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December 5, 2025 • 11 mins

It's the Big Ten Championship Eating Contest this weekend! This year the food champs take on the iconic Ale Emporium’s World Famous Hermanaki Wings! More info on the big event here 

  • Joey Chestnut, #1-ranked eater in the world, Westfield, Ind. resident
  • Miki Sudo, #5-ranked eater in the world and #1-ranked female eater in the world
  • Nick Wehry, #6-ranked eater in the world

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. My name
is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with a full studio.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Look at the greatness that we've got in this studio
right now, Like we've got medics, we've got promotional people,
and we've got the best in the world at what
they do. The Big ten Championship eating contest that's taking
place this weekend, the Hoosiers and Buckeyes. Man, we're fired
up for this one Ailed Emporium's world famous Hermanaky Wings

(00:30):
that is on the docket for this weekend. And joining
us in studio right now, some of the best in
the world at what they do. The number one rated
Ladies Champion. We've got Mickey Pseudo.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Mickey read got you again.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Nick Weary is with us, part of the power couple
here and no stranger to this program, Joey Chestnuts the Goat,
as you've been known as. Welcome back to Indie everybody.
How the heck are you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Doing very very well? You don't need to you know,
Joey's a Hoosier now, he's an he's one of us.
Oh yeah, he's putting a Fifth Winter here and I
love it. Fifth Winter here coming from San Diego. It
was fifteen degrees this morning, and Joey's.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Like, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's yeah, you don't give yourself a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, it truly be one of us. Now, you got
to start putting an as at the end of things
that don't necessarily need one. A hoodie is fine for
any weather, doesn't matter if it's one hundred and five
or negative ten outside. You throw on a hoodie, you're
good to go. So this year we are mixing it
up a little bit. Uh. The ale Emporium and our
Power from Alemporium is here as well.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
They brought some of their awesome Hermanaki wings. Herman from
Hermanaki is here. Herman the guys that did Hermanachy wings.
Is your last name Anaki? Please coll me that's the case,
Herman Aki.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's not.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
That's awesome, that's all.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Nuge and I have been doing eating contests on these
long before it was cool, I think, before the competitive
eaters started doing this. So Nick, let's start with you.
I was checking my Hammer and Nigel Instagram feed a
couple of days ago and I noticed on our Golden
Girl's parody video, I think you left the comment. You
had one of the first comments on our Golden Girls commercial.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh yeah, that's one of the best commercials, maybe the
best commercials I've ever seen. I feel like the Golden
Girls involved in anything sets the bar pretty high.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
So I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
It really does. Mickey, how were you like? You are
the goat at what you do here? Like, how do
you guys look as good as you do? Because Nick
looks like a million damn dollars. You look amazing, Like
I'm afraid if I have like four wings that are
on this table, I'm gonna have a beer billy that
looks like Chris Christi. How do you guys look the
way you do? The secret is the chicken wings? I

(02:52):
don't know, but I'm just I'm super excited to be here.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I want to finish off the year strong and be
great to beat Joey, you know on his own turf.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh that's right, fire here throwing it down.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be shocked. It'd be great for a
lot of things to have. But no, I'm pretty hungry.
This is uh, I'm excited. It's gonna be great. Tomorrow
will be a good day.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So Joey, when you find out you're going to be
doing one of these contests, Like, what's the recon involved?
Do you have to go to the restaurant find out
what it is you're eating? Do you eat it ahead
of time? Because this is something new. Last couple of years,
it's been the shrimp cocktail for this contest and now
it's the Alemporium Hermanachy wings.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
We're over a decade it was shrimp cocktail and it
took a long time to get build a tolerance. Uh
get my body used to the shrimp cocktail. But uh wings,
I've been eating wings for a while and every wing,
every wing restaurant's a little bit different. But Uhum is
the best in this area.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So what constitutes like in terms of a finished wing?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, all right, so wings are different. So they're gonna
give us tray of I think twenty five pounds of wings,
all cooked, and we put our bones back in there
and they weigh they weighed again, so they know exactly
the pounds we cons So if people are they have
a bad technique, they're they're not efficient, they might go
through more wings. But it's somebody with a really good
technique that they're getting more meat off.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Hey can I just say, just real quick, great heavy
me back in the hot Dog Eating Championship again. It's
great to make Mickey, congratulations on your win obviously, I
mean the best in the business plan. It was great
to have any back and there was no way I
was missing it. Thanks. Yeah, it was great back in
the seventies. It was good. Oh it felt good. It
felt good and you didn't have to.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Beat anybody up this year, which is great.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Nobody storm the stage, right, Yeah it was uh, yeah,
it was a good year. You know what next year,
next fourth of July will be I'll be I think
I have a plan for a record.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You're like the I the eating contest didn't have to
use my ak. It was a good day. Damn right,
damn right again. Joey Chestnut, Mickey Pseudo, Nick Werry Instudio,
they're all part of the the Hermanaky Wings Eating Championship
for the Big Ten Championship football game coming up this weekend.
Now Here, in just a moment, we're gonna have a

(05:08):
little contest here in studio and part of the IU
Radio Network. John Herrick will be doing the play by
play for this. We're so excited that the Hoosiers are
involved in this. I'm hoping you guys are gonna have
a big packed crowd to watch this event. Nick, walk
me through your process of getting ready for competition like this.

(05:29):
So wings is definitely a technique food.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
So get a you know, a handful of dozens of wings,
you know, get those. We're fortunate enough to have the
sauce sent out to us, so we can kind of
adjust to the flavor and see what you need to do.
And for me, it's practice like you play so set up,
you know, however many wings, you know, a few hundred
wings in the backyard. Put ten minutes on the clock,
have my liquids ready, throw the headphones in, and basically
just go to town for ten minutes. You know, maybe

(05:50):
spend the first minute kind of adjusting and getting my
technique back, and then just foot on the gas and acting.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's a regular contest. So like when you guys go
to a holiday party or something, do people just expect
you to like put on a show all the time, Like, oh,
there's a sharkutary trade. You guys do your stuff, you know,
like a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
We get a lot of questions and stuff about like, oh,
do we need to make.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Extra food and what have you. But for the most part,
we we treat everything normally.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
It's kind of like an account doesn't go and do
somebody's taxes.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
We have a holiday party, so it's a great pretty much.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Normally we leave work at work.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Like I love. They don't get asked do we need
to make extra food? But you and I get asked
that when we show up. Right, Oh, you're coming, I
should probably make more food.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh more chili please?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
All right, So John, we're gonna get John Herrick over
here from the Hoo's your radio network. John, go ahead
and take this microphone here, nudge you kind of set
everything up here.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Uh okay, so we are all doing I'm not doing this.
I have set out this eating challenge because I am
tired of embarrassing myself in front of Joey. I've I've
we've done the shrimp eating contest multiple times.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Finished his plate of food.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I can't emsing it's embarrassing for me out of his mouth.
I just I can't do that in front of you anymore.
I can't make a fool out of myself for so sorry.
So we have uh, Nick and Joey Mickey with a
plate of hermanocy Wings and Hammer will be joining in
on the competition. And here to announce, here to get

(07:24):
us kicked off, Here to get us started, is one
mister John Herrick, director a w IBC News.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Okay, everybody on your mark, get set eat. Everybody's chowing down.
Hammer's trying to clean his plate pretty quick. We've got
Nicky Pseudo, she's flipping the wings over. She's chewing him
pretty well. Weary, Oh my gosh, this technique he was
talking about earlier.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's cleaning it up really quick. He's already down three.
Joey chest done over there, making great progress.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
We've got Hammer still working on number one a little bit.
I know he's got too. He's got a couple down.
And Nicki Pseudo is still working on wear He's finished here.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Nick we barely.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I was watching Nick and Joey. I was watching Nick
and Joey very close. It was very close. Nick hadna Yeah,
he had it.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
He talked about that technique and he backed it up perfectly.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Wow, Hammer, how you doing over there? But get that microphone?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
He got three solid.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Mister Weary the winner, very good, very good, very nice
deeing over there? How you doing? How you doing let's hear.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know what I felt. I competed good, right, I
felt like I was in the mix there for a
little while. Because this is the equivalent of like a
fat kid in junior high playing one on one with
Lebron James and like.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
All these people here. So I think I did okay.
Wings are kind of an equalizer. It's uh, it's like
playing football and like really really bad weather. Yeah, it's uh,
it really kind of. It's going to be a close game.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Joey, can you hold that belt up to the YouTube.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Camera and win that best? Not my belt? He will?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
He won't. Glades hold that bad boy, that YouTube camera
right above Joey's head right there. That's what we're playing for.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
I have them hold it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So that's the belt you're playing for. Yeah, that's the belt.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So what time does all this take place? Tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's gonna be a fan fest at three point thirty.
If you have a ticket to the game. You have
a ticket to fan fest already, and uh, I think
the tickets are you can buy tickets there. I don't
think they're too much.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Can we get the inventor of the Hermanoky Wings place Royalty.
Royalty is a full name.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Please Herman Dale Perryman.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
And how did you come up with the Hermanoky wings?
They're addicting. I love the boneless, I love the bone in,
I love everything. Tell me about the h the Ale Emporium,
Hermanoky wings Man.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
I can find a favorite hot sauce that I like.
So I created my own and I took like a
gallon of ring of sauce and just added a bunch
of peppers and stuff like that, like a form of
base to it. And from that base, my first ring
was Hermit. And now what I would do is I
would like drop them and cook them, throw them on
the grill. I go up to the dining room and like, hey,

(10:02):
you want to try winning these wings. When I try
winning these wings, I would just samp them every day.
You know, I wings every day for a whole year,
just to meet you. I got these wings, right. That
was pretty much the story.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
You know.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
The people are saying, hey, could you make me a flavor?
You know I'd did that also, well.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Most famous wings in Indianapolis, for sure, no question. In
the region. It's screw regionally.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Want for the wings man, best wings in the world.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, hell yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Really nice to meet you. Man.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I feel like I don't know if you get paid
for every order of wings, but I felt I feel
like I put multiple kids through college for you. So
you're welcome. Okay, you're welcome, all right, man. Hey, thank
you guys so much for coming in. I can't wait
for tomorrow. It's such an exciting feeling in Indie right now.
I know it's colder than hell, but the Hoosiers have

(10:48):
a big basketball game tomorrow and then of course the
Big Ten Championship football game. We got the best competitive
eaters in the world here. Enjoy your time in Indie
and thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Thank you so much for having us.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
No, who's your seat? Yeah, the Hammering Night
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