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May 28, 2025 34 mins
The girlies are back for a good ol' fashioned catch up session! Melody shares about her travels to Germany, her hubby's new passion project, and what shows she is currently watching! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's going on, everybody. Well, welcome back to Almost at
Summer House.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome back, Welcome back to.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Heart and Soul Melodies Best by Guys. We're virtual today, yes,
and we're both incredibly ghetto with our setups.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
We are, but we made it.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We did it. We freaking did it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And if you're listening to this, which you should be
because are Adam blu we recorded this a week before
this comes out, so if we miss anything that is
new and up to date, it's because we're living in
the past.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
So correct give us great Yes, please, Melody.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
How the heck are you? I'm good you You went
on another world travel?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I did. I did go on a travel. This one was, uh,
my grandmother passed away, so I'm sorry, it's okay. So
me and my mom went to the funeral, and so
I met her in Germany and we, honestly, we had

(01:28):
a really good time. It was nice. I've never done
like a solo trip with my mom. So it was
kind of nice to just the two of us go
around and I had her really we had so much
time on her hands. We were there for a week
and we didn't have anything planned really other than you know,
seeing family that was there already or that you know,

(01:52):
traveled in. So I really just had her show me
all the houses that she grew up in, you know,
where she was born. I learned so much about my mom. Honestly, Yeah,
I didn't know that she was a home birth, Like
she just came early, so my Olma had no no

(02:18):
choice but to just give birth at home.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Mom, I know, honestly, is terrifying.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, So yeah, it was just nice to see all
the houses that she grew up in. So she always
she had like little stories and stuff and just like
showing me the little spots and she's like, this is
the farm that I learned how to drive a tractor.
She she just like filled me in on a lot

(02:46):
of her childhood and like I've gone to her hometown,
Like I've been to Germany and been there in her
hometown to visit family many times, but we never had
just had this amount of time to just really go
around and kind of just hear specifically about her and

(03:07):
take the time to do that and to reminisce. And
it was like it was nice to do that just
because we were in the you know, mindset of thinking
about her mother, and it was just it was just
like good, good mom daughter time.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know, it sounds really sweet. I bet she cherished that.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think so, And it was nice. It was over
Mother's Day, so we got to spend Mother's Day together
and then the following day was the funeral on Monday,
so I got to meet so many family members and
relatives and got to see family members that I probably
didn't see since I was two, that's for you know,

(03:53):
a few that I hadn't seen since maybe like five
or six years ago when we went to visit. So
it was all in all, just like a really good trip.
I felt that it was jet lagged either. I kind
of just rejected it.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh, I didn't know, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I said no, I said, I won't be jet lagged.
I'm not about to go through all of that. So
guess what, suck it up And I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's kind of ben that is on the power of
the mind. Baby.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It really is. I came back and just just fell
right into it. I was like, I don't know, like
I just I don't know. It's so strange. It kind
of felt like I was never even there.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Was it a dream?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Wasn't a dream? Was it didn't even happen? I don't know.
But it was the strangest thing. It was very strange.
But I did kind of get a sinus affection because
everything was in bloom over there. It was gorgeous. The
weather was perfect. It was like seventy during the day,
like forty five at night. We just got cozy and

(05:01):
sweaters and just said we were just outside all day
on all night, and that I have allergies real bad,
so too. That was not great for my allergies and
all these different plants and trees that I'm not used to,
and so I definitely got like a little sinusy thing,

(05:23):
and so I'm still a little nasily and trying to
like get all that congestion out. But it was so nice.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
It was really nice.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Wouldn't take it back?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like last week, I think there was an episode I
recorded with someone called Get to Know Your Mother, and
she just wrote a whole book from like her mother's
perspective and her perspective of how like she had so
much I guess like bitterness towards her mom, but never
knew her mom's story. And then finally when she like

(05:54):
got to know her mom, Yeah, she was like she
had like so much more empathy and was like, oh,
I understand this is why this happened.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And it was really good conversation and you just did that.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That was really good. I remember listening to that, and
I listened to it when I was on the way
back from my trip, and I remember like, yeah, it's
very much So if you don't ask the questions, they're
not gonna They're not gonna just willingly tell you things.
And so I just remember, you know, kind of forcing

(06:30):
my mom being like where did you grow up? You know,
show me the house she lived in, you know, no da,
like all this stuff, and I'm like tell me this,
so why so why Like if she told me something,
I'm like, okay, what do you remember about that? Or
like why was it like this? And yeah, it truly
was like you just have to ask the questions.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So I'm so glad you got that time with her.
No me too.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
We did a similar trip to Germany but it was
ocean Asle Beach.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't know if we've heard of it.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Used to hop skip jump down the river.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Major jet lag, major jetlag. Couldn't escape it. No, it's
only like an hour drive from Wilmington.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
But we did that with my last week with my
family and then family friends that we grew up with.
So like, we had a with like a duplex where
there's like seven rooms one side, seven on the other
and there were eighteen total people seven rooms and seven
rooms correct, eighteen people, So like it was my parents,

(07:31):
me and my brother are spouses, and then the three
grand kids on one side and then the exact same
scenario on the other side.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Whoa, Yeah, it was a.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Lot of people. It was a great time for especially
for the kids. But speaking of science infections, from the
time we were there to the time we left, there
were two urgent care visits. There were one, two, three, four,
five sick people.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, what happened?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, you're all cooped up in a house together,
someone brings germs in and.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's getting over.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Someone's got to ruin it for everyone.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, my mom was the first to ruin it. I'm
just kidding, Mom, If you're listening. You did not ruin it.
Ut she got larynditis, so it actually wasn't contagious, but
she should not speak the entire time.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Oh no, that's the worst I know.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
And then my niece had an ear infection. William got
swimmer's ear. Oh no, me and Michael couldn't breathe through
our noses, just couldn't breathe, justsally.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Through the mouth.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So yeah, we're we were paying.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, I'm still like, I have a drip.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, me too. It's just a constant drip. Might Yeah,
it's just not.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Pretty'll be dripping for the rest of my life. Your
husband's an influencer.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
He's trying Oh my gosh, wait, this is great. Everyone
go follow Mikey Wiseman. He's uh, you know, he's really
just over his job. I think he's just like, what
am I doing?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And how do I make the things that I'm passionate
about money for myself? Yeah. So he's been cooking and
doing his cooking videos and he's loving it. He's having
a blast, like this is great. He's getting like a
proper setup, trying to do all the things, and he's

(09:35):
having a really good time. Somewhere Yeah, he's editing himself,
like he's really going at it, like I don't know.
He's got this this program that he puts everything into
and he like, you know, kind of pieces everything together.
I'm impressed because I not be able to do that.

(09:57):
But it lets him share, you know, his love for cooking,
and it's going to open up opportunities for him to
do his own little events and stuff, which he just
loves to do. You know, there's a big difference between
you know, cooking and then cooking in restaurants, and he

(10:20):
just really didn't want to go back into the restaurant world,
like we just never saw each other. So this is
like the perfect way that he can cook and do
all of that and share what, you know, what he
loves to do. And so yeah, it's been good.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You know what would be dope is if he became
like a private chef. He got hired for like major trips,
you know, and y'all got to travel because of it,
even more than you already do.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
That would be very cool. Any reason for a trip.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
We went to Peerla on Saturday, shout out to Peerla,
and we were walking up and Michael was like, you
take melodies here and I was like, now she's in Germany,
and he goes, that checks out.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Because y'all are literally never in town.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
We were like, they're either at Pearla, but if we're
in town.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Or another country, there's like no in between, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
For sure, Like I was like, I need melodies, I
need melodies PTO schedule.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, it is nice that I do have a job
that's very flexible, which is very nice. And I will
say because it was a death in the family, I
was able to take which was nice. Yeah, but for sure,
if you know, if I'm in town, I'm getting a

(11:54):
snack somewhere. But you know what, we also don't have
two babies, so there's a big difference in what you
want to do. I feel like if I had two babies,
I might not want to go out sometimes and be
like I'm like too tired for that. So I'm so, yeah, yeah,

(12:17):
I gotta get somebody to watch the babes because god knows,
am I like gonna be strapping went on sitting one
in a chair.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like is that fine restaurants with babies?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
No, No, it's just like not that just doesn't seem
super fun unless they're literally newborn and they don't make
a peep. You know you born take them every born life,
I'm sure is great, right, great?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Speaking of babies, my daughter is kind of the worst
right now. Oh no, And let me preface with I
love her. I would never trade her for anything. So
if you are listening and thinking I'm like a bad mom,
well I'm not.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Okay, she's just so much right now.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
She is, first of all, twenty two pounds and incredibly strong,
and so on top of her being extra strong, she
doesn't want to sit still. So like if you were
to hold her, she literally like riga mortis, like wiggles
her way out and like it's so strong that you
can't stop her. Like so I have to strap her

(13:32):
into me. And the reason I have to strap her
into me is because she has to be touched. Twenty
four seven. I'm going insane, Like I'm going insane. When
I put her down to clean a dish, screams, bloody murder.
When I put her down to go peepee, bloody murder,

(13:52):
put it on, take a fit of food, bloody murder.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's horrible right now.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
And this just started like a few weeks ago, like
even on the trip, like she wouldn't let anyone else
really hold her except me. So I'm like, I have
eighteen humans here. Yeah, like I have help and I
can't even really receive it.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So to this morning we had she was in childcare
for soul and the childcare girl was like, she literally
looks at me and she goes, I don't know how
you do it. After after the hour, I was like,
was she really hard for you? I was like, I
thought that maybe if I wasn't in the room, she'd
be easy, and she was like she she was like,

(14:32):
I don't know how you get anything done. And I
was like, no, I don't, Like I don't do anything.
I can't get anything done. And then by the end
of the night when Michael gets home from work, I'm like,
take her, take all of them.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I'll talk to you. I'll talk to you at eight pm.
Like I'm so over it. Yeah, this has got to
be a phase that stops soon.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, you know that her parents are the strongest people
I know. So it checks out that she's like like
doing backflips off of your shoulder, because.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
She'll be in the next six months, she will be
doing those.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Those muscle ups. Muscle ups. Yeah, yeah, and today for babies.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Today is the last day of school for William. So
I'm like, uh, gonna be two kids. I did hire
like a part time nanny, but starting next week she'll
do like three mornings a week for me.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
But I'm like kind of.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Nervous for her because Coco's so hard. I'm like, do
I need to pay them extra? Like what do I do?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Like, she's just just see how it goes. No need
to dish out more money for no reason. You never
know this one.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh I can't.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't have any I have no money. I don't
know where what what is up with that? Like where
does our money go?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'll tell you where it goes.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Everything's like three times the price, true, Like you can't
even go buy with something. Oh my diet coch that
I get drive through at McDonald's like three twenty five. Now,
I'm like what No, No, wait, that was Panero was
three twenty five. McDonald's is probably still two something, but

(16:21):
still that.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Used to be Like yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
That adds up too because I get about three a week.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
That is not where your money's going. No, and let
me tell you.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, it's not the same as a can you have
to go through the drive here and get the fountain
drink for sure. So before you slide into my DMS
and say just buy the cans it's cheaper a little
last longer, I'm all about an extro.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
No, no, no, two dollars here and there is not
going to change your bank account. Is two kids, two kids,
and all the streaming services so that we can watch
all the shows.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
So, oh, by the way, how funny speaking of streaming services,
how funny was it when you texted me last week
and you were like, are you on Patreon for the Toast?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
And I was like, duh, already watched it, I know.
I was like, this is so exciting.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
What's another? Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm like, okay, so we there's like not a lot
on right now on the television.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
There's not leave it to us.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Leave it to us to find time to watch TV something.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
We both just realized that we have been bingeing old
episodes of Summerhouse. Yes, which Summerhouse? Have you watched current
seasons at all?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
No? I'm not that person that can just like jump
in oh see, I like when the sand when the
scandalbal thing happened. Like I didn't let myself really like
watch the seasons that were happening, or watched the season
that was happening and listen to all the podcasts of
all the drama until I was done leading up to it,

(18:11):
so that I was fully like getting my proper reaction
on what was going on and who these people were
and why it was a big deal. And so I
obviously am not living under a rock, so I know
what's happening with you know, Paige and Craig, and like

(18:33):
Lindsay's having a baby with Carl, and it's just kind.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Of like, she's not having a baby with Carl.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh is she not? Okay, Oh, she's.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Having a baby, but not with Carl.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
But now you.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Under a rock.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
But is it Carl's baby?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh okay, I might be living on a rock. Okay,
thank god, because I was about to say, I am
just so sad for Carl if he is attached to
her for the rest of his life. But I am
at the point where Carl and Lindsay are together. Yeah, Okay,
Summer I read that it was Carl's baby, So like
I am not crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
But no, like naturally you would think, oh, that was
two years ago. Like, you're in season seven, so that
was only two years ago, right when they h I
bet the baby she had was with Carl Carling there together.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
No, okay, okay, great, I can't wait to find out
who the baby daddy is. Do we know though?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
We know who he is, but he doesn't ever go
on the show.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Oh that's dumb whatever, Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
But Summer House Is is my favorite Bravo TV show.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
It's my favorite one because it feels so like lighthearted
and fun like it doesn't it doesn't feel like heavy
like The Valley. No, it doesn't feel like on I
don't know where is unobtainable like Housewives, Like I'm just
never all of that life.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Not that I like go to the Hamptons in the summer,
but like.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
It seems like you could people who are friendly, they're friends,
they're just they're my age, they're you know exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
It's definitely doable, Like it's a lifestyle that you could live.
I could and fends and they're friends. That's the thing is,
like it's not a random casting of all these people
that they're trying to put together and for storylines. It's like,
no they've been friends for so long and they're all
connected in some way, and at this point now you
have a like a solid crew that's like a proper

(20:36):
cast that keep coming back, so you're invested in them, like.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I who's your favorite?

Speaker 3 (20:42):
I love it. I really love it. And it gives
me my New York itch, you know, like I'm really
you know, when I'm missing my home. I'm like, all right,
let me get some like New York uh vibes up
and here and like personality. I'm like just really really
enjoying it. And don't I don't know why I waited

(21:03):
this long to watch it. So if you're that person
out there that's like I, I'm not about to go
back nine seasons, bah bah blah blah blah, it's so good,
like it truly is just like these people are wild.
They just want to have fun. They just want to
have fun. On the weekends, They're like, I've been working
so hard. They live for the weekend and they go

(21:27):
full send always, they send it, They send it all
the time. Yeah, and it's a lot of energy, Like
I've been pressed that they even like I'm impressed Kyle
Cook has that much energy to full send every weekend.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
But he's not a normal human.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
He's not a normal human. Like he has energy from
somewhere like I don't know, but it's from like a
well inside of him that never runs dry. Not the
Lord either, No, like definitely not that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Let me tell you what is not the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's not the Holy spirits lom Spirit.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
But it's so good. So I'm doing that right now.
And because of that, I've really slacked on watching any
new stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I started.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'm one of those freaks that can start in like
a random season and then I and then I.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Go back and try to get to know the people.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, so I watched last season of Summerhouse, just jumped
into it, and then this started this season of Summerhouse.
And when I was starting this season, I was like,
I love this show so much, why don't I go backwards?
So I go backwards, went back and got to know
the cast a little bit better. And let me tell
you what the context matters for some of these fights.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
It does, And I will say where you started in
season three, totally fine. No one wants to go back
to season one and two with the Twins. They suck.
And so I really think, like jump in season three,
Page comes in, it just really gets really really good.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah. I started with when Page and Hannah came because perfect.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I love so funny. I love Page, love Page amazing.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Speaking of Summerhouse and how it's just a bunch of
drunk people partying on the weekends and it's dramatic, the
opposite of that is the secret lives of Mormon wives
because they do all this stone cold sober.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah that's scary.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Isn't that terrifying?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I know you haven't started this season yet, but like
every episode, I am truly in awe that these people
stone cold sober?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Are they? I thought that they drank a little, because, like,
I know, they're Mormon and they're not allowed to drink,
but I thought that some of them drank.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I have an apple and my tooth. Hold on, Oh,
let's get that the whole time.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh okay, so some of them do drink. But like
when they're filming at these parties, these parties air quotes
that they throw, like the at a Halloween party this season,
no alcohol, day at a Christmas party, no alcohol. So
all these people are literally just sitting around sober and
like fighting, and I'm like, how are you doing this?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Wait, that's wild. Why do they not have alcohol? Is
it because they're inviting other people that like would shame
them for drinking?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Probably, But also some of them are like devout Mormons,
that's true, and some of them aren't, so I think
it's I also think they're trying to highlight the Mormon
culture in the show.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
So it's like it's it's it's insane.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Season two is absolutely insane. I'm obsessed with this show.
I can't stop watching it.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Is like, I'm gonna watch it today, Like I'm binging
the entire thing today. Like when we got off this hall,
I'm you can find me on my couch. That's where I'll.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Be text me updates. I think we need.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Like it's I think it's such a fascinating show to
me because these women are like anywhere from like twenty
three to thirty. They're young, okay, and they all have
at least three kids, which is insane, Like some of
them are twenty four with three kids, and I'm like,
you're a kid also they I think it's fascinating because
it's like they were forced to grow grow up again.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Air quotes so young because of the Mormon culture.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Like you get married at like nineteen and then you
start popping out babies and so now they're like like.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
They're re entering society, but as mothers, right. Fascinating because
they act like children.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Right, but they never had like that rebellious face.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Never.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
They never like went to college and partied and like
had time to like find themselves and learn regrets and
all that. Like they are regret they are in their
regret season, but they're mothers.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, that's like crazy because you have so much more
to lose. I feel like that's it.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
They don't care.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
They don't care. But but like having kids, being married,
like I don't.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Know you have, Yeah, well you have. It's your reputation.
It's like right on your children and your family. Like
think about athletes that are going to like school and
their moms like are.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Crazy on TV and they're getting probably for it, for it,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's honestly very sad. But like can't stop watching, Oh no, for.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Sure, not Like I'm glad someone's capturing it so that
we can watch. I know, truly fascinated by like the
Mormon religion, and I like that we have these shows
like that in Salt Lake City Housewives that kind of
highlight a different culture and like well not culture but
religion and just like a way of living but truly

(26:55):
a culture, true. Yeah, Like it is a totally different
way of living and it is kind of cool to
be like exposed to that. I wish that they would
do that more, like for different religions or different cultures
that you just like you shall know much about. Like
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Now, do I want to be a Mormon?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
No, but but it is it is fascinating, and they
the craziest thing is like Utah culture because his majority
Mormon is like if they all look the same, like
I don't know how to like they all have the
same hair, the same the same extensions, and like the

(27:39):
thing about it is like you would.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Think being like.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Mormon and godly and whatever, like they're like you would
think my body's a temple. But like these women like
the culture is to like get procedures and that is
so wid everything is like not truly real, like unless
I'm not against this stuff, but like it's like from
season one to season two, like one of the girls

(28:04):
comes in and she's like, this is the work I
had done, Like they all have boob jobs, they all
get botox, they all have filler, they all have lip filler,
they all have one of the Taylor Frankie Paul's mom
from season one to season two got a face lift,
like a straight up one under of a knife and
got her whole face lifted. And that's like celebrated. But

(28:26):
you can't drink, well, you can't drink, but you can
do ketamine. Like it literally makes no sense. It's so
hypo critical. It is fascinating. It's so strange. It's fascinating and.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I love it. But we are watching The Valley. That's
kind of like the only thing we're watching at the
same time.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
That is true, Yeah, there's nothing else right, Like I'm
watching Top Chef, but that's really you know, I love
some Top Chef. I don't know, but The Valley is
I don't know how I feel about it. It's kind
of hard to watch, yeah, because I don't necessarily like

(29:08):
anyone and not one, not a one. I'm trying to
think of literally all the couples, what do we who
do we have?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Jackson, Brittany hate Jackson. I like Brittany, She's fine.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I like Brittany, Michelle and Jesse hate them both.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh God, I like Kristin Doody. Actually, I know I.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Never did like Kristin really much like on Banner Pump Rules,
but the Valley, she's like kind of being a sounding
board of Rest and Kristin and Luke, uh uh.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Nia and Danny.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
And then uh Jack, Jason, Oh yeah, Jason and Janet
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I don't like Janet. I like Jason me too.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Boring, But that's the whole point, is like boring because
he's like a normal human. Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, Zach and Jasmine and Jazzz girlfriend which I can't
remember her name.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
I know I can't either, but uh yeah, you know,
I just don't love like anybody particularly much. And it's
like really hard to watch Jesse kind of be this
persona And at first I wasn't like very full like

(30:28):
send Michelle like at first because I think, like she's
also not my cup of tea either, Like she's just
kind of boring also, but not in a good way,
not like boring, not boring like Jason, where you're like, oh,
he just is boring because he's normal, normal guy and
maybe not the best television because he's not overly dramatic,

(30:50):
but she just kind of whinds and like complaints. But
I will say Jesse is really showing it to us,
like it's not great.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
He's like the scariest kind of person because at least
with Jack's, Jackson is like, so there comes up?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Why is that thing come up?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh my gosh?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
If it also happens when I'm recording with you, can
I just say we're so expressive with our hands, they
are so expressive. So with Jax, he's like outwardly horrible,
do you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Like he's yeah, he's like he's he's not like who
I am, and he can't even pretend to be anybody else.
He's that awful.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
But he's easy, it's easy to pinpoint like his problems,
where with Jesse he's actually pretty good at remaining calm
and almost mind effing you into yeah, very do I
like him or do I not am my team Jesse?
Or am I not team like it's hard to and
then she's like, no, he's he's manipulative.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And then you're starting to pick up on it.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
When he has conversations, you know, means calms and he
he makes these little jabs they're very little, but he
knows what cuts the deepest, and he doesn't he doesn't know.
He's relentless. He's almost the worst kind.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Of for sure, because he's gonna do Jack. You could
just be like unhappy.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah with Jack, so you canna be like everyone knows
he's a terrible person. I can see, everyone can see it.
But with Jesse, he can trick people into.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Like being on his side. Yep, it's so true. That
is so so true.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I don't really like anyone. I mean, Nia's fine,
she's fine, she's fine, they're fine.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Danny weird, Yeah that's all I got.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Danny weird.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, Like he's fine, but he when he drinks, he's weird.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah that's kind of it. Like that's kind of it. Yeah,
I'm not like team anybody.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Honestly, I'm kind of ready at the at first when
we were talking about or when we were watching The Valley,
I was like, I don't want any of the old
people to come back, but I'm like ready for like
La La and Sena and then.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, weasel your way in please and like spice things
up and like be be superficial. Like I don't know,
I just kind of need it.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, I just kind of need some seasoned veterans for
reality TV who know how to start drama and still
still get people to like them.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yes, exactly, please please.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
That's kind of all I'm watching, though, I know same.
That's sad. They are watching Survivor but you don't want to.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Oh yeah, I don't. Is that like new or is
that old new Survivor?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
We're watching the current season? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Oh okay, there, I didn't know. It's been.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Fair it's been on since two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, it's like the longest first.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Reality TV show ever.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
All right, well then that's kind of it. Just a
little chat.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, I like it. It's nice too, Beautiful listeners.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'll talk to you next week. Okay, Melody, I'll talk
to you soon.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I'll be texting you all day while you're yeah, while
I'm watching Mormon Wives. Correct correct, All right, ladies, go
tune into all these shows and we'll talk to you
next week.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Thanks for listening to Heart and Soul. If this episode
encouraged you in any way, please leave a review on
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Talk to you next week,
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