3: The Sims, Imposter Syndrome & Balancing Personal Life vs Online Life w/ OshinSims

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Hey everyone, so welcome back toanother episode of Hell's
spring. I am your host spring Sims or
Stephen, but for today's episode, is going to be an extra
special one because I have brought on a guest at this time
around because I think it's definitely important to get
another Insight from another point of view.
And so I've brought one ocean, Sims, who is a talented,

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down-to-earth content creator onYouTube and make Sims content.
But she's also a mother of threeand a wife.
And as a viewer, she has a very calming voice that draws you
into our confidence. And wanting to learn more about
her Sims playthrough, what she does, how she creates them, but
especially kind of relate to them as well.
So she is definitely the real deal.
And all of her links will be down below in the show notes

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below, so you can go check her out on YouTube and Twitter.
But either way, let's go ahead and hop into the episode ocean.
Thank you so much for being on my podcast today.
I'm so excited to be able to kind of just talk to you and
interview and just kind of just kind of play catch up on
everything. What's been happening with you
and the Sims and all that jazz? Yes, I'm so excited.

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I feel like I've been playing this podcast for so long that I
feel like you have such knowledge and like, Insight of
what? It's like being a content
creator, you know, a mom, a wifemaking videos every every single
day or to see doing it day to day life.
It's you just have a lot. I think people should hear about

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this on us. Lee.
Oh my God, I love that you focused on me being like a mom
and a wife because that is like my first main priorities in
life. So to for you to like
acknowledge that part just meansa lot to me.
Yeah, definitely because when I started this, like, idea of the
podcast like and just in general, I didn't want it to be

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like a dedicated Sims podcast, because once you box yourself
in, can't really get out and feel stuck.
And I think a lot of people should understand that we are.
Our real live human beings, and we have lives and set and we do
different things. Yeah, no problem.
The first thing I wanted to knowis, can you tell the listeners a

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little bit about yourself? Yeah, so my name is ocean Sims
but that's not my, a lot of people call me ocean but my real
name is Marissa. So not a lot of people know that
they just call me ocean, but I'mcool with this.
Y'all can keep calling me ocean and I I've been creating Since
2018. And yeah I'm a I'm a I'm

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nervous. Oh no.
You're all good. You're all good.
It's so hard to talk about myself because no one ever
really asked about me. I'd so hard.
I'm a mom of three boys and a wife have been married since
2014. I did everything backwards like,
you know, had kids then got married, then found my passion

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at a super you know, late part in life.
Yeah. I mean honestly.
I like that. That's what that's a story.
You like we have a story to you and that's awesome.
Thank you. Where did the be like name?
Ocean sounds like become to be like, how did you decide to name
at that? Oh my goodness.
So Jhene. Aiko is my favorite like artists

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and around like 2017. I went through this phase where
I like, I call it like my enlightening, like Enlightenment
type of phase, where I kind of found my truth and so I During
that phase I was like obsessed with the ocean because an ocean
is free flowing. It has depth but it's also also
has like shallow Waters and it'sit just flows everywhere and I

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just thought that was analogy ofwho I was at that time and so I
had like a YouTube a channel before where it was just about
me and myself and my kids and stuff like that.
And it was I put the name ocean wrist and I spelt it the way
ocean supposed to be spelt. Yeah, and the way that I kind of
came up with ocean, The way it'sspelled as you see it is because

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I'm super obsessed with Japaneseculture so I was like you know I
don't want my name to be just oceans them.
So I changed it. I changed the spelling but it's
still supposed to mean like ocean.
So essentially ocean, Sam. See that's really cool because
when you said Japanese culture I'm like yeah.
Looking at her Channel. Yeah, Escape.
Like she loved that Vibe. She's all here for it.

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Yes. And when I like, you know how
your name you have like Springs Sims, you have Urban I just
slapped Sims on the end of it and just I followed you guys as
lead. I was like, I'm just gonna put
Sims up there because that's yeah, it was the norm.
Yes, it was. I was like hmmm.
How can how can I make it so that you guys know that I placed
him. So I just left it up there with
ocean. Oh yeah.

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I was scrolling through the interwebs on Twitter because
that's pretty much where everyone's at and I was like
what was our first DM like oh was it because I Remember like
you asked me about like streaming me yes you for twitch
and I just said, twitch because Twitches easier it's more
relaxed and comfortable. Whereas like with YouTube it's

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like all your audience is there and they all know you and I feel
like it's kind of overwhelming when everyone knows you on one
platform whereas like you go to another platform some people
might know you but I feel like it's just more relaxed to me you
know that is that is a very Verytrue.
I remember I asked you because Iwanted to like dip into a bowl

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in a streaming when I actually did a twitch stream, it does, it
feels like Twitches for the Creator.
I don't know how to, you know what I mean?
And so I am, like, I am not at astreamer mindset right now
because it gives me a little bitof anxiety.
Like, how do you do it? I don't know how you do it.
Oh my gosh. It's it's a lot to me is

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definitely a lot to handle. I do have anxiety even before I
press the go life, but Every single time because I get so
anxious of like what's going to happen?
Yeah. Usually look this stream
technical issues in the midst ofstreaming and it kind of crazy
to kind of handle on the fly, right?
It's like it's live. Like my biggest fear was I think

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when I did my twitch stream, I think I said like one cursor and
I don't usually like hers and myvideos or anything like that,
and I just slipped up. It was like one of the small
ones, not anything crazy. And I was like, oh my God, this
is live. I can't do this anymore, I got
so. Very busy, you know, like it's
alive but I feel like once you get into it, like I love your
streams, I love them. I'm anxious at all, I played the

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extroverted card very well. I would say on on, like the
internet, but I'm a very introverted anxious person.
And I mean, I tell people that because I feel like a lot of
people can relate to it. And nothing's picture-perfect,
I'll nothing's really, you know,all happy Dori like there are
days where I'm just like, not feeling the best, or And I want

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to share that with people because I think it's just, it's
much easier than like, showing one side of a person saying all
things are good, nothing's really bad and people using
understand that, you know, stream, it's not that easy.
It's a definitely, a task that you have to handle.
Take it one step at a time and kind of play it by ear and kind
of learn as you go. That is so truthful that this

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feels like therapy. And I'm going to tell you why,
because I feel like I've built this image, right?
Where I am all about positivity.I am about those things and I'm
generally a happy person, but I like you said, we are human.
And so I do have bad days. I do have those days and because
I am extroverted online, but actually introverted IRL, like,

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in real life. I feel like I have to almost a
fake like that sadness, because I feel like if I put out how I
really feel or if I'm having an off day, it might not stand for
what my brand is, which is positivity, you know, Zen calm.
Peace. Nice.
And yeah that is a very, very true.
So to know that you feel the same way even when because

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you're like really really happy and you have such you like your
whole brand is just yellow. Happy sunlight.
I would never think you had an off day but I know that you you
do but yeah, it's like I think Iexpress how I feel on social
media like just Twitter but not in my videos because I feel like
I want to separate that because I wanted me to make sure that

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when people come to my channel, it's like a place.
They feel safe and you know happy or just want to have some
type of like relaxation down time where they don't have to
stress the entire time but twenties, like a whole other
story because that's a lot and it is is that's where I feel
like I am. And that's why I feel like on
Twitter. It's a definitely different
energy. I feel like when I go back on my

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YouTube channel and I look at mycomments and everything, it's
all positivity, it's all like good stuff and on my Twitter is
where I'm a little bit more expressive with like what's
going on. So yeah, I understand that
keeping the two separated. Yeah, I'm like was Twitter.
They have that same old messages, like what's happening.
And I think it kind of like inclined people to tell what's

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actually happening which kind ofa lot of people calling tangent
moat mainly me. I tend to tweet rant not
anymore. Since I deleted the app off of
my phone, right? See that's that's what I did
too. And I need to be more mindful.
I think of how I worry things because What are you only have a
certain amount of characters to say how you feel it can get

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really, you can pass your energyto people, just by expressing,
like, the kind of day you had like, I could be having a great
day and see that you had a terrible day.
And then all of a sudden I'm reminded that something terrible
happened and then that row it's just weird its energy and after
you know what I mean? Like yeah.
After deleting the app for my phone to, I was like I felt

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lighter. We talked about that a little
bit. Yeah, a little bit it's
definitely like. It feels Is much easier because
I know that we I treat it like along bunch of tweets about how I
was feeling and just like Twitter or just like social
media in general, is like very toxic because it's just that
side of like the internet that you don't really understand

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until like you kind of go deeperinto it but she don't want to
get into. I know it's like you don't even
want to go there Cod. I feel like I've yeah it's hard
and I think like the the state of the world right now is
effective it. So Much more because when I
first came to Twitter, even justsocial media in general, it was
so fun. Now I find myself not wanting to

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share as much of myself online anymore just because of the
Judgment that's out there the way that it's so like people can
quickly respond to you and have no one worries.
Like it's crazy to think like I'm so glad our parents like
what like imaginative our parents are raised during that
time, like my God, it's crazy. Like, I'm glad that we were

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young and and we enjoyed our childhood because a lot of A lot
of like children and everything to or in social media.
Now, she's the way the world is.Yeah, it is definitely scary
because, like, when I used to goout and stuff and like, why, why
does a five-year-old have an iPad?
I don't understand. They don't need it.
Look at all like that could havewaited.
It's it's so weird. It's like that's the generation.

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Yeah. It's like more of like norm.
And I think, nowadays, it's understandable.
I can now understand why they need certain things.
It's like the calm down. Be more like productive learning
is apps out there. Like it's so much more
convenient and more helpful I would say on the learning side
of things, the reason why they have these things.
So I agree. I see parents are the truth MVPs

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like you, your husband are doinggreat.
I mean, since you don't share a lot.
What? What you do, share, I think that
you are an amazing parent. Your husband's an amazing parent
will talk about this later but Ithink that from, I like, I think
you and your husband had a YouTube channel before.
Or we Hazard. Yeah, and we actually have a

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like we had a channel for together and now we have one
where we were gaming together and just doing like, you know,
silly stuff together. That's where I don't know if
you've seen it but it's called The Go Arcade.
And so that's where we're just kind of like playing games.
I'm a totally different person. I realized when I'm filming with
him, I am a completely differentperson.
And I just want to let anyone know that checks out that

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YouTube that I'm still me. But just, you know, like
different people bring out different sides of you.
Yeah, my best friend. That's my best.
You have great chemistry together.
It's like when I see you tomorrow, they look so
hammering. I feel so excited like, wait,
they look so amazing and doing so great.
But I remember that one up at that one video, I think it was

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cyberpunk or you are out very good, just out.
It was like, At first, I was like, I do not want you to post
that but then I thought, you know what, like I don't care
like ever said to not 101's thatbut I was so, Sleep.
Oh my goodness, it's all good. Human things, you fight.
Well, I did want to go back to the first impressions type of

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thing. I remember that.
Charlie and series, oh my God, Imiss her.
Wow, you remember. Yeah, I, you know, I did my
research and I I Adore that series like it was really good,
that means so much because that was actually like, I don't even
know where I can't. I watch a lot of Netflix and so

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I feel like Probably watch something and then I got it made
me inspired to create that LP and at the time, I really didn't
know what went into like contentcreation.
All of that stuff. I didn't understand like when
you create a story based LP likethat, it's hard work keeping up
with it. So I hate that, I let that go
but I love that that was inspired around the time.
I was watching you Fantasia, a lot of like of those like

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storytelling type of memories and you bring up Charlie.
And but I remember when I found you, you were playing like it,
jungle Adventures. Kay I'm out.
And you had those two siblings like they were like, yeah, like
I was inspired from all of that.When I create a Charlie, and I
don't even know what happened tothat series.
I started it. Maybe it's like, I start

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something and I get so paranoid and all of my head and then I
stopped things. I don't know why anymore.
I just I think I just stopped kind of doing the generic LPS
where either it's the story based, or fact-based.
I'm like, I need to have some type of idea.
Head where I continue on doing it and I can do it for a long
time, but I don't know, I think all the cities I've made.

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I've enjoyed every single last one of them but it was just like
something in that moment that I just didn't feel right.
But I think it was also on top of, like, me being in school,
which just did not help. Oh my God, I just stopped
everything completely. It's been like a year and a half
since I've done an actual, let'splay.
Oh my goodness. Do you think you would ever do
a? Let's play a gimmick.

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Do you think you would ever likeeven if it's not story-based?
Like Like how you did not sow Barry for a little bit?
Like, do you think you do a challenge or something?
Yeah, I think I'll like eventually come back and do
like, maybe challenges or something.
I mean, I'm working on like a Machinima right now, for my cats
and dogs, LP that I had so many years ago, and I didn't stop it.

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I just ended it where it needed to end, and I want to bring them
back because I'm kind of going back from like, their past to
the present of all the events that have happened since the
ending of the first season. Oh my goodness, you said cats
and dogs. You had a cats and dog LP.
And you're going to bring it back.
Uh-huh. Well I'm not going to name it
cats and dogs. It's so no, it's called the

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Larson life. I'm a Larson's.
Yeah, yes. Okay I'm gonna catch up like I'm
Gonna Learn. I'm just I think it's like thing
is I when I did videos back in the early days of YouTube like
back in the 2010, I made all these like different.
See Series. And then one at me and my

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friend, we had made a Sims 2 Machinima called.
Remember me, and is not based off of the actual movie, with
Robert Pattinson. Remember me?
It's like more. So following these two teenagers
ottoman, Tyler, which I still have the Sims 4 which is very
weird. It's been like, I don't know
like nine years or so, but wow, and it falls along these two

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teenagers, High School drama andI thought at the time Lee tube
and Sims was like All about teenage pregnancy drama
storytelling. It was it was just insane.
It went. And I think what me and my
friend wanted to do was like we wanted to kind of do that but
didn't want to make it so focused on all of that.

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Because if we can focus on one thing, it's like, it's not
really what you need and Autumn teenage pregnancy, she had two
kids. We didn't end up finishing, it
just because time constraints and schedules and stuff so we
just didn't finish it. But we were writing a book, it's
not even done. Is you guys?

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Do you still talk to this friend?
Like do they do you guys ever bring that up?
Like, no one time. It's been a while.
I think six years since I've last talk that person.
I mean, she was older than I am.So she was in high school.
I was like in junior high so it was like Edge different
schedule, difference, all that stuff.

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So it didn't really like fall through and again, but we were
Like it friends but you know heywe let that chapter rest and you
know, just move on but I still have that series near and dear
to my heart and I think that's what kind of made me.
Who I am today is like a Storyteller being able to share
these stories that are like the norm but not really the norm.

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I love that. That's what I want to get back
to you. Because I feel like, because the
actual platform on YouTube, withSims videos, has changed.
Like people are saying LPS, like, with storytelling aren't
and anymore, like some people are Saying that and I want to
get back to that like the creativity like actually sitting
down like I don't know really just taking the story level like
the storytelling to the next level.

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Like have you heard other peoplesay that that sense for LPS are
going out of style? Yeah as you know and I want to
just for the just for the sake of the error, like the era that
we yeah but I feel like we just need to go back to that side
because there's been so many like things out there on YouTube
with, like Sims. Why is that?

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So great. And when I hear like LPS are
dying like no, they're not, but I'm like, no, I wanna cry.
But somewhat kind of is, but it's not and back.
Then. I think I 2015 2016, there are
so many LPs that or so story based, which is LPS in general.
Like I remember watching it likeJen, I like actually later here
and her entire channel. It's just absolutely amazing.

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I yes, I remember like I think Cory Stark, I forget what the
name was but I remember the Ringstand.
I remember the formant. I just remember all those like
family or a Khloe. Khloe was.
That's what so good. Yes, I all of those were so
good. I feel like when I found like

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storytelling simmers like Urban and then like you to and being
tased, you like you guys actually cared about your Sims.
In a way that didn't make me feel crazy.
I was like, wow, they really care about their seems to really
tell their story. That was like intense, like
there's different. The storytelling, but when I
found you guys, I was like, oh my gosh.

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I think they really care about themselves and their lives and
their invested. I'm invested now I get so like
teary-eyed because when they getolder and like, oh, they're
gonna be gone soon and I'm gonnahave to tell the story that I'm
going to cry. And oh gosh, I'm just like I
take so many screenshots as my Sims because I don't want to
run, I don't want to forget those moments and their lives

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where they were first born or when they're taking their first
you know, steps into you. To adulthood.
I don't know. I'm such a key of that.
Yeah, I need to clean up my, my screenshot folder.
It's a mess. Oh, let's not talk about screen.
I need to, yeah, I need to purgebut like when I play challenges

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that the whole other story, I donot care about them because it's
just like I do not have time to deal with their needs when I'm
on a mission, didn't you see like the 300 baby challenges of
being crazy like that on Twitch like to?
Yeah, yeah. In handle that I could not
handle their needs. I was just mainly focused on
having all the babies and doing that and displaying it as I go

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cuz children in The Sims let alone.
Toddlers are just not ideal. No.
They're too much. They had too much.
Oh, that story base. I'm like, okay, I'm going to do
this and then do that. And then I'll be fine.
That's like I wish we had like aproper, like dedicated.

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Generations pack because that's what I personally need.
And all my storytelling gameplay, I've done like I need
to like a preschool and have like daycare and I need all that
stuff. That is literally what I feel
like, I feel like I know there'ssome people that don't really
need the family gameplay, or don't see it as an asset, but I

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feel like that's what drew me toThe Simpsons like to begin with.
Even at a young age that aspect of like, the things you can do
when your family and growing. Again, your If your family you
need those things that is a goalin itself to, you know what I
mean? Take care of your kids and
actually feel like you're fulfilling a life with him.
Like I played some Sims 3 generations because I never

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experienced Generations. The time when it came out and
what I loved was that you know, there was a focus even on the
adult seems like they could go through a midlife crisis.
Yeah. But that's a part of the, you
know, I want to feel those that I feel like that's what the Sims
4 is missing. Hmm?
Like what you say like Generations is your favorite
part of the Sims. I would say, Oh, you mean like

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The Sims as a whole? Well like kind of yeah?
Okay. Because if we're talking as a
whole, okay? So because I play generation
certainly like for the first time not too long ago like
probably like last year. No 2018 because again, my laptop
when the Sims 3 came out, I couldn't really play it.
Oh yeah. So yeah, so I love it and I

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appreciate it and people talk about it.
I like hands down. Give it You know, my utmost
respect but Sims 2, specificallySims 2 seasons and nightlife
that those are my babies. Mmm. 100%.
I agree it. Those are my babies.
Those are like Untouchable. Oh, 100%.

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Sims 2 hands down? Yeah.
One of the best things I've everplayed in my entire life.
I go back to it all the time, I play in Pleasant View but I
think that's a good also. The other thing what keeps Me
going, like, going back to the Sims is, of course, like Sims 2
is like, my o.g. - told you think that I've always played
and I'll go back to it no matterwhat, but I think it's like kind

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of what I lived and I played is why the reason why I keep going
back to the Sims 4 and I'm stillplaying it until it kind of
given it that sends you like character and personality that I
used to play. When I was younger, you know, I
agree with that because like, asmuch as I love the Sims 2, I
think because the Sims 4 is what's presently out eyes.
Uncle just like, I love the Sims2 for what it is, but I would be

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lying if I said, I didn't enjoy the Sims 4 because there are
ways you can make it fun. Like it's not a Sims 2 and it's
definitely not a Sims 3 but it'swhat it is.
And so yeah, like I like, for instance, one day I went back
and played Sims 2 and I forgot that we couldn't multitask and
Sims 2. Yeah, I forgot about that.
Yeah, and yeah, so I was like, you know, there are certain

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things in Sims 4 that I'm just used to now.
So, Oh, but I always appreciate,like the older games for what
they were. I love them.
But I'd like you said, I try to put that same Flair and
personality in the present day since.
Yeah, it's like that. Going back to the Sims 2.
I forget this like, small littledetails that I remember, but
don't look remember because I was so young them, like wait, we

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had all these little small little details that I didn't not
know, like I remember there was a to interactions that I
remember and I love besides that, when kids come home from
school from the Buster. Get off.
Look at the report card and of parent is home and they have a
good report card. Don't jump up and down with
excitement and go run to their parent.
The show them what they got or or like when a parent comes home

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from work and the kids at home the literally stop what they're
doing to go run to their parent and hug them like that.
I remember that yes it just melts my heart.
I just I love those small littledetails that we've had and I
think what makes the Sims 4 Sims4 is that.
It's like a fresh new game. It's a new era.

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It's a new way of playing life and you got to make it fun for
you and kind of discover your own like happy medium.
Yeah, I think that's exactly. That's exactly what it is.
I feel like the Sims 4 definitely gives the player I
think the most control. But that's not necessarily
always the best because sometimes we want, those
autonomous things like, you know, like the child jumping up

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and down and up and down to see the parent and yeah, you know,
given their report card just seeing that.
Happen autonomously. It's like we were playing life
but it was also it felt like they were really alive in that
world and when infants do anything it just felt like they
were actually alive and and since War it feels like we're,
we're essentially like almost like a god in a weird way.

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Like we control everything, it'slike pulling.
Yeah. And so I do miss like that
autonomous just reaction. And but like so I understand
what you mean. When you say Sims 4 is just a
new way of playing, that's just how.
Oh, the game is now. Yeah, yeah.
And I mean of course like there's mods and stuff out there
that kind of enhance it and makeit, you know, totally people say

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better or like tortoise different or just not helpful,
but I think was like, mods. It just it's not it's okay to
have but I think the ideas like sometimes you just don't need
mods for anything to just have fun.
Like, for me, I've been trying to play a little bit vanilla,
because you've been playing Vanilla some like, who I was
hoping. I would love if you post it more
of your vanilla game. I feel like that would be

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interesting because knocking youare like, you know, custom
content King. You are very.
I would love to see you just play with like no mods.
No CC know anything. I think that would be very
interesting. I would literally just watch
that for hours. Yeah.
Because I what I definitely wantto do it.
I don't know if I need to go back to my old save because

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there I have an old save, I do have an all vanilla save that
I've been playing for I would say about since dine out Came
out. Yeah.
And I posted here and there of them, they're called they lose.
So that's the last name. There are an Italian slashes
German family based in Windham Berg and I'm currently on

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generation four or five, I think.
And I haven't posted about them in so long just because there's
so many packs, me out and so many different things happening.
And then the show happened that I just couldn't really do it all
and like, I didn't lose interestin it, I just didn't really
know. What, how to I am going to
expand on to it because I think at the time, the vampire Pat

(27:47):
came out and I was like, always thinking how can I introduce
this pack into my family gameplay?
And I was like, wait what? What if like back in like the
1600s they were, you know, they had a vampire in the family and
kind of the generation of the fan pyre, like blood didn't run

(28:07):
the family until the most recentgeneration.
And that's your storytelling coming out.
You're like yeah Rising right there on the spot.
Yeah. Because like I mean I have it, I
have to Simard like as of the Empire and like the family
doesn't know and I think when the child got older there were
trying to figure out why does mychild burn in the sun?

(28:28):
Why does he did not like the light, why is he, you know,
doing all these different thingsthat his siblings don't do and
they had to go back to like their family books and look at
wait a minute back in the 1600s,we had a Empire in the film,
like our great-great great-great-grandfather was a
vampire. But how did like, like not not
passed down to like me or somebody else?

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But only this child. And so they like our kind of
going back and like, figuring out things how they can make it
better. So they're going to go talk to
Vlad and kind of get some insight, no way.
That means you. That means that you have to give
lab and a makeover. Oh, yeah.
Again cuz Yes again cuz, oh my God.

(29:10):
It's so interesting. And one thing that you said,
like, you know, you have to kindof think how you could
incorporate the vampires pack atthat time into, you know, your
you said dine out was kind of like where they originated from.
Yeah, yeah. So it's funny because I feel
that be sure to like, when I've had comes out, if I'm enjoying a
family, all of a sudden, something comes out, you really
feel the pressure to add the newpack and integrate it into your

(29:32):
current household like and yeah,that is very witty.
That is hard to do. It definitely is that is hard to
do. It's like if I'm like, I don't
even know how To make this work because I'm not particularly
like a big fan of Supernatural, like anything and The Sims like
The Sims 2. Vampires, not for me.
Sims 3. It was okay.

(29:53):
I enjoyed some of them, but, butSims 4.
I don't know, I just think we'lljust in general actually just
like Supernatural at all becauseit's just not the norm.
And it's that my plain style perse.
Say like I can be open to it andbe like, okay I'll check it out
but I think it's very evident. What are playing style?
As we like, you know, we just really love them.
You know realistic. Yeah but I do have to say the

(30:16):
Paranormal stuff packed though. Who did you like it?
I-i'm enjoyed it. I really love it.
I like it too. I, I'm not gonna lie.
I like speed ran through like, ran through it because I just
was so anxious to to understand why there's gameplay in the
stuff pack that really boggled my mind.
But when I actually played, I was like okay this is this is

(30:36):
cool, the lights flickering the effects, the sound effects were
trippy. Yeah, this very creepy because
the people were hinting things and stuff like that and I think
I did like the whole, I think what sold me was like the
backstory of like they like the whole idea of what the gods re
and phone, Hilda and tempura, the backstory, what sold me the

(30:57):
most, they knew I wanted to learn more about them and like
why is God re the way is, who's like this ever?
Tempura person. Why is she here?
Like, what's really going on? I kind of go deeper into it when
there's Really like no deeper meaning to it, but I love that
because I feel like we need moreof that.
Like for instance paranormal is obviously Supernatural to

(31:18):
strange a real game pack is Supernatural as well but because
it has such like a storyline kind of already invented that
type of game really makes it so that we can take it that extra
mile and like really like try tocome up with the grand idea, the
grand scheme of things, I reallywish they would do that with
more paddocks. Have a sweet, you know, even
with expansions of just a part of the pack always includes Type

(31:40):
of background some type of lure to it.
Oh yeah, definitely. I would love some lore.
And like just something that will sustain me long enough
where I can like go off onto my own and make it a thing.
Yeah, like build off of it. Yeah, so the next question I
wanted to ask, like, since you kind of said like, why you

(32:01):
started like making content likeme, Jen and like, you know,
Fantasia and everybody making Sims content like what really
sold you like to make Sims. Content because making YouTube
videos is like do literally anything and everything.
But like what really really madeyou want to make Sims content?
I kind of stick with it. I think what made me want to
stick with it is I love the feeling that I got one from

(32:23):
watching, you know, simmers likeyou guys and I love that, you
know, by myself playing the game.
I talk to myself anyway, like I'll be in my head and I'll be
like, yep, you're terrible. You're cheating on your wife.
Like, I'm talking out loud to myself anyway.
So I'm like, wow, if I can do this with other people and they
actually understand me because Before playing The Sims was
like, taboo. You didn't?

(32:43):
I never really talked about thatyou know with my friends in
school. No, one really did it.
I only met one girl that actually played The Sims also
and we vibed about that. But it was like, I kind of felt
embarrassed to say, oh yeah, I play Sims like no one did that
at the time and so I just wantedto share into like I wanted to
make someone feel the way that Ifelt.
When I watched your videos and and Antigua everyone, I wanted

(33:07):
to make people feel like that I want to share my stories and
Talk about it. I think the best part about
creating content is talking about it with the people, you
know? That's my favorite part.
Like, when people get immersed and what I have going on and
they give me suggestions like you should make this person do
this, it's really fun when you kind of can share your passion
with people in that way. So that's what that was like my

(33:29):
main reason why I just wanted togo for it that's good because I
think that's the kind of the same way of me growing up.
Like I wanted to be able to share like my passion for what
I'm Like just like in general and see what people think,
because, I think sharing is caring.
And I think people connect kind of somewhat relate to it in a
way of like, we all play Sims orwe kind of resonate with that

(33:52):
one story that they told, or that certain Sim looks like me
or something like that. And I think that's kind of what
makes the Simms Simms you know. Yeah.
I've like that's like the best part about it, too, because even
just watching other people, like, I realized that I became
more diverse than More, I put myself out there like diversity

(34:12):
is very important to me but you know when you first start
playing The Sims you don't really you aren't you're only
limited to a certain amount of ideas.
But when you see other people exploring certain stories and
certain storylines, it actually made me like less fearful to
explore that too. So it's like so interesting how
that works like just by watchingother people.
You just suddenly feel inspired in your own game, you know?

(34:35):
Yeah and I'm like getting inspiration or like, just
watching other people. It's definitely it makes Like
think a certain way and like, wow they told that story.
I think I can also tell that story to but in my own way
that's exactly. Yeah, Mmm.
Yeah, and I think what also comes down to like making
content just like in general or like just for The Sims, I think

(34:56):
it's hard sometimes to kind of think of new ideas and make new
content that's like you know, fresh and new and exciting and
just trying to figure out how you're going to upload and how
are you going to make you thumbnails and these Sims and
it's too. Only a lot.
What you see, like, you have hadstruggles, like, since making
YouTube videos, just like for Sims or just in general, other

(35:18):
definitely, I feel like I've struggled with knowing where I
fit in, what type of video, whattype of Creator?
Am I someone that does my reviews or am?
I someone that does it all mod reviews and gameplay and created
some videos and builds? You kind of feel like you have
to dip and Dabble into everything.
And then at some point, which iswhere I am now, you realize,
like you're not for everybody soif I'm not a builder, you know?

(35:40):
I Explore with building but I don't have to make that my
channel just because it's in right now so I kind of learned.
Yeah, I learned that way. Like just be yourself, make the
content you want to make and then I also struggle with
thumbnail Styles, like my thumbnail style would change.
Probably almost every three months almost to where, you
know, it's like unrecognizable, you're like, oh, I did that
thumbnail. That is not cute.

(36:01):
But yeah, it's like, you get better in time and I think the
best part about being a creators, you can keep
experimenting. And over time when you look back
at like those, your archives, Ofyour videos and how you change
your like wow, like being a Creator is being open to
Evolution. Like you have to change, you
have to change and accept that. You have to change and once I
did that but you have to be yourself.

(36:22):
But you have to in a way help meexplain this for me.
I know what I'm trying to say but can't explain it.
It's like in a way you have to be like yourself because when
you're not yourself, you like your True Light really doesn't
shine through your videos because No one wants to like be
someone like if you compare yourself to another person or

(36:44):
you compare yourself and you just want to be just like them.
Exactly? The way they are.
You're not really showing like who you really are and it's hard
to kind of it's just definitely hard to figure out how I'm at,
how you're going to do things. And I think once you kind of
take a step back and you kind ofrealize the situation of what's

(37:06):
going on with like your Channel or just yourself, you think
about, okay. I don't have to be like that
person. I don't have to do make, you
know, LP videos that I have made.
He's got what I want. Thank you.
Yeah. And I think it kind of boils
down to like impostor syndrome. Okay, I read this article, it's

(37:26):
like talks about like why I likeimposter syndrome like effects
successful people. And I read this thing at this
one quote, from this one person,it's from like, Mike Canaan,
Brooks is a co-founder of a software company and he An
impostor syndrome is feeling well, out of your depth yet.
I already enriched in a situation eternally Fillion.

(37:48):
You're not skilled enough. Experience enough or qualified
enough to justify being there, but you are there and you have
to figure out because we have tofigure it out because you can't
get out. It's more of a sensation of
getting away from something and the fear of being discovered.
Yeah, that definitely I feel like, we've all felt like that.
Like a, yeah, it's yeah. I feel that because like in a

(38:13):
way there's we go through life of making content of, we started
out like, you know, all good andyou know, it's ourselves and
we're doing our thing. But then I think the more that
we grow as a person, the more like things kind of get into our
head and we're like, is this whoI really am is who I really want
to be, do I have to be like thiscertain person?

(38:36):
But in reality, you really don'tbut I think our brains are just
like tell. It's something completely
different and I was a YouTube algorithm and like YouTube
Studio tells you a whole other thing, it makes you a my God, I
feel like it makes you feel, like, you have to be what sin
you have to do. What's trending?
You have to do you have to be what's in instead of just being

(38:59):
like, you know, keeping your authentic self?
I feel that on a whole nother level.
I feel like I am. I feel like I will never be able
to fully Escape imposter syndrome because I feel like
YouTube compares. You to yourself.
I mean it's bad enough that you're comparing yourself to
your peers. Yeah I'm here.
Is you to yourself? It tells you that this video did
great, but this one didn't and you may have like really been
proud of the video. You just did and it just didn't

(39:21):
do well. And that part is what gets me as
a Creator. I don't think I'll ever be able
to really Escape it for too long.
Feeling like I have to keep up or be trendy.
But recently though, I've just been kind of keeping my peace
and just doing what I feel is best because I feel like it's
most fulfilling as a Creator when you are proud of your work
like the A matter. But at the same time, they can't

(39:43):
matter all the time. Yeah, that's very true.
It's definitely hard because I deleted the YouTube studio app
off my phone and I hardly ever look at my analytics nowadays,
because the one thing that's kind of hard to, like, figure
out where you stand for your channel like what, where is like
your videos ranking? Like it, literally ranks your
videos from 1 to 10 and all these videos are doing so great

(40:07):
and you're doing awesome. Keep doing that same.
ENT and it's like, no, I don't want to be boxed in until like
that certain standard of contentwhere I had to be keeping like
making builds or, you know, justlike all that stuff.
Because when I look at mine, it's mainly just available or

(40:27):
like certain creative. Seems that have a very unique
idea of what I'm trying to do. And like there's one video that
it's still popular till this day.
That's on like number one hitting charts.
My channel. It's a Sims 3 family, build that
I made and again, back in 2017. And I'm thinking to myself, what

(40:50):
made that build. So good.
I mean Sims 3, probably, and suburban, and then also was
like, multiple bedrooms. But I think also what I kind of
did because I don't look back atthe video because my voice was a
whole other stores. When you look back at, when you
listen to videos, oh my My it's kind of crazy.

(41:12):
Honestly, when you think about it, but I think I look what kind
of resonated to people. I would say is that.
I'm assuming I told a story in that video of who liked who I
think what lived there and how they're all connected in a way I
think. I don't know.
But it was definitely a weird time back then where it was just

(41:32):
like oh just do this. Do that and it's like I can't
escape imposter syndrome either because it's like how Am I going
to do all these things? When one thing tells me one
thing and then another thing tells me another can I just be
myself and then I like YouTube says no I think you'd like if

(41:52):
you you know that there are people that are loyal and we'll
watch you and love you regardless but big major growth.
Sometimes you have to take yourself out of your element and
that's so uncomfortable. Because yeah it's like why can't
it just be the iso? And it's crazy because it's
almost like this. Is a therapy talking to you
about it because this is not something we can just talk about

(42:14):
with you know our friends or something like in real life.
Yeah like yeah Dad will know youcan't talk to your parents.
I do tell my parents some of this stuff but yeah, it's it's
crazy that you feel the same wayto the fact that you are like
bigger Creator and you are on Twitch as well.
And you don't even check your analytics.
Like I thought I was weird for doing that, but hearing that you

(42:36):
also just try not to look at it either.
Makes me feel like It actually makes me feel like I want to
create right now, like, actuallyfeel empowered by a sword that
you feel the same way that I feel when I login to YouTube.
Yeah, because like, I only look at it when it's like necessary.
If like if I need to check for something like for if I do a
sponsorship or whatever, I got alook into it and I'm okay, it

(42:59):
did this okay and sometimes it kind of hurts a little bit when
a video doesn't perform well when I gave it my all I want to
do a certain thing I like it's hard.
Look at these numbers and it tells you like, oh, these this
video did okay, you should not do it anymore or like when a
video perform. So well, it shoots confetti

(43:20):
makes you excited. And like this video is doing
really well for these certain reasons and it kind of makes you
like what really happened? Like what what really what's
going on here? Like that notifications.
Not go. Wow, is the content just boring?
Is it too long to shore? Like what is that?
And It kind of makes you not want to make that content

(43:42):
anymore and I think that's why Ithink a certain people said,
like, LPS are just dying in general, like, certain things
aren't dying because, like, YouTube goes into ways of, like,
back in, like, 20, like I don't know 2010 or whatever.
When I was a crime, it was all exaggeration.
Excitement, bubbly, kid-friendly, family-friendly.
All that stuff. And then like the second wave

(44:05):
happened where I was like gamingor Try not to figure yourself
out like we were all like an experimental phase of that side
of YouTube and then another wavehappened.
Where is this like a reoccurringthing of?
It's not saturation anymore but I think it's like also with the
fact that was like YouTube was it's always always going through

(44:25):
like waves of figuring out who you are, what you want to do and
how you're going to get there. And I think now with YouTube and
like all genres it's like just be your real Real authentic self
because that's what people act like.
You can't go wrong. If you were just absolutely back
against a wall you can't go wrong with being yourself.

(44:47):
And that advice is honestly reflected and I think my recent
like content for example. That's just how I've been moving
because everything's evolved thecommunity YouTube and
everything. And I know that as a mom and
wife, I'm so busy with that thatI can't even put all that energy
into figuring out what can make me grow faster.
So just by being myself, that's all.

(45:08):
I've been doing and I still see growth, you know, I'm not
shooting with growth, but the fact that I see a little bit at
a time still makes me feel good as a Creator and it makes me
feel happy just mentally. So I hundred percent agree with
that. Yeah.
And I was scrolling through Twitter and I found this tweet
that you said like back in like on the 20th of February, that my

(45:28):
confidence is a Creator. Comes for my new Theory.
I'm not for everyone but people that need me or will find me and
that always be good vibes and I Like that.
Like you just have a sense of relaxation and like depth to
like your content but I'll just like you see you in general.
At the way he tweet has like a sense of depth like a chore

(45:50):
meaning it's like it makes you really think you because I I
came across because I realized, you know, sometimes I try to, I
would try to be the more exuberant Creator.
Like, hey guys, you know what, we'll blah, you know, I would
try to do that and I would try to experiment with being more
enthusiastic try to make my videos shorter, trying.
Fit in again, putting myself in the box.

(46:10):
But I realized like there are people out here that need that
calm energy people out here thatjust want to turn on a video and
watch some relaxing gameplay. Like, just I need to stay true
to who I am and so know we may not be for everybody but the
people that need us will find usbecause I just feel like that's
how the universe works. Anyway, you know, so it what
goes around comes around, so I just feel like if I put that

(46:31):
energy out, then I'll get it back.
And on my actual YouTube channel, it is a good like
environment. Don't experience any hate.
I don't experience anything - I don't I mean it's almost like
this euphoric area on the internet.
I don't know if that's like the same for you on Twitch and
YouTube. It just feels like one that
actual platform it's just like the same people like like-minded

(46:52):
people. Yeah, I kind of get that because
like with twitch it's definitelya newfound platform for me.
I'm still learning as I go but it's like the same people that
show up there. Like we're all like minded
people and we all come for like the same thing like weather It's
like for The Sims are just more for me and mainly, it's just
like for me, which is so nice and reassuring to know that

(47:14):
people come for me and not for certain game.
I'm playing. Yeah.
And it's like you don't want to be like box yourself in but in
hindsight, like it's hard because when you're a Creator
but it's also simultaneously your business, you gotta like
still like make that same content more and more to like,
sustain yourself. But in reality, you don't want

(47:37):
to like Burn yourself out where you don't want to create any
more likely and that's like the important part and that's why
people like with you and a bunchof other swimmers that I watched
around the time when I first found Sims YouTube, to see you
guys, like, you guys are considered, like Legends like
like, oh, geez to me in this m is like whole realm.
So when I see you guys are producing content is still being

(47:58):
happy. Like that's what keeps me
moving. You know, seeing you not even
change but so much from when I first encountered.
Like when I first met you or spoke to you, But you know, you
haven't really changed that muchand it's just like, you know,
that shows me that I can be successful and I don't have to
really change that much about myself.
So I am I worried about it, you know, just do whatever, you

(48:20):
know? Yeah, I mean do what you have to
do to kind of grow experiment but don't take you out of you.
Yeah. Like you don't have to change
for a certain person or a certain type of like content or
anything. Like, just being yourself is
like literally enough totally. I still I said.
DeLand, like surprised that you still love the color.
Yellow, like I'm a Gemini, some of the cut.

(48:42):
My favorite color changes every,like, six months or so.
It's so, like, I changed my mind.
I've been loving blue for a while now.
So yeah, people should be proud of me every company to have been
loving them. Thank you.
That's why. I was like, you know what?
No Blues my favorite color, but you you've been like a yellow
lover since the day, I even cameacross your YouTube.

(49:04):
So like for me, I I like the color blue and I love yellow.
I think was yellow. It resonates more with like my
personality, like, who I am, because I come up, how you
seized. And I think with Pisces, that
look more on the creative side of things and, like experiment.
And I don't know, I think it's just what I resonate more with

(49:24):
your definitely. This sunflower of the Sims
Community. That's how you that you are.
That's what a lot of people say I'm like, oh, okay, I find it.
Funny me and you both like, havelike we both do a whole peace
sign thing. And so Oh, it's funny because I
just feel like you're like the like that.
Like the male version of me but you love yellow in your you

(49:46):
story-tell better than me to me you know there is no better than
me, I don't know about that. I mean you're starting is great
I'll always hype you up though because if it wasn't for you and
like you know other people I really don't think I'd be you
know creating content. Oh my eye I'm glad you're making

(50:06):
content because I mean it's I listen to you and like the
background because he have a very soothing and calming voice
that. It's like I feel Zen and I can
just not feel stress but I can still learn from at the
stressful situations of your Sims.
Was like, what's happening in that moment, but still like feel
relaxed, you know, I'm smiling. Super hard.

(50:32):
Thank you. You're welcome.
I just I think there's like whenpeople watch creators like
There's always a different things that stand out to them
for that crater reflect a certain content that they're
watching that they can kind of pinpoint the reason why they
watch similar reason why they kind of feel like they feel safe
and relaxed or certain like typeof emotion that they're feeling

(50:55):
at that moment that they can definitely Express to that set
Creator on social media or through the comments on YouTube
or on Twitch that it's definitely very nice and like
reassuring to know that people feel a certain way.
Yeah, I think like that's what makes you to purposeful for me
because I want to feel like, in some way, shape, or form.
I don't want to feel like I'm necessarily entertaining people

(51:16):
all the time. I do want to feel like I'm I'm
making someone's day a little bit better or something just
more purposeful than just being a content creator and, you know,
just entertaining. I don't want to just entertain.
I want a Vibe, you know. So I love that.
I love that. You said that because that's
very true. Yeah, I think the key thing is
just vibing and it's going aboutit with your day and just being

(51:37):
yourself. Self.
Yeah, well the next question I have is so this is about
personal versus online. Life is like from the outside
looking in. It looks like you have your life
all together and you're managingthings like perfectly fine with,
you know, being a mom and a wifeand a Content crime like that
Circle as a full-time job. Being a mom and a wife of the

(51:58):
full-time job. I would think it's like it's a
lot but like how do you manage it?
So so well like just how you manage it in general it's such a
good question because When I first started YouTube, I did not
manage it. Well, like I did not manage it
well, the way that I managed it.Well, now is I just have to
remember that at the very end ofthe day because sometimes online

(52:20):
life can consume our lives. Like, like how we talked about
before, we feel like we have to check our social platforms.
We feel like if we go too long without uploading people are
going to forget all about us andyou know, like I just you know
how it goes back to what we've been talking about this whole
time. I have to have that confidence
as a Creator to just know why I'm doing it.
And still Plays my family. First like I have a designated

(52:41):
time frame where I work on things and then I spend the rest
of that time with my kids because at the very end of the
day as much as I love my online presence and it love, love my
community, my kids, and my actual family, personal life
come first. And sometimes I think even as
creators, I think we forget to even go outside and get are
sometimes you know like we do. Yeah.
Do you do that? Like you ever have a period of

(53:02):
time where you just realized like you were really consumed
like yeah, 100%, every single day.
Terrible. Some like how do I how do you
like like I forget I'm like waitI need to go outside.
I haven't seen the sun in like five days.
So it's like I need to step awayfrom the computer and just like
talk to my family and like talk to my friends like whether I'm

(53:24):
like when it was safe going out and about or it's like just
talking to them on like this Corridor or whatever because we
sometimes forget that we don't always have to be like on we
have personalized we have to letyou know, maybe like yeah the
the relationship that We have soworried like maintaining like
there's a period of time. Well like recently even recently
just my experience like I realized that my online presence

(53:46):
was becoming too much like you know, I needed to step away and
at that point and again everything is assigned to me.
And so, you know, I had people in my life that I hadn't spoke
to you in like a couple days allhit me up like yesterday, they
ought, they text me, they calledme and it was so weird and
random. It was almost like the universe
was just like you have people that love you outside of all

(54:07):
this. You know, don't forget about
them because I'm the only in content creator in my family, me
and my husband were like the only content creators in our
families. So no one understands what we're
doing, you know? So, but like you said, you have
to maintain what's outside of that.
Yeah. Because when people understand,
it gets kind of confusing, and it feels like you're neglecting

(54:28):
them, but in reality, you're notreally neglecting you just, I
don't know. It's definitely hard to kind of
explain to certain people who somewhat don't understand, or
like, kind of understand but doesn't Really want to really
like understand it, you know, that's, that's the thing.
It's like, people think you're neglecting but it's like, gosh,
I'm not neglecting you. But by the time I'm done with
this video, I've used up all my personality and my voice that I

(54:50):
have no energy and it's like outof sight.
Out of mind. Yeah.
And like for me, I'm I'm the only content creator in my
family as well. With my mom makes content stuff
but like, I'm like the person who's like really like making
all this content on it almost every single platform and my
family doesn't really know. What I really do or like how I
do things like, they don't understand sometimes but I have

(55:12):
to explain to them and I explained it to them on like a
business side of things, becauseI think that's what they kind of
resonate more to of like what they've grown up to, and kind of
learned as they went. And I think when you kind of
talked them on a business standpoint, it's like, okay, it
makes sense. I make money from YouTube, make
money from twitch, make money from the Internet.

(55:33):
It's all pretty much the same thing.
But in like a different, like way of And that's, and that's so
true. Because I think people will see,
oh, he's playing video games andmaking money off of it.
That this is a dream job. But I realized very quickly that
this is work, like, no matter how you look at it, it's fun.
Yes, it has its perks where, youknow, grateful but it is work.

(55:53):
I mean it's work. It is definitely a lot of work,
it's not easy. And I think what people need to
know is that if they want to getinto like this space of the
internet, whether it's like gaming or anything, is that
don't go don't have the mindset of thinking.
Oh I'll just post a video. Get a million views.

(56:13):
All this money will come through.
I'll get all these sponsorships know you have to work for it.
It's like interacting with people, you know, you gotta, you
got to definitely be on social media and all the time, but, you
know, make sure you're like, Somewhere on socially with a
present and being known and likecollaborating and just like kind
of stepping out of your comfort zone.

(56:34):
To make yourself grow and successful.
And then I think that's why I for me, where I cannot put all
my eggs in one basket for YouTube where I could expand
myself out into other platforms like twitch or Tick Tock or
Instagram or having a podcast. That there's so many different
things that people can do to make themselves make themselves
successful. In a way that makes them feel

(56:56):
happy or where they can find themost Joy.
This is so it's, this is such a good conversation to have.
I feel like, it's so relevant toeveryone.
Even if you aren't a content creator and you just want to
become a content creator, like this conversation is so
necessary. I would love that.
Yeah, me too. I think that's why I started

(57:17):
this just because I think one I haven't seen my friends or talk
to my friends and a very long time but also I think it's Thing
that people don't really get to like see or hear because being a
Content area or just being a person General.
You only technically see like that one side of that person
like you see your best friend. You've been festering for like

(57:39):
so many years that you only see one side of them sometimes where
they don't really share all of their life.
What's going on? And I think when you kind of
talked about it, you kind of getmore of an understanding.
Or like so what you can like resonate to it or you can like
understand why they don't share things or why they do a certain

(58:01):
thing this way and not that way.And I think was this podcast.
It's like where people can listen to it.
Whether you know they've watchedyou or somebody else that they
can understand why your contentsthis way or you show yourself in
that in this type of light. Yeah, you know, I love that and
I think like, I don't know, I think there is like, a kind of

(58:22):
comfort just hearing like a morelike raw.
Version of what we try to explain and like a seven
sentence, tweaked. You know, we could say like Josh
like this YouTube analytics are this way, but we're explaining
why we feel that way and it justlike interesting, I agree.
Like I feel, I feel like I said,like even walking away from the
conversation, I feel like as a Creator, I feel, I don't know.

(58:43):
I feel like I want to create feel like I want to like record
a video right now and whatever Iwant.
You know what I mean? Like, it's nice to talk to your
peers. Yeah.
Because I've been We all can relate to it, because we do the
same thing and it's like, very reassuring to know that people
feel the same way or, like, somewhat similar to it that it's
like, oh, it all makes sense. Now, I don't have to feel this

(59:06):
way. My Epiphany, I'm like, oh, wow,
it's something stress. Like, I mean, I've had like
really stressful times where youjust feel so low and then you're
like, you know what, you gotta pick myself back up because of
people watching me, I have a jobto do.
I have have content to create, so I can't really sulk, can't
really feel bad for myself, you know, and it's it is, I never
thought to really even just talkabout this in depth like this

(59:29):
with my peers. So it's kind of cool to talk
about it with you. Yeah.
Saying. I feel more like relax and I
think these are like, they're your therapy sessions.
Like I remember I made a tweet saying, like doing this podcast
feels like I should be a parent as we said because yes, dr.
Seuss, like my old. I rather get the title and not

(59:51):
do all the school, you know. We don't want to put you through
school again. You you work too hard?
Hard. Mmm.
Six years of school. Oh no, that's a full-time job in
itself to school. Is it was I even explain that in
the second episode? I think, I don't know, just
because I think a lot of people don't understand, like I've said
it in videos, but I think not everyone watches the full length

(01:00:13):
of videos that I think with a podcast is easier to listen to
and kind of understood fully understand like how a person's
feeling and can Like again resonate with it, I believe that
too and I feel like you when youcan actually hear you can hear
the person's voice, you obviously have more time to say
how you feel and it resonates better than in a little short

(01:00:37):
tweet or something like that or in a video where like you said,
they may not even go to the end of the video where you're like,
spilling out your personal life it.
So yeah, this is such a good idea and I just love that you
finally like got around to starting your podcast.
Yeah. Me too like Would you like
African Ting your podcast? If it has changed owners, when

(01:00:59):
you use sent me the art for your, for the podcast and all of
a sudden, that's when that same question.
Popped in my mind like I am definitely open to it when I
have the time and I want to planit like as professionally as you
did. Like, before I was just like,
yeah, do podcast. I'll, I'll make a topic and
I'll, I'll just do a video or whatever, you know, but like to
see how serious you taking it, it's one like apple Spotify to I

(01:01:22):
think. Yeah, I made sure was Literally
everything. No, that's good.
Like because I think everyone liked has their own like
personal platform that they listen to it or read anything.
I'm like I want to make it widely known and like widely
spread as much as possible. I don't have, I don't care what
I have to go through. I will make the lengths just to

(01:01:43):
do it like the fact that it's onAudible of all places and that's
what my old that's why I was like, wow.
Like when you ask me that I'm like, you know, you doing this
inspired me to say, you know, ifthis is something I want to To
do, I want to do it the right way.
You know, I want to do it and really put everything into it
and and take it where you Takin it.
Like it's so professional. It's so exciting that I can't

(01:02:03):
wait to watch, you know, or listen to the episodes and
honestly I feel like it's so relaxing because you're not
watching something, you're just listening to it so I can like
fold clothes while I listen to you, talk about whatever, you
know. Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm excited to like I honestly Ithought of this idea like two
years ago and I was like, I'm going to do a podcast.

(01:02:25):
I think I'll just like, what yousee, like this just record it.
And, yeah, have a topic. And I think, at that time, I was
like, I don't really know and itwas like, kind of not really
excited for it at first, but I was excited.
And I've always had like wantingto launch it on my birthday
every year. And I was like, okay, I'm going
to do it this way and we'll do it that way.
But then things came up, like the show came up.

(01:02:47):
And then other YouTube, things came up, and I was just like,
too overwhelmed. I just couldn't do it.
And I think now was like, the time What you have like, I'm 25
and it's now like my 5-year typeof plan where I can see myself
doing this part probably longer than five years.
But it's like something that I wanted to have a concrete thing
that I can hold myself accountable to exactly.

(01:03:09):
And it's so cool that you say that like, you know, like with
your Five-Year Plan in that you just feel like the timing is
right. I guess I feel like, you know,
when you rush things or try to get things done, sometimes the
result isn't even what you envisioned.
So, like just from what you havealone, just right now.
It's like the timing is perfect 20/20 was horrible, 20:21.
You know, you're starting as you're starting a hello string

(01:03:31):
podcast and it's almost just like a breath of fresh air is I
feel like the timing is like Divine?
Yeah definitely it definitely was like this is a breath of
fresh air and like in a way it'sgoing to sound bad but in a way
I kind of glad that we were in quarantine you know I know
exactly what you mean for me. Yeah because I it feels good to
know that. I think I think we all everyone

(01:03:52):
in general. Just need like a way to like
this. Step back guys, like it's kind
of bad that some people like lost her job and stuff like that
and things happen. But I think people need it that
bright of like nothing is not holding them like accountable to
like a job or or a certain project and I think it gave us
at that time to just realize what we wanted to do, how we

(01:04:14):
wanted to do things and so many people started a podcast launch,
the business or moved, or had a baby, or I got married, like it,
there's so many Great accomplishments that people have
done. Sent in quarantine and I think
we've learned so much of what wecan do with restriction.
That is so true because as a wife and mom well he linked

(01:04:35):
content creator, I realized how much again, everything that we
talked about was put into perspective and I gain Clarity
from being in quarantine. So there were Pros like, you
know, my husband works from homenow which is like, you know, a
blessing and itself and I feel like I'm more together with my
family and I think that's why I even still create restrictions
on how Often I upload on YouTubeand how often I'm in that world

(01:04:58):
and realm because of the state of the world.
So, yeah, like things have happened that aren't really that
fair, but then there's like you said with restrictions and
stuff. It made, you focus, it made you
think like it just made. You have that Solitude that
isolation made you either in, probably either made some people
sink or swim. And at the end of the day,

(01:05:18):
everyone, you know, of course, will end up swimming and
floating to the top, but it definitely put me and they put
my life in perspective. Oh yeah, definitely because
like, honestly, I'm kind of gladthat I've graduated before.
Things got a little bit worse and healthy thinking to myself,
like, oh my goodness, like thinking back to the kids.

(01:05:39):
Like I used to work for Americorps and my mom worked for
Americorps to and she had to like tutor these kids virtually.
I'm like what is going on? And I forgot how was kids like
your kids are going to school like part-time like we're like
In-person part-time and online the other time or like all
online. I feel like it's so hard to kind

(01:06:01):
of like, help those so see because I don't really share
like my private life with my kids and stuff.
Yeah, one line. But sometimes, I wish people
could understand like I am juggling so many titles at once,
like, it is so hard because I had to be a teacher like last
March, like, all of a sudden, I'm a teacher now because I have
to, you know, they can't learn as much doing things virtually.

(01:06:23):
That's not how anyone grew up, you know.
The first for them to. So it's I love that you put that
empathy with like you know the kids because yeah, like this is
not something that they're used to either and so it definitely
put pressure on me. It's hard for them.
It's so sad. It is I feel like I feel so bad
for them because like I always say, kids are the future,

(01:06:44):
they're here to learn and grow and try new things and
experiment with things that theyhaven't done before.
And I think what came easy to them, nowadays is like new New
wave of technology that they're already when they're first born
they're already like oh I undertake I understand
technology, easy peasy. Lemon squeezy and I think, I

(01:07:04):
think what it was hard for them is that it was different and
they were used to like seeing people, but then like they're
seeing it seeing them through a screen.
But all the time and that's hardactually limit my kids screen
time, because being that, like I'm a gamer, like, not going to
buy my kids are like spoiled with games because their dad
gets them, all the game soon. And everything.

(01:07:25):
And so I have to like we had to limit their screen time because,
you know, we're like the cool parents that are like oh gosh
you know, I know you had virtuallearning today but yeah, you can
play your game, you know, right after school.
It's we have to restrict them like that's a lot of screen
time, which will learning and you know they want to watch TV.
They want to play games, even dothat.
I have to restrict all that. Yeah I think the key thing is
definitely restricting yourself with like screens or anything

(01:07:49):
because I think the more you're on something the less time you
have for another thing. And I think because technology
is weird. Technology is crazy and we're on
it all the time and I think we have to definitely 100% limit
yourself. Like you said, and I have a
limiter on my phone. Thank you kind of shuts down all

(01:08:10):
the apps to like go off or like have like limited features where
I can't use them at a certain time and it feels so good.
It's so good. I turn on like oh my iPhone.
Like it'll tell me how much screen time I had like each
week. I The end of each week.
And if I see it like risen, or whatever, for whatever reason
I'm like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I need to, I need to put

(01:08:30):
my phone down during this time of day.
Like I did as who I thought thatI was see, it's so funny because
I always feel so, like, cheesy. I just feel like, so, like,
cheesy doing stuff like that, like, restricting myself.
So I don't really talk about it,but you do it too.
So it's kind of like, like, yeah, I'm not alone again.
Yeah, I have to do that, too. Because I'm not someone that can

(01:08:50):
remember. Like, I tell myself, don't check
your phone. I'm gonna end up.
Probably doing it. Out of Habitual Behavior.
Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah, like we share something so
important. I checked my phone and I looked
at what my percentage was like, work.
Like my time, it wasn't on an average of like, three hours and
two minutes. Like, that's absolutely insane.

(01:09:13):
That's like throughout the week.Yeah, average.
That is a lot, but the thing is,I checked each day and I was
like one Pacific day that I had.Out that week on Twitter, six
hours throughout the day, that'sabsolutely insane.

(01:09:33):
I literally do not know what happened, but since leaving the
app off my phone and certain apps off my phone, it's become a
lot better shape. The time should be lower.
Yeah, you know, they go. Oh my God, it's crazy.
Because I don't I guess in that sense.
I'm kind of glad I have kids because it kind of like
automatically keeps me off the phone at certain times the days
because it was used to be reallybad.

(01:09:54):
Like Like like I I can't talk. I don't judge you because I used
to be on my phone a lot. Dude, I got my first phone.
I was in sixth grade and that's when the addiction started my
addiction started. When I got my Blackberry at the
time like blackberries or were like in and I could not stop
messaging people. I was more so like a

(01:10:15):
communicator than like a smartphone user.
Like I really loved hexing for some reason.
I don't know why I like the textall the time now.
I don't do it anymore. No, I realized I don't really
like the tags and sometimes I don't even like to call people.
I, it's bad man, I guess it's like the life is going through
waves of. We start one thing and the and

(01:10:36):
then we go to another wave and then another wave is like and
what is life right now? Look, when we go crazy, when we
get out this calling to make a pact to make sure we check on
our loved ones and maintain our personal life.
Oh mostly even with 100 cents, starting to pack right now.
The other question is, how do you feel about the Sims

(01:10:59):
Community? This could literally be a
podcast and it, this could literally be an episode and it
felt that question alone. No, right.
I, I think the seems Community. My honest opinion.
I think this seems Community is a full of passionate overly

(01:11:19):
passionate people. It's beautiful, but also
destructive and itself. Yeah.
It's it's the passion. It's the passion.
It's it's so hard to explain. We, there's different size to
The Sims community. So you have first and foremost
everyone in the community is passionate but you have two
sides. And I think what side you're on

(01:11:40):
says, how that experience in thecommunity will be for you?
And so there are you know, different sections of the
community that you don't fit in and we'll never fit in and you
don't Vibe with them and it's just the reality of it.
But then, For the majority, likethe other side of the Sims
Community. It's Again, full of pie at the
very end of the day, everyone's passion about this game for

(01:12:01):
different reasons. Sometimes people take their
bikes and, you know, to be constructive, others are just
really angry and, and rightfully, so it's like, I
understand it. Yeah.
They feel, you know, but I keep to a certain part of it because
I know where I stand. So it's just the experience.
You make it whoever, you know, the seems to me again as a
whole. It's just this, it's full of

(01:12:21):
passionate fiery beings in different ways shapes and forms,
you Have your, you know, you're quiet people.
You people that only talk about Sims of people that are fighting
big issues and being the voice, even for the community there,
it's just a passionate extremelypassionate Community, you know,
it is, it definitely is very passionate for 21 years, strong.

(01:12:42):
We're very passionate about learning everything and we are
21 years. Strong, we are passionate.
I mean, I see even when I love, like, seeing the constructive
criticism, because there are things that people will point
out. That I'd never realized or felt
like I was missing and then theysay something and I'm like, oh
wow, that is true. But how we all use our platform.
I feel like doesn't Define the social doesn't Define The Sims

(01:13:04):
Community, like, The Sims Community is, it's an awesome
Community, but the way that someof some people use their social
platform may not be so pleasant to me all the time.
Yeah, I think that's why I definitely kind of delete things
off my phone. Me, for those certain reasons
you have to protect your PC. You yeah, definitely.

(01:13:26):
It's like something that we definitely people need to do
more often. I would say because the more you
kind of again, restrict yourselfthe better.
Yeah, it's crazy because it wasn't even always like that.
I don't know if it's because we are in the state of the world
that it makes people think more about the issues that, you know,
have always mattered to them. But it may it fires up the mass,

(01:13:48):
like the masses, it like fires up, everyone like I could not
care that we don't have cars in someone.
Get up and suddenly have like God, we really do need cars.
You know, it's so weird. Yeah.
It's Just Energy at the bunch ofenergy energy that sometimes we
need and don't need some time. Yeah but again I'd like it
depends on like what side you stand on and all that stuff but

(01:14:11):
it's really makes you think. Yeah.
That's why I think it's cool like friends and someone like
you your you maintain your who you are and like you know your
brand and what you stand for youknow, you don't get too caught
up. In your surroundings and I think
because I am like a sponge, I'm a very palpable.
Like sometimes I feel like I getcaught up sometimes in things

(01:14:33):
that I don't even really need tosay anything on, you know, like
some, It's Just Energy and it's because again, I am a very like,
I'm a sponge, I absorb everything.
It's so bad. I used to be like that but now
I'm like, okay, what's next? See, that's that's what I need,
I think over time I've just learned what to like.
I mean, like I care about a lot of things, but I think I've

(01:14:54):
learned to like, You're about things that are more important
to me and what I think is something that I feel like I
need to share to people, right? And it's kind of boys down to,
like, just like, just like in gym, like of like, how I grew
up. And I also just like in making
videos for, like, nearly a decade that I think it's, I've

(01:15:15):
learned to do certain things a different way than, like,
certain way that people expect me to say.
Well, the last question before the rapid fire questions,
Students. Hmm, what are your tips for
beginners wanting to get into creating content on YouTube?
Like, it could be Sims or it could just be just in general, I

(01:15:37):
think we like, I think we spoke about all that.
Like, we gave so many so much, good advice, but truthfully, no,
I'm just kidding. We being yourself, really
starting off and creating because you want to and because
you're passionate about what you're creating it can't be for
gain, you know, I didn't go, I did not come into use.
Tube thinking like like you said, like, oh I'm gonna make
money, I'm going to get this andthat when you do that, your

(01:15:59):
results kind of show that you have, you know what I mean?
You have to be passionate, you have to really love what you're
doing because it's going to makeyou consistent.
If you enjoy it, you'll be consistent.
Consistency is a huge part of your growth and roast them know,
and then being being yourself, whatever that is and stand in
your truth. Like Urban Sims.
I was, I was like me and her were always talking because I

(01:16:21):
was so confused with YouTube. I was so like I bothered her
with all my heart. Security's shout-out to you Jane
if you ever listen to this. But you know, have some type of
Confidant, you know, reach out to your peers is so that's why I
bring her up, you know, reach out to your peers when I reached
out to you. I was like, you know, hey, I was
going off on a whim. I didn't know if you were going
to answer now, but I was like, hey, I need some streaming help

(01:16:42):
in just try because you might come across someone that is
actually like, hey, let me give this person a chance, you know,
and let me help them. So I was, I'm always grateful
for that. So, yeah, like Network become,
you know, be acquainted with thepeople that you're working.
Around essentially. And yeah.
Yeah, I think that's that's likemy two best.
That's like my best advice, I think.
And then being yourself like, what makes you different.

(01:17:02):
I was when I was like creating things, I didn't really want to
be the same as everyone else because I don't want to copy
anyone and I wanted to be myself.
So when you do something that's really different, you know, just
how can you inspire the people? Like what can you bring to
YouTube that we haven't seen already, right?
Exactly. Like, just again, what makes you
like? What makes you different
definitely likes? Like do things that but you

(01:17:24):
Enjoy making, what you think? What the stand you out from the
crowd that you would make peopleexcited to watch your videos or
just literally anything like it just make content for the sake
of, not just for Content, but make content for you and for
yourself and people will eventually resonate with that
because there's been videos thatI've seen from people that I

(01:17:45):
didn't even know, because it stand it stand out to me, but
also the YouTube algorithm picked it up in, like, oh, I see
all these things, but then I hopon Twitter and I See, all these
amazing creators and like they're doing so well, why don't
people watch them more? But I think the key thing is
that definitely being yourself is like being yourself being
consistent and like, show your true light that will stand you

(01:18:09):
out from the crowd. Yeah.
And I thought I definitely believe like I'm a firm believer
in like whatever you put out in the universe.
You will most definitely receiveit back in some way shape or
form. So yeah like don't give up, just
keep doing all the things. We just listed and I feel like
those are like the keys to success.
I feel like when you don't even expect success, you like get it.

(01:18:30):
It's weird. Yeah, it's definitely very
weird. I don't understand it.
I'm just like going with the flow at this point of like
making videos and like it's going to go as I please and see
what happens and hope for the best.
Yeah, you know, and then when you, when you see like a little
bit of growth and that's where the, the business mindset comes
in, you're like, all right, how can I take it to the next level
and always do the same things that we just mentioned, like not

(01:18:53):
too long ago? So So yeah.
Well I have some rapid fire questions.
This first one might not be rapid fire, but I always ask is
access for my guests. What's the best life?
Advice you've gotten? I have gotten a lot of Life
advice, especially for my dad. I have a lot of Life, advice.
If we ever have another episode of this podcast, you have to ask

(01:19:15):
me that question again, because I might say something different,
but off the top of my head rightnow, the only thing I can think
of is when my dad told me a longtime ago, choose your friends,
Don't let your friends choose you and so it's almost like,
watch The Company. You Keep who you're around.
Also represent you, you know, choose who you're around.
They don't let people choose youbecause when I was in high
school, I was so easy and fluentlike influenced and, you know,

(01:19:38):
you don't want to that goes backto creating, you know what I
mean? Choose who you network with
choose who you're friends with, you know, if you don't hang out
in a bad crowd kind of thing, you know?
Like yeah because who you're around like you are who you are
around. Sometimes people think that If
you're a part of this one group that you stand, you have the
same beliefs that they have, andthat may not be the case.

(01:19:59):
So choose your friends, don't let them choose.
You don't let them kind of like identify you and what you do,
choose the company that you keep.
That's just off the top of my head, though.
That's some really good life advice.
I can honestly very good. Oh man, I can see where you kind
of get the inspiration. The depth the relaxation,

(01:20:19):
zen-like knowledgeable side, that's what I think.
Yeah, and there's one We're heroics and the Rocky movie
Rocky Balboa. He says, it's not how many
times? It's not about how many times
you get knocked down. It's about how many times you
get back up. I use that till this day.
Oh that's a good one. I love rock you do?
Yeah, goodness. I gotta go back and watch like

(01:20:41):
the movies and stuff and everything back that you love
this movie. When I tell people, that's my
favorite movie. They're like, oh okay, Rocky
sure. And you love that, like, look at
it, like it has like some, like I always look at, Movies, as
like a deeper like they have took a deeper meaning to it.
Like, it's like the general story, but I feel like it's this
more to it. That I want to definitely learn
more about. So like it definitely resonates

(01:21:04):
with me two days. See, this is why we're friends.
What's your favorite music? Rip at this moment.
My favorite music group? Yeah.
Or like genre? Okay, let's do genres because if
I think a music group I'm too Uncle and all the way back to
like NSYNC, Backstreet Boys Jagged Edge.
I'm going all the way back Destiny's Child.

(01:21:24):
So, I don't know because I don'tlisten to like music group, but
I think genre wise, I love Lo-Fimusic.
Oh my gosh. Yes, say yeah.
Like that's that's something. I listen to every day.
Cooking, cleaning laundry. Driving my kids to school while
I'm editing videos. That's my genre.
Oh yes, do you listen to chill cow on my God?

(01:21:44):
Yes, and their aesthetic is so beautiful, like, sometimes, I
choose what I want to listen to based on the thumbnail.
Oh yeah, it's so relaxing. Like I could sleep to this day
at noon and me tight. Oh man, I left Joe Carroll I
did. Anyway, when you're not working,
what how do you spend? How do you like to spend your

(01:22:05):
time when I'm not working? I like to meet my kids, who,
like, to play games. Like, you know, sometimes I
watch like me. Watch movies together.
Me and my, like, we're watching Netflix.
I am on Pinterest because I'm someone that likes to, like,
save a bunch of recipes that I'll probably never meet, but I
like, For reference and save them.

(01:22:26):
And yeah I just kind of like chill to myself.
Sometimes I try to not even be on the screen like I don't know.
I just do Mom stuff to be honestwith you.
In short, I do Mom stuff laundry.
Hanging out with my kids, my husband.
That's it. I'm really boring life photo
Wyatt. But no, that's not really.
I would say it's a great life to.
So definitely just, you know, kind of wind down and hang out

(01:22:47):
with your family because family means everything to me.
I am a family person, family like person.
I love hanging out with a Parents a lot watching movie,
kids house, chilling out. When you you drop that video for
your, we both had the Black History Month.
Video opportunity that we did. When I washed yours, it was
inspired by your own family and you talk about your parents.

(01:23:09):
It's so fitting like it just knowing that those are the
people, I guess, essentially that in theory raised you, I
just I love that like I love that you had that close family.
Like I love that. That's your Dynamic.
Like you love hanging out with your parents because I love
helping out my dad. Yeah.
Because it's fun like me, my dadplay video games together and,
like, me and my mom. We just, we just talked a lot

(01:23:30):
and we just do everything basically.
I've been by your hip literally all my life and so it's like we
go to places, we do things together and like all of us
together, we all sit down at thecouch and watch movies or TV
shows. Like right now we are just like
every single Friday. We know it's Wanda Vision, you
know, it's lunch amazing. Okay.

(01:23:50):
So so we're just currently. Why are you like an only child
like, do you have any siblings? Yes.
Or no. I have, let's see.
I have four other siblings. I have four older brothers to my
mom's side and two on my dad's side.
But like the thing is, I only met one of them like that.
We I did not grow up with them. So so like we're all like a.

(01:24:14):
I would say a couple ended family in a way and I've only
met one of my brothers and Perfection know to my brothers
in person and it was who I have not met at all, I know it.
Look like I know they sound likeBelgian really like met them.
But one day when the world safe I'll be able to meet them one
day. But for the most part it was
because I was like, I literally was like it's the time like I

(01:24:37):
was going to invite them all they all said yes to my
graduation but then it just covid happen and it was just
weird so it didn't go as plannedbut that is for the most part
it's been pretty good. That's a quote that's yeah, see
because I figured that Its firstof all, it's crazy.
All the boys and your family cuzI have three boys don't even

(01:24:57):
know if I ever told you that boy.
So it's like I'm overruled here.So it's so funny that you just
have brothers and I have half siblings too.
So that's kind of interesting that was I never knew that about
you. I thought you were only tell ya.
I don't really share that part of my life anyway.
Just because like you know, savepeople like to express their
opinion about stuff and I was like just like in general, like

(01:25:19):
mm2, like to my mom's side. To my dad sighs.
So it's like, people think things and All that stuff in
like because I don't want my family to be torn up or anything
or just have people coming down my throat especially on
Facebook. Exactly.
Yeah, that's yeah. No, we don't want that.
That's why when you shared that with me, I'm like, oh my God, I

(01:25:40):
have half-siblings to, you know,obviously I'm like, you know,
they're my siblings, but I have half siblings to like it.
So essentially I grew up in the same environment where I kind of
felt like the only child becauseI wasn't really a yeah.
Like this is the same thing. It's the same thing.
Yeah, I told people I was the only child just because, you
know, was is located but also because like, I've the thing is

(01:26:01):
like, I've had my mom and my dadby my side, all my life, never
liked moved away, besides, like going to college for like that
one year and then came back. But like, I've always been by
there said, they've always had me and I think sometimes it's
kind of hard, but I also like, it's like that only-child
syndrome. Even though I wasn't an only
child, it's like I have only time.

(01:26:23):
So weird. You know, man.
And I was like, I feel so alone,my parents are never home, but
it was weird. See that's that's the topic for
another that that is a topic. That's cool.
Yeah. Yeah, that we got to definitely
talk about this in the night. I can literally ramble all day.

(01:26:44):
Same for the last question, though.
How do you define success as a good question?
Success to me, I definitely correlates with your happiness
and it has nothing nothing to dowith numbers.
It used to mean at ver, me back then.

(01:27:04):
It was about numbers like with anything, whether how much money
you had, how big your house was,you know, things like that.
But for me, I realized in life that I'm like, almost like this,
my family likes to call me like the hippie of the family success
for me is just having the bear like having what you need and
kind of flourishing and You know, like I might not have the

(01:27:26):
biggest house but I have a family and other people may not
have family, you know, I don't have the best car.
I don't have a million subscribers, I don't have it all
but at the same time I have it all.
Like, so success is just how happy your life is.
I didn't get it. I get it like at any given
moment and how happy and satisfied you are with what you
have. If you are if you can live a

(01:27:49):
life where you literally just live in that present moment,
your successful like you really have this piece.
Of Mind. Peace of mind is a form of
success to me. It really just has no, no
definition. I guess it's really just how
happy you are in your life at that present time.
Like, that's all I want. I think my, what I mean is like
success for me, is me getting toa point where only today

(01:28:09):
matters, you know. Yeah.
And that's good because I agree with you as well.
It definitely is like success islike when you were the happiest.
Yeah. It's like, you know what you
overcame, you know, no one's like.
Oh my God. I'm so successful because I was
really I had yesterday it's justlike I was sad but then I did
this and I got an, you know, I was happy again.
So it does like you're having isdoes play a role in your success

(01:28:33):
is like if you had money but youaren't happy that's not really
successful. You know.
So yeah I think that's what it means to me.
Actually I've never even thoughtabout like really what it means
to me. So explaining it now I'm like
wow I guess I am successful because I am happy and I'm like,
I am grateful for all. I have that's It's good.

(01:28:55):
Oh my gosh. Wow, this has been a definitely
a very like impactful. I would say very impactful
episode because this is episode 3.
You're like, you're like the first like guess that people
will here on the podcast. So wow, so much snow.
So what's episode 1 & 2? Just me just talking first guys.

(01:29:19):
Oh my gosh. Yeah excited because I was like
you were the first I reached outto that, I knew I went on the
podcast like, oh, I'll just I'llput ocean at episode 3 and then,
you know, the other ones down the line, of course.
And then kind of get into it andthen, because I think it's like
all where I wanted to do is like, researching all of them on

(01:29:40):
everybody and kind of pinpoint certain things that makes them
them, but also kind of kind of go deeper into that of what kind
of really happens and the kind of understand what people don't
get to see. See, you know of that know like
this has been so therapeutic. Okay, it is repeating.

(01:30:02):
Because even just right now, I needed again, everything happens
for a reason to me because I'm just so, like, everything's a
sign and having this conversation today, it's more
than just a podcast. It really, really was something
I needed to just talk about, youknow.
Yeah, so yeah, definitely. I agree.
So where can the listeners? Angel, you can find me at

(01:30:26):
youtube.com slash ocean systems.You can also find me on Twitter,
ocean, stems under square and those are my main things, just
find me on YouTube. YouTube is my safe haven.
So YouTube ocean. Sims.
Check me out. Awesome.
Well, thank you again, for beingon my podcast, talking with me,

(01:30:47):
and just definitely just supplying in just or, I don't
know. But like this giving like giving
so much. Knowledge that you have had like
over the years and use being a mom, a wife, just a person in
general and just just being you.So thank you.
You, thank you for having me. I literally like we had to do
this again. That was fun.

(01:31:07):
Well, this was fun. I mean, yeah, well I will see
you later, so I hope you all enjoyed today's episode was
ocean Sims. I definitely did.
I had a lot of fun. Just talking to her about
content creation, impostor syndrome.
Sims Community, The Sims, and general.
And being a mom, a wife and a content creator all at the same

(01:31:30):
time, but also kind of just playing catch-up to, because we
haven't really talked to each other in a very long time.
And I think it's definitely a way where we can relate on a
deep and personal level of how we're feeling but also how we
handle things in a new day and age of 20 21.
But we did say a few things towards the end of the episode
that I did want to do a bit of arecap that I find very, very

(01:31:52):
important for you. All to listen is That if you
want to get into the Creator, space of making content on
YouTube or any platform, whetherit's the for The Sims, or any
genre of content wise is to focus on being your true and
most authentic self. Because when you are yourself,
that's when your True Light, really shines, and allows you to
resonate better with your audience, and they can relate to

(01:32:13):
you, because everyone wants to see the real honest moments of
who you really are, how you makeyour content because no one's
perfect, no one wants to cookie cutter life.
I love things because that's notreally real.
But also consistency because consistency is key allowing you
to post content when you are themost happiest.

(01:32:34):
But also how we define success is, when you are the most
happiest in your life. And that really means a lot to
the both of us where we are somewhat similar in a way where
we find success in when we are the most happiest and we make
content, when we are the most happiest.
Because when we're not happy, wecan't really let our True Light.

(01:32:54):
A shine of who we are as a content creator, but also as a
person because we create our content based on our emotions,
but also based on how we're feeling and we want to make sure
that our space of YouTube is a place where people can feel safe
and relaxed and can definitely relate and resonate to it in any
shape or form. But that's kind of the thing

(01:33:16):
that I wanted to recap on you on.
And I think it's definitely veryimportant to definitely keep
that in mind that we are real people.
But we also have Lives that we'dlike to keep private sometimes.
But in all that being said, I dohope you all.
Definitely enjoyed today's episode as much as I did and
make sure you follow And subscribe to me on Spotify,
Apple podcast Google podcast or whatever.

(01:33:37):
Listen, your podcast and I will hear from you all next week.

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