to talk about sometimes breaking news, you do things
on the fly.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Is this an innocent.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Mistake or is there something more to this because it
happens a lot at CNN.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, there's precedent. I mean, like, just you know what
enters my mind here. A couple of years ago, the
Israelis CNN reported the Israelis destroyed a Godsen hospital, killed
five hundred people. They didn't even wait for the sun
to come up, that hospital was still standing, nobody had

(35:04):
been killed. Okay, truth doesn't matter, it's narrative. I don't
believe Jake Tapper. If he would have known this guy
was a black guy instead of a why guy, he
would have said white.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
But he's just Ron Burgundy. He'll read whatever you write,
put it in front of him exactly. And there might
be something deeper going on here. I don't know, because, look,
mistakes happen, you can misspeak, and I get that we've
done that help probably eighteen times an hour. But this
is a pretty big mistake that CNN habitually makes. I've

(35:41):
got some news from the HHS, the Human Services Department.
They're teaming up with an RFK junior. They're trying to
make America healthy again. Maha, I believe is the term.
But they're wanting to use AI to help revamp the
healthcare industry. So let me know where you're at on this,
because I kind of see both sides of the argument here.

(36:04):
On one hand, you've got AHHS going look, dealing with
the healthcare companies sucks. Everything is super expensive. They're going
to railroad you. So we're going to ask artificial intelligence
to kind of be the work around here. Instead of
having to pay all this money to go see a
doctor or something like that, We're going to create this

(36:25):
AI type of program to where you can do it
from the comfort of your own home. Now on the
other side, notige, You've got people like my mom and
dad who can't program a remote control without throwing something
and freaking it out.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You think they want to sit down and have a
chat with it aibot. No, they want to talk to
somebody in person, for sure. I look, I'm not ashamed
to say that I've like some medications I'm taking. I
will go on to Grock and say do these interact? Well,
what do you know about this? Just kind of some
general information so I don't have to go bother my

(37:01):
doctor text him who was not always available. Nothing to this,
Nothing to a level to where I'm endangering my life
or anything like that. But I have gone to AI before,
I've gotten to Grock before and asked about certain things. Well,
luck be it, I've got a prototype. Oh, I pulled

(37:22):
some strings.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I reached out to my friends at the AHHS. Do
you want to hear what the prototype of their AI
chatbot sounds like? It's actually no RFK Junior giving you
health advice.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Take a listen. How about you put down the donuts
and lose some goddn waity fat tike. That's the proto
type of their AI chat bots for health and human services.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
You got me?

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Hear it again?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Please one more time.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
How about you put down the donuts and lose some
goddn waity fat.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Tick Every message will sound like AI RFK. I think
I kind of like it. I think I like oh god.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Kenny Chesney just shared news that Jimmy Buffett, in a
roundabout way, made his way back on stage at the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tribute show. He's been
dead a year, been dead for a while. Here is
a country star, Kenny Chesney breaking down what we're talking about.

Speaker 13 (38:23):
We were backstage, We were sitting back there, a woman
up trying to, you know, figure out our parts and stuff.
So and Matt comes up to me and he goes
look at this and it was a small urn and
he had Jimmy's ashes in his coat pocket. Jimmy's ashes
were in mcinally's coat pocket on stage with us as
he was getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame. His daughter Savannah gave it to him. So

(38:44):
even after he passed, Jimmy found a way to join
the party.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That's awesome, isn't that awesome? Did you do something with
relatives ashes?

Speaker 13 (38:54):
So? Did you?

Speaker 4 (38:55):
We took some relatives ashes, Crystal the coop. I'm lady,
parents have passed away, sprinkled a little bit in the
mountains of Tennessee. Wow, up at a good old rocky
type one of their favorite places to go, one of
our favorite places.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Beautiful. So that's but let me ask you this. We're
family though, Like that's a family thing.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Sure, if a friend said, hey, I want you to
put these dead ashes in your coat pocket, walk around
with it and sprinkle it somewhere, do you feel comfortable
doing that? Like if I get hit by a bus
tomorrow and Crystal Hammer comes up to you and goes, hey,
see this big bag of crap here, this is my husband, Nigel.
Get yourself a handful of sprinkle it. You feel comfortable

(39:36):
doing that?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Zip lock bag of your ashes? Right, it's in a
nestlie tin containerslie quick, and of course I would. Okay,
some people are weirded out by the whole ashes thing. Well,
I mean, you know, there is that famous scene in
The Big Labowski were there where Walter is uh spreading,

(39:59):
Donnie ashes over the Pacific Ocean and then the wind
blows back. All damn it, Walter so good.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
It's in the folders can before we hit Matt Bears track.
I want to give you another reason to drink. I
know we already gave you one earlier, but it's a
busy weekend here in Indie and I don't feel like
we've given this person enough props. Hat tip to Don
Fisher the IU Hoo's your radio network. Fish is like eighty,

(40:31):
but he looks like a million damn dollars. He sounds amazing. Saturday,
he's going to do the pregame show, which is an
hour long for the IU basketball game, and then the
game halftime show along with John Herrick postgame show, and
then he's going to do a big pregame show for
the football game, the full football game halftime along with

(40:55):
John Harrick and the postgame show.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Dude, Fish is a machine. That dude is a badass.
There's a reason why we couldn't get an interview with
him today is because he's busy. He's drinking tea. He's
icing that golden throat.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah, man, and dude, his voice is just one of
the all time greats. Can I get your Iowa owl?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Owl?

Speaker 13 (41:20):
So good?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
And lean Hosias in the owl? That guy, it's a
bad impression of me doing an impression of Mark Patrick
doing an impression of Don Fisher. Just so you know, dude,
Fish is such a badass.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
And if anybody's listening that's friends with Fish, text him
and say Hammer and Nigel, we're just talking about how
awesome you are.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Have a great broadcast. Couple broadcasts tomorrow, my friend presents.
It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Is this anything.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Brought to you by any claim? Little macho man out
of there?

Speaker 6 (42:02):
What that was?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Indiana Unclaimed Attorney General's Office presenting and reuniting Hoosiers with
over one million dollars in unclaimed property every single week, fast,
easy and free to search at Indiana Unclaimed dot gov.
Is this anything?

Speaker 4 (42:19):
A guy in Michigan lost his wallet at Detroit's Big
Tree lighting event last month and didn't realize it was
gone until I got home, But then a complete stranger
showed up at his front door. She drove at least
twenty miles to give it back to him, dropped it
off in the mailbox. Here's Dave and his girlfriend Shelby

(42:40):
talking about getting his wallet returned to him.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
So I was putting all my things away, it got
my coat on. I'm like, that's when the heart sinks.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Gotta be down there somewhere. It was his wallet in
her hand.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
I'm like, it's in her hand, it's at home. That's
why we just want to find out who she is.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yes, so we can repay her because she saved us
a lot of heartbreak and a lot of just time.
We owe her a lot, so it's the least we
could do.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
We've had this discussion on the show before. Yes, this
is something very nice. A woman returns a wallet, drives
twenty miles to put it in the recipient's meal box.
You find a random wallet on the sidewalk, hammer but
the address. It's like going to take you an hour
to get it back to him. And that's the only

(43:28):
way you can get ahold of it. You know, have
a phone number or anything like that. You're driving an
hour too.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
No, No, now, listen, I would consider mailing it back
to the address on the driver's life. Okay, but like
if you're asking me to drive an hour there, I
don't know if I'm going to pull that off.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I just don't think that they said it was twenty
thirty minutes or whatever it was in that clip. But
still I don't know that I do twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
We take the elevator from the fourth floor to the
fifth floor in this building. You think we're going to
drive thirty minutes out of the way for somebody, we
don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I did. The closest thing I did one time was
walking on I was, you know, taking a walk on
the rail trail one summer in Zionzille, and I saw
guys driver's license, like just sitting there right in the
middle of the trail, and I picked it up and
I put it in you know, I put a stamp
on it and put it in the mail. Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
It's about as far as I'm going. Look, that's a
lot of effort for you anybody that's ever worked with
Nigel or been around Nigel. No, that's a hell of
a lot of an effort.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I mean, it took at least five minutes for me
to do that so yes, And at some point you
had like a devil and an angel on each shoulder.
But the angel was like, you need to send it back.
And then the devil was like, as screw it, just
leave it, leave it right there. I sent it back.
Is this anything keeping it with a Christmas theme? Here?

Speaker 4 (44:58):
A grench cost twenty nine thousand dollars worth of damage
to an elaborate Christmas light display in Washington State.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
A grynch. Yeah, somebody that didn't like the Christmas light display. Oh,
a vandal.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
The police are still looking for this piece of crap.
But the community pulled together. They got the awesome light
display fixed.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Thank god.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Here's Amy, the deputy city manager and parks director, talking
about what's going on here.

Speaker 14 (45:29):
Everybody loves it. This is just such a beloved program.
How we weren't sure if we were going to be
able to do Borce lights this year. Can't describe how
demoralizing that was for the staff that spends so much
time to set this up for the community. We have
extra patrols, we have cameras up. We're watching and if
we find the person, and we will. If it happens again,

(45:50):
they're going to be prosecuted.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
They're not going to find them. You have cameras up,
you get it on tape, they're not going to find them.
Maybe only five years like the pipe bomb. I was
gonna say, five years sitting on that evidence, collecting dust.
But they're not going to find him. But that, Yeah,
those guys are a holes. Fanils are a holes, right am?

(46:13):
I Is that such a hot take?

Speaker 13 (46:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean, this is something these people tried, worked very
hard at what they were doing, and somebody comes up
and just kind of just randomly, I don't know, you
know what comes to mind, swatting. Where are they at
with the swatting and all the the the representatives, the senators,

(46:37):
the representatives here in Indiana. How Tony Kennett was the
victim of a swatting thing the other night? And they're
not going to find those guys, are they?

Speaker 4 (46:48):
When you swat an investigative reporter, he pulls some strings
and I think he finds out who it is. So
that's all I'm going to say about that.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Good point. But let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Let's say you and miss Lindsay are putting up a big,
awesome Chris display at the Laskowski House and then you
see a group of young teenage punk grenches, vandals, whatever
you want to call them, trying to destroy that work.
Are you okay with beating up a teenager baseball bat?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Love that answer. That's what I'm talking about. Right there,
it's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. Yeah, I
would be the Nigel from the Hammer and Nigel Show.
That would be the Nigel, the Hammer, the Jason Hammer
right over there with a very special in studio guest.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
The Traffic Beast. Yeah, Matt Bear joins us, the best
traffic reporter in all of Central End.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Man. How are you doing, Matt?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Thanks for the kind words.

Speaker 10 (47:42):
It's great to be here on this huge, huge weekend
coming up for downtown Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
So I used to have for some reason, my wife
and her friends would always have their their friends Christmas
party downtown on this weekend with the Big Ten championship,
and I would shake my head every time for years,
what are UKs doing? Are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
And that's about teams we didn't even care about. I know,
I know iowould be here in Michigan State this year.
Kurt Signetti and those Indiana Hoosiers are involved.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Mat Yeah, we have the local kids in town and
this is gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
It's like the FFA is in town.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
All the little kids are.

Speaker 10 (48:23):
Running around, except instead of teenagers looking up at the buildings,
we're going to drunk people looking up at the buildings.
And those are the ones you have to walk out
for on the crosswalks. Okay, And I know not everybody's
going to be driving downtown this weekend. It's a good
idea not to drive downtown this weekend.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Man, oh man.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
It was already starting with I was Kevin in a
little bit. We had people with their jerseys on and
things and crossing the streets.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
You know, they're just having fun.

Speaker 10 (48:47):
I'm not mad about it, but there was some jaywalking
and I don't want to hit anybody today.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
That's d I'm telling you, man.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
I know everybody thinks it's going to be some IU
home game. Buckeye fans travel well, like they're no newbies
to this whole Big Ten Championship, traveling with their team thing.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
They go hard in the paint. Man, Buck guys are
gonna be represented tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Are they well behaved? Are they going to behave themselves
in downtown now.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
I can't promise that, Okay, whatever joking aside, though, downtown tomorrow, Matt.
In addition to cold temperatures, we still got a little
bit of snow, some ice still on the roads. There's
a big time basketball game, there's a big time football game,
and people are shopping, people are going on date night.

(49:31):
It's downtown Indie on a Saturday. It's gonna be a
little congested, so to speak.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
It's gonna bedlam. It's gonna be the wild, Wild West.
And I do like it when it's like that. As
far as the people out having a good time having
a party. You know, I don't party, but everybody else
can and I love to see it. I mean, it
end's going to be a good weekend in downtown. But again,
you have to be careful. And you have still watched
these I need to say this just because it was

(49:57):
such a week on the interstates. I mean, you can
got to watch the those rams we're just when you're
coming downtown bad. It has been bad. We've had crashes
on rams. We have one active right now at Sam
Jones and they've been slick. I've seen it myself. I've
got of my crappy.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
I still can't make it up my driveway in my
main vein the man man. Still can't get in the brick.
Had to last night. I had to kind of turn
into the yard to get traction from the snow and
the grass because I was late shoveling my concrete driveway
and it's just a solid sheet of ice. So I

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know the feeling. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Yeah, And Matt, I'm sure you probably get the feedback
in the traffic center. The salt truck drivers, they get
a lot of crap because sometimes they're not out when
people think they should be, or they're not on the
streets that people think that they should be. We said
this what we were doing, like the coverage that night
when hell was breaking loose, when we criticized the salt trucks,

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we're not criticizing the people that are actually behind the wheel.
We're criticizing the decision makers, right because those people are
working like twelve something our shifts in a row.

Speaker 10 (51:01):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. It's like whatever I
report a semi crash, I'm not mad at the semi driver.

Speaker 13 (51:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
It's the same thing. And a lot of times with
these salt. Guys.

Speaker 10 (51:09):
In delivering the salt, you put it down beforehand, but
as far as the plowing goes, you have to wait
to a certain time to be able to start plowing
with the snow.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
And we you know these like when does Matt Bear
start plowing in the snow? Get in the snow?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Just you could have stopped plowing Mexical in the hell
of a drug.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
That should be your next podcast, Plowing with not Bear.
It's a dating show.

Speaker 10 (51:32):
You're plowing in the snow with Mad Bear. Seven step
process number one. Yeah, it's nobody's yelling. Get the plow
drivers and they're cool, and they're working their butts off.
And remember a lot of times when we get upset
about the salt, somebody has to make a decision to
put the salt down. And sometimes they're like, well, we
don't really believe the forecast. No salt goes down, and

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everybody is sliding all over the place.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
The decision makers have their phone and their text messages
set to silent. Whenever I see somebody that'll set their
text messages to silent.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
You best believe I'm trying to override that bad boy.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And sometimes you know every time
one of my good friends has something that says so
and so.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Is driving and I'm like, well, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
So SO needs to get ahold of the person that's trying.
I really need to get a hold of this Perduell
has that setting on it. And I've tried to add duel.
I've tried to text ab duel before excuse me, I'm driving.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I'll call you back, by the way, speaking of plowing.
Twenty five more likes and we'll get that Ai Alison video.
Oh at some point on our social media. Twenty five
more likes on the YouTube stream. And if that's not
a motivating factor for you, Matt bears on the YouTube
stream right now, and Matt, you look like a million dollars.

Speaker 12 (52:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I was kind of just joking around with him when
I was flexing for the YouTube chat. It's yeah, thanks man.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
It's it's like, how do you stay in shape during
the holidays, Like it's easy to just go on a
bender and blame it on Thanksgiving. Yeah, And I found
myself trying to do that because I'm going to weight
loss journey. I'm not quite as buff as you are, Matt,
but you're not believe it or not. I'm not, But
I found myself trying to behave a little bit more

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but still enjoying life and enjoying food.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
That's excellent. That's what you have to do.

Speaker 10 (53:16):
Sometimes I'm blessed enough for somebody to come up to
me in the gym and ask me what I do,
and to me, it's just okay, how is this radio
show so?

Speaker 3 (53:23):
But then they when they grab your shoulder and whisper
that in your ear, it's always weird.

Speaker 10 (53:27):
No you do, I tell them, I say, I won't
answer unless you whisper the question of my and you
kind of tickle my ear too. It's like this radio show,
how why is it so good? Well, it's because of consistency.
You guys work together, and you know that's the same
thing with anything you do, like exercise.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
You have to be consistent.

Speaker 10 (53:45):
In this December, I don't see for a single reason
I'll stray from my diet or my regime or anything else.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
That's all it is. It's what hard work is.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Well, do you have not really like I mean, as
a recovering alcoholic, I realize that's a whole different animal.
You can't cheat on that at all. But can you
have a piece of pumpkin pie with some extra whipped
cream every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (54:09):
The problem I have is is, and I had this
before I officially certified alcoholic.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Is with certified this paperwork you have to fill out
a little somewhere somebody.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Is getting a six figure salary to see bare pantils
of the floor. Oh, it's official. Fifty more likes, that's
all we need.

Speaker 10 (54:28):
Uh, But yeah, it's uh, it's just I'll have a
cheat day, but it won't be anything significant. Pizza, yeah, yeah,
I'll go get a euro across the street from the ground, Yes,
the garage.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, there's a great place to get a euro. And
I'll go get a euro.

Speaker 10 (54:44):
But like you were talking about here, I mean, it
does you know good if you're not to enjoying your life, man,
you know, so eat the price. So you have kids
that you know one in college Asia, you can have
fun and I know nothing about being a pair, but
it sounds like a good life.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
It sounds like you're doing all the right things. Man.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Man, I appreciate that bad as totally.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
And look, it's okay to ask for help, whether it's
in weight loss or in recovery. I feel like these
are some of the same principles, like fatties like me,
recovering alcoholics like you. I got to a point to
where I couldn't lose any more weight on my own,
so I reached out to Premier Weight Loss. Now full disclosure,
I've become an advertiser with Premier Weight Loss, but it's

(55:19):
because I decided to sign up and use the product
and it's been beneficial to me.

Speaker 10 (55:24):
Well, these products, and like with Premiere Weight Loss, you're
talking about it, I mean they start good habits. When
somebody talks to me, I will always say, go see
a professional with my Jim the YMCA. You get a
couple of sessions and we are not affiliate to why,
but you can go and learn the right way to
do things and guys, nothing, I've never been successful at

(55:44):
anything unless I had help, unless somebody showed me the
right way.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And I get that a lot here at WIBC.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Have you learned as you've gotten older it's easier to
ask for help because when I was younger, and this
is something that I dealt with in my professional career,
I was a one man band. I didn't want to
rely on anybody. I plan for everything by myself. I
was a control freak.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Nige knows this.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I still deal with this a little bit, but as
I've gotten older, it's become a little easier to rely
and ask for help.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
That makes absolute sense.

Speaker 10 (56:16):
We mature, We have experiences that make us know that, hey,
I can't do this on my own, and especially when
we're at the darkest, you know a little bit. It's
its fair and I don't want to bring down the
Friday part of you or anything, but you know, when
you're really down, yeah, you're you do ask for help,
and it's it's just in the evidence that if you
want to proceed to the next level and something, or

(56:37):
if you just want to become a better person, whatever
the reason is, for yourself, for your wife, for your kids.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
You go out and you say, how do I do this?

Speaker 10 (56:45):
And hopefully you're asking the right people, the people you
trust the most, and hopefully that person's going to be
a friend or family a member enough to say, here's
what you're doing wrong in my opinion, and here's what
you can do better.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Because that's a good friend right there.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Matt Bear, what.

Speaker 10 (56:57):
Clip do we have we have supporting I'm on this
podcast Fallas Allison. It's called Supporting Sobriety and it's for
the caregiver, the recovery now caolic an adicted. I do
this with my glorious partner rat Hedrick, who does our
morning news. Here a WIBC Supporting Sobriety podcast and actually
tomorrow we're taping an episode on Christmas and inviting your

(57:18):
addicts still in use for Christmas festivities. So this is
gonna be good stuff for the caregiver. And one of
the things the holidays are just it's brutal for people
that are in recovering people that are not. Sometimes it's tough.
There's so much families, maybe some fractured relationships, and it's
tempting to kind of think, Okay, this is a little
much for me to handle. I think I'm going to
go steal a drink here, and it's very possible for

(57:39):
that to happen.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Make a poll, yeah, sneak a little bit of a poll.

Speaker 10 (57:42):
And you know, anytime you think about that, there's always
a consequence, And one of those consequences is people not
seeing you as a responsible person anymore.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
And I'll tell you what, man, When my father first
came into my life, I was a wreck.

Speaker 13 (57:56):
I was a.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Wreck.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
He was a bank, he was a credit card.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah, I know the feeling. I tried to extort him.
I tried to extort him for everything I thought that
he owed me. Oh yeah, yeah. That's the fun thing
about addiction is that you never do anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, everybody owes you all the time.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 13 (58:19):
Know, and.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I was a victim. Oh yeah, I'm yeah. People have
treated me like my own life and this is not
my fault.

Speaker 10 (58:29):
And that's the interesting thing when we start to attack
our emotions and I don't want to use the word attack,
but you know, deal with our emotions.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
So, Matt, we're up against it here. But where can
we find this podcast? Because it helps so many different
types of people.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
I love this.

Speaker 10 (58:44):
Where can we find it supporting so Bridey at any
major podcast provider?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I use Apple and Spotify. You can find it anywhere
at Sobriety Underscore pod, on Nicks and Instagram. We'd love
to have you. You're the best. Thank you, Thanks for
having me. Hammer and Nigel. You believe these characters are
weird of us?

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, I'm Nigel. Jason Hammer was missing for about an
hour or two today because he was at the State
House celebrating and demonstrating with all the pro redistricting folks
and Turning Point you led the charge. Good job, buddy,
I'm proud of you. I'm raising my hand. Oh yes, yes,
Jason Hammer, go ahead. I did not attend that event.

(59:23):
I'm kind of ticked off.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
They called us Indiana ins because it's Turning Point Action, right,
it's a group that's kind of a spin off of
Turning Point USA Turning Point Action.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
They had a big rally. Big it's about one hundred.
I'm looking at Andrew Representative Ireland's pictures. There's a couple
of hundred. Okay, I've been a couple hundred showed up.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
It's just that the conservative voter, we're not the protest people.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
That's not who we are.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
We're not taking a day off to go down to
the state House unless it's something that's going to benefit
our pocket books. The reason the property tax rally worked
it was like the perfect storm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
There was the holiday, if you want to call it that,
Saint Patrick's Day downtown. It was on a Monday, though,
and still had that amount of people, and people showed
up wearing green and this was something that affected your
the listener, your money.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
This, you know, I got news for you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Like I'm in favor of changing the map because screw
Andrey Carson. I'm in favor of nine and zero. But
I'm also not expecting much either. I think my life
will probably stay the same regardless of which turd is
my representative in the House.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Well, I'm expecting on I keep seeing macro level Donald
Trump's agenda after the midterms, Right, That's what I'm expecting.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Well, if they lose the midterms, the Republicans lose the midterms,
which is normally the case in the midterm election. After
the presidential it's a swing the other side. It's fired up.
If the Democrats win the House, it's going to be
impeachment first. There's going to be nothing that's going to
benefit anybody's life. It's all about Donald Trump and impeachment.

Speaker 14 (01:01:14):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
It's going to be a ridiculous waste of time because
I think the Republicans are going to hang on to
the Senate, so nothing will happen in the Senate. And
even if the Democrats do have an advantage, you have
to have like over sixty votes. It's not going to
happen in the US Senate. So it's a big waste
of everybody's time. But then they get to run around
and do a circle jerk and say we impeach Donald Trump. Okay,

(01:01:36):
So really that's what this is about. That's why I
am in favor of making this nine to zero.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
One.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
My representative doesn't do anything and he's worthless. But number two,
I don't want to have to go through all the
impeachment process because Orange Man bad, because Donald Trump says
something to hurt your feelings. That's what I'm rooting for.
Here a quick point of personal privilege in my end hereage,
we are gonna be out at Googleman House Brewing Company

(01:02:05):
this Sunday. This Sunday, the Colts and the Jags game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Is gonna be on TV. So we want everybody to
come out there and join us. We're gonna drink, we're
gonna gamble, we're going to eat, and it's Franciscan Health.
We're partnering up with Franciscan Health for free health screenings.
Like it's Men's Health Awareness Month November, for God's sake,
I guess November was last month, but it's Look. The

(01:02:30):
point is you could come there and like, you can
get screened. You can ask a doctor, you can ask
a professional, you can you might be able to find
something that starts out small and has the potential turnout
big in terms of your health. All for free, negative
doesn't cost anything. And yeah, the Colts game is gonna
be on right, So come out, hang out with Nige

(01:02:53):
and I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
We're gonna have a real good time and get these
health screenings too because they're there for you for free
from Francisco Health So easy Googman House Brewing Company.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Also, it's Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
If anyone got paid, now would be the time to
get your tickets for our Red White and Bowl charity
bowling events presented by Jack Daniels. It's a beer Sample
Friday on January sixteenth at Woodland Bowl Jack Sample Friday.
This is one of the most fun things that we

(01:03:29):
do all year. We're raising money to help Hoo's Your
Veterans and Bowling to Veterans Link is the charity. So
we're going to take care of some Hoosier heroes that
need a little pick me up, and we are going
to have some beverages. There's a pizza buffet, there's three
hours of bowling.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
There's prizes. The pizza at Woodland so good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
It is too man that pizza buffet and they keep
them coming. You will get your share of pizza.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You got a few weeks to plan for this. It's Friday,
January sixteenth, but its every year. Yeah, so so hurry
but don't you know. Look, just go to WIBC dot com,
get tickets, get a lane. You can do it personally.
You can get a team together. People ticket seriously, people
will have fun. Right, there's competitive bowlers. There's people there

(01:04:18):
to drink as much beer as possible and pass out me.
So depending on where you're at, you can buy a
couple tickets, you and a buddy, you and you know
a family member, or you can get a full lane
of six. Buy a full lane of six. Nige and
I we go lane to lane. We're drinking, we're laughing,
we're talking to everybody. It's a fun night. But if

(01:04:39):
you got paid today, don't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Screw Nigel saying you've got a couple of weeks, kiss
my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Buy your tickets right now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Go to WIBC dot com before this thing sells out.
WIBC dot com look for the red, white and bowl
CNN panel last night. Sometimes it's Scott Jennings as the
one that silences the panel by being the voice of
reason Masterclass. Last night, it was somebody different, Joe Brelli,

(01:05:10):
a Republican from New York. He was talking about this
drug boat Pete Hegsath controversy. Did he intentionally go back
to kill two people in the water. Take a listen
to how Joe Borelli shut down and silenced an entire
panel by saying pretty much the exact same things Nige

(01:05:30):
and I have been saying from day one.

Speaker 16 (01:05:33):
Let me just start by saying, I don't care, not
one bit, genuinely, and Holy do not care about these
two men in the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
We're talking about two people who were clinging to life.

Speaker 16 (01:05:42):
How about the thousands of Americans every month that are
on the floor in some bathroom clinging to life because
of overdoses from drugs that these people brought.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
These guys are not good guys.

Speaker 16 (01:05:52):
But this basically follows the typical democratic fact pattern. It
starts with a fake news story about Pete heechsth that
gets disproven by and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
He didn't actually order them to kill everyone. That's been
sort of taken.

Speaker 16 (01:06:03):
Back, and then it goes into the part where Democrats
defend the bad guys at the expense of law enforcement
and now the American military. This is kind of standard
democratic operations. And if you ask me, I give more
of a crap about the Americans who are losing their
life every single year to drug overdose than two jerks
floating on a boat trying to flip it back over
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
It doesn't matter. I'm starting a slow clap like in
the movie Hoosiers right here. That's perfect. That's what I
want to hear right there, that's right on. Thank you
so much. The Democratic playbook is flawed as it is.
They turn around and start defending the bad guys. Right,

(01:06:42):
Wait a minute, we didn't know what these guys. They
were still alive when they win the droned Wait a minute,
what are you talking about. These guys poison people every
day in this country, and it's poison. It's murder. Right,
people might think as bad as it is is you know,
you buy a xanax, right, and all of a sudden

(01:07:06):
you're on the floor dying a fentanyl because it's mixed.
It's it's you don't know you're taking fentanyl. Now, there
are some people that do do take fentanyl on purpose.
But god, like one hundred thousand people, hammer right, one
hundred people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
If you're somebody that's a old school Democrat, somebody that
feels like the party is leaning pretty crazy and you're
being left behind, this has to drive you insane. All
of a sudden, you've got a chance to take control
of the House of Representatives.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
The midterms are coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
This is our chance to win back the House, and
the party message is we're pro Venezuelan drug boats. Like
you're doing the Frank Dreven face plant at that point,
aren't you like this is why you guys lost the
Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Right here put it like that. That's so ridiculous. Before
we hit a break here, Nige, remember when Donald Trump
called il han Omar garbage.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
He had that big rant on I think it was
Air Force one, did a press gaggle and was talking
about all the fraud, this Somali controversy, all the COVID
fraud with and how ill hand Omar is constantly ripping
on the United States and he called her garbage. Well,
the same party that has Team Venezuelan drug boats. They're

(01:08:31):
very upset that Donald Trump used the word garbage. They're
not upset and he's the fact that he's feuding with
the Representative Omar. They're upset that he used the term garbage.
Here's what Minnesota Reverend Paul Graham said quote, no human
being is garbage.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Mister President.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Amy Klobuchar, Senator of Minnesota also critical of Donald Trump,
saying that people aren't garbage nige. I'm old enough to
remember when Joe Biden called all of Donald Trump's supporters garbage.

Speaker 6 (01:09:09):
Or Puerto Rico where I'm in my home state of Delaware.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
They're good, decent, honorable people.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
The only garbage I see floating down there is just supporters.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Who wants to tell Amy Klobachar, who wants to tell
the reverend?

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Are you really open?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Are you anything's going to be okay?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Are you okay? Yeah? I'm fine. I'm pretty freeing far
from okay. Are you okay with this?

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This is very interesting. I have relatives that graduated from
Taylor University. You've heard of Taylor University up north? Oh yeah,
Taylor University's legendary silent night game is tonight. It's the
twenty eighth time they've done this. Here's what happens. Students
dress in holiday costumes. They all rush into the arena

(01:10:24):
claim their seats hours before tip off, and then once
the game tips off, the fans stay totally silent until
the home team scores their tenth point and then it's chaos.
Flora's rush, lots of singalongs. Are you okay with this? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
I love this?

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
And I think our pal Jake Query from the Fan
went to this last year. It was on his sports
bucket list to go see this game. So again, all
the fans get there hours early. They're in their Christmas
onesie and weird costumes right and once the game officially
tips off, you could hear a pin drop in there.

(01:11:08):
And then when the home team scores their tenth point,
there's a floor rush, there's chaos. So here's what it
sounded like on the Taylor University television feed when they
scored their tenth point a year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Ago, Taylor up nine to four eurostep, So.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Allison play that one more time. Listen how quiet it
is the playboy. Play guy's doing his thing. And then
when the guy hits the layup on the euro step,
listen to the reaction.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Taylor up nine to four eurostep.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
And it's bedlam like for a couple of minutes. Everybody
rushes the floor and then they go back to their
seats to watch the rest of the game. But during
the game, while action's going on, the crowd sings Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Carols and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
The game's going on during this. Yes, I am one
hundred percent okay with that. I think it's a fantastic tradition.
So Henry Nigel Show. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer.
Right over there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
We'll go straight to the highlight and bring on bright
Bart editor in chief Alex Marlow. He's the host of
the Alex Marlow Show. Alex, hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
How are you?

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
I'm doing great. Thank you for having me back on
the show. Everything's going great in my life. I'm in California,
so it's fifty degrees here and there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Would you guys deal?

Speaker 13 (01:12:41):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yeah, we woke up we woke up to a fifteen degrees.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
Yeah, that's where a cross at the threshold. So I
spent eight years on the East Coast and the DC
Virginia area, right, Yeah, so I saw my share of
snow and cold for a California boy. But once it
dips below twenty then gets a little oppressive.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
I gotta admit I mentioned you're the host of the
Alex Marlow Show. I happened to be watching when you
were you reacting to this breaking news in real time
during the show last night about this UK plot to
destroy Breitbart. Can you expand that? I mean, we're gonna
cover a bunch of stuff today with this interview, but

(01:13:22):
this we got to start with this.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Yeah, I got a heads up they reached out to us.
I didn't know when the piece is gonna come out,
but they had reached out say that they were going
to be doing this reporting. And so this website Dropsite News,
which is run by a guy named Ryan Grimm, who
is a pretty good reporter. He's on a left, but
he's got a populous anti authoritarian, anti establishment streak, so

(01:13:47):
he gets a lot right. And he was reporting on
these findings from this book that was being put out
by a actually South African journalist named Paul Holden. And
the book, which is called The Fraud, is about Keir
Starmer and his rise in the UK. Is the Prime
Minister now And what's amazing in the book is it

(01:14:09):
traces back just a few years ago how Keir Starmer's
top guy, his right hand person. So the person who
right now is the single most powerful non elected person
in the UK, guy named Morgan McSweeney quarterback to campaign
to destroy Breitbart News, as well as a few other outlaws.
And the origins of the campaign was Starmer was in

(01:14:31):
a fight for the Labor Party that lead the party
with a guy named Jeremy Corbyn, who might be vaguely
familiar to your audience. He's a very hard left guy
and you get a little popular streak to him, so
not everything he says is horrible, but overall he's a
big government leftist, very anti Israel, so he doesn't vibe
with us at Breit Barb at all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
But he Starmer was.

Speaker 6 (01:14:53):
Trying to stake out his claim to the party and
so we started taking out all these anti Corbin news
sites and use the power that he has to try
to do so via this guy McSweeney, and the campaign
ended up really focusing on Breitbart News because they expanded
it to conservative outlets, even American ones, so other outlets
like Zero Hedge, the federalist things that some of your

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audience certainly reads. Sure, and Breitbart was the tip of
the spear for this is always the case, and so
they were just trying to basically put us out of business,
making so I couldn't feed my kids, which it's hard
for him to do that in the UK, but our
UK bureau is very powerful, it's very influential. Nigel Farage,
as I'm sure I've said on the show at some

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point over the years, has said that Brexit would not
have happened without Breitbart London or London Bureau. So we're
a real threat to the establishment there. But we're always
above board, we're always honest, we're serious journalists, and it
did strike us as surprising that there was this robust
of an effort, and then the guy goes on to
become the Prime Minister.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Breitbart editor in chiefs Alex Marlow, host of the Alex
Marlow Show. Here on the Hammer of Nigel Show, let
me give you something local here in Indiana. But it's
it's it's it's a macro issue. It's this push for
states to redraw the congressional maps to pick up more
seats in the House. There's a rally, turning point action,
turning point USA. Whatever. Had a rally at our state

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House earlier today. J. D. Vance has been here twice held.
We had the governor in our studio with us drinking
beer yesterday pushing for redistricting. And there's some votes about
ready to go down. How important is this When the
governor stops by our studio, it's usually his last event

(01:16:36):
for the day, so we make sure to have middle
lights ready for him.

Speaker 6 (01:16:39):
We take on these and the mill lights to you guys,
are pretty good. Like craft beer area.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Right, tons of breweries, tons of breweries. But we keep it,
we keep it simple for the gov. But he was
in here yesterday, you know, pushing for redrawing the maps.
How how big a deal is this for Donald Trump
and the administration? And what's your analysis?

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
It's massive. I mean, it's a we need every vote
we can get. Just remember the left does not play
by the Marquis of Queensberry rules. They believe political victory
is the single most important thing to them, more important
than faith, family, vocation. They want to win politically, so
now that they will at any chance, they've got draw

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up districts in order to maximalize their chance to win elections.
If we don't do the same thing, we are fools.
We are fools. There's nothing uneffical about it. We have
a rich history in this country of to the victor
goes to spoils you win. You can redraw districts when
the time is right, and if we don't do this,
we could be sacrificing seats. And I'll tell you, I

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think the midterm election is going to come down to
it's going to be in a razor's edge and if
we lose, then it's going to be non stop impeachments,
NonStop investigations, nothing in the agenda gets done, or the
last two years of Trump are going to be more
of Trump's agenda. So if you are standing in the
way of more conservative republic in MAGA seats in the

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twenty twenty sixth election.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Then you are part of the problem speaking of Trump's agenda.
Isn't me or am I seeing like corporate legacy media
is saying that MAGA is fractured, and it's chaos within
the walls of the White House. And Pete Hegseth, the
Secretary of War, is the new boogeyman? Am I crazy?
Or am I seeing more of that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
It's interesting because I get I hear a lot and
it's hard to know what's true. And I'll tell you
that there's obvious fissures in MAGA online. I think that's clear.
A lot of maga's most popular figures have just I
think gotten. They're starting to really focus on completely irrelevant

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subject matters and nothing that has to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Do with us winning Eleven Shapiro versus Tucker Carlson versus
Candae Owins.

Speaker 14 (01:18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
I don't have a big appetite for all of it.
And even though some of these people I like a lot,
and I find myself disagreeing with them, and some of
them I like not at all, I find myself agreeing
with them and that's always weird too. But that's not
helpful because we've certainly lost sight. I think as a
grassroots that the problem is the left, and the reason

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why we all hate the establishment so much is because
the establishment enabled the left to win, because the Republican
establishment was so weak and so corrupt, and so their
priorities are so out of order that they would just
allow for the country to lurch left and lurch into
an era of much bigger government, to endless wars, and
then growing a growing state via the deep state, to

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be our crazy healthcare prices that we have via the
Affordable Care Act. All this are enabled by a week
Republican establishment. So the point is is that if you're
not focused on the left, then I don't have a
ton of time for you. But that's exactly what we've
done over the last couple of months, is we've gotten
very snippy with MAGA and not focused on the real
problems in this country, which is sad. But I also

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think some of it's just cont so I'm not a
total truer in this regard. I think some of it
just people trying to trying to get attention for their
podcasts or their social accounts. And I don't take it
totally seriously. I'm paying attention to it, but I got
to say, I'm not saying that all is lost. I'm
still optimistic that we'll all get focused when the time comes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
You mentioned endless wars, and it just reminded me. It
does seem like another thing that corporate media is perpetuating
is the idea that the United States is going to war,
full on, boots on ground, with Venezuela with the narco terrorist.
That's not really a thing, is it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
And I'll reserve, you know, a ten percent hedge on this.
But from my read right now, this is a kil
mar Brego Garcia Part two. This is the latest hysteria.
Everything Pete Heeksas did was above board and on target
literally and figuratively speaking. Bombing drug boats is a ninety
seven to three issue. They were drug boats, they were
in a drug deal. It is not a war crime.

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It's not even a war that's going on. The Campiany
war crimes the war.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
It's somebody it should tell Hakeem Jeffries that.

Speaker 14 (01:21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
And I think that this is just another attempted media
hysteria slash hoax, and we're getting the better of them.
So I think this is a great I said this
on my podcast and I'm feeling very good about this
that when the second story started bubbling up, I said,
I think this is I think the left is falling
for a trap here. I think Trump is laying out

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a trap with those ninety seven three issues, and he's
letting them drag this out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
And I think that's how it looks today looking back
on twenty twenty five, The biggest L for the Democrats,
my opinion, is the Schumer shutdown. Would you tend to agree?

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
Yeah, it's hard to say what's the biggest because they
don't have really any major wins. I guess they get
picked up some of those midterm wins. I think the
clearest L is the shutdown. That's the clearest Okay, so clearest,
So I would agree with that that that's one where
they just simply they shut the government down, accused Republicans
of it even though they were the ones voting to
shut it down. And then after a record shut down,

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then Democrats vote to open the government. So I don't
see how they say faced it and they got nothing
for it. So I guess that's definitely the clearest L.
The biggest L though, for them, I do think is
that there they have no bench for twenty twenty eight,
and Yavin Newsom has no record. Unless you just like

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men beating women in sports, Kamala Harris completely exited the scene.
But a judge is a huge joke. Their biggest star
by a mile. They're by far the most talented politician
is a Ugandan immigrant who cannot run for president ever,
so Zia Mamdani. So they're pretty they're pretty trapped for
twenty twenty eight, which I think is you know, all

(01:22:50):
this will change, It can and will change, but they
have this should be pretty desperate at this point and by.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
All accounts, before we let you go, Trump have a
good first year.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
I give him a very high mark show first year.
It's a certainly the above, you know, the A level.
For me, I think that there's a couple of things
we could be perfect On Epstein thing was a problem.
I think it hurts with the base energy, but overall,
I think his foreign policy continues to be a plus,
the best I've ever seen, and domestic policy. We got
to tackle some of the supportability stuff, but part of

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that's just messaging. Part of it is a lot of
things have gotten better, but the word hasn't gotten out yet.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Breitbart dot Com Bridebart editor in chief Alex Marlow. Where
can people find the Alex Marlow Show?

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
Thank you Yeah? YouTube?

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Apple?

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
Wherever is your favorite place. Get podcasts, rumbled and Spotify
to if you prefer over there. That's all great and
rappert dot com get the Bright.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Part app Alex. Have a great Christmas and a happy
New Year.

Speaker 14 (01:23:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
We'll talk to you next year.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
You guys are the best. We'll see you next year.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
A holiday theme to be your sample Friday, of course,
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An entire hour of the Hammer and Nigel Show coming
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Now you'll notice, could you imagine trying to get Rob
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Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
This is twelve ouncer Now it is nine point eight
percent alcohol. Okay? So, uh, Saint bernardis Christmas?

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Al Is that Saint Bernardi's on the cover there? Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Don't know what's going on. Carson cheers to the Indiana Hoosiers. Man. Yeah, man,
go Hoosiers, win that thing. Hm hmm. Get a little
uh kick to it there. I can see why it
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