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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
You believe these characters are weirdos.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
So last time.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hammer is tomorrow's Senate vote on redrawing the maps.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Is that tailgate worthy?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Should we get a big tub and fill it with
ice and buy a keg and just go sit out
in front of the State House in twenty degree weather.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'll do you one better.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, we buy all of those things and we go
to our new building to tick off all of.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Our new neighbors.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oooh, the Urban one building where we're allegedly moving into tomorrow.
Let's go in there with the keg and as fully
stocked bar and tailgate.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
This big vote in the Senate. Just a side note,
just a question. Why'd you say allegedly moving into the
new building tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Well, this was supposed to happen about a year ago.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well it was supposed to have been yesterday and a
year ago to yesterday.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Right, But we've been told the line has been drawn
in the sand. Yep. That's it. And this is the
final show here at the Crystal Palace as we call it,
the Immus Communications Monument Circle Studio. Yes, now, before we
get back into the whole changing of the maps conversation, Yes,
Nige and I put together a little video to say

(01:17):
farewell to this building we've called home for a number
of years. You did a very good job on this,
So if you want to watch our breakfast club inspired video,
go to the hammer in Nigel Show social media, Facebook, Twitter,
and Instagram. You'll find it all over the place. It's
a little hat tip to eighties kids and you and

(01:39):
I spending quite a bit of time in this building night.
It's a little inside baseball in there too, But I
think you guys will enjoy it. Make sure you share it,
get that out all over the place. But no, I'm
interested because it sounds like, at least as of right now,
the votes aren't there in the Senate. Now twenty four

(02:03):
hours could be a lifetime. We have no idea what's
going to happen between now and tomorrow. There could be
some senators to get wishy washy that decide to change
their minds.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Could totally happen.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Got out of committee. It did, But it sounds like
in terms of the big role called vote, the votes
aren't there. And I've noticed this, and this is what
bothers me. I noticed this, and so has Politico. When
we notice the same things. It's a little squirrely for
me because I think those guys are some scumbags. But

(02:37):
we both noticed because I talked about this a couple
of days ago, and Politico put out a message on this.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I think it was yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
The changing of these outside groups perspective, I think is
a tell like Turning Point USA and some of these
super packs that came in to spend money to try
to rease up the senators, big rallies. The messaging has
now gone from you need to do this too, We're
gonna get revenge and we're gonna primary you.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
So it seems like.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's become more ooh, so we reactionary.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
We know this isn't gonna happen, so you're gonna get primary.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Interesting. Interesting Now again, twenty four hours could it change.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
But as of right now, from all of the folks
that we trust over at the State House, our sources,
it doesn't sound like the votes are there.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I want to perpetuate Trump's agenda. I have not been
apologetic in saying that I think we need as many
seats in the House as possible. I think it needs
to happen. I know there's been some really good arguments
from Rod Kendall in his side of the aisle against this,

(03:50):
and I understand it, and we've had our back and forth,
but I just you know, in twenty twenty six those midterms,
oh boy, it's gonna be razor thin. There's nothing unethical
about redistricting, and I think if it doesn't happen, it
could be trouble for the Republicans in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
In terms of job security here in Indiana. What's interesting
though the faces of the we don't want to change
the map Republicans. These folks aren't even up for election
next year. Many of them are two and three years
down the road. Like for all of you people, And
I'm raising my hand that are looking forward to trying

(04:34):
to kick Rod Bray out of a job.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Good luck, Palicals. You're gonna have to wait a couple
of years.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
They got to remember property tax.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
I hope they should.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, unless they fix it sometime in the next session.
Who's optimistic about that it's gonna get fixed.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
We've been told it's going to get fixed, the property tax.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
One thing that is not going to be fixed is
this crappy weather streak that we've got going on. Here
in Indie right now, man, Come on, man. So I
had to run some errands this morning. So I got
up about seven o'clock, walked outside. It wasn't bad, little
light rain. It was in the forties. All my snows
melted off the driveway. Yeah. By the time I was

(05:15):
coming home from the store at about eight thirty, temperature
had dropped like twenty degrees. That rain was turning into
snow and freezing sleet. So it's getting pretty fugly. And
we're going to see some snow accumulation this weekend and
just brutal low temperatures Saturday and Sunday, lows and single digits,

(05:39):
which means wind chill probably around zero or even colder
than that, below zero.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
You know, we could do this show from anywhere in
the United States.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I know.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
We choose to come to work, right, We choose to
come to work. Hey, Tony Katz came to work this morning, Michaels,
when you need do you believe in miracles? Yes? I
think he just came here to steal some office equipment,
but he was here final day.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
He was here again.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I got people in the YouTube chat asking me, are
you really going to steal Mike Penci's chair. Watch the video.
Watch the video we posted and you'll get that answer. Okay,
watch the video at Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Look for
Hammer and Nigel. Make sure you follow us. You will
get your answer in that video. Miss Allison, can we

(06:30):
get a little holiday mood music?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Please?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Please?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Does this song bring you joy or bring you hell?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
My initial reaction was, oh, dear Lord, I'll take that
as a hell. But I understand it's a popular Christmas
song and my kids love it.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
A list of Christmas carols and songs from Hell include
jingle Bells by William Shatner and Henry Rawlins. No way,
this is a new report that came out of Christmas
songs and carols from Hell. Here is jingle Bells from
William Shatner and Henry Rawlins.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Okay, now the light go with love, You're.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Young, Take the girl should night and sing the slaying song.
Just get a plot tailed play to forty at a steed.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
If you're doing open slag and crack your pleas off.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Of Allison, I'm gonna have you turn that down because
I don't want Sean Copeland to be to hear it
and get any ideas of playing it every five minutes, No,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think on Christmas Eve this station switches to Christmas
music for a day or two.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
That should be the first song. So tell me if
that song you just heard from William Shatnon, the Old
Brick Schathouse and Henry Rawlins, is that better or worse
than the Little Drummer Boy performed by William hung.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Day.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I like it on you.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
To see.

Speaker 9 (08:28):
Keep going going FINEXCUSA, dear lord, what do you prefer
to I think I'm team William hung here.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think I'm hung on this for the first time
in your life. Congratulations. All right there it is uh.
Let us know what you think in the YouTube chat
and again to answer your questions, I will not confirm
nor din and I there's a certain piece of furniture

(09:03):
locked in my office. Okay, but you can watch our
new video. Do us a favor and share that to
the masses and you'll get your answer. So your guy.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Philip Rivers, who last played football for the Indianapolis Colts
in twenty twenty, met with the press today. He will
wear number seventeen. He will be playing for the Colts again.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Now years later. Daniel Jones wears number seventeen. I was
wondering about that, but the NFL made a ruling since
Daniel Jones is out for the rest of the year,
there's no conflict here, so they gave Philip Rivers number seventeen.
Players get a little they get a little jittery about
that kind of thing, right, It's a big deal to

(09:48):
a lot of dudes, right if they're wearing the same numbers.
And yeah, Sauce Jones or Sauce Gardner had a little
conflict with downs, yes, and bought the jersey number from him.
Usually they bought it financial real his action or some
sort of gift. Yeah, involved interesting, But Daniel Jones was.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Like, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
It's not like I'm wearing it anytime soon. So, uh,
Philip Rivers is wearing seventeen. Here he is speaking to
the press earlier in regards to how this thing came
to be. Did Coach Steichen call him up in the
timeline of this whole situation?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's what it was. Deals.

Speaker 10 (10:30):
I was like, shoot, you know, you immediately the competitor
in you, and uh, you get kind of excited, like, man,
shoot target, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You know?

Speaker 10 (10:38):
And uh, I was like, well, I'm we'll see you know,
and uh and then Monday morning it kind of sped up,
sped up a little bit, and uh, I just said, well,
I got to get up there and throw. It's one
thing if I, you know, throw the ball here in
this out back and uh to a stationary target and
it feels pretty good. But maybe I'll look at it
and say, you know, so I was like, I want

(10:59):
you to be honest.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Let me just get up there.

Speaker 10 (11:01):
And uh so that went well on Monday afternoon. Again,
I know rous on air is not playing the position
on a Sunday afternoon. I do know that. But again,
we're gonna take it one day at a time. I'm excited.
I feel good. It's also very comforting h to know
the offense and uh, you know, that's a big that's
a big deal, you know, to be able to h
see that call sheet on Tuesday morning and be able

(11:23):
to know what every play is.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Remind everybody what it means when he said I know
the offense.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, he's a high school football coach. His son, one
of his sons, is a quarterback on the team. They
run the exact same offense that the Colts run, and
He's been in contact with coach Stike in all season
long on what's working, what's not working, what do you
see against this defense? Stike it used to be one
of his coaches back when he was with the Chargers,

(11:50):
so they've got a great relationship and I think, honestly,
that's where this whole thing.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Came to be.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Let's hope that translates. The highlight of the press conference
was somebody asked, Philip Rivers, are you even in shape?
What's your weight?

Speaker 11 (12:05):
What if you're playing?

Speaker 10 (12:06):
What are you playing right now, right this second? I'm
not sure?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
How about that? That's an honest answer.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I don't know what I weigh, but I could throw
this football through a brick wall, So what can you do?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Hopefully, it's like riding a bike with these guys man,
And we did go to the playoffs in that COVID
year in twenty twenty, right, so under Philip Rivers. So
you know, wow, I'm I'm going to be very interested
to watch this game. It's gonna be an interesting game
on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
We don't know who the stars yet. I know, I know, technically,
wink wink, he's only on the practice team right now,
but the dude ain't coming out of retirement and throwing
his Hall of Fame eligibility to the reset era to
be on the practice team. That ain't happening. So with
him being a grandpa, with him being forty four, we're

(13:01):
gonna play a little game here with Allison. Okay, how
many songs about getting old have you heard of?

Speaker 10 (13:07):
Here?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I've put together a seven song montage. It's interesting about
men and women talking about getting old or being old?
How many has Alison heard of? I've got the over
under set at five and a half Nige.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Past few times we've done this, I've gone over. I'm
going under on this one because I don't know what
to expect.

Speaker 12 (13:29):
I really don't either.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, these are popular songs as I always make them,
and it's honor system as always, Alison, if you've heard it,
let us know.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Here we go one for one Glory.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Days, Yeah, Toby Keto, as I have two for two?
Will you still need me? Will you still feed me?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
When on sixty four I have?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's good?

Speaker 12 (14:03):
I don't think so? Yes?

Speaker 10 (14:07):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So this is three Landslide by Stevie Nix. She's got three.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yes, four, Yes, this is the big one.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And bring back. Yes, fine, there's the over beat me.
There it is.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I should have never died, y Alice of my mad
You missed when I'm.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Sixty four by the Beatles.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, okay, and I can't think of what the other one.

Speaker 12 (14:34):
Was, said a wedding singers, Oh grow old.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
With you Robbie Hart on the plane in the movie
the wedding singer.

Speaker 12 (14:39):
Well, you know, Adam wasn't singing, so that's why I
didn't recognize her.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
That's what it was before we hit a break here.
Let's go into the break with something from one of
my favorite YouTube channels. Okay, there, I ruined it where
they take popular songs and ruin it for all of
us to enjoy. Pretty simple concept. They've taken a Christmas classic,

(15:03):
Santa Claus is coming to Town. But this is how
it would sound if it were performed by those downers
at Radiohead.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
You better wad.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You better come.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
We gotta let it go to the come on us.

Speaker 12 (15:25):
I'm surprised this isn't real.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I'm telling you Radiohead.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He's making a I don't know if I can take
into the chorus or eyes. SA was naughty.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I wish I were naughty.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's so very here.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
It is Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
He's coming to.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I think you oversold that horus. Tom, you're just a
little bit there. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
It does.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with
a very special in studio guest.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
The clock is ticking on, changing of the congressional maps.
Sounds like we got to vote tomorrow. And joining us
now to talk a little bit about this, The former
co chair of Donald Trump's Indiana campaign, Tony Samuel, joins us.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Hey, Tony, welcome back, my friend. How are you guys?

Speaker 11 (16:37):
Thanks for having me, especially thanks for having me on
your last day here in the studio. I'm honored.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Turn the lights out when you leave. We're asking all
of our guests to do that. Make sure you turn
all the faucets off and turn the lights off. That's
all we're asking.

Speaker 11 (16:50):
And I heard your reasoning of what you don't want
to see when you look out the window. That made
perfect sense. It might still be going on the block.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
But maybe again, just to be clear, the show is
still going on. We're just moving to silly.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's right, correct, correct.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, So this time tomorrow we'll probably be talking
about the vote that's taking place at the Indiana Senate
scheduled to be tomorrow. Things could change, but we believe
this vote is happening tomorrow. Before we get into any
of the nuts and bolts here, just big picture, Tony.
Do you think the redistrict plan is a good idea?

Speaker 11 (17:27):
It is a good idea. And the reason being is
when you vote for a president in a presidential election,
this time it was twenty twenty four, you vote for
that president because you share his vision, his policies. You
expect him to run the country the way you've voted
and the way he's campaigned. You do that for a
four year term. You don't do it so then a

(17:48):
different makeup of Congress can come in and obstruct him,
as we saw in his first term when he got
elected in twenty sixteen. So you do it for a
four year term. And that's kind of my rationale or
the basis, so the midterm since the terms or the problem,
and so if I can jump into it, if you want,
the way I see it as the president is elected

(18:09):
by winning the electoral college, as we all know two
hundred seventy votes out of five hundred.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
And thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Those electoral college votes are.

Speaker 11 (18:18):
Awarded to the president when he wins most states by
even one vote by the popular vote, it's a winner
take all system. He wins a state, he gets all
of those electoral college votes in forty eight states and Washington,
d C. Just not in Maine and Nebraska. They do
it a little differently, where Maine has four electoral college votes,

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Nebraska five. But in Indiana, as you know, we have
eleven nine US House seats and two US Senate seats.
So when a president wins in Indiana, he's won in
twenty sixteen by fifty seven percent, twenty by fifty seven
percent of then in twenty twenty four by fifty nine percent.
I'm saying those districts, those nine congressional districts should reflect

(19:03):
the same popular vote margin, and you do that for
a US senator. US Senate races are statewide, and those
are also the same popular vote margin that the president wins.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So you feel like it should be based off of
the electoral college results.

Speaker 11 (19:19):
Then absolutely, because that's how the presidency is based.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
So what would be your response to somebody who's listening
right now. That's like, but wait a minute. I feel
like our governor should be the one that makes these decisions.
I'm picking people that are making decisions for us in Indiana. Yes,
they're going to Washington, d C. They're going to work
for the president, but I want somebody from Indiana to
make these decisions. And maybe you know there are some

(19:45):
pockets in Indiana that are a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
What would be your response to that person?

Speaker 11 (19:49):
The response is, when you win those electoral College votes,
that's how the presidency is based. So you win eleven
but nine US House districts, you can you can draw
the maps as long as they're fair and and you
know that's the whole purpose here is to have fair
representation in Washington, d C. You can draw the maps
any way that you want, as we're seeing as we're

(20:11):
seeing over there in the State House right now. But
it should be I'm saying it should be based on
that popular vote because it's the it's the it's the
popular vote in Indiana that gave Donald Trump, and it
doesn't matter who who the presidential candidate is or what
year it is. It should be based on the same
vote total in each district. The same margin, and I

(20:31):
should say the same baseline vote.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm for in Tony, I'm for redistricting. I think that
I think it's a good idea. Is there any guarantee though,
that this happens and it runs through the Senate and
it's voted on and redraw the maps that those two
seats get flipped?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, like, what are the chances?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, if it's what I'm saying is like, I'm kind
of like, you know, playing Devil's advocating.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Sure, sure, what.

Speaker 11 (20:59):
You would have is you wouldn't have a seventy percent
district here in central Indiana and in the Indianapolis area that
goes one way. You would spread those votes out and
they shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. There shouldn't be a
seventy percent Democrat district or a fifty six fifty eight
percent district in northwest Indiana because going back to that

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electoral college, when when you use those to pick the president,
if it wasn't that way, then I wouldn't be arguing this.
But when it is that way, why do you then
give to electoral college essentially two votes away in Congress
and a new Congress because you you didn't match the
popular vote. So to your question, if you spread out

(21:42):
those seventy percent in the others and you try to
get now it's not going to be exact in every district,
but you try to get to that same baseline vote, Yeah,
it actually makes it more fair for a Democrat running
in the current sixth or the fourth or just about
any other, you know, Republican district because there's more than

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that fifty seven baseline vote in those Republican districts. What
you have now is a seventy percent district here in
the Indianapolis area, and then you have over sixty percent
Republicans in the seven Republican districts. You would actually have
more fairness. And if you did this across the country.
You know, one statistic we hear every election is that

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there's only a handful of congressional seats that are competitive. Really,
from what I've read, it's like sixty nine seventy congressional
seats out of four hundred.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
And thirty five.

Speaker 11 (22:34):
If you did this, you would have fairness across the
more fairness across the board. But what another way of
looking at it is the Democrat states do this already.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So there are ten.

Speaker 11 (22:45):
Democrat states that are blue states because they vote president
for a Democrat president each time, and then they have
zero Republicans, all Democrat congress people. Massachusetts is the perfect
example because they have the aim number. They voted for
Biden and then they voted for Commonland that sixty percent range.

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They didn't just give Republicans two seats two years later.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I was going to ask you, do any states go
along with this concept that you're talking about here.

Speaker 11 (23:15):
I don't think they explain it that way. I think
Democrats were just more aggressive on this, smarter if you
want to say, and they didn't allow any Republican seats
in those states.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Whether they use.

Speaker 11 (23:28):
This argument, I haven't heard it before, you know, based
on the electoral college and the popular vote. But that's
the reasoning. The problem really with this debate here in
Indiana it's been going on for several months now, is
the messaging has been poor all across the board.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
That's been a Republican problem for a while. Like outside
of Donald Trump, who is you know, he gets his
messages across Republicans from a local level, so even a
national level, they're not the best at getting their message
out there.

Speaker 11 (23:59):
Yeah, and I agree one hundred percent with that, and
that's why I've given it so reason. I've given it
so much thought. So I'm on this television political television
show called In Focus on Fox fifty nine and CBS four. Heures, yeah,
thank you. And it's also sometimes I don't know if anyways,
but it's on, so people are watching. It's also on
in Fort Wayne and tear Out and Evansville at different

(24:21):
times of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
So we get this.

Speaker 11 (24:23):
I get this question every time I'm on for the
last three or four months. So I've given a lot
of thought. Of course, I'm a Trump guy. You guys
know that, So you know there's those reasons when you
vote for Trump to be your president, and you see
the progress that he's making in all kinds of areas,
the economy, stopping drugs at the border, stopping wars around
the world, all of these things. Crime in our big cities.

(24:46):
You don't want to see what happened in that first term. Again,
so it makes sense politically, it makes sense for the voter.
It's fair to the voters that are voted for him.
And then again it's because that baseline Republican vote in
the state we're talking about a different state, Illinois that
always votes for a Democrat for president. You know this
would apply to them as well. Their districts should should

(25:08):
match that same baseline vote, but they would there would
be more fair I think if they went by this
kind of methodology.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
One more thing here, Tony, before we let you go,
Tony Samuel with us, a former co chair of Trump's
Indiana campaign. Let's say the votes are not there. That's
kind of what we're hearing right now as of today.
Could change, but we're hearing the votes are not there
to pass this through and the Senate tomorrow. What's going
to happen to some of those lawmakers senators in Indiana

(25:39):
that vote no on this? Because you've got people like
Turning Point USA, other packs involved here, Like, what's going
to happen because some of these guys aren't up for
reelection this year? Is the public going to remember this?
Is this something that two or three years from now
Rod Bray is going to have a hard time with?

Speaker 11 (25:57):
It could be that this is just me speaking here.
I hate seeing that kind of thing. I mean, I
think when you get into politics, people are going to
have disagreements. The job here is to educate. I didn't
have to, like, you know, put together my talking points.
I did it because I'm on that show, and because
I care about, you know, what happens in the country,
and I know those guys in the state House, so
I've talked to a few of them. But I don't

(26:20):
like saying, you know, seeing somebody's get going to get
taken out for this reason or this vote or not,
it's an important vote. They the state legislators need to
realize they have a national responsibility here. Yeah, they're elected
for state policy, but this is the one time they
can affect national politics. They can affect you know, the
FETANHL coming into the country right and killing you know, hoosiers,

(26:41):
and that's what that's where they need to take it.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Seriously.

Speaker 11 (26:43):
I don't like, you know, the threats that are going on,
but I do think they've got to think about it
as a national responsibility.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Does Indiana have a soft Republican problem? And I talked
about this a lot when Governor Holcombe was the governor.
I've made it perfectly clear. Wasn't the biggest fan. You
couldn't tell if this dude was a Democrat or a Republican.
He wanted to lock you up for not wearing a mask.
It feels like there's a lot of people that say,

(27:12):
I want to make Republicans great again, channeling that Donald
Trump make America great again. We need to make Indiana
Republicans Republican again. Does that make sense?

Speaker 11 (27:21):
It makes absolute sense.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You know, when I.

Speaker 11 (27:25):
First started supporting Donald Trump, it was twenty fifteen, and
people chuckled at me and that kind of thing. And
I've seen it, you know, And these are a lot
of them Republicans that they just they never liked the
guy's style, so they were opposed to him in the
first place. So they still are, even though they might
not say it publicly anymore, they still are.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
That is a.

Speaker 11 (27:46):
Problem at the State House because but the answer to
that is, look at the policies. You know, whether you
like his style or not, I happen to get a
kick out of it. I think you guys do it.
He's the funniest president we've ever had. But he he
cares about the American people. I think everything that he
does is motivated by that. And folks over there in

(28:08):
the State House, uh, and I know we're talking about Republicans.
They need to get over the fact that they didn't
like him in the first place.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Right you know, Tony Samuel, we appreciate you. Thanks for
taking the time for joining us. Anybody it's Sammer and
Nigel show, Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Do you believe these characters are weirdo us? I got
to get the bread and milk.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Warning snow they get the bread of milk. I got
to get the credit.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I love Marcus Bailey from Wish TV And I'm glad
which TV, by the way, is on back on YouTube TV,
so that's a plus. But uh, and I do want
to hear your thoughts on Philip Rivers your huge cold stand.
But meteorologist Marcus Bailey here from WISH TV on the
Hmmer Nigel Show, you got some bad news for us,

(29:02):
don't you.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
I love that you play that for me every time
this time of you're it's like full heel turn, you know,
Like I hear the booze in the audience when that
comes on, like, oh not.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
But you got to embrace it though, like you're a
Reggie Miller in the Garden kind of guy. I think
you like the hatred absolutely listen.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
I have said it on a we got a YouTube
TV audience now I have a whole new, brand new
crowd to make angry for the next three months.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
This is gonna be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And let me tell you something of somebody that chats
with the YouTube crowd. It's a mixed bag. Good luck,
good luck with that, Marcus. It's a mixed bag. You're
gonna get some passionate, die heard awesome people, and you're
gonna get a lot of these people that pee sitting down.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
You're gonna get both, right.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yes, But you know what, Marcus, before you deliver some
just probably awful news to us here, I do want
to compliment you because the last couple of times you've
been on our show, you have absolutely nailed that forecast, like.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Down to the hour, down to the minute.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
When we've had you on, you've delivered. I know, as
somebody that dabbles in the sports betting media, when you
miss something, everybody wants to talk about it, but when
you get it right, nobody wants to give you credit.
So I'm here giving you credit. You've been on a heater,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (30:25):
First of all, I appreciate that Allison clip that that
would be fantastic.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
You know it.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Now for the bad news.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So let's go.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
So we we had kind of our brief warm up
here the last couple of days. And here's here's the
interesting staff for you guys. We hit the forties yesterday.
We actually were in the forties this morning. Do you
guys know the last time we actually were above.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Forty degrees Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
It was the day before the.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yeah, and that's if you guys remember that was super
windy that day. It was real mild, but it got
real windy and then the bottom dropped out and all
of a sudden, it's January for the last three weeks.
So we have that kind of brief spell the last
couple of days. That's done now, and so a few
things that I think you guys need to be aware

(31:18):
of tonight. I don't think it's a huge concern, but
we have obviously flipped the switch to cold again. It's
still blustery, the temperatures continue to fall. We've already kind
of flipped the switch to kind of some wintry precipitation tonight.
For the most part in the metro, it's been light.
There's some lake effects snowbands that basically stretch from Cocomo
up to South Bend right up thirty one, and some

(31:40):
of those may sneak down into the metro area, specifically
the northern metro area. I don't think we get much
in accumulation, but we could get a few bursts between
now and mid evening to give you maybe you know,
lower visibilities and maybe some slick conditions.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So Marcus, real quick, what's it called when there's a
short burst of snow that cause some visibility damage? Is
there a term for that?

Speaker 7 (32:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Hang on, hang on, Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I love the clearing of the throat, the dramatic clearing
of the throat.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
If that doesn't win a Marconi Award, then the award
shouldn't exist.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
That's right, that's right. But yeah, so you could have
a few of those I don't like. I said, I'm
not overly concerned, but they're kind of like thunderstorms, right,
I've explained these on your show before. They're tough to
pick out where they're going to be kind of most intense.
But if you get under one real quick bursts, that
could lead to some slick spots. So just you're getting
ready to leave work, you got you know, sporting events tonight,

(32:41):
just be aware of that. That could that could be
an issue. Okay, that's an issue.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh go ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say, so we
got that going on tonight. You have a few squalls,
have a little bit of a snow, temperatures botting me out.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Okay, that's December.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Now I'm hearing some scuttle butt, some rumor that like
Thursday into Friday, we're about to get punched in the
face with some snow.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Yeah. I think so, you've got the pattern remains active.
It's just one after another after another after another kind
of system here and so tomorrow into Friday, and so
I think the timetable of it could be as early
as the evening drive. I'm slightly concerned with maybe starting
around three, four or five o'clock in the afternoon with

(33:24):
some snow showers, but a lot of the consistent projections
I've been looking at, this is mainly going to be
a late night and overnight event. But just be aware
at the earliest of this thing speeds up a little bit,
we could have some snow starting by the evening drive.
I definitely think the morning drive is going to be
difficult for Friday morning.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm hopeful that the.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Falling snow's going to be done by the commute, but
obviously we're gonna have some new accumulation. Right now, I'm
leaning right through the heart of central Indiana two to
four inches.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I think there could be some.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Isolated higher mouth. I don't think we go significantly higher,
but I think a very consistent broad range of two
to four across all of Central Indiana, which would include
the entire listening area probably in the cards for US overnight,
which is going to lead to a really commute Friday morning.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
So, Marcus, this Friday night, I know a lot of
people like to go out and do holiday events, whether
it's a look at the lights, or go listen to
Christmas music, or maybe they've got their company Christmas parties.
How bad is it going to be Friday night.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
I think Friday night's probably fine. So the snow is
going to be long gone before daybreak Friday morning, and
so the rest of the day it's going.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
To be cold.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
I think the best that we can do Friday afternoon
is going to be in the mid twenties, and you're probably.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Looking at lows single digits in northern Indiana.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
We're probably in the low teens for the evening and
overnight hours for Friday night.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
But you shouldn't have.

Speaker 7 (34:48):
Any major weather issues new issues outside of the cold
and whatever roads that haven't been treated from Thursday night system.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Okay, so the roads will be crappy just Satura anticipates Saturday.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
My family and I were doing New Fields. What's that
looking like? Okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
That's the last one of this kind of wave here.
So on Saturday night you got a third front. This
is gonna be a big polar front, not a ton
of moisture with it. And right now, you know, well
the fine tune the timing that it looks to me
like if when we get snow, if we're gonna get
snow out of this, it's gonna be really, really really

(35:26):
late Saturday night, so i'd be hopefully be done while
around New Fields. Now, I'll say this night, it's gonna
be darn cold Saturday. I've got a high twenty two,
the warmth day for a couple of days like low
twenties and overnight lows. This will be the coldest of
the season. And by the way, we may lay down
another inch or two of snow with Saturday night system.

(35:48):
We're gonna be down to zero. I think both Saturday
night Sunday morning, and then Sunday night Monday morning, and
then more than that, Fellas, I think windsholds could be
like ten to twenty below zero. So wow, fun, yeah,
I mean again, we're in early to mid December. This
is this is more typical of what we would usually
see at mid to eight January. Like, this is core

(36:10):
r winter stuff. We're getting a real early taste of it.

Speaker 11 (36:13):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Marcus, we got about thirty seconds left here. Your thoughts
on forty four year old Philip Rivers coming back a
lah Burt Reynolds in the remake of the Longest Yard
to Save the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
I don't even know what to think. Man, I'm forty
four years old, and like, I'm not like some premier athlete,
and I've got like aches and pains every morning I
wake up. I can't imagine what this dude, this fields
like that, No kid, whatever, I mean, what else are
we gonna do? You know, at this point, at what
else can.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
You do with the highs and lows of this Colts team?
This season?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh my gosh, Wow, season has just been I mean.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
We were so high up on oh my gosh, I
know we figure it out, and now it's like we
may not now a quarterback this year, but we may
not have a quarterback next year because.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's still long.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
Oh my gosh, it's just go, old guy, let's go.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
That's right, man on behalf of old guys statewide.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I supported number seventeen at the beginning of the season,
and damn it, I'm supporting number seventeen at the end
of the season.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Now you hate do you watch your mouth? You know
in honor phil verbs you I think that gummet?

Speaker 4 (37:17):
That gummet?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Right?

Speaker 4 (37:18):
And shoot?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yes, and shoot Marcus Bailey, where can we get more coverage?

Speaker 7 (37:24):
I'll be on the online all night and all the
rest of the week at Facebook, at x and Instagram
and TikTok and of course at wishy dot com.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
All right, Marcus, thank you, and Nige. The thing we've
got to keep in mind here is how crappy these
roads are going to be the next couple of days.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Just got to prepare for it.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
How am I going to prepare for it? When an't
we going to put snow chains on my man van?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Well, your man van doesn't handle spring days.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
When it's seventy, So you may be in trouble, but
for everybody else, I kind of put together an anthem
for you. Okay, this is a hammer in Nigel Records
new single. Oh, this is an honor of the crappy
roads we're about to experience the next couple of days,
black ice and potholes and snow and all things that

(38:16):
in between. And when I put this together, I was
listening to a little of John Denver's greatest hits. Massive
pot holes downtown Indie. Uh oh, no plow trucks, people

(38:37):
getting yep orange barrells blocking all the streets under construction
since nineteen eighty three. Go crappy roads, Take me home.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
It is to my place.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
In beach Ground, boss hog set, drunken Drama, Take me Home,
Crappy rows. Second verse, you go, lots of black ice
on the highway, people spinning cars are going sideways. True,

(39:30):
three flat tires and damage to my car. If you're
looking for the mayor, you might check out the bar
about crappy roads. Take me home.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
To my place.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
In Beach Grown, boss hog set, drunken drama. Take me home,
big fetish crappy roads. There you go a new single,
look at him, look for him at the bar from
Hammer and Nigel Records ever present.

Speaker 11 (40:15):
It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Is this anything.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
By Indiana Unclaimed presented by the Attorney General's Office here
in Indiana, reuniting hoosiers with over one million dollars in
unclaimed property every single week, fast, easy and free to
search at Indiana Unclaimed dot gov.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Is this anything? Burger chain in and out popular on
the West Coast.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
You think it's overrated.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I do.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
That's not bad, but everybody makes it sound like it's
the best thing since sliced bread. It's okay, it's a
spot at four o'clock in the morning. Sure it's pretty good.
When I'm on the Vegas Strip, I usually grab one.
But they've reportedly yanked out a number from their order line,
number sixty seven six seven. Because of that whole stupid

(41:11):
six to seven trend, Teenagers have been hanging out in
the dining era area waiting specifically to get order sixty
seven so they could freak out and make viral videos.
Here's one of those times, and then you'll hear an
employee explaining why they had to get rid of this
stupid number six seven.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
We have taken sixty seven hundred, so whenever we're taking orders,
they go sixty six sixty eight because the people like you.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Because some people like you, more people are coming to
your facility, so they could get the six seven. It's
a dumb cultural thing that's fading away. By the way,
we were asking my daughter, my eleven year old, about
the six seven. It's like a rap lyric or. It
could mean it's a nonsensical thing. It doesn't make any

(42:06):
sense whatsoever. But I think that's a bad idea to
take it out of the Like what's the problem it's
sud thing that we're full of people ordering food there?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Are they ordering food or are they just hanging out
to do the stupid celebration for when somebody has the number.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
No, I don't know. No, that's a good question. I
would assume if you're just at a fast food restaurant,
you're ordering food.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Like if I'm in an in and out Burger and
there's a pretty good line in front of me, I
let's say I'm number seventy four. I don't want to
have to stand in the back of the building hoping
I can hear my number because a bunch of teenage
numbnuts are up there taking their pants off when somebody
says six to seven, Like, those lines get pretty long.
Itig seven, You know when you go to the one

(42:50):
on the Vegas strip, man, that line's out the window.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Here is this anything?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
A deer broke into a Tennessee Christmas store then got
its legs caught in a wooden chair. Here are the
deputies chasing and then freeing the animal. Here it comes.

(43:17):
You better grab a time legs, take this chair off.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Let's get her out already.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Quantity.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
We gotta imitate the voice, right, the deer voice trapped
in the chair. We gotta do that, all right.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I'm gonna need to hear it one more time though.
I was gonna kind of get to like the middle
of that clip where we heard the deer should go first, please.
I didn't know if that's what dear sound alike? All right, Alison,

(44:01):
your turn, kaus.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
That's the screaming goat a little bit, a little bits,
but with the lower pitch.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I just got a text from Lindsay Leskowski. Yes, is
that tape from our honeymoon?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I think Allison did it the best I'm the best.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 7 (44:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Hammer.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
A lot of corporations and companies have their holiday parties
after Christmas just because it's maybe cheaper and their people
are more available. I think they should consider doing that
for the Red White and Bowl Hammer and Nigel Bowling
Event presented by Jack Daniels. It's Friday, January sixteenth at
Woodland Bowl. You and I would be broadcasting live. This

(44:55):
is our third year doing this. We're raising money for
veterans and it sells out every time, so get in
on the action while you can.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
It sells out quickly and we're on pace to do
that again. Six full lanes are gone, some individual tickets gone.
So if you want to attend our event this year
and again, what it is We do our show out
there starting at three Woodland Bowl. It's Beer Sample Friday,
It's Jack Sample Friday, Jack Daniels a sponsoring like that,

(45:27):
and then when our show ends three hours of bowling,
there's a pizza buffet, drink tickets, prizes, there's a contest.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
I mean, there's some people to take it seriously. There's
others that are just there for a good time.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Right, there's something for everybody, and man, it's fun. Nige
and I go lane to lane and we're bs and
and having a good time with everybody.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
And human pyramids on the bowling lanes, which I'm sure
Woodland Bowl doesn't really appreciate, but sorry.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Buy your tickets right now at WIBC dot com before
it sells out. And I'm telling you, if you're looking
for like an out of the box Christmas gift idea,
the Hammer and Nigel fans in your house or the
bowling fans in your house, a couple tickets, buy him
right now and then just show up the day of

(46:20):
the event and let's have a good time together. But
tickets will sell out, so we're telling you right now
you need to hustle and get to WIBC dot com
because it's so fun. Ive had to get, you know,
driven home last year and uh, kend Rob Kendall drove
your carcass home.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Maybe I should do it again this year and streamlined
like I did with Rob kendallman duel with a random
Uber driver.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
A random Uber driver is not going to be as
patient with you.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
No, he's going to throw me out looking around for
sixty five with my phone.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
So buy your tickets before they sell out again. Awesome
Christmas gift. WIBC dot com Big News. I heard about
this from the WBC newsroom earlier, not.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
I want you to prepare yourself for this. Okay, make
sure you're sitting down.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Okay. Former Vice President Kamala Harris is coming to downtown
Indy on her book tour.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I'll talk about the worst Christmas present ever. Imagine getting
into your stocking and getting a couple of tickets to
Kamala Harris's book tour.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Oh dear lord, she's got a horrible book out there,
and she's speaking at the Old National Center Thursday, February
twenty sixth, And I believe tickets go on sale in
the next couple of days.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Would you go if you got free tickets at like
front row?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:52):
No, for drinks. I mean, I'm sure if.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
My options are staying at home and gambling on a
random Mac Conference college basketball game, We're going to watch
America's wine. Mom sign me up for action every single time.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Oh what about you? If you had front row tickets,
do you want to go? Hear that buffoon?

Speaker 3 (48:14):
No? No, no, yeah, that was actually a stupid question.
Now that I think about it, I don't know why
I even propose that.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I not at all. So if you're somebody that's thinking,
just thinking about going to this event, let's take a
trip down memory lane here with some of the best
of Kamala Harris, because this is such a thing. This
is what you're in store for on February twenty sixth,
talking about.

Speaker 13 (48:40):
The significance of the passage of time, right, the significance
of the passage of time. So when you think about it,
there is great significance to the passage of time. It
is time for us to do what we have been
doing in that time is every day? Sure, every day
it is time for us to agree. I'm here standing

(49:04):
here here Northern Flank, on the Eastern Flank talking about
what we have in terms of the Eastern Flank and
our NATO allies.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Is a country in Europe.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
It exists next.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
To another country called Russia.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Russia is a bigger country.

Speaker 12 (49:21):
Russia is a powerful country.

Speaker 13 (49:23):
Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine.

Speaker 12 (49:27):
So basically that's wrong.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
We've been to the.

Speaker 13 (49:31):
Border, and I haven't been to Europe.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
We must together.

Speaker 13 (49:37):
Worn't together to see where we are, where we are headed,
where we are going, and our vision for where we
should be, but also see it as a moment. Yes
two together address.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
The challenges based on what we be able to see.

Speaker 13 (49:53):
And because we've seen it or not doesn't mean it
hasn't happened.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
What just limited to what we have seen? Stop it.
So that's what you're in store for if you want
to buy tickets to the Kamala Harris Extravaganza February twenty
sixth at the Old National Center. Now what I'm in

(50:17):
store for, Nige. There was a big arrest in Florida.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Oh this was big.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
So eight kids from like a visiting Philadelphia area football team.
They were in town to play like a Florida teams
like travel football. They were in town for this tournaments.
But eight of the kids on the Philly team went
to Dick Sporting Goods and stole over two thousand, two
hundred dollars worth of stuff. Now what like walked into

(50:47):
the store, put it in their arms and carried it
out right, just shoplifting and they got busted. Eight kids.
Now what if I told you this Dick Sporting Goods
was a Polk County, Florida. It tells me a lot
because we know who the sheriff is in Polk County, Florida. Yeah,
Grady Judge man, friend of the show. And here he

(51:10):
is talking about these eight kids from Philly stealing two
two hundred plus dollars worth of items.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
Now, not only did they steal from forty seven items,
but ostensibly they may have calls their team the championship
and the football game.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Because I don't.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Know if these all were starters or not, but I
can tell you that we were finishers.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Boom.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
We arrested them, we took them to the Juvenile Assessment Center, good,
and we put them in lock up.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Now that's only half the story. The coach of this
Philly team was ticked off that the police in Polk
County arrested the kids.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
So when we notify the coach who is responsible for them,
you would think he would be interested in holding them
accountable and responsible. Instead, he goes to the deputies and
begs them not to take these young men into custody. Oh,
don't arrest them, drop the charges, let them go. And

(52:24):
then when we said no, then they go to Dick's
Sporting Goods to the manager and.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Said, oh, don't charge them, don't charge them.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Wow, they stole over two thousand dollars worth of products,
over forty seven different products they stole. And then when
it was evident that they were going to be arrested,
then the coach says, don't you guys have anything better
to do. You're way off base here, buddy, way off base.

(52:55):
You're the ultimate loser.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Boom.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
It's frustrating. But crime in Polk County is a fifty
three year low. Ask and see if crime in Philadelphia
is at a fifty three year low.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
I'm here for it man, me too.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, And all that coach cared about was playing in
the tournament, right, Hey, he didn't care about his kids.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Like you may have a grab and go policy in Philly,
but that how they do it down in Polk County.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
And it just tells me the coach does not care
about his players, right, just cares about his profile, his
own profile, and his win loss percentage.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You know what I want to happen in twenty twenty six.
I want Sheriff Grady Judd and fop's Rick Snyder to
team up like Batman and Robin and fight crime all
over the country, like I would fund this, I would
get some sort of go fund me. I don't know
if we need a super pack, but Grady Judd and
Rick Snyder, the New Batman and Robin let's make that happen.

(53:52):
Do it all right, Allison, I want to get you
in the mix here. Okay, I'm gonna give you some clues.
See if you can guess whose famous person's kid this is? Okay,
this is an offspring of famous people, Okay, Okay. He
has a famous musician dad, His mom is a famous

(54:15):
actress and singer. His sister is named Apple. Anything anything
moved the needle.

Speaker 14 (54:23):
Honestly, Apple is a good clue because I know that's uh,
Gwyneth Paltrow's.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yad, Gwyneth Paltrow and that ween even Coldplay?

Speaker 12 (54:32):
Ah, Chris Martin, Yes.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Here's the new song from the son of Gwyneth and Chris.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Most any more like Coldplay?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Come on prove it. I mean this is fifteen seconds in.
It sounds exactly like Chris Martin Coldplay. Can I just
start up? Can you just be even a radio Head's
like this is depressing, but it just sounds like his dad.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
You could turn that off and you know, I think
Gwyneth Paltrow had more success selling her, didn't She have
some certain scented candles.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
She had scented candles that were allegedly designed after her
lady parts. Yes, smell like her lady parts right now.
She was involved in this process. It wasn't like somebody
just did this as a joke and surprised her. No, no, no,
this is a real thing.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
It smells like it was like she walked into, you know,
a candle store.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Hey, wait a minute, hold on here, I think you
would have I think Moses, that Moses Martin, his band
is called people I've met. Maybe if Moses came up
with a candle that smelled like his crank, you can
add success.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I feel like it's a little sacrilege if you tried
to market a candle called Moses's crank, I think you
may have a few complaints from members of the church.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Nige, it's a great smelling candle.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
What is it? Moses is crank? Oh well, happy Easter.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Hammer and Nigel, do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Hammer here to the forecast there, Yeah, that forecast is
the equivalent of somebody putting on a steel toe work
boot and kicking you right in the bean back. I
just got off all the snow melted off my driveway
this morning because it was kind of warm and it
was raining, and I didn't the last time we had

(56:52):
the snow come down, I didn't have time to shovel
my driveway. I don't have abody, I don't pay anybody
to do that, so it was it was a sheet
of ice for the past week.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
So first of all, almost stop you right there. I
know you've got the time and I don't have the time.
You can get out and do it by yourself. I
didn't have anybody to come do it. Are your arms broken?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I had a shovel, I had, I just I didn't
have time ID to get here. I think it cuts
into it does not cut into my d I don't
drink in the morning.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
What time is it now?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
But but just just be prepared, Okay, I think this
is what Friday morning. Two to four inches.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Caress, thank God, And after that falls, the temperature is
just going to bottom out, so it's going to be
just icy, freezing cold. Could have wind chills in these
sub zeros. Low temperatures, regular temperature single digits down to
zero for like Saturday and Sunday again. Steel toe work,

(57:54):
boot meat, bean bag. That's what that forecast is. Now tomorrow,
it's a big day at the Indiana General Assembly. The
Senate meets, and we believe they're voting tomorrow on the
plan to change the map.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
They could move it to Friday. Redistrict thing, I believe
is what they call it.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
You guys say it. I can't because I'm an idiot.
I can't say the word redistrict king. I can.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
I'm a moron.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
But the votes tomorrow, we believe the votes tomorrow unless
something gets squirrely, something changes. And from what we're hearing
from our insider pals, the people that do this for
a living, as of today, the votes aren't there. Now.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
I'm sure a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Of deal making phone calls to be made are going
to be happening between now and tomorrow. But it sounds like, yeah,
this as of today is a no. I've heard both sides.
I mean, we had the governor in here last week
and he seemed pretty confident. True, but what's he going

(58:59):
to say? Yeah, I call the general you know, the
special session. But boy, you talk about lame ducks.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
So do you call another special session if it doesn't
go through, you pull up Texas.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, Governor Abbott did that right, Oh yeah, multiple times that.
I don't know if Braun's willing to do. I don't
think that's something he's willing to do. We're gonna ask
Tony Kennett that when he joins us here in about
twenty minutes or so. Tony Kennett from the Daily Signal,
he's been following this whole controversy from the beginning, and

(59:33):
we'll see what he thinks. If the votes aren't there,
and again that's a big if. But if they're not there,
what next. A judge has granted a Department of Justice
their request to unseal the sex trafficking records of Glaine Maxwell.
Now Knights remind everybody who this awful broad is.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Well, she was Jeffrey Epstein's right hand quote unquote man
per and probably lover that would go and procure the
underage talent before in them, groom them and bring them
to Epstein Island for billionaire clients. And nobody has paid

(01:00:14):
the price for those transgressions except the victims Glaine Maxwell
and Epstein.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Epstein, who was allegedly suicided in a jail cell depending
on who you talk to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Now, this goes along with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
The Epstein Files Transparency Act that Trump had signed, which
means that within ten days, So in theory, sometime in
the next ten days, any sort of transcript related to
Glaine Maxwell's sex trafficking case will be unsealed and rolled out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I don't think it's going to be everything, but we'll see.
Now the reason that these records are sealed in the
first place. Do with this information as you want. But
James Comey's daughter, she was the federal prosecutor, not the
defense attorney, but the prosecutor who ordered these things sealed up.

(01:01:10):
So unless she's really trying to protect the victims here,
why would the prosecution demand that that all gets sealed up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
It's going to be the excuse even though they could
redact it and still proceed with suspects and people that
were taking advantage of the underage activities going on exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
And the reason that I have questions about this, and
it's tenfoil hat worthy, the prosecution should want to pursue
other prosecutions because I promise you, if you're talking to
victims and you're talking to Glaine Maxwell, other names were
involved here? Who did she traffic these girls too?

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
I feel like it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Pretty easy connecting of the dots here if you just
unseal all of the records. But we're gonna see what
gets unsealed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
But that's what we already did. But the thing that
you mentioned with Trump, there's still you know, messing around
with this. I thought we ended this with the previous
ruling that they were already going to release everything anyway,
And now the DJ is unsealing more things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Well, that ruling says you have to do it within
ten days days. So now I guess between now and
either December twentieth or December nineteenth, we're going to find out,
hopefully a little bit more who's involved. We're going to
find out that nobody's going to prison that I believe sad.
But one this Friday, Nige we will be doing the

(01:02:34):
annual WIBC radiothon to benefit the Salvation Army.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Remember the first one you and I did. We did
it at night here in the lobby of MS Communications.
Do you remember that, Yes, we did it like from
seven to ten or eleven. I remember Rick Snyder, FOP president,
came in. Yeah, that was our first one that we did,
and then we moved it to Sullivan's after that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
So if you guys want to come by and hang
out with us this we're going to be doing the
show live at Sullivan's starting at three. Come by, you know,
talk a little smack with us, talk a little shop,
grab a beverage or two, because Pat's got an awesome
bar over there. Is what is the wine town thing?
All sold out? Alison works there too.

Speaker 14 (01:03:19):
Yes see, don't Train is all sold out, but you
can walk up and buy a beer and walk around
the store. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, is it Solivan's hardware?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Is Sullivan sullib no s no s.

Speaker 14 (01:03:33):
But we are hoosiers and I think Pat's okay with
us adding the Senate.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
That's right, Kroger's right.

Speaker 12 (01:03:40):
St Elmo's correct.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
We like to add the S.

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Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Are you really?

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Are you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:06:03):
I'm fine, I'm pretty freeing far from okay?

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Are you okay with this?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Are the hammer and idol?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
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(01:06:33):
this or Alison for that matter. A millennial therapist named Mary,
She's gone viral for asking boomers why they keep family
news a secret from their grown kids.

Speaker 12 (01:06:48):
Here she is, I'm going to play the part of
the boomer parent.

Speaker 15 (01:06:51):
Well, Graham's been on life support for the last week
and it's not looking good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
So we wanted to wait until we knew for.

Speaker 15 (01:06:57):
Sure that it wasn't looking good until we call.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:07:00):
I understand protecting your children from information that may not
be like developmentally appropriate when it comes to illness with
family members, but these.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Are adult children now.

Speaker 15 (01:07:10):
The lack of communication regarding important family health events has
not only increased their anxiety now because they don't trust
that you'll tell them, but it's resulted in a fracture
in your relationship or a breach of trust.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Does that resonate with you at all? Are you okay
with this millennial therapists saying that you know boomer parents
keeping information from their kids when it comes to health.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Look, I'm a gen xer, I'm not a boomer, but
I'll speak on behalf of the boomers here. Okay, the
millennial therapists can kick rocks here. Because each family's different,
some kids handle bad news better than others, whether they're
an adult or not. Each kid in your family handles
things better. Like I've got two awesome boys, but they're

(01:07:57):
so different they are night and day. One handles criticism
really well, the other one not so much. It kind
of freaks them out a little bit. You know, one's
more outspoken, one's more studious. Everybody's different. So I don't
want to hear this egghead millennial trying to put everybody
into one basket saying this is the right way to
do it. There's no other right way to do it
on behalf of boomers bite me. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sorry, Alison. Oh.

Speaker 14 (01:08:25):
I can relate to it a little bit, but I
don't agree with the last part of blaming them for
being upset with them. I think it's just an internal
parental thing. They want to protect their kids, even though
they're still adults. I've definitely been in the dark about
some things, but they just didn't want to worry you.

Speaker 12 (01:08:39):
So I think it comes from a place of love.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Who wants to worry your kid for this long of
a time? How old?

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
What's the cutoff point?

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Somebody in the YouTube chat writes adult children is the
biggest oxymoron of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
It's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
So yeah, I don't know, but I think it depends
on your face, It depends on your kids. And who
has this chick to say there's one right way to
do this, and if you do it, you're wrong. You're
a millennial. You don't know if there's more than two sexes.
So maybe you set this conversation out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
According to a new study, the top things that make
us comfortable on the couch blankets, and a quiet area.
On top of that, eighty six percent of Americans say
they believe in getting as comfortable and cozy as possible
in the winter. Oh my goodness, do I ever agree
with this? Are you okay with this? First of all, okaydy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
So I'm going to say no, But I'm going to
explain why I'm not okay with this because the way
this study is worded, it's so over the top. You
could have just said, do you want to be somewhere quiet? Yes?
I don't care if I got a blanket. I don't
care if I got a pillow. I don't care if
I'm on a couch. I don't care if I'm on
the floor, pasted out, drunk. Sometimes I just want to

(01:09:58):
be by myself. Somewhere quiet. The fact that I might
have a pillow, it's a bonus. But I've done some
of my best napping without a pillow or a blanket.
Oh man, I got to sit on the couch. I've
got it. It's got to be just right. I've got
the automan, I've.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Got the Lola blanket over me. I've got to have
a pillow. I've got to have a couch pillow on
my lap, and I've got to have one on each
side of my arm.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
I'm gonna raise my hand.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
So and then i can reach over for my drink
to the on the side of the table.

Speaker 15 (01:10:24):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I see you sleep in your office all the time
while I'm working, and there's no pillow, there's no blanket.
You're just sitting there with your head tilted back. So
I know you can do it without these things, usually
a hoodie. Right, And so can you make it look
like you're doing work when you're watching Pat McAfee asleep
at your desk?

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Right, Okay, I'm just going.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
To point that out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I've got to bring couch pillows into work with be though.
That's a telltale sign.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
You're for sure sleeping in there, right, And Plus knowing
this place, somebody would steal your pillows and I promise
you you don't want them back anybody. But how do
you get cozy on the couch? Allison? Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:11:00):
I love a blank I love two blankets, to be honest.
One for my lap because I usually have one of
my dogs on my lap, and then I'll put like
one over my shoulders like an old lady.

Speaker 12 (01:11:09):
Make sure going.

Speaker 14 (01:11:11):
Oh oh yeah, because I get cold easily, and I
like we're in a big hoodie.

Speaker 12 (01:11:17):
Uh yeah. I love being comfortable.

Speaker 14 (01:11:19):
I don't know the twenty three percent who don't like
being quiet or in a comfortable spot.

Speaker 12 (01:11:26):
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
All right, real quick here, I got one more for you. Ready,
do it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
David Spade comedian hilarious Allison saw him in concerts this year.

Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Yes, my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
David Spade told podcast partner Dana Carvey this week about
something he saw at a local mall.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I saw the other day.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
There was a tree lighting ceremony for the Christmas tree
in some dopey mall. I don't know, yeah, but it
said tree lighting ceremony and they were careful not to
say the word Christmas during the whole ceremony.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Why why can't So it's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Just a with Spade is a quiet, closet conservative. You
can tell there's a group of those dudes out in
Hollywood and they think it's like Sandler's ring Kevin James
and Rob Schneider East Quiet. Yeah, he's pretty out there,
But the people that hang out with him, I find

(01:12:18):
it hard to believe they would be super over the
top libs and also put up with Rob Schneider. So
there's that group of Sandlerites that, for the most part
are closet, quiet conservatives. I think Spade falls into that
category and I agree with him here So.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Hereim a Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel. That
is Jason Hammer right over there with a very special
guest on the hotline.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Signal. He is
the host of the Tony Kennett Cast, and he was
the stunt double in the movie Elf Ladies and Gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Tony Kennett joins us, how are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
You, my friend? I mean sitting on a throne of
lies and smelling of beef and cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I suppose, hey man, this time tomorrow, a couple big
things may be happening. Nige and I may be in
a new studio and we may be talking about the
results of the Senate vote, the changing of the congressional
map here in Indiana. What say you, what do you
think we're at with this thing?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Well, I'd say, first of all, I switched studios before
it was cool, so glad you guys are getting up
to the times. A second of all, regarding the redistricting,
I hope that it happens. I'm skeptical that it will
because again you still have gene Lysing, who, like a
crazy Alzheimer written old woman.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Is going they contacted my grandson, and of course that's
not true, but she's still clinging to that because you know, senile,
who is Perman?

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Who's gene State Senator gene Lysing. I used to page
for her back when I was in high school. So
she's been in the state Senate a while, and she's
voting no on redistricting because and I kid you not,
someone sent out a mass text that included her grand
and son. She thinks it was personal, even though that's
not how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
It kind of feels like they're reaching for the bottom
of the barrel on excuses here, like when Bohatchick came
out and said, well, I don't like the way Donald
Trump called Tim Walls that name. So for that reason,
I'm out on something that's going to happen in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Which is even funnier because when you consider that his
child isn't actually on the spectrum called retarded, the actual
word used there, it's like grasping its straws in a
totally different area. It's embarrassing. So again I'm skeptical. If
they're able to scrounge the boats, it's going to be close.
Now again, I have yet to hear a good reason
as to why we shouldn't. So far, the answers i've

(01:14:42):
heard are it's the timing, which it's not a period.
It's like a major redistricting. Guys come on like relax.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
So one thing else, What happens Tony.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
If this thing goes the way we think it's going
to and it does not pass through the Senate tomorrow,
is this thing dead? Is this thing done? What happens
at a national level? Are we going to hear any
more from Turning Point USA or any of these national packs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
So, first of all, it will have a really rough
time doing anything like getting back into the House or
the Senate if it doesn't pass. Greg Abbott of Texas
had the stones to say, you get back here and
pass it, and he through like five special sessions in
before they got school choice or redistricting. Is Mike Brown
going to get out there and do that. No, I
don't think he's going to do that now. I don't

(01:15:29):
really care one way or the other whether or not
I think they should force the state senators to work
for a living, you know, kind of a crazy concept,
and it really is wearing down their morale. That is
the biggest thing I think you'll see a lot of
these state senators are no longer running for reelection because
no one likes them. The Democrats don't like them, the
Republicans don't like them, and it's because they're unlikable. Kyle Walker,

(01:15:51):
in his state Senate seat, has flipped off more people
by not listening to them in his own district. Then
mister Bean traveling through the United States these people in
the passenger seat, So I mean, I don't feel bad
for him. Is that the ends nationally well, that actually
could make or break the House. So boy, I sure
can't wait for a debt screeching off for two years

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it be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
I here's my other question though, and I do want
redistricting to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Say the Senate pulls off a miracle and it does
happen and they do redraw the maps, is there any
guarantee that those two blue seats are going to flip
come election time?

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
No? In fact, here's the funny thing. By cutting up
Marion County and removing the racial districts currently in place,
and by the way, look at the history of the map,
they're already unjerrymandering Mariyon County anyway, so get over it.
But the last in this case, it moderates like four
or five very hard leaning Republican districts. It waters them down.

(01:16:54):
Democrats will have more of a shot to get a
majority of the congressional seats in Indiana than they umber
will have had in the last forty years. So as
far as the moaning and the whining and complaining, if
supposedly they have enough gumption to pretend that Jennifer McCormick
is totally going to win the governor's race, well then

(01:17:14):
why can't you get it together with more Democrats in
a leaning red district and pull it off. Are you
just admitting you suck that bad?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
One last thing on this before we move on to
some national stuff here. One of the things I keep
hearing is if this doesn't happen, we're going to primary
all those Rhino Republicans. But Tony, the problem is, like
the head of the beast here is Rod Bray, and
this dude isn't up for election for another couple of years,
like two years down the road. Here, three years down

(01:17:43):
the road. Is anybody going to remember how angry they
are right now as a reason to primary him?

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
So let's take a look at Rod Bray's list of accomplishments. Okay,
thanks for that, Dan. He doesn't have anything really that
makes him likable to the Republican Party in the state.
He's just mad and he's made that his personality. It's
really strange, and he thinks that the inside of the
So the populace have found this out as well. If

(01:18:12):
you think that the Indiana Republican Convention is real life
and the rest of the state, you're stupid. That's not
how it works. And he's going to learn that lesson
because he hasn't provided anything for Indiana and your.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Require here much like your studio. I hated Rod Bray
before it was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
That is rather true back in our WTCHR dumpster diving days,
as they say.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Tony kennittt with this investigative reporter for the Daily Signal,
host of the Tony Kennett Cast seven o'clock right after
our show here at WIBC, let's pivot to some national
issues here. It seems like Donald Trump is going on
the offensive here about the quote affordability crisis. So let
me ask you this first. Is there an affordability crisis

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for Donald Trump right now?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
For Donald Trump himself? Yes? Is an affordability crisis that
Donald Trump caused? No, If you don't like that, I'm sorry.
The data shows that Trump has done quite a bit
to deregulate major aspects of the economy that have brought
a lot of prices down. The housing crisis, I'm sorry.
That ain't Trump's fault. He's tried to deregulate housing, and
you have Bernie Sanders going a couple doesn't control the

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buildings are being built of, builds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Plums pretty good again, He'll have it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
In two fancy mansions, but had that kind of affordability
cross that's you know that's not Trump's fault. He's working
to vix it. I don't know, it's kind of the
ownership is a little bit of a twist.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Year.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
I feel like in Haymer, I'll let you finish the
other part of that question, but like, I feel like
the word affordability has turned into this buzzword that's only
appeared over the past year year and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Am I crazy about that?

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
It is something that millennials and gen z have used
to describe how annoyed they are. Yes, we're caut told
by the older generation, Ah, your kids should be like me.
I was in a factory and I bought a home
with two wooden Nichols and I was fine. And that's
not the way the economy works anymore. And by the way,
that is a problem. The idea of getting new people

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to join the right means that you have to go,
why Taggergers do what I did? Well? We didn't just
win the Cold War like when you were a kid. Grandpa.
Doesn't work like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
But Toty, let me say the other side of this here,
is this a self induced wound by Donald Trump because
he was the one that campaigned there's gonna be so
much winning, You're gonna crap your pants. The tariffs are
gonna bring everybody so much money. I'm gonna be passing
out thousands of dollars like I'm the Joker in the
nineteen eighty nine Batman movie, Like he promised all of

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this kind.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Of stuff, and here we are. It's the holiday season.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I mean, gas, I guess is down a little bit,
but if you ask people who do the grocery shopping,
if you ask people who've gone out to stores to
go shopping, it's still pretty damn expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Correct, And this is again an issue for the Trump
administration and the commside. And I've said this before. There
are a lot of people that are running around right
now going see all of the tariffs are working. And again,
when you look at consumer sentiment when it comes to
the grocery level, there are a lot of people who
still aren't convinced prices are on their way down. Yes,
are they whre voters want them? No? Now, this is

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a good news Trumpston kind of reverse cats twenty two.
If the Supreme Court smacks down a bunch of the tariffs,
which they're probably going to, then the economy rockets forward
like a kid who just had three cups to Joe.
If they don't, then the economy recognizes the tariffs are
here to stay. It adjusts, and then with the deregulation
things rocket forward, albeit probably not as much. He does

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end up with a pretty powerful twenty twenty six. It's
just not here yet, will.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I will say people that are complaining about the tariffs
and the prices of goods and affordability. There is this
element that you know, he's only been in office a year,
so yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
You onomy, his own campaign administration has said we own
it at this point. I mean, you can't do remember,
right in the first year of Trump's administration, the Democrats
were still trying to claim all of Trump's successes were
because of Obama. So we can't play the end ring
around the rosie here. He does own it at some point.
Now he has a big mestic cleanup for sure. But yeah,

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some of his policies have contributed to grocery store prices.
That's why they cut the banana tariffs and the coffee tariffs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Tony, which of these things are you more excited for
as somebody with a nightly program. Jasmine Crockett's Senate run
or two more years of Jimmy Kimmel on ABC.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Well, I would have to start watching Jimmy Kimmel on
ABC in order to have, you know, mine of an
opinion there. Jasmin Crocketts endless entertainment. I mean, Ben Shapiro's
got AOC. You know you've got ilhan Omar for Bennie Johnson,
I have Jasmine Crockett, and boy, when the Tyler Perry
producers make fun of how awful you are at stuff?

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With that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
One more thing here before we let you go. You
sent me a message today about this DOJ Civil Rights
Division decision. This is coming from a har Meet Dylan
friend of the program. We've had her on the show
a couple different times. Walk me through what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
So the DOJ is ending a practice that has screwed
over millions of people essentially for years, when the Department
of Justice would rule on a discrimination case, they would
look at this thing called disparate impacts, which means they
would say, okay, how many people feel that the person
was rarist, and then they would count the numb hands
raised and go, oh, well, then it must be racist.

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Then they're ending that crap Just because you go to
the DMV and you hated your experience does not mean
you were racially discriminated against. It just means the DMV sucks.
So what the DJ is now doing is saying, look,
you think you are discriminated against, prove it you were, well,
I feel it was racist. Is no longer enough. You

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need to prove it. And that's a very very big
deal because people's lives have been ruined over this. Remember
the cake baker in Colorado they harassed continually because he
wouldn't bake the gay cake. That era is coming to
an end, thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I think har Meek Dylan does a great job. Like
we've been pretty critical of some of the people in
leadership positions with the DOJ, you know, Cash Battel, maybe
he's been underwhelming, maybe he hasn't been Pam Bondy, same thing.
But it feels like you could always count on har
Meat Dylan to get stuff done.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Harmon Dylan was the very first person to reach out
to me amid the Indianapolis Public schools scandal and said,
and I quote hit them in the knees with a
baseball bat, And I did you know that's the mentor
encouragement right there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Hey, real quick, just we got about ninety seconds here,
a little bit less. Your take on the conservative infighting
on social media, whether it be some of the conservative
name you can think of, It seems like there's some
infighting going on right now. I'd like to get your
take on that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
For everyone who's not habitually on Twitter, it's not happening.
It's really overblown. Yeah, the polling doesn't show it. And
I'm sorry, Nick Fointday's in Candace. I have caught them
repeatedly using tens of thousands of online bots. So yeah,
all right, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
In terms of like their followers and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Stuff, oh, followers, common engagement, viewer engagement, half of Candace
podcast audiences from Africa. Sorry, just the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Hey man, there's a chance you could be Indianapolis Radio
history tonight. This may be our last day in this building, Tony,
and even though you're not physically in the building, your
show would be the last one that airs before we
officially switch over to the new radio station building. I
don't know, I'm a radio nerd. I think that's kind

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of neat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
What do you think I think that I may have
already stolen Mike pincer's chair and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
No, no, I've hidden it. There's no way I hid
that thing in my office. It's coming with me, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Congrats guys, congrats on the move.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
What's coming up tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Oh tonight, we're making fun of Obamacare and we're bringing
on one of these people who's gonna totally replace it
to freaking explain themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Tony Kennett Cast seven o'clock right after our show ninety
three WIBC Tonas.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
We'll talk next week.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Brother, You guys are the best.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.