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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Hamma Nigel show. Hello, my name is Nigel. That
is Jason Hammer right over there with a very special
guest on the hotline.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Signal. He is
the host of the Tony Kennett Cast, and he was
the stunt double in the movie Elf Ladies and Gentlemen.
Tony Kennett joins us, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I mean, sitting on a throne of lies and smelling
of beef and cheese.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I suppose, hey, man.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This time tomorrow, a couple of big things may be happening.
Nige and I may be in a new studio and
we may be talking about the results of the Senate vote,
the changing of the congressional map here in Indiana. What
say you? What do you think we're at with this thing?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, I'd say, first of all, I switched studios before
it was.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Cool, so glad you guys are getting up to the time.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Finally.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Second of all, regarding the redistricting, I hope that it happens.
I'm skeptical that it will because again you still have
Jane Lysing, who like a crazy Alzheimer written old woman going.
They contacted my grandson and of course that's not true,
but she's still clinging to that because you know, Senile
(01:12):
gen state Senator gen Lysing. I used to page for
her back when I was in high school.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So she's been in the.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
State Senate a while, and she's voting no on redistricting because,
and I kid you not, someone sent out a mass
text that included her grandson. She thinks it was personal,
even though that's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It kind of feels like they're reaching for the bottom
of the barrel on excuses here, like when bo Hot
Chick came out and said, well, I don't like the
way Donald Trump called Tim Walls that name. So for
that reason, I'm out on something that's going to happen in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Which is even funnier because when you consider that his
child isn't actually on the spectrum called like retarded the
actual word used there, it's like grasping its straws in
a totally different area. It's embarrassing. So again, I'm skeptical.
If they're able to scrounge the boats, it's going to
be close.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Now again, I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Have yet to hear a good reason as to why
we shouldn't. So far, the answers I've heard are it's
the timing, which it's not a period. It's like a
major redistricting guys come on like relax, So anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What happens Tony, If this thing goes the way we
think it's going to and it does not pass through
the Senate tomorrow, is this thing dead? Is this thing done?
What happens at a national level? Are we going to
hear any more from Turning Point USA or any of
these national packs.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So, first of all, it will have a really rough
time doing anything like getting back into the House of
the Senate if it doesn't pass.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Greg Abbott of Texas had the stones to.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Say, you get back here and pass it, and he
through like five special sessions in before they got school
choice or redistricting. Is Mike Brown going to get out
there and do that. No, I don't think he's going
to do that now. I don't really care one way
or the other whether or not I think they should
force the state senators to work for a living, you know,
kind of a crazy concept, and it really is wearing.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Down their morale.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That is the biggest thing I think you'll see a
lot of these state senators are no longer running for
reelection because no one likes them. The Democrats don't like them,
the Republicans don't like them, and it's because they're unlikable.
Kyle Walker, in his state Senate seat, has flipped off
more people by not listening to them in his own
district than mister Bean traveling through the United States putting
(03:26):
these people off in the passenger seat. So I mean,
I don't feel bad for him. Is that the end nationally? Well,
that actually could make or break the House? So boy,
I sure can't wait for a dead screeching out for
two years.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You be. I.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Here's my other question, though, and I do want redistricting
to happen. I'm all for it. Say the Senate pulls
off a miracle and it does happen and they do
redraw the maps, is there any guarantee that those two
blue seats are going to flip come election time? No?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
In fact, here's the funny thing. By cutting up Marion
County and removing the racial district currently in place, and
by the way, look at the history of the map,
they're already unjerrymandering Marion County anyway, so get over it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But alas in this case.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It moderates like four or five very hard leaning Republican districts,
it waters them down. Democrats will have more of a
shot to get a majority of the congressional seats in
Indiana than they ever will have had in the last
forty years. So as far as the moaning and the
whining and complaining, if supposedly they have enough gumption to
(04:36):
pretend that Jennifer McCormick is totally going to win the
governor's race, well then why can't you get it together
with more Democrats and a leaning red district.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And pull it off? Are you just admitting you suck
that bad?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
One last thing on this before we move on to
some national stuff here, one of the things I keep
hearing is if this doesn't happen, we're going to primary
all those rhino Republicans. But Tony, the problem is, like
the head of the beast here is Rod Bray, and
this dude isn't up for election for another couple of years,
like two years down the road. Here, three years down
(05:11):
the road, is anybody going to remember how angry they
are right now as a reason to primary him.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So let's take a look at Rod Bray's list of accomplishments. Okay,
thanks for that, Dan. He doesn't have anything really that
makes him likable to the Republican Party in the state.
He's just mad and he's made that his personality is
really strange and he thinks that the inside of the
So the populace have found this out as well. If
(05:39):
you think that the Indiana Republican Convention is real life
and the rest of the state, you're stupid. That's not
how it works. And he's going to learn that lesson
because he hasn't provided anything for Indiana and your.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Require here, much like your studio, I hated Rod Bray
before it was cool.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That is rather true back in our WTHR diving.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Days, as they say, Tony kennittt with this investigative reporter
for the Daily Signal, host of the Tony Kennett Cast
seven o'clock right after our show here at WIBC, let's
pivot to some national issues here. It seems like Donald
Trump is going on the offensive here about the quote
affordability crisis. So let me ask you this first. Is
(06:24):
there an affordability crisis for Donald Trump right now?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
For Donald Trump himself?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes, is an affordability crisis that Donald Trump caused. No,
if you don't like that, I'm sorry. The data shows
that Trump has done quite a bit to deregulate major
aspects of the economy that have brought a lot of
prices down.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
The housing crisis. I'm sorry. That ain't Trump's fault.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
He's tried to deregulate housing, and you have Bernie Sanders
going a couple control the buildings of there being built,
builts plumps again, he'll live it in two fancy mansions.
But that kind of affordability c that's you know, that's
not Trump's fault. He's working to vix it. I don't know,
it's kind of the ownership is a little bit of
a twist here.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I feel like in Hamer, I'll let you finish the
other part of that question, but like, I feel like
the word affordability has turned into this buzzword that's only
appeared over the past year, year and a half. Am
I crazy about that?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
No? It is something that millennials and Gen Z have
used to describe how annoyed they are. Yes, that we're
constantly told by the older generation.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I you kids should be like me.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I was in a factory and.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I bought a home with two Wooden Nichols.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And I was fine.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And that's not the way.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
The economy works anymore. And by the way, that is
a problem. The idea of getting new people to join
the right means that you have to go, why Tragg,
just do what I did?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We didn't just win the Cold War like when you
were a kid, Grandpa. Doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But Tony, let me take the other side of this. Here,
is this a self induced wound by Donald Trump because
he was the one that campaigned there's gonna be so
much winning, You're gonna crap your pants. The tariffs are
gonna bring everybody so much money. I'm gonna be passing
out thousands of dollars like I'm the Joker in the
nineteen eighty nine Batman movie. Like he promised all of
(08:12):
this kind of stuff. And here we are. It's the
holiday season. I mean, gas, I guess is down a
little bit, but if you ask people who do the
grocery shopping, if you ask people who've gone out to
stores to go shopping, it's still pretty damn expensive.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And this is again an issue for the Trump administration
and the commside. And I've said this before there are
a lot of people that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Are running around right now going.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
See all of the tariffs are working. And again when
you look at consumer sentiment when it comes to the
grocery level, there are a lot of people who still
aren't convinced prices are on their way down. Yes are
they were voters want them? No, Now, this is the
good news. Trumpston kind of reverse cats twenty two. If
the Supreme Court smacks down a bunch of the tariffs,
which they're probably going to, then the economy rockets forward
(08:58):
like a kid who just had three cups to joke.
If they don't, then the economy recognizes the tariffs are
here to stay. It adjusts, and then with the deregulation
things rocket forward, albeit probably not as much. He does
end up with a pretty powerful twenty twenty six. It's
just not here yet, will.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I will say people that are complaining about the tariffs
and the prices of goods and affordability, there is this
element that you know, he's only been in office a year,
so yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You own the economy. His own campaign and administration has
said we own it at this point. I mean, you
can't do it. Remember, right in the first year of
Trump's administration. The Democrats were still trying to claim all
of Trump's successes were because of Obama. So we can't
play the end ring around the rosie here. He does
own it at some point. Now he has a big
mestic cleanup for sure. But yeah, some of his policies
(09:48):
have contributed to grocery store prices. That's why they cut
the banana tariffs and the coffee tariffs.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Tony, which of these things are you more excited for
as somebody with a nightly program. Crockett's Senate run or
two more years of Jimmy Kimmel on ABC.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, I would have to start watching Jimmy Kimmel on
ABC in order to have, you know, mine have an
opinion there. Jasmine Crockett's endless entertainment. I mean, Ben Shapiro's
got AOC. You know you've got ilhan Omar for Benny Johnson,
I have Jasmine Crockett, and boy, when the Tyler Perry
producers make fun of how awful you are at stuff,
(10:27):
you know, it's that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
One more thing here before we let you go. You
sent me a message today about this DOJ Civil Rights
Division decision. This is coming from a har meet Dylan,
friend of the program. We've had her on the show
a couple different times. Walk me through what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So the DOJ is ending a practice that has screwed
over millions of people. Essentially for years, when the Department
of Justice would rule on a discrimination case, they would
look at this thing called disparate impacts, which means they
would say, okay, how many people feel that the person
was rarist, and then they would count the nerve hands
raised and go, oh, well, then it must be racist.
(11:09):
Then they're ending that crap. Just because you go to
the DMV and you hated your experience does not mean
you were racially discriminated against.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It just means the DMV sucks.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So what the DJ is now doing is saying, look,
you think you are discriminated against, prove it. You're well,
I feel it was racist. Is no longer enough. You
need to prove it. And that's a very, very big
deal because people's lives have been.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Ruined over this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Remember the cake baker in Colorado who they harassed continually
because he wouldn't bake the gay cake. That era is
coming to an end, thank God.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think Harmeiek Dylon does a great job. Like we've
been pretty critical of some of the people in leadership
positions with the DOJ, you know, Cash Betel. Maybe he's
been underwhelming, maybe he hasn't been Pam Bondy, same thing.
But it feels like you could you always count on
hard meat Dylan to get stuff done.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Harmy Dylan was the very first person to reach out
to me amid the Indianapolis Public schools scandal and said,
and I quote hit them in the knees with a
baseball bat. And I did you know, hate the mentor
encouragement right there?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hey, real quick, just we got about ninety seconds here,
a little bit less. Your take on the conservative infighting
on social media, whether it be some of the conservative
name you can think of, It seemed like there's some
infighting going on right now. I'd like to get your
take on that.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
For everyone who's not habitually on Twitter, it's not happening.
It's really overblown.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, the polling doesn't show it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I'm sorry Nick Foytsiday's in candas. I have caught
them repeatedly using tens of thousands of online bots.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So yeah, all right, wow.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
In terms of like their followers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh, followers, common engagement, viewer engagement, half of Candace podcast
audiences from Africa.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Sorry, just the truth.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Hey man, there's a chance you could be Indianapolis radio history. Tonight.
This may be our last day in this building, Tony,
and even though you're not physically in the building, your
show would be the last one that airs before we
officially switch over to the new radio station building. I
don't know, I'm a radio nerd. I think that's kind
(13:16):
of neat. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I think that I may have already stolen Mike Pence's
chair and oh no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, I've hidden it. There's no way I hid that
thing in my office. It's coming with me, baby.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Congrats guys, Congrats on the move.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
What's coming up tonight?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh tonight, we're making fun of Obamacare and we're bringing
on one of these people who's going to totally replace
it to freaking explain themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Tony Kennett cast seven o'clock right after our show ninety
three WIBC Tonas. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Brother, You guys are the best.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.
So Hamma Nigel show. Hello, my name is Nigel. That
is Jason Hammer right over there with a very special
guest on the hotline.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Signal. He is
the host of the Tony Kennett Cast, and he was
the stunt double in the movie Elf Ladies and Gentlemen.
Tony Kennett joins us, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I mean, sitting on a throne of lies and smelling
of beef and cheese.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I suppose, hey, man.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This time tomorrow, a couple of big things may be happening.
Nige and I may be in a new studio and
we may be talking about the results of the Senate vote,
the changing of the congressional map here in Indiana. What
say you? What do you think we're at with this thing?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, I'd say, first of all, I switched studios before
it was.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Cool, so glad you guys are getting up to the time.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Finally.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Second of all, regarding the redistricting, I hope that it happens.
I'm skeptical that it will because again you still have
Jane Lysing, who like a crazy Alzheimer written old woman going.
They contacted my grandson and of course that's not true,
but she's still clinging to that because you know, Senile
(01:12):
gen state Senator gen Lysing. I used to page for
her back when I was in high school.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So she's been in the.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
State Senate a while, and she's voting no on redistricting because,
and I kid you not, someone sent out a mass
text that included her grandson. She thinks it was personal,
even though that's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It kind of feels like they're reaching for the bottom
of the barrel on excuses here, like when bo Hot
Chick came out and said, well, I don't like the
way Donald Trump called Tim Walls that name. So for
that reason, I'm out on something that's going to happen in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Which is even funnier because when you consider that his
child isn't actually on the spectrum called like retarded the
actual word used there, it's like grasping its straws in
a totally different area. It's embarrassing. So again, I'm skeptical.
If they're able to scrounge the boats, it's going to
be close.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Now again, I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Have yet to hear a good reason as to why
we shouldn't. So far, the answers I've heard are it's
the timing, which it's not a period. It's like a
major redistricting guys come on like relax, So anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What happens Tony, If this thing goes the way we
think it's going to and it does not pass through
the Senate tomorrow, is this thing dead? Is this thing done?
What happens at a national level? Are we going to
hear any more from Turning Point USA or any of
these national packs.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So, first of all, it will have a really rough
time doing anything like getting back into the House of
the Senate if it doesn't pass.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Greg Abbott of Texas had the stones to.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Say, you get back here and pass it, and he
through like five special sessions in before they got school
choice or redistricting. Is Mike Brown going to get out
there and do that. No, I don't think he's going
to do that now. I don't really care one way
or the other whether or not I think they should
force the state senators to work for a living, you know,
kind of a crazy concept, and it really is wearing.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Down their morale.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That is the biggest thing I think you'll see a
lot of these state senators are no longer running for
reelection because no one likes them. The Democrats don't like them,
the Republicans don't like them, and it's because they're unlikable.
Kyle Walker, in his state Senate seat, has flipped off
more people by not listening to them in his own
district than mister Bean traveling through the United States putting
(03:26):
these people off in the passenger seat. So I mean,
I don't feel bad for him. Is that the end nationally? Well,
that actually could make or break the House? So boy,
I sure can't wait for a dead screeching out for
two years.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You be. I.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Here's my other question, though, and I do want redistricting
to happen. I'm all for it. Say the Senate pulls
off a miracle and it does happen and they do
redraw the maps, is there any guarantee that those two
blue seats are going to flip come election time? No?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
In fact, here's the funny thing. By cutting up Marion
County and removing the racial district currently in place, and
by the way, look at the history of the map,
they're already unjerrymandering Marion County anyway, so get over it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But alas in this case.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It moderates like four or five very hard leaning Republican districts,
it waters them down. Democrats will have more of a
shot to get a majority of the congressional seats in
Indiana than they ever will have had in the last
forty years. So as far as the moaning and the
whining and complaining, if supposedly they have enough gumption to
(04:36):
pretend that Jennifer McCormick is totally going to win the
governor's race, well then why can't you get it together
with more Democrats and a leaning red district.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And pull it off? Are you just admitting you suck
that bad?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
One last thing on this before we move on to
some national stuff here, one of the things I keep
hearing is if this doesn't happen, we're going to primary
all those rhino Republicans. But Tony, the problem is, like
the head of the beast here is Rod Bray, and
this dude isn't up for election for another couple of years,
like two years down the road. Here, three years down
(05:11):
the road, is anybody going to remember how angry they
are right now as a reason to primary him.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So let's take a look at Rod Bray's list of accomplishments. Okay,
thanks for that, Dan. He doesn't have anything really that
makes him likable to the Republican Party in the state.
He's just mad and he's made that his personality is
really strange and he thinks that the inside of the
So the populace have found this out as well. If
(05:39):
you think that the Indiana Republican Convention is real life
and the rest of the state, you're stupid. That's not
how it works. And he's going to learn that lesson
because he hasn't provided anything for Indiana and your.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Require here, much like your studio, I hated Rod Bray
before it was cool.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That is rather true back in our WTHR diving.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Days, as they say, Tony kennittt with this investigative reporter
for the Daily Signal, host of the Tony Kennett Cast
seven o'clock right after our show here at WIBC, let's
pivot to some national issues here. It seems like Donald
Trump is going on the offensive here about the quote
affordability crisis. So let me ask you this first. Is
(06:24):
there an affordability crisis for Donald Trump right now?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
For Donald Trump himself?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes, is an affordability crisis that Donald Trump caused. No,
if you don't like that, I'm sorry. The data shows
that Trump has done quite a bit to deregulate major
aspects of the economy that have brought a lot of
prices down.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
The housing crisis. I'm sorry. That ain't Trump's fault.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
He's tried to deregulate housing, and you have Bernie Sanders
going a couple control the buildings of there being built,
builts plumps again, he'll live it in two fancy mansions.
But that kind of affordability c that's you know, that's
not Trump's fault. He's working to vix it. I don't know,
it's kind of the ownership is a little bit of
a twist here.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I feel like in Hamer, I'll let you finish the
other part of that question, but like, I feel like
the word affordability has turned into this buzzword that's only
appeared over the past year, year and a half. Am
I crazy about that?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
No? It is something that millennials and Gen Z have
used to describe how annoyed they are. Yes, that we're
constantly told by the older generation.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I you kids should be like me.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I was in a factory and.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I bought a home with two Wooden Nichols.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And I was fine.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And that's not the way.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
The economy works anymore. And by the way, that is
a problem. The idea of getting new people to join
the right means that you have to go, why Tragg,
just do what I did?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We didn't just win the Cold War like when you
were a kid, Grandpa. Doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But Tony, let me take the other side of this. Here,
is this a self induced wound by Donald Trump because
he was the one that campaigned there's gonna be so
much winning, You're gonna crap your pants. The tariffs are
gonna bring everybody so much money. I'm gonna be passing
out thousands of dollars like I'm the Joker in the
nineteen eighty nine Batman movie. Like he promised all of
(08:12):
this kind of stuff. And here we are. It's the
holiday season. I mean, gas, I guess is down a
little bit, but if you ask people who do the
grocery shopping, if you ask people who've gone out to
stores to go shopping, it's still pretty damn expensive.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And this is again an issue for the Trump administration
and the commside. And I've said this before there are
a lot of people that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Are running around right now going.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
See all of the tariffs are working. And again when
you look at consumer sentiment when it comes to the
grocery level, there are a lot of people who still
aren't convinced prices are on their way down. Yes are
they were voters want them? No, Now, this is the
good news. Trumpston kind of reverse cats twenty two. If
the Supreme Court smacks down a bunch of the tariffs,
which they're probably going to, then the economy rockets forward
(08:58):
like a kid who just had three cups to joke.
If they don't, then the economy recognizes the tariffs are
here to stay. It adjusts, and then with the deregulation
things rocket forward, albeit probably not as much. He does
end up with a pretty powerful twenty twenty six. It's
just not here yet, will.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I will say people that are complaining about the tariffs
and the prices of goods and affordability, there is this
element that you know, he's only been in office a year,
so yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You own the economy. His own campaign and administration has
said we own it at this point. I mean, you
can't do it. Remember, right in the first year of
Trump's administration. The Democrats were still trying to claim all
of Trump's successes were because of Obama. So we can't
play the end ring around the rosie here. He does
own it at some point. Now he has a big
mestic cleanup for sure. But yeah, some of his policies
(09:48):
have contributed to grocery store prices. That's why they cut
the banana tariffs and the coffee tariffs.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Tony, which of these things are you more excited for
as somebody with a nightly program. Crockett's Senate run or
two more years of Jimmy Kimmel on ABC.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, I would have to start watching Jimmy Kimmel on
ABC in order to have, you know, mine have an
opinion there. Jasmine Crockett's endless entertainment. I mean, Ben Shapiro's
got AOC. You know you've got ilhan Omar for Benny Johnson,
I have Jasmine Crockett, and boy, when the Tyler Perry
producers make fun of how awful you are at stuff,
(10:27):
you know, it's that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
One more thing here before we let you go. You
sent me a message today about this DOJ Civil Rights
Division decision. This is coming from a har meet Dylan,
friend of the program. We've had her on the show
a couple different times. Walk me through what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So the DOJ is ending a practice that has screwed
over millions of people. Essentially for years, when the Department
of Justice would rule on a discrimination case, they would
look at this thing called disparate impacts, which means they
would say, okay, how many people feel that the person
was rarist, and then they would count the nerve hands
raised and go, oh, well, then it must be racist.
(11:09):
Then they're ending that crap. Just because you go to
the DMV and you hated your experience does not mean
you were racially discriminated against.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It just means the DMV sucks.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So what the DJ is now doing is saying, look,
you think you are discriminated against, prove it. You're well,
I feel it was racist. Is no longer enough. You
need to prove it. And that's a very, very big
deal because people's lives have been.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Ruined over this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Remember the cake baker in Colorado who they harassed continually
because he wouldn't bake the gay cake. That era is
coming to an end, thank God.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think Harmeiek Dylon does a great job. Like we've
been pretty critical of some of the people in leadership
positions with the DOJ, you know, Cash Betel. Maybe he's
been underwhelming, maybe he hasn't been Pam Bondy, same thing.
But it feels like you could you always count on
hard meat Dylan to get stuff done.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Harmy Dylan was the very first person to reach out
to me amid the Indianapolis Public schools scandal and said,
and I quote hit them in the knees with a
baseball bat. And I did you know, hate the mentor
encouragement right there?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hey, real quick, just we got about ninety seconds here,
a little bit less. Your take on the conservative infighting
on social media, whether it be some of the conservative
name you can think of, It seemed like there's some
infighting going on right now. I'd like to get your
take on that.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
For everyone who's not habitually on Twitter, it's not happening.
It's really overblown.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, the polling doesn't show it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I'm sorry Nick Foytsiday's in candas. I have caught
them repeatedly using tens of thousands of online bots.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So yeah, all right, wow.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
In terms of like their followers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh, followers, common engagement, viewer engagement, half of Candace podcast
audiences from Africa.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Sorry, just the truth.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Hey man, there's a chance you could be Indianapolis radio history. Tonight.
This may be our last day in this building, Tony,
and even though you're not physically in the building, your
show would be the last one that airs before we
officially switch over to the new radio station building. I
don't know, I'm a radio nerd. I think that's kind
(13:16):
of neat. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I think that I may have already stolen Mike Pence's
chair and oh no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, I've hidden it. There's no way I hid that
thing in my office. It's coming with me, baby.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Congrats guys, Congrats on the move.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
What's coming up tonight?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh tonight, we're making fun of Obamacare and we're bringing
on one of these people who's going to totally replace
it to freaking explain themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Tony Kennett cast seven o'clock right after our show ninety
three WIBC Tonas. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Brother, You guys are the best.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.
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