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June 16, 2025 27 mins

It’s been a manic week in global politics. Trump and Musk have officially broken up, Americans have taken to the streets to protest ICE deportations… oh and we’re seemingly on the brink of a nuclear war in the Middle East! 

To take stock of these rapidly deteriorating news stories, Matt Bevan talks to Dr Emma Shortis, Director of the Australia Institute’s International Security Affairs Program, author and host of the podcast After America.

If you have a burning question for Emma or Matt send it to  ifyourelistening@abc.net.au and we’ll answer it on next week’s show!

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