Triple Anal Is a Strategy: How Lauren Phillips Turned Extreme Scenes Into a Brand

Lauren Phillips opens up about her insane work ethic, her roots as a dancer and nanny, and the wild path that led her to becoming The Ultimate Ginger in porn. Holly and Lauren dive into the highs and lows of the adult industry—from brutal auditions and shitty agents to gang bangs in Prague and finding family on set. Lauren also shares her experiences feature dancing with a broken foot, pushing boundaries in extreme scenes, and her pride in being a businesswoman and ambassador for ProDx Health and The Pony clubs. It’s honest, hilarious, and full of behind-the-scenes gold. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest
today is known as the Ultimate Ginger, and she has
worked incredibly hard for over a decade to earn that title.
She's an award winning performer and director, and I am
so excited to finally have her on the podcast, so
incredibly excited that even I am wearing well, I guess
it's not red.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
But it's it's close. Welcome Lauren Phillips.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
I was like, that's not red, it's reddish orange, reddish orange.
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I was like, I'm not even in red right now.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I know, right, I'm representing you more than your reper
zending yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yes, I was like, oh man, I knew I forgot something.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
How are you? I'm good?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm good? Thank you for wheeling yourself in today. I'm like.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I was like, as long as there wasn't any stairs,
I was fine. I was like, I can't make it,
but like stairs wise, uh, that's like, can't do it,
but I'm here, I'm fine, So I actually.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Don't even know what happened to your foot? What happened
to your foot?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
So I was on set and I was walking out
of a sliding door which had stepping stones with like
like dirt around it, you know, like the and I
want to go step on a stepping stone and I
hit the edge and I just rolled and I thought
it was a major sprain, Like I went down and

(01:46):
everyone came running, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Breathing through the pain for a.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Second, and we iced it, and I was like, the
director came.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
And then you finished the scene?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Wall I did? I finished the scene? Yes, I finished this. No,
I finished the scene. I it was a missoghine anyway.
So I was like, oh, I don't need to be standing.
We'll just hide it and were I was.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Just wrapped it up.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
And I actually feature danced three shows before I knew
it was broken.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, girl, Okay, Yeah, So everybody who complains they can't
come the set, todachs, they need a mental health day,
they have a headache. Here's Lauren Phillips. You finished the
scene and feature danced three shows on a broken foot.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
So uh when the heeling like so it swallowed up
like if you looked at both of my feet. You
would think they were from two different people.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
It was horrible and very let's just say, very uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
And I had it wrapped, double wrapped everything. Once the
swelling you went down and the bruising went down, I
was like, Gray, it's just you know. But then I
felt some thing hard on the edge of my foot
and I was like, I fractured it. So I went
I got three opinions. I went to urgent care first,
and a didn't X ray and they're like, yes, you

(03:10):
broke your foot. So then I went to a foot doctor.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Because they didn't want to believe it. I didn't want
to believe that. You're like, no, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I was like, oh, I'm just being I'm just being
a baby, and you just it's fine. Like and I
went to a foot doctor and he was like, you
broke So basically, I broke my fifth metatarsal and he
explained it to me, which is really great because I
know the body, but I don't know like exactly. There's

(03:38):
three ligaments when it comes to your ankle, and usually
when you like twist your ankle, it's the front one,
like it's overstretched and that's how you sprain your ankle,
and the other two are very rare, but you can.
So my ankle was sprained, but when I rolled my foot,
that legama was trying to get your foot to go
back to normal, and basically that's what happened. It broke
my foot and pulled the bo off basically, so there

(04:02):
was too much.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Wait, wait, so did your foot break because your ligament
was trying to pull it. Yeah, so your foot broke later, No,
it was broke.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
So when you roll, the ligament is trying to pull
it back when it's already broken. It was a three
week break so that before I went into to figure
out what I was going to do with it. Uh,
And he basically said there was so much of a
gap because the ligament was now pulling on that bone
fragment that it wasn't healing. So he was like, you're

(04:35):
going to need surgery and uh. I also went to
an orthopedic as well, and uh. He wanted me in
a boot for like four months. So this is this
was more of a you have six weeks and I
was like, great, that's fine, I'll do six weeks in
a boot.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
But they had to put a screw and I had.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
I found out what on Tuesday and went into surgery
on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Wow, how did you dance on it? Like, seriously, how
did you look? First one?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
So when I went to uh Philadelphia Cheerleaders, which I've
danced this guy. I think that was like my third
or fourth time being there, they already knew about it.
They and I did not stand on it at all.
I was on the floor on my knees the entire time.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Did you like waddling on stage on your knees? Yeah?
I literally yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I basically they would I was limping on air, so
I had security hold me to make it look as
I wasn't limping as bad. And then when I got
to the stairs, I just kind.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Of like crawl. I would just crawl and crawled. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
The GMS were made sure that I did not over
push myself. They would stand by the stage making sure
I did not stand on it. They told me, I
don't They didn't want me, that's help me. They took
care of me.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Do you think that anybody? So, you don't think anyone
in the audience.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Noticed unless I told you, they knew I had hurt myself,
but I don't think anyone really noticed the you know,
the only time they did is uh my, I think
it was my lash. No, it was Saturday after my
first show. I had a line for lap dances, so
I did an hour and thirty minutes of lap dances.

(06:28):
That is usually when they kind of knew I was
hurt because after doing that, it was you.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Have to stand for that, right, So how did you
do that? I still don't know how.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I Like when I went to the Pony in Peoria,
I still don't know how I did that because I
actually I was feeling a little bit better. It just
hurt a little bit and I was still wrapping. My
focus is still swollen, and I went full force. I
did my normal like I was standing on it. I
did my chair where I like I do like rides

(07:05):
for tens, so he tipped ten dollars and I can
get on stage and I get a ride, and I
went hard and I knew. I felt it afterwards like
I was like cool man, and I should probably shouldn't
have done that, but.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Once you're in the zone, yeah, you know, you just forget,
You forget. It's just kind of la there. So that's crazy. Yeah,
I haven't walked on this for it's going to be
four weeks.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, I missed my foot. They missed it so bad.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
So when do you When can you walk on again?
When does the boot come off?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Fingers crossed that this Friday? I get an next right,
and I might be able to walk on it. What's
the first thing you're going to do when you walk
on it? Gives one a lap dance? I think My
first thing I was I can't wait is to stand
in the shower.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Ah, yes, yes, I know. That's like the most weirdest thing.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know, I get cause you probably have to use
a shower chair, right, Yeah, those are it's sad.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Or take a bath. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
And I have like a boot that goes on because
it's still wrapped.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, and you've put like a plastic bag over it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
And I have to be really careful because I already
slept once and fell Thank goodness, Matt, my booty is
so big. Yeah, because I fell right on my butt
and I was like, all right, that's fine, but I
have to be really careful.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's it's the truth.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Like the first week, I fell at least four times
because I was trying to I had crutches, so I
fell twice with the crutches. I fell in a shower
and then I had fallen, uh, trying to scoot to something.
I was being lazy and I was trying to scoot
and like when I like a chair instead of like,

(08:50):
I didn't. I didn't want to, I didn't want to
use my crutches. I wanted just to get somewhere. And
I like fell on my butt again. So I didn't
never fell on it. It was always like up in
the air, but my butt was the one that kind
of helped.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, thank god for that. Thank goodness.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Soon, I hopefully. I already told the doctor. I was like,
I gave you six weeks and of end of June,
I'm heading to Miami for the Expo, and I my
first feature dancing is July fourth at Gold Diggers in Fresno, California.
So I was like, you had six weeks and I'm back.
It's done. I can't hold off anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
The Doctor's like, I don't care. It's your fucking foot.
You break it again.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
It was not on me, it's my pain. I was like,
the screws already in there. Let it do its thing.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
All right, so let's talk about let's talk about your
beginnings of Lauren Phillips. What were you doing before you
got into the industry.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I was kind it seems so long ago now. I
was a professional dancer. So I was trained to dance
ever since I was younger.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like, what kind of dance are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
When I went to my main one was modern dance,
which is now kind of considered contemporary. I as I am,
I do not like to form to society very well,
So modern dance that's what it was created for. So
back in the day, you know, ballerinas didn't want to
be like, wanted to rebel, and they took their shoes off,

(10:20):
turned in and you know, throwing yourself to the floor.
So I was a modern dancer. I was part of
two modern companies. I also taught dance. I was nationally
certified to teach modern tap, ballet, jazz and point. I

(10:41):
also was a backup dancer for a Tina Turner impersonator
for about six years.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh my god, that's fun.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
And we went all a toward all like the East coast.
The farthest we went for the West coast was New Mexico.
We went there twice and it just as I was,
you know, surviving with my arts, right, because you don't
get paid a lot as a professional dancer.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I was. I worked out a preschool for in a while,
but you also don't get paid a lot either.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I was also a nanny for four kids. I was
in my twenties, so I was trying to figure out
what I was a massage therapist at one point. Yeah,
I just kind of was trying to figure out what
I wanted. And once I was a nanny, I was
working fifty hours a week.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Were you like a living nanny? No, that's another I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
But they the wife who was like the breadwinner was
a neurosurgeon of the spine. Oh yes, and the dad
was I don't even know that. Dad was crazy, dead
beat basically, and I hope he hears. And when they

(11:52):
needed me to stay longer or come in early, I did.
And that was just how it was. So I kept
trying my times they would, you know, pay me and
I but it was just so much. And I was
a lead dancer with Tina, and just one day I
was like, I started losing the love of my art.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Because I was working so much.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Even I work a lot now, but this was like
bouncing from job to job to job to job. And
I talked to one of my dancer friends who I
actually we were so close in age. Actually when I
was a dance teacher, I taught her and then she's
I got her the job at for Tina and she
was like, Lauren, you'd be great as an adult star.
And I was like, I never thought about it, and

(12:37):
what is that?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
That's kind of random? Where did that go? I always I've.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Always been sexual, Okay, so I like to give a
I don't know, I feel like society judges so much.
It's just always this is how it's supposed to be,
this is what you're supposed to do, this is well
And I never liked that, and I wanted to as
I started growing up and finding out who I am.

(13:00):
I wanted people to have a space where they didn't
feel judged. It's like a safe space. I want to
be people's safe space I want. And that's kind of
how it was. People knew it was very sexual obviously
inappropriate times, and if they had if they wanted to
talk about it and stuff like that, they could and
just all this has been like that, you know, So

(13:23):
she just knew. And it's funny. I still talk to
her this day, like she knows that she started this.
She was the one that planted to see and I
just after that, I googled and that was how I did,
and yeah, I went. I had to know if I
could be intimate in front of people. That's the only
thing I never did. So I went. I found out
about the swinging community, and I was like, I went

(13:44):
to a swingers club in Atlantic City called Roleplay Lounge,
and I was like, if I can be with somebody
in front of people, then I know I can do it.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
And I went there.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
So you went to a swinger's community, but you were
not with somebody, so you went as the unicorn. Right, Okay,
So these of you who don't know, the unicorn is
like a single person who goes to like a swingers club,
and it pretty much generally is always only a.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Woman, single female, because single females going to a club
is usually unheard of, right, but single males.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Is pretty well, aren't they aren't They generally like not allowed.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
They have nights where guys are allowed. I just don't
go on those nights because they flocked to you.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh, it's just like, I'm sure, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
But I went there and they treat me so great.
I'm sure. They did so nice. Even the club itself.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I don't think they're open anymore since the pandemic, but
they were so nice. They kept an eye on me,
they told me about the rules, they explained everything to me,
they kept they checked in on me, and they ended
up I ended up being with three couples that night,
and I was like, Oh, I can do this. And
if people don't know, like in the Swinging Like Club,

(15:04):
it's a group of people that watch. It's not just
a few, it's a group. And I was like, oh,
I can do this. And January first, at twenty thirteen,
I had New Year's Eve supper with my folks because
a German tradition is that you're supposed to have pork
in sauerkraut for the New Year. Packed up my car
and drove all the way to Florida, sixteen hours by myself.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Ready to start in the adult industry. Did you tell
your parents that you're going to go do Okay, no
they know no, but yeah, at the time, you're going
to strike out on your own.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
So what was the first like, what.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Was your first step into actually like shooting professional content.
So in Florida, it's amateur pro and I knew I
had already researched. I didn't know where I was going
to live yet, but I knew where I wanted to live,
so I didn't want I did not want to live
in Miami.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
It's overly priced.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
And I was a single female and I needed to
be safe, so the places that I could afford was
unsafe for me. So I knew I was going to
do that, and I think I looked at Fort Lauderdale.
I didn't like that either, but I fell in love
with the clear Water area and it's only a four
hour drive. I was like, I'm from New Jersey, I'm
used to driving.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
We can do that.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
So I moved there and I didn't even find an
apartment yet. I was actually living in a hotel out
of my car, and I had talked to one of
the agents I was. I had never signed with them,
and I was like, I want to do this, and
I're like all right, drive to Miami. I was like great,

(16:46):
And I with all of my stuff still in my car,
and I had found a cat sitter because I had
two cats with me God, And it's so funny because
I'm like, you can definitely tell I was in my
twenties because now I'm not like that, like I have
everything planned out. And I drove to Miami and I

(17:09):
did three scenes there.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Wow, do you remember the company that was for?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yes, my first ever scene was for Reality Kings. Of
course I was I knew you were going to say that,
and it was called mouth to ball, mouth to ball, okay.
And they how I got that scene is they you know,
they oh, can you do this position? And it was
like a medicine ball doing like plow pose for like

(17:35):
in yoga okay, And I was like, yeah, I can
do that's super simple. Yeah, And it was so great.
My male talent was great, the director was great. I
had so much fun. They explained everything to me. The
only thing I didn't know how to use was a
douche and never a douche, so I had to figure
that out myself. But everything else and then my other

(17:58):
my second scene was for mofos mm hmm. And the
agent that had gotten for me was astonished about how
I know how everything went because it was my first
I don't know how to say this booty scene.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Okay, it's okay, eight minutes.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I was like, first scene. I was like, your first
first anal scene. So your second scene ever was your
first anal scene. Yeah, I didn't get my first anal rate.
I don't even know if they do that anymore, but yeah, yeah,
yeah they I got. I got and you didn't charge
more for that. Yeah I got jipped. Yeah yeah, you
didn't know.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
But uh.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
And the funny part is is when I was I
stretch out. I stretch out my booty before and I
still do that to say, but I woke up in
the morning, I had coffee at a muffin. I was like,
and the and the agent was like, what are you doing?
And I was like, I'm eating and he's like, you
have an anal scene and I was like yeah, and

(19:02):
I know everything was fine by the time we got there.
The digestive system was fine, Like and I did that.
I forget the name of that was was. But and
then the third scene I did actually never came out,
and I was so glad because that was probably that
was the first hard scene I ever had. So I
didn't know how to ab live like very well because

(19:23):
I had just started. So they had us outside and
first thing, my male talent was a fucking dick.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm not good like he was. He was.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
He got pissed off because I was taller than him, okay,
and uh, he was just really cocky. And we're outside
and we had to do a couple hours. I fucked
up the first time. The rest of the time he
fucked up. And they had put me in a metal chair,
not thinking that I. Yes, I have fair skin, so
if you put me in a metal chair, my butt's

(19:55):
gonna bruise mm because.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
The weight of my butt.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
So when we got done, I had a nice bruise
mark on I think my left butt cheek, so we
instead of putting makeup on it, which now I would
just and then as you know, seeing what progressive it
starts showing, they'll just think someone, you know, the guy
bruised me, which is fine, But we go to go
into sex and they're hiding my bruise with his hand

(20:23):
and he's just being cocky. And I remember this is
the first time we were on the bed and my
shin was going into the bed frame and I'm trying
to adjust and they're like, what are you doing. I
was like, I'm moving and I was like, because I'm
hurting myself and they were like, stay there, welcome to porn.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
That scene never came out, and I'm so glad they
used the photos for it, but they never used the
actual footage.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
It was the like that guy, I'm so glad I
never had to work with him again. But I was like,
is he still working or no? Okay, wow, But that
was my one time where I was like they said,
welcome to porn. And people have been like that, Like
I've had some people like that. I had a couple agents.
One said, uh that my body type, like oh, you're

(21:11):
not going to do anything with your career and stuff
like that. I had another agent when I was trying
to uh do more more porn in Florida, he was like, oh,
I'm sorry. You know that's what happens. Porn uses you
and spitches you out. And then I see where I'm
at right now, and I'm like, yeah, because that's just

(21:34):
how it is. So even the agents I have now,
when I first did interview, they told me I was
fat and I had to lose weight. Do you remember
like when we first met, Yes, I do. That was
a hard day. I felt I remember, oh my god,
it was on DP start right, yes, yeah with uh.

(21:59):
It was almost like I almost like no America's got talent,
but like you had to do a certain like and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah. And that was a rough day.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, And they made they wanted me to say mean
things to you. Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I do too, And I'm very sorry. I still think
about that and it makes me feel really shitty.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I remember they were met. They made the one girl cry, Yeah,
I forget her name. She had brown hair, and she
went in the back and started tearing up because I
remember one of the things was like.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Was that the girl that said I ruined her life?
Did she? I don't know. I don't know. They because
they wanted straight brown I.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Think I can't remember. They wanted like so much. They
wanted drama, right. And I remember going on that show
and it was me, Nicki, Benn's and this like comedian
were the judges. Yeah, and I remember like talking about
it before and and and my whole thing was like
I'm not a mean person, like I don't I'm not

(22:55):
like like like I don't want to be mean to
the girls, like so I'm not the Simon cowell of
the show, and they told me I wouldn't have to.
But then when we got into it, they told me
I was boring. They said, you're boring. Your segments are
the least exciting, and we need drama and we need
you basically to be mean to the girls. And I
was like, but I wouldn't want to do that, so

(23:16):
they would like make me say shit. They're like, well,
you have to say something negative, and I'm like I
did so, like.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
I remember, like yeah, because I think they.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Told me to tell you that I didn't like your hair.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, it was I was told that my hair was greasy.
That's what they told me, and that's my photos. I
needed to learn to close my mouth.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
And then there was another one and I think I
think it was NICKI or somebody it was either. I
think it was NICKI that said that I wouldn't make
it in this industry. That they and I was like,
I'm I was a dancer, so I'm like, go at it.
And then I'm like here I am and look at
and where's that show?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
No, seriously, I felt so bad for that girl though
she was in the back crying.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, it was horrible because I think because I was new,
I wasn't even with an agent yet, it was awful.
Had I had That's when I had.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
My dark hair because I didn't I hadn't gone light yet.
That was like more my care color. And I had
just moved to LA and I needed to get exposure
because I didn't want to go with an agent.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I wanted to be independent. I think I they had me.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I don't know if they had me or one of
us had to tell her because like I don't know
she had like she did in masturbation. There was like
some cream or something, which is natural, but they I
don't remember if they made me say it or someone
say that she had to go douche or something, and
I think that's what it was. And then she like
went and cried and she was so humiliated, and I'm

(24:51):
pretty sure she said it was meat that.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Ruined her life. And I lost it.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I went and I cried backstage, hysterical and like Kieran
had to come back and like try to like I
remember trying to get it again, freaked out, yeah, and
I was.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Like, this is not who I am. I'm not a
mean person.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I've spent my whole life, like trying to build girls
up and you're trying to make me tear them down?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Is it not what I signed that for? And there
is a level so I cried to.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
That was yeah I only needed like I only needed
that for exposure.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, and I didn't, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
And at the time, like it felt like and it
was like a big opportunity and I just you know,
and there were a big company and I like I
didn't know how to like say no, I didn't know
how to set my bath.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Like now i'd be like different, Yeah, right now, I
feel like I'm not saying that.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, it's different now. It was way different back then.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, you know, it was a lot about networking if
you weren't with an agent, because you had there's companies
that would not book you without an agent, and.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
You had to network.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
I remember going to all of the parties networking and
getting everything. Like I remember when he wanted me to
come back and I was like he gave me and
have to deal with that. Yeah, and then uh, because
I was without an agent for a year and it
wasn't that I wasn't successful.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I was successful.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I was getting like that at a minimum of scenes
that I wanted and a maximum of scenes that I wanted,
and I always landed in between, and there's just some
I wanted to get more features and I needed you
know this, guys, I started, I started delegating, and that's
just how. But every everything that I went towards has

(26:30):
always been this is my my business thing.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
But I think it's such a great example of like.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You didn't hurt my feelings, just let you good. I'm
still here okay.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Too, because I like, I'm not even joking.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
This is like what like I don't know, like six
years ago or something, because we were together anyway, I know,
but like I have never forgotten that, Like it has
bothered me, like to this day, I say that all
the time.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
I've had so like I was in a dance community,
I've been like Nick and prodded.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I don't know. I remember you were really good about it.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You were like but for me, I was like, oh,
I was like I hate this, Like it really made
me feel.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Like shit is I have a very specific body type.
I have a very specific look, and I have a
very specific voice. And at the end of the day,
I am who I am, and my fans are going
to love me for who I am, and that's just
how it always is. Everyone wants to this is the demand,
this is what's going No, my fans take what I

(27:27):
give them. Yeah, because at the end of the day,
they like me and who I am. And it took me.
First thing, It took me a long time to get
to that. But especially I know I have a very
specific voice, and I always been very self conscious about it,
to the point that I actually was going.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
To get like voice lessons.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Oh really, Yeah, and then everyone there's people out there that, oh,
I love your voice, and yeah, this is me, this
is it.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
But I think you're such a great example of somebody
who came in who wasn't cookie cuttered. You went through
like this kind of pubb like grueling process of being
picked apart and told that like you weren't going to
make it because you didn't fit like this perfect demographic,
and you said, go fuck yourself, and you worked hard
and you put your head down and you found your
niche and you're like insanely successful.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Like how many awards have you won? A lot?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah, because remember when I first came out, like curvy
wasn't in Yeah, tall wasn't in there. Wasn't as many
gingers as there is now, like the only the only curvy.
I don't even think Angela White yet was as big
as she is now, and she was, She's curvy just
like me. And I don't even think Natasha Nice was

(28:39):
as curvy as she is now either, Like there wasn't
a lot of curvy girls, and I was just curvy
and I'm still curvy. This is probably the curvy as
I've been so far. But I had big hips. Yeah,
I got big hits. I got a big butt and
it ain't gone nowhere. Yeah, but I have those birth
and hips. Yeah, this is me and I My goal

(29:03):
is that I just want to be raw and that
when I feel things like if you look, if I
get hurt on on a scene, you can tell like
I'm not gonna like you'll see it in my face.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
And stuff like that. But break You'll still do this.
You'll still do this. Tell you right now, no one's.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Probably ever even going to know. That's crazy, that's insane.
Like I had after I got done that scene, everyone
told me I was like superstar and I was like,
all right, My goal now for the industry is yes,
I want male performed the year. But I am going
to push to be the first male performed the year
to be nominated for Female Performer of the Year, because

(29:41):
they've never done that. Really, they've never done it. Once
you're considered MALF, you cannot go for female performed a
year just as male performed a year. Have never won
multiple times male performed the year, but you can win
multiple times for female performer a year. Interest saying our
male performerty year, Like, you can do that, but not
for MALF.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
We're talking about spiz Anabian.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Out of my knowledge. Anyway, if you can, if you
can prove me wrong, go for it. But have all
the things. Have you ever seen a male performer of
the year ever win or be nominated for female Performer
of the year.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I don't know. I'd have to research it.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
I'd have and they and it's not like a female year.
And then all of a sudden they switched to MILF.
That's different. But I was like, I'm like, I'll get it. Yeah,
changes need to happen, so female.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah you are, this is truthful.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
To see one is one is mommy and one is
just female.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
But no, it's just just who I am.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah. Yeah, porns, some really great though, to build my confidence. Yeah, yeah,
I love it. I love everybody. It's my family, it is,
it's so my family. Yeah, I can't wait to get back.
I literally say, I can't wait to get back on set.
And like you know, I got hurt who cares, and
so the feet through the community as well. The future
dancing is becoming my family too. The pony Nation has

(31:04):
opened up a whole new world for me as well,
and I really can't wait to really merge and have
the entire adult industry together.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
At one point, so I wanted to ask you something
because you mentioned how much you miss being on set
and how much you see the adult industry as a
community and a family. So obviously COVID changed things dramatically.
COVID kind of combined with like OnlyFans and how much
only fans exploded and creators started to.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Really make like so much money on their own.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Where we saw a lot of really popular performers kind
of stopped doing studio porn right and just do their
only fans and that kind of thing. And a lot
of directors and producers have complained that it took a
lot of like the big stars out or if you know,
stars are on set now they only do it for
the traffic, but you are still shooting a lot of porn.

(31:55):
And it sounds to me like you really like enjoy
being on set. So maybe tell us a little bit about,
like you know where you stand.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Well, first things, nothing of is nothing of, Like, oh,
this is a new thing. I've been a content I
started what we used to call a clip artist, which
is now as a content creator, which is the same thing.
I've been doing that since the beginning. So this whole like, oh,
now we're putting making our own car, I've been doing
that since the beginning.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
What platform did you start on?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I did a couple poor nos, and then I needed
my whole business thing is how am I going to
stand out at the forty thousand ladies? How am I
going to stand out? So I started camming. I've been
camming on Chatterby for your CD. I still work with
them to this day. They're like, they treat me so well,
they're so amazing. And then I started on my first one.

(32:47):
It's either I want clips or many evids. I think
we were my first two ones. I want to say
was many evids because I wasn't a I went clips
was very dumb and I wasn't really like that yet.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, I know I had knew.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
I knew about clips for sale as well, but I
think those were my and then uh, sex Panther was
sex Panther since the beginning.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, uh there was, there was. There was.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
So when a pandemic hit, like I still had passive income.
That's the problem is people don't think of this as
a business and like, oh, f is an active income.
Like when I leave here, I got to go edit
my my clips and so that like I have a customs.
I've had to shoot, and I did all my customs
in one day, so I have to edit them so
that I can send them out. It is active income.

(33:38):
Yeah right, it is never going to be passive income. Yeah,
only fans is definitely not like I said it and
forget it. Kind of like the what you generated is
through engaging with your fans exactly regularly. So passive income
for me was fine. I was already I already was
still camming on chatterbait, I had many VIDs, I had
I went clips, I had all my clips stuff that

(33:58):
just so like shooting is just is like extra income
you should have. I was always taught you never have
your eggs in one basket. And that's how it's always been.
So when the pandemic hit, and of hit, and for me,
like all the like, I was finding up the ladder,
like I want to make a name for myself, and
I was only and all the all the other one

(34:20):
big stars went. I was like, Sayonara, here slides in
Lauren Bye, I you missed your chance.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'm still here.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I know the marketing that comes with this, and I
ain't leaving. I am very nineties porn star. Like I
love being on set. I I love having a script.
I love ad living.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I love going on there.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
And I know the lighting person, I know the sound person,
I know my director, I know I know basically all
the makeup artists. It's just we all know each other,
and it's just it's fun for me.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I love it. I just love it.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
You don't mind like the long days on set? What
are your favorite kinds of scenes to shoot? Gonzo features?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
We don't shoot a lot of Gonzo that much anymore,
not like it used to be. Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I haven't shot with Evil Angel for a hot minute now.
But I do a lot of step Mom like a
lot of stepmom stuff, but I.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Used to you get stuck on the washing machine a lot.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I have only once, only once, and I told him.
I was saying, why am I getting stuck? Like how
am I getting stuck? And like you're just getting stuck
And this is before I think I don't Overliz. It's
funny because when I shot that, and I actually shot
the getting stuck, I was doing two scenes that day
and I was living in Vegas at that time, so

(35:46):
I woke up at one am in the morning, did
the four hour drive, and my female talent ended up canceling,
so we had to wait for somebody else. And so
my first scene was playing the stepmom that didn't know
how to like use a vacuum, and I was like,
and then I get stuck in the tryer.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was like, what do you guys? What do you try?
Saying like do I just play dizzy really well?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I was like, but now I've been like I've had
a lot of like step children, a lot of foster children,
a lot of adopted children, a lot of children from children.
I was like, I was just I have I have
a big.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Family, like a U industry really is a big family.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
But I love it. I I can ab live really well.
I have now found my my Everyone knows what they're
kind of like. Unless I'm really tired, I usually am
trying one hundred and ten percent. I don't mind being
a twelve hour day is the norm now. Like I
back in the day, you could be especially with Gonzo,
you try to be on what for three hours? I

(36:48):
think you knew by what we were getting shot. So
if you're al, it's going to be a boy girl,
it's like this. You knew you were only gonna be
there for four hours aal you know, could be six,
you know, and then when you added more stuff, it
was like, you know, six to twelve features or usually
twelve or more. And uh, now it's just eight to
twelve hour day because a lot of it's just scripts

(37:12):
and I don't I don't think I've done a lot
of Gonzo anymore, not that I don't want to, but yeah,
it's just not in right now. Everyone wants a script,
every wants features. Yeah, there's a lot of dialogue now.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Now you're known as the ultimate Ginger, right, so what
earned you that nickname?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I did? You just called yourself that.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I start out with America's favorite ginger. Okay, and it's
just planting scenes. Okay, that's all. You start calling yourself
what you want people to believe, and you'll be surprised.
It's called influencing.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
M Okay, you manifest it, You're like, that's on my
vision board, and then you just become that.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I wanted people so the as I was America's favorite ginger.
And then I told my pr I said, I want
to be the ultimate ginger. I want everyone When I
think of ginger, they think of me.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
And I currently, I've never switched. I've always been a ginger.
I might have been strawberry, like a strawberry blonde at
one point, but that didn't last too long. But I've
always been this color. I am the longest performing ginger
without changing to another hair color. That means blonde, purple,

(38:20):
any color, any color. I've always been. When people think
of a ginger, they think of me.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I mean, it's a fetish. My dad actually loved redheads.
That was like his thing.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
There is a very specific fetish, and there's sometimes I
don't get booked for things because of my hair color.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
So it's just it's fine. Yeah, but I pushed through it.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
And I always tell everyone who comes in with a ginger,
just let you know you're going to be tight acid,
And that's just how it is.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
So it's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
But everyone that I've known that has had ginger have
changed her hair color. That doesn't count anymore. Once you change,
you're not considered a full on ginger anymore. That's how
I think of it. So that's how I can got
the ultimate ginger.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Now, you're also known to do some pretty like extreme scenes, right,
what would you say is like your specialty and what
are some of the most extreme ones that you've done.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
I am known for my anal specifically gaping. I do
not prolapse. That is like a no for me. I
don't know anything that's really bad for my body. And
pushing your organ outside of your your body is that's
a prolapsing is Yeah, So you're basically taking your what
rectum and you're pushing outside of your body, which then

(39:35):
is very dangerous because you can expose to bacteria. Also,
there is a ligament that's holding your rectum in and
if you snap that, you have to get surgery. So
I have no desire to do that. But but I do.
Gaping is my thing. I can keep my butt pretty
wide once it's open. The most extreme that I've done

(39:57):
is probably U. I did triple anal. I did a
ten guy gang bang. This was in Legal Porno in
Prague and the ten guy gang bang double anal. I
think there was triple uh triple penetration, and I think
we did triple anal and then they pissed in my

(40:19):
asshole and I pushed out and swallowed it.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
How was that? That's fun?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
They shoot very differently there, so yes, yes, were you
expecting that going into that scene or did it just
happen in the moment you just like were along for
the ride? Oh no, they told me the night before, okay,
so for some reason, yeah before, for some reason that
Europeans loved for me to get pissed on, and Georgio

(40:50):
text me and he's like, this is what we're doing
and we're going to add pissed to it, and they
obviously my my rate changes depending on like everything they paid.
I've never had any problems with Legal Porno mm hmm.
And I remember I was like, okay, and the guys
are so different there though, so so my experience I
can't speak to anybody else, but I did that. I

(41:13):
did legal Porno, flying in to Prague for three years straight,
doing it three times a year, and I would do
at least three or four scenes there for I would
stay for the entire week, and I got to know
these performers.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Even though we some of.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Them don't speak English, we actually learned how to communicate.
And they they support me. So like if I'm in
like heels and I'm trying to get my outfit off,
they had just grab me and they take my alf
and off. They support me when they hold in positions
to do double an you need an anchor right or DP,
they hold me there and if my hair gets in

(41:49):
my face, they move my hair out of my face.
It was great, like they and like they it's they're
they they're there to support. They're not they're not there
to be, oh, let me be the next male star,
male talent.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
They're actually there to support that. They don't they don't
make it about them.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, they know they're there and and that they're there
to make it move smoothly and flow smoothly. So if
they see that I'm tripping up on something, they'll just
pick me up and move me and it was great.
It was so like the ten guy Gangbang was like,
which is probably was cut into two parts. I think
I got that was like, that's an eight hour day.

(42:30):
There like a scene there took like four hours.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
It was done. Wow.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Makeup probably took the longest forty five minutes of sex
and that's it. It was like, by the time you
have so many, so much stimulation, it goes by so fast.
By the time you're done, you're like, oh, I just
want to eat. That was it, But now they were
They were always super great.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
To me, what is one of your favorite scenes you've
ever done?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
There's two that was really great, but my favorite I
think it was called Scream something and it was for
Kink dot Com and James had directed it and basically
and I think Xander was my It was my first
time working with.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Him Xandrad Corvis. Yeah, And I.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Was so excited because I was I've always been wanting
to work with them and I total that and I
was super excited. And this whole thing was I was
coming to you know, California at this time.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
This is with the Armory.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
So it was at the Armory, the Armory by the
way for those of you who don't know, it was
like a big old armory basically in San Francisco. That castle, Yeah,
like castle that was that they shot all the kink
scenes in.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
And it was like it's like an iconic.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Building and also like an iconic place that a lot
of porn was shot in back in the heydays of kink.
It was an amazing no longer shoot porn there. I
don't know what it is now.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I don't know it's I think they used it as
a historical building.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
But thing was that I was coming to La and
I had to be like, oh, I'm going to be
a store one day. So they had the whole busting
and me coming in and he's like trying to he's
pretending to be like an agent or a booking like person,
and there's like this cage and all of a sudden,
I get I end up in this cage and I'm
trying to reach for the key and there's like this

(44:20):
darkness in the back and he just you see me
just be snatched and I scream and then we go
into this whole like kink thing.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
So it was fun. It was fun to do that.
And then you said there was two and that was one.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
What was the other one?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I So I like this one because it was iconic
and so this is when the Armory this is also
for kink. They were closing it down. They weren't going
to do kink anymore. And the director wanted to do
a piece on me being a journalist of wondering why
we are losing the Armory, and I did. We did

(44:56):
a whole feature of me investing gating the Armory and
wondering why this, and then.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
It goes into sex and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
But it was very tedious and it was very the
details that they wanted to had like glasses and I
had this like I was like looking around and it
was very controversial of like why are we getting rid
of this iconic place that has so many memories? Yeah,
so I like that one because it was it was
sentimental I think.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I mean, first of all, there was a lot of
like issues I think like protests and stuff, and then
probably just money I guess.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah, I know there was a lot of like behind
the scenes stuff I don't know about. And uh, but
like I stayed there, I stayed and night. Did I
remember doing multiple scenes there. Yeah, and the before now
consent talks that we have, they were the first ones
to basically do it.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, Like the BDSM community was really good at those
boundary checklists and the consent way before the vanilla porn
community ever caught on. We never talked about that stuff
because I think we just thought, oh, we're not shooting
extreme kink scenes, we don't need to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Like I literally I remember when I would go Kink
would do it, and when I was always thought to
always ask, So even before they did consent, I always said, hey,
is there anything you don't like?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
It was?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
They always are so attentive. It's funny because it is
it's like that now. Yeah, but Kink started it. Kink
was like the directors to check on me. It was amazing.
I remember working with Aiden Starr was she she was amazing.
I did the Upper Floor with her and she could
tell that we were using an anal toy and my

(46:43):
butt started reacting to the toy and she looked at
my face and she knew right away, hold it out.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
We went to something else. Tell that too.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
When your director has been a performer and they understand
what it's like to be in that position.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Yeah, yeah, so attentive that that is talent right there,
when you can look at someone's face and you pay attention.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
You've earned a many awards, from Milk Performer of the
Year to getting inducted into the Night Moves Hall of Fame.
What award has meant the most to you?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I have two.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Milk Performed a year for ex Biz Amazing also this
year which I think I had just left the for
the EXPOS Executive Awards. I had just left because yes, yes,

(47:38):
being considered a business person, Yes, business Woman of the
Year Yes was probably the biggest.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yes because yes, because we were both up for that,
and then you won and they were calling your name
and I yelled out.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I was like, she went to bed, she has an
anal scene tomorrow. I waited so long.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
It was there, everyone's eating and drinking in front of me.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I can only have water.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
My call time, I think was at eight thirty nine
o'clock in the morning. It's starting to be pushed to
eleven o'clock at night. I still have a forty five
minute drive home.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
But you know what, that's why you won the award,
because look at you, You're thinking like a business woman.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
You got to seem in morning. You can't stay up
all night waiting for that trophy.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I was like, And the funny thing is I think
it was Susie Q. MISSQ was the one that announced
it and she's like, where are you? And I was like,
I literally just left of course, of course. But it
was a yeah, Creator business Person of the Year was
that one, And I think that was super big because

(48:48):
for me, you know, always it's like, you know, female
talent right now, I'm considered a business person. Yeah, which
was amazing. So yes, I was super stoked about that.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
So, speaking of being a business person, you are also
an ambassador for a couple of different brands. One of
them you're you're wearing on your across your chest right now.
Do you want to tell us a little bit about them?
So Pro thirteen.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Is a at home testing kit their facility and so
basically you can get these kits to actually test at home.
You don't have to go to the facility anymore, which
is great. So you get the test and you have
like a little like scan code you scan that's what
you register and the first time you do it, they

(49:35):
walk you through it.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
And you get like a telehealth video.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
They actually know though, they go on a meeting with you, yeah,
to make sure.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, they do. Yeah. Basically it's they it's live.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
They will make sure you fill out everything correctly. And
so they have like I don't know what the name
of the machine is. I wish I should, But it's
like a little like gadget that hooks to your side
of your thing, your arm, and it has you put
the little vassal and it has like a line and
all you do is you press it. It clicks, it

(50:07):
just pokes you a little bit and then it's it
suctions out the the blood. So it's suctions and it's
actually less painful of getting your arm your arm or
pricking yourself on your finger, okay, and it's faster because
it's suctioning out. And then once it's done, you just
take it off okay, and you put a band aid
on just and then you put your name and your date,

(50:30):
the dates and your birth dates and everything has a
little zip zip blocks to it. And they do throat swabs,
they do rectum swabs, they do uh gen talia swabs,
and then they do urine and it's it's so great
because I lay it all out all nice and organized,
and I'm like great, and uh it's and then I

(50:54):
just put it in a kit and it comes with
a label already. You put the label on and you
can either go to FEDE or I have Vetex come
and pick it up. And it takes twenty four hours.
My Usually they say that max is forty eight hours,
but I have proof that mine came in twenty four hours.
And they send you a text when they received it.
They send you a text of when they're going through it,

(51:14):
and then they send you an email with everything and
it's it's past accepts it and I've had I haven't
had a company that doesn't accept it. So and if
I'm correct, they also test for like herpies and stuff
as well. I have my test all. I actually even
know I'm not shooting right now. I gotta tested just

(51:35):
in case you change your mind now.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
But it's great.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
It's super simple, and it's like for this like when
the fires happen, like I couldn't get here, I am
like I couldn't get anywhere and I couldn't get tested,
and people still wanted to shoot. I could do this,
that's another thing. Or I can't drive right now. My
right foot's broken. Yeah, I can do it this way,
and people like, can now go wherever you are Chicago,

(52:04):
and I've done I've tested almost and I want to
say every state doing. I love talent testing to death.
They've always been my go to. I've tried talent testing CT.
The only one I haven't tried is clear.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
These are the different testing facilities for performers, by the way, and.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I've tried it where they're the third party and stuff
like that. And this song's been like the best so far.
Just you know, have it and I can just do it.
It's super simple. I have no marks, nothing not on
me anyway.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
M hmm.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
And uh it's super great. And everyone's like, how do
they know that you're not? It's somebody else DNA. You
have DNA and your fluids. So they make sure that
the DNA is correct and it all matches up.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
That's oh, okay, that's interesting, that's how they That makes sense.
Then they so then they get your original DNA blueprint
and then they match it to the sample that they get.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Oh that makes sense because I was going to ask
you that question. So do they need need then an
original DNA sample from you, like and your first guest.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
So that's why they do it.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
The beginning that you do it, they I walk you through.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
It and they watch you do it.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Okay, because once you have somebody's DNA, it's there, okay.
Because that was the first thing I asked, was because
we've had so many people fake their tack fake it.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, And I was like, how do you know?

Speaker 4 (53:22):
And there's through your DNA that makes sense. That makes
a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
And it's also great for people who aren't performers, just
for you know, the regular person at home who just
wants to test on a regular basis because there's actually
active and.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Yeah, I think I think people that are not in
the adult industry should get tested every thirty days no
matter what.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, where can people go to get this fabulous testing hit.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Well, you can go to pro dx Health. It will
help you set up everything on our Instagram is pro
dx dot Health. If you go through their website, you
get a percentage off your first test.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
And then you're also an ambassador for an adult dancing club.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
It's called the Pony.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
The Pony, so I am the first Pony ambassador for
the Pony Clubs, which is Jerry Westland. He owns thirty
six plus clubs. He is amazing. We call him Pony
Boss And basically I have a I deal with them

(54:33):
with being at their clubs, being at certain events representing
the pony and we it's the Pony Nation and intertwines
with everything that the chain that is pony. So Huntsville,
Alabama has Pony two. Also Rocket City show Girls is
under considered the pony, and then there's also the Mouse's Ear,

(54:57):
which is considered pony. I was at the Admiral Theater
and or Cargo that's owned by Pony Boss as well,
and I'm so I'm under that big umbrella and Pony
Nation is just amazing. They're like a big family, like
they actually like the House Girls and Mouse Mouse's Ear.
I think it was Johnson City was sending me videos

(55:20):
wishing me to be I hope that recovery and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
So yeah, So does that mean that you're like exclusively
dancing at those clubs or no.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
I'm exclusively ambassador for the clubs, gotch But I can
dance at other clubs. It's just they get first priority, gotcha.
So any type of events that they want to go to.
So like the one event I went to, I have
one that's coming up soon. So they're in July. There's
a pole competition and I am going to be a judge.
So yes, exciting I go. That's part of like my

(55:51):
my thing. Also marketing. I help them with that as well,
but it's always been late, like I've been with that. God,
I think I've been working with Pony for almost two
years now and I just love it. And we combine
like our brands together, so basically it helps us give
us a limited license to brand together and stuff like that,

(56:11):
which is great, awesome.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Well, oh my goodness, I just looked at all the
Patreon questions that you have. You've had two pages of
Patreon questions, So we're going to need to wrap up
this main interview to get to all of the Look
at this, I have more Patreon questions than interview questions.
That's how many people want to know more about Lauren fillwakedness.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I'm so boring though.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
So well according not according to these guys. So can
you tell everybody online please where they can find you
and thank you again for joining us.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Well, I'm Lauren Phillips. You can basically Google my name
and I pop up. I'm verified on Google. But if
you go to lp links which is lp l I
n k Z dot com and I have all of
my stuff, my social media is Lauren fills up because
I like to be filled up and that's all the

(57:04):
same as well.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Awesome, And then you guys can of course find me
on Instagram and on x at Holly Randall. Go to
peatreon dot com slash Holly Randall and filtered to watch
these streamed live and get access to the unfiltered uncensored
versions of these episodes. Go to hollylinks dot com for

(57:26):
access to all of my platforms. Thank you guys so
much for joining us, and I will see you on
the next one.