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August 30, 2025 72 mins

The EPA is moving to rescind the 2009 “endangerment” finding that declared CO₂ a pollutant—supposedly dangerous to human health, well-being, and the planet. Now that the public comment period is open, the National Academy of Sciences is rushing activist scientists into action to defend it. The usual suspects—Michael Mann, Zeke Hausfather, and others—are already whining, while media allies like AP’s Seth Borenstein launch their own attacks.


In this episode of The Climate Realism Show, The Heartland Institute’s Anthony Watts, H. Sterling Burnett, Linnea Lueken, and Jim Lakely—joined by returning special guest Chris Martz—dig into the coming “NASty Gram” on CO₂ headed to the EPA. Chris brings his sharp, meteorology-based analysis to cut through the noise and spotlight the facts.


We also cover some of the week’s most outrageous climate news: claims that “deniers” are refusing to die from heat waves, a school district ditching electric buses to go back to gas because EVs can’t be repaired, and why climate change isn’t dooming your bananas.


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