Off The Rails With Rob Kendall 10/2/2025

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I want you to get up right now, but go
to the window, open it well, stick your head out
and yell mad as hell. And I'm not trynna take
this anymore. And now Nigel Joe off the rails with from.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
My name is Nigel's birthday boy.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Jason Hammer is here also joining us live in studio
to go off the reel since Rob, and they'll Rob,
how are you great?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Thanks as always to our segment sponsored Garage Doors of Indianapolis. Hammer.
Can I just say this, and I mean this as
a compliment, Other than you being much fatter than when
I first met you plenty twice twenty plus years ago,
you have maintained most of your youthful beauty and boyish charm.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, thank you, Rob, I appreciate that youthful energy. That's
what it is. Twenty plus years ago when you met me,
I was a guy that liked to gamble, swear and
pump chicks. Nothing's changed.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I was gonna say, I'm still here, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm still standing his Elton John.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
You know, I know I've told the story before, but
I met so I was the producer for the Indians. Yeah,
nineteen year old Rob Kendall, that's all long, Hammer and
I have known each other, and on WX and T
Hammer was the weekend and filling guy on ZPL, and
I used to go down and ignore the Indians broadcast.
I'm sure I missed like eighty commercial breaks because I
thought it was cool at all the chicks, the hot,

(01:24):
sunning chicks that called Hammer.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh sure.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
And then Hammer gave me a great valuable life lesson.
He once told me said, just because they sound hot
doesn't mean they are.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I've made that mistake too, my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
The more you know, Rainbow right there.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Made that mistake again, again and again. I never learned
my lesson in my twenties. Never, never, never, And I
didn't seem to matter anyway. I didn't seem to care.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
They're not all tens.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
They can't all be tense, and I don't care if
they're not all tens.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
It was also what I learned. You can trade Now,
this was back in the days of email, right, but
you can trade a nude for a song request.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I never did that.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
How bad do you want to hear that Britney Spears song.
It was a different time back then.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Decency standards aren't what they are today.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Noro where we at with the government shut down?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You happy? You said, are you glad it's going on?
We'd have no end in sight. But this is certainly
from the Democrats doing correct.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, okay, so let's talk about what's going on here.
The Republicans are taking a victory lap that they passed
Biden level spending. I mean that's is that the big
beautiful bill? Oh no, I mean that's what that's what
Basically what they've continued, the continuation has been is I mean,
they have taken they've paired back a few of the
Biden programs, but by and large we're talking Biden level spending,

(02:39):
which is why Ran Paul in the Senate voted against it,
because he said, look, we're supposed to be the party
of low taxes and limited government, and every time we
get in charge of anything, we just keep spending and
growing the government. And it's such an odd flex that
Republicans are presenting themselves as the good guys.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
We were promised Doge right, Doge was going to cut
a lot of that thing.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, and it didn't seem to work out. Yeah, isn't
that funny? Look it never changes. So you on one
end you have the Republicans who are doing a victory
Latin now because the Biden government is now their new
standard of how much government we should have. And then
you have the Democrats who are like, yeah, the Biden
level of government not enough for us anymore. We're gonna

(03:20):
need some more government. On top of that, we are
thirty seven trillion plus in debt, and nobody takes any
of this seriously whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
But does it come down to the issue, And it
feels like it's come down to this of the Democrats
want a crap ton of money to go to the
states so those states can pay the healthcare of illegal aliens,
and the Republicans are like, we'll give the states money,
but you are not going to give it to illegal aliens.
It feels like that's the one issue that we're coming

(03:48):
down to here.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, Republicans are wholly invested in Obamacare the same way
the Democrats are. And what Obamacare is is it was
a massive expansion of medicaid. And if you look at
what the Republicans are doing after fifteen years of huffing
and puffing and saying, oh, Obamacare bad, we gotta do this,
so we gotta do that fifteen years other than let's
see two of those years, so thirteen of the fifteen

(04:11):
years since Republicans took the House in twenty ten, they've
had at least some control of the government, and they've
done absolutely nothing about Obamacare other than in many ways
to strengthen it. And so now what the Republicans are
doing is they're saying, well, we're not opposed to keeping
Obamacare going and fully funding Obamacare. We just need to
pass this government funding thing first, then we'll come back

(04:32):
and do what you want in Obamacare. And the best
part about this is their quote unquote they have what
are they like, working group now or focus group or whatever,
where a bunch of these senators are working together. Their
new thing that they're gonna sell in Obamacare is, well,
we're pairing it back to where it was before twenty twenty.
So during COVID, massive amounts of people were thrown onto

(04:53):
the Medicaid roles and it's all sorts of waste fraud abuse,
which there was all sorts of waste fraud abuse before COVID.
One of the Republicans new victory lap they're going to
take is what we're just pairing it back to where
it was before COVID.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
But in terms of the shutdown itself, this can't go
on forever. I think some people would like it, but
it seems like, again, if I'm a pro handicapper, if
I'm a degenerate next door here, the Democrats don't have
the cards, they don't have the leverage, and they don't
like Chuck Schumer, and that's a big part of this.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, what they'll probably do, and look, Schumer is doing
this because he's scared that he's gonna get primary challenges
from AOC. What is most likely to happen is this
focus group, working group whatever, they're gonna cut some sort
of side deal on Obamacare where they're promised to vote.
And that's what will probably happen is they will then
be promised to vote on Obamacare. They know the Republicans
will pass it because the Republicans are just as invested

(05:48):
in the legalized vote buying business as the Democrats are.
And look, that's what Obamacare has become. Are your guys
insurance any cheaper than it was fifteen years ago?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I free a little my wife, So you'd have.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
To ask, everything's expensive, everything's what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Obama? Promised your insurance wouldn't go up one one dime.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And the Hayma got fired. Yeah, so because of Obamacare.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
All Obamacare is is a massive giveaway to the insurance companies.
That's all it's ever been. That's all that's happening with Obamacare.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Now.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Nothing got any better, nothing got any more affordable. What
happens is they take money from us and then they
give it to the insurance companies so that people can
buy unaffordable insurance. That's all it is. Hey, what's it called.
If you take money from somebody, you can't give it
to yourself. You give it to somebody else who then
gives it to you. There's a name for that, money laundering.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's what it's called.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
That's what it's called. And that's what's happening here. And
the Republicans will cut a deal you watch, with the
Democrats in order for them to vote for this budget,
they will guarantee you a vote on Obamacare which will pass.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Okay, tenfoil hat here. Tell me if I'm completely out
of left field here, I think there's a lot of
Democrats that want Chuck schu Were to fail miserably here
so they can replace him. They can primary him when
the time comes around, and this will be the death
knell on the coffin. They can get a little bit younger,
they can just go all in too, the young, crazy
radical side bring in AOC, whoever it is. I think

(07:16):
they want Chuck Schumer to fail.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I think the base does. I think the institution, though,
which almost always wins out. I think the institution is
fine with Chuck Schumer being there, and so that will
be an interesting battle, but we all lose in the end. Anyway.
There's nothing either of these parties are doing to make
life more affordable. There's nothing they're doing that's gonna fix inflation.
There's nothing that's gonna make goods and services more readily
of it.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
And most people in the government are still working well,
of course, and they're gonna get paid when they come back.
Like I remember the first time the government shut down
happened in twenty thirteen, and I was all jazzed up
about it.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I was a young elected official. I was like, yeah,
the Republicans are growing affair, let's go. And then whatever
it was they caved on and then everybody got their money.
I was like, wait, people got their money to not
work Oh, yeah, that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
What the hell is that? So basically your first reaction
to a government shut down was how I felt after
I bought that many Pacquiao Floyd Mayweather fight. You get
all excited, you're ready to go, and then afterwards you
find out Pakiao was hurt. They just kind of hugged
each other for an hour. What the hell was that?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Where did you guys? Did you watch it at your house?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Did you actually buy?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I paid twenty five dollars to get into Kilroy's in
Broad Ripple, and there was lines. Every place had a
line and it was like sold out, so you had
to get there. This was the greatest scam and scheme
in American history because everybody made out like bandits on
this fight because you had to get there like six
hours early, so you just had to sit there for
the undercart and drink for like six hours and a

(08:46):
like one hundred dollars bar tab by the time it
was time to leave. And that fight, You're right, it
was horrible and the guy was hurt and didn't disclose it, right.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's the thing that pissed me off more than anything else.
Either cancel the fight and reschedule it, but don't go
out there hurt and just go through the motions.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Hey, can I tell you switch to subjects here? One
of my favorite moments this week on the Kendell and
Casey Show. You were pissing Casey off because she said,
Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War is kicking out all
the women in the military.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's right, this big grand speech that he made. But
you did.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
But seriously, though this thing with Pete hegg Sath, you
had a little bit of a problem with it, didn't
you At some point when he was talking about the
female perspective.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Well, sometimes I just do things to see how mad
I can make Casey, and Casey'll do this thing where
she sticks her tongue in her cheek. Yeah, and she's
like grinding her teeth over it, and I can see
she really wants to say something, and it's like, Okay,
big girl, come on, you want to dance, let's dance.
And then she wisely decides not to dance. My issue
with it is this, how many people do we actually

(09:48):
have in the military. We've all heard about declining enrollment
in the military, et cetera. Because we've so demonized the
military and we don't reward the military properly. If we
have enough people to do the thing, which is engage
in frontline combat missions if necessary, then fine, kick all
the women out that can't meet the standard. But I
just don't know do we have enough people now to

(10:10):
be able to pull that off? And I didn't think
the interesting the phraseology they used was highest male Was
it like highest male standard? I thought, wow, talk about
deliberately trying to piss a group of people off and
make horrible headlines go for If we have enough people
to do it, great, that was my only point in
all this. I don't know if we do or not.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Somewhere there's a guy that's had a drill sergeant in
his face, like what he was going through basic listening
to you right now, going oh, the last thing we
wants to have people get their feelings hurt. Somebody was
probably called filth, Floren, Floren, filth right to their face.
Somebody went full full metal jacket on somebody, and we're
going back to that. Look.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I love that they've said the people in charge can't
be big fatties and lazy people either. I love that,
But I also wonder though, like, Okay, let's take patent
during World War Two, Shorts Cough or Schwartz Cough or
or Eisenhower. Would they have met the physical requirement. I
think they did a pretty good job. But look, if
there's enough people, I'm fine with it. I just wonder,

(11:10):
in the era where it's so hard to get people
to engage in the military, if you're actually gonna have
enough people to pull off what you want to do.
I guess we'll see. Hopefully we never see. Hopefully there
are no Hopefully you don't have to send troops anywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm confused by what the womenists want, and that's what
they called them in Pcus, the movie The Womenist. Do
you want to be treated like men? Do you want
to be treated like everybody? Do you want to play
the sports with the men? Okay, then the standards are
the same. You've got to pass the same test that
this dude has to pass, because if you have to
rescue somebody from the field of battle, you got to
pick them up and move them.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Look. I don't have any problem with that. And at
least we're finally admitting out loud that, hey, men, biological men,
all things being equal, are physically superior stronger than women. Now,
of course it doesn't mean everybody that Rhea Ripley checked
from wwe could break me in half, right, But I'm
just saying generic man versus generic woman. At least where
the admitting that outloud and I think this is great.

(12:01):
My only point on it was do you have enough
people to actually pull this off? And if not, how
are you going to get enough people?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Come back for one more? Yeah, Rob Kendall going off
the rails. This is the Hammer and Nigel Show back
with Rob Kendall of the Kendall and Casey Show nine
to Nude here at ninety three WIBC. So this story
is making national headlines now, like Trump's Deputy chief of
Staff on policy, Stephen Miller, was tweeting about it. The

(12:30):
dude that has been arrested ninety nine times for various
crimes here in Indy, now he's charged with stabbing somebody.
It was an attempted murder. FOP President Rick Snyder joined
us yesterday and said, already less than the charge.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
It was right right there.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
They've lessed the charge of this already. I mean, this
is laughable. You should be humiliated if you work in
the prosecutor's office here in Marion County, but I got
a feeling.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
They're not well, So this is interesting. A couple of
weeks ago, we played this clip. Josh Bain, who's a
city county councilor, was interviewing one of these I think
it was a Superior Court judge during their budget hearing,
and he asked about this issue about these people getting
back out on the street, and the judge's response like,
when you actually just listen to the words, not all
that bad, right, Like he was making some decent points.

(13:20):
I was trying to listen to it objectively, but he
was so like flippant and arrogant in his response back
to Bain, and that was what really set me off.
And it's sort of a microcosm of what's going on
here in which everybody kind of points their finger at
somebody else, Like the judge's point at the prosecutor, therou
points at the mayor, the mayor points back at the prosecutor,
the mayor points at the judges. Like everybody's pointing at

(13:43):
each other instead of saying, look, we are at crisis
point here and we've got to come together and figure
out what's going on. In Hey, if we need to
help with the legislature to do it, great, But nobody
seems to be leading on this.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
And when did it become such a bad thing to
lock people up? Like somehow in this counting and we
went through a phase of where well, we can't just
lock up bad people for a long time. Why how
did we get to that point?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Well, Indy Mary County is toast right, and the problem
is you're like the last true believer left Hammer.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm not leaving well, and you should.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
You should have to.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm Leo and the Wolf of Wall Street.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Well, I mean, it's the same reason I'd love to
get the hell out of warehouse Berg. But it's like, hey,
wait a second, I was here first. I'm not leaving right,
But in terms of the people who have left Indianapolis,
there's so few Republicans left that the Democrats can do
whatever they want and there's no ramification for their actions.
And I hate to be a Debbie you know me,
I hate to be a Debbie Downer.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's right, you're normally just a bucket of joy.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
But I don't see how this gets any better because
I don't see there's the political will to put new
people in to make to make the difference. I don't
know how it gets any better. Special things to Garage
Stores of Indianapolis. Happy birthday, fat boy.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
You guys, thank you. He's off the rails.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
That's Rob Kendall.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
This is the Hammer and Nigel Show.