July 23, 2025 • 43 mins
Here we are again with another contract negotiation dominating training camp. The deal will get done, but why all the drama beforehand? Why drag it out? In better news, Nate calls in from Oxnard and is already impressed with the way practices are going. Guys are running hard, the competition is high and nothing is seemingly being handed to anyone.
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Speaker 1 (02:18):
We dominate off the field. Oh man, it's not many
of us running around here.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
It's been a minute. How long has it been month
and a half?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Oh yeah, probably about that.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Month and a half.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Not a lots change, No, still a circus.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Welcome wrinling brothers.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I mean, no one's surprised by anything that's going on
or anything that's been said or done, and actually it
was a pretty mild opening press conference.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Are you tired, though, Kurt Shendon, Are you tired?
Speaker 9 (02:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Does it get it? Does it get old?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
It doesn't get old, because honestly, being around this team
for twenty plus years, it's what I expect.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It's let me ask y' all this. Oh that's me. Sorry,
you're let me let me ask you this. Do you think.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Jerry just doesn't He in the back of his mind
he knows he's getting these deals done, and he just
really it's not that important. He's like, I'm gonna get
this done. Like I know it buff it makes us crazy.
It probably when it when your financial future is hinging
on millions and millions and millions and tens of millions
(03:31):
of dollars, it's probably nerve wracking of what if I
get hurt, what if I get in a car wreck,
what if something happens and I don't have a contract,
And you know, he probably just he's on he wants
to go on vacation in the summer, not saying that
he's not trying to get the deals done, but he knows,
he knows he's going to get these deals done.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But see, that's here's here lies the issue for me.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
If anyone that's been under rock, we're talking about Michael
Parson's contract.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Hearing lies. The issue for me is.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
When you label yourself as the general manager, don't get vacation.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Now look the wrong. I don't think he's really going on.
I don't think he's putting that on hold for that
Like he's on the yacht. He just knows he's gonna
get it done. And what's the hurt.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But the hurry is is that you create. And I
get it.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Like Jerry's always like, I don't care what you say
about me, just spell my name right. Well, it was
called twelve inch headlines or whatever whatever the amount.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Is, publicity, publicity.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I get all that. I understand all that, but I
like it.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Are you tired?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I am.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
I've been a part of this organization as a player
and as a media member since two thousand and nine,
so I'm fifteen years in. I'm not you know, you
guys got more time.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm tired.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
I'm tired of the same script. I'm appreciated tip that
I get to do, I get to do this. I'm
appreciative that we have an owner that's going to give
us days upon days upon days of content to talk about.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
It, and lets us talk about it, and let's It's
a lot of teams that are like, don't touch this
right and week freely.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
But no, Well, sometime I get in trouble, but for
the most part, I don't get called to the principal's
office very often.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Usually when you do, it's about the stuff that people
wouldn't even think it's about. It's not even the big stuff,
like you could criticize the team and ownership and all
that that you want, but it's the it's the dumb
stuff that that that will get.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You, that will get me. Yeah, but I am, I am.
I'm tired.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
I'm tired of us having to decipher what the meanings are.
I'm tired of us having the back and forth mud
slinging and tongue wrestling between the owner and the star
playing well between two.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, see, look you caught yourself. You're learning to.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Learn it, matory, but it's unnecessary, like the way, and
if I must be honest, Mike is winning the pr
battle over this.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, he's winning. He is.
Speaker 10 (06:13):
He is out Jerry and Jerry, which rewind six months ago.
I don't think any of us in this room would
have thought his maturity the way he's shown maturity in
this situation, it didn't exist six months ago. Like he's
he's learning how to play the game from the best
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that's ever played it, and right now he's winning.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You're right, No, he is.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
And and kudos to David Maluguetto, who I'm sure is
coaching him in this process on how and what and
when to say certain things. But Micah has a mind
of his one. I agree one hundred percent with that.
But also you can tell by the things that he's
because his message has changed, right, Like you go, look
over the last six to twelve months. It went from
(06:58):
I don't really need forty and you know, team friendly deal.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Kind of talking.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
You know, Jerry and I talked, and we had a
meeting of the minds from Clarence Hill and other guys
talking about that.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Till I went to, yeah, like my agent handles that.
Talk to my agent this.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
You know, his message in the form of how he's
presenting it has changed. But I am like, we we
we we don't have to do this, Like this doesn't
have to happen.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Gets frustrating, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Like, for example, we're gonna have this same conversation three
hundred and sixty five days from now for another best
player on your football team, who will be another best
player at his position in the entire National Football League,
when you already have the blueprint of what that contract
should look like, we'll be We'll be here next year
(07:50):
for your left guard. We will be here next year
talking about when and will the theft guard gets signed,
and we'll have the same conversations because the road map
for Jerry, and it even even in his conversation he
says things like, I haven't talked to the agent. I
(08:10):
talked to the principal. I talk to the player. And
this is a This is a game to him. This
is a game for Jerry. And the reason he talks
to the player and not David ma Lugetta or an agent,
from my opinion is Jerry wants to play the game
(08:31):
of emotional ties. Micah is a training camp, which I
don't think he should be he I don't I don't
think he. I don't think he should even be present,
and I get the whole leadership thing. He shouldn't even
be there. But Jerry plays the strings of that football
players love football.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Michaeh.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
I've said a lot of different things about Micah. I've
never said he doesn't like football. Micah loves football. Micah
doesn't like being away from football. Michael Micah suffers from fomo.
He suffers from fomo. He loves being around his teammates.
He loves the game of football. So it's more of
a punishment to him if he stayed at home and
(09:10):
away from the team with nothing else to do.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So you can't see.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Everybody's a training camp now, So you can't go and
get your other friends, the other buddies and travel the
world because they working. You have to sit at home
with Mama and them and and and just play the game. Well,
he don't want that, So what Jerry does. I'll talk
to you because the emotion that you have is that
you feel like you're letting the guys in locker room
down by not being here or you know, not showing up.
(09:34):
You feel that you're letting fans down by not being here,
by not showing up. So I'm gonna talk to you,
and I'm gonna get your emotional heartstrings all in a
tizzy to get you to agree upon some things. And
now put the pressure on your agent to get things
moving while he doesn't talk to David Maloguetta. Is because
David Malagetta has zero emotional attachment to the Dallas Cowboys.
(09:55):
Darrin Bablogella gives, doesn't give a damn.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
He looks at the paper and the zero.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
His responsibility is for himself and his client. He's not
tied to anybody in that locker room. He's not tied
to any fan base, he's not tied to any organization.
So emotionally, you can never get to David Malogetto or
any other agent because he's saying, I know who I am.
I'm David mal I am the best football agent in
the business. Right now, here's my bottom line. I want this, this,
(10:25):
and this. I don't give a damn about dak CD,
Sam Williams, Aubrey Shoddy White, Cott. I don't care about
none of them, none of them out of David malogether,
none of them, none of them.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Don't care about any of them. There's zero emotional attachment.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
But my guy needs to make this is the standard
in the league. He needs to be paid this yes
or if not, we're walking. And so you think it's
more of like it's almost fun for Jim.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh, this is a sport. This is monopoly.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
What do you think it just because it's every it's
every it's every major.
Speaker 11 (10:58):
This is monopoly to him, know, but that that's I'm
not tired of it, I guess, but I am a
little frustrated because I don't understand the the philosophy, Like
obviously this is how he wants to do business and
drag it out to the last moment, but I don't
understand the advantage.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
To that because he can. That's the richness of it.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I was gonna ask, so this was in my mind.
Is it almost like I'm I'm I'm in charge and
said he said that yesterday. I'm gonna let you know
that he said it and the checks.
Speaker 11 (11:31):
Yeah, that just doesn't you know, all this drama is
created among the team, every question gonna be all this stuff,
and it just doesn't.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
I don't. It doesn't seem necessary, So I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
It's not it it's not.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
But it's almost like I think it's all it's almost
like I own this. I can do this the way
I want to do it. And you know what, the
more the media talks about it the more more. I'm
gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
More because I can, because I can, because I own
the star, the star, I own it.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
That's me, And I'm not so sure if I was
in his position, I wouldn't do the same thing because
everybody's talking about me.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Yeah, but think how much they would talk if if.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
What drama would there be if Micah's contract was signed
and George Pickens is getting along with everybody, everybody's so happy.
Guess what everybody's talking about today. Micah's there, he's not signed,
and this is what he had to say.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Yes, but you don't have to have toxic conversations fueling
like like fueling your football team. It could be it
could be that. It could be, boy, you let's talk
to Michael. This defense is coming together.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Sometimes when you're in a relationship and it's toxic, you
put up with it because it's just worth it.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's worth the toxicity.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The snappy nappy dugout and you.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Want everybody to look at what you look like on
Instagram and like a great couple.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And maybe that's why I don't do toxic. I don't
like toxic. I don't.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I don't, especially when I have to be there's some
situation where you know what because like I said this
earlier on a watch shows and like they're on the
same they're on the same grounds.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Why are we having these.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Competitions through the met the same tennis court, you're in
the same you're literally in the same compound, you're literally
working out, and there's a piece of tart between you
and and mister Jones's office.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Like I right there, we.
Speaker 11 (13:21):
Well say, but that's the problem that Micah is doing
the right thing. He's letting his agent handle it. And
so like they thought they had, Micah thought they were
close on a contract back in the spring. They probably are,
but then once he said talk to my agent, that
all changed.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
And so I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yeah, because there was something that Jerry probably said to
him that was like and michaelpht like, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 12 (13:41):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
I like that, And you have to understand and know Like, again, Michah,
he's a young man, right, I'm probably fifteen years older
than Micah somewhere around those spots. He's a young man, right,
Michah is a grown man. He's a young man. Michaeh
gets excited, like Micah loves these convers stations with Jerry.
(14:03):
We witnessed that like when around draft time, right, like
a lot of these players were taking these official visits
to all these different teams.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I didn't see one player, but like, oh look who
I'm with.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Selfie Now I'm a selfie with Jerry Jones, Like it
was this thing about that was it was just celebrity status.
And I'm telling you, I truly believe Micah is not
a person.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Who wants to stand alone.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Not saying that he can't and this is not a
shot that he had digs with them yesterday, but he
doesn't want to stand alone. He doesn't want to be
the mart or, the outcast, the dude who has to
just stand on ten toes down solo dolo. He likes
to be liked, like he likes that part, Like he
doesn't want to be unliked. And that's a tough that's
(14:54):
a that's a that's a tough, dynamic and weird place
to be in. Because to be a leader, which we
talk about at Todds, which I still stand ten tones
down on Michael, you don't have to be a leader.
You could just be the best football player in the league.
Being a leader is an option, don't. You don't have
to be a nuisance. You don't have to be a
mild content. You don't have to be a troublemaker. You
(15:15):
also don't have to be a leader.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
I wonder if Jerry's using that against him now in this.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
You don't have to do that. You don't have to
You could just be the best damn football player on
the planet. And that's okay too, That's totally cool. But
he enjoys the conversation of Jerry bringing him into the
suite at the Super Bowl, right, he brought that up
him at the National the semi finals game against a
whos Ohio State and as an.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
AT and T Stadium, Texas. Right.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
He enjoys being in the suite all day and then
ninety plus minutes after having a conversation with Jerry. It
makes him feel like he's important. Let the shark do
what the shark does. Let David do what he does. Like,
you don't have to have what did Dak do? Dak
was like, yeah, okay, cool, huh, Todd France, don't need
(16:03):
to talk to me. We talking about fishing life charity.
Talk to Todd. That's who that's you. Nothing you say
to me, I'm gonna okay, I don't know what I
know is. I know plays, I know down in distance,
I know route combinations, I can read defenses. I don't
need to comment on maybe you can't, but contract stuff
(16:25):
that's DoD.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Speaking of Dak, you see the pictures he put on
Instagram over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I don't have Instagram.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
He is fit, is he? I'll show you on the breaks.
You know, I checked it out.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Black man, He's got it.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
No, but he's fit.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I know black men. You all the board on that.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Okay, let's take a break.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
All the board on that haven't changed.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
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Speaker 6 (16:46):
Mister Jones also said some other things that I think
there's one comment that got blown up in the media
that I didn't take it a certain way. But I
feel like me I have an opinion because I've been
around the organization. I feel like the fans probably.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Have an opinion.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And then I want to get the player's opinion about
what he said when we come back.
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Speaker 6 (19:27):
All right, I'm gonna paraphrase and I want to get
y'all's opinion about it, because I didn't think.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
It was that big of a deal.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
I thought it was just mister Jones talking about things
he talks about during contract negotiations. But he some people
took it and said it was a dig at players,
right that when he's negotiating and he's talking about contracts.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
The way I took it was you have a lot
of things.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
To factor in, and he mentioned a couple of players
missing time and not being on the field for the
duration of their contract, and those are things that you
think about. I took it as talking out loud about
here's some of the things, and you know, we might
we might not have this player.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
We didn't have this player. We didn't have this player.
And JJ Watt.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Retweeted it and said, yeah, you know, or reposted it
and said, nothing like starting training camp with your owner
taking jabs at your players, which I know I think
how he meant it.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Maybe I don't, maybe.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
He actually meant it as a jab, but I just
thought he meant it that way. And then I think
the fans took it one way. And then I want
to get your perspective. Jesse On, as a player would
you take that as as just Jerry saying Jerry things
or would that would you be offended or hurt by
that particular statement if you had missed times you want?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You want Kurt's answer firs, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Let's go to Kurt. How did you take it?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well?
Speaker 11 (20:53):
I thought sort of typical in these press conferences, nothing
ever's ever really said clear in some ways, and so
I don't think he was trying to take a shot,
but it could be. I mean sure, a lot of
people it sounded like, well, do we want to sign
big contracts because these guys get hurt? And it's like, well,
you're paying them to play, and now you're blaming them
(21:14):
because they got hur when they play. That kind of thing,
which was what what.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah or whatever. I didn't take it as him blaming them.
I just took it.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
I don't we think.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
Yeah, I don't think he was trying to blame them,
but he blamed them. He didn't say it great, which
you know, it's the kind of the way it goes sometimes.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Jesse, how did you take it?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
First, as a media member and listening and covering and
being around mister Jones for all of these years, very
few things that he says, is not calculated. I'm sorry,
it just it just isn't like he is still at
eighty two three years old, very sharp. It's still very
very sharp. Agreed, So nothing that he says, it's a
(21:59):
forty in slip.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
So you think he calculated going in about six years
ago to say.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Glory whole that I knew that he was playing having fun.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
He said he was traveled wedge that in he went
and said, I'm gonna go see if I can get
away with this, if anybody really knows what this means, or.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
If they're all going to be perverse.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, as a player, there's a couple levels to it.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Because he took shots kind of at Dak maybe some
steal and then digs right. If I'm Dyke Prescott, nothing bothers.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Me because I'm rich.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
He gave me sixty million, bro, say whatever you want,
whatever you want, it's a checkpu on clear.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
I have no feelings that you bought my feelings, you
bought my fing outside of outside of degrading my wife
and my children.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
You can say whatever you brother, you're giving me. I'm
getting sixty million. I'm fifty one million dollars against the cat.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
This year. I don't even thank you for saying ugly things.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Say what what you want to take a shot at me?
I don't care they called me mister Prescott. A bank
doesn't matter to me if I'm Trayvon Diggs. This is
a further moore to let you know we beefing. I'm
not really feeling you. Something there, Yeah, there is, there
is some and this is this is again, this is
(23:19):
how mister Jones and he operates when he gets to
a point where he's kind of a little.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Bit fed up with you.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Did it with Deaz, did it with Amari? Anybody who
has a little bit of a name. All of a sudden,
those things come out in the media. There are digs
at you, no point intended. So the dig's comment about
that contract was a dig?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Was a dig?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
It was it was letting it was letting him know
and letting people know you're not on my good side.
Speaker 12 (23:46):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Was it justified?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
I think if it was a dig, was it justified
knowing that he didn't want to rehab here and that
everything that's kind of going on is.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
That you're the general manager, you're the owner, You're supposed
to be above reproach, You're supposed to be the guy
that's supposed to be up here with it. You're not
supposed to get into the pettiness of of of of media,
you know, digs like you're supposed to be up here
at a different level, knowing you're the billionaire, right like
you're you're you're the billionaire, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Don't have to take shots at these guys. And then
poor Terrence Steele, right, poor Terrence Steele.
Speaker 15 (24:28):
He's running active, He's probably sitting somewhere eating piece of cantalo,
probably having a little bit of honeydew, and all of
a sudden he's like, and Terren Steele, think about I
should have done that contract.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He's like, whoa wait, how the bus backed up on him?
That's not that's not now is there truth under this?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Maybe you shouldn't have given them that deal to Terrence Steel,
but at the time you did.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But again this goes alone in your blueprint.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
But that's what you know. Terrence hurt his knee after
he got the deal, and so what I like.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
He didn't want it, Like, it's one thing if I'm
not this is not me defending Terrance Steele.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's one thing.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
If Terrence Steele got his deal and then decided I'm
gonna go bungee jump or parasl or you know, I'm
driving a motorcycle down the toll way at one hundred
and seventy five miles an hour when I get to
action that and I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Hurt playing basketball.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Twist right, Like, if.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
I'm doing something reckless and I get hurt, then justify
you taking a shot at me because you paid me
money and then I went and got reckless. But if
I got hurt in the game trying to do my
best to make sure that your football team, my football team,
our football team is successful. Yeah right, But also don't
(25:46):
blame Terrence Steele in his representation because this is a
part of the blueprint. Again, Terrence still got his deal done.
It right around the same time that you were interfeued
with another one of your best players and you do
this thing where you know, and we had a record
Reckie Specy segment earlier on my DLS show of could
there be another cowboy that gets a deal done before
(26:08):
Mike's deal? And we threw names out there like Sam Williams,
Jake Ferguson, Brendan Aubrey. No All Bland's not gonna take
another because because this is the deal. This is this
is the this is the this is the the Jalen
Smith type deals. Right, Hey, we'll do business. And the
guys who are kind of in that mint level will
(26:29):
be like, I'll take it, you know, Jayalen Tobert, guys
who are like, give me now, get me down. You know, hey,
I'll take that fifteen million dollars guaranteed, three year, twenty
something million dollar deal.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Sure I will, boss.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
And while you're feuding with your star, you pay your
mid level guys and like, see, we're open for business.
See this guy took a deal. I don't know what
their problem is. We're open. We're open for business. They
did it with Zeke, right, they did it with.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
When CD was there.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
So these other guys come in here when you open
up the sign for business, trying to prove a point
to your best player, that's open for business, and you
give these other dudes deal and then you're mad when
they don't pan out for the deal. Well you opened
up this. So for a guy like Terrence Steele, he
was like, well, if that given guarantees are right here,
I will get mine now and see what happens you know.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Maybe maybe I'll play this, maybe I don't.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
But the fact of the matter is I got money
in a contract that that normally I probably wouldn't have got.
But because you want to take this route of open
it up for business, then we'll walk through the door
and sign the deal.
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Speaker 5 (30:50):
Nate Neton, what's up?
Speaker 16 (30:53):
Yeah, bro, I'm he good to hear you, guys.
Speaker 12 (30:56):
Forsman grad to be a part of just Mixed with
the Hanger with the boys. Man, it's been exciting this
one day I've seen, this day and a half I've seen,
and it's been exciting. And I like how the interview
went with Shady And what I mean by that is
they asked mister Jones, Stephen Jones and guys a lot
of questions football related and now football related. But I
(31:19):
like what coach Shardenheimer did is he kept it about football,
and more importantly, he kept reiterating we're just out here
without pass. We opened with the pads on Sunday, And
I like how he kept that. When they asked him
a question about the running back, who's the starting running back?
He said, I don't know they haven't gotten in past.
I see how a guy can run with it when
(31:41):
the hole is wide open, but I want to see
how he does when they're hitting. So I'm liking how
he's sticking to his mantra of competition being who they
can be. And then when this is the first time,
I say Jesse and I say Shannon, I don't know
if curtis there, but the first time, I think you
(32:02):
can really sell to guys. Hey, your in camp. Look
at our guys. We have new guys, veteran and oh,
this is the first time in a long time where
guys are not slotted in all twenty two positions into
some positions I think that are open and up for debate.
(32:22):
So you know, especially at the corner position, there's no
true starters there until Biggs get back. But when we
don't know when he's going to be back, who's going
to be your slot corner? Who is your linebacker? They've
brought in veteran guys to play linebackers, So now you know,
I don't know if I'm pronouncing the kid name right.
It's lower foul, is that it? Yeah? You don't do
(32:49):
me like that, y'all. Y'all don't struggle as it is.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
He got a year under his belt, so he said
his name correctly.
Speaker 16 (32:58):
Take yourself.
Speaker 12 (32:59):
But there I think there's true competition at a few positions.
You know, who's you know, even for the backup. There's
true competition at certain.
Speaker 16 (33:09):
Positions you know, you know, and so guys.
Speaker 12 (33:13):
Are given there you know, you know you said that
coach didn't think they practiced were good yesterday. Well, for
the first day. I've normally seen guys come out and
be hyped and they run in one hundred miles an
hour the first fifteen to twenty minutes of practice. But
these guys was hyped the last five to ten minutes
(33:33):
of practice. They was running at a high rate. So
I don't think they can run any faster without killing
about running into somebody killing themselves. So, uh, they made
must was a lot of mental errors yesterday.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I was they didn't have the conditioning that he expected
him to have, so he was really said he was
going to notch it off. I guess, So that's that's
Nate said. They were practicing hard to the end of practice,
so they mustn't.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Yeah, that's really gonna get after in practice.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
I mean I mean, if you practice and if faster,
you know you you know, you got to leave room
enough to be able to break down and not hit
somebody or not run over somebody well, or not knock
somebody on the ground.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's really fast.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yesterday, didn't he blow a couple of people up and
practice and coach had to pull him to the side
and talk to him.
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Jesse, you understand what
I'm talking about. And the best example I can give
somebody is run at a wall, have speed, then run
at a wall three quarter speed. See what happened, you know,
and try to stop five people before you get to
that wall. It ain't like this, like you're still walking.
If you run in two or three steps faster than
(34:44):
what you know them they're doing, you're gonna bump that
wall and it ain't gonna feel good. And that's how
these guys they They've been wide open out there as
far as I can see. And I stayed out there,
like I said, until about five minutes the end of practice,
and they was it was still going pretty fast. Like
I said, a lot of times on the first day,
you'll see guys hooping and hollering, but about halfway through
(35:07):
all that doesn't left. They kind of stayed like that.
And the day when I walked out there on the field,
they was kind of going pretty fast and pretty hyped.
So until they put on them paths, we're not going
to really see. You know, we misjudged a lot of kids.
We gave a lot of kids, We overhyped a lot
of kids. And as the season went on, you know,
(35:28):
we saw that we read these kids wrong.
Speaker 16 (35:31):
It's only until you put on paths.
Speaker 12 (35:34):
Go against the Rams playing the preseason games and you
get to see a little bit of what's going to happen.
Speaker 11 (35:40):
I was wonder shot, he had said in his press conference,
but he wanted a more physical training camp. But how
is that possible in today's NFL.
Speaker 12 (35:51):
It I see it with the Rams constantly, and you
can tell that guys are more He don't want you
to get ready to hit. He wants you to be
ready to hit. And that coach at the parting I
should man had the Rams and the Reeves players like that.
Philadelphia is like that. It's like, hey, fellas, we've been
(36:13):
out here running one hundred miles an hour. Now it's
time to compete. And that's what all I guess, all
the ping ponging and all the basketball shoot he didn't.
Guys know that if you compete hard and that if
you do write the right things, we're going to give
you opportunity. So now we guys put on pads, like
Coach McCarthy said, we don't want no fighting, we don't
(36:35):
want this, and we don't want to Well you don't
a lot of times. Yeah, be smart, but how far
are you willing to push it physically to show people
that you're ready to play? And I think he's going
to give these hits a chance, or these young men
a chance to push it. And then if this guy
walks in.
Speaker 16 (36:53):
And halfway does it, but you walk in and overdo it,
if we have.
Speaker 12 (36:57):
To pull you back a little bit, I think he's
willing to take that chance to see where his team
is at. Because I'm telling you Sunday, when they put
on the past, let's see when the rams come in
here a few days later, a few weeks say, let's see,
you know, because I know when the rams come they
they love in the squad scrivages. They love trying to
(37:19):
come in your backyard, your hock day legs and do
it on your you know, hack day leg and do
it on your legs. I've seen it, you know, so
I won't.
Speaker 16 (37:28):
So this is what he's talking about.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
I mean, Jesse, what are your thoughts when you said competitive?
That's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
And that's a part of the culture that he's trying
to bring, is that we're competing at every turn, right,
nothing is nothing is going without a level of competition,
and competition breeds breeds excellence and what what you what
you want is And to Nate's earlier point was nobody
was slided into kind of like these starter positions.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Of course, you have your quarterback and you got see
the land.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, those are the dudes.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
But there's like the guys who fall behind the stars. Right,
Like we know, walking into training camp, Tyler Smith, that's
your left guard, right, Dak Prescott that is your quarterback,
Ceedee Lamb that is your starting receiving Michael Parson that
is your starting defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
The rest of y'all.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Yeah, the rest of y'all know that if someone outperforms you,
that person will be starting. That person will be getting
those you know, those type of reps.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So it's competing at every turn.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
We want to compete in a walm up, if we
want to compete in the individuals drills, we want to compete,
and that to faster, to foster that type of chemistry
and culture. You laugh at the ping pong or the basketball,
all those things. It's those small deposits that never let
me stop competing with you. You beat me in ping pong, Okay, cool.
(38:51):
When I see you out on the field, I ain't
forget about ping pong. It still exists. But now I'm
getting my lick back out here. And then when we
out here, hey, hey, well you done. I guess I meat,
I run that ping pong game back. So it's a
it's it's it's like you know in the in the
in the biblical world.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
They say pray without ceasing.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
So it because a constant about how you go about
your life competing without ceasing. Everything that we do will
be and have such a level of competition that it
never turns off. And that's the part that sharpens the
iron amongst the men in the locker room.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
So will you see more in the roles that aren't established,
like let's just say running back. Will you see more
at this camp of sharing first team reps because they're
creating that culture of competing. Or will they let guys
settle in, give them a chance and then a week
or so later you No, you don't.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Have time, brother Shamon. If a guys, if a guy's
hot and doing what he needed to do, you get it. Now.
We still have three preseason games. Guys are gonna be
getting rotating in and they're gonna be getting judged. So
you know, you you know, like you said, it's certain
guys they left top your left guard. You know, you
may not play still as much because you know who
(40:05):
he is, you know, but Guid needs to play, you know,
because Austin Richards needs he needs to be given an opportunity.
You know, because if they say, okay, let's say Austin Richard, Hey,
Austin Riches need to play. So when they present this
to mister Jones or mister Stephen Jones say these guys
need to be on the field, coach, you got to
(40:26):
be able to show them to you. I mean, you
got to be able to sell this and you got
to be able to go to Austin Richard say hey man.
Speaker 16 (40:31):
This is your shot. Whereas before everybody was just locked
in either by draft position.
Speaker 12 (40:37):
Or because you made a lot of money. And I
think what coach shot. And now I'm just saying, okay, yeah,
we got to take that into consideration, to mister Jones,
but I didn't get kill you to give all these
folks this money.
Speaker 16 (40:50):
I'm but I am saying to this guy not named.
Speaker 12 (40:55):
Parsons, get this guy a chance. This guy deserves, you know.
And that's what I've been screaming for is I've heard
the by committee, but some things can't always be by committee.
And the five of these guys that we've named, the
so called studs on our team, if they're not named,
(41:17):
that give the coach a chance to let the other
guys compete. Like, hey man, this guy can't do what
you think he can do. But this guy here, I
feel that he can. Can. We have a look at him.
I mean, it ain't you know, I know it ain't
no time for trying to rebuild. I understand that's the
cowboy mantra that hey, all we do is reload. But
(41:37):
last if you was reloaded, I couldn't tell the record.
Then indicated.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
M Well, Nate, we're out of time today.
Speaker 12 (41:49):
Okay, my brother I'm sorry I called lady. I knew
my buy just had to shoot his shoot shooters load.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Yeah, we thanks for letting us in the show.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
On that note, we talked about the business side before
you called, so it's perfect time and we got to
talk about the football stuff.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
We won't have a padded practice till Sunday.
Speaker 12 (42:08):
Correct Sunday, Yes, sir, So if you want to call.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
In Friday and just give us an update, feel free,
and then definitely we're what next week.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Tuesday, Thursday. So Tuesday we.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Get to have a really good conversation because you get shirt,
you'll be out on the field watching everything as it
goes down whenever the Underwear Olympics.
Speaker 12 (42:28):
Are over right, yes sir?
Speaker 5 (42:30):
All right? Any final thoughts or words before we get
out of here.
Speaker 12 (42:34):
Hey man, you guys keep holding the fort down, keep
making it. Have my hope that you can join Jesse
on the tenth and coming out here so we can
have a full short of rock this thing the way
it needs to be done, hanging with the board style.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah we go California. Cata said, I can't say hope
you might.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Hope you Oh all right, fellas Nay, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Jesse, good seeing you, Kirk beack together. We will be.
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Back, I guess Friday, same time, Friday, two o'clock. Matt,
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Evan, welcome to the team.
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Chris Bean, thanks for holding it down out in Oxnard.
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We will be back Friday.
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you say Heaven? If I missed that, you missed it,
I'm sorry I didn't.
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I welcomed him to the team because I didn't call
him black Evan. I guess am I even allowed to say.
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That you said it?
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All right. We will see you on Friday, same time,
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was a pretty mild opening press conference.
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Are you tired, though, Kurt Shendon, Are you tired?
Speaker 9 (02:52):
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Does it get it? Does it get old?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
It doesn't get old, because honestly, being around this team
for twenty plus years, it's what I expect.
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It's let me ask y' all this. Oh that's me. Sorry,
you're let me let me ask you this. Do you think.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Jerry just doesn't He in the back of his mind
he knows he's getting these deals done, and he just
really it's not that important. He's like, I'm gonna get
this done. Like I know it buff it makes us crazy.
It probably when it when your financial future is hinging
on millions and millions and millions and tens of millions
(03:31):
of dollars, it's probably nerve wracking of what if I
get hurt, what if I get in a car wreck,
what if something happens and I don't have a contract,
And you know, he probably just he's on he wants
to go on vacation in the summer, not saying that
he's not trying to get the deals done, but he knows,
he knows he's going to get these deals done.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But see, that's here's here lies the issue for me.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
If anyone that's been under rock, we're talking about Michael
Parson's contract.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Hearing lies. The issue for me is.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
When you label yourself as the general manager, don't get vacation.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Now look the wrong. I don't think he's really going on.
I don't think he's putting that on hold for that
Like he's on the yacht. He just knows he's gonna
get it done. And what's the hurt.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But the hurry is is that you create. And I
get it.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Like Jerry's always like, I don't care what you say
about me, just spell my name right. Well, it was
called twelve inch headlines or whatever whatever the amount.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Is, publicity, publicity.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I get all that. I understand all that, but I
like it.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Are you tired?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I am.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
I've been a part of this organization as a player
and as a media member since two thousand and nine,
so I'm fifteen years in. I'm not you know, you
guys got more time.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm tired.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
I'm tired of the same script. I'm appreciated tip that
I get to do, I get to do this. I'm
appreciative that we have an owner that's going to give
us days upon days upon days of content to talk about.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
It, and lets us talk about it, and let's It's
a lot of teams that are like, don't touch this
right and week freely.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
But no, Well, sometime I get in trouble, but for
the most part, I don't get called to the principal's
office very often.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Usually when you do, it's about the stuff that people
wouldn't even think it's about. It's not even the big stuff,
like you could criticize the team and ownership and all
that that you want, but it's the it's the dumb
stuff that that that will get.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You, that will get me. Yeah, but I am, I am.
I'm tired.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
I'm tired of us having to decipher what the meanings are.
I'm tired of us having the back and forth mud
slinging and tongue wrestling between the owner and the star
playing well between two.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, see, look you caught yourself. You're learning to.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Learn it, matory, but it's unnecessary, like the way, and
if I must be honest, Mike is winning the pr
battle over this.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, he's winning. He is.
Speaker 10 (06:13):
He is out Jerry and Jerry, which rewind six months ago.
I don't think any of us in this room would
have thought his maturity the way he's shown maturity in
this situation, it didn't exist six months ago. Like he's
he's learning how to play the game from the best
(06:34):
that's ever played it, and right now he's winning.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You're right, No, he is.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
And and kudos to David Maluguetto, who I'm sure is
coaching him in this process on how and what and
when to say certain things. But Micah has a mind
of his one. I agree one hundred percent with that.
But also you can tell by the things that he's
because his message has changed, right, Like you go, look
over the last six to twelve months. It went from
(06:58):
I don't really need forty and you know, team friendly deal.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Kind of talking.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
You know, Jerry and I talked, and we had a
meeting of the minds from Clarence Hill and other guys
talking about that.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Till I went to, yeah, like my agent handles that.
Talk to my agent this.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
You know, his message in the form of how he's
presenting it has changed. But I am like, we we
we we don't have to do this, Like this doesn't
have to happen.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Gets frustrating, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Like, for example, we're gonna have this same conversation three
hundred and sixty five days from now for another best
player on your football team, who will be another best
player at his position in the entire National Football League,
when you already have the blueprint of what that contract
should look like, we'll be We'll be here next year
(07:50):
for your left guard. We will be here next year
talking about when and will the theft guard gets signed,
and we'll have the same conversations because the road map
for Jerry, and it even even in his conversation he
says things like, I haven't talked to the agent. I
(08:10):
talked to the principal. I talk to the player. And
this is a This is a game to him. This
is a game for Jerry. And the reason he talks
to the player and not David ma Lugetta or an agent,
from my opinion is Jerry wants to play the game
(08:31):
of emotional ties. Micah is a training camp, which I
don't think he should be he I don't I don't
think he. I don't think he should even be present,
and I get the whole leadership thing. He shouldn't even
be there. But Jerry plays the strings of that football
players love football.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Michaeh.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
I've said a lot of different things about Micah. I've
never said he doesn't like football. Micah loves football. Micah
doesn't like being away from football. Michael Micah suffers from fomo.
He suffers from fomo. He loves being around his teammates.
He loves the game of football. So it's more of
a punishment to him if he stayed at home and
(09:10):
away from the team with nothing else to do.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So you can't see.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Everybody's a training camp now, So you can't go and
get your other friends, the other buddies and travel the
world because they working. You have to sit at home
with Mama and them and and and just play the game. Well,
he don't want that, So what Jerry does. I'll talk
to you because the emotion that you have is that
you feel like you're letting the guys in locker room
down by not being here or you know, not showing up.
(09:34):
You feel that you're letting fans down by not being here,
by not showing up. So I'm gonna talk to you,
and I'm gonna get your emotional heartstrings all in a
tizzy to get you to agree upon some things. And
now put the pressure on your agent to get things
moving while he doesn't talk to David Maloguetta. Is because
David Malagetta has zero emotional attachment to the Dallas Cowboys.
(09:55):
Darrin Bablogella gives, doesn't give a damn.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
He looks at the paper and the zero.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
His responsibility is for himself and his client. He's not
tied to anybody in that locker room. He's not tied
to any fan base, he's not tied to any organization.
So emotionally, you can never get to David Malogetto or
any other agent because he's saying, I know who I am.
I'm David mal I am the best football agent in
the business. Right now, here's my bottom line. I want this, this,
(10:25):
and this. I don't give a damn about dak CD,
Sam Williams, Aubrey Shoddy White, Cott. I don't care about
none of them, none of them out of David malogether,
none of them, none of them.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Don't care about any of them. There's zero emotional attachment.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
But my guy needs to make this is the standard
in the league. He needs to be paid this yes
or if not, we're walking. And so you think it's
more of like it's almost fun for Jim.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh, this is a sport. This is monopoly.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
What do you think it just because it's every it's
every it's every major.
Speaker 11 (10:58):
This is monopoly to him, know, but that that's I'm
not tired of it, I guess, but I am a
little frustrated because I don't understand the the philosophy, Like
obviously this is how he wants to do business and
drag it out to the last moment, but I don't
understand the advantage.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
To that because he can. That's the richness of it.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I was gonna ask, so this was in my mind.
Is it almost like I'm I'm I'm in charge and
said he said that yesterday. I'm gonna let you know
that he said it and the checks.
Speaker 11 (11:31):
Yeah, that just doesn't you know, all this drama is
created among the team, every question gonna be all this stuff,
and it just doesn't.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
I don't. It doesn't seem necessary, So I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
It's not it it's not.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
But it's almost like I think it's all it's almost
like I own this. I can do this the way
I want to do it. And you know what, the
more the media talks about it the more more. I'm
gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
More because I can, because I can, because I own
the star, the star, I own it.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
That's me, And I'm not so sure if I was
in his position, I wouldn't do the same thing because
everybody's talking about me.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Yeah, but think how much they would talk if if.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
What drama would there be if Micah's contract was signed
and George Pickens is getting along with everybody, everybody's so happy.
Guess what everybody's talking about today. Micah's there, he's not signed,
and this is what he had to say.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Yes, but you don't have to have toxic conversations fueling
like like fueling your football team. It could be it
could be that. It could be, boy, you let's talk
to Michael. This defense is coming together.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Sometimes when you're in a relationship and it's toxic, you
put up with it because it's just worth it.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's worth the toxicity.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The snappy nappy dugout and you.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Want everybody to look at what you look like on
Instagram and like a great couple.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And maybe that's why I don't do toxic. I don't
like toxic. I don't.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I don't, especially when I have to be there's some
situation where you know what because like I said this
earlier on a watch shows and like they're on the
same they're on the same grounds.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Why are we having these.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Competitions through the met the same tennis court, you're in
the same you're literally in the same compound, you're literally
working out, and there's a piece of tart between you
and and mister Jones's office.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Like I right there, we.
Speaker 11 (13:21):
Well say, but that's the problem that Micah is doing
the right thing. He's letting his agent handle it. And
so like they thought they had, Micah thought they were
close on a contract back in the spring. They probably are,
but then once he said talk to my agent, that
all changed.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
And so I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yeah, because there was something that Jerry probably said to
him that was like and michaelpht like, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 12 (13:41):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
I like that, And you have to understand and know Like, again, Michah,
he's a young man, right, I'm probably fifteen years older
than Micah somewhere around those spots. He's a young man, right,
Michah is a grown man. He's a young man. Michaeh
gets excited, like Micah loves these convers stations with Jerry.
(14:03):
We witnessed that like when around draft time, right, like
a lot of these players were taking these official visits
to all these different teams.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I didn't see one player, but like, oh look who
I'm with.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Selfie Now I'm a selfie with Jerry Jones, Like it
was this thing about that was it was just celebrity status.
And I'm telling you, I truly believe Micah is not
a person.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Who wants to stand alone.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Not saying that he can't and this is not a
shot that he had digs with them yesterday, but he
doesn't want to stand alone. He doesn't want to be
the mart or, the outcast, the dude who has to
just stand on ten toes down solo dolo. He likes
to be liked, like he likes that part, Like he
doesn't want to be unliked. And that's a tough that's
(14:54):
a that's a that's a tough, dynamic and weird place
to be in. Because to be a leader, which we
talk about at Todds, which I still stand ten tones
down on Michael, you don't have to be a leader.
You could just be the best football player in the league.
Being a leader is an option, don't. You don't have
to be a nuisance. You don't have to be a
mild content. You don't have to be a troublemaker. You
(15:15):
also don't have to be a leader.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
I wonder if Jerry's using that against him now in this.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
You don't have to do that. You don't have to
You could just be the best damn football player on
the planet. And that's okay too, That's totally cool. But
he enjoys the conversation of Jerry bringing him into the
suite at the Super Bowl, right, he brought that up
him at the National the semi finals game against a
whos Ohio State and as an.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
AT and T Stadium, Texas. Right.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
He enjoys being in the suite all day and then
ninety plus minutes after having a conversation with Jerry. It
makes him feel like he's important. Let the shark do
what the shark does. Let David do what he does. Like,
you don't have to have what did Dak do? Dak
was like, yeah, okay, cool, huh, Todd France, don't need
(16:03):
to talk to me. We talking about fishing life charity.
Talk to Todd. That's who that's you. Nothing you say
to me, I'm gonna okay, I don't know what I
know is. I know plays, I know down in distance,
I know route combinations, I can read defenses. I don't
need to comment on maybe you can't, but contract stuff
(16:25):
that's DoD.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Speaking of Dak, you see the pictures he put on
Instagram over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I don't have Instagram.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
He is fit, is he? I'll show you on the breaks.
You know, I checked it out.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Black man, He's got it.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
No, but he's fit.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I know black men. You all the board on that.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Okay, let's take a break.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
All the board on that haven't changed.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
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Speaker 6 (16:46):
Mister Jones also said some other things that I think
there's one comment that got blown up in the media
that I didn't take it a certain way. But I
feel like me I have an opinion because I've been
around the organization. I feel like the fans probably.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Have an opinion.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And then I want to get the player's opinion about
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Speaker 6 (19:27):
All right, I'm gonna paraphrase and I want to get
y'all's opinion about it, because I didn't think.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
It was that big of a deal.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
I thought it was just mister Jones talking about things
he talks about during contract negotiations. But he some people
took it and said it was a dig at players,
right that when he's negotiating and he's talking about contracts.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
The way I took it was you have a lot
of things.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
To factor in, and he mentioned a couple of players
missing time and not being on the field for the
duration of their contract, and those are things that you
think about. I took it as talking out loud about
here's some of the things, and you know, we might
we might not have this player.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
We didn't have this player. We didn't have this player.
And JJ Watt.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Retweeted it and said, yeah, you know, or reposted it
and said, nothing like starting training camp with your owner
taking jabs at your players, which I know I think
how he meant it.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Maybe I don't, maybe.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
He actually meant it as a jab, but I just
thought he meant it that way. And then I think
the fans took it one way. And then I want
to get your perspective. Jesse On, as a player would
you take that as as just Jerry saying Jerry things
or would that would you be offended or hurt by
that particular statement if you had missed times you want?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You want Kurt's answer firs, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Let's go to Kurt. How did you take it?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well?
Speaker 11 (20:53):
I thought sort of typical in these press conferences, nothing
ever's ever really said clear in some ways, and so
I don't think he was trying to take a shot,
but it could be. I mean sure, a lot of
people it sounded like, well, do we want to sign
big contracts because these guys get hurt? And it's like, well,
you're paying them to play, and now you're blaming them
(21:14):
because they got hur when they play. That kind of thing,
which was what what.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah or whatever. I didn't take it as him blaming them.
I just took it.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
I don't we think.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
Yeah, I don't think he was trying to blame them,
but he blamed them. He didn't say it great, which
you know, it's the kind of the way it goes sometimes.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Jesse, how did you take it?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
First, as a media member and listening and covering and
being around mister Jones for all of these years, very
few things that he says, is not calculated. I'm sorry,
it just it just isn't like he is still at
eighty two three years old, very sharp. It's still very
very sharp. Agreed, So nothing that he says, it's a
(21:59):
forty in slip.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
So you think he calculated going in about six years
ago to say.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Glory whole that I knew that he was playing having fun.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
He said he was traveled wedge that in he went
and said, I'm gonna go see if I can get
away with this, if anybody really knows what this means, or.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
If they're all going to be perverse.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, as a player, there's a couple levels to it.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Because he took shots kind of at Dak maybe some
steal and then digs right. If I'm Dyke Prescott, nothing bothers.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Me because I'm rich.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
He gave me sixty million, bro, say whatever you want,
whatever you want, it's a checkpu on clear.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
I have no feelings that you bought my feelings, you
bought my fing outside of outside of degrading my wife
and my children.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
You can say whatever you brother, you're giving me. I'm
getting sixty million. I'm fifty one million dollars against the cat.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
This year. I don't even thank you for saying ugly things.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Say what what you want to take a shot at me?
I don't care they called me mister Prescott. A bank
doesn't matter to me if I'm Trayvon Diggs. This is
a further moore to let you know we beefing. I'm
not really feeling you. Something there, Yeah, there is, there
is some and this is this is again, this is
(23:19):
how mister Jones and he operates when he gets to
a point where he's kind of a little.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Bit fed up with you.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Did it with Deaz, did it with Amari? Anybody who
has a little bit of a name. All of a sudden,
those things come out in the media. There are digs
at you, no point intended. So the dig's comment about
that contract was a dig?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Was a dig?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
It was it was letting it was letting him know
and letting people know you're not on my good side.
Speaker 12 (23:46):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Was it justified?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
I think if it was a dig, was it justified
knowing that he didn't want to rehab here and that
everything that's kind of going on is.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
That you're the general manager, you're the owner, You're supposed
to be above reproach, You're supposed to be the guy
that's supposed to be up here with it. You're not
supposed to get into the pettiness of of of of media,
you know, digs like you're supposed to be up here
at a different level, knowing you're the billionaire, right like
you're you're you're the billionaire, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Don't have to take shots at these guys. And then
poor Terrence Steele, right, poor Terrence Steele.
Speaker 15 (24:28):
He's running active, He's probably sitting somewhere eating piece of cantalo,
probably having a little bit of honeydew, and all of
a sudden he's like, and Terren Steele, think about I
should have done that contract.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He's like, whoa wait, how the bus backed up on him?
That's not that's not now is there truth under this?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Maybe you shouldn't have given them that deal to Terrence Steel,
but at the time you did.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But again this goes alone in your blueprint.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
But that's what you know. Terrence hurt his knee after
he got the deal, and so what I like.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
He didn't want it, Like, it's one thing if I'm
not this is not me defending Terrance Steele.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's one thing.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
If Terrence Steele got his deal and then decided I'm
gonna go bungee jump or parasl or you know, I'm
driving a motorcycle down the toll way at one hundred
and seventy five miles an hour when I get to
action that and I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Hurt playing basketball.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Twist right, Like, if.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
I'm doing something reckless and I get hurt, then justify
you taking a shot at me because you paid me
money and then I went and got reckless. But if
I got hurt in the game trying to do my
best to make sure that your football team, my football team,
our football team is successful. Yeah right, But also don't
(25:46):
blame Terrence Steele in his representation because this is a
part of the blueprint. Again, Terrence still got his deal done.
It right around the same time that you were interfeued
with another one of your best players and you do
this thing where you know, and we had a record
Reckie Specy segment earlier on my DLS show of could
there be another cowboy that gets a deal done before
(26:08):
Mike's deal? And we threw names out there like Sam Williams,
Jake Ferguson, Brendan Aubrey. No All Bland's not gonna take
another because because this is the deal. This is this
is the this is the this is the the Jalen
Smith type deals. Right, Hey, we'll do business. And the
guys who are kind of in that mint level will
(26:29):
be like, I'll take it, you know, Jayalen Tobert, guys
who are like, give me now, get me down. You know, hey,
I'll take that fifteen million dollars guaranteed, three year, twenty
something million dollar deal.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Sure I will, boss.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
And while you're feuding with your star, you pay your
mid level guys and like, see, we're open for business.
See this guy took a deal. I don't know what
their problem is. We're open. We're open for business. They
did it with Zeke, right, they did it with.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
When CD was there.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
So these other guys come in here when you open
up the sign for business, trying to prove a point
to your best player, that's open for business, and you
give these other dudes deal and then you're mad when
they don't pan out for the deal. Well you opened
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Speaker 5 (30:50):
Nate Neton, what's up?
Speaker 16 (30:53):
Yeah, bro, I'm he good to hear you, guys.
Speaker 12 (30:56):
Forsman grad to be a part of just Mixed with
the Hanger with the boys. Man, it's been exciting this
one day I've seen, this day and a half I've seen,
and it's been exciting. And I like how the interview
went with Shady And what I mean by that is
they asked mister Jones, Stephen Jones and guys a lot
of questions football related and now football related. But I
(31:19):
like what coach Shardenheimer did is he kept it about football,
and more importantly, he kept reiterating we're just out here
without pass. We opened with the pads on Sunday, And
I like how he kept that. When they asked him
a question about the running back, who's the starting running back?
He said, I don't know they haven't gotten in past.
I see how a guy can run with it when
(31:41):
the hole is wide open, but I want to see
how he does when they're hitting. So I'm liking how
he's sticking to his mantra of competition being who they
can be. And then when this is the first time,
I say Jesse and I say Shannon, I don't know
if curtis there, but the first time, I think you
(32:02):
can really sell to guys. Hey, your in camp. Look
at our guys. We have new guys, veteran and oh,
this is the first time in a long time where
guys are not slotted in all twenty two positions into
some positions I think that are open and up for debate.
(32:22):
So you know, especially at the corner position, there's no
true starters there until Biggs get back. But when we
don't know when he's going to be back, who's going
to be your slot corner? Who is your linebacker? They've
brought in veteran guys to play linebackers, So now you know,
I don't know if I'm pronouncing the kid name right.
It's lower foul, is that it? Yeah? You don't do
(32:49):
me like that, y'all. Y'all don't struggle as it is.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
He got a year under his belt, so he said
his name correctly.
Speaker 16 (32:58):
Take yourself.
Speaker 12 (32:59):
But there I think there's true competition at a few positions.
You know, who's you know, even for the backup. There's
true competition at certain.
Speaker 16 (33:09):
Positions you know, you know, and so guys.
Speaker 12 (33:13):
Are given there you know, you know you said that
coach didn't think they practiced were good yesterday. Well, for
the first day. I've normally seen guys come out and
be hyped and they run in one hundred miles an
hour the first fifteen to twenty minutes of practice. But
these guys was hyped the last five to ten minutes
(33:33):
of practice. They was running at a high rate. So
I don't think they can run any faster without killing
about running into somebody killing themselves. So, uh, they made
must was a lot of mental errors yesterday.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I was they didn't have the conditioning that he expected
him to have, so he was really said he was
going to notch it off. I guess, So that's that's
Nate said. They were practicing hard to the end of practice,
so they mustn't.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Yeah, that's really gonna get after in practice.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
I mean I mean, if you practice and if faster,
you know you you know, you got to leave room
enough to be able to break down and not hit
somebody or not run over somebody well, or not knock
somebody on the ground.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's really fast.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yesterday, didn't he blow a couple of people up and
practice and coach had to pull him to the side
and talk to him.
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Jesse, you understand what
I'm talking about. And the best example I can give
somebody is run at a wall, have speed, then run
at a wall three quarter speed. See what happened, you know,
and try to stop five people before you get to
that wall. It ain't like this, like you're still walking.
If you run in two or three steps faster than
(34:44):
what you know them they're doing, you're gonna bump that
wall and it ain't gonna feel good. And that's how
these guys they They've been wide open out there as
far as I can see. And I stayed out there,
like I said, until about five minutes the end of practice,
and they was it was still going pretty fast. Like
I said, a lot of times on the first day,
you'll see guys hooping and hollering, but about halfway through
(35:07):
all that doesn't left. They kind of stayed like that.
And the day when I walked out there on the field,
they was kind of going pretty fast and pretty hyped.
So until they put on them paths, we're not going
to really see. You know, we misjudged a lot of kids.
We gave a lot of kids, We overhyped a lot
of kids. And as the season went on, you know,
(35:28):
we saw that we read these kids wrong.
Speaker 16 (35:31):
It's only until you put on paths.
Speaker 12 (35:34):
Go against the Rams playing the preseason games and you
get to see a little bit of what's going to happen.
Speaker 11 (35:40):
I was wonder shot, he had said in his press conference,
but he wanted a more physical training camp. But how
is that possible in today's NFL.
Speaker 12 (35:51):
It I see it with the Rams constantly, and you
can tell that guys are more He don't want you
to get ready to hit. He wants you to be
ready to hit. And that coach at the parting I
should man had the Rams and the Reeves players like that.
Philadelphia is like that. It's like, hey, fellas, we've been
(36:13):
out here running one hundred miles an hour. Now it's
time to compete. And that's what all I guess, all
the ping ponging and all the basketball shoot he didn't.
Guys know that if you compete hard and that if
you do write the right things, we're going to give
you opportunity. So now we guys put on pads, like
Coach McCarthy said, we don't want no fighting, we don't
(36:35):
want this, and we don't want to Well you don't
a lot of times. Yeah, be smart, but how far
are you willing to push it physically to show people
that you're ready to play? And I think he's going
to give these hits a chance, or these young men
a chance to push it. And then if this guy
walks in.
Speaker 16 (36:53):
And halfway does it, but you walk in and overdo it,
if we have.
Speaker 12 (36:57):
To pull you back a little bit, I think he's
willing to take that chance to see where his team
is at. Because I'm telling you Sunday, when they put
on the past, let's see when the rams come in
here a few days later, a few weeks say, let's see,
you know, because I know when the rams come they
they love in the squad scrivages. They love trying to
(37:19):
come in your backyard, your hock day legs and do
it on your you know, hack day leg and do
it on your legs. I've seen it, you know, so
I won't.
Speaker 16 (37:28):
So this is what he's talking about.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
I mean, Jesse, what are your thoughts when you said competitive?
That's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
And that's a part of the culture that he's trying
to bring, is that we're competing at every turn, right,
nothing is nothing is going without a level of competition,
and competition breeds breeds excellence and what what you what
you want is And to Nate's earlier point was nobody
was slided into kind of like these starter positions.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Of course, you have your quarterback and you got see
the land.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, those are the dudes.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
But there's like the guys who fall behind the stars. Right,
Like we know, walking into training camp, Tyler Smith, that's
your left guard, right, Dak Prescott that is your quarterback,
Ceedee Lamb that is your starting receiving Michael Parson that
is your starting defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
The rest of y'all.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Yeah, the rest of y'all know that if someone outperforms you,
that person will be starting. That person will be getting
those you know, those type of reps.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So it's competing at every turn.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
We want to compete in a walm up, if we
want to compete in the individuals drills, we want to compete,
and that to faster, to foster that type of chemistry
and culture. You laugh at the ping pong or the basketball,
all those things. It's those small deposits that never let
me stop competing with you. You beat me in ping pong, Okay, cool.
(38:51):
When I see you out on the field, I ain't
forget about ping pong. It still exists. But now I'm
getting my lick back out here. And then when we
out here, hey, hey, well you done. I guess I meat,
I run that ping pong game back. So it's a
it's it's it's like you know in the in the
in the biblical world.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
They say pray without ceasing.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
So it because a constant about how you go about
your life competing without ceasing. Everything that we do will
be and have such a level of competition that it
never turns off. And that's the part that sharpens the
iron amongst the men in the locker room.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
So will you see more in the roles that aren't established,
like let's just say running back. Will you see more
at this camp of sharing first team reps because they're
creating that culture of competing. Or will they let guys
settle in, give them a chance and then a week
or so later you No, you don't.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Have time, brother Shamon. If a guys, if a guy's
hot and doing what he needed to do, you get it. Now.
We still have three preseason games. Guys are gonna be
getting rotating in and they're gonna be getting judged. So
you know, you you know, like you said, it's certain
guys they left top your left guard. You know, you
may not play still as much because you know who
(40:05):
he is, you know, but Guid needs to play, you know,
because Austin Richards needs he needs to be given an opportunity.
You know, because if they say, okay, let's say Austin Richard, Hey,
Austin Riches need to play. So when they present this
to mister Jones or mister Stephen Jones say these guys
need to be on the field, coach, you got to
(40:26):
be able to show them to you. I mean, you
got to be able to sell this and you got
to be able to go to Austin Richard say hey man.
Speaker 16 (40:31):
This is your shot. Whereas before everybody was just locked
in either by draft position.
Speaker 12 (40:37):
Or because you made a lot of money. And I
think what coach shot. And now I'm just saying, okay, yeah,
we got to take that into consideration, to mister Jones,
but I didn't get kill you to give all these
folks this money.
Speaker 16 (40:50):
I'm but I am saying to this guy not named.
Speaker 12 (40:55):
Parsons, get this guy a chance. This guy deserves, you know.
And that's what I've been screaming for is I've heard
the by committee, but some things can't always be by committee.
And the five of these guys that we've named, the
so called studs on our team, if they're not named,
(41:17):
that give the coach a chance to let the other
guys compete. Like, hey man, this guy can't do what
you think he can do. But this guy here, I
feel that he can. Can. We have a look at him.
I mean, it ain't you know, I know it ain't
no time for trying to rebuild. I understand that's the
cowboy mantra that hey, all we do is reload. But
(41:37):
last if you was reloaded, I couldn't tell the record.
Then indicated.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
M Well, Nate, we're out of time today.
Speaker 12 (41:49):
Okay, my brother I'm sorry I called lady. I knew
my buy just had to shoot his shoot shooters load.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Yeah, we thanks for letting us in the show.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
On that note, we talked about the business side before
you called, so it's perfect time and we got to
talk about the football stuff.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
We won't have a padded practice till Sunday.
Speaker 12 (42:08):
Correct Sunday, Yes, sir, So if you want to call.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
In Friday and just give us an update, feel free,
and then definitely we're what next week.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Tuesday, Thursday. So Tuesday we.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Get to have a really good conversation because you get shirt,
you'll be out on the field watching everything as it
goes down whenever the Underwear Olympics.
Speaker 12 (42:28):
Are over right, yes sir?
Speaker 5 (42:30):
All right? Any final thoughts or words before we get
out of here.
Speaker 12 (42:34):
Hey man, you guys keep holding the fort down, keep
making it. Have my hope that you can join Jesse
on the tenth and coming out here so we can
have a full short of rock this thing the way
it needs to be done, hanging with the board style.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah we go California. Cata said, I can't say hope
you might.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Hope you Oh all right, fellas Nay, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Jesse, good seeing you, Kirk beack together. We will be.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
Back, I guess Friday, same time, Friday, two o'clock. Matt,
thanks for holding it down in the back, keeping us
on the air.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Evan, welcome to the team.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
Chris Bean, thanks for holding it down out in Oxnard.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
We will be back Friday.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Evan, black Evan, he's back there. I'll forget Evan. Did
you say Heaven? If I missed that, you missed it,
I'm sorry I didn't.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I welcomed him to the team because I didn't call
him black Evan. I guess am I even allowed to say.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
That you said it?
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Said it because you don't get me A Trump said it?
Speaker 5 (43:34):
All right. We will see you on Friday, same time,
same place. Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
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