January 7, 2025 • 17 mins
On this weeks episode of Parents Anonymous, a gushy Facebook post has a parent questioning their entire existence. Bribery is ALWAYS in the parenting toolkit. Plus a PA theme has started to emerge with parents ringing the emergency services, possibly wasting their time. Much to unpack.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
You're listening to another Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast
on the Gatagoul people of the Eur Nation. We pay
our respects to their elders past and present, and extend
that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Rate islander cultures.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hi, it's Anali's Todd here from this Glorious Mess, introducing
hot Pod Summer, one hundred hours of curated listening across
the Mummamere network, just for you to escape the chaos
and enjoy with the kids at home and the weather
warming up. We've got episodes of Parents' Anonymous to share.
(01:03):
Parents Anonymous is part game show, part church confessional. You
share your deepest parenting shame, and myself and Stacey Hicks
rate you, but the worst parenting wins the most points,
so really you can't lose. And if you want more,
there's a link in the show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Enjoy Parents Anonymous.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Welcome to this Glorious Mess.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm Analy's Todd, one brazzled ring master trying to tame
a two ring circus of hormonal preteens and barely keeping
this shit show on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
OW that sounds like a fun time. And I'm Stacey Hicks.
I'm the deputy editor here at Mama Meha and I
was a type A perfectionist and a control freak until
I had a toddler who now controls everything.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I would like more drama for your intro next. Oh sorry, feedback?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay, all right, welcome back to Parents Anonymous. It brought
to you by this glorious mess.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, and Parents Anonymous is part church confessional, part game show.
So it's where you tell us a story and get
the guilt of your chest and we give you made
up points based on just how juicy the stories are.
And there's no real method to our point system. It's
just based on vibes. Vibe check. Yeah, it's just a
vibe check with except last week I actually revealed one
(02:23):
of my own confessions and scored an eleven out of ten.
So clearly we're doing something wrong with the rating system. Yes,
because it was a good one.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It was my highest scoring system yet.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, and you're a tough marker.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Actually am Actually Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And if you missed the episode, we'll pop it in
the show notes. I had to maguiver in a situation
where I was busting for the actually, I'm not gonna
give it all away. You go back and listen to
the episode. But speaking about it in the office, it
obviously became big chatter here.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Any emojis ensued.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
What of our colleagues said to me, Oh, yeah, we've
all done it, have we?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't. I don't know if we have me.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I don't know if I haven't.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I have not didn't share it with the soul for
three years, so that tells me that we probably don't
like That's how deep the shame was. But maybe she
was just trying to make me feel better. It was
good that you released it, Yes, physically and metaphorically release
safe space.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Waiting for you to reveal one of your secrets now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, that will happen when you are least expecting it.
Stacy can't wait, and this show doesn't exist without your
guilty confession, So please leave us a voice note, or
if you want to be fully anonymous, let's see if
I've learnt to say, and we can protect your annomin note.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I can't stay an anominy to you.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Next week you can email us and we can read
it out for you and just have a look in
the show.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Notes for all of your confession options.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yes, last week I submitted my confession fully anonymously. Not
even our producer Grace or an Alice knew that it
was me, so proof that it works, no one will
ever know it's you. So to get us in the
mood for confessing, we're just going to throw out a
few of our little mini confessions to make you feel better,
to make you feel safe with us. You know, we
are hot messes. We do stuff all the time. We're terrible, terrible,
(04:10):
terrible and sufferable people.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So humans. Really, it's just a little warm up.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, these aren't too bad. But one of mine is
that when my daughter was at that point where there
about one or two where they just want to grab
everything that you have, and she used to be obsessed
with my phone.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Monkey see monkey do.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, well yeah, I'm not setting a grade room.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
She used to want to just grab it and slob
her all over it. So I used to sometimes pretend
I was reading a book, but really I had my
phone inside the book, so you were Wow, she wasn't
interested in my book.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So you were hiding your phone behind a book in
front of your child.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I regret nothing. It was great. Actually it's good.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And also it's better modeling.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Exactly pick up your book, girls, look at mummy, perfect example.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
That's actually genius. The modeling you well done.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And mine is a parenting strategy that I probably wouldn't recommend,
but look, it does work. I don't know if it's
potential trauma impacting to the children, but sometimes, because I'm
a single parent, so when my kids are really kicking
off and fighting and they're not listening to me and
I just can't get them to stop, sometime I will
just pretend to have a little.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Teary and say I can't, guys, I.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Can't, you know, I'll pretend to cry as a defense mechanism.
I imagine in the wild, in the jungle, like some
animals play dead.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It's like that. It's like just playing dead.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I can just imagine the beautiful little single tear trickling
down your cheek. I bet you can cry.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I feel like crying just now thinking about it. I'm
so well versed at it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Such a method, actress. I love it. So. On today's show,
we have three new mystery confessions that we haven't heard,
so we're hearing these for the very first time. And
this week. The names of them are. Bribery is always
on the cards, always correct. Did I waste emergency services time?
Oh god, another one of these?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Okay, sorry to our frontline workers. And am I missing something?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
My son was getting really nervous in soccer, and it
was in all honesty making him play badly. It was
and he didn't like the sport or I was forcing him.
He loved training. It was just the games where he
got really in his head. So after weeks of this,
I said, if you can kick one goal, I will.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Literally buy you anything. Anything's in all capitals.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My wife was not super supportive of this, as it
was just bribery, not encouragement, but I told him the bet.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Was still on a bet. It's interesting, you said, language
will unpack that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Anyway, he went out and played the best game and
kicked two goals. Sure it was straight up bribery, but
it got him out of his head. Say see, I
would argue, this is not bribery. This is recognition and
reward system exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
This is an achievement plan.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, we have to do this in work, we're measured
on metrics and results and success in primary school, high school, adult.
This is a realistic thing that we all have to
live by. Recently we had the Olympics, We've got the Paralympics.
This is gold medals. They're not just giving out participation medals.
It's gold, silver, and bronze. You are rewarded for excellence.
(07:36):
And I would argue that this is rewarding this soccer
player for excellence.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I love it. I am concerned by the use of
the word anything, yes, because I feel like kids, you
give them an inch, they will take a mile. I
would love to know what he ended up picking.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Same like you know, I'm just thinking a.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Robot, Yeah, like a like was it a PS five? Yes,
it would have been something like that, wouldn't it. And
two goals? Does that mean he got to pick two
things two of the same two ps fives. I feel
like you've got to put them some conditions in place
in these Cozi lefts dives.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, So for that, I think this is great. And
you know what people do stick a charts.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think this is the only the only thing here
is really just the use of the word anything yep
in these cause he lives times yep. So I would
say everything else in this is a parenting strategy.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Win I'm going to go eight soccer balls out of ten.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, I think that's fair. This is just positive reinforcement.
This is like, you know, every time the dog goes outside,
do we and you did?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Good boy?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
This is just that toilet training for soccer.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, exactly, love it, love it. I will give you
nine soccer balls out of ten.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I love it all right.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
All right, on to the next And the next one
is called did I waste emergency services time? And I
think if you're asking the question, the answer is probably yes.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's good self reflection though, that's yeah, first up.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, but here we go. One night, my child was
screaming like she was in a horrific pain. It was
scary and so full on. I thought something terrible was
going on to her internal organs. Oh, that's sorry, I
didn't mean to laugh. That's awful. I called an ambulance.
They arrived, all sirens and two paramedics. They diagnosed the
(09:22):
problem pretty quickly. Though. It was a night terror. Oh
oh look, my little one has night terrors. Sometimes it
is very dramatic. It does feel like a very scary thing.
In the middle of the night, when your child is screaming,
it's your worst fear as a mom that your child
(09:42):
is in pain. It's fight or flight, and you went
with fight. You went after right.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
To the emergency services system and come to my house
and reassure me.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know. Once actually I called the police because there
was four intruders in my backyard when I was eighteen.
It was first time having the whole house to myself.
My parents were away. It was four of my mates
that rocked up and thought it would be funny to
scare me, and three police cast And that's.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
A waste of emergency.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's just like we actually had one of our confessions
on an early episode. We'll share the link in our
show notes where someone actually staged a breaking into situation
to their children to see if they would call the police,
and they did. Now, that is a waste of time.
This is just probably a bit of over zealousy, first
time parenting, not knowing the signs.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You know what you could do.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
There's great phone numbers you can call before you call
the ambulance, I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Sure, but the worst thing would be if you didn't
call and then something horrible was happening. So I feel
like the fast response time you have to get a
few bonus points for that, you.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Know, and when it comes to health and safety, it's
better just to just call.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I just think you didn't waste their time. But now
you know about the night terrors. It's a learning but
I think it's okay. So for this one, we should
deduct points for it being just a night terror. But
I'm giving you some for being so quick and caring
about your kids. So I'm going to give you seven
(11:13):
nightmares out of ten.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'm gonna give you six ambulance as well.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think if this person or anyone.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Really feels some stress in the future, we can just
give you a little guided meditation. You can just come
back to episode yep, and you can just play it
and you can just immerse yourself.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Are you guiding this?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Are you that we can both guide week and birth guy?
You are doing a good job. Everything will be okay.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Children are said to try us. It is all okay.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And it's probably just a night terror. But you're not
a terrible parent.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You're a great parent. Actually you're a terrific parent. So okay,
that's enough of that. We hope you're sufficiently calm, and we've.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Got one more dilemma to bring it homestays coming up
after the All right, stay's last dilemma for today? Am
I missing something?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Bring it on?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I've been reading some friends Facebook posts recently about their kids,
and they read you are my whole world. All I
need is you, and you are my wildest dream come true.
My confession is that I don't feel this way about
my son, even though I love him very much.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I just wonder if these people are happier than I am,
and I wonder if they're lying.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
As a working mum, I've chosen to pursue a career
in addition to motherhood. I have dreams and a life
outside of my son. Motherhood is far from.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Magical, but it is good, the hardest job I'll ever love.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this
way right now.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
First of all, we just need to caveat.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
We are not opening the working and non working mother debate.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
We are not entering into that trope.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We are not kicking that can because we are all
about being united. It's not about working and not working.
It is about expressing your love publicly to the world
on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And I have thoughts.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
As much as you love your child. They're not on
your Facebook. No, why are you writing little love poems
to them on there? As if they can't read, they're
a bit stupid. Still, that is for you. This is
a love dedication for you. Look, it's lovely. We actually
shouldn't judge a bit. It's lovely that you love your child.
(14:05):
But sometimes I feel like those things are a bit
performative insufferable. Insufferable is the right word. We all love them.
We all love them, we also can't stand them sometimes
depending on the time of day. So absolutely fine that
you don't feel like your child is your whole world,
Like we're allowed to have interests and passions outside of them.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Definitely, what are you thinking? What are these thoughts? Well,
I mean I co parents, so if my kids more
my whole world, I would be miserable for fifty.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Of my time and I'd be wandering around the world aimlessly.
And I think it's actually really healthy to have things
outside your children.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I don't think you're alone. And also I think if
people really.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Do feel like that about the kids, that's okay as well.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Like I think good on you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like either way, if you feel like that, good and
if you don't, great do you know it? Want to
be a good use of time is if you wrote
these feelings down in a journal that you turned into
letters that you gave to your child that they could
read one day yep.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Or we have an email for our daughter, so anytime
we want to send her like a picture or write
a little thing, so on the eve of like a
birthday or something, we just send her a little email
on her email address and hope that will still exist
for her to look at when she's grown up. But
I just I think if you're writing that your childe
your whole world on your Facebook, you're lying say ha
(15:26):
ha ha, I've.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Never seen you so hard.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I'm so harsh today.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Very feisty, and I'm here I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, so the judging, I fully support you. I agree
they need to stop. It's annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Oh I mean I'm not quite as harsh as you today,
which is a first. I think that they don't need
to stop. They could channel this into a little journal
or email system, as we discussed, would be a more
productive use of their time. And then also it might
not make people who don't feel this way feel as
bad that they don't feel this way. So that's in
(16:03):
a nutshell. The email and journal love capturing system is
probably the preferred communication method moving forward for expressing love
for your children. But they didn't write into us. It
was the one who didn't feel this way. And it's
fine that you don't feel this way. So for that,
I'm giving you eight love journals out of ten.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I'm giving you nine Facebook posts out of ten. Good
on you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, So, reflecting on the three confessions from the day,
bribery is always on the cards, although we did declare
that wasn't bribery, that was recognition and reward. Confession two
did I waste emergency services time? We also declared that
you didn't waste emergency services time? And Confession three? Am
I missing something? No, you're not missing something. But out
(16:49):
of the three confessions, I can't even remember the scores
now we went.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
To be honest, we are so rogue with our scores.
I know that we probably canceled each other out. So
it's more of a vibe feeling. Which one's sticking with
us as the winner is the real question.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I really feel like Confession one, which we landed, was
not bribery.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
No, I think you're just a legend and you just
know how to parent correctly.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It was a recognition and reward system. They will set
them up to excel potentially in life.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, you're our winner. Confession No one.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Feshion one, non bribery is always on the cards.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
If you've got a confession, we would love to hear
from you. Please send us your secret shames. We can't
get enough of them. All the details are in the
show notes.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
See you next time, See you next time.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
If you're looking for something else to listen to, Mama
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There's a link in the show notes.
You're listening to another Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast
on the Gatagoul people of the Eur Nation. We pay
our respects to their elders past and present, and extend
that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Rate islander cultures.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hi, it's Anali's Todd here from this Glorious Mess, introducing
hot Pod Summer, one hundred hours of curated listening across
the Mummamere network, just for you to escape the chaos
and enjoy with the kids at home and the weather
warming up. We've got episodes of Parents' Anonymous to share.
(01:03):
Parents Anonymous is part game show, part church confessional. You
share your deepest parenting shame, and myself and Stacey Hicks
rate you, but the worst parenting wins the most points,
so really you can't lose. And if you want more,
there's a link in the show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Enjoy Parents Anonymous.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Welcome to this Glorious Mess.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm Analy's Todd, one brazzled ring master trying to tame
a two ring circus of hormonal preteens and barely keeping
this shit show on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
OW that sounds like a fun time. And I'm Stacey Hicks.
I'm the deputy editor here at Mama Meha and I
was a type A perfectionist and a control freak until
I had a toddler who now controls everything.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I would like more drama for your intro next. Oh sorry, feedback?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay, all right, welcome back to Parents Anonymous. It brought
to you by this glorious mess.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, and Parents Anonymous is part church confessional, part game show.
So it's where you tell us a story and get
the guilt of your chest and we give you made
up points based on just how juicy the stories are.
And there's no real method to our point system. It's
just based on vibes. Vibe check. Yeah, it's just a
vibe check with except last week I actually revealed one
(02:23):
of my own confessions and scored an eleven out of ten.
So clearly we're doing something wrong with the rating system. Yes,
because it was a good one.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It was my highest scoring system yet.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, and you're a tough marker.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Actually am Actually Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And if you missed the episode, we'll pop it in
the show notes. I had to maguiver in a situation
where I was busting for the actually, I'm not gonna
give it all away. You go back and listen to
the episode. But speaking about it in the office, it
obviously became big chatter here.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Any emojis ensued.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
What of our colleagues said to me, Oh, yeah, we've
all done it, have we?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't. I don't know if we have me.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I don't know if I haven't.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I have not didn't share it with the soul for
three years, so that tells me that we probably don't
like That's how deep the shame was. But maybe she
was just trying to make me feel better. It was
good that you released it, Yes, physically and metaphorically release
safe space.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Waiting for you to reveal one of your secrets now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, that will happen when you are least expecting it.
Stacy can't wait, and this show doesn't exist without your
guilty confession, So please leave us a voice note, or
if you want to be fully anonymous, let's see if
I've learnt to say, and we can protect your annomin note.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I can't stay an anominy to you.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Next week you can email us and we can read
it out for you and just have a look in
the show.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Notes for all of your confession options.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yes, last week I submitted my confession fully anonymously. Not
even our producer Grace or an Alice knew that it
was me, so proof that it works, no one will
ever know it's you. So to get us in the
mood for confessing, we're just going to throw out a
few of our little mini confessions to make you feel better,
to make you feel safe with us. You know, we
are hot messes. We do stuff all the time. We're terrible, terrible,
(04:10):
terrible and sufferable people.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So humans. Really, it's just a little warm up.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, these aren't too bad. But one of mine is
that when my daughter was at that point where there
about one or two where they just want to grab
everything that you have, and she used to be obsessed
with my phone.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Monkey see monkey do.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, well yeah, I'm not setting a grade room.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
She used to want to just grab it and slob
her all over it. So I used to sometimes pretend
I was reading a book, but really I had my
phone inside the book, so you were Wow, she wasn't
interested in my book.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So you were hiding your phone behind a book in
front of your child.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I regret nothing. It was great. Actually it's good.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And also it's better modeling.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Exactly pick up your book, girls, look at mummy, perfect example.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
That's actually genius. The modeling you well done.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And mine is a parenting strategy that I probably wouldn't recommend,
but look, it does work. I don't know if it's
potential trauma impacting to the children, but sometimes, because I'm
a single parent, so when my kids are really kicking
off and fighting and they're not listening to me and
I just can't get them to stop, sometime I will
just pretend to have a little.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Teary and say I can't, guys, I.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Can't, you know, I'll pretend to cry as a defense mechanism.
I imagine in the wild, in the jungle, like some
animals play dead.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It's like that. It's like just playing dead.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I can just imagine the beautiful little single tear trickling
down your cheek. I bet you can cry.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I feel like crying just now thinking about it. I'm
so well versed at it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Such a method, actress. I love it. So. On today's show,
we have three new mystery confessions that we haven't heard,
so we're hearing these for the very first time. And
this week. The names of them are. Bribery is always
on the cards, always correct. Did I waste emergency services time?
Oh god, another one of these?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Okay, sorry to our frontline workers. And am I missing something?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
My son was getting really nervous in soccer, and it
was in all honesty making him play badly. It was
and he didn't like the sport or I was forcing him.
He loved training. It was just the games where he
got really in his head. So after weeks of this,
I said, if you can kick one goal, I will.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Literally buy you anything. Anything's in all capitals.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My wife was not super supportive of this, as it
was just bribery, not encouragement, but I told him the bet.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Was still on a bet. It's interesting, you said, language
will unpack that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Anyway, he went out and played the best game and
kicked two goals. Sure it was straight up bribery, but
it got him out of his head. Say see, I
would argue, this is not bribery. This is recognition and
reward system exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
This is an achievement plan.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, we have to do this in work, we're measured
on metrics and results and success in primary school, high school, adult.
This is a realistic thing that we all have to
live by. Recently we had the Olympics, We've got the Paralympics.
This is gold medals. They're not just giving out participation medals.
It's gold, silver, and bronze. You are rewarded for excellence.
(07:36):
And I would argue that this is rewarding this soccer
player for excellence.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I love it. I am concerned by the use of
the word anything, yes, because I feel like kids, you
give them an inch, they will take a mile. I
would love to know what he ended up picking.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Same like you know, I'm just thinking a.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Robot, Yeah, like a like was it a PS five? Yes,
it would have been something like that, wouldn't it. And
two goals? Does that mean he got to pick two
things two of the same two ps fives. I feel
like you've got to put them some conditions in place
in these Cozi lefts dives.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, So for that, I think this is great. And
you know what people do stick a charts.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think this is the only the only thing here
is really just the use of the word anything yep
in these cause he lives times yep. So I would
say everything else in this is a parenting strategy.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Win I'm going to go eight soccer balls out of ten.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, I think that's fair. This is just positive reinforcement.
This is like, you know, every time the dog goes outside,
do we and you did?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Good boy?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
This is just that toilet training for soccer.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes, exactly, love it, love it. I will give you
nine soccer balls out of ten.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I love it all right.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
All right, on to the next And the next one
is called did I waste emergency services time? And I
think if you're asking the question, the answer is probably yes.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's good self reflection though, that's yeah, first up.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, but here we go. One night, my child was
screaming like she was in a horrific pain. It was
scary and so full on. I thought something terrible was
going on to her internal organs. Oh, that's sorry, I
didn't mean to laugh. That's awful. I called an ambulance.
They arrived, all sirens and two paramedics. They diagnosed the
(09:22):
problem pretty quickly. Though. It was a night terror. Oh
oh look, my little one has night terrors. Sometimes it
is very dramatic. It does feel like a very scary thing.
In the middle of the night, when your child is screaming,
it's your worst fear as a mom that your child
(09:42):
is in pain. It's fight or flight, and you went
with fight. You went after right.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
To the emergency services system and come to my house
and reassure me.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know. Once actually I called the police because there
was four intruders in my backyard when I was eighteen.
It was first time having the whole house to myself.
My parents were away. It was four of my mates
that rocked up and thought it would be funny to
scare me, and three police cast And that's.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
A waste of emergency.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's just like we actually had one of our confessions
on an early episode. We'll share the link in our
show notes where someone actually staged a breaking into situation
to their children to see if they would call the police,
and they did. Now, that is a waste of time.
This is just probably a bit of over zealousy, first
time parenting, not knowing the signs.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You know what you could do.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
There's great phone numbers you can call before you call
the ambulance, I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Sure, but the worst thing would be if you didn't
call and then something horrible was happening. So I feel
like the fast response time you have to get a
few bonus points for that, you.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Know, and when it comes to health and safety, it's
better just to just call.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I just think you didn't waste their time. But now
you know about the night terrors. It's a learning but
I think it's okay. So for this one, we should
deduct points for it being just a night terror. But
I'm giving you some for being so quick and caring
about your kids. So I'm going to give you seven
(11:13):
nightmares out of ten.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'm gonna give you six ambulance as well.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think if this person or anyone.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Really feels some stress in the future, we can just
give you a little guided meditation. You can just come
back to episode yep, and you can just play it
and you can just immerse yourself.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Are you guiding this?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Are you that we can both guide week and birth guy?
You are doing a good job. Everything will be okay.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Children are said to try us. It is all okay.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And it's probably just a night terror. But you're not
a terrible parent.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You're a great parent. Actually you're a terrific parent. So okay,
that's enough of that. We hope you're sufficiently calm, and we've.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Got one more dilemma to bring it homestays coming up
after the All right, stay's last dilemma for today? Am
I missing something?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Bring it on?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I've been reading some friends Facebook posts recently about their kids,
and they read you are my whole world. All I
need is you, and you are my wildest dream come true.
My confession is that I don't feel this way about
my son, even though I love him very much.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I just wonder if these people are happier than I am,
and I wonder if they're lying.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
As a working mum, I've chosen to pursue a career
in addition to motherhood. I have dreams and a life
outside of my son. Motherhood is far from.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Magical, but it is good, the hardest job I'll ever love.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this
way right now.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
First of all, we just need to caveat.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
We are not opening the working and non working mother debate.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
We are not entering into that trope.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We are not kicking that can because we are all
about being united. It's not about working and not working.
It is about expressing your love publicly to the world
on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And I have thoughts.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
As much as you love your child. They're not on
your Facebook. No, why are you writing little love poems
to them on there? As if they can't read, they're
a bit stupid. Still, that is for you. This is
a love dedication for you. Look, it's lovely. We actually
shouldn't judge a bit. It's lovely that you love your child.
(14:05):
But sometimes I feel like those things are a bit
performative insufferable. Insufferable is the right word. We all love them.
We all love them, we also can't stand them sometimes
depending on the time of day. So absolutely fine that
you don't feel like your child is your whole world,
Like we're allowed to have interests and passions outside of them.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Definitely, what are you thinking? What are these thoughts? Well,
I mean I co parents, so if my kids more
my whole world, I would be miserable for fifty.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Of my time and I'd be wandering around the world aimlessly.
And I think it's actually really healthy to have things
outside your children.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I don't think you're alone. And also I think if
people really.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Do feel like that about the kids, that's okay as well.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Like I think good on you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like either way, if you feel like that, good and
if you don't, great do you know it? Want to
be a good use of time is if you wrote
these feelings down in a journal that you turned into
letters that you gave to your child that they could
read one day yep.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Or we have an email for our daughter, so anytime
we want to send her like a picture or write
a little thing, so on the eve of like a
birthday or something, we just send her a little email
on her email address and hope that will still exist
for her to look at when she's grown up. But
I just I think if you're writing that your childe
your whole world on your Facebook, you're lying say ha
(15:26):
ha ha, I've.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Never seen you so hard.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I'm so harsh today.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Very feisty, and I'm here I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, so the judging, I fully support you. I agree
they need to stop. It's annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Oh I mean I'm not quite as harsh as you today,
which is a first. I think that they don't need
to stop. They could channel this into a little journal
or email system, as we discussed, would be a more
productive use of their time. And then also it might
not make people who don't feel this way feel as
bad that they don't feel this way. So that's in
(16:03):
a nutshell. The email and journal love capturing system is
probably the preferred communication method moving forward for expressing love
for your children. But they didn't write into us. It
was the one who didn't feel this way. And it's
fine that you don't feel this way. So for that,
I'm giving you eight love journals out of ten.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I'm giving you nine Facebook posts out of ten. Good
on you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, So, reflecting on the three confessions from the day,
bribery is always on the cards, although we did declare
that wasn't bribery, that was recognition and reward. Confession two
did I waste emergency services time? We also declared that
you didn't waste emergency services time? And Confession three? Am
I missing something? No, you're not missing something. But out
(16:49):
of the three confessions, I can't even remember the scores
now we went.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
To be honest, we are so rogue with our scores.
I know that we probably canceled each other out. So
it's more of a vibe feeling. Which one's sticking with
us as the winner is the real question.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I really feel like Confession one, which we landed, was
not bribery.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
No, I think you're just a legend and you just
know how to parent correctly.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It was a recognition and reward system. They will set
them up to excel potentially in life.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, you're our winner. Confession No one.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Feshion one, non bribery is always on the cards.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
If you've got a confession, we would love to hear
from you. Please send us your secret shames. We can't
get enough of them. All the details are in the
show notes.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
See you next time, See you next time.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
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