24: OshinSims Talks Sims and Stories: A Journey Through Creativity and Community

Join OshinSims as she delves into the evolution of The Sims community and its impact on content creation. Discover how this beloved game has become a platform for creativity, storytelling, and connection. From personal milestones to community-driven innovations, explore how The Sims has shaped her creative journeys and fostered a sense of belonging.

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Episode Transcript

(00:08):
Hey everyone, welcome back to the Hell Spring Podcast.
Today's guest is someone whose storytelling and heartfelt
gameplay has made her a comforting staple in The Sims
community. Ocean Sims is a passionate
simmer who's been playing since The Sims 1.
As a mom, a wife, and a longtimefan of the franchise, she brings
her cozy vibes and meaningful stories to life through her
Let's Plays with a deep love forfamily gameplay.

(00:31):
Whether you're here for nostalgia, gameplay tips, or
just general inspiration, you'rein for a real treat.
So let's go ahead and welcome Ocean Sims to the Hello Spring
podcast. Hello Ocean, welcome in.
Thank you for coming onto the podcast for Hello Spring for
season 2. I am very excited.
I know you were on last season, but it's always exciting to chat

(00:54):
with you and yak with you about a lot of things.
Sims life your cats YouTube lovestruck all the all the things
love sick, Not love struck even though that's a pack, but you
know hey, but welcome. In Thank you so much.
I cannot believe we're on Season2 and I'm so excited to talk to
you. Yeah, same.

(01:16):
So for anyone that is new to thepodcast and does not know Ocean
Sims, feel free to, you know, let the people know who you are,
what you do. OK, I'm Ocean.
I am a mom of three. Well technically a mom of five
because now we have 2 cats and they are my world.

(01:40):
I'm married and I absolutely love Sims.
Like I am just a full time SIM mom.
I tell people I'm like a full time mom off Cam and on Cam.
I love my Sims, they're my babies.
Literally, I love that. I love that you have your
personal life and you have your pixel life, but it's all like
your life. That's that's good.

(02:04):
Well, since the last season, a lot has happened because I think
the last time that we had talkedto each other was like 4-4 years
ago or so. Since the last season, which is
kind of a very long time. That's a.
Long time. Yeah, it is.
And I'm like, we talk. We talk to each other like on
like Discord and like Twitter and stuff.

(02:25):
Like never in this type of format.
Right. So I would love to know what has
been like happening with you since we last like chatted in
the last season, especially in like the last year of like 2024
now that we're in 2025, any likemajor life changes, milestones,

(02:46):
anything? So I officially hit 100K after
we spoke, and that was definitely after we spoke,
right? Yeah.
OK. I hit 100K and I lost my
computer. That got me to 100K.
It died on me and that was really sad.

(03:07):
And from that moment I kind of restarted my whole thought
process on YouTube. So my content before my computer
died on me is a little bit different than the content I'm
doing now. But right now I am playing an A
rotational save file, doing new things, using less CC in mods.

(03:28):
But we are heading back into themodded direction, and I'm going
to be back into deep storytelling now that I'm
comfortable with my new computer.
Oh good that I like that that you're you're kind of like once
what what you had before was like sad, but it kind of brought
new life into you of making new content in a different way.

(03:51):
And I really love your rotational gameplay.
It's so inspiring because, one, not a lot of people know like
how to properly play The Sims orhow to find a, a new way to be
inspired, especially with storytelling and The Sims and
creations and just where to evenstart.
And I think the best way is to do it like in a rotational style

(04:13):
for like a couple of days and then move on to the next one and
after that one move on to the next one.
It's so fun. It actually started off with me
rotating different families and Willow Creek.
So our townies, the OG townies, the pancakes, the gods, and the
Spencer Kim Lewis family who I never would play with.
And so after giving them a makeover, I don't know, I'm kind

(04:35):
of becoming a Willow Creek fan. Like that was a world that I
wasn't really crazy about, but now just rotating the different,
lots of different families and adding my own lore, I really
like them. So it's been really fun.
And I'm also playing with my my own family within this
rotational save file and it keeps things interesting.
And I feel like because we do this every single day, like no

(04:55):
one realizes we are playing Simsalmost every day, no.
We really are. That's not normal.
Like that's not normal, right. So like you said, it does keep
things interesting. And knowing that I'm inspiring
other people's gameplay is really fun because I feel like
my audience also inspires me. Like they apply pressure on me,

(05:17):
a good pressure. Like I have to keep it
interesting. We have to keep it fun.
Yeah, yeah. I think it's important because
like content creation, like you've been doing this for a
very long time and you've been making Sims content, and I
remember the good old, you know,Charlie Ann.
I knew you were going to I just.Can't like forget that family

(05:40):
that that SIM. I think it's just so iconic
because when I first found like your YouTube channel, I'm like
this, this simmer got something,got something to them.
They got a little little juice to the content.
So I'm like, I'm was invested. And then of course you had like
your, your city living family. I think it was like 3 Sims, like

(06:02):
1 was a gamer and stuff like that.
And then of course, you grew into your content and you got a
lot more comfortable. I like the way I see it and hear
it is that when I watch content,especially yours, you've grown
into your confidence of like speaking to a microphone and
making content and, and it's just like the growth and it's

(06:24):
just so nice just to see the evolution of where you started
to where you are now. And you're like, there's a lot
of changes that happens in like in the world and the industry
and YouTube and whatever, but you have grown with your content
and it shows. I appreciate that.
And I think one thing that you said is so important, like when

(06:48):
you're doing this, you're bound to change.
Like I know I might not even sound the same as my first
video, like none of us do. But I do find comfort in coming
up around simmers like you, urban Sims, Fantisia.
I always mention them when we speak because you 3 are what
gave me that push to really justdo this.

(07:10):
And you all have not changed. And like any negative way, like
you're still the same creators Ifell in love with six years ago.
Yes, six years ago. Like we're really doing this.
It's crazy. But yeah, I feel like I've grown
with my content. I feel much happier on the
platform. I used to definitely be one of
those people that would compare my content and like new simmers

(07:32):
would would come in our room andI'd.
I feel like I have to change like what I was doing.
And then I got to a point where I was like, you know, what, if
I'm not happy doing this and I have to show up every day, I
might as well just do what I love and not change anything too
much about me, you know? Yeah, I think that's very
important like the good mindset to go into it like don't change
yourself to please other people.And if you're going into this

(07:57):
career field that we call it to make money and the fame and what
not that comes with this like ordoing it for the wrong reasons.
And I think what The Sims community in general with
YouTube, it's forever growing and this game franchises is
getting old 25 years. Right.

(08:20):
And we like, I think a lot of usnever expected us to like people
watch our videos or like make a career out of it.
And it's like we just like playing with pixel Sims and
causing chaos and drama and sometimes wholesomeness.
But it's cool that people can relate to what, especially the
stories that we tell. Right.

(08:42):
Like when when I first started, I never thought, wow, this could
be successful. I'll be an EA game changer.
At the time, that's what they called us.
And I will, you know, have all these opportunities.
We didn't think that. We just started it.
And I can honestly say that like, it sounds so cheesy, but
if you were to just want to enter this room, you have to do

(09:04):
it because you love to do it because you have to show up.
And it's so hard to keep doing something you love if you just
want to do it for the success. Because I've seen a lot of new
simmers come in that I never seeon my homepage anymore.
And their last video, you know what I mean?
It's like you have to really love it.
And I really admire like I wouldsay I want to say our generation

(09:26):
of simmers, but I I came after you a little bit.
So I feel like the Ogs like you,Jen James delicacy Lil Simsie.
Hey, Kayla, if you ever listen to this, hey.
I love I call you an OG. You think so?
Am I an OG now? Like like you're an OG in like
The Sims 4 category because. Yeah, yeah.

(09:46):
So like, because you started like 6-7 years ago and like The
Sims world was still like it's an infancy.
So there weren't a lot of thingsback then.
And so it was still like growing, making its, you know,
audience and community. And you started something that
really changed the game for likeyour type of audience.

(10:07):
And it really shows that everyone has their type of
gameplay, whether it's family drama, violence, occults,
there's something for everyone. And I think back then it we
didn't have much. And of course, it's grown a lot
in like diversity and storytelling aspect and how they

(10:30):
make their games, but also how the community has changed as a
whole, in a good way and a bad way.
And I think it's so nice to see that everyone can come
collectively for one singular thing, and that is The Sims.
Whether we like it or not, I think we all have something that
we deeply love about this game. I love that you said that.

(10:51):
I feel like that statement alonejust needs to be clipped and
like shared everywhere because that was such a good way to
explain like our community rightnow.
And it's it's I'm, I'm honored because going back to how you
said, I would be considered an OG for The Sims 4, which is
great because I've missed my Sims 3 era and I cry about it

(11:12):
all the time. I'm like, Oh my gosh, like that
was an era queen, You know, I just, I wish I was around.
I wish I was around, you know, at that time, but my little
Walmart laptop could not handle Sims 3 so I miss my hair.
Look at mine. But didn't you have like a build

(11:36):
that was like really popular it wasn't it a Sims 3 build or
something? Yeah, it was like a family house
that I built way, way, way, way back then.
Yeah, see, and that's what brings me back to the point that
you mentioned that back then we were still forming what The Sims
is on YouTube. And so it's like there wasn't a
lot of us. And so everything was

(11:57):
interesting. Everything was interesting
because there weren't a lot of us.
Like every new channel I found was interesting.
Andrew Arcade. Like there are a lot of people
that I know, right? Like so many people that aren't
even like on the platform like that as it was before.
But you know, now we can find a little bit of everything for
anyone. And I think that's really cool,
but I hope no one ever forgets that like we kind of built this

(12:20):
brick by brick like. We did.
Honestly, when you think about it, it's like, wow, it's like
we, we see like The Sims as our favorite game.
And of course Maxis makes The Sims with an EA controls The
Sims. And it's like our our genuine
love of this game, like we want it to succeed and we want to see

(12:43):
change. And we have seen that in the
past couple of years with new skin tone, a variety of new skin
tones, pronouns, binders and shapewear, hearing aids, top
surgery, scars, all the different things that we have
gotten really goes to show that we do make The Sims.
We do. Oh wow, you're so right.

(13:03):
That goes back to, I think we were part of the same campaign,
and it was like, you make The Sims.
Yeah, like we really do make TheSims.
They are actively changing it because of us, because we play
this and we want it to be the best.
And it's so funny because the base game is unrecognizable.

(13:26):
I get so jealous of like new simmers who come in and be like,
I just started playing The Sims 4 today.
I'm like, yeah, you don't know how hard it was back then in
2014. It was a struggle.
No, it's it's still great though.
I mean, it is. I love.
Like I always say, if you want to start playing The Sims, play
The Sims 4 please, because I love that it's the easiest game

(13:49):
to understand because they have so many tutorials, which can get
annoying at times. But it's so helpful to have like
that helping hand to guide you through everything to understand
like the basics of building gameplay a little bit with the
fun features that we have, and even create a SIM with that
storytelling thing we have in cast.
I haven't used that in so long, Wow.

(14:10):
I haven't used it in either in awhile and I need to.
We should just do a video where we just let it, you know, like
create a SIM for us. So one thing that you said that
I really love was that we have alot more tutorials now, which I
had to humble myself. I I really would get annoyed
with all of the tutorials. But then I thought, if we want

(14:31):
this game to keep crawling, not everyone has that same intuition
like we do. So for the younger audience and
for new people coming to The Sims, those tutorials are so
helpful and we can disable them easy.
But for people that are new likewe have to keep the game alive
and they don't really like. My husband went through the
tutorial when it was that old tutorial.

(14:52):
Lord and Lou. Yeah, like he needed that.
And you're so right about The Sims 4 being the easiest to play
because when you go in a Sims 2 and Sims 3 after not playing for
years, it feels like the most complicated game in the world.
It is. Oh, it is.
I couldn't I tell people all thetime do like I don't want auto

(15:15):
roofing at all. No, because please don't.
The way The Sims 4 functions, I love this game so much, but the
way the game just has been for auto roofing, however you build
your house is how your roof is going to look and the game does
not recognize different bump outs and sides of the house.
And like, we don't want it, we don't need it.

(15:36):
We don't even need auto windows.Even though that we have it, we
don't need it. No.
But what we do need is a lot more things for the younger
generation. I would love to see more things
for infants since they're so newand toddlers and kids like I
want more of that stuff for them.
Me too, I'm waiting. I'm just waiting to see an

(15:58):
e-mail from EA like hey, do you want to do an infant's kit?
Because, you know, like I reallywant to do that.
I and when I thought when we gotthe golden years kid, I thought
to myself that had your name allover it.
You love elders. I love elders so much.
I'm like, wait a minute, that's all I need.
Now you see. The objects.
Right. We just need some new objects

(16:19):
for them. And you know, it's just because
we grow with our families. We do.
You know, so I, I want that so bad.
I want more gameplay for Sims like I don't want any more like
missions and objectives like I want more gameplay items for
them. I do too.

(16:40):
I think like that's the one thing about this, like ever
growing community is like there's so many like of course
mods and and things that come out and I think they're helpful,
but then not everyone can accessit, whether they have like the
capability to download them or just don't have them because
they play on console. I think we definitely need to
have that integrated into the game organically so everyone can

(17:04):
have access to that, that fun, fun new features.
And I think for the future of The Sims, I want to see more
collaborations and more people that they work with and packs
that they make and kits that they make.
Like I think you should definitely like pitch that, like
saying, hey, let's work on a infant kit.

(17:26):
Like that would be so cool. I might I might do that instead
of waiting for an opportunity, Ijust need to create one.
Yes, if you don't see it, createit.
Right. And you're so right, like a lot
of people don't have the privilege to install mods or
have them or it's just a preference.
And I think that's why I'm always on the fence of playing

(17:46):
vanilla and then playing heavilymodded.
There's no in between with me. I'm either vanilla or I have
every mod out there. And Speaking of mods, how modded
is your game? I haven't checked in with your
Sims 4 stuff, only your Sims 2 stuff.
Well my my Sims 4 mods folders like 28 gigabytes.

(18:10):
Excuse me, it's. It's still, it's just a little
bit, it's a tiny bit of mount. It's mostly all of the hairs
that like clog up the file size and the objects I need to delete
out of my game because I don't use them unless I'm like playing
a personal household because I build so much and I post things
to the gallery but I never put CC in the builds to post the

(18:34):
gallery because I don't like linking things.
It takes too much time. It does.
And you know what? It's hard to because you see a
cute thing, a build CC, and you download it and you're like, I'm
going to use this. And you never use it.
Like you download it just because it's so cute and you
have to have it, but you never use it because it's not
convenient. Unless, like you said, you're

(18:55):
playing a personal household. Then it makes sense because
you're like OK, but luckily for me I don't upload to the gallery
too much when it comes to build so I've been going a little
crazy with my build. CC I like that, honestly,
there's there's only one house that I really technically play
religiously with all the CC. It's my O'Connor diary.

(19:15):
Oh. Gosh, they're so they are so
cute. That's your comfort, family.
It is. I could play them day in the
night and I barely post them, but it's like I just like to
play with them. But now that the game has it
where The Sims doesn't recognizepregnancy, I'm like, I can't
continue that family until it gets fixed because my SIM is

(19:37):
pregnant right now and she's in our second trimester.
So I'm like, let's not have this.
So like a bit of a pause. I might do a little bit of the
Soul food legacy or a change. You should.
Well, I'll start by saying this.I have not updated my game yet
so I don't have those problems. Well, you're lucky.

(20:01):
Right. I'm like fancy.
I'm just sitting watching the madness unfold and I'm like, I
didn't update yet, but yeah, thesoul food legacy, everyone keeps
recommending that to me and I started the very veggie and I
don't know how to do more than one legacy at a time.
Oh, it's a hot mess. It's a hot like, do you feel I

(20:22):
thought you were going to encourage me?
I mean the good part is like youcan start multiple legacies at
once. I have like 4.
I think the way I see it is like, I treat it as like not a
job. I treat as like as an enjoyment
type of thing. So I break it up every couple of
days, like real life days. Like I'll play it for like 3

(20:45):
days if I want to and then I move on to the next one.
And then it's kind of like a rotational thing that you do
like in The Sims 4 with your gameplay.
Play it for a couple of days, move on to the next one, Play a
little extra if you want to, if you're having really fun with
it, and then kind of go back to the other one to kind of
progress it through even though they're not in the same save
file. OK, I'm making mental notes

(21:07):
because I'm like, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't feel so hard
about, I mean like get hard on myself and feel bad if I don't
run through my legacies, you know, that's my fear.
I feel like if I start this soulfood legacy that I'll end up
dropping my very veggie legacy because I'll have so much fun
with the other one or vice versa.
And so I don't even try. Yeah.

(21:30):
I mean, like you can like alwaystreat it as like a theme.
Like when I was thinking of likedoing different things, I treat
it as like Sims 2 Sunday or Sims2 Saturday.
I'll play X Sims 2 on this day and that day for a couple of
hours or couple of days if I want to.
And like soul Food Legacy could be like a soul food sundae type

(21:52):
of thing. They're very veggie.
Could be like very veggie Wednesday.
I don't. I really don't know.
OK, if you do the Soul Food Legacy Challenge and if you ever
deem it Soul Food Sunday, I am totally copying that.
So I'm just going to let that beknown right there.
I don't mind. I got this from the spring
stems. Because it's so cool.

(22:14):
Like honestly I'm just like soulfood legacy is the best legacy I
have seen in a while. I love very edgy like soul food
is it has like a different seasoning.
It has soul, babe. It has soul.
It has. Soul has a little little meat
and potatoes to it. It does.
It has that, yeah, it has that off and I you know, and it's

(22:36):
awesome because do you remember we had to do, we both did this
actually. Gosh, we've had opportunities
together that I just I know it'slike we're like brothers and
sisters opportunities, but we had the black representation
like videos that we you rememberthat I.
Remember that? Yeah.
That was so fun. And I feel like that's why the

(22:58):
Soul Food legacy is so good to us, because we can relate to it.
We understand it, you know what I mean?
Like we get it. And I would love like and I'm
just I'm just going to say this.I would love if, even though
someone or simmer could not understand that the culture of
that legacy, if they would just try it just to see how their

(23:18):
gameplay would be with it. Yes, you know, like I feel like
it does need more and he's recognition.
So I don't know, I think I mightstream that because I'm we
streaming I think. That'd be really fun.
And I think honestly, that was where I wanted to talk to you
more about like you have done content creation for quite some
time now. You've done some live streams on

(23:40):
YouTube and I would count that OK as live streams, Casual,
simple, easy, fun, chatty. But you have recently discussed
that you wanted to do some Twitch streaming and I feel like
YouTube and Twitch are kind of like similar platforms but
they're completely different in community.

(24:02):
Where YouTube is everything is all on one platform and it's so
overwhelming especially if you've been doing it for a long
time with pre recorded videos. Whereas Twitch is just
completely live live unedited content, which can be a good
thing and a bad thing. Depends on how you see it.

(24:23):
Right. But it just feels like a
community there where everyone can come in, hang out, chill
with you for an hour or two or forever how long?
And it just feels good day in and day out.
And I stream every day you. Stream every day What?
Monday through Saturday, how do you about 3 hours?

(24:47):
OK, that is like, I don't even know if you hear the birds
outside my window. I'm sorry, but that's a little
ambience for you. But that is so admirable.
Every day. How long?
For about like 3 hours a day I assume at night though.
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday from 6:00 PM to

(25:07):
9:00 PM Central time and then Wednesdays 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM
Central time. I was thinking about, you know,
since I'm new to streaming and also thank you so much for the
compliments earlier because I don't count my YouTube streaming
as streaming because it was so casual.
But that's what streaming is. It's like you're just hanging

(25:28):
out. But I kind of wanted to do like
morning streams. That was always the hard part
for me when streaming is like I didn't know when to incorporate
it because I do have kids, I do have a husband and I have cats,
but and then sometimes they're all over my keyboard and stuff.
So they do get in the way. But I just want to step outside

(25:52):
of my comfort zone for the rest of my career.
Like I feel like I was too comfortable.
I was, I was way too comfortablewhere I was.
And I feel like I'm not. I feel like I'm not pushing
myself anymore. I feel like once I hit 100, Ki
was like, oh OK, that's the goal, but it doesn't stop there.
No, it does not. We got to keep growing, got to
keep doing. Whether we like it or not.

(26:13):
We, we, we continue to grow as people and I I see as we're
people and we grow both personally and professionally.
Oh I love that I I needed to hear that I meet the hype
because I am scared to stream. No, I'm scared every day, every
time I press that go life button.
I don't know what's going to happen.

(26:35):
I don't know what's who's going to be there.
I'm like, I'll just keep yappinguntil someone pops up maybe.
But it's, I think when you have like that bond with the people
that watch your content and you have something to talk about or
as a game or whatever you're doing, I think there's always
someone who's going to appear and wants to talk to you,

(26:57):
Especially when you have like those core people that you know
that really will show up every single time.
And it's like they always say people who have like a million,
10 million, whatever, 100,000 followers on different platforms
or collectively. Sometimes it's only like 10%
that will always show up and be there.

(27:18):
You're like you're ride or dies.That's true.
So and that's something new for me because we're not new.
I am familiar with that because on YouTube I have you know, that
group, those group of people that will comment on every
video. It could be a Sims 2 video, it
could be a mod review. It could be episode 50 of the

(27:41):
same LP and they will comment and show up.
And I really do appreciate that.I love that.
And I think that was another thing.
That was another reason why I wanted to build a community on
Twitch because I know there are still tons of simmers that I
haven't came across or that havecame across me.
And so I'm hoping to find like my group of people over there.

(28:02):
I'm sure the people that follow me on YouTube will be over
there, but not everyone watches Twitch streams.
Right, and I think you'll find alot of simmers on on Twitch and
I found quite a few and it is really it's steadily growing.
Back when I first started, therewas barely anybody.
I mean we had Andrew arcade, we had Rory plays, we had James

(28:24):
Turner, we had deli Bixella and then of course we had life
simmer and there was like slowlybut surely growing and then it
just like took a a big boom. I feel like in 2020 where a lot
of people, of course we were allat home for reasons that we
could not control. Right.

(28:44):
And in a way, I say like 2020 was a good year and a bad year
for a lot of different things. But I think it also, at least
for me personally, because I graduated at university in 2020
and I always felt that I needed a way where I just did not have
to leave my house. And so I treated as a, as a good

(29:05):
thing where I got to focus on my, my content, my lovely pixel
family and really take this seriously and do it full time.
And I've been doing it for like 5 years now, at least full time,
but I've been doing it since I was 14.
Oh my goodness, 14 sounds. I don't remember 14 anymore.
I feel like I've been adulting my whole life.

(29:28):
Same. But that is so true.
When 2020 hit, it was it. It had its pros and cons, but it
definitely made me lock in the same way that it made you lock
in. It just made us.
And then truthfully, a lot of people were looking to be
entertained at home. And when things were starting to

(29:49):
return back to normal, I actually saw like, you know, a
decrease in views because everyone was starting to go back
to their regular lives. Like 2020 was lit for us, OK?
It was nice. It was, it really was.
And and then my personal life too.
I love that my kids were home, my husband was home.
It was, it was, it was good in the moment of having adversity.

(30:13):
So yes, yeah, it definitely was.And now we're kind of getting
back to normal. But and I think did eco
lifestyle come out in 2020? I cannot remember.
I believe so because that's alsoaround the kind of around the
time when The Sims Spark came out.
Oh my God, Did you all feel thisin the pandemic?
Like, no, we feel this in late 2019.

(30:34):
Yes. We didn't know what's going to
happen next month. Did you know that I was supposed
to be up there but I declined? Yeah, I'm glad that you did.
And I know why you say that. Trust me.
I've. You know me.
You know me. I got the.
Yeah, I, I Absolutely. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

(30:56):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, you you've dodged some bullets,
which I did. I did, I did.
I was like, oh, OK, but I was absolutely.
I will say it was a very interesting time.
Like The Sims sparked. Oh my goodness, that was such a
weird like who Eve, We don't do stuff like that in the in our

(31:17):
community. More like it was random.
We really don't. We do a lot of challenges, True.
Not in not in real life, but youknow, there's that.
I think it was like the height of reality TV shows and wanting
to like really make something big up The Sims, even though The
Sims was already big at its coreanyway.
I think they wanted to tap into a different market back then,

(31:38):
which made sense, and I feel like now that they are like
they're doing so many big thingsnow.
Marketing wise, it's so different, but in a good way for
good way, in a bad way. I've seen some bad marketing,
but I've seen some good marketing and I think there's
time to really tap into that like that mainstream.

(31:58):
That's why we're getting The Sims movie, which honestly, I'll
take any day, but it has to be good.
It has to be good and I need to know who's going to play Eliza
and Bob. No honestly same.
I think they have to definitely incorporate the pancakes in some
type of way. Some like some randomness.
They have to include Bella, the land grabs, the Calientes, Don

(32:20):
Lothario, and the Grim Reaper like the core.
That's the movie that like that.That's it.
That's what we need. That's all we really need,
personally. Oh, I have a question for you
because you were just naming a bunch of townies, Sims 4
townies. Who is your favorite townie and
the entire Sims 4? Oh my God, that's like almost 11

(32:42):
years of history, aren't there? I honestly it was always like
Bob Pancakes because he was so misunderstood.
And then I realized he's also toxic so I don't like him
anymore. I guess it would have to be.
Oh my gosh. Right, I'm sitting here thinking

(33:02):
to myself, like, who do I? Like, I mean, I really love the
Oh my the Michaelson family a lot, but I think my my favorite
of all time would have to be Bryant and Brent Hecking.
That's a comfort couple. I love the.
Most like least dramatic household in the entire Sims 4

(33:25):
franchise. So they don't have anything
going on, like they're just happy chilling in Bridleton Bay.
Right got their dog Rosie and like living their life and like
unproblematic and that is what Ilike until something happens and
then I serve some some drama. Gosh, I love it.
Well, that it's our obligation to stir up drama.
It is. It is.
No one can be perfect. No one's safe.
We can have no safe household inthis life.

(33:48):
I mean you have your your favorite world but like what is
your favorite household then? Since you asked me a question, I
want to ask you one too. Goodness, now I have to really
think I'm so used to my own households that I'm like, I was
about to name a household that Icreated and I'm like, no, that's
that's not a Tony. I I think I think right now,

(34:08):
Well, I'll say this. This is always going to change
because I changed my mind with everything.
But I'm thinking the BFFS right now, the BFF household, and that
is only because I had to go backto my Willow Creek rotation to
save and choose a family to playwith because I'm going to play a
little bit off Cam before I record the next episode.
And I really like them like thistrio dynamic of friendship that

(34:29):
could go either way. You know, you could pair whoever
you they could be a throuple. It doesn't even matter, like you
could do whatever with them. And I kind of just love the idea
of three best friends, childhoodbest friends, going through
adulthood together. Yeah, I've always treated it
like like that. I always thought they were a
throuple because, I mean, Scott got Liberty Lee and Summer

(34:51):
Holiday and then they all love each other, but they don't want
to say anything to ruin their friendship.
Things to go sideways in a splitof a second.
And you never know what to expect until it happens.
And I think that's always fun because so the game can be very
unpredictable, life can be very unpredictable, but we just got
to go with the flow and see whathappens.

(35:12):
Yes, and that's why I like it. Like I just, I'm playing with
them in a totally different way now.
Before I could not be bothered with them or their house.
I did not like the BFF house. So they look so boring.
But I made them over and they look good and they're fun to
play with. That's good because it's
important to always make over Sims that look a little bit 2014
ish. Please do.

(35:34):
I was going to spice it up a little bit more, but I think
something that I always thought that was so unique to like your
content is like how your creative process has like
evolved in the past couple of years.
Like what would you say like your, like, how has your
creative process evolved in 2025?
Because it's been like we're already in July at this point.

(35:57):
Wow. Yeah, that's a great question
because it has changed and how Imove has changed.
When my computer broke down on me, that is when I took a break
from creativity because Jen, ourgood friend Urban Sims, that's
me that has stuck with me since she told it told me this.
And it's that creativity is a muscle.

(36:18):
And for us, it really is like weare working that creative muscle
so often. So I kind of took a break.
I didn't have a process. I just showed up and played and
recorded for a while. And now, now that I'm going back
into my roots, the storytelling and that deepness, you know,
that rich storytelling and gameplay that I'm into, it's not

(36:39):
like I'm like letting the game decide for me anymore.
Now that I'm back into this room, I am a turn on my playlist
that I created for whatever family or Let's Play.
And I have to just go in that save, prep everything, and I
have to lock in. Like I have to close my door and
just do that for three hours straight.
That is me lately because I'm getting love sick back and I

(37:01):
can't, I can't do, I cannot do really deep content unless I can
lock in and have my alone time because I'm married and I have
kids. That's why I don't push that
kind of content out all the time.
And you won't get it all the time, because if I can't lock
myself in a room for three hoursstraight, then I can't do it.
It takes work. That's totally valid.

(37:25):
It does take a lot of work. And I think the whole idea of
like storytelling, it is a for sure creative muscle, like Jen
said, like you really have to work your brain to think
creatively again. And when things go sideways,
like wait, I have to think differently.
So that way it makes sense for my, my soul and my brain and the

(37:47):
content that I'm creating because it doesn't make any
sense and like why I post it or like why I created that day.
And honestly, storytelling, you can get it from different
avenues, whether it's watching ATV show, reading a book,
starting a new hobby of any kind.
And I think that's like what we got to do as people take a step

(38:10):
back, realize what we're seeing.And if it's something that we
don't like, we have to change it.
So that way we can go back to our true passion that we loved
from when it was enjoyable. Yes.
Like if I watch, I wanted to getLove Sick out sooner.
I wanted to get some kind of like storytelling Let's play out

(38:32):
sooner. But I couldn't rush the process
because I knew I just wasn't ready to commit.
But the more I watch, like my favorite show, if that has a lot
of storytelling, I'll get inspired.
Like I get inspired by real lifethings, real life issues that
are happening around me to my family.
They don't even know. But their business is in my LP's

(38:53):
and their experience is in my LP's and they don't even know.
But yeah, like we, we get inspired by many, many things.
And in fact, I was actually reading a book.
It's called The Cost of Knowing.And I wanted to make an LP
inspired by that. I just, I don't even know how
I'm going to do that. But just like you said, reading
books, I mean, everything inspires us.
So now I'm at that point where I've had so much inspiration,

(39:15):
I'm able to just get back to myself and finally make time for
an LP like this. No, I like that.
And I too also have been gettingback into reading as of lately.
And I just finished a book called Don't Let Her Stay by
Nicola Sanders. And it's so it's so

(39:35):
psychological twisty, like it's a thriller type book and it
really kind of locks you in in like the first few chapters of
realizing why is she doing this?Why is she married to this
person? Why is her stepdaughter so crazy
and manipulative? Like why it's so insane because
this character is Joanne. Don't give us spoilers, I'm

(39:58):
going to write the book down. OK, well.
Because I might read this book. I've been.
I'm in my reading era. Well I will say though, the book
will will get you in and honestly make you lose your mind
and ask so many questions like Iwrote down so many questions.
You write down questions. When you read, you write
questions. Yes.

(40:21):
You're smart. And then I'm like, I didn't know
it was going to go this way. It happens in the next chapter.
I'm like, well this is just great.
I'm going to try to do that whenI'm reading, just to stay
engaged because I've never thought to do that.
Yeah, it's it's so helpful because it will allow me to

(40:42):
remember if like why I asked this question before and then
kind of going forward into the next chapter and the next one
and towards the end all the questions I asked all now makes
sense. So it gets better and better
each time that you read a certain sentence.
I highlight certain phrases, certain sentences, some like

(41:05):
this might have. This might come in hand later,
or this might mean something andit does.
And I'm like, OK, now things make more sense.
You don't understand how helpfulthat is for me, because here's
the thing, And also just before I say this, that book was called
Don't Let Her Stay, right? Yes, don't let her stay.

(41:25):
Don't let her stay, OK? Because I really want to.
I want to get more books read. I know this is off topic to
Sims, but it's still very much on topic because I use the books
as inspiration and highlighting and doing all that like that is
so engaging when you read a book.
It is, yeah. And it's.

(41:46):
It's hard for me to finish a book now, so that's why it
sounds like I just listened to ascientific discovery when you
told me that. It's like I used to treat books
as like an assignment because I had to do it for like school and
it felt very unenjoyable becauseI had to read books that I did
not want to read or had no interest in reading.

(42:07):
So I swore off it for a very long time until like last year
and I'm like, I'm going to startreading books that I actually
want to read that are enjoyable and not too long but will keep
my interest. I need all of your book
recommendations. Oh, I have a lengthy list.
I will. Send it to you because sometimes

(42:28):
it's hard to find a book and I think that you would like the
cost of knowing just based off the description of what you were
telling me with this book, I really feel like you'd enjoy
this book so. The cost of knowing.
Yes, the cost of knowing it's sogood.
Oh that, I will definitely checkit out then.

(42:49):
I love reading new books that will make me inspired and then I
literally take all the inspiration and put it into my
Sims. Exactly.
And that's why I want to read the book that you told me
because I'm like, maybe I can benefit from this.
And honestly, I will say this, I'm guilty of playing that same
story. You know, like I feel like I'm
doing something different, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not

(43:12):
out-of-the-box as a writer wouldin these books.
I read these books and I'm like,wow, how did they do that plot
twist? And like you said, like you'll
ask a question and then it's a completely different outcome.
And I want to do that when I tell stories, you know what I
mean? Like I'm always in the same
space with the story. I want more plot twist and turns
and all that. Like I, I used to, I don't know

(43:33):
if I've ever told you this or not, but like I've been making
contents since I was 14. But when I started it was like
on a whole different YouTube channel that's still up there,
which is scary. Oh gosh.
But it was, I used to feel like Sims 2 all the time and it was
like Sims 2 Machinimas. That is what I did.

(43:54):
If you didn't make a Sims 2 machinima, are you even really a
Sims fan? You know, right?
There was a series on YouTube, Idon't know if you watched it but
it was a series called My Life by Natalie Fire X.
On I think it, I think I did. Was it kind of emotional?
It was, it was kind of, it was emotional.
It was like your your typical like teenage love story type of

(44:19):
Sims to machinima. But it grew even more after that
and they just ended the series like a couple days ago and the
video, the series finale was like 2 hours long and I'm just
like literally the entire serieswas my entire life.

(44:39):
I love that. Like 13 years of that series.
I need to find that. Oh, it's so good.
I'll send you everything. I'll put everything show notes.
But no, I just find like it's soinspiring to get so many

(44:59):
different inspirations and really try and think outside of
the box to help us grow in our storytelling, in our everyday
life. And I think one day, one of
these days, I think you should write a book.
I told Jen you should write a book.
And I'm like, I will stand by that.
Y'all are good storytellers and I think people need to see that.

(45:23):
Yes, I and that's funny because you brought up writing a book
and I have not forgotten that you told me that and what I
wanted to do. I was thinking about which
spoiler Oh well, Oh well, if if this is out there, but because I
didn't know if I was going to continue lovesick, which
obviously, like I'm I'm continuing it, but not really

(45:44):
continuing it. I'm not going to say anything
else because you just have to gofollow my channel.
Yes. But I wanted to take what I
already filmed with Lovesick andmake that a book, and then I'll
really be able to refine it, youknow?
Because I know these characters,I know the story, I know the
outcome already. So it'll be easier for me to
write a whole book. Yes.
Yeah. Because in the Lovesick series

(46:05):
she wrote, the main character wrote Lovesick as a book.
And so yeah, I really want to dothat.
I think Miss Sam Renault wrote abook.
Yeah. Yeah, that was admirable.
I'm thinking to myself like, whydon't we do that?
We should Jen to write a book. Yeah.
I mean, I'm writing a book rightnow, but it's like I got to
figure out the plot line and everything.

(46:27):
I have all the characters. I just got to sit down and write
it. Right.
Isn't that hard to actually sit down and just write it?
It's like, where do we begin? How do I want to start the 1st
chapter first? Like prologue?
It's just a whole thing that I really got to tap into more.
I feel like we need, well, me. I feel like I need time when I

(46:51):
don't have designated time. I can't get anything done.
No, I'm the same way. It's like I've got streaming and
I've got YouTube. I have my my dog to take care
of. Oh, your dog, That's your baby.
Yes, it is. His name's Randy Joe.
Randy Joe, Don't forget the Joe.No, and like you know what, you

(47:14):
got some animals too. You have one and then you got
another and I'm like, hold on, you post it on Instagram and
like this is really nice. Seeing the cat content is so
nice. I really do.
I I was one of those people where I didn't even think I
could get close to an animal because I was raised in a family
where like my dad was like, no, no pets.

(47:34):
I had a Guinea pig in a fish andthat's that's it.
But yeah, so right, I didn't, I didn't think that I could get
close to an animal like this. And I just, I love cats and it
became a problem when I first got them because I kept talking
about them in my videos. And I just said to myself, like,
girl, you got to stop talking about your cats.
I'm a little, I'm not going to lie.

(47:55):
No, honestly, it's good to be obsessed with your with your fur
children because they don't knowthat they are.
They know that they're loved, but they don't know that other
people are watching or listeningor whatever.
And it's like, y'all know y'all famous like.
Right, so cute. I love when I'm working and

(48:16):
they're just sitting next to me listening to me like talk to
myself and I just wonder what they think about me.
Real same. And then I realized a lot of
streamers and gamers, like a lotof us have animals like I just
joined the club. I mean, hey, it's it's a common
thing. We got animals galore in our
backgrounds. They just might be sitting in

(48:38):
our room. I feel like every everyone at
some point has like some type ofanimal.
What's It's a fish, Guinea pig, hamster, rabbit, dog, cat, bird.
You never know. Would you ever do a dog Cam with
Randy Joe? Like kind of like how Lil Sims
he has snapped? I would.

(48:59):
But The thing is, he moves so much, he doesn't stay in one
spot. That's the problem.
He'll weigh and then like go to a different spot and like
there's no point of. You're right, you're right.
I feel like with cats, cats, they sleep a lot like they
really do. And I don't know how that is
with dogs, like I don't know, two different.

(49:19):
They can sleep a lot but then also they like to be awake.
They're alert by almost every single thing that happens around
them. Like child, please calm down,
it's just the wind. It's just the wind.
Oh my gosh. I must have.
Oh my, Oh my gosh. I mean, honestly, I love that

(49:39):
you have cats because I, I know that cats have different like
routines and everything and like, you just got them not too
long ago. So like, how have they been
adjusting to the the new life? They've been really, really
good. It's, it's an adjustment, but
they've been really good. And you know, when you adopt
animals, you always run the riskof like, who was this cat before

(50:01):
I adopted them? And or who or the OR this dog?
You don't know their life beforeyou.
But we're at a point now where it just feels like they've
always been with me and only known me.
Yeah. Like, I'm so obsessed.
And I'm kind of guilty of now. I keep like, incorporating cats
in my Sims households because I'm so in love with my pets.

(50:25):
I'm adding them. Like I might go back to Brandt,
like the Hecky household and give them a cat instead or just
add them like a gun, Right. But yeah, they're adjusting.
It is different, though, becauseI have to actually, like stop
filming and stuff when they like, they're needy, they're
needy. They want to play.
You know, it's it's it's a lot. Yeah, it's.
Like I'm in the middle of recording but they don't

(50:48):
understand. But like hey, I'll stop and come
back. I'll have to remember.
Like what did I say before because I have no clue.
That is so real. That is so real.
Yeah. Like my cats are.
It's harder when they're around me when I'm filming than when my
kids, Like, my kids, I can say, hey, guys, like, I'm recording.
I'm doing this. Keep the noise down.
But your animals don't understand.

(51:11):
Yeah. And if I if I put them out my
room then they'll just try to open the door.
Yep. It's like it's like, OK, come on
in. I guess that's fine.
Right. Like, and I do it every time.
I'm like, all right, whatever. I'm just not recording today.
Yeah. And like, have you like,

(51:32):
obsessively, like, gone to the store and like this bought
things for them like that they just did not need?
The amount of clothes Randy Joe has is too much.
Like. Yes.
Like I think about several bandanas because like when he
gets groomed, he gets a new bandana, but then you go to like
Petco or whatever. We sometimes like we get his

(51:54):
food, but then we somehow end upwalking out with a shirt and I'm
like, he's going to have more clothes than me one day and
that's not good because I don't,I need to.
I don't want to share. No, literally we need to tell
people when you use our creator codes, just know that we're
spending it on our animals. We are buying like that.

(52:16):
Our money is going like now I get our cats.
Probably one of the more expensive brand foods then when
I first started. And then like they have a bunch
of cats are really picky so theyhave toys that they don't even
care about anymore. I have to rotate the toys so
that they're not bored of them. But yeah, like I feel you on

(52:39):
that 100%. Like I absolutely relate, but
except for the clothes because Ithink my cats would scratch me
if I tried to put them in clothes.
Or any kid just sits there and like OK, that's fine I guess
like. He's.
Doing his own thing, like he he's now just like chilling like
he's not here, but my parents are out.

(52:59):
But he recently like went to thevet and like he had to get some
teeth pulled because he's not doing well because I don't know
what happened in his past life. Like we got him.
He's like 2 1/2 years old. So it was like, oh, OK, this is
a little bit interesting. So I never know, like what his
how his teeth were taken care ofback then and and whatnot.

(53:19):
So it wasn't anything not like our our fault, the vet said and
fitness because I, we spoiled that child rotten at that point.
We wipe him down, we brush his teeth, We we do all the things.
And I. Love that.
And see, I'm trying to get to a point where we can brush our
cat's teeth. I ordered them toothbrushes from

(53:40):
Amazon. But yeah, like, I, you know,
cats and dogs are different. Like, the conversation is
starting to make me realize, like, I envy you.
I want to brush their teeth but they won't let me.
I usually so like what I do is because Randy Joe did not like
we have a brush. We have like yeah, yeah we have

(54:00):
like 2 brushes, 1's like the regular human one but for dogs
of course. And then we have like this
rubber one that you can like putthe, the toothpaste on and like,
we just gently like rub it on his teeth and like he'll, he'll
like lick it because it's on this like rubber thing.
And it smells really good for him.

(54:21):
Like it's like some type of likepeanut butter toothpaste,
whatever it's called. And then we, I was like this a
little bit too much. I don't, his mouth is not that
big. So I went to these, like these
wipes that I got, I think I got them from Petco or PetSmart, but
it's like these dental wipes foranimals.

(54:42):
And one side is like the brushing side and then the other
side is like that polishing side.
Only takes me like a couple of minutes.
He doesn't like it, but he lets me get in there at least.
You know what, I think I might try that because I've seen those
on Amazon and I would rather just open their mouth and just

(55:03):
like scrub then stick a forward object and do it.
I might try that. I like it.
I mean, I need to buy some more.I only have like 11 little thing
left, so I got to stock up at least, but it's helpful to have
at least four more on the road doing other things.

(55:24):
And I just don't want to use that toothbrush, even though I
use it every once in a while. But then also to he has his toys
and things and it's all laid outeverywhere like a literal
toddler. Like I got to pick up after you
this time. It's like.
That's fine. OK, no, literally it's like
having a baby. It is, it is so now that like

(55:45):
you have like 2 cats and the kids and the husband and the
whole thing. I mean, like, how do you like?
Like, what's your current morning routine like?
It's like now during the summer time or just like.
Just in general. So let's see, does Ocean have a

(56:09):
morning routine? I am the most organized,
unorganized person. I try to have a routine.
It's always going to start with coffee.
The cats wake me up. The thing about the cats is that
if I'm ever for having a day where I feel like I don't want
to work or I can't do this, I don't want to record, they wake
me up and they're like, I can't be depressed when I know, like I

(56:33):
can't lay in my bed all day and be depressed with them.
I have to get up and, and, and work.
And then I'm guilty of skipping breakfast because sometimes it's
just like having coffee. But now that it's summer, like I
make breakfast for my kids and then we do things.
I, I'm one of those moms where they have to like, read or work

(56:53):
on their workbooks before they play the game because they
really love Roblox. Oh, yes, yeah.
And they would stay on Roblox for hours if they could.
I have to take them off the game, and I've even tried to
play Roblox with them before because I, you know, they love
it and I want to understand why they love it so much.
The game looks atrocious to me, but I do love a good restaurant

(57:15):
tycoon session. Oh, yes, you know, So yeah, I do
that and then I film. I film whatever I have to do.
Like right now it's summer for my kids, so that's when I'm
filming. And then I get out, make lunch,
and we go about the rest of the day.
But typically the rest of the day is just family stuff in my
real life kind of stuff. So during the summer I only have

(57:38):
probably about a good four hoursto really work on channel stuff.
I don't know how I'm going to start streaming, but when
they're in school and it's a school year, I have, you know, a
good 7 hours to devote to work. Yeah, but I am guilty of having
days where I just couldn't get out of bed and I just couldn't
do anything. And it's crazy because now, now

(58:00):
that I have the cats, like, it'smaking me see like, life is so
short. And what we're doing, like what
we have is a blessing. People would kill to be in our
position to have this as a career choice.
And I don't need to waste it. You know what I mean?
Yeah. So I'm.
I'm up. I'm up ready to work.
And I'm not, you know, loafing around in bed.
And the cats kind of like, help me do that.

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It's weird you. I know I feel like once you have
like children or like animals, it's like, I've got to take care
of people. Like, oh, hold on, let me get
up. I mean, let me do some stuff.
Actually. It's definitely, it makes you
really think differently. It's like, OK, life is
definitely short. We got to take every moment and

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really appreciate it as much as we can and go about life with a
sense of joy, happiness and hopefully some positivity
because the outside can be scaryand the noise out there can be a
lot, but we got to find like that one pocket of sunshine that
keeps us going. Like you, you're a pocket of
sunshine on the Internet. Your whole brand is crying.

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I try. Seriously, I feel like, you
know, that's why I can't stop what I'm doing either.
I feel like when people see us, we could be a part of their day.
Like someone could lose a familymember and then hop in on a
stream because they just want tobe comforted.
Like, we can't take that for granted that people really are
like, they find comfort in US. And it's so weird, but I love

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that. I love that too.
I think that's like one of the best things about like, I think
for me that this year, I feel like this year is the year of
new beginnings, new excitements and really like taking it day by
day and living life on purpose, in purpose.
Right, exactly. And that's what my mom has

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always told me, like live life on purpose and purpose because
like, hey, you got to live life the way you want to live it, but
do it do it for you. Oh, I love Mama Spring.
I I that is so that is so good. And I I.
I feel that I really do. And because a lot of people see

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me, I think on the Internet and they probably think like, wow,
like you have it all together. Like there have been days where
I was sobbing before I filmed something because I've dealt
with so much personally. Like I had to really get my life
together. Like it's, it's crazy, you know,
like I am a real person. I have my own, you know, mental
things. But I'm so I'm at a really

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different place now spiritually as well.
And yeah, like I, I'm, I feel like I'm living on purpose and
in purpose. I love that.
Can you tell your mom that I like that quote?
Yeah, totally. She's so she's just like, very.
Wisdom. She has a lot of wisdom with
Yeah, exactly. Wisdom.

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And like, so wise and like, my dad is so wise and has a lot of
wisdom and I've learned so much as an adult because of my
parents. And.
I find like the older I get, themore I understand, like I didn't
know about a Roth IRA. I don't know what that was.
I thought that was like scary stuff.
AARP, like a couple of years ago.

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I thought that was for people who were like in their, I don't
know, fifties, 60s, but you can join at 18 and like, OK, I got
some benefits out of that, so. Right.
There were so many things I learned that it's like what we
learn as children from adults. We got to like write that stuff
down and like really take it andlike utilize that because it

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will help us better in our lives.
Whether we like it or not. It's going to help us.
And even like what we learned inschool, we always said it like
I'm not going to use math, I'm not going to use English, I'm
not going to use history. But look at us now, doing it
everyday. Unfortunately, it's kind of sad
because we now live in a world where like, we used to handwrite
our essays and now people are using ChatGPT.

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Oh, it's rough out. Here.
Right. But hey, I'm glad that we come
from a generation where we had to learn these skill sets like
we, we don't rely on technology.We do embrace it in some ways,
but we don't rely on it. Right, right.
And I think that's like the bestthing.
Like we don't rely on technology.
Like I could live without my phone for like several months

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and be perfectly fine. But since my job is social
media, I have to use my phone, which is always sad.
But you know, hey, what can we do?
I feel you on that because thereare so many times I wake up and
I'm just like, I just want to disconnect from the entire
world. I just want to unplug.
But you can't. You can't do that.
We, we don't, we can't do that. No, I wish.

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Like I mean, I record almost every I try to record every day
if I can. I might not upload every day,
but I record if I have like another me, I could just like I
have like, I don't know, like maybe a month worth of content
and I'm like, can you someone just edit it for me so I don't
have? To Oh my gosh.
I can go away for a month. That is the hard part, pre

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recording is so good but then when you have 8 videos to edit
it just feels like torture. Exactly.
I don't want to do anything. Right.
I'm like, no, Oh, that is so true.
Yeah it definitely is and like one day things will get faster
and better. I need to learn how to like not
yap for like 10,000 hours and just like get straight to the

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point so I can edit properly. I know it's so hard because I've
actually recorded videos before and if I'm yapping too much, if
I'm talking too much, I will scrap the entire recording and
re record it so that when I'm editing it's easier because I
know exactly what you mean. Like that's a lot of cuts but
and you don't want it too choppyeither.

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So I absolutely get that And it's just so funny because it's
therapeutic for us. Once we get a good flow going,
we can't help it, we just want to talk.
Exactly. It may not make sense, but it
helps. There you go.
Well, honestly, I feel like we have done a lot today with the

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podcast, but to leave it off on a good note, are there any
exciting plans or goals that youhave for 2025 or even 2026?
That's a good one. I kind of live life on the edge,
so I'm trying to train myself tohave goals.
Now that goes back to what I wastelling you like I stopped

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having goals for some reason. I'm just out here living, but
right now I well, I just hit 1000 followers on twitch.
Indeed, I did it so excited and I and I can I just like I don't
want to digress, but I love the noob feeling.
I love gaining and like not being comfortable.

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I love that I'm I'm I don't know, I'm accomplishing things
again, you know, like oh, I got a 1000 followers.
Granted, it's not 100K, but it's1001 thousand people follow like
it's not subscribers just followand I I love that.
I don't know, I'm I'm really excited.
So Twitch, we're going to, I want to Twitch stream every

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week, once a week, and then I also want to hit 150K on
YouTube. I like that goal and then
achieve all the things I believe.
Thank you. And I do want to add in that I,
I'm going to ask EA or whoever, whoever is in charge, I'm going

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to ask if I can do an infant's kit.
If we could manifest that, yes, that'd be kind of fun.
Put that out there into the universe.
Like once you say it, it's goingto happen.
It may not happen now, but it could happen in the future.
Exactly. So thank you so much for
allowing me to say my goals out loud because I think sometimes I
don't do that enough. Yeah.

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It's important to always manifest.
It's like you say, if you don't see it, create it.
Yes, there we go. That's the quote from the this
episode. Yes, if you don't see it, create
it and then manifest it for yourself.
But I do have some rapid fire questions actually that I think

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will be really fun. So most iconic childhood show.
Are you serious? OK.
If it's rapid fire, I'm just going to say Rugrats, period.
Good favorite Sims pack? Oh my gosh, how dare you do
this? Can I do 2?

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Can I do two seasons and growingtogether?
OK go to CC creator or must havemod.
Oh my gosh, I'm too nice. I love them all.
Wait, I'm I'm. I'm dropping stuff.

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OK, go to CC creator midnight tech careers.
Wait, no, is that a no? That's mod.
That's mod midnight tech for mods.
CC creator Sims trouble for here.
Oh gosh, I have too many. No rusty Sims.
Rusty Sims? CCI have a lot of clothes,
sorry. OK, OK, cool, cool, cool, cool,
cool. I like that.
I like that and the last one. Tea, coffee or water while

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gaming. Coffee.
I'm sorry. Good.
I'm a tea person, so hey. Beansie, but how?
But we need more water. That's bad.
We do we. Do we got to stay hydrated?
Hydration station. OK, next time I want to do rapid
fire questions like I want to shoot some at you because that

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was so fun. I felt like a game.
Yes, I love that. Well, I'm going to end the
recording and then like yap later if you want.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
Yeah, thank you so much, Ocean, for being on my podcast.
I really enjoyed it. I hope to have you again on

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another episode down the line. Yes, I'm so down.
Anytime you want to talk, I'm here.
Yes, any any time. Well, with that my friends.
Oh, actually a good thing. Where can people find you?
Oh, you can find me youtube.com Ocean Sims on

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twitchtwitch.tv/ocean Ocean Simsand honestly, just look at those
two places because I need to minimize my social media press.
I I I can only keep up with those two right now.
Well, that is good. Well, I will link everything in
the show notes down below. Thank you and I hope you all
have a really good fun day wherever you are in the world.

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You too. Bye.
Well my friends, that was the end of the episode with Ocean
Sims. I definitely enjoy talking with
her pretty much any day. But with this podcast, it was
very heartfelt and very inspiring and I hope you all got
some really good juicy Nuggets out of the episode.
I definitely did. But from her early days from The
Sims 1 to the cozy, story drivenlet's plays that she shares

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today, it's definitely clear herlove of the game runs deep.
And so does her connection with her community as she calls you
all her WAVY babies. So be sure to check Ocean's
content out on YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, all the
places if you haven't done so already.
And with all that being said, thank you all so much for
spending some time with us on the Hello Spring podcast for

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another week. But make sure you go ahead and
comment, rate and subscribe wherever you listen to your
podcast. And I will hear from you all
next time. Bye.