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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, I would be the Nigel from the Hammer and
Nigel Show. That would be the Nigel the Hammer, the
Jason Hammer right over there with a very special in studio.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Guest, the Traffic Beasts.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, Matt Bear joins us the best traffic reporter in
all of Central Indie.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Man, how are you doing? Matt?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Thanks for the kind words.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
It's great to be here on this huge, huge weekend
coming up for downtown Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So I used to have for some reason, my wife
and her friends would always have their their friends Christmas
party downtown on this weekend with the Big Ten championship,
and I would shake my head every time for years,
what are UK's doing? Are you crazy?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And that's about teams we didn't even care about. I know,
I know, Jack Iowa be here in.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Michigan State this year. Kurt Signetti and those Indiana Hoosiers
are involved.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Matt.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We have the local kids in town and this is
gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's like the FFA is in town. All the little
kids are.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Running around, except instead of teenagers looking up at the buildings,
we're gonna have drunk people looking up at the buildings,
and those are the ones you have to walk out
for on the crosswalks. Okay, And I know not everybody's
going to be driving downtown this weekend. It's a good
idea not to drive downtown this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man, oh man.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was already starting with I was kevin in a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
We had people with their jerseys on and things and
crossing the streets.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You know, they're just having fun.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I'm not mad about it, but there was some jaywalking
and I don't want to hit anybody today.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's kind I'm telling you, man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I know everybody thinks it's going to be some IU
home game. Buckeye fans travel well, like they're no newbies
to this whole Big Ten Championship, traveling with their team thing.
They go hard in the paint. Man, buck guys are
going to be represented tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Are they well behaved? Are they going to behave themselves
in downtown?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I can't promise that, Okay, whatever joking aside, though, downtown tomorrow, Matt.
In addition to cold temperatures, we still got a little
bit of snow, some ice still on the roads. There's
a big time basketball game, there's a big time football game,
and people are shopping, people are going on date night.
(02:11):
It's downtown Indie on a Saturday. It's gonna be a
little congested, so to speak.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
No, it's gonna bedlom. It's going to be the wild,
wild West. And I do like it when it's like that.
As far as the people out having a good time
having a party. You know, I don't party, but everybody
else can, and I love to see it. I mean,
it end's going to be a good weekend in downtown.
But again, you have to be careful and you have
to still watched these and I need to say this
just because it was such a week on the interstates.
(02:39):
I mean, you got to watch those rams and bridges
when you're coming downtown bad. It has been bad. We've
had crashes on rams. We have one active right now
at Sam Jones, and they've been slick.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I've seen it myself. I've kind of crap.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I still can't make it up my driveway. The man
man still can't get in the brick. Had to last night.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I had to kind of turn into the yard to
get traction from the snow in the grass because I
was late shoveling my concrete driveway. And it's just a
solid sheet of ice, So I know the feeling.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, And Matt, I'm sure you probably get the feedback
in the traffic center. The salt truck drivers, they get
a lot of crap because sometimes they're not out when
people think they should be, or they're not on the
streets that people think that they should be. We said
this what we were doing, like the coverage that night
when hell was breaking loose. When we criticize the salt trucks,
(03:32):
we're not criticizing the people that are actually behind the wheel,
We're criticizing the decision makers, right because those people are
working like twelve something hour shifts in a row.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, i'mb right there with you.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's like whatever I report a semi crash, I'm not
mad at the semi driver.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
You know, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
And a lot of times with these salt guys in
delivering the salt, you put it down beforehand. But as
far as the plowing goes, you have to wait to
a certain time to be able to start plowing with
the snow.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And we you know these like when.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Does Matt Maher start plowing in the forget in the snow?
Just you could have stopped the.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Plowing medical into hell of a drug.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That should be your next podcast, Plowing with Matt Bear.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's a dating show.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
You're plowing in the snow with Mad Bear. Seven step
process number one. Yeah, it's nobody's yellow. Get the plow
drivers and they're cool and they're working their butts off.
And remember a lot of times when we get upset
about the salt, somebody has to make a decision to
put the salt down.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And sometimes they're like, well, we don't really believe the forecast.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
No salt goes down and everybody is sliding all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The decision makers have their phone and their text message
is set to silent. Whenever I see somebody that'll set
their text messages to silent, you best believe I'm trying
to override that bad boy.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And sometimes you know, every time one of my good
friends has something that says SO and so is driving
and I'm like, well, you know, SO.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Needs to get a hold of the person that's trying.
We really need to get a hold of this perduel
has that's setting on it. I've tried to add dull.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I've tried to text Abdul before excuse me, I'm driving.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I'll call you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Back by the way, speaking of plowing. Twenty five more
likes and we'll get that Ai Alison video. Oh at
some point on our social media twenty five more likes
on the YouTube stream. And if that's not a motivating
factor for you, Matt bears on the YouTube stream right now,
And Matt, you look like a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I was kind of just joking around with it. Was
I was flexing for the YouTube jat It's yeah, thanks man.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's it's like, how do you stay in shape during
the holidays, Like it's easy to just go on a
bender and blame it on Thanksgiving. Yeah, And I found
myself trying to do that because I'm going to weight
loss journey.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm not quite as buff as you are, Matt, but
you're not. Believe it or not, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
But I found myself trying to behave a little bit
more but still enjoying life and enjoying food.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
That's excellent. That's what you have to do. Sometimes. I'm
blessed enough for somebody to come up to me in
the gym and ask what I do, and to me,
it's just okay, how is this radio show so?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But then they when they grab your shoulder and whisper
that in your ear, it's always weird.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
No you do, I tell them, I say, I won't
answer unless you whisper the question of my and you
kind of tickle my ear too. It's like this radio show,
how why is it so good? Well, it's because of consistency.
You guys work together, and you know that's the same
thing with anything you do, like exercise. You have to
be consistent. In this December, I don't see for a
single reason I'll stray from my diet or my regime
(06:30):
or anything else.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's all it is. It's it's what hard work is.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, do you have to cheat day?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Not really like I mean as a recovering alcoholic. I
realize that's a a whole different animal. You can't cheat
on that at all. But can you have a piece
of pumpkin pie with some extra whipped cream every once
in a while?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
The problem I have is is, and I had this
before I officially certified alcoholic.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Is with certified this paperwork you have to fill out.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Somebody is getting a six figure salary to see Matt
Baar pantils on the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh it's official, fifty more lights, that's all we need.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
But yeah, it's uh, it's just I'll have a cheap day,
but it won't be anything significant.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, I'll go get a euro across the street from
the ground the garage. Yeah, there's a great place to
get a euro, and I'll go get a euro. But
like you're talking about here, I mean, it does you
know good if you're going to enjoy your life, man,
you know, so eat the price. So you have kids
that you know want in college Asia you can have fun.
And I know nothing about being a pair, but it
sounds like a good life. It sounds like you're doing
all the right things.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Man, I appreciate that bad as totally. And look, it's
okay to ask for help, whether it's in weight loss
or in recovery. I feel like these are some of
the same principles, like fatties like me, recovering alcoholics like you.
I got to a point to where I couldn't lose
any more weight on my own, so I reached out
to Premier Weight Loss. Now full disclosure, I've become an
(07:57):
advertiser with Premier Weight Loss.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But if you call.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I decided to sign up and use the product and
it's been beneficial to me.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Well, these products and like with Premiere weight loss you're
talking about it, I mean they start good habits. When
somebody talks to me, I will always say, go see
a professional with my Jim the YMCA. You get a
couple of sessions and we are not affiliate to why,
but you can go and learn the right way to
do things and guys, nothing, I've never been successful at
(08:24):
anything unless I had help, unless somebody showed me the
right way.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And I get that a lot here at WIBC.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Have you learned as you've gotten older it's easier to
ask for help Because when I was younger, and this
is something that I dealt with in my professional career,
I was a one man band. I didn't want to
rely on anybody. I plan for everything by myself. I
was a control freak. Nige knows this. I still deal
with this a little bit. But as I've gotten older,
(08:51):
it's become a little easier to rely and ask for help.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That makes absolute sense.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
We mature, we have experiences that make us know that, hey,
I can't do this on my own. And especially when
we're at the darkest, you know a little bit. It's
it's fair and I don't want to bring down the
Friday part of you or anything, but you know, when
you're really in the yeah, you're you do ask for help,
and it's it's just in the evidence that if you
want to proceed to the next level and something, or
(09:17):
if you just want to become a better person, whatever
the reason is, for yourself, for your wife, for your kids, you.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Go out and you say, how do I do this?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And hopefully you're asking the right people, the people you
trust the most, and hopefully that person's going to be
a friend or family, a member enough to say, here's
what you're doing wrong in my opinion, and here's what
you can do better.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because that's a good friend, right there. Matt Bear, what
clip do we have?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
We have Supporting I'm on this podcast Fellas Allison.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's called Supporting.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Sobriety and it's for the caregiver of the recovery now
caholic and addict Dad. I do this with my glorious
partner rat Hedrick, who does our morning news here a
WIBC Supporting Sobriety podcast and actually tomorrow we're taping an
episode on Christmas and inviting your addicts. Still in use
Christmas festivity, So just gonna be good stuff for the caregiver.
(10:03):
And one of the things the holidays are just it's
brutal for people that are in recovering people that are not.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Sometimes it's tough.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
There's so much families, maybe some fractured relationships, and it's
tempting to kind of think, Okay, this is a little
much for me to handle. I think I'm gonna go
steal a drink here, and it's very.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Possible for that to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Make a poll, yeah, sneak a little bit of a poll.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And you know, anytime you think about that, there's always
a consequence. And one of those consequences is people not
seeing you as a responsible person anymore.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
And I'll tell you what, man, when my father first
came into my life, I was a wreck.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I was.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
A wreg.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
He was a bank, he was a credit card.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah he was. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I tried to extort him. I tried to extort him
for everything I thought that he owed me.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
That's the fun thing about addiction is that you never
do anything wrong. Sure, yeah, everybody owes you all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, you know I was a victim. Yeah, oh yeah,
I'm a victim. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
People have treated me like crap my whole life and
this is not my fault. And that's the interesting thing
when we start to attack our emotions and I don't
want to use the word attack, but you know, deal
with our emotions.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So, Matt, we're up against it here. But where can
we find this podcast? Because it helps so many different
types of people. I love this. Where can we find it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Supporting sobriety at any major podcast provider? I use Apple
and Spotify. You can find it anywhere at sobriety, Underscore,
pod Onix, and Instagram.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
We'd love to have you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're the best. Thank you, thanks for having me.
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, I would be the Nigel from the Hammer and
Nigel Show. That would be the Nigel the Hammer, the
Jason Hammer right over there with a very special in studio.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Guest, the Traffic Beasts.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, Matt Bear joins us the best traffic reporter in
all of Central Indie.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Man, how are you doing? Matt?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Thanks for the kind words.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
It's great to be here on this huge, huge weekend
coming up for downtown Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So I used to have for some reason, my wife
and her friends would always have their their friends Christmas
party downtown on this weekend with the Big Ten championship,
and I would shake my head every time for years,
what are UK's doing? Are you crazy?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And that's about teams we didn't even care about. I know,
I know, Jack Iowa be here in.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Michigan State this year. Kurt Signetti and those Indiana Hoosiers
are involved.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Matt.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We have the local kids in town and this is
gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's like the FFA is in town. All the little
kids are.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Running around, except instead of teenagers looking up at the buildings,
we're gonna have drunk people looking up at the buildings,
and those are the ones you have to walk out
for on the crosswalks. Okay, And I know not everybody's
going to be driving downtown this weekend. It's a good
idea not to drive downtown this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man, oh man.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was already starting with I was kevin in a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
We had people with their jerseys on and things and
crossing the streets.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You know, they're just having fun.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I'm not mad about it, but there was some jaywalking
and I don't want to hit anybody today.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's kind I'm telling you, man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I know everybody thinks it's going to be some IU
home game. Buckeye fans travel well, like they're no newbies
to this whole Big Ten Championship, traveling with their team thing.
They go hard in the paint. Man, buck guys are
going to be represented tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Are they well behaved? Are they going to behave themselves
in downtown?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I can't promise that, Okay, whatever joking aside, though, downtown tomorrow, Matt.
In addition to cold temperatures, we still got a little
bit of snow, some ice still on the roads. There's
a big time basketball game, there's a big time football game,
and people are shopping, people are going on date night.
(02:11):
It's downtown Indie on a Saturday. It's gonna be a
little congested, so to speak.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
No, it's gonna bedlom. It's going to be the wild,
wild West. And I do like it when it's like that.
As far as the people out having a good time
having a party. You know, I don't party, but everybody
else can, and I love to see it. I mean,
it end's going to be a good weekend in downtown.
But again, you have to be careful and you have
to still watched these and I need to say this
just because it was such a week on the interstates.
(02:39):
I mean, you got to watch those rams and bridges
when you're coming downtown bad. It has been bad. We've
had crashes on rams. We have one active right now
at Sam Jones, and they've been slick.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I've seen it myself. I've kind of crap.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I still can't make it up my driveway. The man
man still can't get in the brick. Had to last night.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I had to kind of turn into the yard to
get traction from the snow in the grass because I
was late shoveling my concrete driveway. And it's just a
solid sheet of ice, So I know the feeling.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, And Matt, I'm sure you probably get the feedback
in the traffic center. The salt truck drivers, they get
a lot of crap because sometimes they're not out when
people think they should be, or they're not on the
streets that people think that they should be. We said
this what we were doing, like the coverage that night
when hell was breaking loose. When we criticize the salt trucks,
(03:32):
we're not criticizing the people that are actually behind the wheel,
We're criticizing the decision makers, right because those people are
working like twelve something hour shifts in a row.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, i'mb right there with you.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's like whatever I report a semi crash, I'm not
mad at the semi driver.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
You know, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
And a lot of times with these salt guys in
delivering the salt, you put it down beforehand. But as
far as the plowing goes, you have to wait to
a certain time to be able to start plowing with
the snow.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And we you know these like when.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Does Matt Maher start plowing in the forget in the snow?
Just you could have stopped the.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Plowing medical into hell of a drug.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That should be your next podcast, Plowing with Matt Bear.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's a dating show.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
You're plowing in the snow with Mad Bear. Seven step
process number one. Yeah, it's nobody's yellow. Get the plow
drivers and they're cool and they're working their butts off.
And remember a lot of times when we get upset
about the salt, somebody has to make a decision to
put the salt down.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And sometimes they're like, well, we don't really believe the forecast.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
No salt goes down and everybody is sliding all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The decision makers have their phone and their text message
is set to silent. Whenever I see somebody that'll set
their text messages to silent, you best believe I'm trying
to override that bad boy.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And sometimes you know, every time one of my good
friends has something that says SO and so is driving
and I'm like, well, you know, SO.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Needs to get a hold of the person that's trying.
We really need to get a hold of this perduel
has that's setting on it. I've tried to add dull.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I've tried to text Abdul before excuse me, I'm driving.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I'll call you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Back by the way, speaking of plowing. Twenty five more
likes and we'll get that Ai Alison video. Oh at
some point on our social media twenty five more likes
on the YouTube stream. And if that's not a motivating
factor for you, Matt bears on the YouTube stream right now,
And Matt, you look like a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I was kind of just joking around with it. Was
I was flexing for the YouTube jat It's yeah, thanks man.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's it's like, how do you stay in shape during
the holidays, Like it's easy to just go on a
bender and blame it on Thanksgiving. Yeah, And I found
myself trying to do that because I'm going to weight
loss journey.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm not quite as buff as you are, Matt, but
you're not. Believe it or not, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
But I found myself trying to behave a little bit
more but still enjoying life and enjoying food.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
That's excellent. That's what you have to do. Sometimes. I'm
blessed enough for somebody to come up to me in
the gym and ask what I do, and to me,
it's just okay, how is this radio show so?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But then they when they grab your shoulder and whisper
that in your ear, it's always weird.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
No you do, I tell them, I say, I won't
answer unless you whisper the question of my and you
kind of tickle my ear too. It's like this radio show,
how why is it so good? Well, it's because of consistency.
You guys work together, and you know that's the same
thing with anything you do, like exercise. You have to
be consistent. In this December, I don't see for a
single reason I'll stray from my diet or my regime
(06:30):
or anything else.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's all it is. It's it's what hard work is.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, do you have to cheat day?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Not really like I mean as a recovering alcoholic. I
realize that's a a whole different animal. You can't cheat
on that at all. But can you have a piece
of pumpkin pie with some extra whipped cream every once
in a while?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
The problem I have is is, and I had this
before I officially certified alcoholic.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Is with certified this paperwork you have to fill out.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Somebody is getting a six figure salary to see Matt
Baar pantils on the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh it's official, fifty more lights, that's all we need.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
But yeah, it's uh, it's just I'll have a cheap day,
but it won't be anything significant.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, I'll go get a euro across the street from
the ground the garage. Yeah, there's a great place to
get a euro, and I'll go get a euro. But
like you're talking about here, I mean, it does you
know good if you're going to enjoy your life, man,
you know, so eat the price. So you have kids
that you know want in college Asia you can have fun.
And I know nothing about being a pair, but it
sounds like a good life. It sounds like you're doing
all the right things.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Man, I appreciate that bad as totally. And look, it's
okay to ask for help, whether it's in weight loss
or in recovery. I feel like these are some of
the same principles, like fatties like me, recovering alcoholics like you.
I got to a point to where I couldn't lose
any more weight on my own, so I reached out
to Premier Weight Loss. Now full disclosure, I've become an
(07:57):
advertiser with Premier Weight Loss.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But if you call.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I decided to sign up and use the product and
it's been beneficial to me.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Well, these products and like with Premiere weight loss you're
talking about it, I mean they start good habits. When
somebody talks to me, I will always say, go see
a professional with my Jim the YMCA. You get a
couple of sessions and we are not affiliate to why,
but you can go and learn the right way to
do things and guys, nothing, I've never been successful at
(08:24):
anything unless I had help, unless somebody showed me the
right way.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And I get that a lot here at WIBC.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Have you learned as you've gotten older it's easier to
ask for help Because when I was younger, and this
is something that I dealt with in my professional career,
I was a one man band. I didn't want to
rely on anybody. I plan for everything by myself. I
was a control freak. Nige knows this. I still deal
with this a little bit. But as I've gotten older,
(08:51):
it's become a little easier to rely and ask for help.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That makes absolute sense.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
We mature, we have experiences that make us know that, hey,
I can't do this on my own. And especially when
we're at the darkest, you know a little bit. It's
it's fair and I don't want to bring down the
Friday part of you or anything, but you know, when
you're really in the yeah, you're you do ask for help,
and it's it's just in the evidence that if you
want to proceed to the next level and something, or
(09:17):
if you just want to become a better person, whatever
the reason is, for yourself, for your wife, for your kids, you.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Go out and you say, how do I do this?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And hopefully you're asking the right people, the people you
trust the most, and hopefully that person's going to be
a friend or family, a member enough to say, here's
what you're doing wrong in my opinion, and here's what
you can do better.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because that's a good friend, right there. Matt Bear, what
clip do we have?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
We have Supporting I'm on this podcast Fellas Allison.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's called Supporting.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Sobriety and it's for the caregiver of the recovery now
caholic and addict Dad. I do this with my glorious
partner rat Hedrick, who does our morning news here a
WIBC Supporting Sobriety podcast and actually tomorrow we're taping an
episode on Christmas and inviting your addicts. Still in use
Christmas festivity, So just gonna be good stuff for the caregiver.
(10:03):
And one of the things the holidays are just it's
brutal for people that are in recovering people that are not.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Sometimes it's tough.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
There's so much families, maybe some fractured relationships, and it's
tempting to kind of think, Okay, this is a little
much for me to handle. I think I'm gonna go
steal a drink here, and it's very.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Possible for that to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Make a poll, yeah, sneak a little bit of a poll.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And you know, anytime you think about that, there's always
a consequence. And one of those consequences is people not
seeing you as a responsible person anymore.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
And I'll tell you what, man, when my father first
came into my life, I was a wreck.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I was.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
A wreg.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
He was a bank, he was a credit card.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah he was. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I tried to extort him. I tried to extort him
for everything I thought that he owed me.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
That's the fun thing about addiction is that you never
do anything wrong. Sure, yeah, everybody owes you all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, you know I was a victim. Yeah, oh yeah,
I'm a victim. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
People have treated me like crap my whole life and
this is not my fault. And that's the interesting thing
when we start to attack our emotions and I don't
want to use the word attack, but you know, deal
with our emotions.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So, Matt, we're up against it here. But where can
we find this podcast? Because it helps so many different
types of people. I love this. Where can we find it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Supporting sobriety at any major podcast provider? I use Apple
and Spotify. You can find it anywhere at sobriety, Underscore,
pod Onix, and Instagram.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
We'd love to have you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're the best. Thank you, thanks for having me.
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