Heart of the Enneagram

Heart of the Enneagram

A Deeper Dive into the Enneagram

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January 16, 2025 57 mins

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In this episode, we talk to Sandra C. Smith, an Enneagram teacher, about her new book, The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type.

[2:44] Getting to know Sandra through summer-themed questions

[8:26] Sandra’s personal journey with the Enneagram

[12:19] Sandra’s teachers, their influences on her and how they show up in her book

[17:16] Defining type and why is understandi...

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Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from leaders in Season 6 and offer an overview of the gifts and sensibilities of each Enneagram type as it relates to leadership.

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April 13, 2021 41 mins

Join Sandra and Chris as they talk with Vance Brown, who leads with Enneagram type Three.  Vance shares the ways in which his type shows up in his leadership role as a high-tech CEO.

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April 6, 2021 41 mins

Learn about the gifts and challenges of a type Eight leader as Chris and Sandra talk with non-profit co-director and NC Senator Julie Mayfield.

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March 30, 2021 45 mins

Listen as Chris and Sandra talk with Bill Toth who leads with Enneagram type Six. Bill shares how his Enneagram type has influenced the ways in which he leads in his diverse professional background in global security.

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March 23, 2021 45 mins

 How do a type One and type Three co-lead a team?  Find out as Chris and Sandra talk with Elizabeth Sawin & Drew Jones, Co-founders of Climate Interactive. Beth and Drew share the insights they have gleaned from years of co-leading and how their leadership styles relate to their Enneagram Types. 

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March 16, 2021 43 mins

Micky ScottBey Jones, a womanist, faith-rooted contemplative activist, movement chaplain, nonviolence practitioner, and justice doula, shares how her leadership is informed and impacted by her Enneagram Type 1.

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September 22, 2020 28 mins

Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from elders in Season 5 and ask each other what they would say to their 25 year old self.

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September 15, 2020 41 mins
Sandra Maitri shares her wisdom of eastern and western spiritualities and her journey learning the Enneagram in the 1970s from Claudio Naranjo and leading with type Two.
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September 8, 2020 34 mins

Jeanette Stokes shares how the Enneagram has influenced her understanding of her vocational journey resourcing women in ministry.

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September 1, 2020 41 mins

Sheryl Cohen reflects on her experience of the Enneagram as a clinical psychologist and spiritual seeker.

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August 25, 2020 37 mins

Chris and Sandra talk with Billy Vaughn, a retired member of the faculty at Memphis Theological Seminary, about the gift of Enneagram Type 9 and how he has worked with it over his life.

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Barbara Brown Taylor is the New York Times bestselling author of An Altar in the World, Learning to Walk in the Dark, and Holy Envy: Finding God in the Faith of Others. She has been an Avon lady, a cocktail waitress, a horseback riding instructor, and a hospital chaplain, but her favorite job was teaching world religions at Piedmont College for twenty years before putting the chalk down in 2017. She now divides her time between wri...

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August 11, 2020 56 mins

In the first episode of our season elder wisdom, Professor Emeritus Luther E. Smith, Jr. offers reflections about spirituality, racism, justice, and leading life as an Enneagram Type 9.

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May 14, 2019 16 mins

In this final episode of Season 4, Chris and Sandra reflect on a question about what it means to know that all Enneagram types are inherently worthy and have access to abundance, which allows all of us to have an Open Heart.

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Sandra and Chris explore a question about how type changes over time by interviewing two guests at different life stages who both lead with type 4 - Asher Walker-Wilson and Ed Hillman.

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April 30, 2019 21 mins

Those who are learning about the Enneagram often ask, "I know my type - now what?" Sandra and Chris talk about practices for each of the Enneagram types that help engender growth by moving counter-instinctively.

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April 23, 2019 36 mins

Sandra and Chris explore the intersection of the Enneagram with race and culture in conversation with guest, Kevin Young, employee relations manager at the Biltmore Company in Asheville, NC.

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April 16, 2019 19 mins

Chris and Sandra dispel some of the common misunderstandings of Enneagram types, in order to help deepen our knowledge of the Enneagram and shift away from stereotyping.

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April 9, 2019 17 mins

Sandra and Chris talk about the look alike types of the Enneagram to help listeners distinguish between and discern their type.

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