September 24, 2025 • 47 mins
Hold onto your hats because this Green Bay defense plays fast, and they’ll throw a multitude of coverages at you on the back end. And then there’s that defensive line. The Packers’ front is led by a certain player we’re all acquainted with, but he’s not the only one to worry about. So how do the Cowboys attack this defense? Could it be handing it off to No. 33? Let’s get low and slow.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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He is shunning. That is Nate.
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
When we speak.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
About each and every show abut wingstop or Flavor gets.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Its wee Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
We have not said his name on this show since
it went down. He has been banned from this show,
but we can talk about him for the next three
days today, Tomorrow and Friday, and then no more.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We shall not speak his name anymore after this week.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But our guys coming to town, we get to talk
Packers defense. Are we even gonna talk about anybody else?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We just go to.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Actually, yes, you better absolutely, Are you better talk about it?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You better?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
All right, go ahead and talk about some folks. Tell
us what we're gonna I'm gonna give you number fifty
two Rashad Gary Rashon Garrett four point five sacks Football
leagues full points sacks.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But what I want to get to real quick like
is Kway Walker, h Edrin Cooper. This is the linebackers.
They are part of the rush package. They have a
They are very disciplined. They stay in their lanes. They
can cover fairly well. They never come off the field.
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That that right there impressed me. They play a four
man front which consists of Carbrooks Uh, Deontae Watt, Davante
Davante Wattson bad Eyes Davante watts and and Parsons. And
I already tell you about Gary. These guys are very disciplined.
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They play a four man front. They played a lot
of over against Cleveland, they played a little bit of
four man front depending on down the distance. Against Washington,
they're their linebackers will come up in the line and
fake like they're gonna they're gonna blitz. But when they
mainly come up into the office line. They finish run
some loan games, and what I call loan games is
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tackle in in UH. They'll loop around to the outside
or they'll let them. They'll let them go into their
UH to to play to a power side. And what
I'm talking about that is they'll stunt the tackle in.
They'll stunt the N N and then they'll see where
it's a gap and they'll go right where that gap at.
They are very disciplined. They're they're like worker bees. Everybody
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got their place and everybody know who they are.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
They play assignment alignment football, yes, sir, and they what
a concept.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well. I walked in before the show and I say,
you know what I And I told Jess. I said, Jesse,
the most the thing that this team that really stands
out to me is they play fast and they are disciplined.
Take it over, Jess.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
And when he said that, we both looked at each
other and I said, oh my god, Yeah, I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Say the same thing.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Every every phase of their defense, the front, the middle,
and the back end. They play very very fast, and
they're gonna give you a combination of different things. In
the back end, they're gonna play some Cover one, right,
and they're gonna they're gonna show one. Look a lot
of times they'll show two high safeties and then they'll
kind of you'll see as get close to the snap,
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they'll go on to Cover three. They'll play some Cover six.
So they'll play a multitude of coverages on the back
end to try to confuse the confuse the quarterback because
in the back of your mind, right as a quarterback, yes,
I'm looking and I'm checking for what the safety is
gonna do. But I'm also like, there's Rashaan Gary, there's
Michael Parsons, and so trying to put all that together.
(05:08):
Of all those got no safeties moving in late one
of those linebackers doing. Oh by the way, they have
these two guys coming off the edge, and you know
even the guys that back up Rashaan Gary.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
And and Lucas van Ness.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yes, so he was the starter, yes before Michael Parson's town.
So their their backup used to be their starter before
Michael came to town, and he's playing with this hair
on fire. Same thing for the guy Kobe Wooden. He's
also a backup, but when he comes in, he plays
like a starter. So these are the guys up front
when you're talking about, you know, stopping the run and
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really defending the run.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
But this team plays with speed.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
And let me ask my dumb question for the day.
You got it, man, When you say they play fast,
are you're talking like physically they are physically fast or
do they scheme like they're just hair they.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
All of that, all of that, all of that like
when you watch them on film, like it sticks out
when you see him running around it is. It's not
like one dude who's really fast. You see ten eleven
dudes who are just true truth. Like they're all over
the place with speed, with direction, and it's not a wild,
out of control fast. It's we recognize what we want
to do. When the ball is snapped, we're too where
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we're supposed to be. If it's handed off, we're rally
to the football. If they're disguising coverages, guys are getting
back to the deep thirds. Your guys are buzzing down
into the you know, into the.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Box, so many multiple looks, so everything we.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Have not been they have.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
They are like that because.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
That was because as he's talking, like y'all are saying
they're super fast, Well, you know what, let you play
fast on defense, confidence you're doing, knowing what you're doing,
and communicating like and did coverage.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think I saw maybe one blown coverage and they
recovered so quick too, you didn't really know if it
was a blow.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
And the one thing that I think is going to
be difficult for the Cowboys, especially the Cowboys offensive line front,
with the addition of now having you gotta have TJ.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Bass into the mix.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
You gotta have you know, uh Kaufman having his second
week starting, and then you know Terrence still has been
struggling the way that he's been struggling. When they start
to do these these twists and these stunts on their
defensive line, when they do their tackle in stunts, they'll
and they do it in multiple ways, like like Nate
was talking about, where they'll loop that guy from the end.
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They'll loop them two gaps around. Now he's coming down,
so they'll go they'll have their their their two defensive
tackles and they're shooting like towards the outside. He'll wrap
all the way, wrap around, coming straight down the middle
of you know, of your offensive line. And that's for
Sean Gary, that's Michael Parsons. They'll just do a simple
tackle in twitch a twist.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and so like.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's always something that is coming towards you with a
different look.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
These guys.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But let me emphasize, now, let me emphasize, but they
have lane integrity. I'm telling you they would run their
games with quickness and speed. But if I supposed to
be in the A and you supposed to be in
the B, they gonna beat up because they are like
the old Minnesota Vikings. We're gonna get the runner on
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the way to the quarterback. So they stay in their
lanes just in case you run a draw, just in
case you try to run a funky screen or something.
They still in their lanes so they can react. I
just had a Nate moment.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
But it covers his eyes like a premonition when you're
saying that, and I'm sitting there thinking, all right, Cowboys
offensive line, left side, you've had some issues?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Why right?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You definitely had some issues.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Now you've got a new guarden there, you got a
new center. This ain't the game you want with quick
guys that are running, you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Know, Like.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
When I was watching it yesterday and from a from
a general manager perspective, right, like if you just if
you took a step back and you said, bring back
Kenny Pickett, take away Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Right, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm sorry I keep saying Kenny Picket, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Excuse wait a minute, Kenny Clark, Like just just rewind
rewind this to middle of August, and Kenny Clark is
still on the Packers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Micah is not on the Packers anymore. Still a damn
good defense.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I get an under like this is a damn good
defense without my you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, So,
like I'm looking at and like we already knew what
their office was, right, Lafleur in that offense was already
very explosive offense, and you know all of that nonsense
they had George Love and those receivers in that running
game and all that kind of stuff. The GM looked
at that said you want to get rid of that
(10:02):
guy because he will be the missing piece that we
won on his defense.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
When you talk about one player away, when.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You talk about being a player away, like.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Without Michael Parsons, Van Ness and Kenny Clark, this defense
will still been absolutely fine.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Because Gary can rush the passer.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, fifty two, you got a guy backing up, backing
up Micah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Now that can start for thirty one other teams in
the league. Yes, at least for twenty eight of them.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, at least.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Might not start about but this is a guy who
was a starter.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
For them, right It was starting to find his way.
He was starting to find the.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
First first round pick.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
So like this was this is a guy who is
and so you look at it and you go. They
saw that and was like, this is a piece And
this is the thing that I talked about. And you
hear people talk about ramping up. This is what I'm
talking about. When I say all right, people like, oh,
well is gonna come in there, I'm like, glomm he
ain't done nothing in five six months. It's gonna take
(11:06):
him a couple of weeks to get going. But a
guy like Micah, who they've kind of ramped up, is
kind of into that fourth week of the season going
like this is now where he's kind of like it's
settled in. They understand him, He understands the defense a
little bit better. His sea legs are there, the conditioning
is there, the confidence is there, and they're just flying around.
(11:29):
And so I get why the front office was like,
if they're gonna give up this piece, this is the
exact piece that we would need to take over to
have the depth that we want to have, the closer
that we want. And now, like I said, Rashan Gary
by himself, was more more than a good enough. He
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was more than good enough to doing what he was doing.
And now you look at man, they're you know, the
pressure rate is up the you know, Micah is second
in the league, and you know, and pressure is area
on top. Rashaun Gary is leading the league in uh
in sacks, and their defensive front is like top three
in rush defense, and so on and so forth. This
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defense and the offense gets all of the praise because
we're we're in the offensive league, we're in the passing league,
and George Love and all that kind of stuff. Well, boy,
this defense, this defense, and they'll play your man coverage.
They'll go cover one and play your man coverage back there,
and they were sticking to guys. And that's why I'm like,
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you know, this game without having Ceed Lamb, I would
have felt better with Ceedee Lamb because in those moments,
whether if they decided to go man to man coverage,
what ceed would be able to do.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
But this is a good group man, good.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Group per game. This per game fourteen point seven points
they have given up in this early season still early. Yes,
passing game they given him one hundred and sixty eight
yards Russian. They giving up sixty four three point two average.
They have three TV three TVs scoring on them. But
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they have ten sacks. They have ten sacks. They given
up two hundred and fifty three total yards per game
right now. Just it's early in the season. They may
wind up, you know, at the end of the season
being the worst defense in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Some stats from Kurt Rashaun Gary first in the NFL
and sacks with four and a half, Deavonte Wyatt among
the leaders in pressure, and then their linebacking corps. Cooper
and Walker are in Kurt's favorite website PFF they're both
in the top twenty five and McDuffie would be if
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he had enough snaps.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's a pretty good unit. Yeah, not bad. You had
Michael Parson to the mix. He's scar on top. Through
three weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
He's second in pressures behind Nick Benito in Denver with
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Micaeh has nineteen hmm. And he's first off in off sides.
If that was a stat and make it, folks jump
off side, he's first to that. He just breathed on
one tackle against Washington. He just breathed on him and
he jumped off side.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Like we're talking, let me takkout and talking about ramping
up from Michael Parsons. In week one, he played thirty snaps.
In week two, he played forty seven snaps sixty seven
percent of the defensive snaps. In week three he played
fifty one snaps seventy three point six percent of the
defensive snaps. When you're talking about that ramping up, every
week they've added about, you know, ten to fifteen more
snaps to his mix. So I mean this week four
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he played seventy four percent last week. You can probably
bet somewhere along the line he's gonna be eighty five
ish percent of the defensive snaps.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Bud said, is their defense that. That's where I would
keep him at. How many did he get this past week?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yes, fifty one.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I would keep him around fifty one, maybe even fresh. Oh,
I'm you uh, And he's setting the edge. I saw
him one time, was in his four point stands over
the tackle got up because the tight end or slot
back came out a yard. He got over there. Man,
he shot edge and then he got on the dog
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off of the tackle, his shock edge.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm like, wow, is it? Why is he setting edge?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Mike can't supposed to be setting edge? I guess forty
eight million dollars making All right, let's do something. Let's
do something we haven't done.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Let's dedicate next segment to Micah since we haven't talked
about him since he since he departed. Let's just let's
get it out of our sit We not just Oh
that was that was a whole bra you know, let's talk.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
About you could Jesse, y'all, y'all can do it, man,
because I have a question. You've finish called this man
or come on, man, I have a question. I'm in
the sacks. It's too many sack.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
No, it's not about that. It's about morale and uh mentality.
The mental state of the defense when we come back.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And I'll tell y'all how I would play Michael if
I was getting ready to play against Michael. Okay, and
more and come back.
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I got a question. It's not it's not all that
kind of is on the field question. But since it's
Packer week and we can talk about Micah and we're
three games in and we see what this defense looks
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like so far, Look now go kill the defense. We'll
give it some time. I said six games. We got
three more games to go. I don't want to pile
on them, but we have seen these three games. When
you trade your best player, arguably the best player on
your team, does that mentally do something to you as
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a defensive unit, put you on notice and goes nobody safe?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But does it do something to the morale of the
defense that could have affected them these three games to
where it's like, I mean, you just got you just
got rid of our best guy.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Like has that affected this team or is that just
part of the business. And you know, because as a
fan base, you feel that as a defensive unit, you
got to be like you just took the biggest shot
we got as a secondary off the field and gave
him to another team.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Does that mess with you?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I don't know if I think there's two parts to that.
There's two parts to it.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I think part number one is when you lose a
player like that in a manner of what you lost
a player like that, guys realize, if they're honest with them,
we lost something major. And then the second part of it,
and this is this goes with the arrogance or confidence
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that is necessary to play in this league. Guys look
around and go, here's my opportunity to shine. And I
guess there's a third part of reality hits is where
you then begin to realize life ain't the same without
this dude around, because you know, guys like Osa and
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Sam and all the other guys, they're now realizing the
benefit that was afforded them because of the attention that
was given the MICA.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Because now the intention turns to you.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And before, when you were getting more singles or you know,
the gaps were a little bit wider.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
And and when you ran a game, the guy didn't
actually be able to get off to you and you
fell into a because they had to crunch down on
Mic ands they saw you late.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
That the quarterback gets off his because Mike gets around
that corner so quick. Yes, that quarterback's office spot now, michaeh.
You know, it's it's like if you have if you
have a hunt right, A lot of times when they hunt,
they'll send them. They'll send the fast dogs out there. First,
they'll send it, Hey, go get them, and then after
they get the running and chas and then they go, hey,
I'm musa, I'm gonna send the I'm gonna send the
bull terriers and I'm gonna send the.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
The ones that hold the dogo Argentinos out there.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
But I'm gonna chase them.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm gonna have these fast dogs, chase.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Them, wear them down, and then them halls run right
into that dog yeah, finish.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And that's what Michael would do.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
He would he would chase them right into you and
and guys would he would fall into four or five
six sacks because the attention was over there. So there's
there's a couple of stages that that are happening in there,
and then yeah, when you win, you go we don't
We didn't need him. But you know, it reminds me
when when Nate and that squad uh before they brought
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over Deon Sanders, right and the money that they were
gonna give him, and Jerry came in there was saying,
you know who's opposed of me paying this guy this
amount of money? Nobody said nothing, right, nobody raised their hand,
nothing like that, because they all like dog. You bring
him in here, life becomes a lot different for the
rest of us.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You you you gonna get Charles Haley, you get Deon Sanders.
Life different, Life different for for for for the Shark,
life different for Tony Kazi, is life different for Darren Woodson?
Like those type of things make your life a lot
easier because we know that that dude is going to
impact this game in such a way that it lessens
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what I have to do and it gives me more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
To go out there and shine.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
So that theory of manufacturing pressure sounds good right until.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You go use it in the practice. Now, this is
where it gets ugly. This is where it gets ugly
because there's only five premiere guys like that, I mean,
like Michael, Michael, It's only five of them out there,
So how do the other teams manufacture that? And this
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is where I hate to say, you got to get
better players. If I'm wrong, they got to prove it
to me. This is where you have to get better players.
Want to guys. I text the guys though, that me
and Jesse got into it last year. It wasn't me
and you, this me and somebody else got into another
(23:35):
one Isaiah in one Isaiah, we got into an argument
and they said ninety seven is just the guy, you know,
the guy for the Detroit Lions. He's just the guy.
He's not just you.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That was you and I that because I said, I
said he was I said he was all effort.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, I called him.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I called him death that random techne, Yeah, yeah, that
was that was you. And I I was like, I
don't really see nothing special about it, do He just
tries really hard.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This dude done broke his leg and come back off
of a broken leg and sat one of the most
gifted the quarterbacks in the league. And Lamar Jackson ever,
and we don't have that guy. See, there's four premier guys,
and then it's the effort guy. Who's our effort guy,
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who is our effort guy?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We don't have one.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know what, I agree with you one hundred because
there is that tier of yes, that is your Miles Garretts,
your Crosby's, your you know, Bosa before he got hurt, yes, Micah.
And then there's that next level of guys that you
put up there, and we had to go another We
gotta probably come down two more ranks before we put
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any of our guys in that category. And when you
don't have those guys in that category, what made guys
like Michael so special is they don't they don't need
a play call for them. They just gonna make a
play and sometimes they even go off script.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The defensive days. Right, just talent, just make a play.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
We don't have that.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
And when you don't have that across the board, right,
you don't have that anywhere across the board, not saying Williams,
not Marshawn Neeland, not James Houston, not Donovanezeraku, not Fowler.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Nowhere across that do you have that.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
And so when you talk about manufacturing, you need guys
to manufacture. You you need the players to go out
there to be able to manufacture this stuff, to manufacture
the pressure because.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The only way you.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
The only way you manufacture pressure is by sheer math.
Six is greater than five, seven is greater than six,
eight is greater than seven. Now, if I'm manufacturing pressure,
that means if there's five down offensive linemen, I gotta
(26:10):
send a six. That means there's five guys back in coverage. Right,
if there's six blockers and I gotta send seven, I
mean if we ain't holding up on the back end,
it won't matter. You're not manufacturing no pressure because the
ball is going to an open receiver down the field.
So in order to manufacture pressure, you gotta be able
(26:33):
to cover on the back end what the Cowboys haven't
been able to do. Can't cover on the back end,
can't manufacture pressure up front, can't manufacture pressure up front,
can't cover on the back end. Is why we're sitting
here right now looking at this defense, marching towards a
historically bad defense, because yeah, it's easy to get you
(26:54):
can say manufactured pressure, but you need dudes to do that.
I need dudes to be able to go out there
and do what you need to do. We don't have that,
all right, how would you deal with Micaeh?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I have to retake everything I said, because the NFL
is not built like that anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Take the fun, yeah, you take the fun.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
This one's on me if I'm taking the fun.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
If he and if in another thing, he negates a
lot of that because you don't know where he's gonna
line up old school football. I knew Reggie White was
gonna be over on my rights by my right tackle
ninety percent of the time when they went bar I
knew he was gonna be center ninety percent of the time.
Now Parsons against he moved around a lot against Washington,
(27:43):
he moved around a lot. He got the left guard,
even got something in Washington. Uh, but he played a
lot of right I think you know what I'm saying.
I'm going from my right. He played over that right
tackling guard a little bit, you know, so and then
they and then they moved him over to the left side.
So if you don't know where he's gonna be, it's
kind of hard to design wham plays, trap plays. Every
(28:05):
chance we would have got to put our hands on parsons,
we was gonna try to put our hands on what
about elbows, knees man? He followed, You know I can
say this now because it ain't nothing gonna happen. But
man if he if he the fella in front of me,
I'd have just lived with my knee right in his
chest out of somewhere that rib was hanging out, man,
(28:31):
to put the point out of the It wasn't gonna
be gonna soften him up. Once I put that on it.
He was, he was gonna look at me and I
I remember I got Lawrence one time. Lawrence said it
was the sweetest blow and I got his part. And
I can't think of his name that too. Uh No,
it was a defensive tackle, man, Pepa Johnson. When you
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hit those dudes just right, they look at you, and
that's your time to let them know where you and
you know because when you get that shot, then look
at you and I Lawrence not in here today. What
I'm telling him is you safer running the horn because
you ain't coming here today. You know what I'm saying.
But it was hard to do that with Reggie because
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they had so many great pass rushers Till you couldn't.
You wasn't getting no help, so you couldn't sell out
the Redgs be cause it're gonna be all day of
fat you're gonna be in churchy all day with him. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
So when these guys are practicing plays out here, do
they say, Okay, let's run this play with Micah is here,
Let's run it now with Micah.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's hard, that's hard to do.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
And they do that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
That's hard to do that. Now, you can always kind
of turn the protection, but you can kind of always
get the protection to him. I'm talking about a running play.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Sometimes you want to get a running play where you
can get where you can get on a guy, lean
a guy, push him cross the pile, or put some
extra on out. Yeah, a noseguard never no problem. He
ain't athletic moving outside of those guards. But Micah, you
can be in the lineup a perfect play you think
you got, I'll say, even show up on the field.
(30:08):
You know he taking a break.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
You know we've seen like he got criticized for some
of his run defense. Would you just run right at him?
So I have done that.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
So like even in the Cleveland game, they tried to
run at Micah as well. And you know, if we
talked to offense now or before or later, if I
was the OC, this is just if I was playing OC,
and I was playing against this team, my tight end room,
(30:36):
my tight end room would be so important because we
are going to be in a ton of twelve personnelity. Yes,
we're gonna be one back, two tight ends a large
majority of the game because I and I'm looking at
Brevin span Ford and I'm looking at Schoolmaker and I'm
looking at Ferd and I'm saying, you gotta sell out
(30:57):
this week. You gotta sell out this week, and you
gotta give me everything in this So it's it's to
the point now where if you know, whatever the side
like to say, if Mike is gonna line up primarily
on the offensive right hand side defensive left hand side, well,
when I break the huddle, the strength is going to
be to that side. Tighten is gonna be to that side,
(31:18):
and if if it's, if it's not, maybe I can
motion right. But talking about sliding the protection, if I
got I from sliding to protection right, slide the protection left,
that means.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm getting another guy out there.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I'm getting a tight end with my tackle and we're
gonna try to you know, position this thing where he
got either to run a super hump around the outside
or he's he's going back inside, and I'm on a
hip of my tackle trying to figure out, Hey, if
you go in, you gotta really sell him inside. You
gotta go get him inside because if he comes back,
I'm I'm hip to hip with you to make him
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have to run back into me or bounce even more outside.
That's how I would play. It would my offense would
be run for the twelve personnel this week. I'm sliding
the protection block.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I'm just tight end is hanging with the tackle
and I and I wish you Cleveland did at a
couple of times. I mean that that tight end I
mean punished him. I mean he was there with his
tackle and once they figured out where he was going,
then he went into his route. You can't take all
man like you might too fast for that, as Jerry
(32:22):
calling Michael's too fast.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
For because they have two really good rush ends.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
But but like I'm in twelve personnel, one back, too
tight end, two wide receivers as much as I can
possibly be because that's gonna give me a better chance
at protecting my quarterback and none, you know, even go
back and watch the Detroit Lions against the Ravens. A
lot of their big runs that twelve personnel, that two
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tight ends in there. You gotta get there, and you gotta,
you gotta get dirty with these jokers. You gotta you
gotta get in there and block them and hit them
and just lean on them and lean on them and
lean on them, because if they get to that position
where they're up and they could just pin their ears
back and now you gotta pass.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Mhmm, all right, Well next week, now, feeling good, let's
take a break. Yeah, let's go on to Let's spend
the last ten minutes of the show talking about Cowboys
offense or should we just cut that?
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Can we cut that down to two minutes this week?
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There's some opportunities, it is, Yes, it is.
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Let's get back to positive Jesse, anti hater Jesse when
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Speaker 1 (36:24):
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I went before the show, so I need to do
my scratch off. So while you guys are talking about
this Cowboys offense, so Jesse positive, Jesse, do we have
a shot of putting points up against this fast, coordinated, confident,
communicative defense that we're gonna face on Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
There's always a chance.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
There's always a shot, right, like this is football is
a is a a very funny lady, and she's not
loyal to anybody, all right, Like every week she could
show her allegiance to a different group of men, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
She can show love to a different group of men
every single week.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But those who prepare the best and who come to
play the best usually the one that you know, der
thee Diana goes to. But what the Cowboys have to do,
in my personal opinion, they gotta slow this game down.
They have to They have to make they have to
muck this up. They have to make this ugly. They
(37:39):
have to make this because what you don't want is
that that Green Bay offense is really explosive. That quarterback
is another one of these guys who can throw the
ball all over the park. They got a really good
running back in Josh Jacobs. They are down their right
tackle for this game. But I mean, hell, that doesn't
(37:59):
matter for us. We said the last.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
So I'm saying all that that the Cowboys offensively, you
gotta do. I said a little bit earlier. You got
to get in twelve personnel.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
You gotta you gotta go walk to that tight end
room and and you gotta tell Span forward and Luke
and and and ferg this is gonna be we we
win this game on the backs of you guys. This
has to be a game where the tight ends block
the very best that they've ever blocked.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You gotta you have to be willing to commit.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Wholeheartedly that you're going to help in the run game,
because what we gotta do is wear this defense down.
When you how you how do how you combat that
level of speed? Is that when we get to the
fourth quarter, their hands on it on their hips and
they're they're they're leaning over, and they they're they're they're
(38:57):
they're bent over and and they're trying to catch their
breath because it was just body blows after body blows
after body blows. That to me is the path you're
not getting explosive place. I don't think that's gonna be
a part of where you you're you're you know, you're
getting down the field and you're having these exposive plays.
You're looking for ways now maybe you get a special
(39:19):
team's touchdown or a big play in the special teams game.
They're just not giving up many big plays. So you
gotta slow it down. You gotta make this thing. You
you this is one of those games the score is
twelve nine and you win, you get you leave that
game and say job well done. This is not gonna
(39:40):
be one of those games where it's a thirty five
to thirty. This is this has to be bloody.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
This has to be a back alley, bare knuckle fight.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
What so do you just let the run game take
over from an offensive standpoint and you.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Still have it? You still have a short game, you
still have a short passing game. Yes, this is to
go along with Jesse.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You're going to.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Each quarter. You're looking to have you eight to nine runs.
Great runs, I mean a great run against them about
just four yards. You don't needati negative plays. I mean
we played Philadelphia, and we played them the second time
(40:30):
when we hit them twelve eleven sacks the first game
one of our goals was and y'all can laugh at us,
But second and ten was not bad. But second and
eleven was a killer at one yard. So I'm looking
at this game second and second and seven is not bad.
(40:54):
It gives you a chance to either run again or
throw a short pass. Gonna have to have one, and
it will not hurt to have in one of those
first two quarters to have your eight minute drive. So
you're just trying to stay out of harm's way and
stay out of yourself in the game, knowing that, hey,
they are passing, you want to keep them a little
(41:16):
bit guessing.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Because what happens in that like and you'll see out
throughout the course of the game. The more you get
in definite passing downs, the more you put yourself in harms.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yes, and number four in harms way, right, because.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
You're you're gonna see throughout that game, even like watching
the Cleveland game, watch other games like this, that moment
where they're this close to getting to flogo, like stripsack fumble,
they're that close, and they're like they're just And the
more you keep sitting, then the stacks start adding up.
Then things are adding the hitting your course, right, because
what also, and this is why it's also important to
to kind of keep the run game alive. To Nack's point,
(41:53):
I can't get in second and fifteen because I jumped
off sides. There will be holdings in this game. I'm
telling y'all right now, Tyler Goydon might have two or
three of them. I'm just telling you, and that's going
to be a killer when you got to look up
and you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
On this second and ten.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Some of them might be might be worth it, that
it might be.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
But when you look up and.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
It's second and fifteen, it's second and twenty because we held,
and that plays right into their hands because that's when
they'll they'll play a little little coverage and they'll they'll
let you run a little bit and then they'll say.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh, now we're the third down. Now it's third and nine,
third and eighth.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
And I used to know the word, and it's jests.
I'm quite sure you do. When they are rushing a
certain way in the safeties and corners of the planet.
Certain it's only one person you can throw that ball
to you They saying, we gonna let you throw it
right here, and the quarterback gonna have to throw it
because everything else is covered up. They telling you this
(42:57):
is the only thing open, like they did with tight
end is fast. Hey man, here he is. Here's gonna
eighty seven and we're gonna come from a tackle you
because second and anything more than ten, they gonna direct
where you throw that ball at. They gonna direct the
nine percent of the time where you throw that ball at.
Now I'm saying this because I guess I'm over sold
(43:21):
on CD. I don't know what Brother Pickings is gonna
do in a situation like this. Maybe I'm hoping he
shine like never before. I'm hoping Davonte shine like never before.
But this is gonna be a game where, like Jesse said,
you're gonna need two tight ends. That's willing to do
it on run rundowns and passing downs. And that's helped
(43:44):
with the blocking because if you if you're not, you
cannot turn fifty two are eleven? Especially eleven because if
he if he's like any other defensive players like I know,
they like to rush the passer. If they get a
sack early, your day is one. You put an extra
one on him? She said, eleven, he's one. Now, Well,
(44:07):
I hope you know, hope they don't get eleven set.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, but the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
But the Cowboys offensively, and this is the type of
game honestly, Like the Cowboys actually have.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
The perfect back for a game like this. Yes he does,
because Javonte is going.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
To break tackles like he's gonna He's one of those
backs is always gonna fall forward, that's always going to
get that that one extra yard and so as long
as you can give yourself an opportunity to run it
on first and second down, positively, Javonte is the kind of.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Back where he's he's delivering.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
The hit now granted, protect the ball because they are
the type of team. First guy there, hold you up, second, third, fourth,
fifth guy there are quick, they're punching there. They're trying
to create turnovers that way as well. But Javonte is
a back that will give you a chance to just
tenderize it all game long.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And that's what you want.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Like each one of your like you always hear the
saying that each drives in with the kick, punt, extra point,
or field goal. Like the Cowboys have to be in
that mindset. They can't have a bunch of three and outs.
They can't have a bunch of penalties. If you get
behind in the sticks, you're gonna be in for a
long day.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
Right now, they are rushing the ball on first and ten.
They rush the ball thirty nine percent of the time,
so a third of the time they're rushing it, two
thirds they're passing it. Do they need to make that
a little Do they need to rush more? And they
make it a little more even I.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Think I think so.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
I think so for this particular game because of the
way that they rush the passer. I think running the
ball for the Cowboys. And that's why I said twelve
personnel because I need double duce blocks and eight like
I need garden center, and I need I need tackling
tight end, I need to I need double duces, I
need all of that. Maybe this is one of the
games where we hey, we paid the full back seven
(45:55):
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Lift you come on, you know, and you know what
you can't do.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
You know, a lot of teams do a lot of
missdirection and that acquires for your guards and tackles a
lot of time to block down these dudes a little
bit too fast for that, you know. If anything, just
do a wound block where you just let it got free,
just smack him. But this blockdown block now, don't don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Clayton has done a really good job in designing room.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I could be wrong.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
This is one of those games where, boy, you need
you need the very best of from everybody. There's it's
very there's very very very very very slim room.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And then coach said. Coach said that it could be
some changes, you know on this, not for the offense,
but for the defense. And I'm just saying to myself,
is this the game too much?
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Ali Fellas, good stuff, Jesse, Nate, Chris, thanks for keeping
us on the air. Josh, thanks for keeping them. Company
back tomorrow with what Cowboys defense? Jordan Josh Jacobs?
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (47:16):
The running back Josh Jacobs?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
We need a defensive lineman to show up this week
and company tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
We got companies.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
No, I was saying, Josh Jacobs and company tomorrow talk
their offense, our defense, and who knows what else Tomorrow Thursday,
hanging with the boys, see you then we out.
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two Rashad Gary Rashon Garrett four point five sacks Football
leagues full points sacks.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But what I want to get to real quick like
is Kway Walker, h Edrin Cooper. This is the linebackers.
They are part of the rush package. They have a
They are very disciplined. They stay in their lanes. They
can cover fairly well. They never come off the field.
(02:40):
That that right there impressed me. They play a four
man front which consists of Carbrooks Uh, Deontae Watt, Davante
Davante Wattson bad Eyes Davante watts and and Parsons. And
I already tell you about Gary. These guys are very disciplined.
(03:04):
They play a four man front. They played a lot
of over against Cleveland, they played a little bit of
four man front depending on down the distance. Against Washington,
they're their linebackers will come up in the line and
fake like they're gonna they're gonna blitz. But when they
mainly come up into the office line. They finish run
some loan games, and what I call loan games is
(03:26):
tackle in in UH. They'll loop around to the outside
or they'll let them. They'll let them go into their
UH to to play to a power side. And what
I'm talking about that is they'll stunt the tackle in.
They'll stunt the N N and then they'll see where
it's a gap and they'll go right where that gap at.
They are very disciplined. They're they're like worker bees. Everybody
(03:54):
got their place and everybody know who they are.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
They play assignment alignment football, yes, sir, and they what
a concept.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well. I walked in before the show and I say,
you know what I And I told Jess. I said, Jesse,
the most the thing that this team that really stands
out to me is they play fast and they are disciplined.
Take it over, Jess.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
And when he said that, we both looked at each
other and I said, oh my god, Yeah, I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Say the same thing.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Every every phase of their defense, the front, the middle,
and the back end. They play very very fast, and
they're gonna give you a combination of different things. In
the back end, they're gonna play some Cover one, right,
and they're gonna they're gonna show one. Look a lot
of times they'll show two high safeties and then they'll
kind of you'll see as get close to the snap,
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they'll go on to Cover three. They'll play some Cover six.
So they'll play a multitude of coverages on the back
end to try to confuse the confuse the quarterback because
in the back of your mind, right as a quarterback, yes,
I'm looking and I'm checking for what the safety is
gonna do. But I'm also like, there's Rashaan Gary, there's
Michael Parsons, and so trying to put all that together.
(05:08):
Of all those got no safeties moving in late one
of those linebackers doing. Oh by the way, they have
these two guys coming off the edge, and you know
even the guys that back up Rashaan Gary.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
And and Lucas van Ness.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yes, so he was the starter, yes before Michael Parson's town.
So their their backup used to be their starter before
Michael came to town, and he's playing with this hair
on fire. Same thing for the guy Kobe Wooden. He's
also a backup, but when he comes in, he plays
like a starter. So these are the guys up front
when you're talking about, you know, stopping the run and
(05:44):
really defending the run.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
But this team plays with speed.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
And let me ask my dumb question for the day.
You got it, man, When you say they play fast,
are you're talking like physically they are physically fast or
do they scheme like they're just hair they.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
All of that, all of that, all of that like
when you watch them on film, like it sticks out
when you see him running around it is. It's not
like one dude who's really fast. You see ten eleven
dudes who are just true truth. Like they're all over
the place with speed, with direction, and it's not a wild,
out of control fast. It's we recognize what we want
to do. When the ball is snapped, we're too where
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we're supposed to be. If it's handed off, we're rally
to the football. If they're disguising coverages, guys are getting
back to the deep thirds. Your guys are buzzing down
into the you know, into the.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Box, so many multiple looks, so everything we.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Have not been they have.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
They are like that because.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
That was because as he's talking, like y'all are saying
they're super fast, Well, you know what, let you play
fast on defense, confidence you're doing, knowing what you're doing,
and communicating like and did coverage.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think I saw maybe one blown coverage and they
recovered so quick too, you didn't really know if it
was a blow.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
And the one thing that I think is going to
be difficult for the Cowboys, especially the Cowboys offensive line front,
with the addition of now having you gotta have TJ.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Bass into the mix.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
You gotta have you know, uh Kaufman having his second
week starting, and then you know Terrence still has been
struggling the way that he's been struggling. When they start
to do these these twists and these stunts on their
defensive line, when they do their tackle in stunts, they'll
and they do it in multiple ways, like like Nate
was talking about, where they'll loop that guy from the end.
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They'll loop them two gaps around. Now he's coming down,
so they'll go they'll have their their their two defensive
tackles and they're shooting like towards the outside. He'll wrap
all the way, wrap around, coming straight down the middle
of you know, of your offensive line. And that's for
Sean Gary, that's Michael Parsons. They'll just do a simple
tackle in twitch a twist.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and so like.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's always something that is coming towards you with a
different look.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
These guys.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But let me emphasize, now, let me emphasize, but they
have lane integrity. I'm telling you they would run their
games with quickness and speed. But if I supposed to
be in the A and you supposed to be in
the B, they gonna beat up because they are like
the old Minnesota Vikings. We're gonna get the runner on
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the way to the quarterback. So they stay in their
lanes just in case you run a draw, just in
case you try to run a funky screen or something.
They still in their lanes so they can react. I
just had a Nate moment.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
But it covers his eyes like a premonition when you're
saying that, and I'm sitting there thinking, all right, Cowboys
offensive line, left side, you've had some issues?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Why right?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You definitely had some issues.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Now you've got a new guarden there, you got a
new center. This ain't the game you want with quick
guys that are running, you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Know, Like.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
When I was watching it yesterday and from a from
a general manager perspective, right, like if you just if
you took a step back and you said, bring back
Kenny Pickett, take away Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Right, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm sorry I keep saying Kenny Picket, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Excuse wait a minute, Kenny Clark, Like just just rewind
rewind this to middle of August, and Kenny Clark is
still on the Packers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Micah is not on the Packers anymore. Still a damn
good defense.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I get an under like this is a damn good
defense without my you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, So,
like I'm looking at and like we already knew what
their office was, right, Lafleur in that offense was already
very explosive offense, and you know all of that nonsense
they had George Love and those receivers in that running
game and all that kind of stuff. The GM looked
at that said you want to get rid of that
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guy because he will be the missing piece that we
won on his defense.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
When you talk about one player away, when.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You talk about being a player away, like.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Without Michael Parsons, Van Ness and Kenny Clark, this defense
will still been absolutely fine.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Because Gary can rush the passer.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, fifty two, you got a guy backing up, backing
up Micah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Now that can start for thirty one other teams in
the league. Yes, at least for twenty eight of them.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, at least.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Might not start about but this is a guy who
was a starter.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
For them, right It was starting to find his way.
He was starting to find the.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
First first round pick.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
So like this was this is a guy who is
and so you look at it and you go. They
saw that and was like, this is a piece And
this is the thing that I talked about. And you
hear people talk about ramping up. This is what I'm
talking about. When I say all right, people like, oh,
well is gonna come in there, I'm like, glomm he
ain't done nothing in five six months. It's gonna take
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him a couple of weeks to get going. But a
guy like Micah, who they've kind of ramped up, is
kind of into that fourth week of the season going
like this is now where he's kind of like it's
settled in. They understand him, He understands the defense a
little bit better. His sea legs are there, the conditioning
is there, the confidence is there, and they're just flying around.
(11:29):
And so I get why the front office was like,
if they're gonna give up this piece, this is the
exact piece that we would need to take over to
have the depth that we want to have, the closer
that we want. And now, like I said, Rashan Gary
by himself, was more more than a good enough. He
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was more than good enough to doing what he was doing.
And now you look at man, they're you know, the
pressure rate is up the you know, Micah is second
in the league, and you know, and pressure is area
on top. Rashaun Gary is leading the league in uh
in sacks, and their defensive front is like top three
in rush defense, and so on and so forth. This
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defense and the offense gets all of the praise because
we're we're in the offensive league, we're in the passing league,
and George Love and all that kind of stuff. Well, boy,
this defense, this defense, and they'll play your man coverage.
They'll go cover one and play your man coverage back there,
and they were sticking to guys. And that's why I'm like,
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you know, this game without having Ceed Lamb, I would
have felt better with Ceedee Lamb because in those moments,
whether if they decided to go man to man coverage,
what ceed would be able to do.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
But this is a good group man, good.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Group per game. This per game fourteen point seven points
they have given up in this early season still early. Yes,
passing game they given him one hundred and sixty eight
yards Russian. They giving up sixty four three point two average.
They have three TV three TVs scoring on them. But
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they have ten sacks. They have ten sacks. They given
up two hundred and fifty three total yards per game
right now. Just it's early in the season. They may
wind up, you know, at the end of the season
being the worst defense in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Some stats from Kurt Rashaun Gary first in the NFL
and sacks with four and a half, Deavonte Wyatt among
the leaders in pressure, and then their linebacking corps. Cooper
and Walker are in Kurt's favorite website PFF they're both
in the top twenty five and McDuffie would be if
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he had enough snaps.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's a pretty good unit. Yeah, not bad. You had
Michael Parson to the mix. He's scar on top. Through
three weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
He's second in pressures behind Nick Benito in Denver with
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Micaeh has nineteen hmm. And he's first off in off sides.
If that was a stat and make it, folks jump
off side, he's first to that. He just breathed on
one tackle against Washington. He just breathed on him and
he jumped off side.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Like we're talking, let me takkout and talking about ramping
up from Michael Parsons. In week one, he played thirty snaps.
In week two, he played forty seven snaps sixty seven
percent of the defensive snaps. In week three he played
fifty one snaps seventy three point six percent of the
defensive snaps. When you're talking about that ramping up, every
week they've added about, you know, ten to fifteen more
snaps to his mix. So I mean this week four
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he played seventy four percent last week. You can probably
bet somewhere along the line he's gonna be eighty five
ish percent of the defensive snaps.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Bud said, is their defense that. That's where I would
keep him at. How many did he get this past week?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yes, fifty one.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I would keep him around fifty one, maybe even fresh. Oh,
I'm you uh, And he's setting the edge. I saw
him one time, was in his four point stands over
the tackle got up because the tight end or slot
back came out a yard. He got over there. Man,
he shot edge and then he got on the dog
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off of the tackle, his shock edge.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm like, wow, is it? Why is he setting edge?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Mike can't supposed to be setting edge? I guess forty
eight million dollars making All right, let's do something. Let's
do something we haven't done.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Let's dedicate next segment to Micah since we haven't talked
about him since he since he departed. Let's just let's
get it out of our sit We not just Oh
that was that was a whole bra you know, let's talk.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
About you could Jesse, y'all, y'all can do it, man,
because I have a question. You've finish called this man
or come on, man, I have a question. I'm in
the sacks. It's too many sack.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
No, it's not about that. It's about morale and uh mentality.
The mental state of the defense when we come back.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And I'll tell y'all how I would play Michael if
I was getting ready to play against Michael. Okay, and
more and come back.
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I got a question. It's not it's not all that
kind of is on the field question. But since it's
Packer week and we can talk about Micah and we're
three games in and we see what this defense looks
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like so far, Look now go kill the defense. We'll
give it some time. I said six games. We got
three more games to go. I don't want to pile
on them, but we have seen these three games. When
you trade your best player, arguably the best player on
your team, does that mentally do something to you as
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a defensive unit, put you on notice and goes nobody safe?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But does it do something to the morale of the
defense that could have affected them these three games to
where it's like, I mean, you just got you just
got rid of our best guy.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Like has that affected this team or is that just
part of the business. And you know, because as a
fan base, you feel that as a defensive unit, you
got to be like you just took the biggest shot
we got as a secondary off the field and gave
him to another team.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Does that mess with you?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I don't know if I think there's two parts to that.
There's two parts to it.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I think part number one is when you lose a
player like that in a manner of what you lost
a player like that, guys realize, if they're honest with them,
we lost something major. And then the second part of it,
and this is this goes with the arrogance or confidence
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that is necessary to play in this league. Guys look
around and go, here's my opportunity to shine. And I
guess there's a third part of reality hits is where
you then begin to realize life ain't the same without
this dude around, because you know, guys like Osa and
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Sam and all the other guys, they're now realizing the
benefit that was afforded them because of the attention that
was given the MICA.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Because now the intention turns to you.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And before, when you were getting more singles or you know,
the gaps were a little bit wider.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
And and when you ran a game, the guy didn't
actually be able to get off to you and you
fell into a because they had to crunch down on
Mic ands they saw you late.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
That the quarterback gets off his because Mike gets around
that corner so quick. Yes, that quarterback's office spot now, michaeh.
You know, it's it's like if you have if you
have a hunt right, A lot of times when they hunt,
they'll send them. They'll send the fast dogs out there. First,
they'll send it, Hey, go get them, and then after
they get the running and chas and then they go, hey,
I'm musa, I'm gonna send the I'm gonna send the
bull terriers and I'm gonna send the.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
The ones that hold the dogo Argentinos out there.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
But I'm gonna chase them.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm gonna have these fast dogs, chase.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Them, wear them down, and then them halls run right
into that dog yeah, finish.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And that's what Michael would do.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
He would he would chase them right into you and
and guys would he would fall into four or five
six sacks because the attention was over there. So there's
there's a couple of stages that that are happening in there,
and then yeah, when you win, you go we don't
We didn't need him. But you know, it reminds me
when when Nate and that squad uh before they brought
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over Deon Sanders, right and the money that they were
gonna give him, and Jerry came in there was saying,
you know who's opposed of me paying this guy this
amount of money? Nobody said nothing, right, nobody raised their hand,
nothing like that, because they all like dog. You bring
him in here, life becomes a lot different for the
rest of us.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You you you gonna get Charles Haley, you get Deon Sanders.
Life different, Life different for for for for the Shark,
life different for Tony Kazi, is life different for Darren Woodson?
Like those type of things make your life a lot
easier because we know that that dude is going to
impact this game in such a way that it lessens
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what I have to do and it gives me more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
To go out there and shine.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
So that theory of manufacturing pressure sounds good right until.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You go use it in the practice. Now, this is
where it gets ugly. This is where it gets ugly
because there's only five premiere guys like that, I mean,
like Michael, Michael, It's only five of them out there,
So how do the other teams manufacture that? And this
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is where I hate to say, you got to get
better players. If I'm wrong, they got to prove it
to me. This is where you have to get better players.
Want to guys. I text the guys though, that me
and Jesse got into it last year. It wasn't me
and you, this me and somebody else got into another
(23:35):
one Isaiah in one Isaiah, we got into an argument
and they said ninety seven is just the guy, you know,
the guy for the Detroit Lions. He's just the guy.
He's not just you.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That was you and I that because I said, I
said he was I said he was all effort.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, I called him.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I called him death that random techne, Yeah, yeah, that
was that was you. And I I was like, I
don't really see nothing special about it, do He just
tries really hard.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This dude done broke his leg and come back off
of a broken leg and sat one of the most
gifted the quarterbacks in the league. And Lamar Jackson ever,
and we don't have that guy. See, there's four premier guys,
and then it's the effort guy. Who's our effort guy,
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who is our effort guy?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We don't have one.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know what, I agree with you one hundred because
there is that tier of yes, that is your Miles Garretts,
your Crosby's, your you know, Bosa before he got hurt, yes, Micah.
And then there's that next level of guys that you
put up there, and we had to go another We
gotta probably come down two more ranks before we put
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any of our guys in that category. And when you
don't have those guys in that category, what made guys
like Michael so special is they don't they don't need
a play call for them. They just gonna make a
play and sometimes they even go off script.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The defensive days. Right, just talent, just make a play.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
We don't have that.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
And when you don't have that across the board, right,
you don't have that anywhere across the board, not saying Williams,
not Marshawn Neeland, not James Houston, not Donovanezeraku, not Fowler.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Nowhere across that do you have that.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
And so when you talk about manufacturing, you need guys
to manufacture. You you need the players to go out
there to be able to manufacture this stuff, to manufacture
the pressure because.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The only way you.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
The only way you manufacture pressure is by sheer math.
Six is greater than five, seven is greater than six,
eight is greater than seven. Now, if I'm manufacturing pressure,
that means if there's five down offensive linemen, I gotta
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send a six. That means there's five guys back in coverage. Right,
if there's six blockers and I gotta send seven, I
mean if we ain't holding up on the back end,
it won't matter. You're not manufacturing no pressure because the
ball is going to an open receiver down the field.
So in order to manufacture pressure, you gotta be able
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to cover on the back end what the Cowboys haven't
been able to do. Can't cover on the back end,
can't manufacture pressure up front, can't manufacture pressure up front,
can't cover on the back end. Is why we're sitting
here right now looking at this defense, marching towards a
historically bad defense, because yeah, it's easy to get you
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can say manufactured pressure, but you need dudes to do that.
I need dudes to be able to go out there
and do what you need to do. We don't have that,
all right, how would you deal with Micaeh?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I have to retake everything I said, because the NFL
is not built like that anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Take the fun, yeah, you take the fun.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
This one's on me if I'm taking the fun.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
If he and if in another thing, he negates a
lot of that because you don't know where he's gonna
line up old school football. I knew Reggie White was
gonna be over on my rights by my right tackle
ninety percent of the time when they went bar I
knew he was gonna be center ninety percent of the time.
Now Parsons against he moved around a lot against Washington,
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he moved around a lot. He got the left guard,
even got something in Washington. Uh, but he played a
lot of right I think you know what I'm saying.
I'm going from my right. He played over that right
tackling guard a little bit, you know, so and then
they and then they moved him over to the left side.
So if you don't know where he's gonna be, it's
kind of hard to design wham plays, trap plays. Every
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chance we would have got to put our hands on parsons,
we was gonna try to put our hands on what
about elbows, knees man? He followed, You know I can
say this now because it ain't nothing gonna happen. But
man if he if he the fella in front of me,
I'd have just lived with my knee right in his
chest out of somewhere that rib was hanging out, man,
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to put the point out of the It wasn't gonna
be gonna soften him up. Once I put that on it.
He was, he was gonna look at me and I
I remember I got Lawrence one time. Lawrence said it
was the sweetest blow and I got his part. And
I can't think of his name that too. Uh No,
it was a defensive tackle, man, Pepa Johnson. When you
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hit those dudes just right, they look at you, and
that's your time to let them know where you and
you know because when you get that shot, then look
at you and I Lawrence not in here today. What
I'm telling him is you safer running the horn because
you ain't coming here today. You know what I'm saying.
But it was hard to do that with Reggie because
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they had so many great pass rushers Till you couldn't.
You wasn't getting no help, so you couldn't sell out
the Redgs be cause it're gonna be all day of
fat you're gonna be in churchy all day with him. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
So when these guys are practicing plays out here, do
they say, Okay, let's run this play with Micah is here,
Let's run it now with Micah.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's hard, that's hard to do.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
And they do that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
That's hard to do that. Now, you can always kind
of turn the protection, but you can kind of always
get the protection to him. I'm talking about a running play.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Sometimes you want to get a running play where you
can get where you can get on a guy, lean
a guy, push him cross the pile, or put some
extra on out. Yeah, a noseguard never no problem. He
ain't athletic moving outside of those guards. But Micah, you
can be in the lineup a perfect play you think
you got, I'll say, even show up on the field.
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You know he taking a break.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
You know we've seen like he got criticized for some
of his run defense. Would you just run right at him?
So I have done that.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
So like even in the Cleveland game, they tried to
run at Micah as well. And you know, if we
talked to offense now or before or later, if I
was the OC, this is just if I was playing OC,
and I was playing against this team, my tight end room,
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my tight end room would be so important because we
are going to be in a ton of twelve personnelity. Yes,
we're gonna be one back, two tight ends a large
majority of the game because I and I'm looking at
Brevin span Ford and I'm looking at Schoolmaker and I'm
looking at Ferd and I'm saying, you gotta sell out
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this week. You gotta sell out this week, and you
gotta give me everything in this So it's it's to
the point now where if you know, whatever the side
like to say, if Mike is gonna line up primarily
on the offensive right hand side defensive left hand side, well,
when I break the huddle, the strength is going to
be to that side. Tighten is gonna be to that side,
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and if if it's, if it's not, maybe I can
motion right. But talking about sliding the protection, if I
got I from sliding to protection right, slide the protection left,
that means.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm getting another guy out there.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I'm getting a tight end with my tackle and we're
gonna try to you know, position this thing where he
got either to run a super hump around the outside
or he's he's going back inside, and I'm on a
hip of my tackle trying to figure out, Hey, if
you go in, you gotta really sell him inside. You
gotta go get him inside because if he comes back,
I'm I'm hip to hip with you to make him
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have to run back into me or bounce even more outside.
That's how I would play. It would my offense would
be run for the twelve personnel this week. I'm sliding
the protection block.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I'm just tight end is hanging with the tackle
and I and I wish you Cleveland did at a
couple of times. I mean that that tight end I
mean punished him. I mean he was there with his
tackle and once they figured out where he was going,
then he went into his route. You can't take all
man like you might too fast for that, as Jerry
(32:22):
calling Michael's too fast.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
For because they have two really good rush ends.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
But but like I'm in twelve personnel, one back, too
tight end, two wide receivers as much as I can
possibly be because that's gonna give me a better chance
at protecting my quarterback and none, you know, even go
back and watch the Detroit Lions against the Ravens. A
lot of their big runs that twelve personnel, that two
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tight ends in there. You gotta get there, and you gotta,
you gotta get dirty with these jokers. You gotta you
gotta get in there and block them and hit them
and just lean on them and lean on them and
lean on them, because if they get to that position
where they're up and they could just pin their ears
back and now you gotta pass.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Mhmm, all right, Well next week, now, feeling good, let's
take a break. Yeah, let's go on to Let's spend
the last ten minutes of the show talking about Cowboys
offense or should we just cut that?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Can we cut that down to two minutes this week?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
There's some opportunities, it is, Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Let's get back to positive Jesse, anti hater Jesse when
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Speaker 1 (36:24):
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I went before the show, so I need to do
my scratch off. So while you guys are talking about
this Cowboys offense, so Jesse positive, Jesse, do we have
a shot of putting points up against this fast, coordinated, confident,
communicative defense that we're gonna face on Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
There's always a chance.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
There's always a shot, right, like this is football is
a is a a very funny lady, and she's not
loyal to anybody, all right, Like every week she could
show her allegiance to a different group of men, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
She can show love to a different group of men
every single week.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But those who prepare the best and who come to
play the best usually the one that you know, der
thee Diana goes to. But what the Cowboys have to do,
in my personal opinion, they gotta slow this game down.
They have to They have to make they have to
muck this up. They have to make this ugly. They
(37:39):
have to make this because what you don't want is
that that Green Bay offense is really explosive. That quarterback
is another one of these guys who can throw the
ball all over the park. They got a really good
running back in Josh Jacobs. They are down their right
tackle for this game. But I mean, hell, that doesn't
(37:59):
matter for us. We said the last.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
So I'm saying all that that the Cowboys offensively, you
gotta do. I said a little bit earlier. You got
to get in twelve personnel.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
You gotta you gotta go walk to that tight end
room and and you gotta tell Span forward and Luke
and and and ferg this is gonna be we we
win this game on the backs of you guys. This
has to be a game where the tight ends block
the very best that they've ever blocked.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You gotta you have to be willing to commit.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Wholeheartedly that you're going to help in the run game,
because what we gotta do is wear this defense down.
When you how you how do how you combat that
level of speed? Is that when we get to the
fourth quarter, their hands on it on their hips and
they're they're they're leaning over, and they they're they're they're
(38:57):
they're bent over and and they're trying to catch their
breath because it was just body blows after body blows
after body blows. That to me is the path you're
not getting explosive place. I don't think that's gonna be
a part of where you you're you're you know, you're
getting down the field and you're having these exposive plays.
You're looking for ways now maybe you get a special
(39:19):
team's touchdown or a big play in the special teams game.
They're just not giving up many big plays. So you
gotta slow it down. You gotta make this thing. You
you this is one of those games the score is
twelve nine and you win, you get you leave that
game and say job well done. This is not gonna
(39:40):
be one of those games where it's a thirty five
to thirty. This is this has to be bloody.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
This has to be a back alley, bare knuckle fight.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
What so do you just let the run game take
over from an offensive standpoint and you.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Still have it? You still have a short game, you
still have a short passing game. Yes, this is to
go along with Jesse.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You're going to.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Each quarter. You're looking to have you eight to nine runs.
Great runs, I mean a great run against them about
just four yards. You don't needati negative plays. I mean
we played Philadelphia, and we played them the second time
(40:30):
when we hit them twelve eleven sacks the first game
one of our goals was and y'all can laugh at us,
But second and ten was not bad. But second and
eleven was a killer at one yard. So I'm looking
at this game second and second and seven is not bad.
(40:54):
It gives you a chance to either run again or
throw a short pass. Gonna have to have one, and
it will not hurt to have in one of those
first two quarters to have your eight minute drive. So
you're just trying to stay out of harm's way and
stay out of yourself in the game, knowing that, hey,
they are passing, you want to keep them a little
(41:16):
bit guessing.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Because what happens in that like and you'll see out
throughout the course of the game. The more you get
in definite passing downs, the more you put yourself in harms.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yes, and number four in harms way, right, because.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
You're you're gonna see throughout that game, even like watching
the Cleveland game, watch other games like this, that moment
where they're this close to getting to flogo, like stripsack fumble,
they're that close, and they're like they're just And the
more you keep sitting, then the stacks start adding up.
Then things are adding the hitting your course, right, because
what also, and this is why it's also important to
to kind of keep the run game alive. To Nack's point,
(41:53):
I can't get in second and fifteen because I jumped
off sides. There will be holdings in this game. I'm
telling y'all right now, Tyler Goydon might have two or
three of them. I'm just telling you, and that's going
to be a killer when you got to look up
and you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
On this second and ten.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Some of them might be might be worth it, that
it might be.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
But when you look up and.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
It's second and fifteen, it's second and twenty because we held,
and that plays right into their hands because that's when
they'll they'll play a little little coverage and they'll they'll
let you run a little bit and then they'll say.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh, now we're the third down. Now it's third and nine,
third and eighth.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
And I used to know the word, and it's jests.
I'm quite sure you do. When they are rushing a
certain way in the safeties and corners of the planet.
Certain it's only one person you can throw that ball
to you They saying, we gonna let you throw it
right here, and the quarterback gonna have to throw it
because everything else is covered up. They telling you this
(42:57):
is the only thing open, like they did with tight
end is fast. Hey man, here he is. Here's gonna
eighty seven and we're gonna come from a tackle you
because second and anything more than ten, they gonna direct
where you throw that ball at. They gonna direct the
nine percent of the time where you throw that ball at.
Now I'm saying this because I guess I'm over sold
(43:21):
on CD. I don't know what Brother Pickings is gonna
do in a situation like this. Maybe I'm hoping he
shine like never before. I'm hoping Davonte shine like never before.
But this is gonna be a game where, like Jesse said,
you're gonna need two tight ends. That's willing to do
it on run rundowns and passing downs. And that's helped
(43:44):
with the blocking because if you if you're not, you
cannot turn fifty two are eleven? Especially eleven because if
he if he's like any other defensive players like I know,
they like to rush the passer. If they get a
sack early, your day is one. You put an extra
one on him? She said, eleven, he's one. Now, Well,
(44:07):
I hope you know, hope they don't get eleven set.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, but the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
But the Cowboys offensively, and this is the type of
game honestly, Like the Cowboys actually have.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
The perfect back for a game like this. Yes he does,
because Javonte is going.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
To break tackles like he's gonna He's one of those
backs is always gonna fall forward, that's always going to
get that that one extra yard and so as long
as you can give yourself an opportunity to run it
on first and second down, positively, Javonte is the kind of.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Back where he's he's delivering.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
The hit now granted, protect the ball because they are
the type of team. First guy there, hold you up, second, third, fourth,
fifth guy there are quick, they're punching there. They're trying
to create turnovers that way as well. But Javonte is
a back that will give you a chance to just
tenderize it all game long.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And that's what you want.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Like each one of your like you always hear the
saying that each drives in with the kick, punt, extra point,
or field goal. Like the Cowboys have to be in
that mindset. They can't have a bunch of three and outs.
They can't have a bunch of penalties. If you get
behind in the sticks, you're gonna be in for a
long day.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
Right now, they are rushing the ball on first and ten.
They rush the ball thirty nine percent of the time,
so a third of the time they're rushing it, two
thirds they're passing it. Do they need to make that
a little Do they need to rush more? And they
make it a little more even I.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Think I think so.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
I think so for this particular game because of the
way that they rush the passer. I think running the
ball for the Cowboys. And that's why I said twelve
personnel because I need double duce blocks and eight like
I need garden center, and I need I need tackling
tight end, I need to I need double duces, I
need all of that. Maybe this is one of the
games where we hey, we paid the full back seven
(45:55):
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Lift you come on, you know, and you know what
you can't do.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
You know, a lot of teams do a lot of
missdirection and that acquires for your guards and tackles a
lot of time to block down these dudes a little
bit too fast for that, you know. If anything, just
do a wound block where you just let it got free,
just smack him. But this blockdown block now, don't don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Clayton has done a really good job in designing room.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I could be wrong.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
This is one of those games where, boy, you need
you need the very best of from everybody. There's it's
very there's very very very very very slim room.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And then coach said. Coach said that it could be
some changes, you know on this, not for the offense,
but for the defense. And I'm just saying to myself,
is this the game too much?
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Ali Fellas, good stuff, Jesse, Nate, Chris, thanks for keeping
us on the air. Josh, thanks for keeping them. Company
back tomorrow with what Cowboys defense? Jordan Josh Jacobs?
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (47:16):
The running back Josh Jacobs?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
We need a defensive lineman to show up this week
and company tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
We got companies.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
No, I was saying, Josh Jacobs and company tomorrow talk
their offense, our defense, and who knows what else Tomorrow Thursday,
hanging with the boys, see you then we out.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
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