Exploring bird flu prevention with farm owner Shannon Hayes. Discover boot washing, flock protection with coyotes, and best practices in biosecurity.
Summary
🎯 The Lede: Bird flu cycles have shortened, forcing farmers like Shannon Hayes to reimagine their biosecurity protocols completely.
Farm owner Shannon Hayes reveals how her family protects their livestock from bird flu at Sap Bush Hollow Farm. Key strategies include washing boots with soap and vinegar solutions, timing poultry purchases for summer months, ending public farm tours, and maintaining coyote populations as natural buffers against wild waterfowl. Hayes emphasizes that bird flu prevention requires continuous practice and adaptation, not perfection. The episode highlights farmers' critical but often overlooked role in biosecurity and food supply protection during disease outbreaks
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EpisodeProemPodcast introIntroducing Shannon HayesBird Flu: Context and HistoryAn Ecosystem for BiosecurityProtocols for Biosecurity Call to actionChanging Protocols – Our BootsChanging Protocols – Chicks, Eggs, and ChickenDucks, Geese, Overflying BirdsTraining our CoyotesMore about Shoes and BootsGap Found at a Farm MeetingPractice, Not PerfectReflectionPodcast OutroRelated episodes from Health Hats
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Production Team
Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help DeskÂ
Leon van Leeuwen: editing and site managementresil
Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing
Julia Higgins: Digit marketing therapy
Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling
Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips.
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Inspired by and Grateful to
Sue and Jay Spivack, Jim Donahue, Pat Hultz
Links and references
Sap Bush Hollow Farm
The Hearth of Sap Bush Hollow Podcast & The Radical Homemaker Blog
“Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain” by Betty Edwards,
'Your Local Epidemiologist' Substack by Katelyn Jetelina and Edward Nirenberg
New York State Grown and Certified
Episode
Proem
The only time I felt I could draw was when my Oma was dying. I sketched the outside of her. I had recently read “Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain” by Betty Edwards, which revolutionized art instruction by teaching readers to perceive edges, spaces, and relationships—core skills for realistic drawing. It features exercises in contour and blind contour drawing, emphasizing the importance of drawing what you actually see, not what you think you see. Now, when I’m curious, I want to know the backstory to fill out the edges.
My antennae stirred when reading 'Your Local Epidemiologist' about Bird Flu. The Paramedic and Emergency Nurse personas in me feel anxious. No reports are coming out of the CDC, the aggregation of State infection data has been discontinued, and the administration is comfortable with days-long reaction times to disasters, having defunded and staffed mitigation work. So, look out farther to the edges of bird flu –the front line of people managing flocks of birds. Bird flu is nothing new, but the usual 10- to 15-year interval between epidemics has changed. Bird flu isn’t dying out or going dormant anymore. The CDC is reporting incidents of infection jumping from birds to people. Our federal government seems unprepared - danger, danger, danger. I know so little, and I’m scared. Not a healthy mix.
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