Ep. 385: Black Jesus At Lennox

Welcome to Episode 385 of the Ice Cream Convos Podcast!

Join hosts Xaviera and Karla as they dive into the latest celebrity news and hot topics.

In this episode, they'll discuss Jerrod Carmichael's revelation about his feelings for Tyler The Creator, Saweetie's struggles with demons in her sleep, Gypsy Rose's separation from her husband, Daphne Joy's startling accusations against 50 Cent, and Claudia Jordan's claims about Al B. Sure's coma experience.

Plus, Xaviera shares a surprising Easter Sunday encounter at Lennox Mall.

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Convos podcast, where we serve deliciousgroops of entertainment and celebrity news. I'm
your host Saviera and I'm your cohost Carla, And as always, we
thank you for tuning into today's show, and we welcome you to be a
part of the show by dropping downin the comments wherever you listen to share
your thoughts, views and opinions onwhat we're chatting about. All right,
so, Carla, how you doing, girl, I'm good. I'm pretty

(01:34):
good. I'm pretty good. Happyto be here now, I'm planning.
I'm good. How you But Iam I'm always happy. You know,
when we podcast, this is alwaysa great time. But I'm all right.
How you making out? That's good. You sound like you were about
to be like those people in churchwhen they be like giving honor to God,
who is the source of my strength, you know when they stand up

(01:55):
to get their testimony, like youwas about to hit us with a testimony.
But they're a good when I tellyou, it's the third day of
April that we are recording this podcast, and April has been kicking my I
thought March was ugly, but April, April is March's ugly cousin that come
up from the summer from down southand want to fight everybody. You know

(02:15):
what I'm talking about. You knowfrom the south though, but yeah,
you know, living up top,everybody got that one cousin that come up
every summer from down south. Yes, yes, all right, but I'm
just thinking that's last That's what Aprilbeen giving me. Bo girl, I'm
alright, I'm all right, allright, Rain, Now I'm oh broke
quick. Yeah, April Freight camein here with a bunch of rain like

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it's supposed to. Like I don'tknow about down there, but it's literally
been raining every day, so itactually, yeah, I'm kind of I
need some sunshine now. I needsome sunlight now. Yesterday was really good.
It was like seventy nine to seventynine degrees yesterday. It was so
stupid. But then it's understorm lastnight. So you know how it is
like when it's really really unseasonably warm, and then it triggers that warm front

(02:59):
and hot and I was like,oh, I remember that from a science
class, with the front and thecold front. And then so I don't
know what the temperature is looking likeout there today. But I got to
drive to the city of Atlanta,So y'all pray for me, because anytime
I got to go into the city, it'll be some nas shop. Yes,
yes, we will all pray it'dbe some nonsense when I got to
go into the city, I promise. But anyway, I just want to

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start out today's show by giving afew rips Chance Perdomo. Chance Perdomo is
an actor I discover Chance in genvGENV is a series on Prime Video,
and y'all it is like, youknow, like x Men hel Professor Xavier
have like the you know, thethe mutants. So imagine the young mutants

(03:45):
that Professor Xavier had in his homewith no home training. I'm talking about
one girl had to throw If shethrows up, now she can make herself
shrink. I think she has thevomit to make herself shrink, and she
can get very very small. Butshe had got really small and hopped in
and then this dude that she wasmessing with wanting her to smd ok.

(04:09):
So she was like this, shewas like holding it like a pole.
Oh my, stop playing. It'sso freaking out of pocket. It is
so it's so good. I wasnot expected that. That is crazy.
Oh. I had to tell Bessie, like, now you can't. You
can't watch this one with mom becausethis one right here a little too out

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of pocket. You know what I'msaying. Hey, God, Yeah,
he passed away on a motorcycle.He was in a motorcycle accident. Twenty
seven years old. Twenty seven yearsold. It is It's awful. I
also want to take a moment togive a rip to Vonte Davis. Former
NFL star Vonte Davis. He wasfound deceased in his grandmother's Florida home.

(04:56):
I wasn't sure. I just atthat. I know, he just was
found that. I was want toask you about an update on that.
Yeah, it was his grandma's house. Oh man thirty five years old?
Another young, another young, Likepeople are losing their lives, are leaving
here so young. I feel likeevery day I mean, of course every
day goes on, but I mean, like people we know, well known

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people, Yeah, famous people weresaying. I kind of feel like it's
the Lord's way of just reminding everyonethat tomorrow isn't promised. You know,
like when you see these kind ofstories and you hear these type of things,
it's a reminder to you that youknow tomorrow isn't promised. So but
you know, okay, question,can you truly truly live like every day

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as your last? I don't think. I don't think you can lodge your
mind that way. I don't thinkyou can either. But because if I
felt like today was my last,I'm going empty, what little bit of
coin that lawsuit left me in mybank account? Walling out? I'm walling
out. I'm calling people to cusspeople out that I've would let people know

(06:01):
what I really think of them.You know, good, bad, You
know I love you. You knowI love you. If it's bad,
then I'm gonna have to let youknow. Like, hey, I'm finna
lead this world. But when Iget up to heaven, I'm gonna tell
God to keep an extra eye onyou because you cruddy. I'm gonna tell
the Lord to keep an extra angelon you because you real crazy. They
want to straighten up, because therewill be extra eyes on you from above,

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you know, just there ys logically, and I think it's kind of
morbid to actually live in a spaceof every day is every day could potentially
be your last. Yeah, Ithink that's that's one of those things too,
depending on how you look at it, because you're right, it could
be totally morbid. But if you'reone of those people like that basically take
rich, like they always say,you got to get out of your comfort

(06:46):
zone right to kind of like solike if you live in I think if
you look at it like, allright, I'm literally just gonna live life
like I'm not gonna worry because honestly, if I know it's my last day,
and I hate thinking about it likethat. I ain't worrying about nothing.
I'm just gonna be in my happyplace because I've realized, like this
is so it's it's weird. Youknow, na a man who's seen that

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song? Oh wait, Oh mygosh, I can't remember that? Who
sings that? Now? I mighthave to look it up? That is
bad? But hold on, I'mofficially getting old, speaking of who sings
what? I Last night I was, you know, JB. Destiny and
I. We were sitting downstairs andwe had watched Roadhouse on Prime Video,
which is actually a really really goodmovie. Of course it's a remake or

(07:35):
it's a remake reboot, however youwant to describe it. But Jake Jillen
Hall did his thing. Love himanyway. But afterwards I went into let
me go into my Apple Music.I started pulling up old jams and I
played, let me see What's inMy Search? I played It's the Thuggish

(08:00):
Ruggish. But why Destiny was inthe back to my It's the Thuggish.
She knew the song, you knowwhy, because on TikTok the Girl then
she'd be like, it's babe andwhere Shit's in the house and Tasha right,
okay, okay. It's a thingnow on TikTok where people are analyzing

(08:24):
that part of the song saying whichmembers of Bone she liked the most,
so they was like, and soshe's come across that, and so she
knew the song. Oh my goodness, you know, I'm not part of
the TikTok wrath. So I'm like, Okay, that's the cool part I
love about TikTok though it kind ofI see a few times where it's introducing
like, yeah, the younger Generationis song and it was another Bone song.

(08:50):
She actually played the original one forher though, like because sometimes it's
different too, when it was itwas the original because then Tasha jumped in
on the trend and actually it liveon TikTok okay, because that's the end
of the song, ain't it.Yeah yeah, And then I think it
was another Bone song that I playedthat she knew. I think it was.

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Oh, I ain't about French Montanatoo. I don't know why that
like, oh, shoot, FrenchMontana. I don't know. That was
crazy. That's why I remember,because it's my brain that's wrong for that,
you're wrong for that wrong. Okay, So I want to start today's
show by talking about Jerid Carmichael JERIICarmichael's new show, The Gerrod Carmichael Show,

(09:39):
not to be confused with the carshow that used to be on NBC
that we all loved. Gerard isbasically doing his own version of The Truman
Show. And then the show comeson on Max on Friday nights at eleven
pm. And in the premiere episode, Jerid Carmichael reveals that he fell in
love with his best friend. Andfor those of you who may have missed

(10:03):
the memo, Gerard came out asgay last last year year before during his
Rathaniel stand up comedy special. ButGirod Carmichael is a member of the lgbt
q i A community and he revealedthat he fell in love with his best
friend. And he told his bestfriend, I think via text, and

(10:24):
how things became really awkward between themafter he revealed his feelings. Well,
said best friend happens to be Tyler, the creator, rapper and musician,
Grammy Award winning rapper and right,and Tyler actually responded to Gerard by calling

(10:46):
him like a stupid b or somethinglike that. And so the show is
basically a reality show. Cameras arefollowing Gerard and giving us an inside look
at Gerard's life. Y'all know,I personally love Djiro Michael and nobody can
make me hey Jirai Carmichael, Imet him, interviewed him. He was
so gracious and sweet and kind tome. And until he does something egregious,

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I will stand tintos down with JeriCarmichael. But this here reality show
is a lot to digest because wealways talk about how you do not know
these celebrities. You may listen totheir music, you may watch them over
the years, check out their interviewsat the core base, you do not
know these celebrities. And this wasa reality check for me when watching Jerii

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Carmichael's reality show, because Gerard isa thought. Friend, Girard is a
thought. Real Gerard is a thoughtAnd I feel like there are a lot
of stigmas placed or stereotypes placed onmembers of the lgbt QIA, and one
of the biggest ones being that theyare what's the word promiscue is that the

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people Gerard is promiscuous, really,and I feel like he is. He
is basically co signing like some ofthe stereotypes beyond grinder and beyond like let's
hook up and people come to hishouse and he'd be putting their feet in
his mouth. He'd be sucking.Oh wow, for he got booty butter

(12:24):
at the house. For real.Yes, he had a man show up
at his house with a mask onand like like a voice disguise or all
wow, this is a really realthis is a reality reality show. Ob
getting to it, then get intoit like he had coming in and out,

(12:46):
in and out. One guy.I think he could I think he
couldn't remember his name or something.It was something, but your drive be
getting to it, and it's Idon't know if it was like a coping
mechanism because Gerard would is rejected byTyler, and you know how some people
are. They get rejected by oneperson and the injections tough. Yeah,

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they try to be like Solange,I tried to forget away. I put
one in d a if that's hisbest friend to that that within itself as
a whole, another layer. Becausenow you didn' already express how you feel,
how you go back to being bestlike I don't know, Like that's
my question for you now I'm yourbest friend, and I love you really,

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really deep, all of you warbut I'm not in love with you.
Haven't ever had a friend, aclose friend like cross the line.
And I say cross the line,but I don't mean it in a negative
way. But just have a regularfriend who you could tell developed feelings for

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you that went deeper than friendship,even if waiting my finger, you know,
even if they did not admit itto you, okay, or have
you had someone actually admitted to you? Let's go, that's our topic,
Like you know what, Fortunately no, because I would I wouldn't even know

(14:15):
how to deal with that, Like, I don't. I've never had a
friend like tell me or I don'tlike even thinking. No male or female?
No, nope, thank god.No. Not close friends. No.
It was always like even and youknow I had a lot of male
friends, it was always like eitherwe I say too much, but it
was either like we get it orwe if it did take up that space

(14:39):
physical space. It was nobody wasin love with each other, Okay.
It was like you here, I'mhere, Yeah, let's just go.
Yeah, I mean we're friends.I'm just saying friends, right, I'm
just saying you know what I mean, just not where it gets like I'm
in love with you. Yeah,that's heavy, Like I don't even know
how like I would even really respond. Have you ever been through that?

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No, I haven't had a friendthat. Yeah, I never had a
friend. Just be like straight uplike I'm in love with you or I
done developed feelings for you. Now, I did have a friend that I
felt like things got a little bitweird and if you felt that way,

(15:24):
it did because you know, yoube knowing. Yeah, and she asked
for an invitation to my private partsone time, okay, And I was
like, it's about time for usto eat dinner. Speaking of eating,
I was just about the I wasjust about the cook. Yes, I

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tell you everything. Put back toan episode of Martin. Yeahs think too.
You're a quick like you quit youSo it sounds like a joke,
but I really heard with the Iwas just about the cook. Did It
sounds like a joke, but Iwas like, you know that times for

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us to eat. Let me gowhip us up something. Oh my goshold
she take the rejection well or likehow it was just like all right?
Did but I will say personal andthe friendship continued, right, but I
will say personally, I always feltnervous about us being in spaces alone.
Again't want to be you. Didn'twant that to happen because I her to

(16:33):
be like so about Yeah when Iasked you, yeah, like I don't,
I didn't. Yeah, I gotto run it back. Now.
Yeah, I felt awkward about uslike being alone. But that was a
very interesting that's tough, that's different. I posed the question to the ICC
friends on Facebook, and I wasreally really surprised at the amount of responses

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that I got. In a lotof people really said like, yeah,
like I've been through this, I'veexperienced this. Let me just let me
see. So I wrote, haveyou ever had a close friend fall in
love with you? And someone said, yeah, he's a man though someone
said yep, have babies witting okay, oh said yes and lost my best

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friend of seventeen years. I triedit, but it but I wasn't into
it and it shattered us. Thatsad. Yeah, see what I'm saying.
Mm hmm. That' stuff. Thatpart like because your best friend is
your best friend, Like there's adifferent type of you tell them everything you
know you do. So then likeif you want to feel in some type

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of way about ones in love andthe other ones not, Like how do
you go back to how do yougo back to that friend the person that
did the rejecting or said no.Now, they're gonna feel like I'm gonna
be walking on eggshells every time they'rearound you because they're gonna feel like I
don't want to hurt you know,because they're still a best friend. Yeah.
And then the other the other personthat was rejected as far in the
friendship, is going to feel likehow dare they? I think that's how

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you would feel because you're looking atthe best friendship part, Like is that
does that make sense? Like?I don't, Yes, it definitely makes
sense. And for me, it'sjust the risk of losing the friendship and
changing the friendship. Because I willsay this, when you have a best
friend, like I look at you, for example, I have two best
friends. I have you and mygirl Tasha, like you all my all,

(18:32):
my all my girls right right,and like with you, there is
nothing on on on this planet inthis world that I feel like I can't
say to you or tell you rightyes. So I was like, girl,
I felt like yesterday I just feltlike drinking some gasoline. You'd be
like, okay, have you hadyour taste? But like, there's just
nothing that I can't tell you.So it's one thing. I woke up

(18:56):
it felt like I was in lovewith you. I feel like the way
our best friend our best friendship isset up, I would be I would
call you and I'll be like,girl, you ain't gonna believe this ship
on the lines or something like that. Girl you ain't gonna be because that's
the way our friendship is set up. And we'd be like, girl,
you ain't gonna believe this. It'sgonna be like what what? That's the

(19:18):
what happens happened? Be like,girl, I feel like I'm in love
with you, right, but Ialready know how you are. I already
know how I am, know howthis thing is gonna go. So listen,
if I just be looking at youa little crazy sometime, or just
hugging you a little longer than usual, don't pay me no mind, Lord
working on me. I'll be allright after. That's the way our friends.

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Yeah, Now, the way ourfriendship is set up, you could
be like, how about I've beenthinking about this since last week you know
what I'm saying. But where it'sjust the friendship. I guess it's the
way the friendship is structured. It'sthe way it's set up. It's the
way, like I said, Ifeel like there's nothing I can't say to

(20:03):
you, same thing here, andI'm gonna stay it to you the way
or you'll be like, girl,you know what, you're so crazy.
Just just give it one more weekyou'll be over me. It's just the
way. But we right, Butit's just that's why I said, Like
as far as like going back tolike how do they go back to because
everybody ain't like us? Just howdo how does GERI and Tyler now go

(20:27):
back to the same best friendship becauseTyler gonna be feeling like and you said
Tyler his response is like that ishis response. I couldn't be his friend
no more, just based off theway he responded. If you that was
that was as much as like weplay, I would be like that's horrible,

(20:48):
yeah, because he could at leastbeen like, oh see you or
something like like too soon, likethat's something down the line you say,
yeah. And then the thing waswhen you look at Gerard Girrod was physically
hurting, like, yeah, that'sthat's that sucks. If you've ever really
been in love with somebody, yourheartbreak is physical. Man, Listen when

(21:11):
they say that, that's truly thepain from it, and you rather somebody
punched you in your chest. Yes, you feel what I'm saying because you
know that the wow, that thatthat burn, that thing that hurt gonna
go. But that heartbreaks things,that shit lingers. So I wonder,
like, at what point because Girrodthe way Jirn developed feelings for Tyler,

(21:32):
and maybe some people just naturally lovehard, but yeah, some people do.
It sounds like he does. I'mnot trying to make any assumptions about
their friendship, but Girard kind ofcarried himself like someone who had been led
on and then dropped like a hotpotato. It could and that could be

(21:53):
the case too. See, Ihave to see the physical like I didn't
like, I'm sorry that he's olddifferent. He was literally folding up,
like first he was sitting up,and then as Tyler, you know,
he was like, well, youknow, he was trying to have a
conversation with him, and Tyler waslike kind of like, I mean,

(22:14):
like what you what you want meto say? Like what you And then
Gerard went down to like putting hishand right here, and his hand went
over his mouth. Then he crossedhis legs, then he crossed his arms.
He literally was folding up in realtime. It was so sad to
have. And I have a softplace for Gerard again, because I love
Gerard, not in love. Idon't want he don't want. He don't

(22:36):
want what I got on the menu. No way, he don't want what
I got on the menu. ButI if I could have reached through my
television and just grabbed him, Iwould have grabbed Rod like around his waist
and just hugged him while he wassitting in that chair because he was just
folding. And if you've ever beenin a heartbroken before, you know how
it feels. Told tell y'all aboutthat time that dude broke up with me

(23:00):
because he said he was in thelight skinned girls now and I was too
dark. I'm trying to remember ifyou told that. I feel like I
know I know the story. I'mtrying to remember if you girl, you
talking about hurt. Oh, Iwas hurt. Yeah, that's that's a
hurt. I was like, whatwhat. I ain't gonna say that,
but I was just like, okay, and now I look at him now

(23:21):
and I'm like, look at that. I die. Yes, I'm gonna
say there's always something no good.Okay, you know what? Anyway that
usually makes all right? Yes,they got a nerd of reject some damn
body. Yeall, y'all. Rejectionis the lord's protection. Listen. Okay,
you don't know that till you know, until you get older. All

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right, Carla, Well, Iguess we can go ahead and take a
break, and then when we comeback, I have a few more stories
that I want to get into.Today will be a quick podcast because,
like I told you, I gotto go to Atlanta, so I least
need a hour to go in myprayer closet and get my mind, body
and soul mentally prepared to hit thestreets. But let's go ahead and take
a break, and when we comeback, we're going to talk about Stevie

(24:03):
J fifty cent, Daphney Joyce,Sweedee, I'll be sure, and more.
But before we go to the break, Carl, I'm in love with
you, you stupid? What doyou say? Late? Just now?
Okay, all right, guys,We'll be right back, all right,

(24:29):
I see see, friends, weare back. So Carla, A lot
has went on since the last timewe were on this podcast, and at
one point I didn't even know whereto begin, but I'm going to start
with the easier route. Salweedy,y'all. Y'all like to Carl Sweedy,
but Allweedy. Allweedy recently did aninterview with Big Boy, and she revealed

(24:49):
in the interview that she has tolisten to gospel music every night or she
will experience sleep paralysis. Demons.Wow. Now, some of y'all know
it as a witch riding your backor the devil riding your back. But

(25:11):
for those who are not familiar,hold on, let me give me a
little bit of tea on this onebecause I'm listen. Okay, you know
you're gonna have some folks, especiallybecause she tagged demons on the end of
it, like sleep paralysis is areal thing. Yeah, So, sleep
paralysis is basically, it's a stateof sleep where you feel like you are

(25:36):
unable to breathe, unable to move, unable to speak, and a lot
of cases it feels like there's aweight on your chest and it's linked to
sleep paralysis demons, or some peopleinterpret it as sleep paralysis demons because it
feels like someone is literally sitting onyour chest, and some people believe it's
demons that are, you know,sitting on your chest. And I wanted

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to ask you, have you everexperienced sleep sleep paralysis or sleep paralysis demons?
Yes, I have experienced sleep paralysis. I ain't I ain't never speaking.
I don't know nothing about the nodemons nothing. I don't know nothing.
We stay, they stay in theylane and I stay. So tell

(26:26):
me, okay, so tell me. Do you recall like the experience?
Yeah? I still let me pleaseknock on wood because I haven't experienced it
in a while. Set to metoo, Me too, horrible horrible feeling.
My sleep paralysis usually happens if I'msleeping on my back. Amen,
Lord, there it is. Andit's usually like, I don't know what's

(26:48):
weird for me. I can't movemy limbs right, and that's the part
that I'm like, so, andthen I'm trying to wake myself up and
I can't. I'm doing everything inthe world and I almost I hate to
say this, but it makes mefeel like I'm like in between like life
and death. Like I'm about thesleep out and never come back. That's
why I'm trying to get up.Like you feel that way too. Yeah,
that's scary though. It is scaryfor me when I experience it.

(27:12):
I experienced it a sleep paralysis anumber of ways, but I think I
can only recall one time, andthis was like I probably I was still
living at my grandma's house, sothis is like early teens. I remember
the one time where I literally feltlike I couldn't get up, I couldn't
move, I couldn't scream. You'retrying to stream, you can't scream all

(27:37):
of those different things, and itis. It's terrifying actually, And my
grandmama always told me, like anytimeyou have a bad dream, anytime that
you you know, I was oneof them kids that'd be like, he's
a monster, come get me.My grandmama, I was raised by my
great grandmam, and she would alwaysbe like, just say the blooded Jesus,

(28:00):
the blood of Jesus. Now,get the blood of Jesus out,
Just yell Jesus right, because Jesus, the name of Jesus is enough to
clear out the demons in your room. Lord oh wait, I got something
else to tell you too, letme pin it so anyway, So in

(28:22):
that particular moment, I couldn't evensay Jesus because I couldn't speak, I
couldn't scream, I couldn't I couldn'tmove. And Sweety claims that she has
always had an unnatural connection to thespirit world. She said, she doesn't
know how you know, but she'salways had experiences with this, you know,

(28:44):
the spirit world, and that ifshe is sleeping alone, now here's
the irony. If she's sleeping withsomebody, she doesn't have to listen to
the gospel music. They're gonna leaveher alone. So I'm like, well,
she's romantically linked to yg and thedemons probably thought to themselves, girl,
one of us already in here.So we just gonna let you have
that. Yo, you Joe.We're gonna let you add that one of

(29:12):
our representationships has already here. Gotit. We'll be back tomorrow. Unless
you pull up Marvin's sap, we'llbe back. Oh my god, you'll
get the wine. But can youimagine to a point where have its just

(29:37):
whether whether or not you believe it'sof the spirit world or if it's of
demons. Can you imagine being ata point in your life where you experience
sleep paralysis so much like she's literallysaid on a regular basis every single night,
if she does not have like narcolepsyor something, she might need to
go get that look down. I'mnot I'm a spiritual person and I'm not

(29:57):
gonna go against God. Like,I'm not saying that it that, but
some things are too. There aremedical reasons for it, you know what
I'm saying. Like, I alsoread that that sleep paralysis could be linked
to a bigger medical condition depending onhow you experience it or what it is.
Right, But somebody said, well, her music is not a reflection

(30:18):
of her having a tough night timejob. The fact that you said sweetie
and gospel music threw me off.Okay, it threw me. I'm dead
serious. It's no harm. ButI'm not so listen, it ain't.
I know, I know we're notjudging, but we ain't judging, but

(30:41):
we judging, right. So mything is, if I'm experiencing sleep paralysis
every single night, unless somebody's inthe bed with me, I would be
out, Like that's my best friend. J E s U s me that's
my best friend. J E sU s you ain't gonna play with me
all my hottest songs. Jesus,No, seriously, That's what I'm saying.

(31:07):
Like that's why I guess it doesn'tmake sense to me, and I'm
probably why I'm not taking her seriously. Oh well, and that might be
wrong, but like that's listen.I start with the music, the powers
and the tongue. Okay, thepowers and stop with the music, baby,
and no word either. Let thatlittle demon you chose sleep in the
bed with your I'm just saying.I'm just saying, but speaking of Jesus,

(31:33):
bestie, can't nobody tell me?Destiny and JB think it's a joke,
but can't nobody tell me? Isaw I saw Black Jesus on Easter
Sunday? Did you wear her?And Lennox moll That's what JP said.
I saw, Nah, Bessie,let me tell you. So. We
had dinner with fam, we hadbrunch with family on Easter Sunday, and

(31:56):
the part of town that we werein. I was like, well,
Bessie, you know, what elsedo you want to do? And she
was like, hey, I lookedit up. Lenox Malls like only fifteen
minutes all at me. So Iwas like, all right, we can
go to Lenox Mall on Easter Sunday. I'm pretty sure people will lead their
guns at home today. But weget over to Lenox Mall and we are
pulling into like we haven't even gotteninto the parking lot yet. We pulling

(32:19):
into like where you come down andyou drive past the front of the mall
to make your way to the parkingdeck, right. And as we're driving,
I look up and I see ablack man. He's given Shaza Oka.
His dreads aren't as long as Shazagreen eyes dressed and looked like royalty

(32:43):
clothing. It was black trimmed ingold okay. And I looked and I
said, y'all, there go blackJesus. And he looked at me and
he did something with his hand.Because I just stopped my car in the
middle of the street. I waslike, that's black Jesus. And he
looked at me and he gave mea nod of affirmation and he did his

(33:06):
hand like go on, child,and I started driving and I was Jesus
just talking so like JB. Andthat's in the car like they holler yeah,
because they like yo, they arelike Black Jesus. So then JB
was like, well, why isBlack Jesus at Lenox Small? And I'm
like, if Jesus is gonna goto any mall on Easter Sunday, it

(33:28):
needs to be Lenox. The waythey cut it out straight up at Malla
Georgia. He could have been atMalla Georgia, but he chose Lennard.
Yeah, okay, because he knowwhere he needed to be. And I
was like, I need to hurryup and park because I need to.
Gosie was like, Mama, pleaseleave that man alone. I said,

(33:50):
I need to go get blessed byBlack Jesus. I was like on Easter
Sunday, Black Jesus right, like, Mama, please leave that man alone.
I said no, no, no, no no. So we park
in the car and I see BlackJesus walking away from the mall. So
I'm like, oh my goodness,I'm about to miss him. So we
get out the car. We likewalking a little. I really wanted to

(34:13):
talk to Black Jesus. I wantedI needed to. I wanted to hear
his voice right. So by thetime we got out the car and hit
the sidewalk, he was on girl. He was gone that junk blue JB's
mind so bad. It blew JB'smind so bad. JB was like,
listen, he was like I was. I was gonna keep kicking and giggle

(34:34):
with you about Black Jesus until hejust disappeared on this side. I don't
know where he went. Are youserious? Thin air gone? All I
have is the memory of what Isaw, and he is that y'all be
hanging on y'all walls, or y'allbe putting up in the front of y'all
vestibules at your church. No,no Jesus is given Shazai mixed with a

(34:58):
little Chris Summer bestie. Damn geta picture spirit, Yeah, that would
have messed with me Black Jesus eversince. And do you know when we
got to the mall and got tothe door, it said this mall is
closed today. What it said this, mother, I said, not Black
Jesus closing down Lenox Mall. Heprobably saved some lives that day. He

(35:22):
probably saved our life that day.I'm playing yo. It said this mall
is clean. Damn. I wishI would have got a picture of it.
Now I'm thinking to myself. DidBlack Jesus know the mall was closed
before he came? Or did hecome and shut them all? Shut them
all down? He fined out?Let me find Yeah, I gotta laugh

(35:43):
because I wasn't there. But Ibelieve you. I believe you. Once
you said like he wasn't on,he just you didn't know where he went.
I believe you, Yo, theway he looked at me, they
just affirmed all my blessings. Ohmy gosh, there it is all right,
y'all. So y'all know we gotwell Before we get into this,
just a quick note, Gypsy Rosesplit from her husband. But the good

(36:06):
news is he made it out alive. Hallelu He made it outlive. Usually
people don't lead Gypsy alive bags.That's a positive point. Yeah, that's
a positive. You got your life. But you know, can I just
say this, listen, I knowGypsy Roads been through hell right with her
mom? Who did was that consideredmuch munch higher munching? I can never

(36:32):
pronounce it. I can't either likemunching highsers much like a beer. Yeah,
munching heiser serve cold much. Idon't know. I just don't know
how to say it as much highsersence or something of that nature. And
I know Gypsy went through all thatnonsense with her mother, but and I

(36:53):
know, you know, the wholething with the boyfriend. She got the
boyfriend, and I don't know ifshe coerced the boyfriend. I mean,
there's different versions of the story,whether or not she told the boyfriend to
kill her mama or talked them intoit, whatever, whatever. At the
end of the day, her mamais dead. The dude in jail and
Gypsy is out, got married andwas talking about her husband. Her husband
got good d so the d musthave meant divorce because now they separated.

(37:19):
But it's so many lessons in theGypsy Rose story that I don't even know
where to begin. But I willtell y'all or I will say that I
do not understand why y'all have celebritizedthis damn girl. Yeah, it's weird.
There is nothing about her that sheshould receive extra attention, celebrity treatment,

(37:43):
opportunities, nothing. At the endof the day, regardless of you
know, the mistreatment, she couldhave convinced the boyfriend to help her go
to the police or something. Yeah, murder yo mama. Yeah, that's
but It shows you the type ofworld we're in right now of like the
heroes, people, the select whopeople quote unquote make celebrities or like it's

(38:07):
nuts. It's it's like we're literallyrewarding badass behavior. Absolutely. And I
know that Gypsy didn't physically kill hermother, but good, but it doesn't
lot of it the whole thing,which is worse because now he doesn't kill
without you orcheres straight. Okay,all right, I just don't understand why
y'all made this girl famous and peoplein the comments her the best. I

(38:30):
just wall what nuts. I wishGypsy Rose whatever the Lord see fit for
her period. Linux, Yes,decide Rose needs. That's what I hope
she gets, yes, period.But I just don't understand, like the
way y'all become. But you know, y'all not gonna make me understand it
even No, no, not atall. To save your breath, Save

(38:52):
your breath, John, I donot care. I'm not. All I
know is I'm tired of y'all pushingthis girl in my face. Straight up.
If anything, y'all gave someon ToyoBrown. Yes, No, that's
facts that needed to be said.Though I'm actually I'm actually glad you said
that. That's a great point thatneeded to be Gypsy the f out of

(39:14):
my face, y'all. I oh, gosh, a few things. So
I'm not even gonna deep dive onthis because I took a deep dive on
Friday night during our Friday night Facebookchat. Please be sure to join me

(39:35):
on Friday nights at ten pm onFacebook where I do a Friday night chat
and I deep dive into whatever topicsCarl and I don't discuss on the podcast,
but I did a deep dive intoAlbi Shore and why al gets on
my last Yes, all of usme, I know they am sure get
on my God damn. So evenafter he wrote this letter to his public

(40:01):
letter to Quincy and I basically duringmy live chat, and it is available
on YouTube if you go to theice Cream Convos YouTube channel, I ran
down. How I'll be sure tome is nothing more than eighties, late
eighties, early nineties R and Bsinger who transitioned into radio but will do

(40:22):
anything for attention. Yes, Ohmofo god, I'm talking about being that
respectfully, disrespectfully for me, I'llbe sure we'll do any and everything to
seek attention. And it's almost likea disease at this point. Yeah,

(40:45):
even after I've laid out all thedifferent reasons why I feel like I'll be
sure is an attention seeking negro.Wake up Saturday morning to see a clip
of him speaking at an event onFriday where he said, when you guys
find out the truth about why Iwas in a coma, you're gonna want
to call Homeland Security. Oh boy, He's it's so sickening, and it's

(41:10):
it's just sickening. At this point. I'm really in a documentary, and
the truth will be exposed in thedocumentary. Here's what here's how I'm gonna
chop this up real nice and quick. If I thought for a millisecond,
and I don't even know what's smallerthan a millisecond, maybe a micro second,

(41:31):
that somebody tried to have me killed, it's not gonna be in a
documentary. It's gonna be in apolice doc exactly exactly. Y'all be killing
me and irking me so bad,taking things to the court of public opinion,

(41:51):
which don't have no means, nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing like you
just and it's like, if youtruly truly believed that Sean Diddycombs has something
to do with you being in acoma, not your obesity, not your
gastrisk sleeve surgery, not your liverfailure, not your kidney failure, not

(42:15):
your diabetes, not all of theseother health conditions that you have laid out
over the years. Right, Likeyou had a hernia and a haematoma.
Tell me how a N word giveyou a hernia. Tell me how somebody
gives you a hernia tried to killyou. So then I had someone argue

(42:37):
that there are poisons and medications thatcan be ingested, poisons mainly that can
be ingested that can eventually cause organfailure and organ malfunction and have things.
I saw a clip this morning ofClaudia Jordan's saying with her check bet that

(43:00):
when doctors opened Albie Shore's body thatmany of his organs was liquified. Why
trying not to say that, no, you lying ain't Are you serious?
This is how far we going?Like people really is like this delusional?
Okay, here we go, andI'm just like liquified for real, liquified

(43:27):
liquified? Where is it? Herewe go? Listen, I'll be sure
and Kitty are the only ones thatare alive from that record company, right,
the only ones that are alive.Allegedly, Heavy D was working on
a book about his life dead andthis is all on the internet. I

(43:49):
think Jaguar talks about Andre and RalphSapole was gonna tell her his life dad.
I'll be sure. Poli was workingon us before and then went into
a coma. I remember with thisa'l be shorans in front of mine.
We used to work out together inl A. I know him right before
this coma, y'all. He wastraining for those celebrity boxing matches and then
falls into this coma and he almostdied. Like they said when they open

(44:12):
up his insights and did dissergery,it was liquified. So when things like
this happen in your life, willyou be stop stop stop stop up stop
stop steps. I can't hear,no, I can't listen no more that.
I have never gone to middical school, but I know for a fact
if your organs are liquefied, youup there with Black Jesus, you at
Leila with Black Jesus disappearing on thesidewalk, you it's I have thrown in

(44:40):
the times. People are really taughtand saying, come on, man,
yo, I am uh. Iwill say this. I have reached a
new level of perpletion. And Idon't even know that if that's a real
word. I have reached a newlevel of perplextion of what black folk will
believe. Did you notice how rightbefore she said, she said, I'll

(45:06):
be sure as a friend of mine, we was in the gym together,
right and he was training for celebrityboxing and and then he fell into a
coma and when they opened his body, they said, Claudia Buanquisha Jordan,
I'm gonna need you to tell mewhose they one medical document? Do people?

(45:31):
Do black people? Melanated people tous? Though they is everything but
my beautiful melanated black people, eventhe ones that I don't want to claim
as family because y'all give me secondhandembarrassment in public. If doctors open I'll
be Shure's body and saw liquidation mmhmm. With medical experience and medical training

(45:59):
and medical schooling, if anything lookeda ry and or I'll be Shure's body
upon opening it. Outside of regularmedical situations, don't y'all know hospitals and
doctors alert the authorities. Yeah,That's why I can't. I can't even
entertain. It's so hard to entertainit. It's so hard to entertain this

(46:22):
like, so it's out that you'reabout by NBC too. Did he got
to buy NBC? No, y'all? He calls the rock outfort? Uh?
Oh? Yeah? Yeah? Didhe? Did he call down the
rock? Therefore, they sent themilitary police to his house to raid his
house for sex trafficking because he calledout the liquor company. That's right,

(46:45):
I'm sorry, the same liquor companyhe like he wasn't even doing business with
back in the nineties when I washearing stories about him, that same right,
And I'm good, I'm here.I'm here for a good conspiracy,
y'all. Y'all just flat out justlying. And they don't even make the
conspiracy theories good. You got tosit in the corner and be standing my

(47:07):
bedroom like word. And then it'sthe way that y'all tie yo. Everybody
wasn't writing a book, my gy'all swear everybody was writing a book.
And my thing is what happened,okay. If all, if Andre Herald
was writing a book, if Cassiewas where the manuscripts exactly exactly where are

(47:32):
they? They buried them with themHeavy D writing a book? Did do
y'all not remember when Heavy D gotthem real bad blood clots on that airplane?
Right right? Heavy D? Anotherbeautiful human being, incredibly talented,
obese, diabetes, a number ofhealth conditions. Some things there are they

(47:57):
are every that that drives me createtoo, like that. We're in a
place where as soon as someone losestheir life around someone that there's some type
of whatever. Uh you know here, Co'm the conspiracy theories, especially the
gatekeepers. Can I can I throwconspiracy theory out there though, and I'm
gonna do it responsibly. Right,Let's talk Uptown Records because Uptown Records seems

(48:22):
to be the foundation of all thisBS. Right, Uptown Records. You
had Diddy, you had Andre Heral, you had Heavy D, you had
I'll be sure, you had KenPorter was a secretary, You had all
these people at Uptown Records. Right. Do you think those four or five
people ran the whole MFN label?Right? Right? You never talk about

(48:45):
the people that worked at Uptown.That's still a lot because that gonna fit
the narrative, right. But alsowe talk about the biggest names that came
out of Uptown Records, Right,the biggest names got the biggest bags.
Correct. And when i'm when,for those of you who may not be

(49:06):
well versed, bags mean money.They're talking in a sense of money monetary.
You know, we're talking monetization atthat particular time. Is it fair
or is it a reach to saythe top people at a record label during
the peak of that record label wouldhave been partying, drinking, drugging,

(49:29):
living, sleep, living their lifeon the edge, sleeping less like all
these different things. Airplanes. Airplanescan cause embolisms, like all these different
things. You're on a plane everyother day, y'all don't really know the
impact that flying has on your body, going into different air pressures. You

(49:51):
don't know people existing conditions like it'sso many so munditions. If you have
that type of money, you eatin the way you want to eat,
you drinking the way you want todrink, You drugging the way that you
want to drug. Y'all listen.I know that Diddy is the big,
big bad boogieman of the music industry, But good lord, even the boogeyman,

(50:13):
let Freddy Krueger get some work.The boogieman that can get some work
the Boogeyman. Let Chucky work theBoogeyman. Let other people get some smoked.
Yes, facts like I just needy'all to think logically. And then
some of y'all will say this wasreally this would really get me after they

(50:34):
because you know, they said Kimwas writing a book. Here's my thing,
put more respect on the Porter family'sname that if they believe Kim died
under suspicious circumstances, that they wouldhave did something right. Yeah, for
real, I think that's terrible.That's probably the worst one. I think
I hear the most when involving Diddy, like she's still has children alive,

(50:55):
like they I don't know. Ilook at all of that. I think
that's horrible. Though. It ishorrible you say that the father like there,
you know what I mean. Y'alldon't think about stuff like that,
No, don't. They don't think. And then here's another thing. Kim

(51:15):
died of pneumonia according to our medicalreport. Tell me how you inject somebody
with pneumonia? Right, I knowthat there are here we go back to
the poisons. So then y'all sayshe was writing this book. And then
here's the thing that this is whatannoys me most about. I'll be sure.

(51:36):
I'll be sure listen to y'all chitchat and riff raff in them comments
sections just like everybody else. Sohe knows exactly what he needs to say
that to fit the narrative. Yeah, that's it, and that's what everyone
just wants. Like, it's justattention seeking at its finest. A lot
of y'all just want attention. It'sattention seeking at its core, and it's

(51:58):
it's so I just don't wonder stayingwhy y'all be believing this stuff. Then
y'all will say, first, sinceeverybody was writing a book that died,
Diddy is the only and I'll besure of the only two surviving members of
Uptown and I'll be sure defied deathand that's why he's still here. And
then it goes on, y'all sayafter they because Jaguar Wright even told us,

(52:22):
Oh my gosh, now y'all wantto that's that's funny too, that's
so hilarious. The same person everyonewas like, literally not just a week
ago, calling nuns and she don'tknow what she's talking about. Now she's
like, give her her flower.We do that too. We do that
a lot. Yeah, you're crazyuntil it's time to get him there.
For I saw somebody say Orlando Brownneed to get his flowers because he's been

(52:44):
trying to tell us about how OrlandoBrown also said jay Z got good Kouchie
Right. That still doesn't mean thateverything they say is the truth. There
may be some truth in there,but doesn't mean that they are like every
and everything they That's why I sayabout like, I don't I said this
to you off, you know,like when we were talking. Everything is

(53:04):
not black and white, like Ifeel like that's what social media is turned
in. There there are gray areas. Sometimes people can be telling the truth
and lying at the same damn time. Yes, at the same Yeah,
it's crazy. Hey, how aboutthis? How y'all don't know? Jack
ward Wright just telling y'all what sheheard on the internet too, right there,
Because guess what I could easily telly'all. I was at uptown YEP,

(53:30):
and I heard conversations between Andre andI'll be sure or I could tell
y'all I heard conversations. I couldtell y'all that I used to go to
the same hair salon with Diddy's playcousin, and she told me, what
was y'all? Yeah, just it'sit's it's gottom wore me out, so
got durn bad. I need better? And then what really wore me out?

(53:53):
Fifty This damn little sex workers things. I want to I want a
tea shirt that say little sex Workers. But I don't want people to think
I'm a If y'all don't start readingthis, I am. Fifty is awful.
He is. You know, it'scrazy because someone said I don't want

(54:15):
to like fifty cent, and Ihave every reason not to like fifty cent,
but something about him is I stillfind it amusing. And that's where
I'm at because the parent in memakes me loathe fifty cent for the way
he treats Marquise Right, But justthe one thing that I have always loved
about fifty cent is the very samething I've always loved about Kate Michelle.

(54:37):
When they do interviews, if theydon't like Carla, they're going to tell
you, I don't like Carla,and this is why I don't like Carla.
They're not going to get on thereto Matt Well. You know,
it's some people in the street tryingto you know, you know some people
they try to pretend they're your friendsand then they be doing X y Z.
No is going to call people outby name, right, Yeah,

(54:58):
And that's one of the things thatI am joy by about him. That's
one of the things that I alwaysloved about ky Michelle, even the times
I felt like she should keep hermouth shut, but when she opened it,
I knew it was gonna be agood interview. Never failed. True.
Yes, that's the truth her andfifty cent gonna always deliver. Yeah.
And so now fifty cent, youknow, his baby mama, Daphne

(55:19):
Joy, was listed in the amendedversion of Little Rid's lawsuit, listing her
as one of the little sex workers, allegedly, so fifty cent do what
you do? He got on socialmedia and now everything is like little sex
worker, this little sex worker.That well, then Daphne clapped back by
accusing fifty cent of the R wordand a physical and sexual assault is what

(55:45):
she did. She says she's tiredof protecting his image, so on and
so forth. You know, theyhave their son, eleven year old sire
and she was like, well,if we want to start talking about people's
wrongdoings, let's talk about the realvillain and all of it, and then
she hit fifty cent with the sexual, sexual and physical assault allegations, and

(56:09):
you said, two things can betrue. And the Carfax report does show
that fifty cent had been arrested priorfor some type of assault, some type
of assault on a woman, andthat woman turned out to be Daphne Joy
because I remember their publicists released astatement saying that you know, they had

(56:32):
a little tift, but they loveeach other and blah blah blah blah blah
blah. So it's been documented,right, it's sexual assault. I don't
know, but I feel like thetiming is very, very uncanny. I'm
one of those people who like tobelieve women, right, but that ain't
something I'm holding close to the vestis to protect your image when I know

(56:53):
you've done that to me, Yeah, even for this, I'll protect my
son. So what in what instanceif you were if you were hanging on
to this to protect fifty cents image, even if you were only protecting the
image for the sun, then hecalled you a little sess worker, as

(57:15):
according to a documented lawsuit, andyou felt like now was the time to
air him out. Well, that'swhy I think it's it could be.
That's tough. The timing of itis is crazy because the first thing you
think about is like, it's hertalatory, right because of what you know.
Fifty's on. Fifty is wrong,fifty is totally wrong. I don't

(57:36):
care what their relationship is, likethis call your sons to make fun of
a situation like that, and that'syour child. That's just that's low.
That's low. It is he's elevenyears old. He can read that like
we're not talking about a baby thatcan't. Yep, that's low. She's
in her I think she got inher fields. And I agree, I
think the timing of it. Butif there's some documentation that he's assaulted or

(57:58):
even if it was physical and itwasn't so, I feel like if you
if you're capable of the salt,you're capable of all types of the salt.
If you physically a saut that you'vealready verbally and emotionally assaulted me,
right there is the chances of itare high. Yep. But I'm like
you too, like the timing.That's why the space where I'm like two
things can be true, right,but timing in the world that we live

(58:21):
in now. Yeah, I seethat timing has become a huge factor.
Right, people act like they wantthinking. If you do not report something
three minutes after it happened, thenyou lie in That's what I said.
Who are we to tell a victimwhen they're to when they're there? Yeah,
you get me that. I feelweird about that. It is because

(58:44):
it is it's a weird thing todo. Yeah, there are some people
who are suppressing and pushing things downthat we have no idea that they're done
with. Yeah, that's that's thetruth. So you can't tell somebody how
to process something, how to putsomething. I just don't know. Like
this whole thing, Little Rod hasliterally set an atomic bomb in the middle

(59:06):
of the entertainment. Indurry, Yes, it all starts and little ry I'll
piggyback. I still say Cassie.I still go back to Cassie because,
like, you know, what makesit so weird, right when you start
looking at all of this and thenwe're getting all these stories after Cassie and
then little Ryde too, Little Rodeis really excited. It just shows you,
like, literally, these celebrities,ain't everybody one degree away from everybody?

(59:27):
So I feel like we're gonna literallystart seeing more and more people implicated,
more and more people getting in theirfeelings because think about it, like
look at the Daphne situation. Thisall started because of allegations with Ditty,
Right, so now now she airsout fifty Right, here's oh Man who
happens to be Ditties like new butnewgious. Yeah, it's all such a

(59:54):
mess, like how everybody's connected,you know in the movies when they have
all the photos on the wall andhave the strings connecting everybody. That's what
it is, what it is.You know what I think about Kuba because
like I go back to Cuba Goodand Junior, like now you even brought
him in and and now we're like, all right, well he was groping
already. I think we talked aboutthe last he's known for growth. He

(01:00:17):
was groping already. Yeah, likewe already know. That's like yep,
That's what I'm saying is now everything'skind of like linking back to like,
Okay, this stuff is really startingto really sound like it's the truth,
because everything's not gonna you know whatI mean, The pieces are starting to
I I feel like all these allegationsthat we heard, and even the other
people that are implicated, we've heardthis stuff before, or there's factual or

(01:00:39):
they've been incriminated, I mean,you know, or they've been convicted or
they settled, whatever the case maybe. You can always go back and
say, oh, well, yeah, I remember when they said this or
this happened. Here's enough, here'shere's what I would love to see.
Well, let me just rewind realquick. What Cassie's lawsuit has showed up

(01:01:00):
us and what Little Ride's lawsuit hasshowed us is that people will sit on
a secret and people will keep secrets. First of all, not only did
Cassie sit on however long she waswith Diddy damn near over a decade,
ten years almost. I believe itwas a lot. I don't know why

(01:01:22):
eleven is sitting in my head,but I feel like she was with the
man at eleven years. I believe, according to what my brain is saying,
she sat on secrets for eleven years. Do you know what the things
that she has seen, heard,experienced, saw just all of it?

(01:01:43):
Right? Little Ride was at Ditty'shouse for what a year while working on
the love album. Why is everybodythere always a year. That's something too,
that's a common usher. Was therea year? Like why does it
take? Like, No, I'mserious, that's how long the contract.
That's a long time. So butthat's a long time to be living with
someone. I'm just saying that's liketo live. Yeah, yeah, I

(01:02:04):
guess he was working, So yougonna know a lot. The reason I'm
saying that is you're gonna know alot about that person. You come live
with me for a year, You'regonna be like, I ain't know that
much to be she want to bewashing dishes right after she cooked dinner.
This should be sitting in the kitchenovernight kind of nasty, right, Like,
you listen, you come live withme, you're gonna learn things about
me that you didn't necessarily know,even if I didn't even tell you,

(01:02:27):
like up front. You'll see mymannerisms. You'll see the way I handle
myself, You'll see the way Ihandle other people. Yes, so just
alone, Just just think about themagnitude and the amount of secrets that we
just got from Cassie and Rode alone. Right, whether or not you believe
them to be true, whether ornot they are true or are not true,

(01:02:51):
fabricated, embellished whatever. Right,Think about if we added Mesa to
that pot, if Kein Porter wasin that pot, talk if Stevie J
would tell the truth because stee thetruth talking too much to did you see
the little Clippy did? Yes?But on TMZ, I've never seen my

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brother do anything. SEEJ stop stopstop like at this point, like he
was better off just being like yougotta be quiet made his case worse.
I feel like he made these caseworse. I'm gonna just be honest with
you because now you now you're fallinginto lanes of perjury. Yeah, like
yeah, they just stop like youcan't with the thought Let's keep it hard

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now, Okay, So think aboutjust in the fold of the secret keepers,
right, we talking Stevie J.We talking d ANGELETTI not saying that
they they are guilty. What I'msaying is what they know. Think about
what Finsworth Bentley no holding that umbrellarunning around m So imagine if everybody in

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the industry just connected to Ditty ornot right, if everybody in the industry
started telling the secrets that they know. But let me tell you why,
we will never get the full secretsbecause a lot of people are implicating,
absolutely implicate them a whole lot offoods. That's why it's so much silence

(01:04:24):
around it. If you really knowthis, you could hear a rat piston
on cotton around this. Didn't somebodyto be so popular? Right? Think
about how popular did he is?Like everybody's distancing themselves or all of them?
All of them, I think maybeJock And I'm trying to think of

(01:04:45):
the ones that are actually speaking outfor speaking out for him a little bit.
Yeah, I don't like it.I stopped, but don't like it.
I gotta know you know who Iwant to talk, Oh, Mason
Betha. Yeah, listen, that'swhat I think. What ever, I
don't think it'll ever happen. That'swhen that's when the gates of hell gonna

(01:05:09):
flood over if Mason Betha, Becausedid y'all forget that Mace has experienced or
seen something that made him run frombad boys straight into a church exactly facts
And back then we wasn't we waslaughing. But when you really look at
it, that's deep for you togo from literally go from bad, but
going from being a million like beingon top of the world, as what

(01:05:32):
we would think, what can shine? What can shine tell us? What
can Loon tell us? What cang Depth tell us? J Lo out
here knowing jay Lo, whats jLo know? She would all the side
after the vision to listen. Jennyleft the block and everybody else behind.

(01:05:57):
She left the whole block, awhole like, just think about the just
think about the secret keepers, likeif oh, if Mace, ooh Mace,
if you just ever just want totell us just something I know child
Jeans still talking, Jene gonna beGene said, I'll put jacified. And
all they got to do is Jeenewaiting to be subpoena. Think about the

(01:06:17):
people that actually that's something, gosh, we got we want to know on
that. That's a whole another show. Think about the people that are going
to be subpoena period. Anybody thatwas mentioned in Little Ride's civil case,
Mmmm, they're suben I believe Ididn't write it on the website, but
I just will mention it here becauseprobably by next week we'll have more details

(01:06:41):
and it will be more of atalking point. But there are rumblings that
the same attorney that filed Little Rode'slawsuit is now preparing another lawsuit against Christian
comes, accusing him of sexual assaultand drugging a young lady. Mmmm.
That's the timing on that is crazybecause I'm out the window yesterday talking about

(01:07:05):
she condemned Homeland Security. Just isabout to ask you about that. Was
that true? She condemned Homeland Securityfor their militarized raid on Diddy's home.
The fact that they put guns toChristian's head, put had red dots on
Justin's chest, infra reds, youknow, just the old she She condemned

(01:07:27):
them for the excessive force that theyused going into Ditty's house and saying that
they their whole goal was to terrorizeinnocent young black men. Now meet God,
stop the young and they black andthey men right? And what about
the dad innocent is left to bedetermined because Daddy won there? What about
that? Daddy? Aw Listen.I saw a video of Diddy with a

(01:07:48):
white man in Miami, him andStevie J. And they just had a
good ass time. So Diddy ain'teven starting, Okay. I mean that's
when you take it up with don'tget up with Homeland that's they're doing their
job. They're doing their job.I don't I don't know. I don't
mean to cut you off, butI've seen until people have experienced it.

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That's that's what they do when theywhen they have a search warrant. They
do that to everybody. You know, this is what happens when the title
people feel like you know you said, they do it to everybody. Why
do my melanated people the first thingout, I think they didn't. They
wouldn't have done this to a whitefamily, and they wouldn't have done this,

(01:08:30):
done this two of that stop ourpeture. We can go back and
find it. Yes, they do, and we can go back, I'm
sure, and we just can't thinkof nothing and we can. They do.
Believe me, they do. It'sjust wild. How you know how
much effort I put into making sureI pass along accurate information to the best
of my ability, and y'all questionedme, But y'all will believe anything.

(01:08:55):
Claudia and Jordans ought to be embarrassedto say that they open our be Sure's
body and it was liquified that that'sI would I would like I would have
had that. It was too late. Now it's out there. I'll be
trying to rip that down. Thataudio that visual that everything like it never
existed. I'd be like, Iwas drunk, y'all. Something I was.
I was on Dravas medic I wason that Pink I was on that

(01:09:16):
Pink cook I am now. Iwas on that Tucci, y'all. I
was on that Tucci. I believeDiddy had drugged me while I was live
or my live stream. I don'tknow how he reached me, y'all.
Everybody now speaking out like and it'sjust it's just a mess. We're this
is going to be going on forfor a long time now, but it's

(01:09:39):
just getting messier and messier a minute. Yeah, it really is, because
now I'm not believing anything. Ithink I saw something where they said MGK.
I don't know how true it is, but MGK said he was at
a Diddy party and whatever the helldid he gave him. He was outside
dancing butt naked or something crazy.I'm like, now here you go wanting
to seeking attention again. I'm justtrying to see some people just out here

(01:10:00):
just trying to get it, seekingattention, or he tired of keeping the
secrets because you know he did MGKdirty, He threw he threw that white
boy a way, I know,but MGK just took me in. Yeah,
diddy, diddy Diddy did, buthe just MGK took me as one
of them. Due to that's likea like an ilbe sure. I'm sorry,
Yeah, I think so. Imight be wrong though, like you
said, I completely forgot all hedid him. You're right, I forgot.

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I ain't keeping your secret. Youdid me. You me to the
dust you know what, y'all?They throw people out and may be rolling
on the ground and the dirt andthe dust bomb come up behind him.
That's how he did mg K.So I don't know, guys. By
Carlo said, this is going tobe something that will be continually unfolding.
I'm still waiting on all the peoplewho claimed they was gonna counter see little

(01:10:45):
ride for lyon here. Yet wewere waiting, we waiting. So yeah,
all right. So with that beingsaid, thank you so much for
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you got any parton words? Forthese people who believe anything they see on
the internet, y'all, stop,just please, do you do some damn
homework. Stop being lazy. Goat least like you've got. Everybody got

(01:11:30):
a smartphone, at least at leastI can't even say, at least google
it, but at least try tofind two different sources that say the same
damn thing, y'all. It's toolotified, yo, I can't get over
that. I think that's going tobe the title today's podcast. God it
is watch. I feel Black Jesusat Linux. Mall, y'all either,

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Oh, I'm stuck now. Idon't know if I want liquified or Black
Jesus at Linux. Mm Jesus atLinux. I think I'm gonna go with
Black Jesus. So I just wantall of you to try to live your
life to the fullest. I don'tknow if you can fathom living it like

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every day is your last, butjust remember that God got you, you
know. At this point, I'mwaiting for people to be like on Facebook.
Mark yourself safe from Diddy It's coming. Mark yourself Safe from Ditty in
the comments below, And just knowthat Black Jesus at Lenox Mall is always
watching and he's looking over you,even if you ask. All Weedy's house

(01:12:36):
sleeping. Turn on the gospel music, all right, so we love y'all.
Thank you for tuning in. IC C we all We got peace.
Love y'all, BikeE.