July 29, 2025 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with
a very special studio guests.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
He has been a writer for some of your favorite
television programs, including The Late Show with David Letterman. He
is a Hoosier and back when he was at IU,
he finished third in the Torking Championships. Jeff Boggs is
with us. How are you, my.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Friend, guys. I'm doing great, but this weather is ridiculous.
I don't know if you guys are affected by the heat,
but I have been affected by this heat the last week.
This is about as hot and humid as I've ever
felt it. As a matter of fact, when I was
parking today, I parked down on the circle and I
walked right past a it's so hot in Indianapolis right now.
I just walked past a squirrel icing down his own nuts.
(00:46):
I don't know that's an old Letterman joke. I wanted
to get it out, but then I looked at Nigel
and I strewed it up and whatever. Nuts.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
First of all, this is the first time I've ever
seen you wearing shorts. I could tell it. Todd, what
do you think I've known you for what eight months? Now?
What do I think about you wearing shorts?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Just overall?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
They need to be Look, my wife redid my wardrobe.
My shorts are now. They need to be above the knee,
they need to be a little tighter, they need to
be like John stocktonesh Okay, so just my suggestion. I've
never seen. It's always I texted you today. As a
matter of fact, it was creepy. You said, I can't
(01:25):
I can't wait to see what you're wearing today.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Which is true, and I've retweeted that at Hammer and Nigel.
I feel like this whole conversation is odd because like normally,
when guys get together, oh hey, what's up man, how
you doing, you guys talk about your shorts, and I
find that to be incredibly weird.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm not talking about a shorts. Nigel said to me, well,
they should be over the knee and a little looser.
They're a little bunchie. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Bob's always text me when he fills in for you.
He goes, hey, by the way, try to wear something
nice to work today.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yes, that is a like I kind of offended by that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you sound like my wife because she looks at
me and she goes, you're leaving the house like that.
I go, I'm on the radio. I'm not on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I talked to Nigel's wife last weekend. That's right on
the phone. Nigel and his wife called me because they
had a question about a movie they were watching. And
I really enjoyed talking to your wife because she seemed
awesome and we both agreed there's something wrong with here.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I've been fighting these battles for eight years now, Jeff, Well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
This is here my first time talking to Nigel's wife.
They had a question about it. They're watching a movie
called In Her Shoes, Yes, which is the movie that
my girlfriend, Molly's sister wrote the book Yeah, and it's
about Molly and her sister, and my wife has read
several of her books.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But Nigel, I've explained this to you for eight months
and you're still calling up going no, which one is Mollie?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Who is it?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And your wife, God bless her, got on the phone
and said, I don't know what to do anymore. I
don't know what to tell Nigel. It's very basic what's happening.
So it was a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
With the wife movie. But and she's read your sister's
sisters or your spouse's sister's books. So if we had.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
A dollar for every time missus Nyge just said, I
don't know what to do with it at this point,
we'd be wealthy.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Then I had the guy from the she was setting
up a dog grooming appointment this week, and the guy
I could hear him on the speakerphone, just taking down,
like you know, because Junior is a puppy and getting
in the haircut. And he goes, so, what's your first name, Lindsey,
last name Leskowski and that there was a long pause,
and I could hear on the speakerphone. So I've taken
(03:33):
a nap on the couch. She goes, are you Nigel's wife?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And she goes maybe, and he goes. She goes, do
you know him? And he goes nope. I just listened
to the show and Hammer. Hammer always says he can't believe,
he can't believe that you're married to him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
True, she's a saint. She is a saint among women.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I second that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So yeah, to cap off this very awkward introduction to
this segment. Great moments in shorts history. Yes, when you
were gone one of your vacation days. Bogs filled in
for you and it was a Friday where Matt Bear
had joined us. And you want to talk about a
guy that wears John Stockton shorts. Oh yeah, Matt Bear shorts.
Don't leave anything to the imagination. And that's when we
(04:21):
put this song together. It's a little collaboration between myself
and Jeff. We were listening to a lot of fountains
of Wayne. You have put this together.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
A great band, underrated.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Matt Bear shorts have got it going on. Matt Bear
shorts have got it going on.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Matt Bear does the traffic gonlu RADI, oh oh oh
rady when you drive in New Work, he tells you
which way to go, oh oh.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Which way to go.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But lately something it's changed with the close he way.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Years close he wears. The long pants are gone and.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
We're seeing some hair, seeing some hair.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, the weather's not as cold as he used to be.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Here we go and Matt broke out.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
His leg guns for all the world to see.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Come on, Matt Bear shorts.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Of God, he's walking in the hall and his thighs.
I have in fun, Nigel, can't you see Matt Bear
legs good to me Hr says it's wrong, but Matt
Bear's got.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
His short shorts on, Matt Fair.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Shorts as the first time I've heard that a very shorts.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I can see Matt Bear in the traffic center, laughing
his ass.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I always knew Matt Bear was crazy, but in those shorts,
I can clearly see he's nuts too.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And we were talking tent cities to open up the
big show today. Something you have seen firsthand living out
in California.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I did. I mean, I was, you know, out in
LA for twenty four years, so I kind of saw
what happened. When you start in La downtown in skid Row,
it's a ten square block section. You know, nobody goes there,
so it's okay to have tons of homeless people there.
The problem is LA about fifteen twenty years ago, started
(06:24):
letting these tents, these homeless people move out to other areas,
North Hollywood, Sherman Oaks, Santa Monica. It overtook the city
in no time whatsoever. And what happened was they didn't
get rid of them. They would clean them out once
a month and then three days later they would all
come back. And so I'm interested to see with Fountain Square.
(06:47):
You know what I've been hearing you're reporting and the things.
Who cares about what people are saying now? I think
August eighth is when they're tearing it eleventh, August eleventh,
all right, you come on August fifteenth, I'm sorry, August
twenty fifth, and let us know if they're back, because
if the plan is we're going to clear it out,
but we're not going to do anything afterwards. That's the
LA plan and LA spent I don't know, eleven billion
(07:11):
dollars to fight homelessness, and they have more homeless people
now than they did when they spent that eleven billion dollars.
So if there's no plan to actually make it end
for good, then it's just hearsay. And that is the
Democrats plan.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You don't like the plan of moving this group to
like the old airport area or something like.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That will never work. That nobody, none of the homeless people.
And it sucks because you sound like such a jerk
when you're talking about it. You're heartless. The homeless people
don't want to be out yeah, where there's nothing by
there and there's no people walking past that can help
them out with money. It's just it's a fact. They
don't want to be there. Why do you think such
(07:50):
a large congregation of homeless people live in Hollywood? You
know you could, you could live in other places that
are that are nice and the weather is better and
it's not dirty. They want to be in Hollywood because
there's a lot of people in Hollywood and there's stuff
going on. So August twenty fifth, I say, everybody reconvene
and let's see if the tents are back in Fountain Square.
And if they are, then all of this is just
(08:12):
a bunch of bs.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Got about two minutes left here, But I want to
get your reaction to Letterman and Leno. They have each
spoken out about what happened to Stephen Colbert and his low,
low rated program that apparently cost an awful lot of
money to put on. Letterman says, it's not about the money,
I e. It's political based. Leno had a different approach.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, Leno came out, and it's so weird because you
grew up. You know, it's jets and sharks, it's Indiana
Purdue Letterman Leno. I was Letterman, So everything Jay Leno
did I couldn't stand. But lately. I love what Leno
came out and said. He goes, I like to think
that people come to a comedy show to kind of
get away from things, and then he finished with why
shoot for just half an audience? Why not try to
(08:58):
get the whole audience? He doesn't want these comedians to
get so political. Dave's comment made no sense. It wasn't
about the money. It was about something else. It's about
the money. They can't you know it costs two hundred
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I think Dave was saying, if it was about the money,
cancel it right now. Why let it run on for ten.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
More months because they have That's an interesting question, but
Dave knows the answer. They have nothing to fill it with.
They can't just cancel a show with ten months left.
I know Colbert's gonna wait about four to five more
months and then get himself fired to save face. But
what are they gonna do. They can't just run reruns.
(09:37):
They're gonna create. So right now, what they're doing, I
guarantee they're trying to come up with some version of
the Great Gutfeld Show, something a little newsy, something with
a little comedy, and they're gonna try to find people
who don't piss off half the country. But for now,
what Dave said didn't make sense. It's all about the money.
They can't keep losing that much money, and now that
(09:58):
those US AID funds are starting to run out all
that money that who knows how Hollywood stayed in business
the last ten years. I think we're starting to find
out a lot of it was our tax dollars, and
people should be kind of angry about that. Hopefully more
of these shows will start getting canceled when they can't
make sense of how horrible their ratings are.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's going to be the headline. Former writer says, more
of these shows hopefully get canceled.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, you know, and listen pretty much. I worked at
the Late Show that's been now canceled, the.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Whole brand, the whole brand.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I worked at the Shell station on eighty second in
Bash that blew up. And I worked at Flaky Jake's
restaurant in castled In and that entire chain is gone,
So who wants me to work somewhere next? So it'll
go away.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
He's an American treasurer. He is Jeff Boggs. Find him
on social media and not Kenny Rogers my Man. We
appreciate it, Thanks Jeff, Thanks guys,
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with
a very special studio guests.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
He has been a writer for some of your favorite
television programs, including The Late Show with David Letterman. He
is a Hoosier and back when he was at IU,
he finished third in the Torking Championships. Jeff Boggs is
with us. How are you, my.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Friend, guys. I'm doing great, but this weather is ridiculous.
I don't know if you guys are affected by the heat,
but I have been affected by this heat the last week.
This is about as hot and humid as I've ever
felt it. As a matter of fact, when I was
parking today, I parked down on the circle and I
walked right past a it's so hot in Indianapolis right now.
I just walked past a squirrel icing down his own nuts.
(00:46):
I don't know that's an old Letterman joke. I wanted
to get it out, but then I looked at Nigel
and I strewed it up and whatever. Nuts.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
First of all, this is the first time I've ever
seen you wearing shorts. I could tell it. Todd, what
do you think I've known you for what eight months? Now?
What do I think about you wearing shorts?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Just overall?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
They need to be Look, my wife redid my wardrobe.
My shorts are now. They need to be above the knee,
they need to be a little tighter, they need to
be like John stocktonesh Okay, so just my suggestion. I've
never seen. It's always I texted you today. As a
matter of fact, it was creepy. You said, I can't
(01:25):
I can't wait to see what you're wearing today.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Which is true, and I've retweeted that at Hammer and Nigel.
I feel like this whole conversation is odd because like normally,
when guys get together, oh hey, what's up man, how
you doing, you guys talk about your shorts, and I
find that to be incredibly weird.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm not talking about a shorts. Nigel said to me, well,
they should be over the knee and a little looser.
They're a little bunchie. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Bob's always text me when he fills in for you.
He goes, hey, by the way, try to wear something
nice to work today.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yes, that is a like I kind of offended by that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you sound like my wife because she looks at
me and she goes, you're leaving the house like that.
I go, I'm on the radio. I'm not on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I talked to Nigel's wife last weekend. That's right on
the phone. Nigel and his wife called me because they
had a question about a movie they were watching. And
I really enjoyed talking to your wife because she seemed
awesome and we both agreed there's something wrong with here.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I've been fighting these battles for eight years now, Jeff, Well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
This is here my first time talking to Nigel's wife.
They had a question about it. They're watching a movie
called In Her Shoes, Yes, which is the movie that
my girlfriend, Molly's sister wrote the book Yeah, and it's
about Molly and her sister, and my wife has read
several of her books.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But Nigel, I've explained this to you for eight months
and you're still calling up going no, which one is Mollie?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Who is it?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And your wife, God bless her, got on the phone
and said, I don't know what to do anymore. I
don't know what to tell Nigel. It's very basic what's happening.
So it was a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
With the wife movie. But and she's read your sister's
sisters or your spouse's sister's books. So if we had.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
A dollar for every time missus Nyge just said, I
don't know what to do with it at this point,
we'd be wealthy.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Then I had the guy from the she was setting
up a dog grooming appointment this week, and the guy
I could hear him on the speakerphone, just taking down,
like you know, because Junior is a puppy and getting
in the haircut. And he goes, so, what's your first name, Lindsey,
last name Leskowski and that there was a long pause,
and I could hear on the speakerphone. So I've taken
(03:33):
a nap on the couch. She goes, are you Nigel's wife?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And she goes maybe, and he goes. She goes, do
you know him? And he goes nope. I just listened
to the show and Hammer. Hammer always says he can't believe,
he can't believe that you're married to him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
True, she's a saint. She is a saint among women.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I second that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So yeah, to cap off this very awkward introduction to
this segment. Great moments in shorts history. Yes, when you
were gone one of your vacation days. Bogs filled in
for you and it was a Friday where Matt Bear
had joined us. And you want to talk about a
guy that wears John Stockton shorts. Oh yeah, Matt Bear shorts.
Don't leave anything to the imagination. And that's when we
(04:21):
put this song together. It's a little collaboration between myself
and Jeff. We were listening to a lot of fountains
of Wayne. You have put this together.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
A great band, underrated.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Matt Bear shorts have got it going on. Matt Bear
shorts have got it going on.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Matt Bear does the traffic gonlu RADI, oh oh oh
rady when you drive in New Work, he tells you
which way to go, oh oh.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Which way to go.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But lately something it's changed with the close he way.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Years close he wears. The long pants are gone and.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
We're seeing some hair, seeing some hair.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, the weather's not as cold as he used to be.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Here we go and Matt broke out.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
His leg guns for all the world to see.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Come on, Matt Bear shorts.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Of God, he's walking in the hall and his thighs.
I have in fun, Nigel, can't you see Matt Bear
legs good to me Hr says it's wrong, but Matt
Bear's got.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
His short shorts on, Matt Fair.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Shorts as the first time I've heard that a very shorts.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I can see Matt Bear in the traffic center, laughing
his ass.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I always knew Matt Bear was crazy, but in those shorts,
I can clearly see he's nuts too.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And we were talking tent cities to open up the
big show today. Something you have seen firsthand living out
in California.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I did. I mean, I was, you know, out in
LA for twenty four years, so I kind of saw
what happened. When you start in La downtown in skid Row,
it's a ten square block section. You know, nobody goes there,
so it's okay to have tons of homeless people there.
The problem is LA about fifteen twenty years ago, started
(06:24):
letting these tents, these homeless people move out to other areas,
North Hollywood, Sherman Oaks, Santa Monica. It overtook the city
in no time whatsoever. And what happened was they didn't
get rid of them. They would clean them out once
a month and then three days later they would all
come back. And so I'm interested to see with Fountain Square.
(06:47):
You know what I've been hearing you're reporting and the things.
Who cares about what people are saying now? I think
August eighth is when they're tearing it eleventh, August eleventh,
all right, you come on August fifteenth, I'm sorry, August
twenty fifth, and let us know if they're back, because
if the plan is we're going to clear it out,
but we're not going to do anything afterwards. That's the
LA plan and LA spent I don't know, eleven billion
(07:11):
dollars to fight homelessness, and they have more homeless people
now than they did when they spent that eleven billion dollars.
So if there's no plan to actually make it end
for good, then it's just hearsay. And that is the
Democrats plan.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You don't like the plan of moving this group to
like the old airport area or something like.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That will never work. That nobody, none of the homeless people.
And it sucks because you sound like such a jerk
when you're talking about it. You're heartless. The homeless people
don't want to be out yeah, where there's nothing by
there and there's no people walking past that can help
them out with money. It's just it's a fact. They
don't want to be there. Why do you think such
(07:50):
a large congregation of homeless people live in Hollywood? You
know you could, you could live in other places that
are that are nice and the weather is better and
it's not dirty. They want to be in Hollywood because
there's a lot of people in Hollywood and there's stuff
going on. So August twenty fifth, I say, everybody reconvene
and let's see if the tents are back in Fountain Square.
And if they are, then all of this is just
(08:12):
a bunch of bs.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Got about two minutes left here, But I want to
get your reaction to Letterman and Leno. They have each
spoken out about what happened to Stephen Colbert and his low,
low rated program that apparently cost an awful lot of
money to put on. Letterman says, it's not about the money,
I e. It's political based. Leno had a different approach.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, Leno came out, and it's so weird because you
grew up. You know, it's jets and sharks, it's Indiana
Purdue Letterman Leno. I was Letterman, So everything Jay Leno
did I couldn't stand. But lately. I love what Leno
came out and said. He goes, I like to think
that people come to a comedy show to kind of
get away from things, and then he finished with why
shoot for just half an audience? Why not try to
(08:58):
get the whole audience? He doesn't want these comedians to
get so political. Dave's comment made no sense. It wasn't
about the money. It was about something else. It's about
the money. They can't you know it costs two hundred
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I think Dave was saying, if it was about the money,
cancel it right now. Why let it run on for ten.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
More months because they have That's an interesting question, but
Dave knows the answer. They have nothing to fill it with.
They can't just cancel a show with ten months left.
I know Colbert's gonna wait about four to five more
months and then get himself fired to save face. But
what are they gonna do. They can't just run reruns.
(09:37):
They're gonna create. So right now, what they're doing, I
guarantee they're trying to come up with some version of
the Great Gutfeld Show, something a little newsy, something with
a little comedy, and they're gonna try to find people
who don't piss off half the country. But for now,
what Dave said didn't make sense. It's all about the money.
They can't keep losing that much money, and now that
(09:58):
those US AID funds are starting to run out all
that money that who knows how Hollywood stayed in business
the last ten years. I think we're starting to find
out a lot of it was our tax dollars, and
people should be kind of angry about that. Hopefully more
of these shows will start getting canceled when they can't
make sense of how horrible their ratings are.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's going to be the headline. Former writer says, more
of these shows hopefully get canceled.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, you know, and listen pretty much. I worked at
the Late Show that's been now canceled, the.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Whole brand, the whole brand.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I worked at the Shell station on eighty second in
Bash that blew up. And I worked at Flaky Jake's
restaurant in castled In and that entire chain is gone,
So who wants me to work somewhere next? So it'll
go away.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
He's an American treasurer. He is Jeff Boggs. Find him
on social media and not Kenny Rogers my Man. We
appreciate it, Thanks Jeff, Thanks guys,
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