April 30, 2025 • 43 mins
My dear friend, Stefanie Roback, is a mom, business owner, therapist, and incredibly authentic friend! Today, we chat all about authenticity in business, how life often feel like a dumpster fire, how Jesus grounds us, and how motherhood and business coexist!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Heart and Soul Podcast with Catherine Banko.
I'm on a mission to celebrate breakthrough, empowerment and shameless
living in the lives of women everywhere. Join me and
let's live unashamed together.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's going on? Everybody? Welcome back to Heart and Soul today.
I'm joined by my dear, dear friend, Stephanie Roback.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome, Seph, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's been a long time coming, but now you're finally
on the pod. Stephanie is the owner and founder of
Laura Is it a Laura Therapy, A.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Laura Rise Council, get therapy? Come on, Catherine, get it.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know I can't get the rise part A Laura Rise,
A Laura Rise, A Laura Rise.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We just like signed on kind of I'm not gonna lie.
I signed on a little like frazzled because my baby
woke up so early today and so she's offers ed
litl and I look like I just rolled out of
bed saying enough time to like get ready or do anything.
So I on YouTube, very very sorry, ameless living. So yeah,
I just feel kind of like a little lost. Plus
(01:10):
this morning I had to return let's just talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Me go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
This morning, I had to return I like did the
drive up thing for Target where you can.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Like praise Jesus.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Thank you Jesus, Yes you are good. But I ordered
a large. I'm like my sizing ever since I had
Coco has well, it's so changed, and so I like
don't know what size am, but I have to like
order all new swimsuits for this summer, and so I
ordered larges, thinking the mediums that I have here are
too small, so I'll go for a large. Well, then
(01:50):
the larges were too big in that specific swimsuits, so
I had to go return them this morning. So at
like eight am, No. Fifteen, I dropped William off at school,
and I just like the first person in the Target
parking lot and I'm like returning swimsuits. And then I'm like, well,
while i'm here, you know, we've got that non morning
bloat where you wake up and like you're like, maybe
(02:11):
I should try on sometimsuits while I'm here. So the
time I did like a crazy person, and I bought
like five swimsuits for this summer. Then I detect Michael
and be like sorry about the charge.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So that I've been the banking app right now.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, And then while I was driving home, that's when
she fell asleep in the car. And that's like always
like a you try to avoid car naps, but you do,
like the mom slap.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You're like, what what? Yeah, actually slapping? I don't slap
my children, but I tapped the top of their head.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Ye, yep, I didn't. It didn't work today, so she
fell asleep. So I've just been like, I feel like
I've lived three lives this morning. It's only nine am
or ten, I don't know. Okay, Stephanie, why don't you
tell my listeners a little bit more about who you
are and what you did and then we'll just go
from there.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay. I am a therapist, a mental health therapist. I'm
a licensed clinical social worker and a licensed Clinical addiction specialist.
Those are the letters next to my naming. I own
and founded a Laura originally a Rise Counseling and Therapy.
That is a long story. We should talk about it
on my Instagram. I can talk about it. It's a
(03:23):
whole hot mess of a story. They recently set me
another legal notice because we still owned our old domainion
that was rerouting to our new domain. We're not allowed
to do that. So my lawyer was like, uh, Sephanie,
and I was like, please, if I'd never see a
lawyer's name in my email again, praise the Lord, because
I bout poot my pants every time I see a
lawyer's name in my eye.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I can only imagine that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I should probably do some more I do. I've
done a lot of therapy in my life. I'm a therapist.
I go to therapy. I need to probably specific therapy
on the trauma that I have the trauma response. I
have two lawyers in my email. Yeah. So we were
a Rise counseling in therapy for four years. In October,
we changed to a Laura Rise and we probably go
mostly by a Laura. But actually because this time we're
(04:06):
trademarking it, because somebody came after me for not having
a Rise trademarked. They had the word a Rise trademark.
They lived across the country, they were a healthcare organization,
and they said we're gonna stomp you out change your
name in ten days, and I so give me sixty First,
I said, heck no, I just put my foot down
and I was like, absolutely not. My lawyers were like,
you're probably gonna have to do that, and I was like, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Trademarking is weird. Like I had a trademark, shame was living.
I'm like, anywhere can say it, like right, say that.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Right, that's the thing. It's like I have, I have,
We're having So that's the whole We were gonna name
it a Laura. They said, a Laura is already trademarked weird,
but you can do laura a Laura with another word.
We can trademark with praise. And I was like, cool,
let's add rise and to a rise rise whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
There's a there's another business called soul so Eli but
it's like treadmills and I get emails randomly from like
angry customers about their treadmill and I'm like, it ain't me.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I just know, mean I didn't do it. But yeah,
so I have a Laura. I'm getting all. We're in
the cross the eighteen month process of getting a Laura
rise trademark, so nobody's nobody try to do it. I'm
doing it, but you're here because I'm like, I would
never yeah, I would never go after someone. It's for
my protection. I saw It's so weird to me that
people have a random word in the dictionary trademark and
then they're like, you can't use it, and you can't
(05:30):
use it and you can't praise Jesus. I was terrifed.
I mean I was. That was probably one of the
lower moments in my I go on zoom call. But
the women who worked for me truly are the best
women in the world. And I was like, you alls,
got you gotta hop on a zoom call. They thought
I was like closing the door. They didn't know what was.
I was like, we're having a zoom call tonight eight PM.
Like I need you all on it. I PM, and
I was like and I was just hysterically crying. I
(05:53):
was like, this is going to ruin your referrals. No
one's going to be able to find us. Your existing
clients aren't going to be able to find us. Doctors
and physicians aren't going to be able to referred to us, like,
because we're going to be just lost off the face
of the ark. All the four years that I spent
tabling and marketing and knocking on doors and dropping donuts
off at doctors off like is gone, is gone? So
you're all screwed. You're not getting any more worlds, blah blah.
(06:15):
And they all were like and I was like, if
you want to leave, like I understand, Like whatever you
need to do, I understand. And they all God bless them,
We're like we stand by you. This is not gonna
shake us. We're we're You're gonna be great. You're gonna
come out better than ever. And I was like, and
we did really like Willington, North Carolina. I can't even
explain it with the community. I posted this video which
(06:37):
everyone was telling me I had to get in front
of the camera, which I don't really on our social media,
and I was like no, And finally someone was sat
me down, was like Stephanie, you need to learn how
to ask for help. And I was like, okay, so
I saw oh. I sat in front of the camera
and just basically pleated for help. I was like, look,
we need this name change spread across Wilmington because otherwise
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people won't know where we went and I'll be looking
for a rise and it doesn't exist. And it got
so many shares by like all of the small businesses,
and like I was seriously like hysterically front of like
this is the kindest gesture, just like people saying like
we will not let you fail or fall apart or
get lost. And it was so cool. So we actually
(07:19):
ended up I think better than we started, which was
not I anticipated.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
No, y'all people rallied.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, people did rally around.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Wilmington really is the best, especially for like small business
owners because like, I'm not gonna ask S forty five
to like spread something about me because it's a franchise.
But like any other local business, gym is like always
willing to like do an event or share one of
my fitness things, and it's like we're not in competition.
(07:49):
It's like everyone's just kind of like in it together,
which I love totally.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I love it. I love it. But yes, that's my
that's my name. Take story still go. I still find
things that have like I'm like, oh, man, like my
Capital one business, I'm like, it's going to taking a
minute's called Capital one, so three hours to change my name,
do it right now? Which might be illegal, so nobody.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, I like that's how like just changing your actual
name is. That's why I changed my last name until
like six years in a marriage because I was like
and then we had a baby named Collins, and I
was like, I have to do it now, like like
what they're I'm gonna be giving birth and they're like,
so Collins Collins.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Is her name, like cycle, I'm like, I just love it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But I still find things like I bought a car
a couple like a month ago and I did like
cashier's check and like I get there, I have like
twenty minutes to get this touchier check and they're like, oh,
your name's not changed on this account. And I was like, yeah,
there's always something.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Something, but yeah. So I own a small mental practice.
Our main locations on Right School Beach. We have satellite
location on Ald. It is eight of us in total.
Everybody does something different, but we're all women. Really important
to me that we were like female owned and ran
and led and everything, because I just no hate on men,
but the women we just gotta stand together, you know,
no hate, but like a little you know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like no, I love that you're all women. And everyone
that I met this past weekend because they didn't work
out at Soul, I'm like obsessed with everyone you work with,
Like you have such a good environment over.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
There there Yeah, that has been my thing with hiring,
which I've just learned and grown over time. So this
we're gonna hit in our find your anniversary in May,
and over time has just been like learning how to
do notes. Da da da da, all of that can
be learned. Being a great, wonderful human being cannot like
that is a heart and soul like that is you
just feel that and someone all of these women, if
(09:49):
you meet any single one of them, you immediately feel
like daggers in your heart that they are just like
a genuine, wonderful assault of the earth human being. I
am so lucky. Yeah, man, I just love that. I
was obsessed with them. If I was going on therapy,
i'd picked one of that.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You know, no, for sure, I was like, maybe I
need to change hera like even when someone posted a
photo of the workout and then I shared it and
then people were sliding into my dance.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Oh my gosh, I love her. I love her. How
do you know her?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And like one of my soul girls was like that's
My therapist was like, don't.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I don't think I need to know that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think that's like confidential. But yeah, they're they're really
all amazing, and that kind of was a testament to
you as a leader too. I mean, thanks, people trust
you and they want to be surrounded by someone who's
like encouraging but also like a teammate, not just like
authoritative figure. So you're very good at being like a
teammate and a cheerleader for people.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Thank you. That's learned too. I think you get into
it and you get like, I mean, I grew up
not in my family nobody owns a business, Like there
wasn't a ton of like that stuff. Top I never
thought that I would own a business. And my husband
really liked was the one that was like you could
totally do this. But I think fear and anxiety and
doubt creep in and then especially in the beginning, and
you're like can I do this? Do we have the
(11:05):
money to do? Like are we going to follow hard?
Like finances are scary? Talking about money is scary, like
especially being at there, because you don't learn about that
in school. You know, get a lot of freaking school
to become a therapist, but nobody talks about business stuff.
If you wanted to do that, And I think over
the last probably three years, I've really refined that, like,
my role here is to love people.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, that is it?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Like, that is it? I show up every day and
like love These women who work here are clients like
anybody we interact with, the businesses we partner with, Like,
my only job is to love that person. Well, however
that whatever the conversations about, whatever it looks like, and
it always works out. And I feel like there's probably
lots of business owners that are like, that's dumb indvies no,
but that's so true. But it's just all I do.
(11:45):
Like I literally I'm like, no matter what comes my way,
I just told you when we go logged down here
that I got a really anxiety provoking text message that
I have to answer regarding to the business. I'm going
to posture myself. I'm going to pray about like my
faith is important to me. I'm going to pray about it.
I'm gonna get my heart right. I'm going to come
a position of love, and that is it. And whatever
happens and unfolds is like it's just kind of unfold
how it shit?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I I mean that's the difference makers love and
I mean, especially as believers, like running a business from
like a holy spirit mindset. Yeah, well, I guess posture,
like you said, is the difference maker in what people like,
what sets you apart? I am. I mean obviously I'm human,
so like not always in my life, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
We've definitely had our personal trading signs around, like Catherine.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But what I was you say is like, I mean
just two weeks ago you were here and I was
like venting hard about my business and I hadn't done
what you had just said, which is just like prayed
about it, and like it's so simple and it's but
it's like so revolutionary to just like actually posture your
heart and surrender and be like why would I doubt
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a god who gave me this calling and has provided
all of this in the past, So why would I
doubt him now?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And even the human mindset where like I can fix
it and then we get into fixing mode, it's like
you're just you're just going with your ego and your
agenda and your and that doesn't work out totally.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And like even if he decides maybe this is the
time to end your business, Like how many transitions have
I been through in my life where he's like set
me up for the next thing, you know what I mean,
It's like door open, a bigger door, different door. And
and then people who come into your business, like I'm
sure you get this a lot, like just your space.
(13:33):
Like if you pray over the state that you actually
like live in and work in, people feel something different.
We've done, like Michael and I've done like prayer walks
around the house or like when we first moved here,
like we really prayed over the gym and then like
just to see like the I guess the chains kind
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of just break a little bit, and people in that
specific room because of that, Like that's powerful, Like people believe,
even if they're not believers, they're like, something's different about
this space. I feel safe here. I feel like yeah,
and that's that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, and you're I mean, you're great at that and
obviously is your space, but you're amazing at that too.
I think like the one takeaway when we all like
walked out of working house, everyone was like it just
felt like safe. I felt like secure. I felt like
she wasn't judging. But I know that you go to
gym sometimes and it's like people are they're not judging it,
but they maybe be judging like your level or your
ability or like you're like you just have this ability
to make everybody feel like no matter how you're coming in,
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like girl, I'm gonna help you. And also it's fine,
like it's fine however you come in, it's fine, like we'reah,
we're gonna do it, and we're gonna You're gonna be fine.
You're safe to be however.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You are here. I think the saying goes for thank
you for saying that, but I think the same thing
goes for your business as well, is like there's this
when you can make like a connection with a client
of like we're all just a little messed up. Like
I I have never come into my gym as a
coach with like a six pack, because I'm like a
normal human who like love, like loves wine and streets
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and like balance and you know, I used to work
at other gyms where everyone was like ripped and I
was just kind of like like fit but normal looking, right,
And I would get really in my head of like,
oh no, this, a client's not gonna want to work
with me over this person because I don't have to.
And anyways, all that to say is like same thing
with you with how you run your business is like
you you show up vulnerable and not like you have
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everything together, which probably frees your clients up to be like,
but she also struggles that I can struggle too freely
with her. And it's just that just vulnerability breeds vulnerability
and it's really cool to see, so.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Cool, thank you for that, but it's yeah, I think
that's also just a learning, a learning over time, like
you do you do show up wine. I got not
so good advice when I first opened. I remember someone
telling me, like to keep my employees or there. I
don't even call them like everybody that my boss. I'm like,
stop calling me your boss. But I was like, keep
them out like your arms, like they shouldn't know so
(16:00):
about your life they should know. Like, but I invited
all these wonderful women to my children's birthday party. Yeah,
come on it, you know it's like yes, from a
business perspective, like that might make you be able to
make like hard decisions forever, like any if anything ever
hits the it did. I showed them when stuff hit
the fan here, I zoomed them on and I told
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them all, yeah, I said, this is what I'm never
gonna come from a position of like having a heart
to make difficult, like there's nothing that's ever just gonna
come and like knock somebody off their feet, where I
would want like a sale distant relationship with them to
like preserve myself. It's like, no, I want these women
to know that I truly from the depths of my
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soul love and care about them. I want them to
do well. I want them their families to do well,
like I want them to be whole and healthy and
all the time. Here it is always like if you
need some time off, you don't have to expect like
just block your calendar, just take a minute. Like when
I find see anybody has like stacked clients, I'm like,
what are you doing? Are you eating lunch? Did you
take a break today? Like I am, I'm here to
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like love these women well. And I remember that was
like the advice I got for one person's specifically was
like keep them out of arm's length. And I was like,
now I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm gonna agree that well, and that that also is
what sets I feel like women own businesses apart, Like
you said, You're like I only hire women, and same
with me. Like only women clients, women, women, women, And
I think that's what sets us apart because there's a
difference between a man leading a company and a woman
leading company. And this is like take Jesus out of it,
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like we'll put himlet in a second. Like men are
just very like logistical, very like not a lot of vulnerability,
just naturally how they're yeah, yeah, how they're created. Well,
then you add Jesus into it, and obviously things are
different and like that's a separate thing. But then women,
even without Jesus, were just like can we just like
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share our feelings like we're just mergers like and how
we were made. And then you add the Lord into
that on top of that, and it's just like I
don't think I could lead from a place of like
walls up and like totalitarian. Like it's how I what
I say goes separate. Business is not personal personal, you know.
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It's like as the other week, I'm like I'm like, well,
you know, when a client leaves, like I'd like to
say like, oh, it's not personal, it's business, but for
me it kind of is personal because.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
These people are my people, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, So it's there's a good there's pros and
cons to both, but I feel like the ways when
it comes to leaving that way totally.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, Okay, it's true value.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I was going to say, like, you know, I was thinking,
you know what, I wasn't yawning, but I wouldn't put
it past me with the morning of it there. No,
I was gonna say. When you were talking, you were like,
I started this five years ago in May. I'm like,
that's like COVID.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That was like, absolutely, it was very COVID. It was
the crazy yeah, only God, you know, just God. It
was not a smartness that there were so many not
wise decisions that any business owner would have told me
not to do it, and I was like, I'm going
to do it. I feel like Jesus told me to
do it. Even right now, like we technically have the
ability to take on another therapist for a while. We have,
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and my husband's like, you know, talking to me about it,
and my answer is always like God's telling me not
to hire anybody, And people I know think that that's weird.
And I totally understand that I told him when I
was a non believer, like totally, but like I'll just
tell me so like that it was like it was
a weird unfolding. We were supposed to move my husband lives.
Husbands family lives in Pinehurst, North Carolina. We were supposed
to move there. We just wanted to be closer to
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family to raise our families. We bought a house there.
We were going to move, and it ended up that
he thought he would be able to be remote and
his company told him no. So when they told him no,
we had to pivot. We found like the company that
built houses there. We were able to transfer and buy
a house here. But I had already started dreaming and
making this plan. I was just doing a solo practice
in Pinehurst, and I was like, had all the libal
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logos and all this stuff, and I was like, I
just feel like I'm not meant to put this down
even though we're staying here. So it's like I'm just
gonna do something solo here off this face on Rightsville Beach,
which ended up being a huge blessing because like there's
gonna be no time besides the pandemic that you can
you know, and the weird part in between there is
that they told him no, you can't be remote, and
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then the world shut down a month later and he
worked remote for three years. God shut the door, like
right before.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It was crazy time me So we only had already
not been that you probably would.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Have been we would have been living in Pinehurst totally,
because we would have been, like if we had made
the decision a month later, we've been like, oh, it's pandemic,
he's we're gonna be remote for a while anyway. But
it was right before, which was ended up being like
a really cool thing. I don't remember what I was
gonna say. Yes I did, totally did, and I was,
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but I wouldn't been able to get an off on
right fool Beach. It was just a ghost town because
nobody had office space. So I was like, I'll run
this office. And I was like that's a dumb idea,
and I was like, I'm going to do it, which
ended up being cool because you and CW like reached out.
No one would take their intern You have to have
an internship to be able to graduate with your MSW,
and so we took two interns, like we just had.
We end up having space for like I took two
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interns and then we ended up I was like, I'll
never have a group practice. I never want to do that.
And then one person came with like, hey, I'd love
to work with you, and I'll be like, okay, come on.
Another person I was like, okay, come on, and I
was like I actually love this, Like I think it's
my favorite part of the whole thing. Now I was
like being able to support mentor like other therapists, and
so it ended up all working out. But yes, really
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bad idea worked out really well for us. YEA, our
second space in the right school beach location. We have
two suites that are right next to each other. But
I was nine months pregnant. I remember that was Alie. Yeah,
I was. I was working out with you at the time.
I was like, this is a really dum idea, But like,
if I don't do it now, there's never any space
alo in this building. If I don't do it right now,
I'm not going to get like I'm not going to
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get the opportunity to do it. So we signed it again.
I was like, this is a dumb idea, Like, but
we found two wonderful, incredible therapists and yeah, it all
just worked at all these things that I'm like, that's
a really dumb idea. I'm gonna do it. I figure
it out. It always works out.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And everything that seems really hard, like even the name change.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oh yeah, oh like that almost took me out. I
literally said to my husband. I literally said, I was like,
closed the doors. I'm done, Like I'm done. This is
I was already act. I was just in a season
which I think that we were working out together than
to before that. I was in a season where I
was at capacity. Yeah, Like I was like, I have
so many tasks and so many things, and I love
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but I don't ever show up here and be like
this doesn't feel like working. But it's a lot of tasks,
a lot of things. I have two babies, Like, I
just have a lot. I'm a capacity. If anything else,
I kept saying for like weeks before that, if anything
else comes on my plate, like I'm just gonna lose
my mind. And then it was like name change, change
everything with insurance companies, all of the Secretary of State
(23:02):
go there six different times, marketing website. Have so read
the website. I ready to instagram. Take all the signs off,
all the building, take all your merch out, throw that
in the trash. I donated. Also, everyone's God there's probably
lots of people with like cute Ariz sweatshirts locked around
down there do yeah now. But I was just I
(23:23):
was like it was funny because I was like, God,
if you put one more thing on my plate, I'm
gonna crack. And he did it and I said, I'm done.
Close the doors. I'm done done. I'm not doing this.
I can't do this. I don't have the time to
do this. And I was almost like, you're gonna do it,
and I was like, I'm not. Well. I call with
these girls and they were like, we love you. We
love this, like people will support you. You're gonna We're
gonna be fine. And I was like we're and then
we were yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And it's always like that, when you think you hit
capacity in life, when God throws something else at you.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And he's like, I'll never say that out loud again.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's like, don't you know that? That's when I brune
you is in the hard bass, and I'm like, no,
I don't like that. It really is true, like even
like even like Michael's whenever I talk about like possibly
wanting a third baby, Michael's like, do you remember being pregnant?
Six times in four years and I'm like, no, I
did not really try, and it's like, of course you do.
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But it's like, yes, it's always in those hard seasons
where you're prone the most, so you're like, yeah, it's
gonna be worth it, right, Same thing with business is
like I know, I know it'll be worth it, but
I just don't know if I can handle it. And
then he's like, oh well you don't have to, like
I can handle it for us. You're like, whenever you
like talk like this, when you're like to go to the
super serious dude, then market is that. Do you ever
(24:38):
feel like, oh my gosh, like I'm officially grown up?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I feel like it impost her all the time. Somebody
asked me that the other day. Someone I was talking
like a young I think she's going to be a
new grad and she's like, when do you get over?
I was like, you don't.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You just don't feel like I'm sixteen.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm a teen mom who owens who gave me
a baby and keys to a and text messages with
people asking me about lease agreevance and attorney's emailing me
about like I'm too young? Where's my mom? Where's the adult?
Where's my mommy. Somebody couldn't help me.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
No, but literally, my mom's like, yeah, my house right now,
cleaning out my closet.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So like, we still need our mommies, We still need
our mommies. Yeah, my dad's coming this weekend, and I'm like,
I just need a hug, like, you know, literally, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, yeah, let's just dump to that you're a mom
of two and he decided to get pregnant, start a business,
and do all this at the same time. What's it
like juggling entrepreneurship and motherhood and be.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Honest, Well, I would like you to picture in your
mind like a dumpster that's on fire. Just kidding Sometimes
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I would be the title of the episode, a dumpster
fire with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Jesus is little going It's gonna be okay, and I'm going, yes, No.
I mean, our first baby was really hard zero to
one for me. I think we've talked about this. People
say one to two is hard, three to three is
hard around but what zero one was like and the
height of pandemic we were pregnant, So I was like,
that's why I saw your Groceries season, which I was
(26:19):
doing because I was pregnant, terrified and let anybody come
near us. So I was totally isolated, just open to business,
pregnant with my first child. Yes, struggled really hard. I
had a really bad post part of OCD after. Yeah,
I just struggled. It was a struggle. I think that
what got me through it was a lot of prayer,
a lot of surrender and just recognizing like what was
(26:43):
in my control, what was that what needed to be done.
I always give myself, like even if I don't write
it down in my mind, and always every day get
I felt like hierarchy of like this is the stuff
that has to be done, Like these are the When
I explain the clients, it's like you're juggling rubber balls
and glass balls. The glass ones you dropped were going
to shatter. Those are important. The rubber ones, if you
drop them, might not be the best thing, but they're
going to bounce back up and you're gonna be able
to catch them again, so that's good. I might have
(27:04):
twenty five tasks to do today, but like two of
them are glass which usually are like my children. And
sometimes there's something with the business that absolutely has to
be addressed today. Has to get done. Especially when it
was name change season, it was like I have to
be at the Secretary of State today, like everything else
needs to kind of bounce or be handed to somebody else,
or I think that what makes it like it's definitely
(27:29):
maybe not a dumpster by maybe the dumpster I don't
maybe dumpster's smoking right now. It's not like totally on fire.
But I have those days where, yeah, I have I'll
wake up and there's sixteen emails of like really urgent
things that need to be addressed, and they want to
it's accountants and lawyers and blah blah meetings like back
to back to back. And then my kids wake up
and of course it's the day that they wake up
and they're just like rabid animals. I have take the
(27:51):
ways and they literally wake up and just start beating
each other up.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Sometimes it's always day.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's always the most glass balls to hold. Yeah, the
kids decide to be like, they're like, oh, they want
another if you want something else to figure out today,
and you just ask. I think it's you ask for help,
you surrender to for me. If you're a faith different person,
which if you're not, you have to figure out what holds,
what anchors you? My anchor is Jesus, that's mine, and
(28:19):
just surrendering of like I don't have to do it
perfectly and it doesn't all have to be right. And
at the end of the day, whatever he wants, it's
his will, it's going to happen. And playing onto your friend,
like talking to you is always like cathartic for me.
I have other friends who have businesses and have kids,
and it's just a different way of wife. Like I
wake up at four o'clock in the morning. I would
like to sleep until seventy. I can't because if I
(28:42):
do that, I am a hot mess. I mean, I
know for mine, you have to learn yours. I think
that that's actually probably my biggest Then you have to
learn your You have to know yourself. I am not
a night person. When it hits seven pm, when the
kids go to bed, I want to go to bed.
I can bear. I can't do anything important. I can
like maybe sift through some emails, but really I'm so
for me, It's like I have to wake up really
(29:03):
really early and get myself together. I have quiet time,
I exercise, I move my body, I eat something before
the kids wake up and then I'm like more present
and ready, and then they go to school for a
few hours and I'm like, go go, go, go, go, get
everything done, and then I want to be present with
them and I want to stare at the wall and
then learn your own rhythm.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's that's a really good advice. That's so true, the
learning your own rhythm, because there might be some moms
like I train it. I train someone who is a
mom and she also works from home, and she's like,
I get most of my work done after the kid
goes to bed, and then I can sleep in a
little bit longer and wake up with it. And I'm like, well,
(29:44):
if that works for you, that's great. Like you just
have to want to know yourself and and.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Not judge yourself and not compare yourself to other people,
because that totally killed me with baby number one. I
was like, all the moms are like, why is this
girl working? She should be home with her baby too.
In my head and this is my distorted cognitive distortions.
Here in the therapy world, I'm like, all the moms think, wow,
she she sends her children to you know, a three
hour preschool morning. She's a terrible mom, she should be
(30:10):
home with her babies, and all the therapists are probably
looking at me, saying she doesn't see a full caseload
of therapists is our clients in a day? Like she
she only sees a few clients a week, like she's
not really a therapist. But in my head, I'm like,
am I therapist? Or am I a mom? Am? I?
Like what am I? And I feel like just this year,
I've been like I'm both yeah, and I can do both,
and I structure my time to do both and to
(30:32):
do both really well, and like, but I succumbed to that,
like everybody's judging me.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, what Michael calls it like analysis paralysis, Like when
you start analyzing other people's lives and like comparing, then
you like paralyze your own like life because you're just
thinking I'm not enough and it's so not true. Also,
like have you ever like looked at a mom on
Instagram and like she's really not like measuring enough? Like
I never know, I never like judged other so like
(31:00):
why do I always think always think that judgy mey
or being like okay, you know, even like with like
this is so silly, but even with like Easter.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Like this is my Easter basket measure literally like, oh
my gosh, I didn't do an Easter egg hunt. And
my mother was like, you're not doing an Easter I'm
like they had one at school. I didn't know I didn't.
And then my kid woke up and said, do I
have Easter eggs? And I was like, no, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
First of all, yeah, my kids did at school, So
I'm like, okay, well check that's doune. But like then,
you know, even like seeing like the matching outfits and
like the the easter baskets that have like their names
like embroidered, Like I got my note Walmart the night
before and I had them deliver it like because I
didn't have time to go to the store. So it's
(31:46):
like but no, I know, like nobody's saying I'm a
bad mom, but you just like think that and maybe
someone is and if you are, like, that's on you
because I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
A kid mom. Yeah, it's crazy though, it's crazy there.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But then we're also like we always talk about this too.
You and I were like we're so, you know, we're drowning,
and then we're like but like one more like when
not one more baby, you know, like there's something really wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
With my husband thinks there's something wrong with me because
all the time I'm like I can't again, like the
same thing as before, I can't handle it. If one
more thing goes on my plate, a crumb lambs on
this plate, You're gonna have to I don't even know,
send me on to an island alone for a while,
like I'm gonna craft, I'm gonna freak out. And I'm like,
but like one more baby would be really He's like, Stephanie,
(32:35):
you're drowning you literally like you all the time You're
like I can't handle this. I'm like, we're already in chaos.
What's one more?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
What I say?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
That's literally what I said, What's one more?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
What's one more? We are gutons for punishment?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We love, we love what I love babies.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Michael does the same thing. Like even yesterday, like I
was so sweet to him via tech. I was like
because he has he has a really busy week and
it's like you got Like I was like, you've got
this this week, send him like kiss the emojis and
like funny gifts, like to encourage him. And then like
he gets home after after work and I'm like, Taggrrette,
(33:17):
It's like, what happened? What happened to the morning text girl?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And I'm like, gone, she's gone. They someding like out.
I mean, she's gone, she's gone. But I go to
sleep and you're like scrolling looking at pictures that were
watching them, so you're like just or.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You like roll over and look at them.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You're like are you doing boo?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Like trying to give them like.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You can see a baby? Like you scared me when
I came home from work today. Is that gonna get worse?
It's not personal, it's business. Yeah, And I don't think
it's I don't think I get more. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I don't know that I can get more stressed.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, then but we can't, but we'll just do it anyway. Yeah, Okay,
I have these five questions. I feel like we could
talk forever. By the way, so we we do have
businesses and babies. But I have five questions that I
used to ask every single guest, but I stopped. I
decided to stop it in season seven. And I don't
know why because they are actually pretty good questions. But
(34:21):
I think just for time's sake, motherhood. But I kind
of want to ask you. I'm gonna go back. I'm
gonna go back to those questions. Okay. First question, what
is something that you're currently obsessed with right now?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I just read Yours truly, this book that came out,
and I was obsessed. I stayed up past my bedtime
last night, so I would I would say, like, like
romantic books right now, I'm into it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
She's crazy staying up past to bedtime?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Did? I was like, I stayed up till nine thirty
and I woke up up four. My husband's like was
it worth it? And I was like, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And then you're like also like rolling your eyes and
just like die, I'll be sleeping by two pm. Yeah,
for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Second question, what's something that you are very excited for
in like, I mean another child.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I don't let my husband listen to this. He's getting
pretty that now. Uh, probably being more present. I feel
like I've been really allowing myself to be refined. I
got on social media for a whole month. I'm on
my back on it now, but I was off it
for a whole month, and I felt that helped me
just kind of like detop. I feel like I'm doing
doing some work and being present and I'm giving tasks
(35:29):
away like work, which is not my I'm like I'm
super type A, so I'm like got my checklist and
all my stuff. I'm delegating like crazy and having people
like hired on to help with things and and so
I feel like I feel like I'm regaining my ability
to like be really present, which I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
What is something that you really love about yourself right now?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's not a therapist A therapy question I'm not prepared for.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Doesn't have to be physical obviously.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Authenticity, Yeah, I would say, I would say I'm proud
of and I love my authenticity. I think that I
if something's going on, you're gonna see it, you're gonna
feel it. But like I'm very authentic in like my
interactions with people. I don't love I'm I'm actually like
kind of an introvert and so I don't love like
(36:16):
surface level chatty. Like I want to be authentic. I
want to know what's really going on in your heart,
like I want help and I want to love on people.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
So I feel like authenticity you are very authentic. I
love that about you, honestly. I don't know if there
were five questions or there or four, but I can
only remember four. So I asked the fourth one, I
just like I don't know the other two. The fourth one,
the final one is if you could leave a post
it note of encouragement or truth on someone's like mirror
(36:47):
or computer today, what would say? Short and sweet?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I would probably say, your thoughts aren't always true, breach
most of the time. I will not say all the time,
because obviously life happens, and like real things happen, and
it gets really hard. Most of our internal chaos and
anxiety and all worries and all the things come from
things that we can conft in our own linds, and
our thoughts about ourselves and our surroundings and what's going on.
The way that you see the world is the way
that you're gonna interact with the world, right, So if
(37:12):
your thoughts are not filled with truth, then they're coming
from things you're worried about, our ancient abou or whatever.
That's a totally changed the way you interact with your
world and feel and see and relationships and all the things.
So I would just say that your thoughts are not
always true.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I have to remind myself that a lot, especially. I
actually learned that in therapy when I have my eating disorder.
But also I started finding scripture around it, and like,
you know, take every thought captive, Like it's so biblical
to be like take the thought captive. Assess if that's
from the enemy or from the father, Like would God
say that about you?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Right, okay, well then that's not true, and then you
can like replace the thought with truth. You're so wise,
y'all know.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Well, I still struggle. I always try to do the
drive when I have like full on like scenarios that
didn't happen happening in my head and I'm like, well
that happens. What what I do? What I'm saying? What happened?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And I'm like, I just had a full blown conversation
with myself around something that isn't true, didn't happen. Yeah,
it's filled with like lies and truth. And I just
did that for ten minutes. So like I do it too. Yeah,
I just I guess try to catch myself.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I mean I could be in I could take a
five minute shower and within the shower. I have written
a whole movie scene about things that could go wrong
in my life. Yeah, and Michael like doesn't have inner dialogue,
which is like crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's crazy. I am like constantly nothing, it's just silence.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
He's like, well, I'm just kind of like doing what
I'm doing, like focused on that. And I'm like, I've
never had no anxiety, Like no, like what what? I
don't get it. And then I'll be like in my
head when he's like actually focused on something and not
like staring at me and trying to flirt, I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Like, you hate me? Do you hate me right now? No?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Literally?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Why are you mad at me? They're like I'm bad?
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm like, why aren't you smiling when you you're texting
those people? And he's like, well, I'm just texting them,
I'm not thinking about you. And I'm like, I don't
get it, don't I'm in the room, but.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's staying in my head all. I don't understand people
have silent heads. I'm like, I'm walking down the steps,
I'm putting my it's a properly showing my head all
the time. I don't understand. I would love to talk
to Michael, tell me more. I don't because you don't
think about it, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Okay, listeners or Stephanie, tell the listeners where they can
find you, follow you, connect with you, get therapy from you,
all the things.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Oh, you can find our therapy website at w do
do dot Laura Rise dot com, Laura Rise, Laura Rise
A l l O r A r I s e
A Laura Rise. Don't forget the Rise like I do
work at the Rise, because otherwise I'll be in copyright
in our trademarking. Man, I'm get in trouble m hm.
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Instagram at lover Rise.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I think that that's I'll put it on the show
notes too, so that you can easily click and follow
and schedule your next therapy appointment. I love you, steph
Thanks for taking Like.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't know what we're gonna talk about. I was like,
I don't know, but that's the way for hours.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But you know what, that's just that's just why we're
so authentic. If we don't need a script.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I don't need a script. Just say a word and
I'll talk. I'll just keep talking. We can chat all
day in your head too.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh yeah, I also need to like, there's so many
possible titles for this episode that, like, while we've been talking,
speaking of inner dialogue, I'm like, that'd be a good Yeah. So,
I don't know what this thing's gonna be called, but
you will, listeners, because it's already out. Stephanie. I love
you so much, listeners. I'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Bite.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's going on? Everybody? Welcome back to Heart and Soul today.
I'm joined by my dear, dear friend, Stephanie Roback.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome, Seph, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's been a long time coming, but now you're finally
on the pod. Stephanie is the owner and founder of
Laura Is it a Laura Therapy, A.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Laura Rise Council, get therapy? Come on, Catherine, get it.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know I can't get the rise part A Laura Rise,
A Laura Rise, A Laura Rise.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We just like signed on kind of I'm not gonna lie.
I signed on a little like frazzled because my baby
woke up so early today and so she's offers ed
litl and I look like I just rolled out of
bed saying enough time to like get ready or do anything.
So I on YouTube, very very sorry, ameless living. So yeah,
I just feel kind of like a little lost. Plus
(01:10):
this morning I had to return let's just talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Me go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
This morning, I had to return I like did the
drive up thing for Target where you can.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Like praise Jesus.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Thank you Jesus, Yes you are good. But I ordered
a large. I'm like my sizing ever since I had
Coco has well, it's so changed, and so I like
don't know what size am, but I have to like
order all new swimsuits for this summer, and so I
ordered larges, thinking the mediums that I have here are
too small, so I'll go for a large. Well, then
(01:50):
the larges were too big in that specific swimsuits, so
I had to go return them this morning. So at
like eight am, No. Fifteen, I dropped William off at school,
and I just like the first person in the Target
parking lot and I'm like returning swimsuits. And then I'm like, well,
while i'm here, you know, we've got that non morning
bloat where you wake up and like you're like, maybe
(02:11):
I should try on sometimsuits while I'm here. So the
time I did like a crazy person, and I bought
like five swimsuits for this summer. Then I detect Michael
and be like sorry about the charge.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So that I've been the banking app right now.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, And then while I was driving home, that's when
she fell asleep in the car. And that's like always
like a you try to avoid car naps, but you do,
like the mom slap.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You're like, what what? Yeah, actually slapping? I don't slap
my children, but I tapped the top of their head.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Ye, yep, I didn't. It didn't work today, so she
fell asleep. So I've just been like, I feel like
I've lived three lives this morning. It's only nine am
or ten, I don't know. Okay, Stephanie, why don't you
tell my listeners a little bit more about who you
are and what you did and then we'll just go
from there.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay. I am a therapist, a mental health therapist. I'm
a licensed clinical social worker and a licensed Clinical addiction specialist.
Those are the letters next to my naming. I own
and founded a Laura originally a Rise Counseling and Therapy.
That is a long story. We should talk about it
on my Instagram. I can talk about it. It's a
(03:23):
whole hot mess of a story. They recently set me
another legal notice because we still owned our old domainion
that was rerouting to our new domain. We're not allowed
to do that. So my lawyer was like, uh, Sephanie,
and I was like, please, if I'd never see a
lawyer's name in my email again, praise the Lord, because
I bout poot my pants every time I see a
lawyer's name in my eye.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I can only imagine that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I should probably do some more I do. I've
done a lot of therapy in my life. I'm a therapist.
I go to therapy. I need to probably specific therapy
on the trauma that I have the trauma response. I
have two lawyers in my email. Yeah. So we were
a Rise counseling in therapy for four years. In October,
we changed to a Laura Rise and we probably go
mostly by a Laura. But actually because this time we're
(04:06):
trademarking it, because somebody came after me for not having
a Rise trademarked. They had the word a Rise trademark.
They lived across the country, they were a healthcare organization,
and they said we're gonna stomp you out change your
name in ten days, and I so give me sixty First,
I said, heck no, I just put my foot down
and I was like, absolutely not. My lawyers were like,
you're probably gonna have to do that, and I was like, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Trademarking is weird. Like I had a trademark, shame was living.
I'm like, anywhere can say it, like right, say that.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Right, that's the thing. It's like I have, I have,
We're having So that's the whole We were gonna name
it a Laura. They said, a Laura is already trademarked weird,
but you can do laura a Laura with another word.
We can trademark with praise. And I was like, cool,
let's add rise and to a rise rise whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
There's a there's another business called soul so Eli but
it's like treadmills and I get emails randomly from like
angry customers about their treadmill and I'm like, it ain't me.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I just know, mean I didn't do it. But yeah,
so I have a Laura. I'm getting all. We're in
the cross the eighteen month process of getting a Laura
rise trademark, so nobody's nobody try to do it. I'm
doing it, but you're here because I'm like, I would
never yeah, I would never go after someone. It's for
my protection. I saw It's so weird to me that
people have a random word in the dictionary trademark and
then they're like, you can't use it, and you can't
(05:30):
use it and you can't praise Jesus. I was terrifed.
I mean I was. That was probably one of the
lower moments in my I go on zoom call. But
the women who worked for me truly are the best
women in the world. And I was like, you alls,
got you gotta hop on a zoom call. They thought
I was like closing the door. They didn't know what was.
I was like, we're having a zoom call tonight eight PM.
Like I need you all on it. I PM, and
I was like and I was just hysterically crying. I
(05:53):
was like, this is going to ruin your referrals. No
one's going to be able to find us. Your existing
clients aren't going to be able to find us. Doctors
and physicians aren't going to be able to referred to us, like,
because we're going to be just lost off the face
of the ark. All the four years that I spent
tabling and marketing and knocking on doors and dropping donuts
off at doctors off like is gone, is gone? So
you're all screwed. You're not getting any more worlds, blah blah.
(06:15):
And they all were like and I was like, if
you want to leave, like I understand, Like whatever you
need to do, I understand. And they all God bless them,
We're like we stand by you. This is not gonna
shake us. We're we're You're gonna be great. You're gonna
come out better than ever. And I was like, and
we did really like Willington, North Carolina. I can't even
explain it with the community. I posted this video which
(06:37):
everyone was telling me I had to get in front
of the camera, which I don't really on our social media,
and I was like no, And finally someone was sat
me down, was like Stephanie, you need to learn how
to ask for help. And I was like, okay, so
I saw oh. I sat in front of the camera
and just basically pleated for help. I was like, look,
we need this name change spread across Wilmington because otherwise
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people won't know where we went and I'll be looking
for a rise and it doesn't exist. And it got
so many shares by like all of the small businesses,
and like I was seriously like hysterically front of like
this is the kindest gesture, just like people saying like
we will not let you fail or fall apart or
get lost. And it was so cool. So we actually
(07:19):
ended up I think better than we started, which was
not I anticipated.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
No, y'all people rallied.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, people did rally around.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Wilmington really is the best, especially for like small business
owners because like, I'm not gonna ask S forty five
to like spread something about me because it's a franchise.
But like any other local business, gym is like always
willing to like do an event or share one of
my fitness things, and it's like we're not in competition.
(07:49):
It's like everyone's just kind of like in it together,
which I love totally.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I love it. I love it. But yes, that's my
that's my name. Take story still go. I still find
things that have like I'm like, oh, man, like my
Capital one business, I'm like, it's going to taking a
minute's called Capital one, so three hours to change my name,
do it right now? Which might be illegal, so nobody.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, I like that's how like just changing your actual
name is. That's why I changed my last name until
like six years in a marriage because I was like
and then we had a baby named Collins, and I
was like, I have to do it now, like like
what they're I'm gonna be giving birth and they're like,
so Collins Collins.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Is her name, like cycle, I'm like, I just love it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But I still find things like I bought a car
a couple like a month ago and I did like
cashier's check and like I get there, I have like
twenty minutes to get this touchier check and they're like, oh,
your name's not changed on this account. And I was like, yeah,
there's always something.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Something, but yeah. So I own a small mental practice.
Our main locations on Right School Beach. We have satellite
location on Ald. It is eight of us in total.
Everybody does something different, but we're all women. Really important
to me that we were like female owned and ran
and led and everything, because I just no hate on men,
but the women we just gotta stand together, you know,
no hate, but like a little you know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like no, I love that you're all women. And everyone
that I met this past weekend because they didn't work
out at Soul, I'm like obsessed with everyone you work with,
Like you have such a good environment over.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
There there Yeah, that has been my thing with hiring,
which I've just learned and grown over time. So this
we're gonna hit in our find your anniversary in May,
and over time has just been like learning how to
do notes. Da da da da, all of that can
be learned. Being a great, wonderful human being cannot like
that is a heart and soul like that is you
just feel that and someone all of these women, if
(09:49):
you meet any single one of them, you immediately feel
like daggers in your heart that they are just like
a genuine, wonderful assault of the earth human being. I
am so lucky. Yeah, man, I just love that. I
was obsessed with them. If I was going on therapy,
i'd picked one of that.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You know, no, for sure, I was like, maybe I
need to change hera like even when someone posted a
photo of the workout and then I shared it and
then people were sliding into my dance.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Oh my gosh, I love her. I love her. How
do you know her?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And like one of my soul girls was like that's
My therapist was like, don't.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I don't think I need to know that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think that's like confidential. But yeah, they're they're really
all amazing, and that kind of was a testament to
you as a leader too. I mean, thanks, people trust
you and they want to be surrounded by someone who's
like encouraging but also like a teammate, not just like
authoritative figure. So you're very good at being like a
teammate and a cheerleader for people.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Thank you. That's learned too. I think you get into
it and you get like, I mean, I grew up
not in my family nobody owns a business, Like there
wasn't a ton of like that stuff. Top I never
thought that I would own a business. And my husband
really liked was the one that was like you could
totally do this. But I think fear and anxiety and
doubt creep in and then especially in the beginning, and
you're like can I do this? Do we have the
(11:05):
money to do? Like are we going to follow hard?
Like finances are scary? Talking about money is scary, like
especially being at there, because you don't learn about that
in school. You know, get a lot of freaking school
to become a therapist, but nobody talks about business stuff.
If you wanted to do that, And I think over
the last probably three years, I've really refined that, like,
my role here is to love people.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, that is it?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Like, that is it? I show up every day and
like love These women who work here are clients like
anybody we interact with, the businesses we partner with, Like,
my only job is to love that person. Well, however
that whatever the conversations about, whatever it looks like, and
it always works out. And I feel like there's probably
lots of business owners that are like, that's dumb indvies no,
but that's so true. But it's just all I do.
(11:45):
Like I literally I'm like, no matter what comes my way,
I just told you when we go logged down here
that I got a really anxiety provoking text message that
I have to answer regarding to the business. I'm going
to posture myself. I'm going to pray about like my
faith is important to me. I'm going to pray about it.
I'm gonna get my heart right. I'm going to come
a position of love, and that is it. And whatever
happens and unfolds is like it's just kind of unfold
how it shit?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I I mean that's the difference makers love and
I mean, especially as believers, like running a business from
like a holy spirit mindset. Yeah, well, I guess posture,
like you said, is the difference maker in what people like,
what sets you apart? I am. I mean obviously I'm human,
so like not always in my life, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
We've definitely had our personal trading signs around, like Catherine.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But what I was you say is like, I mean
just two weeks ago you were here and I was
like venting hard about my business and I hadn't done
what you had just said, which is just like prayed
about it, and like it's so simple and it's but
it's like so revolutionary to just like actually posture your
heart and surrender and be like why would I doubt
(12:54):
a god who gave me this calling and has provided
all of this in the past, So why would I
doubt him now?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And even the human mindset where like I can fix
it and then we get into fixing mode, it's like
you're just you're just going with your ego and your
agenda and your and that doesn't work out totally.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And like even if he decides maybe this is the
time to end your business, Like how many transitions have
I been through in my life where he's like set
me up for the next thing, you know what I mean,
It's like door open, a bigger door, different door. And
and then people who come into your business, like I'm
sure you get this a lot, like just your space.
(13:33):
Like if you pray over the state that you actually
like live in and work in, people feel something different.
We've done, like Michael and I've done like prayer walks
around the house or like when we first moved here,
like we really prayed over the gym and then like
just to see like the I guess the chains kind
(13:54):
of just break a little bit, and people in that
specific room because of that, Like that's powerful, Like people believe,
even if they're not believers, they're like, something's different about
this space. I feel safe here. I feel like yeah,
and that's that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, and you're I mean, you're great at that and
obviously is your space, but you're amazing at that too.
I think like the one takeaway when we all like
walked out of working house, everyone was like it just
felt like safe. I felt like secure. I felt like
she wasn't judging. But I know that you go to
gym sometimes and it's like people are they're not judging it,
but they maybe be judging like your level or your
ability or like you're like you just have this ability
to make everybody feel like no matter how you're coming in,
(14:29):
like girl, I'm gonna help you. And also it's fine,
like it's fine however you come in, it's fine, like we'reah,
we're gonna do it, and we're gonna You're gonna be fine.
You're safe to be however.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You are here. I think the saying goes for thank
you for saying that, but I think the same thing
goes for your business as well, is like there's this
when you can make like a connection with a client
of like we're all just a little messed up. Like
I I have never come into my gym as a
coach with like a six pack, because I'm like a
normal human who like love, like loves wine and streets
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and like balance and you know, I used to work
at other gyms where everyone was like ripped and I
was just kind of like like fit but normal looking, right,
And I would get really in my head of like,
oh no, this, a client's not gonna want to work
with me over this person because I don't have to.
And anyways, all that to say is like same thing
with you with how you run your business is like
you you show up vulnerable and not like you have
(15:25):
everything together, which probably frees your clients up to be like,
but she also struggles that I can struggle too freely
with her. And it's just that just vulnerability breeds vulnerability
and it's really cool to see, so.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Cool, thank you for that, but it's yeah, I think
that's also just a learning, a learning over time, like
you do you do show up wine. I got not
so good advice when I first opened. I remember someone
telling me, like to keep my employees or there. I
don't even call them like everybody that my boss. I'm like,
stop calling me your boss. But I was like, keep
them out like your arms, like they shouldn't know so
(16:00):
about your life they should know. Like, but I invited
all these wonderful women to my children's birthday party. Yeah,
come on it, you know it's like yes, from a
business perspective, like that might make you be able to
make like hard decisions forever, like any if anything ever
hits the it did. I showed them when stuff hit
the fan here, I zoomed them on and I told
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them all, yeah, I said, this is what I'm never
gonna come from a position of like having a heart
to make difficult, like there's nothing that's ever just gonna
come and like knock somebody off their feet, where I
would want like a sale distant relationship with them to
like preserve myself. It's like, no, I want these women
to know that I truly from the depths of my
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soul love and care about them. I want them to
do well. I want them their families to do well,
like I want them to be whole and healthy and
all the time. Here it is always like if you
need some time off, you don't have to expect like
just block your calendar, just take a minute. Like when
I find see anybody has like stacked clients, I'm like,
what are you doing? Are you eating lunch? Did you
take a break today? Like I am, I'm here to
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like love these women well. And I remember that was
like the advice I got for one person's specifically was
like keep them out of arm's length. And I was like,
now I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm gonna agree that well, and that that also is
what sets I feel like women own businesses apart, Like
you said, You're like I only hire women, and same
with me. Like only women clients, women, women, women, And
I think that's what sets us apart because there's a
difference between a man leading a company and a woman
leading company. And this is like take Jesus out of it,
(17:36):
like we'll put himlet in a second. Like men are
just very like logistical, very like not a lot of vulnerability,
just naturally how they're yeah, yeah, how they're created. Well,
then you add Jesus into it, and obviously things are
different and like that's a separate thing. But then women,
even without Jesus, were just like can we just like
(17:58):
share our feelings like we're just mergers like and how
we were made. And then you add the Lord into
that on top of that, and it's just like I
don't think I could lead from a place of like
walls up and like totalitarian. Like it's how I what
I say goes separate. Business is not personal personal, you know.
(18:20):
It's like as the other week, I'm like I'm like, well,
you know, when a client leaves, like I'd like to
say like, oh, it's not personal, it's business, but for
me it kind of is personal because.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
These people are my people, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, So it's there's a good there's pros and
cons to both, but I feel like the ways when
it comes to leaving that way totally.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, Okay, it's true value.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I was going to say, like, you know, I was thinking,
you know what, I wasn't yawning, but I wouldn't put
it past me with the morning of it there. No,
I was gonna say. When you were talking, you were like,
I started this five years ago in May. I'm like,
that's like COVID.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That was like, absolutely, it was very COVID. It was
the crazy yeah, only God, you know, just God. It
was not a smartness that there were so many not
wise decisions that any business owner would have told me
not to do it, and I was like, I'm going
to do it. I feel like Jesus told me to
do it. Even right now, like we technically have the
ability to take on another therapist for a while. We have,
(19:24):
and my husband's like, you know, talking to me about it,
and my answer is always like God's telling me not
to hire anybody, And people I know think that that's weird.
And I totally understand that I told him when I
was a non believer, like totally, but like I'll just
tell me so like that it was like it was
a weird unfolding. We were supposed to move my husband lives.
Husbands family lives in Pinehurst, North Carolina. We were supposed
to move there. We just wanted to be closer to
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family to raise our families. We bought a house there.
We were going to move, and it ended up that
he thought he would be able to be remote and
his company told him no. So when they told him no,
we had to pivot. We found like the company that
built houses there. We were able to transfer and buy
a house here. But I had already started dreaming and
making this plan. I was just doing a solo practice
in Pinehurst, and I was like, had all the libal
(20:07):
logos and all this stuff, and I was like, I
just feel like I'm not meant to put this down
even though we're staying here. So it's like I'm just
gonna do something solo here off this face on Rightsville Beach,
which ended up being a huge blessing because like there's
gonna be no time besides the pandemic that you can
you know, and the weird part in between there is
that they told him no, you can't be remote, and
(20:28):
then the world shut down a month later and he
worked remote for three years. God shut the door, like
right before.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It was crazy time me So we only had already
not been that you probably would.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Have been we would have been living in Pinehurst totally,
because we would have been, like if we had made
the decision a month later, we've been like, oh, it's pandemic,
he's we're gonna be remote for a while anyway. But
it was right before, which was ended up being like
a really cool thing. I don't remember what I was
gonna say. Yes I did, totally did, and I was,
(20:58):
but I wouldn't been able to get an off on
right fool Beach. It was just a ghost town because
nobody had office space. So I was like, I'll run
this office. And I was like that's a dumb idea,
and I was like, I'm going to do it, which
ended up being cool because you and CW like reached out.
No one would take their intern You have to have
an internship to be able to graduate with your MSW,
and so we took two interns, like we just had.
We end up having space for like I took two
(21:20):
interns and then we ended up I was like, I'll
never have a group practice. I never want to do that.
And then one person came with like, hey, I'd love
to work with you, and I'll be like, okay, come on.
Another person I was like, okay, come on, and I
was like I actually love this, Like I think it's
my favorite part of the whole thing. Now I was
like being able to support mentor like other therapists, and
so it ended up all working out. But yes, really
(21:41):
bad idea worked out really well for us. YEA, our
second space in the right school beach location. We have
two suites that are right next to each other. But
I was nine months pregnant. I remember that was Alie. Yeah,
I was. I was working out with you at the time.
I was like, this is a really dum idea, But like,
if I don't do it now, there's never any space
alo in this building. If I don't do it right now,
I'm not going to get like I'm not going to
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get the opportunity to do it. So we signed it again.
I was like, this is a dumb idea, Like, but
we found two wonderful, incredible therapists and yeah, it all
just worked at all these things that I'm like, that's
a really dumb idea. I'm gonna do it. I figure
it out. It always works out.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And everything that seems really hard, like even the name change.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oh yeah, oh like that almost took me out. I
literally said to my husband. I literally said, I was like,
closed the doors. I'm done, Like I'm done. This is
I was already act. I was just in a season
which I think that we were working out together than
to before that. I was in a season where I
was at capacity. Yeah, Like I was like, I have
so many tasks and so many things, and I love
(22:41):
but I don't ever show up here and be like
this doesn't feel like working. But it's a lot of tasks,
a lot of things. I have two babies, Like, I
just have a lot. I'm a capacity. If anything else,
I kept saying for like weeks before that, if anything
else comes on my plate, like I'm just gonna lose
my mind. And then it was like name change, change
everything with insurance companies, all of the Secretary of State
(23:02):
go there six different times, marketing website. Have so read
the website. I ready to instagram. Take all the signs off,
all the building, take all your merch out, throw that
in the trash. I donated. Also, everyone's God there's probably
lots of people with like cute Ariz sweatshirts locked around
down there do yeah now. But I was just I
(23:23):
was like it was funny because I was like, God,
if you put one more thing on my plate, I'm
gonna crack. And he did it and I said, I'm done.
Close the doors. I'm done done. I'm not doing this.
I can't do this. I don't have the time to
do this. And I was almost like, you're gonna do it,
and I was like, I'm not. Well. I call with
these girls and they were like, we love you. We
love this, like people will support you. You're gonna We're
gonna be fine. And I was like we're and then
we were yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And it's always like that, when you think you hit
capacity in life, when God throws something else at you.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And he's like, I'll never say that out loud again.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's like, don't you know that? That's when I brune
you is in the hard bass, and I'm like, no,
I don't like that. It really is true, like even
like even like Michael's whenever I talk about like possibly
wanting a third baby, Michael's like, do you remember being pregnant?
Six times in four years and I'm like, no, I
did not really try, and it's like, of course you do.
(24:16):
But it's like, yes, it's always in those hard seasons
where you're prone the most, so you're like, yeah, it's
gonna be worth it, right, Same thing with business is
like I know, I know it'll be worth it, but
I just don't know if I can handle it. And
then he's like, oh well you don't have to, like
I can handle it for us. You're like, whenever you
like talk like this, when you're like to go to the
super serious dude, then market is that. Do you ever
(24:38):
feel like, oh my gosh, like I'm officially grown up?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I feel like it impost her all the time. Somebody
asked me that the other day. Someone I was talking
like a young I think she's going to be a
new grad and she's like, when do you get over?
I was like, you don't.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You just don't feel like I'm sixteen.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm a teen mom who owens who gave me
a baby and keys to a and text messages with
people asking me about lease agreevance and attorney's emailing me
about like I'm too young? Where's my mom? Where's the adult?
Where's my mommy. Somebody couldn't help me.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
No, but literally, my mom's like, yeah, my house right now,
cleaning out my closet.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So like, we still need our mommies, We still need
our mommies. Yeah, my dad's coming this weekend, and I'm like,
I just need a hug, like, you know, literally, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, yeah, let's just dump to that you're a mom
of two and he decided to get pregnant, start a business,
and do all this at the same time. What's it
like juggling entrepreneurship and motherhood and be.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Honest, Well, I would like you to picture in your
mind like a dumpster that's on fire. Just kidding Sometimes
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I would be the title of the episode, a dumpster
fire with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Jesus is little going It's gonna be okay, and I'm going, yes, No.
I mean, our first baby was really hard zero to
one for me. I think we've talked about this. People
say one to two is hard, three to three is
hard around but what zero one was like and the
height of pandemic we were pregnant, So I was like,
that's why I saw your Groceries season, which I was
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doing because I was pregnant, terrified and let anybody come
near us. So I was totally isolated, just open to business,
pregnant with my first child. Yes, struggled really hard. I
had a really bad post part of OCD after. Yeah,
I just struggled. It was a struggle. I think that
what got me through it was a lot of prayer,
a lot of surrender and just recognizing like what was
(26:43):
in my control, what was that what needed to be done.
I always give myself, like even if I don't write
it down in my mind, and always every day get
I felt like hierarchy of like this is the stuff
that has to be done, Like these are the When
I explain the clients, it's like you're juggling rubber balls
and glass balls. The glass ones you dropped were going
to shatter. Those are important. The rubber ones, if you
drop them, might not be the best thing, but they're
going to bounce back up and you're gonna be able
to catch them again, so that's good. I might have
(27:04):
twenty five tasks to do today, but like two of
them are glass which usually are like my children. And
sometimes there's something with the business that absolutely has to
be addressed today. Has to get done. Especially when it
was name change season, it was like I have to
be at the Secretary of State today, like everything else
needs to kind of bounce or be handed to somebody else,
or I think that what makes it like it's definitely
(27:29):
maybe not a dumpster by maybe the dumpster I don't
maybe dumpster's smoking right now. It's not like totally on fire.
But I have those days where, yeah, I have I'll
wake up and there's sixteen emails of like really urgent
things that need to be addressed, and they want to
it's accountants and lawyers and blah blah meetings like back
to back to back. And then my kids wake up
and of course it's the day that they wake up
and they're just like rabid animals. I have take the
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ways and they literally wake up and just start beating
each other up.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Sometimes it's always day.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's always the most glass balls to hold. Yeah, the
kids decide to be like, they're like, oh, they want
another if you want something else to figure out today,
and you just ask. I think it's you ask for help,
you surrender to for me. If you're a faith different person,
which if you're not, you have to figure out what holds,
what anchors you? My anchor is Jesus, that's mine, and
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just surrendering of like I don't have to do it
perfectly and it doesn't all have to be right. And
at the end of the day, whatever he wants, it's
his will, it's going to happen. And playing onto your friend,
like talking to you is always like cathartic for me.
I have other friends who have businesses and have kids,
and it's just a different way of wife. Like I
wake up at four o'clock in the morning. I would
like to sleep until seventy. I can't because if I
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do that, I am a hot mess. I mean, I
know for mine, you have to learn yours. I think
that that's actually probably my biggest Then you have to
learn your You have to know yourself. I am not
a night person. When it hits seven pm, when the
kids go to bed, I want to go to bed.
I can bear. I can't do anything important. I can
like maybe sift through some emails, but really I'm so
for me, It's like I have to wake up really
(29:03):
really early and get myself together. I have quiet time,
I exercise, I move my body, I eat something before
the kids wake up and then I'm like more present
and ready, and then they go to school for a
few hours and I'm like, go go, go, go, go, get
everything done, and then I want to be present with
them and I want to stare at the wall and
then learn your own rhythm.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's that's a really good advice. That's so true, the
learning your own rhythm, because there might be some moms
like I train it. I train someone who is a
mom and she also works from home, and she's like,
I get most of my work done after the kid
goes to bed, and then I can sleep in a
little bit longer and wake up with it. And I'm like, well,
(29:44):
if that works for you, that's great. Like you just
have to want to know yourself and and.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Not judge yourself and not compare yourself to other people,
because that totally killed me with baby number one. I
was like, all the moms are like, why is this
girl working? She should be home with her baby too.
In my head and this is my distorted cognitive distortions.
Here in the therapy world, I'm like, all the moms think, wow,
she she sends her children to you know, a three
hour preschool morning. She's a terrible mom, she should be
(30:10):
home with her babies, and all the therapists are probably
looking at me, saying she doesn't see a full caseload
of therapists is our clients in a day? Like she
she only sees a few clients a week, like she's
not really a therapist. But in my head, I'm like,
am I therapist? Or am I a mom? Am? I?
Like what am I? And I feel like just this year,
I've been like I'm both yeah, and I can do both,
and I structure my time to do both and to
(30:32):
do both really well, and like, but I succumbed to that,
like everybody's judging me.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, what Michael calls it like analysis paralysis, Like when
you start analyzing other people's lives and like comparing, then
you like paralyze your own like life because you're just
thinking I'm not enough and it's so not true. Also,
like have you ever like looked at a mom on
Instagram and like she's really not like measuring enough? Like
I never know, I never like judged other so like
(31:00):
why do I always think always think that judgy mey
or being like okay, you know, even like with like
this is so silly, but even with like Easter.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Like this is my Easter basket measure literally like, oh
my gosh, I didn't do an Easter egg hunt. And
my mother was like, you're not doing an Easter I'm
like they had one at school. I didn't know I didn't.
And then my kid woke up and said, do I
have Easter eggs? And I was like, no, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
First of all, yeah, my kids did at school, So
I'm like, okay, well check that's doune. But like then,
you know, even like seeing like the matching outfits and
like the the easter baskets that have like their names
like embroidered, Like I got my note Walmart the night
before and I had them deliver it like because I
didn't have time to go to the store. So it's
(31:46):
like but no, I know, like nobody's saying I'm a
bad mom, but you just like think that and maybe
someone is and if you are, like, that's on you
because I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
A kid mom. Yeah, it's crazy though, it's crazy there.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But then we're also like we always talk about this too.
You and I were like we're so, you know, we're drowning,
and then we're like but like one more like when
not one more baby, you know, like there's something really wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
With my husband thinks there's something wrong with me because
all the time I'm like I can't again, like the
same thing as before, I can't handle it. If one
more thing goes on my plate, a crumb lambs on
this plate, You're gonna have to I don't even know,
send me on to an island alone for a while,
like I'm gonna craft, I'm gonna freak out. And I'm like,
but like one more baby would be really He's like, Stephanie,
(32:35):
you're drowning you literally like you all the time You're
like I can't handle this. I'm like, we're already in chaos.
What's one more?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
What I say?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
That's literally what I said, What's one more?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
What's one more? We are gutons for punishment?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We love, we love what I love babies.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Michael does the same thing. Like even yesterday, like I
was so sweet to him via tech. I was like
because he has he has a really busy week and
it's like you got Like I was like, you've got
this this week, send him like kiss the emojis and
like funny gifts, like to encourage him. And then like
he gets home after after work and I'm like, Taggrrette,
(33:17):
It's like, what happened? What happened to the morning text girl?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And I'm like, gone, she's gone. They someding like out.
I mean, she's gone, she's gone. But I go to
sleep and you're like scrolling looking at pictures that were
watching them, so you're like just or.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You like roll over and look at them.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You're like are you doing boo?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Like trying to give them like.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You can see a baby? Like you scared me when
I came home from work today. Is that gonna get worse?
It's not personal, it's business. Yeah, And I don't think
it's I don't think I get more. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I don't know that I can get more stressed.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, then but we can't, but we'll just do it anyway. Yeah, Okay,
I have these five questions. I feel like we could
talk forever. By the way, so we we do have
businesses and babies. But I have five questions that I
used to ask every single guest, but I stopped. I
decided to stop it in season seven. And I don't
know why because they are actually pretty good questions. But
(34:21):
I think just for time's sake, motherhood. But I kind
of want to ask you. I'm gonna go back. I'm
gonna go back to those questions. Okay. First question, what
is something that you're currently obsessed with right now?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I just read Yours truly, this book that came out,
and I was obsessed. I stayed up past my bedtime
last night, so I would I would say, like, like
romantic books right now, I'm into it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
She's crazy staying up past to bedtime?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Did? I was like, I stayed up till nine thirty
and I woke up up four. My husband's like was
it worth it? And I was like, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And then you're like also like rolling your eyes and
just like die, I'll be sleeping by two pm. Yeah,
for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Second question, what's something that you are very excited for
in like, I mean another child.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I don't let my husband listen to this. He's getting
pretty that now. Uh, probably being more present. I feel
like I've been really allowing myself to be refined. I
got on social media for a whole month. I'm on
my back on it now, but I was off it
for a whole month, and I felt that helped me
just kind of like detop. I feel like I'm doing
doing some work and being present and I'm giving tasks
(35:29):
away like work, which is not my I'm like I'm
super type A, so I'm like got my checklist and
all my stuff. I'm delegating like crazy and having people
like hired on to help with things and and so
I feel like I feel like I'm regaining my ability
to like be really present, which I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
What is something that you really love about yourself right now?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's not a therapist A therapy question I'm not prepared for.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Doesn't have to be physical obviously.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Authenticity, Yeah, I would say, I would say I'm proud
of and I love my authenticity. I think that I
if something's going on, you're gonna see it, you're gonna
feel it. But like I'm very authentic in like my
interactions with people. I don't love I'm I'm actually like
kind of an introvert and so I don't love like
(36:16):
surface level chatty. Like I want to be authentic. I
want to know what's really going on in your heart,
like I want help and I want to love on people.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
So I feel like authenticity you are very authentic. I
love that about you, honestly. I don't know if there
were five questions or there or four, but I can
only remember four. So I asked the fourth one, I
just like I don't know the other two. The fourth one,
the final one is if you could leave a post
it note of encouragement or truth on someone's like mirror
(36:47):
or computer today, what would say? Short and sweet?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I would probably say, your thoughts aren't always true, breach
most of the time. I will not say all the time,
because obviously life happens, and like real things happen, and
it gets really hard. Most of our internal chaos and
anxiety and all worries and all the things come from
things that we can conft in our own linds, and
our thoughts about ourselves and our surroundings and what's going on.
The way that you see the world is the way
that you're gonna interact with the world, right, So if
(37:12):
your thoughts are not filled with truth, then they're coming
from things you're worried about, our ancient abou or whatever.
That's a totally changed the way you interact with your
world and feel and see and relationships and all the things.
So I would just say that your thoughts are not
always true.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I have to remind myself that a lot, especially. I
actually learned that in therapy when I have my eating disorder.
But also I started finding scripture around it, and like,
you know, take every thought captive, Like it's so biblical
to be like take the thought captive. Assess if that's
from the enemy or from the father, Like would God
say that about you?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Right, okay, well then that's not true, and then you
can like replace the thought with truth. You're so wise,
y'all know.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Well, I still struggle. I always try to do the
drive when I have like full on like scenarios that
didn't happen happening in my head and I'm like, well
that happens. What what I do? What I'm saying? What happened?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And I'm like, I just had a full blown conversation
with myself around something that isn't true, didn't happen. Yeah,
it's filled with like lies and truth. And I just
did that for ten minutes. So like I do it too. Yeah,
I just I guess try to catch myself.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I mean I could be in I could take a
five minute shower and within the shower. I have written
a whole movie scene about things that could go wrong
in my life. Yeah, and Michael like doesn't have inner dialogue,
which is like crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's crazy. I am like constantly nothing, it's just silence.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
He's like, well, I'm just kind of like doing what
I'm doing, like focused on that. And I'm like, I've
never had no anxiety, Like no, like what what? I
don't get it. And then I'll be like in my
head when he's like actually focused on something and not
like staring at me and trying to flirt, I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Like, you hate me? Do you hate me right now? No?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Literally?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Why are you mad at me? They're like I'm bad?
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm like, why aren't you smiling when you you're texting
those people? And he's like, well, I'm just texting them,
I'm not thinking about you. And I'm like, I don't
get it, don't I'm in the room, but.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's staying in my head all. I don't understand people
have silent heads. I'm like, I'm walking down the steps,
I'm putting my it's a properly showing my head all
the time. I don't understand. I would love to talk
to Michael, tell me more. I don't because you don't
think about it, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Okay, listeners or Stephanie, tell the listeners where they can
find you, follow you, connect with you, get therapy from you,
all the things.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Oh, you can find our therapy website at w do
do dot Laura Rise dot com, Laura Rise, Laura Rise
A l l O r A r I s e
A Laura Rise. Don't forget the Rise like I do
work at the Rise, because otherwise I'll be in copyright
in our trademarking. Man, I'm get in trouble m hm.
(40:01):
Instagram at lover Rise.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I think that that's I'll put it on the show
notes too, so that you can easily click and follow
and schedule your next therapy appointment. I love you, steph
Thanks for taking Like.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't know what we're gonna talk about. I was like,
I don't know, but that's the way for hours.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But you know what, that's just that's just why we're
so authentic. If we don't need a script.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I don't need a script. Just say a word and
I'll talk. I'll just keep talking. We can chat all
day in your head too.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh yeah, I also need to like, there's so many
possible titles for this episode that, like, while we've been talking,
speaking of inner dialogue, I'm like, that'd be a good Yeah. So,
I don't know what this thing's gonna be called, but
you will, listeners, because it's already out. Stephanie. I love
you so much, listeners. I'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Bite.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Thanks for listen, Name to Heart and Soul.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
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Speaker 3 (41:06):
You get your podcast. Talk to you next week.
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