Brett Rossi: The Comeback, the Chaos, and What Really Happened with Charlie Sheen

Brett Rossi struts into this episode with rhinestones, chaos energy, and absolutely no interest in playing nice. She dives into her 16-year run as a feature dancer, complete with elaborate costumes, and performances in towns so small her luggage had a better chance of getting there than she did.
 
And finally, Brett breaks the silence about her very public breakup with Charlie Sheen, the identity crisis that followed, and how she clawed her way back through therapy, reinvention, and refusing to let the tabloids write her story. Now she’s the host of Stripped, a podcast where the glam takes a backseat and the mess gets the mic.
 
Other topics on the table: dad bod thirsting, Bible shot glasses sewn into a nun outfit, Sean Penn showing up in a truck for breakfast and smelling like cigarettes, and why success isn’t about being number one but staying sane long enough to enjoy the ride.
 
Brett is hilarious, brutally honest, and fully in her comeback era. Just don’t ask her to marry you in the comments.
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered Today. I
am joined by the unapologetic and unstoppable Brett Rossi. From
runway model to adult star to tabloid fodder, Brett has
built a career on reinvention and resilience. With her new
show Stripped launching soon, she's opening up about success, survival,

(00:46):
and staying powerful in and out of the industry. So
let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Brett, welcome back. Wow, what an intro. Thank you, I
read it. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
I guess before we start, I shall let everyone know
I'm not a six year old smoker. I just got
back from Axonica.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
So how was it? Actually, it was really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
It was my first convention that I've done since twenty eighteen,
Like first convention that i've like been that.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I signed at.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, because I stopped signing at conventions for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, so did you sign your own booth or did
you sign for a brand?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was invited there by loyal fans, so yeah, so
they sponsored me to go out there, and then I
featured danced at gold Rush so that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah. Yeah, you do a lot of future dancing. Yeah
I do. I do.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I do feature dance all around the country. I do
shake my booty And I love the costumes and the
theatrix of it all. That's kind of like my thing. Yes,
I never stopped featuring. So how do you get your costumes?
Like do you get them designed yourself? Do you buy them?
Do you get to.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Reuse them or is it like a one and done
kind of situation.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I have a lady in Canada that I discovered and
she custom makes all my costumes, so I just like
give her an idea. Like my most recent costume was
a nun and so, but it's like all the all customizable,
like every piece. There's like seven pieces, so there's a
lot to take off. I have a flight attendant costume.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Song did you Dance to? Is a nun. There's this
like Rob Zombie song that it's like, oh really pleasing it? Okay, please,
I'm sorry we did not catch that. No, So there's
this like Rob Zombie song.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I come out with like a candle, you know those
like Halloween bleeding candles with that and a Bible and
inside the Bible.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm like this terrible coing to hel Okay, we all are.
I got a hole cluder, who's watching the show?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
I cut a hole for a shot glass, so then
I open it and I like taking a shot. But yeah,
so I have a bunch of different costumes. My favorite
one right now. I kind of have like favorites right now.
My favorite is the flight attendant one. But they're all
like like little jackets, matching bra panties, garters, boussiers, like

(03:14):
it's it's a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Do you also shoot in them for like your personal platform? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, I mean sometimes I do, but I get like
weird about it because they're like they're so precious to me,
Like these costumes, believe it or not. Like I have
to do a lot of repairs, Like I lost a
lot of weight, so I had to get like my
garters taken in and I brought I'm not gonna ship
them the Canada and have her fix them because.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's just gonna take too long.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
So I took them to this like guy down the street,
who's my cobbler's.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't know if anybody knows what a cobbler is,
but this is elves that live in the tree. Let
me make cookies. So cobblers fix like your cowboy boots.
Yeah there's sheer repairs. Yeah, there's sheer repairs.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
But he also his wife is like a seamstress, and
so I brought these and he's like, he doesn't really
speak English, but he's like, what are these.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I'm like, just just fix up. It's fine, just take
them in a little bit. But yeah, so featurings like.
I love it. I love it so much. I've been
doing it for sixteen years. So what do you love
the most about it?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I really love like the traveling aspect of it. I
like going to these ho dunk towns. Sometimes it's like
a cool place like Miami, but other times it's like
you're in like Bumpuck Egypt. Okay, can I say that first?
It's okay cool. I went to this small town in Virginia,
West Virginia. I didn't even know there was a West or.
I didn't know there was different Virginitia. You didn't know

(04:35):
there was a West Virginia. I've never even been to Virginia,
and I knew that. I had no idea, but this
was like a tiny town. The mall had carpet. I
felt like I was going back to like two thousand
and seven.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
The mall had carpet. The mall had carpet, like where
like everywhere throughout the mall, the whole mall had The
whole mall had carpet. I don't recall there ever being
a mall with carpet.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was pretty pretty old school. There was some old, old,
old stores. I'm trying to think of some of the
old stores that were there, but there were some old
stores that took.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Me back in time. What kind of customers do you
get there?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Honestly, it's a mash like in a town like that.
Mostly like the people that work in like the mines,
so they have money that they want to spend because
they don't do anything fun. So but I mean, I've
had some I've had some interesting experiences. I've had people
like think that they're going to marry me and come

(05:33):
to my appearances and not listen to anything, saying like
they were catfish and they think that.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
They're oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Like I had a guy come with like a ring
and everything, and it was really scary because he was like, no,
we're getting married. I'm like no, sir, and like I
try to explain him and he's like, no, I talked
to you. I'm like no, no, I'm here physically telling
you no.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
So yeah, I had I get. I mean, anyone who
is in our industry.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I'm sure get.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
You have tons of stories about that, and I get
them all the time, and usually I'm just like, you're
kind of like you're an idiot. But I did have
this one guy reach out to me. It was actually
a friend of somebody, and he told me like he
was an older gentleman and you know, he believed that
he was in this relationship with this woman who forget

(06:20):
what she called herself, Michelle.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I know it's always some like random name, like my
name is not.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Do I look like I'm like a Jessica from Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yes. And that's what's so funny.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's like because it's like you like, you know, because
of like my history. I mean, some of the girls
are a lot luckier. They have that like ability to
be anonymous. Still not so much now, but but yeahs
with me, Like it's like, come on, dude, just just
google Brett Rossi and like my whole life story.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Just just google your pictures. Yeah, you can do those
like cross yeah, image Google. But generally these people are
not that tech savvy, you know what I mean, they're
I think that they choose, you know, I do.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think they choose to think, they.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Choose to believe what they want to believe, because I've
had I've had them straight up just like talk to
me in person and totally ignore.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Me, saying like that it's not real. Yeah, They're like,
no it is. I'm like no, yeah, So I know.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I felt bad for this guy, so I actually and
I never do this, I uhould just go yeah, that's
that's not me.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, But for this guy's friend, I actually made a
video and I was like, I don't know, I just
like felt really bad it. His friend was trying to
help him. He'd given this woman all of his money.
They've been texting for like a year.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
It's usually the long term one yeah too, and all like.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
They were getting married and he was like and he said,
I don't want it, you know, And then he was
really upset when his friend confronted him about it and
was like, this is not who she says she is,
and he was like, this is my last chance at love.
I wish I'd never told you about her, And I
was just like, and I feel like even I don't
even know what happened if he's shown him the ide,
but I feel like even if he does, and it's
me literally saying like I am not this person, Like

(08:04):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
My name is Holly Randall. I'm married to have a kid.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Like I just we're not in a relationship that like
he's not gonna want to hear it, because it's just
like people are really lonely, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I know I'm on that boat too.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh Like I know, but I mean, but I'm on
the opposite side of the spectrum of lonely. I'm like, no,
don't talk to me. I'm like, not out there looking,
You're not looking. No, No, you're recently single, right, yeah
I am. And like, honestly, the thought of like even
entertaining something like I want no situationships, no fuck buddies,

(08:42):
no like texting buddy, no like let's hang out. But
I do not want anything like romantic or sexual or
anything like that at all.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
No, that's definitely not what I'm looking for right now.
I'm like money career, money career, that's it. Oh, and
horses and yeah, I'm dogging my cat. But that's pretty
much it. Like Holly was trying to like hook me up.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I have a friend, a friend, Dudy's guy, and he's
got a great body.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I'm like, but I like dad Bogs. And she's like,
I don't know what to tell you. Maybe he'll eat
more McDonald's. You could get fat for you. I guess
I get fat. I just like dad Bogs, like I
like Daddy's. Yeah, I don't care if I'm getting older.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Will say I don't like to date men that are
significantly better looking than me because I find it to
be like, I don't know, I think there's I think
there's a selfishness in it, right, I want to be
the better looking one in the relationship.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Number one, I want to be the star.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
But number two, I also find like those guys to
be no offense to guys who are really good looking.
I'm sure there's some wonderful ones of you out there,
probably not, but like generally they you know, they tend
to rely on their good looks more than like their
personality or there's sense of humor, and and because they
have so many like women throwing themselves at night, and
I think men are less have a harder time resisting

(10:05):
the charms of the opposite sex necessary than women do.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like it's just I get it. I just like like
normal looking men. Yeah, Like I don't want them too hot.
I don't want them. I just and they have to
be Daddy's like forty five to fifty, Like that's my range.
And that's been my range since I was like in
my early twenties, and it's still my range. So I'm
starting to catch up to them. So I don't know

(10:29):
if like.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm gonna have to start, you know, maybe sixty seventy.
You know what, Fuck it, I'm just gonna start grave robbing.
It's fine. I'm just that's my At least they won't
talk back to you. Well, it's fine, it's fine. So yeah,
you know, what are you gonna do about that?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh my god? Okay, so you have been on the
show before. Yes, it's been a hot minute. Yeah, so
besides becoming single, actually a lot has happened since you've
been on the show. Oh my god, so much was
that before you dated Charlie? No, it was I was
after Okay, So all right, So so yeah, so a
lot has happened.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, So I mean, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Going to ask you to like tell me everything that's happened,
because it forever, you know, right, But maybe, like, what's
the biggest difference between the Brett Rossi then and the
Brett Rossi today.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think that Brett Rossi then, well, she was still performing.
I'm just gonna talk about Brett Rossi in the third person.
She was still performing that bitch. Oh my god, now
that she's not in the room, can we talk about
Brett Rossi.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Or god, oh she's so rude?

Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I the difference is back then, obviously, age difference
like that was back when you very first started your podcast.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So actually eight years Oh my god, is it gonna
be eight years? Like next month?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Holy shit? Eight years next month?

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, So I just turned thirty six, so I was
still in my twenties. So the difference is I'm not
performing professionally anymore. I just shoot for my own self.
And I think the difference, honestly is my brand has
definitely evolved with me as I've evolved. I've noticed that

(12:18):
like when it comes to like long jet, you know,
you get to a point in your career where you
have to figure out how am I going to make
this sustainable and have it continue to be profitable because
I think a lot of like performers who are just
starting out and they have the eight girl luck or
or finances. I call it the it girl finances, and

(12:41):
the it girl finances are they're hot, they're new, their
up and coming, so they're getting booked, they're making the money,
and they're they're the hot new thing. But there gets
to a point in your career where you're you're You're
just there and you have to constantly reinvent yourself and
make your brand sustain the time of not only the

(13:02):
economy but you changing, the dynamic of the industry changing
and all that. So I I felt like for the
longest time, I struggled with, like, who's Brett Rossi And
who's Scotty? And like, you know, I felt like like
being Scotty. I wanted to be Scotty so bad, but
I want to be Brett Rossi. And what was that face?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Masha walked in with Panda Express and Ian.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Wait, did you get that cream cheese wantons? Because those
are like what makes it? I just like the orange
chicken because It's like I get half rice and half
chimmy and that has nothing to do with anything but sorry,
but anyways, before I was rudely interrupted by hand Panda express.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Now I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
No. So so for my whole career, I've always struggled
with like my identity and because I because I was
with Charlie and I was like wrapped up in that
whole thing.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I kind of was doxed. So I never got.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
To have the freedom of like, oh, here I'm Brett
Rossi and here I'm Scottie, you know, whereas like it
kind of just all mashed together. And so I went
through like a full blown identity crisis, like I from
then till now, like I didn't know who I was or.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
What what the hell I was doing.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
I became a paramedic and then I got my license
to do hair, and then I was doing makeup and
I was like what am I doing? But then I
realized I had to go back and center myself and
realize I've been in the entertainment industry even before adult
Like I grew up in the entertainment industry. My grandma
was a Pepsi colon model, you know, she worked with
Lucille Ball and I was doing runway and commercials and catalog,

(14:46):
so I kept trying to run from It was weird.
It was like I kept trying to run from what
I knew. And then finally one day I was like, Okay, no, like,
this is this is who I am. It's not a
care whereas a lot of people in the industry, both entertainment,
mainstream and adult play like a character. Where I realized, no, like,

(15:08):
this is really who I am. And once I accepted
that this was my identity, it wasn't just like a
career or something I do.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's it's my identity. It's all encompassing.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I was able to sit with it and and evolve
with with that, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
So what is your identity? Like who is Brett Rossi?
You know what?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Brett Rossi is very vulnerable. I'm very open with like
my fan base, I share a lot, probably too much.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
My team's usually like, hey, delete that. I'm like like
on on TikTok crying. They're like, yo, girl, I'm just
a Your.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Followers don't want that, they're not going to pay for that.
But actually, you guys jerk off to that.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
So I don't care, but.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
No, I'm just very raw and real and authentic, and
I think Authentic City is the reason why I'm so
lucky that my fan base has continued to, you know,
still support me since twenty eighteen was the last time
I did a mainstream adult movie, like a professionally produced
and I only do solo.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
So the fact that.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
I still do really really well and I'm very comfortable
with just like, I had to kind of retrain my
fan base because I have a lot of girls asking
me like, oh, I don't want to do boy girl anymore,
a girl girl.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I just want to do solo.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
But my fans and you have to train them, and
it takes time because if your fans really do support
you and really do love you and care about you,
which they do, they'll adapt to it, or they'll fall off.
And the ones that fell off will fuck them. You
didn't need them anyways, you know what I because.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And then you'll accumulate new you'll get new new people.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
And I honestly get a lot of.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Fans from like random places like YouTube, like at Exotica.
I mean I only have I think like six thousand
and eight thousands somewhere around their subscribers.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I don't have a lot.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
My YouTube is just like a passion project. I started
vlogging years ago, just eight hundred years ago.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
I was bored. I picked up a camera.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
I love editing, I love doing all that stuff, and
I just started like filming me on horse rides or
this is me getting drunk in my kitchen making a
martini or whatever, or behind the scenes of photo shoot.
So I just started or my feature trips, and people
would come up to me all the time and they're like,
I love your vlogs, and I'm like, you watch them,

(17:32):
but like I just I don't know. I just do
them for me and I forget. But they're like, I
became a fan of you because and then I have
a lot of fans of When me and Danny used
to do Vine, Do you remember Vine?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yes, I do remember. We were big on Vie were
big one. They're so big.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I was like the og Like I was like the
og like TikTok, Like it was like I wanna be yeah,
Like it was like a hybrid of like Snap and TikTok.
It was like five seconds and it would just run
in a loop. Yeah that was og.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I got about that. I have people that are like, yeah,
been fancit's some bind days. I'm like, fine, Wow, that's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
So but I think that that's like the biggest thing is,
you know, finding your identity and your brand at the
same time, because you can't just if you want longevity
in this industry, you can't just play a character like
you really have to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I just that's just my theory of it all.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Because I think after a while it probably gets exhausted.
Its exhausting, and it's hard to keep up with something
that you don't feel connected to well.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
And then you find people get burnt out a lot. Yeah,
and that's when burnout happens. And I was a victim
of burnout, you know. So I've also learned to pace myself.
I've learned to say no because I think you get
especially getting older in the industry, you want to just
say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because you don't know
when those opportunities are going to come. But you know what,
you make your own opportunities. So that's kind of where

(19:01):
I'm at.

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you mentioned that you wanted to talk about utilizing your
brand and maximizing income. So what are the smartest business
decisions you've made for yourself in or out of the industry.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
The smartest business decisions that I've made in or out
of the industry, well, period is trademarking my name for sure,
and making my own decisions and not I've never, ever, ever,
ever had anyone else make my decisions, whether it was
an agent or a manager or a publicist or whatever.

(20:28):
I am also very very hands on with my brand,
Like we were talking about the podcast and all that stuff,
like and my YouTube videos and my photos, like even
even down to like my professional photos.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
I get edited.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yes, they're sent out to like a team that I
have that edits in, but then they have to send
them back to me and I edit them too. So
I'm very hands on and I'm kind of a control freak.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I just kind of need that, so.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
I think, but business wise, I think that it's smart
you have because I think that the biggest mistake is,
especially the bigger your brand gets you kind of you know,
delegate tasks, which it's okay to delegate, it's okay to
let go, but sometimes like with that delegation, you kind
of throw that in the back burner and you forget

(21:18):
to keep an eye on it.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
And that's why like.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
These girls who get those agencies that run like their
ofs are like why is this happening? And it's like
because your team ran your brand to the ground because
you weren't auditing what's being said and the messages, or
you weren't you know whatever. So I think just being
like really hands on is incredibly important and the smartest

(21:41):
business decision that you can make.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
It is definitely important to delegate because you can't grow
in shure, you right, But you're right. You do have
to keep your fingers in all the pipes.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
They say, Like I said, I have like a team
who like does the editing, and then I have an assistant.
I have like people who help me, but I'm still
very much like, hey, what's going on over here? But
that is something that I do have to have to
I've always been that way though. I just I do
have to learn to let go a little and I
do like go a little bit.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
But I still hang on pretty tight. Yeah, but that
works for me, It doesn't work for everyone, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
So when you look back at the way you've evolved
your public image, what is something that you're really proud of?
And is there anything that you wish you'd done differently?

Speaker 4 (22:26):
So my public image, And actually I didn't come to
this realization until this past weekend because I haven't done
like a convention in so long, and like the last
time I did something was for Avian It was in
twenty twenty four, I like hosted the Red carpet and
did all this stuff for showtime, but I wasn't really

(22:47):
interacting with my peers or fans more so, like the
interaction was very like calculated and like structured versus like
on a casual level. So interacting with like my peers
and fans on more of a casual level for like Exotica,
for example.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I realized that my.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Public image is that I'm like a lot of people
are like, Wow, You're really like I've never heard a
bad thing about you. You're really nice, like blah blah blah,
Like you get along with everyone. All I've heard is
you're very professional and blah blah. And that to me
is so important, And because I think I wished that

(23:28):
back in the day, my image was kind of tarnished
by the people that I was attached to, Like a
lot of people on the misconception that like because my
ex did drugs, I did drugs or Charlie, yeah, because
like I was associated with that person because that was
that person's lifestyle. But what they don't understand is that
that wasn't our lifestyle when we were together, Like we

(23:50):
were monogamous, We didn't do.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
My public image, the fact that like everyone knows that,
like I'm respectful, i'm nice, I'm professional, but also to
my fans, I'm authentic, I'm genuine, and I'm real. And
that to me is like a huge compliment because I
think so many people get like their their image in
their head and they kind of become full of themselves.

(24:13):
And it's very easy when you have people kissing your
ass twenty four to seven and you've got ten million
followers and they're like, praise God, I don't care if
you're a bitch, you know what I mean. Like I've
never been that way, and that's something that I've always
really strive to be like that, but not just on
a professional setting, but in like a real life personal setting.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Like I've always tried to just be like a really good.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Person, and I take it so personally, like if someone
doesn't like me, or like if there's drama with somebody,
I'm like, oh my god, we have to fucking fix this,
Like we don't.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Got to be friends.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
But please, for the love of God, don't hate me,
because I just that's just something that like I just
take pride in the fact that I'm kind of Switzerland
with everyone, and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Maybe some people are like, Eh, well it's you have
to pick a seat. I just like, no, I really don't.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I'm definitely with you on that. I try to
just be chilling and sometimes I feel like that works
against me a little bit, but I just don't. I
really hate being involved in drama, and especially as I
get older, it's something like, yeah, I don't have a
lot of time in my life for things, and I
don't choose to live my life in like a state

(25:23):
of heightened anxiety.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
And that is it because I've been through so much
and I've had so much trauma happen to me, and
excluding my young young childhood, I'm talking just the adulthood
aspect of life.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I've had a lot of.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Unstableness, a lot of anxiety ridden public things, Like I mean,
I was I had somebody in my own home film
me having a mental health crisis, literally having like in
a full blown psychosis and sold it to a tabloid
and I'm like screaming and burning things and lighting fires

(26:01):
in my backyard and like, next thing you know, it's
like on a tabloid. And I think that that really
alters your brain chemistry experiencing something like that because you know, uh,
it really makes you just appreciate like stillness and and
and having having things be calm in life, that when

(26:23):
there's like animosity towards somebody or just something like I
can legitimately say, like I don't have any enemies. I
I don't. I don't like have drama with anyone. Like
I don't dislike anyone. I mean there's people where I'm like,
I probably wouldn't spend my time with them, but like
you know, I'm a pretty fair person.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You don't have any contact with No, really, I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Actually somebody asked me if I did. I assume that
you didn't, But no, I don't. We don't talk. But
last I heard, he was like living in Malibu, and
sadly he's living the life that like I always wanted
him to live with me. But I'm glad that like
he's found his peace and his sobriety and all that stuff,

(27:08):
because like he really needed that. But I guess he's
living like a normal life in Malibu.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
He's sober, he's clean.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I guess he's like raising the boys, so he's living.
It was so funny when we were together all I
wanted was for him to like drive us somewhere. I
know that sounds crazy, but I just wanted to drive
to like target, Like that's all I.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Wanted to do, is a normal thing God to just like.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Me and him go to target, get in the car, drive,
no security, but that like we couldn't, especially back then
he was at like you know, like his peak, like
he was just getting off of like.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, he was just getting off of that.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
And he was still filming like Anger Management, so he
was still very much in the public eye. So we
never got the ability to have like a normal life
like we would go to like I remember we were
at a restaurant one time and we sat down and
somebody like came over and was like Charlie, and I

(28:09):
would get you know, I coming from somebody who has
a fan base herself nothing compared to like that, was like, yeah,
you know, monstrous. But I tried to be understanding. But
at the same time, I'd be like, do you have
to yell his name? Because now the whole restaurant knows
he's here, and now our guess what. Now our dinner
is more is hit like a line of people coming

(28:31):
over and asking for autographs and photos and pictures, and
so that was very hard because a lot of people
are like, oh, you knew what you were getting into
when you got with Charlie, and it's like I didn't.
He was not my era, like when it comes to
like celebrities. I just was attracted to this like older
hot guy that I knew he was an actor, but

(28:53):
I didn't, And I knew he was a celebrity, but
I didn't know. Honestly, I didn't know the caliber of
like how big of a celebt he was until we
went to Spain. We went to Spain and we saw
the Running of the Bulls because I had always wanted
to see that, And we went to Spain, saw the
running of the bulls, and somebody tipped off the hotel.
Somebody at the hotel tipped off that we were there,

(29:13):
and I remember we were walking from our hotel to
our car and there was the biggest mob of people
I've ever seen, like people climbing on our car, like
banging on the It was so traumatic. I was so scared.
But that was when I was like, oh shit, I'm
like I'm gonna like and we were engaged. Then I

(29:36):
was like, oh my god, like I'm getting married to
this person, like this is our life?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Like what did he handle situations? Like he was.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Really great with his fans, Like I will say that
about him, like he was so and we used to
argue about it because he was so great that I
think sometimes he would kind of ignore boundaries like Okay, hey, yeah,
I'd love to take a picture with you, but can
me and my fiance finish our dinner first and then

(30:05):
we can take.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
The way out.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, Like I wish that he would have had more boundaries,
And that was something that we had a lot of
disagreements about because it wasn't that I didn't want him,
and his fans were like fans of mine too, and
they'd be like, wait, no, I want a picture of you,
and I'm like who me, Like why, Like who am
I like compared to like this, you know, Hollywood royalty
comes from like a family of royalty. So but that

(30:31):
was very, very very hard, and that really changed the
trajectory of my life because my life was never the
same after that. I mean when we broke up, like
paparazzi were like sitting in front of my house, like
taking pictures of me leaving Starbucks, and I was only
twenty five years old, and I'm going through a breakup

(30:53):
of not just a boyfriend but my fiance. And we
broke up three weeks before our wedding. And this is
very public, and this is not just public like oh
our friends know, but like the whole world, like TMZ.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Fox News, E News. People were waiting.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Out front of my door, Hey, how do you feel
about this? And it's like, well, how do you think
I feel? Like how do you think I feel?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
You know?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
And then all of your all of.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Your your your your dirty laundry gets aired out and
we had a mole in our house and somebody kept
leaking stories to the press that were awful about me
and like, oh, she's a brideziller, she's this, or she's
getting so and so fired.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
And I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
I wasn't like that at all. I didn't even want
a wedding. He wanted the wedding. I was like embarrassed.
And we had this like huge engagement party that you went.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
To, Yes, I remember, I think I still from that. Yeah, gone,
we had this huge engagement party.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
But I was actually I don't know if you remember,
but I was like very shy at it because I
was gonna be like, I don't know his third or
fourth wife, And to me, that was like, oh my god.
I in my mind, I was like, everyone's got I
got two strikes, three strikes against me.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
One I'm a born star.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Two oh god, it's his third or fourth wedding. Yeah,
and three I was young. So but a lot of
people don't realize that I'm like a very old soul.
And all to circle back to what he's doing now
or what I've been told, is that I always fought
for his sobriety and I used to.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Talk to you about that all the time.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I always fought for Charlie's sobriety and so hearing that
he's living that life now and he's living a much
more quieter lifestyle like that makes me happy, even if
I couldn't share that with.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Him, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
So, I mean, that's one hell of a thing to
have to live through. I mean I can't either, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I mean, And it's not like I just dated a
reality star like this was like Hollywood Royalty, likeeah, I mean,
shit up next, I should like hit up Sean Penn
or something, just kidding.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Even Sean Penn, Like wash, Actually I met Sean.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Did I tell you the Sean story?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Oh my god, I cooked Sean eggs for breakfast one day.
Sean was the coolest guy ever. He came over and Sean,
you would think, oh my god, this is Sean Penn.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Right. He came to our house.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I don't know why he came over, but he came
over and it was like breakfast time. I cannot cook
for shit, and I was like, well, I gotta be
like the wife and knew something. So I was like,
I'll make eggs. And I had like one of those
waffle little mini stick makers, so I mean like scrambled
eggs and these waffle things. Sean rolls up. You would
think he'd roll up in like this badass car. He
rolls up in this like hoopedy, run down, fucked up

(33:39):
truck pulls in front of our house. He walks in.
He like smells like a cart and of cigarettes. He's
wearing clothes from probably nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
And he eats my breakfast and he's like this is amazing.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And I'm like, you, sir, are a good liar, but
thank you very much for I know that my food
is disgusting, so thank you.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
But yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
But my but that was like my life, Like, oh yeah,
Sean's coming over.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'm like, oh okay, like thinking.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Like that Sean, like some guy named Sean, and then
Sean Penn walks in and you're like hello, like uh,
I just made breakfast for Sean Penn, Like yeah, you know.
We would just like the life like Paris Hilton was
our neighbor and we would go to dinner with Larry
King and like, uh, you know, just there was just
so many surreal moments that like I look back and

(34:27):
I'm like, oh my god, Like it definitely alters your
brain chemistry because like I've also seen things that people
would be like, oh, that's only a movie.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
So I'm like, no, is a part of you glad
that you didn't end up like marrying him and getting
sucked into that whole lifestyle, because I feel like you're right,
like you get sucked in that kind of celebrity, especially
that level, and I feel like it it has.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
To change you on some level.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I mean, how can you ever be the same again
because people will never eat you the same way, Like
you're not surrounded by people who are real, you don't
live in the same way.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
It did it did it did change. It changed me
even in that short time, and not changed me like,
oh I thought it was better than people.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
It changed me.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Because I lost trust for people. Yeah, I think before
them I was so naive. But if I would have
been with any celebrity, I think the safest person ironically
to have been with, to have stay stayed, stayed centered,
would have been him. And the reason being is because

(35:34):
he was a firmly or a if you don't read it, it
doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
He didn't fall into the fodder of like that lifestyle.
I mean I wore Target clothes, like I shopped at
you know, Ralphs when we needed grow like I was
very still grounded, like I picked up the dog poop
like it. Whereas you know, other people at his level

(36:00):
are kind of not not centered and not grounded. I
think I think that's a lot that's attributed a lot
because of his mother and his father, because they still
live in the same house in Malibu that they've lived
in since like the seventies. They his mom soil goes
to you know, the farmer's market, like they were very
normal people. You walk in their houses like it looks

(36:22):
like it's still decorated in the eighties and there's like
religious crosses everywhere and they're just very normal. So I
think that the normalcy, like if I would have been
in that lifestyle, that would have been the safest area
for me to be in or person to be with.
I know that sounds insane, yeah, but I'm talking grounded wise,

(36:43):
because there's so many we would meet people and I'm like,
why are they like that?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
And he'd be like, you know, so like if it
wasn't for the drugs, he might.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Have Yeah, no, No, Honestly, like Charlie Charlie, Charlie was
an incredible partner whenever he was so were and clean,
he really was, and he's a really good person like
outside of that. So it actually when we talk about
like how it changed me, I think it definitely taught
me to see that that because I never experienced like

(37:17):
addiction or anything like that, that it showed me a
different side of like, yeah, that person can be a
totally different person, and it was really hard to grapple with,
like understanding how a good person could be a terrible
person at the same time.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, I mean it really changes you, and I think
that that's something that makes joining, you know, a community
or a program like AA or any other kind of yeah,
program where you can meet are the people who are
struggling with the same thing as you, because to explain
addiction to someone who doesn't have it is pretty much

(37:56):
impossible because it is also like it doesn't make sense,
Like I, you know, am like a recovering alcoholic. By
the way, I'll have seven years on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, lucky number seven.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
So that was the and I hit seven years the
first time and then I relapsed, so like I'm gonna
make it to eight. Yeah, this is like my my
point where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna make it your facet. Also,
I relapsed on accident because I ate an edible on
a Twisty shoot, which is.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Why because we were in Costa Rica. Wait was this
my god? Did you you should.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Own about the Twisty's contract Star days when we went
on trips me Emily and Taylor. But yeah, that was
But yes, to answer your question, it did change me
and it would have changed me. But I think that
if there was anyone I would have I would have

(38:51):
been sheltered, is I think the appropriate term. Ironically, people
are like, how can you be as Charlie sheen and
that be the safest place to be. But they just
don't understand what I'm trying to say, if that's their
thought process after everything I just said, Yeah, I mean
everything I just said, and I'm not And this is
actually interesting that we're talking about this because, like, you know, me,

(39:12):
like I don't really talk about it. I don't really
open up like I don't a lot of people, Like
my last partner, he was probably the first person that
I and before him, I was with somebody for eight years.
So I think that my last partner was probably the
last person I ever truly like opened up to about that.

(39:33):
And this is probably the most I've talked about it
in a really long time or actually ever.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
So there you go, There you go, There you go.
See we told TikTok that we were gonna and then
we were right. Yeah, okay, so let's let's move on
to more about you. Yeah, so reinvention obviously seems to
be is a huge theme in your life. Was there
ever a moment when you felt like you had to
completely start over? And I'm feeling like, maybe was it

(40:02):
after your breakup with Charlie?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, after my breakup with Charlie. I had to totally
reinvent myself because I had I thought that I was
going to be.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I thought I was going to be a wife. I
thought I was going to be a mom.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I thought that that Brett ROSSI was kind of done
and over with. And that's not to say that like
I had any ill feelings towards the industry. It was
just that that I was marrying essentially into royalty, you know,
like I was basically getting the dream that everyone thought,

(40:38):
and my reality crumbled in front of me. And I
was only twenty five, and I wasn't sure if I
wanted to go back into the industry. And not only that,
but there were circumstances that like, I'm not going to
devil deep into but all you have to do is
google that the industry would accept me back because of

(40:59):
like his health situation, and I had the scarlet letter. Ironically,
the industry talks about like, oh, yeah, when you join,
you get the scarlet letter in the society won well,
we're all accepting.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
The industry was not nice to me when me and
Charlie split and the news came out that he had AHIV.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
A lot of people in the industry.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Talked a lot about me behind my back, saying that
I had HIV and I was this and I was
sad and knew why would you work with her? And
it took tests. I would have people who like I
hooked up with like asked me like, oh, you don't
have HIV?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
And it's like, don't you get tested like I get tested?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Like I was just on a set, like, and so
I had a lot of insecurity issues. And it wasn't
with my looks ever, or with my performance or my professionalism.
It was more so like, oh my god, if my
scene partner finds out that, like my ex has HIV,
are they going to still want to work with me,
even though I have a clean test like I tested

(42:05):
and I was under a doctor's care when we were together,
and so I do not have HIV, thank god. But
it was the way people were so cold and callous
towards me about it and the way they would ask me.
I'm like, it's like so rude, like who just like
walks up to you and just like you know, and

(42:25):
it's look, in our industry, you have to ask these questions.
But there's a way to ask them and like, if
you're performing with me, you have every right to ask me.
But Joe Schmoe on the corner who heard doesn't have
the right to ask me that. And for years and
I still sometimes get comments like oh you HIV whrror
And I get those comments still to this day, and
a lot of actually just people someone that Exotica came

(42:48):
up to me of I don't say FAM because that
was not appropriate how he approached me, but he asked
me if I had HIV, like just just flat out
like ask me. And so that reinvents of being associated.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
The ignorance that people have about HIV, and like the
progression of drugs and treatment and how we handle HIV
these days is like astounding, even within the adult industry.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Well, a fun fact that a lot of people don't
know is that I was one of the first people
to actually take PREP before it was PREP.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Oh interest.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
So back then, which was like ten years ago, there
was three pills. There was a blue and white and
a red pill that they would take. And when I
found out the situation that I found out, I was
going to marry this person, so I was like, well,
I'm already balls to the law, So you know, but
we obviously took precautionary measures. So we were like, well,

(43:47):
what can we do And one of the doctors was like,
you can take one pill and it's kind of like
a PREP. It's it's not FDA approved yet as a preventory,
a preventative.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
You know, can you explain to people who may not
because it's okay, may not know what PREP is.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Okay, So PREP is basically and now it may be
different than when I started taking, but PREP is a
pill that you take that helps prevent contracting HIV the
virus should you be exposed to.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
The virus, because how it works.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
And I don't know a lot about HIV and the
medications that are out there now, but back then and
I'm sure that's how it is now. You have to
take your dose every day. You have to be religious
about your medication because if you're not, then your viral
load will raise. And if your viral load is raised,

(44:48):
that is when you are more contagious. Whereas if your load,
if your levels are say zero, the chances of you
contracting HIV are very very very very very very low,
almost impossible, which is why people like Magic Johnson would
be able to test and they would be like, oh.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Magic Johnson doesn't have it anymore. No, he still has.
I mean I don't know now he probably doesn't.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Now they probably have medication out there, but I haven't.
I used to be such a huge advocate and be
so involved with it because I experienced it, But now
I'm not so much educated but just based off of
what my previous education from it was. That's what PREP is,
and now it's under I'm under the impression that performers

(45:38):
actively take PREP.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
It's very popular in the gay perform definitely gay performer
and then some female performers take it now too.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, if you're having unprotected wild you know, interactions with
people that you may not know or they may not know,
because a lot of the times it's not like someone's
going out there being an asshole and just you know,
it's a lot of the times they don't know that
they haven't, which is crazy to me because when you

(46:06):
first get sick, you get very, very very ill. From
what he had described to me, it was the worst
flu you had ever experienced in your life, so you
felt like you were literally dying. So I was taking preps.
So when I came out, I did have to reinvent
myself because my name was like, great, I'm a crackhead,
I've got HIV, you know, So it wasn't cool to

(46:30):
be associated with like the celebrity that I was associated
with because unfortunately he was going through a hard time,
you know, so his hard time, I was tethered to that.
So I had to reinvent myself. And a lot of
it was just like, you know, a lot of therapy,
a lot of just like accepting that this is what

(46:51):
it is and that hopefully one day it'll go away.
And I mean, I'm thankful that, you know, I don't
get it as often anymore, but I still do get
it sometimes, and it makes me.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Sad because it's like.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
It's just it makes me sad because that was somebody
I loved, you know. So it's like what I think
when people come up to me, they just think it
was just some like I was just some hired escort,
which gold digger.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, I'm sure you got all that stuff. Yeah, but
that was not that. That was not the narrative at all.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
That that or the reality of it, That was not it.
But the narrative was that I was this person. And
so I think reinventing yourself from that is very, very
very hard, both professionally but personally.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I went through a lot of you know, I had.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
A lot of mental health issues, and I had a
lot of Sadly, you know, I had a suicide attempt
and I almost died and that changed my life forever.
So I think that, you know, reinvention is so important,
but being resilient is even more important.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, what do you think is like the greatest life
lesson that you took away from that whole experience.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
The greatest life lesson that I took away would have
been nothing lasts forever. So when they say pain is
only temporary, it is whether it's mental or physical pain
like it's it will it will eventually pass. It will

(48:23):
eventually pass. You just have to hang on like you
really do. And now I've gone through a recent situation
where I kind of experienced like a dark that darkness
that I hadn't visited in a very long time. And
so I think that that's kind of what has helped
me is just to you know, recall that like it's

(48:44):
only temporary and life is ever evolving, Like, holy shit,
that was my life and then this was my life
and it's like I've had so many different lives and
one lifetime that I'm like, well, I can't be like, I.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Mean, shit, what's next? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (49:02):
So I think that that's really important is just to
learn to be resilient.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
How do you personally define success today versus when you
first started in the industry?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
So when I first started the industry's success was just
like money, money, money, money, money, money, and paying off
my credit card debt because like I had been living
on my own since I was seventeen, so like I
react up the debt, you know. So when I finally
was debt free, and then when I experienced having everything
and then having nothing, like the definition of success definitely

(49:37):
changed to me. I think success is more longevity. It
doesn't have to be up here all the time, like
you can be here, you don't have to be here,
and you don't have to be here, like you can
be here and be okay. And that I think accepting
that and learning that, like you don't have to be
the best of the best.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I mean, look, if you're not for a sue lass
but just saying but.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I'm just s but like you know, you know, like
you don't have to constantly try to like be better, like, oh,
that person has ten million followers, Like what are they
doing that's better than me? You can strive for that,
but like, dude, you still have like a million followers
or you still have two million or ten million or whatever.
You know, So just being consistent is success consistency.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
So now you are you're starting your own podcasts? Yeah,
called stripped. So what made you want to launch a podcast?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Why now? And what is this one about?

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Okay, so I'm a talker obviously if you guys haven't noticed,
so stripped is basically it is. It is ironically not
adult focused. It's the entire entertainment industry. I'm escorts, dominatrix, strippers,
show girls, features, directors, producers. I have friends that are

(50:59):
pop rock see that are going to be on actors, comics,
you know. I have a friend who he's a doctor
to the stars, like anyone who is associated with the
entertainment industry.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
And Stripped is basically about.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Showing your vulnerability and discussing what it took to get
to where you are today and just kind of like
stripping you raw and my guests that are going to
be on, are gonna, you know, tell stories about like
you know, I don't know something like I'm not gonna
give too much away. But there's this one girl who

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was on that I interviewed, and she talked about how
this dude died that she was dancing out a club
with like just crazy stuff but like the story's funny,
Like it's not funny that the dude died, but like
just really encompassing being vulnerable. And I think that I
just wanted to create a space where people could be
vulnerable and talk about like what they went through to

(52:02):
get there. Like I mean, not everyone had unicorns and rape.
Like I was lucky. I I've pretty much had a
pretty cush career, Like I didn't I have it growing up.
I didn't really have anything like terrible happened to me
where like I wasn't like an orphan or something like that.
But like there are people who really had to go
through the trenches to get to where they are today.

(52:26):
And so it's it's gonna be funny, it's gonna be real,
it's gonna be sad, it's gonna be raw, and so
I'm really excited and I just wanted I just wanted
another passion project.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I'm all about passion projects. So I was like, you
know what, I'm a talker, this looks.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Great, and yeah, so it's it's we're gonna we're gonna
have local guests and then we're also gonna have guests
that you know obviously can't make it, so they'll be
zoomed in. And so it's gonna be it's gonna be exciting,
and I hope that people tune in and give a shit.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Is it gonna be audio d boat.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yes, it's gonna be both, but my primary focus is
definitely going to be audio.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
The visuals. I'm going to use them for social media,
you know.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Uh yeah, you gotta get like the wheels, and so
I'll probably be like.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Calling you for advice and stuff. I'm open to anyone,
I know.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Right, I keep asking everyone that I know that has
like a podcast. I'm like, I know, don't roll your
eyes at me. When I said that I wanted to
do a podcast, I was like.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Oh my god, so many people are gonna roll their
eyes at me.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
But it was actually something that like my ex and
I had come up with, like he had owned a
club and we were he has features every weekend and
his club is like the biggest for future entertainers and
he has a great club, and you know, he he's
a great guy and I'm a great gal, So like,
why not create this podcast? So we were going to

(53:52):
do this podcast together. But when we split, I was like,
you know what, I need a project, and so I
was like, this is what I'm going to do. Like
I don't have enough on my plate, but I was like,
I want to do this. So and we were.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Going to call it Stripped because you know, strippers and
getting stripped.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
And yeah, yeah, I mean I am obviously not rolling
my eyes. I think that it's it's funny because when
I got into it, like we were just it was
eight years ago, so crazy. I thought that like I
was like too late then at that point, yeah, a
lot people are doing this, but I don't know, is
it too late. But obviously it was like a great,

(54:29):
you know, thing to get into. But it's still growing immensely.
I did a lot of research.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Yeah, like a lot of people quit within the first
like couple months, so I'm like, okay, cool, So as
long as I don't quit, the.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Bar is pretty low. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not
hard to like get past. Yeah, and you already have
obviously a following. I mean you're way ahead of everybody
in so many ways because you already have a following.
You have a lot of like media experience, right, so
you know how to talk on camera. Yeah, you have
the connections, you have the interesting people that you can
bring on, and you have you know, people that you

(55:01):
can consult with about getting it up, and you know
you understand like filming and like right, so there's so
many things that you have that is going to make
this so much easier.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Is so scary, like because I am so hands on,
I'm like, no, I want to figure it. Like me
and Mike Adams got like an argument on the phone
the other day because he's.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Like I just don't understand.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
I'm like, just fucking tell me if this is the
correct mixer that I need, you know, And he's like, well.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I don't understand why you can't.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
I'm like, you're not answering my question and he's like, well,
I don't know, Like I haven't fucking directed in like
three years.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
I'm like, dude. So then I called Quasar and I
was like, can you just help me?

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Like just all I want to know, is is this
the fucking appropriate mixer?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Like is it too much or is it not? Or
is it what? And Quasar was like, I got you, girl,
so like you know.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Give me some I think we like what the black
Magic ATM one, right, Yeah, Louise, I'm.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Like, I'm like, dude, I have this makes when I'm
like I don't even fucking not need this. I'm like,
I'm just gonna figure it out, but you know whatever whatever.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
But I think it's also like for somebody who's already
got an established brand, even if like the podcast itself
doesn't make money in itself, and it's not easy to
make money with a podcast doing it to make money,
that's crazy even so, like like my podcast can't really
support itself on its own, like it's that's.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Why the Patreon and but.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Even that, like like I couldn't if I didn't have
everything else in my life, Like I could not live
on this alone, like not support me. But it has
enabled me to do so many other projects and has
brought me other opportunities. And this funneled it's a great
traffic funnel.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah, And that's what I'm always.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Which is and you have those other places that you
can monetize, so like, sure, it totally makes sense for you.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
That's what I'm always and I'm always like I have
an o F TV channel, and like I'm always thinking of.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
My brain is always traffic, traffic, traffic, traffic, Like.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Even if it's like my YouTube, even if it doesn't
make me money, like I'm still getting traffic from it,
Like my tiktoks, like they don't make me money.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Like I could I could easily.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Start talking about the industry or whatever, but that's not
that's I'm very with my brand. I'm very careful with
how I craft it because I do want it to
be accepted in the mainstream world. So I'm very very
careful with how much Brett Rossi encompasses adults still, which

(57:32):
I don't look down at adult adult is the reason
why I am where I am today, and it pays
my bills, like hello OnlyFans. But you know, I have
been lucky that I have so many different projects that
aren't just in that realm. And I think that that's
because you just have to be really careful. You just
have to be crafty with it, you know what I mean.

(57:54):
But yeah, I'm it's just a passion project and if
it does really well, cool, like if I'm the next
call her daddy, like you know, just yeah, like we
can all wish, right yea, hey, hey the barstool want
to give me like a I'm me I would leaving
like a fifty thousand dollars contract.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I'll take a dollar contract and shit, that's like.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
I mean, I'm a big believer at throwing spaghetti at
a wall and that's.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
What I do.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Yeah, with everything in my life, I'm like, yeah, you know,
just throw it. And I recently went through this like
revelation where like my whole career, this is going to
sound so terrible, but I'm just very lucky. I've only
really ever given kind of like fifty percent. The rest
have kind of just like been lucky and coasted and

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gotten these opportunities handed to me. And when I say
handed to me, yes, they were handed to me. I
was just right place, right time, right contract, right connection
or whatever. But now I'm in this era where I'm
like one hundred percent, Like I am pushing myself one
hundred percent, and I'm like, well, if I got that,
like you a fifty percent, Like damn, what's gonna happen

(59:01):
when I actually give a shit. So so yeah, it's
kind of just like my my thing.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
But I wanted to give I wanted.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
I wanted to give everyone, Like I have a friend
who he's a director, he does horror movies, and like,
I want to give everyone a platform where they can
like be vulnerable. And just because you're vulnerable doesn't mean
it has to be like so deep, like it can
still you can be vulnerable and funny as fuck, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
So it's just gonna be like a good.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Place for people to just like safely talk about whatever.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
If they were like on.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
The street shooting up Heroin and then now they're like
the biggest star in the world on porn hub. You
never know, yeah, I mean, don't google like biggest star
and then then think that, like I'm saying, she does Haroin,
Like I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I just thought that.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I'm like, great, someone's gonna make who is number one
porn Hub?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Oh she was doing Heroin. I'm like, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
To make Angela wait and I can tell you right now,
and she does not do her No angel Oh my gosh.
I remember when I like, Angela.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Still away from me?

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Angela's still lived in Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
When I met her, she is so great.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
We were we were on tour with It was when
I was contracted with Twisties. We were on me Phoenix,
Marie and a couple others were on tour with Steel Panther.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Yeah, and I was fucking one of the stupid I
was fucking the face guy Lexi or whatever they want
the mirror. I don't know that guy, like I know
that huge, huge, huge huge.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Mirror cock huge mirror huge. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
But anyways, that's how I met Angela. That was great times. Yeah,
she was just this cute little so I look at
her now. All right, Well where can people find uh stripped?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
And when is it? When are you launching it? Do
you have a launch date yet?

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
I don't have a launch date because it got kind
of pushed back because I'm like control freaking things weren't But.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
It's going to be this month.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
But right now you can find it at the Strippedpod
dot com and then you can find it the Striped
Pod on Instagram. But the best place we'll be going
to Brett Rossi dot com and that's where you'll be
able to find all my official socials which that will
be there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Well, I'm so excited for you. Thank you so much
for having me. Sorry I talked your ear off. No,
I mean this is a podcast, it's as to do
all these questions. I'm like, she's what They're just here
for reference just in case. I do have a bunch
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