July 28, 2025 • 12 mins
Guy Relford, "The Gun Guy," joins the show for Monday Gunday!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The only way to bag a classy lady is to
give her two tickets to the gun show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This Monday Gun Day with the gun just watch out
with the guns. The guy stop calling your arms, Gunny.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
None of his. Nigel dasent Hammer is here also live
in studio, The gun Guy Guy Ralford hosts of the
Gun Guys Show Saturdays on ninety three w IBC Licensed
Firearms Instructor to a attorney, Guy, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm great and thanks as always to our sponsor for
Monday Gun Day. That's Premier Arms in Brownsburg with the
largest selection of new use and historic firearms in the
Midwest and PA Jewelers located in the farmhouse right out front.
Check them out thirty seven and fifty four South Green
Street in Brownsburg or Premier Arms dot com.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Want to start out with something just a little dark.
We don't have to dwell on this at all for
any you know, we could just talk about this and
move on. But I after church on Sunday, went with
my grandma and my my dad and his wife and
my wife, my kids to out to eat out out
to lunch place on four twenty one. It's it's kind
(01:10):
of my stone Creek. I forget what it is, but
they serve like really good banana cream pie.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You're talking about it a dessert place, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
They serve Nigel's bananas.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
YEAHA. But this woman walks in, but they serve like like,
you know, club sandwiches and stuff too. So this woman
walks in like she looks like a grandma, and she's
wearing a purple shirt. On the back of her shirt,
I've never it said quote pro life looks like twenty
(01:42):
Sandy Hook students starting high school this year. Yeah, and
that I I had a reaction. I didn't say anything
to her. I was with my grandma, I was with
my family. I've never said anything to anybody who out
shirts and statements they were wearing. But I almost wanted
(02:05):
to go up to her and say, that is the
most despicable thing I've ever seen. Some lady not only
standing on the backs of grieving parents and dead kids
perpetuating a gun grabbing, anti gun narrative, but also there
was a pro life element, pro you know, abortion element
(02:28):
in that shirt, and I almost I almost just wanted
to go up to it and say, that is the
most despicable thing I've ever heard, and this is the
reality that we're dealing with now. I don't know her background.
I don't know if she's had a victim of somebody
that's been shot by a gun. I don't know, but
to wear the let me read this again, pro life
(02:52):
looks like twenty Sandy hook students starting high school this year.
I wanted to flip it ruined it kind of like
ruined my lunch with my family. Yeah, and this is
the this is the mindset of the people that you
deal with.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is the mindset. And believe me, I'm down to
State House and we have the Mom's Demand Action ladies
in there, and and I'm kind of a target or
a focal point for a lot of their their ire
on social media and otherwise. I took a lot of
that this weekend. But you know, seeing that shirt, I mean,
first of all, is there anybody in the known universe
(03:29):
who wouldn't want to see those twenty kids murdered at
Sandy Hooks, you know, starting high school right now? I mean,
and to suggest that anybody feels otherwise, of course, is disgusting.
And that's what hits you, you know, so below the
belt and why it's ridiculous. But at the same time,
there's obviously a message there that she's saying that there
should be laws in place that would have prevented the
(03:52):
Sandy Hook shooting and therefore saved those kids' lives and
would have then allowed them to be starting high school.
That's what the suggestion is, right, pro life. You know
that we're talking about it's a political debate. We're talking
about laws. We're talking about legislation, and I want to
know what law. And this is what it always comes
down to. These people come out at you with with
emotion and fear and guilt any.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Other emotionally, that's emotionally guilt.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
But logic has to respond in the sense to say,
what law in place would prevent a psychotic kid from
killing his mother, stealing her rifle that she legally bought,
then going to a school and violating who knows how
many other laws, including the law against osay murder, possession
of a firearm on school property, any number of other laws.
(04:42):
What law in place is this woman, this woman indirectly suggesting,
would have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting. That's what they
can never answer. And when I'm in committee hearings of
these people and they stand up and they give their
a emotional things. This horrible thing happened. This horrible thing happened.
That's why we need a law. I'll say. You're suggesting,
would I get a chance to speak. You're suggesting that
(05:04):
any of the laws that you're proposing would have prevented
the tragedy that you're standing on the back of. The
dead children that you're standing on the back of. That
is what they can never support. They can never say, oh,
this law would have prevented that. That's wrong, that's unsupportable,
and that's why we keep kicking their ass in the
Indiana General Assembly.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's the one law he would have obeyed, right right.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh wow, I'm gonna I'm not afraid of dying in
a shootout or eating a bullet, which is usually their
plan from my own gun, I'm not afraid of that.
But if you pass this one more law, oh gosh,
I better know, co commit this heinous crime, murder a
bunch of kids, and then kill myself because I'm worried
about this one additional criminal penalty. It's naive, it's stupid,
(05:46):
and that's why they always lose, at least right here
in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Monday Gun Day, Guy Ralford with us.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
A lot of high school students going back to school
this week, high school, even some of the younger kids,
I think going back to school this week. Now, well,
in the state of South Dakota, South Dakota University System
has approved guns on campus policy to comply with a
new state law. Now, I know here in Indy the
college kids don't go back for a little while, but
(06:14):
walk me through what's going on here.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Guy, Yeah, Well, there's a long in South Dakota and
we've we've proposed similar legislation and we've had legislators introduced bills.
My friend Jim Lucas from District sixty nine has has
had a bill multiple sessions that what we call campus
carry and what this is is it says that if
a college or university in Indiana receives state money in funding,
(06:39):
which most of them do, then they cannot prevent the
lawful carrying of firearms on campus.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So say, Indiana University, the state named university here in Indiana,
they certainly receive funding from the state.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Of Indiana University. Absolutely, you're exactly right. But right now,
by the way, it's not illegal to carry a gun
on a college campus. In Indiana, the so called Free
or Gun Free School Zones Act only applies only applies
to K through twelve and licensed daycares, So it's not illegal.
I mean I've been asked a lecture or give presentations,
(07:13):
you know, lectures to groups over at IEP. Why I'm
always carrying a gun and there's no mental detector and
so I carry it now. But it's against their policy
for anybody to have a gun. So if you're a student,
you can be expelled, which is huge obviously. If you're
an employee like staff member or otherwise, you can be fired.
If you're a guest or you know, a visitor, you
(07:35):
can be thrown off campus under fear of being prosecuted
for trespassing. But it's not against the law. You don't
get to jail. So what these bills say is that
if you receive state money, the state says you cannot
prohibit carry, you can. I have a policy that prevents
carry on campus. And we've never been able to get that,
even a committee hearing, We've never been able to get
it passed in Indiana. It's passed in Texas. It looks
(07:57):
like now it's going to pass in South Dakota. It's
passing a few other places. But when I look at this,
and I'm thinking you talking about common sense legislation. I mean,
my daughter's going to college and she has to, you know,
walk home from the library by herself, unescorted, across the
dark campus, completely unprotected. And and why is that okay?
(08:18):
And and you know, criminals, and I'm sorry, and it's
it's it's hard for us to talk about. But how many,
how many rapes and other violent crimes happen on college
campuses every single year. The numbers are shocking. And why
should anybody on a college campus who can lawfully possess
a gun, who can lawfully carry a handgun, for instance,
why should they be prohibited because that school has an
(08:40):
antisecond amendment policy. That's what campus carries all about. That's
what South Dakota. That's a problem they're fixing. And I
would love to see that happen in Indiana. And it should.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Monday Gun Day with Guy Relford, the gun guy. We
got your shirts back on the merchant story out about that.
I've got a new local printer, So if you make
an order, you get your shirt today, much quicker, timely, manner.
Put them on our Facebook and Twitter right now, or
you could just go to the website store dot Hammer
and Nigel dot com. Your Monday gun Day shall not
(09:13):
be in friend shirt and on the back it's like
a Jersey T shirt.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It says well for two a which is really cool.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And I have one. By the way, you guys are
back in the State Fair. Yes, I'm so excited about this.
I came out and hung out with you guys last time.
I'm gonna do that again, whether I'm invited or not.
I'll just sit in the audience and support you guys
because that was a blast when we did that last year.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Absolutely, man, come on down and hang out with us
and we'll have a good time. But get those Guy
Relford shirts right now. Support my guy over here real quick.
Before we wrap up here, guy, Supreme Court's going to
decide if people who smoke that wacky Tobacci people who
smoke the weed are allowed to own guns.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, and listen right now, there's a law that says
you cannot. There's a federal law, so you cannot possess
a firearm if you're a user of we addicted to
any illegal drugs and marijuana as ridiculous as this is.
And listen, I learned in college that marijuana and I
don't get along. So this is this, This is not
in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's the way Guy Rafford had a thick head of
hair that he smoked one joint.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And now look what that made me want to made
me wanted to go curl up in a fetal position
and not talk to anybody. Just made me quiet and paranoid.
But there are people, certainly in my family, well this
is more of an issue. But marijuana, even though it's
legal in half the states now, plus it's still illegal
at the federal law at the federal level. And so
(10:36):
if you are a user over addicted to marijuana, federal
law right now says you cannot possess a firearm even
in those states where it's been legalized at the state level.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So let's say you live in like I think Illinois has.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Illinois, Michigan, Colorado where my son lives. We're surrounded by this,
surrounded by them, right and so, and in those states
where you have a medical marijuana card, right that have
medical Mariorjana, you've just created a government document that says
you're an habitual user, a consistent user of marijuana, which
means you're not prohibited by federal law from possessing a gun.
(11:10):
And so we have one case it's going to be
considered in committee at the Supreme Court this September that's
pending where a guy got sentenced to jail because officials
established that he was a usual, constant user of marijuana
and habitual user of marijuana, and so he got convicted
(11:33):
of a crime looking at three years in prison, and
lower court found out to be unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.
It's going to the Supreme Court, and I would love
to see this and under this text, history and tradition test,
it's only going to go back to saying, if someone
is just a user of a drug but not under
the influence at the time they possess a gun, is
(11:53):
it consistent with the history and tradition of regulation of
the Second Amendment country to deprive them of their constitutional rights?
Because that's the way the law works now. You know,
just like, do you regularly use marijuana? Yeah, I use
it a couple of times, use it today? No, Well
you're still going to prison. That doesn't make any sense
to me. And that's what Supreme Court is going to
consider whether they take the case.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Where can we find more information?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Give me a follow please at on Twitter x as
Tony calls it twitter x at Guy Rilford on Twitter, Guy,
You're the best.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Thanks guys, It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.
The only way to bag a classy lady is to
give her two tickets to the gun show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This Monday Gun Day with the gun just watch out
with the guns. The guy stop calling your arms, Gunny.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
None of his. Nigel dasent Hammer is here also live
in studio, The gun Guy Guy Ralford hosts of the
Gun Guys Show Saturdays on ninety three w IBC Licensed
Firearms Instructor to a attorney, Guy, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm great and thanks as always to our sponsor for
Monday Gun Day. That's Premier Arms in Brownsburg with the
largest selection of new use and historic firearms in the
Midwest and PA Jewelers located in the farmhouse right out front.
Check them out thirty seven and fifty four South Green
Street in Brownsburg or Premier Arms dot com.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Want to start out with something just a little dark.
We don't have to dwell on this at all for
any you know, we could just talk about this and
move on. But I after church on Sunday, went with
my grandma and my my dad and his wife and
my wife, my kids to out to eat out out
to lunch place on four twenty one. It's it's kind
(01:10):
of my stone Creek. I forget what it is, but
they serve like really good banana cream pie.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You're talking about it a dessert place, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
They serve Nigel's bananas.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
YEAHA. But this woman walks in, but they serve like like,
you know, club sandwiches and stuff too. So this woman
walks in like she looks like a grandma, and she's
wearing a purple shirt. On the back of her shirt,
I've never it said quote pro life looks like twenty
(01:42):
Sandy Hook students starting high school this year. Yeah, and
that I I had a reaction. I didn't say anything
to her. I was with my grandma, I was with
my family. I've never said anything to anybody who out
shirts and statements they were wearing. But I almost wanted
(02:05):
to go up to her and say, that is the
most despicable thing I've ever seen. Some lady not only
standing on the backs of grieving parents and dead kids
perpetuating a gun grabbing, anti gun narrative, but also there
was a pro life element, pro you know, abortion element
(02:28):
in that shirt, and I almost I almost just wanted
to go up to it and say, that is the
most despicable thing I've ever heard, and this is the
reality that we're dealing with now. I don't know her background.
I don't know if she's had a victim of somebody
that's been shot by a gun. I don't know, but
to wear the let me read this again, pro life
(02:52):
looks like twenty Sandy hook students starting high school this year.
I wanted to flip it ruined it kind of like
ruined my lunch with my family. Yeah, and this is
the this is the mindset of the people that you
deal with.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is the mindset. And believe me, I'm down to
State House and we have the Mom's Demand Action ladies
in there, and and I'm kind of a target or
a focal point for a lot of their their ire
on social media and otherwise. I took a lot of
that this weekend. But you know, seeing that shirt, I mean,
first of all, is there anybody in the known universe
(03:29):
who wouldn't want to see those twenty kids murdered at
Sandy Hooks, you know, starting high school right now? I mean,
and to suggest that anybody feels otherwise, of course, is disgusting.
And that's what hits you, you know, so below the
belt and why it's ridiculous. But at the same time,
there's obviously a message there that she's saying that there
should be laws in place that would have prevented the
(03:52):
Sandy Hook shooting and therefore saved those kids' lives and
would have then allowed them to be starting high school.
That's what the suggestion is, right, pro life. You know
that we're talking about it's a political debate. We're talking
about laws. We're talking about legislation, and I want to
know what law. And this is what it always comes
down to. These people come out at you with with
emotion and fear and guilt any.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Other emotionally, that's emotionally guilt.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
But logic has to respond in the sense to say,
what law in place would prevent a psychotic kid from
killing his mother, stealing her rifle that she legally bought,
then going to a school and violating who knows how
many other laws, including the law against osay murder, possession
of a firearm on school property, any number of other laws.
(04:42):
What law in place is this woman, this woman indirectly suggesting,
would have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting. That's what they
can never answer. And when I'm in committee hearings of
these people and they stand up and they give their
a emotional things. This horrible thing happened. This horrible thing happened.
That's why we need a law. I'll say. You're suggesting,
would I get a chance to speak. You're suggesting that
(05:04):
any of the laws that you're proposing would have prevented
the tragedy that you're standing on the back of. The
dead children that you're standing on the back of. That
is what they can never support. They can never say, oh,
this law would have prevented that. That's wrong, that's unsupportable,
and that's why we keep kicking their ass in the
Indiana General Assembly.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's the one law he would have obeyed, right right.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh wow, I'm gonna I'm not afraid of dying in
a shootout or eating a bullet, which is usually their
plan from my own gun, I'm not afraid of that.
But if you pass this one more law, oh gosh,
I better know, co commit this heinous crime, murder a
bunch of kids, and then kill myself because I'm worried
about this one additional criminal penalty. It's naive, it's stupid,
(05:46):
and that's why they always lose, at least right here
in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Monday Gun Day, Guy Ralford with us.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
A lot of high school students going back to school
this week, high school, even some of the younger kids,
I think going back to school this week. Now, well,
in the state of South Dakota, South Dakota University System
has approved guns on campus policy to comply with a
new state law. Now, I know here in Indy the
college kids don't go back for a little while, but
(06:14):
walk me through what's going on here.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Guy, Yeah, Well, there's a long in South Dakota and
we've we've proposed similar legislation and we've had legislators introduced bills.
My friend Jim Lucas from District sixty nine has has
had a bill multiple sessions that what we call campus
carry and what this is is it says that if
a college or university in Indiana receives state money in funding,
(06:39):
which most of them do, then they cannot prevent the
lawful carrying of firearms on campus.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So say, Indiana University, the state named university here in Indiana,
they certainly receive funding from the state.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Of Indiana University. Absolutely, you're exactly right. But right now,
by the way, it's not illegal to carry a gun
on a college campus. In Indiana, the so called Free
or Gun Free School Zones Act only applies only applies
to K through twelve and licensed daycares, So it's not illegal.
I mean I've been asked a lecture or give presentations,
(07:13):
you know, lectures to groups over at IEP. Why I'm
always carrying a gun and there's no mental detector and
so I carry it now. But it's against their policy
for anybody to have a gun. So if you're a student,
you can be expelled, which is huge obviously. If you're
an employee like staff member or otherwise, you can be fired.
If you're a guest or you know, a visitor, you
(07:35):
can be thrown off campus under fear of being prosecuted
for trespassing. But it's not against the law. You don't
get to jail. So what these bills say is that
if you receive state money, the state says you cannot
prohibit carry, you can. I have a policy that prevents
carry on campus. And we've never been able to get that,
even a committee hearing, We've never been able to get
it passed in Indiana. It's passed in Texas. It looks
(07:57):
like now it's going to pass in South Dakota. It's
passing a few other places. But when I look at this,
and I'm thinking you talking about common sense legislation. I mean,
my daughter's going to college and she has to, you know,
walk home from the library by herself, unescorted, across the
dark campus, completely unprotected. And and why is that okay?
(08:18):
And and you know, criminals, and I'm sorry, and it's
it's it's hard for us to talk about. But how many,
how many rapes and other violent crimes happen on college
campuses every single year. The numbers are shocking. And why
should anybody on a college campus who can lawfully possess
a gun, who can lawfully carry a handgun, for instance,
why should they be prohibited because that school has an
(08:40):
antisecond amendment policy. That's what campus carries all about. That's
what South Dakota. That's a problem they're fixing. And I
would love to see that happen in Indiana. And it should.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Monday Gun Day with Guy Relford, the gun guy. We
got your shirts back on the merchant story out about that.
I've got a new local printer, So if you make
an order, you get your shirt today, much quicker, timely, manner.
Put them on our Facebook and Twitter right now, or
you could just go to the website store dot Hammer
and Nigel dot com. Your Monday gun Day shall not
(09:13):
be in friend shirt and on the back it's like
a Jersey T shirt.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It says well for two a which is really cool.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And I have one. By the way, you guys are
back in the State Fair. Yes, I'm so excited about this.
I came out and hung out with you guys last time.
I'm gonna do that again, whether I'm invited or not.
I'll just sit in the audience and support you guys
because that was a blast when we did that last year.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Absolutely, man, come on down and hang out with us
and we'll have a good time. But get those Guy
Relford shirts right now. Support my guy over here real quick.
Before we wrap up here, guy, Supreme Court's going to
decide if people who smoke that wacky Tobacci people who
smoke the weed are allowed to own guns.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, and listen right now, there's a law that says
you cannot. There's a federal law, so you cannot possess
a firearm if you're a user of we addicted to
any illegal drugs and marijuana as ridiculous as this is.
And listen, I learned in college that marijuana and I
don't get along. So this is this, This is not
in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's the way Guy Rafford had a thick head of
hair that he smoked one joint.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And now look what that made me want to made
me wanted to go curl up in a fetal position
and not talk to anybody. Just made me quiet and paranoid.
But there are people, certainly in my family, well this
is more of an issue. But marijuana, even though it's
legal in half the states now, plus it's still illegal
at the federal law at the federal level. And so
(10:36):
if you are a user over addicted to marijuana, federal
law right now says you cannot possess a firearm even
in those states where it's been legalized at the state level.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So let's say you live in like I think Illinois has.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Illinois, Michigan, Colorado where my son lives. We're surrounded by this,
surrounded by them, right and so, and in those states
where you have a medical marijuana card, right that have
medical Mariorjana, you've just created a government document that says
you're an habitual user, a consistent user of marijuana, which
means you're not prohibited by federal law from possessing a gun.
(11:10):
And so we have one case it's going to be
considered in committee at the Supreme Court this September that's
pending where a guy got sentenced to jail because officials
established that he was a usual, constant user of marijuana
and habitual user of marijuana, and so he got convicted
(11:33):
of a crime looking at three years in prison, and
lower court found out to be unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.
It's going to the Supreme Court, and I would love
to see this and under this text, history and tradition test,
it's only going to go back to saying, if someone
is just a user of a drug but not under
the influence at the time they possess a gun, is
(11:53):
it consistent with the history and tradition of regulation of
the Second Amendment country to deprive them of their constitutional rights?
Because that's the way the law works now. You know,
just like, do you regularly use marijuana? Yeah, I use
it a couple of times, use it today? No, Well
you're still going to prison. That doesn't make any sense
to me. And that's what Supreme Court is going to
consider whether they take the case.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Where can we find more information?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Give me a follow please at on Twitter x as
Tony calls it twitter x at Guy Rilford on Twitter, Guy,
You're the best.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Thanks guys, It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.
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