October 23, 2025 • 48 mins
The Broncos offensive line is no joke. Can a Cowboys defensive front that’s struggled to stop the run at times match them pound for pound? And quarterback Bo Nix and Denver like the short game with a lot of rollouts and screens. Can Dallas keep him in check? Plus, tackling, double-teams and Nate's thoughts on shaking hands after the game.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 5 (01:33):
Guys. How are y'all today?
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Good?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Good, good man great?
Speaker 6 (01:38):
A little sleepy though it was raining on the way
up here.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
It rained on you.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yes, finally gets it, manute you realize how long it's
Vincent's we got a good rain. It's been months probably,
so weather's finally creeping in, getting football weather. Finally in
the end of October, the fair's coming gone.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
And we didn't even dip out of the High's in
the eighties. One of the numbers here, it's wild.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
You know I hate number ninety eight.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
All right, just jump right in.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Is that the little Is that the little guy, the
little three hundred pound guy?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
No, he talking about the guy from the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Oh man, I hate him.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Why do you hate him so much?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I hate Devens and lineman that can get out of
a position. I mean this dude, just body swider. Dude
missed him right way over here, went back attacking the
running back for no game.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Quit that out for leap.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So we talked a little bit about this before we
jump into the x's and o's teams. Always downplay going
to Denver in that altitude.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
But it's a real it's a real thing.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yes it is, And they remind you when you get
off the bus in Denver they have it painted on
the wall.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I have to look at my Chris, you remember what
it says. It's a mural where the buses park.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I'll look it up on my phone.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
I got a picture of it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
But they remind you, like, this is real right when
you go into the locker room.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
But why don't teams go up a day or two early.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
That's what I've always wondered.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
They say it's better to golds this same day and fight.
When you fight through it, you through it. You don't
want to go through it every day. Now, that's just
what I hear.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
Figured after a day they'd be more acclimented.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, because it always makes because you hear a lot
of fighters and a lot of like, especially UFC guys,
they go to Big Bear, California because the elevation is
so high.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So if you train at a higher.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Elevation, when you get to a lower elevation, you're it's
it's almost like running in one hundred and six degree
heat and then you go run inside and you're like,
I can.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Run twice as fast and twice as far.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Right, I've always wondered you think it's money. Probably hotels?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
I mean, what is it? What is it to book
out an entire hotel one hundred people for hundred food
for three meals a day? You know what I mean?
Transportation buses?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Right, but on that, But you know what, if it
helps you win a football game, it's.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
All worth it, right, Yeah, They're like, listen, figure it out.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
How big of a deal?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Did you ever? Did you?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Did you ever play it up in Denver or have
you been up there?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I've been, I mean I've not. I didn't play in
the NFL in Denver College.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
I did?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Okay, could you tell a difference? And Nate, you've played
up there?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Right? It's big NFL. Yeah, but you feel it?
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Man?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Did you feel it the whole game? Or was it
like Nate said, and you hit a wall and you
break through that and it's kind of adrenaline takes over. Man.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
So long ago, I know that when we got there,
you could feel like the your lungs burning, like you
know what I mean, trying to get the air up there.
So it probably happened initially, and then you probably didn't
think about it much after that, you know what I mean,
But it has it's for sure real.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, it's real.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
It's for sure real.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Because once you start playing, you'd be like, hey man
doing rush right now?
Speaker 6 (04:52):
All right?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, you got to go, Bro, you got to go.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And the question is, will Brandon Aubrey try a seventy
yardfield goal this week?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Because that ball does carry further?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Inde, I mean, he's he's easy, breezy from sixty one
sixty two.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
It's unbelievable. And he doesn't even swing his leg pard
that's the crazy part.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
So I wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
I mean, you think they should have given him a
shot at it. I mean their way up games, you know,
I think so. But there's this feeling that we can't
embarrass the other team.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
That Yeah, I don't know where that comes from, because
I want to embarrass the other team like they they
would embarrass us, right, teams would embarrass us. I mean,
look Troy, the trail that to day and camp like
teams trying to try to embarrass you. Now, like there
is no you know, you know, especially a division rival.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Who start who started all the good boy rules in
sports society, you know, because I can't cut kids now
and you can't tell.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Them they're not everybody gets a trophy.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Everybody gets a trophy now.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, because the dude told me yesterday, told me
Nate man, but y'all want a lot of games.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
I know you shook a lot of hand.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And he shook no hands, you know, And I said,
because we didn't start at three and thirteen, I ain't
shaking no hands.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
On fifteen you think I want to shake your hand,
you just brutally beat me. Come on, man, Nah, Like,
well that's not that's unspoting. Like I said, I don't
care what if my kid there, that's your kid problem.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
You know. It's certain you know what, y'all. I'm gonna
be honest with you. It's certain things.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Uh, don't ask me about it in front of your kids,
because that ain't my problem.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
That's your keeping, you know, I being.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I'll just tell y'all from experience. If your kids with
you and you see Nate, you're.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Going bout your bet just past.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, just you speak to me.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I'm gonna speak to you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But if I got somewhere to go, I'm not stopping
to talk to you and your kid. I'm sorry, I'm
not I got something to do. I'm important, just like
you're important. So your best bet is to, well, we'll
get my attention.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You will get ten more seconds if you say hanging
with well boys, Yeah, Dune, I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
A yo, catch man at fourth and Loan and.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
No, okay, so Twitter, your best bet is to is
to look at the tour schedule and book a tour.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
When we're you don't get in or we're.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Leaving, Nate will jump on a tour and tell you
all about one or two stops.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know what I like to hear when we're doing
with the guys doing the tour and the ladies doing
the tour is when they say, right here we did this,
and I look at my say this is ninety eight
right they say yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
I'm like, okay, so tell me what happened during the game.
You said you was there, we did.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Like I'm on that wall.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah yeah, but I'm just now, I'm not as mean
as I'm putting it. But when it comes to win
and losing, I was.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Not saying anymore, You're not as mean anymore.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
No, I'm not I'm not. You know what I'm saying
is when I played.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
For the Dallas Cowboys time when we lost on one
football games, I didn't want to shake hands, and I
went so far as to I went to coach Johnson.
I said, Coach Jones, I said, man, I don't like
shaking hands. And I said, especially if we done got
beat I don't want to shake hands.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
He said, Son, you can. You won't beat me to
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's all I need, he said. I only reason I
have to shake hands because the officer leads me to
the way the other coach at Other than that, I
don't want to shake your hand.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I said, thank you, coach. No, that's your the jersey thing.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But if that's your thing, why why do we have
to have a rule that I'm a bad person because
I don't shake hands. But then I give it to
all these charities and I'm a bad person. No what
I do as a living. When I played football, if
I didn't want to shake a hand, that don't make
me a bad player. You know, I just had other
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things on my mind. You just beat me up and
I don't want to shake your hand.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
That kind of all started to change though when you
were playing it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, that's when it was like literally like it was
changing as I was in the league because I was
a part of the team. We're in a wild tangent,
but we're here now. So this was like before the
Jersey swap. But remember too, Shark Choice went and got
Michael Vick to sign a glove for his nephew. Was
(09:45):
a huge Michael Vick fan, so he got Michael Vick
to sign the glove after the game, and you would
have thought that you lost, Yeah, we lost the game. Yeah,
but you would have thought, like to Shard had just
you know.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Asked him for a loan or so rob ten grocery
store people were like he was a bad dude, Like
how could you lose and go up to Michael Vick
and he just beat you and he was like the glove,
what's for my nephew?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Like, my nephew, you know, just made him. He's like,
you know, to charge from Atlanta. His family's from Atlanta.
So when Vic was at you know, the Dolphins, the Dolphins,
the falcons and all, it's like this from my nephew,
I'm getting something from my nephew. Was a huge back
of vic Fan and it was it was a big thing,
like for like a whole week he was on national
(10:30):
TV and everything.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Now now that's the thing to do.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Bro went to Georgia Tech in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, born and raised and went to Georgia Tech. Like
everything he is, he is so Atlanta, And so of
course he grew up in that, and his family grew
up against that in that you know, Michael vick era
in Atlanta, and so he got a glove side and
they were like no, like they was ready to like
pitchforks at the front lawn in the morning.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And the funny thing now about that whole situation, like
just around the he is, if you don't give your
jersey to someone else.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Everybody's like, why do you want to give his jersey?
You're a bad guy. Now you're a bad guy.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Bad guy.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I didn't get your jersey. No, I don't give you
this jersey, Like why not?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Crazes wild times.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know, I just believe that in this world where
you are able to thanks to our phones, we can
be somebody. Everybody that has a phone can be somebody.
So I've learned over time, I'm not gonna knock.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
What you do. That's your thing.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
If you're really not hurting anyone, why am I gonna
knock you.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I'm just not in this. Back in the day, I
did what I did.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I didn't make a big public thing up because I
knew people be like, oh, big news is a bad person.
So I didn't make a big public thing up. But
today somebody blasts me out of the water. But once again,
this one little simple thing I don't even care about,
you know.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And then some guys will do it where they won't
do it on the field. They'll be like, they'll tell
the equipment guys, hey, I'll send it over to you
because they don't want to.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
You know, what, are you smiling that Kurt I.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Pulled up this story about I didn't remember that story.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
About Oh it was huge.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yeah, it was just apologize it was.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That was one of that was one of the first.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think it was either right at the beginning of
social media, right before social media when you didn't see
things like that, and they caught it on camera because
it was right after the game on the field, and
then it was just like this huge.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Now they have it. Now they have it to where
because you know, all the jerseys are are are tailored
right and just and just by the way people. I
hope y'all if you have family in the National Football League,
in the NBA, and I don't know I should say
in the National Football League, those jerseys ain't free. They
charge us every single time that we give a jersey.
(13:01):
If that jersey that they gave us before the game
don't make it back to the bag, your check will
be short cheat next week for that jersey. So every
time y'all ask for a jersey, just know we don't
get discounts and we ain't getting them for free. They
charge us full price for And if your jersey has
to be altered, you're getting charged for that too. And
(13:22):
so what now more players do now is be cause
you get your jersey, whether it's the sleeves or whether
it's the side or the bottom, they'll have they'll go
in the beginning of the year, they'll say, give me
seventeen extras, but just regulars. I'm gonna keep this one
and then tell you know, Bucky or Mike Hey, extreme
(13:44):
all the one out and they'll sign that one and
give that one away so that they don't have to
keep getting the other one. I'll alter again and again
and again and again. So they'll just get you know,
the rich guys will get seventeen of them and say
for every game, I'm gonna give this one away to
a player, So this is eighteen. He's back there, you
know for some players and that you know, for the game.
They'll say, I'm giving this to my boy after the game,
(14:06):
so bring it out, you know, and to put it
in one of the sideline boxes.
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All right, let's talk a little football.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Dallas tied for seventh and miss tackles in PFF ranks
them twenty first in tackling, Jesse, you talked about last game.
They did a better job of tackling this is it
seems like a conversation every year. Is tackling a want
to thing or is it something you can practice? Because
it seems like certain coaches you've had on this team
(17:26):
have emphasized turnovers, punching the ball out, wrapping up tackling.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
So is that something you can practice?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And can you change it in the middle of a season.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Like you start a season off bag, can you change
your philosophy and get better?
Speaker 11 (17:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
No, it's not a philosophy, it's a want to. So
it's the players, ain't it ain't changing up. It's like doing.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
All of defense.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Make coaching philosophy like as in all emphasizing your.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
All coaches want you to tackle. All all coaches want
you to tackle because those guys that's talking about punching
that ball don't tackle, And let a couple of them
guys hit their head on the goal post, they won't
never ever again.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Go to it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's hard to explain. When you got a fundamentally sound
team that does this automatically, then you can hype the turnover,
the turnover, the turnover. dB coaches are big at the turnover.
They believe in that right there. But most defensive line coaches,
they are trying to tell you to tackle, get your
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technique down, fill your gap. Linebackers are tackling, and if
you coaching them any other way, you're gonna have a
lot of linebackers were blown out shoulders because they're gonna
be trying to hit, hit, half hit, and half punch
the ball out. Most coaches worth their salt teaching their
guys with their helmets to put that helmet on that ball.
(18:51):
Let that helmet help you dislodge that ball. But if
a god, you hit a guy head on, he stands
you up. You got him wrapped up. Now punch you
know you just going for a sack. Reach, grab, now
come chop if you if they teaching any other way,
all you're gonna have is a bad tacking the team
that's gonna don't be thirty one thirty two thirty.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
I would think at this point, all those guys know
how to tackle, like they know the fundamentals of it.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, yeah, knowing the fundamentals of it and actually wanting
to do it properly. That that's but that's the way
the coaching part comes at it, right, is we always
come in here and we say, either you're coaching it
or you're allowing it to happen. Yeah that's good or bad,
you know what I'm saying. But if you're if you're
not coaching the tackling principles, if you're not emphasizing that
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we need to be a better tackling team, then and
you could do drills for that to make sure that
it's it's an emphasis. You know, anything that you practice
enough becomes a habit. So it's it's creating and building
the habit of doing it right.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I guess as a non football player, it seems like
that tackling is a fundamental that you since pee wee football,
that you've practiced in there. There's nothing more satisfying as
a fan than to watch a defensive guy put his
head in somebody's chest, wrap up, pick them up off
(20:19):
the ground, and tackle properly. Why is a player, would you?
Why is that just not ingrained in you where it's
just instinctual where you just tackle the right way.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
A lot of times you're out of position, you're out
of control, yes, right, like you know, we jokingly and
I brought the story up here last year before he
got injured to Maarveon Overshawan he was a guy who
missed a lot of tackles. It wasn't that he was
unwilling to tackle, moving too fast, move it too fast,
And so he gets there and he wants to tackle,
and all of a sudden, now you're moving one hundred
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bars an hour when you go to throw yourself at
this defender and he moves a certain way, and now
you miss him, you know, And we talked about He
approached me in a lunchro and was like, I hear you,
big bro, And it's something like he wants to tack,
but it's the fundamentals of hey, break down, break tamp
your feet, break down, shoot your guns, wrap up, make
the tackle.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
So when you say it's a bad tackling team, that
doesn't necessarily mean that they're not wrapping up.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They're just no past guys. You're out of position, you're
not being where you're supposed like, I'll give you an example.
I don't know if he showed it here or not.
Sometimes my shows run together, but even against the Carolina Panthers,
there was a play where you see the safety coming
down and he is coming down in the alley. He
is supposed to be in six. He's coming down Donovan Wilson.
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He's in the alley he's supposed to be in and
he's like, he's looking like he's ready to tackle, and
for whatever reason in his mind, he just said I'm
gonna jump over here. He jumps over here when there's
a guy already standing there waiting to make the tackle,
and Rico goes right up in the whole way he
was supposed to be and he tries to reach back
and arm tackle Rico, and Rico just runs through the
arm tackle. That's a mistackle. It's not because he was
(21:56):
unwilling to tackle. He was out a position to tackle.
And so lot of times it's it's you being out
of position, and when you're out of position, the skill
level is just so great in this league now, and
athletes are so much They're so bigger, stronger and faster
than they've ever been. You're not armed tackling a guy,
You ain't sticking your arm out there, and all of
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a sudden you're strong enough to bring that guy down.
Are you're running through that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And get a hyper extended elbow, real quick elbow shoulder?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
You know what I'm saying, Donovan Wilson right now. He
dealing with elbow and shoulder stuff right now because not
being in a proper position to tackle guys when you
know how you're supposed to be tackled, are you supposed
to be tackling? So a lot of it again, it's
it's it's teaching the proper technique and how to do
it and then getting god in position to do it.
Now there's some guys who are unwilling to participate in tackling.
(22:46):
I won't say any names. There are a few good
there are a few dudes. And it's not just a
Cowboys thing. It's it's a it's disposition across the league.
A lot of dudes just aren't willing at that position.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I'm gonna throw a shoulder and if it didn't get
the job done, or well.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
You know what I mean, I'm just gonna throw my
head down at his ankles. If I clip them, my
clip of them. If I don't, I hope the Calvary
is on the way. So but yeah, you tackling a
lot of times you when you miss them, it's probably
because you're out of position.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Okay, Kurt, Yeah, go through your points two and three.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Well, I thought it was kind of interesting. I wanted
to get your guys. Take the Pro Football Focus does
the ranking of guys who get double teamed percentage wise,
and so the Cowboys they have three guys in the
top twenty, all their interior guys. Oh so Clark Thomas
among those guys getting double teamed more often the rank
in the top twenty. Then, conversely, when the guys on
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the edges. They have another with who's getting chipped the
most highest percentage of time. The highest for Cowboys is Houston,
He's at twenty third, Clowning is thirty eighth, Fowler's forty seventh.
As a rock, Who's fifty fourth. So what that tells
me is that teams aren't too worried about defensive.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Ends, especially when you're talking about chipping, because chipping is
a form when you are pass rushing. And what these
teams feel that they're confident enough to block our guys
one on one. But when you see when you the other,
now you take the other where you say the double.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Team, and that the inside guys.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That means that they don't even worry about our outside
guys because they're gonna move out inside guys and they
can move them with two and they gonna run that rock.
That means because the linebackers are not doing the job
because these guys are on top of them.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
And to add on to that, it's also you know,
you play the numbers game. Until last week, most of
the time they were rushing four men. Everyone's dropping back
in coverage. Well, simple map says tackle guard, center, guard,
tackle in tackle tackle in five each four. So when
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we line up, if you ain't bringing the extra guy nowhere,
our line is sorting through that and saying you got him,
you got him, we got him, you got him, you
got him. And so just a math alone. Just the
Cowboys weren't bringing enough dudes to make you have to
go single box. So there's always gonna be whether that
center of that guard you see, you know him him
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slamming down on that guy and then moving to the
second level, or just standing on that guy. And if
no other work comes, we're just gonna mal them. If
more work comes, I'll shoot off and I'll help somewhere else.
But if not, we're just going.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
It's the only way to improve on that is just
send more guys.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I guess you got to even the numbers up.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And you're talking about he's talking about the passing situation.
I'm talking about the running situation. Okay, Like I'm looking
at Denver's offensive line right now. They are they are
not coming off to no linebackers. They are letting running
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back dictate when they're gonna come off to the linebackers.
And they're doing this against Philly. They are moving, folks.
I think they had a hundred in.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Thirty yards or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
They are moving folks off the ball, and now your
linebacker's got to be very, very active, very almost anticipating
where that ball is going because their defensive line is
getting moved. And so I'm looking at our defensive line.
If you want to be effective this week, you're gonna
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have to hold round. You're gonna have the hold round
these I mean, they are moving. God, it's ugly. I
just showed Shannon when you was explained doing that great
job explaining when they took the guard. They took the
defensive tacking number ninety seven and shot him back on
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the linebacker. The guard took the defensive lineman and sot
him back on the linebacker single block. So, bruh, we're
gonna have to be on point. Number ninety five and
number ninety seven for the Dallas boys are gonna have
to be on point because these guys are good enough
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to single block you. And when they do just block you,
they are going to move you. So you're gonna have
to be on a tack. You cannot play catch this week.
You gotta be on the attack.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Speaking of their offensive line, PFF has Denver's O line
ranked second in the league. Bowles and what is it minn.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Princess Garrett Bowles is the left tackle and Alex uh Pulaskaki.
I probably got it all wrong the last name. But
Alex is the left guard. Uh, Wattenberg is Luke. Wattenberg
is the center, little spark plug Quinn Meisner Quinn yeah,
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he he right guard, and the right tackle is Mike mcclinsky.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Look at what is it?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Brother?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
What is it? Mcglensky, mcglinskey.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
These guys work together very very well. They gonna run
the ball. They they're not gonna give up on the run.
You you ain't gonna be at the end of the
game because they lost game saying hey, man, coach gave
up on the run. Uh uh uh your boy, Your
boy is coming downhill. They got a running back that
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is trying JK.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Dobbins. He's trying to gain ground.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
He was Ravens.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, and he ain't trying to fake y eye it.
He trying to get downhill.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
He ain't.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He ain't like our juggernaut where he's seeking, you know,
seeking some but.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
He ain't throwing a whole lot of moves.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
He's one foot once and that's been how Sean Payton
likes his back, excepting when he got that great running
back when he was with New Orleans. Yeah, dude, that
was just something different, you know. But this guy here
knows his job, knows what is what they expect from him,
and he does not uh let them down. Now, the
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wide receivers, I've seen a libit. They seem to me
like to be big play wide receivers, but I am
telling you they are. They are like a wave. Their
offensive line is like a wave coming off the rock.
And if you don't have a if you don't, first
down is big for them, and they gonna hit you
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on first down with some nice runs, some nice quick passes.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
But that is what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And once they get you your linebackers coming up, that's
when that that's when the young quarterback he starts going
to work.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
He's got eleven.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Tds, four interceptions, He can and will run the ball,
and he's feisty. He's all these dudes are arrogant. They
all Jesse Is, I'm wrong, You're right. All these dudes
are arrogant. They think they think like Sean Payton. If
you ever you ever met Sean Payton he got a
quiet calmness about him.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
But when he walks the way, you're going.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
To Sean Payton. Sean Payton is a douce bro, great
coach bro. He is Sean Payton.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
He's just like coach barselves.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Like he's he's very snarky, like that snarky, nasty you
should dude, like he knows that he's good. But he's
also like, will cuss you out. Man. When I was
at New England, we were doing a joint practice with
the Saints when he was in New Orleans. And when
I tell you he cussed, I mean he undressed Robert Meacham,
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who was their first round pick. But in front of everybody,
we waste this is what he's saying that Robert, we
wasted a first round pick on you. Every day, I
wish we would send you back to Tennessee. I'm like,
I mean, in front of everybody, I was like, oh,
I mean, he just was ripping dudes for two days straight.
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We just hear him ripping dudes just I mean, I'm
talking about dog cussing them, ripping them, and we're on
the opposite side, and I'm like him, like, if he
do that to a first round pick. What are you
going to the drafting? He might kick me off the
field for real.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And this will be the same dude that are being
a meeting defending that same dude he just cussed out.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
He learned from the best time. Bro, were you here
when he was here?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Bill Sean No, no, no, I kill the year after
he is.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He got a quiet confidence about it. He knows football.
He knows he knows football. And that's probably why he
ain't the coach here because he gonna cook his own
food and he gonna go to the grocery stroke and
get his own It ain't gonna be no group thing.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
It's his thing.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
All right.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Let's your last break.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
When we come back, we'll talk about that quarterback in Denver.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I'm gonna let you that, just say about it, because man,
I'm tired of bragging on you.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
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Speaker 5 (32:10):
You have built him up this week? Yeah, but I'm bad.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Good football team, all right, We'll be right back, hey,
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Speaker 6 (35:14):
Uh Matt Eberflus want to act that his press conference
said that Trayvon Diggs is still in concussion protocol. It
is Thursday. Oh, they got one more practice tomorrow and
then they traveled on Saturday. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what he hit his head on, but
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to be in a two week concussion two weeks you
put he probably he's probably gonna most likely if he
doesn't do it, he's not doing it again today, and
he won't probably do anything to wrong. It's probablynna miss
his second straight game with the concussion default. The rule
for you putting Christmas lights up.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
I'm really interested in this story.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
This thing is getting weird. Yeah, really, just kittings. And
when you give us nothing, you just open up the
door for recispect you.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
This is gonna be one of those things where we
hear something in a week or two and then two
or three years from now you hear what really.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Oh, I think. Let me not reconspect you here.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Look at you growing up.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You and Nate both this week have caught me, have
caught yourselves.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Yeah, the spirit is real in the building this week.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'll tell you what I ain't real. I'll tell you
what real. This offensive line for sor right, let's talk
about it.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Let's talk about it all right.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
So, Denver's among the league leaders in screen passes and
bo Nix has tied for fourth in completions with one
hundred and sixty, but it's thirtieth and yards.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Per completion at four point one.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
So he's stowing the ball getting the ball out quick, right, Yes,
a lot of screen.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Passes, a lot of underneath stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
With a lot of rollouts.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
We've had a lot of problems with all that stuff, right.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
A lot of rollouts. He is one of the highest
uh quarterbacks in the league with rollouts. I think only
Patrick Mahomes has more than him. And but he's not
completing many when he rolls out, As the great Lutercris
would say, roll out, I'll go with the other song
going to move.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
So uh.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
So he wants to get the ball on the perimeter
and both Nicks is slightly a good athlete, Like he's
slightly a good athlete. I'm not saying he's not Lamar
or Jayden. He's not not. Don't get me wrong, he's not.
But he's a good enough athlete that if he gets
outside the pocket that he'll tuck it and can get
some yards. But they use him a lot on rollouts,
and I know, and that also could be just me
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thinking as a player a young quarterback, trying to get
him to see the feel a certain way. If I
roll him out, I take away half of the field,
so his reads are only half field reads. And sometimes,
you know, having that type of situation can can limit
your opportunities for success in the passing in the percentage
of completion because you don't have the entire field to
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work with. Because of the amount of time that you
roll out, They're gonna take shots with Courtland Sutton, so
get ready. I was talking with Clarence Hill this morning
and I jokingly said to him, I said, who do
you think gets more who will get more defensive passing
the fair yards this game? Courtland Sutton or George Pickens,
And so he said Pickts. He just quickly Pickens. I said, well,
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I said, wow, you're really sure that He's like, yeah,
he goes to get it. To get a DPI, you
got to be in the vicinity. I said, it's a
good point. Said it's a good point. A lot of
times our dvs aren't in the vicinity to get DPIs
down the field for those shots.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And that's what that that that is to draw back
for defensive back. What Jesse is saying is because that's
the first thing I thought is when he break contained
or rolled out even from a past rush, the corner
cannot assume he's got to stay back there because he
hit that the other wide receiver Troy Franklin in the
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first few games. Because DB's fell off, we gotta stay back.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
So I mean, I'm kind of weak, yes.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
And that's the part about being man covered, and it's
what's gonna be something to keep your eye on during
this game. I do believe that part of what you
saw last week against the Washington Commanders from the Cowboys defensively,
I don't know what percentage there is a percentage that
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was we need to make a change. The other percentage
was they don't got nobody. We were worried about running
like running routes down the field. We're not worried about
Luke and chosen Robbie or chosen Anderson or Anderson chosen
whatever hell his name is now.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
And back to the practice squad.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Yeah, all other guys. So they felt like we should
be able to hold our own again. These guys man
the man, especially with a quarterback like Jaydon Daniels being
able to have more eyes on him. Now, I don't know.
I don't know if that's going to be the same
case at they did forty eight percent of the time
last week the Cowboys ran man coverage, So I don't
know if that it's going to be that high this weekend.
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Because they have their full complement of guys, They have
a better offensive line, they have a better a better
set of receivers that's going out there. So will I
will be keeping an eye on how does that look,
because when you're talking about rolling him out to Nick's point,
if you roll out, either your back is turned to
the quarterback or you fall off your receiver to try
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to come in corral the quarterback. Now he's throwing the
ball over your head and behind your head for big plays.
So it's going to be they should have a good mixture,
and like I said to you earlier, there won't be
for all from what I'm reading and hearing that, it
won't be Trayvon Diggs out there. So you're still gonna
have to go back out there again with uh Traquez
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or kir and Deron blank.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
Is something a good receiver? I mean, it seems like
he's never quite reached the yes.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
If there's a he's not, he's not no, no, no no.
If he's there's there's tiers.
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Even in the second one.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
He might be bottom into the second one, top into
the third one, but can't make enough place like you
know that to me, that that that first tier is.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I think that first tier is like three or four
and then.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Use and then you got what is it, the the
alpha tier, and then you got tier one, right yeah,
kind of like quarterbacks you got two or three and
then you got Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
So I think I think Courtland might fit in.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
That this quarterback is built for him because this quarterback
break is contained. Yes, and he got a connection with
this guy kind of like with Romo had to the
guy that we signed to Jacksonville who made all the
money and be found out he wasn't that.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
I'm still hurt by that. That was your touchdown money fifteen.
I was guaranteed I wouldn't be sitting here with you guys.
I still would I still sit here with you.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
Maybe not, You'll be more of a Sean Payton type guy.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
That's why the lord they gave me no money. That
is because he knew, he knew. I'm ready now, I
WAITTI I've ready.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I don't go out at night.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I wasn't ready then as much as I want, as
much as I wanted it.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
And.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
That's good stuff. That's good stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
I am ready. Now you want to sprinkle some millions
on your boy?
Speaker 5 (42:39):
How was your movie last night?
Speaker 6 (42:41):
It was fantastic, Yes it was.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Man, they mentioned that movie being out in the theaters
on the NBA broadcast last night, the Ass Game.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
Yeah it was. It was phenomenal. I went and I
got Even when I was driving there, I was like, man,
you know what I really want? I said, I want.
I want some of those pretzel nuggets, the little pretzel bytes.
I said, I want some of them pretzel bites, and
I want I want tom with the salt on it,
but I want to take the salt off I want
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to take the salt. I don't want them to come
with saltless.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
You want the flavor.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I want the remnants. I don't want. I don't want
the crunchy salt pellets the best part. And I walked
into the I walked to the canto and I saw it.
I said, Oh, this is gonna be perfect. That's gonna
be perfect.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
They sold out, No, I got them, Oh yeah, I
got them. What time was the movie?
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Seven thirty?
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Okay, so it wasn't too late.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
No, it wasn't too late, seven thirty. It was fantastic.
It was about it was probably about thirty thirty five
people in the theater. And I got those pretzel nuggets.
I got me some, got me some gummy candy, some
Jolly Rincher yummies.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
You just did it right. You said you went out public,
you stayed out after dark. You ate bad man.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
I just it was like I just was. I was
so happy, like you ever have that mother, when just
your your your your full, like your hardest, like my
heart was full. And I went there and I'm and
I'm watching the movie and I'm taking the lines and
I'm laughing. I don't even noticing things that I didn't
notice all the years that I watched it and hearing
other people laugh and enjoy it, and just like I said,
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I had, I had those pretzel nuggets I had, I
had a slushy. I just was like, I left, but
I left there just full. And I left there my
heart was just full. And then I drove home and
I just now I'm starting I realized when I was
driving home, and I'm getting old, and this is my
eyesight is perfectly fine.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
I have no problem.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
But I don't like driving that night as much anymore.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
I hate it.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
I'm like people like, oh, you can't see it. No,
I can see perfectly fine. People just drive crazy people
just I mean soos. I'm just like, where are you going?
Where are you going?
Speaker 7 (44:46):
I'm sitting here full and you just driving like, yeah,
my heardest.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I'm in a good place and you're ready.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
I'm trying to out I'm about.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Jerry Jones double birds. You out here, you know what
I'm saying. I'm like, but slow down, you know, because
when I'm driving home, you know, I put the I
put the I put the slow jams on. I'm in
no rush, no rush, I mean no rush. I just
was my heart was so full. I was like, you
know what, because I don't do much stuff for myself.
I do for a lot of others. I don't do
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much stuff specifically for me, designed.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
For me, and so but let me say this, rad
when you looked at this movie for the eighteen thousand times,
did you finally notice that his little brother was pretty
good actor?
Speaker 5 (45:29):
I did.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I swear, I said I lost that. I said little
mega he was. He was hitting them lines fingers, man,
I remember, and I was looking. I was like, boy,
I was like, boy, Vanity was something. Vanity was nice.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
Vanity.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I was like, who she was?
Speaker 7 (45:48):
Wasn't that Prince? I was, oh, yeah, yeah she was.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
She didn't playboy at one time when she what was she?
I think that's what I think. That's where I started
to turn.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
That's where you shot. I think.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Don't got me, boy. I was looking at her, man,
I was.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Like, oh, man, tell you man, like you know, she
was fine. She was Prince had that prince was one
of the prince. He has some beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
I'm five foot too, and just killing the game.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
Man.
Speaker 11 (46:18):
She was.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
She she give him bedroom minds and she was biting
the lip a little bit. I was like, I was like, oh,
Bruce Lee Roy, Bruce trying when Bruce came back to
the house and get a little medallion. She was trying
to give him something that night and he was like,
let's go.
Speaker 7 (46:35):
And then Bruce Lee Roy short but a cord looking woman.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Yeah, I'm looking at you.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh my god, man, one of them when you walk by,
she just snatched in the room.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I'm gonna have to go back and watch that. It's been.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
Don't I can't remember if I did it was.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
You were laugh You will laugh, man, because the little kid,
I'm telling you now, he him, Man, sure enough?
Speaker 6 (47:02):
Was it a movie there that I do? Hey, man,
won't you sit down to shut up? He said, why
don't I sit down? And what I said and even
that maybe loud because I was like, if he had
just told them to sit down, he might have just
set out. But when he said sit out and shut up,
he was like, why don't you come down here? Make
me like you don't hurt the baby, don't hurt them,
not the face. It was great. It was great, man,
(47:23):
it was absolutely. I wish I'm gonna be able to
look out now because I think it's a it's a
it's a can we say it's AMC. I think AMC
does that with us. They put more of the older movies.
They'll have like a Wednesday or early in the week.
They'll throw some of those old movies in there. I
would love for them to put back A Vampire in Brooklyn.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I watched just a little bit of it was so funny.
It's such an underrated movie. But I like certain things
like that. I would like to see school Days. I
like to see in the in the movie theater or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
Movies to me are like massages, like.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Don't worry, I'm not going come on to Sean No,
like when you like it's an ordeal to go, like
you gotta go, you gotta pay, gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Welcome to overtime. So we gotta get out of here.
We gotta go.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
I'll tell you what I mean by that. Yes, good stuff, man,
Glad you had a good night out. Nate, good seeing you, Kurt,
good stuff, Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air, Josh,
thanks for keeping the company. Come back tomorrow, predictions and
some phone calls on hanging with the boys.
Speaker 7 (48:23):
I ain't watching film.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
I'll tell you about that massage.
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Speaker 5 (01:33):
Guys. How are y'all today?
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Good?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Good, good man great?
Speaker 6 (01:38):
A little sleepy though it was raining on the way
up here.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
It rained on you.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yes, finally gets it, manute you realize how long it's
Vincent's we got a good rain. It's been months probably,
so weather's finally creeping in, getting football weather. Finally in
the end of October, the fair's coming gone.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
And we didn't even dip out of the High's in
the eighties. One of the numbers here, it's wild.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
You know I hate number ninety eight.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
All right, just jump right in.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Is that the little Is that the little guy, the
little three hundred pound guy?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
No, he talking about the guy from the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Oh man, I hate him.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Why do you hate him so much?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I hate Devens and lineman that can get out of
a position. I mean this dude, just body swider. Dude
missed him right way over here, went back attacking the
running back for no game.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Quit that out for leap.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So we talked a little bit about this before we
jump into the x's and o's teams. Always downplay going
to Denver in that altitude.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
But it's a real it's a real thing.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yes it is, And they remind you when you get
off the bus in Denver they have it painted on
the wall.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I have to look at my Chris, you remember what
it says. It's a mural where the buses park.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I'll look it up on my phone.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
I got a picture of it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
But they remind you, like, this is real right when
you go into the locker room.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
But why don't teams go up a day or two early.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
That's what I've always wondered.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
They say it's better to golds this same day and fight.
When you fight through it, you through it. You don't
want to go through it every day. Now, that's just
what I hear.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
Figured after a day they'd be more acclimented.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, because it always makes because you hear a lot
of fighters and a lot of like, especially UFC guys,
they go to Big Bear, California because the elevation is
so high.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So if you train at a higher.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Elevation, when you get to a lower elevation, you're it's
it's almost like running in one hundred and six degree
heat and then you go run inside and you're like,
I can.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Run twice as fast and twice as far.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Right, I've always wondered you think it's money. Probably hotels?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
I mean, what is it? What is it to book
out an entire hotel one hundred people for hundred food
for three meals a day? You know what I mean?
Transportation buses?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Right, but on that, But you know what, if it
helps you win a football game, it's.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
All worth it, right, Yeah, They're like, listen, figure it out.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
How big of a deal?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Did you ever? Did you?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Did you ever play it up in Denver or have
you been up there?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I've been, I mean I've not. I didn't play in
the NFL in Denver College.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
I did?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Okay, could you tell a difference? And Nate, you've played
up there?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Right? It's big NFL. Yeah, but you feel it?
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Man?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Did you feel it the whole game? Or was it
like Nate said, and you hit a wall and you
break through that and it's kind of adrenaline takes over. Man.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
So long ago, I know that when we got there,
you could feel like the your lungs burning, like you
know what I mean, trying to get the air up there.
So it probably happened initially, and then you probably didn't
think about it much after that, you know what I mean,
But it has it's for sure real.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, it's real.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
It's for sure real.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Because once you start playing, you'd be like, hey man
doing rush right now?
Speaker 6 (04:52):
All right?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, you got to go, Bro, you got to go.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And the question is, will Brandon Aubrey try a seventy
yardfield goal this week?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Because that ball does carry further?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Inde, I mean, he's he's easy, breezy from sixty one
sixty two.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
It's unbelievable. And he doesn't even swing his leg pard
that's the crazy part.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
So I wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
I mean, you think they should have given him a
shot at it. I mean their way up games, you know,
I think so. But there's this feeling that we can't
embarrass the other team.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
That Yeah, I don't know where that comes from, because
I want to embarrass the other team like they they
would embarrass us, right, teams would embarrass us. I mean,
look Troy, the trail that to day and camp like
teams trying to try to embarrass you. Now, like there
is no you know, you know, especially a division rival.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Who start who started all the good boy rules in
sports society, you know, because I can't cut kids now
and you can't tell.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Them they're not everybody gets a trophy.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Everybody gets a trophy now.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, because the dude told me yesterday, told me
Nate man, but y'all want a lot of games.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
I know you shook a lot of hand.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And he shook no hands, you know, And I said,
because we didn't start at three and thirteen, I ain't
shaking no hands.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
On fifteen you think I want to shake your hand,
you just brutally beat me. Come on, man, Nah, Like,
well that's not that's unspoting. Like I said, I don't
care what if my kid there, that's your kid problem.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
You know. It's certain you know what, y'all. I'm gonna
be honest with you. It's certain things.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Uh, don't ask me about it in front of your kids,
because that ain't my problem.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
That's your keeping, you know, I being.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I'll just tell y'all from experience. If your kids with
you and you see Nate, you're.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Going bout your bet just past.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, just you speak to me.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I'm gonna speak to you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But if I got somewhere to go, I'm not stopping
to talk to you and your kid. I'm sorry, I'm
not I got something to do. I'm important, just like
you're important. So your best bet is to, well, we'll
get my attention.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You will get ten more seconds if you say hanging
with well boys, Yeah, Dune, I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
A yo, catch man at fourth and Loan and.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
No, okay, so Twitter, your best bet is to is
to look at the tour schedule and book a tour.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
When we're you don't get in or we're.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Leaving, Nate will jump on a tour and tell you
all about one or two stops.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know what I like to hear when we're doing
with the guys doing the tour and the ladies doing
the tour is when they say, right here we did this,
and I look at my say this is ninety eight
right they say yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
I'm like, okay, so tell me what happened during the game.
You said you was there, we did.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Like I'm on that wall.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah yeah, but I'm just now, I'm not as mean
as I'm putting it. But when it comes to win
and losing, I was.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Not saying anymore, You're not as mean anymore.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
No, I'm not I'm not. You know what I'm saying
is when I played.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
For the Dallas Cowboys time when we lost on one
football games, I didn't want to shake hands, and I
went so far as to I went to coach Johnson.
I said, Coach Jones, I said, man, I don't like
shaking hands. And I said, especially if we done got
beat I don't want to shake hands.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
He said, Son, you can. You won't beat me to
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's all I need, he said. I only reason I
have to shake hands because the officer leads me to
the way the other coach at Other than that, I
don't want to shake your hand.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I said, thank you, coach. No, that's your the jersey thing.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But if that's your thing, why why do we have
to have a rule that I'm a bad person because
I don't shake hands. But then I give it to
all these charities and I'm a bad person. No what
I do as a living. When I played football, if
I didn't want to shake a hand, that don't make
me a bad player. You know, I just had other
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things on my mind. You just beat me up and
I don't want to shake your hand.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
That kind of all started to change though when you
were playing it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, that's when it was like literally like it was
changing as I was in the league because I was
a part of the team. We're in a wild tangent,
but we're here now. So this was like before the
Jersey swap. But remember too, Shark Choice went and got
Michael Vick to sign a glove for his nephew. Was
(09:45):
a huge Michael Vick fan, so he got Michael Vick
to sign the glove after the game, and you would
have thought that you lost, Yeah, we lost the game. Yeah,
but you would have thought, like to Shard had just
you know.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Asked him for a loan or so rob ten grocery
store people were like he was a bad dude, Like
how could you lose and go up to Michael Vick
and he just beat you and he was like the glove,
what's for my nephew?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Like, my nephew, you know, just made him. He's like,
you know, to charge from Atlanta. His family's from Atlanta.
So when Vic was at you know, the Dolphins, the Dolphins,
the falcons and all, it's like this from my nephew,
I'm getting something from my nephew. Was a huge back
of vic Fan and it was it was a big thing,
like for like a whole week he was on national
(10:30):
TV and everything.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Now now that's the thing to do.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Bro went to Georgia Tech in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, born and raised and went to Georgia Tech. Like
everything he is, he is so Atlanta, And so of
course he grew up in that, and his family grew
up against that in that you know, Michael vick era
in Atlanta, and so he got a glove side and
they were like no, like they was ready to like
pitchforks at the front lawn in the morning.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And the funny thing now about that whole situation, like
just around the he is, if you don't give your
jersey to someone else.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Everybody's like, why do you want to give his jersey?
You're a bad guy. Now you're a bad guy.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Bad guy.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I didn't get your jersey. No, I don't give you
this jersey, Like why not?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Crazes wild times.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know, I just believe that in this world where
you are able to thanks to our phones, we can
be somebody. Everybody that has a phone can be somebody.
So I've learned over time, I'm not gonna knock.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
What you do. That's your thing.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
If you're really not hurting anyone, why am I gonna
knock you.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I'm just not in this. Back in the day, I
did what I did.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I didn't make a big public thing up because I
knew people be like, oh, big news is a bad person.
So I didn't make a big public thing up. But
today somebody blasts me out of the water. But once again,
this one little simple thing I don't even care about,
you know.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And then some guys will do it where they won't
do it on the field. They'll be like, they'll tell
the equipment guys, hey, I'll send it over to you
because they don't want to.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
You know, what, are you smiling that Kurt I.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Pulled up this story about I didn't remember that story.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
About Oh it was huge.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yeah, it was just apologize it was.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That was one of that was one of the first.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think it was either right at the beginning of
social media, right before social media when you didn't see
things like that, and they caught it on camera because
it was right after the game on the field, and
then it was just like this huge.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Now they have it. Now they have it to where
because you know, all the jerseys are are are tailored
right and just and just by the way people. I
hope y'all if you have family in the National Football League,
in the NBA, and I don't know I should say
in the National Football League, those jerseys ain't free. They
charge us every single time that we give a jersey.
(13:01):
If that jersey that they gave us before the game
don't make it back to the bag, your check will
be short cheat next week for that jersey. So every
time y'all ask for a jersey, just know we don't
get discounts and we ain't getting them for free. They
charge us full price for And if your jersey has
to be altered, you're getting charged for that too. And
(13:22):
so what now more players do now is be cause
you get your jersey, whether it's the sleeves or whether
it's the side or the bottom, they'll have they'll go
in the beginning of the year, they'll say, give me
seventeen extras, but just regulars. I'm gonna keep this one
and then tell you know, Bucky or Mike Hey, extreme
(13:44):
all the one out and they'll sign that one and
give that one away so that they don't have to
keep getting the other one. I'll alter again and again
and again and again. So they'll just get you know,
the rich guys will get seventeen of them and say
for every game, I'm gonna give this one away to
a player, So this is eighteen. He's back there, you
know for some players and that you know, for the game.
They'll say, I'm giving this to my boy after the game,
(14:06):
so bring it out, you know, and to put it
in one of the sideline boxes.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
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All right, let's talk a little football.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Dallas tied for seventh and miss tackles in PFF ranks
them twenty first in tackling, Jesse, you talked about last game.
They did a better job of tackling this is it
seems like a conversation every year. Is tackling a want
to thing or is it something you can practice? Because
it seems like certain coaches you've had on this team
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have emphasized turnovers, punching the ball out, wrapping up tackling.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
So is that something you can practice?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And can you change it in the middle of a season.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Like you start a season off bag, can you change
your philosophy and get better?
Speaker 11 (17:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
No, it's not a philosophy, it's a want to. So
it's the players, ain't it ain't changing up. It's like doing.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
All of defense.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Make coaching philosophy like as in all emphasizing your.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
All coaches want you to tackle. All all coaches want
you to tackle because those guys that's talking about punching
that ball don't tackle, And let a couple of them
guys hit their head on the goal post, they won't
never ever again.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Go to it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's hard to explain. When you got a fundamentally sound
team that does this automatically, then you can hype the turnover,
the turnover, the turnover. dB coaches are big at the turnover.
They believe in that right there. But most defensive line coaches,
they are trying to tell you to tackle, get your
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technique down, fill your gap. Linebackers are tackling, and if
you coaching them any other way, you're gonna have a
lot of linebackers were blown out shoulders because they're gonna
be trying to hit, hit, half hit, and half punch
the ball out. Most coaches worth their salt teaching their
guys with their helmets to put that helmet on that ball.
(18:51):
Let that helmet help you dislodge that ball. But if
a god, you hit a guy head on, he stands
you up. You got him wrapped up. Now punch you
know you just going for a sack. Reach, grab, now
come chop if you if they teaching any other way,
all you're gonna have is a bad tacking the team
that's gonna don't be thirty one thirty two thirty.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
I would think at this point, all those guys know
how to tackle, like they know the fundamentals of it.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, yeah, knowing the fundamentals of it and actually wanting
to do it properly. That that's but that's the way
the coaching part comes at it, right, is we always
come in here and we say, either you're coaching it
or you're allowing it to happen. Yeah that's good or bad,
you know what I'm saying. But if you're if you're
not coaching the tackling principles, if you're not emphasizing that
(19:43):
we need to be a better tackling team, then and
you could do drills for that to make sure that
it's it's an emphasis. You know, anything that you practice
enough becomes a habit. So it's it's creating and building
the habit of doing it right.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I guess as a non football player, it seems like
that tackling is a fundamental that you since pee wee football,
that you've practiced in there. There's nothing more satisfying as
a fan than to watch a defensive guy put his
head in somebody's chest, wrap up, pick them up off
(20:19):
the ground, and tackle properly. Why is a player, would you?
Why is that just not ingrained in you where it's
just instinctual where you just tackle the right way.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
A lot of times you're out of position, you're out
of control, yes, right, like you know, we jokingly and
I brought the story up here last year before he
got injured to Maarveon Overshawan he was a guy who
missed a lot of tackles. It wasn't that he was
unwilling to tackle, moving too fast, move it too fast,
And so he gets there and he wants to tackle,
and all of a sudden, now you're moving one hundred
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bars an hour when you go to throw yourself at
this defender and he moves a certain way, and now
you miss him, you know, And we talked about He
approached me in a lunchro and was like, I hear you,
big bro, And it's something like he wants to tack,
but it's the fundamentals of hey, break down, break tamp
your feet, break down, shoot your guns, wrap up, make
the tackle.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
So when you say it's a bad tackling team, that
doesn't necessarily mean that they're not wrapping up.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They're just no past guys. You're out of position, you're
not being where you're supposed like, I'll give you an example.
I don't know if he showed it here or not.
Sometimes my shows run together, but even against the Carolina Panthers,
there was a play where you see the safety coming
down and he is coming down in the alley. He
is supposed to be in six. He's coming down Donovan Wilson.
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He's in the alley he's supposed to be in and
he's like, he's looking like he's ready to tackle, and
for whatever reason in his mind, he just said I'm
gonna jump over here. He jumps over here when there's
a guy already standing there waiting to make the tackle,
and Rico goes right up in the whole way he
was supposed to be and he tries to reach back
and arm tackle Rico, and Rico just runs through the
arm tackle. That's a mistackle. It's not because he was
(21:56):
unwilling to tackle. He was out a position to tackle.
And so lot of times it's it's you being out
of position, and when you're out of position, the skill
level is just so great in this league now, and
athletes are so much They're so bigger, stronger and faster
than they've ever been. You're not armed tackling a guy,
You ain't sticking your arm out there, and all of
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a sudden you're strong enough to bring that guy down.
Are you're running through that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And get a hyper extended elbow, real quick elbow shoulder?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
You know what I'm saying, Donovan Wilson right now. He
dealing with elbow and shoulder stuff right now because not
being in a proper position to tackle guys when you
know how you're supposed to be tackled, are you supposed
to be tackling? So a lot of it again, it's
it's it's teaching the proper technique and how to do
it and then getting god in position to do it.
Now there's some guys who are unwilling to participate in tackling.
(22:46):
I won't say any names. There are a few good
there are a few dudes. And it's not just a
Cowboys thing. It's it's a it's disposition across the league.
A lot of dudes just aren't willing at that position.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I'm gonna throw a shoulder and if it didn't get
the job done, or well.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
You know what I mean, I'm just gonna throw my
head down at his ankles. If I clip them, my
clip of them. If I don't, I hope the Calvary
is on the way. So but yeah, you tackling a
lot of times you when you miss them, it's probably
because you're out of position.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Okay, Kurt, Yeah, go through your points two and three.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Well, I thought it was kind of interesting. I wanted
to get your guys. Take the Pro Football Focus does
the ranking of guys who get double teamed percentage wise,
and so the Cowboys they have three guys in the
top twenty, all their interior guys. Oh so Clark Thomas
among those guys getting double teamed more often the rank
in the top twenty. Then, conversely, when the guys on
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the edges. They have another with who's getting chipped the
most highest percentage of time. The highest for Cowboys is Houston,
He's at twenty third, Clowning is thirty eighth, Fowler's forty seventh.
As a rock, Who's fifty fourth. So what that tells
me is that teams aren't too worried about defensive.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Ends, especially when you're talking about chipping, because chipping is
a form when you are pass rushing. And what these
teams feel that they're confident enough to block our guys
one on one. But when you see when you the other,
now you take the other where you say the double.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Team, and that the inside guys.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That means that they don't even worry about our outside
guys because they're gonna move out inside guys and they
can move them with two and they gonna run that rock.
That means because the linebackers are not doing the job
because these guys are on top of them.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
And to add on to that, it's also you know,
you play the numbers game. Until last week, most of
the time they were rushing four men. Everyone's dropping back
in coverage. Well, simple map says tackle guard, center, guard,
tackle in tackle tackle in five each four. So when
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we line up, if you ain't bringing the extra guy nowhere,
our line is sorting through that and saying you got him,
you got him, we got him, you got him, you
got him. And so just a math alone. Just the
Cowboys weren't bringing enough dudes to make you have to
go single box. So there's always gonna be whether that
center of that guard you see, you know him him
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slamming down on that guy and then moving to the
second level, or just standing on that guy. And if
no other work comes, we're just gonna mal them. If
more work comes, I'll shoot off and I'll help somewhere else.
But if not, we're just going.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
It's the only way to improve on that is just
send more guys.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I guess you got to even the numbers up.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And you're talking about he's talking about the passing situation.
I'm talking about the running situation. Okay, Like I'm looking
at Denver's offensive line right now. They are they are
not coming off to no linebackers. They are letting running
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back dictate when they're gonna come off to the linebackers.
And they're doing this against Philly. They are moving, folks.
I think they had a hundred in.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Thirty yards or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
They are moving folks off the ball, and now your
linebacker's got to be very, very active, very almost anticipating
where that ball is going because their defensive line is
getting moved. And so I'm looking at our defensive line.
If you want to be effective this week, you're gonna
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have to hold round. You're gonna have the hold round
these I mean, they are moving. God, it's ugly. I
just showed Shannon when you was explained doing that great
job explaining when they took the guard. They took the
defensive tacking number ninety seven and shot him back on
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the linebacker. The guard took the defensive lineman and sot
him back on the linebacker single block. So, bruh, we're
gonna have to be on point. Number ninety five and
number ninety seven for the Dallas boys are gonna have
to be on point because these guys are good enough
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to single block you. And when they do just block you,
they are going to move you. So you're gonna have
to be on a tack. You cannot play catch this week.
You gotta be on the attack.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Speaking of their offensive line, PFF has Denver's O line
ranked second in the league. Bowles and what is it minn.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Princess Garrett Bowles is the left tackle and Alex uh Pulaskaki.
I probably got it all wrong the last name. But
Alex is the left guard. Uh, Wattenberg is Luke. Wattenberg
is the center, little spark plug Quinn Meisner Quinn yeah,
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he he right guard, and the right tackle is Mike mcclinsky.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Look at what is it?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Brother?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
What is it? Mcglensky, mcglinskey.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
These guys work together very very well. They gonna run
the ball. They they're not gonna give up on the run.
You you ain't gonna be at the end of the
game because they lost game saying hey, man, coach gave
up on the run. Uh uh uh your boy, Your
boy is coming downhill. They got a running back that
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is trying JK.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Dobbins. He's trying to gain ground.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
He was Ravens.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, and he ain't trying to fake y eye it.
He trying to get downhill.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
He ain't.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He ain't like our juggernaut where he's seeking, you know,
seeking some but.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
He ain't throwing a whole lot of moves.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
He's one foot once and that's been how Sean Payton
likes his back, excepting when he got that great running
back when he was with New Orleans. Yeah, dude, that
was just something different, you know. But this guy here
knows his job, knows what is what they expect from him,
and he does not uh let them down. Now, the
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wide receivers, I've seen a libit. They seem to me
like to be big play wide receivers, but I am
telling you they are. They are like a wave. Their
offensive line is like a wave coming off the rock.
And if you don't have a if you don't, first
down is big for them, and they gonna hit you
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on first down with some nice runs, some nice quick passes.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
But that is what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And once they get you your linebackers coming up, that's
when that that's when the young quarterback he starts going
to work.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
He's got eleven.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Tds, four interceptions, He can and will run the ball,
and he's feisty. He's all these dudes are arrogant. They
all Jesse Is, I'm wrong, You're right. All these dudes
are arrogant. They think they think like Sean Payton. If
you ever you ever met Sean Payton he got a
quiet calmness about him.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
But when he walks the way, you're going.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
To Sean Payton. Sean Payton is a douce bro, great
coach bro. He is Sean Payton.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
He's just like coach barselves.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Like he's he's very snarky, like that snarky, nasty you
should dude, like he knows that he's good. But he's
also like, will cuss you out. Man. When I was
at New England, we were doing a joint practice with
the Saints when he was in New Orleans. And when
I tell you he cussed, I mean he undressed Robert Meacham,
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who was their first round pick. But in front of everybody,
we waste this is what he's saying that Robert, we
wasted a first round pick on you. Every day, I
wish we would send you back to Tennessee. I'm like,
I mean, in front of everybody, I was like, oh,
I mean, he just was ripping dudes for two days straight.
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We just hear him ripping dudes just I mean, I'm
talking about dog cussing them, ripping them, and we're on
the opposite side, and I'm like him, like, if he
do that to a first round pick. What are you
going to the drafting? He might kick me off the
field for real.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And this will be the same dude that are being
a meeting defending that same dude he just cussed out.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
He learned from the best time. Bro, were you here
when he was here?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Bill Sean No, no, no, I kill the year after
he is.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He got a quiet confidence about it. He knows football.
He knows he knows football. And that's probably why he
ain't the coach here because he gonna cook his own
food and he gonna go to the grocery stroke and
get his own It ain't gonna be no group thing.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
It's his thing.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
All right.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Let's your last break.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
When we come back, we'll talk about that quarterback in Denver.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I'm gonna let you that, just say about it, because man,
I'm tired of bragging on you.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
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Speaker 5 (32:10):
You have built him up this week? Yeah, but I'm bad.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Good football team, all right, We'll be right back, hey,
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Speaker 6 (35:14):
Uh Matt Eberflus want to act that his press conference
said that Trayvon Diggs is still in concussion protocol. It
is Thursday. Oh, they got one more practice tomorrow and
then they traveled on Saturday. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what he hit his head on, but
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to be in a two week concussion two weeks you
put he probably he's probably gonna most likely if he
doesn't do it, he's not doing it again today, and
he won't probably do anything to wrong. It's probablynna miss
his second straight game with the concussion default. The rule
for you putting Christmas lights up.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
I'm really interested in this story.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
This thing is getting weird. Yeah, really, just kittings. And
when you give us nothing, you just open up the
door for recispect you.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
This is gonna be one of those things where we
hear something in a week or two and then two
or three years from now you hear what really.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Oh, I think. Let me not reconspect you here.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Look at you growing up.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You and Nate both this week have caught me, have
caught yourselves.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Yeah, the spirit is real in the building this week.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'll tell you what I ain't real. I'll tell you
what real. This offensive line for sor right, let's talk
about it.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Let's talk about it all right.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
So, Denver's among the league leaders in screen passes and
bo Nix has tied for fourth in completions with one
hundred and sixty, but it's thirtieth and yards.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Per completion at four point one.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
So he's stowing the ball getting the ball out quick, right, Yes,
a lot of screen.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Passes, a lot of underneath stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
With a lot of rollouts.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
We've had a lot of problems with all that stuff, right.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
A lot of rollouts. He is one of the highest
uh quarterbacks in the league with rollouts. I think only
Patrick Mahomes has more than him. And but he's not
completing many when he rolls out, As the great Lutercris
would say, roll out, I'll go with the other song
going to move.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
So uh.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
So he wants to get the ball on the perimeter
and both Nicks is slightly a good athlete, Like he's
slightly a good athlete. I'm not saying he's not Lamar
or Jayden. He's not not. Don't get me wrong, he's not.
But he's a good enough athlete that if he gets
outside the pocket that he'll tuck it and can get
some yards. But they use him a lot on rollouts,
and I know, and that also could be just me
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thinking as a player a young quarterback, trying to get
him to see the feel a certain way. If I
roll him out, I take away half of the field,
so his reads are only half field reads. And sometimes,
you know, having that type of situation can can limit
your opportunities for success in the passing in the percentage
of completion because you don't have the entire field to
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work with. Because of the amount of time that you
roll out, They're gonna take shots with Courtland Sutton, so
get ready. I was talking with Clarence Hill this morning
and I jokingly said to him, I said, who do
you think gets more who will get more defensive passing
the fair yards this game? Courtland Sutton or George Pickens,
And so he said Pickts. He just quickly Pickens. I said, well,
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I said, wow, you're really sure that He's like, yeah,
he goes to get it. To get a DPI, you
got to be in the vicinity. I said, it's a
good point. Said it's a good point. A lot of
times our dvs aren't in the vicinity to get DPIs
down the field for those shots.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And that's what that that that is to draw back
for defensive back. What Jesse is saying is because that's
the first thing I thought is when he break contained
or rolled out even from a past rush, the corner
cannot assume he's got to stay back there because he
hit that the other wide receiver Troy Franklin in the
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first few games. Because DB's fell off, we gotta stay back.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
So I mean, I'm kind of weak, yes.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
And that's the part about being man covered, and it's
what's gonna be something to keep your eye on during
this game. I do believe that part of what you
saw last week against the Washington Commanders from the Cowboys defensively,
I don't know what percentage there is a percentage that
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was we need to make a change. The other percentage
was they don't got nobody. We were worried about running
like running routes down the field. We're not worried about
Luke and chosen Robbie or chosen Anderson or Anderson chosen
whatever hell his name is now.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
And back to the practice squad.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Yeah, all other guys. So they felt like we should
be able to hold our own again. These guys man
the man, especially with a quarterback like Jaydon Daniels being
able to have more eyes on him. Now, I don't know.
I don't know if that's going to be the same
case at they did forty eight percent of the time
last week the Cowboys ran man coverage, So I don't
know if that it's going to be that high this weekend.
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Because they have their full complement of guys, They have
a better offensive line, they have a better a better
set of receivers that's going out there. So will I
will be keeping an eye on how does that look,
because when you're talking about rolling him out to Nick's point,
if you roll out, either your back is turned to
the quarterback or you fall off your receiver to try
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to come in corral the quarterback. Now he's throwing the
ball over your head and behind your head for big plays.
So it's going to be they should have a good mixture,
and like I said to you earlier, there won't be
for all from what I'm reading and hearing that, it
won't be Trayvon Diggs out there. So you're still gonna
have to go back out there again with uh Traquez
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or kir and Deron blank.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
Is something a good receiver? I mean, it seems like
he's never quite reached the yes.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
If there's a he's not, he's not no, no, no no.
If he's there's there's tiers.
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Even in the second one.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
He might be bottom into the second one, top into
the third one, but can't make enough place like you
know that to me, that that that first tier is.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I think that first tier is like three or four
and then.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Use and then you got what is it, the the
alpha tier, and then you got tier one, right yeah,
kind of like quarterbacks you got two or three and
then you got Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
So I think I think Courtland might fit in.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
That this quarterback is built for him because this quarterback
break is contained. Yes, and he got a connection with
this guy kind of like with Romo had to the
guy that we signed to Jacksonville who made all the
money and be found out he wasn't that.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
I'm still hurt by that. That was your touchdown money fifteen.
I was guaranteed I wouldn't be sitting here with you guys.
I still would I still sit here with you.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
Maybe not, You'll be more of a Sean Payton type guy.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
That's why the lord they gave me no money. That
is because he knew, he knew. I'm ready now, I
WAITTI I've ready.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I don't go out at night.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I wasn't ready then as much as I want, as
much as I wanted it.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
And.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
That's good stuff. That's good stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
I am ready. Now you want to sprinkle some millions
on your boy?
Speaker 5 (42:39):
How was your movie last night?
Speaker 6 (42:41):
It was fantastic, Yes it was.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Man, they mentioned that movie being out in the theaters
on the NBA broadcast last night, the Ass Game.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
Yeah it was. It was phenomenal. I went and I
got Even when I was driving there, I was like, man,
you know what I really want? I said, I want.
I want some of those pretzel nuggets, the little pretzel bytes.
I said, I want some of them pretzel bites, and
I want I want tom with the salt on it,
but I want to take the salt off I want
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to take the salt. I don't want them to come
with saltless.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
You want the flavor.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I want the remnants. I don't want. I don't want
the crunchy salt pellets the best part. And I walked
into the I walked to the canto and I saw it.
I said, Oh, this is gonna be perfect. That's gonna
be perfect.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
They sold out, No, I got them, Oh yeah, I
got them. What time was the movie?
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Seven thirty?
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Okay, so it wasn't too late.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
No, it wasn't too late, seven thirty. It was fantastic.
It was about it was probably about thirty thirty five
people in the theater. And I got those pretzel nuggets.
I got me some, got me some gummy candy, some
Jolly Rincher yummies.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
You just did it right. You said you went out public,
you stayed out after dark. You ate bad man.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
I just it was like I just was. I was
so happy, like you ever have that mother, when just
your your your your full, like your hardest, like my
heart was full. And I went there and I'm and
I'm watching the movie and I'm taking the lines and
I'm laughing. I don't even noticing things that I didn't
notice all the years that I watched it and hearing
other people laugh and enjoy it, and just like I said,
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I had, I had those pretzel nuggets I had, I
had a slushy. I just was like, I left, but
I left there just full. And I left there my
heart was just full. And then I drove home and
I just now I'm starting I realized when I was
driving home, and I'm getting old, and this is my
eyesight is perfectly fine.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
I have no problem.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
But I don't like driving that night as much anymore.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
I hate it.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
I'm like people like, oh, you can't see it. No,
I can see perfectly fine. People just drive crazy people
just I mean soos. I'm just like, where are you going?
Where are you going?
Speaker 7 (44:46):
I'm sitting here full and you just driving like, yeah,
my heardest.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I'm in a good place and you're ready.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
I'm trying to out I'm about.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Jerry Jones double birds. You out here, you know what
I'm saying. I'm like, but slow down, you know, because
when I'm driving home, you know, I put the I
put the I put the slow jams on. I'm in
no rush, no rush, I mean no rush. I just
was my heart was so full. I was like, you
know what, because I don't do much stuff for myself.
I do for a lot of others. I don't do
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much stuff specifically for me, designed.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
For me, and so but let me say this, rad
when you looked at this movie for the eighteen thousand times,
did you finally notice that his little brother was pretty
good actor?
Speaker 5 (45:29):
I did.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I swear, I said I lost that. I said little
mega he was. He was hitting them lines fingers, man,
I remember, and I was looking. I was like, boy,
I was like, boy, Vanity was something. Vanity was nice.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
Vanity.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I was like, who she was?
Speaker 7 (45:48):
Wasn't that Prince? I was, oh, yeah, yeah she was.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
She didn't playboy at one time when she what was she?
I think that's what I think. That's where I started
to turn.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
That's where you shot. I think.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Don't got me, boy. I was looking at her, man,
I was.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Like, oh, man, tell you man, like you know, she
was fine. She was Prince had that prince was one
of the prince. He has some beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
I'm five foot too, and just killing the game.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
Man.
Speaker 11 (46:18):
She was.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
She she give him bedroom minds and she was biting
the lip a little bit. I was like, I was like, oh,
Bruce Lee Roy, Bruce trying when Bruce came back to
the house and get a little medallion. She was trying
to give him something that night and he was like,
let's go.
Speaker 7 (46:35):
And then Bruce Lee Roy short but a cord looking woman.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Yeah, I'm looking at you.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh my god, man, one of them when you walk by,
she just snatched in the room.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I'm gonna have to go back and watch that. It's been.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
Don't I can't remember if I did it was.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
You were laugh You will laugh, man, because the little kid,
I'm telling you now, he him, Man, sure enough?
Speaker 6 (47:02):
Was it a movie there that I do? Hey, man,
won't you sit down to shut up? He said, why
don't I sit down? And what I said and even
that maybe loud because I was like, if he had
just told them to sit down, he might have just
set out. But when he said sit out and shut up,
he was like, why don't you come down here? Make
me like you don't hurt the baby, don't hurt them,
not the face. It was great. It was great, man,
(47:23):
it was absolutely. I wish I'm gonna be able to
look out now because I think it's a it's a
it's a can we say it's AMC. I think AMC
does that with us. They put more of the older movies.
They'll have like a Wednesday or early in the week.
They'll throw some of those old movies in there. I
would love for them to put back A Vampire in Brooklyn.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I watched just a little bit of it was so funny.
It's such an underrated movie. But I like certain things
like that. I would like to see school Days. I
like to see in the in the movie theater or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
Movies to me are like massages, like.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Don't worry, I'm not going come on to Sean No,
like when you like it's an ordeal to go, like
you gotta go, you gotta pay, gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Welcome to overtime. So we gotta get out of here.
We gotta go.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
I'll tell you what I mean by that. Yes, good stuff, man,
Glad you had a good night out. Nate, good seeing you, Kurt,
good stuff, Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air, Josh,
thanks for keeping the company. Come back tomorrow, predictions and
some phone calls on hanging with the boys.
Speaker 7 (48:23):
I ain't watching film.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
I'll tell you about that massage.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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