September 11, 2025 • 45 mins
The Giants offensive line is, well, not good. So can the Cowboys defensive line take advantage? And just importantly, they struggled to contain Jalen Hurts last week. Can they stop Russell Wilson from breaking loose? And Nate’s philosophy is that if he has an A player and four B+ players on offense, he can make the rest work. Do the Cowboys have that? How about on defense?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thursday, looking live.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
At Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at the Star
of Frisco where there's a dancing armadillo on the sideboard
right there. How about that to eighty eight degrees.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The high's ninety one below is seventy.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I don't think if everyone looked out there and nobody
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Speaker 1 (01:23):
Its wee.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Couple of weeks, we'll have our our winner in here.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, how bad are we gonna feel like when they
just take the tickets and they bail on us on
that Monday, they won't they Should we have a backup?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Should have? Should we line somebody up just in case?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Just warm seat up?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I don't know, Nick, somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Nick always ready to jump?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Oh man, all right, got some news yesterday? Huh was
it yesterday?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Goodness?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Last night?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was the news, Kurt? What was the not so
good in it?
Speaker 7 (01:58):
By?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
First off? How are y'all doing it?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Thursday? How's it going? Oh great, man, we're good? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah about you?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Good? Good? How was it? What was it?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Not so good news?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Drum playing hurt? Duran blaying? Did I say that like
you said?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Drum bland?
Speaker 8 (02:13):
Short enough? You show a little bit.
Speaker 9 (02:16):
You know what, y'all need to stay out of my
school pronunciation?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Worse over there?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man, oh man.
Speaker 10 (02:25):
Sorry about that, Doran. Yeah, he's hurt his foot, his
other foot. He must a bunch of time last year. Yeah,
now he's got the other one. I don't know if
it's just bad luck or there's some foot issues there
with him.
Speaker 11 (02:36):
But yes, you feet not like like my little more
cute you know, somewhere around the full five six sizes
about ten eleven.
Speaker 8 (02:53):
Men get got corns and bunions?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Do men get bunions?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I got? I got?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:59):
Okay, spelling with you walking around trying to fit in
some shoes. That ain't right, bro, He'll get you quick
early age too.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Speaking of y'all, y'all hadn't seen nate shoe game lately.
So why why I didn't see it?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I ain't got no.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
I had to do a little things so I could.
But you know, I had a bunch of shoes. Man,
where'd you get them from?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
My brother? Okay?
Speaker 9 (03:20):
Head of security for Orlando Matching. You know all them
is bigfoot brothers. Yeah, and dudes over there, you know.
So I tell him sixteen hit me up?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You were sixteen?
Speaker 9 (03:32):
Yeah, I have fifteen, But in Nike is sixteen. Nike
is narrow, so I have to go with the night
and then the other. So what I saw just sixteen
all the time, so I won't be bunying up like
we was talking.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Did you have any idea how much those shoes were
worth that you had on yesterday?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Until I told you no, no, no, I can tell
you he had no.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
He had a pair.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
He had a pair of Nike lobsters. Which you can't
get them. They're one of those drop shoes. They've probably
been out for I don't know, four or five years.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
There weren't in the sixteen.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They're probably eight hundred do a thousand, but normal size
is six hundred to twelve hundreds, So those were probably
a thousand dollars and you had no clue it was orange.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
They felt good that they were orange.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
And master your shirt.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Hey, you keep wearing them that that's that's just strolling
around hand of a thousand. Everybody else got them in
in boxes and in climate control.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Storage with the stuffers in there. Make the hat just
rolling down.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm a little too old for that.
Speaker 9 (04:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
If you had caught me twenty years ago out of
been like check me out. But man, please, well I
love comfort, I respect it.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So how big of a deal is is this to
Duran Blayd? Now now you're you're kind of you're down
two corners with not a lot of depth.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
That's a question, Well, what do you do bring digs
back a little earlier? Maybe or.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
You got to ready ready, mean you know this is
this is a position that you were already there's already
alarm sounding in that position, right. And the thing that
Dig was, the diversatility that Digs gave you was when
you wanted to go into eleven personnel or your dime
(05:13):
or your nickel package, that Duran Blam would just kick
inside and play your slot corner. You bring in Kyrie
Elam and he would play your outside. You were using
Trayvon Diggs in a limited role. I think he played
with twenty seven snaps something like that last week, something
somewhere around that, around that that number. But now you
(05:34):
look at at and you're saying, we're out completely a corner, right,
so you.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Start thinking about, all right, where do we go?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You might have to look at darn blandago. I know
that we wanted to kind of walk you back into
this thing slowly, but you may have to go the
whole way.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
You might have Digs.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I'm sorry, excuse me, Diggs, Digs, you may have to
go the whole way.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You might not be able to just play certain downs
and distances. You know, now you know Kyrie Elam you're
over there. So who now you bring in? Do you
call up Zion Childrens who had a really good preseason?
Speaker 12 (06:07):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Do you go with Reddy Stewart. Do you go with
tro Quez? What's trock Quez's last name? Te queezy z Bridges,
Tequez Bridges. This is and a lot of these guys
don't have like a ton of game experiences, and so
what what was tilted in your favor? Because I believe
(06:28):
that the Giants offensive line is app solute trash.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
I'm talking about the gooch variety.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I was gonna say, if you're gonna be down a corner,
this is the game to be down a corner because
you should be so much pressure.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
But then I looked at I go, boy, you know
a name that we won't speak of.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
You would love to have that type of pressure player around.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Thank you for not letting us you.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
And so that's the one place.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
And you go.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
Robertson and then Neighbors. Those are two dudes who could
get active.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
They can get active, and so you know, I don't
know if they try to block it up differently or
whatever it is. Not having dron Bland opens up a
door that you didn't want to have open because of
the lack of death.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Is Russell Wilson mobile enough these days where you can
create opportunities by getting him out of the pocket and
kind of rolling him out and trying to keep some
of that pressure off of him.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
He's still mobile, Yes, yes, but I'm not saying he's
not Je Daniels right, like he's not.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
Well, he's never been right. But this is what bothers
me is only this second week. Yes, how can you
judge the quarterback when he had no time? I mean,
everybody wants to tell me how he don't have it.
He don't have that, and he don't have it. Then
(08:01):
when I turned the film, I saw him.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Throw back across the field right on time. But he
was standing clean.
Speaker 9 (08:08):
I mean, but then the next three or four plays
he didn't have time to think. So that inflamed neighbors.
Even in the first quarter. Why ain't getting the ball?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
If you looked at your offensive line once you go
to look at the film.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
This is one thing I will say about. If the
media and as a whole ain't got nothing right, they
got the offensive line right, it is not very good.
I'm not gonna talk about my fellow comrades and call
him trash, but.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He needs some help.
Speaker 9 (08:38):
And I don't think that Andrew's coming back, Thomas. I
don't think that's gonna he know how to effect that
the dude for the left tackle for the forty nine
ers had that's seventy one. Now when he comes back,
he changed the whole dynamics of the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
We got every wee.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
It changed the whole dynamics. I don't think he either
one of those guys so that that's the work in
progress because their offensive line is not only hindering the
progress of the quarterback that's in there.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They're scared to put that other kid in there now,
even though he can run all over the place. They
scared to put that guy in there.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
But coach know, like, hold on, if this dude can't
make a read, who's a veteran, a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
If he can't even get to his second read. Yeah, now,
yes he's not as mobile as he can't get around,
but you have to have a chance to least drop back,
at least get your head up.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And not look at the defensive line.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
When you watch that Giants film expensively, like, there are
times and I was just i was watching some more
run stuff this morning, and there were times where I'm
talking six seven, eight consecutive plays, firsts the center getting
dog walked, then it's the left guard.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
The right guard.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Like at every every play, there's another offensive lineman that
gets whooped.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
There's not one guy you got a target.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
And then it's like the think it's like you don't
even know where to pinpoint.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You're focused at like how because the worst the center
he gets.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I mean, what do you mean by dog walked?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Is when the dude just put his hands in your
chest and just take you and walk you right on.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Do we have a guy on the defensive line that
can do that?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
You got Kenny?
Speaker 9 (10:24):
You got Kenny. You got to hit the gap. Now
when you when you actually to hit a gap and go.
He he's very very good at that. His problem is finishing.
That's his problem is finishing the play. But he can
get off the rock.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Now, granted they had I'm not taking nothing away from
like you know, Washington has some good guys in front. Right,
they have Javon Kinlaw who we remember from and then
he got pains. Then they got Dran playing, so they
got some players up front. But it was I mean,
he was happening quick.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (10:56):
You know what I hate it's when the defensive lineman
think he I saw one defenseve Lindman didn't even try
to disengage with the guard.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He just took him. You know, it's like display here,
I'm just gonna take him and slang him. I don't
want I don't care what flay they He just took him.
I have got up off that ground.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Man.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Serious, it had been fifteen brou Oh that's disrespectful, man.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I remember Reggie help tossed me one time. Beat Reggie
White first of all, playing on rack tackle.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
No way if I was forced out by coach Johnson,
either that or be executed.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, cut, you know what I'm saying, do what you
gotta do.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
So I'm about that, trying to fight with this Hall
of famer. And he got me around about the second quarter.
He helped toss men. I almost blue Troy angle out.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I jumped up man and went to run at Reds.
I said, oh man, this if he helped, you know.
So I was like, Reggie, don't you ever do that again.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
So I said, the best I can get him is
custom because he was a pre.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Man.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
I hate that man when the defensive player say I'm
taking this playoff, I'm just gonna dog you, you know,
And that remember last year when Hoffmann told you, dext
ain't all that. Dex Got wined that. He said, we'll
find out after the game. Yeah, Dexter was all that, man,
(12:26):
He's that and more so.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Should the Cowboys as bad as the Giants offensive line is,
Should they have multiple sacks and hold.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Them under one hundred yards rushing?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Or is this gonna be is the game gonna be
won and lost whether they can dominate this offensive line.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I think that the Giants will realize early in this
game that they won't be able to run the football.
And it's not because the Cowboys have a dominant offensive line.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
Giants are bad up front.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
It's it's it's to be this early in the football
season and you're off the line be that bad.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
It's it's it's bad.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's bad. We have no go ahead. You got it,
you got We have been a nun.
Speaker 9 (13:11):
Just think of us and how I've been crying for
the last ten years. We need to get we need
to stop the run, and we haven't stopped it consistently yet,
So I'm still crying.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
They say, man, we need it. They've been saying nothing
off everything. Man, we've been for the last eight years.
Speaker 9 (13:25):
We have and they've been and even using as Jason
Carrolly said, they've been using first round assets to go
at these guys and have not put it together yet.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
And that's the thing about the NFL, right, The frustrating
thing is they got the guy in the in the middle, Right,
they got the guy in the middle that we want. Yeah,
they would kill to have our offensive line. It's just
it's just hitting on those rafts year and then that's
when you wound up like the Eagles, Right, you you
got it right three or four years in a row.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You made some major trades. Like that's the frustrating thing.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Every team's got a piece, at least a right, it's
getting like stacking them and putting them together and then going, Okay,
this is our window. Let's go all in with these
guys and go get some free agents.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And then that's how you win.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
The question I've always posed to everybody, and I've always believed,
if you give me one A player on offence and
about four B players, I can make the C plus's work.
That's how I've always felt. On defense, you give me
one A player and about six B players and you
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can make the.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
That's just how it felt.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
That was the Patriots way.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, you gotta have an a plus player though to
play like that, right, you got to have almost.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
If what I'm saying is this thing comes down to
and I hate to sign like coach, but say, are
you willing to sacrifice to do your job? I'm telling
you it was Tom Brady a defensive line and everybody else.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
How did you see the Brady era?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
No, it was it was like that, like you said,
they you know, you take your your very bros and
your Bruce Kis. Those are those weren't Hall of Fame guys.
Those were guys who did exactly what. Then they had
Vince Wolfork in the middle, who was a really good
star wart in the middle.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But they had this guys.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
I will say they always kept at least one good.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Corner, yeah, even one good three techniques.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They always had like a really good you know, whether
it was Ty Low whoever you want to put out there,
I always had a good corner.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
The linebacker was just you know my type of linebackers.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You know, give me, give me the white linebacker, sign
me up, sign your boy up for them right there
on my team. And then you know, offensively, they had
the year when they had Randy Marsh's here, but they
didn't want to suit Bowl that year, called the records.
But other than that, they just had guys out there.
They had you know, Jabbar Gaffney. They had you know,
(15:54):
uh uh Dion, Not not that Dion, but I'm drawing
the last name on his answer, that Dan Branch and
you know those guys.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
And just I'm gonna tell you how good they were.
I'm gonna tell how good New England was. Name me
any offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
They ain't met one a tight end?
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Yeah, Just name me any offensive line that won a
tight end. And I tell you, I followed the four
or five guys that left New England and went on
to play offensive line the other place.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And then people like he was all.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
Pro with with Tom, not with you though, you're not
that guy.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And I'm being honest.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
So and I wanted to always ask you that question
because if you if my best player is my quarterback,
I'm talking about mentally. Quarterback to me is not a position.
It's not an athletic position. To me, it's a mindset.
Can you make this here? Get to this here?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know? And so so.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
Where to the cowboy in your philosophy of one A
player four BS, one A player six BS.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
CD is the one A player for me.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
Dak to me is an A player because his knowledge
of the game and how he's worked to get his accuracy.
So I'm gonna give him a. He's an excellent leader.
I'm gonna give him a. Uh in any other offensive
with a B plus player, that's just me. CD is
that A plus guy which just been talking about. He
(17:22):
is that guy B plus for number three.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That's what I believe. Uh.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
B for your tight end. That's because now this first
game he's shown the.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Ability to block. You go back and look at the
tape he blocked.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
He has some whams and some some nice set to edge.
That makes me him a B player. You left your
left guard. He's a B plus.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Offensively, you're getting close.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Just been talking about it. You're getting You're getting close.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Defensive now defense defense, Uh, we need Tom Brady for
a break.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
More football.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Just I want to hear about that.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Bruh.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well you disagree and agree with the players, Yeah, can
we do that?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
When we come back, can we do that?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Three pumps.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Now he's been trying to talk the whole first segment.
Keep cutting them off.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're talking today.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
No, it's good. We like Nate. We like talking to Nate.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, Jesse gets a tweet and do all that stuff
while you talk.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So we're good. We're right back hanging out.
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were just talking about, uh, the Patriots. Oddly enough, if
you're just tuning in, and Nate was talking about building
a team, give him one A plus player and then.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What four about four, five or five B plus on offense?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, and you're good.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm good. Yeah, I can make it happen.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And he was just asking Jesse his opinion on the
Patriots back when Brady was there all the Super Bowl teams,
if he agrees with kind of dad, and if that's
how the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Were building, how you look at a player B player
you know, you.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Know, I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
The part of the problem is with the Cowboys is
that they've had some teams that one side of the
ball has had that where they have kind of run
into an issue. Is it is the exact same that
you thing that you're talking about is that they go
fac an opponent with both sides of the ball that
have that, yes, and so when they don't have it.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
It shows.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
And you know when those playoff games and those teams
that you know, as Nate always labels it, that are
equal to or greater than you, when they have what
he's talking about. It makes it very different. It puts
an extra strain on your one A players, your B
plus players, your B players. Now everybody has to when
you face it and then and they're complete in what
(22:01):
they do or close to completing what they do, the
pressure now to the pressure now is to be the
A plus player. You got to be A plus every time. Yes,
you know what I'm saying. Hey, the B players, you
gotta be B plus. Hey the C minus players, I
need you to be B minus players. And you need
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that to happen all at one time. That's why football
is the ultimate team game. It is the ultimate game
because when you think you don't need it is when
you absolutely need it, or when you could have ten
guy doing the right thing and one guy not doing
the right thing, and it spoils the entire bunch of
what you're trying to do. And the Cowboys they've had moments. Again,
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they've moments when they've been close. I mean they had
you know, offensive lines and running games and quarterbacks and
all that kind of stuff, and then you look on
the other side and then the defense is just putrid.
And so now you go up a team, you up
against a team that has what you can match you offensively,
but then you can't match them defensively, have su period defense.
And so now that's where they've kind of fall you know,
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victim to it. And over the last couple of years,
I think the teams here, over the last couple of years,
they won't publicly say it, but I believe it.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
They're in a soft rebuilt.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This is a soft rebuilt, man. And I've been believing
this for two years.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
And the thing and I'm gonna give you a perfect example,
because this coach is gonna have to answer for this
if this thing happened again, the Ravens can't have another
double digit collapse like that, right, you just that was
too big. That was a fifteen point lead. Don't get
me wrong, Josh went to swing in that thing. But man,
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that shoit never happen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You have too.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Many good players on your defense, not great players, but
you have too many good players on your defense for
that to happen, and that has happened to a couple
of teams that you guys were on earlier where you
had the great pre regular season records then get into
the playoffs. Like huh, That to me comes down to coaching,
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because you haven't, like Lebron, say yeah, we lost this
game during the regular season, but it put us in
a situation that we can work through.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And a lot of times you got to be able
to call on, hey, we played this game, we was
in this position. This is how we're gonna handle this.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Because the experience not always gonna you gotta sometimes help
a player experience something. What do you feel? Like a
lot of times, coach, how do y'all feel after this game?
He would look at us and this after the game, man.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I feel terrible, Like man, we feel.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Hold on to that feeling because when they come around again,
I'm gonna remind you when we practice and I'm gonna
let you know. So sometimes you got to have a
guy feeling.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
How did you feel?
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Lock in? Like if CD couple of games from now
have a drop, he got.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
To refocus itself. The great players do, they're not so great.
Sometimes I have to be reminded. So it's just about
what you feel and who you are. And then if
I'm the Giants offensive line, I was a part of
bad offensive lines.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Before and it's nowhere in the world.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Once I got dominated, I was like, this ain't happening
the meal again. So you know, I didn't care what
happened to the next guy.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I knew what was going to happen to me.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
So and so when Jimmy came in and he started
dumping lineman and the media on him to dump big
old fat eight, he said, no, no, this this elephant
can dance.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So I'm not getting rid of it. So you know, oh,
they call you all type of names.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
Back then, I went for the hall whatever, too fat
to do this, and I saw him over it Hooters
eating eighteen wins.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Saly Wen stopped, was who is back there? All right?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So I have a question for you, because I think
at the skill positions, you know, it's game of inches, right,
micro inches right?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
How you can be half.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
A step faster when you're an offensive lineman, maybe even
a defensive defensive lineman. I can still see a little
bit of a physical advasie, but when you're a man
of size and you're on the offensive line, like you said,
in your mind, you said, this isn't happening to me anymore?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Are there?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Is It just a matter of when you're that big,
technique and a mindset is there. Actually, some people are
more physically gifted, and it's.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
About understanding who you're gonna play. A defensive coordinator and
an offensive coordinator. Coach and why even position coaches they
gonna tell you this is what this team is trying
to do at this position, at the cornerback's position.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
This is how they're trying to play you. Now.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Granted, each player, depending on your ability, gonna get played
a little bit different. But I always played like John
Roand I saw another day at the Hall of Fame
deal with Charles Hayley. I'm looking at him, and one
dude said, man, what you looking at I was like, man,
that dude that ain't with two hundred and seventy pounds
was held on wheels. And my game with him was
I didn't care what was gonna happen. I'm on giving
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up a sack in the first half. I ain't care
I had to get a holding. I was not giving
up a sack, because once I got him to the
second he was mine the speed and the edge and
came off a little bit. We know, leaned on him
just enough to take that edge. Now I'm finnah start
dog walking him. As Jesse was saying, But if I
let this dude get a sack anywhere in that first half,
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I was. I was the rest of the day, it
was gonna be a mass scramble for me. And so
but I know I had to be technique sound, a
better the athlete for me had to be technique sound.
And whenever I could take a shot at him, say
my center, he comes down to one technique or either
coming to an inside two techniques on the inside of
my eye, and I know my center gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Post him up.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
I'm finna, I'm finna take my elboys, stick it right here.
Everything I got, I'm gonna try to lift him off
the ground.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And power driving.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
And he got the elbows. Yeah, Because every time I
get a free shot like that, it's taking some off
his rash rush. That's what he lived for.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I knew that.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
And so every time I got to even we ran
a game, if he's coming first to the outside, then
the end is coming around. I tell hey too, he's
out wide, get me my hand. Twell, put a hand there.
And so when Toy turned back, because I'll be on him.
And when tou he turned back and that tackle, that
end get to a certain point me and we're just
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bull rushing him, try to take him to the ground,
trying to push him over a pole because we're trying
to take the edge off of him.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
We ain't trying to hurt him, but we're trying to
hurt him.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Yeah, that's how Yeah, Jerome Brown, I was just in
a dog fight. It was just straight panic from day
for the first place. I'll that's how good he was.
It like if I was playing Dexter, I was playing
them A ninety nine for the Rams, Aaron Donald brou
it was gonna be straight panic. Coach, Coach Johnson knew
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it and every coach and they ain't gonna have not
an ouncer technique today. He finna do whatever he can
he keep this dude off of Troy some games like that.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Man, So should they You we know Kurt loves PFF
right Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
They they have.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Dallas lineman ranked in They don't have a Dallas defensive
lineman ranked in the top sixty, they only have two
in the top one hundred.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
As far as.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Rushing the passer, is this offensive line so bad that
you don't even have to scheme to get pressure? Are
they still gonna have to scheme some stuff up to
get pressure with that lack of pressure in the first
game or is it even fair? Because the Eagles offensive
line is so good, it's hard to tell if this
is really who they are after one game, and this
game is probably not gonna tell you much either, right.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
It's a combination of both, because the Eagles offensive line
is really good, but there's also not a guy I
believe on this current defensive line for the Cowboys that
present to you great prass rushing ability. This is why
you need the a players that he's talking about, because
it frees up other guys to have these opportunities. But
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I don't want to keep beating the dead horse man
the Giants office. The line is bad and the thing,
and this is why the Bland injury worries me some
because the Cowboys are gonna play zone right So now,
most of the time when you're playing zone, that means
you're that means you have by strategy by schemes schematically
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decided that we're gonna drop more guys in coverage. That's
just what zone is. Zone is that we're gonna have
more guys that are in zones to cover the fifty
three to third of the field, which means you're only
going to be rushing four and then maybe you'll add
five a fifth in there. Well, that's the math. That
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still doesn't math right. The math still says five offensive lineman.
If you're rushing for and you're bringing the fifth, we good,
We're good. There is no there is no mismatch there.
So this is when you need those guys to you know,
you need the pass rush skills that you drafted Donald
Azarroku for to win because you're gonna have a one
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on one battle.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Can you win that battle?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Because if not, if I now have to start committing
the sixth and maybe the seventh. And they did a
couple of cornerback blitzes a week ago. My fear is
is that if Russell recognizes it and understand that the
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quick game is available to him, it's getting the ball
in the hands of of uh of neighbors and Wandlle Robinson,
who's a very shifty slot receiver, so that that that's
where that's where it comes about. This is when you
would love to be able to go and this is
this is the kind of thing that Matt ebnflus, his
defense has been predicated on, is that my front four
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guys are rush guys, all of them.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
They're up the field, they get there, get up the field.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Kind of rushers, because you want to be able to
to to to produce that level of pressure on the
quarterback with just the front four.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
I'm interested to see.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Again, it's still early in this season, so I don't
have a ton of I don't I don't have a
ton of information from this unit to be able to
accurately assess.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
How they're going to handle it.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
And and and if if the Giants offensive lineman have
anything like Nate, they're gonna say to themselves, I can't
let that get done in me two weeks in a row.
Like they had to go back and watch film and
go this is pathetic guys like somebody. And normally offensive
line coaches are usually the foul mouth at one of
the who they don't they don't they don't pull too
many punches, So that that's what I worry a little bit.
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But if if the same offensive line shows up in
week two, that for the giants that were there in
week one, there can be some sacks to be made.
You got guys like Dante Fowler Junior. I think Kenny
Clark definitely gives you push up the middle as a
ROCKU Sam Williams. There are some guys who can get
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who can get around the corners or just knock a
guy over.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Are you worried that maybe I asked after the break break.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Or yeah, ask it down then, Jesse.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Well, last week they got killed by Hurts. They they
had pretty good pressure. They were like sixth in the
league credited with Yeah, but okay, so pressures, but they
couldn't contain Hurts. And and uh Russell had forty rushing
yards last week scrambling.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
So how do they.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Great question, we'll find out after help answer that too.
Oh good, Nate and Jesse tag team and.
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Speaker 3 (36:43):
Kurt, Yes, sir, your question was before we went to
break Well.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
In short, is there concern in containing well Russell Wilson
because I didn't dow very good job containing Hurts last week?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yes, And.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
To answer the question question now, how do you do it?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's when it comes back down to assignment alignment football,
which the Cowboys and Spots last weekend weren't good at
end's keeping, you know, holding their outside containment, linebackers flowing.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
To the right places.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
And that that that's why you saw Jalen Hurts being
able to break the break containment to get out of
the pocket and make some yards downfield. And Russell has
those abilities like again, he's no, he's no Jaydon Daniels,
He's no Jalen Hurts. He has the mobility still in
his legs that is at his veteran age that if
things break down right, if the pocket opens up and
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he sees a gap, he'll he'll he'll shoot it, He'll
take it. If if he's rolling out and it's the
corner he can turn, he'll he'll turn it, he'll take it.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
He'll get what he can.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
So you you have to be and that's and that's
the to me, that's the ability of what the zone
gives you is that it's it's a spot everybody has.
Everybody has a location that there's a to get to you.
If I'm the linebacker, I got hooked the curl. If
you know, if I'm the cornerback, what coverage are we in?
Speaker 8 (38:05):
We a cover three? Cool?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I got from where I'm standing all the way back,
you know, then I know, Liby, I got all the
way to the flat. So everybody has an assignment where
they're supposed to be in a zone. So if you're
doing things other than what you're supposed to in a zone,
in zone covers and zone defense, then you're freestyling. It's
not like when you're a man and man that things
can kind of you following a guy, he can make
some moves and now you're trying to work over things
and all that kind of stuff. Even when you have
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crossers and guys are switching.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I'm still hooked, I'm still curl, I'm still flat, I'm
still third, I'm still half. Whatever it is they can
do all they want to do. This is why I
gotta be and man, we gotta they Well, one became two,
two became one. They switched, they picked it. I couldn't
get over it. They all right, cool, we understand that.
But if I'm in zone, But the principles are what
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they are, and so you have to just have smart
football players out there that are doing what they're supposed
to be doing on those particular calls.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
And everything he says is very very true. The difference
was is this here Jalen had time to either come
from under the center by standing in the shotgun, he
had a chance to look up and survey a.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Lot of russ.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
He was like dropping back and continue to drop and
you got to take off. You don't know where the
holes are. He had a chance to say, oh my god,
No he didn't sland in here, let me go outside.
No he didn't get wild, Oh look at it, let
me go over here. He had a chance to survey
what he was doing. This guy last week, I don't
think he had many chances to survey what he was doing.
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So we had good coverage, but we can't never account
for that athletic quarterback if he has time to drop
back because I watch your TV and I'm like, you know,
whoever the announced was, Hey, he's just dropped back here
like the receivers cover all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You see Williams take off to the inside. Thank you, Williams.
Now now go fifteen game.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
So when you have a chance to survey and you're
not panicking, you know, you get a chance to kind
of see where you're going versus a guy that just
take off running, he'll know where the.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Holes at in the defense.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
As a quarterback, when you you know you've got what
two seconds, three seconds or less on every single play,
knowing that you're going to have a limited number of
plays where you're going to have time, how do you prepare?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
How do you prepare to know? All right, I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Have limited limited plays where I can actually have the time,
My receivers are going to be where they're supposed to.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Be when I'm still upright and I'm not having to
you know.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
But see you you're asking the question that if he
knows this, he can react to this. Russ didn't know
when the two seconds was going to be the one second.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
How do you prepare you don't like normal, and you
don't when it's there, it's there.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You don't.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
You don't because as a quarterback, you still have to
run to play. Yeah, you can't break away from the play. Oh, man,
I got to fit in this a one second. No,
you gotta drop back.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Try that.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That was my question.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, you have to run every play.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Yeah, it's gonna be blocked away.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
It's supposed to be blocked yeah, and then you adjust
if it ain't, you know, But.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
In the third quarter you're just like, damn, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
And that's sometime when guys get in trouble a little bit,
try to try to do too much predetermining things. Now
you're like, man, I don't got hit seven seven, eight times,
and this he ain't gonna hold up. And then he
don't hold up and you throw the ball and it's a
it's the linebacker sitting right there picked you know, guy's
not ready to receive the ball.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
That has got to be the worst feeling, I'm gonna
tell you. You know, you have the talent, both you
and your receivers, but you just don't have the time.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
And why when neighbors is spashing out on the side.
The first half of the first.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
And you can tell when the quarterback doesne had enough
when he threw it in this up shit and don't
even try to run after it.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Well you know enough or you know he's here. Yeah,
he is knocked down and it's come to help him up.
But he'll get to help up with a hand, and
I'll get up myself. You help you is what I'm down.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Here, Help me up now?
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Oh man, all right, Troy, thank you for not giving
up on ba Hey Jimmy, Yeah, hey man, Elephant cat dance.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, Well, before we get out of here, very very uh,
I don't know how else to put this. A very
uh memorable day in American history nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
How many years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Was it now?
Speaker 8 (42:41):
Twenty four?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Twenty four years ago? And we've talked about on the
show where we were at, what we were doing. But
I just I hope we never forget. I hope this
never just becomes a day. And you know, on social media,
everybody's about putting graphics up and sometimes to me it
feels like, you know, you.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Do it just to do it, but like we all
lived it.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
We were there.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
There's a whole generation that wasn't around when that happened,
and you know, it meant something to be an American,
no matter what your views were, no matter you know,
whatever you thought, you know it was. It was a
great place to live and it was worth defending. And
I hope we never forget that. Lots going on in
the world right now, it's a little bit of a
crazy place, but like you know, just remember all the
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people that you know, the first responders that were there,
the people.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
That lost their lives.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Just hope we never forget how we felt for those
of us that were around that day, and how much
it pulled us together. It made us proud to be Americans,
no matter color, whatever.
Speaker 9 (43:40):
You believe, under whatever, this is what you have to believe.
And this is where I changed. It helped change my
life me being you know followed christ is. The next
man does matter that no matter who I'm I could
you know, we as humans can look at one another,
walk ask when to a here person, say something, and.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Decide we don't like them.
Speaker 9 (44:04):
Never met him, never spoke to him, Try the other way,
Try the other way, Try speaking and try being courteous,
try to be an easy going The next man does
matter believe me when I tell you that.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Jesse, good seeing you, Nate, good seeing you, Kurt.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Remember Wilson this week don't matter.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. What are
we doing tomorrow? Phone calls? What do we want to do?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's on, y'all.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I'll come up with some stuff you want to.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Try to cancel you two days of the row.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Maybe a little hodgepodge, maybe a little tune in to
find out what we do tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
We don't even know. Chris, thanks to keep us on
their Josh, thanks for keeping him company.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Tomorrow, same time.
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Should have? Should we line somebody up just in case?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Just warm seat up?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I don't know, Nick, somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Nick always ready to jump?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Oh man, all right, got some news yesterday? Huh was
it yesterday?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Goodness?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Last night?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was the news, Kurt? What was the not so
good in it?
Speaker 7 (01:58):
By?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
First off? How are y'all doing it?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Thursday? How's it going? Oh great, man, we're good? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah about you?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Good? Good? How was it? What was it?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Not so good news?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Drum playing hurt? Duran blaying? Did I say that like
you said?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Drum bland?
Speaker 8 (02:13):
Short enough? You show a little bit.
Speaker 9 (02:16):
You know what, y'all need to stay out of my
school pronunciation?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Worse over there?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man, oh man.
Speaker 10 (02:25):
Sorry about that, Doran. Yeah, he's hurt his foot, his
other foot. He must a bunch of time last year. Yeah,
now he's got the other one. I don't know if
it's just bad luck or there's some foot issues there
with him.
Speaker 11 (02:36):
But yes, you feet not like like my little more
cute you know, somewhere around the full five six sizes
about ten eleven.
Speaker 8 (02:53):
Men get got corns and bunions?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Do men get bunions?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I got? I got?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:59):
Okay, spelling with you walking around trying to fit in
some shoes. That ain't right, bro, He'll get you quick
early age too.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Speaking of y'all, y'all hadn't seen nate shoe game lately.
So why why I didn't see it?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I ain't got no.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
I had to do a little things so I could.
But you know, I had a bunch of shoes. Man,
where'd you get them from?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
My brother? Okay?
Speaker 9 (03:20):
Head of security for Orlando Matching. You know all them
is bigfoot brothers. Yeah, and dudes over there, you know.
So I tell him sixteen hit me up?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You were sixteen?
Speaker 9 (03:32):
Yeah, I have fifteen, But in Nike is sixteen. Nike
is narrow, so I have to go with the night
and then the other. So what I saw just sixteen
all the time, so I won't be bunying up like
we was talking.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Did you have any idea how much those shoes were
worth that you had on yesterday?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Until I told you no, no, no, I can tell
you he had no.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
He had a pair.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
He had a pair of Nike lobsters. Which you can't
get them. They're one of those drop shoes. They've probably
been out for I don't know, four or five years.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
There weren't in the sixteen.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They're probably eight hundred do a thousand, but normal size
is six hundred to twelve hundreds, So those were probably
a thousand dollars and you had no clue it was orange.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
They felt good that they were orange.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
And master your shirt.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Hey, you keep wearing them that that's that's just strolling
around hand of a thousand. Everybody else got them in
in boxes and in climate control.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Storage with the stuffers in there. Make the hat just
rolling down.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm a little too old for that.
Speaker 9 (04:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
If you had caught me twenty years ago out of
been like check me out. But man, please, well I
love comfort, I respect it.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So how big of a deal is is this to
Duran Blayd? Now now you're you're kind of you're down
two corners with not a lot of depth.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
That's a question, Well, what do you do bring digs
back a little earlier? Maybe or.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
You got to ready ready, mean you know this is
this is a position that you were already there's already
alarm sounding in that position, right. And the thing that
Dig was, the diversatility that Digs gave you was when
you wanted to go into eleven personnel or your dime
(05:13):
or your nickel package, that Duran Blam would just kick
inside and play your slot corner. You bring in Kyrie
Elam and he would play your outside. You were using
Trayvon Diggs in a limited role. I think he played
with twenty seven snaps something like that last week, something
somewhere around that, around that that number. But now you
(05:34):
look at at and you're saying, we're out completely a corner, right,
so you.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Start thinking about, all right, where do we go?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You might have to look at darn blandago. I know
that we wanted to kind of walk you back into
this thing slowly, but you may have to go the
whole way.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
You might have Digs.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I'm sorry, excuse me, Diggs, Digs, you may have to
go the whole way.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You might not be able to just play certain downs
and distances. You know, now you know Kyrie Elam you're
over there. So who now you bring in? Do you
call up Zion Childrens who had a really good preseason?
Speaker 12 (06:07):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Do you go with Reddy Stewart. Do you go with
tro Quez? What's trock Quez's last name? Te queezy z Bridges,
Tequez Bridges. This is and a lot of these guys
don't have like a ton of game experiences, and so
what what was tilted in your favor? Because I believe
(06:28):
that the Giants offensive line is app solute trash.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
I'm talking about the gooch variety.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I was gonna say, if you're gonna be down a corner,
this is the game to be down a corner because
you should be so much pressure.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
But then I looked at I go, boy, you know
a name that we won't speak of.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
You would love to have that type of pressure player around.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Thank you for not letting us you.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
And so that's the one place.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
And you go.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
Robertson and then Neighbors. Those are two dudes who could
get active.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
They can get active, and so you know, I don't
know if they try to block it up differently or
whatever it is. Not having dron Bland opens up a
door that you didn't want to have open because of
the lack of death.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Is Russell Wilson mobile enough these days where you can
create opportunities by getting him out of the pocket and
kind of rolling him out and trying to keep some
of that pressure off of him.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
He's still mobile, Yes, yes, but I'm not saying he's
not Je Daniels right, like he's not.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
Well, he's never been right. But this is what bothers
me is only this second week. Yes, how can you
judge the quarterback when he had no time? I mean,
everybody wants to tell me how he don't have it.
He don't have that, and he don't have it. Then
(08:01):
when I turned the film, I saw him.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Throw back across the field right on time. But he
was standing clean.
Speaker 9 (08:08):
I mean, but then the next three or four plays
he didn't have time to think. So that inflamed neighbors.
Even in the first quarter. Why ain't getting the ball?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
If you looked at your offensive line once you go
to look at the film.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
This is one thing I will say about. If the
media and as a whole ain't got nothing right, they
got the offensive line right, it is not very good.
I'm not gonna talk about my fellow comrades and call
him trash, but.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He needs some help.
Speaker 9 (08:38):
And I don't think that Andrew's coming back, Thomas. I
don't think that's gonna he know how to effect that
the dude for the left tackle for the forty nine
ers had that's seventy one. Now when he comes back,
he changed the whole dynamics of the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
We got every wee.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
It changed the whole dynamics. I don't think he either
one of those guys so that that's the work in
progress because their offensive line is not only hindering the
progress of the quarterback that's in there.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They're scared to put that other kid in there now,
even though he can run all over the place. They
scared to put that guy in there.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
But coach know, like, hold on, if this dude can't
make a read, who's a veteran, a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
If he can't even get to his second read. Yeah, now,
yes he's not as mobile as he can't get around,
but you have to have a chance to least drop back,
at least get your head up.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And not look at the defensive line.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
When you watch that Giants film expensively, like, there are
times and I was just i was watching some more
run stuff this morning, and there were times where I'm
talking six seven, eight consecutive plays, firsts the center getting
dog walked, then it's the left guard.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
The right guard.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Like at every every play, there's another offensive lineman that
gets whooped.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
There's not one guy you got a target.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
And then it's like the think it's like you don't
even know where to pinpoint.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You're focused at like how because the worst the center
he gets.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I mean, what do you mean by dog walked?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Is when the dude just put his hands in your
chest and just take you and walk you right on.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Do we have a guy on the defensive line that
can do that?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
You got Kenny?
Speaker 9 (10:24):
You got Kenny. You got to hit the gap. Now
when you when you actually to hit a gap and go.
He he's very very good at that. His problem is finishing.
That's his problem is finishing the play. But he can
get off the rock.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Now, granted they had I'm not taking nothing away from
like you know, Washington has some good guys in front. Right,
they have Javon Kinlaw who we remember from and then
he got pains. Then they got Dran playing, so they
got some players up front. But it was I mean,
he was happening quick.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (10:56):
You know what I hate it's when the defensive lineman
think he I saw one defenseve Lindman didn't even try
to disengage with the guard.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He just took him. You know, it's like display here,
I'm just gonna take him and slang him. I don't
want I don't care what flay they He just took him.
I have got up off that ground.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Man.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Serious, it had been fifteen brou Oh that's disrespectful, man.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I remember Reggie help tossed me one time. Beat Reggie
White first of all, playing on rack tackle.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
No way if I was forced out by coach Johnson,
either that or be executed.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, cut, you know what I'm saying, do what you
gotta do.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
So I'm about that, trying to fight with this Hall
of famer. And he got me around about the second quarter.
He helped toss men. I almost blue Troy angle out.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I jumped up man and went to run at Reds.
I said, oh man, this if he helped, you know.
So I was like, Reggie, don't you ever do that again.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
So I said, the best I can get him is
custom because he was a pre.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Man.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
I hate that man when the defensive player say I'm
taking this playoff, I'm just gonna dog you, you know,
And that remember last year when Hoffmann told you, dext
ain't all that. Dex Got wined that. He said, we'll
find out after the game. Yeah, Dexter was all that, man,
(12:26):
He's that and more so.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Should the Cowboys as bad as the Giants offensive line is,
Should they have multiple sacks and hold.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Them under one hundred yards rushing?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Or is this gonna be is the game gonna be
won and lost whether they can dominate this offensive line.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I think that the Giants will realize early in this
game that they won't be able to run the football.
And it's not because the Cowboys have a dominant offensive line.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
Giants are bad up front.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
It's it's it's to be this early in the football
season and you're off the line be that bad.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
It's it's it's bad.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's bad. We have no go ahead. You got it,
you got We have been a nun.
Speaker 9 (13:11):
Just think of us and how I've been crying for
the last ten years. We need to get we need
to stop the run, and we haven't stopped it consistently yet,
So I'm still crying.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
They say, man, we need it. They've been saying nothing
off everything. Man, we've been for the last eight years.
Speaker 9 (13:25):
We have and they've been and even using as Jason
Carrolly said, they've been using first round assets to go
at these guys and have not put it together yet.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
And that's the thing about the NFL, right, The frustrating
thing is they got the guy in the in the middle, Right,
they got the guy in the middle that we want. Yeah,
they would kill to have our offensive line. It's just
it's just hitting on those rafts year and then that's
when you wound up like the Eagles, Right, you you
got it right three or four years in a row.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You made some major trades. Like that's the frustrating thing.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Every team's got a piece, at least a right, it's
getting like stacking them and putting them together and then going, Okay,
this is our window. Let's go all in with these
guys and go get some free agents.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And then that's how you win.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
The question I've always posed to everybody, and I've always believed,
if you give me one A player on offence and
about four B players, I can make the C plus's work.
That's how I've always felt. On defense, you give me
one A player and about six B players and you
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can make the.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
That's just how it felt.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
That was the Patriots way.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, you gotta have an a plus player though to
play like that, right, you got to have almost.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
If what I'm saying is this thing comes down to
and I hate to sign like coach, but say, are
you willing to sacrifice to do your job? I'm telling
you it was Tom Brady a defensive line and everybody else.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
How did you see the Brady era?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
No, it was it was like that, like you said,
they you know, you take your your very bros and
your Bruce Kis. Those are those weren't Hall of Fame guys.
Those were guys who did exactly what. Then they had
Vince Wolfork in the middle, who was a really good
star wart in the middle.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But they had this guys.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
I will say they always kept at least one good.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Corner, yeah, even one good three techniques.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They always had like a really good you know, whether
it was Ty Low whoever you want to put out there,
I always had a good corner.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
The linebacker was just you know my type of linebackers.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You know, give me, give me the white linebacker, sign
me up, sign your boy up for them right there
on my team. And then you know, offensively, they had
the year when they had Randy Marsh's here, but they
didn't want to suit Bowl that year, called the records.
But other than that, they just had guys out there.
They had you know, Jabbar Gaffney. They had you know,
(15:54):
uh uh Dion, Not not that Dion, but I'm drawing
the last name on his answer, that Dan Branch and
you know those guys.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
And just I'm gonna tell you how good they were.
I'm gonna tell how good New England was. Name me
any offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
They ain't met one a tight end?
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Yeah, Just name me any offensive line that won a
tight end. And I tell you, I followed the four
or five guys that left New England and went on
to play offensive line the other place.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And then people like he was all.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
Pro with with Tom, not with you though, you're not
that guy.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And I'm being honest.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
So and I wanted to always ask you that question
because if you if my best player is my quarterback,
I'm talking about mentally. Quarterback to me is not a position.
It's not an athletic position. To me, it's a mindset.
Can you make this here? Get to this here?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know? And so so.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
Where to the cowboy in your philosophy of one A
player four BS, one A player six BS.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
CD is the one A player for me.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
Dak to me is an A player because his knowledge
of the game and how he's worked to get his accuracy.
So I'm gonna give him a. He's an excellent leader.
I'm gonna give him a. Uh in any other offensive
with a B plus player, that's just me. CD is
that A plus guy which just been talking about. He
(17:22):
is that guy B plus for number three.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That's what I believe. Uh.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
B for your tight end. That's because now this first
game he's shown the.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Ability to block. You go back and look at the
tape he blocked.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
He has some whams and some some nice set to edge.
That makes me him a B player. You left your
left guard. He's a B plus.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Offensively, you're getting close.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Just been talking about it. You're getting You're getting close.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Defensive now defense defense, Uh, we need Tom Brady for
a break.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
More football.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Just I want to hear about that.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Bruh.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well you disagree and agree with the players, Yeah, can
we do that?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
When we come back, can we do that?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Three pumps.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Now he's been trying to talk the whole first segment.
Keep cutting them off.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're talking today.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
No, it's good. We like Nate. We like talking to Nate.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, Jesse gets a tweet and do all that stuff
while you talk.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So we're good. We're right back hanging out.
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were just talking about, uh, the Patriots. Oddly enough, if
you're just tuning in, and Nate was talking about building
a team, give him one A plus player and then.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What four about four, five or five B plus on offense?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, and you're good.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm good. Yeah, I can make it happen.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And he was just asking Jesse his opinion on the
Patriots back when Brady was there all the Super Bowl teams,
if he agrees with kind of dad, and if that's
how the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Were building, how you look at a player B player
you know, you.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Know, I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
The part of the problem is with the Cowboys is
that they've had some teams that one side of the
ball has had that where they have kind of run
into an issue. Is it is the exact same that
you thing that you're talking about is that they go
fac an opponent with both sides of the ball that
have that, yes, and so when they don't have it.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
It shows.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
And you know when those playoff games and those teams
that you know, as Nate always labels it, that are
equal to or greater than you, when they have what
he's talking about. It makes it very different. It puts
an extra strain on your one A players, your B
plus players, your B players. Now everybody has to when
you face it and then and they're complete in what
(22:01):
they do or close to completing what they do, the
pressure now to the pressure now is to be the
A plus player. You got to be A plus every time. Yes,
you know what I'm saying. Hey, the B players, you
gotta be B plus. Hey the C minus players, I
need you to be B minus players. And you need
(22:21):
that to happen all at one time. That's why football
is the ultimate team game. It is the ultimate game
because when you think you don't need it is when
you absolutely need it, or when you could have ten
guy doing the right thing and one guy not doing
the right thing, and it spoils the entire bunch of
what you're trying to do. And the Cowboys they've had moments. Again,
(22:42):
they've moments when they've been close. I mean they had
you know, offensive lines and running games and quarterbacks and
all that kind of stuff, and then you look on
the other side and then the defense is just putrid.
And so now you go up a team, you up
against a team that has what you can match you offensively,
but then you can't match them defensively, have su period defense.
And so now that's where they've kind of fall you know,
(23:04):
victim to it. And over the last couple of years,
I think the teams here, over the last couple of years,
they won't publicly say it, but I believe it.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
They're in a soft rebuilt.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This is a soft rebuilt, man. And I've been believing
this for two years.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
And the thing and I'm gonna give you a perfect example,
because this coach is gonna have to answer for this
if this thing happened again, the Ravens can't have another
double digit collapse like that, right, you just that was
too big. That was a fifteen point lead. Don't get
me wrong, Josh went to swing in that thing. But man,
(23:41):
that shoit never happen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You have too.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Many good players on your defense, not great players, but
you have too many good players on your defense for
that to happen, and that has happened to a couple
of teams that you guys were on earlier where you
had the great pre regular season records then get into
the playoffs. Like huh, That to me comes down to coaching,
(24:05):
because you haven't, like Lebron, say yeah, we lost this
game during the regular season, but it put us in
a situation that we can work through.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And a lot of times you got to be able
to call on, hey, we played this game, we was
in this position. This is how we're gonna handle this.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Because the experience not always gonna you gotta sometimes help
a player experience something. What do you feel? Like a
lot of times, coach, how do y'all feel after this game?
He would look at us and this after the game, man.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I feel terrible, Like man, we feel.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Hold on to that feeling because when they come around again,
I'm gonna remind you when we practice and I'm gonna
let you know. So sometimes you got to have a
guy feeling.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
How did you feel?
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Lock in? Like if CD couple of games from now
have a drop, he got.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
To refocus itself. The great players do, they're not so great.
Sometimes I have to be reminded. So it's just about
what you feel and who you are. And then if
I'm the Giants offensive line, I was a part of
bad offensive lines.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Before and it's nowhere in the world.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Once I got dominated, I was like, this ain't happening
the meal again. So you know, I didn't care what
happened to the next guy.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I knew what was going to happen to me.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
So and so when Jimmy came in and he started
dumping lineman and the media on him to dump big
old fat eight, he said, no, no, this this elephant
can dance.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So I'm not getting rid of it. So you know, oh,
they call you all type of names.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
Back then, I went for the hall whatever, too fat
to do this, and I saw him over it Hooters
eating eighteen wins.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Saly Wen stopped, was who is back there? All right?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So I have a question for you, because I think
at the skill positions, you know, it's game of inches, right,
micro inches right?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
How you can be half.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
A step faster when you're an offensive lineman, maybe even
a defensive defensive lineman. I can still see a little
bit of a physical advasie, but when you're a man
of size and you're on the offensive line, like you said,
in your mind, you said, this isn't happening to me anymore?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Are there?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Is It just a matter of when you're that big,
technique and a mindset is there. Actually, some people are
more physically gifted, and it's.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
About understanding who you're gonna play. A defensive coordinator and
an offensive coordinator. Coach and why even position coaches they
gonna tell you this is what this team is trying
to do at this position, at the cornerback's position.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
This is how they're trying to play you. Now.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Granted, each player, depending on your ability, gonna get played
a little bit different. But I always played like John
Roand I saw another day at the Hall of Fame
deal with Charles Hayley. I'm looking at him, and one
dude said, man, what you looking at I was like, man,
that dude that ain't with two hundred and seventy pounds
was held on wheels. And my game with him was
I didn't care what was gonna happen. I'm on giving
(27:05):
up a sack in the first half. I ain't care
I had to get a holding. I was not giving
up a sack, because once I got him to the
second he was mine the speed and the edge and
came off a little bit. We know, leaned on him
just enough to take that edge. Now I'm finnah start
dog walking him. As Jesse was saying, But if I
let this dude get a sack anywhere in that first half,
(27:29):
I was. I was the rest of the day, it
was gonna be a mass scramble for me. And so
but I know I had to be technique sound, a
better the athlete for me had to be technique sound.
And whenever I could take a shot at him, say
my center, he comes down to one technique or either
coming to an inside two techniques on the inside of
my eye, and I know my center gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Post him up.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
I'm finna, I'm finna take my elboys, stick it right here.
Everything I got, I'm gonna try to lift him off
the ground.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And power driving.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
And he got the elbows. Yeah, Because every time I
get a free shot like that, it's taking some off
his rash rush. That's what he lived for.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I knew that.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
And so every time I got to even we ran
a game, if he's coming first to the outside, then
the end is coming around. I tell hey too, he's
out wide, get me my hand. Twell, put a hand there.
And so when Toy turned back, because I'll be on him.
And when tou he turned back and that tackle, that
end get to a certain point me and we're just
(28:29):
bull rushing him, try to take him to the ground,
trying to push him over a pole because we're trying
to take the edge off of him.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
We ain't trying to hurt him, but we're trying to
hurt him.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Yeah, that's how Yeah, Jerome Brown, I was just in
a dog fight. It was just straight panic from day
for the first place. I'll that's how good he was.
It like if I was playing Dexter, I was playing
them A ninety nine for the Rams, Aaron Donald brou
it was gonna be straight panic. Coach, Coach Johnson knew
(29:04):
it and every coach and they ain't gonna have not
an ouncer technique today. He finna do whatever he can
he keep this dude off of Troy some games like that.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Man, So should they You we know Kurt loves PFF
right Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
They they have.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Dallas lineman ranked in They don't have a Dallas defensive
lineman ranked in the top sixty, they only have two
in the top one hundred.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
As far as.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Rushing the passer, is this offensive line so bad that
you don't even have to scheme to get pressure? Are
they still gonna have to scheme some stuff up to
get pressure with that lack of pressure in the first
game or is it even fair? Because the Eagles offensive
line is so good, it's hard to tell if this
is really who they are after one game, and this
game is probably not gonna tell you much either, right.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
It's a combination of both, because the Eagles offensive line
is really good, but there's also not a guy I
believe on this current defensive line for the Cowboys that
present to you great prass rushing ability. This is why
you need the a players that he's talking about, because
it frees up other guys to have these opportunities. But
(30:20):
I don't want to keep beating the dead horse man
the Giants office. The line is bad and the thing,
and this is why the Bland injury worries me some
because the Cowboys are gonna play zone right So now,
most of the time when you're playing zone, that means
you're that means you have by strategy by schemes schematically
(30:46):
decided that we're gonna drop more guys in coverage. That's
just what zone is. Zone is that we're gonna have
more guys that are in zones to cover the fifty
three to third of the field, which means you're only
going to be rushing four and then maybe you'll add
five a fifth in there. Well, that's the math. That
(31:07):
still doesn't math right. The math still says five offensive lineman.
If you're rushing for and you're bringing the fifth, we good,
We're good. There is no there is no mismatch there.
So this is when you need those guys to you know,
you need the pass rush skills that you drafted Donald
Azarroku for to win because you're gonna have a one
(31:29):
on one battle.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Can you win that battle?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Because if not, if I now have to start committing
the sixth and maybe the seventh. And they did a
couple of cornerback blitzes a week ago. My fear is
is that if Russell recognizes it and understand that the
(31:53):
quick game is available to him, it's getting the ball
in the hands of of uh of neighbors and Wandlle Robinson,
who's a very shifty slot receiver, so that that that's
where that's where it comes about. This is when you
would love to be able to go and this is
this is the kind of thing that Matt ebnflus, his
defense has been predicated on, is that my front four
(32:16):
guys are rush guys, all of them.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
They're up the field, they get there, get up the field.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Kind of rushers, because you want to be able to
to to to produce that level of pressure on the
quarterback with just the front four.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
I'm interested to see.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Again, it's still early in this season, so I don't
have a ton of I don't I don't have a
ton of information from this unit to be able to
accurately assess.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
How they're going to handle it.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
And and and if if the Giants offensive lineman have
anything like Nate, they're gonna say to themselves, I can't
let that get done in me two weeks in a row.
Like they had to go back and watch film and
go this is pathetic guys like somebody. And normally offensive
line coaches are usually the foul mouth at one of
the who they don't they don't they don't pull too
many punches, So that that's what I worry a little bit.
(33:10):
But if if the same offensive line shows up in
week two, that for the giants that were there in
week one, there can be some sacks to be made.
You got guys like Dante Fowler Junior. I think Kenny
Clark definitely gives you push up the middle as a
ROCKU Sam Williams. There are some guys who can get
(33:32):
who can get around the corners or just knock a
guy over.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Are you worried that maybe I asked after the break break.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Or yeah, ask it down then, Jesse.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Well, last week they got killed by Hurts. They they
had pretty good pressure. They were like sixth in the
league credited with Yeah, but okay, so pressures, but they
couldn't contain Hurts. And and uh Russell had forty rushing
yards last week scrambling.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
So how do they.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Great question, we'll find out after help answer that too.
Oh good, Nate and Jesse tag team and.
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Speaker 3 (36:43):
Kurt, Yes, sir, your question was before we went to
break Well.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
In short, is there concern in containing well Russell Wilson
because I didn't dow very good job containing Hurts last week?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yes, And.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
To answer the question question now, how do you do it?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's when it comes back down to assignment alignment football,
which the Cowboys and Spots last weekend weren't good at
end's keeping, you know, holding their outside containment, linebackers flowing.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
To the right places.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
And that that that's why you saw Jalen Hurts being
able to break the break containment to get out of
the pocket and make some yards downfield. And Russell has
those abilities like again, he's no, he's no Jaydon Daniels,
He's no Jalen Hurts. He has the mobility still in
his legs that is at his veteran age that if
things break down right, if the pocket opens up and
(37:41):
he sees a gap, he'll he'll he'll shoot it, He'll
take it. If if he's rolling out and it's the
corner he can turn, he'll he'll turn it, he'll take it.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
He'll get what he can.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
So you you have to be and that's and that's
the to me, that's the ability of what the zone
gives you is that it's it's a spot everybody has.
Everybody has a location that there's a to get to you.
If I'm the linebacker, I got hooked the curl. If
you know, if I'm the cornerback, what coverage are we in?
Speaker 8 (38:05):
We a cover three? Cool?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I got from where I'm standing all the way back,
you know, then I know, Liby, I got all the
way to the flat. So everybody has an assignment where
they're supposed to be in a zone. So if you're
doing things other than what you're supposed to in a zone,
in zone covers and zone defense, then you're freestyling. It's
not like when you're a man and man that things
can kind of you following a guy, he can make
some moves and now you're trying to work over things
and all that kind of stuff. Even when you have
(38:27):
crossers and guys are switching.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I'm still hooked, I'm still curl, I'm still flat, I'm
still third, I'm still half. Whatever it is they can
do all they want to do. This is why I
gotta be and man, we gotta they Well, one became two,
two became one. They switched, they picked it. I couldn't
get over it. They all right, cool, we understand that.
But if I'm in zone, But the principles are what
(38:53):
they are, and so you have to just have smart
football players out there that are doing what they're supposed
to be doing on those particular calls.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
And everything he says is very very true. The difference
was is this here Jalen had time to either come
from under the center by standing in the shotgun, he
had a chance to look up and survey a.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Lot of russ.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
He was like dropping back and continue to drop and
you got to take off. You don't know where the
holes are. He had a chance to say, oh my god,
No he didn't sland in here, let me go outside.
No he didn't get wild, Oh look at it, let
me go over here. He had a chance to survey
what he was doing. This guy last week, I don't
think he had many chances to survey what he was doing.
(39:41):
So we had good coverage, but we can't never account
for that athletic quarterback if he has time to drop
back because I watch your TV and I'm like, you know,
whoever the announced was, Hey, he's just dropped back here
like the receivers cover all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You see Williams take off to the inside. Thank you, Williams.
Now now go fifteen game.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
So when you have a chance to survey and you're
not panicking, you know, you get a chance to kind
of see where you're going versus a guy that just
take off running, he'll know where the.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Holes at in the defense.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
As a quarterback, when you you know you've got what
two seconds, three seconds or less on every single play,
knowing that you're going to have a limited number of
plays where you're going to have time, how do you prepare?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
How do you prepare to know? All right, I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Have limited limited plays where I can actually have the time,
My receivers are going to be where they're supposed to.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Be when I'm still upright and I'm not having to
you know.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
But see you you're asking the question that if he
knows this, he can react to this. Russ didn't know
when the two seconds was going to be the one second.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
How do you prepare you don't like normal, and you
don't when it's there, it's there.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You don't.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
You don't because as a quarterback, you still have to
run to play. Yeah, you can't break away from the play. Oh, man,
I got to fit in this a one second. No,
you gotta drop back.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Try that.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That was my question.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, you have to run every play.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Yeah, it's gonna be blocked away.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
It's supposed to be blocked yeah, and then you adjust
if it ain't, you know, But.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
In the third quarter you're just like, damn, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
And that's sometime when guys get in trouble a little bit,
try to try to do too much predetermining things. Now
you're like, man, I don't got hit seven seven, eight times,
and this he ain't gonna hold up. And then he
don't hold up and you throw the ball and it's a
it's the linebacker sitting right there picked you know, guy's
not ready to receive the ball.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
That has got to be the worst feeling, I'm gonna
tell you. You know, you have the talent, both you
and your receivers, but you just don't have the time.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
And why when neighbors is spashing out on the side.
The first half of the first.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
And you can tell when the quarterback doesne had enough
when he threw it in this up shit and don't
even try to run after it.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Well you know enough or you know he's here. Yeah,
he is knocked down and it's come to help him up.
But he'll get to help up with a hand, and
I'll get up myself. You help you is what I'm down.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Here, Help me up now?
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Oh man, all right, Troy, thank you for not giving
up on ba Hey Jimmy, Yeah, hey man, Elephant cat dance.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, Well, before we get out of here, very very uh,
I don't know how else to put this. A very
uh memorable day in American history nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
How many years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Was it now?
Speaker 8 (42:41):
Twenty four?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Twenty four years ago? And we've talked about on the
show where we were at, what we were doing. But
I just I hope we never forget. I hope this
never just becomes a day. And you know, on social media,
everybody's about putting graphics up and sometimes to me it
feels like, you know, you.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Do it just to do it, but like we all
lived it.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
We were there.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
There's a whole generation that wasn't around when that happened,
and you know, it meant something to be an American,
no matter what your views were, no matter you know,
whatever you thought, you know it was. It was a
great place to live and it was worth defending. And
I hope we never forget that. Lots going on in
the world right now, it's a little bit of a
crazy place, but like you know, just remember all the
(43:25):
people that you know, the first responders that were there,
the people.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
That lost their lives.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Just hope we never forget how we felt for those
of us that were around that day, and how much
it pulled us together. It made us proud to be Americans,
no matter color, whatever.
Speaker 9 (43:40):
You believe, under whatever, this is what you have to believe.
And this is where I changed. It helped change my
life me being you know followed christ is. The next
man does matter that no matter who I'm I could
you know, we as humans can look at one another,
walk ask when to a here person, say something, and.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Decide we don't like them.
Speaker 9 (44:04):
Never met him, never spoke to him, Try the other way,
Try the other way, Try speaking and try being courteous,
try to be an easy going The next man does
matter believe me when I tell you that.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Jesse, good seeing you, Nate, good seeing you, Kurt.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Remember Wilson this week don't matter.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. What are
we doing tomorrow? Phone calls? What do we want to do?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's on, y'all.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I'll come up with some stuff you want to.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Try to cancel you two days of the row.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Maybe a little hodgepodge, maybe a little tune in to
find out what we do tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
We don't even know. Chris, thanks to keep us on
their Josh, thanks for keeping him company.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Tomorrow, same time.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Say number one show Baby Hanging with the boys will
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