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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Now it is the Hammer and Nigel show running it
back today is the Hammer and Hammer Shows. Big Nige
is out and Chris Hammer filling in for Big Nige.
How's it going now, Chris, You've got a lot of responsibilities.
When you fill in for Nigel. You have to do

(00:28):
very little. You have to sleep on the job and
then take about five to six weeks off after two days.
Do you think you can pull that?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I already feel like I'm pulling more weight just by
being in the building in the first place. So right,
think I'm filling the Niger role a little bit better?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right now? Shots fired from the boy. All right, I
think we're ready. I don't think we have to wait anymore.
Produce a Kurt hit me with some legal stuff, crime punishment, judges,
legal stuff. Going to keep it here an ending. So

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you guys remember Gabe Whitley, right, honest, Gabe, honest, Gabe,
that little portly you know what that is? A convicted
felon a failed seventh District congressional candidate. Because correct me
if I'm wrong, he lost to a dead woman. That
is correct? Yes, he went to federal prison for lying

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about his quote unquote donors. It's pretty much universally believed.
He's got these fake accounts all over social media. And
the thing that used to drive me nuts, Chris, people
would fall for some of these fake accounts. The Hoosier Inquirer, Well,
they're reporting this, they're reporting that. No, the Hoosier Inquirer

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is Gabe Whitley in one of his aliases, sitting somewhere
in a basement eating cheetos and not being thin. That's
what the Hoosier Inquirer was.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
There's so many of those accounts out there on social
media that you can just tell ran by either the
person themselves or it's one of their biggest supporters, and
it's just just blatant lies that come out there, and
they present themselves as this like honest news site, and
then you read it and there's like several spelling errors
in their article and you're like, all right, sure, And.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's frustrating when somebody you like or you view in
high regard share some of that crap, right, Like, I'll
come on, what do you get doing you're sharing the
Hoosier Inquirer stop it? Well, anyway, that's Gabe Whitley. Earlier
today he pled guilty to a level six felony intimidation charge.

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Now this was filed by our very own Abdul. Now,
if you remember, Gabe Whitley hated Abdul with the passion
of a million fires, and he put some posts out
on social media referencing shooting him like a pig. He
put Abdul's home address out there, I believe, calls for

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law enforcement to raid Abdul's home. You can read all
about it in the court filings, the police report, and
Abdul's posted about this today at Indie Politics. But today, honest,
Gabe pled guilty to that level six felony from all
the threats to Abdul. And here's the kicker, he can't

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go on social media. Judge Linda Brown accepted the plea
and Gabe Whitley is expected to be released from custody
later today. And as a results of the plea and
the sentence imposed no online platforms and a no contact
order with Abdul and his family.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's interesting. I'm thinking about this. How are they going
to enforce this no social media stuff? Like if he's
if he's creating fake accounts. Is there like something that
they could put on his phone to know when he's
opened up Instagram or whatever Twitter is called now X, Like,
how is that going to be enforced? Is what I'm
curious to learn about.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Right, there's a lot of rules and laws to get
put into place, but they're never enforced, like the no
turn on reds here downtown right right? Okay, great, I
appreciate what you're trying to do, but nobody abides by
that sign. No, nobody does. He does, And you're right,
Gabe Whitley, who's already got a ton what we believe

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to be a ton of alias accounts out there. I
asked the Abduel, do you honestly believe that he's not
going to have any sort of burner account or is
he going to try to be slick and pull a
fast one and find some way to get online? Abduels
under the belief and maybe he's hurt something that we

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don't have access to because he's involved here, he's under
the belief that it's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Another question of mine, has it says he can't go
on social media? Is there any like claus in here
that says he can't tell someone else to post on
social medium for him.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's not on there. I think you start getting into
some violations of First Amendment there, But listen for what
it's worth. It sounds like the Hoosier Inquirer will not
be posting anytime soon. And that was my favorite thing
when he was getting ready to go to federal you
know what prison. The first time around the board, he

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told everybody, Oh, the Hoosier Inquirer, they're going to be
posting all the time crickets since he got locked up crickets.
And now, according to this judge's ruling, he's not allowed
to have any sort of online platform. We'll see how
that goes. More legal stuff here, some moron tried to

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climb up the monument on Christmas Eve. Now, Chris, I
know you were working a little bit. I can't remember
if you were downtown because you also work on our
promotions team. Here. Did you see the idiot climbing the monument?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I did not work Christmas Eve. I worked the day before. Unfocunately,
I drive by the monument all the time, and I
was reading this story. How do he climb up on
the monument? On monuments, there's not really a lot of
ways to climb up in it's like a straight up
tall building.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
We saw some of these numb nuts do that during
the mostly peaceful riots that were taking place downtown. There
was somebody up there climbing up riding graffiti. But this
guy climbed up there to the point to where police
and rescue squads, first responders had to come. And at
this point there was a crowd that was around two

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So imagine it's Christmas Eve, you're downtown, you're hearing the
Christmas music. Maybe you're going to watch one of these shows,
you know, Yule Tide or something like that, right, and
then you see a moron climbing up the monument about
the fall. So let's be honest, raise your hand if
you see a moron that's doing that, raise your hand

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if you're rooting for him to fall. All right, Kurt's
hands up, Chris hands up. My hand is up. I
think that's a frush. I believe if.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Way stupid games, you win, stupid pre I mean, that's
what we got going on here. Don't climb up the monument.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
And this dude was just whacked out. Once they got
him on the ground, he was taken into custody. On
his person, they found a Manila envelope containing a plant
like substance, a flat metal screwdriver, broken glass fragments, material
used for a tourniquit, a glass vial, one empty pen

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cartridge which commonly used for drug use. I believe folded
card consistent with the way narcotics are prepared. So this
guy was like Charlie Sheen in his prime, climbing up
the monument, was hanging on by like a hand. It
was almost like the promo poster for Cliffhanger with stallone,

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and luckily the authorities were able to get him down
without too much of an incident. But Druggy mcdrug face
is now facing multiple charges here, including one count of
cocaine possession, which in itself is a level six felony.
We mentioned this yesterday. This is exciting and we owe
you guys a lot of thank yous. Our charity bowling event,

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Red White and Bowl presented by Jack Daniels on Friday,
January sixteenth, sold out, Baby sold out. We're gonna have
some competitive bowlers, Chris, I think you fall into that category.
We're gonna have some people just there to drink the
beer and eat the pizza. I think I fall into
that category. And a little birdie told me that next

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week we may have your last chance at some tickets.
It's sold out now. Everything we do sells out, by
the way. You guys are awesome, the best listeners in
all of radio. We sell out everything we do, and
it's usually pretty quick because you guys are such badasses.

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We're gonna raise a lot of money for who's your
veterans in need. We're gonna drink some beer, We're gonna bowl,
We're gonna have some pizza. We're gonna give away some prizes.
And if you did not get your ticket next week again,
can't confirm officially, but a little birdie told me there
may be some last minute tickets. So thank you so
much for selling out. Another awesome event from The Hammer

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and Nigel Show. Matt Bear is standing by Matt. I
know a lot of people still on vacations of the
roads don't seem as busy. Is that the case you would?
Listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. It's New Year's
Eve Eve Here on the Hammer in Nigel Show, I'm

(09:39):
Jason Hammer, Big Nige's Out. Chris Hammer is filling in
going and in studio from the WIBC newsroom, John Att
Cruzhot we were talking during the break here. In addition
to being an amazing multifaceted journalist here at WIBC, you
teach like a hip hop dance class. Yes.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I used to professionally dance basically my entire life. And
I went on tour with multiple groups and did all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Did you go on tour with name names?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Oh gosh, I'm it's gonna date me.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm older than you are. Don't give me that crap.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Okay, do you know who Black Street is?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
No Diggitydy?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, I went on tour with Do.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I know who Black Street is? Teddy Riley? Come on, yes,
I was.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I was eighteen nineteen. It was before social media, before
we had the cell phones. I don't have anything from
my time being their backup dancer, but I went on
tour with them for Buddy Or and Haw.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So when you're like at a wedding and somebody puts
on no Diggity now, do you feel like, Okay, it's PTSD,
It's game time. I gotta go out there and foot
on the show.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Literally, don't remember what I even danced to a boat.
Then no clue, solli blur.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So yesterday we did the biggest stories in Indiana for
twenty twenty five. Today I challenged you to find the
biggest stories in all of America for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yes, I have to tell you I have had a
little bit of a hard time. There's so many things
that happened this year. Once I started kind of backtracking
and seeing all the big news that happened throughout the
United States, I was like, oh my gosh, how am
I gonna like whittle all this down to five? So
again I went a chronological order, and of course we
had to start with the inauguration of President Trump.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Okay, so we're going chronological order here. These aren't like
your one through five rank, this is chronological chronological.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
So I started in January. So January. Here we are
January twentieth, as he was sworn in as a forty
seventh president of the United States, and I thought that
was obviously a really big deal considering where we were
the past few years, and that was a major change.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
And it seemed like the inauguration went a little smoother
than his first one. You had like some actual bands
that wanted to perform. You didn't have Sean Spicer up
there going it was the biggest gathering in the history
of humanity. Like it seemed like it went a little smoother.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yes, absolutely, And then we fast forward to March, where
I think things started to get a little dicey when
it came to the topic of immigration. I think March
is when it really first started to hit, and that's
when the whole SALVADORI in prison came up. And then
I still really started to hammer in on lots of
deportations and all that. And I actually just recently looked

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at the Homeland Security website and as of September they
have deported two million people or have self deported in total.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
The self deportations are amazing to me. So you've got
a group of people here saying, all right, if it
means I'm going to have a chance to maybe come back, yes,
I will do it the right way here. I think
that's fascinating. I think that's the goal. This is what
you're looking for, right.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Absolutely, Yes, So I think that was a big deal,
and honestly, I think it still carries over because even
now I think some of that immigration stuff is carrying
over through everything that's happening in Minnesota with the whole
fraud happening there. So then we went through March, and
then here we go with May and we have the
fourteenth Pope, Pope Leo, an American poet, an American pope
from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
The big deal is a White Sox. I knew Chris
was gonna go there. I'm not gonna get behind.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
This guy, right's get there. The only person that could
fix the White Sox is the Lord, so they're gonna
need all the help they can get over.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
There, right right. That's something because if you go back
and watch like video of the White Sox World Series
run from a number of years ago, one of the
shots shows him in the crowd, like the Pope was there.
Divine Intervention was on the South side of Chicago. I
just hope he doesn't park the popemobile down there because
somebody's gonna steal it or it'll be on blocks by

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the time he gets out there to see it again.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Right, So yeah, I thought that was a big deal.
Especially in the newsroom. We were just getting like play
by play of everything happening with him. When that was
all happening and then obviously I want to fast forward.
This is a number four heading into September Charlie Kirk's assassination,
which just completely I felt like the world just literally stopped.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
This was what it sounded like on our program. This
is the audio of when we made the official announcement
that Charlie had Now we had been getting tips for
about fifteen minutes from unverified sources. He's dead. He's passed away. No,
he's on life support. As you know, John at there's
so much up, much coming in, and a lot of

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it's wrong when stories break right out of the gate,
So you got to be right. You have to nail it.
And we found out when President Trump put something on
social media and this was from the Hammer and Nigel
Show that day. Nige, we had been seeing drips and
drabs of information coming to us the last thirty so minutes.

(14:33):
We wanted to make sure we had a reliable source here.
I feel like this is about as good as you're
going to get. President Trump writes on truth Social quote,
the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. No
one understood or had the heart of the youth in
the United States of America better than Charlie. He was

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loved and admired by all, especially me, and now he's
no longer with us. Malania and my sympathies go out
to his beautiful wife Erica and family. Charlie, we love you.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
The shooter is still at large.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And that was live coverage from when we saw the
post by President Trump announcing the death of Charlie Kirk.
And at the time, like Nigel points out, we didn't
know who the shooter was. Somebody had been taken into
custody and pictures were taken, but it wasn't the guy.
And now we know that the suspect, Tyler Robinson, would
be found a couple days later.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, it was just a crazy time, as you know,
like we were in the newsroom just like floored and
then again just getting all the information in and kind
of like you're in this space of like, is this
really happening right now?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I think everybody remembers where they were when they saw
or first heard about this story. I was at you
INDI I just got done with the class. I was
working on a project, and the way I found out
about it is all the videos of it that were
being shared on Twitter that were just disturbing and very disturbing.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
And you know, my son, he's going to be sixteen
this weekend, and he saw it at school and at
the time did not have a phone.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
But yeah, there are some very up close shots that
just break your heart. I feel like that's probably the
biggest story of twenty twenty five. But what else do
you have that rounds out your list?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's one rounds out. I just I think this towards
the end of the year with elections coming on, just everything,
the lovely mayor elect over in New York City, Zoron Mondomi. Yeah,
I mean that's a I think that's a big deal.
A Democrat who is a socialist is completely turning what
politics are going to look like in New York City.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah. It's going to be an experiment for sure. Absolutely.
You know it's never worked anywhere else. Now, any socialists
will tell you, well, I do a different type of socialism. Okay,
it's never worked anywhere else, but you do you we'll
find out a socialists.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Nobody in the history of humanity has ever done socialism correct, apparently,
is what I'm being learning from these people.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
It's not that it fails all the time, nobody's done.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
It, done it correctly.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Excellent, interesting, Johnette. Tomorrow we will be talking about celebrity
deaths and the biggest pop culture entertainment stories of twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
That'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
If somebody wants to follow you on social media or
challenge you to a hip hop dance contest, how can
they find you?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
All my handles is just the John atte Cruz. I'm
everywhere on social media. Come find me and connect with me.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Who would be better in your dance class? Chris Hammer,
who is twenty one years old, but he's like a
fifty year old or me.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I don't know, he's like a fifty year old.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh, he's the oldest twenty one year old you've ever
seen in your life.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I am horrible at dancing. You do not want to.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
I have to say, you have a couple of shots
at tequila and you'll do perfect.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'll be like Elaine out there doing the little kicks. Johnette,
thank you your It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
You're listening to the actual show.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
More broad investigation in Minnesota. You may have heard our
news anchor John ET's cruise talking about this a little
bit earlier. Fed's continuing their work in Minnesota trying to
get to the bottom of this massive and the word massive,
I don't even think does this justice when you're talking

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about up to billions of dollars Chris Right, massive fraud.
Now you knew two things were going to happen here.
Number One, Governor old balls Tim Walls is going to
do everything in his power to stay in power. There
are people wanting him to resign and disgrace over this,

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But since when does disgrace ever bother Tim Walls? He's
not going anywhere a Democrats corruption I'm shocked, shocked, I say,
and you knew certain factions of the national news media
would try to make this sound like it's not that
of a deal. Oh, what's a couple billion dollars between

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friends and taxpayers? Which brings us to CNN, CNN Newsnight
and their host Abby Phillip, who I've made the claim
since Don Lemon Don Lemon was unceremoniously canned at CNN,
Abby has taken the torch of the dumbest person on
television because you got to remember, Joy Reid doesn't have

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a gig anymore. Don doesn't have a televised gig anymore.
I think it's abby, I really do. I think she
has taken that moniker. She doesn't feel like it's that
big of a deal. And look, just because conservatives are
finding out there's millions and billions of dollars in fraud

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taking place and have been for a long time, doesn't
mean it's some sort of cover up.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
The idea that this has not been investigated is completely bunk.
That is not true. It not only has it been reported,
it is being investigated, as the Trump DOJ is actually
trying to point out tonight. So just because conservatives are
finding out about something for the first time doesn't make
it new and doesn't make it some kind of cover up.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh just because you're finding out billions of dollars have
been screwed for the taxpayers. Oh, there's no cover up.
This is just your every average, everyday billion dollar.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Scale, like every state happens. I mean what, I'll be
curious what would her stance on it. But she still
had this same stance if this was let's say Florida
or Texas that this was happening in, you think she
would still have this same stance that it's not that
big of a deal.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh, she would want DeSantis to resign in disgrace. They
would have like mobile trucks outside of DeSantis's house, or
down in Texas, outside of Governor Abbott's house. You'd have
aoc down there, Jasmine Crockett calling him hot wheels, doing
all types of ridiculous things. You're absolutely right, that's a
great point. I promise you. The dumbest woman on television,

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Abby Phillip, would feel a little differently if it were
a red state. But here's the thing, Chris, we can't
be naive about this. This type of thing is probably
happening in every state.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I know Governor Brown has been coming out saying, hey,
we're cracking down, we're looking for this. Better not do
it in Indiana. But you know this is happening elsewhere.
Oh yeah, California, New York, even maybe the flyover states.
I mean, this was happening in Minnesota. Now, granted it's
a bit of a liberal zoo up there. When you
look at who there ag is, Keith Ellison, and then

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you get into your mayor, that little weenie Jacob Fry,
and now look who your governor is, old balls Tim Walls.
I mean, it's like the canteena scene and Star Wars
up in Minnesota. These are the freaks we're dealing with,
but it's happening everywhere.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh yeah, I mean, really, you mean to tell me
that the government is no Our government wouldn't do that
to us, would they?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Again my shocked face. Speaking of CNN, I think the
only reason to watch that network is when Scott Jennings
comes in again. Scott Jennings comes in there and it's
almost like in Major League where Ricky Vaughn comes out
of the bullpen and wild things blaring in the background
because he knows he's walking into the jungle. It's going

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to be a panel of about five people and they're
all going to agree with each other, and he's going
to be the one true conservative. And listen, I will
give CNN this and Nige and I mentioned this quite often.
When MSNBC wants to bring on a Republican, who do
they bring on. They bring on Liz Cheney, they bring
on Kenzinger, they bring on, you know, Megan McCain. They

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don't bring on somebody that has Trump ideals, right, they don't.
You look at CNN.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I think they realize, Hey, we got to do something
to get people to start watching again. I mean MSNBC,
they're ratings. They're not even called MSNBC anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Right, they went ms now it'll be MSNBC. To me,
it's still Deer Creek and it's still MSNB.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
And it's just a move that they're doing described to say, hey,
look this is a new thing.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
No it's not.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
You're still the same old MSNBC. You've always been. At
least a scene in his credit, they realize their product
sucks and at least they're trying to change.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It reminds me of that scene in Tommy Boy where
they put the guaranteed sticker on the box, but all
you're really getting is a guaranteed piece of Well. I
think you guys know how that goes. But Scott Jennings
went off on liberal commentator Emma Viglin after she claimed
that Israel invaded Gaza just like Russia did Ukraine.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
Israel's are ally not a single word in your speech
for the Etruscan shouldn't be that we're committed. On October
the seventh, we got a single word, not a single
word for the idea that Israel has every right to
defend itself. Not a single word for the fact that
Hamas right now is killing people inside of God, their
own people. You seem to lay it all at the
feet of Israel's a democratic ally in your own country,

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and you have no negative war for the terrorists who
raped and murdered and kidneys zero.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
That's sell them.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Israeli Human Rights Group says, there.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
You still don Scott Jennings is so good, so good
at what he does.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I love seeing like the reaction from these guys when
someone actually tries to fight them on They just sit
there with that same stupid, shocked look on their face
that someone's actually talking back to them. They sit there
almost like offended that someone would even think to say
that against them, because for years they've had no opposition
on this panel's just been them agreeing with each other.
Now they got to actually defend their claims, which Shaker,
are pretty stupid.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Now, this commentator that Jennings was going toe to toe
with Emma, she's a little younger, And this is something
that I've noticed with like your generation, Chris, again, you're
twenty one. There's a lot of people your age that
feel like they want to talk politics, but they don't
really know what they're talking about. There's a lot lot

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of people that feel like Hamas are the innocent victims
in this whole Israeli thing because again not picking on you,
but your generation. We had the story yesterday. You get
a lot of your news from TikTok, get it more
from TikTok than you do YouTube or Facebook or anywhere else.
And the chances are if you're getting it from Chinese

(25:21):
ran TikTok, it's probably not going to be something that's
very pro American. No, And that's exactly what I was
going to say. I mean, no disrespect.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I think my generation's quite frankly stupid some of the
stuff we say out here. And they get their news
from TikTok. They get their news from these people that
have no idea what they're talking about whatsoever, and they act.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Like it's legitimate claims.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
And then they go out and act like they know
everything about the world and how the world works because
random Johnny over here said so on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right, And like on your college campus you'll see gays
for Palestine, and I know, with every fiber of your
being you want to go up to these people and
say that's like chickens for KFC. R Are you serious?
Can we talk? Do you even understand what would happen
if you went over there with the sign that you
have right now? Like you have to see this crap

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a lot, right, Even like.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Some professors that I can tell there that are on
the left leaning spectrum even think they think that was stupid.
That was the exact quote that one of them said.
He's like, you know, I bet I get that this
is a complicated topic, but saying gays for Palestine is
like saying, well, chickens for KFC, You're supporting the people
that want to kill you.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
That's stupid. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show coming up
a little bit later on Caller Roulette for the first
time in the new studio. We'll do a little Caller
Roulette later on, and also as we get closer and
closer to a new year, we've been looking back at
twenty twenty five and I've tasked Chris with taking a

(26:48):
look at the biggest sports stories in Indiana. So that's
coming up a little bit later on. And speaking of sports,
I want your thoughts on this, Chris Yep, once again,
Hall of Fame fists for the NFL Hall of Fame
in Canton, Ohio, they announced the list of finalists. Reggie
Wayne back on the list, Adam Vani back on the list.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Good, that's awesome, Adam and Terry should have been in
the Hall of Fame last year. I mean, if you're
gonna put kickers in the Hall of Fame, he's the
goat of kickers.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
He's the greatest kicker of all time.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right, And it's ridiculous that he was not a first
ballot Hall of Famer last year.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's absolutely ridiculous. It's a position on the field, right,
and he has had some of the biggest moments of
anybody game, winning Super Bowl kicks, won a Super Bowl
for two different teams, one of the most money clutch
dudes of all time. Right, And you're right. I get
quarterbacks and receivers and running backs get all the attention,

(27:44):
all right, Fine, but a kicker is a position on
the field, and if you're going to put some in
the Hall of Fame, he should have been a first ballot, right.
And Reggie Wayne on here is.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
I believe this is what the seventh year in a
row that he's on there, and I hope he gets in.
I think he deserves it. But he's been up against
some pretty good classes in the past.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But it's tough for receivers unless you're like a generational
Garvin Johnson Larry Fitzgerald type, it's tough. They usually make
those receivers wait for a little while. So again, crossing
our fingers, I think they both belong But Adam Vinteri
especially right the greatest kicker in the history of the NFL.

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Dateline British Columbia, Canada. There was an arms standoff outside
of a house and the FEDS were there, the SWAT
team was there, and then some towny showed up wearing
a Batman costume and was trying to help the SWAT
team and walked up to the officers. Now they told

(28:47):
him this is a crime scene. You need to get
the hell out of here. But Batman didn't go anywhere.
Batman doesn't listen to the rules, right, No, no, he
does not. Ultimately, the standoff ended peacefully. Maybe that's because
you saw Batman outside. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Hey, if I'm going to standoff and I see Batman outside,
I'm giving it up. I'm not taking my chances with Batman.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
It's going to peacefully end. When I see a dude
standing out there with like the hard ass fed dudes
who are all in their walkie talkies and they're blaring
the music and they got the speakers. There's the big
armored vehicle and here's some fat dude dressed up like
Batman with his hands on his hip. Can I help? Oh,
it's so good. It reminds me of when we were

(29:32):
down on the Circle, when we were at the other
building and gen Con was going on, and this was
when the Ferguson riots had happened. This is like early
on in the hammer In Nigel Show Afternoon Run, the
Ferguson riots had taken place, and the lie that came
out of there was hands up, don't shoot. Remember, never happened,

(29:53):
But the media has never said, let's let facts, you know,
matter here. So this story that Michael Brown said don't
shoot with his hands up never happened. But anyway, hands up,
don't shoot protests were happening all over the country, all
over America. There was one on Monument Circle and there
was some dude out there on a bullhorn, hands up,

(30:16):
don't shoot. And at the same time of like the
most poignant passionate moment. Because gen Con was in town.
Some dude with bags of like souvenirs and a full
Chewbacca suit started walking across. Hands up, don't shoot full
Chewbacca suit, like for the pants. That's awesome. Oh, it

(30:40):
was the best thing ever. You could not have scripted
that any better. Great moments in Superheroes saving the Day history.
All right, coming up next, We've got some good news.
I think we've got some safe news. And there's it's
a guy in Pittsburgh that I could actually relate to. Now.

(31:06):
He tried to strangle somebody, but I'm going to tell
you why I can relate to him. When we come back.
We're Roland. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hammer and Nigel.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Can you believe these characters are weirdos?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I think this is good. I'll count this as good news.
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. I'm Jason Hammer, Chris Hammer.
How's it going? The boy filling in for Big Nige today.
So again, when you get toward the end of the year,
you start getting a lot of statistics and data and
reports and all that stuff. But it looks like according

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to folks who factor in, you know, emergency room visits
and everything in between. Overdoses in this country starting to
go down. Drug overdoses plummeting, and not just fentanyl. We're
talking coke, meth, all of them falling. And Chris, I

(32:07):
can't help but think there might be a reason as
to why this is happening.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
You know, I think there might be a reason this
is happening too, And just correct me if I'm wrong.
But my spidey sense is saying that it might be
because we're actually taking care of our southern border.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Now, oh that's right. That little thing that Kamala Harris
was supposed to be the czar of for four years
that completely went unchecked and is wide open that. You know,
It's funny how if you actually do what you're supposed
to do, not create new laws, but actually just practice

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the ones that you have, like running a secure border,
these types of things will happen. You will see less fentanyl,
you will see less cocaine, you'll see less heroin meth.
Now I'm not naive, You're still going to see a
lot of it. Right, Drugs in this country are big business, right,
but if you can help a little bit, you'll see

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the numbers start to go down.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
And when you actually start cracking down on these drug traffickers,
as we see with these boat explosions that Trump just
puts out on social media, which I love. Anytime we
do that, he just drops like a call of duty
style killcam on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's what I want the White House to do with
the stroke of midnight tomorrow. I want there to be
a big countdown at the White House or even borrow
Lago and as soon as it hits zero for a
brand new year, I want Pete heggsif to hit a
button and we blow up a drug boat.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
But right you start taking care of these drug dealers
and these drug traffickers, and your numbers start to fall.
It's a noble concept that clearly works. But if you
ask the last administration, they'll probably tell you different.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Oh they said it was fine. Yeah, there was no
problem at all at the border. Kamala bless her heart,
said she didn't have to go. But she's also never
been to Europe. Oh right, yes, but it was a problem,
and honestly, it was that hard to fix. That's what's
frustrating about the whole thing. It took a couple of
weeks honestly for the border to be in better shape.

(34:09):
And now it's a smooth, well oiled machine down there.
But big picture here, if you put people in positions
of power that do what they're supposed to, you will
see success. Right Tom Holman, you might not like him,
he's not the most lovable, scratchy feely guy, but he

(34:31):
is the most valuable member to Trump's administration. You can
make a case from Marco Rubio and I would listen
to that. But Tom Holman and Rubio are one A
and one B in terms of their importance.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
And you mean, you tell me when you put people
in jobs that they actually know what they're doing, stuff works.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Right now, I'm wondering if you can take this same
philosophy of the border, where if you do what you're
supposed to do, you'll see overdoses go down. Would you
apply that same logic to crime in various big blue cities.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh, I think you definitely can. But again it's one
of those in theory things. But we'll never see that
come to fruition with the way that elections mainly here
in Indianapolis go. I mean, no matter how bad things
can get in this city, the mayor's election is still
going to be a sixty to forty margin for a
Democratic victory. Same thing with the prosecutor's race.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
So in theory yes, but will it happen. No, Because
right now crime homicides are down from year to year,
which is good because I say it all the time.
You're not supposed to set a record every year. This
is good news. Between police technology, the way they're policing,
maybe some of these groups on the streets. Okay, we're

(35:46):
making progress here. Now we could in theory, get this
number under one hundred homicides per year like we had
not that long ago. If and this is where you
were relating to earlier, Chris, if you had competent people
instead of activist judges, activist prosecutors and mayors who wants

(36:06):
to throw the police department under the bus. Now with
hog Set, he gives the police money, but then he
throws them under the bus at the same time. So honestly,
if you're looking at the hierarchy of people who are
a pain in the ass to law abiding citizens here,
I think it goes Ryan Meher's one, activist judges two,
and then hog Set comes in at a distant third.

(36:28):
And I can't believe I'm in a position to say
hog Set's not the worst here, but the judges and
the prosecutor. If you could get just competent people, competent
people who put the activism to the side, you could
in Indianapolis get these numbers under one hundred. And that's
without trying to change the way you classify homicides, because

(36:52):
I know, Boss howg Set tried to do that earlier
in the year.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Oh yes, and again it can easily be done. It's
just a question of are the citizens of Indianapolis willing
to accept that their party is not working right now?
You look at these numbers.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
The citizens aren't and neither are the business community. The
Indie Chamber endorsed Joe hogg Set from mayor the last election. Now,
mind you, howg Set was nowhere to be found when
these buildings were having Molotov cocktails thrown in, bricks thrown
through and were looted out, and some were set on fire.

(37:28):
He let these stores be thrown to the wolves, and
the business community endorsed Joe hogg Set. That's Indianapolis. That's ridiculous.
That's what you need to know about Indianapolis. Tomorrow night,
New Year's Eve, three hundred and fifty National Guard troops
have been deployed in New Orleans. Now, if you remember,

(37:50):
it was just over a year ago, almost a year
to the date, that there was a big, deadly explosion
that took place on Bourbon Street and it caused a
delay in I think it was Notre Dame in Georgia
playing in the Sugar Bowl.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Big Sugar Bowl game that was going on down there,
a lot of people out, a lot of people at bars,
and then just horrible act that happened down there.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Seem like there was a real failure somewhere in local
law enforcement. And again I'm very pro police, you guys
know this, but they did not have very good layout
in plans for what was happening for New Orleans. The
streets that were supposed to be blocked weren't. They didn't

(38:34):
have the proper guard rails up. People were getting ran
over like it was a mess. It was really bad.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Which was really surprising me considering how popular Bourbon Street is,
especially on a holiday like New Year's Eve, where it's
you know, almost tradition for people to go out to
the bars and stuff around there. It's really surprising that
they wouldn't have it down to a science of how
to keep that place safe.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, the car being able to drive where it was
no excuse for that. And you appreciate like what we
do here in Indy a little more because we host
big events too. Now New Orleans, this is one of
the biggest party cities in America. But you've got to
be able to protect the people. Well, we have the
greatest one day sporting event in the world every year,

(39:18):
the Indianapolis five hundred mile Race. Three hundred and fifty
thousand people go in, three hundred and fifty thousand people
for the most part come out. There's some drunkards that
are passed out in the snake bit, but that's not
a public safety issue, right Our police are organizers, State
Police IMPD. They do a great job. I don't know

(39:39):
what happened down in New Orleans last year, but this
year three hundred and fifty National Guard troops have been deployed.
Before we hit a traffic hit with Matt Behar here
Dayline Pittsburgh, a guy near Pittsburgh facing criminal charges after
he tried to strangle a guy who would not stop

(40:01):
singing Christmas carols. He's facing several charges, including aggravated assault. Now,
Kurt Kurt Geralds, who's filling in for producer Alison today,
I kind of feel like, just based off of the
body language I saw from you, I feel like you
might be with me on this one, saying I don't

(40:22):
condone what happened here, but I understand.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
I'm not saying what he did is right, but I understand.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Now Clark Griswold Junior over here, mister Christmas. Like if
my wife is the crazy Christmas lady along with the coupons,
this is Clark Griswold Junior over here. Walk me through
your thoughts. Well, I'm also.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Kind of with this guy, even as someone who is
a big Christmas person. But the story says he wouldn't
stop singing Christmas carols, Like after a while, it would
get really annoying if you just stay on my front
porch singing at the top of your lungs after you're
supposed to leave, like at some point you gotta leave,
you're not, then, well, I'm gonna come out and take
care of the situation.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
And I don't care where you're at. Imagine being picked
up in an uber and your drivers just constantly decks
with bows up.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Huh that would drive you and say, oh it would,
It totally would.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
So again, I don't condone strangling people, but I get it.
In my mind, I met my wits end. I'm stressed
out fighting with my old lady. I got job problems.
Then I've got somebody singing sleigh ride for the next
twenty minutes and won't shut the hell up. I get it,

(41:35):
I get it.

Speaker 10 (41:42):
It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

Speaker 11 (41:47):
Is this anything?

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(42:15):
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Speaker 3 (42:25):
It's something I always hear about, but I need to
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but it doesn't hurt to try, so I'll definitely get
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Speaker 1 (42:32):
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forty percent of Americans say Taco Bell is their favorite
drunk dining hangouts. So if you've been overserved, it's late
in the night, or maybe it's during the day, maybe
you go hard in the paint. Taco Bell, according to

(42:54):
forty one percent of Americans say that is the favorite
and premiere drunk dine spot, followed by McDonald's and then
waffle House, and on average, we consume an extra seven
hundred and seventy five calories after a heavy night of drinking.
Is this anything?

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I guess this is something because I for the most
part agree with this list right here.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
When I have functions with my.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Friends and it's late, we're hungry, mainly because I also
think that's one of those because these are the only
things that are open late at night when see that's
key tend to be out of it like that, right, Denny's.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Waffle House, Taco Bell. If you live in like a
college campus, that was like La Bambas back in the day,
the burritos as big as your head. I don't know
if they're still around, but holy lord, they hit the
spot when you were hammered.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Oh yeah, And I agree that for now. I think
Taco Bell is that for us because out of all
the fast food spots out there, it's probably the most
cheap option out there. Concerning fast food has gotten a
lot more expensive in recent days, but Taco Bell when
you're drunk does hit the spot right there. I can't
confirm from past experience.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Is there.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
And in terms of like waffle House, I think waffle
House and Dinnies are interchangeable. That's more for like the
day after I feel like.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Fighting words.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
Compared waffle Home is always there when you need it
after a long night out. Don't ever compare the.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Okay, Okay, I see the YouTube chat says white Castle,
what happened to White Castle?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Underrated option? Right there it is.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
And I don't know if I've ever had a drunk
dining experience in White Castle, it's usually burgers to go
right now. I've had a fancy dining experience on Valentine's
Day in White Castle where they do like the table
cover and the candle and then you eat all the
food and the rest of the night nobody wants to

(44:48):
have sex. I have done that experience before, but I
don't know if I've had the Harold and Kumar like experience,
which it's impossible to watch that movie and not want
White Castle at the end.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Of it makes you want a crave case.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And this brings us through great moments in Taco Bell history,
because Taco Bell was named America's favorite drunk dining spot.
I believe this is in Philadelphia where there is a
dispute about somebody cutting in the drive through line.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Are one of you guys gonna mule.

Speaker 12 (45:21):
Nobody cutting in front of somebody taking advantage of the centue?

Speaker 3 (45:25):
No, I'm not a piling of police cause what.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
You did is, oh my god, it's Taco Bell. It's
Taco Bell. Like everyone's gonna leave. But I should just
go cut in front of somebody. It's not worth your energy.
And I'm willing to bet the staff at that Taco
Bell that probably wasn't even the top five craziest things
they saw that.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Oh no, there's definitely no They've seen crazier things. But
anytime I see this clip, it just cracks me up.
And I love the people behind mid argument that they
are just laying on their horns. That makes it so
much better, Like they know nobody's gonna go anywhere, but
it just adds to the atmosphere of just the constant
horn hall. Looking at this lady who's calling the cops
over someone cutting in line at the Taco Bell drive through.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Great moments in Taco Bell history. This is where somebody
had a big, massive order and they were causing a
backup in the drive through line. So one lovely young
lady decided to be the investigative journalist and find out
what was going on. And then she became the town
crier and alerted everybody else of what was happening.

Speaker 11 (46:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, the reason this one, it's a great moments in

(46:54):
Taco Bell history. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 13 (46:57):
She was listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show again.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
New Year's Eve Eve. Here on the Hammer in Nigel Show,
I'm Jason Hammer Chris Hammer filling in for Nigel. As
a going I challenged the boy here with coming up
with the biggest sports stories of the year in Indiana.

(47:23):
Because all week on this program, we've been taking a
look back John Nett Cruz from the newsroom. She's been
doing a series each day at three twenty. She'll be
back tomorrow for the year in review, look at celebrity
deaths and pop culture and all that type of stuff entertainment.
We've talked about the biggest stories in Indiana. We've talked

(47:44):
about the biggest stories nationally, but let's keep it in
the Hoosier State. Here, Chris, the biggest sport stories this
past year.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Oh, it was a great year for sports in Indiana
this past year. A lot of great stuff happened. The
big thing that I think is the biggest thing that
happened the year, and it's up for debate, but I
think the biggest thing that happened this year was the
Pacers NBA Finals run. Not a lot of people remember
that the January first, the start of the year, Pacers
kind of started off really slow this year, Like they

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didn't really start turning it around until January hit and
the New year hit. So this time of January, people
were like, well, I hope the Pacers can just make
the playoffs, and they ended up going all the way
to the NBA Finals and we got that great matchup
against the New York Knicks and the Eastern Conference finals.
That brings back a lot of old memories from the
old rivalry. But man Halliburton hitting that shot against the Knicks,

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that was just the best thing ever thing.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
He's in the lane, he nearly lost to the backs
up and unloads a three that it don't happen. It
hit the back of the rim, it tie into the air,
and it dropped gently through the net. I believe about
the Pacer Radio network.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I believe that we were in Nashville when this game happened,
because me and you were going to see ac DC
during the time of this game, right, and uh, we
got back to the hotel to see how the Pacers
made this comeback and we see the ball hits the
brick goes up. Everyone thinks the game's over comes right
back down.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
You No, we were at Nissan Stadium watching a fair.
But that's also the same day that Jim Ersay passed away. Yeah,
that's right. So my phone's getting blown up all night long.
First it was you know the Ersay news. Did you
see this? Is this real? Is this you know legitimate?

(49:30):
Because sometimes even if somebody's got a blue check mark
on Twitter doesn't mean anything. Uh, but my phone blew
up for that, and then later it became the Pacers
game and the Haliburton shot. That's right. I remember we
were at that concert.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
And I think I learned at the news because I
have the notifications from the ESPN app on, and that's
really the first credible notification that I got that Jim
Rsey had passed away. And uh, that was kind of
a busy day for the sports story in Indiana. Sad
to see Jim go with such a nice guy for Colts.
But moving on some more happy news and football news
in the state of Indiana. Some people would argue that

(50:07):
this may be the biggest story, is this IU Rose
Bowl number one overall ranked run that they're going on
right now. And the reason I put the Pacers over
is because IU was really good. Like last year, well
so was the Pacers, but the whole year IU was
just dominant, and we've never really seen that from an
IU football team. Now people agree they were the more
physical team and pretty much every game they played a

(50:29):
more physical game than Ohio State in a Big Ten
championship game. Now I use football team, now their basketball team.
Their football team played a more physical game than Ohio State.
And but there was a moment when we thought that
it could all derail. They had to go to Penn
State to play them, which is a tough environment to play,
and they'd.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Fired their coach at this point, and the wheels were
kind of falling off. But this was the one big
game Penn State still had scheduled, you know, circled on
their schedule to say, hey, we can still do this.
We were preseason top five team here and they gave
the Hoosiers all they wanted.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Oh boy, they did, and it took a miracle last
minute comeback from the Hoosiers to get that game done.

Speaker 12 (51:10):
Mendoza in the backfield back to throw, pressure comes again, throws.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
It to the ends of made is.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
It a touchdown?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Touch down?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Two pund Then he put his foot down. It's a
store that's fish on the IU radio network and I
hear everybody say that was the heisman moment for Mendoza, right,
that was his heisman moment. How about that catch right?
Like Omar Cooper being able to drag that foot in

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bounds after it ridiculously difficult.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
How he did that Like he was up in the
air and it's like he just extended his leg down
to get it in there. That was That was an
amazing moment for the Hoosiers right there, and they're in
the Rose Bowl. Now, how many people thought you'd see
Indiana football in a Rose Bowl game? It's sometime this
century right.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Now, favorite against Alabama, right the Crimson Tide.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
If you had told me even two years ago that
IU football is gonna be a better team than Alabama,
would have laughed at your face.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
The second losing this record in the history of college football,
right you, And now they're the number one team in
the country.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
And coming up here in just about eight minutes, we'll
have another round of Alabama jokes, so make sure you
stick around for that. What else we got on the list?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Month of May this year was definitely interesting. Indy five
hundred comes around every year, but it was.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It was really hyped up.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
This is the first year that Fox TV had the
broadcasting rights for and they really making this a big thing.
But the thing that stood out to me is it
was cold this year at the Indy five hundred. Me
and you were both there and you got to fire
the cannon to open up the way that was there
out there that morning when they fired off the cannon,
and man, it was cold like I've never had to
wear like in my lifetime, had to wear like a

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hoodie and sweatpants to the Indy five hundred.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
But this year that changed and it wasn't a great race. Now,
your mister race, you love all types of auto sport.
Why wasn't it a great race?

Speaker 11 (53:05):
Man?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Just these Indye cars with the hybrid unit. It was
really kind of weighing them down this year. But the
weather also really didn't help. If it was just cold,
that would have been great, but there was an off
and on sprinkle all day that was making everything moisten. Man,
the weather was just horrible this year. And I've got
some friends that this year it was their first Indy
five hundred they went to, and I've had to tell
them it's normally not like this. For the weather, you
got to go another year.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
This is normally you get like the most bitchin Farmer's
tan sunburn. You'll see people just drunk and passed out
in the infield. It was cold. It was really cold.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I believe that I saw somewhere that said in the
modern era of the Indy five hundred, this was the
third coldest race on record. Only like ninety two and
ninety seven were colder. So yeah, it was. It was
sixty two right now would seem great, but for late
May that was freezing out.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
And the wind was howling and it was raining. Just
when you think you're going green, there was a delay
for rain and it was a cold rain. What else
was on the list.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
We got WWE bringing the Royal Rumble to Indianapolis. I
believe that's part of a deal where wwe' is bringing
like the main three pay per views to Indianapolis. So
the first year of that was this year. So that
took place in I believe late January, like it always
does here.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Now, you and I have a theory that if you
go to a WWE event and you see somebody wearing
one of those novelty championship belts, oh yes, you're able
to challenge them and try to steal the belts, especially
if I've got.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
The novelty money in the bank briefcase. You're casting in
my novelty money in the briefcase for your novelty belt.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
And you need to have a guy in a referee
jersey that can run down there and be able to
give you a one two free. Yes, but I don't
care if it's a woman or a kid or anybody.
If you're going to walk around with the strap, you
better be prepared to defend it.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
And we need to care if it's the WWE event,
because you know, Tyrese Halliburn, big WWE guy, Pacers fans.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Where did Pacers WWE velts to Pacers game?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
You're well wearing it.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I'm gonna challenge you. I don't care where it's at.
Money in the bank.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Manya comes into town and you and n IgE don't
take advantage of this with a novelty briefcase and dressing
somebody up in a referee costume and running around downtown
doing this, I'm gonna be very disappointed.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, that's uh that needs to happen. So yeah, I
forgot w DOT. We were there before that one were
and it was the John Cena farewell tour. But I
have a feeling this is gonna be like one of
those kiss farewell tours. You'll see him at a rumble
here in about five years. Oh yeah, all right, anything else.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
We had Purdue basketball. We hit on IU, so we'll
make the Purdue fans happy. They were number one in
the country for a little bit there and then immediately
lost it.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah, Iowa State, who's really good, by the way, went
into Mackie and just beat the brakes off of Purdue.
But hat tipped to Matt Painter, Like I know he
hasn't won the Big One, but they're good every year
they are. But that program is good every year. It's
what I you basketball used to be like. Now Purdue
is like that good. But I you one ae banners

(56:00):
back in the day.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I'm so tired of hearing these Purdue fans go those
banners and assembly are dusty. Well, at least they have banners, right,
You guys don't have anything at all.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Sound like cowboys fans and the trained people, And Kurt,
I'll put you in this category. You train people. They
have some banner up in Mackie Arena where they celebrate
some sort of championship like before the West was wild
and before like Glaciers you know, had moved in. Still counts, No,
it does not. If it's not NCAA, then it does

(56:31):
not count. If it's not the March Madness Tournament, it
does not count. I'm sorry, Yeah it does.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
It does. Train train people's crazy. No, I think we'll
be I think we're gonna hang one this year. I
got to feel Braydon Smith is one of the best
players in the country. I think when we get to
March per Due will lock in. I got a good
feeling this year. For some reason.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
They were number one seed a couple of years ago
and lost to a sixteen seed.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
So it happens. That's the beauty of March madness.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
You sound like Charlie Brown getting ready to kick the
football with Lucy holding it. I know it's always been
the exact same thing, but this year is going to
be different.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
This Colts quarterback's gonna do good this year.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. So the Hoosiers taking
on the Crimson Tide. New Year's Day, Pasadena, the Rose Bowl.

(57:29):
I you arrived out to Pasadena. I believe yesterday. A
lot of the fans are going out there now. Man
enjoy it because this type of stuff doesn't happen all
the time, especially for like the IU football program. We
were talking about this earlier, one of the most losing
programs in the history. But since coach Sigg walked in

(57:51):
there with the little swagger, he's changed the game. And
the transfer portal helps. I you spending some money and
they're the number one seed in this whole thing, and
their favorite over Alabama by a touchdown on New Year's Day.
So what we've been doing every single day leading up
to the game Alabama jokes. That's right, We're gonna make

(58:15):
fun of those toothless Hillbillies and there's not a damn
thing they're gonna say. It's gonna make me stop. Let's
go in Alabama. Since so many family members are hooking
up with each other, they don't have a family tree,
they have a family wreath. Hoa, give it to me, Chris,
let's go.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Here you go as a Tennessee fan, you know I've
got one on standby at any given moment. What do
you get when you put one hundred Alabama Crimson Tide
fans in one room? A full set of teeth?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Hoda, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
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(59:15):
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(59:37):
A new study found the age when you officially turn
into your parents. For women, it's thirty three. For the
average man, it's thirty four. Now, let me just say
this as somebody who is forty eight when I see
these commercials and I can't remember the company that it's for,
but it's the old guy and his job is to

(59:58):
make sure these younger people aren't turning into their parents.
You know, social things like you don't have to yell
somebody's name out of a Starbucks.

Speaker 11 (01:00:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I think it's like one of those insurance companies that, yes,
I defend what those people are doing all the time.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to get a good selfie
of the people, or hanging out with LL cool J
trying to get a good selfie. I have no problem
with that. Like I find myself citing with the people
that are supposedly being mocked all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
You know, I hear you on that and I'm looking
at this study they say it's thirty four. I feel
like that's only going to go down. Like I'm a
junior in college or three years move from graduate from
high school, but I have cookouts in my backyard, I'm
playing cornhole. My friends are wearing the white new balanced
shoes when they come over here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Like you listen to Guards n' Roses and ac DC,
like all your friends hate getting into your car because
you're gonna have the playlist of like Nige and I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Oh yeah. But what I have noticed is is starting
to change a little bit. They start to like listen
to that more now that they've graduated from have been
a few years removed from that. So yeah, I feel
like we're already there. I feel like we already are
have turned into our parents with the stuff that we do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Dateline Colorado police in Colorado pulled over a guy because
he had a broken tail light and he replaced it
with a red gatorade bottle, so the tail light was out.
He takes a red Gatorade bottle, like puts it on there,
tapes it on there just so it looks red and

(01:01:28):
here's the kicker. This guy did not get a ticket.
So you got a dude going around here with a
freaking gatorade bottle taped to his car. You don't know
when he's turning, you don't know when he's breaking. But
I do just a little quick in a school zone,
and I got a ticket, which I had to pay
a couple months ago. Stinks. All right, do not go anywhere.

(01:01:53):
We got a busy, busy five o'clock hour on the way.
Update on this ridiculous weather. AOC is in the news.
We'll have some fun with that. We got a couple
of different reasons to drink and caller Roulette for the
first time in the new studio. That's all coming up.
Do not go anywhere. This is the Hammer and Nigel show,

(01:02:16):
Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe these characters are weirdos?
Sole Again, it's been colder, but it just feels like
frigid and ridiculous, because forty eight hours ago I was
taking the trash out wearing shorts and it was sixty

(01:02:38):
degrees and the next day it was in the twenties again.
And here we are again right now, temperatures in the twenties,
low at fifteen. You heard the weather at the top
of the hour there from Steven Deanna. No real relief
coming up until early next week Tomorrow New Year's Eve

(01:02:59):
low of eighteen, Thursday, New Year's Day low of seventeen.
But Monday and Tuesday next week, if you can kind
of hang on and get there, Monday high of forty eight,
Tuesday maybe a little rain, but we're back in the fifties.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
That's great, that's great to hear. I mean this right
now is horrible compared to what we had. What just yesterday,
seventy degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Well those two days ago yesterday was asked too, that's right. Uh,
two days ago was sixty degrees, yesterday cold. And again
we've been through polar vortex, we've been through sub zero temperatures,
we've been through blizzards, squalls, we've been through squalls. But
this just coming off of like a sixty degree day

(01:03:48):
feels colder. And I know it's just all mental, right,
It's the same reason why I can't swallow pills. I
have to chew everything up. I know that it's mental.
But when you have sixty something like sixty five almost right,
and the next morning, you know everything's frozen outside. It
just chills you to the bone a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yeah, weather, it's totally mental. Like going back to our
conversation about the Indy five hundred this past year. You know,
we'll take sixty five and that's shorts and t shirt
weather for us right now in December, but late May,
early June. And if it's sixty five, that's cold. Like
I'm wearing a hoodie. I'm wearing sweatpants in June if
it's sixty five degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
And you can always tell, like who lives in what
part of the country, right, So if you go to
like the airport, for an example, and you see somebody
just walking around with like just a hoodie and that's it.
They're probably from Wisconsin where this doesn't bother them, it
doesn't feel cold. They might be from Minnesota. Maybe they're
running from fraud.

Speaker 14 (01:04:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
But then you get down to Florida and let's say
that it's only sixty six or sixty seven, there are
people bundled up like, oh yeah, like the polar vortex
is coming in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
We were down there, think it was number of years ago,
but it was in January. We just wanted to get
away from the cold weather. We were on the beach
when it was like sixty five degrees and like you know,
swim trunks. We go to eat and there's these people
wearing like full on coats, yes, stock hats, and it's
sixty seven to sixty eight degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
The locals don't know how to handle it. But if
you live in a colder area, you think everybody below
you is a woosie or something that rhymes with it.
Let's talk about aoc here. She is scheduled to introduce
ma'm donnie at the big New Year's Day inauguration. So Chris,
I'll defer to you on this one. Is this the

(01:05:38):
new Democrat power couple? Two socialists from New York? Even
though ma'am Donny's at the local level, you have to
believe he's got his sight set on something higher than
being the mayor. All of a sudden, people are digging
socialism in New York.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Is this the power couple? Well, that's the thing that
you said, digging socialism in New York. Like, if you're
going to be a power coupital, I think you've got
to be like these national players. And right now, even
though despite what TikTok and Instagram will tell you. I
don't think that the country as a whole is willing
to elect a socialist to any national office. So I'm

(01:06:18):
gonna say no just for that reason above. And I
think even the Democratic Party knows that AOC, and I
think even if they ran Mendami, I don't think they
can win a general in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
They can win a primary.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
They can win a primary because AOC has.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Got the funding. She is a fund raising machine. Now
she may be what the kids call Amron, but she
brings in big bucks. She's a fund raising machine, and
she's active on social media. She'll get all the young,
little white liberal girls that live in Westfield to think
that socialism is great. Right, But you can't win a

(01:06:54):
general like that.

Speaker 13 (01:06:55):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
I mean, if money bought elections, then we should have
a Mike Bloomberg presidency twenty He ran ads all over
the place, It was all over social media, but no
one cared about him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Speaking of AOC, she went on some stream. I think
this was a TikTok conversation she did and was ripping
the borders are Tom Homan?

Speaker 11 (01:07:18):
Every time you see Tom Holman on Fox News, every
time you see these law enforcement officials doing flashet television interviews,
understand that they are taking attention and focus and real
dollars and real resources away from actual drug enforcement, trafficking enforcement,
actually going after and actually trying to investigate really harmful

(01:07:40):
activity that is happening.

Speaker 13 (01:07:43):
So that was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
AOC shots fired, if you will, at the Borders r
Tom Homan, and I said earlier, and I'll stand by
this case could be made for Marco Rubio, and maybe
it's the better answer, but it's hard pressed to find
somebody that's been better at their job than Tom Holman
that Trump has appointed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
And if her whole argument is that he single handley
is taking money away from actually patrolling the border and
patrolling drugs, why did we have that story earlier that
overdoses are down in the country. She needs to make
that make sense for me real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Well, this story got back to Tom Holman, and Tom
was on Fox. I believe he was on Laura Ingram's program.
And let's hear what the Borders Are has to say
about the socialist sweetheart.

Speaker 12 (01:08:29):
Look, I tell you pleasure in the fact I can
live in her mind rent free every day. That means
I'm over the target. That means I'm making a difference.
Bottom line is she needs to look at the data.
Ice is We've already rested more criminal illego aliens in
six weeks the em Biden administration did in the year
the border is sealed, ninety six percent decline illego immigration.

(01:08:52):
And when ninety six percent less people are coming across
that border, how many children aren't dying, how many women
aren't being sex traffic, how many non suspected terrorists aren't
getting the country. How many pounds of fannaw isn't getting
into kill Americans. This administration send more for the safety
and security of New York that she's ever.

Speaker 15 (01:09:09):
Done or ever will do.

Speaker 12 (01:09:10):
So now we're gonna keep, don't we do. I'm not
running popularity contest. If she don't like me, I'll wear
that as a badge of honor. That means I'm doing
the right thing now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
That kids is what we call a depantsing. A de
panting from Tom Holman. The borders are If you're looking
for a reason to drink tonight, Happy forty first birthday
to Lebron James. Lebron James forty one years old. Listen,
I will say this great basketball player, kind of a

(01:09:42):
dumb guy, habitual liar, dumb guy, but phenomenal talent on
the basketball court. Now, I'm a Jordan guy. You're not
going to tell me that Lebron is the goat when
there was a dude that used to wear number twenty
three for the Chicago Bulls. But Lebron is in the
conversation as a basketball player. But boy, when he tries

(01:10:05):
to talk about social issues, he's a habitual liar and
a dummy, which brings us to a segment we call
talking politics with Lebron James. Now, Nigel politics, you live.

Speaker 10 (01:10:21):
In work in a state in which the majority of
votes voted for the current presidents. How do you reconcile
having called that choice on the stake that many of
those people are also Cavaliers fans.

Speaker 16 (01:10:35):
Well, I mean that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
At the end of the day, like I said, you
can uh huh. I don't think a lot of people
was educated James quote, I don't think a lot of
people was educated. Okay. And then there was that one incident,
well maybe incidents a strong word. Lebron wanted to look

(01:11:03):
smart standing at his locker, so he had a Malcolm
X book. Right, he wanted to show everybody that he
was edgy, and he's reading up on Malcolm X and
Fight the Power.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
A reporter asked him about it, and Chris, listen to
this answer. It sounds like he had a book report
due the next day and did not read a single
page of it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
So you're holding the autobiography of Malcolm X along with
Alex Haley.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
I don't know how far you are into the book,
but what's your biggest takeaway so far?

Speaker 16 (01:11:33):
I started a couple of days ago. Uh huh, oh yeah,
but I've read and a lot of a lot of
notes over the years. It's my first time actually reading this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
I'm starting to finish, uh huh.

Speaker 16 (01:11:44):
Which is a very.

Speaker 14 (01:11:47):
Very smart man.

Speaker 16 (01:11:48):
Uh huh, very very very smart man. And basically his
words in the in the sixties, oh yeah, and was
going on that actually was going on today, Steal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
What the hell did you just say? It sounded like
a male Kamala Harris there with that word salad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
This sounded exactly what I sounded like in fifth grade.
When you're right, I had a book report, dude, I
didn't read it. I got up there and said, well,
you see there's this man named Gatsby and he was great.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Great you at Full Rodney Dangerfield and I love it.
If you need another reason to drink tonight. Tiger Woods fifty.
Tiger Woods is now officially old enough to be on
the Seniors Tour in the PGA.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Man, I mean, growing up, I had all those games
on the Wii, like the Tiger Woods, like All Stars
video game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Man, he's fifty, now fifty, and look, Tiger's body has
been through some stuff, right, Like his body started to
break down. Well, it kind of started after his wife
took some golf gloves up against him when she busted
him cheating. That'll do it, That'll do it. But yeah,
had his body not broken down, I feel like he

(01:13:03):
probably could have broken that Jack Nicholas record. I don't
think he's going to get there now now, but before
we hit a traffic break with Matt Behar. Great moments
in Tiger Wood's history. This is back when Tiger returned
to the Masters, right, he took some time off. He'd
gotten beat up by his ex wife for running around

(01:13:23):
with all these waitresses, and he finally came back and
the fine folks at CBS asked me to write the promo.

Speaker 14 (01:13:32):
The Masters. It's a tradition unlike any other. And this
year Tiger Woods is back doing all the things that
made him a champion. He's staying healthy, he's making putts,
and he's fornicating with as many women as he possibly can. Hair, hair,

(01:13:53):
all types of women, short women, tall women, thin women,
fat women, white women, black women, illegal women. Oh and
we're not just talking about high end women. No, we're
talking about chicks that work at Kroger and waitresses from Denny's.
The Masters only on CBS. I thought that was a

(01:14:17):
great promo, but they never invited me back. Matt Behar,
what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Are you really okay?

Speaker 11 (01:14:26):
Are you alcome?

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
Everything still to the Airkame?

Speaker 17 (01:14:30):
Are you okay?

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I'm fine.

Speaker 17 (01:14:33):
I'm pretty freeking far from okay? Are you okay? With
this on the Hammer and Idols.

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Speaker 17 (01:15:02):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
You tell me if you're all right with any of
these cool and nightclub in Miami tried to do this
stunt last week where they had a female employee in
her underpants ride a horse onto the dance floor. But
the horse bucked her off and ran out of the club,
and the club just had its business license revoked and

(01:15:25):
now the owners could be looking at an animal cruelty investigation.
Are you okay with any of this? You know what,
I'm okay with the horse.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Good for the horse, you know what, Good for him
for having some self respect there just threw her off
and left. I love that for the horse. And in
what situation would a nightclub need to be doing this
with the horse? I mean, in my experience is nightclubs
aren't necessarily that big of spaces, So how are we
getting a whole horse in there?

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Miami nightclubs are a different animal. But do you need
to have the woman in her underpants? And I can't
believe I'm the one saying this goes more often than not.
If a woman wants to be in her underpants, I'll
take a look. But is somebody gonna see her like
ride that horse onto the busy dance floor and go?

(01:16:14):
I know they could at least put her in her underwear.
I mean, she's fully clothed. What are we doing here?
None of this makes any sense to me. And I
feel like the horse had this planned out because he
knew where the exit was. It wasn't like he was
just a ball in a china shop, you know, like
running around trying to find somewhere to go. No, the
horse bucked off this broad in her panties and made

(01:16:37):
a beeline for the door and got out. So I
feel like the horse knew exactly what was gonna happen
and this was his moment.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, that's a self aware horse right there. He knows
his value, he knows what he's worth. That's below him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
He has no time for that. All right, let's keep
it in the nightclub industry. Are you okay with this?
Some drunk guy tried to do a backflip over a
woman's table at a bar in Georgia last week, but
he crashed through it and landed on the woman's head.
She had to go to the hospital, and now the
police are trying to track down the idiot that did

(01:17:11):
the drunken backflip that didn't land all the way. Are
you all right with this?

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
You mean to tell me a drunk guy didn't land
a backflip? Really in Georgia. I'm shot now. I'm not
okay with this. This is this has got to be
probably some Georgia frat guy who said, quote famous words,
hold my beer, and then nothing good proceeds to happen
after that. We've got a lady in the hospital now,
and now you're running from the law. So congratulations. I

(01:17:36):
hope your horrible backflip attempt was worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
And if they catch this guy and they bring him in,
is he gonna have any street cred because he's gonna
be in jail at some point and everybody's gonna be
sitting next to each other. Bro, what did you do?
I punched a guy? What did you do? I stabbed
a dude?

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
What did you do?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I failed at a backflip? Like, that's the guy that's
gonna become the prison girlfriend, right totally. He's the one
that's gonna be very subservient to the others. Are you
okay with this? According to a new study, stress is contagious,
So if you're spending time with people who are stressed out,
according to the new study, it's gonna mess with your brain.

(01:18:19):
And make you more stressed out as well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
I mean, I'm okay with this because I feel like
I already knew that. I mean, if you just spend
time around with people who are stressed out and the
way they talk to you, the way they're talking, Yeah,
it's gonna make me more stressed out. I already knew that.
Do we really need to have a study to say that.
I feel like that was common information.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
We've known about buzzkills for a long time. Debbie Downers right.
Last one. A thirty four year old woman in New
Mexico failed a drug test last month when she tested
positive for meth. So she decided that she didn't want
to give up meth. So what she would do is
put a fake prescription label on a pill bottle and

(01:18:58):
tried to convince her probation officer that it was medicinal
prescribed meth. The probation officer did not buy it. She's
now facing charges.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Well, I believe it was Michael Jordan that once said
you missed one hundred percent of the shots you don't take.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
So Jordan Gretzky could be six seven. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:18):
Michael Scott said that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Actually, Michael Scott said that as well on the office.

Speaker 12 (01:19:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Uh, I'm not even mad at her. No, she tried
it prescription myth. It says it right here on the bottle.
I don't know what your problem is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
And she lived in Oregon. She may have got away
with it, honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Right all right, Uh, for the first time, we're gonna
try to do caller roulette. This is where you call
in to two three nine ninety three ninety three. I
have no idea what you want to talk about. Chris
has no idea what you're going to talk about. Kurt's
just going to get your name and we are going
to fly blind. Okay, hopefully the phones work. But two

(01:19:57):
three nine three nine three, that's the number. Two three
nine ninety three ninety three. If you want to talk
about the year in review, if you want to talk
about fraud in Minneapolis, if you want to talk about
the Colts or anything in between, Sydney Sweeney, anything goes.
Just keep it brief and keep it radio clean. Two

(01:20:21):
three nine ninety three ninety three. Caller Roulette coming up
right after Jake Nigel Show. It's been a little bit,
but it's time for a little caller Roulette. Now again,
this is where I have no idea what these people

(01:20:44):
on hold want to talk about, no idea at all.
Responsible shows normally have their producer talk to whoever's calling in,
find out what they want, coach them up a little bit,
tell them all the important things. Turn your radio down.
We don't do any of that crap. We just put
a bunch of people on hold, and we're going to

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just throw caution into the wind here. This really is
a bad idea if you think about it. We're risking
our number one rated program for a bunch of people
that we have no idea what they're going to say. Now,
if you're on hold, do us a favor. Turn your
radio down and keep it brief. Other than that, let's
light this candle up. First, we're going to go to Cody. Cody,

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welcome to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
What's up, hey, guys.

Speaker 13 (01:21:32):
First off, love your show. I want to talk about
the roads in Indiana and the absolute crap.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Quality that they are.

Speaker 13 (01:21:39):
We have these fifth highest gas tax in the nation
as of July twenty twenty five, and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I just made the drive.

Speaker 13 (01:21:47):
From Illinois into Indiana and the rhoads are absolute garbage.
What are we doing with the money that we're supposed
to be allocating towards roads.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Oh that's a great, great question, thank you, Cody. A
lot of the money makes its way into a thing
called the General Fund. No, not all of it, I know,
like the sports betting money and some of the lottery
money makes its way into the general Fund. Now, they
will tell you, they being the lawmakers, that the General

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Fund is designed for whatever project is needed street repair
or fixing infrastructure. But what it really becomes is a
pet slush fund for the high ranking Republicans. So if
you're a mover and shaker in the Indiana Senate and
the swinebarn needs fixed at your local county fair, you

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get to go to the general Fund. And you're right.
We are over taxed like a mother in this state.
It's not even close. And that's what makes me sick.
When these school districts put their hands out, well, these children,
they're going to starve to death. They're all going to
be shot in the hallway if you get any sort
of tax relief, full.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Of crap, Because heaven forbid, you actually run a budget
in the year twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Right, you may have to make cuts like families have
to make cuts. So Cody, great call. Yeah, we should
have better roads. But the way we're taxed in Indiana.
But it's a mess, it's a hot mess. You're absolutely right.
Let me take regular Jeff on four Regular Jeff my man.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Hey, what the heck's up?

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Famer?

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
I'm sorry, Hey, look you guys. Normally I can hear
the show's still going on while I'm on hold, but
I am not on I'm on hold. But okay, So
I got a question for you Hammer with dot Naguilar.
I want you to go with your heart or your head.
Who do you think is gonna win the Indian Alabama game?

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Now listen, use your head on one answer and your
heart on the other.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Well, my heart will say anybody in the world for Alabama.
That's my heart exactly. My head pick you'll be able
to find for free on the Degenerates Nextdoor podcast. I
do have a pick on a side. Now. Some of
the pro handicappers that we work with, they've got to
play on the game total the over under. I'm on

(01:24:18):
a side, so if you want to find out who
I've picked, and I believe another pro handicapper has my
same pick Degenerates next Door. It's been you know, shared
on our social media. Find it anywhere you get your podcasts.
I've got a free play on that as well as
the big NFL Steelers and Ravens game. So thank you

(01:24:40):
for that. And as for not being able to hear
when you're on hold, I don't know. I'm just happy
the phones are working right now. What do you want
me to do? Ian is up next? Ian rock and Roll?

Speaker 18 (01:24:51):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Hey, I just want to ask a question on what
your stance is on ICE people detained by ICE beacause
there's a lot of hard working, you know, people out
there who are you know, in jail that don't have
a chance to come work in the United States, And

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I just wanted to know what the stance on that was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Well, if you came to the United States illegally, I
feel like then you should be at some point asked
to leave. It's hard to get into this country. And
if you want to have a conversation about should we
make the process a little faster with the rise of AI,
with the way we can look into backgrounds and all

(01:25:35):
the technology, if you want to tell me there has
to be a faster way for legitimate, good people to
become naturalized citizens or citizens rather of the United States.
I'll listen to that. Okay, fine, but talk to the
people who have done it legally. It's a long process
and it ticks them off when people just walk across

(01:25:58):
and cut the corner. And look, not everybody walking across
the border is a drug dealer. They're not all selling fentanyl.
I get it, But there are rules, there are regulations.
You have to keep these rules and regulations in place
or you don't have a country and you don't have
a border. Now, if you're telling me, I've got a

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room full of ten people that have all come across
the border, five of them are human traffickers, three of
them are drug dealers, and two of them are just
people that want to start a better life in America.
I do feel like there should be a pecking order, right,
get the criminals out first. But the real reality is

(01:26:41):
you kind of committed a crime when you entered the
country illegally. So I'm not going to shed a bunch
of tears for those saying, well, we didn't do anything wrong.
Well kind of did. But again, separate conversation. If you
want to have a talk about with the technology and
AI should it be quicker to get good immigrants into

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the United States. I'll have that conversation. All right, let's
go to line three. David as standing by David. What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:27:16):
Hey, how are you guys today? You're doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
So I just wondered if our mayor and the traffic
engineers got together and had a double or triple tiger
to figure out how to screw up Michigan and New
York Street. They've created more accidents and more people struck
by vehicles than you could imagine.

Speaker 14 (01:27:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Well, if you're asking if our mayor here in Indie
was involved in any sort of alcohol induced decision making,
I'm going to air on the side of probably. Probably.
That's how it works. It's a mess. You're right, and
I say this not because I'm trying to be over
the top or a smart ass. You look at downtown,

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we look like Detroit. We look like everything we used
to make fun of. A bunch of construction that is
going on forever that's never done, horrible road conditions, homeless
people everywhere you go. We've become what we used to
make fun of. In Indianapolis, We've become Detroit.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Yeah, trying to drive downtown in itself is just horrible now,
especially if you're going anywhere remotely close to the five
o'clock hour, just because of all of this construction on.
I mean, if it's like sixty nine south over here,
that's split being under construction, and it's been under construction forever,
and it's making everything horrible just trying to get in
and out of downtown right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
And I feel for some of the businesses right because
they probably thought there might be a little construction. But
like Tom's Watch Bar. Now, I don't know the Tom
Watch Bar people, but I'm willing to bet when they
agreed to open up their bar right there, they probably
didn't think that the main street where all of their
foot traffic going to be coming in, would be closed

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for like two and a half years. Like that sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
I guarantee they probably told he was gonna be oh yeah,
we'll have it done within a couple months. And here
we are almost two years later. Streets are still closed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
But government fund at Hotel hot Damn, that thing's going
up like a rocket ship. Everything else Detroit. Uh, let's
go to line number two. Steve is standing by Steve
What's up man?

Speaker 14 (01:29:25):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (01:29:26):
So I was listening to the show and the guy
that all called in about the roads kind of tripped
my trigger a little bit. And that's an overstatement, but
I'm fifty eight years old and my family's from down
around Lake Cumberland, Kentucky. My parents raised me up here,
so we've made that drive on I sixty five South
many many times. And I was just telling my daughter,
who's seventeen. I was like, seems like, over well over

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thirty five years, this stretch of road has always been
under work. And she said, do you think that is Dad?
And I said, well, I'm a little close to politics
on some level. I'm surprised that by me back to
the party because I feel like form and that's just
fight the Black Panther Party, right, you know? I said,
you know, there's got to be some kind of mismanagement,
like is it a jobs program? Does it make unemployment

(01:30:11):
numbers look better? Does it keep voters happier? If we've
always got good paying jobs in the works with road
workers and nothing against them. But you go into Kentucky,
the roads have been proceeded for twenty five years, same thing.
You go north it's the same thing. So I just
wanted to come and empathize on that note. And that's
that's something that I've always felt. And your platform seem

(01:30:34):
to be, you know, a good place for me to
second that motion, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
I appreciate that, brother, Thank you so much. And the
thing that bothers me is that now politicians aren't held
accountable for the way they've handled the roads like in
the past. You would expect if it's an election year,
the incumbent, if it's an incumbent mayor, boy, he's going
to really make sure the roads are clean and patched

(01:30:59):
up and infant structure is good, because that's what happens
in an election year. We're lucky if our mayor in
Indianapolis is even sober and awake. That's what the bar
is at right now. And don't forget he's still very
much being questioned about sexual harassment things taking place in
his office. He's a dumpster fire of a man, he's
a dumpster fire of a human being, but he keeps

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getting elected with sixty percent of the vote, right, and
it's all over the state.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
I love.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
We experienced when we went to a Cubs and Reds
game this past year. You drive just to any other state.
As soon as you hit the border to Ohio, Illinois, Kentucky,
bumpy road, bumpy road, smooth, no construction. Right when we
came back, the first thing that greeted us into Indiana,
it wasn't a welcome to Indiana sign, It was a
road construction ahead for the next seven and to so
miles in horrible road conditions, and.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
It was the awful welcome to Indiana signed to this.
The new one sucks. I hate the new one. Yeah,
bring back the Crossroads of America because that's what we are.
I'm with Andrew Ireland on this one. That is the
goat of Indiana welcome signs. The stupid blue one that
Holcomb made sucks. All right? Do we have Charles standing
by for the last one? Charles, you get the final word.

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In twenty twenty five on caller Roulette, go ahead, Charles, Yeah,
I forget.

Speaker 18 (01:32:16):
You got that delayed effect. You get all your equipment
going of the like he was mentioned, well why she
was have women. I didn't turn the radio off because
you can't hear you guys when you're on hold. Was
again home on a second here, I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Yeah, all right, thank you, Charles, and that puts a
bow tie on Caller Roulette In twenty twenty five. I
knew that's how we were going to go out. I
absolutely just knew it. When I saw that Charles was
going to be in the mix here, I thought, all right,
I'm gonna give my guy a chance here. And I
like Charles. Charles has got a lot of energy. But
if I come to you, I don't need a lecture

(01:32:54):
on what's not working. I'm aware, right, I've been yelling
and fighting behind the scenes, well aware, and I hate
that that's the way we're going to go out. Is
there anybody else on? Hold kirt? Is there anybody else?
Can we just take one live? Let's take one live.
It's ringing. I can't go out like that. All right,
just pick it up. Welcome to the Hammer and Nigel Show.
You are live on the air. Who is this? My

(01:33:17):
name is Matt, Matt's my man, Matt. All right, we're
gonna try to give you the final word on Caller Roulette.
Go ahead.

Speaker 15 (01:33:25):
Well, first of all, I wanted to talk about the
rose ball being born and raised in Oklahoma. I am
really disappointed that the Sooners let up and let Alabama in.
But my daughter and my money went to Bloomington for
four years. So I am all in Indiana.

Speaker 12 (01:33:44):
Hoosiers.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
There you go, There you go. Now, that is how
you put a cap on caller Roulette for twenty twenty five.
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. It's the Hammer and
Nigel Show. I'm Jason Hammer, Chris Hammer. I was going
in for Big Nige here, Chris. According to a new study,
sixty percent of Americans complain that there aren't enough hours

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in the day. The average person says they need about
twenty eight hours a day, and in that same study,
thirty four percent say they'd spend those extra hours cleaning
the house and doing chores.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Do you buy any of this?

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Oh, I don't buy any of that, because even if
let's just say there were twenty eight hours and they
you do the same study, someone would say, oh, well,
I need thirty two hours in the day to get
everything doet. It's the argument for the college football playoffs, exactly, exactly,
no matter how many teams or no matter how how
many hours are in the day, you're always going to
feel like you need more because somebody's going to be unhappy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Right, one percent. But if you did have an extra
four hours a day, what would you do sleep or.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
What I guess sleep? I mean probably still the same
stuff I do now. I mean, I feel like there's
a perfect amount of time of the day to get
abe takes.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Some trash out in your house maybe once in a while.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
Maybe I don't know about that, but yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Here's a question. If you're at a nightclub and there's
a robot bartender right almost like a kiosk where you
can type in your instructions and it makes you a
cocktail right there. When you go to pay, and it
asks for a tip, do you tip the robot bartender?

Speaker 13 (01:35:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Because this is a big debate. Some chicks sharing a
video on TikTok right now, and after this woman got
her cocktail made on the touch screen, it says there's
a ten percent service charge and asking for a tip.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
So somebody's going to get a tip even though they
did absolutely no work in making the drink at all. No.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
I wouldn't even say someone it's a robot, where's the
money going to? I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
You're wrong, I'm tipping the robot. I've seen eye robot.
I'm tipping the robot. Oh maybe twenty five. I'm just saying,
when it happens, you guys are done for I'm good.
I tipped the robot.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
I was at some where I forget where it was,
but I was somewhere where it was a ballgame of
some sort. And I go to this concession stand and
it's one of those where you grab the food that
you want and you said it on the thing and
it scans it and you pay for it. Nobody hands
you anything, nobody makes you anything. It's just all there,
paid for everything, and the kiosk is asking for a tip.
Who's getting a tip?

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
I grabbed everything, I got everything I want. Was there
a charity group that was like in charge of it,
because sometimes I get guilted, like if I know it's
like the so and so Little League out of you know,
wherever any of that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
It was just it wanted me to leave a tip,
even though I did all the work and getting everything
I wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Yeah. Yeah, And I hate like at restaurants too, Like
at Subway, I know they're making the sandwich in front
of you, but that's kind of what you get paid
to do. Like when you get a job at Subway,
you kind of feel like making sandwiches is probably part
of your job description.

Speaker 6 (01:36:52):
That was my lunch today, and I kind of got
guilted and depressing the little ten percent.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
I saw something online that makes perfect sense to me. Here,
if you have to order your food standing up, you're
not getting a tip.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
If you have to order your food standing up, you're
not getting a tip. Put that on a T shirt.
Put that on a T shirt. We've got another hour
to go.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
Come on back