September 12, 2025 • 47 mins
The best NFC teams can endure an injury. Well, can the Cowboys endure the loss of DaRon Bland? We’re about to find out. But let’s have a little fun on this Friday by reviewing the Dallas Morning News’ Top 100 all-time Cowboys (including our man Nate at No. 42), and we’ll rank the 88s. Plus, Jesse’s key stat (hint: watch the slot) and our predictions.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 6 (01:01):
Yes, sir, when we.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
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It We Man, we had some down there to day.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Yes, did you I didn't get no wings wings?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Huh?
Speaker 7 (01:15):
Yeah, Man, I should have brought you good pieces. They
had that too. They had that all, Bro, they had
it all.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I missed the free lunch.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
That might be that might be at the top of
the list of things that I that I miss about
this place.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Make some good lunch about the human relationships I have
that I still have that.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Okay, okay, I have.
Speaker 9 (01:35):
That, all the relationships, all the relationships, none of the headache.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Leave it at the door when I walk out. Wow,
how are y'all good? Good? Ready for some football? Good
game last night?
Speaker 10 (01:51):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Man? Nice game?
Speaker 10 (01:52):
Man?
Speaker 11 (01:53):
Yeah, trackers looking good, looking real good.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That might have been that missing piece. That might have
been that missing piece.
Speaker 12 (02:00):
I'm gonna tell you something. Remember we talked about why
quarterbacks look how they look. We know jayde Daniels ain't
no Wilson, but when you can't set your feet, you
kind of look like Wilson.
Speaker 9 (02:13):
I'll tell you what. When or when Jordan Love played here?
What was that two years ago in the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Like he looked like he had potential to be special?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Is he taking that next step this year? Is this
like a big, a big.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Two game sample?
Speaker 12 (02:30):
It's nice? The two games has been nice. The thing
that nobody never.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
I'll use the kid, the Texans kid, c J.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Strout.
Speaker 12 (02:45):
We know these kids are there. Do you have the coordinator, Washington?
Do you have the coordinator to help these kids go
to the next level. They've given Jordan the weapons and
they've asked him, you know, we know you a great
film study, be a little bit better. And now you
heard the announcer say, you know, last night a lot
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of guys practiced throwing off off off kilter. He practiced
doing with his body right, everything set straight, same way
with it, believe it or not. With the Buffalo quarterback. Yeah,
some guys they work on that. Dak works on that accuracy.
Hips in the right feet in the right place because
they all realize, you know, even though I am special,
(03:29):
I'm not Mahomes don't be with you not and this
kid is throwing that ball man.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah, he remember Jordan Love He got hurt, yes, early
in the season last year, missed some games and kind
of never really quite put it all back together dealing
with the injuries. And he has some injuries as the receivers.
But it seems as if that he's found, you know,
he's found his rhythm and that play caller.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
That he has. They've been together for a while.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Part of while made him not taking that next step
because they got rid of his offensive coordinator and so
what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Is a touch of green is.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Every day?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I will get into you. He broke mess his head up,
She broke his concentration. It's like, what do you what
are you talking about? Jesse got a little great wrisk man.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
If you've been listening to the last two and a
half weeks, some lady just let him up. How beautiful
his green shirt was?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Not three four times a week.
Speaker 12 (04:36):
It's a little touching every time you put on green, y'all,
can you acknowledge it?
Speaker 7 (04:40):
I'm gonna keep messing with it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Looks good.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Let's go ahead on man, finish up.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I forgot what.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Stroud and the growth of Jordan.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, you want to be able to have that consistency
with your coordinator, because that's just it's it's a relationship.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
It's a marriage that we continue to grow together.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I know your sure weak It says, I know how
to play, you know call plays, you know how I
want things done. So it's just back and forth. Said
that they haven't. They had an interesting stat last year.
They talked about when Green Bay was one of their
Super Bowls. It happened when Brett Farv turned twenty seven. Yeah,
it happened when Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Turned seven and even the Burt Starr.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, Bart Startley seven and now Jeorde Long he'll be
twenty seven in November. So you know, early they looking
like early favorites right now that defense is playing like
with their hair on fire, and so yeah, yeah, they
look good last night.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
We get to see it up close and personal here
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 12 (05:36):
But you know what, you know what's special about. You
know what's special about and you know, I'm listening to
this thing. And their GM was hot last year. He
was upset that they didn't go as far as they
needed to go. That is just what the announcers saying.
So you know, take it how you want to take it.
But he knew he had an A plus player on
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offense and that, believe it or not, that's Jordan Love,
I mean, and you see that how he's distributing the ball.
They got a good more than I think they got
a couple of B players on the offensive line.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
The tight end. I didn't even know he was like that.
He is like that.
Speaker 12 (06:15):
So that's a B plus player at this time early
in the year. Now you go get an A plus.
I mean, look, they go along with with the with
the rest of them Bees.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
They got that.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
The Cowboys passed over Craft. I'm just saying could have
gotten Craft a couple of years ago.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Maker.
Speaker 12 (06:32):
But but what I'm trying to say is when you
look at Green Bay and you look at Philadelphia, you
look at Detroit, what what what are they doing? Not
only are they good teams and solid and has these
players we talked about yesterday, but I think they can
endure a little injury.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
They depth that they can. They can deal with a little.
Speaker 11 (06:55):
Injury because they drafted well, or.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
They've drafted well, they've developed well, they have spent.
Speaker 12 (07:00):
Their money well when they went out and got players,
didn't you know, uh right about now, they probably can
endure little injuries. If Michael missed a week or two,
they I think they can still hold on. I think
they can compete this just the two weeks sample size.
I'm not going overboard because the remember last week, everybody's
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talking like Washington just rolled over New York and I
guess what, four or five days later, even though you
had to travel, even though it's early in the season
and everybody ain't got their legs up and you had
to travel and you looked at similar not quite like
that offensive line, but they got the right tackle.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
They be exposed.
Speaker 11 (07:43):
Cowboys now have an injury. Do they have the depth
to we.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Didn't have before the injury?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
This was, this was you know we talked about cornerback, Oh,
training camp, long defensive line, cornerback, defensive line. Yeah, and
it was you know, you knew the injuries were there.
You thought, you know, all right, rebel and seatbelt. One
of those guys coming back astonishingly, Trayvon Diggs had sped
up his recovery projects. They were talking about him might
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not be a couple of weeks out, but now he's
in there. Now you lose d ron Bland for a
couple of weeks, and now you're looking at guys like
Reddy Stewart, like coach Shottenheimer said today, or talked about
some elevations and then using Yanye Thomas and some of
those Nickel packages.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yeah, you got some You have some depth issue.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And you hope and I'm not you crossed your fingers,
you're knock on woods. You pray to whatever God did
you believe in that you don't sustain any more injuries
in the game at that position. Because if you if
you can't cover it in this league, that's trouble.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
I can't think of a number nineties name for green Bay.
Speaker 12 (08:52):
He was drafted that two or three years ago as
a you know, was that wooden't the he's defensive and
he was drafted for green Bay?
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Oh yeah, yeah and number ninety.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
That's how that came that Michael took his spot right now.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 12 (09:08):
Their first rounder said, you know what, I'm picking my
game up. I'm picking my guess what their first rounder said,
I'm picking my game up. So last night and I
only talked about number one, number eleven, whoever.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
They talked about their whole defensive line now.
Speaker 12 (09:29):
And I believe Mica is that putting that cream or
that chair that they've been they've been craving, and now
they got it for this year. Because I'm only speaking
about this year.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
These kids have picked up their game.
Speaker 12 (09:43):
They talked, you know, they always kept a circle on
the special one. He's done knowing it one. But all
of those guys played well, and he did not let
nobody run that ball.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But all I'm saying is, yes, he is that they
play They played that well, because yes, sir, the other
guy just like here, Just like here, when you have
an eight plus player, the other guys are able their
games elevate when you have that level of player.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
There, and and the and the folks in the was
that Madison, Wisconsin, Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Swiss Jesus Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
They all all thinking, they were all thinking the great one.
Last night after the game, they were shouting it out.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
You know, it was so funny, Jerry Jones. But they
had a big mural outside.
Speaker 12 (10:28):
Yeah, that's funny, man, You got a love green man.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
You know that's interesting. You brought up depth. Phil Mickelson
was used to bet.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
I don't know if he still does, but he used
to bet on the NFL every year he picked he
picked the Super Bowl winner preseason, two years in a
row or two out of three years. And he said
he would take the top teams and he would go
through the roster and he would analyze who had the
most depth out of those top teams. And that's how
he would always figure out who he was going to
pick for the Super Bowl. And he work worked a
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couple of years in a row. Anyway, So we tell you.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
Something, everybody, and you'll hear me. I'm gonna say this
over and over why the baseball may have made the
same mistake for the last forty years. I want me
a starting pitcher. I want me in center fielder. I
need a hard bat swinging uh first basement. But by
the by, by seventy games in, everybody looking for middle reliever.
(11:29):
Why do we need the middle relievers? Now you know
what I'm saying. So it's just how the game is.
A lot of people, you know, they swing at the fences.
But then it was the season grind on. It's still
gonna come down to running game because they needed a
running game for two reasons last and I'm talking about
watching it to save seventy two's confidence because he done
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gave up four sacks in two games. He played left
tackle in college. Now they got him at right tackle.
Sometime it is an adjustment, but you going against all
pros guys with that type of ability, so they're killing
his confidence. And that's why I say, outlive, offensive coordinator,
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do you realize what's happening.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
You're not gonna kill you right tackle.
Speaker 12 (12:15):
That was the first round pick quarterback because you got
to make adjustment sometimes you got to take the air
to the ball.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You mean you don't want to, you know what I mean?
That's about running.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Yeah, real quick, before we go to break, Kurt, there's
an award that was handed out that I've never heard
of before.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
Oh yeah, well, the players Union gives out just kind
of a they honor a player each week for their
community service.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And I got this wull sasa. Is that a new
new award.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
No, they've done it in the past.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
We just never have anybody win it.
Speaker 11 (12:50):
Well, we probably have, but I don't remember who. But yeah,
he's had something recently where it's kind of like single mothers.
I think.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Yeah, he's always been about Yes.
Speaker 11 (13:02):
He's done some good work, so it's nice.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
He did a baby shower for single mother That's right,
that's what he did last week.
Speaker 11 (13:09):
So it's nice to see him.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Good job. O woo sah.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
And this Sunday is the one thousandth game in Cowboys history.
We have a list that Kurt will review and we'll
see if we agree with the list and see maybe
one of us in this room is on that list.
Could it be Jesse Holly.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Let's not be.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
We'll see when we come back.
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Speaker 4 (15:51):
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Speaker 11 (16:04):
I'm kind of surprised this isn't getting more interest.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
That's a lot, right, that's a lot of games.
Speaker 11 (16:10):
Only a handful of teams have reached that many. So yeah,
it's pretty cool. But I don't know if you guys
have seen Dallas Morning News, they did a pretty cool
uh story, just a list of the top one hundred
players in Cowboys history.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
So yeah, that's a shout out to the folks that
did that. Yeah, I don't know if I necessarily agree
with this list.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Oh there's a lot of Yes, that list is and.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
There's some names, like there's some the people who were
doing this list. It's like Brad Sham, Yeah, there's top
Walking Like it's it's some people who've been arounding for
a while.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I'm like, lists are tough, though, man.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Like I don't like yeah, but it's like there's those
games in this list.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
You're like, wait, he was wet Nober.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
What right?
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Who's in front of him?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Give me some give me some suspect ones, Kurt.
Speaker 11 (16:53):
The couple that stood up to me was like john
nyland is sixty second or seventies or something like that.
He was a six time Pro Bowler and or some
three time All Pro. You know, he's way down. I
think having both George Andre and and.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Was the other guy's name you had a list.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, I got the list, but they had like to me,
they had like they had t O. They had Alvin
Harper and I know that he won super Bowls, but
they're not better receivers than Dez Bryant. No, like they
had des way back.
Speaker 11 (17:26):
I was like, Kevin Smith is on the list, No
disrespect to him. Yeah, I'm surprised he's the top. He's
fifty ninth. You know, there's there's just but that's part
of the fun of it. You know. I thought Tony
Hill was ninety eight. I thought he would be ranked enough.
So he's one of the top receivers in the in
the league. So yeah, there's there's some interesting But that's
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Jethropus the other kind of think when he both him
and Andre being behind DeMarcus Lawrence, I think is kind
of ridiculous. They have far more sacks and than Lawrence did.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Were you on the list?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I was not on the list.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I wasn't on the list. Jesse on the list.
Speaker 11 (18:04):
Jesse was not on the list.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's Chris on the list. No, no, his native number.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Right, we'll go, you know what, man top fifty.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
That's why I don't like the error game. You know,
the great this and great that, uh.
Speaker 12 (18:26):
We played in our different eras, whether it's you go
about ten year or five years. You know, it's been
too many great players and uh and what they meant
for their teams, doing their era, doing their span of
playing time. You know that, you know, and in the
nine time out of ten, the people that are doing
this they mean well, but they ain't gonna never get
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it right. I won only be able to get it
right because you can't tell this man that dead is
when who he is in his era, and you couldn't
tell us that we every week were coming as you like,
we talked about this invisible guy, this guy that's gone.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Now.
Speaker 12 (19:04):
That's how dads was every week, whether he did something good,
bad or indifferent, every week, dad's dad's dads.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
So for eight years it was dad's dad's dads. You know.
Speaker 12 (19:16):
But when Drew played, you know, and Tony played, it
was about so you know, you know, you know, Brad
is spanning over all of those years. But you know,
when I was coming up, you couln't tell nobody, you know,
way Bobby at five third, you know what's her top five?
Speaker 11 (19:36):
There's two long snap long snappers on this list.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
That tells you, yeah, LP, they got LP, lot of LP.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Yeah, and I was a team at LP.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
I like LP.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I don't think LP is the one hundred like one hundred.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
One penalty in thirteen years.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Listen, it's pretty solid. Let's be honest and see that
that is the you know, uh, I think a lot.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
It's same with the Hall of Fame, who you're friends with,
who you can persuade if a player, if a player
is not good enough, player is not there, now you
gotta fight.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Okay, he was a.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
Friend of mine and he was this and come on, man,
come on, believe it or not, we had a kicker.
I'm talking about this previous kicking. Now remember last year.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Oh man, sixty seven, fifty eight. Well, guess what y'all
don't see some fifty eight some six.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
That's the norm now, So the you know what I
kicker is he's just another guy now that should be
kicking at the end of the half of a game
winning field goals. But if he kicking sixty dollars just
to keep us from having being down two scores, you
in trouble anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
What's your top five?
Speaker 11 (20:53):
Kurt Stallback obviously number one, Larry Allen number Two's that's
nice recognition. Bob Bloody three and that's four. Chuck Halley
was five. I thought that was a little high for him.
Uh mel Renfro sixth, Randy White seventh, or to put
him above Holly Tony Dor said eight, Troy Ickman ninth,
the Marcus ware was tenth.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So they didn't they didn't ask for your input.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
They did not.
Speaker 12 (21:19):
Man, The thing is, man, what was the list? How
many guys are on the list?
Speaker 11 (21:24):
One hundred?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Know how many guys? Was two hundred guys?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
He was picked in front every every every every single one,
every cowboy.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Come everybody ain't great?
Speaker 11 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Everybody?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Everybody ain't great.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
When I when I when I call a name, it's
a yes or no, it ain't well. Did I smoke au?
Did I go to a cigar bar with him a
couple of times? Did I hang out around? Did we
ride on the train together before the airplane?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Come on, man, he's the king of taking shots. Come
man without taking shots, you know, because we all know.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Oh my thing is.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I'm glads to come rup. What's wrong up by that?
Speaker 12 (22:10):
If that's the case, man, I invited to the White
House and got two more points up.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Come on, now.
Speaker 11 (22:17):
Danny White was ahead of both Stack and Tony.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
So he played two positions.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
So he was a five time NFC guy NFC I
think he was three or four times in the NFC
Championship game. Never won any of them, never won on
any of.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Them, and we and we crucified this guy.
Speaker 12 (22:36):
Now we're dying and begging to get to the NFC
Championship Game.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
It's just the era you played there. He followed, don't
follow the man.
Speaker 12 (22:45):
He followed Roger stock back, don't follow the man, Tommy.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Yeah. I mean you can punt all, you follow all
you want. You know, we need third dollar complete.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
They asked this question on one O five three the
the day.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
I thought it was a really good question. Where how
would you rank the eighty eights? How would where would
you put them? Mike Drew Dave's CD like, how.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
We're going to start with the receiver them from where? Where?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
How where would you put him? I thought that was
a pot in the pumps because you could make a case.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Like one and two could be interchangeable, two and three
could be interchangeable, two through four could be in it because.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
You got to you got to put in not on
the era, because I can make so much. Uh, for
the first two eighty eights, the passing was not number one.
Passing was not number one. So everything you got it
you had to make the most just off of that
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case right there, and it was a lot more physical.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know because dads went
seeking it.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
So we're talking about just athletes.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Just just that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Ever, like des is the best eight of the eighty
eights currently right now, Like he was the most dominant
eighty eight that he played.
Speaker 16 (24:12):
You know what I thought when CD, I know we
were past it, But when CD stretched out for that ball,
I was like, Dez makes that catch nine point nine
out of ten times, like.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
That has his ball.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Like again, we're always it's it's you're right errors and
you play the recency bias. But you know, I wasn't
around for Drew Pearson all right.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I was a young young boy around Michael Irvin.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I saw up closing personal des and I'm watching up
close and personal now CD. At the end of it all,
CD will be the best eighty eight at the end
of it all, when it's all set and done, breaking news.
When it's all set and done, the numbers, like he
don't get the championships, his numbers will be better. I
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think he's gonna have. He's gonna have. He's gonna have
in the next couple of years one of those dominant
three four year runs where he's one of the best
receivers in the league. But he's gonna he's gonna lap
in far as catches and yards those before him.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
This is one thing I can say about CD that
the other eighty eights had. But the CD is my
CD can break runs. I don't see how as why
everybody does it. I don't see how he makes some
of these catches and take the CD is the biggest
to me.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
The biggest of all the other playmakers.
Speaker 14 (25:39):
He is.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
He's special. Man, he's special.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
But man, Dees had to run bro where he just
was so dominant.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
He was so big, he was like, go get the
ball out.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He would fight you.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
He had a three year run, but he was the
most dominant receiver in this league. It was, and it
was it was unique to wid and it was also
a reminder, and I don't say this in a disrespectful manner,
but he didn't work at it like he didn't work
at Fitzgerald.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
He just was.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
He didn't fish Gerald.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
No, like he just a lot of times he just
showed up like he just was, like what time game
is at three? Were supposed to be at three out
before I'll be the point. I'll be the twenty five
minutes fourth time ago. I'll be ready twenty five minutes,
four time ago.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
And just can you imagine if he took care of
his body the way Jerry Rice did and then he
Fitzgerald and then he studied and knew the game like.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Fitzgerald probably put Michael over him. Yeah, because.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
I wish i'd have been a little bit older and
had more football knowledge.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Back when you guys played, to be able to appreciate,
Like I knew what football was. I'd watch it, but
I didn't understand the game like I do now. I
wish all those battles y'all have with the forty nine ers,
like I understood what football was and not just watching
it on TV.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I'm gonna tell you about dead.
Speaker 12 (27:06):
I'm saying in my mind some of the routes I
saw him run, and I said, this, dude didn't run
the right route because.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
He'll see something himself and he'll look back in there
to Tony and Dan's doing this. I'm like, you can't
be running the right route. He'll be like him.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Had a great way.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
They used to improvise a lot of stuff, but it
was it was special to watch him. But like I
watched CD now and I'm just like, I'm I literally
watched it and I'm just like, dude, this special. And
and Mike, Mike was just so polarizing. He's the most
polarizing before, right.
Speaker 11 (27:45):
Yeah, the mental side of it, I would think more
than any of them. I mean, just that constantly working.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
And the mental toughness.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
I'm gonna get it all around the mental Mike, because
like I said, now, I've seen him.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Did you ever see Mike getting taken out of a game.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
Nah, I've seen us purposely allow it to be done.
We was playing Atlanta and we was playing against Dion
and and and Mike said, Okay, if y'all if y'all
scared of dun I'm gonna go along with it.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
But Alvin, you other guys, Kmart, Dona Jay.
Speaker 12 (28:23):
We lost that game, man, and I had to hit
get cussed out coming back on the plane.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
The whole y'all heard me tell I did get cussed.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Out the whole.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
I'm like, Mike, if you want to say something, Detroit,
he too said. But I'm telling you we never done
it again, no matter who we played.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
We never took Mike out of the game.
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Because if you told Mike, Okay, this is the route
you out to run, this guy's acceptable for this. Mike
was gonna have Troy out there. Man, we gotta run
this about five time. And mikeauld be running things so fast, man,
like it's in the game, getting prepared. He dropped a
ball in practice. It ain't gonna make it to the
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game because Troy be like he just knew.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
He just looking like.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
We get it out of the practice.
Speaker 12 (29:13):
We get it out of practice because Jimmy don't want
to practice to keep going that Mike. But now route
running and scheming, Drew has to be the best at that.
Because coach Landri kept a lot of motions, a lot
of movements, a lot of different plays. They like, they
was like the modern day, the modern day Patriots. A
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player moved two inches, the homle play changes. So you
got to be you know, you got to be smart
and you got to be on the move. And that's
what Drew has with a set of hands. Because they
had golden riches. They had Tony Hill, they had him,
and they had one other guy. If you slipped, Roger
was going somewhere else.
Speaker 11 (29:54):
He was tough too.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Yeah, so where would you where would you put him?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Just in order?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
What would your order be?
Speaker 7 (30:01):
It's gonna be hard on.
Speaker 12 (30:02):
Jess Man's unsettled again, just just overall like body of work, talent.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
He's gonna Super Bowls going there.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, so you gotta go. I mean I would go,
Mike does, Mike does Drew CD with.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
CD climbing quickly getting there.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Yeah, I would go, Mike does.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Who is the best slant runner? Dres of Mike?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
That's come on, come on, Mike.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bruh. Mike didn't care
who was that linebacker, who was that safety? He knew
how he I remember him telling him that, Daz, quit
leading with your head. You gotta see what the set
up is, DEAs. But you can either get it with
your hands, cradle it with your body talk.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But Daz wasn't trying to catch it with his body.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Everything with his hands well, and that's one of the
contact he wanted, like he he would absorb that and
bounce out the opposite way.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, I'm man.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Das was so he was so physical man and and
so strong.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
It was just I just man, I wish, I wish,
I wish I was older in in the sense of
like come here, like you know what I'm saying, Like
I was older, but I wasn't. Yeah, like I was
just I was just trying to find my way.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I'm like, man, listen, which I need me to do,
but to be like come here, like let's go, because
he could have been he could have been world class.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
It was two years too short.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Yeah, there was nothing more exciting than then Tony throwing
the long ball and there's one on one and watching
him go up and like you.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Talk about you talk about Michael Irving and the bang
eight Like then I'll go out, faith, I go out.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I'll volley right back to you with poetry.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Nobody ran the backs of Tree better than those two.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
You knew it was coming.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Everyone was coming.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Everyone couldn't stop it.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Cash was like off and waiting for it. Couldn't stop it,
could not stop it. So for every bang eight, give
me give me that back show to favorite that Tony
that that Yeah, yeah, Tony, Tony and Tony and Dez
had that that that that that was their equal to.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Did they practice that? Yeah, they put a lot of way.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (32:29):
See the thing about it, Dad's we're gonna get ran down.
At least I didn't think he was getting run down.
But Mike, anything over sixty yards, it was a shot
shot five.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
I used to hate that. Let's do this thing forty
yards and.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
How would you break them?
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Kurt?
Speaker 11 (32:49):
I think the same. I think Michael's still up there.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I would.
Speaker 11 (32:52):
I think it's a close third with Drew just because
of the resume, but talent wise, that is clearly better. Yeah,
and then see the just you.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Know doesn't ten years from now. Man, he's electrifying, man,
he is electrifi what would be I don't rank. I
just told you I don't do arrows, man, because.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
You the same thing that he said soon as he
when I mentioned Drew, he.
Speaker 17 (33:16):
Don't.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
I don't do rankings, man, I just don't.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't pick scores and I don't do rankings.
Speaker 18 (33:21):
Man.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
No, I don't pick Cowboys score. But Jackson moved. I
thought was gonna win last night.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, we're gonna ask you you think it's gonna win
Sunday the game. We know we're not gonna get answer,
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Here we go. All right, giants are coming to town?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
What what what?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
What's what's up with with our guy Marrafoul? What? What
is what?
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Lewis? Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Why can't we get him on the field?
Speaker 9 (36:36):
He graded high with PFF this week right for his
six six snaps.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
He's I'm supposed to see more than year.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I thought he was on the I thought he was
on the rise, yes.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Like thirty snaps last year. So I don't know what
do we what's going on with coaches?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I guess a coach came in and said, Sam Bourne,
you're my guy. And then the coach came in and said,
you know what, I like that guy, Kenneth Murray, you're
my guy. And then now he left on the porch.
He got left on the porch, but he's working his
way back on.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Off the porch.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
And so I think you'll see more from Mariss Uh
this Sunday.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
And again, we.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Boy, we are, we are we two weeks, we are
two weeks ining like we are, we are, we are,
we are a society at once. This ain't week twelve
like now. They look at it and they go back,
give them a moment to self evaluate and say, you
know what, maybe we could use a little bit more Mariss,
Maybe we couldn't you know this and that? So we'll
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see this week.
Speaker 12 (37:44):
Coach is who he say he is, and he's about competition.
He's about doing things right and a player is not performing,
he's he's saying, I'm gonna give you your opportunity is coming.
And I know fans don't have to be patient, and
I thank you to be not not paying the prices
that y'all paid. But the guys that create all this
(38:05):
content have a living of logic to what you're saying,
because you're leading and Coff fans should be way smarter
than this.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
You don't think so I said something wrong.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Shout out to my God, Jeff from.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Yeah, you created a storm for Jesse this week. You
got Virginia New York giving us your New.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
York give I don't always give the common sense common
sense credit a lot of folks out there because.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
A lot of folks don't have it.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
A lot of folks don't have If you've ever worked retail,
you know a lot of folks don't have it.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
So, Jesse, what is your what is your stat to
watch this week?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
For me, my stat to watch this week is the
slot receiver for the New York Football Giants. If this
thing gets competitive, it's going to be because because gonna
have a plan for elite neighbors. When you remember, you
you get your your playbook, defensive playbook, Offensive playbook. They
got God Circle, they got God started the first page
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you open up, this is who we're looking out for
this week and for them it's going to be Elie Neighbors.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
That's gonna be the guy that they look at.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Milik Neighbors twenty receptions in the last two games that
he's played against the Dallas Cowboys. But where they're going
to have to make sure with the absence now of
d ron Bland. Remember when they went to eleven Personneldron
Blank kicked inside. He was playing the Wandelle Robinson's of
the worlds. Now you don't have dron Bland, You're not
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gonna move digs inside. Carrie Elan is not gonna move inside.
Now you're gonna have a guy moved in there. Maybe
it's Juan Ye that coach talked about. Reddy Stewart is
a guy they're talking about, is gonna get those those
snaps on the inside. Wandelle Robinson is a shifty, quick,
little you know, little jitterbug. You know he now you
see him, now you don't. And if they can get
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him the ball of space with the young guy who
doesn't have much experience, he can, really he can.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
He can wreak some habits.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Keep on third downs, that's where you got to watch
out for Rondelle Robinson. Robinson on third down If Rondelle
Robinson has more than sixty five receiving yards and a touchdown,
this game will look a lot different going into the
fourth quarter for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
You noticed he didn't say they win the game. He
ain't giving the Giants.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
It looks a lot fourth quarter You.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
Say, you no, say Wandale Robinson real fast, five towns.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
You know they should be ready to come down here.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Lack of offenseve line boy?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah all right, Kurt? Yeah, how are you feeling about
the game? Lines? Five and a half? Cowboys are getting
or giving up five and a half at home.
Speaker 11 (40:52):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
What's your scoring?
Speaker 11 (40:54):
Giants are just so bad?
Speaker 10 (40:56):
Yeah, they don't if they don't win this one, and
it's gonna be a tough week.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Oh and four, here we come Owen City. I believe.
Speaker 11 (41:05):
Yeah, I'm giving it to the Cowboys.
Speaker 10 (41:07):
Like twenty thirteen, twenty high scoring game for Kurt thirteen
twenty to thirteen, Chris, what you got this week?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
I'm gonna go thirty two seventeen, thirty two seventeen. What's
Josh got back? There is Josh playing with us this year?
Speaker 14 (41:28):
Ate?
Speaker 4 (41:29):
What you got?
Speaker 9 (41:29):
Thirty eight thirty four to thirteen, thirty four thirteen, Nate
by one, Nate by how many?
Speaker 12 (41:35):
The thing that's amazing to me, the things that is
amazing to me is it's one thing that makes UH
New York bad, and it's a key thing. It's the
offensive line. If they had just an average offensive line
just could block sixty percent of the time, we wouldn't
be talking this way about now. So I'm thinking that
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they will improve just a degree. So because at first
I had us win in by seven, but I think
they'll get two points better.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
So we went in by five about five. I know
how we get there.
Speaker 9 (42:11):
But hey, I'm gonna drink Jesse's kool aid and Nates,
I think, but I think they're gonna put up a
few points. I'm gonna go Giant seventeen, Cowboys twenty.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You know what? How about Cowboys thirty four?
Speaker 14 (42:26):
Cool?
Speaker 12 (42:27):
So what will it at home? So this is I'm
putting it on you. So the pickings watch? How many
catches would he get this?
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Four?
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Oh, let's let's do that. That'd be a fun game.
Speaker 7 (42:41):
Watch.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
You're gonna go all the fa catches or targets, catches.
Speaker 12 (42:44):
How many targets, how many catch targets? Will catches targets
and catches targets.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
He'll get about about seven. Okay, you know the four catches,
but one of those are we a forty plus yard of.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Though, Jesse go seven, four for seven? What you got, Kurt?
Speaker 11 (42:58):
I'll say.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
Four for five, okay, Kurt, four for five? All right, Nate,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Coach Shottenheimer told y'all this is why I always laugh
at what people say. I sometimes have to step out
and say things and I have to stand on it
and the way people come around to it. Coach shott
Heimers had it in the press conference either this morning
or yesterday. He was like, listen, CD's getting the ball early,
and often like that's just what it is. He said, well,
we got our play call. Shit, I got a spot
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for cde Lamb. It looks a little something like this,
and he said he probably has the bigger one.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
The ball's coming to CD Lamb. That's why people like,
oh they're two number ones. No it ain't no, it
ain't no.
Speaker 17 (43:45):
It is not amen, amen, and it's still CD Lamb
and then them God leave man. So George will get
some catches. He'll get seven targets, get four catches, and
you know, like I said, it'll want of those will
be a forty plus? Are there to be a splash play?
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Do I say every day that we number one? Show
we are? Okay, I better quit saying.
Speaker 9 (44:05):
I'm gonna go seven. I'm gonna think they're gonna sling it.
Eleven targets, seven catches.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Wow, Oh, big time super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Let's go, Jesse. What is your more, Lionel score man?
Speaker 11 (44:17):
More and less than.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
I think CD gets fourteen targets this game. I think
they're gonna sling it.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Okay, he's breaking put their foot on the net. Yeah
this one man?
Speaker 5 (44:28):
Uh from the moment I put the tape on the Cowboys,
no question saying all I've been saying it all weekend.
The only thing that football we all know. She's a
She's a very very very fickle lady. And depending on
what time of the week, I how the ball bout,
she can turn either way.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
She ain't lorded nobody.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Everybody got a shot.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
The Cowboys would have to turn the ball over at
an outstanding rate for this dude football game. They would,
they they honestly they would. And you look at all
the records you know they got this will if they
win this game, will be fourteen in a row. DAK
is sixteen to one the last couple of years. You know,
since twenty twenty one, Ceedee Lamb has six hundred and
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fifty yards and five touchdowns. DAK has like fourteen touchdowns
and three interceptions, and I think like fourteen hundred yards.
But it's the Cowboys have literally owned it should be
the New York Football Giant Cowboys because the Cowboys have
owned them.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
And this is no different this week.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
It's no different this week unless the Cowboys turn the
ball over crazy and I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Give me twenty eight to twelve the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Well four field goals.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
Yeah, it's come. I'm telling y'all like that.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
When you see the offensive line, it's it's a bad
offensive line. It is a bad offensive line.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
Do you think they can get better?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
I mean they it can't get no worse.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
It don't get no worse. So you know, sometimes you
know you can't count things twice right just because you
ain't tried, that don't mean you good. You know what
I'm saying, So they can get a little bit better.
Than trash, but even trash is still Wow.
Speaker 12 (46:09):
You can't be tried. You can't be tried for the
same murder, big murdering quarterback.
Speaker 9 (46:18):
I thought that interesting, real quick, real quick, most receptions
in a game by Dallas Cowboys would be eighteen Jason
Whitten verse the Giants.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Wow the little stat there, Chris ten twenty nine to
twenty twelve.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
Wow, thanks for that stating Manes all right.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Just good stuff, Nate, good stuff, Kurt, good stuff.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
Thanks for the list, Chris, thanks for keeping us on
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Speaker 4 (01:20):
I missed the free lunch.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:25):
That might be that might be at the top of
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this place.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
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Speaker 4 (01:40):
Leave it at the door when I walk out. Wow,
how are y'all good? Good? Ready for some football? Good
game last night?
Speaker 10 (01:51):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Man? Nice game?
Speaker 10 (01:52):
Man?
Speaker 11 (01:53):
Yeah, trackers looking good, looking real good.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That might have been that missing piece. That might have
been that missing piece.
Speaker 12 (02:00):
I'm gonna tell you something. Remember we talked about why
quarterbacks look how they look. We know jayde Daniels ain't
no Wilson, but when you can't set your feet, you
kind of look like Wilson.
Speaker 9 (02:13):
I'll tell you what. When or when Jordan Love played here?
What was that two years ago in the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Like he looked like he had potential to be special?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Is he taking that next step this year? Is this
like a big, a big.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Two game sample?
Speaker 12 (02:30):
It's nice? The two games has been nice. The thing
that nobody never.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
I'll use the kid, the Texans kid, c J.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Strout.
Speaker 12 (02:45):
We know these kids are there. Do you have the coordinator, Washington?
Do you have the coordinator to help these kids go
to the next level. They've given Jordan the weapons and
they've asked him, you know, we know you a great
film study, be a little bit better. And now you
heard the announcer say, you know, last night a lot
(03:07):
of guys practiced throwing off off off kilter. He practiced
doing with his body right, everything set straight, same way
with it, believe it or not. With the Buffalo quarterback. Yeah,
some guys they work on that. Dak works on that accuracy.
Hips in the right feet in the right place because
they all realize, you know, even though I am special,
(03:29):
I'm not Mahomes don't be with you not and this
kid is throwing that ball man.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah, he remember Jordan Love He got hurt, yes, early
in the season last year, missed some games and kind
of never really quite put it all back together dealing
with the injuries. And he has some injuries as the receivers.
But it seems as if that he's found, you know,
he's found his rhythm and that play caller.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
That he has. They've been together for a while.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Part of while made him not taking that next step
because they got rid of his offensive coordinator and so
what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Is a touch of green is.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Every day?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I will get into you. He broke mess his head up,
She broke his concentration. It's like, what do you what
are you talking about? Jesse got a little great wrisk man.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
If you've been listening to the last two and a
half weeks, some lady just let him up. How beautiful
his green shirt was?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Not three four times a week.
Speaker 12 (04:36):
It's a little touching every time you put on green, y'all,
can you acknowledge it?
Speaker 7 (04:40):
I'm gonna keep messing with it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Looks good.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Let's go ahead on man, finish up.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I forgot what.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Stroud and the growth of Jordan.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, you want to be able to have that consistency
with your coordinator, because that's just it's it's a relationship.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
It's a marriage that we continue to grow together.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I know your sure weak It says, I know how
to play, you know call plays, you know how I
want things done. So it's just back and forth. Said
that they haven't. They had an interesting stat last year.
They talked about when Green Bay was one of their
Super Bowls. It happened when Brett Farv turned twenty seven. Yeah,
it happened when Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Turned seven and even the Burt Starr.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, Bart Startley seven and now Jeorde Long he'll be
twenty seven in November. So you know, early they looking
like early favorites right now that defense is playing like
with their hair on fire, and so yeah, yeah, they
look good last night.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
We get to see it up close and personal here
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 12 (05:36):
But you know what, you know what's special about. You
know what's special about and you know, I'm listening to
this thing. And their GM was hot last year. He
was upset that they didn't go as far as they
needed to go. That is just what the announcers saying.
So you know, take it how you want to take it.
But he knew he had an A plus player on
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offense and that, believe it or not, that's Jordan Love,
I mean, and you see that how he's distributing the ball.
They got a good more than I think they got
a couple of B players on the offensive line.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
The tight end. I didn't even know he was like that.
He is like that.
Speaker 12 (06:15):
So that's a B plus player at this time early
in the year. Now you go get an A plus.
I mean, look, they go along with with the with
the rest of them Bees.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
They got that.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
The Cowboys passed over Craft. I'm just saying could have
gotten Craft a couple of years ago.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Maker.
Speaker 12 (06:32):
But but what I'm trying to say is when you
look at Green Bay and you look at Philadelphia, you
look at Detroit, what what what are they doing? Not
only are they good teams and solid and has these
players we talked about yesterday, but I think they can
endure a little injury.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
They depth that they can. They can deal with a little.
Speaker 11 (06:55):
Injury because they drafted well, or.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
They've drafted well, they've developed well, they have spent.
Speaker 12 (07:00):
Their money well when they went out and got players,
didn't you know, uh right about now, they probably can
endure little injuries. If Michael missed a week or two,
they I think they can still hold on. I think
they can compete this just the two weeks sample size.
I'm not going overboard because the remember last week, everybody's
(07:23):
talking like Washington just rolled over New York and I
guess what, four or five days later, even though you
had to travel, even though it's early in the season
and everybody ain't got their legs up and you had
to travel and you looked at similar not quite like
that offensive line, but they got the right tackle.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
They be exposed.
Speaker 11 (07:43):
Cowboys now have an injury. Do they have the depth
to we.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Didn't have before the injury?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
This was, this was you know we talked about cornerback, Oh,
training camp, long defensive line, cornerback, defensive line. Yeah, and
it was you know, you knew the injuries were there.
You thought, you know, all right, rebel and seatbelt. One
of those guys coming back astonishingly, Trayvon Diggs had sped
up his recovery projects. They were talking about him might
(08:13):
not be a couple of weeks out, but now he's
in there. Now you lose d ron Bland for a
couple of weeks, and now you're looking at guys like
Reddy Stewart, like coach Shottenheimer said today, or talked about
some elevations and then using Yanye Thomas and some of
those Nickel packages.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yeah, you got some You have some depth issue.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And you hope and I'm not you crossed your fingers,
you're knock on woods. You pray to whatever God did
you believe in that you don't sustain any more injuries
in the game at that position. Because if you if
you can't cover it in this league, that's trouble.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
I can't think of a number nineties name for green Bay.
Speaker 12 (08:52):
He was drafted that two or three years ago as
a you know, was that wooden't the he's defensive and
he was drafted for green Bay?
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Oh yeah, yeah and number ninety.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
That's how that came that Michael took his spot right now.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 12 (09:08):
Their first rounder said, you know what, I'm picking my
game up. I'm picking my guess what their first rounder said,
I'm picking my game up. So last night and I
only talked about number one, number eleven, whoever.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
They talked about their whole defensive line now.
Speaker 12 (09:29):
And I believe Mica is that putting that cream or
that chair that they've been they've been craving, and now
they got it for this year. Because I'm only speaking
about this year.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
These kids have picked up their game.
Speaker 12 (09:43):
They talked, you know, they always kept a circle on
the special one. He's done knowing it one. But all
of those guys played well, and he did not let
nobody run that ball.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But all I'm saying is, yes, he is that they
play They played that well, because yes, sir, the other
guy just like here, Just like here, when you have
an eight plus player, the other guys are able their
games elevate when you have that level of player.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
There, and and the and the folks in the was
that Madison, Wisconsin, Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Swiss Jesus Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
They all all thinking, they were all thinking the great one.
Last night after the game, they were shouting it out.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
You know, it was so funny, Jerry Jones. But they
had a big mural outside.
Speaker 12 (10:28):
Yeah, that's funny, man, You got a love green man.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
You know that's interesting. You brought up depth. Phil Mickelson
was used to bet.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
I don't know if he still does, but he used
to bet on the NFL every year he picked he
picked the Super Bowl winner preseason, two years in a
row or two out of three years. And he said
he would take the top teams and he would go
through the roster and he would analyze who had the
most depth out of those top teams. And that's how
he would always figure out who he was going to
pick for the Super Bowl. And he work worked a
(11:00):
couple of years in a row. Anyway, So we tell you.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
Something, everybody, and you'll hear me. I'm gonna say this
over and over why the baseball may have made the
same mistake for the last forty years. I want me
a starting pitcher. I want me in center fielder. I
need a hard bat swinging uh first basement. But by
the by, by seventy games in, everybody looking for middle reliever.
(11:29):
Why do we need the middle relievers? Now you know
what I'm saying. So it's just how the game is.
A lot of people, you know, they swing at the fences.
But then it was the season grind on. It's still
gonna come down to running game because they needed a
running game for two reasons last and I'm talking about
watching it to save seventy two's confidence because he done
(11:52):
gave up four sacks in two games. He played left
tackle in college. Now they got him at right tackle.
Sometime it is an adjustment, but you going against all
pros guys with that type of ability, so they're killing
his confidence. And that's why I say, outlive, offensive coordinator,
(12:12):
do you realize what's happening.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
You're not gonna kill you right tackle.
Speaker 12 (12:15):
That was the first round pick quarterback because you got
to make adjustment sometimes you got to take the air
to the ball.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You mean you don't want to, you know what I mean?
That's about running.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Yeah, real quick, before we go to break, Kurt, there's
an award that was handed out that I've never heard
of before.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
Oh yeah, well, the players Union gives out just kind
of a they honor a player each week for their
community service.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And I got this wull sasa. Is that a new
new award.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
No, they've done it in the past.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
We just never have anybody win it.
Speaker 11 (12:50):
Well, we probably have, but I don't remember who. But yeah,
he's had something recently where it's kind of like single mothers.
I think.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Yeah, he's always been about Yes.
Speaker 11 (13:02):
He's done some good work, so it's nice.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
He did a baby shower for single mother That's right,
that's what he did last week.
Speaker 11 (13:09):
So it's nice to see him.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Good job. O woo sah.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
And this Sunday is the one thousandth game in Cowboys history.
We have a list that Kurt will review and we'll
see if we agree with the list and see maybe
one of us in this room is on that list.
Could it be Jesse Holly.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Let's not be.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
We'll see when we come back.
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Speaker 11 (16:04):
I'm kind of surprised this isn't getting more interest.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
That's a lot, right, that's a lot of games.
Speaker 11 (16:10):
Only a handful of teams have reached that many. So yeah,
it's pretty cool. But I don't know if you guys
have seen Dallas Morning News, they did a pretty cool
uh story, just a list of the top one hundred
players in Cowboys history.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
So yeah, that's a shout out to the folks that
did that. Yeah, I don't know if I necessarily agree
with this list.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Oh there's a lot of Yes, that list is and.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
There's some names, like there's some the people who were
doing this list. It's like Brad Sham, Yeah, there's top
Walking Like it's it's some people who've been arounding for
a while.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I'm like, lists are tough, though, man.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Like I don't like yeah, but it's like there's those
games in this list.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
You're like, wait, he was wet Nober.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
What right?
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Who's in front of him?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Give me some give me some suspect ones, Kurt.
Speaker 11 (16:53):
The couple that stood up to me was like john
nyland is sixty second or seventies or something like that.
He was a six time Pro Bowler and or some
three time All Pro. You know, he's way down. I
think having both George Andre and and.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Was the other guy's name you had a list.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, I got the list, but they had like to me,
they had like they had t O. They had Alvin
Harper and I know that he won super Bowls, but
they're not better receivers than Dez Bryant. No, like they
had des way back.
Speaker 11 (17:26):
I was like, Kevin Smith is on the list, No
disrespect to him. Yeah, I'm surprised he's the top. He's
fifty ninth. You know, there's there's just but that's part
of the fun of it. You know. I thought Tony
Hill was ninety eight. I thought he would be ranked enough.
So he's one of the top receivers in the in
the league. So yeah, there's there's some interesting But that's
(17:50):
Jethropus the other kind of think when he both him
and Andre being behind DeMarcus Lawrence, I think is kind
of ridiculous. They have far more sacks and than Lawrence did.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Were you on the list?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I was not on the list.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I wasn't on the list. Jesse on the list.
Speaker 11 (18:04):
Jesse was not on the list.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's Chris on the list. No, no, his native number.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Right, we'll go, you know what, man top fifty.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
That's why I don't like the error game. You know,
the great this and great that, uh.
Speaker 12 (18:26):
We played in our different eras, whether it's you go
about ten year or five years. You know, it's been
too many great players and uh and what they meant
for their teams, doing their era, doing their span of
playing time. You know that, you know, and in the
nine time out of ten, the people that are doing
this they mean well, but they ain't gonna never get
(18:49):
it right. I won only be able to get it
right because you can't tell this man that dead is
when who he is in his era, and you couldn't
tell us that we every week were coming as you like,
we talked about this invisible guy, this guy that's gone.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Now.
Speaker 12 (19:04):
That's how dads was every week, whether he did something good,
bad or indifferent, every week, dad's dad's dads.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
So for eight years it was dad's dad's dads. You know.
Speaker 12 (19:16):
But when Drew played, you know, and Tony played, it
was about so you know, you know, you know, Brad
is spanning over all of those years. But you know,
when I was coming up, you couln't tell nobody, you know,
way Bobby at five third, you know what's her top five?
Speaker 11 (19:36):
There's two long snap long snappers on this list.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
That tells you, yeah, LP, they got LP, lot of LP.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Yeah, and I was a team at LP.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
I like LP.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I don't think LP is the one hundred like one hundred.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
One penalty in thirteen years.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Listen, it's pretty solid. Let's be honest and see that
that is the you know, uh, I think a lot.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
It's same with the Hall of Fame, who you're friends with,
who you can persuade if a player, if a player
is not good enough, player is not there, now you
gotta fight.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Okay, he was a.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
Friend of mine and he was this and come on, man,
come on, believe it or not, we had a kicker.
I'm talking about this previous kicking. Now remember last year.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Oh man, sixty seven, fifty eight. Well, guess what y'all
don't see some fifty eight some six.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
That's the norm now, So the you know what I
kicker is he's just another guy now that should be
kicking at the end of the half of a game
winning field goals. But if he kicking sixty dollars just
to keep us from having being down two scores, you
in trouble anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
What's your top five?
Speaker 11 (20:53):
Kurt Stallback obviously number one, Larry Allen number Two's that's
nice recognition. Bob Bloody three and that's four. Chuck Halley
was five. I thought that was a little high for him.
Uh mel Renfro sixth, Randy White seventh, or to put
him above Holly Tony Dor said eight, Troy Ickman ninth,
the Marcus ware was tenth.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So they didn't they didn't ask for your input.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
They did not.
Speaker 12 (21:19):
Man, The thing is, man, what was the list? How
many guys are on the list?
Speaker 11 (21:24):
One hundred?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Know how many guys? Was two hundred guys?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
He was picked in front every every every every single one,
every cowboy.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Come everybody ain't great?
Speaker 11 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Everybody?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Everybody ain't great.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
When I when I when I call a name, it's
a yes or no, it ain't well. Did I smoke au?
Did I go to a cigar bar with him a
couple of times? Did I hang out around? Did we
ride on the train together before the airplane?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Come on, man, he's the king of taking shots. Come
man without taking shots, you know, because we all know.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Oh my thing is.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I'm glads to come rup. What's wrong up by that?
Speaker 12 (22:10):
If that's the case, man, I invited to the White
House and got two more points up.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Come on, now.
Speaker 11 (22:17):
Danny White was ahead of both Stack and Tony.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
So he played two positions.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
So he was a five time NFC guy NFC I
think he was three or four times in the NFC
Championship game. Never won any of them, never won on
any of.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Them, and we and we crucified this guy.
Speaker 12 (22:36):
Now we're dying and begging to get to the NFC
Championship Game.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
It's just the era you played there. He followed, don't
follow the man.
Speaker 12 (22:45):
He followed Roger stock back, don't follow the man, Tommy.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Yeah. I mean you can punt all, you follow all
you want. You know, we need third dollar complete.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
They asked this question on one O five three the
the day.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
I thought it was a really good question. Where how
would you rank the eighty eights? How would where would
you put them? Mike Drew Dave's CD like, how.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
We're going to start with the receiver them from where? Where?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
How where would you put him? I thought that was
a pot in the pumps because you could make a case.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Like one and two could be interchangeable, two and three
could be interchangeable, two through four could be in it because.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
You got to you got to put in not on
the era, because I can make so much. Uh, for
the first two eighty eights, the passing was not number one.
Passing was not number one. So everything you got it
you had to make the most just off of that
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case right there, and it was a lot more physical.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know because dads went
seeking it.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
So we're talking about just athletes.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Just just that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Ever, like des is the best eight of the eighty
eights currently right now, Like he was the most dominant
eighty eight that he played.
Speaker 16 (24:12):
You know what I thought when CD, I know we
were past it, But when CD stretched out for that ball,
I was like, Dez makes that catch nine point nine
out of ten times, like.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
That has his ball.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Like again, we're always it's it's you're right errors and
you play the recency bias. But you know, I wasn't
around for Drew Pearson all right.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I was a young young boy around Michael Irvin.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I saw up closing personal des and I'm watching up
close and personal now CD. At the end of it all,
CD will be the best eighty eight at the end
of it all, when it's all set and done, breaking news.
When it's all set and done, the numbers, like he
don't get the championships, his numbers will be better. I
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think he's gonna have. He's gonna have. He's gonna have
in the next couple of years one of those dominant
three four year runs where he's one of the best
receivers in the league. But he's gonna he's gonna lap
in far as catches and yards those before him.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
This is one thing I can say about CD that
the other eighty eights had. But the CD is my
CD can break runs. I don't see how as why
everybody does it. I don't see how he makes some
of these catches and take the CD is the biggest
to me.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
The biggest of all the other playmakers.
Speaker 14 (25:39):
He is.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
He's special. Man, he's special.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
But man, Dees had to run bro where he just
was so dominant.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
He was so big, he was like, go get the
ball out.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He would fight you.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
He had a three year run, but he was the
most dominant receiver in this league. It was, and it
was it was unique to wid and it was also
a reminder, and I don't say this in a disrespectful manner,
but he didn't work at it like he didn't work
at Fitzgerald.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
He just was.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
He didn't fish Gerald.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
No, like he just a lot of times he just
showed up like he just was, like what time game
is at three? Were supposed to be at three out
before I'll be the point. I'll be the twenty five
minutes fourth time ago. I'll be ready twenty five minutes,
four time ago.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
And just can you imagine if he took care of
his body the way Jerry Rice did and then he
Fitzgerald and then he studied and knew the game like.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Fitzgerald probably put Michael over him. Yeah, because.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
I wish i'd have been a little bit older and
had more football knowledge.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Back when you guys played, to be able to appreciate,
Like I knew what football was. I'd watch it, but
I didn't understand the game like I do now. I
wish all those battles y'all have with the forty nine ers,
like I understood what football was and not just watching
it on TV.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I'm gonna tell you about dead.
Speaker 12 (27:06):
I'm saying in my mind some of the routes I
saw him run, and I said, this, dude didn't run
the right route because.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
He'll see something himself and he'll look back in there
to Tony and Dan's doing this. I'm like, you can't
be running the right route. He'll be like him.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Had a great way.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
They used to improvise a lot of stuff, but it
was it was special to watch him. But like I
watched CD now and I'm just like, I'm I literally
watched it and I'm just like, dude, this special. And
and Mike, Mike was just so polarizing. He's the most
polarizing before, right.
Speaker 11 (27:45):
Yeah, the mental side of it, I would think more
than any of them. I mean, just that constantly working.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
And the mental toughness.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
I'm gonna get it all around the mental Mike, because
like I said, now, I've seen him.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Did you ever see Mike getting taken out of a game.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
Nah, I've seen us purposely allow it to be done.
We was playing Atlanta and we was playing against Dion
and and and Mike said, Okay, if y'all if y'all
scared of dun I'm gonna go along with it.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
But Alvin, you other guys, Kmart, Dona Jay.
Speaker 12 (28:23):
We lost that game, man, and I had to hit
get cussed out coming back on the plane.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
The whole y'all heard me tell I did get cussed.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Out the whole.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
I'm like, Mike, if you want to say something, Detroit,
he too said. But I'm telling you we never done
it again, no matter who we played.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
We never took Mike out of the game.
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Because if you told Mike, Okay, this is the route
you out to run, this guy's acceptable for this. Mike
was gonna have Troy out there. Man, we gotta run
this about five time. And mikeauld be running things so fast, man,
like it's in the game, getting prepared. He dropped a
ball in practice. It ain't gonna make it to the
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game because Troy be like he just knew.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
He just looking like.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
We get it out of the practice.
Speaker 12 (29:13):
We get it out of practice because Jimmy don't want
to practice to keep going that Mike. But now route
running and scheming, Drew has to be the best at that.
Because coach Landri kept a lot of motions, a lot
of movements, a lot of different plays. They like, they
was like the modern day, the modern day Patriots. A
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player moved two inches, the homle play changes. So you
got to be you know, you got to be smart
and you got to be on the move. And that's
what Drew has with a set of hands. Because they
had golden riches. They had Tony Hill, they had him,
and they had one other guy. If you slipped, Roger
was going somewhere else.
Speaker 11 (29:54):
He was tough too.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Yeah, so where would you where would you put him?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Just in order?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
What would your order be?
Speaker 7 (30:01):
It's gonna be hard on.
Speaker 12 (30:02):
Jess Man's unsettled again, just just overall like body of work, talent.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
He's gonna Super Bowls going there.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, so you gotta go. I mean I would go,
Mike does, Mike does Drew CD with.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
CD climbing quickly getting there.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Yeah, I would go, Mike does.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Who is the best slant runner? Dres of Mike?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
That's come on, come on, Mike.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bruh. Mike didn't care
who was that linebacker, who was that safety? He knew
how he I remember him telling him that, Daz, quit
leading with your head. You gotta see what the set
up is, DEAs. But you can either get it with
your hands, cradle it with your body talk.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But Daz wasn't trying to catch it with his body.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Everything with his hands well, and that's one of the
contact he wanted, like he he would absorb that and
bounce out the opposite way.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, I'm man.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Das was so he was so physical man and and
so strong.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
It was just I just man, I wish, I wish,
I wish I was older in in the sense of
like come here, like you know what I'm saying, Like
I was older, but I wasn't. Yeah, like I was
just I was just trying to find my way.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I'm like, man, listen, which I need me to do,
but to be like come here, like let's go, because
he could have been he could have been world class.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
It was two years too short.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Yeah, there was nothing more exciting than then Tony throwing
the long ball and there's one on one and watching
him go up and like you.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Talk about you talk about Michael Irving and the bang
eight Like then I'll go out, faith, I go out.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I'll volley right back to you with poetry.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Nobody ran the backs of Tree better than those two.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
You knew it was coming.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Everyone was coming.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Everyone couldn't stop it.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Cash was like off and waiting for it. Couldn't stop it,
could not stop it. So for every bang eight, give
me give me that back show to favorite that Tony
that that Yeah, yeah, Tony, Tony and Tony and Dez
had that that that that that was their equal to.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Did they practice that? Yeah, they put a lot of way.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (32:29):
See the thing about it, Dad's we're gonna get ran down.
At least I didn't think he was getting run down.
But Mike, anything over sixty yards, it was a shot
shot five.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
I used to hate that. Let's do this thing forty
yards and.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
How would you break them?
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Kurt?
Speaker 11 (32:49):
I think the same. I think Michael's still up there.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I would.
Speaker 11 (32:52):
I think it's a close third with Drew just because
of the resume, but talent wise, that is clearly better. Yeah,
and then see the just you.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Know doesn't ten years from now. Man, he's electrifying, man,
he is electrifi what would be I don't rank. I
just told you I don't do arrows, man, because.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
You the same thing that he said soon as he
when I mentioned Drew, he.
Speaker 17 (33:16):
Don't.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
I don't do rankings, man, I just don't.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't pick scores and I don't do rankings.
Speaker 18 (33:21):
Man.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
No, I don't pick Cowboys score. But Jackson moved. I
thought was gonna win last night.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, we're gonna ask you you think it's gonna win
Sunday the game. We know we're not gonna get answer,
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Speaker 7 (36:25):
What what what?
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What's what's up with with our guy Marrafoul? What? What
is what?
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Lewis? Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Why can't we get him on the field?
Speaker 9 (36:36):
He graded high with PFF this week right for his
six six snaps.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
He's I'm supposed to see more than year.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I thought he was on the I thought he was
on the rise, yes.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Like thirty snaps last year. So I don't know what
do we what's going on with coaches?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I guess a coach came in and said, Sam Bourne,
you're my guy. And then the coach came in and said,
you know what, I like that guy, Kenneth Murray, you're
my guy. And then now he left on the porch.
He got left on the porch, but he's working his
way back on.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Off the porch.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
And so I think you'll see more from Mariss Uh
this Sunday.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
And again, we.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Boy, we are, we are we two weeks, we are
two weeks ining like we are, we are, we are,
we are a society at once. This ain't week twelve
like now. They look at it and they go back,
give them a moment to self evaluate and say, you
know what, maybe we could use a little bit more Mariss,
Maybe we couldn't you know this and that? So we'll
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see this week.
Speaker 12 (37:44):
Coach is who he say he is, and he's about competition.
He's about doing things right and a player is not performing,
he's he's saying, I'm gonna give you your opportunity is coming.
And I know fans don't have to be patient, and
I thank you to be not not paying the prices
that y'all paid. But the guys that create all this
(38:05):
content have a living of logic to what you're saying,
because you're leading and Coff fans should be way smarter
than this.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
You don't think so I said something wrong.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Shout out to my God, Jeff from.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Yeah, you created a storm for Jesse this week. You
got Virginia New York giving us your New.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
York give I don't always give the common sense common
sense credit a lot of folks out there because.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
A lot of folks don't have it.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
A lot of folks don't have If you've ever worked retail,
you know a lot of folks don't have it.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
So, Jesse, what is your what is your stat to
watch this week?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
For me, my stat to watch this week is the
slot receiver for the New York Football Giants. If this
thing gets competitive, it's going to be because because gonna
have a plan for elite neighbors. When you remember, you
you get your your playbook, defensive playbook, Offensive playbook. They
got God Circle, they got God started the first page
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you open up, this is who we're looking out for
this week and for them it's going to be Elie Neighbors.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
That's gonna be the guy that they look at.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Milik Neighbors twenty receptions in the last two games that
he's played against the Dallas Cowboys. But where they're going
to have to make sure with the absence now of
d ron Bland. Remember when they went to eleven Personneldron
Blank kicked inside. He was playing the Wandelle Robinson's of
the worlds. Now you don't have dron Bland, You're not
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gonna move digs inside. Carrie Elan is not gonna move inside.
Now you're gonna have a guy moved in there. Maybe
it's Juan Ye that coach talked about. Reddy Stewart is
a guy they're talking about, is gonna get those those
snaps on the inside. Wandelle Robinson is a shifty, quick,
little you know, little jitterbug. You know he now you
see him, now you don't. And if they can get
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him the ball of space with the young guy who
doesn't have much experience, he can, really he can.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
He can wreak some habits.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Keep on third downs, that's where you got to watch
out for Rondelle Robinson. Robinson on third down If Rondelle
Robinson has more than sixty five receiving yards and a touchdown,
this game will look a lot different going into the
fourth quarter for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
You noticed he didn't say they win the game. He
ain't giving the Giants.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
It looks a lot fourth quarter You.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
Say, you no, say Wandale Robinson real fast, five towns.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
You know they should be ready to come down here.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Lack of offenseve line boy?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah all right, Kurt? Yeah, how are you feeling about
the game? Lines? Five and a half? Cowboys are getting
or giving up five and a half at home.
Speaker 11 (40:52):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
What's your scoring?
Speaker 11 (40:54):
Giants are just so bad?
Speaker 10 (40:56):
Yeah, they don't if they don't win this one, and
it's gonna be a tough week.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Oh and four, here we come Owen City. I believe.
Speaker 11 (41:05):
Yeah, I'm giving it to the Cowboys.
Speaker 10 (41:07):
Like twenty thirteen, twenty high scoring game for Kurt thirteen
twenty to thirteen, Chris, what you got this week?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
I'm gonna go thirty two seventeen, thirty two seventeen. What's
Josh got back? There is Josh playing with us this year?
Speaker 14 (41:28):
Ate?
Speaker 4 (41:29):
What you got?
Speaker 9 (41:29):
Thirty eight thirty four to thirteen, thirty four thirteen, Nate
by one, Nate by how many?
Speaker 12 (41:35):
The thing that's amazing to me, the things that is
amazing to me is it's one thing that makes UH
New York bad, and it's a key thing. It's the
offensive line. If they had just an average offensive line
just could block sixty percent of the time, we wouldn't
be talking this way about now. So I'm thinking that
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they will improve just a degree. So because at first
I had us win in by seven, but I think
they'll get two points better.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
So we went in by five about five. I know
how we get there.
Speaker 9 (42:11):
But hey, I'm gonna drink Jesse's kool aid and Nates,
I think, but I think they're gonna put up a
few points. I'm gonna go Giant seventeen, Cowboys twenty.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You know what? How about Cowboys thirty four?
Speaker 14 (42:26):
Cool?
Speaker 12 (42:27):
So what will it at home? So this is I'm
putting it on you. So the pickings watch? How many
catches would he get this?
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Four?
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Oh, let's let's do that. That'd be a fun game.
Speaker 7 (42:41):
Watch.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
You're gonna go all the fa catches or targets, catches.
Speaker 12 (42:44):
How many targets, how many catch targets? Will catches targets
and catches targets.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
He'll get about about seven. Okay, you know the four catches,
but one of those are we a forty plus yard of.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Though, Jesse go seven, four for seven? What you got, Kurt?
Speaker 11 (42:58):
I'll say.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
Four for five, okay, Kurt, four for five? All right, Nate,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Coach Shottenheimer told y'all this is why I always laugh
at what people say. I sometimes have to step out
and say things and I have to stand on it
and the way people come around to it. Coach shott
Heimers had it in the press conference either this morning
or yesterday. He was like, listen, CD's getting the ball early,
and often like that's just what it is. He said, well,
we got our play call. Shit, I got a spot
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for cde Lamb. It looks a little something like this,
and he said he probably has the bigger one.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
The ball's coming to CD Lamb. That's why people like,
oh they're two number ones. No it ain't no, it
ain't no.
Speaker 17 (43:45):
It is not amen, amen, and it's still CD Lamb
and then them God leave man. So George will get
some catches. He'll get seven targets, get four catches, and
you know, like I said, it'll want of those will
be a forty plus? Are there to be a splash play?
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Do I say every day that we number one? Show
we are? Okay, I better quit saying.
Speaker 9 (44:05):
I'm gonna go seven. I'm gonna think they're gonna sling it.
Eleven targets, seven catches.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Wow, Oh, big time super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Let's go, Jesse. What is your more, Lionel score man?
Speaker 11 (44:17):
More and less than.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
I think CD gets fourteen targets this game. I think
they're gonna sling it.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Okay, he's breaking put their foot on the net. Yeah
this one man?
Speaker 5 (44:28):
Uh from the moment I put the tape on the Cowboys,
no question saying all I've been saying it all weekend.
The only thing that football we all know. She's a
She's a very very very fickle lady. And depending on
what time of the week, I how the ball bout,
she can turn either way.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
She ain't lorded nobody.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Everybody got a shot.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
The Cowboys would have to turn the ball over at
an outstanding rate for this dude football game. They would,
they they honestly they would. And you look at all
the records you know they got this will if they
win this game, will be fourteen in a row. DAK
is sixteen to one the last couple of years. You know,
since twenty twenty one, Ceedee Lamb has six hundred and
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fifty yards and five touchdowns. DAK has like fourteen touchdowns
and three interceptions, and I think like fourteen hundred yards.
But it's the Cowboys have literally owned it should be
the New York Football Giant Cowboys because the Cowboys have
owned them.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
And this is no different this week.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
It's no different this week unless the Cowboys turn the
ball over crazy and I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Give me twenty eight to twelve the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Well four field goals.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
Yeah, it's come. I'm telling y'all like that.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
When you see the offensive line, it's it's a bad
offensive line. It is a bad offensive line.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
Do you think they can get better?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
I mean they it can't get no worse.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
It don't get no worse. So you know, sometimes you
know you can't count things twice right just because you
ain't tried, that don't mean you good. You know what
I'm saying, So they can get a little bit better.
Than trash, but even trash is still Wow.
Speaker 12 (46:09):
You can't be tried. You can't be tried for the
same murder, big murdering quarterback.
Speaker 9 (46:18):
I thought that interesting, real quick, real quick, most receptions
in a game by Dallas Cowboys would be eighteen Jason
Whitten verse the Giants.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Wow the little stat there, Chris ten twenty nine to
twenty twelve.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
Wow, thanks for that stating Manes all right.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Just good stuff, Nate, good stuff, Kurt, good stuff.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
Thanks for the list, Chris, thanks for keeping us on
the air, Josh, thanks for keeping the company. We'll be
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