Ep. 386: Flicted

Tune in to Episode 386 of the Ice Cream Convos Podcast as Xaviera and Karla honor DJ Mister Cee and delve into hot topics like the Solar Eclipse, OnlyFans in Loganville, celebrity scuffles, J. Cole's apology to Kendrick Lamar, their stance on Jerrod Carmichael, Aoki Lee Simmons' sugar daddy, and breaking news on O.J. Simpson.

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the ice Cream Convos podcast, wherewe serve delicious scoops of entertainment and celebrity
news. I'm your host Xaviera,and I'm your co host Carla, and
thank you so much for tuning intotoday's show. Listen me and Carlo.
We both down bad. My stomachbubbling. I don't feel good. My
netlift nodes feel like this swollen.Oh, I'm afraid that I might have

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long COVID do you think. So, yeah, I'm really concerned at this
point. Ago was it how longhas it been since I think I had
cod? Was it February that Ihad COVID or was it early March?
I feel like it was February.I feel like it's been definitely longer than
I think it was February. Butyou had it for a while, so
it was like, that's yeah,and you still feel like you have And

(02:01):
well, I've had I've had COVIDhow many times? I think there's three
or four times now, at leastthree, at least three, But this
last time, it just I hadthat long lingering cough after the fact,
like I don't test positive anymore,but it's just like I just never felt
like I got back one hundred percentafter that. So yeah, and I'm

(02:23):
going to tell Starbucks to kiss mybehind, right, because when I woke
up this morning, I ain't feelgood and my throat felt a little weird,
and I was like, well,you know what, I'm gonna go
get a mocha Chuck hold a latte, which translates into a hot chocolate,
and I got it. I orderedit. I got a tall right,
which is supposed to be I guess, like, I don't know Starbucks lingo,

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but I'm assuming it's like a medium, maybe a tall, which sounds
wild. I don't know at all. That's why I'm listening to you,
right, and I might be wrong. It's somebody right now yelling at this
podcast as tall as not immedia.But I thought I ordered a medium.
So she hands it to me,and I'm like, you know, this
cup feel really lighting? Ass?I like to ask, Yeah, it

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felt real light, nass. Itook the lid off, girl White.
The cup was only filled three quartersof the way. First of all,
y'all already charging me five dollars hotchocolate, Yo, that thing better be
filled up with. Okay, getthe creeb on top of not. I
lean this cup. The minute Ilean this cup, stuff should be spilling
out. Yes, why is thiscup three quarters of the way. If

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I felt up to it and myhair didn't look like a bird's nest,
I would have went in there andlet those people have it for playing.
I just you know, you needto stop. I have been this mode
right now where I feel like everybodyplayed in my face. You're your bag.
I ain't eve gonna hold you.Definitely are your bag, But hey,
it is what it is. Imean, come on now, fight

(03:53):
out. First of all, inflationain't funny straight, And then I'm paying
five dollars for a hot chocolate thatI could have bought a whole box full
of Swissmiths for five dollars. Yes, are you a Swiss Smith's girl,
girl? No, I like Swissmiss with the little with the little fake
marshmallows. That that you're doing largejoints that sit on the top like the

(04:14):
marshmallows a lucky charge, and I'mlike, damn, things is hard,
said they lucky char Remember our luckycharge marshmallows used to be hard as a
delicious don't play but you're not goingto do it. Sit up here and
shit on lucky charge. Were notplaying, not going No, No,

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I'm just saying that marshmallows are similar. But no, I hear you like
the prices. I feel like thisanything I'm paying for now, it needs
to be perfect. What they chargingus. We're literally getting less for more
and we're paying more. Absolutely absolutelylisten while you playing, I have been
riding around Loganville. I live inLoganville, and I have been riding around

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Loganville and in the Walmart part lot, I am noticing more and more only
fans decals on the back of peoplecars whoa dec Yes, I thought we
were getting down. That's branding.It is branding, and logan Like it
will literally be like, hey,not only fans like their logo is written

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kind of incursive. I guess yes, and it will be like only fans
for it slash zaviera on in theback. How many think you've seen I've
probably seen about at least three atthis point at this and Loganville ain't that
big? And I'm like, yo, were busting it wide open and Loganville,

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that's what we're doing. That gotout the you know, the Lord
only got to show me something threetimes for me to start feeling like,
let me find out all right nowyou don't have drinking lattes because y'all Bird
started clicking these links and reading theseblog posts. I listen, please listen.

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I have one detail away from beingon only fans in Loganville they might
be getting I wonder if, likesome of the ones that you're seeing with
the decals, if they like ourfriends or or or why don't you call
the peers I want to. Iwant to try to get one of the
names, like just to see,like what we're really doing out here.
Yeah, yeah, you know whatI'm saying. I'm curious. I gonna
hold you. I want to know, like, then what with I guarantee

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you that they're probably affiliated though,But what's crazy is like, of course,
when you hear only fans, thefirst thing, first thing you think
is something freaky or nasty. Butonly Fans is just a fans subscription platform.
I live in Loganville, so itmay be some people on their chopping
wood. It might be people onthere trying to I'm on stop playing you

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playing games? We talking about YouTube? You tell you don't have people.
You said, what kind of whatI sling that wood? Yeah? I
slang that wood. I just nonechecked them. Okay, I see what

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you did right there, Besty,you're kicking it off earlier you did.
But no, like you're right,we do have to look at you have
a good point. Do people useonly fans for like regular stuff though,
non sexual I'll say stuff. Ithink so, but it's not a lot
of them. I mean the onesbread right. If you want to make

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you know, some chunk change andso okay, you want to you can
teach me how to crochet. Butif you if you want to get a
monthly subscription. But as naked though, that's that's the thing though, they
we stopped. I ain't wanna giveyou no ideas. Don't give me no
idea. Let me stop. Iwould bring new to the platform. What's

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so crazy is like, you know, I mean, only fans is like,
you know, it explodes. Ican't even talk. It exploded during
the pandemic. But I'm going totell you the one only fans that I
did not expect and you mentioned itand now I just can't unsee it or
unthink about it. And it's fourfrom Black and cru Chicago. I'm so

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mad, Like I am so madthat I was even introduced. I don't
even know like how I found out, but it it. Oh my god.
I blame Twitter. Twitter told me, yes, I think it was
Twitter. I blame Twitter. AndI was like, I was like,
four, okay, four, becauseyou know four is kind of cute.
And don you know, for andDon, just to be fair, for

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and Don are attractable. I can'ttalk today. They are attractive brothers and
attractive black men. You know,Donnas like family. You know Donna's ICC,
but I don't know for personally,and I'm kind of glad I don't,
cause I don't know how our commonconversations would go from this point for

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it, because baby, I wentto his timeline and stalled four doing some
things I never expected in my entireblack ass life to see. For you,
I'm telling you it's too much.It's too much. Go ahead,
you going to tell him? Helpme gotta tell you. For those that

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don't know y'all, I know mostof y'all have probably seen it, just
because I think at one time,then he go like somewhat viral over something.
I just can't play he went viralover something. First of all,
he is having just all like justflat out cheak clapping sex on his only
fans. I saw him in adog collar being walked. I seen him

(09:46):
being walked like he doll. Iseen him in a what do you call
it? A crate? You sawhim in a girl by, You saw
him in a crazy Yes, sothe car, Yeah, Carlo Taquana Brown,
you saw him in Amos. I'mmixing him up with something I had

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to be. Oh, my dearGeorge Jesus, it was either him or
one of the girls. Maybe itwas one of the girls, because like
it was a whole thing with likethe chicks right a crazy. I've seen
a lot, and I'm so madthat I seen it. Like I'm going,
I'm about to go to his timelineright now. His name. No,
I don't trying to put me wait, so for me, I was

(10:33):
taken out of my comfort zone whenI saw his bossy. Yes, I
was not expected to see for hisNo. Listen, as soon as I
went to his Twitter, the firstthing I see is content warning. The
post author flagged this as showing sensitivecontent, and it says, wake up

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early and get the worm. Let'ssee what he's showing me. Who oh
oh we're going and going down there. Oh so this involves lubricant. Mm
hmm. Okay, here's one thingyou can say. Yeah, say,

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you don't know how you're gonna cleanthis thing out because he just he goes
too far. I can imagine,you know what, it's crazy because he
makes my how can I say thiswithout your all side eye and me for
makes my inner pervert blush? Doesthat make sense? Yeah? Man,
I feel I hear what you're saying, but he doesn't even though there's certain

(11:43):
things that I'm just like, youknow, like okay, say, for
instance, if somebody's nudes leak,you'll be like, what, let me
go see real quick, just seelike or makes me feel like I shouldn't
have went over there to look.Yes, I should like what I'm looking
at right now, Like hold on, let me show you what I'm looking
at right now, hold on,hold on. So hause he just go

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to me. He just going I'mjust gonna show you, and then we're
gonna move on because people at home, like I can't see, yes,
exactly, y'all. Once I wasthinking about reaching out to him to see
if I'm just saying I would lovehim, like I'm not judging. It's

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just some things like I love,but some things it's just not my you
know, a cup of tea,and I ain't judging. And and that's
the way, like the cool partthat I love about it is that somebody
feels like free enough to to dothat, you know what I mean.
So, Okay, I I hadthe courage. Okay, here's here's the
courage that he's given us this morning. Oh wow, Okay, what thing

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you ain't gonna say, is hea part of the you're not going?
Yeah? Okay, then all right, all right, see that. That's
that's good. That's okay, that'sgood context. He'll get a little five
dollars of money out of you forthis. Let me just subscribe. You

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don't know with me to wait?This inflation set up that I can't afford
nobody. Uh, Carla, Sorry, so y'all say, y'all wait,
wait, wait, wait, waitCarla, Carla. Oh my gosh,
I was gonna move on, butCarla early, Carla, Carla, Carla.

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Okay, you see where that's going, right, Oh my gosh,
yes, wait serious, I promise, I promise. We may need to
start recording this podcast over baby,I need to tap out, yo,

(14:01):
I need to too early. Itain't even noon. Why you playing,
y'all? We just saw we justsaw four getting his clapped. All right,
so let me go ahead and putthis phone down, do not disturb,
and let's start this podcast because Iwas not expecting it to go this
way this early. Just for thosewho are curious, just go to force

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Twitter and you will know exactly whatwe saw this morning. Okay, I'm
over there, Yes, all right, Carlo, let's just let's just wrangle
ourselves and together, because right nowI feel like we I feel like we
jumped off a cliff right now.Before we've moved forward in the podcast,
I do want to take a momentto extend our sinceres condolences and prayers to

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the family of DJ mister C.The legendary New York icon passed away.
The news came out yesterday at theage of fifty seven. If you're not
familiar with mister c legacy, hewent to high school with Big Daddy Kane.
He rose to fame as Big DaddyKane's DJ, and most notably,

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he discovered the notorious Bich. MisterC is I just personally feel like the
most iconic DJs in hip hop cameout of New York and he is definitely
you know, if there was amountrushmore, mister C would definitely be on
there. Absolutely. You know,throughout his life there were some controversial moments,

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but we'll go ahead and just letlet them be where they are.
And you know, considering the situationat hand, but definitely a blow to
the hip hop community, oh yeah, huge blow. And you know,
his talent is unmatched. His legacywill forever remain. I saw something.

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I believe I wrote it myself.Hold on. It was just the phrase
was just like, not only didhe leave leave a mark on hip hop,
but he also leaves a legacy forother people, like almost like a
blueprint for other DJs who are comingup in the years to come, that

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they can look at him and belike, yeah, so I agree.
Yeah, so the Lord said,told the finisher that he's finished. He
can come home and rest now.So yeah, to the family. Absolutely,
absolutely the eclipse, Carla, didyou look at the eclipse? Chiwd

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No, Look, the crazy partwas like I was outside doing like some
yard stuff, and all of asudden you could just feel like it gets
kind of cold, and then it'slike a shadow, so like my back
was facing but I was out likedoing it. But no, I didn't,
you know, I was just doingmy regular thing. Well, I
had your little glasses. I hadthe little glasses. Yeah, I'm going

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to tell you, I'm just gonnaa bean Like this eclipse stuff. Y'all
made a whole big deal out ofit, but I was disappointed. I'm
gonna tell you it was very underwhelming, and it was underwhelming for me because
I lived in one of the demographicswho only I didn't get a full night
time during the daytime. I wanteda full night time. I wanted to

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feel like a horror movie where Iwas going to have to run back inside
the house and close the door andlock it because I didn't know what was
gonna pop out when it got dark. You'd had to ride to Texas and
what was close What was closer toyou Texas or Kentucky. And I'm trying
to think of some of the placesthey got down to Texas. I know
a couple of people that yeah,yeah, with the Texas, Yeah,

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some of the Texas ICC friends andI think New Mexico maybe, yep,
that same little area. So theygot the full blackout and got the full
experience of it. But I wentoutside and I was like, now,
it did get a little dimmer,but it got dimmer in the way that
when the sun is out in ina storm is coming right, you know,

(18:02):
I'm talking about like that little overcasttype of dim But man, I
wanted I was expecting a full blackout, and the other thing just just out
of curiosity with something of the magnitudeof an eclipse, A solar eclipse that
is already all over the news andall over the media. Why do y'all

(18:22):
think y'all need to take a pictureof it with your cell phones and put
it all up and down my socialmedia timeline. It's attention. I mean,
we all look at me. Igot the picture, I got the
it's that whole you know how itgoes. Yeah, some people literally just
rode down the Texas just for theshot. And I get that like a
personal thing, like if you wantto keep. But a lot of the

(18:45):
social media, a lot of itis to say, hey, look look
at my shot. I got it, And I mean there is nothing magnificent
about looking at it. It justlooked like a little dots with a little
blow around this. So it's notlike something mind blowing but hype, I
guess of it, and people justI don't know. Yeah, I did
hear someone say that the most illestphoto that they did see of the eclipse

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somebody was in a plane. Ohwow, sad to be amazing. Yeah,
i'ma have to look that up.I'm sure that's floating around. Yeah,
you know, I had to praya couple times where I went outside
of them glasses because I just feellike Murphy's Law is right next door to
me. And I was like,Lord, if these glasses don't work and
I end up needing to see aneye dog, who am I gonna blame

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to stare outlaw for the time.That's another thing, the hype of this,
like who's gonna directly stare into thesun? Anyway? You can't.
Your reflex is automatic, right,And then it's like why would you Like
I remember as a kid, itwas just funny to me that they made
a big thing on the media.I think that was the sell the glasses.
Of course we learned that in school. I remember learning that in elementary

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school, like, if there areever solar eclipse you can't look into you
know, directly, then then yourforty six? Was it? Forty six?
President? Try to look at it, child, You can't tell me
nothing. He tried to look atit. Bless his heart. Bless Hillary
Clinton. Yeah, let me tellyou something about Hillary Clinton that is a

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shady ass lady. Any opportunity thatshe can get to post some shady sh
isn't it about Donald Trump on socialmedia? She gonna do it. They
all they are like, it's justfunny to see politicians now use social media
like muslinging has always been the thingin politics, but to see it play
out like because now you get theyget looser, like you can get a

(20:32):
little more looser than I love it. At this point, I'm like,
I just y'all just want to seey'all fight, right exactly what that bill
shoot affair one with Trump girl wouldpay top dollar? Oh my gosh,
I don't know that. I don'tthink you. I don't think who you
think gonna come out on top won'tcome out on top with that one that
we want to come out on top. I think Johnald Trump whip his ass.

(20:56):
You think Donald Trump or what Billy? Yeah? Really? Trump got
I don't Trump got ADHD. Andthat's no offense to anybody that my son
has no offense. But everyone knowsanyone that has ADHD. And I'm not
I'm an advocate for you. Ain'tyou? You have extra energy, that

(21:19):
hyperactive disorder? So that's why I'msaying that. And he's younger, right,
isn't he younger? Yeah? Butyou look at that tub around that
waistuff. I'm saying that's weight behindhim. No, no, no,
no, I am not a Trumpfan. But no, no, no,
I know, I know, Iknow you don't like Trump. Let
me hold on, hold on,because I feel the debate coming on.
I feel, first of all,you got to take into consideration Bill Clinton's

(21:42):
wind this inwards saxophone. She's gotlong wind. The one thing that happens
in fights is people get wind atCarla, don't. But I saying about
a fair fight. Are you're talkingabout a legit like with rules fight.
Are we just talking about like anout street brawl, like a squabble.

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Oh they's squabbling now they squabbling.I want to squabble. I want to
squaw a squabble. I got Trump. If we're talking about a real deal,
like a fight with like legit rules, I got I would have Clinton.
But you know Trump would get dirty. I could see Trump doing all
kinds of your Wednesday. I justsee him getting winded man that little yeah.

(22:26):
But if you could, if youcould cheat the wind like, That's
why I said that it looked likeback getting winded. At least Bill can
put on the super still. Absolutely, That's why I said Clinton has Bill
has to fight fight. If we'retalking about a legit fight, the squabble
on the street No, that's interesting. That's interesting because that could be wrestling

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anything. And even though he gotthat butt, like if he gets he
gets Bill on the ground, it'sover. What Why was I literally sitting
here thinking like, don't get himon the ground. Yo, The worst
thing ever as someone who used tofight, because I had to somebody get
you on the ground and your shorty. That's why you had to come out,

(23:11):
and you had to come out quickword windmilling, the whole nine.
You got to fight for your life, you hear me. Don't let nobody
get you down around take them downfirst. Yes, sh that is so
funny. I can't believe you eventalking about president that. I told you
entertainment entertaining that Oh my gosh,Yeah that's wild. Yes, okay,

(23:38):
just randomly entertaining just because I mean, shit, we already going downhill at
this point. Who else would youwant to? Like? Who are two
random people that you would want tosee? Enough the famous people celebrities fight.
I kind of want to see thatfifty cent Stevie J fight. I

(23:59):
think that will make a good celebrity, Like that would make celebrity. I
see there's like several different platforms thatare doing don't. I don't think.
I don't think they don't. Ireally don't think. Let me tell you
why. I really don't think thecelebrity box and match stuff like will really
come back and take off because theway people can get roasted on social media.
I think nobody's willing to risk takingan l in front of everybody.

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You know, at one point intime before the social media era, you
know, we used to have thecelebrity boxing matches and things of that nature.
And then I think, wasn't itlike a TV cartoon or something like
Celerity But as far as like justa fifty cent and a Stevie j like
really getting in the really good pointthe egos, and I know you have

(24:52):
a good point. All we're goingto get is like d lists yeahless that
that need to pay the rent?Yeah, like God rest his soul.
But Aaron carr And like Lamar thatshould have never been never been a fight
no, or Peter gunns and andCisco like Dad is outrighted. Wait,
but isn't Tyson You're right? Fightuh? Jake Paul? Yeah? And

(25:15):
I still feel interested. I haven'teven seen I feel like it's fixed.
I feel like it's fixed and I'mvery I'm so nervous because I feel like
it's fixed. I feel like Tysonis going to throw the fight just to
just to elevate Jake Paul's name inthat field on because first of all,

(25:37):
Mike Tyson don't need fighting clout nomore. He don'ty that part. He
can easily say, I'm dog,I'm damn near sixty years old, like
post fight, post fight, hecould say I don't need this boxing cloud,
damn near sixty years old. That'strue. I got a dispensary,

(26:02):
I got a popular podcast. I'mstill in shape. I'm in shaping up
the beat your daddy's and uncles upat the barbecue. So I don't really
need to beat Jake Paul in thefight. Think about the purse that he's
gonna walk away he's gonna walk awaywith after fighting Jake Paul and then Jake
Paul. That elevate that. That'syea out of here. I love that

(26:25):
I beats like that. I neverthought about that. Yeah, Tyson going
through that fight, Yeah, hejust better make he just better not make
it look like he threw it.That's what it's gonna Yeah, me too,
me too. I think everyone willand that could back That whole thing
is backfire if it doesn't look real. Yep, it's not gonna work for
Jake either. Yeah, exactly,It's not like when is the fight.

(26:47):
I'm going to look at that whenthey're supposed to fly July. Of course.
You know I'll put out all thetune in reminders and everything. Yeah,
I know you will. I don'twant no situation where Jake Paul punched
Mike Tyson and he goes and spinaround on his heel and fall out.
No, no, everybody in theroom gone to fight me. Why you
saynd like the uh, the JamieJamie Fine who played Mike Tyson, Oh

(27:15):
my gosh. And and and Ithink Michael John played in in a move
in a movie. A couple ofpeople played Tyson. Yeah, you just
gave me a whole different because Iwas trying to figure it out, like
why would like what is in itfor Tyson? But I love how you
laid it out there. That's andlike I said, I hope they don't
it's not obvious. Yeah, itjust better not be out y'all better,
y'all better bring in Steven Spielberg ory'all better bring in Antoine Fuquah to do

(27:40):
this cinematography and to do the directing, because this thing better looked like some
top er, blockbuster movie. Becauseright now, y'all playing in my face.
Don't play in my face. Thefact that they're even fighting each other,
they're already playing in my face.But y'all just better sell it.
Sell it. Yeah, that's thething. You gotta sell it. Sell
it to me, or it's notgonna it's not gonna work, because I
already feel like the fix is in. I do for me, I would

(28:10):
like to see let me think ofsomething random. Yeah, I'm gonna go
with some girls, let me pullsome yeah, flee, because that's what
I was just thinking about. I'mlike, I can't even think of I
feel like I'm gonna tell you I'mgonna, Oh, I'm gonna tell you
who I want to see fight,and I don't. It don't need to
be Netflix. All it need tobe is y'all in the club and one

(28:32):
person swing, and I'm gonna needeverybody to back up and just let y'all
fight until somebody yell break it up. I want to see Cardi B and
Nicki Min and I know This isnot gonna get me into heaven. But
I want to see them ladies.This fight so bad. Can the de
left of anamosity against them too?First? That's the age thing. I

(28:56):
mean, I feel like that's awin versus not. See listen, it's
gonna be a whole lot of folks. Mad I got Cardi though, if
it ever went, I got CardyI do yep, the regular Degglar schmeggler
girl from the Brothers who had crookedteeth and still got on the internet and
talk to y'all like she y'all andlet me tell you something else. Them
strippers they can fight. Hell yeah, they can fight because they gotta fight

(29:18):
for their money. They gotta fight, y'all. They gotta fight your baby
daddy off of them in that privateroom. They got to fight. They
have to fight. They have thefact other strippers because the other strippers always
mad because you would have made moremoney than them were. When the ballers
came in. You was infringing apond. They writes. No, them
strippers can fight, yeah for real. And she got so much pens.

(29:40):
And I always felt like when itcomes to the Nicky Carty thing, like
she's gonna like if she ever foughther, she will, Well, she's
taking the most. I feel likeit was NICKI talked more shit than she
did. I always felt that way. And I'm not a you know,
I'm not a bar but I'm notwhat's Cardi's what's Cardi's uh? The Barty,
the Barty? Yeah, I'm theBarbs and Barties pies. I'm not

(30:03):
right. Sounds like everybody should justcome together. Okay, Okay, It's
just they would make so much moremole. It would be incredible to like
see those two come together. Imaginea tour, the amount of mass,
That's what I'm saying. We've neverseen Have we ever seen two top female
hip hop artists tour together? Noteven two male artists because I know well

(30:25):
no, because jay Z and Nascame out on stage and performed like a
song or something like that, butthey never embarked on a full or pledged,
full out tour. You need that'ssh money. Yeah, at least
two tops. That's a problem inour culture. I don't think we've ever
had two like have we not evenjust hip hop? Have we ever had
two like just But it's not justour culture because the rolling Stones never toured

(30:51):
with the Eagles. Yeah, butyou'll see the boy band's tour together.
You see well now and sink andthey'd be out there like I w but
they're not at the top. Butthis is what right, but that's now,
that's now back then what they haveSo no, hello, you have
a good point. Nope, theywouldn't. They would have never interested that.
R Kelly j Z probably would havebeen the best tour if that would

(31:12):
have continued, if didn't Pepper Sprayr Kelly har Kelly was like, bas
up, little did we know thatTata was doing the Lord's work? Right?
I know that they had no ideanow doing the lord's work. What

(31:37):
we did, We did have anidea he was doing the Lord's work.
We just had selective memory because rKelly did that nasty is. We just
had selective memory. And that justgoes back to the fact that we always
argue, depending on how much youlike a celebrity, you will let anything
slide. Yeah, depending on howmuch you like him. Yeah, true

(31:59):
that and you're in your morals andyou're whatever. Man. If we could
ooh ooh, so imagine if DrillerGod, Nicki Minaj and CARDI b to
do a ste No. I don'teven want a celebrity boxing match. I

(32:21):
want some straight up to everybody taketheir nails off and they wigs. I
want both of y'all to come tothe ring with corn rolls to the back,
and I want sports brass one andI want boy shorts on because I
don't want nobody titties popping out.Because we got a lot of we have
a lot of surgery coming into thisstate. We don't need any type of

(32:45):
you know, surgical mouth, youknow situations just come in here. And
I I really feel like, butman, the one thing I would prefer
word than seeing them fight, isto see them piece it up. But
at this point, I don't thinkit could ever ever. You know,
there's a point of no return,and I think they have literally crossed the

(33:06):
point of no return. The onlything that can bring those two ladies together
right now is God. Y'all can'teven get Lewis farrakhand to fix this.
Remember back in the day, allthe rappers used to be like, call
Minister Lewis fharrakand y'all got to callJesus christy. And it's not even like
when you sit down at the endof the day, it's not even like
that deep. You know what it'snot. It's not that the origin isn't

(33:30):
that deep. It's the fans.It's the fans really making it deeper than
what it really is. I honestlydon't think those two. I know they
don't like each other, but Ithink it's more deeper with Oh yeah,
the fan bases are awful. Yeah, it's the fan because as you get
older, humans like you're supposed to. And that's why I'm always shocked at
Nikki, like you should be embracing, like you're at a point in your
life where you should be looking atthings like, yo, let's beef,

(33:51):
I got the better and I'm tryingto build. Yeah, I'm not gonna
go down the Nicki Minaj's rabbit holebecause for things first, I'm not even
in the right mindset to fight barbsthis week. But yeah, all right,
okay, well that was a spiral, So let's go ahead and take
a break. I know, y'allyou'll probably listen to podcasts like yet it.

(34:15):
Both of them are meds right now, I'm pretty sure, and we
are. We are on meds thismorning because we don't feel good. But
let's go ahead and take a break, and then when we come back,
we'll go ahead and get into afew of our topics that we have on
the docket today. All right,So go and grab a drink of water,
go ahead and take a bathroom break, and we'll be right back.

(34:37):
Okay, I see see, friends, We are back, and thank you
so much for tuning into today's podcast. As always, I encourage you to
be a part of the show bydropping down in the comments and letting us
know your thoughts, views and opinionson the topics we discussed today. And
I also encourage you to like andsubscribe to the podcast wherever you listen,
and again, just thank you forlistening. So it was funny during the

(35:00):
break, I was thinking, youknow, we always have our little cidebar
conversations, and I was thinking tomyself, like, you know, you
know, we said that we weregoing to be like more transparent and just
speak our mind a little more onthe podcast this go around, you know,
because in the past we cut up. We the tom foolery and Shenanigans
are always going to be on deck, but we always censored ourselves to a

(35:22):
certain point because we didn't want toget canceled, and we wanted to be
politically correct and we didn't want toupset people or fan bases. And I
was thinking the other day, Iwas like, could could we actually handle
I think it's more me than youbecause you don't really like you know how

(35:43):
to tap out, you know howto tap out disconnect from social media,
like protect your peace. You know, I'm in these streets. I get
mad when people like posts where peoplesay that's because because that's where you let
but you live out, Like it'sa different situation for you, right,
that's what yeah do? Yeah,so I can. I can when you
can, so you know what Imean. But I thought to myself,
I was like, would I beable to handle if you and I said

(36:07):
something on this podcast that went viralfor some reason or we got backlash or
there was an attempt to cancel us. And I thought about it and I
was like, I feel like wecould handle it, but I ain't asking
for it, Black Jesus in themain job, I'm not asking for it

(36:29):
or we're asking for that. We'reno, no, we definitely want to
look up for it. But atthe same time, like this is a
space, this is a conversation.We should. We were supposed to be
able to say how we feel,and I think we just got to a
place where we can't anymore. Nobodycan. Everybody so damn sensitive. That's
not how real life is. That'snot how real life conversations go social media,
you know what I mean? So, Nah, you can handle it.

(36:51):
If it ever does, we can. We definitely can handle it.
And I'm not bringing it on likeI ain't because I'm not. We're not
looking for it. We're not purposefullytrying to egg people on or push people
over the edge. But I dowant to create a space on this podcast
where we can speak freely and wecan share our real thoughts without of course,
we don't want to be offensive oranything like that. You know,

(37:14):
it's a difference between being honest andthen being just downright offensive. We don't
want to be offensive, but wedefinitely will be injecting a little more transparency
and honesty and how we truly feelabout certain things. Because it's funny,
you know, we were just talkingand we were like, I wonder how
people gonna feel about us saying wewould Cardi and Nikki to fight my light,
let the hose fight, you know. But at the same time,

(37:37):
I do get it. I Mean, we're two black women saying we want
to see other women fighting. Butwe're talking about like celebrity fighting. I'm
we're not talking about like flat outjust I'll cut you in the street type
of stuff, something that they willboth profit from. That's why you got
to listen to the whole show too. Everything has we're in contact because we
were talking about celebrity and boxing,and we went from Bill Clinton fighting Trump

(37:59):
down the car. He fights nota piece of what we that's the problem
too. Yeah. So, andthat's why I'm getting into all of that.
Yeah. Yeah, So we're notexplaining ourselves, but we just want
to let you know this is whatwe're fin to be doing. So speaking
of saying something that's gonna push youall off, let's talk about j Cole
because chump, oh lord ad y'allman ass. So I've never seen black

(38:20):
folks so mad. I't I'm tryingto think of the last time I seen
black people that mad. I'm oneof the black people. That's man.
I am Carla, And you know, and it's crazy because I have been
listening to a lot of dialogue aboutthis whole J Cole situation. If you
don't know what we're talking about.Of course, you know, Kendrick Lamar
fire shots at Drake and he threwa little pumpume over at J Cole on

(38:40):
Future In Metro Boomin's track like thatfirst of all, that light track,
that light that track that itself,Yeah, makes me want to put on
a ski mask and ride through somebody'sneighborhood at night, pick a house and
run up in it. I'm justsaying. And it's something about the way
Metro uses like that, like that, like that whistle ad lib at the

(39:02):
and like the beginning I think,like I think the first set of bars
us and others. I love it. I don't know how he do it,
but it's like, I'm a hugeMetro fan now, so listen.
I said on Twitter that if Iwas a stripper, I would only dance
the Metro. But yeah, that'sall he Yeah, it's the best.
He knows how to go get listenquick. He knows how to go get

(39:27):
those gritty hip hop down south withan f those beats that have play and
a and a long, pimped outcar with twenty six inch drims in the
trunk rattling like those the type oftracks that metro Boomin giving you. But
even at the beginning of like that, I love that song so much because

(39:50):
when the song starts, you knowthe beat right that, and then Future
comes on and Future goes I don'tknow what he said, but baby,
whatever Future said in that little Iwas like, who else could mumble this

(40:12):
fly? Yeah, he's got thatmumbo mumbo. He is the face of
that of But him and metro Boomingis they're like a musical marriage that should
stand the test. He just said. I was like, oh my gosh,
I don't know what he said,but it sounds so good to me.
But anyway, J Cole, soKendrick Lamar fires these shots at J

(40:37):
Cole and Drake on like that,and Kendrick went off, Okay, depending
on how you look at it,some people was like it was a little
pune pun and some people was likehe was like, I mean I felt
like it was to me no offense. I felt it was like a twenty
two for Kendrick. That was atwenty two. He yeah, I loved
it, though, I still waslike, oh yeah, yeah, okay,

(40:58):
So I loved it, right becausebecause well, we'll get into it.
So he fires that. So noweverybody like, Okay, what y'all
gonna do? Spider Man means firstperson shooters. What y'all gonna do?
Drake J Cole, What y'all gonnado, y'all gonna say something back to
Kendrick. Y'all just gonna let thisride. What y'all gonna do? Okay?

(41:20):
Two weeks go by, I guessJ Cole drops this mixtape, might
delete later, I'm gonna delete itnow. Okay, So the mixtape is
solid. Let's be fair. Themixtape is solid, and then J Cole
at the very end, he hasa song called Seven Minute Drill where he
fires back at Kendrick Lamar. Now, I have never heard a this song

(41:44):
where an N word sound like helying to himself let alone us. Okay,
I'm just gonna keep it a bean. I'm like, okay, let's
see what type of lyrical bars JCole about the throw at King Kendrick?
Right, what is Coley Cole gettingready to give the kdo? And it
was almost like the only thing thatI can compare it to. And some

(42:07):
of you may remember this and I'mpretty sure a lot of you won't.
The Only thing that I can compareJ. Cole's response to Kendrick Lamar to
is the time Cameron was on oneO six in Park. Remember when Cameron
had the beef with nas for alittle bit. Oh yeah, Cameron was
on one O six in part andhe attempted to talk ish to nas Lie

(42:30):
from one O six in part.He told them put the camera on,
put that camera, put the cameraright here. And he had attempted to
say some slick stuff to nas andCameron's bottom lip was shaken. Oh my
gosh, I don't remember that.That's funny. Oh my goodness, me
and JB gets such a good lifeout of that. To this day,
Camron's bottom lip was shaken while hewas talking trash to nas He was stuttering.

(42:52):
It was like in that moment hewas trying to convince himself that he
had a lyric chance, a lyricalice cube chance in hell of going bar
for bar with Nazia O Ludara Jones. Okay, so that's what I felt
like happened with Kent with with JCole, And there were some people that

(43:13):
was like, oh J Cole ateJ Cole ate, J Cole, you
just there, you lyrically told usthat the man that you have been praising
and that you put in the BigThree got trash albums. You don't even
believe that. We don't believe that, but okay, for the sake of
hip hop. I listened to it. I called JB and I was like,

(43:39):
this, ain't it. J Coletried. It was almost like you
getting ready fight. Let's go backto the celebrity fights. Jendri jabding s
pop one time in the mouth rightnow, he over there wind milling on
drake for J Cole, it wasa pop. J Cole swung back and

(44:00):
missed. You know when you swingingsomebody. They dipped to the sideway.
So J Cole swung and Twitter waseating J Cole up. Damn Cole was
trending. Nah Cole was trending likeit was trending all we all the podcasters
got like, what bro dog,what is this? And then J Cole

(44:21):
was like, you know, don'tmake me have to be like the new
Jack City. Mean, when Ninohad to shoot G money, like he
basically was saying that I love you. I don't want to have to do
this but if I have to dothis, I will do this. It
was a pillow soft response. Butaj J just okay, that's what you

(44:45):
wanted to give us, Okay,So his fans was caping all this.
This was nothing but a warning shot. How do you warning shot a dude
who jabbed you in the mouth.But okay, if that's y'all want to
call it a warning shot, we'regonna call it a warning shot. Fast
forward. Less than seventy two hourslater, j Cole got on stage at
his Dreamville festival and called hisself lameand goofy for responding for just indulging in

(45:12):
this rap beef with Kendrick Lamar.He apologized, and I think speaking of
Nasu Ludara Jones, there was aline in a song where he said you
pop shit and apologized, and thatis exactly what Jake Cole did. Of
course, in the Year of OurLord twenty twenty four, he wrapped up

(45:32):
the apology in mental health, becausewho's gonna talk about Who's gonna go against
mental health? So he encased hisapology and mental health. I couldn't sleep,
it didn't sit right with my spirit. I had to realign. I
had to get on Jesus on themain line to realign my spirit and blah

(45:54):
blah, blah, blah blah.I literally sat up in my bed six
thirty in the morning and called myhusband on his way to work and said,
you're not gonna believe this. Hesaid what I said, Jay Cole
apologized for dis and Kendrick. Idon't know if my husband pulled over on
the side of the road. Idon't know. I don't know, But

(46:16):
what I'm saying is And then whatreally pushed me over the edge was watching
everybody say this some this some realgrown man ish right here. This is
what I'm talking about. I cansee it in your face. I see
your face, Carlo, guess somegrown man ish. We applaud him for
this. This is what I'm talkingabout. All y'all want to see is

(46:37):
two black men tear each other down. This some y'all. I guess I'm
just the person who want to seetwo And it's not that I want to
see two grown black men tear eachother down. I come from an era
of hip hop where you put iton wax, you keep it on wax,
right right, and y'all go barfor bar, word for word until

(47:04):
somebody tap out. And I ain'ttalking about tapping out on stage with an
apology. I'm talking about you dropa dish so hard that the other person
act like they never heard it andthat it never existed, and they never
say nothing else back to you.I come from ether takeover. I come
from who shot you? Hit himup? I come from This is even

(47:25):
common what was? It's the bitchingyou even? This is where I come
from. This is what I grewup in. You know what I'm saying.
So this is my morals and mybeliefs, and this is where I
come from. And the one thingI applaud j Cole for doing whatever it
is that he needed to do forhis mental health. But when I tell

(47:47):
you that that light skinned young manfrom North Carolina can never get on another
track and tell me that he thebest, he can't. You can't yo,
He can't, Yo. That's sofunny. I was like, she
gonna cool by five. No,every time I think about it, I
get mad again. He can't hecan't because best, let's talk about it.

(48:08):
Let's talk not because you love hiphop as much as I love hip
hop. So I'm gonna shut upin a second when I get done this
rant and I'm gonna let you go, but you gotta give me like two
more minutes you can. There areelements to hip hop. Let's talk about
the true elements of hip hop.Let's start with the foundation of hip hop.
It's MCing, be, break dancing, and graffiti. Those are the

(48:31):
elements. So let's slide into let'ssection it out. Let's go into the
MC in part right. The onething about hip hop that makes hip hop
hip hop is the vibrado. Youdon't get on the track and be like,
you don't come up future like I'mnumber two, number two, I

(48:51):
might be the best after Drake.Nobody does that. Everybody says they're the
best, and we have watched Jacob. Jacob has been training for this for
ten years. Every great MC andhip hop, with the exception of Andre
three thousand, has been battle tested. Right if you think about it,

(49:15):
when we talk about our greats andwe talk about our legends, y'all said,
jay Z is the greatest rapper ofall time. And jay Z and
my personal humble black ass opinion tooka l when nods dropped ether if jay
Z, that's a fact, hethank you come on best because I know
a lot of we know that IdianKnids won. That everyone, I mean

(49:37):
even New York said it. It'ssome delulus. It's still some delusions.
Fact it came out in New York, New York said nas one. Okay,
jay Z took an l to etherthat man still survived, he still
lived to fight another day. Hestill be out here talking about he to
bet it wasn't no social media backthen. I'll be wondering too, like

(49:57):
if this is the news, likesocial media be breaking, y'all spirit go
ahead, bestI I'm gonna shut up. I'm gonna shut up because I here's
the thing. I still have lovefor j Cole put on Boarding Center the
day before. Yes, I hadto cut it back off. I just
I had to cut it off.I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready
yet. Damn. It's a disappointment. And I get that like that come

(50:19):
from the same era, like Ithat this is the part. I wish
he never apologized. I feel likeif he didn't apologize, we didn't been
like all right, that was justthe whack ass this like come back and
we would have moved on. ButI think the apology is what that's what
got you tight? Right, it'sthe apology. It's the apology, and
it's him tapping out. I mean, I don't necessarily look at it like

(50:40):
tapping out because to me that thiswas more directed that drink. Maybe I'm
confused and too Okay, so whenI too, let me talk to you.
This is our first hip hop thatbait, Okay, I mean I
don't know. I've listened to thesong probably twice, so I'm not gonna
be no no. Here's why Ifeel like he tapped out, besty.
I feel like he tapped out becauseagain, Kendrick windmilled on Drake, you

(51:02):
said he gonna put for all thedogs in pet cemetery. That it don't
get no deeper than that. Okay. He fired a little shot at J.
Cole with the bop, and thebop was ain't no big three,
It's just big me. Because J. Cole coined the phrase the big three.
J Cole decided that him, Drakeand Kendrick Lamar was the big three.

(51:25):
Okay, how do you put yourselfJ Jermaine Cole Cole? How do
you put yourself into big three?But you don't even feel confident because y'all
can't convince me otherwise, and justdon't even bother. If y'all get down
in the comments, y'all can saywhatever y'all want to me in the comments.

(51:47):
Matter of fact, go into commentsand let me know why you think
J Cole apologized, because I feellike when J Cole dropped seven minute drill
on Friday, if everybody was like, oh, dam okay, Kendrick,
what you gonna do? Now?What you gonna we wouldn't have got that
apology on some no wo. That'swhy I think social media plays a big

(52:09):
part in this whole thing. Absolutely, social media killed J Cole's spirit.
Yeah, because first of all,and that's where the mental health comes in,
because we all deal with social mediais saying that's a fact. And
I'm not saying that as an excuseor anything, but I believe the social
media triggered whatever. And that's whatwe ended up with the conclusion, is

(52:29):
the apology because just in hindsight,I will say that I don't believe Ja
Cole even believe what he said aboutKendrick Lamara on that record, nah,
but he had to come up withsomething like but he had to come up
with something like that's like how youdiss Jesus. You be on the track
talking about you turned water in thewine, but the but the wine was

(52:51):
whack. It wasn't like, howdo you diss Jesus? There are certain
and I'm not saying that Kendrick Lamaris on the level of Jesus. Don't
get me twisted there. What I'msaying is there are certain people that if
you look at them a certain way. I couldn't get on the disc track
and dis yu what I'm gonna say, because you know you a good mom,

(53:14):
but you be tired on Saturday,Like can you diss somebody that you
have such a high level of respectfor, right, but you still separate
that? In hip hop? Yeah, the old hip hop though, I'm
telling you it's something, it's withoutsocial media. I think social media play
a big part. I feel likeif social media was back with jay Z

(53:35):
and nasa Ether, jay Z wouldbe crushed. I'm telling you here's another
thing. Here's you would feel.Literally, we probably wuldn't even get the
ja ZBC now because the way peoplewas talking in the street. Imagine the
greasy stuff they would have been sayingonline. And you know why jay Z
is so private, and we wonderwhy jay Z's so private and he's not
on social probably to protect his mentalhealth. Yep, Beyonce too. Beyonce

(53:58):
had dropped some pictures on y'all,but she ain't gonna talk to y'all.
Yeah, she's not gonna. Well, I don't know what she'd be lurking.
You know, sometime they be lurking, But most people I think lurk
even though they're not on they're watching. I don't they're what they're all watching.
Because you care as a celebrity,you got I think that comes with
it. You care what your fansthink. And I feel like, okay,

(54:21):
so you made another point. Ifeel like J Cole got a root
awakening through social media. Every timeJ Cole dropped a song or a feature,
it was Yo, that boy coldthough, Oh my god, that
boy cold. That boy he got, he got? And what did g

(54:42):
I say? If you live bythe applouse, you'll die by the booze.
You got a lot of nerve.It's so funny that he made that
of all people, of all people, of all people, but it applies
right here. Yeah, that's true. The J Cole and he couldn't hand
Yeah, that's true because he hasbeen on the top and you're used to

(55:05):
being there. You're not used toyou're used to people yes and and cheering,
but you're not used to And youhad a good point, but I
think the apology is what and Andyou know, it's so funny you said
that, because it's like, thisis why I feel like hip hop's falling
the part a little bit, becausethe beat, the battle, the disc
song and like you go to whenyou go back to the golden era,

(55:27):
that's what made or break not evenmake or break you, but that's what
like elevated that, like people wouldgo back and stream older. It worked
out for birth both people. Iknow, I'm all over the place,
but that to me is what islike the heartbeat of real hip hop beat.
And it's like, I mean,you go back to Koo D l
L. Like I'm just thinking aboutthe early days like when Como D came,

(55:52):
Yes, but like I don't knowwhy, like how you like me
now still to this day sticks outmore to me. Yeah, I can't
even remember what l L. I'mtrying to remember, but it's so l
and cannabis, yeah, yes,oh my gosh. Some of the and
see that's that And that's so funnybecause of like trash his career shut out

(56:15):
the cannabis one of the best Okay, we've ever seen. I think cannabis
was ahead of his time. Hewas so miracle he was. It went
over our heads a lot of it. Like you know, it reminds me
of cannabis a little bit. LoopA. It's kind of reminds me.
I can see that time. Ican see like, yeah, didn't he
didn't. Lupe getting in the mixedthroughout all of this. Somehow I feel

(56:35):
like, look, I think justdropped something new, But I feel like
loop Baby mad though Loop b Abe big mad, Loupe stay mad,
we do. And he got swordsnow, so leave him alone now not
the swords he got Smaron. Helickd with swords. Now leave him alone.
He just leave him alone, don'tmess with leave Loope alone. He

(56:57):
put that skateboard down. He ain'tkick pushing them, He's sort of leave
him alone. Leave that work andliquify your organs. Okay, not you
ain't ish for that. Get ClaudiaJordan's on the line. You need to
understand. Call Claudia Jordan's how theyget liquified. Yeah, you are awful.

(57:27):
Oh gosh, but no, okay, so just let me wrap this
up because you know my points withJ Cole. Oh yeah, nah,
I feel you know, I feeltwo things, well, a couple of
things. Let me tell you why. I feel like Ja Cole apologized.
I feel like J Cole apologized becausenumber one, he lied on that record.
He do not believe Kendrick Lamar istrash. He don't yah, he

(57:51):
don't know he that's if I everput out of this song telling y'all Carla
trash, just laugh at me,because y'all know, I don't believe that.
It's save here you already you're it'sbullshit. He don't believe that.
I think he was being lazy too. It could have been him being lazy
but here. But here's why,here's why I'm not buying the apology,
the mental health and all blah blahblah blah blah blah by J. Cole

(58:15):
is an emotionally intelligent and an intellectuallyintelligent black man. You didn't have to
You're not gonna tell me that youfell pressure to everybody telling you. You
had to respond to Kendrick Lamar yeah, you're not gonna. I'm not as
a grown ass man. You yougot you have children, you are a

(58:37):
father, you have children. Nowin the essence, now wait because now
I'm I'm double talking now both sidesof my neck, because in the essence
of hip hop, you are expectedto respond to this if you're gonna,
if you're gonna stick to the essenceof hip hop. It's almost like you
can't jump into a fight, swingon the person missing, be like you
know what, I'm my bad,I'm sorry now you Yeah, that's true.

(59:00):
True. So as you can see, I have so many mixed emotions
about this, but I will saythat you though, But that's because that's
why that's I'm telling you. That'swhy it was the Golden erab because he
had the option of not saying nothing. You had the option of not saying

(59:20):
anything and just letting people wonder whatthat disc would have sounded like if you
responded, and that you could havedropped. That mixtape might delete later and
that last track not be on there, and people would have been like,
yo, Cole, so nice withit. If he had responded to Kendrick,
I don't know, you know,I don't know if he had responded,

(59:45):
I don't know, but what youdid was you jumped out there.
And I think it was a situationof he jumped off a building and realized
he didn't know how to fly onhis way down. Ah. I feel
that's what Jacob jumped off that buildingand realized he didn't know how to shoot
a jump. You jumped, Sobasically what you did on your way down

(01:00:09):
was you called God and asked himto pull that big bouncy net out to
catch you at the bottom, andyou pulled out the mental health net.
He had that wingsuit on your as. I believe I could fly, I
believe I could touch this, Butyou are so you're so silly, you

(01:00:31):
right though, You're absolutely right.That was it was almost like remember when
you would go on Apollo and youmake sure you perform a gospel song.
Yeah, so the people don't boyeahyep. So the people don't boo you,
yeah, yep. And it's justit told me a lot about j
Cole though you know J Cole Okay, mental health bag mentally, you know

(01:00:52):
all that. Okay. I again, I'm not going against nobody trying to
protect their mental health. Okay.I just feel like he jumped off the
building and realized he couldn't fly,And then to add, okay, even
the apology, even if he jumpedout there and was like, you know
what, y'all, I ain't reallyfor this beef shit. You know what,

(01:01:16):
I apologize for jumping. He couldhave said, I apologize for trying
to do something that ain't really me. Yeah, but then you're gonna say,
don't y'all think Kendrick Lamar the bestrappert? Oh? So you basically
now you're bowing down, you layingon your sword at this point. And
then you say a big bro likeif you feel if you if you took

(01:01:38):
it personal. You know hopefully youdon't, but if you took it personal,
I'm sticking my chin out. Ijust take it on the chimp.
Now you're told if you're scared.Now, you told me you scared of
Kendrick Lamar. You told me youscared of that man. So I and
guess what, it's okay to beafraid. It's certain people that I'm afraid

(01:01:58):
of in this world because I don'tknow if they raped too tight, right,
and so it's okay to be afraid. But what you cannot do going
forward, mister Jermaine Cole from NorthCarolina. You cannot get on no more
tracks talking about how you the bestand nobody can see you and nobody can
say nothing to you at this pointin time going forward, you are a

(01:02:21):
talented rapper who is good with words. Wow, you're stripped them from us.
You strip chipped them down to knockedhim off the mount. I snatched
this Big three chain off of hisneck and I'm I'm just gonna fold it
up and put it in the topdrawer. You know, we put everything
in the top drawer. It istied away because it's not too late.
It ain't too so you don't thinkif he comes back with like nope,

(01:02:43):
nope, what even if he gota sto right now and did a diss
Like even if I'm not talking aboutthis, I'm just talking about a track,
like a hard ass just track likeI would be like, I would
be like it's sonically it sounds good. But he can never he's still up
there for Bill. He can't bein the Big three. He can't be
in the Big three. No howyou go to create a group and then

(01:03:06):
you ain't even built the b whoyou gonna replace him? With. If
you take him out, who's who'sit? Don't need to be no big
three, just just no more bignothings. Everybody, every man for they
self. No more big nothings.You coined, You created a group that
you weren't even built the bing.That's nuts, man, that's nuts.
You can't strip everything. I don'tthink that that I know everything. But

(01:03:31):
he's still top five, easy besty, I'm not stripping everything. He's still
talented, he still makes good music. But I better not hear him talking
about how nobody can step to himand nobody can miss and nobody cannat because
we watched you lay down on yoursword. And then here's the other thing.
Here's why I'm calling BS on themental health. Because I said I

(01:03:52):
applaud him for protecting his mental health. But here's why I call BS on
his mental health. Why he didn'tlose sleep when he was dissing no name,
Why he ain't lose sleep when hedid NBA, young boy got a
mental health park. Don't come inuntil you get booed. Oh okay,
that's the everybody, that's that's thething. That's why I'm like that.
Social media is a depending on howyou set up. Here's the other thing

(01:04:15):
that kind of I found interesting.The other thing I found interesting was I'm
gonna just leave j I'm gonna leavealone, and I'm just yeah, you
got you, No, I feelyou tight right now. I get like
I told you, it's the heartbeat. But I think that between social media

(01:04:35):
and a lack of like him justto like you said, he jumped off
the building. He jumped out there, and then when he got once,
he got booed and nobody was likecheer anymore and saying this ship is the
hottest you. You just should havenever apologized for me. It's the apology.
You should about it and let itYeah, yeah, yeah he's okay.

(01:04:57):
No, I'm not gonna let itgo. Here's what I owe.
Here's what I heard. I heardthat after Kendrick dropped his discs on like
that, that him and j Colewas on FaceTime for four hours. You
don't sit up on FaceTime for fourhours with an N word that you don't
like, right, That's true.So they basically had a conversation, and

(01:05:19):
the conversation was this is at thispoint, we just we just gonna go
bar for bar. This this isnothing more than just lyrical miracle. We
just do We gonna mirror lyrical miracle. We don't have to worry about no
cruise shooting each other in the streets. We don't have to worry about no
East coast, West coast. It'sjust gonna be lyrical miracle. So if

(01:05:41):
me and you got on the phoneand I threw some shot, I threw
shot. I really really twirled onthe light skin dude from the north.
Okay, I threw a bar atyou only because you was standing next to
the dude right, So that's almostlike I'm swinging on him. I'm swinging
on drake. But I accidentally grazedyour chie right right. Okay. So
I get on the phone with you. We talked for four hours, and

(01:06:03):
it's like, yo, I'm shootingat this dude right here, and I'm
sorry. You got grace. Butnow that we got everybody's attention, let's
let's go. Let's go. Soyou can drop yours and I could drop
mine. And I feel like whenJ Coleson and if you feel some type

(01:06:25):
of way, you can go ahead, and I'm gonna take it on the
chin. He is getting in front, he is getting in front of whatever
Kendrick Lamar is about to drop onhis locks. Hell yeah, it's just
the I just something in my spirit, just don't sit But held the same
guy. I Ja Cole did somethinglike this before, and for some reason

(01:06:45):
it's burning me up and I can'tthink of it, not to this extreme,
not like what a heavy hitter,but with another rapper. I feel
like he had this whole sit downthing where it was like, let's come
together, let me pop. Ohwas the kid's name, The kid found
cloud rapper little Palm. You don'tremember that when little like that f J
Cole song or whatever, Okay,and I made that like literally J Cole

(01:07:10):
sat down with him. M Mall right, well Jon, I'm just
saying it's not I'm like J andJ Cole is for Jesus. J Cole
is hip hop Jesus. He wantedto do, he want to do right,
he want to do miracles, andhe want to fix everything. But
what he can't do is get onthe track no more and tell me nobody
can see him lyrically. You can'tdo that. I'm done. Ain't no

(01:07:33):
Big three, It's just big Kendrid. Just it's just Kendrick. Well you
know, what that I there's alot of rumblings about Drake is about the
dropping something. Yeah, So letme ask you, do you think the
light skinned boy from the North.I think Hendrick. I'm personally I feel
like, if I had to pickwho's better, I'm gonna go with Drake.

(01:07:55):
Drakeer has a huge impact on hiphop than Kendrick does. He does
to me. To me and I'mmore of a Drake fan and the Kendrick.
I like Kendrick, but I likeDrake. I like Drake better.
M M. So, if Ihad tickets to a Kendrick Lamurra concert and
a Drake concert on the same night, and I had to choose where I

(01:08:17):
was going, I would get Iwould go see Kendrick. Okay, but
Drake has I feel like Drake hasa bigger catalog of hits. Drake has
broken records and things. But then, but you know what, it's you
have a bigger impact too. Youdon't think he has a bigger impact on
hip hop. It's hard for meto call that in the sense of yes

(01:08:42):
and no. I feel conflicted onthat one because it's like, what what
what elements are we speaking to?As far as the impact because it's like,
oh my stomach style style lot ofso many people like we listen to
music now, don't like Drake.You don't hear a lot of people.

(01:09:02):
I'm just looking at Kendrick, likeKendrick is a Politzer Prize, Like he
has a Politzer Prize. Yeah,definitely like apples oranges. But I have
to compare to that's they're kind oftotally different. One was the storyteller,
the punchline king. Yeah, you'realways going to have like that something yeah
thing, so yeah, I meanin the grand schame if I know,

(01:09:25):
oh, I feel like the people'schoice would be Drake because you know what
I feel like, I feel likeDrake. Okay, I'll give you this.
I feel like Drake appeals to morepeople like yeah, more more demographics,
right, you know, you'll havesomebody's mama talking about key Ky do
you love Yeah, you know,but then like his is very yeah.

(01:09:47):
But then when you have hip hoppurists that be like like most death that
you know, yeah yeah, yeah, you know the purists. The purists
can pick apart Drake. Yeah,if you go Kendrick, and that's and
that's that you're you're right about thatand don't get me wrong, Kendrick is
like if I flip flop them easily, Like it's if somebody says Kendrick is

(01:10:08):
one and Drakes two. I'm notbitching. You get what I'm saying.
But as long as you have thosetwo in a one and two conversation,
if I had to listen to oneperson's catalog for the rest of my life,
it's probably I picked Drake because Kendrickgot Kendrick got those hits. But
everything Kendrick put out don't be bopping, and one thing about Drake Drake gonna
keep you bopping. And I don'tknow about that album. I hadn't,

(01:10:32):
I haven't, I haven't even turnedthat on. I'm not doing that album.
But first of all, first oflet me rewind first of all,
and I'll be honest with you.I'm sorry. I excuse me, mister
Aubrey Graham. I'll owe you anapology because you literally mentioned ice cream conversations

(01:10:53):
and a song that I got Nerveplaying in your fad. Listen, I
got you Drake playing in your face. Oh my gosh, mister Graham,
now he missed Graham. Mister Graham, I apologize. How you flip it
up. Sir, Sir, sir, sir, mister Graham, Sir Graham,

(01:11:13):
Drake is probably gonna go down realtalk though, like a lot of
people don't want to talk about it, especially the hip hop purists like you
would say, Drake may go downwhen it's all said and done as the
biggest m because of all time,of all time, and people are gonna
get mad. But I just think, like between he is so like his

(01:11:36):
catalog, imagine, he's got somany years left. Drake got something for
everybody. He does, like hehas something for black folks, white girls
in college. He got something foreverybody. Yep, he does. And
he has a lot of music,a ton of music, a ton of
music. You right, But I'mnot messing with that. Y'all can have

(01:11:56):
that one not doing it. Y'allcan keep the no, no, keep
the oh gosh Drake and Ken Drake. Yeah, but that's not a big
thing. Oh I'm gonna need youto please please drop something because my best
we gotta bring her back. Wegotta we gotta bring her back. I
feel you, he me too.It made me drop, like I know,

(01:12:18):
definitely not top three, no,but no, and not even that
you can't. He can't say nothingabout it. I feel you you like
you can't say like. It's almostlike the person that doesn't vote, that
won't come out and bitch about policiesand laws. Boom, not even that.
Let's talk about Drake for a second, and then I'm not and then

(01:12:40):
we can go. Because my head, I'm getting a headache. I don't
wound myself up so bad and gota headache. Listen, Drake, you
mentioned Drake. Drake appeals to awide audience of people. Drake has an
incredible catalog of music. Drake isa record break king rapper. Drake.

(01:13:02):
I mean I think he broke MichaelJackson's record or tied it or something this
something like that. He did something, he messed, he done, messed
with the Beatles, Michael Jackson andall of them. Okay, these are
huge, huge, huge records,milestone records that have been sitting for a
quite some time. Okay, buteven Drake is battle tested. Even great

(01:13:26):
is battle testing. He may havetook that l dish, but the way
he chewed Philly up and that damnback, I'll give him that. Okay,
I get battle tested, and thething is straight Drake is not only
is he strategic, he's clever,and he's petty, very petty. I

(01:13:53):
think the petty Michael, the pettylevel made Buck higher than the than the
but all the rest, all therest, that stady ass a light skin,
biracial man. So not only whaty'all fail to realize is Drake got

(01:14:15):
some kin in him too. Okay, because y'all y'all be looking at a
black man, but it's some kinin him too. And for those who
are lost, Ken is the counterpartto Karen, you just made a good
come out. First of all,let's talk about the shots that Drake used
to fire at that Kanye to sendKanye off of his mental health over the

(01:14:44):
edge? Key, key, doyou love me? That's what they call
Kim Kardashian my family. The manis petty. I'm laughing because he do.
I just thought about it, andit could come out of note like
when he comes he comes to okay, like he ain't gonna come lazy,
mediocre. No, So Drake isbattle tested. So I mean, I'm

(01:15:06):
fine with a big two. Bigthree had a bigger, a better ring
to it, because ice Cube gaveus the Big three league. But Jacob
and it's so funny because y'all.I called Carla and I said, I
was upset when j Cole first releasedit. I had to get it out
before this podcast, yes, becauseI wanted to at least get most of
the venom out of my system beforewe got on the airwaves. Right.

(01:15:30):
And I said to Carla Shaquana Brown. And Shaquana is not really her middle
but I said to Carla Shaquana Brown. I said, Carla, I was
like. He tried to respond andshe said he also tried to play basket
facts. I and I loved JakeCole, but remember that he went to

(01:15:50):
Africa to try to play basket.Yeah, listen, you ain't one thing
we could say about Ja Cole.He know his limitation, yes, because
he bowled out of that league overthere too. Shout out to j Cole.
But you gotta you know, it'sso crazy that we're even talking that
we can only pick three mcs thatare like hip hop is a shambles.

(01:16:15):
And I know Big Sean is likeI know Big Sean with his cute self,
but his dad body is giving rightnow. But I love it.
I love it though, you know, I love to see that though.
I love the fact that I loveseeing him and Daddy moved yeah, and

(01:16:35):
Janey like it guy right, ButBig Sean reminds me. You know,
when they when they getting ready toplay double Dutch and they be turning the
roope and the girl be standing onthe side doing her arms in and out
because she's about to jump in thedouble Dutch rope. I feel like that's
what Big Sean been doing for thepast couple of years, and they never
let him get in the rope.As soon as he get in, somebody

(01:16:57):
claps claps every time j Coulture.I mean, every time Big Show try
to jump in the rope, somebodystart turning flicking yes, yes every time.
Every time y'all do not get BigSean a fair chance to get in
the rope and jump. Oh god, And for y'all that don't know,

(01:17:18):
that's too young. I don't rememberwhat double dutch is. Yes, flick
yo. So that was that wasup top. I wonder if that's an
up top thing or like, Idon't know. If you from down South
with the f please let us knowif you've ever heard afflicted, Yes,
please please, because for those thatdon't know, like because you know,

(01:17:39):
we got to start from the beginning. You're originally from up top. I'm
still off top, but down south. So that's a good question because I
didn't know y'all called buggy karts buggiesand so like with here. And heard
dad girl say, I'm fitting atope my mama to the grocery store,
but she hate when I be pushingthe buggy. I said, I said,
what did you just say? It'se guse me, I'm fitting a

(01:18:01):
tote my mama took grocery store andI hate pushing the buggies. I love
it. I love buggy. Iactually use buggy now instead of cart.
No, it's a cart buggies,punch buggies. That's it, right,
Buggy at the supermarket. Got todo a north and south like we do.

(01:18:24):
It's so much, it's so muchwe need to do on this podcast.
But I promise you we're gonna getto it. I think, you
know what, I think. I'ma title today's episode flicted because there's so
many people out here acting inflicted rightnow. It is. Oh, it
definitely has to be flicted. Awhole lot of flicted food. Mm hmm.

(01:18:45):
Okay, I like that. Ilike that. I want to take
one more break and then when wecome back, I have a few things
that I want to touch on,and then we're gonna wrap up the pod.
Okay, yes, the and andthen if it's anything that you want
to get into, and then wecan go ahead and get into that.
But yeah, I just I didnot mean to be rant about j Cole.
You are this is good. That'sgood content. Man, he pissed

(01:19:09):
me off. It's good. Ilove it. Where do you see cut?
Y'all want to take a break,I'll be right back. My nerves
all right, I see see.Friends, We are back. So just
a few things that I wanted tomake sure we touched on Carlave before we

(01:19:30):
got out of here. So youknow the title of today's podcast is Flicted,
and I want to talk about afew flicted people first and Starry Jerrod
card Michael, who I am sohurt to tell y'all. He is double
flicked god. Gerard has this realityTV show on Max and it's called the

(01:19:51):
Jerrod card Michael Show, and basicallyhis goal is the Truman Show himself.
And some of you may be familiarwith that phrasing that that movie and understand
what it is, but he hascameras and I feel like Gerard Carmichael told
us he was gay and we waslike okay. Then he did a stand

(01:20:14):
up special. Well, first hedid the stand up special, told us
he was gay Rathaniel and we waslike okay. Then he got an Emmy
for the stand up comedy special becauseit was so it was a chef's kiss.
I'm not going to front overa Thaniellike that stand up comedy special.
It was heartbreaking, was it wasdeep, it was transparent, it was

(01:20:36):
it was just beautiful for a standup comedy special. So he deserved that
Emmy. Then he came out withanother show where he was telling his parents
and his family he was gay,and we was like, okay, we
don't drive you gay. Okay,we get right, we don't care.
Like it's not like you was alittle boozy and you announced you ry Okay,

(01:20:58):
you were Rod Carmichael and announced youare against Okay, no cars stopped
in the street. There wasn't asolar eclipse that like, nothing major took.
Okay, you're gay, that isyour personal choice, that is your
lifestyle, and as fans we stilllove and accept you. It changes nothing
about you except who you choose toget into bed with that night. Okay,

(01:21:20):
right that I feel like he waslike, I don't feel enough applause.
So I am going to make theJerrod Carmchael Show on Max and I
have to really, really, reallyreally drive home the fact that I am

(01:21:40):
gay, because y'all don't get it, and we're like, Jirrod, yes
we do. We got it inRthaniel. We got it in a special
where you basically traumatized your mama forratings and told jo Mama you was gay.
We got it there. And nowgirl, I have on Facebook,

(01:22:00):
I think last week I said Ilove Jerid Carmichael. As a matter of
fact, JERRII Carmichael is probably oneof the kindest and sweetest celebrities I have
ever met, and I'm gonna stickbeside him. The other day I wrote
on the same Facebook page, letme off the next stop of the dry

(01:22:25):
Carmichael train. Let me out,Hey, go let me out. Stop
the car and let me out.Let me out, Carlo, I know
you haven't had the opportunity to watchthis show. So for you and all
the other ICC friends who have notwatched the car Michael show. Gerard is
on this show licking and sucking whitemen's toes. He gets on hookup apps

(01:22:49):
every free moment he gets. Heliterally has a a concert line of random
men coming in and out of hishouse that he has sex with. He
has a tough, full size NiviaJurgen's jar of booty butter. Oh wow,

(01:23:11):
he is clapping cheeks on the regularand it's like it's almost eerie spot
not. It's every every negative stereotypethat the gay community faces. Gerard Carmichael
is enforcing it and to top tierlevels on this show. And I'm like,

(01:23:33):
I didn't even care about the factthat he's gay. I expected him
to have gay relationships on the showwhere be kissing the man or all that.
I'm not you didn't think it wasto be the focus point. Yeah,
I wanted to like just really seelike what you're doing, Gerard,
Like let me see what you're doingin your sexuality. Right, It's more
this man is telling us he gota sex edition he kicked off. We

(01:23:56):
already talked about the whole situation withTyler creator and the second episode he reveals
that he likes to race play withhis white boyfriend's too much, and that
he make always jokes about how he'slike a slave having sex with the master's
son. So not funny, sonot. That's like the worst joke I've

(01:24:18):
ever heard in my life man.And he says that the boyfriend hates the
joke, but he was like,Lo, I like the joke. It's
for me. It's my bye Girrod, bye bye bye bye. First of
all, you got a whole sexaddiction. You in therapy, you have
a boyfriend, but the minute theboyfriend leaves, you get on an app

(01:24:39):
and find people. He is literallycalling people over to have sex with them
who don't even have their face ontheir profile picture. Wow, he's just
looking at their stomach or they thighsor they butts and just calling them like
girod baby, unless you're gonna giveme another stand up comedy special or a
fresh out cool funny sitcom. Miss. Yeah, that's what I enjoyed to

(01:25:00):
say, Yeah for real and beingreal afflicted right now, Yeah, very
afflicted. Wow, he is goingtoo much, and it has nothing to
do with his sexuality. It's justthe point that it's almost like it's performanceive,
Like it's almost like look at me, look at me. Look at
me, Look at me, lookat It's ridiculous. That's what it sounds
like to me. I haven't evenseen it, but everything that you're telling

(01:25:20):
me, it's almost like, justlook, he's just attention seeking to this.
It's not serving a purpose. It'snot like someone said, what Dry
Carmichael is doing with this show isputting the black cre queer always my mouth,
the black queer community. It's puttinga lot of them in danger.

(01:25:42):
Wow. And I was like,damn, that makes sense. Yeah,
speaking of more afflicted people, AyokiLee Simmons was dating a sixty five year
old man, kyok poor Ioki.She said that man want her boyfriend.
She said, right now, Ayoki, listen Ayoki. First of all,
Ayoki got her mama and her daddytreats Okay, yeah, because I got

(01:26:04):
her first of all. It's thefact that I usually don't pay attention to
Aoki and Camora and and I reallyain't stunning nothing. Russell Simmons got going
on while he's while he's over inBally laying low Okay, you better late
trying to convince did he has tocome over there? Okay, you might

(01:26:24):
will come over here, rent Low. Everything like I'm little hosesse. That's
your backing call. Okay, theygot relaxed laws over here, relax laws
of the relax. Look, yeah, they got relaxed laws over here.
Like just but Aoki Lee Simmons wasphotographed on a romantic a romantical getaway in

(01:26:50):
the words of Flavor Flav and SaintBart's, with a sixty five year old
restaurant tour named Victorio Victorio ass Off. I'm gonna say it's ass Off or
whatever. I don't know how youpronounce his last name. Victorio has an
affinity for black women, especially underthe age of twenty five. That's his

(01:27:12):
bag. That's his bag now.To be fair, he was married for
twenty years to a model who wasalso of a younger age, but she
decided to have an affair with herI think with her twin sister's husband.
It was something, it was somethingwild. So yeah, so their marriage
ended around twenty twenty twenty two somethingaround there. But anyway, so he's

(01:27:32):
over there with Ioki and I'm justlike somebody grabbed a d wormer because anytime,
like, she is twenty one yearsold, a Harvard graduate, not
you, you over there letting asixty five year old man put sixty five
year old saliva in your mouth andanywhere else he saw fit. And I'm
just get the d wormer. Getthe d wormer for the baby. Oh

(01:27:54):
you gotta be so graphic that.Oh I'm sorry, hold on, Zoby.
Breaking news. OJ Simpson passed away. What says ODIs Simpson dies.
Family says battle with cancer. Ijust just said. It just came across
Wow. Oh, rest in peace, o Jo. You know Nicole gonna

(01:28:15):
be waiting it for him, right, yep? You? Oh it's too
soid. Yeah, ain't even that'snot funny. Yeah, wait do that
man? Ain't even it't even good? And any chat, and thank you
for tuning into today's show. Asalways, we thank you for being a
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(01:28:39):
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