October 2, 2025 • 46 mins
The Cowboys are not only facing another mobile quarterback this week in Justin Fields, they may be facing the best one. So is it better to keep containment than actually go for the sack? We’ve also heard a lot about communication in the secondary, but is communication between the defensive line and linebackers even more important this week? And about those injuries ...
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I like it vintage. How you doing, Kurt good Man,
you're good.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, Jesse, I'm good Man, I'm recharged. We do have
to get a shot. Yeah, we do have to give
a shout out.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We do.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
This is this is a mustle you two guys haven't
heard it yet. I'll play it for you later on.
But we got to give a shout out to our
guy Mo uh Mo from Kuwait. Mos dealing with some
health issues right now. So Mo, we want to let
you know brother that we we are thinking about you.
We're praying for you. And and Mo said he's gonna
take this thing head on like it's an ankle spring,
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So you know he just guys, keep Mo from Kuwait
in your prayers.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Mo.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We want to let you know, man, you are hanging
with the boys. We don't have this show without great
fans like you. So from me, from Kurt, from Nate,
from Chris and the back from Shannon. Brother man, we
we we love you, man, and we're thinking about you.
Keep fighting this thing get better each and every day, man,
and we're gonna make sure that we hold it down.
And and he says, uh that he's gonna he's gonna
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beat this thing. And he said he's he's he's gonna
take you up on that offer, that cross country trip.
Said he gonna you know, he's gonna pay for everything,
said he's gonna pay for for the guys, for the lodging,
for everything. He said, he not, he said, not buying,
you know, a souvenir. He said, he's not buying you
a souvenir. He said, because you're not gonna get some
two thousand dollars pair of boots and me walking around
on him like you don't know they're two thousand dollars
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like the sneakers that you got that you don't even
know about it, he said. But he's gonna, he said,
you guys are gonna drive to New York City and
they're gonna fly me in the Jersey and then y'all
gonna drive by and pick me up off.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The porch and close in the story and then.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Closed finally coach the chapter in that story. So mo, brother,
we are thinking of you. You are you are in
our thoughts, you are in our prayers each and every day. Man,
get better, get well, and we look forward to seeing
you here in Dallas healthy, my brother, God bless you.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, sir, get better.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Move Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
All right, we had a lot to cover today because
we held back for you. Jesse should come, thank you.
But there's something This may take. This may take half
a minute, This may take a whole segment because Nate
will probably tune us out as soon as I bring
it up. But we have to acknowledge our kicker. I know,
we talk about it and we think he's great. What
happened today, Kurt, something happened.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, his head Special Teams Player of the Month for September.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And that's the fourth time in his career, his career.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
You send their homeschool and their kid.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
So my question to you guys is there's another one.
He's gonna get paid.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He checked out out already.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Right, Yeah, he'll get paid.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
He's gonna get paid. Somebody's gonna pay him. This is
the last year of his deal, and currently it was.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A mixed diverse school.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was a very mixed diversity.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You see how he's just completely work Okay, the kicker,
the kicker, he is very special, right, isn't the time
we need him?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
It is to win our time?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But no, I disagree because the way he's been this
new kickoff rule. He's been nailing these new kickoffs and
putting them on the twenty instead of the thirty five.
So not only is he scoring you points, he's.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Just giving us more agony because that a touchdown coming
from a longer way.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So I questioned, y'all, I know how Nate feels about this.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But he's a weapon, man, Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
He is a weapon, Yes he is.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Right now, Kurt looked us up, Harrison. Butker, the chiefs
kicker has a four year, twenty five point six million
dollar deal. And I know you don't normally pay kickers,
and I don't think you would do more than three
years for a kicker because they one wire gets crossed
and you know they're done.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Maybe you do a four year deal.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But what what's his if he hits the market, what
is the market going to be for him? Is he
maybe the first eight, nine million, ten million dollar kicker
in the league.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And Brandon always respects women way more than Bucker does.
So yeah, that's a mix. He's cleaned so far. So far,
that to the mix. But like, I mean, like we.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
See that big a job, but.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What's that value now, especially if they keep this kickoff
rule that's a big fifteen yards starting position is a
big deal and he's nailing that almost every single kick.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Not only that, but with the with a new way, and.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Vic Fangiel from the Philadelphia Eagles talked about this in
the press conference the other day, with the way now
that the kickers are able to work these balls.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That didn't come out right.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Okay, we know we know what these footballs and just
they don't they don't have God.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So what did you do.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
On your off day clearing your mind on your off day?
I thought you was clearing your mind.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yee, my game day this one day and I'm off
my game man, godang dingg. But you know he said that,
you know, he says that all he said soon he
feels like he'll be a kicking seventy yarder. And so
when you have that level of confidence in your back,
pocket with the kicker that that helps you. That helps
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you in a lot of football games where if you
get to fifty yard line that you have a really
good chance of adding points on the board. And in
these in these tightly contested gains, you always want to
have that one advantage, right. Sometimes it may be your quarterback,
it may be your run game, it may be your receiver,
it may be off it's online, but this is one
of those things that it's like car insurance, right, It's
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literally like car insurance. You never, you know, you never
think about having car insurance. Car insurance never crosses your mind.
It cal you don't count every single month right until
you need it, until you absolutely need it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And now you want to be able to go.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Oh yeah, I got car insurance for that boom. That's
what That's what Brendon Aubrey is. He is the insurance
for you when everything else is going wrong around you
that that right now has become a sure thing for
this Cowboys offensively.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now we can move on, what would you pay a
kicker though? Whatever he wants, That's what I'm saying. That's
the question.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Jesse normally answers the question like a long way of nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Whatever dollar more.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm whatever he's gotten.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And and by the way, his agent is Todd France,
so that's Dak Prescott's agent. So he's gonna have the
highest quarterback paid in the league. Is gonna have the
highest kicker in the league. But Terry's gonna be dealing
with some sharks now. They every age they deal with
now went over. They they want their client has top
of the market ability.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
M hmmmm hmm. All right, what do we want to
jump into?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Got a lot of ground to cover where we want
to go first?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Well, I just well, hold on, man, what.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Jesse can you share with us yesterday? Oh, I'm gonna
talk about the Jets?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Talk about just that hurts me, Kurt, where you want
to say, he ain't gonna tell y'all. I'm going he
told me a secret, so I gotta keep it a secret.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
That's hurt it's a first Yeah, wow, gonna stop this time.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The only time you keep a secret is if somebody
calls you one on one.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
If it's in the group text, it's fair game us.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
But he called me a secret, So I like, sir,
get us go where you will go?
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Kirt, Well, before we get too deep into the Jets.
What are we gonna do about this offensive line? Got
all these questions, all these overtime games we're playing?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Is it taking a toll?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Now, it's just that that's bad luck. It's just bad luck.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Concussion and look like he's gonna play Turpens looks like
he's gonna be out.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Smith's gotta knee.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Didn't practice, But Turpin doesn't playoff insive line, Kurt.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You going that anybody.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
He knew?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
I think I got that much down.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Do we have enough people to start?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yes we do, Yes we do. We got Nate Thomas
and uh. The thing is I always like for the
anchor guy, which is our left tackle, Titler's left guard,
Title Smith. They say he's a little banged up and
nicked up. Now that's when I get worried. You always
need that dog on the line to keep everybody because
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you look over there like it used to be for
you know, for Big it was us Big E. You know,
we'll look over there Big and we get our strength.
You know, we'll get our ugliness from Big E. So
as long as we got that left guard, and now
I think we're gonna be all right, you know, so
that is my big question guiding They'll put Nate Thomas in,
you know, but we can't have we can't lose. Still,
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then we don't. Yeah, we won't have it. I don't
know who comes out for.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That, Hakeem Yeah. Yeah, and then his backups hurt.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, so we we we we're down to the bottom
of the barrel. Man. They're not saying that in the
barrel is bad because uh they they love some Nate Thomas.
These people love some Nate Thomas. So all we gotta
do is make sure he know how to get up
on the offensive line and we should be all right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And let me also say this. This may not come
as a.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Thing that's really a big story, but to the point
of the offensive line, if you're going to be without
multiple offensive lineman, you're now talking about having backups up.
You got to have enough offensive lineman. So you Trevor Keegan,
They're probably gonna have to bring him up depending on
how that happens. Right, So that's another jersey to that
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goes to a backup offensive lineman because you.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Don't know what you're have in this game.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So where would now if you give him a jersey,
somebody else and I know that we've talked about maybe
Jaden Blue probably getting to start this week. Where where
does that other jersey come from? What guys are going down,
what guys are coming up? So this is that's one
of those storylines that you have to look at because
of all these injuries heading into this week.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And to add to what he's saying, they ain't taking
it away from defense because they need everage jersey they
can get, So it ain't come. So it's gonna be
an offensive guy that they shift around, because I'm serious,
because the defense ain't. It ain't like our secondary is
equally injured as well as our offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So and the red Kurt is injured? Yes? Yes? Or out?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Is it just they show up on the injury either
rookie it's injurying rookies is the red okay?
Speaker 10 (12:51):
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It's colorful sheet now. So we're gonna get to the
Jets or anything else Jets you would like to share
with us.
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You just get it out, Just get it out in
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their quarterback because we've we've had some issues with mobile
quarterbacks that can break the pocket down and escape, and
this guy is probably wanted, probably Lamar and then everybody else.
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But he's at the top of that second group. And
what do you see in him?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Jesse?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And how much trouble I don't. I don't think are
we going to have trouble? As the question how much
trouble are we going to have? Is he looking at
a seventy eighty yard rushing day.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
If you're not, if you're not sound easily easily Because
here's the thing about justin fields the Jets quarterback is
he's not going to I went and looked in his
entire career. It's not a long career, but as an
entire career, he only has I believe four games of
two hundred and fifty yards or more passing in his
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entire career right now.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean he's been in the league, what four years?
Three years?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
This is four or five because he's then there, did
a couple of years in Chicago, then he went to
Pittsburgh and now this is year one is rookie year,
so fifth year, so this is fifth year. So this
is not a guy who's going to wow you with
his arm right now. He can throw the ball, but
he's not he to me, he's an athlete playing quarterback.
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He's not a quarterback who's athletic. Okay that that there's
a there's a difference in those two scenarios. And for
Justin Fields is yes, he'll throw the goal ball and
he has a really good receiver in Garrett Wilson, who
I'm a fan of. But I'm not worried about him
doing that. What I'm worried about is the RPOs And
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if there's any level of communication that needs to be
had for the Cowboys, I don't believe it's in the
back end. It's when we break the defensive huddle. The
second the first and second level defenders for the Cowboys
should all understand and know who has the quarterback like
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that has to be number one when they break the huddle.
Sam Boys shouldn't be asking Murray. Murray shouldn't be asking
Leah foul LEA Foule shouldn't be asking everybody knowing those
first and second levels, no matter what happens in this play,
who's responsible for the quarterback? Because if you lose him,
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he's gone. He is out of there. And I know
for a fact it's not a linebacker on that we
have right now be able to catch them, not one.
And this might be the game you might have to
go tell Jack samon On, Hey brother, it's not you,
it's not your fight.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, we might need to go a little faster.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But what get What makes it difficult with Justin Fields
is their personnel because they will go twelve personnel twenty
one personnel. So it means that you have to keep
your base package out there. It's not like when you
go Nickel or dime when they're going three or four
wide receivers where you bring the smaller guys in and
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now you can bring a smaller linebacker an that's when
the lee fi if you if.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Your base package is.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It's Sam Borne and Murray because that is going with
how they send out their personnel. Because they're going to
run the football. You better you better learn how to
tackle within this week.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
You can't tackle the way you tackled against Green Bay.
They're going to run the football. Uh, Breecee Hall. They
lost their other running back, number zero to a knee injury.
He's going on ir but Breese Hall, They're going to
run the football. They're gonna run it right, they're gonna
run it left, They're gonna run a lot. They're gonna
use that to play play action again. They want to
get Justin Fields out the pocket. They want to roll them.
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They don't want him standing. You know statue su as
a defense defense, you want him in the pocket. So
when you're rushing Justin Fields, you're better off allowing him
to stay in the pocket and you not getting the sack.
Then you go on further sack and missing it, missing it,
and now he comes out the back door, or he
creeps through a lane and guys have they back turn,
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and now he's off for.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Forty five yards down the football field.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
So for for Justin Fields, it's keep him in the pocket,
and then understand who is assigned to the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
If they're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Spy, if they're going however they decide to do it,
everybody should know when they break the huddle, who's responsible
for number seven. I don't think he can truly hurt
you with this arm. He can he can kill you
if you allow him to get mobile and be outside
the pocket and break and containment. So that's when you
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have guys like you know, I know that we want
to rush up the field, but you got to kind
of almost you have to. You have to rush in
such a way that he you don't overrun him, you
don't give him a lane. He's looking for a lane.
He's looking for a way to get out of there,
trying to escape. If you keep him in the pocket,
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you have a much better chance, especially if eber Fuz
wants to run his own defense. Make him have to
throw through three or four or five or six guys.
Like that's the part where you have to, like make
justin fields play the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Don't let him be an athlete.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
They have somebody spying in each player necessarily, or.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You can I mean that that would be a plan
that I would have in the in the in the
in the playbook, like no, no, no, yeah, having a
spy would definitely be a plan. But now it's who's
a spy. They even tried, they tried to use a thing.
It was for the Giants. They tried to use Sam
Williams as a spot. Not a good choice, not against
this guy. Not a good choice. Now, you know you
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talk about wishing you had a guy, Now would be
time that you wish she had agent zero. You wish
you had a guy like Damorron Overshown who can go
out and run sideline on the sideline. But this sounds
like it's an assignment for a guy like Damon Clark,
a guy like Maris Leafoul to get that opportunity to
go out there and be a spy. Or or if
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you decide to run it in a situation where because
they they've done this a little bit where they're running
these inverted coverages and that they've used like Reddy Stewart.
Sometimes it kind of be that he's not a linebacker,
but he's like the star player, so he's playing that
hook curl area and maybe if you want to bring
another But that's where it gets difficult because if they
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got big personnel out there and you're trying to have
a guy, a smaller, quicker, faster guy, trying to have
him out there for the RPO situ for a spying situation, well,
now you got the small dude that has to go
up against a big blocking tight end or a pulling
guard or you know what I mean. And that's just
where it gets a little bit at a disadvantage for
you upfront. You gotta win with your four guys up front.
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But those guys have to understand we are formulating a cup.
You hear coach Eban flu talk about tackling the cup method,
where one guy's coming from the inside, one guy's coming
from the outside. We're setting this cup or this.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Cone around the ball carrier. This is how you have
to rush him.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
You have to rush him in a cone, in a cup,
keeping him in the pocket, not giving him seams and
ways out there. You kind of like almost gotta kind
of rush and kind of just play it like rush
and play it and then late hands if he had
to tie to throw the ball because you start getting
out of your lanes. I'm telling you, he will kill
you with his legs.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Twenty four carries one hundred and seventy eight yard seven
point four average. His longry's been forty three. He's got
three tds. He's averaging fifty nine yards. Again, Aim, she's
fumbled once, but he's got ten first downs. This kid
like everything just I can't add on to what he's saying.
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If you even even like when we played, they would
tell a guy who's who's out of control? Like Charles, Charles,
you Charles we needed We need you to do this.
Even if you get a quick escape, you beat your guy,
he totally miss you. You have to get back in
your lane. You have to get back in your lane
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because a lot of times when a guy get a
quick escape, he's like I got this, and all of
a sudden, he just goes straight at the quarterback. This
quarterback here. When you rush him from the outside, you
have to aim for his middle, but play to the outside.
So if he fake you, he going back inside. And
I'm talking about from the end point of view, that's you.
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That's where you have help. As as two tackles. You
gotta go straight forward. You got a bull rush, and
if you got a directional rush where both tackles going
to the same side, you have to stay tight and
you have to rip and just stay tight, keep this
outside on free and make him go into your deep,
into your end. It's all about uniformity, it's all If
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you do not do this, this kid will hurt you.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's gotta be tough because that goes against everything you're
taught as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Rights, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, your assignment.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
But like when you're free, when you're like, okay, wait,
hang on, but I got to make sure I'm not
too far inside. I see.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
This is what separates us from the normal college guy.
Is the discipline that we have, like Green Bay discipline
you're supposed to have. Yeah, like green Bay. We me
and Jesse both saw the same thing. They are bringing
number two, I mean number seven, the linebacker. But everybody
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was in their lane. Everybody was in their lane. It's
just the on your personnel, the ability to think what's
up above the neck, how bad you want to stay
within the team concept. The better teams that win games
when they're playing equal or greater can do this. And
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this is a time where we have to do this
if we want to have a true shot at beating
this team. Do what the coach.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Asks you to do.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Now, when it comes to the spy, ain't nobody that
can dance with this kid unless you unless he's almost
like like a dB. Because our linebackers can't dance with
this kid. And I don't think they're giving Leb foul.
They for some reason, they not letting him play for
(25:47):
some reason. Hit next to Clark, he's the next you
know what I'm saying. So, but if they put him
in the game and let him play. We got it.
But anybody else, any other linebacker you think can run
with him.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Now you got to depend on Bail. But if they
see Bail, then Bryce Briee, then Bree's coming. Oh man,
remember him. That's run, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And that's the part where you know, that's why first
and down is so important, because you want to put
yourself in a position on third down that the distance
is far enough.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Where he can run for all the distance. You know,
he can run for all of them.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It could be third to thirteen, and if you give
him a scene, he'll run away from you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But more so that they have to go passing right.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
They can't have an option of you know, if it's
third and three, they just quarterback draw, quarterback run RPO
like that type of stuff. You want to keep out
of the equation because you now play you have to
play eleven on eleven football And this is actually it
just just hit me. This game would be it's gonna
be great practice and implementation for the next couple of
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games that you have because you got Bryce Young coming up,
you got Jaydon Daniels coming up, you got Kyler Murray
coming up. All these guys and quarterbacks, you kind of
need to keep in this pocket in this cup and
not allow them to kind of, you know, be maneuvering
and dancing around the pocket. So whatever game plan did
you run here, you know this should be good enough
to that I can carry over to next week when
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I play the Panthers, And we got to that when
I play the Commanders, and we got to that when
I play the Cardinals. So because they all have a
running style quarterback, a quarterback who if.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
You give him up, you give him a itch, he
will take a yard. What is it you're seeing?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Because stat wise through three games he hasn't thrown an
interception yet and he's got one hundred point one passer rating.
What what makes you not wear? Is he not going
down the field with it? So everything everything short.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
They're trying to run the football. They're trying to slow
the game down. Aaron, Aaron Glynn there there. They they
want to be a physical running football team. They want
to run the ball a lot, they want to control
the clock, and then they want to make play action throws.
You see a lot of throws out routes, quick routes.
They don't want that. That's been Justin Field's biggest problem
(28:07):
is that he runs into a lot of sacks because
he holds the football too long. Not because the offensive
line is always bad. It's because you hold the football
too long, and he doesn't like he relies on his athleticism.
So sometimes instead of him, you look at the way
Dak has and I did a breakdown on this morning,
just the way that Dak is working his way in
(28:29):
the pocket, not trying to get out of the pocket,
but just working hisself through the pocket and then delivering
the ball down the field. When the pocket looks a
squeamish bit erratic, for justin Fields, he's gone. And those
level of quarterbacks at times run themselves into sacks because
and they can tell you as an offensive lineman, if
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I know what the protection is, we call the protection
in the huddle, I know what the route is, I
know what my help is out. I know my help
is not at So I'm blocking a dude a certain way.
But if this quarterback is a is a runner and
he's all over the place, well I'm blocking according to
the protection. Sometimes young quarterbacks and athletic quarterbacks, they they
(29:12):
forget the protection and rely on athleticism. And now Nate
is like, well, my help is inside, so I'm gonna
dance when I'm over here. And now you all of
a sudden, you look and that dude.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Showed to feel.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You're like, where he going? But the quarterback wasn't inside
where he was supposed to be. He outside and out
You're like, you're like, and now everybody goes, god, damgn
they fat boy, and you gave up a sack and
they like, he't want to supos to run out here?
He supposed to be on the inside of me what
the protection called for?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
And that's where that's where you got to have a
great offensive line coach, because boy, you you walking with
your head down the office line coach said, hey, as
soon as you sit down. Hey, bro, we did the
protection got you. We did the protection. He needed to
be where he needed to be on this one. But
only time we'll get in trouble's quick escapes, right, and
that is what uh. If you get a quick escape,
(30:03):
get back in your lane. Remember early against Philadelphia, how
five beat the kid real quick and wetch card City
Like you just stay in your laid. He just took
off fifteen yards, you know, So we got to be
disciplined man. That's just eloquence spoken man.
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Speaker 1 (33:05):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Nice, Thanks Nate. What are we gonna do with Quinn Williams?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
How you stopping double team? Double team? Now you can?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I've seen people blocking one on one. I've seen that,
and I think that was just the place he was
taking off.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
To have anybody else on their D line to worry about.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Number number ninety seven is a load, but he kind
of plays to his own tune right now, he's got
if he stopped doing that and play within defense, Big
number ninety seven, give me give me his name.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Here, Harrison Phillips.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
If he played within the scheme, he could do some
damage because he'll walk if he get mad, he can walk.
You back on the top of that quarterback number seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Jay to a fee league. There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Uh, he is a little spark club. He's a little
spark pluger. He'll run around. They play a lot of
over and in their regular defense. And then when they're
regular first and ten second and uh five, Huh.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Over means where.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
The strength if your tight ends to the right, they
have an end over him tackle over the uh the
end over the tackle. They have a three technique and
a and a nose guard. Those three guys become then
they have a big gap over the guard, and then
they have a defensive end and they always kind of
playing that over. But what they'll do sometimes and what
(34:37):
I what I tried to figure out, was they'll slide
that guy that's that's over on the strong side over
the guard. They'll kind of slide to the inside eye
sometime uh to the outside eye, and they'll bring that
guard just slight that being that tackle on the on
the left guard slightly to the inside, and the kind
of look like a four man front that alonger the
(34:58):
distance of the past, they'll come more to even look.
But with the tackles over the guards playing shade it
and it'll look like over, but it won't be over.
And that's how we'll read it as a lion, because
we'll go from fifty one, I think it's the outside
linebacker in forty four is your middle, and that's where
(35:20):
we will be reading from when we're reading from the strength.
Like I said, the longer the past distance, because I
don't believe it's no more thing as third and long.
It makes it a passing down or second and long.
It's like when it's a past situation. They'll kind of
balance up. Now they will run a game here and there,
(35:41):
but not like we saw with Green Bay. They're blitz
a one guy but not like Green Bay. What coach
is trying to do Coach Glenn and coach Steve Wilks,
is they trying to just stay basic and see who
can play Now.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I heard.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Isaiah and asked Jested the same thing they say. On
the back end, they have changed depending on who they play.
They've changed the you know, zone or man how much
they play. I don't know all of that, so I
can't speak on it, but I know up front, if
you want to run the ball, you can get in
the middle. But everything I've seen is on the edges.
(36:19):
Everything I've seen, especially in Miami, Miammi ed them up
on the edges for it's running and passing, just getting
that ball out of there.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Uh, that is what I've seen. They trying to play hard.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
And people say, well, the Jets defense ain't as good as.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
As it's been. I disagree.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
I don't think coach Wilkes, our coach Glenn is calling
a lot of games, a lot of stunts, a lot
of blitzes.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I don't see it like I see with other teams
where they where they'll see you in the game and
they make the little smaller Jets. But Jesse, you're a
little more knowledgeable all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I mean, it's when you're owing whatever they are. They
haven't won a game this year. They're just picture this
for a second because coach Glenn Aaron Glenn is their
head coach. He came over from Detroit. He's a defensive guy, right,
So just put this thought process.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
In your mind.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Their entire team is owing four. They're playing bad both
offensively and defensively. Think about what we are going through
defensively with us and how we're talking about simplifying and
more communication and all this other stuff. Defensively, they're having
(37:45):
to do that as a whole because they aren't good
on either side of the ball, So everything has to
be so much more simple. Your quarterback isn't a quarterback
that's going to be able to win games for you
by himself, right, so I have to figure out a
way that. But I'm also he's also not good enough
to like, even if you wanted him to win the
(38:06):
game by hisself, he don't have the harn to do that.
You don't have the quarterback aptitude and savvy to kind
of go out there and do it like that. He
can go out there be an athlete, but so now
I gotta make sure that he doesn't get outside of himself.
And now he's trying to do things that's out of
his wheelhouse, and now you're throwing the game away. So offensively,
(38:27):
it's more of I don't necessarily need you justin fields
to win the game, but I don't need you to
lose the game for us either, So they stuck it
in between that. And then defensively, it's because we have
to make sure that we don't give up too many
(38:47):
points because we don't have the offense that's going to
be able to go and score points. I have to
make make sure guys are playing free and fast. How
do I do that? I simplify the message. I have
few calls, fewer stunts, fewer blitzes because now guys know
what they have to do and can play faster and
in hopes that we are able to maintain and kind
(39:11):
of keep this at a reasonable distance so that either
they turn the ball over they got a punt, and
then now we get a chance offensively to kind of
wear the clock down, run it down.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
They want to muck it up.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
They they want to have a physical fight by the
time they get into the fourth quarter. That this thing
is more it's just an easier game for him to win.
I think I even see the stat when it comes
to justin fields that like teams that he's playing on
the starting that if they score more than twenty five
twenty one points a game, he's only twenty five.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
He's only twenty five.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
And it starts that if an opposing team scores twenty
one points or more so, he ain't he ain't likeing
to scoreboard.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
So is it a stat where you can look up
and see what they're giving up in this second half
of games.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Is it a stat Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
The thing that's amazing to me is uh, Like I said,
I was listening to Isaiah on his show, and now
I want to ask Jesse doing our show. Is they
ain't just I mean they losing, Yes, they are, you know,
but the games by the end of the by the
end of the game, it looks like it's been closer
than what it was. You look at the game like, wow,
(40:25):
they got whooped. But then at the end of the
game you see the score like, okay, didn't look as bad,
you know what I'm saying, But they lost.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, Justin Fields twenty five in his career when the
posing team scored twenty one points.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Some more, just twenty one, just twenty twenty one points more,
you get three touchdowns, twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
One points, you're gonna win against Justin Fields.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
Wow, we said, Jets scoring in the defense coming in
and they've given up the second half. Yes, they've given
up thirteen point three points in the second half, right,
twenty third in the league. Yeah, Dallas is given up
fourteen and a half.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
So and another fun matchup to look out for is
is our number one wide receiver is George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Versus Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
You don't hear a lot about Sauce anymore because you
don't hear much about the Jets anymore. I know, is
he still good?
Speaker 7 (41:17):
But is he still.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
So?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Here's the thing about Sauce Gardner. Like Sauce Gardner, and
if you go back and look at some of the
plays where or some of the games where they'll every
now and again they'll kind of go Sauce follow, they'll
start you go, but it's normally to the bigger wide receivers.
He shut down Mike Evans. He shut down DJ Metcalf
(41:41):
when he was on him the eighty arc touchdown.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
He wasn't on him.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think he was gardening DK Metcalf like fourteen or
sixteen out of the eighteen routes that he ran, twenty
more routes that he ran. And last year, going back
to last year, Week seven, twenty twenty four, when George
Pickens was with Pittsburgh, they faced off and Sauce Guardener
guarded him fourteen out of the twenty one routes that
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he ran in that game. They were all wide alignments.
The quarterback threw it his way on those fourteen passes.
Four times for one reception for twelve yards. Other than that,
the yeah so, but in that game he had he
had nine targets for five receptions and one hundred and
(42:26):
eleven yards and a touchdown against the other DBS.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
So if you're the Jets, you just go, okay, sauce
follow pickings and then we're gonna load the box. Game
over and on top of that, Turpen's gonna be out
like all this and like you got nobody else to
catch the ball. All they can do is run.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, Because the Jets defense through four weeks, they play
man coverage thirty one percent of the time Cover one,
and man coverage is zero coverage, right, everyone has a man.
Cover one is a single high safety, so there's still
man underneath, but there's a single high safety that if
anything breaks down. They play that twenty four percent of
the time. They play zone sixty four percent of the time,
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and then when they play in the zone, they're playing
Cover three and then Cover.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
FOURR Kurt said they're ninth and blitz percentage at twenty
eight point six, but just thirty first in quarterback hits,
in thirty ninth in pressure.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
They have no interceptions in Noble fumble recoveries. They just
playing bland football.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
And this is the part I was talking about earlier
when you have to keep this guy in the cup.
Because the Cowboys defensively this year against scrambled runs from
the quarterback. Through the first four weeks, they faced thirteen
different out of the four quarterback, they faced thirteen rushers.
They've allowed one hundred and nine yards. That's eight point
four yards of carries, eight first downs, and two touchdowns.
(43:50):
So this is one of those quarterbacks that's going to
challenge you when it comes to the scramble. It's going
to challenge you in that way. But I look forward
to the matchup like that's the part the game where
you look at good on Good Saust Guard Nverse, George Pickens,
and you know you want to be looked at as
a number one. These are the games you have to
show up and be consistent. You can have one good
(44:10):
game against Green Bay. You can't go spit the bit,
you know, especially they're doing one on one covers across
the field. But I do like the way that that
dak And and Schottenheimer are kind of just in lockstep
with one another.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
They got a good chemistry going and and I hope,
I hope, I believe.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I think that they'll continue that this week against the Jets.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
They have.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Hope curse Kurt Right stats.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Jets have yet to allow more than two hundred and
twenty five yards passing fourteenth and passing yards allowed overall.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
The last two teams, the last two teams they've played against.
I think it's thirty two and thirty four rushes they
they made. They make the Jets, and did you well,
how we want to look at they make the Jets
defend the run. So we're gonna be patient enough, the
game gonna be close enough that we can just continue
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to threatening with the run because the way they look
at it, the way teams that have played them look
at it, is they rather keep them weary of that
because I think they got average pass rushers on the outside,
but I think what they got in the.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Inside is special. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
So, but they don't want to find out. Nobody don't
want to just throw that ball sixty times and find out.
You know what I'm saying, That's what it seemed like.
That's what it seems like, because check me and see
if I'm right. I know they've had a close to
thirty rushes.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
Miami had thirty one last week.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Right, yeah? And who and before that Tampama? Was it Tampa?
They play someone else?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
How many rushies they had?
Speaker 6 (45:53):
They had thirty four?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah, so and they was well, Evans was hurt and
somebody else was hurt, so they had to go to
their rush game.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
But they won.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
They won.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
So yeah, so Javonte Williams, let's go.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Cow Bell, put him in your fantasy lineup, all right, fellas, Jesse,
good to have you back.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Hey, good stuff, Greg Shure, stuff on Kirk Pocket.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah, good seeing you, Chris, thanks for keeping us on
the air.
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Josh. Thanks you don't want to share.
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We'll be back one more. Try be back tomorrow, Mo,
get better.
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Be back tomorrow. Love you, love you baby, See you later. Will.
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But we got to give a shout out to our
guy Mo uh Mo from Kuwait. Mos dealing with some
health issues right now. So Mo, we want to let
you know brother that we we are thinking about you.
We're praying for you. And and Mo said he's gonna
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Mo.
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from Chris and the back from Shannon. Brother man, we
we we love you, man, and we're thinking about you.
Keep fighting this thing get better each and every day, man,
and we're gonna make sure that we hold it down.
And and he says, uh that he's gonna he's gonna
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beat this thing. And he said he's he's he's gonna
take you up on that offer, that cross country trip.
Said he gonna you know, he's gonna pay for everything,
said he's gonna pay for for the guys, for the lodging,
for everything. He said, he not, he said, not buying,
you know, a souvenir. He said, he's not buying you
a souvenir. He said, because you're not gonna get some
two thousand dollars pair of boots and me walking around
on him like you don't know they're two thousand dollars
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like the sneakers that you got that you don't even
know about it, he said. But he's gonna, he said,
you guys are gonna drive to New York City and
they're gonna fly me in the Jersey and then y'all
gonna drive by and pick me up off.
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Closed finally coach the chapter in that story. So mo, brother,
we are thinking of you. You are you are in
our thoughts, you are in our prayers each and every day. Man,
get better, get well, and we look forward to seeing
you here in Dallas healthy, my brother, God bless you.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, sir, get better.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Move Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
All right, we had a lot to cover today because
we held back for you. Jesse should come, thank you.
But there's something This may take. This may take half
a minute, This may take a whole segment because Nate
will probably tune us out as soon as I bring
it up. But we have to acknowledge our kicker. I know,
we talk about it and we think he's great. What
happened today, Kurt, something happened.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, his head Special Teams Player of the Month for September.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And that's the fourth time in his career, his career.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
You send their homeschool and their kid.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
So my question to you guys is there's another one.
He's gonna get paid.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He checked out out already.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Right, Yeah, he'll get paid.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
He's gonna get paid. Somebody's gonna pay him. This is
the last year of his deal, and currently it was.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A mixed diverse school.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was a very mixed diversity.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You see how he's just completely work Okay, the kicker,
the kicker, he is very special, right, isn't the time
we need him?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
It is to win our time?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But no, I disagree because the way he's been this
new kickoff rule. He's been nailing these new kickoffs and
putting them on the twenty instead of the thirty five.
So not only is he scoring you points, he's.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Just giving us more agony because that a touchdown coming
from a longer way.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So I questioned, y'all, I know how Nate feels about this.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But he's a weapon, man, Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
He is a weapon, Yes he is.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Right now, Kurt looked us up, Harrison. Butker, the chiefs
kicker has a four year, twenty five point six million
dollar deal. And I know you don't normally pay kickers,
and I don't think you would do more than three
years for a kicker because they one wire gets crossed
and you know they're done.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Maybe you do a four year deal.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But what what's his if he hits the market, what
is the market going to be for him? Is he
maybe the first eight, nine million, ten million dollar kicker
in the league.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And Brandon always respects women way more than Bucker does.
So yeah, that's a mix. He's cleaned so far. So far,
that to the mix. But like, I mean, like we.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
See that big a job, but.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What's that value now, especially if they keep this kickoff
rule that's a big fifteen yards starting position is a
big deal and he's nailing that almost every single kick.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Not only that, but with the with a new way, and.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Vic Fangiel from the Philadelphia Eagles talked about this in
the press conference the other day, with the way now
that the kickers are able to work these balls.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That didn't come out right.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Okay, we know we know what these footballs and just
they don't they don't have God.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So what did you do.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
On your off day clearing your mind on your off day?
I thought you was clearing your mind.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yee, my game day this one day and I'm off
my game man, godang dingg. But you know he said that,
you know, he says that all he said soon he
feels like he'll be a kicking seventy yarder. And so
when you have that level of confidence in your back,
pocket with the kicker that that helps you. That helps
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you in a lot of football games where if you
get to fifty yard line that you have a really
good chance of adding points on the board. And in
these in these tightly contested gains, you always want to
have that one advantage, right. Sometimes it may be your quarterback,
it may be your run game, it may be your receiver,
it may be off it's online, but this is one
of those things that it's like car insurance, right, It's
(07:33):
literally like car insurance. You never, you know, you never
think about having car insurance. Car insurance never crosses your mind.
It cal you don't count every single month right until
you need it, until you absolutely need it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And now you want to be able to go.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Oh yeah, I got car insurance for that boom. That's
what That's what Brendon Aubrey is. He is the insurance
for you when everything else is going wrong around you
that that right now has become a sure thing for
this Cowboys offensively.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now we can move on, what would you pay a
kicker though? Whatever he wants, That's what I'm saying. That's
the question.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Jesse normally answers the question like a long way of nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Whatever dollar more.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm whatever he's gotten.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And and by the way, his agent is Todd France,
so that's Dak Prescott's agent. So he's gonna have the
highest quarterback paid in the league. Is gonna have the
highest kicker in the league. But Terry's gonna be dealing
with some sharks now. They every age they deal with
now went over. They they want their client has top
of the market ability.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
M hmmmm hmm. All right, what do we want to
jump into?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Got a lot of ground to cover where we want
to go first?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Well, I just well, hold on, man, what.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Jesse can you share with us yesterday? Oh, I'm gonna
talk about the Jets?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Talk about just that hurts me, Kurt, where you want
to say, he ain't gonna tell y'all. I'm going he
told me a secret, so I gotta keep it a secret.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
That's hurt it's a first Yeah, wow, gonna stop this time.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The only time you keep a secret is if somebody
calls you one on one.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
If it's in the group text, it's fair game us.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
But he called me a secret, So I like, sir,
get us go where you will go?
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Kirt, Well, before we get too deep into the Jets.
What are we gonna do about this offensive line? Got
all these questions, all these overtime games we're playing?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Is it taking a toll?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Now, it's just that that's bad luck. It's just bad luck.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Concussion and look like he's gonna play Turpens looks like
he's gonna be out.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Smith's gotta knee.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Didn't practice, But Turpin doesn't playoff insive line, Kurt.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You going that anybody.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
He knew?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
I think I got that much down.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Do we have enough people to start?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yes we do, Yes we do. We got Nate Thomas
and uh. The thing is I always like for the
anchor guy, which is our left tackle, Titler's left guard,
Title Smith. They say he's a little banged up and
nicked up. Now that's when I get worried. You always
need that dog on the line to keep everybody because
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you look over there like it used to be for
you know, for Big it was us Big E. You know,
we'll look over there Big and we get our strength.
You know, we'll get our ugliness from Big E. So
as long as we got that left guard, and now
I think we're gonna be all right, you know, so
that is my big question guiding They'll put Nate Thomas in,
you know, but we can't have we can't lose. Still,
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then we don't. Yeah, we won't have it. I don't
know who comes out for.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That, Hakeem Yeah. Yeah, and then his backups hurt.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, so we we we we're down to the bottom
of the barrel. Man. They're not saying that in the
barrel is bad because uh they they love some Nate Thomas.
These people love some Nate Thomas. So all we gotta
do is make sure he know how to get up
on the offensive line and we should be all right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And let me also say this. This may not come
as a.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Thing that's really a big story, but to the point
of the offensive line, if you're going to be without
multiple offensive lineman, you're now talking about having backups up.
You got to have enough offensive lineman. So you Trevor Keegan,
They're probably gonna have to bring him up depending on
how that happens. Right, So that's another jersey to that
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goes to a backup offensive lineman because you.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Don't know what you're have in this game.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So where would now if you give him a jersey,
somebody else and I know that we've talked about maybe
Jaden Blue probably getting to start this week. Where where
does that other jersey come from? What guys are going down,
what guys are coming up? So this is that's one
of those storylines that you have to look at because
of all these injuries heading into this week.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And to add to what he's saying, they ain't taking
it away from defense because they need everage jersey they
can get, So it ain't come. So it's gonna be
an offensive guy that they shift around, because I'm serious,
because the defense ain't. It ain't like our secondary is
equally injured as well as our offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So and the red Kurt is injured? Yes? Yes? Or out?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Is it just they show up on the injury either
rookie it's injurying rookies is the red okay?
Speaker 10 (12:51):
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Speaker 5 (12:52):
It's colorful sheet now. So we're gonna get to the
Jets or anything else Jets you would like to share
with us.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You just get it out, Just get it out in
the break. We'll be right back and we'll talk about
the Jets.
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their quarterback because we've we've had some issues with mobile
quarterbacks that can break the pocket down and escape, and
this guy is probably wanted, probably Lamar and then everybody else.
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But he's at the top of that second group. And
what do you see in him?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Jesse?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And how much trouble I don't. I don't think are
we going to have trouble? As the question how much
trouble are we going to have? Is he looking at
a seventy eighty yard rushing day.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
If you're not, if you're not sound easily easily Because
here's the thing about justin fields the Jets quarterback is
he's not going to I went and looked in his
entire career. It's not a long career, but as an
entire career, he only has I believe four games of
two hundred and fifty yards or more passing in his
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entire career right now.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean he's been in the league, what four years?
Three years?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
This is four or five because he's then there, did
a couple of years in Chicago, then he went to
Pittsburgh and now this is year one is rookie year,
so fifth year, so this is fifth year. So this
is not a guy who's going to wow you with
his arm right now. He can throw the ball, but
he's not he to me, he's an athlete playing quarterback.
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He's not a quarterback who's athletic. Okay that that there's
a there's a difference in those two scenarios. And for
Justin Fields is yes, he'll throw the goal ball and
he has a really good receiver in Garrett Wilson, who
I'm a fan of. But I'm not worried about him
doing that. What I'm worried about is the RPOs And
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if there's any level of communication that needs to be
had for the Cowboys, I don't believe it's in the
back end. It's when we break the defensive huddle. The
second the first and second level defenders for the Cowboys
should all understand and know who has the quarterback like
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that has to be number one when they break the huddle.
Sam Boys shouldn't be asking Murray. Murray shouldn't be asking
Leah foul LEA Foule shouldn't be asking everybody knowing those
first and second levels, no matter what happens in this play,
who's responsible for the quarterback? Because if you lose him,
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he's gone. He is out of there. And I know
for a fact it's not a linebacker on that we
have right now be able to catch them, not one.
And this might be the game you might have to
go tell Jack samon On, Hey brother, it's not you,
it's not your fight.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, we might need to go a little faster.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But what get What makes it difficult with Justin Fields
is their personnel because they will go twelve personnel twenty
one personnel. So it means that you have to keep
your base package out there. It's not like when you
go Nickel or dime when they're going three or four
wide receivers where you bring the smaller guys in and
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now you can bring a smaller linebacker an that's when
the lee fi if you if.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Your base package is.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It's Sam Borne and Murray because that is going with
how they send out their personnel. Because they're going to
run the football. You better you better learn how to
tackle within this week.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
You can't tackle the way you tackled against Green Bay.
They're going to run the football. Uh, Breecee Hall. They
lost their other running back, number zero to a knee injury.
He's going on ir but Breese Hall, They're going to
run the football. They're gonna run it right, they're gonna
run it left, They're gonna run a lot. They're gonna
use that to play play action again. They want to
get Justin Fields out the pocket. They want to roll them.
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They don't want him standing. You know statue su as
a defense defense, you want him in the pocket. So
when you're rushing Justin Fields, you're better off allowing him
to stay in the pocket and you not getting the sack.
Then you go on further sack and missing it, missing it,
and now he comes out the back door, or he
creeps through a lane and guys have they back turn,
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and now he's off for.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Forty five yards down the football field.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
So for for Justin Fields, it's keep him in the pocket,
and then understand who is assigned to the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
If they're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Spy, if they're going however they decide to do it,
everybody should know when they break the huddle, who's responsible
for number seven. I don't think he can truly hurt
you with this arm. He can he can kill you
if you allow him to get mobile and be outside
the pocket and break and containment. So that's when you
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have guys like you know, I know that we want
to rush up the field, but you got to kind
of almost you have to. You have to rush in
such a way that he you don't overrun him, you
don't give him a lane. He's looking for a lane.
He's looking for a way to get out of there,
trying to escape. If you keep him in the pocket,
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you have a much better chance, especially if eber Fuz
wants to run his own defense. Make him have to
throw through three or four or five or six guys.
Like that's the part where you have to, like make
justin fields play the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Don't let him be an athlete.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
They have somebody spying in each player necessarily, or.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You can I mean that that would be a plan
that I would have in the in the in the
in the playbook, like no, no, no, yeah, having a
spy would definitely be a plan. But now it's who's
a spy. They even tried, they tried to use a thing.
It was for the Giants. They tried to use Sam
Williams as a spot. Not a good choice, not against
this guy. Not a good choice. Now, you know you
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talk about wishing you had a guy, Now would be
time that you wish she had agent zero. You wish
you had a guy like Damorron Overshown who can go
out and run sideline on the sideline. But this sounds
like it's an assignment for a guy like Damon Clark,
a guy like Maris Leafoul to get that opportunity to
go out there and be a spy. Or or if
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you decide to run it in a situation where because
they they've done this a little bit where they're running
these inverted coverages and that they've used like Reddy Stewart.
Sometimes it kind of be that he's not a linebacker,
but he's like the star player, so he's playing that
hook curl area and maybe if you want to bring
another But that's where it gets difficult because if they
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got big personnel out there and you're trying to have
a guy, a smaller, quicker, faster guy, trying to have
him out there for the RPO situ for a spying situation, well,
now you got the small dude that has to go
up against a big blocking tight end or a pulling
guard or you know what I mean. And that's just
where it gets a little bit at a disadvantage for
you upfront. You gotta win with your four guys up front.
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But those guys have to understand we are formulating a cup.
You hear coach Eban flu talk about tackling the cup method,
where one guy's coming from the inside, one guy's coming
from the outside. We're setting this cup or this.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Cone around the ball carrier. This is how you have
to rush him.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
You have to rush him in a cone, in a cup,
keeping him in the pocket, not giving him seams and
ways out there. You kind of like almost gotta kind
of rush and kind of just play it like rush
and play it and then late hands if he had
to tie to throw the ball because you start getting
out of your lanes. I'm telling you, he will kill
you with his legs.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Twenty four carries one hundred and seventy eight yard seven
point four average. His longry's been forty three. He's got
three tds. He's averaging fifty nine yards. Again, Aim, she's
fumbled once, but he's got ten first downs. This kid
like everything just I can't add on to what he's saying.
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If you even even like when we played, they would
tell a guy who's who's out of control? Like Charles, Charles,
you Charles we needed We need you to do this.
Even if you get a quick escape, you beat your guy,
he totally miss you. You have to get back in
your lane. You have to get back in your lane
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because a lot of times when a guy get a
quick escape, he's like I got this, and all of
a sudden, he just goes straight at the quarterback. This
quarterback here. When you rush him from the outside, you
have to aim for his middle, but play to the outside.
So if he fake you, he going back inside. And
I'm talking about from the end point of view, that's you.
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That's where you have help. As as two tackles. You
gotta go straight forward. You got a bull rush, and
if you got a directional rush where both tackles going
to the same side, you have to stay tight and
you have to rip and just stay tight, keep this
outside on free and make him go into your deep,
into your end. It's all about uniformity, it's all If
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you do not do this, this kid will hurt you.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's gotta be tough because that goes against everything you're
taught as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Rights, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, your assignment.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
But like when you're free, when you're like, okay, wait,
hang on, but I got to make sure I'm not
too far inside. I see.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
This is what separates us from the normal college guy.
Is the discipline that we have, like Green Bay discipline
you're supposed to have. Yeah, like green Bay. We me
and Jesse both saw the same thing. They are bringing
number two, I mean number seven, the linebacker. But everybody
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was in their lane. Everybody was in their lane. It's
just the on your personnel, the ability to think what's
up above the neck, how bad you want to stay
within the team concept. The better teams that win games
when they're playing equal or greater can do this. And
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this is a time where we have to do this
if we want to have a true shot at beating
this team. Do what the coach.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Asks you to do.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Now, when it comes to the spy, ain't nobody that
can dance with this kid unless you unless he's almost
like like a dB. Because our linebackers can't dance with
this kid. And I don't think they're giving Leb foul.
They for some reason, they not letting him play for
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some reason. Hit next to Clark, he's the next you
know what I'm saying. So, but if they put him
in the game and let him play. We got it.
But anybody else, any other linebacker you think can run
with him.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Now you got to depend on Bail. But if they
see Bail, then Bryce Briee, then Bree's coming. Oh man,
remember him. That's run, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And that's the part where you know, that's why first
and down is so important, because you want to put
yourself in a position on third down that the distance
is far enough.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Where he can run for all the distance. You know,
he can run for all of them.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It could be third to thirteen, and if you give
him a scene, he'll run away from you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But more so that they have to go passing right.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
They can't have an option of you know, if it's
third and three, they just quarterback draw, quarterback run RPO
like that type of stuff. You want to keep out
of the equation because you now play you have to
play eleven on eleven football And this is actually it
just just hit me. This game would be it's gonna
be great practice and implementation for the next couple of
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games that you have because you got Bryce Young coming up,
you got Jaydon Daniels coming up, you got Kyler Murray
coming up. All these guys and quarterbacks, you kind of
need to keep in this pocket in this cup and
not allow them to kind of, you know, be maneuvering
and dancing around the pocket. So whatever game plan did
you run here, you know this should be good enough
to that I can carry over to next week when
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I play the Panthers, And we got to that when
I play the Commanders, and we got to that when
I play the Cardinals. So because they all have a
running style quarterback, a quarterback who if.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
You give him up, you give him a itch, he
will take a yard. What is it you're seeing?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Because stat wise through three games he hasn't thrown an
interception yet and he's got one hundred point one passer rating.
What what makes you not wear? Is he not going
down the field with it? So everything everything short.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
They're trying to run the football. They're trying to slow
the game down. Aaron, Aaron Glynn there there. They they
want to be a physical running football team. They want
to run the ball a lot, they want to control
the clock, and then they want to make play action throws.
You see a lot of throws out routes, quick routes.
They don't want that. That's been Justin Field's biggest problem
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is that he runs into a lot of sacks because
he holds the football too long. Not because the offensive
line is always bad. It's because you hold the football
too long, and he doesn't like he relies on his athleticism.
So sometimes instead of him, you look at the way
Dak has and I did a breakdown on this morning,
just the way that Dak is working his way in
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the pocket, not trying to get out of the pocket,
but just working hisself through the pocket and then delivering
the ball down the field. When the pocket looks a
squeamish bit erratic, for justin Fields, he's gone. And those
level of quarterbacks at times run themselves into sacks because
and they can tell you as an offensive lineman, if
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I know what the protection is, we call the protection
in the huddle, I know what the route is, I
know what my help is out. I know my help
is not at So I'm blocking a dude a certain way.
But if this quarterback is a is a runner and
he's all over the place, well I'm blocking according to
the protection. Sometimes young quarterbacks and athletic quarterbacks, they they
(29:12):
forget the protection and rely on athleticism. And now Nate
is like, well, my help is inside, so I'm gonna
dance when I'm over here. And now you all of
a sudden, you look and that dude.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Showed to feel.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You're like, where he going? But the quarterback wasn't inside
where he was supposed to be. He outside and out
You're like, you're like, and now everybody goes, god, damgn
they fat boy, and you gave up a sack and
they like, he't want to supos to run out here?
He supposed to be on the inside of me what
the protection called for?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
And that's where that's where you got to have a
great offensive line coach, because boy, you you walking with
your head down the office line coach said, hey, as
soon as you sit down. Hey, bro, we did the
protection got you. We did the protection. He needed to
be where he needed to be on this one. But
only time we'll get in trouble's quick escapes, right, and
that is what uh. If you get a quick escape,
(30:03):
get back in your lane. Remember early against Philadelphia, how
five beat the kid real quick and wetch card City
Like you just stay in your laid. He just took
off fifteen yards, you know, So we got to be
disciplined man. That's just eloquence spoken man.
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Speaker 1 (33:05):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Nice, Thanks Nate. What are we gonna do with Quinn Williams?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
How you stopping double team? Double team? Now you can?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I've seen people blocking one on one. I've seen that,
and I think that was just the place he was
taking off.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
To have anybody else on their D line to worry about.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Number number ninety seven is a load, but he kind
of plays to his own tune right now, he's got
if he stopped doing that and play within defense, Big
number ninety seven, give me give me his name.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Here, Harrison Phillips.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
If he played within the scheme, he could do some
damage because he'll walk if he get mad, he can walk.
You back on the top of that quarterback number seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Jay to a fee league. There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Uh, he is a little spark club. He's a little
spark pluger. He'll run around. They play a lot of
over and in their regular defense. And then when they're
regular first and ten second and uh five, Huh.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Over means where.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
The strength if your tight ends to the right, they
have an end over him tackle over the uh the
end over the tackle. They have a three technique and
a and a nose guard. Those three guys become then
they have a big gap over the guard, and then
they have a defensive end and they always kind of
playing that over. But what they'll do sometimes and what
(34:37):
I what I tried to figure out, was they'll slide
that guy that's that's over on the strong side over
the guard. They'll kind of slide to the inside eye
sometime uh to the outside eye, and they'll bring that
guard just slight that being that tackle on the on
the left guard slightly to the inside, and the kind
of look like a four man front that alonger the
(34:58):
distance of the past, they'll come more to even look.
But with the tackles over the guards playing shade it
and it'll look like over, but it won't be over.
And that's how we'll read it as a lion, because
we'll go from fifty one, I think it's the outside
linebacker in forty four is your middle, and that's where
(35:20):
we will be reading from when we're reading from the strength.
Like I said, the longer the past distance, because I
don't believe it's no more thing as third and long.
It makes it a passing down or second and long.
It's like when it's a past situation. They'll kind of
balance up. Now they will run a game here and there,
(35:41):
but not like we saw with Green Bay. They're blitz
a one guy but not like Green Bay. What coach
is trying to do Coach Glenn and coach Steve Wilks,
is they trying to just stay basic and see who
can play Now.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I heard.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Isaiah and asked Jested the same thing they say. On
the back end, they have changed depending on who they play.
They've changed the you know, zone or man how much
they play. I don't know all of that, so I
can't speak on it, but I know up front, if
you want to run the ball, you can get in
the middle. But everything I've seen is on the edges.
(36:19):
Everything I've seen, especially in Miami, Miammi ed them up
on the edges for it's running and passing, just getting
that ball out of there.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Uh, that is what I've seen. They trying to play hard.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
And people say, well, the Jets defense ain't as good as.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
As it's been. I disagree.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
I don't think coach Wilkes, our coach Glenn is calling
a lot of games, a lot of stunts, a lot
of blitzes.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I don't see it like I see with other teams
where they where they'll see you in the game and
they make the little smaller Jets. But Jesse, you're a
little more knowledgeable all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I mean, it's when you're owing whatever they are. They
haven't won a game this year. They're just picture this
for a second because coach Glenn Aaron Glenn is their
head coach. He came over from Detroit. He's a defensive guy, right,
So just put this thought process.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
In your mind.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Their entire team is owing four. They're playing bad both
offensively and defensively. Think about what we are going through
defensively with us and how we're talking about simplifying and
more communication and all this other stuff. Defensively, they're having
(37:45):
to do that as a whole because they aren't good
on either side of the ball, So everything has to
be so much more simple. Your quarterback isn't a quarterback
that's going to be able to win games for you
by himself, right, so I have to figure out a
way that. But I'm also he's also not good enough
to like, even if you wanted him to win the
(38:06):
game by hisself, he don't have the harn to do that.
You don't have the quarterback aptitude and savvy to kind
of go out there and do it like that. He
can go out there be an athlete, but so now
I gotta make sure that he doesn't get outside of himself.
And now he's trying to do things that's out of
his wheelhouse, and now you're throwing the game away. So offensively,
(38:27):
it's more of I don't necessarily need you justin fields
to win the game, but I don't need you to
lose the game for us either, So they stuck it
in between that. And then defensively, it's because we have
to make sure that we don't give up too many
(38:47):
points because we don't have the offense that's going to
be able to go and score points. I have to
make make sure guys are playing free and fast. How
do I do that? I simplify the message. I have
few calls, fewer stunts, fewer blitzes because now guys know
what they have to do and can play faster and
in hopes that we are able to maintain and kind
(39:11):
of keep this at a reasonable distance so that either
they turn the ball over they got a punt, and
then now we get a chance offensively to kind of
wear the clock down, run it down.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
They want to muck it up.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
They they want to have a physical fight by the
time they get into the fourth quarter. That this thing
is more it's just an easier game for him to win.
I think I even see the stat when it comes
to justin fields that like teams that he's playing on
the starting that if they score more than twenty five
twenty one points a game, he's only twenty five.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
He's only twenty five.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
And it starts that if an opposing team scores twenty
one points or more so, he ain't he ain't likeing
to scoreboard.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
So is it a stat where you can look up
and see what they're giving up in this second half
of games.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Is it a stat Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
The thing that's amazing to me is uh, Like I said,
I was listening to Isaiah on his show, and now
I want to ask Jesse doing our show. Is they
ain't just I mean they losing, Yes, they are, you know,
but the games by the end of the by the
end of the game, it looks like it's been closer
than what it was. You look at the game like, wow,
(40:25):
they got whooped. But then at the end of the
game you see the score like, okay, didn't look as bad,
you know what I'm saying, But they lost.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, Justin Fields twenty five in his career when the
posing team scored twenty one points.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Some more, just twenty one, just twenty twenty one points more,
you get three touchdowns, twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
One points, you're gonna win against Justin Fields.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
Wow, we said, Jets scoring in the defense coming in
and they've given up the second half. Yes, they've given
up thirteen point three points in the second half, right,
twenty third in the league. Yeah, Dallas is given up
fourteen and a half.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
So and another fun matchup to look out for is
is our number one wide receiver is George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Versus Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
You don't hear a lot about Sauce anymore because you
don't hear much about the Jets anymore. I know, is
he still good?
Speaker 7 (41:17):
But is he still.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
So?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Here's the thing about Sauce Gardner. Like Sauce Gardner, and
if you go back and look at some of the
plays where or some of the games where they'll every
now and again they'll kind of go Sauce follow, they'll
start you go, but it's normally to the bigger wide receivers.
He shut down Mike Evans. He shut down DJ Metcalf
(41:41):
when he was on him the eighty arc touchdown.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
He wasn't on him.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think he was gardening DK Metcalf like fourteen or
sixteen out of the eighteen routes that he ran, twenty
more routes that he ran. And last year, going back
to last year, Week seven, twenty twenty four, when George
Pickens was with Pittsburgh, they faced off and Sauce Guardener
guarded him fourteen out of the twenty one routes that
(42:05):
he ran in that game. They were all wide alignments.
The quarterback threw it his way on those fourteen passes.
Four times for one reception for twelve yards. Other than that,
the yeah so, but in that game he had he
had nine targets for five receptions and one hundred and
(42:26):
eleven yards and a touchdown against the other DBS.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
So if you're the Jets, you just go, okay, sauce
follow pickings and then we're gonna load the box. Game
over and on top of that, Turpen's gonna be out
like all this and like you got nobody else to
catch the ball. All they can do is run.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, Because the Jets defense through four weeks, they play
man coverage thirty one percent of the time Cover one,
and man coverage is zero coverage, right, everyone has a man.
Cover one is a single high safety, so there's still
man underneath, but there's a single high safety that if
anything breaks down. They play that twenty four percent of
the time. They play zone sixty four percent of the time,
(43:08):
and then when they play in the zone, they're playing
Cover three and then Cover.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
FOURR Kurt said they're ninth and blitz percentage at twenty
eight point six, but just thirty first in quarterback hits,
in thirty ninth in pressure.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
They have no interceptions in Noble fumble recoveries. They just
playing bland football.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
And this is the part I was talking about earlier
when you have to keep this guy in the cup.
Because the Cowboys defensively this year against scrambled runs from
the quarterback. Through the first four weeks, they faced thirteen
different out of the four quarterback, they faced thirteen rushers.
They've allowed one hundred and nine yards. That's eight point
four yards of carries, eight first downs, and two touchdowns.
(43:50):
So this is one of those quarterbacks that's going to
challenge you when it comes to the scramble. It's going
to challenge you in that way. But I look forward
to the matchup like that's the part the game where
you look at good on Good Saust Guard Nverse, George Pickens,
and you know you want to be looked at as
a number one. These are the games you have to
show up and be consistent. You can have one good
(44:10):
game against Green Bay. You can't go spit the bit,
you know, especially they're doing one on one covers across
the field. But I do like the way that that
dak And and Schottenheimer are kind of just in lockstep
with one another.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
They got a good chemistry going and and I hope,
I hope, I believe.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I think that they'll continue that this week against the Jets.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
They have.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Hope curse Kurt Right stats.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Jets have yet to allow more than two hundred and
twenty five yards passing fourteenth and passing yards allowed overall.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
The last two teams, the last two teams they've played against.
I think it's thirty two and thirty four rushes they
they made. They make the Jets, and did you well,
how we want to look at they make the Jets
defend the run. So we're gonna be patient enough, the
game gonna be close enough that we can just continue
(45:07):
to threatening with the run because the way they look
at it, the way teams that have played them look
at it, is they rather keep them weary of that
because I think they got average pass rushers on the outside,
but I think what they got in the.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Inside is special. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
So, but they don't want to find out. Nobody don't
want to just throw that ball sixty times and find out.
You know what I'm saying, That's what it seemed like.
That's what it seems like, because check me and see
if I'm right. I know they've had a close to
thirty rushes.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
Miami had thirty one last week.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Right, yeah? And who and before that Tampama? Was it Tampa?
They play someone else?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
How many rushies they had?
Speaker 6 (45:53):
They had thirty four?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah, so and they was well, Evans was hurt and
somebody else was hurt, so they had to go to
their rush game.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
But they won.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
They won.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
So yeah, so Javonte Williams, let's go.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Cow Bell, put him in your fantasy lineup, all right, fellas, Jesse,
good to have you back.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Hey, good stuff, Greg Shure, stuff on Kirk Pocket.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah, good seeing you, Chris, thanks for keeping us on
the air.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Josh. Thanks you don't want to share.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
We'll be back one more. Try be back tomorrow, Mo,
get better.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Be back tomorrow. Love you, love you baby, See you later. Will.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
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