May 21, 2025 • 42 mins
My girl, Summer Lambert, is BACK!! We talk all about her incredible pregnancy news and what that has looked like, our obsession with Survivor, and how we are surviving life right now!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Heart and Soul Podcast with Catherine Banko.
I'm on a mission to celebrate breakthrough, empowerment and shameless
living in the lives of women everywhere. Join me and
let's live unashamed together.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here. It's me.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I've gotten William to say that he loves saying it
because he loves the marrow. Buddy. What's up, everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Do?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I just put it back on our crutches. Uh, yeah,
we're we're recording. I'm gonna leave this in. Let me
move the camera a different way.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, the camera's a little low.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Our crotches are with it better.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I think you need to scoo the books closer to us,
like six inches, and you better relate on all Hey editing, Yeah,
there you go. Go.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Okay, Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Welcome back to Heart and Soul today. I'm joined by
my dear, dear, dear, dear dear friend, Summer Saunders Lambert.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You got it right, do a dear a female deer,
that's me.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do, dear female dear. It's been way too long since
you've podcasted with me.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's true, y'all got to tell you something funny. Tell
I took family photos for Catherine last week.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
There's a lot of funny come out of this.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah. And while I was driving to Oceanile, sorry to
give away your location, but it's inesight now.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well yeah, now I'm not there, so all my followers
won't come by, they won't come talking.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I thought to myself, Man, I missed podcasting. I should
ask Catherine if she wants to have a guest soon.
And so after the shoot has told her that, she
goes I don't have anybody next week when it comes by,
I was like, yeah, I'll be there. So here I am.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And that's how we plan here in the podcasting verse
universe pod verse.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Sometimes a solo episode is good, sometimes an interview is better.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, I just feel like, okay, So I've been podcasting
for a while now. This is my seventh season. And
when it was me and Chelsea, it was a lot
easier to get guessed because there's two of us, right,
and what our powers combined?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah? Two leads?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah at all time? Have we know different people? It
was a lot easier. And then when I was just
with one child and he was in daycare, it was
still easy because I could still work now with Cocoa.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Got two child I got too childs and no co hosts.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I got no co host so and I got no
daycare for the coco.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So that that girls two variables minus one lead equals
tougher equals really hard toughing it.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm doing it, and like I have finally let go
of the perfectionism in me of feeling like I need
to even show up every week. If there's a week
where I'm just I can't. I cannot make it happen.
So sorry to all two hundred of my listeners, I'm
not going to be here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Fine, Yeah, sorry for so yeah, so here, that's how
I got here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm really really glad because we haven't really caught up
in a minute, like a year more probably more. I
mean I feel like the last time we caught up
was probably been podcasted, and that was probably season five,
so I can listen.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, it was a good one.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Feel how are you?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm great? And lots of things. Eighteen weeks pregnant, so
we actually talked a little bit about that, I think
in season five, just I think it was faith over fear,
talking about yeah, not letting fear control you, and a
lot of stuff I've been working through in my body
journey was to get me to a place to where
I could have children, and so just to be in
(03:21):
the middle of that now is really special to be
able to talk about. And so, yeah, dealing with all
the fun things with pregnancy for me is just sleeping
a lot. Yeah, And so it sounds great.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So you want to go backwards, if you don't mind,
I should share a little bit about, uh, the process
it's took to get here.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah. So you know, I think we're all collectively on
the same page of understanding that healthcare is not great,
but it's just not especially women's healthcare. Yeah, and for
all of our friends that are doctors, nurses, pas, FNPs
all that, like, we love you. What's an F and
P Family nurse practitioner.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, love the title?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, my F and p F And it's kind of
like you're saying fan.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, that's I like it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I means it. My doctor right now is an
F and P. Anyways, we respect that profession, love it
all the things. Yes, all of our friends we love Okay,
but the system itself is broken, especially for women's because
most of the things tested to find out prognosis for
people is on men. So that's why when women come
(04:29):
with pain or when when women come with things, they
don't have the data. Not anyone's fault, it's just not
what people are trained in right now, right a lot
of people are going towards holistic medicine all the things. Okay,
So it took me a long time to trust doctors
because in twenty eighteen, I went to my obign for
a routine appointment and while I was in the appointment, Okay,
(04:51):
you know, I don't know how graph we want to get, but.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's pretty open, it's pretty vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, you open, you vulnerable. There's a spotlight on your
hu ha. And I was like expressing concerns about birth
control stuff and feeling like it wasn't helping my body,
and instead of them wanting to talk me through it,
they just said, yeah, we're just gonna put we can
put you on a wait list for gastric bypass if
you want, Like that was the answer for me straggling
with my weight. Yeah, so I said get out and
(05:16):
I never went back. So I didn't which you waited
for like five years. Don't argummend that I.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But also don't blame you like yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What Yeah, And I didn't tell anyone about that for
years because I felt so ashamed and just like I
felt trapped in my body. And so I think three
years ago is when I really started this journey of
like I must get to the root of this. There's
something going on, Like I work out all the time,
I eat pretty healthy, something's not correlating here right. Found
out I have a PCOS, which is polycystic ovarian syndrome.
(05:45):
A lot of different variations of it, excuse me, but
irregular cycles is a main factor or symptom. So working
on like eating right for my body type, working on
a positive mindset of my body, like a bunch of
that stuff was where I started. And then the past
(06:06):
year started working directly with a doctor that I trusted,
and she wanted me to try different medications for things,
and so I tried semi glue tide, which is kind
of like would go v eurozabac or something, but a
different dose of it for like pre diabetic reasons. Of course,
if you're diabetic, they'll give it to you. But if
you're pre diabetic, which is again a medical system little.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Bit, let's wait till you're broken. Soil we yea solve
the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And you know, to my surprise, it didn't really help
with weight loss, but it did help with my cycles. Immediately.
My cycles came back regularly immediately, Wow, because it was
working with insulin resistance and getting my body to use
the insulin that it has.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Fascinating.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and so working with pcos like eating. A lot
of dieticians are covered through insurance, so there's a lot
of things you can do with that. Finally got regular cycles,
had seven in a row, and so past January, I
just decided I was going to fast because I felt
really overwhelmed with fertility options.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Honestly, now at this point, as you're getting your cycles back,
are you still are you thinking, well, we can do
this naturally.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You just didn't. You were just like, I don't know
how kind of okay.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, we had never prevented, but I had never been obulating. Yeah,
I wasn't obulating. Yeah, So I thought, you know, I
have a lot of friends doing IBF, IUI adoption. I mean,
there's so many options, and you can go full like
clinical like all the way there with IBF, or you
can go very holistic with a lot of herbs and
a lot of stuff, and I was like, I don't
(07:37):
know what to do. So I fasted in January a
few lunches a week, just to pray and ask God
to help me understand my body and to know what
to do next, because it's overwhelming and you don't want
to make you know, it's like a very personal decision.
And thankfully, my husband's been supportive, like he's like, whatever
you want to do, I'll do type of thing, which
(07:57):
is helpful, and also like yeah, do you have an
pay Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Can't you help you? It seems like a lot of weight. Yeah,
you're carrying the weight, and well I think that's just well,
first of all, that's his motherhood.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I was gonna say, yeah, well, I think that's how
it just keeps going.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But a common misconception is that like, I don't know, Okay,
that's a whole other topic.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah keep going. Yeah, yeah, we'll get there. But yeah,
he's been very supportive. That's not any of this on him.
But yeah, so so through this whole thing, I just thought,
I don't know, I just have not had peace about
the IVF journey. So I think I was really struggling
with that and obviously there there's a lot of things
going on with that politically, like there's just a lot
(08:36):
of things weaponized towards women in general. So I was like, God,
I need your help. February rolls around and I was
having all these symptoms but no period, and I was like, hey, God,
we just talked about this for like a month straight,
so you want to like let me know what's going on, okay, And.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I like I got more tying and you talk.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And I was like, Lord, we literally just been talking
about this all right, Okay. Yeah. I was just kind
of like it was just so it just shows like
how feeble and like small minded we are towards God
because I literally spent a month asking he answered, but
I didn't even know he had answered, because I just
wouldn't take a pregnancy test because I didn't think that
(09:16):
was possible. Yeah, So when a couple of weeks I
took a test hindsight, it was positive, but I didn't
even see that it was positive. I was like, okay,
and throw it away.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I just I don't know what I was expecting. I
was like, looking, it said two lines, Yeah, that's what
the one line's there but then the second line showed
up in the other place. But I was thinking it
would be like really right, I don't know. I just
my body, my brain was not ready to receive.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
You were like, I'm definitely, It's like I'm not yea. Meanwhile,
when I was like trying to get pregnant a million
times all the time for the last.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Five years, I would like start.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Seeing a double life.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah I did, and there wouldn't be
one there. I'd be like, hold on, hold up in
this light, maybe like that's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
How like psychotic. I You're like, that's a lie, but whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know because I'd
never been looking for it and like expected it. I
don't know, excuse me. And so another week went by,
you know, those simpons were put on me, Oh my god,
and I went on a walk with some friends and
they're like, you just seed to take another test. I
was like, no, already you talk about I was negative.
It wasn't it was just I didn't know. So I
went home, took a test and get the word no,
(10:21):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Pregnant or not.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Pregnant, And I said, I mean immediately it was like
one drop.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I said, oh, and you're like, I'm definitely further along
than than I thought because it picked up quick.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And so you know, no cute video of that moment
because I was butt naked about to get in the shower.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
We need to go back to just that topic of
videos of moments.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yes, well that's put it in. Put it in
my back pocket, backpocket, because.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I really it's fun. I have to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So I was like, okay, cool. And then I didn't
tell anyone for four days because my husband was going
through something pretty big in his life. He was about
ready to leave for an international trip till lead a
conference down in Honduras, and I was like, I don't
need to tell him this before he goes. I'll have graat.
I just didn't want to, like, you know, just your
self control.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It was me and God, We're giggling.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We were laughing. I have zero self in drow like
I'll eat something bad for latch. I'll be like, okay,
I was gonna tell you that's what I am. Is
like within five minutes to Michael, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It felt it just felt like a fun thing, like
oh yeah, we did just talk about this. Yeah, for
a long time god, and now we're talking about it together.
But his health stuff ramped up. He ended up not
going on the trip, which was really sad, and he was,
you know, dealing with a lot of mental health stuff,
physical health stuff. And so so five am Monday morning,
you know, we just get back from dropping everyone else
(11:42):
off off the airport, and I'm like, well, I should
probably tell him now, because.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, they can feel around.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So I just had the you know, had the test
in my pocket. He goes, he's like standing there in
his underwear and he's like, I think I'm gonna take
this medicine, which was basically like an oxy like you
would knock him out. I was like, oh, I can
tell him. He's like hi, and so so then he goes,
I should probably I just need it to happen. I'll
take medicine later. I said, I think that's a great idea, honey.
(12:10):
So he puts pants on, thank god, because I wanted
to take a video, yeah, which we'll get to the
video thing. Yeah. So I'm like, honey, this has been
a crazy day. And we're standing in the bathroom and
I'm fully dressed, he's fully in pajamas. I'm campt and
I was like, let's just take a photo to remember
this moment. God's gonna do something with this moment. He's like,
you're right, it's gonna be fine because he was feeling
(12:31):
really bad. So I hit video and photo and you
gotta tell you something. I thought I was gonna have
a week to prepare something cute for you, but you
just threw me off a little bit. And he's like,
what I said, I pulled the test out this man.
He was so shocked in the cutest way. But then
typical type a you know one on the Enneagram. What
are your symptoms? How far along you? What are you feeling?
(12:53):
He told, who knows what? Well? What else? What's going
on in your body? Do you know how far along
you are? Have you told been to the door? I
was like, hey, this is happening and he was like,
oh my god, this is crazy. And then just like
you know, so that's so so sweet. But yeah, So
then I went to Lifeline Praccy Center because they had
the multiple times yeah, and they're like, yeah, you're eight
(13:15):
and a half weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I said, eh, you're like past your first Ultra South.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean I think it was eight weeks and
six days, like it was basically nine weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, so you saw the heartbeat and yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, And then I went to South Korea two weeks later.
I was like, can I go on this trip? And
they were like, yeah, as long as you're feeling good.
I was like, I feel fine.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So it was kind of a crazy did you have
symptoms in South Korea?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I was just so tired. I napped everywhere. I napped
in temples, I napped in a village, I napped in
seven eleven's nice airport, a lot of bathrooms. You know,
you sit down and it's over.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's the tiredness in the first trimesteries unreal.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah. I was sad because I couldn't need any of
the raw stuff. Yeah, I hate it enough. Yeah you're fine.
So yeah that's how that happen, I know.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
And you find out what it is soon.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, in a couple of weeks. And how are you
feeling now? Great? Just a little tired, but really great.
I'm ready to rip my entire house support and throw
everything away. It's just not necessary.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, purge and then nest, and you've got the perfect
house for a little family.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know, we need to bring that family in there.
I know, just been waiting on them to show up.
That's been that journey and we're still I was saying
in the middle of it, you know, I'm not I'm
almost halfway there.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, You're gonna be such a good mom.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Thank you. Yeah, that's been something that's been really sweet.
I think the last three years. I've been in photography
as my full time job for fourteen years. By the
last three or four years, every time I do a
family session, whoever it is says do you have any kids,
And I'm like, no, not yet. We're praying for them,
and they say, You're.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Gonna be the best mom you really are.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And I just feel like God has been like speaking
that over me through other people to reassure me, right,
because I've never seen myself as a mom. I've seen
myself like as a grandmother, but I've never seen my
mom as a mom. I've always wanted to be grandmama,
like I've all always wanted to be the crazy grandma
with all the stories, you know. And so I think
it's you know, society can make you be fearful of motherhood. Yeah,
(15:08):
but then when you really think about what it is
and the privilege it is, you know, definitely when.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
You were doing our photos, and so like when Summer
did our photos, y'all, there were two family units. I
still call us the kids. So it was a family
that I grew up with my whole life. We did
like trips and holidays and everything together. Me and the
of us in friends in kindergarten and so so my
parents are friends with their parents. They're the parents, and
(15:37):
then we're the kids.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now the kids have kids.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And now the kids have kids, and so there's two
on our side too, or sorry, three grandkids on our side,
three grandkids on their sides. So there are eighteen people
that Summer I was having to rally together to get photos,
and you handled it like a champ, of course, like
it was chaos, but the monkey move was so good.
She'd be like, well, yeah, and my son was being
(16:01):
a butt, you know, he doesn't like photos, he hates pictures.
But also he was like it was six six o'clock.
We've been like at the beach all day. He's cranking,
no naps, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Summer pulls out this trick of like there's monky in
my camera and you're like, why are you're taking photos?
Like simultanously taking these like stunning family photos while.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Just full monkey, like straight out being a monkey. I
would do it in a mic, and it's gonna be
way too long.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It was amazing though, But you really do have such
a nurturing anxiety you and it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Say, I'm excited and I've been you know, I've been
doing so much ministry and counseling, and you'll work with
kids like every day, and so I feel equipped in
that way. But also I'm just like whatever, Lord, whatever
you do, I'm ready for it. Yeah, it is, and
so we'll see, it's gonna be exciting.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
It's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be amazing. Yeah,
So nothing changes you, like parenthead in the best and
hardest way.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Of course. Yeah. Like it's yeah, because marriage is very defining.
You know, you really realize like, wow, I'm I'm selfish
and now I'm holding up someone else and holding me
up and it's a new level of vulnerability. But even
just in this process of being pregnant, I see already
like how God is going to use this to show
me more size of myself that need refinement and that
(17:21):
need him more in ways that Ryan and I can
communicate better and trust each other even more. So Yeah, yeah,
it's been sweet already to see that, and I know
it will continue me of course, yeah every day and
then just amazing You're like, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I've conquered that sin like mine's the rage for me,
Like I will get like rage feelings.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I felt rage, so that's probably gonna pop back up.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And it's like a lot to do with stress and
just like constantly being go, go, go go, and then
too like I'm I'm postpardoned stills the like hormones are
crazy hormones, and I'll be like I have rage, like
I want.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
To yell at these little cute angel baby angels.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I want to yell at them.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, And that's been something where I have to literally
pause and in my head, I just say, Jesus, make
me more like you, make me more like you. That's
something i'd go to line, make me more like you.
That's because all I want to do is scream.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh yeah, I'll keep you posting on that. Yeah, you
don't probably be at least a year.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I remember my friend Parker who's been on the podcast.
She was like, when I was pregnant with William I
was about to pop, and she was like, Okay, so
when he's here and you want to throw him across
the room, give me a call and we'll talk it through.
And I was like, this girl's insane. I want to
throw my baby. And then I was like, oh, I
want to throw this day, like not him, but like
(18:36):
you're just like so stressed and whatever. It's a lot,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So good really selling it really, it's great.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
The beast thing ever. Can we go back to videos?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes, back pocket videos of moments?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And I'm really sorry if I'm gonna if I offend
some of you listeners, because you might be these people.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Not sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I have a really I get a really like awkward
feeling when I want videos of like people taking pregnancy
tests or taking doing something in the mirror. Yeah, and
then they're crying on camera. Like something about the crying
on camera makes me feel like I should not be watching.
(19:13):
It's like I get still so intimate, too intimate.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, that's all of social media is too intimate.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It gets so awkward. And then if you start to
question like people's authenticity because like there are people who
can like turn it on and cry for a camera
and I'm like, well I.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Could, I could remake my video right now I'm pregnant
and y'all would not know. But there's no way I'm
going to do that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But people do that, no, I know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But then our friends, some of our friends don't do that,
and we don't know. We're never gonna ask to like
we do that.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah yeah yeah, So then I start like judging people.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, so just don't watch them. I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I like, I have to keep sliding, swiping, flighting and swiping.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean, y'all would have the video of me finding
out I was pregnant would be absolutely nothing. First of all,
but naked in the bathrooms not It's just not a
vibe for me to.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Go viral low.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Second of all, I didn't really say anything. I just
looked at it and I said, wow, God, this is
going to be fun now.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
See. I love when people video those moments. I just
get awkward when it's on social media and I'm watching
it and they're crying in the camera. It's only the crime.
I'm like, I don't feel like I should be watching this.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, I went So I went to South Korea shortly
after I was pregnant. Casual fortunate hour flight. Literally I
almost died putting those compressions ofts on, let me tell you.
And I was like, Okay, Asian culture in general, they
love Americans and they love like the social media like
going viral thing, like they're all about it. And so
I knew I could video things in South Korea that
(20:39):
I wouldn't in America. Yeah, like I was in seven
eleven taking videos. I would never put take my phone
out in a gas station here. Yeah. Ever, yeah, for
all security reasons, but like, I just want it, and
I just had to lean into the fact of like
I'm taking videos in myself in public and it's fine.
It almost killed me to take that many videos in public.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I I were, you exhausted.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I just don't know how how people get on camera
all the time, all the time, and yeah, I just
I can't.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like, you know, what else is really just like unfathomable
to think about doing is because the new popular thing
on TikTok or reels maybe is a day of the
life or a morning in my life.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Or whatever I want to I mean, maybe you do
tell me.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I don't think people want to see a morning in
my life. But I know that you got up and
you set the camera up over there so that you
could fake wake up, because they do.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The wake up, and y'all aren't going to see me
get out of my bed. They do my whole butt.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
They do the wake up like they'll be like in bed,
their eyes are closed. They set up a camera. You
you didn't fall back asleep. No, you're acting it out.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And it's cute because you're getting to watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But I watched them, y'all. I'm sucked in. But then
I keep thinking, like, wow, you really had to Like
one person put up a camera in like their mudroom
or whatever where they're coming from their garage and like
went back out to the garage and came back in.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, that's all it is. I mean everything. If you're
in the grocery store, they set it up, come back
around the corner, you know, set it up at the
car all the way. How much time that takes. It's
not for me, but somebody'll crush it. Good for you,
Good for you, because all I want in life is
to be famous.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You don't, well, you know I want to be a
reality you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Know me too, And that that's actually speaking of reality TV.
That's yes, that is how I've told a few people
that I'm pregnant because there's a reality show that I
have been prepping to apply for. So I called some
friends and I was like, I got to tell you something.
My application to Survivor is delayed. And they're like why.
I was like, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It was so good. Well, that's what I was gonna say,
is that I really want to be that. I want
to be favorite. I just want to I want to
do Big Brother. Yeah, for sure. I just want to
be like on a reality TV show. Well, the second
thing that's closest to that that is probably possible is
like a TikTok page or like viral. I can't go
viral because I am so lazy. I will not take
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the time to set up that camera.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, you don't have to have an assistant. I'm broke,
and you know what, I can't even get it. I mean,
we could work something out. We could.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What are you gonna say, Oh, Survivor, Survivor.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That was the other thing I want. That was the
only other thing I want to talk about, Pagan Seat
and Survivor, and then anything else we talked about was okay.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So spoiler alert is the finale this week.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
It's tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Okay, the finally, finally when this comes out, the family
will come out tonight. I we are on last week's
episode still okay. So we finished the one where spoiler alert, pause,
turn it off? Do what do you need to do
if you're watching where Mary gets lettered off? Which was
so annoying?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Was it not?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
If you have any chance at all to take Joe
out it, God literally gave it to you by taking
the immunity away.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
From him and he almost won im munich I know,
and then Joe Jeff was like, oh no, just caning.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And God's like, here you go, here you go.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But now at this point, I want Joe to win.
At this point, I'm like, he deserves to win me too. Yeah.
This season, though, has been really fun. It has been
a great season of Survivor. Yeah, the last five episodes
have slowed down because this one alliance is really paling
around and they're not making moves. And every episode they say,
I think it's time to make a move, and then they don't.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
They don't make time to make a move, and they
don't and they've lost their chance. Yeah, they have, because
now they don't have enough numbers on the opposing side
to go after a big shot.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, and even if they try to get someone to flip,
it's now that's gonna hurt Jurey management and all the things.
So yeah, it's a mess. It's a mess. It's good TV.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's good TV.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I think that I love this cast so much, and
I think the problem is they love each other too
much to backstat.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So you saw Mary get vrote it out. Yeah, you
saw what David did, god.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Bliss, that was like I felt cringe.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
No, I felt second, third, fourth, fifth.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I don't think I should be watching them.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, I literally got to turn off. Guys, I don't
know if you don't watch your viory, what are you doing? Yeah,
season forty eight, it's been on for twenty years. Twenty more. Yeah,
it's been twenty more, twenty four, it's been on since
two thousand and one. Right, yeah, every episode it's funny.
Dream to be on there. One day you will be
by the way, yeah, for sure. And this guy he's
jacked and he is a little you know, just in
(25:10):
his own world. He's in meathead. He's like he's a
stunt double. He's a stun double.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
For his actual job. He literally is that guy you
see it Goles Jim who like looks at himself in
the mirror while he pumps yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And he knows he's hot and like buff and so
he just the every And so when you get voted
out once, there's a certain part of the I don't
need to explain the entire survivor's situation here, but there's
a certain part in the show. You get voted out,
you sit on a jury, and what you're doing as
a jury member is you're prepping to vote for who
you want to win a million dollars. So when you
(25:41):
sit on the jury, you're not allowed to talk, you're
not allowed to react. This dude, every single since he's
been voted off, he comes in every single time with
the tightest tank top, which is just like, what are
you doing jeans flip flops? Okay, I'm already out, And
then he sits there with a duck face. He literally
is sucking his cheeks in making a like Zold so
(26:02):
dramatic the entire time, trying to intimidate them. And Mary
gets off, which is one of his people, and.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He's only people, yeah, like true people.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He stood up you're not you can't stand up. You're
not supposed to move. And he stood there like a bodyguard.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
He literally had his hands. If you're watching on YouTube,
I'm gonna stand up. He sat up and he has
he says, gonna be crossps. Sorry, hands are right here,
and he's just watching like, yeah, hands up for and
the most awkward amount of time, probably a good three
and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
At least at least, and I said, okay, I mean again,
great TV.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Phenomenal television. And but Mary didn't even acknowledge it. But
she was like, this guy is so weird. And Shaheen
could not stop lapping and star in the back.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I didn't see stars. Oh, you got to rewatch the
clip what she did. She's like trying to hold her breath.
It's great.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Oh it's so cringe worthy. So, so who do you
think is gonna win?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, you haven't seen the last episode, So with keeping
the person that got voted off in the running without
telling you, I think that it could be Kyle or
Shaheim if they play it right, or it'll be Joe.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Here's the deal. If Kyle would have made that move
with Camilla last episode, he would have won. Yeah, oh yeah,
because he did have a social a major social game,
and like that's great for Jerry because he had all
the other team or the other Alliance members on his
team too.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So I don't know, but he was too. He was too.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Like I told him a story that Survivor, Honey, that's
a whole game. It is a literal game, which is
why I want to go.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I got so many stories. You have so many stories
and people.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You have such a good social game, and you're strong,
and are you going to puzzles? Yeah? Yeah, she could
do a puzzle. I could do a puzzle. I would
literally Day one. Remember season two, last season or two
seasons ago when those two people dropped off Day one
because one got anxiety and one missed her cigarette.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
People, when people quit Survivor, I'm like, you're on a
do not fly list with me. I'm never looking at
your social media. I literally have you blocked on any
Google alrd. I don't ever want to see your face again.
You just got on the most exclusive TV show of
all time.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Day one went home because she missed her nicotine gum.
Do you remember that? Yes, the nicotine gum got me
so good. But that's kind of me like night one
of sleeping. I'm not on nicotine. It's like, are you
but night one of no sleep? I'd be like, I
don't know if you knew this.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
He's so tired sleep and you would have your kids' I.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Don't know, you know, I still sleep. I have to.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I have to.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I gotta go on Big So the thing about Big
Brother is it's basically the same exact concept as Survivor,
except you do have food, and it's one hundred days
and you're in a house. And you're in a house
so you get to like sleep in a bed and whatever.
But you and you have food and all that. But
Survivor's only twenty six days. The torture of Big Brother
is you're off society for one hundred days. You make
(28:48):
it all the way. I remember one season someone was like,
we don't even know who's running for president.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, like that is a queen died and the queen died.
Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yes, I've been watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Have you learned anything that maybe I don't want to
be a reality TV star, That's what I'm saying, but
that I don't want to do that kind of reality TV.
I want to do the game.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Here's what you're gonna do. Okay, before you really want
to be a TV host, I'm gonna say it, before
you get on television, whatever you're applying for, you need
to have your profile stacked with things that people can buy,
like this e book, this thing, this course, march merch,
things for people to sign up for. So when you
do go on the show and people are checking you out,
they can just put the boom and it's already ready. Yeah,
(29:32):
the viral is already starting the virals. You don't have
to wait till you get back.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need you an assistant to run
my page while I'm gone, because there's people who have
people who.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Girl, if you go on a show, you let me know.
I'll it every hour. Okay, I'll just take a little
percentage of the merch you sell. It'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Okay. One more thing about Survivor. Eva cannot watch that
girl eat on another reward. They'll the way that woman
eats it is like she uses no hands and just
murdered a lion in the jungle and rips into it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Give me twilight. There's yes, literally, vampire. No, it's like
she's the Bowery of Deer, back to the Deer.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
She's in all of her face. She goes on, she's
never been not been on a reward, I know, for food,
And then she had the nerve and last night's episode
or last week's episode of the week four, because we've
been watching the back to back gra on vacation to say,
I'm so hungry, i gotta go on this reward.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You were on a reward yesterday. Well, you're gonna freak
out when I tell you this. So there's a there's
an account that posts deleted interviews and things. It's called
All Winners Survivor. I'm that's right. Check it out. There's
a video of her talking about how she's never felt
this week in her life. She's she's been in after
your whole life. Yeah, she's actually having a little bit
of like body dysmorphia stuff because she's losing her muscle
(30:52):
and so she's freaking out. And so you only saw
the clip of her saying I'm so hungry, I'm freaking out.
She had a whole thirty minute interview about.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
See, they need to show that it's going to make
us understand that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I know, I know but yeah, she's she's very interesting.
I'm glad that she's been on there. It's been a
great storyline, it's been a great awareness.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I love her as a person. I can't watch her eat.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
No, I can't want you to.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I cannot watch her eat. At that moment where she
cried or was she like froze during the competition and
then Joe like came over and gave her a hug.
I've never cried like that. Oh and Jeff, Jeff cried,
Michael's weeping.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
We're alway were I was trying to around. Yeah, so
she won't win. No, she hadn't done anything all.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
She is loyal, loyal to fall almost it's kind of
ruining her game. And she's just Joe's sidekick.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think she's thought through winning. She just wants
to get stand. Yeah. So, yeah, great season. I can't
wait to see who wins tomorrow tonight tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Oh so don't text me because we won't go to
bed at a thirty.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, it's on from eight to eleven, so.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I know that's why we're not going to finish it
till like next week. Because these kids only a lot
of us like ten minutes of TV time. Well, let
me say, let me it's not the kid's fault. We're
grandparents to bed so early. We're very diligent about that.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, I won't text you.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Loss, is going on in your life, anything else you
want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, I could bring this up. I'm Ryan and I
are in a very weird stage where we're starting to
care for our parents medically while also trying to start
a family. It's like this weird middle ground. My dad
has MS and so he's been in and out of
the hospital a lot. And then Ryan's parents they're doing well,
there's some there's some mental illness there, but his and uncle,
(32:34):
who live a mile from his parents' house. His aunt
has late stage Parkinson's, so his dad is always there.
So we're we've been towing this line of like how
much of ourselves do we give to our parents versus
how much do we you know, have to get other
people to help. Yeah, and so it's been great because
our community has been very supportive. But yeah, it's like
a weird caregiver role that I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Anticipating prior to like entering the biggest care role.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, they're like, yeah, and our parents are older. I mean,
my parents waited twelve years to have me, and then
Ryan's Ryan's parents had two kids that are twenty and
seventeen years older than Ryan, and then he was the
reconciliation baby, so he was a fat surprise. So his
parents are late seventies, you know, which is most people's grandparents.
And so, yeah, that's been interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's tough. That's really really tough to navigate, Yeah, because
you want to be able to like show up when
they need you at all times. But then also you
have to kind of protect your peace a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, And thankfully they're so our parents. We have great
relationships with our parents. They're they're not expecting anything, yeah,
but you know, we love them and want the best.
And so a few months back, I like asked for
help on Instagram for the first time for my family,
and in like six hours we raised enough money to
build the ramp for my dad.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And was that the thing he did?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah? And I loved you with room, Yeah, I was
like it was. I think we raised like almost seven
thousand dollars. I was able to give a thousand dollars
cash to my mom to pay for his rehab stuff.
So it's just been a sweet yeah, but yeah, a
different stage. So yeah, if anyone else is going through that,
feel free to reach out to me and we can
we can talk about the caregiver of it all.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I think the key thing that you said there is
to like reach out to your community.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, absolutely, not to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
On social media, but like people want to be there
for people, but we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, and it doesn't, like you said, it doesn't have
to be on social media, Like if you're in a
small group or if you're in if you're a part
of Soul, or if you're part of a fitness group
or anything that you're a part of is your community. Yeah,
And so if you're able to just let people know
what you're going through, they want to help. It's like
you want to help anyone else, Yeah, going through something totally.
And it doesn't have to be monetarily. It can be time,
it can be food. Yeah, and a huge and huge
(34:40):
for my parents, people making like freezer meals, and so
I could take them and stock their freezer, so it
takes something else off my mom's plate.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And so yeah, so you can have your mom. You
took around a trip like a one time, lifetime trip.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, yeah, how is that? It was amazing. So she
turned seventy last year. She quit smoking for the first
time ever. She's so, she's just fifteen years old, and
I was like, girl, the lungs are clear, Let's go somewhere.
I was like, where do you want to go? She goes,
what about the Arc Kentucky? And I said, oh, dream bigger.
(35:12):
I was like, how about No, I mean we can,
but like I'm saying, anywhere, mom, Yeah, anywhere you want
to go, And so we bought that arc exact and
so we went to Iceland because it's my favorite place
and I'm very familiar with it, so it's easy to
get around. And I was able to use a companion
pass for her so we didn't have to pay for
(35:33):
her flight, which is great. Yeah, took her all around Iceland.
First time she's been out of the country since she
was three years old, first time she's been on a
flight in like twenty years. You know.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
She just like so overwhelmed with joy, which their fear
there too.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Uh. I don't think she was afraid because she was
with me and we're just down a clown.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
But it's sweet time for you to look back on one day.
But I'm so glad I got that trip well.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And I knew that Ryan and I really wanted to
start a family soon, so I didn't know how important
was that we went ahead did that. Yeah, And it
was while my dad was in between, you know, stages
of his disease, and he was not in the hospital
and he was doing really well. Yeah, very easy for
her to leave him for a week, right with someone
without Gilter. Yeah. Now, I don't know if she could
do it. But the other day we were talking and
(36:16):
I was like, I think it was actually before I
told her I was pregnant. This is a few months ago.
I said, where do you want to go next? Mom?
Like I was kind of just joking with her. She said,
We're going back to Iceland. I said, okay. So when
I found out I was pregnant, I was like, the
first place I want to go with this baby is Iceland.
So I think I should take Ryan and my mom
and the baby. Ty.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, that's you should while the baby's a baby, because
it's the easiest time to travel. Yeah, that's what I'm
thinking when they just sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, So I keep you posted on that fun but yeah,
I'm hoping. I'm hoping if everything's okay edically all the
things next summer to do that that'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wait, wait when do you do October?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Sometime in October?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
What a great month?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So I'm thinking such a good month because then you're like,
you know, home for the holidays and yeah, you know,
a doctor is calling me because I didn't show up
an appointment. I well, I forgot today.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Oh my gosh, honey, I want to log up anyway
to pick up my kids. But oh my gosh, I know.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
What a joy? Yes, perfect, Now you know what's going
on in my life night Now I know, and I
know it's one on yours because I asked you how
the photo shoot? Yeah, And that's all guys. So if
you want to travel DM me, you need to know
anything about Iceland. Holler if you have PCUS or podcast,
keep going on a fertility journey, happy to chat through it,
happy to connect you to the people that I trust.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And y'all, seriously, if you want to DM summer and
you never met her, she will respond.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, we ship chatting in the DM, and you, even
if you.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Don't know her, you do now follow her because she
has funny content.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, it's been sparse recently.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
There haven't There haven't been as many cones. I know
content I need.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I need to bring it back a little. I feel
like people don't want to see it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh I want to see it. Yeah, you need to
have like a cone themed first birthday for your baby.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well that I would like to have a cone themed
baby shower. It's like under construction. Wouldn't that be funny?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Who's turning your baby shower?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We'll talk about it afterwards, okay, And then the first
birthday of her child will be survivor named we survived
the first year clean? Yes for cocoa. You have to.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But we're not going to do games because I just
don't have the time. I was just gonna do buffs
and like tiki torches and like make it cute and fun.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Message. Let's talk because maybe I could run the games
for you when it's her.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Birthday, like next month, early in June. Girl, let me know, Okay,
that would be fun. Would you be, Like what would
you be, Jeff? Yeah, you'd have to be, Jeff. So
my best friend Taylor, you met her. She lives in Texas,
her husband and her arms as a survivor as well,
and every year for her birthday, her parents have a
lake house, and so they go to the lake and
(38:41):
they BUYE a bunch of friends and they literally have
survivor games and her husband is wt.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Him do it? He is Jeff? Is he coming now?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
He is Jeff? He's his name because his name is
Travis in real life. He calls himself tref and he
tries the character the entire weekend. Like he wears cargo shorts.
He wears the whole HALFE. He doesn't break character.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Her go to his birthday.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
So we tried to go last year, but I was
pregnant next year. This year, yeah, maybe think all right, listeners,
I love you guys so much. I'm gonna put all
of Summer's links in the sure nurch.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
At Summer Lambert photo.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That's the only link, and that's what you're gonna click,
and you're gonna follow her and you're gonna have a
great time. Yea, love you so much, Summer, Love you,
Love you so much, listeners. I don't know who's coming
next week. That's just how I live my life.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
See what's that? Maybe it'll be me again, I don't know,
might be Summer. You can seek a rout away before
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There's a lot of funny come out of this.
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Well yeah, now I'm not there, so all my followers
won't come by, they won't come talking.
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I thought to myself, Man, I missed podcasting. I should
ask Catherine if she wants to have a guest soon.
And so after the shoot has told her that, she
goes I don't have anybody next week when it comes by,
I was like, yeah, I'll be there. So here I am.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And that's how we plan here in the podcasting verse
universe pod verse.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Sometimes a solo episode is good, sometimes an interview is better.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, I just feel like, okay, So I've been podcasting
for a while now. This is my seventh season. And
when it was me and Chelsea, it was a lot
easier to get guessed because there's two of us, right,
and what our powers combined?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah? Two leads?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah at all time? Have we know different people? It
was a lot easier. And then when I was just
with one child and he was in daycare, it was
still easy because I could still work now with Cocoa.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Got two child I got too childs and no co hosts.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I got no co host so and I got no
daycare for the coco.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So that that girls two variables minus one lead equals
tougher equals really hard toughing it.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm doing it, and like I have finally let go
of the perfectionism in me of feeling like I need
to even show up every week. If there's a week
where I'm just I can't. I cannot make it happen.
So sorry to all two hundred of my listeners, I'm
not going to be here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Fine, Yeah, sorry for so yeah, so here, that's how
I got here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm really really glad because we haven't really caught up
in a minute, like a year more probably more. I
mean I feel like the last time we caught up
was probably been podcasted, and that was probably season five,
so I can listen.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, it was a good one.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Feel how are you?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm great? And lots of things. Eighteen weeks pregnant, so
we actually talked a little bit about that, I think
in season five, just I think it was faith over fear,
talking about yeah, not letting fear control you, and a
lot of stuff I've been working through in my body
journey was to get me to a place to where
I could have children, and so just to be in
(03:21):
the middle of that now is really special to be
able to talk about. And so, yeah, dealing with all
the fun things with pregnancy for me is just sleeping
a lot. Yeah, And so it sounds great.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So you want to go backwards, if you don't mind,
I should share a little bit about, uh, the process
it's took to get here.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah. So you know, I think we're all collectively on
the same page of understanding that healthcare is not great,
but it's just not especially women's healthcare. Yeah, and for
all of our friends that are doctors, nurses, pas, FNPs
all that, like, we love you. What's an F and
P Family nurse practitioner.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, love the title?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, my F and p F And it's kind of
like you're saying fan.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, that's I like it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I means it. My doctor right now is an
F and P. Anyways, we respect that profession, love it
all the things. Yes, all of our friends we love Okay,
but the system itself is broken, especially for women's because
most of the things tested to find out prognosis for
people is on men. So that's why when women come
(04:29):
with pain or when when women come with things, they
don't have the data. Not anyone's fault, it's just not
what people are trained in right now, right a lot
of people are going towards holistic medicine all the things. Okay,
So it took me a long time to trust doctors
because in twenty eighteen, I went to my obign for
a routine appointment and while I was in the appointment, Okay,
(04:51):
you know, I don't know how graph we want to get, but.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's pretty open, it's pretty vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, you open, you vulnerable. There's a spotlight on your
hu ha. And I was like expressing concerns about birth
control stuff and feeling like it wasn't helping my body,
and instead of them wanting to talk me through it,
they just said, yeah, we're just gonna put we can
put you on a wait list for gastric bypass if
you want, Like that was the answer for me straggling
with my weight. Yeah, so I said get out and
(05:16):
I never went back. So I didn't which you waited
for like five years. Don't argummend that I.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But also don't blame you like yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What Yeah, And I didn't tell anyone about that for
years because I felt so ashamed and just like I
felt trapped in my body. And so I think three
years ago is when I really started this journey of
like I must get to the root of this. There's
something going on, Like I work out all the time,
I eat pretty healthy, something's not correlating here right. Found
out I have a PCOS, which is polycystic ovarian syndrome.
(05:45):
A lot of different variations of it, excuse me, but
irregular cycles is a main factor or symptom. So working
on like eating right for my body type, working on
a positive mindset of my body, like a bunch of
that stuff was where I started. And then the past
(06:06):
year started working directly with a doctor that I trusted,
and she wanted me to try different medications for things,
and so I tried semi glue tide, which is kind
of like would go v eurozabac or something, but a
different dose of it for like pre diabetic reasons. Of course,
if you're diabetic, they'll give it to you. But if
you're pre diabetic, which is again a medical system little.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Bit, let's wait till you're broken. Soil we yea solve
the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And you know, to my surprise, it didn't really help
with weight loss, but it did help with my cycles. Immediately.
My cycles came back regularly immediately, Wow, because it was
working with insulin resistance and getting my body to use
the insulin that it has.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Fascinating.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and so working with pcos like eating. A lot
of dieticians are covered through insurance, so there's a lot
of things you can do with that. Finally got regular cycles,
had seven in a row, and so past January, I
just decided I was going to fast because I felt
really overwhelmed with fertility options.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Honestly, now at this point, as you're getting your cycles back,
are you still are you thinking, well, we can do
this naturally.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You just didn't. You were just like, I don't know
how kind of okay.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, we had never prevented, but I had never been obulating. Yeah,
I wasn't obulating. Yeah, So I thought, you know, I
have a lot of friends doing IBF, IUI adoption. I mean,
there's so many options, and you can go full like
clinical like all the way there with IBF, or you
can go very holistic with a lot of herbs and
a lot of stuff, and I was like, I don't
(07:37):
know what to do. So I fasted in January a
few lunches a week, just to pray and ask God
to help me understand my body and to know what
to do next, because it's overwhelming and you don't want
to make you know, it's like a very personal decision.
And thankfully, my husband's been supportive, like he's like, whatever
you want to do, I'll do type of thing, which
(07:57):
is helpful, and also like yeah, do you have an
pay Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Can't you help you? It seems like a lot of weight. Yeah,
you're carrying the weight, and well I think that's just well,
first of all, that's his motherhood.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I was gonna say, yeah, well, I think that's how
it just keeps going.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But a common misconception is that like, I don't know, Okay,
that's a whole other topic.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah keep going. Yeah, yeah, we'll get there. But yeah,
he's been very supportive. That's not any of this on him.
But yeah, so so through this whole thing, I just thought,
I don't know, I just have not had peace about
the IVF journey. So I think I was really struggling
with that and obviously there there's a lot of things
going on with that politically, like there's just a lot
(08:36):
of things weaponized towards women in general. So I was like, God,
I need your help. February rolls around and I was
having all these symptoms but no period, and I was like, hey, God,
we just talked about this for like a month straight,
so you want to like let me know what's going on, okay, And.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I like I got more tying and you talk.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And I was like, Lord, we literally just been talking
about this all right, Okay. Yeah. I was just kind
of like it was just so it just shows like
how feeble and like small minded we are towards God
because I literally spent a month asking he answered, but
I didn't even know he had answered, because I just
wouldn't take a pregnancy test because I didn't think that
(09:16):
was possible. Yeah, So when a couple of weeks I
took a test hindsight, it was positive, but I didn't
even see that it was positive. I was like, okay,
and throw it away.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I just I don't know what I was expecting. I
was like, looking, it said two lines, Yeah, that's what
the one line's there but then the second line showed
up in the other place. But I was thinking it
would be like really right, I don't know. I just
my body, my brain was not ready to receive.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
You were like, I'm definitely, It's like I'm not yea. Meanwhile,
when I was like trying to get pregnant a million
times all the time for the last.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Five years, I would like start.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Seeing a double life.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah I did, and there wouldn't be
one there. I'd be like, hold on, hold up in
this light, maybe like that's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
How like psychotic. I You're like, that's a lie, but whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know because I'd
never been looking for it and like expected it. I
don't know, excuse me. And so another week went by,
you know, those simpons were put on me, Oh my god,
and I went on a walk with some friends and
they're like, you just seed to take another test. I
was like, no, already you talk about I was negative.
It wasn't it was just I didn't know. So I
went home, took a test and get the word no,
(10:21):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Pregnant or not.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Pregnant, And I said, I mean immediately it was like
one drop.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I said, oh, and you're like, I'm definitely further along
than than I thought because it picked up quick.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And so you know, no cute video of that moment
because I was butt naked about to get in the shower.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
We need to go back to just that topic of
videos of moments.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yes, well that's put it in. Put it in
my back pocket, backpocket, because.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I really it's fun. I have to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So I was like, okay, cool. And then I didn't
tell anyone for four days because my husband was going
through something pretty big in his life. He was about
ready to leave for an international trip till lead a
conference down in Honduras, and I was like, I don't
need to tell him this before he goes. I'll have graat.
I just didn't want to, like, you know, just your
self control.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It was me and God, We're giggling.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We were laughing. I have zero self in drow like
I'll eat something bad for latch. I'll be like, okay,
I was gonna tell you that's what I am. Is
like within five minutes to Michael, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It felt it just felt like a fun thing, like
oh yeah, we did just talk about this. Yeah, for
a long time god, and now we're talking about it together.
But his health stuff ramped up. He ended up not
going on the trip, which was really sad, and he was,
you know, dealing with a lot of mental health stuff,
physical health stuff. And so so five am Monday morning,
you know, we just get back from dropping everyone else
(11:42):
off off the airport, and I'm like, well, I should
probably tell him now, because.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, they can feel around.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So I just had the you know, had the test
in my pocket. He goes, he's like standing there in
his underwear and he's like, I think I'm gonna take
this medicine, which was basically like an oxy like you
would knock him out. I was like, oh, I can
tell him. He's like hi, and so so then he goes,
I should probably I just need it to happen. I'll
take medicine later. I said, I think that's a great idea, honey.
(12:10):
So he puts pants on, thank god, because I wanted
to take a video, yeah, which we'll get to the
video thing. Yeah. So I'm like, honey, this has been
a crazy day. And we're standing in the bathroom and
I'm fully dressed, he's fully in pajamas. I'm campt and
I was like, let's just take a photo to remember
this moment. God's gonna do something with this moment. He's like,
you're right, it's gonna be fine because he was feeling
(12:31):
really bad. So I hit video and photo and you
gotta tell you something. I thought I was gonna have
a week to prepare something cute for you, but you
just threw me off a little bit. And he's like,
what I said, I pulled the test out this man.
He was so shocked in the cutest way. But then
typical type a you know one on the Enneagram. What
are your symptoms? How far along you? What are you feeling?
(12:53):
He told, who knows what? Well? What else? What's going
on in your body? Do you know how far along
you are? Have you told been to the door? I
was like, hey, this is happening and he was like,
oh my god, this is crazy. And then just like
you know, so that's so so sweet. But yeah, So
then I went to Lifeline Praccy Center because they had
the multiple times yeah, and they're like, yeah, you're eight
(13:15):
and a half weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I said, eh, you're like past your first Ultra South.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean I think it was eight weeks and
six days, like it was basically nine weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, so you saw the heartbeat and yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, And then I went to South Korea two weeks later.
I was like, can I go on this trip? And
they were like, yeah, as long as you're feeling good.
I was like, I feel fine.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So it was kind of a crazy did you have
symptoms in South Korea?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I was just so tired. I napped everywhere. I napped
in temples, I napped in a village, I napped in
seven eleven's nice airport, a lot of bathrooms. You know,
you sit down and it's over.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's the tiredness in the first trimesteries unreal.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah. I was sad because I couldn't need any of
the raw stuff. Yeah, I hate it enough. Yeah you're fine.
So yeah that's how that happen, I know.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
And you find out what it is soon.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, in a couple of weeks. And how are you
feeling now? Great? Just a little tired, but really great.
I'm ready to rip my entire house support and throw
everything away. It's just not necessary.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, purge and then nest, and you've got the perfect
house for a little family.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know, we need to bring that family in there.
I know, just been waiting on them to show up.
That's been that journey and we're still I was saying
in the middle of it, you know, I'm not I'm
almost halfway there.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, You're gonna be such a good mom.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Thank you. Yeah, that's been something that's been really sweet.
I think the last three years. I've been in photography
as my full time job for fourteen years. By the
last three or four years, every time I do a
family session, whoever it is says do you have any kids,
And I'm like, no, not yet. We're praying for them,
and they say, You're.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Gonna be the best mom you really are.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And I just feel like God has been like speaking
that over me through other people to reassure me, right,
because I've never seen myself as a mom. I've seen
myself like as a grandmother, but I've never seen my
mom as a mom. I've always wanted to be grandmama,
like I've all always wanted to be the crazy grandma
with all the stories, you know. And so I think
it's you know, society can make you be fearful of motherhood. Yeah,
(15:08):
but then when you really think about what it is
and the privilege it is, you know, definitely when.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
You were doing our photos, and so like when Summer
did our photos, y'all, there were two family units. I
still call us the kids. So it was a family
that I grew up with my whole life. We did
like trips and holidays and everything together. Me and the
of us in friends in kindergarten and so so my
parents are friends with their parents. They're the parents, and
(15:37):
then we're the kids.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now the kids have kids.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And now the kids have kids, and so there's two
on our side too, or sorry, three grandkids on our side,
three grandkids on their sides. So there are eighteen people
that Summer I was having to rally together to get photos,
and you handled it like a champ, of course, like
it was chaos, but the monkey move was so good.
She'd be like, well, yeah, and my son was being
(16:01):
a butt, you know, he doesn't like photos, he hates pictures.
But also he was like it was six six o'clock.
We've been like at the beach all day. He's cranking,
no naps, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Summer pulls out this trick of like there's monky in
my camera and you're like, why are you're taking photos?
Like simultanously taking these like stunning family photos while.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Just full monkey, like straight out being a monkey. I
would do it in a mic, and it's gonna be
way too long.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It was amazing though, But you really do have such
a nurturing anxiety you and it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Say, I'm excited and I've been you know, I've been
doing so much ministry and counseling, and you'll work with
kids like every day, and so I feel equipped in
that way. But also I'm just like whatever, Lord, whatever
you do, I'm ready for it. Yeah, it is, and
so we'll see, it's gonna be exciting.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
It's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be amazing. Yeah,
So nothing changes you, like parenthead in the best and
hardest way.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Of course. Yeah. Like it's yeah, because marriage is very defining.
You know, you really realize like, wow, I'm I'm selfish
and now I'm holding up someone else and holding me
up and it's a new level of vulnerability. But even
just in this process of being pregnant, I see already
like how God is going to use this to show
me more size of myself that need refinement and that
(17:21):
need him more in ways that Ryan and I can
communicate better and trust each other even more. So Yeah, yeah,
it's been sweet already to see that, and I know
it will continue me of course, yeah every day and
then just amazing You're like, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I've conquered that sin like mine's the rage for me,
Like I will get like rage feelings.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I felt rage, so that's probably gonna pop back up.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And it's like a lot to do with stress and
just like constantly being go, go, go go, and then
too like I'm I'm postpardoned stills the like hormones are
crazy hormones, and I'll be like I have rage, like
I want.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
To yell at these little cute angel baby angels.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I want to yell at them.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, And that's been something where I have to literally
pause and in my head, I just say, Jesus, make
me more like you, make me more like you. That's
something i'd go to line, make me more like you.
That's because all I want to do is scream.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh yeah, I'll keep you posting on that. Yeah, you
don't probably be at least a year.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I remember my friend Parker who's been on the podcast.
She was like, when I was pregnant with William I
was about to pop, and she was like, Okay, so
when he's here and you want to throw him across
the room, give me a call and we'll talk it through.
And I was like, this girl's insane. I want to
throw my baby. And then I was like, oh, I
want to throw this day, like not him, but like
(18:36):
you're just like so stressed and whatever. It's a lot,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So good really selling it really, it's great.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
The beast thing ever. Can we go back to videos?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes, back pocket videos of moments?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And I'm really sorry if I'm gonna if I offend
some of you listeners, because you might be these people.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Not sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I have a really I get a really like awkward
feeling when I want videos of like people taking pregnancy
tests or taking doing something in the mirror. Yeah, and
then they're crying on camera. Like something about the crying
on camera makes me feel like I should not be watching.
(19:13):
It's like I get still so intimate, too intimate.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, that's all of social media is too intimate.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It gets so awkward. And then if you start to
question like people's authenticity because like there are people who
can like turn it on and cry for a camera
and I'm like, well I.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Could, I could remake my video right now I'm pregnant
and y'all would not know. But there's no way I'm
going to do that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But people do that, no, I know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But then our friends, some of our friends don't do that,
and we don't know. We're never gonna ask to like
we do that.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah yeah yeah, So then I start like judging people.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, so just don't watch them. I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I like, I have to keep sliding, swiping, flighting and swiping.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean, y'all would have the video of me finding
out I was pregnant would be absolutely nothing. First of all,
but naked in the bathrooms not It's just not a
vibe for me to.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Go viral low.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Second of all, I didn't really say anything. I just
looked at it and I said, wow, God, this is
going to be fun now.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
See. I love when people video those moments. I just
get awkward when it's on social media and I'm watching
it and they're crying in the camera. It's only the crime.
I'm like, I don't feel like I should be watching this.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, I went So I went to South Korea shortly
after I was pregnant. Casual fortunate hour flight. Literally I
almost died putting those compressions ofts on, let me tell you.
And I was like, Okay, Asian culture in general, they
love Americans and they love like the social media like
going viral thing, like they're all about it. And so
I knew I could video things in South Korea that
(20:39):
I wouldn't in America. Yeah, like I was in seven
eleven taking videos. I would never put take my phone
out in a gas station here. Yeah. Ever, yeah, for
all security reasons, but like, I just want it, and
I just had to lean into the fact of like
I'm taking videos in myself in public and it's fine.
It almost killed me to take that many videos in public.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I I were, you exhausted.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I just don't know how how people get on camera
all the time, all the time, and yeah, I just
I can't.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like, you know, what else is really just like unfathomable
to think about doing is because the new popular thing
on TikTok or reels maybe is a day of the
life or a morning in my life.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Or whatever I want to I mean, maybe you do
tell me.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I don't think people want to see a morning in
my life. But I know that you got up and
you set the camera up over there so that you
could fake wake up, because they do.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The wake up, and y'all aren't going to see me
get out of my bed. They do my whole butt.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
They do the wake up like they'll be like in bed,
their eyes are closed. They set up a camera. You
you didn't fall back asleep. No, you're acting it out.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And it's cute because you're getting to watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But I watched them, y'all. I'm sucked in. But then
I keep thinking, like, wow, you really had to Like
one person put up a camera in like their mudroom
or whatever where they're coming from their garage and like
went back out to the garage and came back in.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, that's all it is. I mean everything. If you're
in the grocery store, they set it up, come back
around the corner, you know, set it up at the
car all the way. How much time that takes. It's
not for me, but somebody'll crush it. Good for you,
Good for you, because all I want in life is
to be famous.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You don't, well, you know I want to be a
reality you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Know me too, And that that's actually speaking of reality TV.
That's yes, that is how I've told a few people
that I'm pregnant because there's a reality show that I
have been prepping to apply for. So I called some
friends and I was like, I got to tell you something.
My application to Survivor is delayed. And they're like why.
I was like, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It was so good. Well, that's what I was gonna say,
is that I really want to be that. I want
to be favorite. I just want to I want to
do Big Brother. Yeah, for sure. I just want to
be like on a reality TV show. Well, the second
thing that's closest to that that is probably possible is
like a TikTok page or like viral. I can't go
viral because I am so lazy. I will not take
(22:53):
the time to set up that camera.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, you don't have to have an assistant. I'm broke,
and you know what, I can't even get it. I mean,
we could work something out. We could.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What are you gonna say, Oh, Survivor, Survivor.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That was the other thing I want. That was the
only other thing I want to talk about, Pagan Seat
and Survivor, and then anything else we talked about was okay.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So spoiler alert is the finale this week.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
It's tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Okay, the finally, finally when this comes out, the family
will come out tonight. I we are on last week's
episode still okay. So we finished the one where spoiler alert, pause,
turn it off? Do what do you need to do
if you're watching where Mary gets lettered off? Which was
so annoying?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Was it not?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
If you have any chance at all to take Joe
out it, God literally gave it to you by taking
the immunity away.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
From him and he almost won im munich I know,
and then Joe Jeff was like, oh no, just caning.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And God's like, here you go, here you go.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But now at this point, I want Joe to win.
At this point, I'm like, he deserves to win me too. Yeah.
This season, though, has been really fun. It has been
a great season of Survivor. Yeah, the last five episodes
have slowed down because this one alliance is really paling
around and they're not making moves. And every episode they say,
I think it's time to make a move, and then they don't.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
They don't make time to make a move, and they
don't and they've lost their chance. Yeah, they have, because
now they don't have enough numbers on the opposing side
to go after a big shot.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, and even if they try to get someone to flip,
it's now that's gonna hurt Jurey management and all the things.
So yeah, it's a mess. It's a mess. It's good TV.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's good TV.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I think that I love this cast so much, and
I think the problem is they love each other too
much to backstat.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So you saw Mary get vrote it out. Yeah, you
saw what David did, god.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Bliss, that was like I felt cringe.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
No, I felt second, third, fourth, fifth.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I don't think I should be watching them.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, I literally got to turn off. Guys, I don't
know if you don't watch your viory, what are you doing? Yeah,
season forty eight, it's been on for twenty years. Twenty more. Yeah,
it's been twenty more, twenty four, it's been on since
two thousand and one. Right, yeah, every episode it's funny.
Dream to be on there. One day you will be
by the way, yeah, for sure. And this guy he's
jacked and he is a little you know, just in
(25:10):
his own world. He's in meathead. He's like he's a
stunt double. He's a stun double.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
For his actual job. He literally is that guy you
see it Goles Jim who like looks at himself in
the mirror while he pumps yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And he knows he's hot and like buff and so
he just the every And so when you get voted
out once, there's a certain part of the I don't
need to explain the entire survivor's situation here, but there's
a certain part in the show. You get voted out,
you sit on a jury, and what you're doing as
a jury member is you're prepping to vote for who
you want to win a million dollars. So when you
(25:41):
sit on the jury, you're not allowed to talk, you're
not allowed to react. This dude, every single since he's
been voted off, he comes in every single time with
the tightest tank top, which is just like, what are
you doing jeans flip flops? Okay, I'm already out, And
then he sits there with a duck face. He literally
is sucking his cheeks in making a like Zold so
(26:02):
dramatic the entire time, trying to intimidate them. And Mary
gets off, which is one of his people, and.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He's only people, yeah, like true people.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He stood up you're not you can't stand up. You're
not supposed to move. And he stood there like a bodyguard.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
He literally had his hands. If you're watching on YouTube,
I'm gonna stand up. He sat up and he has
he says, gonna be crossps. Sorry, hands are right here,
and he's just watching like, yeah, hands up for and
the most awkward amount of time, probably a good three
and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
At least at least, and I said, okay, I mean again,
great TV.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Phenomenal television. And but Mary didn't even acknowledge it. But
she was like, this guy is so weird. And Shaheen
could not stop lapping and star in the back.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I didn't see stars. Oh, you got to rewatch the
clip what she did. She's like trying to hold her breath.
It's great.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Oh it's so cringe worthy. So, so who do you
think is gonna win?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, you haven't seen the last episode, So with keeping
the person that got voted off in the running without
telling you, I think that it could be Kyle or
Shaheim if they play it right, or it'll be Joe.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Here's the deal. If Kyle would have made that move
with Camilla last episode, he would have won. Yeah, oh yeah,
because he did have a social a major social game,
and like that's great for Jerry because he had all
the other team or the other Alliance members on his
team too.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So I don't know, but he was too. He was too.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Like I told him a story that Survivor, Honey, that's
a whole game. It is a literal game, which is
why I want to go.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I got so many stories. You have so many stories
and people.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You have such a good social game, and you're strong,
and are you going to puzzles? Yeah? Yeah, she could
do a puzzle. I could do a puzzle. I would
literally Day one. Remember season two, last season or two
seasons ago when those two people dropped off Day one
because one got anxiety and one missed her cigarette.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
People, when people quit Survivor, I'm like, you're on a
do not fly list with me. I'm never looking at
your social media. I literally have you blocked on any
Google alrd. I don't ever want to see your face again.
You just got on the most exclusive TV show of
all time.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Day one went home because she missed her nicotine gum.
Do you remember that? Yes, the nicotine gum got me
so good. But that's kind of me like night one
of sleeping. I'm not on nicotine. It's like, are you
but night one of no sleep? I'd be like, I
don't know if you knew this.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
He's so tired sleep and you would have your kids' I.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Don't know, you know, I still sleep. I have to.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I have to.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I gotta go on Big So the thing about Big
Brother is it's basically the same exact concept as Survivor,
except you do have food, and it's one hundred days
and you're in a house. And you're in a house
so you get to like sleep in a bed and whatever.
But you and you have food and all that. But
Survivor's only twenty six days. The torture of Big Brother
is you're off society for one hundred days. You make
(28:48):
it all the way. I remember one season someone was like,
we don't even know who's running for president.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, like that is a queen died and the queen died.
Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yes, I've been watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Have you learned anything that maybe I don't want to
be a reality TV star, That's what I'm saying, but
that I don't want to do that kind of reality TV.
I want to do the game.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Here's what you're gonna do. Okay, before you really want
to be a TV host, I'm gonna say it, before
you get on television, whatever you're applying for, you need
to have your profile stacked with things that people can buy,
like this e book, this thing, this course, march merch,
things for people to sign up for. So when you
do go on the show and people are checking you out,
they can just put the boom and it's already ready. Yeah,
(29:32):
the viral is already starting the virals. You don't have
to wait till you get back.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need you an assistant to run
my page while I'm gone, because there's people who have
people who.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Girl, if you go on a show, you let me know.
I'll it every hour. Okay, I'll just take a little
percentage of the merch you sell. It'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Okay. One more thing about Survivor. Eva cannot watch that
girl eat on another reward. They'll the way that woman
eats it is like she uses no hands and just
murdered a lion in the jungle and rips into it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Give me twilight. There's yes, literally, vampire. No, it's like
she's the Bowery of Deer, back to the Deer.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
She's in all of her face. She goes on, she's
never been not been on a reward, I know, for food,
And then she had the nerve and last night's episode
or last week's episode of the week four, because we've
been watching the back to back gra on vacation to say,
I'm so hungry, i gotta go on this reward.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You were on a reward yesterday. Well, you're gonna freak
out when I tell you this. So there's a there's
an account that posts deleted interviews and things. It's called
All Winners Survivor. I'm that's right. Check it out. There's
a video of her talking about how she's never felt
this week in her life. She's she's been in after
your whole life. Yeah, she's actually having a little bit
of like body dysmorphia stuff because she's losing her muscle
(30:52):
and so she's freaking out. And so you only saw
the clip of her saying I'm so hungry, I'm freaking out.
She had a whole thirty minute interview about.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
See, they need to show that it's going to make
us understand that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I know, I know but yeah, she's she's very interesting.
I'm glad that she's been on there. It's been a
great storyline, it's been a great awareness.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I love her as a person. I can't watch her eat.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
No, I can't want you to.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I cannot watch her eat. At that moment where she
cried or was she like froze during the competition and
then Joe like came over and gave her a hug.
I've never cried like that. Oh and Jeff, Jeff cried,
Michael's weeping.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
We're alway were I was trying to around. Yeah, so
she won't win. No, she hadn't done anything all.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
She is loyal, loyal to fall almost it's kind of
ruining her game. And she's just Joe's sidekick.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think she's thought through winning. She just wants
to get stand. Yeah. So, yeah, great season. I can't
wait to see who wins tomorrow tonight tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Oh so don't text me because we won't go to
bed at a thirty.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, it's on from eight to eleven, so.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I know that's why we're not going to finish it
till like next week. Because these kids only a lot
of us like ten minutes of TV time. Well, let
me say, let me it's not the kid's fault. We're
grandparents to bed so early. We're very diligent about that.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, I won't text you.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Loss, is going on in your life, anything else you
want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, I could bring this up. I'm Ryan and I
are in a very weird stage where we're starting to
care for our parents medically while also trying to start
a family. It's like this weird middle ground. My dad
has MS and so he's been in and out of
the hospital a lot. And then Ryan's parents they're doing well,
there's some there's some mental illness there, but his and uncle,
(32:34):
who live a mile from his parents' house. His aunt
has late stage Parkinson's, so his dad is always there.
So we're we've been towing this line of like how
much of ourselves do we give to our parents versus
how much do we you know, have to get other
people to help. Yeah, and so it's been great because
our community has been very supportive. But yeah, it's like
a weird caregiver role that I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Anticipating prior to like entering the biggest care role.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, they're like, yeah, and our parents are older. I mean,
my parents waited twelve years to have me, and then
Ryan's Ryan's parents had two kids that are twenty and
seventeen years older than Ryan, and then he was the
reconciliation baby, so he was a fat surprise. So his
parents are late seventies, you know, which is most people's grandparents.
And so, yeah, that's been interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's tough. That's really really tough to navigate, Yeah, because
you want to be able to like show up when
they need you at all times. But then also you
have to kind of protect your peace a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, And thankfully they're so our parents. We have great
relationships with our parents. They're they're not expecting anything, yeah,
but you know, we love them and want the best.
And so a few months back, I like asked for
help on Instagram for the first time for my family,
and in like six hours we raised enough money to
build the ramp for my dad.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And was that the thing he did?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah? And I loved you with room, Yeah, I was
like it was. I think we raised like almost seven
thousand dollars. I was able to give a thousand dollars
cash to my mom to pay for his rehab stuff.
So it's just been a sweet yeah, but yeah, a
different stage. So yeah, if anyone else is going through that,
feel free to reach out to me and we can
we can talk about the caregiver of it all.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I think the key thing that you said there is
to like reach out to your community.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, absolutely, not to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
On social media, but like people want to be there
for people, but we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, and it doesn't, like you said, it doesn't have
to be on social media, Like if you're in a
small group or if you're in if you're a part
of Soul, or if you're part of a fitness group
or anything that you're a part of is your community. Yeah,
And so if you're able to just let people know
what you're going through, they want to help. It's like
you want to help anyone else, Yeah, going through something totally.
And it doesn't have to be monetarily. It can be time,
it can be food. Yeah, and a huge and huge
(34:40):
for my parents, people making like freezer meals, and so
I could take them and stock their freezer, so it
takes something else off my mom's plate.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And so yeah, so you can have your mom. You
took around a trip like a one time, lifetime trip.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, yeah, how is that? It was amazing. So she
turned seventy last year. She quit smoking for the first
time ever. She's so, she's just fifteen years old, and
I was like, girl, the lungs are clear, Let's go somewhere.
I was like, where do you want to go? She goes,
what about the Arc Kentucky? And I said, oh, dream bigger.
(35:12):
I was like, how about No, I mean we can,
but like I'm saying, anywhere, mom, Yeah, anywhere you want
to go, And so we bought that arc exact and
so we went to Iceland because it's my favorite place
and I'm very familiar with it, so it's easy to
get around. And I was able to use a companion
pass for her so we didn't have to pay for
(35:33):
her flight, which is great. Yeah, took her all around Iceland.
First time she's been out of the country since she
was three years old, first time she's been on a
flight in like twenty years. You know.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
She just like so overwhelmed with joy, which their fear
there too.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Uh. I don't think she was afraid because she was
with me and we're just down a clown.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
But it's sweet time for you to look back on one day.
But I'm so glad I got that trip well.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And I knew that Ryan and I really wanted to
start a family soon, so I didn't know how important
was that we went ahead did that. Yeah, And it
was while my dad was in between, you know, stages
of his disease, and he was not in the hospital
and he was doing really well. Yeah, very easy for
her to leave him for a week, right with someone
without Gilter. Yeah. Now, I don't know if she could
do it. But the other day we were talking and
(36:16):
I was like, I think it was actually before I
told her I was pregnant. This is a few months ago.
I said, where do you want to go next? Mom?
Like I was kind of just joking with her. She said,
We're going back to Iceland. I said, okay. So when
I found out I was pregnant, I was like, the
first place I want to go with this baby is Iceland.
So I think I should take Ryan and my mom
and the baby. Ty.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, that's you should while the baby's a baby, because
it's the easiest time to travel. Yeah, that's what I'm
thinking when they just sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, So I keep you posted on that fun but yeah,
I'm hoping. I'm hoping if everything's okay edically all the
things next summer to do that that'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wait, wait when do you do October?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Sometime in October?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
What a great month?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So I'm thinking such a good month because then you're like,
you know, home for the holidays and yeah, you know,
a doctor is calling me because I didn't show up
an appointment. I well, I forgot today.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Oh my gosh, honey, I want to log up anyway
to pick up my kids. But oh my gosh, I know.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
What a joy? Yes, perfect, Now you know what's going
on in my life night Now I know, and I
know it's one on yours because I asked you how
the photo shoot? Yeah, And that's all guys. So if
you want to travel DM me, you need to know
anything about Iceland. Holler if you have PCUS or podcast,
keep going on a fertility journey, happy to chat through it,
happy to connect you to the people that I trust.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And y'all, seriously, if you want to DM summer and
you never met her, she will respond.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, we ship chatting in the DM, and you, even
if you.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Don't know her, you do now follow her because she
has funny content.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, it's been sparse recently.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
There haven't There haven't been as many cones. I know
content I need.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I need to bring it back a little. I feel
like people don't want to see it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh I want to see it. Yeah, you need to
have like a cone themed first birthday for your baby.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well that I would like to have a cone themed
baby shower. It's like under construction. Wouldn't that be funny?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Who's turning your baby shower?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We'll talk about it afterwards, okay, And then the first
birthday of her child will be survivor named we survived
the first year clean? Yes for cocoa. You have to.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But we're not going to do games because I just
don't have the time. I was just gonna do buffs
and like tiki torches and like make it cute and fun.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Message. Let's talk because maybe I could run the games
for you when it's her.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Birthday, like next month, early in June. Girl, let me know, Okay,
that would be fun. Would you be, Like what would
you be, Jeff? Yeah, you'd have to be, Jeff. So
my best friend Taylor, you met her. She lives in Texas,
her husband and her arms as a survivor as well,
and every year for her birthday, her parents have a
lake house, and so they go to the lake and
(38:41):
they BUYE a bunch of friends and they literally have
survivor games and her husband is wt.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Him do it? He is Jeff? Is he coming now?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
He is Jeff? He's his name because his name is
Travis in real life. He calls himself tref and he
tries the character the entire weekend. Like he wears cargo shorts.
He wears the whole HALFE. He doesn't break character.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Her go to his birthday.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
So we tried to go last year, but I was
pregnant next year. This year, yeah, maybe think all right, listeners,
I love you guys so much. I'm gonna put all
of Summer's links in the sure nurch.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
At Summer Lambert photo.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That's the only link, and that's what you're gonna click,
and you're gonna follow her and you're gonna have a
great time. Yea, love you so much, Summer, Love you,
Love you so much, listeners. I don't know who's coming
next week. That's just how I live my life.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
See what's that? Maybe it'll be me again, I don't know,
might be Summer. You can seek a rout away before
a second episode. All right by y'all.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Thanks for listening to Heart and Soul. If this episode encouraged.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
You in any way, please leave a review.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
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Speaker 3 (39:41):
You get to your podcast. Talk to you next week.
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