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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My
guest today went from shooting amateur content to becoming an
(00:31):
absolute powerhouse in the industry. And she is, in fact,
the first German to be inducted into the AVN Hall
of Fame. Welcome Texas, Patty. Thank you how Helen good?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Really good? Yeah, thank you for having me here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Of course, thank you so much for coming. So let's
let's begin with your origin story. And you know you
got started in Germany, so I'm really interested to hear
how the adult industry is different there. So what inspired
you to get started?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
To be honest, I would say it was by mistake.
That sounds bad, but I never planned something. It was
really I just slided into the industry. So my background
is more when I met my back in the day's
future husband right now, my husband, give him a name Patrick.
(01:22):
So when I met Patrick back in the days, we
became a couple and we were super open and we
were swingers, so we had I don't want to say
an open relationship because for me personally it's something different.
But we were open to have sex with other people.
(01:43):
Point that was the whole thing. So our whole environment
were people super open minded. We went to different parties
and actually there was a couple, super nice couple they
introduced us to that said listen, do you want to
move to a movie like I don't know next year.
(02:03):
It was always like a theme party. So we saw
us actually like once a year, and then they approached
us again. And then Patrick, we don't do that. And
then I said, like, yes we do that.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It was your idea.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, said no, I said yes we do that. Why
I said, listen, And I have to say I had
a regular job. I was a dental assistant. Before Patrick
had a regular job. He was a seller for dental stuff.
So we were both settled money wise. It was good.
We had a good life. It was really about the adventure.
(02:37):
And then I said to Patrick, no, no, we do
that only one time because right now we are young,
and think about when we are like, you know, I
was seventies, eighties, grandkids are playing around and when they
are gone, we're looking at us. Putting the DVD back
on the day DVD Brent New and the DVD player
and then look at us, both of us think, oh
(02:59):
my god, we were so hot back in the days.
That was the way everything started.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Wow, So what made you decide Like you said no
that first time, and then a full year later you
said yes, Like, what made you decide a year later
that that was something you were going to try? You
must have been thinking about it in that year, right, It.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Was always like an hour I would say more in
my hat, Yeah, it's about right, but in my hat.
And in the beginning was just overwhelmed. I thought like, yeah, no,
I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That, like it had never occurred to you before.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No, never, Ok. And there were like two people. I
didn't know them. I met them at the party, and
then they approached me, do you want to do a
pole movie? I was like, yeah, for sure, I'm not
doing that. But then for sure you know people a
little bit better. You're more experienced, even when it comes
to sexual stuff. Because I would not say I was young,
(03:58):
kind of young for the people. I were still old
when I entered the industry, but I was like twenty
six seven when I met Patrick, and I was sexual wise,
really onexperienced. And after a year I was like oh hey, yeah, right,
now I know how it works. And then I thought like, yeah, hey,
(04:19):
that's on my bucket list, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, and that's what we really think. Okay, So then
what was the next step? So you said yes, obviously
you talked Patrick into it. So where was like, what
was this firstborn scene that you did?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was super random, super amateur style. And I have
to tell people because when people will see here listen
to that, they think, like what they for that? They
went to a studio. Listen, We're just talking like VHS
was gone, DVD just entered the market. That was the
(04:54):
era when I'm talking about. So it was a production
studio company actually, more a production company sells this stuff
to different distributed to different people. And super Random was
just Patrick and me with another girl and she it
was a theme about like sex therapists stuff, so we
(05:18):
pretended Patrick and I we have an issue sexual wise
and so super gonzo style, not really scripted, easyps twenty
minutes and that was our first thing. When I look
at this right now, Oh my god, really, what did
I do there?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, back in the days for me, it was a
big thing.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, so you actually did the scene with another girl, so.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
She was only a part of the scene. She was
just sitting next to us watching us. Gave it as
advice as a sex therapist, and I had only sex
with Patrick. That was the whole first thing. And that
was also like one thing. I said, like, listen, if
we want to do that, it's only Patrick and me.
(06:03):
Someone else can watch sit next to us. I don't care.
Just you at me.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So that was the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, okay, So then how did you guys feel after
the scene.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I've had a maze. Patrick was like, I don't know.
And then Patrick was super scared because again DVD we
have back in the days, the DVD covers usually had
like four scenes on one DVD, and Patrick was scared
that our face would show up and from like on
the cover of the DVD. And I said, listen, nobody
(06:32):
will see us. They are like other people on it. Like,
I don't fucking care, and I felt really really good
about it. Patrick was like a mix. And then four
weeks later we got the DVD into our mailbox and yeah,
we were the only couple on the cover.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So so his nightmare came true.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Oh no, I was like yeah, oh yeah, you know what,
there are a lot of DVDs people don't probably a
lot of recognize those like shit. So yeah, whereas Nightmare
came true and yeah, and that was I would say,
really the start.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, okay, so after this DVD came out, like, were
you guys thinking about doing more or okay? So it
was a one and done. It was where you're going
to move on, continue to work in a dental field.
So what made you guys decide? Because obviously you did
another one afterwards.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, there was a point I didn't understand the industry
in the beginning completely. For me, it was just a wild,
wild West. We did one scene and that's it. But
what I didn't know is that if you do a scene,
other people, Distribution companies see you as well, other producers
(07:45):
see you as well. And as I now know, new
faces are always welcome in the industry. So and every
it's literally like a small family and everyone knows each other.
So they're like, oh, yeah, you shot with this couple.
How are they? Yeah, they are good. Do you will
to do it? I don't know, have your number? Yeah? Sure?
So production companies like called us or texted us back
(08:09):
in the day or emailed us and said, like, listen,
we saw you on this and this production. Are you
down for doing more? We would really love to work
with you. And then it was like one more, one more,
one more, and yeah, this is how it ends. And
then it just.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Continued to be one more and one more and one more.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It was really one more and then it just continued.
And then there was a point I guess in our life,
like Patrick and my life, where I said, listen, it
was obviously not only one DVD. We continued that and
right now we really have to think about if we
want to continue it or like cut it. That's it.
(08:52):
And then we had a big decision, and that was
because my boss was about to give his office away,
wanted to merge with another whatever. So he said, like,
you know what, you really have to think about it,
like if you want to take over the office, go
to the university study and then come back and then
(09:15):
take my office over. I would love that you do it.
So I was literally sitting with Patrick together pro and
con was like becoming a porn star working and owning
a dental office. What should we do? And then obviously
we all know what happened.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You decided to sink your teeth into the point industry exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, that's actually what happened. Yeah, so I skipped it
because I said to Patrick, listen, we have to think
about it if we are going for that. And again,
I love my job. I still like, would love to
do it because I think it's I just loved it.
I worked sixteen years in a don't love and I
really loved it. But I said to him, if we
(10:03):
do that, we are stuck. We will stay on one place,
in one little village where we have the office. We
can't leave that. You have a huge responsibility and I
saw that over the sixteen years, like if you want
to go for a vacation, you can't do anything spontaneous
because your schedule is book with patients and stuff like that.
(10:25):
And that was really do we want to have the
adventure and maybe a higher risk or do we want
to be on the safe side. And then I said like, no,
I really want to see more. I just don't want
to get stuck in one little village and sitting in
this office for the rest of my life. So that
(10:47):
was why we took this decision.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, wow, was there a part of you that thought
maybe we'll do porn for a while for a few years,
We'll see where it goes, and then we can we
can always come back to the dental yeh, office life, Like,
was there a part of you that thought that that was.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Because I was naive? I thought like, this is not
a huge thing. Have you doing porn? Like you can
always go back? Yeah, there's no point of new return,
I guess. Yeah. I mean we all talking about like, oh,
porn is so much more welcome in the main street.
It's not. I mean we still get to judge, you
know that. Yeah, and to go back it's hard. I
(11:28):
didn't know that at the beginning. But I was also
ever with Patrick together a person. There's no like I
do it a little bit. I'm all in, yeah, and
I have a goal and I have to reach that
goal before that I will not stop. So it was
pretty obvious that this is not a thing for like
(11:49):
the next two years and then I go back to normal.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Was there any like milestone that you reached in your
career where you realize, like, Okay, this is this is
definitely the career path that I'm going to follow for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
This is something that I was made for.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I would say, in the beginning, I had a couple
of milestones. Yeah, because my first convention I don't know,
sixteen seventeen years ago in Germany, was.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It Venus Berlin.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, the Venus in Berlin.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Which by the way, I only just recently learned all
the fans can go naked to.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's great. I love that ever amazing,
it was amazing. Yeah, so went there. I had, I
would say, my own little booth. Not really, I have
a little lecuate can sign. It was the first time
that I printed out autogram autographs on myself, and yeah,
I printed I don't know, a thousand. I took all
(12:42):
thousands back home because nobody knew me.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I was so like, that is my greatest fear, Like
I've never signed it a booth before, and I am
convinced that if I did that, that would happen to me,
like nobody would come, nobody would want my autograph, and
I'm not, Oh my god, I'm I'm sure no, I can't,
Like I would just be like that person's like.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, I mean it is hard, don't get me wrong,
because you I signed at the booth from a huge
company back in the day, so they had like these
exclusive stars and I was just yeah, a plus whatever. Yeah, yeah,
I was just an add on. I would say. There
was like a long line for all of those girls,
not me, And then some people came up at me
(13:29):
and I really tried to keep my smile and people
came up to me and like can do a picture
of us?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yoh.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So yeah, the first years were like fuck. And then
my biggest goal when the convention was over, said like,
I want that people recognize me. I want that people
staying there waiting to talk to me. I really want
to have that attention. So at that point it was
like that's my goal. And then for sure it takes
(14:01):
a little bit to establish your name and stuff, and
then yeah, I reached that goal. I worked for a
big company in Germany, Adult Company as well, but they
also had a TV channel, so it was.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
More like.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Documenting things, went to different events, interviewed different people, still
like active in front of the camera, but I had
like a couple of my own serios and it was
really really nice. So that gave me also like a
huge push in my career. So I had a couple
of milestones. Yeah, and I reached them, and I was
(14:40):
every time, never like okay, great, I was like cool, next, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know, there's a lot of controversy around what is
a good age to start porn at. Right, there's a
lot of people who believe that eighteen is too young, which,
of course is the age that one can start porn at.
You started a little bit later, as you said, are
you glad that you started later or do you wish
that you had started earlier? And how do you feel
about the age of eighteen as the age that you
(15:08):
can start.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think the age of eighteen is way too young.
Maybe some people will hate me for that to saying that,
but I really think, yeah, it's way too young with eighteen.
I don't want to say everyone, but the most girls
are too young with the age of eighteen. I would
really love that they could only enter with twenty five
(15:35):
because I if I think of myself when I was eighteen,
I don't know about shit. Yeah I had sex, for sure?
Was it good sex? No? Could have sayed when I
was eighteen no, because I didn't know. I didn't know
what else is there. And I think also if you're eighteen,
(15:56):
you're unexperienced. You listen to people differently, especially I don't
know when they are older or when they have something
to say in the industry when they are big players,
and the influence what people can make to younger people
in the industry is super huge, even if it's not
on purpose. So I really think twenty five would be
(16:20):
a great age. I think it will never happen, but yeah,
I really take when Patrick and I when we produce
in Europe, I always take care of that people are older.
I know it's a good selling point.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Because it isn't the age of consent sixteen in some countries,
not for sex in general.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, like between two people, for example Germany, it's sixteen.
If two people I'm not talking about someone is fifty
and the other is sixteen, right, But if like two
teenagers have sex and both are like over sixteen, it's legal.
It's it's not against the law, like for both have
(17:07):
to do the content, but yeah, it's legal, it's fine.
Nobody can complain about this. But just showing up for
in front of camera it's different. It's still like eighteen
in Europe, and I think it's just too young. Yeah, yeah,
and I would love that they are older.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Somebody was telling me, I think it was sixteen, maybe
at some point before the Internet or something.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like, oh, yeah, that could be because it was a
huge issue.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think it was sixteen, like before the
Internet came along, because I remember somebody saying that, like,
because you know, there was the whole Tracy Lord's scandal,
who was sixteen, but like her content could still be
distributed in somewhere in Europe, but it couldn't be distributed
anywhere here. Yeah, because sixteen was obviously a minor but
(17:52):
there were some countries in Europe where it.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Was like, I mean something I would not No, I
with you, I agree, I don't know, but yeah, I
mean for me, I started, let's say twenty six twenty
seven was my age. Do I wish I were younger? Yes?
And no. Yes, in the meaning of I could achieve
(18:17):
so much more thinking why is mental? No, I was
a great age. I had my experience. I started this
whole journey. I got offers for anal so often. I
didn't shoot anal at the beginning because I was like, no,
(18:38):
that's between my husband. Really, I thought like this and
I didn't want to do it, so I didn't. And
I think when I was eighteen at that point. Probably yeah,
someone might have said, yeah, talk me into it. It's
harder to establish boundaries when you're younger, correct, And this
(18:59):
has only something to do with your life experience. And
it's also not a bad thing to say no. But
if you're eighteen, you see differently. You're a little bit like,
I don't know, you have the fear that if you
say no, they will never call you again, they will
(19:21):
never book you again, something like this. And this is
huge different if.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You get always some eighteen year old who's going to
do it.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And that's the problem. Yeah, And that's for me personally,
really a big issue. So yeah, in general, I don't
regret that I started so late, because this is also
a reason why I'm still in the industry, because I
only did things. I mean, there are a couple of
things that are like, yeah, I would not do it again,
but hey, I did it, I signed up for it.
(19:54):
Would I do it again, No, But there are other
things I would never have experience without the industry it again, yes,
under percent, I'm down for it. So they're like the
majority is really yeah, happy about it, Happy that I
joined the industry so late, And it's sometimes a good
thing to say, no, what.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Are some of the things that you tried that you
wouldn't do again.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
In Germany, for example, we had some our productions were
like gang bang situations, and I don't want to say
that I will not do a gang bang again. I
love it, but the way the setup was, I would
not do it again. So it was really a gang bank.
People could join the gang bang with masks and stuff
(20:38):
like that, so I would be so much more particular
about people who are attempting the scene.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You want to have more control over who's in the
gang bang.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, exactly. And it was not a bad experience. It
was nice and I really enjoyed it. But when I
look at the footage right now, I really think like, yeah, no,
in this scenario, I will not do it again. I
still love the whole scenario, but yeah, not in this setting.
This is, for example, one thing. Or there are also
(21:10):
some public stuff I did which I still like and
the people like it. But even nowadays I would think like, yeah,
no if a company. If I do it myself is
another thing. But if a company hires me for public stuff.
In Germany it's easy or in Europe to do like
public outdoor sex. You will not go in j for that.
(21:35):
But I'm always super protective of who can see me.
I mean, to keep it real. I don't want to
have sex and like a group of children showing up
or something like this. Back in the days, I was
less experienced. So when people ask me production companies in
(21:55):
Europe like, hey, it's an outdoor do you want to
do this? It's a boy girl outdoor scene. And I
said yes, and I didn't ask for any details. I
would not do that again. So these are, for example,
some things and not like sexualise. It was really about this.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to like be more
responsible exactly in your choices.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
That makes me grew up.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
A little bit more, and then you make you think
differently about things.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
What are some of your favorite scenes that you've ever done?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
My favorite scenes were really maybe people like really really
the double anal stuff. And this is really a thing
I would never ever experience in my regular life because
it's just hard. It's hard to find like two or
(22:46):
three people who are down for this. I mean, this
is actually like really a sword fight, and some guys
don't like it and they need to keep getting hard
even if they are, Like.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So basically you've got to be find some guys that
are willing to like rub their.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Dicks together exactly, which yah, yeah, not everyone's up for that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
And then there's the whole like setup, like I mean
there's less space and like to get squeezed in and stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
So I really really tough.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
They are, Yeah, and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, And
I think some people think like, oh my god, she's
crazy and it looked rough maybe on camera. But this
is also one thing what the most people don't know.
It's super gentle and those people are super nice and
(23:48):
like in between when the camera is rolling there and
when they see the camera is going lower, so the
face is kind of cut off because the camera operator
need to see mold close up the situation. Yeah, it's
like it's a super cute situation. And I loved it.
I enjoyed it so much. And this is really one experience.
(24:11):
Without me in this industry, I would never have a habit.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I've shot a few gangbangs and it's always so funny
to me exactly what you said, Like you see, you know,
people see the edited version, but they don't see the
in the between takes where you know, you you take
the moment and then the guys stop and you know,
and they like, you know, check.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
With the girl. How are you feeling? You need some water?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Like you know, and they and they'll talk to each
other like okay, so you go in next and like
are you cool with us doing this? Or like they're
talking about the game and they're laughing and like it's just,
you know, it's so different, and everyone's smiling and you know,
they're all friends, like we all know each other. It's
such a small community. And then the camera rolls and
then they're like, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Then like it's just but it's like it's just so
different because it's acting exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it's a part of acting. Yeah, absolutely correct. So
if people come up to me and say like, oh, no,
you're more the hardcore version, I always think, no, I'm not.
I also enjoy really lovely girl girl scenes like if
you have an amazing and you have a good vibe
with the other person, Oh my god, I love that,
(25:25):
Like super vanilla stuff, I love that as well. But yeah,
for that question you ask, it is really one thing
I would never have experienced.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So for those who are watching this, and they're like,
I want to see this double anal scene, Like where
can they go?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Where is this scene that they can see?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I think the most people know this side. It's lele Pon.
I shot it back in the days for pepe Porn,
which they are based in Czech Republic, and I know
some of them. They are like, oh, it's the worst company.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah I know them.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah. I for me, they are always super nice because
when they ask me to do the scene, I just
told them right away I never did it. There's no
way I can try to figure it out by myself
because I think with two dealers it's a totally different game.
And so I said like how do you get Like yeah,
(26:15):
how do you hold yourself.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Up with one hand?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And like yeah, no way. So I told them because
I was in Europe these days, and I said, listen,
let's do an agreement. I come to your studio. We
will try it. If I can't do it, I don't
want to be responsible, like for all the costs for
(26:39):
the guys and everyone else to show up before the
patient camera and whatever. And if I can't do it, okay,
hotel is on me. I come on my own costs.
So you don't have to take care of this. So
that's the deal. And he said like, yeah, I know
you can do it, and I will. I know you
will enjoy it, so yeah, let's do it. And so
that gave me also the freedom of I can say
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no at any point if I not enjoy that or
I like physically can't do it, because I didn't do it.
And that was super nice and I loved it that
they offered me this opportunity. And then I shot like
three four times for them, and then.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, also, look the pressure off. That's nice.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
All right, So Patty, obviously you are German. What's the
biggest difference between American sets and German sets?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
There is not really any difference. I know you would
love to hear something else, but yeah, nope, Actually it's
really the same. We have the same setup. We have
a camera guy, sound guy, sometimes people who take care
of the wardrobe, makeup artists are there, so it's actually
really everything the same. I would say, uh, it depends
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for which company. I would say, the scripts are more
easier written down, because in Europe, I would say, everyone
is speaking English, but not in a really good way.
So to get a Spanish guy, a German girl, a
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check guy, and another guy. It's a fucking mass, right
because they are all like this heavy hot accents and
stuff like that. This is the only difference. So most
of the times, I mean, obviously because of my age,
the most of the time I'm shooting this move scenes,
so I'm the talker.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
The one I actually shot, and I used to go
to Prague every year and shoot, so I've shot in
Europe a few times, and honestly, like, the biggest difference
that I noticed was that they didn't the girls didn't
generally do over there. They just took a shower before
the scene. That was the biggest difference set of stuff.
But otherwise, yeah, everything was pretty much the same.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's true because it changed though. But I actually couldn't
find Douche there exactly. That's what I wouldn't find it anywhere. Yeah, no,
because it's not the thing there. I mean to be honest,
I experienced here this the first time that a producer,
I don't want to say he called me off, but
he was literally like, can't you go to the bathroom.
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It was like why, It's like you there is gurly stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Can you do the gurly stuff. That's I was like,
what is girly stuff?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I didn't know, so I didn't understand what he is
what that meant. And then someone explained me finally, and
I was like, oh, so it's that. Why is it?
Because for me, it's a natural thing. So if there
is a little bit like white thing on it or whatever,
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it's like just literally from your pussy it Yes, it
shows you. Yes, I'm into that. Yeah, so literally that's
what it is. But then I recognized, Okay, maybe on
camera it doesn't look nice because then it's like awkward. Okay,
I understand, So I don't know. I took it over,
so I'm doing it. It changed a little bit there,
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like in Czech Republic and Budapest, the most of the
girls doing it as well.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
They have started doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, oh interesting, but it's not a thing like it
is here and you can't go to the supermarket and
you have to go to a pharmacy and then you
have to explain literally what you get is more the
anal version of it.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I remember going there, and I remember
going because I had just started seeing my ex husband
who was English, and we were like going to have sex,
and I was like looking for a douche and I
was like, I would like all these stores because I
was like, I'm finally going to bang this guy.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And I'm like, there's no fucking douche.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And I like went up to the girl and she
was like I was trying to explain her or what
it was, and she was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
And I was like, you know, when you clean out
your vagina.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
She's like, why exactly, why do here? No? No, no,
it was really because it was just really not a thing. Yeah,
I learned to tear. And then someone explaineding like, oh,
don't believe the thing which is already in there.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
You take the volution out, you just put in the water.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I was like, a yeah, yeah, it's just not a thing.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's strange because it's different, like every woman figures out
what works for them, because I know that some women
like all the douche actually really throws off their pH
balance and it's very bad for them. So it's not
necessarily a good thing to do, but it's like become
so customary and typical and and here an American porn
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I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean if you go here to the
bathroom and there, like every everything is said.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's all there, Okay, It's a whole fucking line of
do yes.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
And I would say the other difference is when you
shoot in Europe, I would say, the expectations are a
little bit higher, so like it's obviously that you bring
your own towel, it's obviously that you bring your own
stuff with you literally, so yeah, and here like oh
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do you have a towel? Do you have this? And
sometimes I think, like, why don't you bring it by yourself?
I know understand that, so yeah. So I would say
this is another topic. And I would say the European
people just more direct, which is was a hard thing
for me to learn here that everyone is like super polite. Hey,
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we want to do pretty girls. I know we see
you fucking in a bit, but your hair covering your nipple.
Cannot put your hair away, Like, well, are you asking me?
I don't understand that. In Germany it's like nobody asks,
and not in a bad way, but I think it's
always how you used to things, yea. And also like
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in Europe, to be honest, if you do a scene
or whatever, and like the photographer or whoever is there.
And let's say there's a hair on your pussy, and
nobody will do a cut and say, hey, listen, we
have to interrupt. There's a hair, like the photograph is
just going there, peel it off and done. And I
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think this is so much time saving. Yeah, and I
love that, but I would say here, no.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, oh my god, especially now, like oh yeah, you
have to ask permission before you touch somebody.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, it's very It's the dynamic has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
In America, there's definitely this sense that Germans are much
more sexually open and uninhibited.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Would you say that that is true, that's true. Why
do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I don't know. I think one part of it is
that we in German we call it FKK. It's like
the culture of being naked that let's say, this is
not an accurate translation, but that's the meaning of it.
So we have beaches, everyone is naked. I think we
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just don't do such a big deal about being naked,
and that makes it more okay. Nobody cares so much
and even when you grow up orson For me, for example,
when I grew up, I always went with my parents
to new beaches. Why because my mom was literally like,
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I don't want to run behind you with your little bikini.
You're three years old changing diapers, changing that. So just
everyone is the same, and this is how I grew up,
and this is actually how the most people in Germany
grew up. Not all them for sure, but this is
a big thing. When it comes to sex, it is
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also because of this community who loves to be naked.
It's just a normal thing to have sex. I guess
that's the whole point, because here it's so different, like,
oh yeah, you can't sounder. For example, if you go
to a suner in Germany, everyone is naked and it's
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not a big deal. And you have days where only
woman and it's separated, but usually like it's one thing.
And I think that is also the reason why we
are so different when it comes to nudity, that we
don't care so much about things. And then there's the
legal stuff. If you have sex in public, for example,
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and the police is catching you, the only thing the
police is tell you like finish quake. So actually that's
what it is. So this is also the reason why
the most public stuff is shot in Europe. Because I
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don't want to say it's legal, but it's also not illegal.
Nobody will like call the beliefe you go into jail
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
There you can be like you can be like arrested
here and then be forced to register is like a
sex offender I know, which is literally one of the
worst things that can happen to you. It'll affect it'll
follow you for the rest of your life. Yeah, you
have to register on the sex offender registry. You have
to stay like five hundred feet away from schools.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
It is crazy, really crazy. So we don't have that,
and it's I think they were just like, hey, nobody
feel offended. You're not like in the middle of the
street or something, right, So you're like in a park
and nobody can see it. But some people can see it.
I mean they can just go by and whatever. So
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it's not a really big thing. And that's the reason
why the most public stuff is filmed in Europe and
that gets distributed in the internet. So what you people
see is like, oh, that's in Europe, that's in Germany.
They are not as fuck. I mean we are, but
I would say the most people would do it here
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as well if it's not like super against the law.
That's a reason. And the other reason is also like
with different ping. I mean the first scene I shot
here the producer asking me, ah, do you also do
the peace stuff? I was like, what do you do
the pea stuff? Why should I? Because you're German? I
was like, oh, okay, I didn't know that this is
on my birth certificate. So it's the thing. Why we
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are famous for that or why do all the people
think Germans are doing it? Because it's legal. You can
publish it, you can sell it, you can sell it
to all the websites. Everyone is seeing that. They see
the background where the people are coming from, all from Germany,
So Germany peeingal. So that's literally what it is. This
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is what I think. I don't know if I'm right
or wrong, but yeah, we are more open minded when
it comes to New tea.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So like growing up then you didn't obviously have like
the sense of shame around sex is like most Americans,
yeah have, Like did your parents like talk to you
about sex when you were a kid, Like how'd you
learn about sex? Because like the sex education is dire
in this country.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I mean, I would say it's all over. We have also,
like in school, but then you're in the age, we
have this cucumber and this condom and you think like
do you really have to do it? This is embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
So they do teach it in school.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a whole
fucking thing for it which goes over years, which I
think it's a good thing. Yeah, don't get me wrong,
but you're in an age where your crush is sitting
next to you, and then you have this cucumba with
this condoment you have to oh my gosh, yeah bad right.
But no, I grew up like really open minded. It
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was never a thing and I really like that because
for me, nudity was never like oh you have to
be ashamed of it. And even when I grew up,
there was a time when I was like fourteen fifteen
something like that and when I was like, ah, I
want to have I I want to show it's normal.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
It's normal when your body's changing it exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, yu bresa like growing and you feel different, you see,
you become a woman. And this was a point where
shifting things. But then I was also like, do we
still go to the nude beach and they were like yeah,
I was like, can't wear a bikini? Sure, so you
don't get judged for it. Even if you're like with
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the family there, then you have like, oh, you have
to be naked. So it gave me always the freedom
to be naked. And for me personally, I see why
do we wear clothes. We wear like cute dresses and
pretty hair and whatever, because that's how we want to
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approach the other people and tell them like, hey, this
is what I am. But if you're naked, you can't
hide anything. We are all the same. And I really
like that because I don't care if people are rich, poor,
if they have a good job, a bad job, if
they're married, or I don't fucking care. And if you
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as soon as you have like jewelry or whatever, you
start to judge people. Everyone is doing that and I
just don't like it. So, for example, on my vacation,
I always not always, but most of the time I
go into the South of Friends. There's a place which
is a little village. Everyone's naked there and that's actually
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my vacation and you meet all the people there. You
meet like super famous actors there, you meet lawyers everything,
But you meet also like people there have like a
regular job and they save the money literally for this vacation.
But everyone's naked, so you can't see any difference. And
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that's really what I like here.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, they can't like claim status by the things that
they put on their body, except for maybe surgery do that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
So I'm actually curious then, because I feel like religion
plays a huge part in this country about creating this
narrative of shame around sex and sexuality. What place does
religion have in Germany? Is it a Is there a
lot of strong religion religious connotation in Germany?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I would not say so. We have religion, for sure,
we have it. And I have also, like in Germany
people who are against what I'm doing, and that's totally fine.
I totally respect that. And if you're a super religion,
that's maybe a thing, but I don't know, it's not here.
It is really really sometimes ABM. When they have the
(42:26):
protests from like Jesus Church, I was like, oh, my
fucking God, And I think this is also like not right,
because I mean, I don't want to go too deep
in it, but in my perspective, the Bible shows us
everyone is equal. Why I'm not equal to you you
touched me because what I'm doing and so it is
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a thing, but way less than it is here you
have a couple of them. Sometimes I get like the
MS where people like, oh, you have to find too yourself.
I was like, I did it already, That's what I am,
and that's fine. But here it's really hardcore in my perspective,
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and for me also it has nothing to do with
I don't believe in God or in the church with
what we are doing, because I always say like, hey,
he told me go out there literally fuck around and
make a lot of kids. Okay, I skip the pot
with the kids, but the rest I did. My answers
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called it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I was just wondering because there's definitely people who are
like religious who go to church, like believe in God,
but also like don't have that really strong anti sex
work like belief built into you know, their doctrine.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
And so I was just wondering if in.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Germany, like people are religious but they like don't actually
care about like being anti sex.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
All that, like the last part. Really we still have
people strongly believe in whatever religion it is but not
strong strongly communicate against oh to how we don't have
that so aggressively.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So I heard you say in an interview that in
the US you're considered a milf, but not in Germany.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, I mean that changed. I'm getting older as well.
But when I start, yeah, it was a I don't know,
I would say in Germany you were on milk with early.
The earliest stage you can get in is with forty something.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I mean, it's funny because I'm sure you've seen this,
like milf has become one of.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
The biggest categories I know in porn.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Like when you know, I started twenty six years ago,
it was not a thing.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
No, no, you know what I mean. It was hard.
If you were older too.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I would say it was at work, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And now it's just like I mean that is like
MILFs are just dominating the industry, which is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
We don't complain.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. So now it's like they're almost
and especially with like the step the foeceess stuff, stepmom
and the step father and all this kind of stuff,
Like you know, scenes are sometimes so desperate for milves.
I have shot a twenty six year old girl as
a milf before right, like I mean just because she
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had like lip injections and breast and plants.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Are like, yeah, we'll make her a milk.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
I'm like, she's twenty six, yes, fucking hell yeah. I
remember I had a scene it's a couple of years
ago when I just thought it here with a girl
I think she was twenty two, twenty three. And then
this is also sometimes a problem for me. I just
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speak what I think and then I'd like, what are
you doing here? And she's like we are shooting even
seen together. It was like I thought, like the whole
fucking thing sounds like two moves and she was like
I am a move of like yeah, yeah, not and
she was I have a kid. I was like, yeah,
in the poem world, that doesn't make you too a move.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Not literal.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It was like you stick, it could be my my
my child, So like this does not work different in Germany,
the age of milve different.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah yeah, so I heard you got reprimanded at your
first a van for your outfit.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Can you tell us what happened there? And they're actually
like stricter than you would think a Avian. They've gotten
worse too. Last year they were very strict and actually,
to be clear, it's not a van, it's the casino
that these rules, and a van doesn't care exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I didn't know that, but it was my first a
V in Hey, listen, I thought like.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
That it was like Germany. Everyone could just show up
next correct.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I felt like, hey, that's the same like the Venus.
And then someone called me up and I thought he's
just kidding because he said, like, you can wear that,
and I was like, where are you from. I'm from Germany. Yeah,
you can wear that here in the United States. And
I thought like he's doing making jokes about me because
my Anglish was not so good. I didn't understand, and
maybe probably I don't know. And then when he came
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with the other guys to the booths, they explained me
really aggressively that this is not the outfit I can wear,
which is just topless, and he.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Was like, were you completely topless?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah? Because why not? He was like, you can't wear that.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I was like, you can't. You weren't You weren't wearing anything?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
No a G string?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
That's oh okay, I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I covered my Oh. It was a little bit like
I thought that's enough. Obviously it wasn't. And then other
people who I knew came up to me and said like, oh, yeah, no,
this is different here. You can't show you boobs.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Did you just put some tape over them?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
No? Because I also didn't have like any nipple paces.
I never understand that. Right now, I understand why they
invented in a noble paces. Before I didn't get it.
I was like, why if there's only two things, you
want to show it or not show it. If you
don't want to show it, wear another dress. Point. Yeah,
then I understand how it goes. So yeah, really nice
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and good friend of mine borrowed me stuff from her,
so I wore this and I was like, okay, I
will be better prepared for tomorrow. I really didn't know.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Wow, that is funny. So you've been married to Patrick
yeh for how many years? Now?
Speaker 3 (48:43):
We are always struggling. So Patrick and I we are
together twenty years and we are married for ten eleven
something like this, Well a long time.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
You guys have been together for a long time. Yeah,
what is your secret to a long lasting marriage? A
lot of people struggle with having a relationship in the
adult industry and a lot of them don't last.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Obviously that's not the case for you. What would you say,
is what is your secret?
Speaker 3 (49:11):
I think it's really people think right now, oh my god,
this is so lame that it's really We talk a lot,
and I think we are also like on a different
level because we are not like a married couple. We
are also like twenty four to seven together, and that's
next level shit. If you spend twenty four to seven
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with a person you're working with, you love, and you
have like family stuff as well, it's really next level
shit because if you survive, I count that always, like
in dark years and like human years, you know, I
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think it counts more because you are all the time together.
If you have a let's say, normal real lif relationship
or marriage, one of them will be out of the house.
You didn't see each other for like a couple of
hours because everyone is doing their job. It's not for
us for sure. When I'm on set same, but when
I'm at home working from home, we have the same
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and I think it is really we talk a lot
of stuff through We are always super open to each
other if there's an issue or we have like concerns
about stuff, there's no way to keep it for myself
(50:35):
or himself. We really just talk about stuff and what
we always which is maybe for people like oh my god, howbo,
but we have all always one. It's a Monday. The
Monday is Patrick and Patty day. So usually we don't
take any work at these days. Sometimes schedule is fucked up,
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but usually it's our day. We only do stuff for
our own because what people sometimes don't think through with
social media and all this stuff, like you're twenty four
seven like on it right, And Patrick is also super
business driven, and there was also like times in our
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relationship it was all about work. Hey when we go there,
we can't do this and this, Hey when we do this,
we can do this in this, So we always try
to put everything together. And then I said, listen, we
need time for us, like just doing our stuff without camera.
And this is always the day. So if people remember,
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the Monday is usually the day where they get Q.
And as for me, because I can't do it like
randomly and it's important and never take your partner for granted,
and because usually Patrick and I spend a lot of
time together. But for example, right now he's in Germany,
I'm in La So we apart from each other for
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around about like one and a half months because of business,
because I have stuff here, Patrick has stuff in Germany.
And then you see what your partners doing and you
see what are you're missing, And it's just sometimes also
like lonely to sit alone at the table and eat
there's no one you can talk to. So the value
(52:25):
of your partner is becoming so much more that I
think the most of the people forget about this topic.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Yeah, so I'm assuming that you miss him now.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I do. I was like, you do really even after
twenty years and reready there, probably I will say like,
oh my god, it was so much better without you.
But love that.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, what do you think is the most important quality
for a partner to have when they're dating someone in
the industry? For like those who are in the industry
and are struggling to find someone, Like, what do you
think is the one thing that they should look for?
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I think they have to be I know a lot
of them try to hide in the beginning what they
are doing or make themselves a big thing about it,
like I don't know if I should tell her, but
it has to be like the first thing, like Hey, listen,
this is what I'm doing and I will probably not
change it because of you. And honesty is one big thing.
(53:24):
But also to make your partner clear that this is
your job and there's a private person behind this job,
because obviously we are not like running through our own
apartment in high heelds, clear high heels, lingery the whole
fucking time. We are also normal people with normal stuff
(53:46):
to do. And I think this is really really important
to show a partner you're dating the first time. Listen,
what do you see in those movies? It's me, yes,
and it's a part of me, but that's not all me.
So if you think you sign up for this person,
you're wrong. So I think there are always two different
(54:10):
pazonas to the for example, Texas Patty. I mean, I'm
still the same, but there's always another side. So if
you date people and if people text you like, oh
I love your movies, I want to date you, probably
don't do.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
That that idea wise words.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, any big plans for this year, any big projects
coming up that people should look for.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, we have super proud about it. Actually it got
released like a couple of days ago. Patty and I
we have our own reality TV show in Germany. Yeah,
about I guess about everything. It's like about the industry,
how to become a part of the industry, how relationship
works with the industry, what friendship does with you me
(55:03):
at that point, if they are still like friendships from
the past, if people just show we're not doing that.
Family is a family a big issue? Do they accept
what you're doing. So it's a it's a whole. It's
a super honest thing and it's not this super trashy
(55:25):
like showing point sets and weird stuff. But I mean
we show that as well because it's a part of
my life. But there's also like another part, and sometimes
this part is most of the times it's super happy.
There's a lot of stuff going on, but there's also
like always another side from like not Texas Patty, then
(55:50):
like from me as a private persona And so we
show all of this and the first two episode just
run yesterday went on and the next two are coming
next week. And it's only sadly in German television because
Netflix didn't have the balls for it. They were like, yeah, no,
(56:13):
she's active, we don't do that because we don't want
that people watching this and after that they want to
become a part of the porn industry, which is not
what I approach in this. Like I get a super
honest question from the producers like the off things right,
whether like do you recommend anyone to get into the
(56:35):
porn industry And also it's like no because I don't
because there is a huge responsibility if you sign up
for that. Yeah. So yeah, that's one big project and
if the quotes and everything is great, it goes further.
We filmed everything right now only Germany, but then the
(56:55):
transition is to the States.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
Yeah yeah, really cool. Well, thank you so much for
coming on. It's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Can you let everybody know where they can find you
online on social media and maybe if they are in Germany,
like what channel they can find that on?
Speaker 3 (57:12):
So if you try to find me follow me. I
have my Instagram which is one word, Texas Patty. I
have my Twitter which is Texas I'm the school Patty
TikTok Texas Patty one word And just in case you're
in Germany, I will do that in German because it
(57:32):
makes only sense for the German guys. Einschilten on Mine
Reality TV M Xerria Shan on small I'm black hinted equillisen,
but come, I'm find Santira non Sanci Vitamin D in
stream by et plus.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
I feel so cosmopolitan. I don't know if I've had
anybody speak a foreign language on my show, but I'm sorry.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
And you guys can find me on Instagram and on
x at Holly Randall. Of course, go to patreon dot
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Access the bonus Q and a's like the one that
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(58:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My
guest today went from shooting amateur content to becoming an
(00:31):
absolute powerhouse in the industry. And she is, in fact,
the first German to be inducted into the AVN Hall
of Fame. Welcome Texas, Patty. Thank you how Helen good?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Really good? Yeah, thank you for having me here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Of course, thank you so much for coming. So let's
let's begin with your origin story. And you know you
got started in Germany, so I'm really interested to hear
how the adult industry is different there. So what inspired
you to get started?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
To be honest, I would say it was by mistake.
That sounds bad, but I never planned something. It was
really I just slided into the industry. So my background
is more when I met my back in the day's
future husband right now, my husband, give him a name Patrick.
(01:22):
So when I met Patrick back in the days, we
became a couple and we were super open and we
were swingers, so we had I don't want to say
an open relationship because for me personally it's something different.
But we were open to have sex with other people.
(01:43):
Point that was the whole thing. So our whole environment
were people super open minded. We went to different parties
and actually there was a couple, super nice couple they
introduced us to that said listen, do you want to
move to a movie like I don't know next year.
(02:03):
It was always like a theme party. So we saw
us actually like once a year, and then they approached
us again. And then Patrick, we don't do that. And
then I said, like, yes we do that.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It was your idea.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, said no, I said yes we do that. Why
I said, listen, And I have to say I had
a regular job. I was a dental assistant. Before Patrick
had a regular job. He was a seller for dental stuff.
So we were both settled money wise. It was good.
We had a good life. It was really about the adventure.
(02:37):
And then I said to Patrick, no, no, we do
that only one time because right now we are young,
and think about when we are like, you know, I
was seventies, eighties, grandkids are playing around and when they
are gone, we're looking at us. Putting the DVD back
on the day DVD Brent New and the DVD player
and then look at us, both of us think, oh
(02:59):
my god, we were so hot back in the days.
That was the way everything started.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Wow, So what made you decide Like you said no
that first time, and then a full year later you
said yes, Like, what made you decide a year later
that that was something you were going to try? You
must have been thinking about it in that year, right, It.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Was always like an hour I would say more in
my hat, Yeah, it's about right, but in my hat.
And in the beginning was just overwhelmed. I thought like, yeah, no,
I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That, like it had never occurred to you before.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No, never, Ok. And there were like two people. I
didn't know them. I met them at the party, and
then they approached me, do you want to do a
pole movie? I was like, yeah, for sure, I'm not
doing that. But then for sure you know people a
little bit better. You're more experienced, even when it comes
to sexual stuff. Because I would not say I was young,
(03:58):
kind of young for the people. I were still old
when I entered the industry, but I was like twenty
six seven when I met Patrick, and I was sexual wise,
really onexperienced. And after a year I was like oh hey, yeah, right,
now I know how it works. And then I thought like, yeah, hey,
(04:19):
that's on my bucket list, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, and that's what we really think. Okay, So then
what was the next step? So you said yes, obviously
you talked Patrick into it. So where was like, what
was this firstborn scene that you did?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was super random, super amateur style. And I have
to tell people because when people will see here listen
to that, they think, like what they for that? They
went to a studio. Listen, We're just talking like VHS
was gone, DVD just entered the market. That was the
(04:54):
era when I'm talking about. So it was a production
studio company actually, more a production company sells this stuff
to different distributed to different people. And super Random was
just Patrick and me with another girl and she it
was a theme about like sex therapists stuff, so we
(05:18):
pretended Patrick and I we have an issue sexual wise
and so super gonzo style, not really scripted, easyps twenty
minutes and that was our first thing. When I look
at this right now, Oh my god, really, what did
I do there?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, back in the days for me, it was a
big thing.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, so you actually did the scene with another girl, so.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
She was only a part of the scene. She was
just sitting next to us watching us. Gave it as
advice as a sex therapist, and I had only sex
with Patrick. That was the whole first thing. And that
was also like one thing. I said, like, listen, if
we want to do that, it's only Patrick and me.
(06:03):
Someone else can watch sit next to us. I don't care.
Just you at me.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So that was the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, okay, So then how did you guys feel after
the scene.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I've had a maze. Patrick was like, I don't know.
And then Patrick was super scared because again DVD we
have back in the days, the DVD covers usually had
like four scenes on one DVD, and Patrick was scared
that our face would show up and from like on
the cover of the DVD. And I said, listen, nobody
(06:32):
will see us. They are like other people on it. Like,
I don't fucking care, and I felt really really good
about it. Patrick was like a mix. And then four
weeks later we got the DVD into our mailbox and yeah,
we were the only couple on the cover.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So so his nightmare came true.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Oh no, I was like yeah, oh yeah, you know what,
there are a lot of DVDs people don't probably a
lot of recognize those like shit. So yeah, whereas Nightmare
came true and yeah, and that was I would say,
really the start.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, okay, so after this DVD came out, like, were
you guys thinking about doing more or okay? So it
was a one and done. It was where you're going
to move on, continue to work in a dental field.
So what made you guys decide? Because obviously you did
another one afterwards.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, there was a point I didn't understand the industry
in the beginning completely. For me, it was just a wild,
wild West. We did one scene and that's it. But
what I didn't know is that if you do a scene,
other people, Distribution companies see you as well, other producers
(07:45):
see you as well. And as I now know, new
faces are always welcome in the industry. So and every
it's literally like a small family and everyone knows each other.
So they're like, oh, yeah, you shot with this couple.
How are they? Yeah, they are good. Do you will
to do it? I don't know, have your number? Yeah? Sure?
So production companies like called us or texted us back
(08:09):
in the day or emailed us and said, like, listen,
we saw you on this and this production. Are you
down for doing more? We would really love to work
with you. And then it was like one more, one more,
one more, and yeah, this is how it ends. And
then it just.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Continued to be one more and one more and one more.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It was really one more and then it just continued.
And then there was a point I guess in our life,
like Patrick and my life, where I said, listen, it
was obviously not only one DVD. We continued that and
right now we really have to think about if we
want to continue it or like cut it. That's it.
(08:52):
And then we had a big decision, and that was
because my boss was about to give his office away,
wanted to merge with another whatever. So he said, like,
you know what, you really have to think about it,
like if you want to take over the office, go
to the university study and then come back and then
(09:15):
take my office over. I would love that you do it.
So I was literally sitting with Patrick together pro and
con was like becoming a porn star working and owning
a dental office. What should we do? And then obviously
we all know what happened.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You decided to sink your teeth into the point industry exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, that's actually what happened. Yeah, so I skipped it
because I said to Patrick, listen, we have to think
about it if we are going for that. And again,
I love my job. I still like, would love to
do it because I think it's I just loved it.
I worked sixteen years in a don't love and I
really loved it. But I said to him, if we
(10:03):
do that, we are stuck. We will stay on one place,
in one little village where we have the office. We
can't leave that. You have a huge responsibility and I
saw that over the sixteen years, like if you want
to go for a vacation, you can't do anything spontaneous
because your schedule is book with patients and stuff like that.
(10:25):
And that was really do we want to have the
adventure and maybe a higher risk or do we want
to be on the safe side. And then I said like, no,
I really want to see more. I just don't want
to get stuck in one little village and sitting in
this office for the rest of my life. So that
(10:47):
was why we took this decision.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, wow, was there a part of you that thought
maybe we'll do porn for a while for a few years,
We'll see where it goes, and then we can we
can always come back to the dental yeh, office life, Like,
was there a part of you that thought that that was.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Because I was naive? I thought like, this is not
a huge thing. Have you doing porn? Like you can
always go back? Yeah, there's no point of new return,
I guess. Yeah. I mean we all talking about like, oh,
porn is so much more welcome in the main street.
It's not. I mean we still get to judge, you
know that. Yeah, and to go back it's hard. I
(11:28):
didn't know that at the beginning. But I was also
ever with Patrick together a person. There's no like I
do it a little bit. I'm all in, yeah, and
I have a goal and I have to reach that
goal before that I will not stop. So it was
pretty obvious that this is not a thing for like
(11:49):
the next two years and then I go back to normal.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Was there any like milestone that you reached in your
career where you realize, like, Okay, this is this is
definitely the career path that I'm going to follow for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
This is something that I was made for.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I would say, in the beginning, I had a couple
of milestones. Yeah, because my first convention I don't know,
sixteen seventeen years ago in Germany, was.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It Venus Berlin.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, the Venus in Berlin.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Which by the way, I only just recently learned all
the fans can go naked to.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's great. I love that ever amazing,
it was amazing. Yeah, so went there. I had, I
would say, my own little booth. Not really, I have
a little lecuate can sign. It was the first time
that I printed out autogram autographs on myself, and yeah,
I printed I don't know, a thousand. I took all
(12:42):
thousands back home because nobody knew me.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I was so like, that is my greatest fear, Like
I've never signed it a booth before, and I am
convinced that if I did that, that would happen to me,
like nobody would come, nobody would want my autograph, and
I'm not, Oh my god, I'm I'm sure no, I can't,
Like I would just be like that person's like.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, I mean it is hard, don't get me wrong,
because you I signed at the booth from a huge
company back in the day, so they had like these
exclusive stars and I was just yeah, a plus whatever. Yeah, yeah,
I was just an add on. I would say. There
was like a long line for all of those girls,
not me, And then some people came up at me
(13:29):
and I really tried to keep my smile and people
came up to me and like can do a picture
of us?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yoh.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So yeah, the first years were like fuck. And then
my biggest goal when the convention was over, said like,
I want that people recognize me. I want that people
staying there waiting to talk to me. I really want
to have that attention. So at that point it was
like that's my goal. And then for sure it takes
(14:01):
a little bit to establish your name and stuff, and
then yeah, I reached that goal. I worked for a
big company in Germany, Adult Company as well, but they
also had a TV channel, so it was.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
More like.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Documenting things, went to different events, interviewed different people, still
like active in front of the camera, but I had
like a couple of my own serios and it was
really really nice. So that gave me also like a
huge push in my career. So I had a couple
of milestones. Yeah, and I reached them, and I was
(14:40):
every time, never like okay, great, I was like cool, next, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know, there's a lot of controversy around what is
a good age to start porn at. Right, there's a
lot of people who believe that eighteen is too young, which,
of course is the age that one can start porn at.
You started a little bit later, as you said, are
you glad that you started later or do you wish
that you had started earlier? And how do you feel
about the age of eighteen as the age that you
(15:08):
can start.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think the age of eighteen is way too young.
Maybe some people will hate me for that to saying that,
but I really think, yeah, it's way too young with eighteen.
I don't want to say everyone, but the most girls
are too young with the age of eighteen. I would
really love that they could only enter with twenty five
(15:35):
because I if I think of myself when I was eighteen,
I don't know about shit. Yeah I had sex, for sure?
Was it good sex? No? Could have sayed when I
was eighteen no, because I didn't know. I didn't know
what else is there. And I think also if you're eighteen,
(15:56):
you're unexperienced. You listen to people differently, especially I don't
know when they are older or when they have something
to say in the industry when they are big players,
and the influence what people can make to younger people
in the industry is super huge, even if it's not
on purpose. So I really think twenty five would be
(16:20):
a great age. I think it will never happen, but yeah,
I really take when Patrick and I when we produce
in Europe, I always take care of that people are older.
I know it's a good selling point.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Because it isn't the age of consent sixteen in some countries,
not for sex in general.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, like between two people, for example Germany, it's sixteen.
If two people I'm not talking about someone is fifty
and the other is sixteen, right, But if like two
teenagers have sex and both are like over sixteen, it's legal.
It's it's not against the law, like for both have
(17:07):
to do the content, but yeah, it's legal, it's fine.
Nobody can complain about this. But just showing up for
in front of camera it's different. It's still like eighteen
in Europe, and I think it's just too young. Yeah, yeah,
and I would love that they are older.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Somebody was telling me, I think it was sixteen, maybe
at some point before the Internet or something.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like, oh, yeah, that could be because it was a
huge issue.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think it was sixteen, like before the
Internet came along, because I remember somebody saying that, like,
because you know, there was the whole Tracy Lord's scandal,
who was sixteen, but like her content could still be
distributed in somewhere in Europe, but it couldn't be distributed
anywhere here. Yeah, because sixteen was obviously a minor but
(17:52):
there were some countries in Europe where it.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Was like, I mean something I would not No, I
with you, I agree, I don't know, but yeah, I
mean for me, I started, let's say twenty six twenty
seven was my age. Do I wish I were younger? Yes?
And no. Yes, in the meaning of I could achieve
(18:17):
so much more thinking why is mental? No, I was
a great age. I had my experience. I started this
whole journey. I got offers for anal so often. I
didn't shoot anal at the beginning because I was like, no,
(18:38):
that's between my husband. Really, I thought like this and
I didn't want to do it, so I didn't. And
I think when I was eighteen at that point. Probably yeah,
someone might have said, yeah, talk me into it. It's
harder to establish boundaries when you're younger, correct, And this
(18:59):
has only something to do with your life experience. And
it's also not a bad thing to say no. But
if you're eighteen, you see differently. You're a little bit like,
I don't know, you have the fear that if you
say no, they will never call you again, they will
(19:21):
never book you again, something like this. And this is
huge different if.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You get always some eighteen year old who's going to
do it.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And that's the problem. Yeah, And that's for me personally,
really a big issue. So yeah, in general, I don't
regret that I started so late, because this is also
a reason why I'm still in the industry, because I
only did things. I mean, there are a couple of
things that are like, yeah, I would not do it again,
but hey, I did it, I signed up for it.
(19:54):
Would I do it again, No, But there are other
things I would never have experience without the industry it again, yes,
under percent, I'm down for it. So they're like the
majority is really yeah, happy about it, Happy that I
joined the industry so late, And it's sometimes a good
thing to say, no, what.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Are some of the things that you tried that you
wouldn't do again.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
In Germany, for example, we had some our productions were
like gang bang situations, and I don't want to say
that I will not do a gang bang again. I
love it, but the way the setup was, I would
not do it again. So it was really a gang bank.
People could join the gang bang with masks and stuff
(20:38):
like that, so I would be so much more particular
about people who are attempting the scene.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You want to have more control over who's in the
gang bang.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, exactly. And it was not a bad experience. It
was nice and I really enjoyed it. But when I
look at the footage right now, I really think like, yeah, no,
in this scenario, I will not do it again. I
still love the whole scenario, but yeah, not in this setting.
This is, for example, one thing. Or there are also
(21:10):
some public stuff I did which I still like and
the people like it. But even nowadays I would think like, yeah,
no if a company. If I do it myself is
another thing. But if a company hires me for public stuff.
In Germany it's easy or in Europe to do like
public outdoor sex. You will not go in j for that.
(21:35):
But I'm always super protective of who can see me.
I mean, to keep it real. I don't want to
have sex and like a group of children showing up
or something like this. Back in the days, I was
less experienced. So when people ask me production companies in
(21:55):
Europe like, hey, it's an outdoor do you want to
do this? It's a boy girl outdoor scene. And I
said yes, and I didn't ask for any details. I
would not do that again. So these are, for example,
some things and not like sexualise. It was really about this.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to like be more
responsible exactly in your choices.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
That makes me grew up.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
A little bit more, and then you make you think
differently about things.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
What are some of your favorite scenes that you've ever done?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
My favorite scenes were really maybe people like really really
the double anal stuff. And this is really a thing
I would never ever experience in my regular life because
it's just hard. It's hard to find like two or
(22:46):
three people who are down for this. I mean, this
is actually like really a sword fight, and some guys
don't like it and they need to keep getting hard
even if they are, Like.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So basically you've got to be find some guys that
are willing to like rub their.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Dicks together exactly, which yah, yeah, not everyone's up for that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
And then there's the whole like setup, like I mean
there's less space and like to get squeezed in and stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
So I really really tough.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
They are, Yeah, and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, And
I think some people think like, oh my god, she's
crazy and it looked rough maybe on camera. But this
is also one thing what the most people don't know.
It's super gentle and those people are super nice and
(23:48):
like in between when the camera is rolling there and
when they see the camera is going lower, so the
face is kind of cut off because the camera operator
need to see mold close up the situation. Yeah, it's
like it's a super cute situation. And I loved it.
I enjoyed it so much. And this is really one experience.
(24:11):
Without me in this industry, I would never have a habit.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I've shot a few gangbangs and it's always so funny
to me exactly what you said, Like you see, you know,
people see the edited version, but they don't see the
in the between takes where you know, you you take
the moment and then the guys stop and you know,
and they like, you know, check.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
With the girl. How are you feeling? You need some water?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Like you know, and they and they'll talk to each
other like okay, so you go in next and like
are you cool with us doing this? Or like they're
talking about the game and they're laughing and like it's just,
you know, it's so different, and everyone's smiling and you know,
they're all friends, like we all know each other. It's
such a small community. And then the camera rolls and
then they're like, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Then like it's just but it's like it's just so
different because it's acting exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it's a part of acting. Yeah, absolutely correct. So
if people come up to me and say like, oh, no,
you're more the hardcore version, I always think, no, I'm not.
I also enjoy really lovely girl girl scenes like if
you have an amazing and you have a good vibe
with the other person, Oh my god, I love that,
(25:25):
Like super vanilla stuff, I love that as well. But yeah,
for that question you ask, it is really one thing
I would never have experienced.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So for those who are watching this, and they're like,
I want to see this double anal scene, Like where
can they go?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Where is this scene that they can see?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I think the most people know this side. It's lele Pon.
I shot it back in the days for pepe Porn,
which they are based in Czech Republic, and I know
some of them. They are like, oh, it's the worst company.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah I know them.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah. I for me, they are always super nice because
when they ask me to do the scene, I just
told them right away I never did it. There's no
way I can try to figure it out by myself
because I think with two dealers it's a totally different game.
And so I said like how do you get Like yeah,
(26:15):
how do you hold yourself.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Up with one hand?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And like yeah, no way. So I told them because
I was in Europe these days, and I said, listen,
let's do an agreement. I come to your studio. We
will try it. If I can't do it, I don't
want to be responsible, like for all the costs for
(26:39):
the guys and everyone else to show up before the
patient camera and whatever. And if I can't do it, okay,
hotel is on me. I come on my own costs.
So you don't have to take care of this. So
that's the deal. And he said like, yeah, I know
you can do it, and I will. I know you
will enjoy it, so yeah, let's do it. And so
that gave me also the freedom of I can say
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no at any point if I not enjoy that or
I like physically can't do it, because I didn't do it.
And that was super nice and I loved it that
they offered me this opportunity. And then I shot like
three four times for them, and then.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, also, look the pressure off. That's nice.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
All right, So Patty, obviously you are German. What's the
biggest difference between American sets and German sets?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
There is not really any difference. I know you would
love to hear something else, but yeah, nope, Actually it's
really the same. We have the same setup. We have
a camera guy, sound guy, sometimes people who take care
of the wardrobe, makeup artists are there, so it's actually
really everything the same. I would say, uh, it depends
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for which company. I would say, the scripts are more
easier written down, because in Europe, I would say, everyone
is speaking English, but not in a really good way.
So to get a Spanish guy, a German girl, a
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check guy, and another guy. It's a fucking mass, right
because they are all like this heavy hot accents and
stuff like that. This is the only difference. So most
of the times, I mean, obviously because of my age,
the most of the time I'm shooting this move scenes,
so I'm the talker.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
The one I actually shot, and I used to go
to Prague every year and shoot, so I've shot in
Europe a few times, and honestly, like, the biggest difference
that I noticed was that they didn't the girls didn't
generally do over there. They just took a shower before
the scene. That was the biggest difference set of stuff.
But otherwise, yeah, everything was pretty much the same.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's true because it changed though. But I actually couldn't
find Douche there exactly. That's what I wouldn't find it anywhere. Yeah, no,
because it's not the thing there. I mean to be honest,
I experienced here this the first time that a producer,
I don't want to say he called me off, but
he was literally like, can't you go to the bathroom.
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It was like why, It's like you there is gurly stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Can you do the gurly stuff. That's I was like,
what is girly stuff?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I didn't know, so I didn't understand what he is
what that meant. And then someone explained me finally, and
I was like, oh, so it's that. Why is it?
Because for me, it's a natural thing. So if there
is a little bit like white thing on it or whatever,
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it's like just literally from your pussy it Yes, it
shows you. Yes, I'm into that. Yeah, so literally that's
what it is. But then I recognized, Okay, maybe on
camera it doesn't look nice because then it's like awkward. Okay,
I understand, So I don't know. I took it over,
so I'm doing it. It changed a little bit there,
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like in Czech Republic and Budapest, the most of the
girls doing it as well.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
They have started doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, oh interesting, but it's not a thing like it
is here and you can't go to the supermarket and
you have to go to a pharmacy and then you
have to explain literally what you get is more the
anal version of it.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I remember going there, and I remember
going because I had just started seeing my ex husband
who was English, and we were like going to have sex,
and I was like looking for a douche and I
was like, I would like all these stores because I
was like, I'm finally going to bang this guy.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And I'm like, there's no fucking douche.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And I like went up to the girl and she
was like I was trying to explain her or what
it was, and she was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
And I was like, you know, when you clean out
your vagina.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
She's like, why exactly, why do here? No? No, no,
it was really because it was just really not a thing. Yeah,
I learned to tear. And then someone explaineding like, oh,
don't believe the thing which is already in there.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
You take the volution out, you just put in the water.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I was like, a yeah, yeah, it's just not a thing.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's strange because it's different, like every woman figures out
what works for them, because I know that some women
like all the douche actually really throws off their pH
balance and it's very bad for them. So it's not
necessarily a good thing to do, but it's like become
so customary and typical and and here an American porn
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I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean if you go here to the
bathroom and there, like every everything is said.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's all there, Okay, It's a whole fucking line of
do yes.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
And I would say the other difference is when you
shoot in Europe, I would say, the expectations are a
little bit higher, so like it's obviously that you bring
your own towel, it's obviously that you bring your own
stuff with you literally, so yeah, and here like oh
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do you have a towel? Do you have this? And
sometimes I think, like, why don't you bring it by yourself?
I know understand that, so yeah. So I would say
this is another topic. And I would say the European
people just more direct, which is was a hard thing
for me to learn here that everyone is like super polite. Hey,
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we want to do pretty girls. I know we see
you fucking in a bit, but your hair covering your nipple.
Cannot put your hair away, Like, well, are you asking me?
I don't understand that. In Germany it's like nobody asks,
and not in a bad way, but I think it's
always how you used to things, yea. And also like
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in Europe, to be honest, if you do a scene
or whatever, and like the photographer or whoever is there.
And let's say there's a hair on your pussy, and
nobody will do a cut and say, hey, listen, we
have to interrupt. There's a hair, like the photograph is
just going there, peel it off and done. And I
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think this is so much time saving. Yeah, and I
love that, but I would say here, no.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, oh my god, especially now, like oh yeah, you
have to ask permission before you touch somebody.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, it's very It's the dynamic has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
In America, there's definitely this sense that Germans are much
more sexually open and uninhibited.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Would you say that that is true, that's true. Why
do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I don't know. I think one part of it is
that we in German we call it FKK. It's like
the culture of being naked that let's say, this is
not an accurate translation, but that's the meaning of it.
So we have beaches, everyone is naked. I think we
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just don't do such a big deal about being naked,
and that makes it more okay. Nobody cares so much
and even when you grow up orson For me, for example,
when I grew up, I always went with my parents
to new beaches. Why because my mom was literally like,
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I don't want to run behind you with your little bikini.
You're three years old changing diapers, changing that. So just
everyone is the same, and this is how I grew up,
and this is actually how the most people in Germany
grew up. Not all them for sure, but this is
a big thing. When it comes to sex, it is
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also because of this community who loves to be naked.
It's just a normal thing to have sex. I guess
that's the whole point, because here it's so different, like,
oh yeah, you can't sounder. For example, if you go
to a suner in Germany, everyone is naked and it's
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not a big deal. And you have days where only
woman and it's separated, but usually like it's one thing.
And I think that is also the reason why we
are so different when it comes to nudity, that we
don't care so much about things. And then there's the
legal stuff. If you have sex in public, for example,
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and the police is catching you, the only thing the
police is tell you like finish quake. So actually that's
what it is. So this is also the reason why
the most public stuff is shot in Europe. Because I
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don't want to say it's legal, but it's also not illegal.
Nobody will like call the beliefe you go into jail
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
There you can be like you can be like arrested
here and then be forced to register is like a
sex offender I know, which is literally one of the
worst things that can happen to you. It'll affect it'll
follow you for the rest of your life. Yeah, you
have to register on the sex offender registry. You have
to stay like five hundred feet away from schools.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
It is crazy, really crazy. So we don't have that,
and it's I think they were just like, hey, nobody
feel offended. You're not like in the middle of the
street or something, right, So you're like in a park
and nobody can see it. But some people can see it.
I mean they can just go by and whatever. So
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it's not a really big thing. And that's the reason
why the most public stuff is filmed in Europe and
that gets distributed in the internet. So what you people
see is like, oh, that's in Europe, that's in Germany.
They are not as fuck. I mean we are, but
I would say the most people would do it here
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as well if it's not like super against the law.
That's a reason. And the other reason is also like
with different ping. I mean the first scene I shot
here the producer asking me, ah, do you also do
the peace stuff? I was like, what do you do
the pea stuff? Why should I? Because you're German? I
was like, oh, okay, I didn't know that this is
on my birth certificate. So it's the thing. Why we
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are famous for that or why do all the people
think Germans are doing it? Because it's legal. You can
publish it, you can sell it, you can sell it
to all the websites. Everyone is seeing that. They see
the background where the people are coming from, all from Germany,
So Germany peeingal. So that's literally what it is. This
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is what I think. I don't know if I'm right
or wrong, but yeah, we are more open minded when
it comes to New tea.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So like growing up then you didn't obviously have like
the sense of shame around sex is like most Americans,
yeah have, Like did your parents like talk to you
about sex when you were a kid, Like how'd you
learn about sex? Because like the sex education is dire
in this country.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I mean, I would say it's all over. We have also,
like in school, but then you're in the age, we
have this cucumber and this condom and you think like
do you really have to do it? This is embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
So they do teach it in school.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a whole
fucking thing for it which goes over years, which I
think it's a good thing. Yeah, don't get me wrong,
but you're in an age where your crush is sitting
next to you, and then you have this cucumba with
this condoment you have to oh my gosh, yeah bad right.
But no, I grew up like really open minded. It
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was never a thing and I really like that because
for me, nudity was never like oh you have to
be ashamed of it. And even when I grew up,
there was a time when I was like fourteen fifteen
something like that and when I was like, ah, I
want to have I I want to show it's normal.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
It's normal when your body's changing it exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, yu bresa like growing and you feel different, you see,
you become a woman. And this was a point where
shifting things. But then I was also like, do we
still go to the nude beach and they were like yeah,
I was like, can't wear a bikini? Sure, so you
don't get judged for it. Even if you're like with
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the family there, then you have like, oh, you have
to be naked. So it gave me always the freedom
to be naked. And for me personally, I see why
do we wear clothes. We wear like cute dresses and
pretty hair and whatever, because that's how we want to
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approach the other people and tell them like, hey, this
is what I am. But if you're naked, you can't
hide anything. We are all the same. And I really
like that because I don't care if people are rich, poor,
if they have a good job, a bad job, if
they're married, or I don't fucking care. And if you
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as soon as you have like jewelry or whatever, you
start to judge people. Everyone is doing that and I
just don't like it. So, for example, on my vacation,
I always not always, but most of the time I
go into the South of Friends. There's a place which
is a little village. Everyone's naked there and that's actually
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my vacation and you meet all the people there. You
meet like super famous actors there, you meet lawyers everything,
But you meet also like people there have like a
regular job and they save the money literally for this vacation.
But everyone's naked, so you can't see any difference. And
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that's really what I like here.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, they can't like claim status by the things that
they put on their body, except for maybe surgery do that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
So I'm actually curious then, because I feel like religion
plays a huge part in this country about creating this
narrative of shame around sex and sexuality. What place does
religion have in Germany? Is it a Is there a
lot of strong religion religious connotation in Germany?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I would not say so. We have religion, for sure,
we have it. And I have also, like in Germany
people who are against what I'm doing, and that's totally fine.
I totally respect that. And if you're a super religion,
that's maybe a thing, but I don't know, it's not here.
It is really really sometimes ABM. When they have the
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protests from like Jesus Church, I was like, oh, my
fucking God, And I think this is also like not right,
because I mean, I don't want to go too deep
in it, but in my perspective, the Bible shows us
everyone is equal. Why I'm not equal to you you
touched me because what I'm doing and so it is
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a thing, but way less than it is here you
have a couple of them. Sometimes I get like the
MS where people like, oh, you have to find too yourself.
I was like, I did it already, That's what I am,
and that's fine. But here it's really hardcore in my perspective,
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and for me also it has nothing to do with
I don't believe in God or in the church with
what we are doing, because I always say like, hey,
he told me go out there literally fuck around and
make a lot of kids. Okay, I skip the pot
with the kids, but the rest I did. My answers
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called it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I was just wondering because there's definitely people who are
like religious who go to church, like believe in God,
but also like don't have that really strong anti sex
work like belief built into you know, their doctrine.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
And so I was just wondering if in.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Germany, like people are religious but they like don't actually
care about like being anti sex.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
All that, like the last part. Really we still have
people strongly believe in whatever religion it is but not
strong strongly communicate against oh to how we don't have
that so aggressively.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So I heard you say in an interview that in
the US you're considered a milf, but not in Germany.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, I mean that changed. I'm getting older as well.
But when I start, yeah, it was a I don't know,
I would say in Germany you were on milk with early.
The earliest stage you can get in is with forty something.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I mean, it's funny because I'm sure you've seen this,
like milf has become one of.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
The biggest categories I know in porn.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Like when you know, I started twenty six years ago,
it was not a thing.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
No, no, you know what I mean. It was hard.
If you were older too.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I would say it was at work, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And now it's just like I mean that is like
MILFs are just dominating the industry, which is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
We don't complain.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. So now it's like they're almost
and especially with like the step the foeceess stuff, stepmom
and the step father and all this kind of stuff,
Like you know, scenes are sometimes so desperate for milves.
I have shot a twenty six year old girl as
a milf before right, like I mean just because she
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had like lip injections and breast and plants.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Are like, yeah, we'll make her a milk.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
I'm like, she's twenty six, yes, fucking hell yeah. I
remember I had a scene it's a couple of years
ago when I just thought it here with a girl
I think she was twenty two, twenty three. And then
this is also sometimes a problem for me. I just
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speak what I think and then I'd like, what are
you doing here? And she's like we are shooting even
seen together. It was like I thought, like the whole
fucking thing sounds like two moves and she was like
I am a move of like yeah, yeah, not and
she was I have a kid. I was like, yeah,
in the poem world, that doesn't make you too a move.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Not literal.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It was like you stick, it could be my my
my child, So like this does not work different in Germany,
the age of milve different.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah yeah, so I heard you got reprimanded at your
first a van for your outfit.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Can you tell us what happened there? And they're actually
like stricter than you would think a Avian. They've gotten
worse too. Last year they were very strict and actually,
to be clear, it's not a van, it's the casino
that these rules, and a van doesn't care exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I didn't know that, but it was my first a
V in Hey, listen, I thought like.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
That it was like Germany. Everyone could just show up
next correct.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I felt like, hey, that's the same like the Venus.
And then someone called me up and I thought he's
just kidding because he said, like, you can wear that,
and I was like, where are you from. I'm from Germany. Yeah,
you can wear that here in the United States. And
I thought like he's doing making jokes about me because
my Anglish was not so good. I didn't understand, and
maybe probably I don't know. And then when he came
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with the other guys to the booths, they explained me
really aggressively that this is not the outfit I can wear,
which is just topless, and he.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Was like, were you completely topless?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah? Because why not? He was like, you can't wear that.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I was like, you can't. You weren't You weren't wearing anything?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
No a G string?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
That's oh okay, I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I covered my Oh. It was a little bit like
I thought that's enough. Obviously it wasn't. And then other
people who I knew came up to me and said like, oh, yeah, no,
this is different here. You can't show you boobs.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Did you just put some tape over them?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
No? Because I also didn't have like any nipple paces.
I never understand that. Right now, I understand why they
invented in a noble paces. Before I didn't get it.
I was like, why if there's only two things, you
want to show it or not show it. If you
don't want to show it, wear another dress. Point. Yeah,
then I understand how it goes. So yeah, really nice
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and good friend of mine borrowed me stuff from her,
so I wore this and I was like, okay, I
will be better prepared for tomorrow. I really didn't know.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Wow, that is funny. So you've been married to Patrick
yeh for how many years? Now?
Speaker 3 (48:43):
We are always struggling. So Patrick and I we are
together twenty years and we are married for ten eleven
something like this, Well a long time.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
You guys have been together for a long time. Yeah,
what is your secret to a long lasting marriage? A
lot of people struggle with having a relationship in the
adult industry and a lot of them don't last.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Obviously that's not the case for you. What would you say,
is what is your secret?
Speaker 3 (49:11):
I think it's really people think right now, oh my god,
this is so lame that it's really We talk a lot,
and I think we are also like on a different
level because we are not like a married couple. We
are also like twenty four to seven together, and that's
next level shit. If you spend twenty four to seven
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with a person you're working with, you love, and you
have like family stuff as well, it's really next level
shit because if you survive, I count that always, like
in dark years and like human years, you know, I
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think it counts more because you are all the time together.
If you have a let's say, normal real lif relationship
or marriage, one of them will be out of the house.
You didn't see each other for like a couple of
hours because everyone is doing their job. It's not for
us for sure. When I'm on set same, but when
I'm at home working from home, we have the same
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and I think it is really we talk a lot
of stuff through We are always super open to each
other if there's an issue or we have like concerns
about stuff, there's no way to keep it for myself
(50:35):
or himself. We really just talk about stuff and what
we always which is maybe for people like oh my god, howbo,
but we have all always one. It's a Monday. The
Monday is Patrick and Patty day. So usually we don't
take any work at these days. Sometimes schedule is fucked up,
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but usually it's our day. We only do stuff for
our own because what people sometimes don't think through with
social media and all this stuff, like you're twenty four
seven like on it right, And Patrick is also super
business driven, and there was also like times in our
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relationship it was all about work. Hey when we go there,
we can't do this and this, Hey when we do this,
we can do this in this, So we always try
to put everything together. And then I said, listen, we
need time for us, like just doing our stuff without camera.
And this is always the day. So if people remember,
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the Monday is usually the day where they get Q.
And as for me, because I can't do it like
randomly and it's important and never take your partner for granted,
and because usually Patrick and I spend a lot of
time together. But for example, right now he's in Germany,
I'm in La So we apart from each other for
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around about like one and a half months because of business,
because I have stuff here, Patrick has stuff in Germany.
And then you see what your partners doing and you
see what are you're missing, And it's just sometimes also
like lonely to sit alone at the table and eat
there's no one you can talk to. So the value
(52:25):
of your partner is becoming so much more that I
think the most of the people forget about this topic.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Yeah, so I'm assuming that you miss him now.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I do. I was like, you do really even after
twenty years and reready there, probably I will say like,
oh my god, it was so much better without you.
But love that.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, what do you think is the most important quality
for a partner to have when they're dating someone in
the industry? For like those who are in the industry
and are struggling to find someone, Like, what do you
think is the one thing that they should look for?
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I think they have to be I know a lot
of them try to hide in the beginning what they
are doing or make themselves a big thing about it,
like I don't know if I should tell her, but
it has to be like the first thing, like Hey, listen,
this is what I'm doing and I will probably not
change it because of you. And honesty is one big thing.
(53:24):
But also to make your partner clear that this is
your job and there's a private person behind this job,
because obviously we are not like running through our own
apartment in high heelds, clear high heels, lingery the whole
fucking time. We are also normal people with normal stuff
(53:46):
to do. And I think this is really really important
to show a partner you're dating the first time. Listen,
what do you see in those movies? It's me, yes,
and it's a part of me, but that's not all me.
So if you think you sign up for this person,
you're wrong. So I think there are always two different
(54:10):
pazonas to the for example, Texas Patty. I mean, I'm
still the same, but there's always another side. So if
you date people and if people text you like, oh
I love your movies, I want to date you, probably
don't do.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
That that idea wise words.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, any big plans for this year, any big projects
coming up that people should look for.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, we have super proud about it. Actually it got
released like a couple of days ago. Patty and I
we have our own reality TV show in Germany. Yeah,
about I guess about everything. It's like about the industry,
how to become a part of the industry, how relationship
works with the industry, what friendship does with you me
(55:03):
at that point, if they are still like friendships from
the past, if people just show we're not doing that.
Family is a family a big issue? Do they accept
what you're doing. So it's a it's a whole. It's
a super honest thing and it's not this super trashy
(55:25):
like showing point sets and weird stuff. But I mean
we show that as well because it's a part of
my life. But there's also like another part, and sometimes
this part is most of the times it's super happy.
There's a lot of stuff going on, but there's also
like always another side from like not Texas Patty, then
(55:50):
like from me as a private persona And so we
show all of this and the first two episode just
run yesterday went on and the next two are coming
next week. And it's only sadly in German television because
Netflix didn't have the balls for it. They were like, yeah, no,
(56:13):
she's active, we don't do that because we don't want
that people watching this and after that they want to
become a part of the porn industry, which is not
what I approach in this. Like I get a super
honest question from the producers like the off things right,
whether like do you recommend anyone to get into the
(56:35):
porn industry And also it's like no because I don't
because there is a huge responsibility if you sign up
for that. Yeah. So yeah, that's one big project and
if the quotes and everything is great, it goes further.
We filmed everything right now only Germany, but then the
(56:55):
transition is to the States.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
Yeah yeah, really cool. Well, thank you so much for
coming on. It's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Can you let everybody know where they can find you
online on social media and maybe if they are in Germany,
like what channel they can find that on?
Speaker 3 (57:12):
So if you try to find me follow me. I
have my Instagram which is one word, Texas Patty. I
have my Twitter which is Texas I'm the school Patty
TikTok Texas Patty one word And just in case you're
in Germany, I will do that in German because it
(57:32):
makes only sense for the German guys. Einschilten on Mine
Reality TV M Xerria Shan on small I'm black hinted equillisen,
but come, I'm find Santira non Sanci Vitamin D in
stream by et plus.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
I feel so cosmopolitan. I don't know if I've had
anybody speak a foreign language on my show, but I'm sorry.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
And you guys can find me on Instagram and on
x at Holly Randall. Of course, go to patreon dot
com slash Holly Randall Unfiltered to watch these streamed live.
Access the bonus Q and a's like the one that
we're going to do just now after this wraps, and
get access to the uncensored versions because I've had to
trim some of these interviews just a little bit for
(58:26):
YouTube because they don't like the stories to get too wild.
But you can get the full interviews on my Patreon.
Go to hollylinks dot com for access to all of
my platforms. Thank you guys so much for joining us,
and I will see you next week.
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