October 6, 2025 • 48 mins
The Cowboys got a dose of the medicine they needed with their victory over the Jets. So are they where we thought they’d be after five games? Are we any closer to knowing what type of team this is? One thing is for certain – Coach Schottenheimer and his staff are cooking right now. And Dak Prescott is better than he’s ever been. But what about that offensive line? Who saw that coming?
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We I got tart the show with a couple of shoutouts.
Shout out huh nothing, oh Josh, not that Josh in
the back. Another Josh met Josh when I was out
and about Saturday afternoon. Saturday afternoon, he came up to me,
said he loved the show. And there was another gentleman
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I didn't get his name, older black gentleman was out
with his sons.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's somethings. I mean, two big old boys.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I was.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
I looked at them. I was like, am I mean
two big old boys that's out with their family and uh.
And he walked up on them and he was like, man,
you look familiar.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I said me.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
He's like, yeah you. I was like, I don't know
to tell you. He was like, you look like Jesse Holly.
I was like, he said, man, you just Holly. I
said yeah, man, and so so shout out. I'm sorry
I didn't get your name, but shout out to you.
My brother saw him out and about mouch scatter of
your kids than you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Nice kids, was like he was big.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
All of them was like love with Jack.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, six five six six, big family.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I thought you was gonna say you look familiar you
Isaiah stand back?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Oh no, I would have shot off that. I mighta
kicked him in the shin oh for that.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Well, thanks for listening to the show. Shout out to everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yes, mother, brother.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
How we feeling today? You know it's the Jets, but
you did what you were supposed to do. Nate as
an offensive lineman, how good does it feel to see
the running game? It's even by kind a makeshift where
you have one one starter on the offensive line. I
mean this, this game had every makings of this could
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be one of those disastrous games where you lose to
the Jets and they they came out and they dominated men.
The score was it thirty seven to twenty two? It
wasn't even that close, man, it was so how you
feel about it, Eate?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I feel great, man. It's good to be back in
the driver seat. It's good to just say thank you
to the pharmacy, the New York Jets, thank you.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
What's that quarter?
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Mister Fields, thank you for not even trying to run.
I love you for that. Let us sack you. I
love that. Yeah, you kind of did it worse than job, brother,
you know what. Jets. Let me say this and you guys,
Shannony Kirk.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
When you have a gift and God has given you
a gift and you're about to be in a position
to use that gift. And you just saw a film
saying I know I can do this real well, But
the other teams did it like this.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But you know, I even tweeted it out.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
I said, I said, thank God that Justin Fields is
a runner and not.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
A touch pass thrower.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Right, I'm like, because if he was a thrower, it
was a couple of ones that he would have had
that would have resulted probably in touchdown.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
But he just isn't.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
He's just he's just not a he's not a good quarterback.
And I'm with you. And this also goes to coaching,
and we'll speak about how our coaching has become.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
A difference asset.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Yes, like you know, he's our coaching has become an
asset to the team's success. To your point, Nate, is
this is where coaching not actually matters at times. If
you know that there is a special gift that this
kid has utilize it at least more often. Now, I'm
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glad that they didn't. I'm glad that he wants to
prove to the world that he's a pocket passer. Fine
with me when I know that you're processing and decision
making from the pocket.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Is it the best?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And you hold the ball way too long? Fine with me.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Thank you for trying to be something that you're not
right now, and you allowed us to get something going
that we haven't been able to get going in four
weeks prior to meeting up with you in that game.
But that's the difference between you. Always look at what
makes good teams good teams. Yes, yes, it is good
Jimmy's and Joe's, and it's also good coaching that allows
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you to flourish in the goals and gifts that you have.
And they just a bad football team there in New
York Jets.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
So we on, are you on the team?
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Show?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
You gonna give it a few more weeks?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I was never not on team shotting? What did that?
What did that narrative?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You weren't on team shotting, You weren't against it, You
were just kind of waiting. See you gave a man
a year before you ran him out of town.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Yeah, And like so I would ask this question earlier.
Do you want me to judge him as a head
coach or do you want me to judge him as
a play caller?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Both as a play caller.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He's cooking is an a okay? All right?
Speaker 7 (06:24):
As a head coach, still too and one waiting. We're
still waiting to see what you are as a head coach.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Don't You don't, but you don't like the fact that
he's two two and one with that team he hads,
Oh you mean, like, is he getting more out of
him than he's he's you know, those guys put together
a backup offensive line, had a good game. That kind
of thing is are the guys.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
You're gonna You're gonna make me do something that I
told myself that I would.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Not do for at least two days. No, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Get in trouble.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
But I don't want to sour the victory, right like, yeah,
way to So it's like, as a head coach, I
would give him an excuse me as an offensive play
caller right now?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So you so you got a mechanism in place to
take yourself.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Because people will say, Jesse, you won, and I want
to celebrate the win.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I want to celebrate in the morning, Monday, celebrate way.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
You almost got me, my boy, I didn't know where
we're going down that road.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Monday.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
I'm celebrating today. I'll bring back the truth sometimes may
not want to hear.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I'll bring that.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
But as a play caller, Brian Schottenheimer right now is cooking.
He is in his bag. But again, you're a you're
the head football coach. You're responsible for everything that goes
on on this football team. They are parts of this
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football team that are still the worst in the National
Football League. That still falls on you as well, the
overall product of what you're putting out there.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's still your responsibility. Yes, mm hmm, yes.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yes, okay, right, wait to see okay. Dak looked like
old dak old dak old slow Dak. I mean talking
about running, talking about getting out of the pocket. He
still scares the hell out of me when he scrambles
because he don't know how to slide. Didn't he played
baseball growing up. That seems like that would be one Jesus, dude,
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is like, don't let you let Like when he drags
that foot, he just kind of falls on his knees.
I hold my breath every time. Thing he's gonna get
up and something's not gonna be pointing the right way.
But like him getting out of the pocket, running, you know,
jogging whatever he was doing like that reminded me. And
I don't think there's anybody there's not a quarterback playing
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better than him right now?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Is there in a league.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
With what he's got, Like the way he's you know,
get rid of the ball, see in the field.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
You know what the odd thing is right now? Like
if you look at like MVP favorites, you look at
the top quarterbacks in the league right now, I would
have said Josh Allen, not having saw him play last night,
but the top three quarterbacks in the league right now,
Dak Prescott, Daniel Jones, and and uh and my guy
in Seattle, Sam Donald, Like those are like the top
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three quarterbacks. Like when you look at the numbers and
like how who's playing the best, it's Dak, Daniel Jones
and Sam Donald.
Speaker 9 (09:40):
Oh guys, go ahead you I'm sure that that trifecta
wasn't on anyone's Bengo card in August that when we
get to Week five, your top three quarterbacks in the.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Whole league, the whole league would be Daniel Jones, Sam
Donald and Dak.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Press No, there's I guarantee you there's nobody, no ticket
in Vegas that has those.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
You could have went to Vegas and did the m
v P odds back in in in August and you
would have I mean, the odds would have been astronomical.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
But that's where we're at today.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
We're sitting at at top of this thing where those
right now are probably your best three and you could
probably throw Baker Mayfield in there.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, Stafford, when you're just talking about bulldog player, that's
that's that's Tampa Bay's quarterback.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
But Dak is playing man. He's playing so confidence, is
playing so just man out of this world.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What's what's different?
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I think there's this a great combination with him his experience.
I mean, that's always been a good football player. His
experience definitely helps him. And now he's he's been married
with the coach that they're just clicking. They're just clicking
and he's seeing the field. He's just in such a way.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
A point in his arc where the physical talent is
matched the the knowledge. He's at that point now where
he's still.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then he's he's in with a coach that really
they're just they won right now.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, Yeah, they are locking step right now.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Is this an example of you know, we talk about
on the show all the time where coaches are very
stubborn and they come in and go, no, this is
the way that I do it, and this is and
you're gonna have to learn how I do it. Is
this an example of a coach listening and spending time
with a quarterback and then said, Okay, here's what you do. Well,
here's what you're comfortable with. Let's build this around what
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you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I think so, I think so?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Is that why?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
And why is that why? Dak was so like we
need this guy? Is that why he was such a
big well for him?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I mean to bring in another guy? Would have been
his fourth offensive coordinator? Right, it would have been his
because he had Garrett, he had Kellen, he had Mike Shoddy.
It would have been his fifth offensive coordinator. Like, nobody
wants to get into year ten where you're like, I
don't want to learn a whole nother system. Like you
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get to that right now, You get to that point
when you get up there in your years, you're just like, man, listen,
I don't want to meet new people.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Like you know what I'm saying. You like, think about that.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You don't start getting new best friends at forty right,
it's just like, oh, who are your friend? That's it
Mark John, Then my boy, that's it. I'm not hey,
good to meet you, Glad to have new coworkers. Don't
need no more new friends. And for Dak, he's just
like we've worked together for the last two years, two
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years right, two years.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Three three.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
I understand him, he understands me. I'm sure they've had
conversations about it, and then they just come together like
and and there's always there's not one coordinator offensively or
defensively that feels if okay. For example, once you become
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like an offensive head coach, like there are things that
because Clayton Adams is considered the offensive coordinator, there are
things that Clayton Adams has in his bag that he's like, man,
I really wish we could do this. That shot he
goes a not really my thing. And then one day
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Clayton will become a play calling offensive coordinator and he'll
run those things right. And so when Shoty's under Mike McCarthy,
I'm sure he had some things that he was like, man,
I really wish we could do this, man, Like, I
really wish we could this. And then Mike's like Michael
from Pittsburgh is like, yeah, yeah, like you know, I'm
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not really comfortable with all that motioning. I'm not really
comfortable with all of this. That personnel doesn't really this
play is not really how I want. So you gotta
just you gotta eat it, you gotta hold on to it.
And then when you get when you get to to
get a guy, you just so he had some things.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
He was like, man, that will be really good at this.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
So he's he was just putting it away and then
when he got a shot, he's like, okay, Dak. Look
the last three years, I mean I thought these were
like a group of players that you would really work
well in and it and they're just flowing right now.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
All right, let me let me let me add on
to that go ahead. That is really really really getting
the ball out of his hands. Yes, I don't know
what the speed is, but uh, I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Kirk gonna tell you he.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The run game is nice. And I want to thank
Chris in the back. Chris Beam. He hooked me up.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I was having a little problems getting pulling things up.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
For us to the little technical difficulty.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, and he pulled some stuff up. Man, I was
able to see it clearly. See what I left and
right tackles was doing. Uh, they're okay, But I am
telling you, brother Dak is getting rid of that ball
and lightning speed and his his awareness for somebody about
to hit him. He he is on time. He is
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on time. And uh, now that run game helps us tremendously.
I mean, my hat's off to Connor. O'Reilly. He got
these guys working, and they're working hard. Uh that running back,
he sticks to his lanes. He gets the most out
of everything.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That good old tar.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Hell, ain't that good old you got?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Don't take the surprise got the boys.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We got football player down there.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You got to You got one called Drake Mayn and
y'all can't even talk to him.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Bless y'all.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
A little football program we got left down there chopping
hill Bill go ruin that man to the ground.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Well, you said, but anyway, that's slam.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
He threw the pickings on that third where the guy
was blitzing the rights.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, got off quick.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
His time to throw his two point eight. But that
doesn't take an account how quick he's getting in there.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Yes, I just it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And now, like Jesse expressed earlier, with him being on
one with the play caller, it's gonna be some shaky times.
We know it's gonna be some shaky times. But here
early in the season, I mean the connection receivers are
running right routes off the hots, they are running it,
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they are putting it there. Man, when CD get back,
if we can stay healthy and bring back some offensive linemen,
because when this second part of the the meat grinders coming,
and the meat grinder come, what Jesse talked about earlier
in the year is gonna be at a premium thirty
plus point because until the defense do it against a
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much better team. And I enjoy this win because it
gives out of another another uh uh nailing in the
coffin to getting his stuff going. But I just believe
when they get equally better, this is where it's gonna
count the most. This is where we needed the drugstore
game here so our secondary can see, so our linebackers
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can see.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Okay, this is where it's supposed to be. This is
how I do it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
This is you know, sometimes you got to have a
little success. Don't lie about stop man, stop, But see
a couple of guys went out and a couple of
young guys came in.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
I mean, it wasn't much better, but at least was
happening quicker.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, at least on TV it looked better. Yeah,
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Thank you blockchain dot Com. Nate, Yes, sir, offensive line,
are they doing well or are they doing well because
Dak's helping them out by getting the ball out really quick.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The run game is working, it's clicking. They're doing a
great job. And the running back it's like I said,
it's maintaining his holes. He's not deviating a whole lot
from the initial two or three first steps. The offense
the middle is better than good. Are tackles are gaining confidence,
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And the reason they're gaining confidence is because they're running
enough to offset those pass rushes. Like you said, the
meat grinders coming. And what we need, what I to
see is for guiding to hurry up and get back
in there and get as many reps as he can
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for this meat grinder. And if it doesn't work, then
we give seventy one a full a full shot at
what it is.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I don't want to play the musical.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I was gonna ask you, are there any guys from
what you've seen that you would leave in there?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
They're not in the middle, now you know the spec
of the left guard. No, Tyler Booker, he's a he
was doing what more you know he was doing He
was good. So we got to put him back in there.
Bb was doing good. We got to put him back
in there. If we had to just make a quick switch, Uh,
it wouldn't be Hoffman. I'll ride with Haffling a little,
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a little longer than most of him. Yeah, but I
need to see Guiding back in there because I want
I need him to get four or five more games,
and because sometime you'll see him and he'll look like
a champ. And then sometime you'll see him you be like, wow, bro,
you just had the perfect set. You just did this.
Now you done fail for the okie dope. You know,
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you be like, come on, bruh.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Does Thomas have any Is he threatening? Is Thomas threatening?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Guy?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Not right now?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Because he's not had enough reps.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You know, I don't believe that you put a guy
in one game and he does well, well, if you okay,
if you like him, you got to put him in
the next game. And if he's faris, well you got it.
And all of a sudden, you know you're getting willy pelted.
You know it's your other guy ain't getting back in.
But you can't say, okay, we'll just split time. You
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can't split time. You'll get your dack is too valuable.
The run game is too valuable. So that's splitting time.
That works in the SEC when you playing the Midwest
Conference or something, but that's that don't work on this
level against Texas. Hey, I felt I couldn't lose m
from Florida, but a a kid for born in Texas.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
I was like, wow, let me tell you a quick story.
And I hate to do this, I really do.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
My son graduated from Texas and I told him Friday,
I say, Son, I say, Texas athletes are equal to
Florida athletes, and in some cases Florida.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Athletes may be a little bit greater.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I say, the worst thing Texas can do is get
behind because these kids athletic ability is equal to y'all
in Texas.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
He just got quiet. He didn't say that we've been
down this road.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Before I say son stonp Texas, I mean stump Florida early,
because if you don't, y'all just may lose this game.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I didn't even get a call on the solid. I
didn't even get it. You right, daddy, you think you
know it all on the solid. I'm not the top kids.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And people may not believe this, but if the top
kids in North Carolina all went to North Carolina, you.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Have a hell of a Yeah, you have a hell
of a school.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like everybody in Georgia now is going to the University
of Georgia.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
But I can remember eight nine years ago it was
just average. Come on, I'm it's athletes in every state. Now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Do you want to stay in your state and support it?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
It's up to you. That meat grinder of the schedule
that you were talking about, You're at Carolina and then
this is I mean, the rest of it's there's no
easy games from the way. The rest of the way.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
We call them on Vegas, Washington, Yeah, at home, Yeah,
at Denver, Arizona at home at Vegas, uh Philly at home,
Kansas City at home, on Thanksgiving at Detroit, Minnesota at home,
the Charterers at home at Washington, and then at the Giants.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
You've got to win like three of the next four here,
don't you think?
Speaker 14 (24:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So what did you say in your heart of hearts?
Where do you think the Cowboys an at?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Right now? They head a schedule.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Of what you thought? Are there the same the same
guys that you think they are. I just think this
is who they are. Uh, win a game here, things
go okay, and all of a sudden we'll be like, oh,
you know, we'll be back.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
To the Jets.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I call it the Jestsey theory thirty five plus. You know,
I just this is what I believe.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Right now, you know, is the Jets who are horrible still.
Aren't we seeing some progression? We're seeing some improvement.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Other guys playing I like that, don't don't don't sit,
pat don't stand pat on guys that weekend and week out?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
You know you just okay, we've seen this before. Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's why I said I want to see Guidon. Hurry up,
guy and get back. Let's see because Thomas is sitting there.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I want to see.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I don't want to wait till week thirteen and then
Thomas pray two good games and oh man, now Thomas
is the man, and he really ain't the man.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I think you about I think they're about where
now they got. They took a different road to get
where they're at, right, but they're about what I thought.
It was gonna take them six games to figure it
out and then you know, six games coming up. I
still don't know if you're gonna know what they are,
but I think they're evolving. It seems like they're figuring
some things out and some guys are getting comfortable. I
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have no idea how the season's gonna end up, because
I didn't give them much of a shot at all.
But I think they're gonna be competitive in every game
every day. They're just hopefully you're there at the end
to keep it interesting. I don't think you're gonna make
a deep playoff run this year, but I think if
you can, if you can sniff the playoffs at the
end of this year with the way you started this
season and all the questions, and I think to me,
(26:44):
that would be that would set you up really good
next year. Now you're gonna miss it, like there's gonna
be some one year guys that you got on this
team that I think are a big part of what's
going on pickings Williams, things like that. But you'll figure
that stuff out.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
But I think they're about where.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Let me say this, demn let jes just roll with
it just as the standings and do now just say
yes or.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
No real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
We figured Buffalo will be leading the AFC East four
and one. Ye, AFC Pittsburgh three and one, Baltimore one
and four.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Did we think that?
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The AFC South Indiana Jones four and one, Jacksonville three
and one.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Did we think Kansas City would be two and two?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Like if go on the roll though? Philadelphia four and one.
Did everybody say they disgrumble? But they four and one,
Washington three and two. That's kind of we kind of
figured us in the Giants fighting the NFC North Detroit
four and one. That's what I thought. That's I'm quite sure.
(27:47):
At let me skip it. Green Bay two one and one.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I thought there would probably be three h three and one. Myself,
I thought this is what I thought they would be.
Speaker 14 (27:58):
You, Uh, the NFC South Tampa Bay four and one,
Atlanta two and two, Carolina, New Orleans on the bottom
fighting it out in the NFC West.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
That's a beast right there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Man four and one, San Francisco three and two, Seattle
three and two. Uh, Los Angeles, that's they may get
three out of there. They tough now, I mean, but
green Bay, especially with the press pressive win against Detroit,
everybody thought they was gonna roll. But we'll see the
(28:34):
next five games, of the next six games, we'll go
through this again and it may switch up.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I mean, but right now.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
That Chicago game for the Cowboys is the clunker. I mean,
everything else, you kind of figured they'd be where they were,
but that Chicago game is so bad. It kind of
set us back some. I think as far as where
we thought this team would be.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Jesse he had him losing that game though, so he.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Was right not like that.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
So I think at this point that took a step
back where we thought we might be.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
But if you look, if you think about every season
as a whole, there's one or two games in there
where you do that you just you know, I think
it's too early to tell, like, is do they still
have that in them? Or when you look back ten
games from now, do you go that was the egg
they laid or is it no? That was really the
team and they were able to pull some of these
out by good coaching, by you know, stellar performances like that.
(29:27):
That's the interesting part right now is like what you
don't really know what they are? A good run team.
Dak's playing out of his mind, not holding onto the ball,
not making a lot of mistakes. How long is that sustainable?
Like he's going to have a bad game? Right that's
where where do you think? Jess, where are they at
right now compared to where you thought they'd be.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I still don't know what this football team is as
a whole, right Like I think not to go as
they are who we thought they were.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
No, but.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I said in August, before any game got played, I said,
Dak will have the best statisticals season he's had in
his career.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
He's on his way.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
I knew offensively from watching what I saw in training camp.
I didn't think the running game would be this good.
I thought that, you because like the standard used to be, like, oh,
your a thousand yard rusher, like in seventeen games, you
only have to average like sixty something yards a game.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Seventy yards used to mean something. It used to mean.
I'm not saying I don't want to diminish it.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
But you gotta be twelve hundred plus.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah, like to get to a thousand doesn't take much
per game to get came, you know, in seventeen in
seventeen weeks. So the running game has been more than
I expected. But offensively, I thought that they would be
where they're at. Dak still leads the league in most
passing at ten. Like the ball is going, you know,
(31:01):
it's getting spread around new that you he would do
that with with the two receivers that he had. I
don't know what this football team is and it's still
unclear on because they a team that was equal to
it better than they lost to in Philadelphia, a team
of that was equal to it better to them. They
tied in Green Bay, Right, they lost to a team
(31:26):
in Chicago, who I don't think Chicago is better than
the Cowboys, right, I don't.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
I don't believe that. And then they beat a team
that we all expect them to beat in New York.
So I'm still in this place.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Of the sample size is too small.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
There's a lot of good things to look at, right,
Like that's playing well, the running game is going well.
The offensive line even in this makeshift, you know, you
haven't bright spots. Some guys like Ryan Flinoy that stuff
is happening. But then I'm like, what makes good football
teams with the ability to go him to compete against
the really good football teams. They're still lacking in some
(32:04):
of those areas. So like, I'm excited about some things,
but I'll still look at some other things and I'm like, that's.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
So what if he's saying what it be safe to say,
I'm two two and one? They are who you thought
they were?
Speaker 7 (32:17):
About the hook, Dinny Green, I just thought about something
that this is completely random and it has nothing to
do with nothing but Chris, Yes, actually, Chris, Chris, Actually.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Where do you think? What you're thinking? Chris?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (32:32):
He went away? But mean what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
He've been listening to the show working about this team?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, are they who you thought they were? Are they
better or they were? So you just haven't made up
your mind.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
I haven't made up my mind yet, Honestly, I.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Really we can't all be like but but we gotta
we have to put like games on top of you
gotta start stacking them.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
We got to stack them.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah, like if you if you go to Carolina and
you let an egg.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Then we were like, Okay, what are we doing? Yeah,
you gotta stack them.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
And I think a lot of us are still carrying
and maybe this is bad, but it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
This is the life of Christmas past.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Yeah, there are there is some PTSD that we still
the years of this, right, So we're looking at this
and they're saying, what has this football team been in
years prior to And there's years of prior to where
they go when they are twelve and five team, But
some of those five losses, you go.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
What team showed up that day? You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
So there's still some of that in here. You watch
this defense weekend and week out. You're just like they're like, oh,
we found the pass for us, but I'm like the
running back was like a couple of yards away from
average and ten yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So it's like it's certain things.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
You're just like, I'm that we thought we had solved.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
I'm still in that how the young kids got six
seven six seven six seven, Like I'm still in that
limbo of what is this football team?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And to Chris's point, you gotta stack them together. You
have to.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
You have to make you have to make those that
are on the fence come to a side, like literally
gotta get on.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I'm I'm still as.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, that's what what was what was your random thought?
Speaker 7 (34:18):
So random thought? Because I hate when people do this
to us, to me, I hate when people do this.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I do.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
But but when people get on Twitter and they say, right,
they'll this is but this comes along with the territory. Right,
this is a part of the job because people will go, well,
you said, well, y'all said.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I'm always like, show me where I said it.
Showed me where we said it. Pull it up.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
So Miss Terry B. She said she was calling in
on Monday, Chris. If we get the phone raised and
it's Terry B. Miss Terry, you let her through. You
let her through, let her through because you're a liar.
Oh and you get on social media and you say
things that I said that we said that. The words
(35:08):
never came out of my mouth or our mouth.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
So what she accused you of, Jesse, just say the
wrong things.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Then she pulled up a clip and I go, I
never said anything that you said I said in the
clip that you pulled up.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
I never said one of those alter alternate reality pieces. Yeah,
I know those people.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Be accountable. Don't be a liar. Call call Chris goal.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Take eight eight eight eight five five two two nine
seven asked for you.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Don't be a fake, Miss.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Jesse. Yeah, all right, call us Miss Terry.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Nobody else, nobody else.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Miss Terry calls, we'll take our last break.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
We'll see if she calls, he will get a text.
I mean.
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I asked you how in the world the Cowboys were
gonna get to twenty two points, and you said, I
don't know, but they are. There were twenty two points
score by the Jets. They got there. It is a
(38:45):
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Speaker 5 (39:18):
And you also your stat to watch was Fields under
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Speaker 3 (39:23):
What did he have?
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Speaker 7 (39:30):
Justin Field's passing the football is absolutely what you want.
There was a play in the game where it was
the longest stunt I've ever seen in my life. Houston
started on one end and he wrapped he was on
the right, whatever side he was on, right or left.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Side, he even wrapped side.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
He wrapped all the way around, like literally his stunt
took him all from one side all the way around.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
So the other side, and he got a sack. Do
you know how lone that is?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
And how lone you have to hold the ball for
d end to go from one side stunt all the
way around and still get to.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
You weave through like through all the but I saw that.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I said this, I said this justin feels guy.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I started laughing.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Terrible, that's a long way to go.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I started laughing.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So Stephen was on the on the fan before when
I was on the drive in, and he was talking
about Houston and he said that Will saw him when
he was a rookie in Detroit and always liked him,
and said that he was telling them like, hey, he's
got eight sacks and he's only playing twenty percent of
the snaps. When you got a guy that's that productive
(40:49):
with that low of a snap count, is he one
of those guys where do you try to give him
more snaps or do you try to keep him limited?
Because that's where he's most effective. And I know we've
talked about a lot of those guys.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That he's just a specialist. Use him, Use him as
a specialist, don't me. I wouldn't ask him to do more,
but if it's a past situation, I got to give
him a shot.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
A part of what can I guess Houston off the
field more than musically. He's a small dude, but he's
not a he's not a big guy. It was the
injuries and then, like most and even mister Jones took
a shot at Micah, unprovoked shot at Micah. But he
(41:30):
because of James Houston's size, he struggles in the run game, right,
And so to Nate's point, he becomes a higher assassin.
You you let him go out there. You know, fifteen
snaps a game, seventeen snaps a game as a higher gun.
Go get the quarterback. We're not looking for you to
stop the run. We're not looking for you to do
Go get the quarterback. Create as much chaos and havoc
(41:52):
as you possibly can on your way to the quarterback.
And that's okay, Like that's that's it's o k to
have a role, right, Like we always want to make
people starters and stars and all that kind of stuff.
But when you look at the good teams that win championships,
they are designated roles. That was the one thing that
(42:14):
I respected about New England and during their dynasty run
and getting a chance to be a part of a
team there in New England briefly, when Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Was good at what he did, he ain't so good.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
Now, that's an unprovoked shot at the right, It was unprovoked,
But I'm just so.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
But They were very very specific in I need you
to do this.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Do your job like, this is what I need you
to do in this offense and or in this defense.
Nothing else. I'm not asking you to be Randy Moss.
I'm not asking you to be Grunk. I'm not asking
you to be Ty Lawe. I'm not asking you to
be Vitch Wolfork. I'm asking you to be.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
This.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Can you do this at an A plus level? Now
that for a guy like Matthew Slater played thirteen years
in the National for fifteen years, I believe some something crazy,
it was just be a special teammates.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
That's it. I don't need to do nothing else, I think.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
I think in all the years that Matthews later played
in the NFL, he was listed as a wide receiver,
and he played ten plus years, he might have had
under one hundred receptions in ten years. He went to
seven Pro Bowls as a special teams player.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
So, I don't need eleven MICHAEH.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Parsons. I don't need eleven Dak Prescott's. I don't need
eleven CD lambs. I need a CD Lamb, I need
a Dak, I need a Micah. But then I need
other guys to do specifically what you're designed and assigned
to do, but don't just do it regularly. You have
to be an ace add it pro And for James
(44:01):
Houston and those fifteen players, you don't always have to
get to the quarterback. But I need I need your
I need that presence to be felt at a very
high level. And when you go out there and play,
because you we we if we played you for fifty
five snaps, we're probably not gonna get that. But if
I play you for fifteen for seventeen, I can assure
(44:22):
that I get that level of productivity. And that's what
makes good teams good is having that level of depth
where you go, you're gonna do this for us.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
And don't let And your job as the coaches is
gently always remind them because players will forget I can
do this, and then they put you out there. You
get trapped eight hundred yards down the field. No, no, no,
if you don't like what you're doing, sign next. You
know that's what that competition mean. Next, you know, And
(44:53):
before we get out of here, what why was why
why did.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
We see old Dante Fowler? What what well happened to
different block?
Speaker 12 (45:05):
Him.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I'm just gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
If he just ran in there.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
There was two or three times he just ran in
the right like I think he shot this damn self.
Speaker 7 (45:14):
He came off. It was like, oh snap. They didn't
like little. I think two of his sacks.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
One time he was inside that he was inside the
tight end I want to say tight end and the
tackle was right here.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
He was in the gap. The tackle went down and
the tight ende just working.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
He was like, and then he ran to the running
back because he's like, okay, the running back got in.
The running back ran away from it.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Sometimes thought I was on the one so that some
things just happened for you. Yeah, And like I said.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
He got up kicking like he was Ray Lewis. I'm like, yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
I don't know if it was a different scheme or
if he was just more motivated or what, but he was.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
It was a drugstore cowboys, man. They was in that
thing getting all they can get.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Brow they wasn't.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah, the Jets were just they're bad.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
But see what I didn't want to do like I
normally do. Remember last week and we said wait on.
That's why I wanted to wait on. Jess because even
when he came, I didn't want to do my normal.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
Man, he's so bad, I don't even want to.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
But I made myself watchjisicate. Jesse took another day, you know,
here he goes. Yeah, he'll be here tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
If y'all want to see hater Jesse, he'll be saving
it for tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
What's your lady names?
Speaker 5 (46:35):
She ain't gonna call it now, Terry, She don't.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
She don't want that smoke, you know. She don't want
to be held accountable. That's what I say.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
Ladies out there, come on now, y'all gotta stop dipping
this accountability. Ladies out there, y'all gotta stop dipping. Not
all of y'all, but some of y'all gotta stop but
dipping this accountability. Now, it's okay to be accountable to
what you say.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Hey, and I want to say to Pickings, Dickens, Pickens,
I want to save my brother. You took that smoke
on that slant. They didn't get you like that, you know,
but you took that smoke, and I got to say, yes,
sir when you A lot of people don't take that
smoke on that on them slants because they it was coming,
(47:16):
but for some reason they didn't bring it to it.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
But he caught that rock.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Hey, I'm liking that, which they just I'm liking that.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
I like George pickens Man. Yeah, we got new wide
receiver number one. Now I'm just messing.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
With Yeah, I don't do that.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Don't talk about him tomorrow. You talking about him tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Flowing up?
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Number one receive number one, baby flowing up.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
Now, we got one A, one B and one c.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Hunh, we'll talk about it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Tomorrow, my tight end, dude, his job broke in five
yard rushing hour.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Hey, fellas, the season ain lost. We're gonna be here
two and one. We're gonna have a good time for
at least until week fourteen. Now, it was after.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
I'm gonna say, direc quick, it's a one game, and
I said, how long he is gonna before?
Speaker 6 (48:08):
Boy Philadelphia Trump.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
And one week at a time. Let's let's go away
to Carolina.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
Let's Chris, thanks for keeping us over there, Josh, thanks
for keeping him company. Come back tomorrow, hater Jesse, We'll
be on the ship. Hang it with the boys.
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Speaker 7 (01:30):
We I got tart the show with a couple of shoutouts.
Shout out huh nothing, oh Josh, not that Josh in
the back. Another Josh met Josh when I was out
and about Saturday afternoon. Saturday afternoon, he came up to me,
said he loved the show. And there was another gentleman
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I didn't get his name, older black gentleman was out
with his sons.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's somethings. I mean, two big old boys.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I was.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
I looked at them. I was like, am I mean
two big old boys that's out with their family and uh.
And he walked up on them and he was like, man,
you look familiar.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I said me.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
He's like, yeah you. I was like, I don't know
to tell you. He was like, you look like Jesse Holly.
I was like, he said, man, you just Holly. I
said yeah, man, and so so shout out. I'm sorry
I didn't get your name, but shout out to you.
My brother saw him out and about mouch scatter of
your kids than you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Nice kids, was like he was big.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
All of them was like love with Jack.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, six five six six, big family.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I thought you was gonna say you look familiar you
Isaiah stand back?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Oh no, I would have shot off that. I mighta
kicked him in the shin oh for that.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Well, thanks for listening to the show. Shout out to everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yes, mother, brother.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
How we feeling today? You know it's the Jets, but
you did what you were supposed to do. Nate as
an offensive lineman, how good does it feel to see
the running game? It's even by kind a makeshift where
you have one one starter on the offensive line. I
mean this, this game had every makings of this could
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be one of those disastrous games where you lose to
the Jets and they they came out and they dominated men.
The score was it thirty seven to twenty two? It
wasn't even that close, man, it was so how you
feel about it, Eate?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I feel great, man. It's good to be back in
the driver seat. It's good to just say thank you
to the pharmacy, the New York Jets, thank you.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
What's that quarter?
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Mister Fields, thank you for not even trying to run.
I love you for that. Let us sack you. I
love that. Yeah, you kind of did it worse than job, brother,
you know what. Jets. Let me say this and you guys,
Shannony Kirk.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
When you have a gift and God has given you
a gift and you're about to be in a position
to use that gift. And you just saw a film
saying I know I can do this real well, But
the other teams did it like this.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But you know, I even tweeted it out.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
I said, I said, thank God that Justin Fields is
a runner and not.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
A touch pass thrower.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Right, I'm like, because if he was a thrower, it
was a couple of ones that he would have had
that would have resulted probably in touchdown.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
But he just isn't.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
He's just he's just not a he's not a good quarterback.
And I'm with you. And this also goes to coaching,
and we'll speak about how our coaching has become.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
A difference asset.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Yes, like you know, he's our coaching has become an
asset to the team's success. To your point, Nate, is
this is where coaching not actually matters at times. If
you know that there is a special gift that this
kid has utilize it at least more often. Now, I'm
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glad that they didn't. I'm glad that he wants to
prove to the world that he's a pocket passer. Fine
with me when I know that you're processing and decision
making from the pocket.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Is it the best?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And you hold the ball way too long? Fine with me.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Thank you for trying to be something that you're not
right now, and you allowed us to get something going
that we haven't been able to get going in four
weeks prior to meeting up with you in that game.
But that's the difference between you. Always look at what
makes good teams good teams. Yes, yes, it is good
Jimmy's and Joe's, and it's also good coaching that allows
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you to flourish in the goals and gifts that you have.
And they just a bad football team there in New
York Jets.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
So we on, are you on the team?
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Show?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
You gonna give it a few more weeks?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I was never not on team shotting? What did that?
What did that narrative?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You weren't on team shotting, You weren't against it, You
were just kind of waiting. See you gave a man
a year before you ran him out of town.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Yeah, And like so I would ask this question earlier.
Do you want me to judge him as a head
coach or do you want me to judge him as
a play caller?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Both as a play caller.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He's cooking is an a okay? All right?
Speaker 7 (06:24):
As a head coach, still too and one waiting. We're
still waiting to see what you are as a head coach.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Don't You don't, but you don't like the fact that
he's two two and one with that team he hads,
Oh you mean, like, is he getting more out of
him than he's he's you know, those guys put together
a backup offensive line, had a good game. That kind
of thing is are the guys.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
You're gonna You're gonna make me do something that I
told myself that I would.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Not do for at least two days. No, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Get in trouble.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
But I don't want to sour the victory, right like, yeah,
way to So it's like, as a head coach, I
would give him an excuse me as an offensive play
caller right now?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So you so you got a mechanism in place to
take yourself.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Because people will say, Jesse, you won, and I want
to celebrate the win.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I want to celebrate in the morning, Monday, celebrate way.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
You almost got me, my boy, I didn't know where
we're going down that road.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Monday.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
I'm celebrating today. I'll bring back the truth sometimes may
not want to hear.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I'll bring that.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
But as a play caller, Brian Schottenheimer right now is cooking.
He is in his bag. But again, you're a you're
the head football coach. You're responsible for everything that goes
on on this football team. They are parts of this
(07:56):
football team that are still the worst in the National
Football League. That still falls on you as well, the
overall product of what you're putting out there.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's still your responsibility. Yes, mm hmm, yes.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yes, okay, right, wait to see okay. Dak looked like
old dak old dak old slow Dak. I mean talking
about running, talking about getting out of the pocket. He
still scares the hell out of me when he scrambles
because he don't know how to slide. Didn't he played
baseball growing up. That seems like that would be one Jesus, dude,
(08:33):
is like, don't let you let Like when he drags
that foot, he just kind of falls on his knees.
I hold my breath every time. Thing he's gonna get
up and something's not gonna be pointing the right way.
But like him getting out of the pocket, running, you know,
jogging whatever he was doing like that reminded me. And
I don't think there's anybody there's not a quarterback playing
(08:55):
better than him right now?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Is there in a league.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
With what he's got, Like the way he's you know,
get rid of the ball, see in the field.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
You know what the odd thing is right now? Like
if you look at like MVP favorites, you look at
the top quarterbacks in the league right now, I would
have said Josh Allen, not having saw him play last night,
but the top three quarterbacks in the league right now,
Dak Prescott, Daniel Jones, and and uh and my guy
in Seattle, Sam Donald, Like those are like the top
(09:31):
three quarterbacks. Like when you look at the numbers and
like how who's playing the best, it's Dak, Daniel Jones
and Sam Donald.
Speaker 9 (09:40):
Oh guys, go ahead you I'm sure that that trifecta
wasn't on anyone's Bengo card in August that when we
get to Week five, your top three quarterbacks in the.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Whole league, the whole league would be Daniel Jones, Sam
Donald and Dak.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Press No, there's I guarantee you there's nobody, no ticket
in Vegas that has those.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
You could have went to Vegas and did the m
v P odds back in in in August and you
would have I mean, the odds would have been astronomical.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
But that's where we're at today.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
We're sitting at at top of this thing where those
right now are probably your best three and you could
probably throw Baker Mayfield in there.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, Stafford, when you're just talking about bulldog player, that's
that's that's Tampa Bay's quarterback.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
But Dak is playing man. He's playing so confidence, is
playing so just man out of this world.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What's what's different?
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I think there's this a great combination with him his experience.
I mean, that's always been a good football player. His
experience definitely helps him. And now he's he's been married
with the coach that they're just clicking. They're just clicking
and he's seeing the field. He's just in such a way.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
A point in his arc where the physical talent is
matched the the knowledge. He's at that point now where
he's still.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then he's he's in with a coach that really
they're just they won right now.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, Yeah, they are locking step right now.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Is this an example of you know, we talk about
on the show all the time where coaches are very
stubborn and they come in and go, no, this is
the way that I do it, and this is and
you're gonna have to learn how I do it. Is
this an example of a coach listening and spending time
with a quarterback and then said, Okay, here's what you do. Well,
here's what you're comfortable with. Let's build this around what
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you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I think so, I think so?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Is that why?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
And why is that why? Dak was so like we
need this guy? Is that why he was such a
big well for him?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I mean to bring in another guy? Would have been
his fourth offensive coordinator? Right, it would have been his
because he had Garrett, he had Kellen, he had Mike Shoddy.
It would have been his fifth offensive coordinator. Like, nobody
wants to get into year ten where you're like, I
don't want to learn a whole nother system. Like you
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get to that right now, You get to that point
when you get up there in your years, you're just like, man, listen,
I don't want to meet new people.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Like you know what I'm saying. You like, think about that.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You don't start getting new best friends at forty right,
it's just like, oh, who are your friend? That's it
Mark John, Then my boy, that's it. I'm not hey,
good to meet you, Glad to have new coworkers. Don't
need no more new friends. And for Dak, he's just
like we've worked together for the last two years, two
(12:43):
years right, two years.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Three three.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
I understand him, he understands me. I'm sure they've had
conversations about it, and then they just come together like
and and there's always there's not one coordinator offensively or
defensively that feels if okay. For example, once you become
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like an offensive head coach, like there are things that
because Clayton Adams is considered the offensive coordinator, there are
things that Clayton Adams has in his bag that he's like, man,
I really wish we could do this. That shot he
goes a not really my thing. And then one day
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Clayton will become a play calling offensive coordinator and he'll
run those things right. And so when Shoty's under Mike McCarthy,
I'm sure he had some things that he was like, man,
I really wish we could do this, man, Like, I
really wish we could this. And then Mike's like Michael
from Pittsburgh is like, yeah, yeah, like you know, I'm
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not really comfortable with all that motioning. I'm not really
comfortable with all of this. That personnel doesn't really this
play is not really how I want. So you gotta
just you gotta eat it, you gotta hold on to it.
And then when you get when you get to to
get a guy, you just so he had some things.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
He was like, man, that will be really good at this.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
So he's he was just putting it away and then
when he got a shot, he's like, okay, Dak. Look
the last three years, I mean I thought these were
like a group of players that you would really work
well in and it and they're just flowing right now.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
All right, let me let me let me add on
to that go ahead. That is really really really getting
the ball out of his hands. Yes, I don't know
what the speed is, but uh, I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Kirk gonna tell you he.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The run game is nice. And I want to thank
Chris in the back. Chris Beam. He hooked me up.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I was having a little problems getting pulling things up.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
For us to the little technical difficulty.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, and he pulled some stuff up. Man, I was
able to see it clearly. See what I left and
right tackles was doing. Uh, they're okay, But I am
telling you, brother Dak is getting rid of that ball
and lightning speed and his his awareness for somebody about
to hit him. He he is on time. He is
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on time. And uh, now that run game helps us tremendously.
I mean, my hat's off to Connor. O'Reilly. He got
these guys working, and they're working hard. Uh that running back,
he sticks to his lanes. He gets the most out
of everything.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That good old tar.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Hell, ain't that good old you got?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Don't take the surprise got the boys.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We got football player down there.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You got to You got one called Drake Mayn and
y'all can't even talk to him.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Bless y'all.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
A little football program we got left down there chopping
hill Bill go ruin that man to the ground.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Well, you said, but anyway, that's slam.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
He threw the pickings on that third where the guy
was blitzing the rights.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, got off quick.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
His time to throw his two point eight. But that
doesn't take an account how quick he's getting in there.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Yes, I just it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And now, like Jesse expressed earlier, with him being on
one with the play caller, it's gonna be some shaky times.
We know it's gonna be some shaky times. But here
early in the season, I mean the connection receivers are
running right routes off the hots, they are running it,
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they are putting it there. Man, when CD get back,
if we can stay healthy and bring back some offensive linemen,
because when this second part of the the meat grinders coming,
and the meat grinder come, what Jesse talked about earlier
in the year is gonna be at a premium thirty
plus point because until the defense do it against a
(16:56):
much better team. And I enjoy this win because it
gives out of another another uh uh nailing in the
coffin to getting his stuff going. But I just believe
when they get equally better, this is where it's gonna
count the most. This is where we needed the drugstore
game here so our secondary can see, so our linebackers
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can see.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Okay, this is where it's supposed to be. This is
how I do it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
This is you know, sometimes you got to have a
little success. Don't lie about stop man, stop, But see
a couple of guys went out and a couple of
young guys came in.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
I mean, it wasn't much better, but at least was
happening quicker.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, at least on TV it looked better. Yeah,
all right, let's take our first break when we come back.
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Welcome back to the second segment. Hanging On with the Boys,
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Thank you blockchain dot Com. Nate, Yes, sir, offensive line,
are they doing well or are they doing well because
Dak's helping them out by getting the ball out really quick.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The run game is working, it's clicking. They're doing a
great job. And the running back it's like I said,
it's maintaining his holes. He's not deviating a whole lot
from the initial two or three first steps. The offense
the middle is better than good. Are tackles are gaining confidence,
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And the reason they're gaining confidence is because they're running
enough to offset those pass rushes. Like you said, the
meat grinders coming. And what we need, what I to
see is for guiding to hurry up and get back
in there and get as many reps as he can
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for this meat grinder. And if it doesn't work, then
we give seventy one a full a full shot at
what it is.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I don't want to play the musical.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I was gonna ask you, are there any guys from
what you've seen that you would leave in there?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
They're not in the middle, now you know the spec
of the left guard. No, Tyler Booker, he's a he
was doing what more you know he was doing He
was good. So we got to put him back in there.
Bb was doing good. We got to put him back
in there. If we had to just make a quick switch, Uh,
it wouldn't be Hoffman. I'll ride with Haffling a little,
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a little longer than most of him. Yeah, but I
need to see Guiding back in there because I want
I need him to get four or five more games,
and because sometime you'll see him and he'll look like
a champ. And then sometime you'll see him you be like, wow, bro,
you just had the perfect set. You just did this.
Now you done fail for the okie dope. You know,
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you be like, come on, bruh.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Does Thomas have any Is he threatening? Is Thomas threatening?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Guy?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Not right now?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Because he's not had enough reps.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You know, I don't believe that you put a guy
in one game and he does well, well, if you okay,
if you like him, you got to put him in
the next game. And if he's faris, well you got it.
And all of a sudden, you know you're getting willy pelted.
You know it's your other guy ain't getting back in.
But you can't say, okay, we'll just split time. You
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can't split time. You'll get your dack is too valuable.
The run game is too valuable. So that's splitting time.
That works in the SEC when you playing the Midwest
Conference or something, but that's that don't work on this
level against Texas. Hey, I felt I couldn't lose m
from Florida, but a a kid for born in Texas.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
I was like, wow, let me tell you a quick story.
And I hate to do this, I really do.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
My son graduated from Texas and I told him Friday,
I say, Son, I say, Texas athletes are equal to
Florida athletes, and in some cases Florida.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Athletes may be a little bit greater.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I say, the worst thing Texas can do is get
behind because these kids athletic ability is equal to y'all
in Texas.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
He just got quiet. He didn't say that we've been
down this road.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Before I say son stonp Texas, I mean stump Florida early,
because if you don't, y'all just may lose this game.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I didn't even get a call on the solid. I
didn't even get it. You right, daddy, you think you
know it all on the solid. I'm not the top kids.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And people may not believe this, but if the top
kids in North Carolina all went to North Carolina, you.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Have a hell of a Yeah, you have a hell
of a school.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like everybody in Georgia now is going to the University
of Georgia.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
But I can remember eight nine years ago it was
just average. Come on, I'm it's athletes in every state. Now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Do you want to stay in your state and support it?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
It's up to you. That meat grinder of the schedule
that you were talking about, You're at Carolina and then
this is I mean, the rest of it's there's no
easy games from the way. The rest of the way.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
We call them on Vegas, Washington, Yeah, at home, Yeah,
at Denver, Arizona at home at Vegas, uh Philly at home,
Kansas City at home, on Thanksgiving at Detroit, Minnesota at home,
the Charterers at home at Washington, and then at the Giants.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
You've got to win like three of the next four here,
don't you think?
Speaker 14 (24:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So what did you say in your heart of hearts?
Where do you think the Cowboys an at?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Right now? They head a schedule.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Of what you thought? Are there the same the same
guys that you think they are. I just think this
is who they are. Uh, win a game here, things
go okay, and all of a sudden we'll be like, oh,
you know, we'll be back.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
To the Jets.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I call it the Jestsey theory thirty five plus. You know,
I just this is what I believe.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Right now, you know, is the Jets who are horrible still.
Aren't we seeing some progression? We're seeing some improvement.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Other guys playing I like that, don't don't don't sit,
pat don't stand pat on guys that weekend and week out?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
You know you just okay, we've seen this before. Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's why I said I want to see Guidon. Hurry up,
guy and get back. Let's see because Thomas is sitting there.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I want to see.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I don't want to wait till week thirteen and then
Thomas pray two good games and oh man, now Thomas
is the man, and he really ain't the man.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I think you about I think they're about where
now they got. They took a different road to get
where they're at, right, but they're about what I thought.
It was gonna take them six games to figure it
out and then you know, six games coming up. I
still don't know if you're gonna know what they are,
but I think they're evolving. It seems like they're figuring
some things out and some guys are getting comfortable. I
(26:21):
have no idea how the season's gonna end up, because
I didn't give them much of a shot at all.
But I think they're gonna be competitive in every game
every day. They're just hopefully you're there at the end
to keep it interesting. I don't think you're gonna make
a deep playoff run this year, but I think if
you can, if you can sniff the playoffs at the
end of this year with the way you started this
season and all the questions, and I think to me,
(26:44):
that would be that would set you up really good
next year. Now you're gonna miss it, like there's gonna
be some one year guys that you got on this
team that I think are a big part of what's
going on pickings Williams, things like that. But you'll figure
that stuff out.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
But I think they're about where.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Let me say this, demn let jes just roll with
it just as the standings and do now just say
yes or.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
No real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
We figured Buffalo will be leading the AFC East four
and one. Ye, AFC Pittsburgh three and one, Baltimore one
and four.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Did we think that?
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The AFC South Indiana Jones four and one, Jacksonville three
and one.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Did we think Kansas City would be two and two?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Like if go on the roll though? Philadelphia four and one.
Did everybody say they disgrumble? But they four and one,
Washington three and two. That's kind of we kind of
figured us in the Giants fighting the NFC North Detroit
four and one. That's what I thought. That's I'm quite sure.
(27:47):
At let me skip it. Green Bay two one and one.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I thought there would probably be three h three and one. Myself,
I thought this is what I thought they would be.
Speaker 14 (27:58):
You, Uh, the NFC South Tampa Bay four and one,
Atlanta two and two, Carolina, New Orleans on the bottom
fighting it out in the NFC West.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
That's a beast right there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Man four and one, San Francisco three and two, Seattle
three and two. Uh, Los Angeles, that's they may get
three out of there. They tough now, I mean, but
green Bay, especially with the press pressive win against Detroit,
everybody thought they was gonna roll. But we'll see the
(28:34):
next five games, of the next six games, we'll go
through this again and it may switch up.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I mean, but right now.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
That Chicago game for the Cowboys is the clunker. I mean,
everything else, you kind of figured they'd be where they were,
but that Chicago game is so bad. It kind of
set us back some. I think as far as where
we thought this team would be.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Jesse he had him losing that game though, so he.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Was right not like that.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
So I think at this point that took a step
back where we thought we might be.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
But if you look, if you think about every season
as a whole, there's one or two games in there
where you do that you just you know, I think
it's too early to tell, like, is do they still
have that in them? Or when you look back ten
games from now, do you go that was the egg
they laid or is it no? That was really the
team and they were able to pull some of these
out by good coaching, by you know, stellar performances like that.
(29:27):
That's the interesting part right now is like what you
don't really know what they are? A good run team.
Dak's playing out of his mind, not holding onto the ball,
not making a lot of mistakes. How long is that sustainable?
Like he's going to have a bad game? Right that's
where where do you think? Jess, where are they at
right now compared to where you thought they'd be.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I still don't know what this football team is as
a whole, right Like I think not to go as
they are who we thought they were.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
No, but.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I said in August, before any game got played, I said,
Dak will have the best statisticals season he's had in
his career.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
He's on his way.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
I knew offensively from watching what I saw in training camp.
I didn't think the running game would be this good.
I thought that, you because like the standard used to be, like, oh,
your a thousand yard rusher, like in seventeen games, you
only have to average like sixty something yards a game.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Seventy yards used to mean something. It used to mean.
I'm not saying I don't want to diminish it.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
But you gotta be twelve hundred plus.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah, like to get to a thousand doesn't take much
per game to get came, you know, in seventeen in
seventeen weeks. So the running game has been more than
I expected. But offensively, I thought that they would be
where they're at. Dak still leads the league in most
passing at ten. Like the ball is going, you know,
(31:01):
it's getting spread around new that you he would do
that with with the two receivers that he had. I
don't know what this football team is and it's still
unclear on because they a team that was equal to
it better than they lost to in Philadelphia, a team
of that was equal to it better to them. They
tied in Green Bay, Right, they lost to a team
(31:26):
in Chicago, who I don't think Chicago is better than
the Cowboys, right, I don't.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
I don't believe that. And then they beat a team
that we all expect them to beat in New York.
So I'm still in this place.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Of the sample size is too small.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
There's a lot of good things to look at, right,
Like that's playing well, the running game is going well.
The offensive line even in this makeshift, you know, you
haven't bright spots. Some guys like Ryan Flinoy that stuff
is happening. But then I'm like, what makes good football
teams with the ability to go him to compete against
the really good football teams. They're still lacking in some
(32:04):
of those areas. So like, I'm excited about some things,
but I'll still look at some other things and I'm like, that's.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
So what if he's saying what it be safe to say,
I'm two two and one? They are who you thought
they were?
Speaker 7 (32:17):
About the hook, Dinny Green, I just thought about something
that this is completely random and it has nothing to
do with nothing but Chris, Yes, actually, Chris, Chris, Actually.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Where do you think? What you're thinking? Chris?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (32:32):
He went away? But mean what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
He've been listening to the show working about this team?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, are they who you thought they were? Are they
better or they were? So you just haven't made up
your mind.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
I haven't made up my mind yet, Honestly, I.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Really we can't all be like but but we gotta
we have to put like games on top of you
gotta start stacking them.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
We got to stack them.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah, like if you if you go to Carolina and
you let an egg.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Then we were like, Okay, what are we doing? Yeah,
you gotta stack them.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
And I think a lot of us are still carrying
and maybe this is bad, but it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
This is the life of Christmas past.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Yeah, there are there is some PTSD that we still
the years of this, right, So we're looking at this
and they're saying, what has this football team been in
years prior to And there's years of prior to where
they go when they are twelve and five team, But
some of those five losses, you go.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
What team showed up that day? You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
So there's still some of that in here. You watch
this defense weekend and week out. You're just like they're like, oh,
we found the pass for us, but I'm like the
running back was like a couple of yards away from
average and ten yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So it's like it's certain things.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
You're just like, I'm that we thought we had solved.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
I'm still in that how the young kids got six
seven six seven six seven, Like I'm still in that
limbo of what is this football team?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And to Chris's point, you gotta stack them together. You
have to.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
You have to make you have to make those that
are on the fence come to a side, like literally
gotta get on.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I'm I'm still as.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, that's what what was what was your random thought?
Speaker 7 (34:18):
So random thought? Because I hate when people do this
to us, to me, I hate when people do this.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I do.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
But but when people get on Twitter and they say, right,
they'll this is but this comes along with the territory. Right,
this is a part of the job because people will go, well,
you said, well, y'all said.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I'm always like, show me where I said it.
Showed me where we said it. Pull it up.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
So Miss Terry B. She said she was calling in
on Monday, Chris. If we get the phone raised and
it's Terry B. Miss Terry, you let her through. You
let her through, let her through because you're a liar.
Oh and you get on social media and you say
things that I said that we said that. The words
(35:08):
never came out of my mouth or our mouth.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
So what she accused you of, Jesse, just say the
wrong things.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Then she pulled up a clip and I go, I
never said anything that you said I said in the
clip that you pulled up.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
I never said one of those alter alternate reality pieces. Yeah,
I know those people.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Be accountable. Don't be a liar. Call call Chris goal.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Take eight eight eight eight five five two two nine
seven asked for you.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Don't be a fake, Miss.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Jesse. Yeah, all right, call us Miss Terry.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Nobody else, nobody else.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Miss Terry calls, we'll take our last break.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
We'll see if she calls, he will get a text.
I mean.
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the show down the streets eleven and Jesse on Friday,
I asked you how in the world the Cowboys were
gonna get to twenty two points, and you said, I
don't know, but they are. There were twenty two points
score by the Jets. They got there. It is a
(38:45):
possible score in the NFL. So congratulations, Kurt Oh. You
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Speaker 7 (39:04):
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he's now oh and twenty six. When a Justin Fields
led football team opponents scores twenty one or more points.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
And you also your stat to watch was Fields under
fifty yards rushing?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
What did he have?
Speaker 5 (39:24):
He had twenty six twenty six. So there you go.
Listen to the show on Fridays and get that knowledge.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Justin Field's passing the football is absolutely what you want.
There was a play in the game where it was
the longest stunt I've ever seen in my life. Houston
started on one end and he wrapped he was on
the right, whatever side he was on, right or left.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Side, he even wrapped side.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
He wrapped all the way around, like literally his stunt
took him all from one side all the way around.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
So the other side, and he got a sack. Do
you know how lone that is?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
And how lone you have to hold the ball for
d end to go from one side stunt all the
way around and still get to.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
You weave through like through all the but I saw that.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I said this, I said this justin feels guy.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I started laughing.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Terrible, that's a long way to go.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I started laughing.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So Stephen was on the on the fan before when
I was on the drive in, and he was talking
about Houston and he said that Will saw him when
he was a rookie in Detroit and always liked him,
and said that he was telling them like, hey, he's
got eight sacks and he's only playing twenty percent of
the snaps. When you got a guy that's that productive
(40:49):
with that low of a snap count, is he one
of those guys where do you try to give him
more snaps or do you try to keep him limited?
Because that's where he's most effective. And I know we've
talked about a lot of those guys.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That he's just a specialist. Use him, Use him as
a specialist, don't me. I wouldn't ask him to do more,
but if it's a past situation, I got to give
him a shot.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
A part of what can I guess Houston off the
field more than musically. He's a small dude, but he's
not a he's not a big guy. It was the
injuries and then, like most and even mister Jones took
a shot at Micah, unprovoked shot at Micah. But he
(41:30):
because of James Houston's size, he struggles in the run game, right,
And so to Nate's point, he becomes a higher assassin.
You you let him go out there. You know, fifteen
snaps a game, seventeen snaps a game as a higher gun.
Go get the quarterback. We're not looking for you to
stop the run. We're not looking for you to do
Go get the quarterback. Create as much chaos and havoc
(41:52):
as you possibly can on your way to the quarterback.
And that's okay, Like that's that's it's o k to
have a role, right, Like we always want to make
people starters and stars and all that kind of stuff.
But when you look at the good teams that win championships,
they are designated roles. That was the one thing that
(42:14):
I respected about New England and during their dynasty run
and getting a chance to be a part of a
team there in New England briefly, when Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Was good at what he did, he ain't so good.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
Now, that's an unprovoked shot at the right, It was unprovoked,
But I'm just so.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
But They were very very specific in I need you
to do this.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Do your job like, this is what I need you
to do in this offense and or in this defense.
Nothing else. I'm not asking you to be Randy Moss.
I'm not asking you to be Grunk. I'm not asking
you to be Ty Lawe. I'm not asking you to
be Vitch Wolfork. I'm asking you to be.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
This.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Can you do this at an A plus level? Now
that for a guy like Matthew Slater played thirteen years
in the National for fifteen years, I believe some something crazy,
it was just be a special teammates.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
That's it. I don't need to do nothing else, I think.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
I think in all the years that Matthews later played
in the NFL, he was listed as a wide receiver,
and he played ten plus years, he might have had
under one hundred receptions in ten years. He went to
seven Pro Bowls as a special teams player.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
So, I don't need eleven MICHAEH.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Parsons. I don't need eleven Dak Prescott's. I don't need
eleven CD lambs. I need a CD Lamb, I need
a Dak, I need a Micah. But then I need
other guys to do specifically what you're designed and assigned
to do, but don't just do it regularly. You have
to be an ace add it pro And for James
(44:01):
Houston and those fifteen players, you don't always have to
get to the quarterback. But I need I need your
I need that presence to be felt at a very
high level. And when you go out there and play,
because you we we if we played you for fifty
five snaps, we're probably not gonna get that. But if
I play you for fifteen for seventeen, I can assure
(44:22):
that I get that level of productivity. And that's what
makes good teams good is having that level of depth
where you go, you're gonna do this for us.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
And don't let And your job as the coaches is
gently always remind them because players will forget I can
do this, and then they put you out there. You
get trapped eight hundred yards down the field. No, no, no,
if you don't like what you're doing, sign next. You
know that's what that competition mean. Next, you know, And
(44:53):
before we get out of here, what why was why
why did.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
We see old Dante Fowler? What what well happened to
different block?
Speaker 12 (45:05):
Him.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I'm just gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
If he just ran in there.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
There was two or three times he just ran in
the right like I think he shot this damn self.
Speaker 7 (45:14):
He came off. It was like, oh snap. They didn't
like little. I think two of his sacks.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
One time he was inside that he was inside the
tight end I want to say tight end and the
tackle was right here.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
He was in the gap. The tackle went down and
the tight ende just working.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
He was like, and then he ran to the running
back because he's like, okay, the running back got in.
The running back ran away from it.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Sometimes thought I was on the one so that some
things just happened for you. Yeah, And like I said.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
He got up kicking like he was Ray Lewis. I'm like, yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
I don't know if it was a different scheme or
if he was just more motivated or what, but he was.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
It was a drugstore cowboys, man. They was in that
thing getting all they can get.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Brow they wasn't.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah, the Jets were just they're bad.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
But see what I didn't want to do like I
normally do. Remember last week and we said wait on.
That's why I wanted to wait on. Jess because even
when he came, I didn't want to do my normal.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
Man, he's so bad, I don't even want to.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
But I made myself watchjisicate. Jesse took another day, you know,
here he goes. Yeah, he'll be here tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
If y'all want to see hater Jesse, he'll be saving
it for tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
What's your lady names?
Speaker 5 (46:35):
She ain't gonna call it now, Terry, She don't.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
She don't want that smoke, you know. She don't want
to be held accountable. That's what I say.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
Ladies out there, come on now, y'all gotta stop dipping
this accountability. Ladies out there, y'all gotta stop dipping. Not
all of y'all, but some of y'all gotta stop but
dipping this accountability. Now, it's okay to be accountable to
what you say.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Hey, and I want to say to Pickings, Dickens, Pickens,
I want to save my brother. You took that smoke
on that slant. They didn't get you like that, you know,
but you took that smoke, and I got to say, yes,
sir when you A lot of people don't take that
smoke on that on them slants because they it was coming,
(47:16):
but for some reason they didn't bring it to it.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
But he caught that rock.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Hey, I'm liking that, which they just I'm liking that.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
I like George pickens Man. Yeah, we got new wide
receiver number one. Now I'm just messing.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
With Yeah, I don't do that.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Don't talk about him tomorrow. You talking about him tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Flowing up?
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Number one receive number one, baby flowing up.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
Now, we got one A, one B and one c.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Hunh, we'll talk about it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Tomorrow, my tight end, dude, his job broke in five
yard rushing hour.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Hey, fellas, the season ain lost. We're gonna be here
two and one. We're gonna have a good time for
at least until week fourteen. Now, it was after.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
I'm gonna say, direc quick, it's a one game, and
I said, how long he is gonna before?
Speaker 6 (48:08):
Boy Philadelphia Trump.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
And one week at a time. Let's let's go away
to Carolina.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
Let's Chris, thanks for keeping us over there, Josh, thanks
for keeping him company. Come back tomorrow, hater Jesse, We'll
be on the ship. Hang it with the boys.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
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