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Bro Okay, I know you you're chopping at the bit.
I tried to talk you. Try to give half the
show away before we even got on the air. How
you doing, Jess?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Greats are good?
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Man?
Speaker 9 (02:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah?
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Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
How you are? General? Thing been going? You actually everybody
to eat.
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I go for your mo I go go check ups.
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Now that I finally got them straight, got them right,
They're still not all straight the bottoms. Look, I still
got a gap up here where I got to get
a real right from like five years ago. But I'm good, good,
all right, do my I do my yearly check ups now.
Thanks to Chris talking me into it, so I'm on track.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
I'm doing good. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Trasking lots to get to today, Nate. Since you, since
you're Jesse was talking in the back, we'll get to
his point in a minute. You walked in and you
just had one request to players on both teams this
week so we can watch some good football.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah. I watched the Bears defense. I mean, okay, Minnesota
first game. You know they play over and I'll explain
what that is. You got a center, right center, right guard,
right tackle, tight end. They're gonna put a guy over
the center, the guard and the tackle have a gap
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and then have a defense event outside. That's what they
mainly play. That's what they want to play on run downs.
Everybody playing their gap. On pass downs. That guy over
the center all normally, I'll go back when he's pass
rushing back into the open hole to cover. The have
a four man deal. As they get closer and closer
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to the goal line, they'll bring up the A and B.
Sometime they'll bring one. Sometime they'll let both of them
drop back. This is what I'm saying, just on it.
But it ain't the alignment that's killing them. It's the
assignment that's killing them. The lack of tackling. Players are
dropping going down like flies. You know, they Kyler Gardner
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lost them. JJ Edwards lost him. That's the linebacker JJ TJ. Yes,
I'm sorry, but the Kyler Gardner is that right there?
He's out. I mean, they're losing guys. Now. They went
out and got Grady Jared.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And they're all world cornerback Yeah Johnson, Yeah he's out.
He's out definitely. And so you go out and get
Grady Jarrett. During the off season, you go out and
get day yo yep out of the Bowl. So, yes,
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they go out, they go out and get him. They
draft a guy that didn't even get on the field,
number ninety five, Sherman Turner.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They have put access in their defense. But like the Cowboys, Shamar,
excuse me, I.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Want you I don't want you to get on the
show with Sunday and said.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah, they believe me, they'll be they'll be eating
backing me up. This is and and I'm seeing the
same thing from game one to Game two. I saw
a simple, a simple sweep, one man sweep to the right,
Grady Jarrett pressed inside, Monte Sweat pressed in side. I
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mean a sweep, a one man sweep to the outside,
and left the corner out there hanging. And then you
can clearly see that if these guys would have red
and went sweep and stayed front up there, man, this
guy has no gain. This is the same with the
Cowboys secondary. This is why I'm so upset. And I
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went to our guy that helps you with the counts.
I went to Denil Christy Dan to help me here.
I say, can these guys pray these defenses that they're asking?
He said, Nate, it's simple. When they call this coverage
that's called zone. All you have to do is go
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line up fifteen yards back, not twelve, not ten, but fifteen.
And it comes down, like I said, know who you are.
If you are a four to six guy, you can't
line up at fifteen like the normal guy that runs
four or five. You gotta line up at twenty five
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and come forward. It's easier to run forward than to
run back. So not only us, but I'm talking about
the Bears too quick player. If you play what the
coach asks you to play, then I can get a
serious look on how to make adjustments. But if you
play solo football, I cannot make the adjustments. As the
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game go on. They beat Minnesota beat them. As the
game got went on, it got worse, worse and worse,
and you lost to a fairly decent team. As the
game went on. With Detroit, it got to be a
beatdown because that team knows what they're doing. Jess's gonna
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be a little more specific, but I want them to
come in and not be disciplined. I want them to
come in. Their linebackers they're aggressive, they would shoot gaps.
They've been fifty to fifty sometime they hit, but when
they miss, it's a big game. So you're looking at
a team that I think has good, good players, way
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above average players, but they're doing their own thing right now.
No sacks, no sacks. They had a couple of sacks
early in the Detroit game. Flag took away the sacks.
So I'm talking about a team that I don't know
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is because they have so many new guys on defense
jests or they think that they are the man and
they're kind of doing their own thing when they want
to do it. Because you will see the linebackers every
now and then shooting gaps, which I'm trying to read
what they're reading, and I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I'm trying to see what they what they're reading,
and everybody's trying to make a play instead of playing
your gap, playing your role and playing as a team.
So that is and I looked at our film and
it's that's the feeling I get. Our defensive line can
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play well and all of a sudden, a linebacker just
shoot the gap. Okay, why did you shoot that gap?
Now this guy is running extra. Now we've been fort
we've been fortunate that we've stopped to run. But you
gave him eight hundred yards and passing. So so I
really don't know is you stopping to run? So Jesse,
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I'm giving it all to you. I got mine out, bro.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
No, no, no, that was good. And I think one
of the things that Nate hit on that was really good.
When you you know, a lot of the times we
come into these games and the first thing we're looking for,
who's the notable names, right, who's the superstar, who's the
guy that the name that we recognize? And when you
look at the Bears defense, they have a lot of names.
They have names that we've come up against in other teams.
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You know, guys like Montes Sweat. You hear the name
Grady James, excuse me, Grady Jared and Tremaine Evmans and
of course you know Kevin Bayer, and so they have
these Nate saw right, yes, who was who?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, you gotta pick six in the in the Minnesota game.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
And so you hear the names, you think, like, if
you just went, if you just went name recognition, you'd
be like, it's gotta be a pretty good defense, right,
Like all these names Montess what and Grady Jared and
and you're like and then you pop on the film
and then you look around and I think Nate hit
it and said it perfectly. This this game might be
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This game might be the battle of the two undisciplined
defenses Cowboys defense, Bears defense, and just an undisciplined bunch
undisciplined bunch. Then it's out of their defensive coorda And
I don't know, like I look at the like a
lot of times I'll start up front, I'll look at
the secondary. Dude, I just had a feeling in my
soul that Nate was going to just handle the guys
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up front. So I kind of really focused on I did.
I was like, Nate's hand the guys up front, and
so I like, let me look what the secondary does.
And so they'll they'll do a lot of different looks
in the secondary. You'll see some cover two, You'll some quarters. Uh,
they try to disguise a lot of it. You'll see
some some two men. So you know, that's the one thing.
And I think Dak is playing. He's red hot right now.
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I think he's I think he's playing in a great rhythm.
But they try to disguise a lot of what they do,
and what ends up happening is guys are running free,
guys are trailing guys. And I always like, there are
times when I watch a defensive film and the opponent
that they're playing, Like, I just there was something that
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Detroit was trying to prove against the Bears, right and
so they were they were, they were, they were throwing
out everything against the Bears. And so when you watch
these guys, there are a very very, very undisciplined group.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And I could even kind of I don't feel as.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I don't feel as gung ho as I did against
the Giants, that being like, oh, this defense is terrible.
I don't I don't feel that way or this and
that and the third this is a very beatable defense.
And if they play the way they played against the
Lions against the Cowboys, Dak will have another another three
hundred and fifty plus yard passing game.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Like for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Where I think it differs a little bit in the
running game is Detroit hasn't really Yeah, they got a
two headed monster back there. Both of those guys are
you know, Sonic and Knuckles, So they they they run
with a different style and than what the Cowboys will
run with. We don't have that level of explosion. We
have Javonte Williams, who's done very well for the Cowboys
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in these first two games, but he's more of a
straightforward downhill runner. He's not trying to get to the outside.
He's not gonna make guys missing the whole he'll punish.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
You if you're there.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But that's the difference between how like we're not running
any toss with Javonte and we ain't running tho toss
with Miles sanders Haint the fastest he used to be.
So it's gonna be it's gonna be predicated on the
Cowboys being able to get downhill and get on those
blocks so that Javonta can go forward.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Because I do believe like guys.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Like like like Grady Jarrett, guys like another Dexter, Dexter Senior,
like number ninety nine, like those guys, when their initial
punch is good. Up front, they have an initial good punch,
an initial good move. But sometimes they just their eyes
get lost, they start peeking, they start trying to do,
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like they said, not playing their responsibilities. But on the
back end, that's where the cowboys will make their hay
because when you start, you know, and and I hope
that shoty continues this. When you put guys in motion,
that's when you're gonna add. That's that's a sign right
there for me. When you put a guy in motion
and the dB follows him, the bells go off.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This man covers y'all.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And they make their adjustments not as a whole defense.
Their linebackers and defensive backfield make their adjustments you don't
like Like with New England, you will see sometime they
line are actually moving trying to make adjustments to the strength.
They're linebackers are doing all of that work. Their safeties
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are doing all of that work.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
And so it feels like it feels like this defense
just like the Cowboys defense. Really either they're not buying
in or they're confused. There's something that's not which one's
worse buying in because if you're not buying.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
In, we could work.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
No matter what I say.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, no matter what you're saying, you ain't doing it.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
So confusing like oh okay, that that may be just
how I'm teaching it. Maybe you need to see it
a little better, maybe you need to walk through a
little bit more, go through a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
But if you ain't bought in, no matter what I.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Say to you gonna matter.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
So they look confused because they're trying to pass guys
off and all that kind of stuff, and guys are
running free. And if the Cowboys, because it's a copycat league,
Brian Shoham looking what they did against Detroit. I'm saying
I'm gonna see a lot of deep overs. I'm gonna
see like that CDA deep over, CD George Pickens deep over,
because when they start passing these guys off, they lose guys.
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And there are a ton of big plays. Even Jared
Goff missed a couple that he had the dB. Jamis
Williamson had the DB's beat deep on two or three
occasions and they just missed a throw something connected with
So there's a lot of hay to be made for
the Cowboys offensively this And like I said, I say
that now and then they'll come out and all of
a sudden they're front of be all all War, all Americans.
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But this should be another one of the games where
it's gonna be a shootout. It's gonna be a shootout
because this defense is gonna give up a lot of
points on paper.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
The overs fifty and a half, I believe Cowboys are
giving up one on paper. This should be over thirty seven,
thirty four. This will be one of those games it
comes out that's twelve to fourteen or something.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The team, and I give every team the same allowances
that I give the Cowboys who can find the rhythm. First,
we have been able to run one hundred and fifteen,
one hundred and twenty, and then we come out and
run one hundred and thirty five. Now this team is
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giving up one hundred and thirty something yards a game,
so to find that rhythm. Oh, sorry, so it brought Hoffmann.
Will you have the same confidence we go ahead on
with your question.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
I was gonna say, I think you're right. That's very important.
Typically dak starts slow.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Do you establish and as bad as their offensive line
is against the run, do you try to establish the
rhythm with the run first?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
And I think that plays into what you were saying.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Well, brock Hoffman, get him comfortable, get him under center,
and then go to the pass game.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Or do you start out throwing the ball?
Speaker 10 (16:41):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
My thing is this right here? You got two tackles
that need help. Because I'm not gonna discount market sweat.
I'm not discounting him because I think it's gonna be
a challenge for our tackles. I hit him with with
some quick three step drops and then run the ball.
I'll hit them some quick let them know that we
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are gonna pass. Get something definite that CD gonna handle
or are three gonna handle? You know, and and boom
and just move that ball early. And then where if
three step drops allows most tackles to get a quick
hand on you, you know, it keeps your passing going
and allows them to get a quick deal that if
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they sit back on CD or sit back on Pickings,
you know, and the rest of them, I don't care
if they sit back on them or not. But I'm
letting you know that I need more activity with those
two guys. But anyway, and then punch you a run
and there punch you a run. And because what I
don't want to do, and Jesse you may see it
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this way or now, I don't want to have a
loss on the first play. I need a game. I
need a I need for the residue to last off
of Detroit. So I need some quick completions, you know
how the Giants can't the Giant. If we would have
knocked the Giants off, if they would have been three
and out, they would have been like, oh, here it
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go again. But they boom, boom and they went down
the field. That put our defense like whoa what wasn't
the world happened? That's set the tempo for the day.
If fifty five would have been an idiot, that set
the temple for that's what I want us to do.
Let them say, hey, man, we're gonna give y'all more
of what Detroit gave y'all. You know, So I want
to quick pass here quick because most of their scoring
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was number fourteen. They was throwing that ball in there, Detroit.
They'll run it down there. But they was throwing that
ball in ins on you did.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You see Brown?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah? Yeah, So I'm saying to myself, run it, you know,
the officer. But man, I want scores and I want
it quick and fast. And that way you you would
take all the fire because that dude on the other
side the way Brinnis was talking a quarterback brids like man,
I'm like, oh, Bronis, need to take them out to
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heat a dinner or something where you loving on it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
No, I get it. I got and we'll talk about
that tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Bo Like Caleb is a unique He's a unique cat
cuz he has all the tools. Yes, he has everything, yes, sir,
like he has everything. Now the mental part of it,
don't know where he's quite at with that. But the
armstred Man. He has some throws. You look at you, Ah,
you'd be like, geez, that boy could play.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we'll get over.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
We'll get on tomorrow.
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Speaker 6 (22:00):
The last segment, PFF, Kurt's favorite friend. Has Dak ranked
second a month now. Listen, Nate's been telling you all
year long. Listen to the show the truth. Jesse's been
telling you since pre season about this. PFF has Dak
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ranked second among quarterbacks. He's among NFL leaders all in
most categories. Jesse's not surprised at how he's playing, Nate.
Are you surprised at how he's playing Dak?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No? No, but I was. I liked it, and this
was This don't mean nothing to most people, but this
is what really got me. The first two or three
days in training camp when Dak was out there and
he wasn't sprout with his arm, but he just took
off running. He just took off running. Certain plays, He'll
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just take off running one hundred yards, ninety yards seventy
And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
But following the play down.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Following the play down, field cheering, just happy. And what
he was trying to tell himself and us is my
legs are back. Shoddy. Hit about that a litbit during
OTA's last year, libit and like, we gonna see a
libit smart running Dack. And then I was already confident
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with the two wide receivers, but when Jesse put his
spin on it, I'm like, yeah, yeah. And so the
first week we birth bumped heads in a different way.
When we said, man, Dak played the hell of a game.
I was saying because the tackles we wasn't too good.
You were saying because the tackles weren't too good. They
were good in the first half, but they wasn't good
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in the second half. But that was spectaclar, I think
in the second half. And that's when I you know,
I believe that man, you believe it?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Since training camp?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Can he keep like he doesn't need to be throwing
the ball forty three times a game.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Right, Yes he does.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
He does for this team to win, that's what we needed.
Can he keep that up for Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
With those hogs he got outside for sure. See, like
before we said he don't have CD in a.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Bunch of Maybies, that's right, Like he don't have that
like he has now that other and that it matters
so much to have that other player alongside of you. Right,
Remember when him and and Amari Cooper they had that
they had that one good year where uh, you know,
it was either Fergo or the other tight end, but
they had texture. You know, CD had a thousand, Omari
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had nine hundred, Shultz had eight hundred, the back had
a thousand yards. Like it was one of those things
where all systems will go. And when you have that
sort of combination, you can you can you can do
just about anything. And one of the things that I
and I'll, you know, we we break down film, but
we don't we don't show the film. And I know
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that all the different things that they you know, do
with the NFL, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But the thing that has been.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Most impressive early in this season for me, when it
comes to dak is the pocket awareness, Yes, sir, it
has been.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
It has been Chef Kiss. He had a throw to.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I want to say it with the Pickens. It was
either Pickens or Lamb where he was running the deep
over and it was it was the thing that was
so special about it was it was defensive recognition, understanding
my blocking, also understanding my route, what that coverage is
going to be, and how much time that I need
to create to make this throw. And he's already a
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shotgun and he knows who the free rusher is going
to be. He understand I don't have enough guys to
block them. So how do I get this pass to
where I need to go? Because he understands I'm going
to have to throw. The throw is going to be there,
the route's going to be there. I got to buy
enough time to do. So ball is snapped and everything
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start to do what he thought it was gonna do.
Free rusher comes and he's, like I said, he's already
in the shotgun.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
But he just drifts. He drifts, he drifts.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And as soon as that receiver got to the point
where he knew got him and he also understood that
I have so much open field that this throw can be.
I gotta get it there, but I can get it
anywhere there. I don't have to be as accurate as
a double team won the ceedee lamb. He understood that
this route took that cornerback out of there, and I
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have all I got twenty five yards to make this throw.
I got it strong enough on to do so. And
he buy the time. He by the time, and he
threw one out there. I want to say it's the
George Pickings, but it just the way that he moved
in the pocket is is that you theirs the second
game against the the Giants, and there's a number of
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players just watching him move in the pocket and its
subtle movements, and again to the untrained eye, you just think, oh,
he's just making a good throat. But I'm just like, nah,
he gets it. He understands that you know what my
tackles can and cannot do, and how certain things like
he And that's the part of being in the zone
that he's in right now, of being able to recognize
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what he's looking at and having the total picture of
what everything is happening, understanding the defense, understanding our blocking,
knowing our blocking strengths, and weaknesses. One of my routes
who this ball is supposed to be going to and
how it's supposed to be getting there. Again, he'll have
his mistakes. All quarterbacks do.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But and some of that.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
From what you're saying, you can only figure that stuff
out with real bullets, right, Like you can only figure
that stuff out with game reps, like what your tasks
are capable of doing?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Right?
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Does that mean he's going to get better as the
season goes along.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
This is what happens when you get to that point
when you're a ten year vet. When you get to
the point of being a ten year vet, you know
they are It's not like they're drafting new defensive coordinators
every single year. Right, They're not the same defensive coordinator.
Dennis Allen been around this league for thirty years.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Probably, They're not reinventing the wheel.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It's will.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's different.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It's just now I've seen it, I'm so comfortable with it.
I'm able to adjust at the line of scrimmage. This
is what you see. This is what you see the
veteran the most veteran ones do. This is what you see.
The patents and the errands and the.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Roethlisbergers, the Mahomes, the islands.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
This is what you see, those veteran quarterbacks being able
to come to the line of scrimmage, see things, direct things,
get people where they're supposed to be, but understanding the
total picture of what's happening and not being surprised by
certain things. And again they all forced passes in there
that shouldn't be thrown in there, and that is no
different than them. But the fact that I know what's happening,
and you can tell the aura and era of confidence
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that he's walking around with, that's because I know, I
know what I see, I know what's going on out here,
so I can play with the level of confidence.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And they're key to all of this. He has another receiver,
he can see it. Ask mister Mahomes right now. As
great as he is, he just don't have the weapons.
And it hurts. We know this is a dog and.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
How only do you have another receiver?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
You got another You got two guys now that can
go vertical like see he's not as wosfaster pickings.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Probably they had to run a straight line.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
But yeah, both of them can they both run take
the top off.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, if they need to for.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Sure him man, then that little number nine need to
be healthy this week because he bring another dimension. How
important hurt his next Yeah, I don't know, make double
double up on the double up or get him in
the morning, get him in the double time, because the
other alternative I don't like. I mean, the other alternative
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ain't got what he got, you know, get him a hot.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
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There we go. So is this the drugstore defense?
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Is this gonna Is this gonna fix the Cowboys offensive
line woes? Or is this just a battle of too
not so disciplined teams that are both still trying to
figure out who they are and have been sloppy and miscommunication,
and it's gonna be a battle of who can who
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can direct?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, you can find the rhythm.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
I think this is one of those very tricky games
to even judge because I know the Cowboys won a
football game and we want to we want to highlight that,
be positive about that.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
There comes the hater.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Come on, Jess, there's a lot of bad football being
played in that game. There's a ton of bad football
being played in that game. Like I get it, Like.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not Jesse the hater. This
is Jesse the football player. Tell him what his I see.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
But there was a lot of being honest like you,
if you go back and you watch that football game, yes,
that played spectacularly. Well, it's some bad football being played
on the offensive line. We saw what the defense was
and so we we like that can't be overshadowed. Yes,
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a win is a win. Is a win is a win.
And there's some bad football that was played against the Bear.
So now it comes out. This is one of those
things where it's they're gonna be desperate, they're owing to right,
they got their.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Butts kicked last week.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
I'm I'm if if Ben Johnson is worth what he's
supposed to be worth as a head coach, he's he's
making he's calling some folks out. There's gonna have to
be some guys that look in the mirror. Dennis Allen's
gonna have to call his defense out and say, listen,
do what you're supposed to do. But the Cowboys can't
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let that overtime thriller great game, right right, Like not
in a sense of energy, Like the thrill of the
game is great, the back and forth in that third
and fourth quarter in overtime, that forty something point you know,
six lead changes.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
As a fan, you enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
My brother came in town and you know what he
told me, and I started laughing. He said, bro, I
don't been to a lot of your games, a lot
of the Cowboy game. That was the most thrilling game.
And I just bust out laughing.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
It was like if you're watching as a fan, you're like, oh, touchdown,
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
It was.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
It was the edge of your seat entertainment. But when
you break the film down, you go, does.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
It take so question for you guys?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Because I was watching that game and I was kind
of I was watching with disappointment, even though it was
a thrilling game, because I knew they shouldn't be in
the situation where the game was that close, that late
in the game, and the dumb mistakes, and they should
have probably lost that game if the Giants would have
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had their heads screwed on halfway straight.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
I was upset. I couldn't watch that with enjoyment.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
But you know, the average fan, I think, oh, this
is a great game, it's exciting.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
But I was pissed off.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
I was like, I was mad because I was like,
this team is not good right now.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Two things happened to you. What you listen to this
show that's No. One, And this is what I've learned,
and you tell me from wrong the arrogance of the Cowboys,
and it's fans that's cow What you've said is cowboy arrogance.
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You want to discount the Giants. It's not an NFL
team that you should just run through them. But you
don't even know who your own team is yet. If
we were three years ago and it was that twelve
and five team, man, we would be talking about it
instead of me saying by five points, I'm like, we
got them by two touchdowns. But no, you got to
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find out who this team is and you got to
enjoy every victory because we lost to a good team
and barely beat a team that we thought was not good.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
So give it a few more weeks and I you know,
you guys asked me a week ago and I was like,
you know, I still don't know what this team is.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
And you probably won't know after this week either, because
we don't know what the Bears are, all right.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I still don't know what this cowboy football team is.
I still don't feel confident that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But if we get thirty points, well here's but that's
what I know. That's what I'm saying. If we get
those thirty points you're talking about, we should try to
average that game. But I know that's unrealistic, so hard
in this lead, I know that's unrealistic. But pickys, you
want to get paid. We did that.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Thirty you know, and that's what it's going to have
to be. There is still the questions are still there.
Winning keeps the keeps you at Bay.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Right.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
If you're in the yes, your interest up keeping.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
You because if you can figure it out, you have
the wins behind you too.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Again, We'll get more into because this is what this
thing is gonna come down to. It's gonna be it's
gonna be able to the Cowboys defensively, excuse me, the
Cowboys offensively? Can they continue on their hot streak? Like
that's gonna be big?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
You know?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I don't you know?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Maybe you know because Dennis Allen and Matt Eberflus have
to answer the same question this week. They're asking the
same question this week.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Is it your defense or is it your players?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
They have to ask they have to answer the same
question this week because they're having a lot of the
same problems, the same problems, and so they have to
ask themselves.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Is it me? Is it them?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
And what changes?
Speaker 4 (38:42):
And what changes?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
And I gotta make it fast.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
So who can get their guys to either communicate better,
buy in better, or whatever whatever it has to be.
Who can do that the quickest? And then who can
have that done the most consistent in this game? I'll
tell you tomorrow about Like I'll just say this, the
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Bears offensively, they're going to challenge the Cowboys defense in
every other defense in this league, They're gonna challenge their eyes,
their discipline, their communication and their consistency.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I'm gonna get on that for the boy I want
to see it.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
They're gonna challenge those things. They're gonna challenge them. They're
gonna make you have to be able to your eye
is gonna be do you're gonna be doing because they're
gonna be moving and shifting. You're gonna be looking back
and forth and to be hoo can oh boss snapped?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Uh oh, we out of place?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Now what Caleb Williams shows up? Don't know that's that's
gonna be critical. But Matt ebra Flus Dennis Allen have
to answer this same question this week about what they're
going to be defensively and when this game is all
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set and done, when we come back in here on Monday,
the winner of this football game, and I know this
may be even cheating a little bit, but it's gonna
be on the defensive end. It's gonna be who played
the best consistent defense of all because the offense are
both going to be able.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
To do their things.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Should be should be, yes, sir, should be.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
But if their defensive front, if just so happened, those
names start to come alive and we can't block them.
Oh boy, if if adding knowing Jadeveon Clowney or they
and they got what's called you know, figure it out
in the back end, or that and they got the
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Oh boy.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
So whoever has the most band aids this week on
the defense wins the game.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Whoever has the most cuts the league cuts?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
So question you said, the defense, and we got about
five minutes fence. They're going to challenge your eyes, They're
going to challenge your assignments and all that. So how
how what's going to happen at center? And how's that
going to affect Booker? Especially when you got a struggling
tackle in the past game to the right and you
got a brand new guy to you left.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
The thing that I think that we forgot is that's
I think that's Homan Hoffman's natural position, I think is center.
So he had a whole practice training camp last year.
He was the second guy to go in this year.
So he he understands it. A lot of people worry
about his uh uh is his antics. This man don't
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get flags, y'all. He calls his flags. He don't mind
getting punched, getting punched in the gut you know what
you worry about is when he becomes how to deal
with a guy one on one? So what can Grady
Jarrett do? What can They got a big man a
number I can't find him. They got a big number
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ninety eight, I think ninety. It's a big old dude
that plays over big Andrew. That's a hog of a man.
And he comes straight forward. He knows why he's in there.
So can we handle that? The thing is that giving
up the run, not like they're giving up the past,
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because the past has been big plays, but they're giving
up the run. We can keep them honest and keep
these these pass rushers out of the game by being
able to run. Ken Hoffman find his rhythm with these guys,
with the rookie and with highest paid Can he find
his rhythm with these inside guys, because once again has
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been repeated, and my left tackle got to get in shape.
He he got this game here and he should start
rounding out and we still should start seeing a better guy.
Our right tackle is a player action passed tack on
the set every time. The more times we can run early,
the better, the more confidence he has. What'd you call
him the rookie and highest paid rookie and highest fade baby, Baby,
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what do.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
You do this week if if, if Turping can't go
and you know and you know him plenty of time,
do you activate another wide receiver? Do you activate Jaden
Blue for the first time because of the speed factor
and try to use him in some of those situations?
What would you do from a personnel standpoint?
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Nope, I mean I'll probably bring up another one of
the receivers and then I'll go, well, we're gonna give
the turp.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Ceede Lamb, you're in the backfield now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no no. Williams should get
a few more carriers. Williams, you get a few more carriers.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
The low the logos to eighty eight and three.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Uh, why do you?
Speaker 7 (43:53):
Why do you not want to see him back there?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I just want him always standing out there, dicked helped
dictating coverage. I don't want him in the back.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
He dictates coverage to the back.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I know he gonna bring They're gonna bring up. I
want him out because I'm gonna stick to this and
I'm gonna I'm gonna break it even further down. If
it's one hundred passes in the year being thrown. I
want sixty five of them to CD and I want
the rest going to number three. And I don't care
if you don't throw the nobody else.
Speaker 7 (44:23):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
You just need to.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I just need because we never had like I say,
it was Amarri the last time we had two legit
dogs at wide receiver. It's been forever. It's been forever.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
You had a young yes, city Land was still coming
of age. Yes, Like now you got too.
Speaker 7 (44:44):
And tomorrow you could just make him mad and he
take him out of the game.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Don't do that a little bit, do that, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Don't do that tomorrow to.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
The route God, you a route god.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
But I tell you what, Mary was practicing too fast,
and Oakley like, man, y'a'm you know.
Speaker 6 (45:02):
The reason why one of the reasons why I loved
Tomorrow was one of the reasons why he drove me
mad is because.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
He never got upset.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
He never got upset. He just be like, well he
didn't throw the ball to me.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
He goes sit down and be like, give me my
three point five.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
And it was.
Speaker 7 (45:16):
Like like I needed a little bit of passion.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
Then when the guys too much, like just go play ball,
who yelling at everybody.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
If we could all be so nonchalant, Yes, I would
love it.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Ye knew