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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's been a little bit, but it's time for a
little caller roulette. Now again. This is where I have
no idea what these people on hold want to talk about,
no idea at all. Responsible shows normally have their producer
talk to whoever's calling in, find out what they want,
(00:28):
coach them up a little bit, tell them all the
important things. Turn your radio down. We don't do any
of that crap. We just put a bunch of people
on hold, and we're gonna just throw caution into the
wind here. This really is a bad idea if you
think about it. We're risking our number one rated program
for a bunch of people that we have no idea
(00:49):
what they're going to say. Now, if you're on hold,
do us a favor. Turn your radio down and keep
it brief. Other than that, let's light this candle up. First,
we're going to go to Cody. Cody, welcome to the
Hammer and Nigel Show. What's up, hey, guys.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
First off, love your show.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I want to talk about the roads in Indiana and
the absolute crap quality that they are. We have these
fIF highest gas tax in the nation as of July
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
And.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I just made the drive from Illinois into Indiana and
the roads are absolute garbage. What are we doing with
the money that we're supposed to be allocating towards roads.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh that's a great, great question, thank you, Cody. A
lot of the money makes its way into a thing
called the General Fund. No, not all of it, I know,
like the sports betting money and some of the lottery
money makes its way into the general Fund. Now, they
will tell you, they being the lawmakers, that the General
(01:48):
Fund is designed for whatever project is needed street repair
or fixing infrastructure. But what it really becomes is a
pet slush fund for the high ranking Republicans. So if
you're a mover and shaker in the Indiana Senate and
the swinebarn needs fixed at your local county fair, you
(02:13):
get to go to the general Fund. And you're right.
We are over taxed like a mother in this state.
It's not even close. And that's what makes me sick.
When these school districts put their hands out, well, these children,
they're going to starve to death. They're all going to
be shot in the hallway if you get any sort
of tax relief.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
They're all full of crap, Because Heaven forbid you actually
run a budget in the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right, you may have to make cuts like families have
to make cuts. So Cody, great call. Yeah, we should
have better roads, but the way we're taxed in Indiana.
But it's a mess, it's a hot mess. You're absolutely right.
Let me take regular Jeff on four Regular Jeff.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
My man, Hey, what the heck's up? Famer?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hey? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm sorry, Hey, look you guys. Normally I can hear
the show's still going on while I'm on hold, but
I am not on I'm on hold. But okay, So
I got a question for you Hammer with dot Naguilar.
I want you to go with your heart or your head.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Who do you.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Think is gonna win the Indian Alabama game? Now listen,
use your head on one answer and your heart on
the other.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, my heart will say anybody in the world over Alabama.
That's my heart exactly. My head pick you'll be able
to find for free on the Degenerates next Door podcast.
I do have a pick on a side. Now. Some
of the pro handicappers that we work with, they've got
to play on the game total the over under. I'm
(03:51):
on a side. So if you want to find out
who I've picked, and I believe another pro handicapper has
my same pick, Degenerate's next Door. It's been you know,
shared on our social media. Find it anywhere you get
your podcasts. I've got a free play on that as
well as the big NFL Steelers and Ravens game. So
(04:13):
thank you for that. And as for not being able
to hear when you're on hold, I don't know. I'm
just happy the phones are working right now. What do
you want me to do? Ian is up next? Ian
rock and Roll?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Hey, I just want to ask a question on what
your stance is on ICE people detained by ICE, because
there's a lot of hard working, you know, people out
there who are you know in jail that don't have
a chance to come work in the United States, And
(04:45):
I just wanted to know what the stance on that was.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, if you came to the United States illegally, I
feel like then you should be at some point asked
to leave. It's hard to get into this country. And
if you want to have a conversation about should we
make the process a little faster with the rise of AI,
with the way we can look into backgrounds and all
(05:08):
the technology. If you want to tell me there has
to be a faster way for legitimate, good people to
become naturalized citizens or citizens rather of the United States,
I'll listen to that. Okay, fine, but talk to the
people who have done it legally. It's a long process
and it ticks them off when people just walk across
(05:32):
and cut the corner. And look, not everybody walking across
the border is a drug dealer. They're not all selling fentanyl.
I get it, But there are rules, there are regulations.
You have to keep these rules and regulations in place
or you don't have a country and you don't have
a border. Now, if you're telling me, I've got a
(05:52):
room full of ten people that have all come across
the border. Five of them are human traffickers, three of
them them or drug dealers, and two of them are
just people that want to start a better life in America.
I do feel like there should be a pecking order, right,
get the criminals out first. But the real reality is
(06:15):
you kind of committed a crime when you entered the
country illegally. So I'm not gonna shed a bunch of
tears for those saying, well, we didn't do anything wrong,
Well kind of did. But again, separate conversation. If you
want to have a talk about, with the rise of
technology and AI, should it be quicker to get good
(06:39):
immigrants into the United States. I'll have that conversation. All right,
let's go to line three. David as standing by David.
What's up?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hey, how are you guys today? You're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So I just wondered if our mayor and the traffic
engineers got to get it, had a double or triple
kager to figure out how to screw up Michigan and
New York Street. They've created more accidents and more people
struck by vehicle than you could imagine.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, well, if you're asking if our mayor here in
India was involved in any sort of alcohol induced decision making,
I'm gonna air on the side of probably probably. That's
how it works. It's a mess. You're right, And I
say this not because I'm trying to be over the
top or a smartass. You look at downtown, we look
(07:35):
like Detroit. We look like everything we used to make
fun of. A bunch of construction that is going on
forever that's never done, horrible road conditions, homeless people everywhere
you go. We've become what we used to make fun
of in Indianapolis. We've become Detroit.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, trying to drive downtown in itself is just horrible now,
especially if you're going anywhere remotely close to the five
o'clock hour. Just all of this construction on I beieve
it's like sixty nine south over here, that split being
under construction, and it's been under construction forever, and it's
making everything horrible just trying to get in and out
of downtown right now.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And I feel for some of the businesses right because
they probably thought there might be a little construction. But
like Tom's Watch Bar. Now, I don't know the Tom
Watch Bar people, but I'm willing to bet when they
agreed to open up their bar right there, they probably
didn't think that the main street where all of their
foot traffic was going to be coming in would be
(08:35):
closed for like two and a half years. Like that sucks.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I guarantee they were probably told he was gonna be oh, yeah,
we'll have it done within a couple months. And here
we are almost two years later.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Streets are still closed. But government fund at Hotel hot Damn,
that thing's going up like a rocket ship. Everything else Detroit.
Let's go to line number two. Steve is standing by Steve.
What's up man?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (09:00):
So I was listening to the show and the guy
that all called in about the roads kind of tripped
my trigger a little bit. Yeah, that's an overstatement. But
I'm fifty eight years old and my family's from down
around Lake Cumberland, Kentucky. My parents raised me up here,
so we've made that drive on I sixty five South
many many times. And I was just telling my daughter,
who's seventeen. I was like, seems like over well over
(09:23):
thirty five years, this stretch of road has always been
under work. And she said, what do you think that is?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Dad?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
And I said, well, I'm a little close to politics
on some level. I'm surprised they invite me back to
the party because I feel like form and that's just
by the Black Panther Party, right, you know, I said,
you know, there's got to be some kind of mismanagement,
like is it a jobs program? Does it make unemployment
numbers look better? Does it keep voters happier? If we've
always got good paying jobs in the works with road
(09:51):
workers and nothing against them, but you go into Kentucky.
The roads have been pristine for twenty five years. Same thing.
You go north, it's the same thing. So I just
wanted to come and empathize on that note. And that's
something that I've always felt, and your platform seemed to
be a good place for me to second that motion, Steve.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I appreciate that, brother, Thank you so much. And the
thing that bothers me is that now politicians aren't held
accountable for the way they've handled the roads like in
the past. You would expect if it's an election year,
the incumbent, if it's an incumbent mayor, boy, he's going
to really make sure the roads are clean and patched
(10:32):
up and infrastructure is good, because that's what happens in
an election year. We're lucky if our mayor in Indianapolis
is even sober and awake. That's what the bar is
at right now. And don't forget he's still very much
being questioned about sexual harassment things taking place in his office.
He's a dumpster fire of a man, he's a dumpster
(10:53):
fire of a human being, but he keeps getting elected
with sixty percent of.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
The vote, right, and it's all over the state. I
love we experienced when we went to a Cubs and
Reds game this past year. You drive just to any
other state. As soon as you hit the border to Ohio, Illinois, Kentucky,
bumpy road, bumpy road, smooth, no construction. Right when we
came back, the first thing that greeted us into Indiana,
it wasn't a welcome to Indiana sign, It was a
(11:18):
road construction ahead for the next seven and so miles
in horrible road conditions.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And it was the awful welcome to Indiana signed tist.
The new one sucks.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I hate the new one.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, bring back the Crossroads of America because that's what
we are. I'm with Andrew Ireland on this one. That
is the goat of Indiana welcome signs. The stupid blue
one that Holcom made sucks. All right? Do we have
Charles standing by for the last one? Charles, you get
the final word. In twenty twenty five on Caller Roulette,
go ahead, Charles.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Yeah, I forget you got that delayed effect. He get
all your equipped to going there. You're on like he
was mentioned, ohy, she was have waymen. I didn't turn
the radio off because you can't hear the guy when
you're on hold? Was again, Hold on a second here, I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
All right, thank you, Charles, And that puts a bow
tie on Caller Roulette in twenty twenty five. I knew
that's how we were gonna go out. I absolutely just
knew it. When I saw that Charles was going to
be in the mix here, I thought, all right, I'm
gonna give my guy a chance here. And I like Charles.
Charles has got a lot of energy. But if I
come to you, I don't need a lecture on what's
(12:28):
not working. I'm aware, right, I've been yelling and fighting
behind the scenes. We're well aware, and I hate that
that's the way we're going to go out. Is there
anybody else on hold? Kurt? Is there anybody else? Can
we just take one live? Let's take one live. It's ringing.
I can't go out like that, all right, just pick
it up. Welcome to the hammer In Nigel Show. You
are live on the air. Who is this? My name
(12:51):
is Matt, Matt, my man, Matt. All right, we're gonna
try to give you the final word on Caller Roulette.
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Well, first of all, I wanted to talk about the
Rose Bowl being born and raised in Oklahoma. I am
really disappointed that the Sooners let up and let Alabama in,
but my daughter and my money went to Bloomington for
four years. So I am all in Indiana. Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
There you go, There you go. Now, that is how
you put a cap on cal roulette. For twenty twenty five,
it's The Hammer and Nigel Show.
Show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's been a little bit, but it's time for a
little caller roulette. Now again. This is where I have
no idea what these people on hold want to talk about,
no idea at all. Responsible shows normally have their producer
talk to whoever's calling in, find out what they want,
(00:28):
coach them up a little bit, tell them all the
important things. Turn your radio down. We don't do any
of that crap. We just put a bunch of people
on hold, and we're gonna just throw caution into the
wind here. This really is a bad idea if you
think about it. We're risking our number one rated program
for a bunch of people that we have no idea
(00:49):
what they're going to say. Now, if you're on hold,
do us a favor. Turn your radio down and keep
it brief. Other than that, let's light this candle up. First,
we're going to go to Cody. Cody, welcome to the
Hammer and Nigel Show. What's up, hey, guys.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
First off, love your show.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I want to talk about the roads in Indiana and
the absolute crap quality that they are. We have these
fIF highest gas tax in the nation as of July
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
And.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I just made the drive from Illinois into Indiana and
the roads are absolute garbage. What are we doing with
the money that we're supposed to be allocating towards roads.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh that's a great, great question, thank you, Cody. A
lot of the money makes its way into a thing
called the General Fund. No, not all of it, I know,
like the sports betting money and some of the lottery
money makes its way into the general Fund. Now, they
will tell you, they being the lawmakers, that the General
(01:48):
Fund is designed for whatever project is needed street repair
or fixing infrastructure. But what it really becomes is a
pet slush fund for the high ranking Republicans. So if
you're a mover and shaker in the Indiana Senate and
the swinebarn needs fixed at your local county fair, you
(02:13):
get to go to the general Fund. And you're right.
We are over taxed like a mother in this state.
It's not even close. And that's what makes me sick.
When these school districts put their hands out, well, these children,
they're going to starve to death. They're all going to
be shot in the hallway if you get any sort
of tax relief.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
They're all full of crap, Because Heaven forbid you actually
run a budget in the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right, you may have to make cuts like families have
to make cuts. So Cody, great call. Yeah, we should
have better roads, but the way we're taxed in Indiana.
But it's a mess, it's a hot mess. You're absolutely right.
Let me take regular Jeff on four Regular Jeff.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
My man, Hey, what the heck's up? Famer?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hey? How you doing?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm sorry, Hey, look you guys. Normally I can hear
the show's still going on while I'm on hold, but
I am not on I'm on hold. But okay, So
I got a question for you Hammer with dot Naguilar.
I want you to go with your heart or your head.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Who do you.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Think is gonna win the Indian Alabama game? Now listen,
use your head on one answer and your heart on
the other.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, my heart will say anybody in the world over Alabama.
That's my heart exactly. My head pick you'll be able
to find for free on the Degenerates next Door podcast.
I do have a pick on a side. Now. Some
of the pro handicappers that we work with, they've got
to play on the game total the over under. I'm
(03:51):
on a side. So if you want to find out
who I've picked, and I believe another pro handicapper has
my same pick, Degenerate's next Door. It's been you know,
shared on our social media. Find it anywhere you get
your podcasts. I've got a free play on that as
well as the big NFL Steelers and Ravens game. So
(04:13):
thank you for that. And as for not being able
to hear when you're on hold, I don't know. I'm
just happy the phones are working right now. What do
you want me to do? Ian is up next? Ian
rock and Roll?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Hey, I just want to ask a question on what
your stance is on ICE people detained by ICE, because
there's a lot of hard working, you know, people out
there who are you know in jail that don't have
a chance to come work in the United States, And
(04:45):
I just wanted to know what the stance on that was.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, if you came to the United States illegally, I
feel like then you should be at some point asked
to leave. It's hard to get into this country. And
if you want to have a conversation about should we
make the process a little faster with the rise of AI,
with the way we can look into backgrounds and all
(05:08):
the technology. If you want to tell me there has
to be a faster way for legitimate, good people to
become naturalized citizens or citizens rather of the United States,
I'll listen to that. Okay, fine, but talk to the
people who have done it legally. It's a long process
and it ticks them off when people just walk across
(05:32):
and cut the corner. And look, not everybody walking across
the border is a drug dealer. They're not all selling fentanyl.
I get it, But there are rules, there are regulations.
You have to keep these rules and regulations in place
or you don't have a country and you don't have
a border. Now, if you're telling me, I've got a
(05:52):
room full of ten people that have all come across
the border. Five of them are human traffickers, three of
them them or drug dealers, and two of them are
just people that want to start a better life in America.
I do feel like there should be a pecking order, right,
get the criminals out first. But the real reality is
(06:15):
you kind of committed a crime when you entered the
country illegally. So I'm not gonna shed a bunch of
tears for those saying, well, we didn't do anything wrong,
Well kind of did. But again, separate conversation. If you
want to have a talk about, with the rise of
technology and AI, should it be quicker to get good
(06:39):
immigrants into the United States. I'll have that conversation. All right,
let's go to line three. David as standing by David.
What's up?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hey, how are you guys today? You're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So I just wondered if our mayor and the traffic
engineers got to get it, had a double or triple
kager to figure out how to screw up Michigan and
New York Street. They've created more accidents and more people
struck by vehicle than you could imagine.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, well, if you're asking if our mayor here in
India was involved in any sort of alcohol induced decision making,
I'm gonna air on the side of probably probably. That's
how it works. It's a mess. You're right, And I
say this not because I'm trying to be over the
top or a smartass. You look at downtown, we look
(07:35):
like Detroit. We look like everything we used to make
fun of. A bunch of construction that is going on
forever that's never done, horrible road conditions, homeless people everywhere
you go. We've become what we used to make fun
of in Indianapolis. We've become Detroit.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, trying to drive downtown in itself is just horrible now,
especially if you're going anywhere remotely close to the five
o'clock hour. Just all of this construction on I beieve
it's like sixty nine south over here, that split being
under construction, and it's been under construction forever, and it's
making everything horrible just trying to get in and out
of downtown right now.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And I feel for some of the businesses right because
they probably thought there might be a little construction. But
like Tom's Watch Bar. Now, I don't know the Tom
Watch Bar people, but I'm willing to bet when they
agreed to open up their bar right there, they probably
didn't think that the main street where all of their
foot traffic was going to be coming in would be
(08:35):
closed for like two and a half years. Like that sucks.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I guarantee they were probably told he was gonna be oh, yeah,
we'll have it done within a couple months. And here
we are almost two years later.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Streets are still closed. But government fund at Hotel hot Damn,
that thing's going up like a rocket ship. Everything else Detroit.
Let's go to line number two. Steve is standing by Steve.
What's up man?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (09:00):
So I was listening to the show and the guy
that all called in about the roads kind of tripped
my trigger a little bit. Yeah, that's an overstatement. But
I'm fifty eight years old and my family's from down
around Lake Cumberland, Kentucky. My parents raised me up here,
so we've made that drive on I sixty five South
many many times. And I was just telling my daughter,
who's seventeen. I was like, seems like over well over
(09:23):
thirty five years, this stretch of road has always been
under work. And she said, what do you think that is?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Dad?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
And I said, well, I'm a little close to politics
on some level. I'm surprised they invite me back to
the party because I feel like form and that's just
by the Black Panther Party, right, you know, I said,
you know, there's got to be some kind of mismanagement,
like is it a jobs program? Does it make unemployment
numbers look better? Does it keep voters happier? If we've
always got good paying jobs in the works with road
(09:51):
workers and nothing against them, but you go into Kentucky.
The roads have been pristine for twenty five years. Same thing.
You go north, it's the same thing. So I just
wanted to come and empathize on that note. And that's
something that I've always felt, and your platform seemed to
be a good place for me to second that motion, Steve.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I appreciate that, brother, Thank you so much. And the
thing that bothers me is that now politicians aren't held
accountable for the way they've handled the roads like in
the past. You would expect if it's an election year,
the incumbent, if it's an incumbent mayor, boy, he's going
to really make sure the roads are clean and patched
(10:32):
up and infrastructure is good, because that's what happens in
an election year. We're lucky if our mayor in Indianapolis
is even sober and awake. That's what the bar is
at right now. And don't forget he's still very much
being questioned about sexual harassment things taking place in his office.
He's a dumpster fire of a man, he's a dumpster
(10:53):
fire of a human being, but he keeps getting elected
with sixty percent of.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
The vote, right, and it's all over the state. I
love we experienced when we went to a Cubs and
Reds game this past year. You drive just to any
other state. As soon as you hit the border to Ohio, Illinois, Kentucky,
bumpy road, bumpy road, smooth, no construction. Right when we
came back, the first thing that greeted us into Indiana,
it wasn't a welcome to Indiana sign, It was a
(11:18):
road construction ahead for the next seven and so miles
in horrible road conditions.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And it was the awful welcome to Indiana signed tist.
The new one sucks.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I hate the new one.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, bring back the Crossroads of America because that's what
we are. I'm with Andrew Ireland on this one. That
is the goat of Indiana welcome signs. The stupid blue
one that Holcom made sucks. All right? Do we have
Charles standing by for the last one? Charles, you get
the final word. In twenty twenty five on Caller Roulette,
go ahead, Charles.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Yeah, I forget you got that delayed effect. He get
all your equipped to going there. You're on like he
was mentioned, ohy, she was have waymen. I didn't turn
the radio off because you can't hear the guy when
you're on hold? Was again, Hold on a second here, I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
All right, thank you, Charles, And that puts a bow
tie on Caller Roulette in twenty twenty five. I knew
that's how we were gonna go out. I absolutely just
knew it. When I saw that Charles was going to
be in the mix here, I thought, all right, I'm
gonna give my guy a chance here. And I like Charles.
Charles has got a lot of energy. But if I
come to you, I don't need a lecture on what's
(12:28):
not working. I'm aware, right, I've been yelling and fighting
behind the scenes. We're well aware, and I hate that
that's the way we're going to go out. Is there
anybody else on hold? Kurt? Is there anybody else? Can
we just take one live? Let's take one live. It's ringing.
I can't go out like that, all right, just pick
it up. Welcome to the hammer In Nigel Show. You
are live on the air. Who is this? My name
(12:51):
is Matt, Matt, my man, Matt. All right, we're gonna
try to give you the final word on Caller Roulette.
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Well, first of all, I wanted to talk about the
Rose Bowl being born and raised in Oklahoma. I am
really disappointed that the Sooners let up and let Alabama in,
but my daughter and my money went to Bloomington for
four years. So I am all in Indiana. Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
There you go, There you go. Now, that is how
you put a cap on cal roulette. For twenty twenty five,
it's The Hammer and Nigel Show.
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